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2021 i'm your host neil rap wb9 vpg Thanks for
tuning in to this episode of HamTalk Live. Tonight
we're joined by Michael Coulter, W8CI, and we'll
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HamTalk Live with Neil Rapp. Welcome back to
HamTalk Live. Tonight, Michael Coulter, WHCI,
joins us on the Orlando Amateur Radio Club and
hamcation line. He is the official spokesperson,
finance chair, and co -chair of the awards committee
of the Dayton Hamvention. Mike resides in Xenia,
Ohio. and is a past president of the Dayton Amateur
Radio Association and Ham Finch and General Chairman
back in 2011, 2012. And Michael, welcome back.
Yeah, well, I'm glad to be able to talk to you,
Neil. You put on a great program and you're doing
so many good things for amateur radio, especially
for youth. And I'll say hello to everybody out
there. It's it's a. shame to have to be here
and not, you know, rooting for, uh, Hamvention
this year. Yeah, it's, uh, it's, it's bad news
again, but we still need to hear about it. So
we hope that, uh, that Hamvention QSO party was,
was a one time only deal. We kept talking about
that Michael and, and, and, and by the way, shout
out to the, to the team because I did get a QSL
card here, uh, not long ago. So thank you for
that. But, you know, I know you had plans to
forge ahead and then it just became obvious it
wasn't going to work. So tell us what happened
with this decision making process to cancel for
the second time. Yeah, I will. You know, it's
another painful thing for a hand benching. And
if you're like me, and lots of people love hand
benching. And it's just such a wonderful event
to come and meet your friends and do so many
things and just really be saturated in the world
of amateur radio. But what happened was is that
before Christmas, you know, we have been working
very, very diligently since, oh, I would say
July, August timeframe. And we would meet regularly,
and a lot of us would meet a couple times a week,
try to get this thing planned out. But we always
had our ear to the ground and our eyes to what's
happening in terms of the COVID. And we kept
hearing, yeah, they're going to get all these
vaccinations out. It was going to be great. And
as December rolled through, it became more and
more obvious actually toward the end of December,
beginning of January. that there were a whole
lot of issues to get the vaccination out. And
even if they did get it all out, it may not be
in time right now. So what we do, we had to look
ahead and go, OK, we have a whole lot of stakeholders,
the stakeholders being our visitors. And we certainly
want to make sure our visitors have a very safe
event. You know, we don't want to invite them
to something very risky. And of course, our volunteers
are I'm more than 700 volunteers, which I am
one of those volunteers, and very worried about
to be sure that their health is protected. Of
course, all the vendors that are buying space
and they're going to bring a lot of stuff, they
order ahead of time. There's just so much that
goes into planning an event like this. It's huge.
hotel, motel, campground in the region for a
weekend in May. And it was just looking more
and more like, well, we could be bringing people
in here, but it may be too risky, or we may not
even be allowed to have it by then. So we were
kind of rolling the dice and pushing forward
and pushing forward. And we met our executive
committee, it's a few of us that meet, and we
weigh everything out, and we made the decision
to be fair to everyone, we better cancel and
cancel early. And it is, you know, I can't tell
you how painful that is to do that for somebody
who loves hand -vention as much as I do. But
Neil, that's kind of the story. But I want to
add something else, too. We have been talking
to the medical professionals about this. And
of course, our general chairman, Rick WSAG, is
a medical professional. He's actually a retired
doctor. And then I have a daughter who's an infectious
disease specialist at The Ohio State University.
And talking to Rick, and especially talking to
my daughter, it just didn't look like this thing
was gonna work out. Back to you, Neil. All right.
Well, I know that's a tough decision to make
it but like I said like you said you've got all
kinds of stakeholders to be concerned about here
and it just it just wasn't going to work out
so I can't blame you for making that decision
and I think you know, you have to go ahead for
a while and say, you know, hey, you know, we're
gonna we're gonna try to make this thing happen
and we're gonna we're going to make plans we're
going to keep you know things going and and you
know and see how it goes and and it just you
know there was a chance but um it it you know
just became obvious that it wasn't going to work
and i i think that's that's the right call to
make is is give it a shot as long as you can
uh with still giving some notice to everyone
um so What are the plans for Hamvention Weekend
this time around? Are we gonna do the QSO party
again? Anything different from last year? Anything
virtual? What are the plans for Hamvention Weekend
without the physical Hamvention? That's a good
question. There are a lot of people doing lots
of Zoom programs, lots of virtual things, and
you know, we're Hamvention. That's not really
our strength, our strong point. Our strength
is the big gathering, and so we probably will
not do anything in terms of a virtual Hamvention.
However, Tim Duffy and Contest University Group
Will have and stay tuned for that for all the
information they will have contest university
and it will be virtual and I got to be part of
that some last year it is it is really a great
event and Looking looking forward to that that's
coming up and then also We will probably do another
Q so party and I have a special event station
working maybe part of the time as well So we
are planning that we're working those things
out now as we speak. And I do want to mention
that our friends at HamCon, we were very sorry
to hear what happened there. And then Hamcation,
our good friends down there, they've got some
events coming up here in February. And we all
work together to support each other. We want
to let everybody know that to support and join
in with hamcation with their events. I think
they got a QSO party and also a virtual event
that day. But our team is forging ahead and,
you know, nice day in May. And last year we were
sitting here doing a QSO party and I live south
of Zina out in the countryside here. It was like
72, 73 degrees, sunny out. The very perfect weather
for a hamvention. It, it, it just wasn't, it
was so hard on us and it's tough for the team
this year. Lots of people who worked hard on
it, but that's, that's what we're looking at.
Neil back to you. All right. Well, yeah, there's
a lot going on, uh, virtually. And we talked
about some of those at the open of the show.
uh... and you know uh... winter fest and hamcation
and and i'm going to be speaking at both of those
uh... and and and we forgot that you mentioned
we forgot winter field day i didn't mention winter
field day but winter field day is is in there
too so uh... there's there's a lot of stuff going
on on the air and on line but just yet in person
and we're still looking forward to being able
to get the gang back together again. So let's
talk about 2022 and I'm almost afraid to say
anything about 2022 because I don't want to jinx
it. But what are the refund policies here now
that you know we've had to cancel again, what
are those policies and you know 2022 is going
to be extra special. Right the refund policy
is on our website handvention .org you know basically
it is let us know if you've bought a ticket and
you need your money back you know let us know
and we will refund that. It may take a week or
two, but it takes a little bit of time to process
it, but we'll get it back. And that's all clearly
on the website. As for Hamvention 2022, Katie
bolted the door. It will be just magnetic. It
will be probably one of the best amateur radio
gatherings in years. And we're excited about
it. You know, we were excited this year to have
the gathering. And next year, you know, when
I talk to people, and maybe they know how much
I love Hamvention, and maybe they're just saying
that to appease me, but I don't think so. I think
people are so ready to get together as amateur
radio operators, as human beings, and people
from all over the world. And that's another thing
that fit into our our decision. We're an international
event and we have people coming from all over
the world and I know when we closed this down
for this year or canceled it this year, I got
a lot of emails from folks all over the world
and here I'm on the radio, I enjoy working 40
meters and talk to my friends in there. all over
the world and they're saddened by it, but you
know what, I think people really understand and
respect the fact that we had to do it and when
we did it. If we'd have waited until a month
out and people have a lot more money invested
in this and then we cancel, we wouldn't look
very professional. We would look like, hey, what's
with that? Now we would cause everybody a lot
of work and people to lose money or lose... You
know, we hate it if anybody loses anything, you
know, the fact that we cancel, but 2022, it will
be spectacular. Yeah, it will be. And, and, you
know, I know it's, it's kind of, kind of lame,
but it is true. We'll appreciate it a whole lot
more when we get together in 2022. And you know,
we've had to be without Hamvention two years
now. will will appreciate it that much more so
can't wait for that to happen yeah i know when
you get on the q so party at least um... that
the people that i work on their height always
want to hear yeah i i love hearing what their
favorite uh... uh... events are different things
that they've really remember about him that should
be cursed num people go away from him mention
and um... They either have a good time or a bad
time. You really want to look at Hamvention as,
man, I've got a story from Hamvention. Let me
tell you this. When I talk to people on the radio
or anywhere and they talk to me about Hamvention
and remind me of different things, that they
met somebody there, they can't wait to be at
this particular table again, sitting with their
friends. Look at QRZ pages and I see the pictures
of friends that get together from all over the
world at Hamvention. That's what we want, is
this beautiful gathering. And we want to present
the place and I will tell you that the Fairgrounds,
the Expo Center up there in Xenia, they have
put so much into this thing. They have put, they've
got painting all the rooms, the inside. Air movement
is even better, they've done a lot of improvements
there, there's a whole lot of things going on
there, and they're pushing ahead. So, and I do
want to also mention, Neil, you didn't ask me
this, but I want to mention that Hamvention is,
and the Dayton Amateur Radio Association, financially
we are robust, there's not a problem, we will
be able to have the show next year, and it'll
be a, world -class show and and Well, we will
just forge ahead and the fairgrounds is totally
understanding. I mean they have to be because
If we were to have it today, we wouldn't be allowed
to so yeah back you know All right, Michael.
Well, we're going to talk more about the fairgrounds
and some of that and take your calls and some
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Michael the tap dancing is that talking to you
oh Man I tell you what I was moved by that. You
know it reminds me of That whole joke scene,
I mean, that's great. I really like the levity.
We definitely need some levity here with the
COVID. But I remember the last convention I was
at, I was walking out a door of one of the buildings,
I can't remember one, and a couple of guys were
walking in and they said, and one guy said to
his buddy, he said, you know, my daughter's getting
married this weekend. I hope it's going okay
for her. I was stunned when I heard that. Anyway,
that's one of my, uh, I got plenty of hand venture
memories and, uh, that's a funny one that I just
couldn't hardly believe it. Oh, that's a, that's
a good one. Well, if you have a question for
Michael, or maybe you have a hand, which memory
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we're not here it's Thursday night and and so
we're we're not home so well We'll take some
calls and we'll read some comments and and we
have our first call of the night. So Good evening.
Welcome to ham talk live Michael Michael turn
down the the speakers there and listen the phone
Hi, Michael. Hi, how are you? Hello. I can hear
you, but I also hear something else in the background.
I have everything turned off. So you should just
hear me. Yep. I think you got it. Okay. Now I
can hear you. There you go. Okay. Uh, just calling
in to, uh, let everybody know that Orlando hamcation,
uh, totally agrees with a convention's decision.
Uh, we believe it was the right decision. Just
like. the one that we had to make this year and
the same one that you had to make last year.
It's heartbreaking, but we are on the same page
with you. And let me give a proper introduction
here. This is this is Michael Cole, AW4MCA, the
chairman of Orlando Hamcation. I saw his caller
ID, so I knew who it was. Go ahead, Michael Coulter.
I can tell by his voice who this was, you know,
and You know, Michael and I are good friends
as well as most of the staff that works down
there at Hamcation. What a great job that they
do. And you know what, when it gets really cold
in this part of the country and it gets on to
around February, I start thinking about how great
it's going to be to go to Florida. But we're
not going to be able to have it this year. I
feel for you guys too, but I think we're all
doing the right thing. We got to protect everybody.
So we're just going to take a slam in and keep
on having Michael. Yeah, exactly. And just like
you said, I think 2022 is going to be stellar
years for all the shows, especially the ones
that had to be canceled for this year. And I
think it's going to be bigger and better for
him radio. I do too, we're really caught in the
middle and I know Germany is still planning on
having theirs and man, I hope they can. I'd like
to be able to get over there to that, but right
now I don't think we'd allow that in Germany.
And then Huntsville, I know that they've got
a block of rooms ready and I hope that they can
have it too. Yeah, staying here with Huntsville.
I know if they do, we will be there. We actually
got a room registered already for hamcation.
And I do know Germany as of right now is still
going on. I know Peter and Lydia is over there
in the Netherlands and they're planning on going
to Germany if it does happen. Yeah, I was planning.
I had my tickets and everything for last year.
I was I was ready to go and then they canceled
it. I had to cancel everything. Anyway, Michael,
thank you for calling in man, and you know how
much him ham bench and supports what you guys
do and You know ham bench and hamcation Huntsville,
Japan Friedrich often we all support each other.
We all want the best for each other We all know
each other and and we're all friends. There's
no collusion because we're all not -for -profit
organizations, but But we're small we're small
Really, the amateur radio community is a small,
small population in the world, and so we want,
if we're successful, that's great. That means
that the amication will be successful, and on
down the line, because that sells, it helps all
the vendors, and people love it, and so it's
just, it's snowballs. Back to you, Neil. All
right, well Michael Colley, thank you for calling
in as always and look forward to hamcation se
here in just a few weeks and Appreciate you taking
the time to call tonight Thank you my thank you
for the show Michael good talking to you and
Talk to y 'all later Seven three thanks a lot
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in Michael Colter w8 ci is our guest tonight
from the Dayton hamvention So we were talking
a little bit about the fairgrounds and you said
they're they're actually Doing you know some
painting and some fixing up and then some improvements
How are they handling, you know, I'm sure Hamvention
is not, you know, it's probably their biggest
event of the year, other than maybe the fair,
but how are they doing? I'm assuming, you know,
they aren't having many other shows there either.
So how are they holding up and are there any
plans to go ahead with that new building that
was being talked about a few years ago? Well,
that's for the new building. Unfortunately, that
is on the back burner for them for the moment.
And they're putting in a lot of improvements,
which I'm very happy about. And yeah, of course
they're disappointed we're not coming. It made
front page news. in all of Greene County and
then all our news outlets, the TV channels came
and interviewed me and it was not good news because
Hamvention represents over $30 million in revenue
just for the Greene, Montgomery County area around
here because it's a big event and that's a big
hit. 30 million bucks is a big hit. to anybody
when I won't say anybody's economy, but the economy
here. And, um, so, but, but everybody understands,
they think it's the right thing. And, you know,
we don't want to jeopardize anybody's health.
And at this time, it just, that's going to be
right on the gray line. I would say of, of, uh,
darkness and light for this COVID. Yeah. Well,
yeah, I was able to see, uh, a couple of the
television interviews and you know that was you
know that was their focus of course was the economic
impact that that Hamvention has on that entire
area and Nothing about this has been easy by
any means So I'm glad to hear the fairgrounds
is doing okay. It's totally understandable that
that building is Kind of on the back burner,
but glad to hear that they're, you know, they're
taking the opportunity to get some painting done
and get some, you know, some work done while
it's kind of, you know, sitting there. Absolutely.
They are working hard at things every time I
go up there. Um, another thing that we are, uh,
they're looking at doing is in the middle of
the fairgrounds now with, if anybody can remember,
there's a, where the flags are. There's a bunch
of bricks in there and we are soon going to release
the ability for people to buy a brick and have
their call sign etched into it. It's really not
going to cost that much money. That information
will be coming out on our website before too
much longer. We're pretty excited about that
and the Fairgrounds plans to use that. to make
even more improvements on the property. Oh, that's
a great idea. I know out at ARRL headquarters
they did that. You could buy a brick and I always
enjoy reading all the little bricks when I'm
out there. and get to see that. And some of them
had some kind of funny comments. Nothing bad,
but they were interesting. So it was kind of
fun just to kind of go through and read some
of those. So that's pretty cool. 859 -982 -7373
is the phone number to call. So if you have a
question or a comment about Hamvention, give
us a call right now at 859 -982 -7373. So let's
take a look at the chat here. We've got three
or four people here in the chat commenting. So
John in for JTK says 2022 is going to be a. A
stellar year and and they're hoping that the
Dalton Georgia ham fest still happens and and
and he he will buy a brick and and Michael Colley
just jumped in and said he'll buy one too and
Joe Eisenberg k0 neb says the same and and says
he worked uh you uh Michael during the qso party
last year and as well as uh some others so um
he's looking forward to to that as well. So those
are some of the comments that we have here online.
But if you'd like to call, now's the time to
do that. We're about to finish up. So call us
at 859 -982 -7373. Okay, let's see. We're checking
the tweets here and don't see any questions on
there. We did have to start a little late. I
had to reinstall some mic drivers tonight. So
my apologies for that and Did tweet that out.
So if something like that happens be sure to
check at ham talk live on Twitter. So Michael,
I guess let's finish up here any any other things
that people need to know before We let you go
tonight All right I guess that to anybody who's
suffering with COVID now or has family members
suffering from it or close friends, we send out
our prayers and best wishes. I have a very, very
close friend that is right on the edge of it
right now. He's in the hospital. He's been intubated.
We're all worried about it day by day, and we
have other members in our organization here,
the Dayton Amateur Radio Association, who are
fighting COVID. We'll all get through this, so
my prayers go out to anybody who has it. I also
want to say to people, stay on the radio, get
on the air, reach out in the amateur radio community.
There's no better time right now than getting
on the air. There's been probably very few more
meaningful times than to get on the radio. Anyway,
Neil, I certainly appreciate the opportunity
to be on your program. You're very well organized.
For those of you who don't know this, before
he has a program, He has everything typed up
of what's gonna happen and very, very orderly,
very, very good. It's not a free rambling kind
of a thing. It is and it isn't, but it's structured,
structured just right. And Neil, I very much
appreciate working with you. You are a constant
professional and the things that you are doing
for Yoda just absolutely, absolutely great. And,
uh, as you know, the Dayton amateur radio association
supports you in the, and the efforts that you're
doing there. So, uh, I don't know what else to
say. Um, I'm so sorry. We couldn't have a hand
mentioned and I could say it hurts me more than
it hurts you, but I don't know that that's true.
We all love it. It just plain hurts. It does.
Yeah. Go ahead. It certainly does. Well, thank
you so much for all the kind words about the
show and about Yoda. We sent out some information
today, actually. Another thing that I was doing
today was sending out press releases about the
Yoda month that we had. 130 I forget now 138
,000 Q so's in one month by the young people
in ham radio so you can check that out at youth
on the air org and we appreciate the hamvention
support of Youth on the air camp as well as hamcation
and all the others that icon and everyone that
helps us put this thing on this summer, we hope.
We hope we don't have to cancel, we're kind of
doing the same thing. We're going ahead, we're
forging ahead with the plan and then a few months
out we'll... We'll evaluate and see where we're
at. We're hoping that mid -July is late enough
that we can get it going. Jill KD8QGA says, I
got the lanyards. There you go. She's got her
hamcation lanyards. Michael, thanks again for
coming on the show and talking about it. I know
it's not an easy topic to discuss when you have
to. disappoint 40 ,000 some hams and the community's
economy. But we appreciate all you do and all
that Dara does to bring us Hamvention whenever
possible. And we look forward to the QSO party
and some of those things. And then 2022 will
be ready to go for sure. Thank you so much. It's
been my pleasure, and thank you to all of you
who tuned in or listening to this, and any questions
or further comments, as you would say on the
air, I'm good on QRZ. You can find my email address
there. So 73, everybody, stay safe, stay on the
radio, stay healthy. Thanks again, Neil. All
right. Well, that is a wrap for this week's edition
of HamTalk Live. thanks to my guest, Michael
Coulter, W8CI, and everybody out there in Saberspace
for listening and calling in, typing in, and
I invite you back next Thursday night, 9 p .m.
Eastern Time. And for all of our upcoming guests,
you can check that out at HamTalkLive .com. So
for now, this is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, saying 7
-3, 7 -5, and may the good DX be yours. Thanks
for watching.