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It's a Yoda summer. Recorded live on Thursday,
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St. Louis. He became a ham at age 16, one of
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own YouTube channel about ham radio. And he is
president of the Young Amateurs Radio Club, better
known as YARC. And Jocelyn Bro, KD8VRX and VA2VRX
first became interested in ham radio as a Boy
Scout. He became licensed in 2013 and now holds
an extra class license. He is a technical analyst
and systems administrator with Vertical Solutions
in Cincinnati. So guys, welcome back to the show.
Hey. Good evening, Neil. Thank you for having
us on. Yeah, I thank you for coming on because
I was like, wait a minute, we need to do a show.
Thank you for coming on to the show. Well, we've
got a bunch of, oh, go ahead. I was going to
say normally Christian, you know, obviously he's
busy with his tune -up, but normally he would
be the one like you didn't have anybody else,
did you? Yeah, right, exactly. Regis? He thought
he was the low - it, yeah. You know where I was
headed, go ahead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Regis.
Yeah, he's, in fact, I just saw him. Spotted
wall ago, so I know he's on the air right now,
but We'll have to get him to listen to the replay.
Well, we've got a bunch of Summer at -home activities
for youth on the air this summer. We couldn't
Do the camp. We're still kind of bummed about
that normally about this time, you know, we would
have been scrambling to put the last few things
together and going shopping for food and All
that kind of thing and just putting the final
wraps on the on the plan and intended yes pun
intended and We're not so We're going to take
that week and we're going to do some special
stuff but stuff you can do at home just to kind
of give everybody a chance to get to know each
other a little bit and To give people some things
that they can do from home that that are Involve
ham radio and and get them ready to go to camp
and now other people can can watch long So that's
what we're going to talk about tonight First
of all The biggest event out of these I guess
would be the virtual Yoda day and that's going
to be on Wednesday June 24th It's going to be
six hours two to eight in the eastern time zone
and Again, it's the Yoda principles, I guess
would be the way to say it, that the presenters
are going to be young people. Now, some of the
competitions we're going to have are going to
be run by old users like me and Jocelyn, but
the forums are going to be youth -led, so they're
going to be conducting everything, and we'll
be there to kind of help them out and structure
everything. and it's stuff that you can do even
if you don't have a radio. So we're going to
get everybody on zoom and we're going to have
like a forum and then we're going to have a competition
and then we're going to have a forum and then
we're going to have a different competition and
we'll have a chance for them to win prizes and
and if you're not one of those campers that's
okay you can still watch and you can play along.
at home and we're even going to have a prize
for watching. So you can get a $100 gift certificate
to DX Engineering just for watching. So that's
one of the $200 gift certificates that DX Engineering
is... Graciously provided for us to give away
and Hile sound Talked to Bob actually again today,
and he's getting ready to ship me a box of stuff
I'm still not sure quite what's in that box,
but he was talking about some some pretty neat
stuff, so We'll give those away for the winners
of the competition Then we're going to give away
one of the DX engineering gift certificates as
a door prize and then at the end we have a grand
prize which we're keeping a surprise But it's
a good one and R &L electronics Has very graciously
donated our grand prize, so we're really looking
forward to that so you can watch on YouTube and
that drawing is going to be at 745 on Wednesday
June 24th. So if you want to watch that and see
see who wins that'd be a great time to show up.
So Sterling let me go to you first because you
have one of these activities. Tell us a little
bit about the activity that you're going to be
running for this. Yeah, so throughout the whole
day there's, like you said, just this variety
of, basically a variety show of different workshops
and lectures and activities. I'm going to be
doing one where we're going to use the online
WebSDR, KiwiSDR system. This one is specific
to KiwiSDR because it has some really nifty tools.
And if any of you are a fan of the Hammer Radio
Crash Course, you gotta sneak peek into the hows,
the nuts and bolts of it. But basically, what
do you do when you have some QRM, or intentional
QRM, if you will, on HF? Do you... Spin your
beam. Well, what if you don't have a beam? Do
you get a triangulation from all your friends
with beam antennas? Well, what if they don't
have a beam antenna? Well, you could use a loop
antenna. That's not too expensive. But what if
you don't have an HF radio? Well, I don't know.
What can you do? So there is one option. KiwiSDR
has the system. Called time delay of arrival
tdoa and that in all within your browser all
within the the kiwi str kind of framework and
there's lots and lots of receivers out there
that are GPS discipline and they're very accurate
and we'll get into why that's important in a
minute they let let you pick a set of receivers
and They will focus on a specific signal that
you choose and it will do its to find the location
of that signal using multilateration, and that's
just math meaning it detects the time delay of
arrival of that signal at each of these stations,
and the time is very important. That's why they're
GPS disciplined. They're GPS timed so that you
can get a very accurate time of when each part
of that signal, almost like a photon of all of
the signals, arrive at each of those stations,
which gives you an idea of where that station
lies or that interference. And this comes in
handy for a lot of things, not just finding intentional
or unintentional interference, but also search
and rescue. SOSs, if you will. So it'll be a
real -time activity. Everyone gets on. KiwiSDR,
there's plenty of stations for everybody. We
might do it in like a couple minutes. It only
takes about 30 seconds to do the whole run and
get a location. And the location, the problem
is the competition we're gonna have is that it's
not exact. It gets you close but not perfectly
close. And so whoever of the groups of people
or individuals rather, I guess, we can probably
do groups or do individuals up to them or up
to us. I don't know, we'll figure it out. Whoever
gets closest wins the prize. And you'll be surprised
at how far apart it's like. I'll bet you it's
going to be something like closing your eyes
and throwing a dart, a fistful of darts at a
dartboard and whoever gets closest to the bullseye
wins because sometimes the algorithm is so fiddly.
We're going to try to have a station out in the
center of the United States so that you can...
because one of the caveats is you can only do
TDOA or multilateration if the signal is basically
being enveloped by these stations. So you can
draw a circle around that signal of these stations
that are listening to that signal, that interference
or whatever. It says somewhere in the middle
of the U .S. So if there's any volunteers out
there who want to do like a 30 -minute long news
line broadcast, for example, would be the perfect
opportunity over single sideband or even an AM
broadcast would work even better if there isn't
a contest or a sprint going on, but it's Wednesday,
so it should be fine. Otherwise, we'll have to
find a broadcast station or a long rag chew or
something like that to find and locate, but I'm
not sure if... that hams down the street with
their location published on the internet. So
it'd also be really nice to have that secret
operator so we know behind the scenes, oh yeah,
he's exactly at this place and whoever gets close
to there versus trying to find a call sign and
going by QRZ. So there's a shout out to volunteers
there, but hopefully we'll find somebody out
there. So that's it in a nutshell. Does that
make sense? Yeah, I love the idea. And again,
you can do it from home with a computer. Yeah,
you don't need anything. It's free. You don't
need you don't even need a fast processor all
of the processing the math is done on the cloud,
on somebody else's computer. It's just like a
Fox Hunt, too. This is, because we were going
to have a Fox Hunt, an ARDF competition at the
real event in 2021, but this kind of, I think
it meets, it's the next generation of Fox Hunting,
if you will. More stations out there means more
accurate multilateration on the HF bands. This
won't work too well for VHF or UHF just because
there's not. Enough stations out in the world
to you know get a couple miles You know distance
because you're going to need to be a lot closer
in for that for for VHF UHF line -of -sight signals
But since HF goes across the atmosphere and across
the world It lets us do that. So it'll be fun.
I think Yeah, and if only we had that back in
the days of the Russian woodpecker Well, you
know, it was this big radar and it would just
Suddenly appears somewhere and you'd be talking
and all of a sudden you let go and of the mic
and it's like And nobody ever knew where it was
coming from and so if we only had that back then
we'd find out where Chernobyl was but but anyway
So if you're interested in that again that the
campers are going to be interacting on zoom and
then you know and figuring this out and there's
going to be a competition and they can win prizes
but you can watch okay so just go to the youth
on the air youtube channel and you can watch
so if you're interested in this you can watch
you can follow along just like you were in in
the zoom chat and you can try to compete you
just won't win a prize but If you're interested
in this, you can watch it too. And you don't
have to be 25 or under like our Yoda people.
So you'll have a chance to do that. And you get
a prize if one random person watching is going
to get a $100 gift certificate. Well, that's
true. Yeah, you have to show up now. And you
can always practice too. You can do it right
now if you go to if you go to KiwiSDR or if you
look up the Hammery of Cracks course's most recent
video on TD -OA. A really good station to test
that with is the WWV time signal since we all
know where that is. There's also several broadcast
stations on 40 meters around the US, the southern
part of the United States and I think there's
a couple in North Carolina or South Carolina,
one of the Carolinas, maybe Virginia over there,
that will serve as, and plenty in Europe too.
There's a lot of European QESTR stations. So
you can always practice and honing your skills
before prime time comes. I know another event
that we're going to have. I was just talking
with Audrey K and 4BUN last night about a doing
a balloon launch and she's got some stuff about
that and tracking it on APRS and we have some
other things we don't want to give everything
away here but these are the kinds of things that
we're having the kids have a chance to do and
again the kids are doing a lot of the presentation
of all of this stuff as we develop this program
And the camp, we want them involved even more
in the planning of this. That's coming later,
but a lot of that presentation is being done
by them. Well, we have some other things going
on. We also have a special event. We were going
to run W8Y all throughout the week of camp. We
are still going to do that. So you can work w8y
anytime between June 21st and June 26th which
is when we were supposed to be at camp and the
Young people who want to do this will take turns
operating as w8y from wherever they are So w8y
is going to be in many different locations. Just
not all at the same time So we will break up
that week into sections and different people
will be operating from different places and those
campers have the option to sign up for that and
then we'll make a schedule out. Marty in N1C
is actually going to make that schedule out and
figure that out. So we will have a special event
on and we'll have a QSL card that you can get.
We'll get QSLs printed up after the fact. and
get those sent out. So you can work our special
event station and again the campers get to operate
the special event station. Then we have a couple
of things for field day and we have the field
day club entry which is pretty easy and this
is for anyone who's 25 or under. We're giving
you the option of putting in youth on the air
as the club entry on your field day score. Now,
we'll talk more about this next week when Paul
Bork is here, but this year there's a couple
of rule changes for field day. Home stations,
Class D stations, can work other Class D stations.
Normally you couldn't do that, but because of
the pandemic that was a rule change. and then
also there's going to be a club entry so a lot
of clubs aren't going to have their you know
club gatherings so what you do is you work as
a home station and and everybody in the club
works as a home station and then you put in what
club you're with and there will be a combined
score for that club so what we're going to do
is we're going to combine all the youth scores
so you know You don't have to do this if you're
already working, if you're youth and you're already
working with another club and you want to put
yours into your local club, that's great. Not
a problem. But we are going to offer that option
of putting youth on the air in as your club option.
And we kind of just want to see, you know, you
know, how how many points we can get with all
the youth around the country. So we're going
to do that. Now, one thing about the special
event and the field day events is that you do
have to have a U .S. license. And so we've got
two or three of our people who aren't going to
be able to do this. We do have one in Mexico,
but he has a U .S. license, so he's okay. But
we do have, I think, three others that won't
be able to participate in these. Anyway, we'll
have that field day entry. So again, if you're
25 or under, put youth on the air in on your
club if you don't have another club. Or you just
want to do that if that's your preference and
put that into the club score. But then we're
also going to have a remote station available
for field day itself. We're going to run W8Y.
but from a remote and Jocelyn is the guy that
has set all this up. We were playing with it
here a couple of days ago and it's a really slick
setup. So Jocelyn tell us about operating field
day from a remote. Well thank you Neil and yeah
first going back so we decided We looked into
getting the remote or a remote possibility because
we understand that not all campers may have an
HF rig available to them. So as you said before,
if they want to run their own field day and they
want to use Youth on the Air as the club call,
perfect. We love it. It helps us out. But if
you do not have HF capabilities and you would
love to take part in field day, then we've got
this remote that was graciously provided by Jay,
it's Cosines K4 ZLE and he has a decent, well
it's better than my station, put it that way,
I believe this is the station, the remote we're
going to be using as a tri -bender beam, so 10,
15 and 20 at 70 feet, a 40 meter 2 element beam
and an 80 meter sloper. So those are not too
bad, you know, not bad for a remote station,
put it that way. So yeah, we install the software
and just to make things easy for everybody, we
all know that sometimes installing software on
different computers and things can get a little
quirky. Do you have a logging program? So to
alleviate a lot of the logistics, what we've
done is we're going to do a remote desktop. So
we've got a virtual server running all the software.
and what the campers that want to operate for
field days and field day remote will do is basically
log in at their scheduled time and then they'll
be able to pull up the interface and be able
to control the radio, control the rotator so
they can spin the beams around as needed and
make some QSOs. The logging software is already
there so they'll be able to log that and take
part in field day that way. I know it's going
to be a little bit more you know, hoops to jump
through in terms of you're trying to manage a
software radio and the logging software, so there
may be some switching between applications, but
it still gives you the possibility of getting
on field A and doing it, you know, with the special
call sign, Whiskey 8 Yankee. So that'll be interesting.
So we're looking forward to testing it out a
little further. I think the prelims that Neil
and I have done are pretty good. Looks like it's
promising and we'll just iron out all the small
details as they come along. Yeah, I'm really
excited about this and Jay is an accomplished
the expeditioner and he's got quite a set up
there. It may not be the the biggest contest
station on the planet, but he's got a nice setup
there, and we're very thankful for his support.
He was going to take care of our antennas at
the hotel for the physical camp, and so we'll
have him get that going next year, and we appreciate
his support with this remote. So we will have
W8Y on the air. for field day so that's another
thing that's coming up and then the other thing
is Yoda online and this is not we're not doing
this this is youngsters on the air which is the
original the one we're copying everything from
over in Europe and they have a monthly get -together
for an hour online and the next one is actually
going to be the day after our virtual Yoda day
so that's going to be on Thursday June 25th and
that's at 1800 UTC and you can check out ham
-yoda .com to check out Yoda online. So those
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-982 -7373. Well, that's a rundown of what's
going on here, and so we've got a lot of stuff
going on here in a couple of weeks. But we're
also working on finalizing the dates for Yoda
Camp 2021, and we're really looking forward to
that. So Sterling, what are your thoughts here
on the camp next year? I'm excited. I can't wait
even though I'm an old man relatively It's it's
given us a little bit more time to think think
everything through and get make it perfect and
it looks like most of our People are going to
come in and I think we have just another 365
days to to hype it up and get people more excited.
I have noticed like We've taken a breather because
I mean you've Like many people know I've been
going through a lot and and so it's it's been
pretty fortunate in one way But then you know
in another way, we're still really sad. It's
not happening right now, but I I can't wait for
it. I think it's gonna be a game -changer for
youth and ham radio for sure And it's gonna especially
on this side of the on this side of the pond
Yeah, I had a chance to to actually record a
little bit for Youngsters on the air they have
a presentation that's going to be on the virtual
version of ham radio Friedrichshafen and we talked
a little bit about that and So if you get a chance
you can you can check that out and watch it.
They're going to have a virtual event as well
since Friedrichshafen had to be cancelled, so
you can check that out. Jocelyn, your thoughts
on next year? Well, I think Sterling summarized
it pretty well. I think we're all excited for
next year. We're all kind of disappointed that,
you know, it's not in a few weeks. We're going
to have to wait a little longer. But as sterling
also mentioned, I think you're juggling a bunch
of stuff right now So I think you'll appreciate
the breather and it gives us more It gives us
more time to get everything set properly and
be ready to go for next year But yeah a little
bit of a letdown like a lot of people around
the country you know feed there are some unforeseen
events and we're gonna make best out of it and
Just gives us more time to get ready and and
knock it out of the park next year Yeah, there's
been a lot going on. The pandemic has caused
a lot of changes and a lot of roadblocks on things
that shouldn't have been that difficult. And
so, yeah, I actually am appreciative of a little
more time to spend on other things like moving
and getting married and that kind of thing. finding
a job, all that fun stuff. And we've had to move
the wedding, we've had to move the rehearsal,
it's just one thing after another. And so it
is kind of nice to have a little less going on
here in a couple of weeks. can spend some time
getting all of that put together. But really,
everything is in place. It's just a matter of
holding onto everything that we had planned and
holding onto all the stuff and making it work.
It is what it is. I'm so disappointed that we're
not doing this because it's something that...
we've all put tons and tons and tons of time
and effort into and a lot of people have graciously
donated to the cause and and we were just all
all excited and ready to go but but we'll we'll
make it and and it'll be a great event yep sterling
go ahead if i Cut you off. No, I was just gonna
say like there's there's it doesn't seem like
there's any we don't have any changes Everything
that was on schedule is still on the schedule
same hotel. The dates are in flux I think they're
those are gonna change from from year to year
I believe but in terms of you know Kings Island
and Dave and Buster's and the ARDF and all the
other activities the voice of American Museum
all of that still is in place. So just just in
a holding pattern. You're right. It is just a
just a holding pattern. Well if you have a question
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HamTalk Live. or if you're on Spreaker, leave
us a comment and we'll say good evening to Chris,
AA4CB, who is listening in live tonight, and
also Andy, good to... see you in here as well.
And we'll say hello to Philip. I noticed Philip
sent me a message on Telegram here over in Germany.
He is the public relations coordinator for youngsters
on the air. And so I couldn't respond to his
message. But hi, Philip, and thanks for listening.
And he said, great stuff. We're planning. So
that's good to hear from the people who started
this whole thing in the first place. So, Sterling,
you experienced that. You went over to Austria
along with Sam in 2016. I think there's a lot
of comparisons between that event and what we're
doing. Yeah, essentially the event over there
is a yearly summer camp. Lasts for seven days,
I think it's like six days when you're actually
on site. Everyone in each member society sends
their contingent. Ours is a little different
because our member societies are fewer. They
have many more smaller countries like we have
states, but we're also bringing in people from
South America, Central America, Mexico, Canada,
and inviting everyone to join in IRA region too.
But yeah, it's almost the same thing. I think
over in the... At least when I went in Austria,
there's this youth culture, there's this different
kind of mentality, I guess. We were at a youth
hostel. It was a really nice place, really like
extravagant almost. But we got to do a ton of
events and bringing radios everywhere we went.
Hike a mountain, soda. Go into an ice cave. ICOTA,
ice caves on the air, and do some like tunnel,
see how radio waves are affected inside caves.
They have ham mesh or ham net, which is they're
almost like completely envelops the whole country
of Austria and Germany and France, like the centroid
of Europe in mesh networking, got to play with
that. But over here in America, things are a
little different, but I think we're, like you
said, stealing their ideas and we're gonna try
to grow that kind of culture over here and create
this, you know, international sort of, what would
you say, fever for ham radio from the young people.
Yeah, you know, I know one of the concerns that
you and Sam brought up first was, you know, well,
we don't, you know, how do you stay at the museum?
Well, you can't. How do you do that? Well, we
got a hotel right across the street. Not too
far away. We had a little bit of changes that
we had to make. It was just a lot of the legalities
and insurance and all that kind of stuff. When
we asked about it, it was like, what? You have
to do all that? It was like, yeah, we have to
do all of that over here. So it was a lot more
red tape to go through. But we were finally able
to bust through it and make it go. Now, another
thing that we have accomplished is we worked
with the Youngsters on the Air program over in
Region 1, as well as in IARU Region 3, which
is Oceania. So that's New Zealand and Thailand,
Japan. Those are kind of the three big areas
of Yoda activity in Region 3 right now. But we
were able to do this December Yoda month. Jocelyn,
I know you were able to kind of see what was
going on with that, and I think there was some
activity in your basement from that. Do you want
to tell us a little bit about that? Yeah, yeah.
We had a bunch of youth around the U .S. that
signed up to basically move the call sign around
for Yoda Month, and my son, Chris, was one of
the operators, and I know he did it for a little
while, and I think all the operators basically
did as best as they could, and it was pretty
interesting. I think when people hear there's
a youth on the air, I think they gravitate. It's
kind of the, what is it, the plus 10 dB effect
that normally the ladies have. Same thing with
some of the younger kids. Now as he's growing
older, obviously his voice is changing, I remember
telling him a while back to enjoy that high -pitched
voice while he could, because he was like, I
don't know what your problem is not breaking
pile -up, it's easy. Now he's one of us. I think
it was a good success. I can't remember how many
operators we had, but we had a fair amount. I
think it was fun and everybody had a good time
doing it. Yeah, I think we had I want to say
a little over 20 operators maybe and Worldwide
it was over a hundred thousand cues. So it was
pretty impressive Yeah So those are some of the
things that are going on with youth on the air
and if you want to see more about that and read
up on that see some of the video and some of
the information, go to youthontheair .org and
that's where you'll find all that information.
We also try to keep a list of on -air activities
of anything that's going on in the Americas.
So in North, Central, South America, we're starting
to build that, getting information from from
all around the Western Hemisphere is a little
challenging, so we're a little slow in getting
that, but we're trying, and we're working away
at it, trying to add all of that. So if you're
aware of a youth program that's not listed there,
let us know, and we can get that added in. We're
not adding nets, because AWRL already has that,
so we have a link to them. any on -the -air activities
that has a youth component, we want to list that
so people can find it. And, you know, it's not
just about what we're doing with the camp and
with Yoda Month and with YARC and the youth contest
program, but it's also about making everyone
aware of other youth activities that are out
there. And so we want to get those listed as
well. Well, the clock is quickly turning and
we're just about out of time. So I will give
it out to four final thoughts here. So Sterling,
you want to go first? Sure. I have to give my
always shout out to the Young Amateurs Radio
Club. If they're listening, I sent a link in
there mentioning other you know, youth groups
out there. One of the largest ones right now
that I know about besides youngsters on the air
over in the EU is YARC, Young Amateurs Radio
Club. They have a Discord server and a couple
thousand people, you know, chilling and hanging
out. They occasionally create activities, had
a big rift in the community and then got all
settled back out again. And so eventually we'll
be seeing a lot more like... activities and contests
like we really want to do some more contest adjacent
like not create our own contest but have like
different categories and sub contests and ways
to get people who don't have HF radio that seems
to be like one of the biggest issues in youth
and ham radio is like HF radio is where it's
at so what if you don't have an HF radio well
you know get some options out there so But yeah,
I'm excited for 2021, and I'm excited for this
next couple of weeks from now, getting this online.
Everything's coming online. It's kind of like
the thing you say, like, we did all this work,
everything's coming online, but now it's like
literally, literally online. Yeah, I'm excited
to sit from the comfort of my cold office with
my air conditioner and instead of walking out
in the hot heat of the Ohio summer. Yeah, absolutely.
It is nice to be able to do that. Well, Jocelyn,
your final comments for tonight? Well, I think
as everybody has said, we're really looking forward
to all this effort for the online and seeing
it happen here very shortly. I think it'll be
fun for everybody. If anybody out there knows
of any youth that might be interested, please
pass the website along. turn them into this show
even as a podcast so they can kind of hear what
we're going to do. There's prizes that's usually
a good thing for kids and like I said it should
be good and getting ready for field day like
everybody I think this year we're going to run
it out of the house so anyways that Neil I'll
turn it back to you. All right, and we do want
to thank Heil Sound and DX engineering for donating
the prizes for our competition and our door prizes
and and a big thank you to R &L electronics for
Donating the grand prize, which is still a mystery.
I'm still not letting it out It's actually sitting
in my sight at the moment, but I'm not I'm not
telling anybody so it's here, so we're gonna
give that away and Again, tune in 7 45 p .m.
On Wednesday June 24th over on our YouTube channel
youth on the air and you will be able to Watch
that giveaway and and somebody's gonna be really
excited. I'll just say that so That's gonna be
a wrap For this week's edition of ham talk live.
Thanks to my guest sterling man in zero SSC and
Jocelyn broke 88 VRX and everybody out there
in cyberspace for listening and calling in and
we invite you back next thursday night 9 p .m
eastern time when paul bork in one sfe will be
here to take your questions about field day 2020
for a list of all of our upcoming guests you
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good DX be yours.