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number 237 Q &A with Rob Sherwood nc0b and the
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at 9 p .m. Eastern Time and that's Friday at
zero 200 Zulu right now that we've got daylight
savings time out of the way so tonight Rob Sherwood
is back with us in see zero B he was here on
episode 234 three weeks ago but Thanks to Windows
Update, the phone lines were ringing but couldn't
be answered. And so I started the laptop up instead
of two hours early. I started it up like five
hours early today. So we've got everything functioning
or at least at the moment it is. We hope it stays
that way. But immediately he said, you know,
Why don't we do this again and and all we'll
just do the the Q &A so We're going to do that
tonight. He was gracious enough to come back
and take your calls in 1974 Rob started Sherwood
engineering offering Drake radio upgrades and
started testing transceivers in 1976 and he's
tested over a hundred now and that Data is all
available at Sherwood engineering's website at
sh er w e n g dot com or nc0b .com may be the
the easier way to get that website up but rob
thank you so much for coming back well my pleasure
good afternoon to you or good evening yeah you
know we had so much to talk about and we and
we still went overtime even without the phones
running So we're going to dedicate a lot of time
to taking questions tonight. But in the meantime,
you receive that IC 705 that you had just ordered
a couple of days before the show. And so now
you have your lab data on the IC 705. And I've
seen some people talking about that and where
it is and what that all means. And for full disclosure,
ICOM is a sponsor of HamDoc Live. So we will
say that. But when you were here, you were still
waiting on it to arrive. But now that you've
run it through the lab, what were your findings
on it? Well, I was quite happy with it. And see,
it's been up on my website since November 7th.
My testing has continued. Matter of fact, the
most recent update to the long form report several
pages now you can download that at nc0b .com
slash 705 no letters in there just nc0b .com
slash 705 and I added the VHF UHF data that I
didn't have right off the bat and then I added
transmit composite noise this past weekend using
the Perseus and down converting the signals from
the VHF frequencies. So it really performs quite
well and you consider it draws 200 mils approximately
on receive in comparison to like a 7300 draws
about an amp and the 7610 draws maybe three amps
or something like that. So it's a lot in a small
package for sure. Now there was some discussion
about you know where this fell and comparison
to the 7300 and 7610 and some of those others.
And there was some discussion about, you know,
well, you know, why is this a little further
down? Is that enough to really make a difference
or is that just the numbers? Well, it's still
a big number. I mean, WAJI and I have said for
decades, you know, your 80 dB radio is really
Plenty good most of the time for most of us,
you know, not every RF environment but one thing
to notice if you really want to compare the 705
to the 7300 or the 7610 for or even the 9700
It the 705 does not have the feature called IP
plus Which is a linearization feature of some
ADC chips But I'm assuming that the chip in the
705 is probably not the same one that's in the
7300 due to current draw and all that. So it
doesn't appear to have this built -in dither
function, the linearization function. So if you
want to compare the 705, I'd say look at the
7300 or the 7610 with the dither turned off.
And then you say, well, why do I want to do that?
I have yet to have anyone, including myself,
using the other two radios that have the IP Plus
feature turn it on and off. I listen in some
sort of a contest condition, and I don't really
notice anything. Now, that doesn't mean that
it never could make a difference. And on the
lower frequencies, any kind of low -level distortion
in these ADC radios, the digital radios, probably
covered up by band noise. If you're in a quiet
location on 10 and 12 meters or 6 meters, for
instance, maybe theoretically, those distortion
products that are covered up by bad noise on,
you know, 40, 80, 160, maybe they'd be heard.
So just don't get freaked out saying this number,
it's only 88. Gee, 20 years ago, we wish we had
an 88 dB radio. And then considering that most
of us are going to be using it in a portable
environment, at least part of the time. How many
of us have a, you know, three element Yagi out
in the park bench? So don't get too upset about
it. Yeah, it's, it's, uh, I've had the same experience
as you and we even tried the IP plus during field
day. And we always said, well, you know, 7 ,300
may not be the best radio to run during field
day. because of other radios in the near vicinity.
We used it and didn't have any trouble at all.
And so we thought, well, let's just try the IP
Plus just to see what it'll do. And I really
could tell very, very little difference. And
it actually worked just fine with the IP Plus
on. Some people were having an issue with that.
We didn't. I can't say that it's always going
to be that way. I'm like you. I can't really
tell a whole lot of difference at that level.
Well now, do you happen to know how old that
7300 was? Yeah, I don't know if it was before
or after that change that you talked about last
time. I need to look and see. if it was before
or after that. I think it was before though.
I mean, the first maybe 10 ,000 approximately,
don't really know. It did raise the noise floor,
which on 40 meters would matter not. 10 meters,
yes. But if you don't need it on 10 meters, for
instance, well then keep it off. Pretty simple.
The other thing I want to comment is, you know,
these numbers for an ADC direct sampling radio,
are not exact because every chip is slightly
different. And so you'll notice that their second
sample for the 7300, for the 7610, and they're
different by a modest, you know, some number
of dB. So I don't have two copies of a 705, but
these numbers are not as consistent as our old
-fashioned, well, I shouldn't say old -fashioned,
our legacy superhits. But, again, that's really
kind of in the noise to make a pun. So the radio
has features that I can't imagine I'll ever even
learn to use. I mean, I saw this wonderful 20
-minute YouTube by OH8STN, and he's doing digital
things I didn't even know existed with his laptop
out on a park bench or up on a mountain. The
feature richness is amazing, plus it's all in
one box. I just noticed on qth .com there was
someone wanting to sell their KX3 and a PX3 and
a microphone and all the cables because they
want to have a 705. Well, you've got one box
instead of multiple with all these interconnect
things. So you can hook up your IC705 with one
micro micro -USB connector on one end, the standard
USB on the other end, and you're done. Yeah,
it's nice for digital to have all that interfacing
right there in the rig. That definitely helps.
Any other things on the 705 before we move on
to the questions? Well, let's just see what questions
maybe the users have. Okay, all right. Well,
we're going to take a little bit of an early
break here But we want to give plenty of time
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I saw another tweet just come through. So we've
got a couple of those questions already. So we'll
start addressing those when we come back. But
again, the phone number. is 859 -982 -7373 and
we'll give that out a few more times here after
the break. So we'll come back with Rob and talk
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Thursday night. Just a heads up there. We've
got one from from Germany coming in here. So
we'll get to that in a minute, but first Brett,
WI7BG, has a question for you, Rob. He says,
based on your tests, and let me make sure, yeah,
I got your mic back on here. Based on your tests,
what features do you think are most important
in a state -of -the -art radio? Is it the number
of bits in the ADC? Is it SuperHat versus direct
conversion? Is it roofing filters or something
completely different? OK, well, there's a lot
of questions there. So first off, I'll say on
bits, whether it's a 14 -bit or 16 -bit matters
not. ADCs have noise. Now, if there was no such
thing as noise, then it would make a difference.
But if you do the math, the difference in dynamic
range of a 14 -bit versus 16 -bit is a fraction
of a dB. So that's in the noise. Well, you mentioned
direct sampling and direct conversion and super
hits. So those are all different ways to come
up with the same thing. We want RF in and audio
out in a very difficult RF environment like field
day, where you have multiple stations on the
same band. Well, then the super hit with a roofing
filter will have an advantage, maybe as much
as 25 dB from an overload standpoint, because
The direct sampling radio is going to see at
least the entire band, if not a half -octave.
For instance, on 20 meters, a typical radio will
have a half -octave filter that might be about
11 MHz to 15 MHz. So all that signal that's coming
in from the antenna is going to be impinging
on the ADC chip. legacy radio with a roofing
filter, even if it was an older radio that had
a 15kc roofing filter as opposed to like a K3
with a 2 .8 or 500 Hertz, the roofing filter
is going to get rid of most of the signals before
it goes downstream. Now the KX3 for instance,
or the KX2, is a direct conversion. That means
it goes right to baseband audio. the direct sampling
doesn't really have an IF per se. So that of
course goes right in from the ADC into the FPGA,
the field programmable logic array. So you really
just sort of need to decide what's my environment
today. If you're at your home and you don't have
a ham that's 10 blocks away or maybe even a mile
or two away. you're probably never going to be
worried about it one way or the other. But if
you do have a ham really close by, or maybe a
broadcast station, which hopefully you could
get rid of with an external filter, there are
times when the hybrid Kenwood or the hybrid New
Yezu, both of those two, they're a super hit
with roofing filters. So sometimes that's better.
So it really does make a difference as to you
know, what your operating environment is, and
so that's some good information. Well, thank
you for that. Let me drop in one thing pretty
quickly here. Once I finished the first day in
the lab when I got most of the HF data on the
705, I then hooked it up to my high -gain 204BA.
An antenna has been up there since 1972. and
talk to my friend in Alaska, KL7QOW. I talked
to him for 20 minutes. He was running a kilowatt
with a Yagi at 105 feet, and I was running 10
watts with a Yagi at 50 feet. And we had a great
time. So that was fun. Yeah, that's always fun.
Well, we've got another question here from Germany
from Ed, DD5LP. And we've got a lot here and
actually sent you this one early so you could
have it in front of you here. So while not directly
related to measurement of performance, I'm sure
Rob has an understanding of the internal design
of the IC705 and may have an answer for this.
Does the IC705, like many other ICOM transceivers,
have links or diodes that can be removed to wideband
or extend the frequency coverage on transmit
as well as receive of the transceiver? The background
of this question is that ICOM UK and I believe
ICOM Europe originally stated that the IC 705
would cover HF 6 meters 4 meters 2 meters and
70 centimeters in the IC 705 model for Europe
but later removed the European 4 meter which
is 70 to 70 and a half megahertz band from the
specifications the European model the IC 7300
does cover four meters and so it would make sense
that the 705 would also have that coverage. If
it's a case of ICOM Europe and ICOM UK deciding
that they didn't want to have the extra support
cost and possibly production cost from the factory
to support four meters that's one possible reason
but you want to know Rob if you can see a technical
reason with the HF SDR and down converter configuration
Why 70 to 70 and a half megahertz would technically
not be possible He goes on to say if it's a case
of icon believing the option of the customer
to wideband the rig at their own risk Would that
also mean in the u .s. The 220 megahertz band
would also be covered They don't have that over
in Europe because they use that for digital radio
broadcast. So So basically it comes down to four
meters What why are some of these? capable and
some not Okay. Well, I'm glad you gave me that
question a few days ago. So I did spend about
an hour or more researching it and yes, there's
a diode bank and yes, there's people who've Broadbanded
it to an extent certainly in the HF range. So
people were interested in 60 meters and that
appears to work and then I guess if you want
to be dumb enough to try to transmit on the citizens
band you could probably make it do that too with
a couple more diodes out and it did broadband
on HF but it looked like it was going to broadband
on four meters because the when you transmit
and you've got the waterfall and the spectrum
scope working when you talk you know that's there
but there wasn't any output so I don't know the
answer to why it's not there, but it could be
that even though they took the diode out that
maybe would have provided that, it's possible
that the low -pass filter that's in the rig to
deal with six meters in the harmonics, it wouldn't
pass the 70 megahertz. I mean, that's just a
speculation. I don't know. I don't know, in the
other rigs, maybe the ones that do cover four
meters, they change the low pass filter that
would be just for six meters and change it so
it works for six and four. And so why they made
that decision, I don't know, but it appears at
the moment they, no luck on that. As far as 220,
nothing, I found nothing on the internet about
that whatsoever. So I'd say that's probably zero
chance. Okay, very good. Well, thank you, Ed,
for sending that along and sending it early so
we could get that in there. Alright, again, phone
number 859 -982 -7373 if you have a question
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Again, 859 -982 -7373. We've got another one
here that's asking about the 7610 and the 590.
Any comparisons between those? Well, you know,
for a long time, the 590S and the 590SG were
the best bang for the buck. They were a fine
transceiver. They had some unusual heteronide
methods because it was a down conversion radio,
a low IF version on most of the bands, except
for the work bands, 10 meters and 6 meters. So
from maybe a CWF contest standpoint, it didn't
perform as well on 6 meters as, for instance,
an Eagle, which didn't have the unusual difference
in the way the mixing worked. Then the 7300 came
along and suddenly became the bang for the buck
leader due to features, if nothing else. I mean,
you've got the band scope, you've got more adjustability
on bandwidth, and the noise reduction was really
good. And then you jump up clear to the 7610,
my goodness. Well, then you've got dual receivers.
You've got solid state TR switching for no noise
acoustically and you have the ability to key
an amplifier with a FET instead of a relay although
you can do both on a 7610 you cannot on the 7300
you've got two relays making clicking noises
with a 7300 and the 7610 has an audio peak filter
I honestly don't remember I'm afraid to say whether
the 590 has an audio peak filter you can probably
figure that out fairly quickly with a quick web
search so I mean the 590 and the 7610 are very
different. Now if I was on field day and we've
got a CW station and a FTH station and a sideband
station on the same band, I might well pick the
590 simply because it's the roofing filter type
radio and would be bothered less by that other
station that might be the antenna might be a
hundred feet away. Okay, well that sounds like
a Good answer and again comes back to environment,
which seems to be a theme here tonight. 859 -982
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Live. Just a quick thing here. Troy, who is normally
a faithful listener live, is celebrating his
birthday today. So happy birthday to Troy. 859
-982 -7373 is the number. Rob, what else are
you seeing? I'm a little curious about sweepstakes
this weekend. What are you going to run? Well,
I will be running the IC705. It will not be barefoot.
That would, of course, be a category. But I've
been using the 705 two different ways besides
barefoot. In Denver, I just drove my Alpha 99
and it put out about 200 watts. And so I just
had a couple of rag chews that way just to see
if that all worked. And it was a piece of cake.
I just needed a key line. So that was easy. Because
I am going to be running the 705 in a double
rail 160 CW first weekend of December and the
a double rail 10 meter contest the second weekend
of December I thought I need a dry run. I need
to be sure n1 mm plus is working So I'll be running
sweepstakes to as a test. I'm not going to be
trying to really compete But here's how the setup
will be for that. And this is just a choice,
of course. I could easily drive the Alpha up
there at the contest station with the 10 watts,
and I'd get out a couple hundred watts. That
would be fine. And I'd be in the, or maybe back
it off to 150 watts to be in the low power category.
But I have an intermediate amplifier from Ten
Tech, and you could have one from Aldercraft,
for instance, the KXPA100. So I take the... 705
and turn it down to a watt and a half drive the
little intermediate amp which then drives the
big amp So I'll play with sweepstakes. I may
do it both ways. I may try it with the Full power
and then I may just turn off the intermediate
amp and just run a hundred hundred watts or 150
watts So that's what I plan to do this weekend
Alright sounds like a good good way to check
everything out and I know you like to You're
the expert with all these numbers, but yet when
these numbers are so good on so many radios,
you really like to get in there and run a few
contests with it before you give your final say
-so about these rigs. Well, one thing is if you
are used to the ICOM direct sampling radios,
there's almost no learning curve from an HF standpoint
or even two meter sideband for instance. It just
works the same way. So you're not trying to pull
out the manual to figure out how to change the
span on the band scope or whatever. So that's
really easy since I have a 7300 and a 7610. So
it makes the 705 just a slightly different box.
Now if we were talking about all these exotic
digital things or d star well then that i don't
happen to play in those world but boy a lot of
people will yeah there's a lot of different modes
for a lot of different folks and it's nice to
be able to to have some versatility you know
let's uh one thing let me remind people real
quick 859 -982 -7373 because we're going to uh
to finish up here before too long okay robert
go ahead So I find I like leaving the multifunction
knob on RIT So it's very easy to adjust that
if you're in a roundtable and if you are picky
on tuning in on frequency which I certainly am
so the usability is really good and that's how
I talked to my weekly schedules and In this case,
if they're scattered around 10, 20, 30 Hz frequency,
just turn that little knob. A lot of nice features
there. Yeah, it's always great to have that little
knob. It's always nice to be able to tune that
right in. I don't know. There's just something
there about having having .00 exactly on the
end, too. I don't know what that is, but it really
doesn't matter. But it feels so much better.
I don't know. Well, I think we're through everything
here that we have tonight, Rob. So so we'll finish
up here. But thanks so much for coming on and
for researching all the. Answers to the questions
that have come in here and and answering those
on the spot as well and Look forward to to hearing
your comments after after you've had a chance
to to really give the 705 a run on a couple of
contests and and see What your thoughts are but
it sounds like you know another great option
Let me make it sort of generalization comment.
I did expand my 18 radio list the other day for
a new presentation. And that list, which I have
given at several either live or Zoom type presentations,
is the top 18 and now the top 20 individual transceivers,
not second samples like I may have mentioned
three weeks ago, you know, like there's several
up there for the K3 because it went through different
iterations and they were all slightly different.
And then the fact we have second samples, two
samples of several of the direct sampling radios.
So if you just simplify it, so we just have individual
models. And I took out the receivers. There's
a couple of receivers and so they're not transceivers.
So anyway, I tried to decided to expand the group
from 18 to 20. And the 705 is number 20. And
so in all of those, you can be very happy that
you can work a lot of DX in a contest or whatever
besides just rag chewing, which is not usually
a stressful environment. N2IC is a big contester.
He used the Para 590s. Antennas are really important,
so you don't have to buy them. $5 ,000 radio
necessarily. And certainly, if you're a new ham,
I'd never recommend a new ham to go spend a fortune.
Spend something in the $1 ,000 range, plus or
minus, that fits your budget. And then find out
what this wonderful hobby is, and hopefully you'll
be doing it for the next 50 years like I am.
I think I'm licensed in 1961, so a long time
ago. one radio and if you look at my chart some
people say well gee i gotta buy the top two or
three well that's silliness there's just so many
choices a day over a wide price range you can
enjoy the hobby with a lot of different products
and any brand you really are connected with if
you've been a yezu owner for years you've been
a kenwood owner icon whatever and so You can
stay with a given brand or you can take something
new. But the range of performance for the dollar
is unprecedented today. Yeah. And I think that's
something to keep in mind with the 705 because
some people were saying, well, you know, it's,
it's way down the list. Well, you know, does
it really matter? I would. That's the thing.
You don't buy a radio on one number. I don't
care what your budget is and how exotic your
setup is. You look at the whole picture of user
interface, reliability, factory service, clean
audio, receive and transmit, flexible adjustments
and things like that. You've got choices that
we couldn't imagine 20 years ago. Well all kinds
of great ones out there and so find one you like
try them out find one you like and and go with
it, so Thank you so much Rob for for breaking
this down for us and coming back to answer all
the questions and We'll do it again When there's
some more new stuff out there on the horizon,
so thank you so much Right Neil, thank you very
much for the invitation and everyone enjoy your
radio. Enjoy your hobby get on the air Yeah,
and sweepstakes is a good time to do that. So
that's coming up this weekend So speaking of
weekend next week is Thanksgiving and I'm going
to be Traveling so we're going to take next week
off uh... so just programming note that uh...
we want to have a live show next week uh... we'll
be back in two weeks and uh... we'll we'll pick
up from there but uh... for now that's a wrap
for this week's edition of ham talk live thanks
to my guest rob sure would nc0b and everybody
out there in cyberspace for typing in tonight
Again, next Thursday is Thanksgiving, but I'll
be back in two weeks on Thursday night 9 p .m
Eastern time and we'll be talking about the upcoming
December Yoda month special event so December
is a time when youth get on the air for a special
event last year racked up over a hundred and
twenty thousand Contacts and they're gonna be
on the air again So we'll talk about that then
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