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Hey, good evening, everyone. It's HamTalk Live

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episode number 204. Virtual club meetings for

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social distancing for recorded live on Thursday,

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March 19th, 2020. I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9

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VPG. Thanks for tuning in to this episode of

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HamTalk Live. Tonight, we're joined by Matt Bonadies,

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KB9YOJ, and we'll take your calls live. here

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in just a few minutes. Last week here on the

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show, Brian Tarasko, KG5HVO and Marty Sulaway,

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NN1C were here to talk about Team Exuberance

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all this social distancing stuff is going on,

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which is what we're talking about tonight. And

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my guest tonight is Matt Bonadies, KB9YOJ. He

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lives in Ellitsville, Indiana and is a wireless

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network engineer. for Indiana University. He

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is the president and founder of the Southern

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Indiana Amateur Radio Association. Matt's interests

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include DX, APRS, PSK 31, Arden Mesh Networks,

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VHF Digital Modes and Rag Chewing. He is the

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proud father of two harmonics and an avid fisherman.

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So Matt, welcome to HamTalk Live. Hi, Neil. Glad

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to be here tonight. Well, this whole social distancing

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thing is something that's created a lot of changes

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and a lot of chaos out there and I think we're

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all sick of hearing about it, but every day there's

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more and more restrictions that are put on everyday

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life and it's important that we find a way to

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Connect with each other without spreading this

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virus and ham radio is one way to do that because

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The virus doesn't go through The ionosphere so

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right so at least that we know of now if that

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happens we're in big trouble but There's some

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ways to kind of connect with each other and still

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have some social interaction without the, you

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know, physical connection. And that's what we're

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going to talk about tonight. And you were one

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of the first. I know there are many others that

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are doing the same thing now. And we'll talk

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about a couple of those here in a little bit,

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but with the Southern Indiana Amateur Radio Association

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or Sierra. You made a call to cancel all club

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activities and all the get togethers and everything.

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And then you came up with an idea of what could

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take the place of some of that. So tell us a

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little bit about that decision to cancel the

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in -person meetings and doing a virtual club

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meeting. Sure. Well, you know, along with everyone,

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we were paying attention to what was going around

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in the world and just trying to keep abreast

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of the situation locally. And I get I get a lot

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of feedback and information updates. through

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work, you know, we're always being prompted from

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emergency coordinators on the situation. And

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I just felt like it was kind of escalating to

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a point where I felt it was necessary to, you

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know, stop the meetings face to face. But, you

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know, I didn't want to just completely end the

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meetings When we have powerful technology like

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like Skype or what we use is zoom and You know

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and try to provide a face -to -face meeting option

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for members and local hams But still give it

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kind of a ham radio twist In Bloomington, you

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know for the last 40 years We've been able to

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utilize a really great VHF Ares repeater that's

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owned and operated by the Monroe County Repeater

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Association. It's really the main frequency that

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everyone uses around here. And my thought was

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to do a Zoom meeting and give people an opportunity

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to see each other, but use the repeater just

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for audio and then kind of format it as a...

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as a net. So this gathering online and on the

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repeater is going to take the place of some of

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the club meeting stuff. And so why, why did you

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go to the video conferencing along with the local

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repeater? Why are you, why are you tying the

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video with the repeater audio. Well, you know,

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it it's kind of a psychological thing as well

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as being able to play with radio at the same

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time. You know, so we'll be able to see each

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other. However, we won't be able to be in the

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same room together, but we'll still be able to

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see each other on the screen, see what we look

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like. Make sure you get that. Almost it's a closer

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connection than just two -way radio. So we'll

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have Just an opportunity to see each other when

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we all feel isolated And you know Sierra in the

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past we've only been a club for just under two

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years now But you know since the beginning of

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our club we've used this method for just regular

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club meetings. We hosted Bob Heil and Ward Silver

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online. It was a lot easier for those guys to

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call in from wherever they were to our meetings

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and then present to us. Nobody had to travel

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anyway, so there was a little bit of cost savings

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in it. Plus, we got a chance to talk to you.

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these really great guys in the hobby, influential

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guys. Plus it kind of dawned on me, I was like,

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hey, this is like fast scan TV, but without the

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video equipment. So put all that together, we'll

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get to do something different. It'll get the

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members a bit of a challenge to navigate the

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technology online by using the video. along with

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throwing in a VHF radio net in the mix. So just

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something a little different. So what gave you

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the idea of doing this? How did that happen?

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Necessity. You know, I didn't want to quit. I

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really didn't want to quit the meetings completely.

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I felt bad about the situation. And I said, you

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know, we can be flexible here. We're going to

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adjust. We're going to write it out and do this

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for the next few months until people do what

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we need to do to take care of the COVID -19 outbreak.

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We're still going to be able to be social. So

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that's the main part is still getting on the

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radio to use our frequencies, which are always

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under threat. and utilize the technology that

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we have at our fingertips. I mean, we can do

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this on our iPhone if we want to. The app is

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free. You just need an internet connection to

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download it and boom, you're on. So, you know,

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the flexibility, doing something useful, helping

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each other out if we can. and just taking our

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mind off of the incredible situation that's unfolding

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right now. The social distance thing is no stranger

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to AM radio operators because a lot of times

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we're talking to people around the world that

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we'll never meet and never see and so the zoom

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video kind of adds that visual component. It's

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not the same as in person, but it does make a

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closer connection. I agree. It should just help

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to do something different. That's really what

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I want to stress. Doing something different,

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something that hasn't been done yet in this area

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at least. And maybe this is how we do ham radio

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meetings from now on. I don't know. We'll see.

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This is kind of an experiment for us right now,

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just to try it for fun, see how we like it, make

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adjustments, and do something a little bit different

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than, you know, rather than the classic ham radio

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meeting. So this is an idea that any ham radio

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club out there, any local club, any, or, or regional

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or national for that matter, uh, can, can do.

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So any, I know the first one is actually tomorrow.

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So, uh, we'll give it a shot tomorrow, but, but

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any advice for, for setting this up, um, and

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having other clubs around the country or the

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world do this? Uh, I guess, um, I guess the advice

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I could give, however I haven't done the net

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yet, is to just give it a shot. See what you

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like about it, what you don't like about it.

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If it's not what the club wants to do, let them

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decide on the format. Or just do it totally online

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or just take your meeting to a VHF repeater.

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It can be a simplex net, you know Meeting in

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person is is part of the fun of ham radio, but

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using the radio is why we do the hobby so You

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know just give it a shot try it out and see if

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See if it works for you if it doesn't Adjust

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and make it so it's fun I think anything that

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we can do to Not feel quite so isolated while

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we're in isolation is a good thing and I think

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that's something that a lot of clubs are gonna

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have to look at and and You know you work at

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Indiana University. I'm a high school teacher.

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We both know that you know, suddenly the education

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world has had to be totally online and online

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education is not something that's new but it's

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new for a majority of full -time teachers and

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professors and it's really upended the way classes

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are held and and there's even discussion you

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know within the ham radio world of of testing

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and will there be remote testing opportunities

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and you know how are we going to deal with that

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and that's a whole other subject for a whole

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other night but there's all of a sudden this

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big switch over to having to do things virtually

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or not at all and like you said it was out of

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necessity. Necessity often inspires all kinds

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of creative solutions, and this is one of them.

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Necessity, trying to be positive about it. I

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keep saying, when life gives you lemons, make

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lemonade. So this is our lemonade moment, I guess,

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for the Ham Radio Club leadership. around the

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country and the world. This is a world issue

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right now. So, you know, and we can take advice

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as ham radio club leaders from educators, you

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know, who have been doing this, maybe more practiced

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at it, how to get groups together to pay attention,

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to be interactive. and try to continue on with

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a club that is all of a sudden virtual. Now,

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Zoom has a is a free membership. You can you

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can sign up for free to host. You do have to

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have a paid account if you have more than three

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people and it goes over 40 minutes. So There

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is that time limit there that is imposed, but

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you can still do a typical net is supposed to

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be 15 minutes. This will probably be longer than

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that because it's more of a meeting than an official

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net, but you can do that if you don't have the...

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the facilities do that. I had hoped to have a

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little more information tonight, but in the news

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line chat today, Karen Eve Murray, our editor,

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Katie to GT was talking about her club at Gray

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South Bay amateur radio club in New York was

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having their club meetings totally on zoom. and

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that ARRL had some kind of provision for affiliated

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clubs to to get the zoom membership so i did

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not have a chance yeah i didn't either and i

00:20:48.740 --> 00:20:51.740
have not had a chance and let me let me totally

00:20:51.740 --> 00:20:54.400
emphasize this before thousands of people start

00:20:54.400 --> 00:20:56.700
calling up a double rl headquarters and saying

00:20:56.700 --> 00:21:00.799
hey can we get the uh i have not had a chance

00:21:00.799 --> 00:21:04.579
to uh get all the details on that and verify

00:21:04.579 --> 00:21:08.670
everything Um, so, you know, you may want to

00:21:08.670 --> 00:21:11.309
be on the lookout for that. Uh, please don't,

00:21:11.309 --> 00:21:14.670
don't flood a double RL with phone calls and

00:21:14.670 --> 00:21:16.890
emails saying, Hey, I heard that you have this.

00:21:17.130 --> 00:21:20.289
Cause I haven't been able to verify it, but,

00:21:20.309 --> 00:21:25.730
um, but, um, she was mentioning that, that, um,

00:21:25.730 --> 00:21:27.990
you know, she thought that, that they had some

00:21:27.990 --> 00:21:32.319
kind of. uh, zoom account that was being able

00:21:32.319 --> 00:21:34.400
to be used for some club meetings or at least

00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:40.579
for theirs. So, um, again, again, please don't

00:21:40.579 --> 00:21:43.299
take that and run with it and go, Oh my gosh,

00:21:43.299 --> 00:21:47.460
this is, this is absolutely true because I have

00:21:47.460 --> 00:21:50.859
not verified that. And normally before I would

00:21:50.859 --> 00:21:53.339
introduce something like that, I would want to

00:21:53.339 --> 00:21:56.339
go out and verify it and make sure that everything

00:21:56.339 --> 00:21:59.450
is there. So please don't, uh, don't take that

00:21:59.450 --> 00:22:01.910
as absolute truth. But if that's the case, I

00:22:01.910 --> 00:22:03.950
mean, that that's another way that you can do

00:22:03.950 --> 00:22:07.349
this and and get past the the 40 minutes, but

00:22:07.349 --> 00:22:11.690
you can get 40 minutes for free. So sure. That

00:22:11.690 --> 00:22:15.289
is that's another option. Yeah. And, you know,

00:22:15.309 --> 00:22:18.470
Zoom is just one option. There's there's other

00:22:18.470 --> 00:22:21.670
there's other ways to you could you could do

00:22:21.670 --> 00:22:26.109
a podcast of a meeting sort of like the old news

00:22:26.109 --> 00:22:30.369
line, which It's still going, but I remember

00:22:30.369 --> 00:22:33.910
you listening to Newsline on repeaters 20 years

00:22:33.910 --> 00:22:36.569
ago. You know, there's ways that you could do

00:22:36.569 --> 00:22:41.829
a pre -recorded meeting. You could just keep

00:22:41.829 --> 00:22:45.829
the meetings to the board, and then the members

00:22:45.829 --> 00:22:50.930
can tune in online or get an email about it.

00:22:50.970 --> 00:22:54.369
So there's many, many ways to do this. This is

00:22:54.369 --> 00:22:58.980
just my... version of trying to adjust as we

00:22:58.980 --> 00:23:00.880
start navigating through what we need to do in

00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:05.140
the next couple months. And I've actually heard

00:23:05.140 --> 00:23:08.500
from a couple of people who have already participated

00:23:08.500 --> 00:23:11.259
in a couple of these kinds of things. I don't

00:23:11.259 --> 00:23:14.579
know that it was quite the way that Sierra is

00:23:14.579 --> 00:23:18.059
doing it. But they said, oh, you know, we didn't,

00:23:18.099 --> 00:23:20.400
we didn't have some of these problems that we

00:23:20.400 --> 00:23:22.920
normally have in our in -person meetings. And

00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:25.500
so they were all on board. They kind of liked

00:23:25.500 --> 00:23:31.099
the, the change up and felt like that they were

00:23:31.099 --> 00:23:34.980
a little more efficient and didn't have some

00:23:34.980 --> 00:23:38.720
of the issues that they normally do. So There

00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:41.400
are pros and cons to this. Obviously, you know,

00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:46.680
it's not going to have the connection that an

00:23:46.680 --> 00:23:50.599
in -person meeting would have, but for the time

00:23:50.599 --> 00:23:55.460
being, you know, when we're supposed to maintain

00:23:55.460 --> 00:24:00.779
our social distance, which by the way, Julie

00:24:00.779 --> 00:24:02.799
and I have decided that that's probably going

00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:07.039
to be the the phrase of the year for 2020 social

00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:11.839
distancing course. Um, but when you have to do

00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:18.259
that, um, it, you know, it creates a way to try

00:24:18.259 --> 00:24:20.680
something new and try something different and,

00:24:21.019 --> 00:24:24.019
and, and give it a shot. And so, you know, I

00:24:24.019 --> 00:24:25.980
would encourage clubs out there to give this

00:24:25.980 --> 00:24:30.160
a try because, um, this is a way that you can

00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:33.119
do it. And the way Sierra is doing it is, you

00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:35.380
know, you're still using ham radio. It's just,

00:24:35.539 --> 00:24:38.440
you're adding a video component to it that maybe,

00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:42.359
you know, not everyone has fast scan television.

00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:48.380
Uh, but more people have a webcam. So, um, it

00:24:48.380 --> 00:24:55.039
will facilitate it. Right. So that's, that's

00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:57.869
some, um, some good stuff. And one other thing

00:24:57.869 --> 00:25:01.569
I want to mention is because of all this virus

00:25:01.569 --> 00:25:07.529
and social distancing stuff, the HamSci workshop

00:25:07.529 --> 00:25:09.650
that was supposed to be at the University of

00:25:09.650 --> 00:25:13.690
Scranton this weekend, in fact tomorrow and Saturday,

00:25:14.950 --> 00:25:18.609
had to be cancelled because of all of this. And

00:25:18.609 --> 00:25:22.710
quickly Nathaniel and his bunch came up with

00:25:22.710 --> 00:25:28.119
a virtual option. So you can register and you

00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:33.319
can actually attend this conference on zoom Tomorrow

00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:37.539
Friday and Saturday and you can you can attend

00:25:37.539 --> 00:25:41.740
virtually to the hamsai conference and that's

00:25:41.740 --> 00:25:45.700
Kind of the cross between ham radio and citizen

00:25:45.700 --> 00:25:49.180
science So there will be a lot of scientific

00:25:49.180 --> 00:25:53.319
talks uh... that involve ham radio so if you

00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:57.200
want to check that out go over to hamsai that's

00:25:57.200 --> 00:26:03.720
h -a -m -s -c -i dot o -r -g hamsai dot org and

00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:06.819
uh... you can register you do need to to register

00:26:06.819 --> 00:26:10.680
still but it's free and uh... you can participate

00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:14.460
in that uh... from the university of scranton

00:26:14.460 --> 00:26:20.579
and dr nathaniel forsell w two n -a -f is hosting

00:26:20.579 --> 00:26:25.500
that. So another way that you can get some interaction

00:26:25.500 --> 00:26:30.740
with some hams while you're cooped up at home.

00:26:31.900 --> 00:26:36.240
So just another way to do that. So what we want

00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:40.200
to do is we want to get your input and your questions

00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:43.509
and comments. So we're going to open up the phone

00:26:43.509 --> 00:26:46.809
lines here in just a couple of minutes at 859

00:26:46.809 --> 00:26:51.750
-982 -7373. We'll check the tweets and the chat

00:26:51.750 --> 00:26:54.529
and all that kind of stuff. And I'll be back

00:26:54.529 --> 00:26:57.569
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00:30:11.700 --> 00:30:15.180
Matt, um, while we're waiting to see if we have

00:30:15.180 --> 00:30:18.000
some, some questions and comments here from the

00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:22.400
peanut gallery, uh, let's let's, uh, Let's talk

00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:25.220
about the role of ham radio clubs a little bit

00:30:25.220 --> 00:30:29.319
and I know that in you know in founding the Southern

00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:33.319
Indiana amateur radio association There were

00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:36.980
some some real goals that you had and and the

00:30:36.980 --> 00:30:45.880
group had to really improve the club member experience

00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:49.900
Can you talk a little bit about? about the role

00:30:49.900 --> 00:30:52.640
of Ham Radio Clubs and ways that we can make

00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:59.259
those better? Sure. Boy. Yeah, well, when we

00:30:59.259 --> 00:31:05.740
were founding the club, we really wanted to try

00:31:05.740 --> 00:31:11.619
to bring back the old hands -on feel to the Ham

00:31:11.619 --> 00:31:16.140
Radio Club, where, you know, there are hands

00:31:16.140 --> 00:31:21.589
-on projects, getting out and putting up antennas,

00:31:22.509 --> 00:31:26.730
the classic sense of the Elmer, the person who

00:31:26.730 --> 00:31:31.809
guides you through the hobby. If you've got questions

00:31:31.809 --> 00:31:35.509
or a specific challenge that we might be able

00:31:35.509 --> 00:31:41.910
to help you out with, to try to be less of a

00:31:41.910 --> 00:31:46.160
social group and more of a techie nerdy group.

00:31:46.660 --> 00:31:49.500
You know, Hammer Radio was the original king

00:31:49.500 --> 00:31:54.960
of hobbies, right? And they were back in the

00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:59.500
early 1900s figuring all this stuff out. I wasn't

00:31:59.500 --> 00:32:02.819
trying to get that nostalgic about it, but we

00:32:02.819 --> 00:32:08.779
really felt that it was important to try to do

00:32:08.779 --> 00:32:16.900
more hands -on activities. And then link them

00:32:16.900 --> 00:32:22.000
in with all the newer stuff today like Raspberry

00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:28.039
Pis, lots of computer programming and newer applications

00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:34.019
that are online or something that you wouldn't

00:32:34.019 --> 00:32:40.960
have seen 30 years ago. And there's ARIs and

00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:45.670
emergency communications as well. And then, you

00:32:45.670 --> 00:32:49.109
know, bringing in computer networking along with

00:32:49.109 --> 00:32:52.109
some of the interests that I have. Of course,

00:32:52.150 --> 00:32:55.329
I'm a, you know, my profession is networking.

00:32:56.569 --> 00:32:59.950
But, you know, with one of the things that really

00:32:59.950 --> 00:33:03.329
kind of got me excited was Arden and mesh networking

00:33:03.329 --> 00:33:06.630
and being able to bring computer applications

00:33:06.630 --> 00:33:11.650
to a network that's on ham radio allocations.

00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:16.279
and the 2 .4 gigahertz band that we can just

00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:20.720
play with and have fun with. So that was one

00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:25.299
of the main goals. And then how do we attract

00:33:25.299 --> 00:33:30.960
younger members? And we're still trying to figure

00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:35.859
that stuff out. Like I say to the guys, well,

00:33:35.859 --> 00:33:39.279
we're still new. We're a new club. We're only

00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:41.900
almost two years old. And we had a lot of lofty

00:33:41.900 --> 00:33:44.839
goals. We've got a pretty long list and I think

00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:49.099
we're doing pretty good. We started out with

00:33:49.099 --> 00:33:54.839
Field Day. That was our first official kind of

00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:59.440
club get together in 2018. Yeah. And boy, it

00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:01.779
was a lot of fun and we just all had a great

00:34:01.779 --> 00:34:08.110
time. So, you know, to try to bring the all the

00:34:08.110 --> 00:34:11.030
activities together with getting people together

00:34:11.030 --> 00:34:17.050
who are techie and nerdy rather than just You

00:34:17.050 --> 00:34:19.409
know cooking out on the grill or whatever and

00:34:19.409 --> 00:34:21.230
all that stuff has its place You know, we like

00:34:21.230 --> 00:34:23.309
to do that too. We like to be social too, but

00:34:23.309 --> 00:34:26.889
we wanted to be more technical than anything

00:34:26.889 --> 00:34:31.849
Yeah, I think that you know, there's a competitive

00:34:31.849 --> 00:34:35.920
aspect and I know Um, you know, I'll get slammed

00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:40.019
for saying it's not a contest. Um, but you know,

00:34:40.099 --> 00:34:42.760
there is a competitive nature to it just because

00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:46.380
there's a score. And so, um, you know, making

00:34:46.380 --> 00:34:50.139
sure that, you know, the technical side is functioning

00:34:50.139 --> 00:34:54.239
and working well and, and that you're able to,

00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:57.179
you know, try to run the score up a little bit,

00:34:57.179 --> 00:35:01.099
you know, is a good option there. It definitely

00:35:01.099 --> 00:35:05.119
is. is a bit of an open house and a social thing

00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:11.119
as the good folks at ARRL will tell you and we

00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:14.820
are planning by the way our annual field day

00:35:14.820 --> 00:35:19.860
question and answer session with Paul Bork and

00:35:19.860 --> 00:35:23.940
the crew at ARRL. It's going to be a week earlier

00:35:23.940 --> 00:35:28.360
this year because we have something else planned

00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:31.699
for the Thursday before field day, hopefully,

00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:36.559
if the virus thing settles down. But we will

00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:38.960
have that here on HamTalk Live so you can ask

00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:43.579
your questions about it. But, you know, it was

00:35:43.579 --> 00:35:50.239
a chance to emphasize a little more about you

00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:52.780
know the technical side of things and putting

00:35:52.780 --> 00:35:56.059
those antennas up in the event of an emergency

00:35:56.059 --> 00:35:59.139
and and how to get them not interfering with

00:35:59.139 --> 00:36:03.199
each other and and how you can link the the logging

00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:05.599
computers together so that you can communicate

00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:10.699
between the different stations and all of those

00:36:10.699 --> 00:36:15.440
things. It was a different take on that and it

00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:19.440
was also a shared thing with the local school

00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:23.780
radio clubs and just turned out to be a great

00:36:23.780 --> 00:36:26.739
event. Well, if you have a question or a comment,

00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:32.079
give us a call at 859 -982 -7373. We do have

00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:35.079
a tweet. You can tweet us as well. It's at HamTalk

00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:41.659
Live on Twitter. And Jacob KG7EQN has been a

00:36:41.659 --> 00:36:45.199
frequent tweeter of late and he has some questions

00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:49.519
for you, Matt. He says, have your meeting times

00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:54.380
changed? How did you determine virtual meetings?

00:36:55.619 --> 00:36:59.659
Are you using the existing in -person time that

00:36:59.659 --> 00:37:01.980
you would normally have, you know, for your meeting

00:37:01.980 --> 00:37:06.320
time? And wondered that with more people working

00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:10.940
from home, would it be better to change the time

00:37:10.940 --> 00:37:14.380
up a little bit? So can you address Jacob here?

00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:21.460
Yeah. Okay, Jacob. Thanks for the question. You

00:37:21.460 --> 00:37:25.760
know normally we we would meet the third Friday

00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:33.219
in person at 6 p .m. Right after work and I got

00:37:33.219 --> 00:37:35.360
to thinking about that. I'm like, you know, we're

00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:38.559
all gonna be at home relaxing It's probably a

00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:41.300
little bit better to push it out a couple more

00:37:41.300 --> 00:37:44.480
hours. So yeah, we did I did change the time

00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:49.079
to 8 o 'clock in the evening when everybody's

00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:52.880
relaxed and maybe done with dinner and got off

00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:57.659
the air with another scheduled QSO or something.

00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:04.219
So we did change the meeting times. It was more

00:38:04.219 --> 00:38:06.840
my decision than anyone else's. I just thought

00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:10.000
8 o 'clock was a better time to do an evening

00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:14.130
net. And you know the other nets in our local

00:38:14.130 --> 00:38:18.429
area here they they they go Anywhere from 7 to

00:38:18.429 --> 00:38:20.849
8 o 'clock in the evening when we do them here

00:38:20.849 --> 00:38:23.590
So it it's about the same time for other nets.

00:38:23.889 --> 00:38:27.650
So, you know I'll trying to keep trying to gather

00:38:27.650 --> 00:38:29.369
other people's attention when they might be on

00:38:29.369 --> 00:38:34.250
the air and You know after dinner, so I Hope

00:38:34.250 --> 00:38:37.230
that answers your question. Yeah, so, you know,

00:38:37.230 --> 00:38:40.559
I'm sure there's advantages to keeping it at

00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:43.699
the same time to keep people remembering you

00:38:43.699 --> 00:38:47.340
know and on the on the schedule but you know

00:38:47.340 --> 00:38:51.340
I do think you know that that later is probably

00:38:51.340 --> 00:38:57.320
better you know given the circumstances so I

00:38:57.320 --> 00:38:59.280
think that's just something you may have to pull

00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:03.900
your your members and pull your officers and

00:39:03.900 --> 00:39:07.519
see what you think would work and And part of

00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:11.039
this is adjusting and trying something new and,

00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:14.340
and, and, you know, make some adjustments, um,

00:39:14.699 --> 00:39:17.800
to the norm. Cause, uh, we are definitely not

00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:22.420
in the norm right now. I've got, uh, two or three,

00:39:22.420 --> 00:39:25.880
uh, major events that are, that are hanging by

00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:28.099
a thread right now, because we don't know if

00:39:28.099 --> 00:39:30.440
we're going to be able to have those in May and

00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:37.610
in June. And it's, it's scary to be quite honest.

00:39:38.710 --> 00:39:44.010
There's some major stuff going on and Hamvention

00:39:44.010 --> 00:39:47.269
just, you know, announced this week finally that,

00:39:47.269 --> 00:39:50.170
that they're not going to be able to meet. And,

00:39:50.170 --> 00:39:53.269
and that's, you know, that's something I've looked

00:39:53.269 --> 00:39:58.190
forward to and attended for. Oh my goodness 25

00:39:58.190 --> 00:40:01.010
years straight now, I think and probably 30 or

00:40:01.010 --> 00:40:05.250
35 total and and you know It's it's a shame because

00:40:05.250 --> 00:40:08.190
that's where you you get to see a lot of the

00:40:08.190 --> 00:40:12.329
people that you talk to and work with In ham

00:40:12.329 --> 00:40:15.130
radio and it's not going to be there and and

00:40:15.130 --> 00:40:17.349
some people have mentioned, you know Maybe we

00:40:17.349 --> 00:40:21.010
ought to you know, get Dayton the Dayton bunch,

00:40:21.010 --> 00:40:27.820
you know the idea of doing these virtual things

00:40:27.820 --> 00:40:30.280
some of the forums and that kind of thing that

00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:34.719
we could we could still do that weekend or whenever

00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:41.159
you know To kind of get people together Yeah,

00:40:41.179 --> 00:40:47.219
and you know with the role of eBay and other

00:40:47.219 --> 00:40:50.460
the sites that allow you to sell things online,

00:40:50.460 --> 00:40:55.309
maybe they could Maybe they could spin up a special

00:40:55.309 --> 00:41:00.789
hamvention site for all the people that like

00:41:00.789 --> 00:41:04.469
to scrounge around in the piles of stuff outside.

00:41:07.650 --> 00:41:12.190
There's got to be a way to do it. The time is

00:41:12.190 --> 00:41:15.550
now to think about what we can do to keep going,

00:41:17.110 --> 00:41:22.679
but yet still stay safe. Yeah, and Troy w9kvr

00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.420
says for the first time I didn't have a track

00:41:25.420 --> 00:41:31.719
meet that weekend and Yeah, Troy we're gonna

00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:35.119
get you there one of these days I'm telling you

00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:37.559
well eight five nine nine eight two seven three

00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:40.579
seven three is the number go ahead Matt I I was

00:41:40.579 --> 00:41:43.019
just gonna mention I had the same sort of experience

00:41:43.019 --> 00:41:47.260
with a cancellation I was scheduled to go to

00:41:47.260 --> 00:41:49.559
the largest one of the largest international

00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:53.320
wireless network engineer conventions In Las

00:41:53.320 --> 00:41:56.480
Vegas at the end of next week, and I've been

00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:59.159
wanting to go ever since I started wireless engineering

00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:02.000
It's been like seven years and I had I finally

00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:06.219
had the opportunity and then I got canceled Yeah

00:42:06.219 --> 00:42:14.530
So maybe maybe next year Lot up in the air right

00:42:14.530 --> 00:42:19.449
now, and I heard, you know, being the chemist,

00:42:20.409 --> 00:42:24.389
as soon as I heard about chloroquine today, I

00:42:24.389 --> 00:42:29.530
was like, oh, I know that. That could work. So

00:42:29.530 --> 00:42:32.989
I'm holding out some hope that maybe that's going

00:42:32.989 --> 00:42:36.860
to be a big game changer. we will see before

00:42:36.860 --> 00:42:40.559
too long but that could could turn things around

00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:44.539
here so hopefully this this won't keep going

00:42:44.539 --> 00:42:51.460
on and on so 859 -982 -7373 we're gonna make

00:42:51.460 --> 00:42:54.880
this the final call so if you want to give us

00:42:54.880 --> 00:43:01.440
a call now is the time 859 -982 -7373 let me

00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:07.940
check the tweet machine here again and see if

00:43:07.940 --> 00:43:12.639
we have anything else and and I Guess we'll go

00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.320
ahead and go through some of these and Matt's

00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:18.860
probably already groaning that When I was when

00:43:18.860 --> 00:43:21.000
I was on Twitter a while ago getting ready for

00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:26.650
the show. I saw one of the the trending Hashtags

00:43:26.650 --> 00:43:30.789
on Twitter was about social distancing and it

00:43:30.789 --> 00:43:35.369
was with social distancing pickup lines. So here's

00:43:35.369 --> 00:43:39.190
your, here's your social distancing humor for

00:43:39.190 --> 00:43:42.070
the day. If you're tired about hearing about

00:43:42.070 --> 00:43:46.380
all the. closures and cancellations and everything.

00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:49.900
Maybe this will bring a smile to you. So here's

00:43:49.900 --> 00:43:54.199
some social distancing pickup lines I saw. I

00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:57.739
wash my hands even when there's no pandemic.

00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:07.079
That might work. Baby, do you need toilet paper?

00:44:07.139 --> 00:44:16.780
Because I can be your Prince Charmin. Want to

00:44:16.780 --> 00:44:23.559
make plans we have to cancel? You smell so good,

00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:29.820
is that Purell you're wearing? Alright, I want

00:44:29.820 --> 00:44:33.460
one more. Without you in my life is as empty

00:44:33.460 --> 00:44:36.599
as the toilet paper shelf at the supermarket.

00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:45.380
There you go, social distancing. Pick up lines.

00:44:45.380 --> 00:44:48.280
I'm not sure those will work on the local repeater

00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:52.320
though. Yeah. Maybe we'll probably not. Yeah.

00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:54.960
We won't get those on the air. We'll keep those

00:44:54.960 --> 00:45:00.059
over here on the internet and then WTWW. So well,

00:45:00.219 --> 00:45:02.719
Matt, thank you so much for coming on and talking

00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:05.179
about this because I'm sure there's a lot of

00:45:05.179 --> 00:45:11.090
clubs out there that really, uh, you know, they've

00:45:11.090 --> 00:45:15.150
had to suddenly cancel everything and, and really

00:45:15.150 --> 00:45:19.329
looking for a way to keep their members connected

00:45:19.329 --> 00:45:24.130
and, and offering some, some things about radio.

00:45:24.530 --> 00:45:29.130
And again, radio, you know, is, is, um, social

00:45:29.130 --> 00:45:36.250
distancing, um, 24 seven. And it's a way to connect

00:45:36.250 --> 00:45:40.519
people and Without the risk and so i thank you

00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:42.559
for coming on and talking about it and sharing

00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:45.579
a problem and good luck with with the net tomorrow

00:45:45.579 --> 00:45:49.480
night yeah thank you and will keep you up to

00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:54.559
date. Okay well thank you so much that is a wrap.

00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:58.179
for this week's edition of HamTalk Live. I'd

00:45:58.179 --> 00:46:02.019
like to thank my guest, Matt Bonadies, KB9YOJ

00:46:02.019 --> 00:46:04.699
from the Southern Indiana Amateur Radio Association,

00:46:05.179 --> 00:46:07.739
and everybody out there in cyberspace for listening

00:46:07.739 --> 00:46:11.099
and typing in and invite you back next Thursday

00:46:11.099 --> 00:46:14.320
night, 9 p .m. Eastern Time. We'll still be here,

00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:18.039
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00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:22.530
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00:46:22.590 --> 00:46:25.030
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00:46:25.489 --> 00:46:28.429
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00:46:28.429 --> 00:46:31.769
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00:46:31.769 --> 00:46:35.250
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00:46:35.250 --> 00:46:37.909
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00:46:38.050 --> 00:46:42.969
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00:46:42.969 --> 00:47:01.719
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