WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.620 This episode of HamTalk Live is brought to you 00:00:02.620 --> 00:00:06.000 by Tower Electronics. For connectors, cables, 00:00:06.240 --> 00:00:12.939 and more, call 920 -435 -2973 or visit pl -259 00:00:12.939 --> 00:00:17.620 .com. And by ICOM, heard it, worked it, logged 00:00:17.620 --> 00:00:22.839 it. Visit www .icomamerica .com slash amateur 00:00:22.839 --> 00:00:31.940 for more information about ICOM radios. Here 00:00:31.940 --> 00:00:37.920 we go Welcome to Hamtok Live Calling Let's Talk 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:43.439 Neil's your guy Hamtok Live Here we go on Hamtok 00:00:43.439 --> 00:01:00.359 Radio Hey goodies Good evening, everyone. It's 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:04.939 time for HamTalk Live episode number 228. New 00:01:04.939 --> 00:01:08.640 radio on the space station recorded live on Thursday, 00:01:08.859 --> 00:01:13.459 September 17, 2020. I'm your host, Neil Rapp, 00:01:13.640 --> 00:01:17.180 WB9 VPG. Thanks for tuning in to this episode 00:01:17.180 --> 00:01:21.200 of HamTalk Live. Tonight we're joined by Frank 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:27.439 Bauer, KA3 HDO, Lou McFadden, W5 DID. and Cary 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:31.959 Banke in six IZW and we'll take your calls live 00:01:31.959 --> 00:01:35.500 in a few minutes. Last week Andy and Tony Maluzzi 00:01:35.500 --> 00:01:38.319 were here to talk about the collegiate QSO party 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:41.980 that's taking place. this weekend. So if you 00:01:41.980 --> 00:01:44.519 missed that show, you can listen anytime over 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:47.939 ham talk live .com or on your favorite podcast 00:01:47.939 --> 00:01:51.760 app or on YouTube, or you can catch the rebroadcast 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:58.159 over on W T W W that's 50 85 a .m. And that's 00:01:58.159 --> 00:02:00.599 Saturday afternoons about three 30 p .m. Eastern 00:02:00.599 --> 00:02:03.239 time is when the rebroadcast runs over there. 00:02:03.629 --> 00:02:06.430 A couple of things here before we get started. 00:02:06.849 --> 00:02:10.050 There's a new QSO party coming out of the Nashua 00:02:10.050 --> 00:02:15.530 Area Radio Society on September 26th and 27th. 00:02:16.349 --> 00:02:18.509 And actually I'll have a story about that on 00:02:18.509 --> 00:02:22.189 the next edition of Newsline, which comes out 00:02:22.189 --> 00:02:26.129 actually late tonight or early in the morning. 00:02:27.100 --> 00:02:31.039 So you can hear more about it there. Check out 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:35.740 n1fd .org for all the information. It's a new 00:02:35.740 --> 00:02:38.419 event that NARS is putting on to get people on 00:02:38.419 --> 00:02:41.479 the air, especially beginning contesters. And 00:02:41.479 --> 00:02:46.439 it's September 26th at 0100 Zulu and runs through 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:52.939 September 27th at 2359 Zulu. Also, just in, Lloyd 00:02:52.939 --> 00:02:57.659 Colston, KC5FM wrote in that after many hours 00:02:57.659 --> 00:03:00.539 of monitoring, the Voice over IP weather net 00:03:00.539 --> 00:03:05.060 has secured along with WX4NHC at the National 00:03:05.060 --> 00:03:08.520 Hurricane Center. They had scores of reports 00:03:08.520 --> 00:03:12.360 submitted for Sally impacting the Gulf Coast 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:17.460 and Paulette impacting Bermuda. They report VP9NI 00:03:17.460 --> 00:03:23.550 in Bermuda. Said that the 146 .82 repeater was 00:03:23.550 --> 00:03:28.370 back in service with a broken antenna, so Bermuda 00:03:28.370 --> 00:03:32.870 got Got hit, but they're on the air at least 00:03:32.870 --> 00:03:35.569 and if you're interested in helping out the net 00:03:35.569 --> 00:03:44.169 visit voipwx .net or reach out to KD1CY And he's 00:03:44.169 --> 00:03:48.569 at katie1cyatarrl .net. Here's a little, here's 00:03:48.569 --> 00:03:51.169 a short little clip from the end of the the net 00:03:51.169 --> 00:03:54.930 here a couple days ago. You're very welcome Julio. 00:03:55.449 --> 00:03:58.870 We'll get it until she weakens to a tropical 00:03:58.870 --> 00:04:01.469 storm, which looks like sometime late tomorrow 00:04:01.469 --> 00:04:05.050 afternoon. And appreciate all the stations on 00:04:05.050 --> 00:04:06.990 here. This is exactly what we need to do for 00:04:06.990 --> 00:04:09.729 the Hurricane Center. Who knows, maybe some of 00:04:09.729 --> 00:04:12.129 the reports will eventually be used in the advisories, 00:04:12.389 --> 00:04:14.550 depending on what we get. So, appreciate everybody's 00:04:14.550 --> 00:04:20.629 support. KD1CY. Roger. That's the same thing 00:04:20.629 --> 00:04:23.009 we've been doing probably some time early tomorrow 00:04:23.009 --> 00:04:26.050 afternoon. All righty. Thank you, Rob. We'll 00:04:26.050 --> 00:04:28.389 be standing by. I may not be on this one. I've 00:04:28.389 --> 00:04:30.509 got a couple radials going and a couple computers 00:04:30.509 --> 00:04:32.910 going. I don't know what I mean. We'll talk to 00:04:32.910 --> 00:04:38.079 you later. WX4NHC. Okay, there you go. So yeah, 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:42.779 the next day they did end up Shutting down so 00:04:42.779 --> 00:04:47.240 things are calm for a little bit. But again VoIPWX 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:51.639 .net or KD1CYARRL .net by email if you want to 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:55.800 help out with that so Now we're switching back 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:59.540 to Eris, so we're going to talk about this new 00:04:59.540 --> 00:05:02.759 radio up on the International Space Station. 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:04.939 So get your questions ready to go. If you're 00:05:04.939 --> 00:05:07.420 listening to us live on Thursday night, you can 00:05:07.420 --> 00:05:10.800 give us a call after the interview by calling 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:13.180 us and then let me give you the telephone number 00:05:13.180 --> 00:05:15.740 so you have it ready to go. It's not time to 00:05:15.740 --> 00:05:18.620 call just yet, but let me give you the number 00:05:18.620 --> 00:05:36.470 so you have it ready. It's 859. You can also 00:05:36.470 --> 00:05:38.550 tweet us. We'll be watching Twitter tonight as 00:05:38.550 --> 00:05:41.310 always. It's at HamTalk Live on Twitter. If you're 00:05:41.310 --> 00:05:44.970 on Spreaker, you can type into the comments there 00:05:44.970 --> 00:05:48.069 and I'll be back with Frank, Lou, and Carrie 00:05:48.069 --> 00:05:50.310 right after this word from Tower Electronics 00:05:50.310 --> 00:05:56.060 right here on HamTalk Live. Jerry, what's up, 00:05:56.259 --> 00:05:58.980 man? I haven't seen you at Sunbucks in a while. 00:05:59.459 --> 00:06:01.459 I used to see you every morning getting coffee. 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:05.279 What's up? Well, I can't afford Sunbucks five 00:06:05.279 --> 00:06:07.980 days a week anymore. I had to spend my money 00:06:07.980 --> 00:06:11.639 on PL -259s. You know, those antenna projects 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:14.439 I've been meaning to do. I had to do them before 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:18.240 my HOA finds out I have antennas. That's too 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:20.740 bad, Jerry. I miss seeing you and catching up 00:06:20.740 --> 00:06:24.060 over coffee. You should get your PL -259s from 00:06:24.060 --> 00:06:31.040 Tower Electronics. They have great stuff. Jerry, 00:06:31.220 --> 00:06:35.360 you're back. Oh, QRM Heterodyne Frappuccino. 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:38.339 That's a good choice. How's it going? Did you 00:06:38.339 --> 00:06:41.160 get all those antennas up before the HOA police 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:44.639 showed up? Yeah, I got them all done. Thanks 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:47.180 for telling me about Tower Electronics. Now I 00:06:47.180 --> 00:06:50.069 can have my coffee. I just saved a bunch of money 00:06:50.069 --> 00:06:53.769 on my PL259s by switching to Tower Electronics. 00:06:54.129 --> 00:06:57.250 Don't get caught without PL259s. Visit Tower 00:06:57.250 --> 00:07:01.970 Electronics online at pl -259 .com or at a ham 00:07:01.970 --> 00:07:06.029 fest near you or give them a call at 920 -435 00:07:06.029 --> 00:07:09.569 -2973 and be sure to pick up some power poles, 00:07:09.790 --> 00:07:14.009 adapters and cables too. Sorry for the delay. 00:07:14.269 --> 00:07:17.410 Your host, Neil Rapp, is reading a book on anti 00:07:17.410 --> 00:07:20.670 -gravity. and he just can't put it down. Now 00:07:20.670 --> 00:07:43.889 here's more HamTalk Live. Welcome back to HamTalk 00:07:43.889 --> 00:07:47.069 Live thanks to Scott and Jill at Tower Electronics. 00:07:47.529 --> 00:07:50.029 For sponsoring the show tonight to help bring 00:07:50.029 --> 00:07:52.930 you ham talk live and you can visit them anytime 00:07:52.930 --> 00:08:02.290 at PL -259 .com Our guest tonight returning is 00:08:02.290 --> 00:08:05.689 Frank Bauer, KA -3 HDO He's been licensed since 00:08:05.689 --> 00:08:10.129 1974 in 1983 in preparation for the first ever 00:08:10.129 --> 00:08:13.589 ham radio operation from space He was responsible 00:08:13.589 --> 00:08:16.610 for setting up and operating the worldwide retransmission 00:08:16.910 --> 00:08:19.230 of space shuttle air -to -ground communications 00:08:19.230 --> 00:08:21.589 from the Goddard Amateur Radio Club station, 00:08:21.810 --> 00:08:26.389 WA3NAN. This initiative provided a critical conduit 00:08:26.389 --> 00:08:29.029 of information to Hams attempting to contact 00:08:29.029 --> 00:08:32.629 astronaut Hams in the pre -internet era. Frank 00:08:32.629 --> 00:08:35.309 now serves as the amateur radio on the International 00:08:35.309 --> 00:08:38.230 Space Station International Chairman. He holds 00:08:38.230 --> 00:08:41.450 bachelor's and master's degrees in aeronautics 00:08:41.450 --> 00:08:45.409 and astronautics. from Purdue University up the 00:08:45.409 --> 00:08:48.889 road here and his career in aerospace spans four 00:08:48.889 --> 00:08:52.330 decades within NASA and private industry and 00:08:52.330 --> 00:08:56.409 he is the 2017 Dayton Hamvention amateur of the 00:08:56.409 --> 00:08:59.669 year. Also joining us tonight for the first time, 00:08:59.870 --> 00:09:04.350 Lou McFadden, W -5 DID, he is the 1991 Hamvention 00:09:04.350 --> 00:09:07.590 Technical Achievement Award winner and has been 00:09:07.590 --> 00:09:10.970 involved in all of the human spaceflight hardware 00:09:10.970 --> 00:09:14.289 developments going all the way back to Owen Garriott's 00:09:14.289 --> 00:09:18.769 flight. He was the lead on AO -40 and the Eris 00:09:18.769 --> 00:09:21.629 Next Generation Interoperable radio station that 00:09:21.629 --> 00:09:26.710 we'll be talking about. Cary Bankey, N6IZW, was 00:09:26.710 --> 00:09:31.769 the lead designer and manufacturer of the multi 00:09:31.769 --> 00:09:34.889 -voltage power supply. He has built five of those 00:09:34.889 --> 00:09:38.230 so far and he is a microwave engineering expert 00:09:38.230 --> 00:09:41.850 retired from Qualcomm. He has supported Eris 00:09:41.850 --> 00:09:45.850 and Sarex back in the day, starting as one of 00:09:45.850 --> 00:09:50.490 the Sarex ground stations in the early 1990s. 00:09:50.490 --> 00:09:54.299 So we've got Quite the space experts on here 00:09:54.299 --> 00:09:58.259 tonight. So, Frank, Lou, Kerry, welcome to HamTalk 00:09:58.259 --> 00:10:04.919 Live tonight. Thank you, Neil. Thanks. I'm glad 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:12.620 to be here, Mr. Lou. We're ready to answer any 00:10:12.620 --> 00:10:20.330 tough questions. The first the first ones are 00:10:20.330 --> 00:10:22.850 the easy ones because you get them ahead of time 00:10:22.850 --> 00:10:29.090 so We'll throw you a few softballs first so we've 00:10:29.090 --> 00:10:31.629 talked about this new radio system on this show 00:10:31.629 --> 00:10:35.110 for quite a while and and tried to drum up some 00:10:35.110 --> 00:10:38.990 financial support and It finally was launched 00:10:38.990 --> 00:10:42.289 a few months ago, and now it's finally up and 00:10:42.289 --> 00:10:45.919 operational so frank tell us a little bit about 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:49.179 the current status of the radio and and how people 00:10:49.179 --> 00:10:53.840 can use it down here on earth sure uh... first 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:56.159 off neil i want to thank you for the opportunities 00:10:56.159 --> 00:10:59.980 to uh... to bring the heiress program in particular 00:10:59.980 --> 00:11:03.000 this next generation radio to uh... to your audiences 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:07.919 over several opportunities and also to uh... 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:10.200 a drum up some financial support which we always 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:13.139 are in need of an heiress But let me just say 00:11:13.139 --> 00:11:19.559 that we are so excited because on September 2nd 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:23.360 we finally got the radio system turned on. People 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:26.120 are using it right now in voice repeater mode. 00:11:26.820 --> 00:11:31.700 And we actually did our first school contact 00:11:31.700 --> 00:11:34.820 with it in France last week. And we've got another 00:11:34.820 --> 00:11:39.440 one coming up in Spain tomorrow. So it's working 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:42.919 out. uh, exactly the way we would have expected. 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:46.179 And, uh, we're so excited to have it operational 00:11:46.179 --> 00:11:51.360 now. Yeah. Now, you know, it's, it's taken a 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:55.240 while to get this fundraised and built and designed 00:11:55.240 --> 00:12:00.100 and, and everything, but it took a while, you 00:12:00.100 --> 00:12:01.980 know, it's been sitting up there for a while. 00:12:02.379 --> 00:12:06.899 So I don't know if everybody realizes the whole 00:12:06.899 --> 00:12:12.710 process of Not only getting this radio up there 00:12:12.710 --> 00:12:17.629 and calibrated and programmed and ready to go, 00:12:18.350 --> 00:12:22.750 but also just getting it once it's up there into 00:12:22.750 --> 00:12:26.809 being operational. And that's kind of what you've, 00:12:26.809 --> 00:12:30.009 I know you've been waiting on. You're just like 00:12:30.009 --> 00:12:33.250 any day now, any day now, any day now. And it 00:12:33.250 --> 00:12:35.289 finally happened. So tell everybody a little 00:12:35.289 --> 00:12:40.179 bit about. The whole drama of trying to get this 00:12:40.179 --> 00:12:43.460 thing turned on. Yeah, I think what I'd like 00:12:43.460 --> 00:12:46.840 to do is I'll say a couple of words and then 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:50.679 I'd like Lou and Kerry to give their impressions 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:55.080 of hearing it on the air the first times. I will 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:59.679 say it took a while, primarily for two reasons. 00:12:59.779 --> 00:13:03.000 One is that we still had some paperwork that 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:05.919 needed to be work through. We thought we had 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:08.480 everything done and then there were some little 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:12.440 items that got brought up from an operations 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:15.120 perspective, some procedures that needed to be 00:13:15.120 --> 00:13:18.740 tweaked a little bit. And then the other part 00:13:18.740 --> 00:13:23.000 is the crew availability. Chris Cassidy is doing 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:30.120 a great job with Eris in his expedition. He was 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:32.960 the only one up there for a while and and actually 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:39.320 the that the two folks that came up on the the 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:44.279 SpaceX flight Doug Hurley and Bob Bank and they 00:13:44.279 --> 00:13:46.200 were up there and they were focused on a whole 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:50.720 bunch of EVAs they did so and and during those 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:57.169 EVAs Chris was engaged in that to Chris Cassidy 00:13:57.169 --> 00:14:00.210 was engaged in that so and you think about if 00:14:00.210 --> 00:14:03.529 you have a house and you got 300 Experiments 00:14:03.529 --> 00:14:06.250 you're trying to do all at the same time plus 00:14:06.250 --> 00:14:10.370 the ham radio You know, there's there's priorities 00:14:10.370 --> 00:14:13.769 and there's you know times when we have the opportunity 00:14:13.769 --> 00:14:15.950 It just took a little while for getting some 00:14:15.950 --> 00:14:18.590 of the paperwork done and getting getting the 00:14:18.590 --> 00:14:21.899 equipment set up And so let me let me turn it 00:14:21.899 --> 00:14:24.279 over to Lou and give his first impressions of 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:26.940 the radio system and then Kerry because Kerry 00:14:26.940 --> 00:14:32.000 got to operate it early, too Well, we're we're 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:35.919 very happy to have this thing up there and operating 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:41.100 and we're I'm not feeling it this is a combination 00:14:41.100 --> 00:14:45.500 of many years of Thinking about it and wishing 00:14:45.500 --> 00:14:48.679 we could have it done and many people saying 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:51.480 Why don't you do this? Why don't you do that? 00:14:51.860 --> 00:14:55.039 And we've been doing the why nots and they're 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:58.240 working on these things. It just takes a really 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:02.139 long time. And there's safety aspect is such 00:15:02.139 --> 00:15:07.080 a big part of it and making sure that it's going 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:13.059 to work for a long time. Think of the power, 00:15:13.179 --> 00:15:16.179 like a little power supply that you buy from 00:15:17.099 --> 00:15:19.960 one of these companies that sell them for around 00:15:19.960 --> 00:15:24.580 a hundred bucks and you put that on orbit and 00:15:24.580 --> 00:15:29.600 At $10 ,000 a pound to go up there. You're not 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:33.080 going to use the cheap components. You're not 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:35.740 going to take any shortcuts Because you're not 00:15:35.740 --> 00:15:37.840 going to have a second chance you better make 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:41.679 sure it's right and that's That's what all the 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:46.080 paperwork was really about I think Making sure 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:51.220 it's right and safe. Terry? Yeah, well, you know, 00:15:51.220 --> 00:15:53.360 we've been working on this thing since I think 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:58.220 it started back in about 2015 and for me as the 00:15:58.220 --> 00:16:03.340 lead designer, I think the biggest challenge 00:16:03.340 --> 00:16:07.399 was being able to fully understand all of the 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:11.000 NASA requirements. There are so many. I mean, 00:16:11.139 --> 00:16:14.610 there are basically thousands of pages. of documents. 00:16:14.730 --> 00:16:16.750 I mean, you'll have a 700 page document that 00:16:16.750 --> 00:16:20.429 refers to other 100 page documents that have 00:16:20.429 --> 00:16:22.629 to be understood so that you know that you're 00:16:22.629 --> 00:16:25.450 going to meet their requirements and go through 00:16:25.450 --> 00:16:30.029 their rigorous testing and meet their protocol. 00:16:33.409 --> 00:16:38.210 Yeah, the red tape is always a challenge. Yeah, 00:16:38.389 --> 00:16:41.129 but it's necessary for this. I mean, realistically, 00:16:41.370 --> 00:16:44.690 we, you know, We can get frustrated, and the 00:16:44.690 --> 00:16:49.649 three of us have at times, but we know that it's 00:16:49.649 --> 00:16:54.809 for the good of, you know, our program, and it's 00:16:54.809 --> 00:16:57.629 for the good of the astronauts on board. They're 00:16:57.629 --> 00:17:00.450 valued resources. Space Station is a very valued 00:17:00.450 --> 00:17:02.710 resource. We want to make sure it's safe, as 00:17:02.710 --> 00:17:07.650 Lou said. You know, I've never heard any of our 00:17:07.650 --> 00:17:10.950 teams say, this is too much trouble, let's quit. 00:17:11.849 --> 00:17:19.490 Not one. That's something that's desperately 00:17:19.490 --> 00:17:24.930 needed for a project like this. It takes tremendous 00:17:24.930 --> 00:17:27.150 dedication. I mean, we had an amazing team from 00:17:27.150 --> 00:17:32.490 that perspective being dedicated. Kerry, we've 00:17:32.490 --> 00:17:35.630 talked about this power supply a little bit before, 00:17:35.890 --> 00:17:39.930 but... Since you're here with us live here tonight, 00:17:40.009 --> 00:17:43.990 talk a little bit about why this power supply 00:17:43.990 --> 00:17:47.970 took such a long time to figure out and put together 00:17:47.970 --> 00:17:51.309 and why you can't just, like you said, run down 00:17:51.309 --> 00:17:55.009 to the store and grab a power supply and throw 00:17:55.009 --> 00:17:59.890 it up there. Well, again, as Lou and others said 00:17:59.890 --> 00:18:07.000 there, it's all about safety. defined requirements 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:10.240 for safety for the space station itself as well 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:15.759 as the crew and So as I say you have to you know 00:18:15.759 --> 00:18:17.960 be able to fully understand these requirements 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:22.299 and You know figure out how to meet them this 00:18:22.299 --> 00:18:24.660 power supply You know, it's not just plugging 00:18:24.660 --> 00:18:27.660 to 120 volt AC as you might have on earth here 00:18:27.660 --> 00:18:30.680 with ham stations or 12 volts DC from that matter, 00:18:30.700 --> 00:18:37.109 but it's it's 120 volt DC or 28 volt DC and then 00:18:37.109 --> 00:18:42.309 and the power on the space station is Can have 00:18:42.309 --> 00:18:44.809 some interesting fluctuations because of those 00:18:44.809 --> 00:18:47.809 300 experiments going on that Frank mentioned 00:18:47.809 --> 00:18:50.309 if something happens one of those other experiments 00:18:50.309 --> 00:18:56.009 You may have a real terrific transient or perturbation 00:18:56.009 --> 00:18:59.309 on that power system that you have to be able 00:18:59.309 --> 00:19:06.450 to accommodate and recover from. So that's really 00:19:06.450 --> 00:19:09.809 what takes such a long time is again making sure 00:19:09.809 --> 00:19:13.410 that all the T's are crossed and the I's are 00:19:13.410 --> 00:19:17.630 dotted that the safety that's required by NASA 00:19:17.630 --> 00:19:23.349 is built in. And making sure that all the connectors 00:19:23.349 --> 00:19:27.059 are compatible and you've got different voltage 00:19:27.059 --> 00:19:29.339 supplies depending on where you're at on the 00:19:29.339 --> 00:19:32.680 station and and that's what I saw is the beauty 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:36.480 of this is that It'll work under any of those 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:43.519 different conditions Yeah, and the thing is here 00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:48.859 that guide loop I was going to ask Kerry to tell 00:19:48.859 --> 00:19:53.960 what kind of voltage is pulses the 120 volt input 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:58.700 had to withstand Well, that's right. I mean it 00:19:58.700 --> 00:20:02.279 at 120 volt input it has to withstand a positive 00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:07.279 but 370 volts and a negative 270 something like 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:11.480 that and the 20 and running on 28. It's similar, 00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:16.559 you know similar Voltage proportionally on 28. 00:20:16.599 --> 00:20:20.720 So it's not you know, not just a nice clean supply 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:24.099 like your Like you might have on your workbench 00:20:26.389 --> 00:20:32.329 And I had to work in the Russian segment Right 00:20:32.329 --> 00:20:37.069 and do do the other voltage there Lou talk a 00:20:37.069 --> 00:20:40.549 little bit about the the radio to You know, it 00:20:40.549 --> 00:20:43.269 is a radio off the shelf But there's been an 00:20:43.269 --> 00:20:47.549 awful lot of stuff done to it to modify it to 00:20:47.549 --> 00:20:53.769 to serve on the space station Well, it's mostly 00:20:53.769 --> 00:20:57.799 most of the modifications are to make it so that 00:20:57.799 --> 00:21:02.480 it's more user -friendly for the crew. And so 00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:06.359 that, for example, on your car radio, if you 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:09.460 have it in your car, you're talking to one of 00:21:09.460 --> 00:21:12.200 your buddies, you flip, turn it around to serve 00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:14.740 repeater, and you're just having a grand old 00:21:14.740 --> 00:21:17.680 time. And then you get home, you turn off your 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:21.920 car, and you get out and leave it. And then it's... 00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:23.980 When you get back in your car and turn it on, 00:21:24.200 --> 00:21:27.819 it's still on that station. That's one of the 00:21:27.819 --> 00:21:31.759 things we didn't want to happen. We wanted to 00:21:31.759 --> 00:21:37.019 come back to a standard position, a standard 00:21:37.019 --> 00:21:41.619 configuration, when we reset it. So that if the 00:21:41.619 --> 00:21:44.799 crew is using it and they forget what they've 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:47.480 done, you have another crewman come to use it, 00:21:47.660 --> 00:21:49.839 you want to be able to tell them to do this reset 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:53.140 and then you know, exactly what steps they need 00:21:53.140 --> 00:21:58.460 to take to do whatever you ask them to do. It's 00:21:58.460 --> 00:22:05.740 like looking at the world in a different way. 00:22:08.039 --> 00:22:16.539 Go ahead. I think the other things are some of 00:22:16.539 --> 00:22:21.900 the aspects of like for voice repeater, having 00:22:21.900 --> 00:22:25.259 a high -powered fan. We want to have this higher 00:22:25.259 --> 00:22:29.039 power fan on there, if you will, to get the air 00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:32.700 flow through, but then we also have to not be 00:22:32.700 --> 00:22:35.220 too noisy on Space Station. So, you know, there's 00:22:35.220 --> 00:22:38.259 these engineering trades that you have to do 00:22:38.259 --> 00:22:42.259 as part of the design process that, you know, 00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:45.420 several individuals like Ed Chrome and Carrie 00:22:45.420 --> 00:22:49.480 and Lou were engaged in to try to make sure that 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:53.519 Um, we met, you know, we were able to have something 00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:57.900 that would be quiet and also, uh, support, uh, 00:22:57.900 --> 00:23:02.319 continuous operations, if you will. Yeah. And 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:05.539 continuous operations is always the challenge 00:23:05.539 --> 00:23:08.740 too. And, and from the sounds of things, it's 00:23:08.740 --> 00:23:15.059 getting used pretty well right now. That's very 00:23:15.059 --> 00:23:20.329 true. I'm just saying we're very happy to see 00:23:20.329 --> 00:23:25.849 him using it, or it wasn't used much. Yeah, I 00:23:25.849 --> 00:23:30.890 think, you know, basically, Neil, you were talking 00:23:30.890 --> 00:23:34.369 about, you know, how we're planning on using 00:23:34.369 --> 00:23:36.869 it or how we're using it. You know, right now 00:23:36.869 --> 00:23:41.609 it's in repeater mode, voice repeater mode. One 00:23:41.609 --> 00:23:45.069 of the challenges that goes along with that is 00:23:45.069 --> 00:23:53.660 it's FM. And anybody that has heard any communication 00:23:53.660 --> 00:23:57.000 up to Space Station, when a whole bunch of people 00:23:57.000 --> 00:24:00.500 are trying to use it in the capture effect, you'll 00:24:00.500 --> 00:24:03.859 get bits and pieces of people's signals. So we're 00:24:03.859 --> 00:24:08.539 actually hoping people don't use real high -power 00:24:08.539 --> 00:24:13.180 operations, but we know that... You can use this 00:24:13.180 --> 00:24:15.200 equipment with just, you know, five watts in 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:19.839 an aero antenna, you know, especially at three 00:24:19.839 --> 00:24:21.140 o 'clock in the morning when there aren't as 00:24:21.140 --> 00:24:26.960 many people there. That's the key, I think. Exactly. 00:24:28.980 --> 00:24:32.440 We're experiencing some of that. I don't see 00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:37.890 any way to avoid that. Yeah, that's a challenge 00:24:37.890 --> 00:24:43.349 on on any kind of satellite up there it's Just 00:24:43.349 --> 00:24:46.769 a lot of people trying and and it's it is a whole 00:24:46.769 --> 00:24:50.410 lot of fun to hear all the people there Well 00:24:50.410 --> 00:24:54.410 before we go to break Frank talk a little bit 00:24:54.410 --> 00:24:58.369 about what we can expect from this system over 00:24:58.369 --> 00:25:03.799 the next decade. Oh That's a long ball Well, 00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:06.779 let me start with the fact that where we're at 00:25:06.779 --> 00:25:09.519 now, which is, you know, we're going to operate 00:25:09.519 --> 00:25:12.200 this on Voice Repeater for a few weeks and then 00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:18.279 probably APRS. But Kerry and JBC Kenwood, who 00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:24.779 built the radio systems, we've got now the flight 00:25:24.779 --> 00:25:28.380 unit, a second flight unit that is going to go 00:25:28.380 --> 00:25:31.240 on space station and we will be launching that 00:25:31.240 --> 00:25:35.059 whenever it's delayed because of covid but we're 00:25:35.059 --> 00:25:38.200 hoping to launch that and get it into the russian 00:25:38.200 --> 00:25:42.559 service module once we get that then we can operate 00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:45.940 um two capabilities at the same time in other 00:25:45.940 --> 00:25:48.240 words we could have we could have aprs running 00:25:48.240 --> 00:25:51.339 all the time and then voice repeater or slow 00:25:51.339 --> 00:25:54.819 scan television or something else so the idea 00:25:54.819 --> 00:25:57.680 is you know, we want to have multiple capabilities 00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:01.099 for the hams. Let me also say that, you know, 00:26:01.140 --> 00:26:05.160 if a crew member decides to talk, it doesn't 00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:07.660 happen that often, we all know that, but if they 00:26:07.660 --> 00:26:10.119 do, they can pick up the microphone through the 00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:13.220 voice repeater and talk through that too. So 00:26:13.220 --> 00:26:18.700 we're going to have those capabilities. We are, 00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:21.460 this multi -voltage power supply is going to 00:26:21.460 --> 00:26:24.140 provide a lot of different capabilities for us 00:26:24.140 --> 00:26:27.140 for the future. So one of the things we're looking 00:26:27.140 --> 00:26:29.559 at, one of the things Lou's working on right 00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:36.920 now is an L -band repeater capability, L -band 00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:39.920 uplink capability. Since we have L and S -band 00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:44.720 antennas, we're going to get our connected into 00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:50.180 this next generation radio system. Our ham TV 00:26:50.180 --> 00:26:54.380 back up again, hopefully soon. That's being delayed 00:26:54.380 --> 00:26:58.759 because of COVID. Unfortunately, we also are 00:26:58.759 --> 00:27:02.240 building other systems are designing other systems. 00:27:02.259 --> 00:27:05.960 I should say we're talking about flying a Raspberry 00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:09.740 Pi. We call it an heiress pie, which will provide 00:27:09.740 --> 00:27:15.000 us an opportunity to to to do some mode switching 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:18.789 from the ground and then also some. operations 00:27:18.789 --> 00:27:21.750 using it and some software -defined radio systems. 00:27:22.630 --> 00:27:27.289 So, and then, you know, we are talking about, 00:27:28.089 --> 00:27:31.529 you know, we've talked about this lunar gateway 00:27:31.529 --> 00:27:35.730 activity, but before we fly that, we want to 00:27:35.730 --> 00:27:38.670 test that out and we want to do that on space 00:27:38.670 --> 00:27:41.950 station. So, might be different frequencies than 00:27:41.950 --> 00:27:46.299 we use for lunar, but Uh, we want to try the 00:27:46.299 --> 00:27:49.119 software to find radio systems that we're, uh, 00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:52.119 discussing that will be multi -mode capability, 00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:58.660 uh, for telemetry, for, um, television, slow 00:27:58.660 --> 00:28:02.839 scan television and other things like that. That 00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:07.819 answer to mail. Yeah, absolutely. Well, we're 00:28:07.819 --> 00:28:09.779 going to take a break right now. 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Or, if you'd 00:30:12.819 --> 00:30:16.079 rather type than talk, tweet us at HamTalk Live. 00:30:16.460 --> 00:30:19.960 Now, here's Neil Rapp with more HamTalk Live. 00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:31.039 You're listening to Ham Talk Live with Neil Rapp. 00:30:45.660 --> 00:30:49.640 Welcome back to Ham Talk Live. Thanks to Icom 00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:52.200 America for sponsoring the show. Check them out 00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:59.470 at icomamerica .com. Check out HamTalk Live every 00:30:59.470 --> 00:31:02.450 Thursday night at 9 p .m. Eastern Time right 00:31:02.450 --> 00:31:05.109 here at HamTalkLive .com. Be sure to check us 00:31:05.109 --> 00:31:09.009 out on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram as well. 00:31:10.089 --> 00:31:12.630 Well, it's time for your phone calls right now. 00:31:12.650 --> 00:31:16.130 So if you have a question for Frank, Lou, and 00:31:16.130 --> 00:31:19.589 Kerry, give us a call. Again, that number is 00:31:19.589 --> 00:31:27.440 859 -982. to 7373 or you can tweet us. It's at 00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:30.880 ham talk live over on Twitter. And if you're 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.700 on speaker, you can type a comment. And if you're 00:31:33.700 --> 00:31:37.559 listening to us on WTWW or the podcast edition, 00:31:37.900 --> 00:31:41.319 we're not here. We're doing this on Thursday 00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:45.140 night. So, uh, sorry. You won't be able to, uh, 00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:49.809 to ask your questions, but, um, if you are listening 00:31:49.809 --> 00:31:52.029 to us live on Thursday night, give us a call 00:31:52.029 --> 00:32:02.069 at 859 -982 -7373. Okay, well, we'll check the 00:32:02.069 --> 00:32:06.509 tweets here and wait for some phone calls, but 00:32:06.509 --> 00:32:11.009 Frank, let's talk a little bit about the funding 00:32:11.009 --> 00:32:17.339 and support on this. Where are things on? Having 00:32:17.339 --> 00:32:22.059 all this stuff paid for and then going and keep 00:32:22.059 --> 00:32:26.440 it going Yeah, I think first off again, I want 00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:30.819 to thank everyone out there that have generous 00:32:30.819 --> 00:32:34.559 generously donated to The earth's program and 00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.740 in particular the next generation radio systems 00:32:37.740 --> 00:32:42.240 We are you know While we're talking about the 00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:45.359 flight units, we are not done building these 00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:49.779 systems. I mean, Lou, in his garage, and Kerry, 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:55.579 and his laboratory there, they've got a bunch 00:32:55.579 --> 00:32:59.900 of other systems. Lou's got a bunch of cables 00:32:59.900 --> 00:33:05.200 we still need to fabricate, procure, and Kerry's 00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:08.599 gotten five of the units done. We still have... 00:33:09.870 --> 00:33:14.309 Six more to go, actually. We need additional 00:33:14.309 --> 00:33:20.349 units for training, for simulations, as well 00:33:20.349 --> 00:33:25.089 as for testing. And these units have to go in 00:33:25.089 --> 00:33:27.150 different parts of the world, too. So that's 00:33:27.150 --> 00:33:30.569 why there's so many of them that we need. And 00:33:30.569 --> 00:33:34.359 this is normal. when we build something so So 00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:36.740 we are not done yet. It might look like because 00:33:36.740 --> 00:33:39.220 we've got a radio on board that we're done. We've 00:33:39.220 --> 00:33:42.200 got Two we want to have on orbit and we need 00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:44.940 the other ones to support the the infrastructure 00:33:44.940 --> 00:33:48.440 for the next few years So any help we can get 00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:50.460 there. We are always looking for it You can go 00:33:50.460 --> 00:33:52.859 to the Eris website, of course, and there's a 00:33:52.859 --> 00:33:57.759 donate button there All right, very good eight 00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:00.200 five nine nine eight two seventy three seventy 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:03.640 three Is the phone number if you'd like to call 00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:06.079 in and ask a question or leave a comment here 00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:11.579 for our guests tonight Frank Bauer Ka3 HDO and 00:34:11.579 --> 00:34:16.000 Lou McFadden w5d ID and Carrie Banky in the six 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:19.539 I Zed W that some of the folks are responsible 00:34:19.539 --> 00:34:26.590 for the New radio system on the International 00:34:26.590 --> 00:34:31.409 Space Station. Guys, what have you heard so far 00:34:31.409 --> 00:34:36.070 as far as comments from people in the last couple 00:34:36.070 --> 00:34:38.550 of weeks here that have been able to use this 00:34:38.550 --> 00:34:48.510 thing? What have you been hearing? I'll just 00:34:48.510 --> 00:34:53.239 say what I know. Most people are saying that 00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:57.840 it's working great. Some people are excited because 00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:03.260 they've experienced this phenomenon called FM 00:35:03.260 --> 00:35:06.900 capture, but that's not something we can fix. 00:35:07.820 --> 00:35:10.860 But people will have to learn to be a little 00:35:10.860 --> 00:35:15.159 more polite and considerate when they're talking, 00:35:15.300 --> 00:35:18.440 wait for somebody drops out before they start 00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:22.090 talking again, like they do on the ground. We 00:35:22.090 --> 00:35:25.369 try to be very careful. But other than that, 00:35:25.429 --> 00:35:29.010 it's working great. One of our prime objectives 00:35:29.010 --> 00:35:32.630 was to be able to run it continuously and do 00:35:32.630 --> 00:35:36.090 this crossband repeat, which we could not do 00:35:36.090 --> 00:35:39.590 earlier. And this one works perfect doing that. 00:35:40.429 --> 00:35:48.780 So I think it's working great. Yeah, it's a it's 00:35:48.780 --> 00:35:51.579 a what what I would say to Neil is that this 00:35:51.579 --> 00:35:56.559 is a cap off of you know This November and Lou 00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:58.360 Lou remembers this very well because we were 00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:02.179 together when this happened this November November 00:36:02.179 --> 00:36:07.059 13th represents the 20th anniversary of operations 00:36:07.059 --> 00:36:11.320 on the International Space Station With Eris 00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:16.380 or ISSM as it's sometimes called And so we've 00:36:16.380 --> 00:36:18.940 been operating you know, as of November, we're 00:36:18.940 --> 00:36:20.880 going to be celebrating our 20th anniversary 00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:24.300 of continuous operations. So having this on board 00:36:24.300 --> 00:36:31.880 for that is wonderful. Yeah, very well done. 00:36:32.219 --> 00:36:39.579 And it's just amazing how well you can hear from 00:36:39.579 --> 00:36:44.900 up there. It's just incredible. I can't wait 00:36:44.900 --> 00:36:50.280 to try out the packet. I've got my new handheld 00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:54.159 that does all that packet stuff and I'm chomping 00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:58.940 at the bit to try it out. So I'm ready for that 00:36:58.940 --> 00:37:04.179 APRS mode here. You talked a little bit about, 00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:08.119 oh I'm sorry, Kerry did you have any comments, 00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:11.679 you know, anything from people that have been 00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:17.389 using this? Oh, you know, it's primarily when 00:37:17.389 --> 00:37:20.670 I've just been listening in myself here, being 00:37:20.670 --> 00:37:24.610 on the West Coast and right near the ocean, I'm 00:37:24.610 --> 00:37:26.869 kind of fortunate that I can either be the first 00:37:26.869 --> 00:37:29.409 or the last sometimes in some of these passes. 00:37:30.269 --> 00:37:36.750 But, boy, it's busy, it's clear, and a lot of 00:37:36.750 --> 00:37:40.730 what I hear are people will announce their... 00:37:41.219 --> 00:37:44.300 Call sign with the grid square and then let it 00:37:44.300 --> 00:37:46.079 go and let somebody else do it So that's kind 00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:48.159 of what I'm hearing a lot from a report sort 00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:52.199 of a reporting Standpoint, but it seems to be 00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:57.800 working nicely Now Frank, I know you've talked 00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:00.780 about this lunar gateway a little bit and so, 00:38:00.780 --> 00:38:04.059 you know the next question is what's next and 00:38:04.059 --> 00:38:07.860 you've answered a lot of that but You know once 00:38:07.860 --> 00:38:10.820 once you get all these built all these power 00:38:10.820 --> 00:38:13.800 supplies built for the training and and some 00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:19.099 backups and a second station up there What what's 00:38:19.099 --> 00:38:23.599 on the radar next? Well, we're kind of working 00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:28.840 this i'll say this simultaneously um We're we're 00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:31.659 looking at you know this raspberry pi capability 00:38:31.659 --> 00:38:36.880 because um We can use that to actually do commanding 00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:40.420 and then we Then we're in a situation where we're 00:38:40.420 --> 00:38:43.420 almost like a satellite I mean space station 00:38:43.420 --> 00:38:46.380 is a satellite but we've been relying on the 00:38:46.380 --> 00:38:49.880 crew to operate us all the time and Change modes 00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:53.099 and things like that Well, you know, I mentioned 00:38:53.099 --> 00:38:55.820 there's like 300 different experiments on board. 00:38:55.840 --> 00:39:00.860 So us Right now and you talked about a PRS right 00:39:00.860 --> 00:39:04.090 now. I think our The way we're going to do this 00:39:04.090 --> 00:39:08.630 is on a periodic basis after the school contact 00:39:08.630 --> 00:39:11.449 is over, we're going to do the mode switch because 00:39:11.449 --> 00:39:15.269 the crew will be there. It'll be a quick changeover. 00:39:16.170 --> 00:39:19.090 So those are the times I'd say for those that 00:39:19.090 --> 00:39:22.690 are interested in looking at different things. 00:39:23.789 --> 00:39:26.730 At the end of a school contact might be the opportunity 00:39:26.730 --> 00:39:30.269 where you might see a mode change happen. So 00:39:30.269 --> 00:39:33.510 you can kind of track that as to when you want 00:39:33.510 --> 00:39:36.769 to listen to maybe repeater or APRS or whatever. 00:39:38.389 --> 00:39:40.809 And then I mentioned, you know, we're moving 00:39:40.809 --> 00:39:46.789 into the microwave world. I mean, we've operated 00:39:46.789 --> 00:39:51.690 ham TV on S band and we will do that again. And 00:39:51.690 --> 00:39:55.010 then we've got on board a software -defined radio, 00:39:55.789 --> 00:39:59.849 a Lyme SDR, but that's more for reception, not 00:39:59.849 --> 00:40:03.880 transmission. But we want to get into, you know, 00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:07.000 having a digital system on board that will be 00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:09.699 simple for people to use on the ground. The ham 00:40:09.699 --> 00:40:12.480 TV system is using a, you know, the equivalent 00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:14.900 of a set top box, you know, like a television 00:40:14.900 --> 00:40:20.119 type of box that does the conversion and we have 00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:25.699 pretty astounding software designers that build 00:40:25.699 --> 00:40:29.980 the interface to allow us to do ham TV. We want 00:40:29.980 --> 00:40:33.619 to do the same thing, and this kind of capability 00:40:33.619 --> 00:40:36.739 will also allow us to do lunar gateway so we 00:40:36.739 --> 00:40:40.760 can do things with the right coding sequences 00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:44.460 to get as much signal out since it's such a long 00:40:44.460 --> 00:40:47.519 distance. So we're going to try that on Space 00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:51.500 Station. Another thing to think about is that 00:40:51.500 --> 00:40:54.860 the commercial crew program is going to be bringing 00:40:54.860 --> 00:40:58.960 more people on board Space Station. And there's 00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:01.559 going to be commercial capabilities there, too. 00:41:01.659 --> 00:41:04.219 And we're starting dialogues with some of these 00:41:04.219 --> 00:41:06.539 companies called Axiom and others that are going 00:41:06.539 --> 00:41:10.820 to be flying these systems and these modules 00:41:10.820 --> 00:41:13.639 and seeing if a ham radio there would be good. 00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:17.119 So a crew member goes up. Those of you that remember 00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:21.400 Richard Garriott, he was on the air a lot. And 00:41:21.400 --> 00:41:25.119 we're hoping that some of these private astronauts, 00:41:25.139 --> 00:41:28.239 as they're called, We'll want to use ham radio 00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:31.400 and talk to people. So that's another thing that's 00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:36.260 on the horizon. We're, we're looking at very 00:41:36.260 --> 00:41:40.500 good. Well, trip K five TRP says he's a little 00:41:40.500 --> 00:41:43.300 bit late here tonight, but we thank you for listening 00:41:43.300 --> 00:41:47.579 trip and I'm glad that you, you commented that 00:41:47.579 --> 00:41:52.059 you're here. And we'll give one last call here 00:41:52.059 --> 00:41:58.800 for phone calls at 859 -982 -7373 or on Twitter 00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:02.960 it's at HamTalk Live. And I'm just checking here 00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:09.440 to see if we've missed anything. So those are 00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:13.800 some exciting things coming up for amateur radio 00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:21.070 in space. I'm so grateful for the leadership 00:42:21.070 --> 00:42:24.829 that Frank you have given and Rosalie and the 00:42:24.829 --> 00:42:30.710 whole crew and for Lou and Carrie working on 00:42:30.710 --> 00:42:34.050 designing all this stuff and getting it all ready 00:42:34.050 --> 00:42:39.750 to go. You've done a fantastic job and you're 00:42:39.750 --> 00:42:44.289 to be commended for all the hard work and expertise 00:42:44.289 --> 00:42:49.239 you've put into this. Well, let's go around here. 00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:53.059 Frank, I guess let's start with you too for some 00:42:53.059 --> 00:42:56.400 final comments here because I know, you know, 00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:59.940 you wanted to bring Lou and Carrie on here, you 00:42:59.940 --> 00:43:03.420 know, because they have a perspective from, you 00:43:03.420 --> 00:43:05.599 know, designing these things. So if there's anything 00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:11.079 we've missed, feel free, go ahead and ask those 00:43:11.079 --> 00:43:14.019 questions and any final thoughts here before 00:43:14.019 --> 00:43:18.079 we go tonight. Yeah, the one thing I would say 00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:21.800 Neil is that first off I want to thank Lou, you 00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:24.820 know Lou's our chief engineer and he has for 00:43:24.820 --> 00:43:29.719 decades now done so much for amateur radio and 00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:32.719 in particular amateur radio and on the shuttle 00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:36.360 Mir and and the International Space Station want 00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:38.340 to really thank him for everything he's done 00:43:38.340 --> 00:43:45.320 and and carries the expertise and strong support 00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:49.960 and activities. We would not have gotten these 00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:52.420 systems ready. It wasn't for them. And then, 00:43:52.420 --> 00:43:56.079 of course, the support of JVC Kenwood, because 00:43:56.079 --> 00:44:00.579 basically they re -engineered the radio systems. 00:44:01.219 --> 00:44:05.820 Phil Parton and Shin Iota are the two that were 00:44:05.820 --> 00:44:09.039 the ones we interfaced with. Like I said, they 00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:11.599 re -engineered that Kenwood to make it space 00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:14.820 worthy for us. And so we thank them for that 00:44:14.820 --> 00:44:19.340 and Kenwood, JVC Kenwood for that too. But, you 00:44:19.340 --> 00:44:23.840 know, I think we're very excited where we're 00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:28.079 at and we're on the precipice of, or I should 00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:33.519 say the threshold of a bright future. So I think, 00:44:33.539 --> 00:44:36.219 um, I turned it over to Lou and get his thoughts 00:44:36.219 --> 00:44:41.219 and then over to Kerry. Well, I keep saying that, 00:44:41.219 --> 00:44:45.960 uh, we're on a, um, we're opening up a new world 00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:49.880 for ham radio for, for us, any of the intended 00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:53.639 radio in space is, is a new thing. And we hope 00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:57.039 that, uh, uh, along with our partners, we're 00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:59.719 going to be doing ham radio on the space station 00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:03.199 for a long time, I think. We're trying to make 00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:10.340 sure that we're opening up a new era for them. 00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:15.380 Go ahead, Kerry. Yeah. Well, I'd just like to 00:45:15.380 --> 00:45:18.039 thank everyone involved. I mean, from all the 00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:22.420 support that we've gotten on this project from 00:45:22.420 --> 00:45:26.980 years and years back, all the way through getting 00:45:26.980 --> 00:45:29.639 it up there. I mean, it's a lot of people involved. 00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:35.360 in the amateur community, NASA, JVC Kenwood, 00:45:36.820 --> 00:45:41.019 all the way through ESA, and just, you know, 00:45:41.139 --> 00:45:44.820 an awful lot of people have touched this project 00:45:44.820 --> 00:45:49.900 as we've worked on it and put it together and 00:45:49.900 --> 00:45:52.239 gotten it up there, so I really appreciate it. 00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:54.699 Without all this input and help, it never would 00:45:54.699 --> 00:45:58.500 have happened. Kerry you brought up something 00:45:58.500 --> 00:46:02.119 important and I do want to say this Neil is that 00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:06.119 you know we are doing this internationally and 00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:09.880 every every one of our partners have been critical 00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:13.440 in making this happen to Kerry mentioned ESA 00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:17.219 you know it's Sergey Somborov and Russia and 00:46:17.219 --> 00:46:19.340 absolutely critical and us getting ham radio 00:46:19.340 --> 00:46:23.840 up there early and and continuing to make sure 00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:28.079 we have redundant systems on space station too 00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:34.960 yeah yeah it is the international space station 00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:41.699 exactly uh lou i think you were trying to say 00:46:41.699 --> 00:46:45.179 something there go ahead i would say that uh 00:46:45.179 --> 00:46:47.420 you you look at it from the european viewpoint 00:46:47.420 --> 00:46:51.480 uh here we come along a bunch of hams and we 00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:54.460 say Hey, we want to build a power supply and 00:46:54.460 --> 00:46:58.400 put it in your module To be used and they're 00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:02.659 saying wait a minute, you know What are you guys 00:47:02.659 --> 00:47:05.019 doing here? It's bringing this power supply. 00:47:05.059 --> 00:47:13.980 They've been so helpful NASA ESA and the Russians 00:47:13.980 --> 00:47:19.679 and all the Many many contractors that work with 00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:36.400 the rest of the Oh, very good. Well, Troy DOE 00:47:36.400 --> 00:47:39.260 nine KVR says he's a little late to the show 00:47:39.260 --> 00:47:41.980 here. He's going to listen to the rest of it 00:47:41.980 --> 00:47:44.599 later. So he's, he's got the second half and 00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:48.739 Before the first half, but thanks Troy for listening 00:47:48.739 --> 00:47:55.280 and also over on Twitter ke8fzt says great show 00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:58.980 tonight and Thanks for the show and thanks to 00:47:58.980 --> 00:48:04.369 Aris. So guys, thank you for Being here tonight 00:48:04.369 --> 00:48:08.630 and all that you've done, and Frank, there's 00:48:08.630 --> 00:48:11.769 one obvious thing that I think we haven't mentioned, 00:48:11.789 --> 00:48:15.550 and that is if people don't know how to listen 00:48:15.550 --> 00:48:19.650 to the space station, how do they find out the 00:48:19.650 --> 00:48:23.130 information about the space station operations 00:48:23.130 --> 00:48:28.409 and where to listen? Yeah, I think that there's 00:48:28.409 --> 00:48:31.210 a couple places they can do that, but one is 00:48:31.210 --> 00:48:36.159 Eris .org. We do have on there, we have bulletins 00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:38.239 for each one of the school contacts. So, you 00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:40.059 know, if you want to listen to a school contact, 00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:42.679 you can do that. And we always post the questions 00:48:42.679 --> 00:48:45.559 ahead of time so you can actually know the question 00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:48.599 and hear the astronaut's answer to that. We also 00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:53.559 have on there, you know, how to use the equipment, 00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:56.980 what frequencies and, you know, uplinks and downlinks 00:48:56.980 --> 00:48:59.800 for those that want to use the crossband voice 00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:03.539 repeater. It's two meters. two meters up 70 centimeters 00:49:03.539 --> 00:49:08.719 down with a tone and so that's all on the ARIS 00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:11.599 website also AMSAT has that on their website 00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:14.059 too as to you know when things are operational 00:49:14.059 --> 00:49:16.920 so I think you know those are good resources 00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:22.059 and ISS fan club is another area so those are 00:49:22.059 --> 00:49:25.179 like several of the resources you can go to to 00:49:25.179 --> 00:49:27.780 get the information to understand the operations. 00:49:29.680 --> 00:49:33.739 All right, what so eras org and am sat org check 00:49:33.739 --> 00:49:38.659 them out and give a listen and And maybe you 00:49:38.659 --> 00:49:41.679 know after you listen a while give it a shot 00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:44.920 and see how it goes Well, thank you guys so much 00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:47.599 for being here. I really appreciate it. I know 00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:53.739 this is a very Hot topic at this point because 00:49:53.739 --> 00:49:57.280 the power switch has been turned on so thank 00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:01.789 you so much Very welcome. Thank you Neil for 00:50:01.789 --> 00:50:09.469 this opportunity No problem Well, that is a wrap 00:50:09.469 --> 00:50:13.090 for this week's edition of ham talk live. Thanks 00:50:13.090 --> 00:50:17.289 to my guests Frank Bauer k3 HDO Lou McFadden 00:50:17.289 --> 00:50:22.250 w5d ID and Carrie Banky in six eyes at W and 00:50:22.250 --> 00:50:24.969 Everybody out there in cyberspace for listening 00:50:24.969 --> 00:50:28.639 and typing in tonight invite you all back next 00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:32.500 Thursday night at 9 p .m. Eastern Time. To find 00:50:32.500 --> 00:50:36.300 a list of our guests and past episodes go to 00:50:36.300 --> 00:50:39.500 HamTalkLive .com and click on the show schedule 00:50:39.500 --> 00:50:41.980 link and if you like the show please leave us 00:50:41.980 --> 00:50:46.639 a review on iTunes or wherever you listen. So 00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:50.679 for now this is Neil Rapp WB9VPG saying seven 00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:55.360 three seven five and may the good DX be yours. 00:50:55.820 --> 00:51:07.400 Thanks for watching!