WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.680 This episode of HamTalk Live is brought to you 00:00:02.680 --> 00:00:06.080 by Tower Electronics. For connectors, cables, 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:13.000 and more, call 920 -435 -2973 or visit pl -259 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:17.699 .com. And by ICOM, heard it, worked it, logged 00:00:17.699 --> 00:00:22.920 it. Visit www .icomamerica .com slash amateur 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:59.960 for more information about ICOM radios. More 00:00:59.960 --> 00:01:05.930 catchy than the 877 cars for kids Commercial 00:01:05.930 --> 00:01:09.250 to the ham talk live theme music good evening 00:01:09.250 --> 00:01:14.129 everyone. It's ham talk live episode number 201 00:01:14.129 --> 00:01:18.150 frat house ham radio recorded live on Thursday 00:01:18.150 --> 00:01:23.849 February 27th 2020 I'm your host Neil rap WB9 00:01:23.849 --> 00:01:27.790 VPG. Thanks for tuning into this episode of HamTalk 00:01:27.790 --> 00:01:30.569 Live. Tonight we're joined by Maxwell Zines, 00:01:30.629 --> 00:01:35.530 W of M4TH, and we'll take your calls live in 00:01:35.530 --> 00:01:38.950 just a few minutes. Last week on the show was 00:01:38.950 --> 00:01:42.750 episode number 200, and we took a look back at 00:01:42.750 --> 00:01:45.310 some of the favorite moments of the first 199 00:01:45.310 --> 00:01:48.469 episodes and gave away a bunch of fabulous prizes. 00:01:49.329 --> 00:01:51.370 If you missed the show, you can listen anytime 00:01:51.370 --> 00:01:54.269 at HamTalkLive .com or on your favorite podcast 00:01:54.269 --> 00:01:57.819 app. YouTube or you can catch the rebroadcast 00:01:57.819 --> 00:02:03.099 on WTWW 5085 a .m. Saturday evenings at about 00:02:03.099 --> 00:02:06.620 6 30 p .m. Eastern Time well I apologize for 00:02:06.620 --> 00:02:10.180 the voice the voice is holding up, but barely 00:02:10.180 --> 00:02:13.979 tonight been Under the weather for a few days 00:02:13.979 --> 00:02:17.379 and just kind of trying to get this all cleared 00:02:17.379 --> 00:02:22.120 up and bounce back but We will try to talk with 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:26.340 Maxwell here and he'll tell us all about his 00:02:26.340 --> 00:02:29.539 fraternities ham radio station. So if you have 00:02:29.539 --> 00:02:33.080 questions just give us a call and if you're listening 00:02:33.080 --> 00:02:35.699 to us live on Thursday night you can give us 00:02:35.699 --> 00:02:38.479 a call after the interview is over. We'll talk 00:02:38.479 --> 00:02:41.090 to him a little bit first. but I'll give you 00:02:41.090 --> 00:02:43.090 the phone number so you have that ready to go. 00:02:43.289 --> 00:02:55.169 It's 859 -982 -7373. Again, 859 -982 -7373. 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And 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:28.120 we're in the yellow pages under amateur radio 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:31.339 connectors. My, wherever did you get that lovely 00:04:31.339 --> 00:04:36.430 PL -259? Tower Electronics, PL -259 .com. or 00:04:36.430 --> 00:04:42.449 call 920 -435 -2973. Do we sell PL259 connectors? 00:04:43.490 --> 00:04:47.029 A clean house is a sign of a broken radio. You're 00:04:47.029 --> 00:05:02.959 listening to HamTalk Live with Neil Rapp. Thanks 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:05.800 to Scott and Jill at Tower Electronics for sponsoring 00:05:05.800 --> 00:05:09.019 the show once again tonight to help bring HamTalk 00:05:09.019 --> 00:05:13.180 Live your way each and every week. HamFest calendar 00:05:13.180 --> 00:05:16.420 for them coming up March 7th they'll be in Cave 00:05:16.420 --> 00:05:20.740 City, Kentucky. And then March 15th they'll be 00:05:20.740 --> 00:05:24.860 in the Toledo area in Maumee, Ohio. And then 00:05:24.860 --> 00:05:29.459 April 18th up in Wisconsin back home for them. 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:33.800 toward Madison, though, in Stoughton, Wisconsin, 00:05:33.899 --> 00:05:38.120 April 18th. So you can visit them at any of those 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:43.100 hamfests or you can visit them online at PL -259 00:05:43.100 --> 00:05:48.259 .com. Maxwell Zines, WM4TH, is a freshman at 00:05:48.259 --> 00:05:51.420 the University of Tulsa currently pursuing a 00:05:51.420 --> 00:05:54.759 triple major in mathematics, electrical engineering, 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:57.939 and physics. His passion for radio came from 00:05:57.939 --> 00:06:01.019 his dad who also got an early start in ham radio. 00:06:01.699 --> 00:06:04.480 His dad has advanced class as a teen and has 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:08.040 always been a passionate tinkerer and taught 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:11.560 his son well. He taught him a lot of the technical 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:15.699 skills he uses in the fraternities ham radio 00:06:15.699 --> 00:06:19.480 shack today. Maxwell and his dad also share great 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:22.939 enthusiasm. for the technical side of electric 00:06:22.939 --> 00:06:25.579 guitars. And so Maxwell spent a great deal of 00:06:25.579 --> 00:06:28.579 his childhood listening eagerly as his dad went 00:06:28.579 --> 00:06:31.699 through the circuitry and the guitar amp and 00:06:31.699 --> 00:06:34.379 explained what each vacuum tube and sub -circuit 00:06:34.379 --> 00:06:38.600 did to the signal to convert it to sound. All 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:40.920 this inspiration led him to continue studying 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:44.660 the tools of figuring out electronics and brought 00:06:44.660 --> 00:06:47.180 ham radio with him to college. So Maxwell, thanks 00:06:47.180 --> 00:06:49.839 for joining us on the show tonight. It's great 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:53.500 to be with you Neil. Thank you for having me. 00:06:53.939 --> 00:06:57.540 Oh Sorry had to clear my throat again there well 00:06:57.540 --> 00:07:02.160 We've seen actually we picked this up on reddit 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:06.980 and my friend Joe fitter k7joe who is the faculty 00:07:06.980 --> 00:07:09.339 sponsor at the Indiana University amateur radio 00:07:09.339 --> 00:07:13.920 club Sent sent me an email and said hey, have 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:18.410 you seen these guys on reddit and You know, they 00:07:18.410 --> 00:07:22.129 set up a shack in the fraternity. So tell us 00:07:22.129 --> 00:07:25.269 all about the ham radio club there at the fraternity 00:07:25.269 --> 00:07:29.589 and how that all started up. Well, sure. So, 00:07:29.589 --> 00:07:33.269 uh, as is common with the fraternity men, we 00:07:33.269 --> 00:07:35.750 really like to keep up with what everyone is 00:07:35.750 --> 00:07:38.529 doing. We have a, we have a chat where we just 00:07:38.529 --> 00:07:41.009 like to keep each other up to date what's going 00:07:41.009 --> 00:07:44.970 on in our lives. And, uh, actually earlier last 00:07:44.970 --> 00:07:48.819 semester. When I was going to take my exam to 00:07:48.819 --> 00:07:51.120 get my technician's license, I just put it in 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:55.240 the group chat. Hey guys, wish me luck and When 00:07:55.240 --> 00:07:57.060 all was said and done at the end of the day five 00:07:57.060 --> 00:07:59.879 of us went home with our technician class tickets, 00:07:59.939 --> 00:08:04.120 so really surprised there what I thought was 00:08:04.120 --> 00:08:09.620 just kind of a friendly shout the At the group 00:08:09.620 --> 00:08:11.660 chat ended up turning into something a lot lot 00:08:11.660 --> 00:08:15.939 bigger and What we've actually turned this into 00:08:15.939 --> 00:08:19.860 is a great opportunity to put forth our volunteerism. 00:08:20.339 --> 00:08:23.259 Volunteerism is the concept that every organization 00:08:23.259 --> 00:08:26.519 at our school holds in really high regard in 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:28.819 consideration of being allowed to operate on 00:08:28.819 --> 00:08:32.120 campus. Especially the Greek organizations take 00:08:32.120 --> 00:08:35.220 a lot of pride in organizing community service 00:08:35.220 --> 00:08:38.919 events. The club station had actually started 00:08:38.919 --> 00:08:42.019 as a unique way to satisfy our fraternities volunteer 00:08:42.019 --> 00:08:46.549 quota. We, especially as tornado season approaches 00:08:46.549 --> 00:08:49.070 in Oklahoma, are hoping to get a lot of time 00:08:49.070 --> 00:08:53.990 working with MCOM. We also really, really enjoy 00:08:53.990 --> 00:08:56.649 planning radio -related STEM activities, outreach 00:08:56.649 --> 00:09:01.049 programs, because we have a great deal of teachers 00:09:01.049 --> 00:09:04.669 and organizations, STEM organizations in Tulsa 00:09:04.669 --> 00:09:08.509 who are reaching out looking for engaging, fun 00:09:08.509 --> 00:09:12.149 lessons and plans. We really like to share that 00:09:12.149 --> 00:09:15.889 with them as well. Moreover, our club really 00:09:15.889 --> 00:09:18.110 serves as a common ground in our fraternity. 00:09:19.610 --> 00:09:21.730 We have a lot, a lot of guys. Most of us are 00:09:21.730 --> 00:09:26.889 engineers or student engineers. All of us, every 00:09:26.889 --> 00:09:29.250 single one of the five of us have a tie to either 00:09:29.250 --> 00:09:31.769 electrical or mechanical engineering. So we love 00:09:31.769 --> 00:09:35.169 the design aspect of this hobby. We love building 00:09:35.169 --> 00:09:38.860 antennas and... Fixing our equipment. That's 00:09:38.860 --> 00:09:45.860 really truly what sells it for us So We haven't 00:09:45.860 --> 00:09:47.679 even mentioned the name of the fraternity so 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:53.879 I guess we should do that and then You've set 00:09:53.879 --> 00:09:56.519 up the shack there and you said you've got five 00:09:56.519 --> 00:09:59.419 others that that just went and took the test 00:09:59.419 --> 00:10:05.929 with you So so that's your club Yes, so We were 00:10:05.929 --> 00:10:08.669 the Sigma Nu fraternity at the University of 00:10:08.669 --> 00:10:13.110 Tulsa and Yeah, absolutely. So we started actually 00:10:13.110 --> 00:10:16.889 as five We were the first five to go take the 00:10:16.889 --> 00:10:21.529 test and we have a wealth of material We've written 00:10:21.529 --> 00:10:25.470 a lot of college -friendly study material for 00:10:25.470 --> 00:10:28.570 this exam so that we can have The rest of the 00:10:28.570 --> 00:10:30.629 fraternity and hopefully, you know other people 00:10:30.629 --> 00:10:33.450 in the school once we get our club growing Take 00:10:33.450 --> 00:10:35.490 the exam. We've got two people planning to take 00:10:35.490 --> 00:10:41.250 their technicians next month Very cool. So you 00:10:41.250 --> 00:10:43.970 guys have just been getting on the air from time 00:10:43.970 --> 00:10:47.610 to time and Just kind of kicking back and making 00:10:47.610 --> 00:10:55.730 a few Q so's or if you got into You know Contesting 00:10:55.730 --> 00:10:59.409 or anything more serious than that or Q so parties 00:10:59.409 --> 00:11:03.409 or anything like that or you just you know, every 00:11:03.409 --> 00:11:07.029 once in a while, hop on the band. Well, truth 00:11:07.029 --> 00:11:09.929 be told, we're pretty limited in what we can 00:11:09.929 --> 00:11:13.350 do just by living in a fraternity house, living 00:11:13.350 --> 00:11:16.730 on campus. One of our biggest considerations 00:11:16.730 --> 00:11:21.450 is housing. They don't like antennas. We've tried. 00:11:21.649 --> 00:11:23.789 We've tried every which way. I've been told to 00:11:23.789 --> 00:11:29.149 take it down every time. So we're running about 00:11:29.149 --> 00:11:31.629 50 watts average on single sideband, about 10 00:11:31.629 --> 00:11:35.909 watts on CW. For the most part, we just love 00:11:35.909 --> 00:11:40.509 to sit in my room, pop out our quick five -minute 00:11:40.509 --> 00:11:43.830 antenna, we call it, before campus security notices 00:11:43.830 --> 00:11:46.789 and see what we can do. We work a lot of local 00:11:46.789 --> 00:11:51.129 guys, really, really friendly. They've been super 00:11:51.129 --> 00:11:54.590 welcoming, given us a lot of tips, really encouraged 00:11:54.590 --> 00:11:56.889 us to keep going with it, which has meant a lot. 00:11:57.580 --> 00:12:01.539 We're chasing our first DX right now. We're trying 00:12:01.539 --> 00:12:03.720 our best. We designed an amplifier. We're hoping 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:07.259 to build it soon. That'll help a lot too, but 00:12:07.259 --> 00:12:10.279 we're working towards our DX right now. No contesting 00:12:10.279 --> 00:12:12.460 yet. Again, hopefully the amplifier will help 00:12:12.460 --> 00:12:15.279 with that once we get it designed and built, 00:12:15.360 --> 00:12:19.419 but right now it's a lot of local rag chew and 00:12:19.419 --> 00:12:26.830 chasing that first DX. Antennas are always the 00:12:26.830 --> 00:12:32.409 challenge. I'm looking at moving and getting 00:12:32.409 --> 00:12:36.750 a new shack built with a tower and a beam and 00:12:36.750 --> 00:12:42.490 everything. Even then, the restrictions on property, 00:12:42.649 --> 00:12:45.830 oh my goodness, it's been a nightmare trying 00:12:45.830 --> 00:12:49.809 to find someplace that will allow antennas and 00:12:49.809 --> 00:12:55.080 university campuses. or even worse. So I wish 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:58.580 you luck on that and hopefully you can get that 00:12:58.580 --> 00:13:00.639 worked out. And I know you're working with the 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:05.200 university to actually make the club an official 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:09.720 university club. That's our hope. It's been going 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:15.220 really well so far. That what started is a friendly 00:13:15.220 --> 00:13:17.100 thing in our fraternity. We really do want to 00:13:17.100 --> 00:13:19.679 grow it because we see this excellent opportunity 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:23.379 to get out there. help the community, volunteer, 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:27.019 especially as tornado season comes about in Oklahoma. 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:29.919 We'd really like to see some fellas get their 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:33.179 technician, get their general, and help us out 00:13:33.179 --> 00:13:37.039 in the field. Well, tell us a little bit about 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:40.940 the equipment that you use and this five -minute 00:13:40.940 --> 00:13:46.179 antenna. Let's hear how you can put that antenna 00:13:46.179 --> 00:13:52.129 up so fast. be able to use that, and I understand 00:13:52.129 --> 00:13:58.750 Dad helped out with a rig. He did. So our base 00:13:58.750 --> 00:14:07.450 rig is a Kenwood TS940. That's all modes, all 00:14:07.450 --> 00:14:12.129 HF bands, and a big old beefy trans match that 00:14:12.129 --> 00:14:17.659 sits on top of it. So that's a... much more set 00:14:17.659 --> 00:14:20.120 up than our antenna can handle. The antenna itself 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:24.080 is definitely a challenge. We're working with 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:27.600 a lot of restrictions in terms of structures 00:14:27.600 --> 00:14:33.720 and maximum permissible exposure to different 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:38.759 radio waves and whatnot. Our shack has one window 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:41.759 that points out right at a well -trafficked sidewalk, 00:14:41.860 --> 00:14:46.830 so we're pretty restricted in that space. We 00:14:46.830 --> 00:14:50.169 can't send a lot of power out. We don't have 00:14:50.169 --> 00:14:52.629 a lot of space to build out. So we just built 00:14:52.629 --> 00:14:55.850 straight up. We've got a big old PVC tower. It 00:14:55.850 --> 00:14:59.009 was the thickest, strongest PVC that a hundred 00:14:59.009 --> 00:15:03.210 bucks could buy at a hardware store. And we taped 00:15:03.210 --> 00:15:05.509 a die pull to it. That's what we're running right 00:15:05.509 --> 00:15:16.529 now. It's called improvise. So you just... put 00:15:16.529 --> 00:15:21.429 the PVC tower together and then tape it up, or 00:15:21.429 --> 00:15:24.610 can you leave part of it together, or how do 00:15:24.610 --> 00:15:28.309 you do that? Well, so it's about 10 pieces of 00:15:28.309 --> 00:15:30.570 PVC. They all fit behind my bed when they're 00:15:30.570 --> 00:15:36.690 not in use. And we have a hand -sketched plan 00:15:36.690 --> 00:15:41.190 for how it all goes together. It's pretty structurally 00:15:41.190 --> 00:15:43.129 sound. We had the mechanical engineers of the 00:15:43.129 --> 00:15:46.360 club help us out with it, but... It's about 20 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:51.320 meters tall and holds a 40 meter dipole on top. 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:54.879 We really did design it so that we could assemble 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:59.379 it in my room, place it outside through the window, 00:15:59.539 --> 00:16:02.820 and then have it telescope upwards. That way, 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:05.139 if we get any complaints, if we need to take 00:16:05.139 --> 00:16:08.120 it down real quickly for whatever reason, that's 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:10.399 possible to do. It takes about five minutes. 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:15.840 It's our five minute antenna. All right, that 00:16:15.840 --> 00:16:20.360 sounds like a good plan now I noticed that on 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:23.519 this reddit post and excuse me just a second 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:30.019 Okay, I noticed on this reddit post That we were 00:16:30.019 --> 00:16:32.179 looking at and actually I sent the picture out 00:16:32.179 --> 00:16:37.539 on social media there of the the station Someone 00:16:37.539 --> 00:16:41.320 had asked the question. So we got it. We got 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:45.070 to ask it so What do the sorority girls think 00:16:45.070 --> 00:16:49.549 about the station? We've gotten some puzzled 00:16:49.549 --> 00:16:51.590 stairs especially when we're setting up and taking 00:16:51.590 --> 00:16:54.889 down the tower our window points right at sorority 00:16:54.889 --> 00:16:58.450 row So whenever we put it up, it's no secret. 00:16:58.470 --> 00:17:03.350 Everyone can see it Aside from the puzzled stairs 00:17:03.350 --> 00:17:06.690 The benefit of going to a smaller school is that 00:17:06.690 --> 00:17:09.069 you know between the five people who serve as 00:17:09.069 --> 00:17:11.670 the core of the club We know most of the sorority 00:17:11.670 --> 00:17:16.269 girls on a friendly basis. We've certainly not 00:17:16.269 --> 00:17:18.490 gotten any rude comments, anything like that. 00:17:19.589 --> 00:17:22.390 They're very, very engaging, very interested 00:17:22.390 --> 00:17:24.769 in what we're doing. We have friendly conversations 00:17:24.769 --> 00:17:28.869 about our tower and our station, what we're doing, 00:17:28.930 --> 00:17:32.150 but really the main struggle is justifying it 00:17:32.150 --> 00:17:35.269 to our girlfriends. I think part of the antenna 00:17:35.269 --> 00:17:36.730 sleeps in the bed with me just because that's 00:17:36.730 --> 00:17:44.789 how it all fits. So, most of our time is actually 00:17:44.789 --> 00:17:48.049 spent justifying our hobby, our passion to our 00:17:48.049 --> 00:17:51.349 girlfriends. None of them are sorority members. 00:17:54.190 --> 00:17:57.250 They're just really good people who like to hang 00:17:57.250 --> 00:17:59.910 out and we try to get them on the air too as 00:17:59.910 --> 00:18:02.069 third -party traffic when we can. I had my girlfriend 00:18:02.069 --> 00:18:04.750 calling to her Peter once. Not her thing, unfortunately, 00:18:04.829 --> 00:18:07.970 but they're really supportive. They're good to 00:18:07.970 --> 00:18:11.849 us, and so are the sorority girls. Well, that's 00:18:11.849 --> 00:18:16.069 always good to have some support. Who knows? 00:18:16.589 --> 00:18:19.829 Maybe you'll convince some of them to get into 00:18:19.829 --> 00:18:23.250 ham radio. So tell me how you got into ham radio. 00:18:24.730 --> 00:18:27.710 Well, my dad was instrumental in that. As you 00:18:27.710 --> 00:18:29.849 mentioned, he had his advanced license when he 00:18:29.849 --> 00:18:35.089 was my age. Back when he was my age, unfortunately, 00:18:35.230 --> 00:18:38.789 the technology was a little bit different. His 00:18:38.789 --> 00:18:44.349 transceiver was a big old tube number. Unfortunately, 00:18:44.369 --> 00:18:46.769 just not feasible to take to college with him. 00:18:47.029 --> 00:18:50.769 So he let his license expire as he was in college. 00:18:52.130 --> 00:18:53.910 Luckily, he actually ended up picking up the 00:18:53.910 --> 00:18:57.390 electric guitar when he moved away and he started 00:18:57.390 --> 00:19:01.000 taking a... interest in guitar amplifiers and 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:04.099 guitar effects pedals. And that's a passion that 00:19:04.099 --> 00:19:06.200 he's shared with me. We spent a lot of time when 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:09.500 I was young building guitar projects. The first 00:19:09.500 --> 00:19:11.839 thing we ever built together was a tremolo pedal 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:15.920 for him to play his guitar through. And under 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:18.220 his supervision, especially as my skills advanced, 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:21.299 I graduated to building tube amplifiers actually. 00:19:22.900 --> 00:19:26.380 My curiosity for amplifier circuits led to my 00:19:26.380 --> 00:19:29.150 foray into amateur radio. And luckily, unlike 00:19:29.150 --> 00:19:31.089 my dad, I actually was able to take my passion 00:19:31.089 --> 00:19:34.730 to college. You know, as I mentioned earlier, 00:19:34.750 --> 00:19:37.170 I've got that nice solid state rig. It's about 00:19:37.170 --> 00:19:40.190 40 pounds packed real, real nice into my car. 00:19:40.230 --> 00:19:42.509 So I was able to take it to college with me. 00:19:42.589 --> 00:19:45.069 The antenna is still a struggle, but we're doing 00:19:45.069 --> 00:19:47.849 the best we can. And with that smaller rig, we're 00:19:47.849 --> 00:19:52.309 able to keep up in college. Well, I hope you 00:19:52.309 --> 00:19:56.809 can continue to grow and and progress and get 00:19:56.809 --> 00:20:02.910 through some of the red tape and get a more permanent 00:20:02.910 --> 00:20:06.950 arrangement set up. But I think the idea of the 00:20:06.950 --> 00:20:10.210 fraternity having its own station is also pretty 00:20:10.210 --> 00:20:14.869 cool that you guys can just hop on one night 00:20:14.869 --> 00:20:20.109 and kick back and make some contacts. That's 00:20:20.109 --> 00:20:23.329 a pretty cool thing to do and I'm sure that it... 00:20:23.369 --> 00:20:29.849 ties into a lot of what you're studying. Yeah, 00:20:29.849 --> 00:20:33.430 it really does. So we've got three people, three 00:20:33.430 --> 00:20:35.710 people right now that are tied into electrical 00:20:35.710 --> 00:20:38.670 engineering in some way or another. And we have 00:20:38.670 --> 00:20:40.650 fun just coming up with the wackiest antenna 00:20:40.650 --> 00:20:43.009 designs and testing them, seeing how they work, 00:20:43.329 --> 00:20:48.470 benchmarking them, building them in MATLAB. That's 00:20:48.470 --> 00:20:50.269 what we like so much about this hobby. It really 00:20:50.269 --> 00:20:54.589 supports the maker attitude and the idea that 00:20:54.589 --> 00:20:57.150 you can build and create. We love that. We really 00:20:57.150 --> 00:21:00.670 do. As student engineers, that's something that 00:21:00.670 --> 00:21:05.069 we hold in high regard. Well, I think it's good, 00:21:05.289 --> 00:21:07.609 too, that you're doing this together with your 00:21:07.609 --> 00:21:12.289 fraternity, with your colleagues, because I'm 00:21:12.289 --> 00:21:15.779 involved with the... you know, bringing the youth 00:21:15.779 --> 00:21:19.940 on the air camp to the US and one of the big 00:21:19.940 --> 00:21:24.819 fundamental core values of this is that peers 00:21:24.819 --> 00:21:27.619 are teaching peers and I think that's something 00:21:27.619 --> 00:21:31.500 that a lot of times we miss is, you know, we 00:21:31.500 --> 00:21:37.279 can't always, you know, have, you know, an older 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:40.599 person, you know, just show up to a university 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:42.859 and say, hey, how would you like to do ham radio? 00:21:43.309 --> 00:21:47.150 And that's probably not the best approach. And 00:21:47.150 --> 00:21:49.769 I think if you all kind of work together and 00:21:49.769 --> 00:21:54.930 help each other, you said right away you had 00:21:54.930 --> 00:21:57.569 five people that just went and took the test 00:21:57.569 --> 00:22:00.970 with you, just on the spur of the moment. So 00:22:00.970 --> 00:22:04.930 I think building those relationships just fits 00:22:04.930 --> 00:22:08.680 into the whole fraternity thing. And you can 00:22:08.680 --> 00:22:11.220 make even more relationships through ham radio. 00:22:11.400 --> 00:22:14.440 And I think that's a great approach and a lesson 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:18.759 that a lot of people can take away from what 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:22.299 you're doing. So, all right. Well, we're going 00:22:22.299 --> 00:22:24.559 to take a break and then I'll come back with 00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:27.119 Maxwell and we'll take your calls and your tweets 00:22:27.119 --> 00:22:32.640 about fraternity ham radio clubs right after 00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:36.680 this word from ICOM America here on HamTalk Live. 00:22:36.829 --> 00:22:41.890 Get out and be active with ICOM's new IC -705 00:22:41.890 --> 00:22:45.230 and its optional multi -function backpack. 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It's at ham 00:25:28.380 --> 00:25:31.000 talk live on Twitter and if you're listening 00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:35.440 to us on WTWW or on the podcast edition Sorry, 00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:38.559 it's Thursday night right now and we're live, 00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:43.740 so you won't be able to hear us and call in and 00:25:43.740 --> 00:25:49.279 ask questions. So, Maxwell, while we're waiting 00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:52.619 on some calls and tweets, let's talk a little 00:25:52.619 --> 00:25:55.619 bit about getting students more involved in ham 00:25:55.619 --> 00:25:58.359 radio. What are some of your ideas of how you 00:25:58.359 --> 00:26:02.759 can get more students involved? Well, I think 00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:07.640 especially with my generation, 18 to 22 right 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:11.380 now. When they try something new, it's because 00:26:11.380 --> 00:26:14.539 they heard about it from a friend. A lot of social 00:26:14.539 --> 00:26:18.720 media sites have taken off that way. Pretty much 00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:20.920 anything, it's just by word of mouth. And when 00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:24.480 I got into ham radio, I noticed that it was because 00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:26.960 of something my dad shared with me. And when 00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:28.759 I was able to convince the five other guys to 00:26:28.759 --> 00:26:31.720 take the test, it was because I said, hey, let's 00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:35.799 do this. So I think the biggest, most important 00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:39.119 thing is just spreading awareness, especially 00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:44.160 using people our age, ham radio, operators that 00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:47.940 are my age. The best thing you can do is share 00:26:47.940 --> 00:26:51.440 it with your friends. Let them get on, make third 00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:55.039 party contacts. It's really cool and it's something 00:26:55.039 --> 00:26:58.319 to be shared. I definitely think so. And also, 00:26:59.220 --> 00:27:01.500 for everyone that's more... passionate about 00:27:01.500 --> 00:27:05.079 the technical side of the hobby, ask your local 00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:07.680 schools if they're looking for lesson plans because 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:11.720 we've actually been reached out to by different 00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:13.599 organizations and also reached out to quite a 00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:17.140 few organizations for lesson plans and ideas 00:27:17.140 --> 00:27:22.259 for talking about radios and the electromagnetic 00:27:22.259 --> 00:27:24.119 spectrum. That's all stuff that they need to 00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:26.319 teach and this is a great hands -on way to do 00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:31.759 that. Yeah, it's definitely a great way I use 00:27:31.759 --> 00:27:35.140 it in chemistry when we're talking about electromagnetic 00:27:35.140 --> 00:27:39.000 spectrum and that kind of thing and do some demonstrations 00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:42.859 and Well, you know I said something about you 00:27:42.859 --> 00:27:45.000 know, some of the older ones, you know Just showing 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:47.359 up and saying hey, you know, how would you like 00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:52.269 to do ham radio? That's a way that you can be 00:27:52.269 --> 00:27:55.910 older and kind of help mentor is you get the 00:27:55.910 --> 00:28:00.490 stuff ready you get the plans you get the ideas 00:28:00.490 --> 00:28:05.130 there and you know support with the gear and 00:28:05.130 --> 00:28:09.289 the equipment and that kind of thing but also 00:28:09.289 --> 00:28:15.809 you know there's a role in mentoring and helping 00:28:15.809 --> 00:28:19.759 out and Passing things along and you've had an 00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:22.640 experience with that just even on the the local 00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.619 repeater getting your handheld setup Absolutely 00:28:26.619 --> 00:28:30.920 mentors have been a big part of what we do when 00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:34.839 we just got our technician tickets We were pretty 00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:37.839 much clueless. We had the HT's that we bought 00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:43.710 on Amazon Really really pretty much thrown into 00:28:43.710 --> 00:28:46.349 deep water. And as we started figuring out how 00:28:46.349 --> 00:28:48.150 to connect to repeaters, we had a lot of guys 00:28:48.150 --> 00:28:50.349 say, hey, your signal's weak. Are you holding 00:28:50.349 --> 00:28:53.210 your antenna upright? Are you outside? Is it 00:28:53.210 --> 00:28:58.289 line of sight? And hearing those guys be patient 00:28:58.289 --> 00:29:02.130 with us and give us step -by -step explanations 00:29:02.130 --> 00:29:04.670 and troubleshooting as we try and get our signal 00:29:04.670 --> 00:29:07.309 strong, it really means a lot. And it keeps us 00:29:07.309 --> 00:29:11.130 engaged as we get frustrated as we... have our 00:29:11.130 --> 00:29:15.309 equipment fail on us or call CQ with no response, 00:29:15.769 --> 00:29:17.710 hearing those people, you know, give us those 00:29:17.710 --> 00:29:21.210 tips, give us that troubleshooting, that mentorship 00:29:21.210 --> 00:29:23.650 is really what keeps us going and allows us to 00:29:23.650 --> 00:29:28.789 stay engaged in the hobby. And I think you've 00:29:28.789 --> 00:29:31.329 got some in particular you wanted to mention. 00:29:32.890 --> 00:29:36.170 Yeah, absolutely. So a really, really friendly 00:29:36.170 --> 00:29:40.019 guy, Ron, comes on the local repeater and He 00:29:40.019 --> 00:29:42.660 was instrumental in getting me up and running. 00:29:42.900 --> 00:29:46.579 As I was connecting to the repeater and saying 00:29:46.579 --> 00:29:51.019 Whiskey Mike for a Tango Hotel listening, he 00:29:51.019 --> 00:29:53.660 was pretty quick to get on and say, hey man, 00:29:53.779 --> 00:29:56.660 your signal is, it's pretty weak, it's a little 00:29:56.660 --> 00:29:59.299 bit noisy. Are you sure that your antenna is 00:29:59.299 --> 00:30:01.720 pointed up right? And at that time I didn't know 00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:04.720 about polarization, so I was just holding it 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:08.559 kind of lazily in my hand. So I pointed my antenna 00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:12.019 up right pretty much instantly got better reception 00:30:12.019 --> 00:30:18.440 and from his words, better transmit too. So Ron 00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:20.539 especially, but really everyone on that repeater 00:30:20.539 --> 00:30:23.140 has been so friendly and so good about getting 00:30:23.140 --> 00:30:24.960 us on the air and making sure that we're doing 00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:30.400 everything right. Yeah, mentors are always good 00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:36.319 for getting some pointers and getting some help 00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:41.349 and that's a Critical role as well While you 00:30:41.349 --> 00:30:45.650 know a lot of your peers Are working to help 00:30:45.650 --> 00:30:49.089 you know kind of spread the word and get into 00:30:49.089 --> 00:30:54.650 stuff You need those resources And I think that 00:30:54.650 --> 00:31:00.890 may be A bit of a shift in how we do things because 00:31:00.890 --> 00:31:04.980 a lot of times The approach is, hey, I'm here. 00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:07.480 How would you like to do ham radio? How would 00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:10.920 you like to take another test? And that may not 00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:16.279 be the greatest introduction to that. But then, 00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:20.619 when you're interested in it and you're doing 00:31:20.619 --> 00:31:23.019 some things with it, then that's kind of the 00:31:23.019 --> 00:31:26.200 time when some of the experience can step in 00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:28.500 and say, hey, OK, have you tried this? Have you 00:31:28.500 --> 00:31:32.920 tried that? And get some pointers. and get things 00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:37.079 improving and learn from their experience. So 00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.579 it's a bit of a shift in how we do things sometimes, 00:31:41.579 --> 00:31:47.319 but I think it's been effective. Absolutely. 00:31:48.980 --> 00:31:53.000 So my first piece of radio equipment, if you 00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:59.130 will, was a WSPR. another member of our club, 00:31:59.250 --> 00:32:02.549 his first was an SDR, software -defined radio, 00:32:03.109 --> 00:32:05.670 and the fact that you can get those inexpensively, 00:32:05.690 --> 00:32:08.769 and they allow you to experiment with so much 00:32:08.769 --> 00:32:13.410 of what holds true with the HF bands too, antenna 00:32:13.410 --> 00:32:17.529 design and filtering, that's a really great place 00:32:17.529 --> 00:32:21.529 to start, and you can get an SDR online for 20 00:32:21.529 --> 00:32:25.349 bucks and at least get receiving, so that's a 00:32:25.349 --> 00:32:28.460 great option. A great way to get started, hands 00:32:28.460 --> 00:32:34.160 on. If you have a question or comment for Maxwell, 00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:40.279 give us a call right now at 859 -982 -7373 or 00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:44.759 you can tweet us at HamTalk Live on Twitter and 00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:47.279 we'll be here for a few more minutes. So give 00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:55.359 us a call 859 -982 -7373. We mentioned a little 00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:57.519 bit about, you know, you're trying to work with 00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:00.440 the university to try to get the club organized 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:05.000 and I've been through that process before and 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.779 many have and some people may not understand 00:33:07.779 --> 00:33:11.319 some of the process of getting that. So can you 00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:14.599 talk a little bit about how that's gone so far 00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:18.740 and what you have to do to make that a possibility? 00:33:19.929 --> 00:33:22.970 Well, you know surprisingly enough getting the 00:33:22.970 --> 00:33:25.650 club declared an official through the FCC has 00:33:25.650 --> 00:33:28.269 been a lot easier than getting it declared and 00:33:28.269 --> 00:33:33.690 official through the university The FCC requires 00:33:33.690 --> 00:33:38.349 two signatures whereas as I've started asking 00:33:38.349 --> 00:33:41.069 around at the university seeing if there's a 00:33:41.069 --> 00:33:43.529 If there's a greater opportunity for us, there's 00:33:43.529 --> 00:33:46.650 been requirements such as you know finding finding 00:33:46.650 --> 00:33:50.890 a club sponsor That's been a big one, but also 00:33:50.890 --> 00:33:54.049 just finding a place to meet where we can put 00:33:54.049 --> 00:33:58.569 our antenna up, have all our gear, our base transceivers, 00:33:58.750 --> 00:34:01.829 40 pounds. So finding a place where we ideally 00:34:01.829 --> 00:34:04.849 can set up our station without having to lug 00:34:04.849 --> 00:34:09.230 that big thing across campus. Just all of that, 00:34:09.289 --> 00:34:12.389 all the logistics have to come together and it's 00:34:12.389 --> 00:34:14.090 been a struggle, but we're working towards it 00:34:14.090 --> 00:34:19.820 for sure. some professors that are doing some 00:34:19.820 --> 00:34:23.699 RF work already. Yeah, absolutely. So we've got 00:34:23.699 --> 00:34:28.659 an RF class at our school. We've actually got 00:34:28.659 --> 00:34:31.340 one guy, two, enrolled in that right now. Two 00:34:31.340 --> 00:34:33.860 have gone through it. Yep, two of our club members 00:34:33.860 --> 00:34:37.480 have gone through that class. So it seems like 00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:39.380 a great place to start also approaching that 00:34:39.380 --> 00:34:41.760 professor to ask for help with designing those 00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:45.159 antennas that'll work from our dorm room. We've 00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:47.469 got some really good leads. It seems like we're 00:34:47.469 --> 00:34:50.630 on a pretty promising track to getting this official 00:34:50.630 --> 00:34:54.369 or at least supported by the university itself. 00:34:56.949 --> 00:34:59.010 And you know one thing we haven't even mentioned 00:34:59.010 --> 00:35:02.170 your club call sign. So you do have an official 00:35:02.170 --> 00:35:08.070 club call sign for the fraternity. Yes, KI5HSS. 00:35:09.809 --> 00:35:14.650 Okay and where can people find you guys typically? 00:35:15.690 --> 00:35:21.369 And when? Well, so I try and get on every night, 00:35:21.429 --> 00:35:24.730 at least a little bit. I've got my antenna, build 00:35:24.730 --> 00:35:29.110 it, put it out the window. I've been trying real, 00:35:29.110 --> 00:35:31.090 real hard to get those long distance contacts. 00:35:32.829 --> 00:35:35.690 I've been pretty much just going with the QRP 00:35:35.690 --> 00:35:38.949 operation, but to the best of our ability right 00:35:38.949 --> 00:35:43.340 now without an amplifier, calling CQ on... 20, 00:35:43.380 --> 00:35:48.559 40, 80, and seeing what we pull in. Okay, very 00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:55.079 good. Well, listen for these guys and you can 00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:58.760 find them on the air and kick back and get a 00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:03.219 nice little Q -so with the fraternity here at 00:36:03.219 --> 00:36:06.840 the University of Tulsa. So, Maxwell, thank you 00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:09.980 so much for coming on the show and for telling 00:36:09.980 --> 00:36:13.769 us all about you're set up and it's very interesting 00:36:13.769 --> 00:36:16.369 and a lot of people don't know some of the challenges 00:36:16.369 --> 00:36:20.929 of of making that work in college when you have 00:36:20.929 --> 00:36:24.130 all these restrictions and rules that you have 00:36:24.130 --> 00:36:27.550 to to go through and you're getting a good start 00:36:27.550 --> 00:36:30.849 on that early since you're freshmen so you know 00:36:30.849 --> 00:36:33.940 maybe before too long you'll have all those bugs 00:36:33.940 --> 00:36:38.139 worked out and you'll have a more permanent antenna 00:36:38.139 --> 00:36:42.139 and can do even more and we wish you the best. 00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:45.019 Well, it was great to be on with you Neil. Thank 00:36:45.019 --> 00:36:48.260 you for having me. Thank you to everyone who's 00:36:48.260 --> 00:36:52.099 listening. We love to talk about this. We could 00:36:52.099 --> 00:36:55.559 go on for hours. It means a lot to be here and 00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:58.719 sharing our story. All right, and who else do 00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:01.039 you have? You've got some of your fraternity 00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:04.300 brothers and club members in the shack. Who else 00:37:04.300 --> 00:37:06.920 do you have with you tonight? Yeah, right here 00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:11.019 right now. I've got Cameron, Willie, and Cameron 00:37:11.019 --> 00:37:17.420 here with me tonight. Ki5, Hjn, Ki5, Hj0, Ki5, 00:37:17.539 --> 00:37:21.500 Hjq. I'm Hjp. Hjp, sorry. No, sorry, Hjm. You're 00:37:21.500 --> 00:37:24.280 Hjp, I'm Hjm. Right. We have consecutive call 00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:26.239 signs and so it makes things a little bit confusing, 00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:32.480 but yeah. Yeah, I went through that when I grew 00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:37.619 up. I took my class With my dad and and everybody, 00:37:37.780 --> 00:37:40.079 you know kind of passed all at once. We had WB 00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:47.579 9 UK a B C D E G and H we're not sure how that 00:37:47.579 --> 00:37:53.059 one slipped in there, but But somewhere F didn't 00:37:53.059 --> 00:37:56.099 didn't fall into the the list, but yeah that 00:37:56.829 --> 00:38:01.829 That became kind of confusing but three of them 00:38:01.829 --> 00:38:05.369 or four of them actually were in one family so 00:38:05.369 --> 00:38:07.429 it was kind of nice on the QSL card you just 00:38:07.429 --> 00:38:11.989 check the last letter. So that was kind of cool. 00:38:13.190 --> 00:38:16.690 Well great to hear from all of you. Congratulations 00:38:16.690 --> 00:38:21.949 on the efforts and wish you luck and hope to 00:38:21.949 --> 00:38:26.090 hear more from you guys in the years to come. 00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:29.739 Awesome. Thank you very much, Neil. Again, it 00:38:29.739 --> 00:38:32.219 was wonderful to be here chatting with you tonight. 00:38:33.860 --> 00:38:38.440 All right. Well, that is Maxwell Zein's WM4TH. 00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:42.280 And that's going to be a wrap for this week's 00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:45.519 edition of HamTalk Live. Thanks to Maxwell and 00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:48.400 his fraternity crew there and everyone out in 00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:52.199 cyberspace for listening. And I invite you back 00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:55.610 next Thursday night at 9 p .m. Eastern time for 00:38:55.610 --> 00:38:59.369 a list of our upcoming guests. Just go over to 00:38:59.369 --> 00:39:03.170 hamtalklive .com Oh, we do have a comment here. 00:39:03.170 --> 00:39:06.849 I'm sorry Chris A4CB says he was introduced to 00:39:06.849 --> 00:39:10.050 ham radio in eighth grade junior high school 00:39:10.050 --> 00:39:14.510 and had teachers with a License and even had 00:39:14.510 --> 00:39:18.420 a two meter repeater to high school. So But it's 00:39:18.420 --> 00:39:23.340 32 years later now. So that changes. And that's 00:39:23.340 --> 00:39:26.500 another challenge is keeping things going. And 00:39:26.500 --> 00:39:29.079 I run into that at the high school club as well. 00:39:30.579 --> 00:39:33.960 Four years, you have a new group of students. 00:39:34.619 --> 00:39:37.780 So that's always one of the challenges. And that's 00:39:37.780 --> 00:39:41.619 the same at the university. So hopefully these 00:39:41.619 --> 00:39:44.219 guys can get the ball rolling and keep it going. 00:39:44.980 --> 00:39:48.019 Well, I invite you back next Thursday night, 00:39:48.019 --> 00:39:51.119 9 p .m. Eastern Time. Again, go to HamTalkLive 00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:55.000 .com to see the upcoming guests. And also I want 00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:57.559 to remind you that the Young Ham Lends a Hand 00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:01.719 contest is still going on. Carol Perry, WB2MGP, 00:40:01.739 --> 00:40:04.260 is accepting nominations for that. And a young 00:40:04.260 --> 00:40:07.260 ham, age 19 or younger, who has demonstrated 00:40:07.260 --> 00:40:10.800 some basic tenet of service and volunteerism 00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:14.840 can be nominated. It could be... someone who 00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:17.920 helps recruit or mentor other young people, assists 00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:21.199 at local community events, or helps out with 00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:24.920 the elderly or military personnel. All nominations 00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:30.880 go to WB2MGP. That's Whiskey Bravo 2, MikeGolfPapa 00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:34.320 at gmail .com. Before the end of April, the winner 00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:37.000 will be announced at the Dayton Hamvention Youth 00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:41.199 Forum and the prize is $100 for that young ham. 00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:44.780 And if you like the show, HamTalk Live, please 00:40:44.780 --> 00:40:48.219 leave us a review. That helps us out as well. 00:40:48.579 --> 00:40:51.719 So for now, this is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, saying 00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:56.420 7375, and may the good DX be yours.