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Good evening, everyone. It's time for another

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HamTalk Live. It's episode number 211, Hurricane

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Prep Week, recorded live on Thursday, May 7th,

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2020. I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG. Thanks

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for tuning in to this episode of HamTalk Live.

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Tonight, we're joined by Bobby Graves, KB5HAV.

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Julio Ripal, WD4R, Rob Macedo, KD1CY, and Lloyd

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Colston, KC5FM. And we'll take your calls live

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in just a few minutes. Last week, Tim Duffy,

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K3LR, was here to talk about Contest University

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Online. And also the Hamvention QSo party taking

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place next week So if you missed the show you

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can listen anytime at HamTalkLive .com or your

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favorite podcast app or on YouTube or you can

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catch the rebroadcast on WTWW 5085 a .m. Saturday

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evenings at about 630 p .m. Eastern Time Also,

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I want to give a shout out here. Congratulations

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to Tyler Wilbanks, N7 TMW. He graduated from

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Pearl River Community College, and that's in

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computer networking, and he was the original

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Hammy, the Hammy mascot at Dayton a few years

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ago, and we started doing that, and the son of

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Don Wilbanks, AE5DW. So, congratulations to Tyler.

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And he's going to be looking for an IT job pretty

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soon here. So we'll get back to the Skywarn stuff

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here. We'll get your questions ready to go. If

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you're listening to us live on Thursday night,

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you can give us a call during the interview segment.

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I'll go ahead and give you the number so you

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can have it ready to go. But we'll talk to all

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of these guys first. The number is 859. You can

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also tweet us at HamTalkLive on Twitter and if

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you're on Spreaker you can type in the comments

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like I've got some catching up to do with that

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already. So looks like we've got a got a crowd

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check them out Tonight we have some Skywarn stuff

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to talk about and specifically hurricanes because

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that season is is upon us here soon, so we have

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our our usual cast of Skywarn folks and a newbie

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tonight. So Bobby Graves, KB5HAV, is the net

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manager for the Hurricane Watch Net. He's been

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in that position since 2013 and he's in Brandon,

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Mississippi. Our new guest is Julio Reiphal,

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WD4R, the assistant coordinator for WX4NHC. That's

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the National Hurricane Center amateur radio station.

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And he is in Miami, Florida. Rob Macedo, KD1CY,

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is the Director of Operations for the Voice over

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IP, or VoIP, Hurricane Net. Since 2004, he's

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also been involved with the VoIP SkyWarn and

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Hurricane Net that supports the National Hurricane

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Center station, WX4NHC. And Rob is in New Bedford,

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Massachusetts. And finally, Lloyd Colston, KC5FM,

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is the public information officer for the Voip

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Hurricane Net, and he's been a net control for

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that net since 2004, and he is in Newkirk, Oklahoma.

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So, gentlemen, welcome back to the show, and

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Julio, welcome to the show for the first time.

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All right, thank you very much, Neil. Well, we've

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got four of you here, so So, you're each going

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to get a little piece of this here at the beginning,

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and we're going to start off with Lloyd, who

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actually reminded me that it was Hurricane Preparedness

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Week and all that kind of stuff. And so, Lloyd,

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we want you to talk a little bit about Hurricane

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Preparedness Week and Weather Observer Day was

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on Monday, so let's talk a little bit about that

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and what people should do to be prepared. for

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a hurricane. Well, first, thanks for having me

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on the program tonight. It is important to be

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prepared for hurricanes and all weather events,

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be they flood, flash flood, tornadoes, winter

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storm, you name it, need to be prepared for.

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I want to thank all the volunteers. for all the

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Skywarn programs across the United States and

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Canada, the United Kingdom has Skywarn, Denmark,

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Germany has Skywarn, so thanks all the weather

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observers. Their day was Monday, Weather Observer's

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Day, and Skywarn is one of the premier weather

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observing programs for the National Weather Service

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in the United States. Why is it important that

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we have this? Because radar doesn't see the ground

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level in New Kirk, Oklahoma. It's only going

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to see about 2 ,000 feet up in the sky. And there's

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a lot that can happen between 2 ,000 feet in

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the ground. That's why you need to have spotters

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on the ground, spotters on the coast. trained

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by the National Weather Service to give those

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reports to the local weather forecast office

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and the National Hurricane Center. So thank you

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ladies and gentlemen for being part of Sky 1.

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All right and now you know here in here in Bloomington

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Indiana I'm not too worried about hurricanes

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but Those of you who are on the coastlines, which

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most of you are, have to worry about these coming

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up. So Lloyd, do you have anything that we just

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need to make sure that spotters are aware of

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in these kinds of things, or even in just localized

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flooding? Well, hurricanes are a major event.

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especially in metropolitan areas and low -lying

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areas because not only do hurricanes produce

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the winds that come with hurricanes, they also

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produce the flooding that comes with hurricanes.

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They also generate tornadoes that come with hurricanes.

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And so there's a plethora of weather events all

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going on at the same time with hurricanes. So

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the National Weather Service and the National

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Hurricane Center need ground truth intelligence

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supplied by train spotters. in the field that

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will give the people that have the buttons that

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they can push to issue the warnings for the general

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population. They need that information. And Julio

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will tell you that they rely on a number of communication

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streams, including Hurricane WatchNet, including

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the national SkyWarn VOIP WeatherNet. So there's

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A lot of ground truth intelligence that can be

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attracted, even automatic packet reporting system,

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we monitor that for where's the power still on

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in a landfalling hurricane. I never thought about

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that, but that would definitely give you some

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data to go from. Well, let's switch over to Julio,

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actually, and this is the 40th anniversary. the

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amateur radio station at the National Hurricane

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Center and the call sign now is WX4NHC and you

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helped set this station up so tell us a little

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bit about the station and the anniversary celebration

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that's going on this year or lack thereof as

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it may be. All right thank you very much Neil

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and good evening evening everybody from Miami

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and I'm Julio a Whiskey Delta for Romeo And we

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started our station at the Hurricane Center WX4NHC

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in 1980. Welcome aboard by Dr. Neil Frank, who

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was the director at the time, because he wanted

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HAMS to be able to talk to the Caribbean. Because

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at that time, in 1980, every time the weather

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got bad, they lost all communications to all

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the Caribbean islands, and we were the only thing

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left. Standing and talking to each other and

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our first hurricane and my first experience there

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to summer of 1980 was Hurricane Allen which hit

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st. Lucia And we were there for three weeks straight

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24 hours a day as Hurricane Allen tracked through

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st. Lucia destroyed that island and then eventually

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hit Brownsville, Texas Believe it or not. That

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was an incredible experience Luckily, I was a

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student at UM across the street So I would just

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walk across the street from my dormitory with

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a Yezu FT -101 in a cardboard box and a wire

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antenna. And that's how our humble beginning

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started. Now we have a super duper station with

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some of the latest Yezu equipment. We have a

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Yezu FT -DX1200, another couple Yezus, and an

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amplifier, and seven antennas on the roof. And

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we have everything. that you can imagine as far

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as digital modes and APRS and VOIP and IRLP and

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so forth and so on. So we're very lucky about

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that. Right now we're currently around 16 operators

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that are 12 trained and vetted and security checked

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to work inside the Hurricane Center. We've worked

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over a hundred hurricanes since then. And surface

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reports are incredibly important. They fill in

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all the gaps between what we get from the satellites,

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radar, and air reconnaissance. And so many times

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that's affected their forecast. And I'll just

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give you one of the latest examples was Hurricane

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Dorian last year when it went and sat over the

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Abacos in the Bahamas. And we had one hand that

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was able to stay on board with us until landfall.

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That was Chris C6AID. Chris Puritt in Hope Town,

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Elbow Key, and the only information that we were

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getting was through him. Everything else was

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out completely. And you know that hurricane was

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a cat five hurricane, stayed over them for more

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than a day. And I remember talking with Chris

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and I said, what are you doing, Chris? You know,

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he owns some sailboat in Boat charter business

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there and he says we've got everyone off their

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sailboats onto the island about 300 people They're

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all sheltering in private homes and we have several

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in my home that and I said Chris I said, what's

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what's the elevation of your house? He said about

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15 feet above sea level. I said well storm surge

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is 15 to 20 feet plus waves and His last report

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was the winds were blowing over 100 miles per

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hour and the trees are falling And we didn't

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hear anything back for days from him. And we

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were so worried because we saw some of the pictures

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coming back of the island flattened. And Chris

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and his wife Jill survived, thank God. But one

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of the last reports we got was hometown is gone.

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And those are the reports that fill in and they

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give it a human aspect instead of all the technical

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data of the barren pressure and the winds, et

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cetera, et cetera. Gives it that human connection.

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And a lot of the forecasters love that because

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it acknowledges what they predicted, and then

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the people and the public can relate to it. You

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tell someone that the Barabek Depresure is 923

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millibars, they're not going to understand the

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beans about that. But when they say someone on

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the island saw three houses just south of him

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move from their foundation or lying in the middle

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of the street, now they can picture what's going

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on over there. So that that's a quickie from

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me Neil over now well said and You know having

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that the eyes on the ground is always you know

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kind of the forefront of Skywarn and and You've

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had 40 years of this, but you know I guess the

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anniversary celebration was was kind of cut short

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Yeah We had a lot of plans for the National Hurricane

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Conference in Orlando, and that was canceled

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because of the coronavirus pandemic. We're in

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talks right now about doing some kind of webinar,

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and we're trying to put together our amateur

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radio workshop, which we've done before for the

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ARRL, and try to get something going maybe by

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the end of this month. But the plans are still

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preliminary. Okay, very good. Well, we'd be listening

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for that. Let's go over to Bobby. Now, Bobby,

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you're the net manager for the Hurricane Watch

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Net, and you've got a big anniversary this year.

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So, tell us a little bit about that. Well, first

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off, Neil, thanks for having me on again this

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year. It's always a pleasure. Yeah, Hurricane

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WatchNet has been around for 55 years. It was

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originally founded by Jerry Murphy, K -A -Y -U

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-W, who's still with us after all these years.

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He still lives in the Cleveland, Ohio area. And,

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of course, our net was founded during Hurricane

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Betsy on Labor Day weekend back in 1965. And,

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you know, who would have thought after 55 years

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Hurricane WatchNet would still be around? We're

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looking at doing some type of on -air celebration

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like we did for our 50th anniversary back in

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2015. We haven't ironed out the details just

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yet, but we're still looking at doing something

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like that. Like Julio said, we was trying to

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maybe even do something at the National Hurricane

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Conference, but COVID -19 got in the way, so

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we know what all happened there. But still, you

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think, well, you know, we're amateur radio now.

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Why, after 55 years, are we still relevant? I

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mean, when you look at all the fancy technology

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that's come along over the past 55 years, like

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the new high definition satellite imagery, which

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is absolutely awesome, giving us fantastic pictures.

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We've got the Doppler radar that's constantly

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improving with the satellite, with the software

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they keep using. But like Lloyd said, you know,

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It's looking up in the atmosphere. It's not telling

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us what's happening on the ground. Of course,

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we got the brave hurricane hunters that fly around

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and into the storm. But, you know, a lot of folks

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keep thinking, well, you know, like you mentioned

00:19:03.849 --> 00:19:05.769
a moment ago that, you know, hurricanes affect

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the coastal areas. That's true. They got to keep

00:19:08.289 --> 00:19:10.849
in mind some of these storms travel well inland.

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I mean, look at Hurricane Hugo back in 1989 that

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hit Charleston, South Carolina. It was still

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a Cat 1 hurricane when it got to the western

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side of North Carolina. It was still a strong

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tropical storm when it moved into Ohio. So, these

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things can travel a long ways, but with all the

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technology, what role does amateur radio still

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play with hurricanes? Just like with your local

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Skyworm program, we need spotters. People who

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can give ground truth data reports of what's

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going on on the ground. These weather satellites

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orbit the Earth at over 22 ,000 miles trying

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to give the forecasters an idea of what's going

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on on a ground level. The radar scans atmosphere

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trying to figure out what's going on at ground

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level. The hurricane hunters fly in and around

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using drop signs and other types of electronic

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equipment trying to figure out what's going on

00:20:01.869 --> 00:20:04.910
at ground level. So if we have people who are

00:20:04.910 --> 00:20:07.549
already at the ground, have measured weather

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data or even estimated, and can also give us

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the damage reports, storm surge, and willing

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to share that information with the forecasters,

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Guess what? The forecasters want that because

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they don't have to do any guessing. They've already

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got the evidence right there. So nothing beats

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the human eye that the good Lord gave us. And

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Hurricane Washington will always be ready to

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receive those ground truth reports and forward

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them directly to the National Hurricane Center

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by way of WX4NHC who is stationed right there

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in the Hurricane Center. And of course, we've

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also been providing over the past six years situational

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awareness of these landfall and hurricanes to

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FEMA. US Army and Air Force Mars who force that

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data to the Department of Defense and we're also

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providing awareness to the American Red Cross

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Salvation Army and of course many other government

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and non -government agencies. Now we're going

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to let Rob tell us a little bit about the Voice

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over IP Hurricane Net. For the Hurricane Watch

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Net, you're on HF. Tell everybody just a synopsis

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of what the Hurricane WatchNet is and how you

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would turn in data if you're a ham and you have

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some data from a train spotter. Yes, so on the

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VOIP... That was for Bobby, I'm sorry. Oh, okay.

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And then we'll then then the you're gonna get

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the same thing with VoIP, Rob Okay, I missed

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part of your question there, but I believe you

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asked more like it reaches had yeah, we operate

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on 20 meters at all on 14 decimal three to five

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megahertz That's what we've been since our foundation

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however has passed seven or eight years now Being

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at this thing like never -ending solar minimum

00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:09.099
The 20 meter band is just about most days have

00:22:09.099 --> 00:22:13.079
been absolutely useless So in 2013 when I became

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that manager, I officially made our net a 24

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-hour net so that during the daytime we work

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on 20 meters at nighttime will switch over on

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the 40 meter band of 72 68 megahertz and Operate

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as long as we can at nighttime there. And as

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we've been having to the past few years, we've

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been operating both frequencies simultaneously.

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So hopefully solar conditions will improve and

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we'll start getting some better propagation on

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the 20 meter band as well. And then that's a

00:22:43.349 --> 00:22:45.930
cool thing to listen to as well because you can

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just kind of you know sit back and listen and

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kind of get a feel for what's going on and then

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by all means if you have crane spotter information

00:22:54.630 --> 00:22:57.349
you can you can jump in there the appropriate

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time and and pass that along. So yeah let's go

00:23:01.210 --> 00:23:05.880
over to Rob. Now Rob you don't have a An even

00:23:05.880 --> 00:23:09.319
numbered year anniversary like everybody else.

00:23:09.339 --> 00:23:12.119
So I feel like I'm leaving you out here But but

00:23:12.119 --> 00:23:15.440
you're in charge of the VoIP net So let's talk

00:23:15.440 --> 00:23:18.259
a little bit about that the same kind of the

00:23:18.259 --> 00:23:20.980
same question How how does the VoIP hurricane

00:23:20.980 --> 00:23:24.660
network and how's that information gathered and

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provided to the National Hurricane Center? Yes,

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so on the VOIP hurricane net we use echo link

00:23:37.569 --> 00:23:41.029
and IRLP and link them together into one network

00:23:41.029 --> 00:23:47.009
to help communicate with a lot of amateur operators

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that wouldn't necessarily be able to be gotten

00:23:49.930 --> 00:23:53.170
with if they don't have HF capability or ability

00:23:53.170 --> 00:23:56.369
to get on with the general or higher class license

00:23:56.369 --> 00:23:59.690
for HF. And even though it's based through the

00:23:59.690 --> 00:24:02.089
internet and certainly, you know, with situations

00:24:02.089 --> 00:24:04.430
like Hurricane Michael and the Panhandle of Florida

00:24:04.430 --> 00:24:08.910
with the... Hurricane Dorian in the Bahamas,

00:24:09.210 --> 00:24:11.190
the Internet is not going to be viable. There

00:24:11.190 --> 00:24:13.509
are other cases where the Internet is up and

00:24:13.509 --> 00:24:18.029
it allows for communications and relaying of

00:24:18.029 --> 00:24:20.769
surface reporting using the typical Sky 1 criteria

00:24:20.769 --> 00:24:22.950
of the Weather Service Offices to get reports

00:24:22.950 --> 00:24:30.069
into Julio Rapol and his team at WX4NHC at the

00:24:30.069 --> 00:24:32.230
Hurricane Center, the amateur radio station there.

00:24:33.280 --> 00:24:36.680
So we have a report form that we can send reports

00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:40.339
on. WX4NHC monitors us directly. A couple of

00:24:40.339 --> 00:24:46.539
examples that I can use include a couple of years

00:24:46.539 --> 00:24:49.240
ago during Hurricane Maria, a number of reports

00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:52.079
in Dominica were relayed from an amateur operator

00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:55.039
in St. Lucia who had echo link capability and

00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:58.920
had VHF contact with the... Island of Dominica,

00:24:59.539 --> 00:25:02.740
and that allowed vital information to come through.

00:25:03.220 --> 00:25:05.619
We also, you will use modern forms of social

00:25:05.619 --> 00:25:08.319
media and try to reach out to non -amateur radio

00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:11.319
spotters and sources for information. There's

00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:14.920
the stormcarib .com, a storm blogging site that

00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:18.920
also has information. So we try to use all the

00:25:18.920 --> 00:25:23.339
resources we can to gather surface reports during

00:25:23.339 --> 00:25:29.579
hurricanes. That's what we do and sometimes it's

00:25:29.579 --> 00:25:31.940
there when, you know, HF conditions are poor,

00:25:31.980 --> 00:25:34.369
but like I said on the flip side. You know, there's

00:25:34.369 --> 00:25:36.190
times where the internet's just not going to

00:25:36.190 --> 00:25:39.529
hold up like in Hurricane Michael, then in the

00:25:39.529 --> 00:25:41.589
panhandle of Florida or Dorian with the Bahamas.

00:25:41.950 --> 00:25:45.630
So we're all complementary working together and

00:25:45.630 --> 00:25:49.309
using any and all means. Amateur radio via its

00:25:49.309 --> 00:25:52.450
ubiquitous ways to communicate. And like I said,

00:25:52.630 --> 00:25:55.349
also using social media and the modern forms

00:25:55.349 --> 00:25:57.930
of it and so forth and allow the online weather

00:25:57.930 --> 00:26:01.069
stations and such to relay information into the

00:26:01.069 --> 00:26:06.359
Hurricane Center. Very good Robin. Yeah, you

00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:09.960
always want to have multiple paths because you

00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:12.079
just don't know what what's going to be available

00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:15.859
and it's great that you have that capability

00:26:15.859 --> 00:26:21.000
and You know HF may not be possible. So We've

00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:23.640
got both. We've got the the HF with the hurricane

00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:27.960
watch net. We've got voiceover IP so we're using

00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:32.349
internet and VHF and UHF to to get there and

00:26:32.349 --> 00:26:35.190
you all do a fabulous job with that and thank

00:26:35.190 --> 00:26:38.690
you for all the work that you do to to make all

00:26:38.690 --> 00:26:41.329
that happen. Well it's time for a break so what

00:26:41.329 --> 00:26:42.890
we're going to do is we're going to take a break.

00:26:43.529 --> 00:26:45.869
We're going to come back and we'll talk a little

00:26:45.869 --> 00:26:49.549
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And be sure to check us out on Facebook, Twitter,

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So if you have a question for our panel, give

00:30:30.130 --> 00:30:39.329
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00:30:39.329 --> 00:30:44.849
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00:30:44.849 --> 00:30:48.849
not live. We're Memrex, so you won't be able

00:30:48.849 --> 00:30:53.269
to chime in online here. We do have some comments

00:30:53.269 --> 00:30:56.089
online. We'll get to here in a minute, and I

00:30:56.089 --> 00:30:58.890
believe something came in on Twitter, so let

00:30:58.890 --> 00:31:03.819
me check that here in a moment. Lloyd, you mentioned

00:31:03.819 --> 00:31:07.799
something during the break about Wind Link, so

00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.819
why don't you mention Wind Link here before we

00:31:10.819 --> 00:31:16.539
get into that. Well, my mention is in remembering

00:31:16.539 --> 00:31:22.359
over the decades of Skywarn and service to National

00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:24.900
Weather Service offices and especially National

00:31:24.900 --> 00:31:28.000
Hurricanes that our technology has certainly

00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:33.750
changed a lot and We mentioned in my first segment,

00:31:34.490 --> 00:31:39.009
automatic packet reporting system was not so

00:31:39.009 --> 00:31:45.269
much going back in the late 70s, early 80s. Windlink

00:31:45.269 --> 00:31:49.329
certainly was a dream, but not reality. And I

00:31:49.329 --> 00:31:53.730
don't know when Julio had installed Windlink

00:31:53.730 --> 00:31:58.480
in the EOC there, but now it's... pretty much

00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:01.440
an annual test. I'll send them a Windlink message

00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:04.000
just to make sure they got it. And they reply

00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:06.799
that they did. So Windlink has come aboard and

00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:09.819
WSChat lets us get directly into the Weather

00:32:09.819 --> 00:32:14.420
Service offices. So there's plenty of opportunity

00:32:14.420 --> 00:32:19.980
for communication. And again, if you're not a

00:32:19.980 --> 00:32:23.480
part of the local SCOT -1 program, and if you

00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:27.380
want to be involved and Hurricane Watch Net or

00:32:27.380 --> 00:32:31.559
the Hurricane Skywarn Net. Please reach out to

00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:36.140
the leadership from both of those nets. Join

00:32:36.140 --> 00:32:39.019
your local Skywarn program. Get the training.

00:32:39.500 --> 00:32:41.980
There is training available. You may not get

00:32:41.980 --> 00:32:44.500
a spot or card, but you certainly can get training

00:32:44.500 --> 00:32:49.539
in Skywarn programs and beef up your communication

00:32:49.539 --> 00:32:51.319
skills because you never know when you're going

00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:58.200
to need them. Well said. 859 -982 -7373 is the

00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:00.700
phone number. We do have a couple of things that

00:33:00.700 --> 00:33:04.640
have come in online. First of all, this one's

00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:12.059
going to Bobby. Chris Stinson, KC8YTK in Charleston,

00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:14.680
South Carolina says, got to say I was inspired

00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:18.759
at age five by a Hurricane WatchNet operator

00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:24.069
featured on Featured for a hot second on an episode

00:33:24.069 --> 00:33:28.789
of Nova on PBS about hurricanes and that aired

00:33:28.789 --> 00:33:39.269
in 1989 and now he's a ham Do you remember that

00:33:39.269 --> 00:33:44.069
episode by chance Actually, I don't remember

00:33:44.069 --> 00:33:52.799
seeing that but uh in 1988 I had not long gotten

00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:56.559
my license and I was just a technician license

00:33:56.559 --> 00:34:01.160
at the time and I was traveling through the middle

00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:03.460
part of Tennessee working on medical equipment

00:34:03.460 --> 00:34:07.640
and I had a Kenwood TS -440 that I was taking

00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:10.019
with me and about the day I'd been working a

00:34:10.019 --> 00:34:12.219
little bit at 10 meters and then I got to thinking,

00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:14.860
you know, what is in store for me when I get

00:34:14.860 --> 00:34:16.900
upgraded to general class license or higher?

00:34:16.980 --> 00:34:19.900
So I started dialing around the 20 meter handband

00:34:19.900 --> 00:34:24.920
and came across 14 325 and heard a gentleman

00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:27.960
down in Panama City Beach, Florida really on

00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:31.699
who I'm talking about Don K Colonel Don K K K

00:34:31.699 --> 00:34:36.320
0 IND and He was working some stations in on

00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:38.500
the island of Jamaica. This was when Hurricane

00:34:38.500 --> 00:34:41.579
Gilbert was coming across Very strong category

00:34:41.579 --> 00:34:45.159
for almost cat 5 at the time and just devastated

00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:47.820
the island of Jamaica and I was listening I said,

00:34:47.980 --> 00:34:52.500
you know I would one day love to be a part of

00:34:52.500 --> 00:34:56.219
that organization and maybe be able to be a good

00:34:56.219 --> 00:34:58.679
net control operator like that guy. And then

00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.760
later on that day, the weather was bad than where

00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:04.360
I was at in Arkansas and turned around on two

00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:08.800
meters and came across a SkyWarnnet. And learned

00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:11.300
a little bit about that and that pretty much

00:35:11.300 --> 00:35:14.280
sold me on getting into the weather part. Lo

00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:16.900
and behold, I didn't know that a few years later.

00:35:17.340 --> 00:35:19.300
that I would be joining the Hurricane Watch,

00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.500
Ned, and never even dreamed of being where I'm

00:35:22.500 --> 00:35:26.179
at now, but the way I look at it, and I think

00:35:26.179 --> 00:35:28.780
all the guys here on the program here tonight,

00:35:29.900 --> 00:35:32.980
we don't do it because this is part of the hobby.

00:35:33.579 --> 00:35:35.800
Anybody says, well, emergency services is a hobby,

00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:39.519
if that's your idea, I think you need to refine

00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:42.159
your definition of things. To me, I think what

00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:43.880
we're doing is more of a ministry. We're trying

00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:46.269
to help people. in their time of need before,

00:35:46.309 --> 00:35:48.750
during, and even after these hurricane disasters.

00:35:51.150 --> 00:35:55.590
Well said. And Chris says, thanks for acknowledging

00:35:55.590 --> 00:35:58.469
the comment and he's going to see if he can find

00:35:58.469 --> 00:36:01.650
a clip of that show, but it was from Hurricane

00:36:01.650 --> 00:36:06.000
Gilbert. That was the hurricane that was profiled

00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:10.539
in that show. So thanks Chris for the comments

00:36:10.539 --> 00:36:14.300
there. And we've got a question here and let

00:36:14.300 --> 00:36:21.019
me throw this over to Rob. This is from Endoff

00:36:21.019 --> 00:36:28.599
in 6UTC or MW1BQO, whichever place he happens

00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:32.579
to be at the time. And end off wants to know

00:36:32.579 --> 00:36:34.960
does the National Hurricane Center have digital

00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:38.239
voice and the capability to connect to wires

00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:44.940
X D star reflectors and Is the VoIP weathernet

00:36:44.940 --> 00:36:50.579
available on? Fusion or D star that kind of thing

00:36:50.579 --> 00:36:56.119
So you so I think We'll go around the horn a

00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:59.699
little bit with Julio and Lloyd on this as well.

00:37:00.970 --> 00:37:04.610
We have been trying to do some more work to interface

00:37:04.610 --> 00:37:07.710
some of the digital modes such as D -Star and

00:37:07.710 --> 00:37:12.429
DMR into our network. We've actually had a network

00:37:12.429 --> 00:37:15.250
through QuadNet, but we have not been able to

00:37:15.250 --> 00:37:17.949
kind of link the two together. And it's not a

00:37:17.949 --> 00:37:20.929
technical reason, it's just a lot of angst around

00:37:20.929 --> 00:37:24.510
digital voice versus analog voice capabilities

00:37:24.510 --> 00:37:28.650
and actually linking those together. We have

00:37:28.650 --> 00:37:31.690
done a little bit of work. with DMR and having

00:37:31.690 --> 00:37:34.469
it connected. We actually had it at times connected

00:37:34.469 --> 00:37:42.449
during the 2018 hurricane season, but last year

00:37:42.449 --> 00:37:45.829
we had to basically monitor them to them both

00:37:45.829 --> 00:37:49.269
independently. From a D -STAR perspective, I'll

00:37:49.269 --> 00:37:53.650
let Julio talk a little bit about DRATs and some

00:37:53.650 --> 00:37:57.070
work and how they've managed to get information

00:37:57.070 --> 00:37:59.429
from D -STAR that way. And then we can finish

00:37:59.429 --> 00:38:01.429
up with Lloyd, who could talk a little bit more

00:38:01.429 --> 00:38:03.929
about some of the capabilities of QuadNet and

00:38:03.929 --> 00:38:06.389
some of the other linking that he's done with

00:38:06.389 --> 00:38:13.500
Yres and with... With Y res and with all -star

00:38:13.500 --> 00:38:15.719
has some more capability there, but I'll let

00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:28.280
Julio go with on DRATs Okay, I guess I'm on yep,

00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:32.000
go ahead Julio All right. I wasn't sure anyway

00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:36.500
real quickly Yes, we do monitor wind link. In

00:38:36.500 --> 00:38:41.360
fact our first wind link The surface report activity

00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:46.400
was 2005 Hurricane Adrian, and we were monitoring

00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:51.280
a sailboat near El Salvador, and we had no surface

00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:55.960
reports, there were no weather radars. The satellite,

00:38:56.719 --> 00:38:59.579
the eye had clouded over, they had no visibility

00:38:59.579 --> 00:39:03.920
of the eye location, and Dr. Rick Nabb was the

00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:05.880
head forecaster at the time, this was before

00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:09.460
he was director. Said where are you getting this

00:39:09.460 --> 00:39:12.559
data from you're getting weather data from? Weather

00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:15.340
equipment and it was a sailboat a group of sailboats

00:39:15.340 --> 00:39:17.340
that were anchored somewhere near El Salvador

00:39:17.340 --> 00:39:21.320
Well those ham radio reports came through wind

00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:24.119
link HF wind link and it got to me and got to

00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:27.559
the hurricane center and it changed the track

00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:30.860
of the hurricane and the hurricane after they

00:39:30.860 --> 00:39:34.260
had Forecasted landing in a certain location

00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:37.440
actually landed in a different country. I mean,

00:39:37.619 --> 00:39:40.539
that was a major, major difference there. So

00:39:40.539 --> 00:39:44.920
that's Windlink. We do monitor that. If you have

00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:48.800
any surface reports, wx4nhc at windlink .org.

00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:53.179
And anyway, so that's that. And I just want to

00:39:53.179 --> 00:39:56.000
emphasize, this is all teamwork. There's no one

00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:58.900
individual group or person or anything. It's

00:39:58.900 --> 00:40:01.719
a bunch of teams, Hurricane Watchneck, the VOIP,

00:40:01.940 --> 00:40:05.059
Hurricane Net, and of course, the most valuable,

00:40:05.460 --> 00:40:07.559
the stations on the ground being affected by

00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.519
the hurricane. And then the relay stations all

00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:14.360
over the country, all over the Caribbean, Central

00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:17.289
America, and even South America. They're very

00:40:17.289 --> 00:40:19.849
important to relay those reports back to us.

00:40:20.010 --> 00:40:22.849
Sometimes we don't have, like Bobby said, HF

00:40:22.849 --> 00:40:27.889
has not been very good recently. So we rely on

00:40:27.889 --> 00:40:31.389
that. Digital modes, we do a bunch, but we can't

00:40:31.389 --> 00:40:34.250
do them all. We don't have enough operators,

00:40:34.670 --> 00:40:37.969
equipment, and space to do everything. So we

00:40:37.969 --> 00:40:41.309
love the VYP net that kind of consolidates. all

00:40:41.309 --> 00:40:43.789
these different digital modes and then brings

00:40:43.789 --> 00:40:46.690
us the reports. So they have all these net controls

00:40:46.690 --> 00:40:49.349
and operators putting this all together and then

00:40:49.349 --> 00:40:51.949
we have one or two operators at the hurricane

00:40:51.949 --> 00:40:55.909
center and we just can't handle you know 12 different

00:40:55.909 --> 00:40:59.510
modes and frequencies at one time. So that's

00:40:59.510 --> 00:41:03.969
the basic synopsis there. Go ahead Neil. Okay

00:41:03.969 --> 00:41:06.550
and let's throw it over to Lloyd. Lloyd you want

00:41:06.550 --> 00:41:09.269
to talk a little more about Some of those other

00:41:09.269 --> 00:41:12.670
modes, I know Rob mentioned All -Star and some

00:41:12.670 --> 00:41:14.469
other things, so you want to finish that up?

00:41:16.150 --> 00:41:21.909
I'd like to just mention the EchoLink 7203 is

00:41:21.909 --> 00:41:28.030
our primary conference. IRLP 9219 is our primary

00:41:28.030 --> 00:41:31.849
IRLP. There are others. There's some listen -only

00:41:31.849 --> 00:41:34.489
nodes, and we appreciate people to go to the

00:41:34.489 --> 00:41:37.150
listen -only nodes if they're not actively involved.

00:41:37.550 --> 00:41:44.949
AllStar 28848 on AllStar is my node in the cloud

00:41:44.949 --> 00:41:52.730
which ties to KC5FM -R and during VoIP activations

00:41:52.730 --> 00:41:57.670
we will put that node into the mix with EchoLink

00:41:57.670 --> 00:42:04.030
and IROP. QuadNet that Rob mentioned, QuadNet

00:42:04.030 --> 00:42:10.389
has a Two calls signed for D -Star, just WXNET

00:42:10.389 --> 00:42:15.769
and people on QuadNet can monitor that. I don't

00:42:15.769 --> 00:42:19.269
have equipment to monitor everything just like

00:42:19.269 --> 00:42:21.989
National Hurricane Center doesn't. I am on D

00:42:21.989 --> 00:42:27.739
-Star and I do monitor QuadNet when I can. This

00:42:27.739 --> 00:42:30.300
is a commercial now for, if you're interested

00:42:30.300 --> 00:42:34.739
in volunteering on VOIP, talk to Rod, talk to

00:42:34.739 --> 00:42:38.300
Bobby for Hurricane WatchNet, talk to your local

00:42:38.300 --> 00:42:41.360
emergency manager or the local weather forecast

00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:44.079
office for Scott Warren opportunities in your

00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:50.380
area. All right, very good. We've got a few more

00:42:50.380 --> 00:42:54.179
coming in here online. And I know we were talking

00:42:54.179 --> 00:42:57.000
about this actually before the show and I'm not

00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:00.920
sure who we want to throw this to. So I'll just

00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:06.159
throw it out there. John W4USF says, is this

00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:09.260
next hurricane season expected to be very active?

00:43:09.900 --> 00:43:13.099
And what supplies should you have for hurricane

00:43:13.099 --> 00:43:18.840
season? And toilet paper and hand sanitizer too,

00:43:18.900 --> 00:43:30.889
right? If you can find it Maybe I'll just jump

00:43:30.889 --> 00:43:34.130
in on the the I'll let Bobby speak to preparedness

00:43:34.130 --> 00:43:37.250
And preparedness shouldn't be when the hurricane

00:43:37.250 --> 00:43:40.190
watch gets issued It should be you know far in

00:43:40.190 --> 00:43:43.250
advance of that and yes hand sanitizer and toilet

00:43:43.250 --> 00:43:46.869
paper as well given the pandemic but Both Penn

00:43:46.869 --> 00:43:50.929
State and Colorado State universities are predicting

00:43:50.929 --> 00:43:54.369
an above -normal season, and I've seen some other

00:43:54.369 --> 00:43:57.929
forecasters and outlets doing the same, and the

00:43:57.929 --> 00:44:00.070
NOAA outlook should be out within the next couple

00:44:00.070 --> 00:44:02.829
of weeks as well. And I imagine they will also

00:44:02.829 --> 00:44:05.909
be forecasting an above -normal season. And Bobby,

00:44:05.929 --> 00:44:08.929
I'll let you speak more on the preparedness side

00:44:08.929 --> 00:44:11.730
and anything you want to add on the seasonal

00:44:11.730 --> 00:44:17.760
forecasts. Yeah, funny you mentioned the different

00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:21.559
forecast on April 2nd. Dr. Glocks back from Colorado

00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:25.599
State On April 2nd. He said these these forecasts

00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:28.300
and 16 named storms eight to become hurricanes

00:44:28.300 --> 00:44:31.460
For those to become major hurricanes, which is

00:44:31.460 --> 00:44:34.300
a category three or higher Tropical storm risk

00:44:34.300 --> 00:44:37.179
on April 7th. They should basically the same

00:44:37.179 --> 00:44:41.619
forecast Arizona The University of Arizona, April

00:44:41.619 --> 00:44:45.300
13th, they're forecasting 19 named storms, 10

00:44:45.300 --> 00:44:47.940
become hurricanes, five of those become major

00:44:47.940 --> 00:44:52.719
hurricanes. And North Carolina State, April 17th,

00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:55.219
they're forecasting anywhere between 18 to 22

00:44:55.219 --> 00:44:57.860
named storms, eight to 11 becoming hurricanes,

00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:00.579
and three to five becoming major hurricanes.

00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:04.659
For preparedness, I'd like to invite you to visit

00:45:04.659 --> 00:45:08.760
our website, hwn .org. And down at the bottom

00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:11.280
of the screen, we'll have a link that says preparedness.

00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:13.739
And I think there's even one on the left side

00:45:13.739 --> 00:45:16.739
navigation bar. And from there, we have some

00:45:16.739 --> 00:45:20.079
downloadable PDF files that actually come from

00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:22.039
FEMA. They're just sort of a quick link to get

00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:24.300
them where you can have a emergency family plan,

00:45:24.539 --> 00:45:28.400
emergency supply checklist, even some other things

00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:31.719
where you can dive in deeper as to certain things

00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:33.380
you need to check on, like insurance coverage,

00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:35.360
make sure you have enough insurance for your

00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:39.250
home. things to possibly do to make your home

00:45:39.250 --> 00:45:43.710
stronger, safe rooms, things of that nature.

00:45:44.590 --> 00:45:46.969
And if you have some friends that speak Spanish

00:45:46.969 --> 00:45:51.329
only, some of those files are in Spanish as well.

00:45:51.590 --> 00:45:57.010
So check that out, hwn .org. Very good. And Chris

00:45:57.010 --> 00:46:00.469
A, 4CB says, light bulbs in case you lose power.

00:46:01.369 --> 00:46:04.989
Go ahead, whoever was chiming in there. Going

00:46:04.989 --> 00:46:07.869
to chime in with FEMA, Federal Emergency Management

00:46:07.869 --> 00:46:11.889
Agency, fema .gov slash ready, uh, has a website

00:46:11.889 --> 00:46:16.590
for preparedness. Redcross .org has a website

00:46:16.590 --> 00:46:18.809
for preparedness. I'd like to mention both of

00:46:18.809 --> 00:46:22.710
those and encourage your listeners prepare now

00:46:22.710 --> 00:46:27.420
for what will happen. Don't wait until, uh, You

00:46:27.420 --> 00:46:31.760
are asked to evacuate. Have your evacuation route

00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:34.460
planned out ahead of time. Have your extra gas

00:46:34.460 --> 00:46:37.460
available to take with you. If you have pets,

00:46:37.659 --> 00:46:40.420
have a plan for pets. If you're going to evacuate

00:46:40.420 --> 00:46:43.940
with your pets, check out the pet friendly hotels

00:46:43.940 --> 00:46:47.119
that you're going to be able to go to along the

00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:49.599
route. Plan now what you're going to do rather

00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:52.099
than wait for it to happen. And then you have

00:46:52.099 --> 00:46:59.500
to do it. Please. Okay, and John says, I'm moving

00:46:59.500 --> 00:47:03.519
back to Indiana, so John will welcome you back.

00:47:04.539 --> 00:47:10.079
Okay, a couple more here. Chris again, and I

00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:13.099
think we hit some of this, but let's do it again,

00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:16.619
Rob. How can we follow, find, and submit reports

00:47:16.619 --> 00:47:28.059
on the Voice over IP net? Rob? Yes, so the the

00:47:28.059 --> 00:47:31.659
like Lloyd pointed out we have IRLP reflector

00:47:31.659 --> 00:47:35.940
nine two one nine and the star wx underscore

00:47:35.940 --> 00:47:39.420
talk star Echolink conference note seven two

00:47:39.420 --> 00:47:42.000
zero three if you're in the affected area in

00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:45.239
a coastal area in hurricanes, that's where you

00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:50.820
go to and Give us your reports on air and We

00:47:50.820 --> 00:47:56.219
can get the reports into WX4NHC. If you can access

00:47:56.219 --> 00:47:59.519
the net, we do have our Facebook and Twitter

00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:04.980
feeds and their VOIP WX net. You can send and

00:48:04.980 --> 00:48:08.559
post information there for us as well. If for

00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:14.039
some reason you can't reach our system. So there

00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:18.260
are some of the examples to reach us on the VOIP

00:48:18.260 --> 00:48:22.710
Hurricane Net side. We also have a number of

00:48:22.710 --> 00:48:25.110
listen -only nodes that Lloyd mentions, though,

00:48:25.170 --> 00:48:27.769
again, they are listen -only. So from a voice

00:48:27.769 --> 00:48:31.230
perspective, you would not be able to reach us,

00:48:31.289 --> 00:48:33.030
though you would be able to listen to our net

00:48:33.030 --> 00:48:39.690
in that path. So that's some of the ways to connect

00:48:39.690 --> 00:48:43.860
to us on the Hurricane Net. And I would mention

00:48:43.860 --> 00:48:49.460
the VoIPwx .net website. VoIPwx .net website

00:48:49.460 --> 00:48:52.219
listens our primary nodes and it listens our

00:48:52.219 --> 00:48:54.480
listen -only nodes, especially during activation.

00:48:55.179 --> 00:48:57.500
So look to the website for that information,

00:48:57.500 --> 00:49:04.260
please. Okay, there you go, Chris. I'm thinking

00:49:04.260 --> 00:49:11.000
maybe Julio on this one. Dennis. I need to scroll

00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:17.380
up and find Dennis's call here. Dennis is K8DLH

00:49:17.380 --> 00:49:22.679
over in Port Richey, Florida. Says, what connections

00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:27.980
do you have with us on the Gulf side? They go

00:49:27.980 --> 00:49:32.079
through Ruskin, the National Weather Service

00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:34.579
there. I actually know where that is. I've been

00:49:34.579 --> 00:49:38.820
there. He's a net control operator for Pasco

00:49:38.820 --> 00:49:45.139
County. Okay, very good. Well, on the golf course

00:49:45.139 --> 00:49:48.780
here again, you can, depending on what equipment

00:49:48.780 --> 00:49:52.079
you have, what modes you run, you can actually

00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:56.800
check in with us on the HF Hurricane Watch net

00:49:56.800 --> 00:50:00.380
frequency. You can also do the VOIP Echolink

00:50:00.380 --> 00:50:05.159
or IRLP net, whatever digital mode. And then

00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:09.219
if... You can also participate in what they call

00:50:09.219 --> 00:50:14.420
SARNET, S -A -R -N -E -T. SARNET is basically

00:50:14.420 --> 00:50:19.519
linking, we linked about 27 repeaters, VHF and

00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:22.820
UHF, actually they're mostly UHF, all the way

00:50:22.820 --> 00:50:27.500
from Key West to Tallahassee, and it's mostly

00:50:27.500 --> 00:50:31.559
the EOCs, but anyone is welcome on there during

00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:35.849
hurricanes. It is a controlled net frequency

00:50:35.849 --> 00:50:40.530
for all of those repeaters. And we do speak directly

00:50:40.530 --> 00:50:45.869
to EOCs via the SARDET network, which is sponsored

00:50:45.869 --> 00:50:53.070
by Florida DOT. OK, go ahead. Very good. Well,

00:50:53.210 --> 00:50:56.869
I think we are caught up. Let me check here.

00:50:56.889 --> 00:51:00.110
And we're a little bit over time here. We'll

00:51:00.110 --> 00:51:02.269
finish things up. But yeah, I think we've got

00:51:02.269 --> 00:51:06.869
all the questions and comments in. So let's just

00:51:06.869 --> 00:51:10.690
go around to everybody one last time for any

00:51:10.690 --> 00:51:16.090
closing comments. And we'll go with Bobby first.

00:51:18.289 --> 00:51:19.909
Well, first of all, it's good to be here tonight,

00:51:20.150 --> 00:51:23.909
Neil. And I hope everyone stays safe. This COVID

00:51:23.909 --> 00:51:27.489
is going around. But at the same time now is

00:51:27.489 --> 00:51:30.010
the time to start preparing. Don't wait for the

00:51:30.010 --> 00:51:34.130
last minute. Like Lloyd said, if you're in a

00:51:34.130 --> 00:51:38.130
hurricane -prone area, learn where your evacuation

00:51:38.130 --> 00:51:41.809
routes are. If you're not able to evacuate, especially

00:51:41.809 --> 00:51:44.690
for those down the lower part of Florida, learn

00:51:44.690 --> 00:51:48.090
where your storm shelters are and learn what

00:51:48.090 --> 00:51:53.070
their capabilities are. Make sure you have something

00:51:53.070 --> 00:51:55.800
to keep your meds refrigerated with. should you

00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:58.400
have to evacuate and copies of your insurance

00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:00.480
forms things of that nature and there's a bunch

00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:02.480
of other things I could go into but for a limited

00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:06.760
time. The main thing is just stay aware and don't

00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:09.199
wait to the last minute to make a decision on

00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:12.760
what you need to do. All right, thank you Bobby.

00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:18.260
Julio? Well, being that I've lived in Miami,

00:52:18.739 --> 00:52:23.760
I've got 55 years now, something like that and

00:52:24.940 --> 00:52:29.440
been through Probably a dozen hurricanes including

00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:32.800
Hurricane Andrew which blew off half the roof

00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:36.960
of my house I can tell you you can't prepare

00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:41.599
enough or soon enough If you live in a hurricane

00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:46.239
affected area definitely plan ahead Make sure

00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:50.079
you fill up your cars with gasoline be not the

00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:52.679
day before hurricanes gonna make landfall and

00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:57.059
that's what happens in Miami Very often you see

00:52:57.059 --> 00:53:00.280
the very long lines of cars waiting to get gas

00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:04.380
and then the water is out of supply We haven't

00:53:04.380 --> 00:53:06.460
had a problem with toilet paper with hurricanes

00:53:06.460 --> 00:53:10.400
before but I don't know You know the mindset

00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:13.300
now But this hurricane season is going to be

00:53:13.300 --> 00:53:15.239
a very serious one. They're predicting about

00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:19.099
a hundred and forty percent above average Uh,

00:53:19.139 --> 00:53:22.119
here again, it only takes one hurricane to ruin

00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:25.559
your year. It depends where it hits. So prepare

00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:28.280
early, prepare well. There's plenty of information

00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:31.699
online and to compound everything. We have this

00:53:31.699 --> 00:53:35.099
coronavirus pandemic, which may coincide with

00:53:35.099 --> 00:53:38.559
hurricane season. And that is the nightmare scenario

00:53:38.559 --> 00:53:41.239
that we're hoping does not happen. Go ahead,

00:53:41.340 --> 00:53:45.159
Neil. All right. Yeah, that's, that's not a good

00:53:45.159 --> 00:53:50.059
combination. So. We will hope for the best. All

00:53:50.059 --> 00:53:56.199
right, your turn, Rob. Well, first off, it's

00:53:56.199 --> 00:53:59.719
great to be on a panel such as this with Bobby

00:53:59.719 --> 00:54:03.519
and Julio. We definitely missed meeting up at

00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:07.179
the Hurricane Conference this year, but we'll

00:54:07.179 --> 00:54:12.739
see what happens for next year. Also, just want

00:54:12.739 --> 00:54:17.010
to comment, now is the time to prepare. Don't

00:54:17.010 --> 00:54:19.110
wait for the hurricane watch or the tropical

00:54:19.110 --> 00:54:20.829
storm watches because even the tropical storms

00:54:20.829 --> 00:54:24.789
can be pretty serious. Try to get some preparation

00:54:24.789 --> 00:54:27.829
done while you can. Also keeping in mind the

00:54:27.829 --> 00:54:30.289
pandemic and what that could do to preparations

00:54:30.289 --> 00:54:34.369
and maintaining preparation for that while you're

00:54:34.369 --> 00:54:37.670
going through the hurricane season. And then

00:54:37.670 --> 00:54:40.989
I got to tell you that a lot of the public service

00:54:40.989 --> 00:54:45.090
folks in police, fire, et cetera, are all stressed

00:54:45.090 --> 00:54:49.769
to the max with the pandemic. And that means

00:54:49.769 --> 00:54:51.650
they're going to be stretched even more if a

00:54:51.650 --> 00:54:54.449
major hurricane is bearing down on a given area.

00:54:54.969 --> 00:54:57.309
So this is really where amateur radio can shine

00:54:57.309 --> 00:55:00.829
through with the surface reporting that is critical

00:55:00.829 --> 00:55:02.789
for the National Weather Service, critical in

00:55:02.789 --> 00:55:05.929
the warning process, really an opportunity for

00:55:05.929 --> 00:55:08.610
us to make a difference and make a difference

00:55:08.610 --> 00:55:11.500
even if the communications are still up. by allowing

00:55:11.500 --> 00:55:15.599
and providing all those additional sets of eyes

00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:19.360
and ears and weather stations and other observations

00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:24.480
that can best be obtained through our networks

00:55:24.480 --> 00:55:27.980
and dealing with, again, the modern social media

00:55:27.980 --> 00:55:31.320
networks as well. Former Director Greg Fugate

00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:34.119
used to say Amateur Radio is the inventors of

00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:36.260
social media, because Amateur Radio is a form

00:55:36.260 --> 00:55:38.360
of that. And now you have Twitter and Facebook.

00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:41.239
as well on Instagram and all the other social

00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:44.159
media outlets that we can help manage and also

00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:47.539
create our own activity within our networks that's

00:55:47.539 --> 00:55:50.469
so important. So just want to mention that. And

00:55:50.469 --> 00:55:53.050
then I just want to congratulate Julio and team

00:55:53.050 --> 00:55:57.610
and Bobby and team on WX4NHC and the Hurricane

00:55:57.610 --> 00:56:01.510
WatchNet on their tremendous anniversaries and

00:56:01.510 --> 00:56:04.309
public service. They are amazing. And hopefully

00:56:04.309 --> 00:56:06.949
the VOIP HurricaneNet will get there as well

00:56:06.949 --> 00:56:11.960
someday. It's amazing public service from these

00:56:11.960 --> 00:56:16.059
great teams of folks looking to save lives and

00:56:16.059 --> 00:56:18.400
property. So just wanted to give them a shout

00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:21.340
out on their historic anniversaries in amateur

00:56:21.340 --> 00:56:27.340
radio public service. Well, well said. And Lloyd,

00:56:27.340 --> 00:56:30.960
you're going to get the last word tonight. And

00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:34.260
I appreciate you having us on. This is an important

00:56:34.260 --> 00:56:37.050
topic. given hurricane preparedness week. And

00:56:37.050 --> 00:56:38.670
thank you for doing that. Thank you for Bobby,

00:56:38.750 --> 00:56:43.250
for your hard work on HF and thanks for all,

00:56:43.409 --> 00:56:47.170
again, the Skywarren volunteers that really make

00:56:47.170 --> 00:56:49.929
a difference for the ground truth intelligence

00:56:49.929 --> 00:56:53.349
to the weather forecast office. And I would like

00:56:53.349 --> 00:56:55.909
to give a war story on preparedness. Charlie,

00:56:56.110 --> 00:56:59.849
I think it was, was impacting Key West and there

00:56:59.849 --> 00:57:03.050
was a ham radio operator with a walkie talkie.

00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:07.079
talking on the VIP net during Charlie and everything

00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:09.480
was doing good. He was giving us reports and

00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:12.579
doing fine. The node was up on battery backup.

00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:16.880
Everything was fine. And suddenly the guy quit

00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:21.000
and mid sentence and his battery apparently on

00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:26.300
his walkie talkie failed. So prepare your communications.

00:57:26.420 --> 00:57:29.420
You're not going to talk if you cannot communicate.

00:57:29.460 --> 00:57:33.590
So have a backup. Get some clam -baked battery

00:57:33.590 --> 00:57:37.590
cases for your walkie -talkies. Have a means

00:57:37.590 --> 00:57:41.909
of sending something. I can send a message on

00:57:41.909 --> 00:57:44.949
APRS. I can send a Twitter message that comes

00:57:44.949 --> 00:57:49.809
out on APRS. So figure out what you're going

00:57:49.809 --> 00:57:53.090
to do, make a plan, build a kit to support the

00:57:53.090 --> 00:57:56.210
plan, practice the plan, and then and only then

00:57:56.210 --> 00:57:58.769
are you able to help others. Again, thanks for

00:57:58.769 --> 00:58:03.320
having us on this panel. Alright, thank you Lloyd

00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:08.019
and thank you all for being here tonight. That's

00:58:08.019 --> 00:58:12.239
some great information and it's Hurricane Preparedness

00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:14.559
Week and we've got to be aware of those things,

00:58:14.579 --> 00:58:18.500
but also other weather emergencies, you know,

00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:23.900
that don't affect us here, you know, way deep

00:58:23.900 --> 00:58:28.869
into the continental U .S. We still see some

00:58:28.869 --> 00:58:31.849
remnants of those things and get some flooding

00:58:31.849 --> 00:58:33.789
and that kind of thing. And so it's good that

00:58:33.789 --> 00:58:38.530
we're all aware of some of those things and being

00:58:38.530 --> 00:58:42.909
prepared. Now, if we had just only known to be

00:58:42.909 --> 00:58:47.369
prepared for toilet paper for a pandemic, I don't

00:58:47.369 --> 00:58:50.469
know where that came from, but whatever. That's

00:58:50.469 --> 00:58:53.909
where we are. Which is getting better, by the

00:58:53.909 --> 00:58:57.099
way, at least around here. Well, we're going

00:58:57.099 --> 00:59:01.420
to call it a night. That is a wrap for this week's

00:59:01.420 --> 00:59:05.900
HamTalk Live. Thanks to Bobby, KB5HAV, Julio,

00:59:05.980 --> 00:59:11.880
WD4R, Rob, KD1CY, and Lloyd, KC5FM, and everybody

00:59:11.880 --> 00:59:15.300
out there in cyberspace for listening and typing

00:59:15.300 --> 00:59:18.980
in tonight. And I invite you all back next Thursday

00:59:18.980 --> 00:59:21.940
night at 9 p .m. Eastern time. And we're going

00:59:21.940 --> 00:59:24.300
to have open lines next week. We're going to

00:59:24.300 --> 00:59:29.750
be commiserating, missing Hamvention. We're also

00:59:29.750 --> 00:59:32.650
going to hear a little bit about what we would

00:59:32.650 --> 00:59:36.849
have seen and what we would have had had we been

00:59:36.849 --> 00:59:40.530
able to go to Hamvention. So we will be doing

00:59:40.530 --> 00:59:44.710
that next week, next Thursday night. So be sure

00:59:44.710 --> 00:59:48.539
to tune in live at 9 p .m. Eastern Time. And

00:59:48.539 --> 00:59:52.460
we're going to take your calls the entire 45

00:59:52.460 --> 00:59:56.300
minutes, so make sure you've got your dialing

00:59:56.300 --> 00:59:59.360
fingers ready and call in and we're just going

00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:02.039
to kind of... kind of console ourselves a little

01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:05.000
bit about missing Hamvention. And for a list

01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:08.679
of all of our upcoming guests, visit HamTalkLive

01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:10.760
.com. And if you like the show, please leave

01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:13.539
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faster. So for now, this is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG,

01:00:17.300 --> 01:00:22.739
saying 7 -3, 7 -5, and may the good DX be yours.
