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Thanks for tuning in to this episode of 00:01:23.620 --> 00:01:26.569 ham talk live tonight. We're joined by Becky 00:01:26.569 --> 00:01:30.090 Schoenfeld W1BXY and we'll take your calls in 00:01:30.090 --> 00:01:34.450 just a few minutes. Last week Marsha Ford KW1U 00:01:34.450 --> 00:01:37.629 was here to talk about NTS traffic handling. 00:01:38.189 --> 00:01:40.310 So if you missed that show you can listen anytime 00:01:40.310 --> 00:01:43.590 just go to HamTalkLive .com or your favorite 00:01:43.590 --> 00:01:48.709 podcast app or YouTube or you can catch the rebroadcast 00:01:48.709 --> 00:01:54.629 of the show on Saturday evenings on WTWW 5085 00:01:54.629 --> 00:01:59.069 AM and that's at about 6 30 p .m eastern time 00:01:59.069 --> 00:02:01.810 typically. So get your questions ready to go 00:02:01.810 --> 00:02:04.950 for Becky. 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She is the managing editor of QST magazine 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:51.399 She began working at ARRL in 2011 and became 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:54.899 licensed in 2012 and quickly upgraded as well 00:05:55.389 --> 00:06:00.389 She has worked all states in DXCC and Becky is 00:06:00.389 --> 00:06:04.569 known for her guest appearances in the past with 00:06:04.569 --> 00:06:07.550 the famous Spurious Emissions band at Hamvention, 00:06:07.670 --> 00:06:12.430 including her stellar performance of Don't Cry 00:06:12.430 --> 00:06:15.569 for Hera Arena, a brilliant ham radio parody 00:06:15.569 --> 00:06:18.870 of the song, Don't Cry for Me, Argentina. So 00:06:18.870 --> 00:06:24.540 how is that for an intro, Becky? Well, yeah, 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:27.480 I never thought I'd be known for my singing voice, 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:32.860 that's for sure. You just never know. Yeah, you 00:06:32.860 --> 00:06:35.459 never know. Who's watching those things on YouTube 00:06:35.459 --> 00:06:41.860 and, you know, they get around. Well, Becky's 00:06:41.860 --> 00:06:45.579 going to talk about all the happenings here with 00:06:45.579 --> 00:06:49.860 QST and the new magazine coming out. Soon but 00:06:49.860 --> 00:06:57.300 this was another listener Suggestion was they 00:06:57.300 --> 00:07:01.300 want to know what goes into making an edition 00:07:01.300 --> 00:07:06.279 of QST. So Becky what goes into making an edition 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:14.019 of QST? So much Well, you know as as many of 00:07:14.019 --> 00:07:19.230 us know QST is published monthly And it's been 00:07:19.230 --> 00:07:22.209 published since 1915. There was a break for a 00:07:22.209 --> 00:07:25.810 couple of years for World War I, and it resumed 00:07:25.810 --> 00:07:29.389 in 1919. It's been published continuously since 00:07:29.389 --> 00:07:34.550 1919. So we've been around a long time. It is 00:07:34.550 --> 00:07:38.029 the membership journal of ARRL. A lot of folks 00:07:38.029 --> 00:07:43.949 think of it as a technical journal, but it is 00:07:43.949 --> 00:07:47.639 actually the membership journal of ARRL. So we're 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:50.240 sort of the journal of record for the organization 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:54.620 and for the hobby and the service. And we do 00:07:54.620 --> 00:07:58.980 present a lot of technical material. As you know, 00:07:59.300 --> 00:08:02.000 Ham Radio has a lot of sub interests and sub 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:05.839 hobbies in it. And, you know, because the magazine 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:10.610 needs to represent ARL members. We try to touch 00:08:10.610 --> 00:08:14.810 on as many of those sub interests as we can in 00:08:14.810 --> 00:08:17.370 each issue and and there are so many of them 00:08:17.370 --> 00:08:19.769 with so many more emerging all the time that 00:08:19.769 --> 00:08:24.350 it's it's very very challenging So to put together 00:08:24.350 --> 00:08:28.990 an issue An individual issue of course starts 00:08:28.990 --> 00:08:34.070 with manuscripts And we're getting manuscripts 00:08:34.070 --> 00:08:39.429 all the time we get stuff from folks, hams who 00:08:39.429 --> 00:08:42.870 just send them in. We also get manuscripts via 00:08:42.870 --> 00:08:47.549 solicitation. Steve Ford, WB8IMY, who's the editor 00:08:47.549 --> 00:08:51.470 of QST, he and I also, we often reach out to 00:08:51.470 --> 00:08:54.649 hams who have specific specialties and we'll 00:08:54.649 --> 00:08:57.950 ask them to write articles on specific topics 00:08:57.950 --> 00:09:04.070 for an issue. So then about every six to eight 00:09:04.070 --> 00:09:09.840 weeks, two editorial committees convene. We've 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:12.360 got one for technical articles and one for non 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:15.100 -technical articles. And anything that's not 00:09:15.100 --> 00:09:18.480 technical, we call general interest. So the editorial 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:21.100 committee for tech articles is made up of hams 00:09:21.100 --> 00:09:25.019 who are technical experts in various aspects 00:09:25.019 --> 00:09:30.779 of ham radio. And they have an online group where 00:09:30.779 --> 00:09:34.220 they meet and talk about the articles that get 00:09:34.220 --> 00:09:37.190 submitted. And the general interest committee 00:09:37.190 --> 00:09:41.370 is made up of QST staff members and also some 00:09:41.370 --> 00:09:44.450 staff members from other parts of the organization. 00:09:45.850 --> 00:09:48.450 And these committees meet and they evaluate the 00:09:48.450 --> 00:09:51.649 manuscripts that get submitted and they make 00:09:51.649 --> 00:09:54.970 their selections and pass them along for production. 00:09:55.809 --> 00:09:58.230 So when we're getting ready to put an issue together, 00:09:58.470 --> 00:10:01.990 Steve Ford and I will consult the database of 00:10:01.990 --> 00:10:05.039 manuscripts that have been accepted. and we choose 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:07.039 a selection of them that makes sense together 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:13.480 for an issue. Now for each issue, we're running 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:18.080 about two months ahead of the publication date 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:20.720 that's on an issue. So right now we're in November 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:24.279 2019, which means you count ahead two months 00:10:24.279 --> 00:10:27.440 and that's January 2020. So that's the issue 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:30.250 we're working on right now. In fact, it goes 00:10:30.250 --> 00:10:34.049 to the printer on Tuesday. So we are nearing 00:10:34.049 --> 00:10:36.929 the end of the January 2020 production cycle. 00:10:38.570 --> 00:10:42.250 So you may not have time to be on HamTalk Live. 00:10:44.909 --> 00:10:48.590 Well, we've been doing this a long time. You 00:10:48.590 --> 00:10:53.029 know, I've been at ARL since 2011 and I've been 00:10:53.029 --> 00:10:59.919 working on QST since I think fall 2012. And I 00:10:59.919 --> 00:11:02.679 worked in magazines for many, many years before 00:11:02.679 --> 00:11:09.779 that. So, yeah, we have it down. We have a small 00:11:09.779 --> 00:11:14.539 staff. I think we have nine people is the QST 00:11:14.539 --> 00:11:20.399 staff. And I think five of those nine people 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:24.600 are editors. And of those nine people, gosh, 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:30.539 I think... about five of them have been with 00:11:30.539 --> 00:11:34.100 the organization for literally decades and decades. 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:39.480 So the team really knows what it's doing and 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:42.799 every issue is an exercise in creative problem 00:11:42.799 --> 00:11:48.019 solving. It's a nice balance between being familiar 00:11:48.019 --> 00:11:51.080 and being able to stick to our process and also 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:56.440 having to do some quick thinking when something 00:11:56.440 --> 00:11:59.399 comes up and we need to make a change. So I always 00:11:59.399 --> 00:12:01.919 think of it as creative problem solving. We don't 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:05.419 really have emergencies. So even though it's 00:12:05.419 --> 00:12:08.220 Thursday night and we've got deadline on Tuesday, 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:11.379 you know, everything's under control and nobody 00:12:11.379 --> 00:12:14.779 has to work overtime. And, you know, nobody runs 00:12:14.779 --> 00:12:18.039 around with their hair on fire and we get the 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:22.330 job done. Yeah. Yeah, you have creative problem 00:12:22.330 --> 00:12:24.490 -solving like these people who write, you know 00:12:24.490 --> 00:12:27.570 three page articles and you have a page and a 00:12:27.570 --> 00:12:31.830 half of space Yeah, that's what pictures are 00:12:31.830 --> 00:12:37.529 for That's what that's what editing is for and 00:12:37.529 --> 00:12:40.610 then we get creative we're really good at pretty 00:12:40.610 --> 00:12:44.830 much everything you see in the magazine is Is 00:12:44.830 --> 00:12:50.230 fairly heavily edited? And our editors are really 00:12:50.230 --> 00:12:53.590 terrific about doing that sort of thing. We can 00:12:53.590 --> 00:12:56.809 condense, we can expand, we do all kinds of stuff. 00:12:57.950 --> 00:13:00.470 And it's all in the name of making the information 00:13:00.470 --> 00:13:04.450 as clear as it possibly can be for the members, 00:13:04.509 --> 00:13:08.529 for the readers. And making our authors look 00:13:08.529 --> 00:13:12.429 good and making them sound good. So once you... 00:13:12.429 --> 00:13:17.090 What's that? I said, oh, yes. Yes. So once we've 00:13:17.090 --> 00:13:22.049 chosen an editorial lineup, the editors sort 00:13:22.049 --> 00:13:24.590 of corral all the materials for their assignments. 00:13:25.830 --> 00:13:28.289 For example, our senior editor, Jen Glyford, 00:13:28.429 --> 00:13:33.230 KC1 KNL, is currently in charge of all the radio 00:13:33.230 --> 00:13:39.129 sport material. So if she's got to work on the 00:13:39.129 --> 00:13:42.649 results article for sweepstakes CW, she's got 00:13:42.649 --> 00:13:45.990 to make sure that The author of that article 00:13:45.990 --> 00:13:49.409 has sent in all the pieces of it main body text 00:13:49.409 --> 00:13:52.690 the data for the results tables any photos any 00:13:52.690 --> 00:13:57.669 captions for the photos You know, maybe a biographical 00:13:57.669 --> 00:14:02.169 note, there's just all kinds of stuff Every article 00:14:02.169 --> 00:14:04.490 that appears in the magazine has a lot of little 00:14:04.490 --> 00:14:09.190 pieces parts that go with it and Often the more 00:14:09.190 --> 00:14:11.789 technical an article is the more work it requires 00:14:11.789 --> 00:14:16.279 to make sure that everything is If it's a build 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:20.899 article and there are diagrams, the author will 00:14:20.899 --> 00:14:25.179 supply sketches. Those go to our technical illustrator, 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:30.440 David Pingree, N1, NAS. And he creates all the 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:32.299 beautiful schematics and drawings you see in 00:14:32.299 --> 00:14:36.360 the magazine. So it's a lot of work. It's a lot 00:14:36.360 --> 00:14:39.200 of like little fiddly pieces that have to be 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:42.580 sort of gathered together and finessed into a 00:14:42.580 --> 00:14:48.580 whole. and checked a lot. You know, everything 00:14:48.580 --> 00:14:52.240 has to be as correct as we can make it. You know, 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:54.259 you've seen an issue of QST, you know what kind 00:14:54.259 --> 00:14:57.620 of materials in there. It's a lot of figures, 00:14:57.779 --> 00:15:00.720 sometimes it's equations, a lot of measurements, 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:04.379 just numbers, numeric stuff in general, a lot 00:15:04.379 --> 00:15:08.100 of acronyms. We love our acronyms in ham radio. 00:15:08.879 --> 00:15:11.460 and of course a ton of call signs and everything 00:15:11.460 --> 00:15:14.440 has to be checked to make sure it's all factually 00:15:14.440 --> 00:15:17.720 correct, got to read properly, read smoothly. 00:15:19.059 --> 00:15:21.720 So we spend a lot of time reading and rereading 00:15:21.720 --> 00:15:24.620 all that stuff and making sure it's correct and 00:15:24.620 --> 00:15:26.879 there's a point in the editing process where 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:29.860 a PDF of each article is sent to its author so 00:15:29.860 --> 00:15:32.620 the author can correct anything that might be 00:15:32.620 --> 00:15:37.200 wrong. So a lot of the time is spent on that, 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:39.419 sending stuff around and making sure that it's 00:15:39.419 --> 00:15:42.379 really clean and that we're hopefully not making 00:15:42.379 --> 00:15:45.039 any mistakes, even though we're imperfect human 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:48.519 beings and mistakes sometimes get through. And 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:51.679 then once everything's correct and we know it's 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:55.379 as clean as we can make it, our assistant production 00:15:55.379 --> 00:15:59.980 supervisor, Jody Morin, who is KA1JPA, uploads 00:15:59.980 --> 00:16:05.240 production PDFs to the printer. And the printer 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:10.620 gets those PDFs and away we go. And we go on 00:16:10.620 --> 00:16:16.799 press out in Pontiac, Illinois, and we run about 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:21.620 140 ,000 copies of each issue. And they're fulfilled 00:16:21.620 --> 00:16:26.139 from there in Illinois. And while that's going 00:16:26.139 --> 00:16:31.029 on, So we'll upload the January 2020 issue on 00:16:31.029 --> 00:16:33.970 Tuesday and then the staff will have about two 00:16:33.970 --> 00:16:37.730 days where the workloads a little lighter and 00:16:37.730 --> 00:16:40.809 then the whole process starts up again for the 00:16:40.809 --> 00:16:44.529 February 2020 issue. So we're constantly in this 00:16:44.529 --> 00:16:48.169 production process that takes about three to 00:16:48.169 --> 00:16:52.929 four weeks for any given issue. And then, you 00:16:52.929 --> 00:16:55.330 know, on top of all the articles, you've got 00:16:56.980 --> 00:17:01.899 advertising, you've got, you know, all the listings 00:17:01.899 --> 00:17:06.200 of all the people in all the divisions and, you 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:12.259 know, indexing and archiving and all that kind 00:17:12.259 --> 00:17:18.539 of stuff too. Yeah, there's, I think almost every 00:17:18.539 --> 00:17:21.500 department in the building contributes something 00:17:21.500 --> 00:17:25.319 to QST or either contributes something or checks 00:17:25.319 --> 00:17:31.490 something. overseas something, it's really an 00:17:31.490 --> 00:17:34.269 enormous effort that involves so many people 00:17:34.269 --> 00:17:37.690 around the entire building, not just the production 00:17:37.690 --> 00:17:42.029 and editorial staff, because it is the membership 00:17:42.029 --> 00:17:45.130 journal. So it represents so many different parts 00:17:45.130 --> 00:17:47.509 of the building and so many different aspects 00:17:47.509 --> 00:17:53.329 of what we do. So it takes a lot and those three 00:17:53.329 --> 00:17:57.410 or four weeks are very full. And they have a 00:17:57.410 --> 00:18:00.250 sort of rhythm to them that we recognize and 00:18:00.250 --> 00:18:03.150 so, you know, we'll upload on Tuesday and then 00:18:03.150 --> 00:18:07.509 we'll have our Two days of quasi downtime and 00:18:07.509 --> 00:18:11.329 then we'll do it all again Now let's talk a little 00:18:11.329 --> 00:18:15.410 bit about distribution Because you have different 00:18:15.410 --> 00:18:21.269 platforms now. It's not just print But you have 00:18:21.269 --> 00:18:23.450 that print version and you've got to get all 00:18:23.450 --> 00:18:26.869 those addressed and mailed and all that kind 00:18:26.869 --> 00:18:29.650 of thing. And then you've got the digital. So 00:18:29.650 --> 00:18:34.250 talk a little bit about the distribution. Yeah, 00:18:34.250 --> 00:18:38.750 as I mentioned, it's mailed by our printer out 00:18:38.750 --> 00:18:42.809 in Illinois. And QST is mailed in something called 00:18:42.809 --> 00:18:48.529 a co -mail pool, which helps us save a little 00:18:48.529 --> 00:18:51.190 bit on forwarding. Postage, of course, costs 00:18:51.190 --> 00:18:54.900 a tremendous amount. Printing and forwarding 00:18:54.900 --> 00:18:57.400 are some of the largest costs that a magazine 00:18:57.400 --> 00:19:02.140 has. So a lot of magazines are mailed in these 00:19:02.140 --> 00:19:04.740 co -mail pools where magazines are bundled together 00:19:04.740 --> 00:19:08.420 to save on postage. So when you go to your mailbox 00:19:08.420 --> 00:19:13.420 and you end up with, you end up pulling out a 00:19:13.420 --> 00:19:16.119 handful of catalogs because the holiday shopping 00:19:16.119 --> 00:19:19.380 season is starting, the chances are that a bunch 00:19:19.380 --> 00:19:22.269 of those publications rode in one of these cold 00:19:22.269 --> 00:19:29.970 mail pools. So, you know, we get to be fairly 00:19:29.970 --> 00:19:34.369 hands off in production editorial. We have a 00:19:34.369 --> 00:19:37.470 circulation department that handles matters related 00:19:37.470 --> 00:19:39.910 to the distribution. So if heaven forbid something 00:19:39.910 --> 00:19:44.009 goes wrong, sometimes production editorial hears 00:19:44.009 --> 00:19:47.329 about it. But when we hear about it, we transfer 00:19:47.329 --> 00:19:51.240 all it up to circulation and they're really great 00:19:51.240 --> 00:19:54.380 about tracking things down, about finding stuff 00:19:54.380 --> 00:19:58.500 that's lost, finding out if something was late, 00:19:58.779 --> 00:20:02.079 why it was late, if something arrived mangled 00:20:02.079 --> 00:20:05.319 in somebody's mailbox, you know, they can track 00:20:05.319 --> 00:20:09.079 that stuff down. But down where I am, we don't 00:20:09.079 --> 00:20:11.380 have a whole lot to do with that. Fortunately, 00:20:11.380 --> 00:20:15.000 we have people who have that all under control. 00:20:16.019 --> 00:20:22.759 As far as the digital goes, I am currently, blessedly, 00:20:23.140 --> 00:20:27.299 not all that involved in the digital. Next year, 00:20:27.299 --> 00:20:29.900 I'm going to be deeper into the digital end of 00:20:29.900 --> 00:20:34.059 things. Our digital service provider is a company 00:20:34.059 --> 00:20:38.779 called Page Suite, and they host the digital 00:20:38.779 --> 00:20:44.079 edition of QST, which is just a PDF replica of 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:48.539 the print magazine. And that comes out about 00:20:48.539 --> 00:20:51.119 a week and a half earlier than the print edition. 00:20:51.319 --> 00:20:54.359 So we like to sort of hype that on social media 00:20:54.359 --> 00:20:56.480 and say, you know, you can go look at your digital 00:20:56.480 --> 00:20:58.299 edition right now. You don't have to wait for 00:20:58.299 --> 00:21:02.859 the print. And that's handled by this company 00:21:02.859 --> 00:21:09.000 called PageSuite. Very good. Well, as if there 00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:15.299 wasn't enough chaos. Now you have a brand new 00:21:15.299 --> 00:21:20.420 magazine to put together and was coming out soon. 00:21:21.180 --> 00:21:24.819 So tell us a little bit about On The Air. Oh, 00:21:24.900 --> 00:21:29.599 On The Air. I have been just immersed in stuff 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:32.660 for On The Air this week and it has been incredibly 00:21:32.660 --> 00:21:39.440 exciting. Yeah, ARRL is about to launch its first 00:21:39.440 --> 00:21:44.819 magazine in close to 40 years. So it's kind of 00:21:44.819 --> 00:21:48.759 cool that I'm here tonight talking about ARRL's 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:52.960 oldest magazine, QST, and its newest magazine, 00:21:53.000 --> 00:21:57.420 On the Air, the sort of bookending, the publishing 00:21:57.420 --> 00:22:02.119 history of ARRL here. So On the Air actually 00:22:02.119 --> 00:22:07.180 had its beginnings back in 2017. when a group 00:22:07.180 --> 00:22:09.720 of managers at ARRL headquarters saw the need 00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:13.400 to take a closer look at a group of hams that 00:22:13.400 --> 00:22:19.680 we knew were underserved, namely newer hams, 00:22:20.180 --> 00:22:24.140 sort of beginner to intermediate, a lot of technicians, 00:22:24.220 --> 00:22:26.740 but not necessarily. They may be generals or 00:22:26.740 --> 00:22:31.740 extras, but regardless of license class, they 00:22:31.740 --> 00:22:36.240 never really progressed beyond getting a license 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:40.759 and, you know, maybe taking a couple of other 00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:45.279 beginning steps and then kind of falling away 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:48.599 from the hobby. And, and of course, you know, 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:51.519 we don't want people to fall away from the hobby 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:54.519 or leave the hobby. We want them to engage, we 00:22:54.519 --> 00:22:57.059 want them to stick around, we want them to build 00:22:57.059 --> 00:23:02.440 their skills. But what we hear a lot at headquarters 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:07.579 is newer hams will email us and call us and say, 00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:11.000 you know, look, you know, QST is just too hard 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:14.799 for me. My tech skills are not at this level. 00:23:14.900 --> 00:23:17.140 My operating skills are not at this level. I 00:23:17.140 --> 00:23:21.019 need more. I need the basics. And what I really 00:23:21.019 --> 00:23:26.900 need is a mentor. I need an Elmer. And, you know, 00:23:26.900 --> 00:23:29.380 this is something that We're not hearing just 00:23:29.380 --> 00:23:32.640 at ARRL. I know that it's, you know, stories 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:35.500 like this are coming out at hamfests and conventions, 00:23:35.500 --> 00:23:37.880 and it's out there in the community. It's out 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:40.519 there on the message boards and stuff. Newer 00:23:40.519 --> 00:23:44.380 hams just don't have mentors like they did back 00:23:44.380 --> 00:23:48.180 in the days when today's amateur extras were 00:23:48.180 --> 00:23:51.559 just getting started in ham radio. Hams who are 00:23:51.559 --> 00:23:54.480 in their 60s and 70s and older today, when they 00:23:54.480 --> 00:23:58.640 first got into radio, um, the culture and the 00:23:58.640 --> 00:24:01.119 community, not just in radio, but just in this 00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:04.180 country in general was so much more connected. 00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:08.839 And, and there were mentors or Elmer's because 00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:11.440 kids were playing outside. They were running 00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:13.980 around the neighborhood until it got dark. And, 00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:16.549 you know, there was. maybe a kindly neighbor 00:24:16.549 --> 00:24:18.650 down the street who would say, hey, you know, 00:24:18.690 --> 00:24:21.369 kids, come on, you know, into my garage. I got 00:24:21.369 --> 00:24:24.029 this, this workshop. I do neat stuff with radio 00:24:24.029 --> 00:24:27.009 and you want to see, I can, I can show you this. 00:24:27.230 --> 00:24:29.849 And a whole generation of hams were made that 00:24:29.849 --> 00:24:33.109 way. Um, or someone had a grandfather and uncle 00:24:33.109 --> 00:24:35.390 that was into it and they, they passed the hobby 00:24:35.390 --> 00:24:41.829 on. And, um, our culture has changed so much. 00:24:42.009 --> 00:24:45.079 Community has changed so much that That doesn't 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:49.700 happen anymore. Kids are indoors. You know, you 00:24:49.700 --> 00:24:52.299 can't really invite a child that you don't know 00:24:52.299 --> 00:24:57.500 into your home that's frowned on. So both opportunities 00:24:57.500 --> 00:25:01.279 for that casual mentoring are gone. And of course, 00:25:01.380 --> 00:25:05.640 we also know that now more than ever people have 00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:07.900 more and more options about how to spend their 00:25:07.900 --> 00:25:12.740 free time. So you get all of this and you get 00:25:12.740 --> 00:25:15.559 these newer hams who go, you know, I don't have 00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:17.960 the help that I need to help me engage with this 00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:19.920 thing that I thought was going to be fun and 00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:27.680 interesting and help me, you know, engage. So. 00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:34.640 In the past, not just this little bottle of instant 00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:38.559 Elmer's. No. You know, you can pull out and open 00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:41.579 up the bottle, you know, like those instant Martians. 00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:44.920 Yeah. You know, you just pour water on them and 00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:48.880 poof. You know, you can't do that. They're not 00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:52.319 there. I don't know if we want to equate Elmers 00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:54.799 and Martians. Martians? Well, you never know. 00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:58.039 You know, we got the Mars generation coming up 00:25:58.039 --> 00:26:04.269 now, so, you know. Yep. And there is the Mars 00:26:04.269 --> 00:26:08.289 award, too, the Elzer Mathis Cup. Somebody's 00:26:08.289 --> 00:26:10.589 still got to win that, so let's hear it for the 00:26:10.589 --> 00:26:17.589 Mars generation. In the past, ARL has made a 00:26:17.589 --> 00:26:20.049 few attempts to address these beginner hams. 00:26:20.250 --> 00:26:25.990 We've done things in QST, but newer hams approach 00:26:25.990 --> 00:26:30.289 QST, and on the way to Finding a section that's 00:26:30.289 --> 00:26:32.670 in there just for them They're faced with all 00:26:32.670 --> 00:26:35.529 this more advanced stuff for for the more knowledgeable 00:26:35.529 --> 00:26:39.849 hands and it's it's a kind of a turnoff for them 00:26:39.849 --> 00:26:46.849 So This group of managers in 2017 thought well 00:26:46.849 --> 00:26:50.450 What you know, what can we do there? these folks 00:26:50.450 --> 00:26:54.809 really are just crying out for help and they've 00:26:54.809 --> 00:26:59.440 been This is a need that we've heard of for quite 00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:04.059 a long time now. How can we serve this group? 00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:07.940 We're ARL, we're in a unique position to do it. 00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:12.500 We have all these resources. How can we channel 00:27:12.500 --> 00:27:21.200 these resources best to serve these people? So 00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:23.019 this group got together and looked at several 00:27:23.019 --> 00:27:26.000 years worth of data that we had already taken 00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:29.880 on this group. And led by our membership manager, 00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:36.140 Diane Petrilli, KB1RNF. And Diane is just a real 00:27:36.140 --> 00:27:38.740 whiz with data. She sort of knows how to tell 00:27:38.740 --> 00:27:42.619 stories with data. We got a pretty good picture 00:27:42.619 --> 00:27:44.980 of the type of beginner ham that needed help. 00:27:45.819 --> 00:27:48.660 But we still had a lot we needed to learn. before 00:27:48.660 --> 00:27:51.400 we could move forward and do something toward 00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:57.240 helping them. So back in 2017, we got permission 00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:03.099 to conduct a statistically valid survey of hams 00:28:03.099 --> 00:28:06.359 that were relatively new, that weren't ARL members, 00:28:06.980 --> 00:28:11.420 to find out what they might need. And we spent 00:28:11.420 --> 00:28:13.460 a few months carefully developing these survey 00:28:13.460 --> 00:28:20.200 questions to find out not just Not only in terms 00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:22.579 of their interest and needs in ham radio, but 00:28:22.579 --> 00:28:27.799 who they were as people and We also wanted to 00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:29.900 give them something to respond to other than 00:28:29.900 --> 00:28:33.039 just survey questions Because if we were going 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:35.420 to consider creating new products and services 00:28:35.420 --> 00:28:37.819 to help new hands We really wanted to make sure 00:28:37.819 --> 00:28:42.279 we would give them something That was as close 00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:45.079 as possible to something they would actually 00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:48.180 want instead of something that we made up on 00:28:48.180 --> 00:28:51.420 our own without asking them, you know, hey, what 00:28:51.420 --> 00:28:53.259 if we, what if we gave you this? Do you like 00:28:53.259 --> 00:28:55.460 that? You know, what, what if we gave you this? 00:28:55.579 --> 00:28:59.339 What do you think of that? Um, so rather than 00:28:59.339 --> 00:29:04.180 sort of go blindly into this, um, we cooked up 00:29:04.180 --> 00:29:06.700 some things to show them that they could weigh 00:29:06.700 --> 00:29:09.640 in on and help to guide us. So we put together 00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:13.220 a package of test material. sort of beginner 00:29:13.220 --> 00:29:16.000 to intermediate level, things like how to call 00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:20.720 CQ, what's proper mic technique, how do you choose 00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:25.660 your first handheld, things like that. And for 00:29:25.660 --> 00:29:28.920 efficiency's sake, we gave it all a magazine 00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:32.519 layout and we called the finished package on 00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:37.259 the air. And it looked like a magazine. It was 00:29:37.259 --> 00:29:40.980 a 32 page magazine for all intents and purposes. 00:29:42.379 --> 00:29:45.799 So we mailed out the surveys, we mailed out copies 00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:49.500 of this test material that looked like this mini 00:29:49.500 --> 00:29:53.160 magazine called On the Air. And the responses 00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:55.460 started to come in and the response to the material 00:29:55.460 --> 00:29:58.519 was overwhelmingly positive. Hams loved it. They 00:29:58.519 --> 00:30:01.980 said, you know, is this a magazine? Are you going 00:30:01.980 --> 00:30:04.200 to make this? How can I get this? This is what 00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:08.460 I've been looking for. You know, this is what 00:30:08.829 --> 00:30:11.750 the community really needs, you know, I hope 00:30:11.750 --> 00:30:17.549 you're gonna do this and We found out from the 00:30:17.549 --> 00:30:21.529 survey some stuff about how these newer hams 00:30:21.529 --> 00:30:26.549 wanted to engage with amateur radio We found 00:30:26.549 --> 00:30:29.809 out about other types of things they were interested 00:30:29.809 --> 00:30:34.170 in Beyond amateur radio or maybe other interests 00:30:34.170 --> 00:30:36.430 they had that they wanted to combine with amateur 00:30:36.430 --> 00:30:41.059 radio and we found out they wanted to know how 00:30:41.059 --> 00:30:44.740 to use radio technology to do all sorts of things. 00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:50.480 The technology itself being sort of a means to 00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:54.759 all kinds of ends, not necessarily, I need to 00:30:54.759 --> 00:30:56.539 know how to get on the radio so I can talk to 00:30:56.539 --> 00:31:00.059 people all over the world. These folks have cell 00:31:00.059 --> 00:31:03.819 phones that they use for that. So with all of 00:31:03.819 --> 00:31:07.200 that information, this group of ARL managers 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:12.589 took all this info to upper management and we 00:31:12.589 --> 00:31:17.730 started talking about potential strategies and 00:31:17.730 --> 00:31:20.430 all of this was back in 2017 and you know now 00:31:20.430 --> 00:31:27.890 it's it's nearly 2020 and and on the airs time 00:31:27.890 --> 00:31:31.910 has come and we are working on the first issue 00:31:31.910 --> 00:31:36.369 it is going to be a magazine it's going to be 00:31:36.369 --> 00:31:40.569 bi -monthly The first issue will be January, 00:31:40.569 --> 00:31:45.809 February, 2020. It goes to the printer in a month, 00:31:46.089 --> 00:31:49.569 and it'll be in people's hands by mid -January. 00:31:50.349 --> 00:31:57.910 And On the Air magazine is only the first of 00:31:57.910 --> 00:32:00.690 a bunch of new things that we're going to be 00:32:00.690 --> 00:32:05.230 putting out there to support newer hams and beginner 00:32:05.230 --> 00:32:10.130 to intermediate hams. because we've heard the 00:32:10.130 --> 00:32:14.829 cry in the wilderness, so to speak, and we feel 00:32:14.829 --> 00:32:19.009 like we have an approach now that's driven by 00:32:19.009 --> 00:32:23.150 them, rather than something that we've cooked 00:32:23.150 --> 00:32:26.809 up sitting in an office. We've actually talked 00:32:26.809 --> 00:32:30.589 to the community, and what you're gonna see now 00:32:30.589 --> 00:32:35.390 is... what we've created based on things that 00:32:35.390 --> 00:32:38.869 real hands have told us that they want and need. 00:32:39.049 --> 00:32:44.210 Well, I applaud the decision and the efforts 00:32:44.210 --> 00:32:49.250 to figure all that out and to get some of that 00:32:49.250 --> 00:32:54.369 information in the hands of those people. It's 00:32:54.369 --> 00:32:58.869 happening a lot with podcasts too. There's a 00:32:58.869 --> 00:33:03.140 cry out there for information. about, you know, 00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:06.500 how to do what a lot of us think of as a simple 00:33:06.500 --> 00:33:10.079 task. If you haven't done it before, you need 00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:13.799 some guidance and it's there. So we're going 00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:17.400 to talk more about on the air and the distribution 00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:19.519 of that and everything. We're running a little 00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:22.619 over. So let's get a break in here and then we're 00:33:22.619 --> 00:33:24.619 going to come back and talk more with Becky and 00:33:24.619 --> 00:33:26.539 take your calls. And we've got some tweets to 00:33:26.539 --> 00:33:29.059 go through. So we'll do that when we come back 00:33:29.059 --> 00:33:31.240 after this word from Tower Electronics right 00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:41.539 here on HamTalk Live. Come on kids, let's go! 00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:46.299 There's just one place to go for all of your 00:33:46.299 --> 00:33:51.970 connector needs! TOWER ELECTRONICS A giant warehouse 00:33:51.970 --> 00:33:54.890 of connectors and adapters for every occasion. 00:33:55.390 --> 00:33:57.569 Thousands to choose from in every shape, size 00:33:57.569 --> 00:34:00.069 and color. 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Eastern time 00:36:24.369 --> 00:36:27.670 right here at HamTalkLive .com and be sure to 00:36:27.670 --> 00:36:30.269 check us out on Facebook Twitter and Instagram 00:36:30.750 --> 00:36:33.210 And it's time for your questions now. So if you 00:36:33.210 --> 00:36:35.690 have a question for Becky, give us a call at 00:36:35.690 --> 00:36:41.090 812 -638 -4261. Or you can tweet us. It's at 00:36:41.090 --> 00:36:43.630 HamTalk Live on Twitter. We have several of those 00:36:43.630 --> 00:36:46.360 to go through, so we'll... work through as many 00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:48.199 of those as we can. And if you're listening to 00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:52.820 us on WTWW or the podcast edition, sorry, we're 00:36:52.820 --> 00:36:56.400 not here. It's Thursday, so you're out of luck. 00:36:57.699 --> 00:37:00.079 So, Becky, let's finish up a little bit with 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:04.440 this on the air. You've taught us how that came 00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:09.400 about and how all of the research went into figuring 00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:12.280 out exactly what people are wanting and that's 00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:16.590 coming soon. Talk a little bit about the members' 00:37:16.809 --> 00:37:21.949 choices of which one they receive and which method, 00:37:22.550 --> 00:37:27.230 because it's a little confusing when you do a 00:37:27.230 --> 00:37:29.829 new project and you've got some options there. 00:37:30.889 --> 00:37:33.530 There's a little bit of a learning curve, so 00:37:33.530 --> 00:37:36.610 kind of walk us through the different choices 00:37:36.610 --> 00:37:40.190 of the distribution of the two magazines. Yeah, 00:37:40.190 --> 00:37:45.130 we are actually getting fairly steady flow of 00:37:45.130 --> 00:37:48.289 calls and emails about this. Right now, members 00:37:48.289 --> 00:37:52.489 can opt into only one print magazine. If you're 00:37:52.489 --> 00:37:56.289 a member, you can choose QST or on the air in 00:37:56.289 --> 00:38:02.849 print, only one. All members can access both 00:38:02.849 --> 00:38:06.510 magazines in digital. So for now, you can only 00:38:06.510 --> 00:38:09.190 have one in print, but everybody gets both in 00:38:09.190 --> 00:38:12.820 digital. We're hearing from quite a few people 00:38:12.820 --> 00:38:16.159 who want both magazines in print. We hear you, 00:38:16.340 --> 00:38:21.260 we hear you, we hear you. That's dependent upon 00:38:21.260 --> 00:38:25.420 some infrastructure stuff that needs to happen. 00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:27.920 We're hoping to have the new infrastructure in 00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:33.599 place about midway through 2020. So members should 00:38:33.599 --> 00:38:36.760 keep an eye on our feeds, the news feed, the 00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:39.159 social media outlets for announcements about 00:38:39.230 --> 00:38:45.550 progress in that regard. So we are looking next 00:38:45.550 --> 00:38:49.610 year toward making both magazines available in 00:38:49.610 --> 00:38:52.969 print. We just, you know, we need to get a few 00:38:52.969 --> 00:38:55.889 other things in place first. It's really exciting. 00:38:57.130 --> 00:38:59.710 You know, the fact that people want both, you 00:38:59.710 --> 00:39:02.670 know, lets us know that the community is excited 00:39:02.670 --> 00:39:05.190 about this. We're all really excited and we're 00:39:05.190 --> 00:39:10.440 really excited that you're excited too. There's 00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:15.380 also going to be a podcast related to On The 00:39:15.380 --> 00:39:18.179 Air that will sort of extend the content of each 00:39:18.179 --> 00:39:22.159 issue and folks will be hearing more about the 00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:25.139 launch of that podcast. There's going to be an 00:39:25.139 --> 00:39:28.400 On The Air blog as well that will launch early 00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:32.880 next year that will be Curated stories from out 00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:35.079 in the beginner ham radio community what people 00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:38.119 are doing with the technology What kind of projects 00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:40.059 they're doing how they're making connections 00:39:40.059 --> 00:39:44.639 within the community? so It's gonna be more than 00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:48.559 just a magazine that the content will be extended 00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:53.780 through the podcast and it will be Sort of riffed 00:39:53.780 --> 00:39:57.659 on through this blog. So if you're a beginner 00:39:57.659 --> 00:40:01.159 ham or if you're a more experienced ham who wants 00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:04.260 to know, you know, what's driving beginner hams, 00:40:04.460 --> 00:40:06.860 we're going to have a bunch of different ways 00:40:06.860 --> 00:40:12.400 that you can engage with ham radio at that level 00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:16.320 through the blog and the podcast and the magazine. 00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:21.860 Sounds great. I'm looking forward to seeing the 00:40:21.860 --> 00:40:25.739 new magazine and all the stuff to go with it 00:40:25.739 --> 00:40:30.239 because I deal with high school students and 00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:33.920 trying to get young people into ham radio and 00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:37.260 anytime you do that you got to start with the 00:40:37.260 --> 00:40:44.519 basics and so I have QST sitting there and sometimes 00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:49.139 we dig those out and look at them but something 00:40:49.139 --> 00:40:53.099 a little more on their level would be Greatly 00:40:53.099 --> 00:40:55.960 appreciated. So look forward to seeing that. 00:40:55.980 --> 00:40:58.940 Well, we have several tweets here I'm going to 00:40:58.940 --> 00:41:01.599 try to get through those and I think we've got 00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:06.699 a call or two coming so Let me get through a 00:41:06.699 --> 00:41:08.920 couple of tweets here and then we'll take some 00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:15.769 calls at 812 -638 -4261. That's the phone number, 00:41:15.809 --> 00:41:21.630 812 -638 -4261. First of all, Jim, K5ND says 00:41:21.630 --> 00:41:24.050 thanks for your great coverage of radio scouting 00:41:24.050 --> 00:41:28.269 and from Jamborees to Jamboree on the air and 00:41:28.269 --> 00:41:32.530 Jim's a friend of the show and so I echo that 00:41:32.530 --> 00:41:36.309 as well. Yep. Hi, Jim. It's nice to hear from 00:41:36.309 --> 00:41:40.110 you. I work with Jim quite a bit. And he keeps 00:41:40.110 --> 00:41:43.010 us supplied with all kinds of great info about 00:41:43.010 --> 00:41:45.769 what the Scouts are doing with radio. So it's 00:41:45.769 --> 00:41:49.369 nice to hear from you, Jim. We've got a tweet 00:41:49.369 --> 00:41:53.090 from Michael. He says, with a publication that's 00:41:53.090 --> 00:41:56.030 been around for so long, how do you decide when 00:41:56.030 --> 00:42:00.460 it's necessary to revisit subjects? What information 00:42:00.460 --> 00:42:03.440 is important enough that it requires more constant 00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:05.880 stories? And I want to hear this one because 00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:08.780 I'm wondering the same thing about this show. 00:42:09.699 --> 00:42:13.900 I want to hear this one. Yeah, it really applies 00:42:13.900 --> 00:42:18.099 to anybody who's creating content, really. That's 00:42:18.099 --> 00:42:21.480 a great question. Not an easy one to answer. 00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:29.750 One way that we approach it is trends. what's 00:42:29.750 --> 00:42:32.050 one of the biggest trends in ham radio and now 00:42:32.050 --> 00:42:38.010 FT8. So you're seeing FT8 pop up a lot in QST 00:42:38.010 --> 00:42:41.849 in different ways from slightly different angles. 00:42:42.170 --> 00:42:46.829 And I think that's the word that is the key to 00:42:46.829 --> 00:42:52.309 all of this is angles. Something else that comes 00:42:52.309 --> 00:42:56.469 up a lot is balloon launches. Particularly if 00:42:56.469 --> 00:43:02.510 we're talking about college hams or young hams 00:43:02.510 --> 00:43:07.190 or teachers trying to introduce radio, we get 00:43:07.190 --> 00:43:10.150 a lot of inquiries going, you know, I did a balloon 00:43:10.150 --> 00:43:12.889 launch. Do you want to run an article about this 00:43:12.889 --> 00:43:17.670 balloon launch? And that's when we have to sort 00:43:17.670 --> 00:43:20.510 of evaluate, okay, well, when was the last time 00:43:20.510 --> 00:43:22.949 we did a balloon launch article? What was the 00:43:22.949 --> 00:43:26.239 hook? What was the angle? Okay, what kind of 00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:29.239 story does this person want to tell? What's their 00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:33.699 hook? What's their angle? Sometimes the person 00:43:33.699 --> 00:43:37.840 pitching the story thinks the angle is one thing 00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:40.260 and then we listen to what they have to say and 00:43:40.260 --> 00:43:44.019 we go, no, your angle's really over here. We 00:43:44.019 --> 00:43:45.980 know you think it's this, but it's really this. 00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:48.860 What would you think about refocusing the story 00:43:48.860 --> 00:43:51.719 that way? Because if we did it that way, that's 00:43:51.719 --> 00:44:00.000 something we can use. So that's part of it is 00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:03.119 what's hot right now. If it's something that 00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:09.900 is really hot, we may run several things in issues 00:44:09.900 --> 00:44:12.960 that are fairly close to each other, issues that 00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:15.659 are back to back because it's a hot topic at 00:44:15.659 --> 00:44:19.780 the moment. But there are some things that are 00:44:19.780 --> 00:44:24.949 less timely, less less trending that we still 00:44:24.949 --> 00:44:28.349 just get a lot of because they're things that 00:44:28.349 --> 00:44:33.150 are favorites of the community. They're things 00:44:33.150 --> 00:44:36.449 that are favorite teaching tools. And that's 00:44:36.449 --> 00:44:38.590 when we have to kind of evaluate a little more 00:44:38.590 --> 00:44:41.809 and go, well, you know, does this is this being 00:44:41.809 --> 00:44:44.550 presented in a way that's fresh? Is there something 00:44:44.550 --> 00:44:46.570 that readers are going to be able to take away 00:44:46.570 --> 00:44:50.469 from this that we haven't already shown them? 00:44:51.260 --> 00:44:54.519 So those are a couple of ways that we look at 00:44:54.519 --> 00:45:01.099 that. And it also speaks to when we decline a 00:45:01.099 --> 00:45:06.760 manuscript, when we reject a manuscript, there 00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:08.679 are any number of reasons why something gets 00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:12.480 rejected. And a lot of times the reason why something 00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:17.570 gets rejected is because we've done it. Maybe 00:45:17.570 --> 00:45:21.010 we've done it to death and and we just can't 00:45:21.010 --> 00:45:25.769 run another article about You know this particular 00:45:25.769 --> 00:45:31.670 whatever it is Really good question Yeah, and 00:45:31.670 --> 00:45:34.690 I I'm kind of you know, we're up to episode 190 00:45:34.690 --> 00:45:37.789 now and it's like yeah I'll get a question about 00:45:37.789 --> 00:45:41.489 well, you know Are there any you know, can you 00:45:41.489 --> 00:45:44.730 do one on how to get you know high school students 00:45:44.730 --> 00:45:48.940 into ham radio? Well Did that it was back on 00:45:48.940 --> 00:45:52.179 you know, it's like so, you know, I'll give them 00:45:52.179 --> 00:45:54.360 the episode number But but then it kind of makes 00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:57.780 me think well when maybe should we do it again 00:45:57.780 --> 00:46:01.840 because you know It's it's way back there and 00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:04.960 you know, different people are listening. So 00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:12.210 yeah I'll say when you know I'll go into Steve 00:46:12.210 --> 00:46:14.550 Ford's office and say, when was the last time 00:46:14.550 --> 00:46:20.449 we did something on mesh? Why am I thinking it 00:46:20.449 --> 00:46:24.070 was last year? And he'll say, oh yeah, it was 00:46:24.070 --> 00:46:26.250 last year. Or it'll be something else to say, 00:46:26.329 --> 00:46:29.510 oh no, that was three years ago. Because when 00:46:29.510 --> 00:46:31.750 you work in magazines, your sense of time is 00:46:31.750 --> 00:46:34.769 completely messed up. I mean, I think it's January 00:46:34.769 --> 00:46:38.760 already. But sometimes it is just that. Well, 00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:40.619 you know, we've done this before, but we haven't 00:46:40.619 --> 00:46:45.159 done it in five years. So, okay, yeah, it's time 00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:50.980 to bring this topic in again. 812 -638 -4261. 00:46:51.059 --> 00:46:53.780 Now's the time to call. If you're going to do 00:46:53.780 --> 00:46:56.019 that tonight, give us a call right now at 812 00:46:56.019 --> 00:47:04.260 -638 -4261. And we've got one more here. And 00:47:04.260 --> 00:47:07.000 we're already over time, so I'm going to kind 00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:11.699 of trim this down a little bit. But this is from 00:47:11.699 --> 00:47:16.760 Tom. He's a longtime writer and editor in some 00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:21.920 of the tech stuff. And he's kind of wanting to 00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:27.000 know, sometimes articles are kind of unattributed 00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:32.809 and says that When a writer says, you know something 00:47:32.809 --> 00:47:35.550 happened to me. We don't know who the me is What 00:47:35.550 --> 00:47:42.329 what's the policy on on the bylines? I'm not 00:47:42.329 --> 00:47:45.289 really sure what Tom's referring to if if there's 00:47:45.289 --> 00:47:47.949 a me in an article then there's definitely a 00:47:47.949 --> 00:47:54.150 byline most of what's in QST is byline and What 00:47:54.150 --> 00:47:58.269 we have been hearing is that when we redesigned 00:47:58.590 --> 00:48:02.670 Recently we put the bylines way up at the top 00:48:02.670 --> 00:48:08.630 of the page the top left in a pretty small pretty 00:48:08.630 --> 00:48:12.349 fine font and a lot of people are missing the 00:48:12.349 --> 00:48:16.550 bylines so Tom take another look look at the 00:48:16.550 --> 00:48:21.269 the top left corner of the page and You hopefully 00:48:21.269 --> 00:48:24.789 will see the bylines up there Almost everything 00:48:24.789 --> 00:48:28.070 in there's bylined And I can't imagine that we 00:48:28.070 --> 00:48:33.489 would run something that said, you know, I worked, 00:48:33.489 --> 00:48:39.469 you know, Jerry at this time, you know, without 00:48:39.469 --> 00:48:43.289 there being a byline on that piece. So this may 00:48:43.289 --> 00:48:46.789 be the fault of our tiny little byline font. 00:48:48.550 --> 00:48:50.829 Okay. Well, we've got a couple of calls here. 00:48:50.869 --> 00:48:54.429 So let me jump to one and I believe we have. 00:48:55.579 --> 00:49:00.019 Jocelyn, good evening. Good evening, Neil, and 00:49:00.019 --> 00:49:02.920 good evening, Becky. I was just listening to 00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:05.320 a show, great topic. I'm looking forward to see 00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:08.239 what the new magazine looks like. But Mike, the 00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:10.960 question is kind of a two -part. If somebody 00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:13.699 wants to submit an article, what would be the 00:49:13.699 --> 00:49:17.429 process? That's number one. And what kind of 00:49:17.429 --> 00:49:19.550 art, what type of article are you mostly looking 00:49:19.550 --> 00:49:22.170 for the On The Air magazine? I guess less technical, 00:49:22.190 --> 00:49:25.190 but if you can give us just kind of an idea of 00:49:25.190 --> 00:49:27.510 what you're looking for and hopefully listeners 00:49:27.510 --> 00:49:31.010 will kind of help you fill the magazine up, so 00:49:31.010 --> 00:49:36.469 to speak. Hi, Jocelyn. Thanks so much for calling. 00:49:36.590 --> 00:49:40.489 And that is a very good question. On The Air 00:49:40.489 --> 00:49:45.110 technically isn't open for submissions yet. It 00:49:45.110 --> 00:49:49.170 is in the very early stages, we are doing a lot 00:49:49.170 --> 00:49:53.309 of editorial strategy and planning and because 00:49:53.309 --> 00:49:58.030 we are approaching this audience kind of methodically, 00:49:58.510 --> 00:50:03.230 we need very specific things. So it's not quite 00:50:03.230 --> 00:50:06.510 open yet. A lot of stuff is being solicited, 00:50:06.530 --> 00:50:10.250 a lot of stuff is being staff written. QST is 00:50:10.250 --> 00:50:15.260 always open for submissions and The short answer 00:50:15.260 --> 00:50:19.820 to that question is a very simple, easy -to -remember 00:50:19.820 --> 00:50:26.820 email address, which is QST at ARRL .org. All 00:50:26.820 --> 00:50:29.960 submissions go to that address. They'll be automatically 00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:34.199 entered into our manuscript evaluation process. 00:50:35.860 --> 00:50:40.400 And there's also more information online. about 00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:43.619 submitting to QST, if you go to ARL's website, 00:50:43.940 --> 00:50:49.480 arl .org, and do a search on author guide. There 00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:51.940 is an extensive author guide for folks who want 00:50:51.940 --> 00:50:58.400 to write for QST or QEX or NCJ, ARL's other two 00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:01.719 currently existing publications, as opposed to 00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:04.820 On the Air, which doesn't quite exist yet. But 00:51:04.820 --> 00:51:13.199 there are There's currently an opportunity to 00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:15.880 write for On The Air. There's a personal essay 00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:20.280 opportunity that so far I've been approaching 00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:26.360 people for because we're in the stage of really 00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:29.659 shaping the editorial. And while we're still 00:51:29.659 --> 00:51:32.719 in those stages, we're kind of keeping a pretty 00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:36.610 tight lid on what goes in. But we have accepted 00:51:36.610 --> 00:51:38.750 a few things that have just come in over the 00:51:38.750 --> 00:51:41.230 transom purely by chance that have been right 00:51:41.230 --> 00:51:44.670 for on the air. So it's not impossible. It's 00:51:44.670 --> 00:51:48.090 just that the funnel is very, very narrow right 00:51:48.090 --> 00:51:54.170 now because we're still shaping it. All right. 00:51:54.190 --> 00:51:56.369 Well, thank you very much for answering that. 00:51:56.789 --> 00:51:59.909 And Neil, good show. And we'll keep on listening. 00:51:59.949 --> 00:52:01.869 Thank you so much for taking the call. Thank 00:52:01.869 --> 00:52:06.699 you. All right, Jocelyn. Thank you. Seven three 00:52:06.699 --> 00:52:10.739 All right. Well, we've got Brian trying to call 00:52:10.739 --> 00:52:14.719 in and Skype's not letting me add a third call. 00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:19.159 So Brian call now And we'll see if we can get 00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:20.880 you in here and you're gonna get the last word 00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:25.400 here Well, there we go, let's see if we can get 00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:37.170 it to work and Are you there Brian? And it didn't 00:52:37.170 --> 00:52:42.530 merge right and if I hit this button I may Lose 00:52:42.530 --> 00:52:47.449 you Becky. Okay. Oh, no Let's see if that worked 00:52:47.449 --> 00:52:49.610 that was a different merge button. Are you there 00:52:49.610 --> 00:52:59.469 Brian? No, Brian Okay, okay, let me try this 00:52:59.469 --> 00:53:04.400 I don't know. I'm almost sure that's gonna That's 00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:07.300 going to mess things up here. Let me do this. 00:53:07.659 --> 00:53:12.380 Let me see if I can call. Brian, are you there? 00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:15.940 Okay, but I think I've lost Becky. Are you there, 00:53:16.059 --> 00:53:19.980 Becky? I'm here. Can you hear me? Oh, okay. We 00:53:19.980 --> 00:53:23.059 got it. It worked. It says it didn't work. It 00:53:23.059 --> 00:53:26.579 says it didn't work, but apparently it works. 00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:32.679 Actually, Brian, can you talk a second? Yeah, 00:53:32.679 --> 00:53:36.159 this is Brian kg5 GT. How's it going Neil? All 00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:37.800 right, you're coming through here Becky. Are 00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:41.179 you hearing him? I can hear you. I can't hear 00:53:41.179 --> 00:53:43.780 Brian. You can't hear Brian Okay, I think I've 00:53:43.780 --> 00:53:46.099 figured out what's going on Skype opened up a 00:53:46.099 --> 00:53:49.480 second window. So I'll relay so Brian go ahead 00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:53.940 I was just wondering. I know they had made some 00:53:53.940 --> 00:53:58.480 changes to QSD in January of 2018 I've enjoyed 00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:00.260 the changes. I look forward to getting it every 00:54:00.260 --> 00:54:02.119 month. I was just wondering what the feedback 00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:04.920 on the changes have been from other members. 00:54:06.579 --> 00:54:08.920 Okay, Brian is asking about some of the changes 00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:12.840 that were made here in the last year or so to 00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:18.800 QST. He's wondering about some of the feedback. 00:54:19.179 --> 00:54:21.440 Have you heard any feedback about the changes 00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:25.159 from any of the membership, how those changes 00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:32.739 are being received? The changes are largely being 00:54:32.739 --> 00:54:42.159 received along generational lines. We're doing 00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:47.219 some more sort of magazine style pieces in the 00:54:47.219 --> 00:54:54.760 general interest that are I think the more classic 00:54:54.760 --> 00:55:01.760 hams. want to see more traditional topics. They 00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:07.940 don't want QST to move into some of the newer 00:55:07.940 --> 00:55:13.960 areas we've been exploring. Whereas some more 00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:17.659 adventurous folks and some younger folks, and 00:55:17.659 --> 00:55:21.179 by younger I mean people in their 50s and 60s, 00:55:22.059 --> 00:55:25.780 have really embraced those articles, like a prime 00:55:25.780 --> 00:55:30.840 example is some of the stuff we've done tying 00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:33.940 into popular culture, like Stranger Things or 00:55:33.940 --> 00:55:38.739 Die Hard. The feedback we get on pieces like 00:55:38.739 --> 00:55:45.679 that is very, the generational lines are pretty 00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:52.079 clearly drawn there. So it's mixed and The thing 00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:56.659 about magazines is that they change all the time 00:55:56.659 --> 00:56:00.480 because the people those magazines are serving 00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:06.860 are changing all the time. And we're making changes 00:56:06.860 --> 00:56:10.139 that maybe folks don't even necessarily notice. 00:56:12.760 --> 00:56:17.159 But, you know, magazines change otherwise. If 00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:22.480 they don't change, they die. If people, you know, 00:56:22.659 --> 00:56:25.000 don't continue changing and growing and learning, 00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:27.960 you know, maybe they don't die, but you sort 00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:30.639 of if you're not continuing to change and grow, 00:56:31.539 --> 00:56:35.159 some folks say you might as well be dead. But 00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:37.599 magazines are like that, too. They're always 00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:41.539 changing. They're always evolving. QST isn't 00:56:41.539 --> 00:56:45.719 going away just because we're doing on the air. 00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:48.639 QST serves a different audience than on the air 00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:55.420 does. And so there are folks who love it no matter 00:56:55.420 --> 00:56:59.219 what, and there are folks who are critical of 00:56:59.219 --> 00:57:04.059 anything they see that looks, sounds, smells, 00:57:04.900 --> 00:57:08.900 you know, like anything than their specific interests 00:57:08.900 --> 00:57:15.440 that they want to see in QSD. All right. Well, 00:57:15.699 --> 00:57:18.440 there you have it, Brian. Thank you so much for 00:57:18.440 --> 00:57:21.800 calling in. Sorry that Skype was being troublesome 00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:25.940 tonight. It's not the first time tonight. All 00:57:25.940 --> 00:57:28.139 right. No problem. Enjoy the show and thanks 00:57:28.139 --> 00:57:31.659 for having the answer. All right. Thank you, 00:57:31.659 --> 00:57:36.000 Brian. Appreciate it. All right. Take care. All 00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:39.940 right. You too. Bye bye. All right. Well, we're 00:57:39.940 --> 00:57:43.619 going to finish things up here. I've kept you 00:57:43.619 --> 00:57:48.250 over times and we still have Some stuff we didn't 00:57:48.250 --> 00:57:51.389 get to but I think we've we've hit most of it 00:57:51.389 --> 00:57:55.550 at least a little bit and Tom says Gosh, yes, 00:57:55.610 --> 00:58:00.630 the fonts are really small. So You took care 00:58:00.630 --> 00:58:05.670 of that one so Sorry, Tom, we didn't get to everything 00:58:05.670 --> 00:58:09.949 else there on the list tonight, but we're running 00:58:09.949 --> 00:58:12.909 way over. But appreciate you taking the time 00:58:12.909 --> 00:58:16.449 to write in. Well, we're going to finish things 00:58:16.449 --> 00:58:20.409 up. And I want to thank you, Becky, for coming 00:58:20.409 --> 00:58:24.369 on and talking about all this. And it's an exciting 00:58:24.369 --> 00:58:28.309 time with the new magazine and some of the changes 00:58:28.309 --> 00:58:32.639 in QST. Thanks for being here. Any final comments 00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:37.300 before we go? Well, thanks so much, Neil, for 00:58:37.300 --> 00:58:39.940 having me on. This has been a lot of fun, and 00:58:39.940 --> 00:58:43.760 it's a very exciting time at ARRL. We're making 00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:48.739 changes that a lot of us have sort of talked 00:58:48.739 --> 00:58:52.599 about for years, and we finally are being given 00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:57.539 the chance to do some of this stuff. It's really 00:58:57.539 --> 00:59:00.559 exciting. You're going to see a lot of very interesting 00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:05.079 things out of ARRL in 2020, including an education 00:59:05.079 --> 00:59:08.219 program that we didn't get to touch upon tonight. 00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:12.280 series of online courses, but maybe that'll just 00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:15.739 wet people's interest and They will have to wait 00:59:15.739 --> 00:59:19.739 until 2020 to hear some more about it And we 00:59:19.739 --> 00:59:22.960 may have to pull Chris back on the show and yep 00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:26.300 and start talking about those so Well, thank 00:59:26.300 --> 00:59:29.860 you so much for being here. I appreciate it and 00:59:29.860 --> 00:59:32.739 You know, there's a lot of interest here. So 00:59:32.739 --> 00:59:37.239 so maybe we will revisit it again Yeah, very 00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:40.940 cool It's been really fun, so it's been great 00:59:40.940 --> 00:59:43.119 to get out some of this excitement with you all 00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:46.659 here tonight. All right. Well, thank you so much, 00:59:46.900 --> 00:59:50.800 Becky. That is a wrap for this week's edition 00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:53.920 of HamTalk Live. Thanks to my guest, Becky Schoenfeld, 00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:57.219 W1BXY, and everybody out there in cyberspace 00:59:57.219 --> 01:00:00.760 for listening and calling in and typing in. And 01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:02.880 I'll invite you back next Thursday night at 9 01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:05.840 p .m. When it when it's time for me to get excited 01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:08.659 about a new project. Yeah, youth on the air camp 01:00:08.659 --> 01:00:12.139 was announced last night and I don't even know 01:00:12.139 --> 01:00:14.559 who's coming on the show. Jocelyn may be here, 01:00:14.739 --> 01:00:19.360 Sterling, Sam. I don't even know yet, so we're 01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:21.219 going to have some of the youth on the air people 01:00:21.219 --> 01:00:25.079 on here with me and we'll talk about the youth 01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:28.780 on the air camp and it's going to be on ham radio 01:00:28.780 --> 01:00:32.730 crash course tomorrow, so. Be sure to check out 01:00:32.730 --> 01:00:36.809 Josh's show over on YouTube if you can and you'll 01:00:36.809 --> 01:00:40.429 hear a little more about the camp there as well, 01:00:40.570 --> 01:00:43.789 as well as a lot of other places. So we look 01:00:43.789 --> 01:00:46.369 forward to talking about that and getting this 01:00:46.369 --> 01:00:48.949 camp off the ground. For a list of all of our 01:00:48.949 --> 01:00:52.289 upcoming guests, visit HamTalkLive .com and if 01:00:52.289 --> 01:00:54.230 you like the show, please leave us a review on 01:00:54.230 --> 01:00:56.929 iTunes. That helps other people find us faster. 01:00:57.329 --> 01:01:00.949 So for now, this is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG. saying 01:01:00.949 --> 01:01:05.369 7375 and may the good DX be yours.