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we go, welcome to Hamtok Live Call in, let's

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talk, Neil's your guy Hamtok Live, here we go

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on Hamtok Radio Good evening everyone, it's time

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for HamTalk Live episode number 255, Yoda Contest,

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recorded live on Thursday, April 15th, 2021.

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I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG. Thanks for

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tuning in to this episode of HamTalk Live. Tonight

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we're joined by Philip Springer, DK6SP, Marcus

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Robert. DL8GM and Tommy Varro HA8RT from Youngsters

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on the Air and we'll take your calls live in

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just a few minutes. Last week Don Wilbanks AE5DW

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was here to talk about the Newsline Young Ham

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of the Year Award nominations. And if you missed

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at about 3 30 p .m. Eastern Time and Tonight

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we're talking about this new Yoda contest So

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we'll have the phone lines open later on in the

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show I'll go ahead and give you the phone number

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for that. It's eight five nine 982 -7373. We'll

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give that number out again here in just a little

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bit. You can also tweet us tonight. We're watching

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you'll be able to give us a call and ask your

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else that we end up. Talking about but definitely

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them anytime, anywhere at PL -259 .com. Well,

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welcome back to HamTalk Live tonight, Philip

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Springer, DK6SP, Marcus Grossa, DLHGM, and Tommy

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Varro, HA8RT. Join us on the Orlando Amateur

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Radio Club and Hamcation Zoom line. Philip, the

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K6SB, is the IARU Region 1 Youth Working Group

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Chair that operates youngsters on the air in

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Europe, Africa, the Middle East, and Northern

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Asia. Philip is also a director of the Worldwide

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Radio Operators Foundation. Philip is from Bavaria,

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Germany, and became licensed at age 10. He is

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an accomplished contestor at 23 years old and

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is studying logistics and digitalization at the

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master's level. Marcus Grossa, the L8GM, is the

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vice chair of the IARU Region 1 youth working

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group, also from Germany, and has been licensed

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since 2011. He's been active within youth work

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in the local club since then. Furthermore, he

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is a master's graduate in computer science and

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he is one of the programmers for the Charlie

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25 SDR project by Smart Radio Concepts, which

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some people may know from Hamvention. He's more

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interested in the technical side of the hobby

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and generally leaves the station up for others

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to use as soon as that's going and Marcus is

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25 years old. And finally, Tommy Varro HA8RT

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is a 22 year old from Hungary and is also an

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accomplished contester and was partnered with

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Philip in WRTC 2018. He's the award manager for

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December Yoda month and has been licensed since

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age 14. Tommy is currently studying information

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technology engineering and he is the liaison

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to the Hungarian amateur radio society that is

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cooperating with Yoda to sponsor this new Yoda

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contest and all three are members of the contest

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committee. So guys, thanks so much for being

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up early, early, early in the morning over in

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Germany and Hungary to be with us tonight to

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talk about this. Thanks for having us. Thanks.

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Thanks, Neil. It really depends if it's early

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or late. Yes, yeah, we're not sure if it's really

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late or really early. Probably for you all, knowing

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you all and knowing when we usually end up talking

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on Telegram, it's probably late. Yeah, I think

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I'll stay up late. Especially Philip. I get telegram

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messages from Philip at like midnight eastern

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time and it's like, wait a minute, isn't it like

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4 in the morning? That's true somehow. That would

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be 6 in the morning. I'm not sure if that makes

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it better. Knowing Philip is a raid right now,

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that's probably still written before he goes

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to bed. Well, we want to talk about this new

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contest and the idea of some youth organized

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contest. It's been floating around for a long

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time, but a week ago you made the big announcement

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that Yoda is going to launch the contest. So

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tell us a little bit about the reasons that Yoda

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decided to do this contest. I'll take up the

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question, Neil. So I can give you a little insight

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on how things developed regarding this contest.

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As we as the Team Yoda in Region 1 are already

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a big initiative, we established already the

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Youth Contest Program some years ago. to give

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youngsters the possibility to experience the

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contest world itself from one of Europe's big

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gun stations, such as LX -7i from Luxembourg,

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amongst others of course. This already created

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some activity besides the annual December Yoda

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month activity. We're also a Yoda region too,

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so in North and South America very active nowadays.

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We have also... the activity throughout our sub

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-regional and summer camps, of course, where

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camp stations are set up. There is some activity,

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but within these difficult times at the moment,

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most of these events had to be canceled following

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the COVID guidelines. So we started to think

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within the IIU Region 1 Youth Working Group to

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think a bit ahead and search for a way to still

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have some activity amongst the Yoda community

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itself. That's when EmRush, the Hungarian Amateur

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Radio Society contacted us as the youth working

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group with some idea. So we thought, yeah, why

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not having such an idea? And that, yeah, was

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perfectly fitting and could create some activity

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throughout the year when there are no other events

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around. So we negotiated a bit with them how

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to implement such a Yoda contest. That's how

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the idea gathered. And Tommy. who is with us

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tonight, also told me that he had already developed

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a customizable contest log upload, which he would

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offer for Team Yoda to use. And yeah, so this

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is where the idea came up. And meanwhile, we

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also had one of our regular meetings with the

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Region 2 Yoda staff in the US and presented this

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kind of idea of a new contest. and you have been

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with us Neil and I think you really like the

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idea and you also gave great input to us to make

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this whole thing a great success and two long

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months later approximately we put a lot of time

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and energy into the preparation of the project

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we have launched it to the public and now we

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are really looking forward to the first event

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to be held on Saturday the 22nd of May from 8

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to 20 UTC yeah that's about it some some insights

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on how it all developed well guys tell us how

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this contest is going to work uh do the and and

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before i before i get the comments because i

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know i'll get the comments they're using the

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term youngster And and one of the things that

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we changed over here when we put together the

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camp and some of the activities was we changed

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the word to youth because the meanings are very

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different Over here youngster is is usually like

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a little kid and usually it's a really old person

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using that term and so we used youth but but

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over there they youth is kind of a Has a negative

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connotation to it. So, so yeah, I know it's it's

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it's youth over here. It's youngsters over there.

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So, but so they are youngsters. Yes. And it still

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spells the same. It still spells Yoda. So Do

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youngsters, youth, earn more points? Are they

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worth more points? Are the older hams welcome

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to participate in the contest? How's this going

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to work and who participates? Well, by far and

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large, to some degree, let's say, if you're just

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listening it on the radio, like stumble upon

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the contest, it's going to sound like all Asia.

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contest if anybody has participated there so

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exchange is RSC and age but there are more points

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for youngsters so that's the like limit is at

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25 so at 25 you're still a youngster so I am

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still a youngster for this year no longer for

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next year Well, actually for next year as well,

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because we count the age beginning of at first

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of January, which I missed by a few days. So

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I can do that next year as well. So more points

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for youngsters and slightly more points for people

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like even younger youngsters. And then otherwise

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multipliers are the different ages you work per

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band. So it's like older hams. are basically

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going to be multiplier because obviously their

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age is more spread out between 26 and, I don't

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know, 85 or so. But the youngsters are obviously

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compressed and effectively like 10 to 25. But

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youngsters are worth a lot more points. So one

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point for a non DX station on the same continent,

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three points for a DX station. And then regardless

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of same continent or the X youngsters over the

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10 to 13 points depending on age. There are a

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few categories. Mostly single operator, there's

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three band mixed. So you can work wherever but

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like that category, your three best bands are

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only gonna be counted. So that's great for people

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having like compromised antennas or similar,

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because single band can often turn into a chore.

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try for half an hour, but everybody's on the

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different band. So that way you have three bands

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mixed like compromise between having like a huge

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elaborate antenna farm that works on all bands

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versus the single band category that gets boring

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quickly. That category has both an old age and

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a youngster category. So those two are like scored

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separately. There's of course all bands once

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again split between open and youngsters. There's

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some mixed category, all bands for six hours

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only, but that's also only for youngsters. I

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guess this has probably got to be more popular

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with the younger operators, like people still

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in school or so, not students that don't have

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anything else to do either. Then there's multi

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-operator. but we require youngsters at the station

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as well. So two youngsters for one non -youngster

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operator. And other than that, it's mostly standard

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and multi -operation category as well. So yeah,

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that's pretty much how it works. After that,

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it's a standard contest. Everybody works, everybody.

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So it's not like work goal Germany or... where

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it's like only US and elsewhere. So everybody

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works everybody. Doesn't matter if like same

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country, different country, different continent.

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That's all the same. The rest should be fairly

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normal. The full rules can of course be found

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at ham -youta .com slash contest. That also has

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links to like log upload and rules and a bazillion

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other languages once we get the translation sorted

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out. So most of them are going to be still coming

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soon, but some are there. So should for some

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reason you eat the rules in German or Hungarian

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or Swedish, those are there as well. The rest

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is going to come soon, including Japanese, for

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example, and a few others. So that's where you

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find hopefully everything. Yes. All right. Well,

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that sounds like a neat, neat idea to. count

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you know the ages differently but keep everybody

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involved and encourage you know youth participation

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but but we're still keeping us oldsters who used

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to be youngsters on the air involved as well

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and keep keep the bands busy for everybody so

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Tell us when the contest is. Now I know that

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this is not like, you know, a lot of them is

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once a year. There's a little difference. So,

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uh, when is the contest and then how can people

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participate? What should they do to, uh, to just

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participate in the contest? So basically we have

00:18:21.990 --> 00:18:25.150
three rounds, Neil. The first round, as I already

00:18:25.150 --> 00:18:30.210
told you, is the 22nd of May, from 8 to 19 .59

00:18:30.210 --> 00:18:33.910
UTC. We also have a second round planned for

00:18:33.910 --> 00:18:38.690
Saturday, the 17th of July, from 10 to 21 .59

00:18:38.690 --> 00:18:43.289
UTC. And the third round on Thursday, the 30th

00:18:43.289 --> 00:18:49.799
of December, from 1200 to 23 .59 UTC. And as

00:18:49.799 --> 00:18:55.359
you already see, we have varying times where

00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:59.400
the contest takes place. That's because we want

00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:03.240
to cover the whole world and give every youngster

00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:07.539
the same possibility to participate within this

00:19:07.539 --> 00:19:12.279
new Jota contest. So we are varying every round

00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:16.559
for two hours. And how can you participate? Just

00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:20.910
get your HF station set up. or visit your neighbor

00:19:20.910 --> 00:19:24.650
or your Elma around the corner and get on the

00:19:24.650 --> 00:19:28.430
bands and work everybody you can hear in CW as

00:19:28.430 --> 00:19:31.470
well as SSP. As Marcus told us already, it's

00:19:31.470 --> 00:19:35.190
a mixed contest. So Morse code as well as phone

00:19:35.190 --> 00:19:37.990
will be available. And yeah, just get on the

00:19:37.990 --> 00:19:42.509
air and have fun during the contest. And let's

00:19:42.509 --> 00:19:46.089
talk a little bit too about this. You all are

00:19:46.089 --> 00:19:50.470
putting this on, but it is a worldwide Yoda event.

00:19:50.710 --> 00:19:53.369
So we have, you know, the youth on the air that

00:19:53.369 --> 00:19:56.849
started over here. You know, we started planning

00:19:56.849 --> 00:20:01.269
our camp and doing some of those activities with

00:20:01.269 --> 00:20:04.190
Yoda month and that kind of thing over here.

00:20:04.369 --> 00:20:08.650
And then down in region three in Oceania, there's

00:20:08.650 --> 00:20:11.589
a lot of activity down there too. So talk a little

00:20:11.589 --> 00:20:16.599
bit about them. Sure, so we also have our friends

00:20:16.599 --> 00:20:22.559
in region 3 which is When they are just developed

00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:26.900
developing a yeah a yoda program there as well.

00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:32.380
So we already had guests from from for example,

00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:37.450
Japan from New Zealand's during our region one

00:20:37.450 --> 00:20:40.809
summer camps. So they get impressions how Yoda

00:20:40.809 --> 00:20:44.849
is working over here in Europe, Africa, Middle

00:20:44.849 --> 00:20:49.289
East, and Northern Asia. So yeah, they have been

00:20:49.289 --> 00:20:52.750
really impressed and therefore there was already

00:20:52.750 --> 00:20:57.450
a camp held in New Zealand recently, where about

00:20:57.450 --> 00:21:03.140
25 people met, 25 youth, youngsters. Yeah, they

00:21:03.140 --> 00:21:07.140
have been having a camp station as well. They

00:21:07.140 --> 00:21:09.839
are also participating within the December Yoda

00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:13.880
month where 31 days of activity take place around

00:21:13.880 --> 00:21:16.500
the world and you can work the Yoda special event

00:21:16.500 --> 00:21:21.859
stations. Yeah, so Region 3 is developing. We

00:21:21.859 --> 00:21:25.759
are in great contact with the IAU youth working

00:21:25.759 --> 00:21:29.829
group from Region 3. and try to help them as

00:21:29.829 --> 00:21:34.289
good as possible so they will be successful in

00:21:34.289 --> 00:21:39.609
the future and get everything solved. Yeah, so

00:21:39.609 --> 00:21:42.869
that's the current state with Region 3 and as

00:21:42.869 --> 00:21:46.349
we are with Region 2, we try to assist and get

00:21:46.349 --> 00:21:50.750
input and stuff and we are helping out each other

00:21:50.750 --> 00:21:54.869
all over. I would say we benefit from each other,

00:21:55.109 --> 00:21:58.869
Region 1, 2 and 3. Yeah, well, we sure appreciate

00:21:58.869 --> 00:22:01.910
you know you all taking the lead on on this one

00:22:01.910 --> 00:22:05.910
and and the December Yoda month and then you

00:22:05.910 --> 00:22:10.089
know, we were we're trying to invite you know

00:22:10.089 --> 00:22:14.210
some of the region one people we've got one scheduled

00:22:14.210 --> 00:22:17.109
to come over from Iceland if if the borders are

00:22:17.109 --> 00:22:20.990
open we'll see how that goes, but But we're trying

00:22:20.990 --> 00:22:25.089
to you know when we try to to donate and give

00:22:25.089 --> 00:22:28.170
back for Yoda month and that kind of thing too.

00:22:28.690 --> 00:22:32.150
So that's important that we give back some too,

00:22:32.150 --> 00:22:37.490
but we're developing here as well and we made

00:22:37.490 --> 00:22:41.210
the announcement today that plans for our summer

00:22:41.210 --> 00:22:47.250
camp are still on. We are good to go unless things

00:22:47.250 --> 00:22:51.950
take a terrible turn which we don't anticipate.

00:22:53.309 --> 00:22:55.089
We don't know what kind of restrictions we're

00:22:55.089 --> 00:22:58.329
going to have, but, uh, you know, we, we obviously

00:22:58.329 --> 00:23:03.349
will have some, um, but, um, we're looking like,

00:23:03.349 --> 00:23:07.309
um, you know, things are pretty good over here.

00:23:07.410 --> 00:23:13.069
So, uh, we're hoping to, uh, have that happen

00:23:13.069 --> 00:23:17.690
in, in July without any issues. So, uh, that

00:23:17.690 --> 00:23:21.009
announcement came out today. So we'll share that

00:23:21.009 --> 00:23:24.940
as well. So, We'll talk a little bit more about

00:23:24.940 --> 00:23:27.900
the contest and we'll open up the phone lines

00:23:27.900 --> 00:23:35.799
here at 859 -982 -7373. So we'll take some phone

00:23:35.799 --> 00:23:38.859
calls, we'll take some tweets. Comments, if you're

00:23:38.859 --> 00:23:41.200
on Spreaker, just type in the comments there

00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:44.400
and that'll pop up on the screen as well. And

00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:47.640
I'll be back with Philip, Tommy, and Marcus right

00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:51.000
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00:27:14.099 --> 00:27:17.539
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00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:45.920
of the Week. Guy walked into a bar with a pair

00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:48.839
of jumper cables tied around his neck. The bartender

00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:51.380
said, you can come in, but don't be starting

00:27:51.380 --> 00:28:25.099
anything. Tommy was saying before the show, he

00:28:25.099 --> 00:28:27.019
was going to tell me jokes during the commercial

00:28:27.019 --> 00:28:37.220
breaks, but he didn't. All right. Well, it's

00:28:37.220 --> 00:28:39.299
time for your calls right now. So if you have

00:28:39.299 --> 00:28:42.279
a question for Philip or Marcus or Tommy, give

00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:49.000
us a call at eight five nine. 9827373 or tweet

00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:52.359
us at ham talk live or if you're on Spreaker

00:28:52.359 --> 00:28:54.680
type in the comments there and if you're listening

00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:59.220
to us on WTWW or on the podcast Edition, you

00:28:59.220 --> 00:29:01.259
won't be able to reach us live since we're doing

00:29:01.259 --> 00:29:04.920
this on Thursday night, so Tommy talk a little

00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:09.019
bit about All the cool computer stuff here. Talk

00:29:09.019 --> 00:29:14.640
about some of the uploading of the logs and the

00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:18.160
processing of the data here for this contest.

00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:25.539
Yeah, okay. So it's been basically three or four

00:29:25.539 --> 00:29:32.460
years from now already when our team of IT guys

00:29:32.460 --> 00:29:36.799
have been at by mass to develop something like

00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:40.420
a contest evaluator software and they haven't

00:29:40.420 --> 00:29:43.680
thought that it's gonna be like so worldwide

00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:47.259
it was basically for the first time for small

00:29:47.259 --> 00:29:51.299
regional contests or Hungarian contests like

00:29:51.299 --> 00:29:55.200
national championships and similar but since

00:29:55.200 --> 00:30:00.519
then we have also taken up the AJDX contest and

00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:05.680
I had already some inquiries from other international

00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:10.359
contests to include them and to evaluate the

00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:14.519
contest for them. It's basically like a site,

00:30:15.259 --> 00:30:20.140
like a normal log upload site which you can see

00:30:20.140 --> 00:30:26.099
in many contests. It's differences is right now

00:30:26.099 --> 00:30:31.430
it's containing many many Hungarian and international

00:30:31.430 --> 00:30:36.609
contests already and it's developing and Yeah,

00:30:36.609 --> 00:30:40.009
of course I can go on about the latest technology

00:30:40.009 --> 00:30:43.569
stuff and everything, but I'm not sure if everybody's

00:30:43.569 --> 00:30:48.769
interested in that Well the nice thing is though

00:30:48.769 --> 00:30:52.309
that you can get in there and look up stuff that

00:30:52.309 --> 00:30:59.160
that's that's always cool Yeah When the idea

00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:03.680
came up to do a Yota contest, we have been thinking

00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:08.140
that, okay, so we can basically make some small

00:31:08.140 --> 00:31:12.779
changes, some improvements in place, and we can

00:31:12.779 --> 00:31:17.859
do a Yota contest on this one. Which means that,

00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:20.900
of course, we don't have to evaluate the logs

00:31:20.900 --> 00:31:23.940
in an Excel or something like this. It's a more

00:31:23.940 --> 00:31:28.859
professional way. with algorithms that are already

00:31:28.859 --> 00:31:32.059
tried out in international contests with more

00:31:32.059 --> 00:31:38.559
than 2000 logs each. So, yeah, it's working and

00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:42.480
it's constantly developing, getting the new ideas

00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:47.500
always from the, I would say from the mistakes

00:31:47.500 --> 00:31:50.839
of the operators. We are trying to eliminate

00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:54.079
those mistakes made by the operators by making

00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:59.009
it more straightforward. easy to use and responsive.

00:32:00.190 --> 00:32:04.910
That's the biggest issue always, to be more easy

00:32:04.910 --> 00:32:07.869
to use and responsive. I think we are starting

00:32:07.869 --> 00:32:13.349
to make a good job at it. I think you all have

00:32:13.349 --> 00:32:16.190
done an excellent job with the the December Yoda

00:32:16.190 --> 00:32:21.130
month and I'm sure that This will be Equally

00:32:21.130 --> 00:32:25.569
as good And you know, I just kind of sit back

00:32:25.569 --> 00:32:28.569
here and and think about this, you know, we've

00:32:28.569 --> 00:32:34.589
got we've got Philip that's 23 we've got Marcus

00:32:34.589 --> 00:32:38.690
that's 25 and we've got Tommy that's that's 22

00:32:38.690 --> 00:32:43.269
and these guys are are Doing the work they're

00:32:43.269 --> 00:32:45.190
putting together the contest. They're putting

00:32:45.190 --> 00:32:48.329
together the rules. They're doing the IT work

00:32:48.329 --> 00:32:53.109
to make all the logging and all the calculations

00:32:53.109 --> 00:32:56.630
and checking the logs and making all of that

00:32:56.630 --> 00:33:00.069
work and that's what what's unique about Yoda

00:33:00.069 --> 00:33:05.769
is that the young people are the ones that are

00:33:05.769 --> 00:33:09.059
doing things Mostly for themselves, of course

00:33:09.059 --> 00:33:13.819
with some some help but it it's really a big

00:33:13.819 --> 00:33:16.099
change and I think that's one of the things that

00:33:16.099 --> 00:33:19.740
I kind of fight a little bit over here is you

00:33:19.740 --> 00:33:23.440
know We got to make sure that that we keep the

00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:29.079
youth doing The planning and doing the work and

00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:33.759
and we're trying to get it the Infrastructure

00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:39.990
set up So that can happen and and so I look forward

00:33:39.990 --> 00:33:44.529
to when when we're a little more structured and

00:33:44.529 --> 00:33:47.869
and that can happen more but we have a lot of

00:33:47.869 --> 00:33:53.750
that happening already and I'm just You know

00:33:53.750 --> 00:33:56.950
amazed even even you know, the graphic design

00:33:56.950 --> 00:34:00.150
is and publicity and and all these things are

00:34:00.150 --> 00:34:03.569
done are done by the youth I just wanted to say,

00:34:03.569 --> 00:34:08.170
Neil, that, yeah, we have a big team. It's not

00:34:08.170 --> 00:34:13.250
only us three. There's also AJ6PX, a Java from

00:34:13.250 --> 00:34:16.110
Hungary within the contest committee. And there's

00:34:16.110 --> 00:34:20.329
a big PR group behind our back and getting our

00:34:20.329 --> 00:34:24.170
bags free with doing all the work, graphic designs,

00:34:24.690 --> 00:34:27.329
getting text done. writing press releases and

00:34:27.329 --> 00:34:31.289
stuff. This is really great support also within

00:34:31.289 --> 00:34:35.210
the youth working group. So big kudos to them.

00:34:35.550 --> 00:34:38.150
They are doing an excellent job with what they

00:34:38.150 --> 00:34:41.409
are doing. And as you said, they are not older

00:34:41.409 --> 00:34:45.889
than 22. They are all our age, all the same age

00:34:45.889 --> 00:34:53.559
level, and all are under Even our IT with the

00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:56.300
Yota homepage and stuff, they are all under 26

00:34:56.300 --> 00:35:01.559
and this is fascinating. It's just great to have

00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:05.719
them aboard the team. Yeah, even the translations

00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:08.739
for the rules are made by youngsters into different

00:35:08.739 --> 00:35:12.739
languages, I hope. Yeah, our community is just

00:35:12.739 --> 00:35:16.119
insane They are contacting us. Can we translate?

00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:19.099
Can we translate? We are really we really want

00:35:19.099 --> 00:35:21.820
to do this Contribute to the other program. That's

00:35:21.820 --> 00:35:24.400
that's amazing. Yeah, so thanks also to these

00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:30.599
guys Well, it's it's been really neat to see

00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:36.389
all of this develop and you know 40 let's see.

00:35:36.409 --> 00:35:40.130
What is it now 45 46 years ago when I became

00:35:40.130 --> 00:35:43.710
a ham at five years old it was you know, none

00:35:43.710 --> 00:35:48.889
of this existed and So it's just so cool to see

00:35:48.889 --> 00:35:51.429
all of this and then I think that's some of the

00:35:51.429 --> 00:35:55.469
motivation for me to To do this is to provide

00:35:55.469 --> 00:35:59.289
that that you know, I wasn't able to take advantage

00:35:59.289 --> 00:36:03.880
of it at that point In my life and you know,

00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:09.599
it's growing. I think our youth are growing There

00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:14.000
as as one of your slogans is there is youth in

00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:18.559
amateur radio But we're working to you know,

00:36:18.659 --> 00:36:21.400
get them more involved and and take ownership

00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:26.760
of things a lot more and It's it's starting to

00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:33.340
move things Definitely. Yeah We have so many

00:36:33.340 --> 00:36:37.739
active young people, not only over here in Europe.

00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:41.440
As you said, Neil, we have so many young people

00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:45.639
we don't even know yet about. So with the whole

00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:49.360
Yoda initiative, we try to find those young people

00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:51.940
around the world and get them involved into amateur

00:36:51.940 --> 00:36:55.880
radio to not let this great common hobby die.

00:36:56.579 --> 00:36:59.969
So we have a future. And yeah, this is probably

00:36:59.969 --> 00:37:04.690
the most important. We as the youth are kind

00:37:04.690 --> 00:37:07.710
of part of the future of amateur radio. So that's

00:37:07.710 --> 00:37:11.969
why we try to get as many events started as possible

00:37:11.969 --> 00:37:14.969
and also have the other contest now. So let's

00:37:14.969 --> 00:37:18.849
see. And probably we'll find some more youth

00:37:18.849 --> 00:37:22.639
and youngsters on the air during that. yeah,

00:37:22.820 --> 00:37:26.300
during that new contest and yeah, hopefully we'll

00:37:26.300 --> 00:37:30.619
get them involved into future projects and stuff

00:37:30.619 --> 00:37:37.469
within the Yoda program. 8 5 9 9 8 2 73 73 is

00:37:37.469 --> 00:37:40.630
the number if you'd like to chime in or shoot

00:37:40.630 --> 00:37:46.469
us a tweet on at ham talk live or Type in the

00:37:46.469 --> 00:37:49.510
comments on Spreaker here and just checking those

00:37:49.510 --> 00:37:54.150
to see what we have Let's talk a little bit about

00:37:54.150 --> 00:37:59.139
Yoda online because that's been One of the big

00:37:59.139 --> 00:38:03.400
things for you all from the last year and we've

00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:06.139
had a little crossover with that in the other

00:38:06.139 --> 00:38:09.400
regions as well, but Talk a little bit about

00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:12.400
the Yoda online program and there's another one

00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:19.039
coming up here pretty soon Yes, so y 'all don't

00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:24.250
mind came up in early 2020 as what Well, we've

00:38:24.250 --> 00:38:27.210
mostly been doing around that time was writing

00:38:27.210 --> 00:38:31.849
very sad blog posts and use updates about cancellations

00:38:31.849 --> 00:38:40.110
of way too many events. So it's like, the thing

00:38:40.110 --> 00:38:42.690
we had to do like our graphics team was mostly

00:38:42.690 --> 00:38:45.269
busy with like taking the logos from all the

00:38:45.269 --> 00:38:47.349
events that we have planned and then like putting

00:38:47.349 --> 00:38:50.539
a red cross over them and then handing it over

00:38:50.539 --> 00:38:52.719
to be published and it was like, I think it was

00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:56.360
six events that were canceled or so. It was pretty

00:38:56.360 --> 00:39:00.860
absurd and pretty sad to see. So we tried to

00:39:00.860 --> 00:39:04.280
come up with something, some way to have Yota

00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:07.539
stay alive in any way while all our in -person

00:39:07.539 --> 00:39:11.079
events were getting canceled. And that led us

00:39:11.079 --> 00:39:14.639
to Yota Online, which is, well, let's just say

00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:16.920
some sort of like online format that's usually

00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:21.179
about an hour. live stream on YouTube, Twitch

00:39:21.179 --> 00:39:27.099
and Facebook. Run by youngsters with youngsters

00:39:27.099 --> 00:39:30.139
as guests coming in presenting various topics.

00:39:32.500 --> 00:39:39.119
And that has worked out reasonably well. We had

00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:44.340
on some events, we have lots of views. And as

00:39:44.340 --> 00:39:46.900
you said, there's another one coming up very

00:39:46.900 --> 00:39:53.610
soon. Two weeks pretty much exactly well a few

00:39:53.610 --> 00:39:56.590
hours less than two weeks because we're scheduling

00:39:56.590 --> 00:40:02.750
after European time So that's gonna be our 12th

00:40:02.750 --> 00:40:05.909
one then and it's also gonna be the last one

00:40:05.909 --> 00:40:10.590
of the current format As we've as nice as it

00:40:10.590 --> 00:40:14.789
was it was a lot of work and viewership has unfortunately

00:40:14.789 --> 00:40:18.710
been going down All the time so we're trying

00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:21.440
we're gonna be trying out and use stuff after

00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:24.579
that so the current format is gonna be done after

00:40:24.579 --> 00:40:27.840
one year then but we're gonna try out something

00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.920
new see if we can make something more engaging

00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:34.079
because right now it's like the team the youth

00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:36.880
working group it's a few guests and then people

00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:41.079
in youtube chats or twitch chat or similar which

00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:44.940
is of course great to see all the people but

00:40:44.940 --> 00:40:48.760
we'll see if we can maybe Try something where

00:40:48.760 --> 00:40:52.059
you can get people even more involved make something

00:40:52.059 --> 00:40:56.760
more interactive So that might be coming up Very

00:40:56.760 --> 00:41:00.179
soon, even though they like current delta online

00:41:00.179 --> 00:41:04.119
format is gonna end after this 12th session in

00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:08.739
two weeks Okay, so to find out more about that

00:41:08.739 --> 00:41:14.659
low go over to ham dash Yoda calm We also post

00:41:14.659 --> 00:41:17.940
that on youth on the air org so you can check

00:41:17.940 --> 00:41:21.679
it out there as well and And see what's going

00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:26.320
on with the program. Well, we're just about out

00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:31.420
of time here So, let me check again and make

00:41:31.420 --> 00:41:35.260
sure we didn't miss any questions as we said

00:41:35.260 --> 00:41:39.260
Last week we did such a great job that nobody

00:41:39.260 --> 00:41:44.750
had any questions. So So I think we've got everything

00:41:44.750 --> 00:41:52.210
covered here. But Philip, just recap for us the

00:41:52.210 --> 00:41:55.969
contest, when it is, how people can participate,

00:41:56.449 --> 00:42:00.210
and where they can find all the rules and information.

00:42:01.690 --> 00:42:05.849
Sure, Neil. No problem. So again, the first round

00:42:05.849 --> 00:42:10.599
will be coming up on the 22nd of May. So roughly

00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:14.260
in about five weeks, the 22nd of May from 8 to

00:42:14.260 --> 00:42:19.019
19 .59 UTC. We will have a second round on the

00:42:19.019 --> 00:42:23.659
17th of July from 10 to 21 .59 UTC. And the third

00:42:23.659 --> 00:42:27.019
round end of the year on the 30th of December,

00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:33.880
Thursday 30th of December from 12 to 23 .59 UTC.

00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:37.519
Who can participate? Every amateur radio operator

00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:41.010
in the world. doesn't need to be a youngster

00:42:41.010 --> 00:42:46.030
or a youth. Everybody can participate. You can

00:42:46.030 --> 00:42:50.610
see all the contest rules exactly on ham -yoda

00:42:50.610 --> 00:42:57.550
.com slash contest. Then it will take place on

00:42:57.550 --> 00:43:01.210
80 meters, on 3 .5 megahertz, on 40 meters, seven

00:43:01.210 --> 00:43:05.340
megahertz. on 20 meters, 40 megahertz, 15 meters,

00:43:05.420 --> 00:43:09.400
21 megahertz, and 10 meters, 28 megahertz. Modes

00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:12.179
used will be Morse code as well as phone, CW

00:43:12.179 --> 00:43:16.739
and SSB. We have different categories also, especially

00:43:16.739 --> 00:43:22.380
for youth. We have special categories for oldsters,

00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:27.340
to say like this. We have a multi -operator,

00:43:27.500 --> 00:43:30.199
single transmitter, all bands mixed category

00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:35.989
with the limitation that one non -youngster has

00:43:35.989 --> 00:43:42.250
to be fit by two youngster operators. We have

00:43:42.250 --> 00:43:48.289
also an SWL short -wave listener category and

00:43:48.289 --> 00:43:53.469
furthermore we have some, yeah, it's uncommon

00:43:53.469 --> 00:43:57.150
but for us a really important category, we have

00:43:57.150 --> 00:44:01.260
the station sponsors. where station owners invite

00:44:01.260 --> 00:44:04.639
youngsters and then may apply to a separate category

00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:08.119
with photos submitted to contest at ham -yoda

00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:12.019
.com to our official email address. So also if

00:44:12.019 --> 00:44:14.800
you have any questions regarding the rules, if

00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.599
you read through them on ham -yoda .com slash

00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:20.179
contest, if you don't understand what's written

00:44:20.179 --> 00:44:23.199
there, just drop us an email at contest at ham

00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:28.980
-yoda .com. The station sponsors needs to Yeah,

00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:33.659
submit a photo of the youth operating from their

00:44:33.659 --> 00:44:36.579
station and also the youth has to provide the

00:44:36.579 --> 00:44:40.579
call sign in the operator list that they can

00:44:40.579 --> 00:44:46.059
apply for this category. The exchange will be

00:44:46.059 --> 00:44:51.159
a normal report, so RS or RST plus H on the 1st

00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:55.239
of January each year. Multi -operators will have

00:44:55.239 --> 00:45:00.170
the same. but it has always to be less than 25.

00:45:00.449 --> 00:45:04.250
So 25 is the maximum age for a multi -operator.

00:45:05.210 --> 00:45:09.769
How does the scoring work? So if you have a QSO

00:45:09.769 --> 00:45:13.730
with your own continent, it's... a station aged

00:45:13.730 --> 00:45:16.230
over 25, so it's a non -youngster, it's worth

00:45:16.230 --> 00:45:19.949
one point. If you have a QSO with another continent,

00:45:20.210 --> 00:45:23.670
so it's a DX station with a station aged over

00:45:23.670 --> 00:45:26.349
25, it's also non -youngster, it's worth three

00:45:26.349 --> 00:45:30.070
points, so same continent, one point, DX, three

00:45:30.070 --> 00:45:36.150
points. If you work a youngster or a youth, regardless

00:45:36.150 --> 00:45:40.449
of any continent, under the age of 12, it's 13

00:45:40.449 --> 00:45:44.820
points. From 12 to 16 years, it's worth 12 points.

00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:49.639
From 17 to 21 years, it's 11 points. And from

00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:52.820
22 to 25 years, it's worth 10 points. So you

00:45:52.820 --> 00:45:55.260
see, if you work the youngsters on the air or

00:45:55.260 --> 00:45:58.960
the youth on the air, you will get a lot of points.

00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:04.039
The multipliers are different exchanges. So the

00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:07.539
ages. So everybody gives the age, 59, 599 plus

00:46:07.539 --> 00:46:11.469
age. Work per band, regardless of the mode. And

00:46:11.469 --> 00:46:14.150
the final result will be the sum of points earned

00:46:14.150 --> 00:46:17.090
per band's end mode multiplied by the sum of

00:46:17.090 --> 00:46:21.949
multipliers worked per band. You can easily send

00:46:21.949 --> 00:46:27.110
us the log, Cabrillo format, V2 .0 or higher,

00:46:28.809 --> 00:46:32.530
to contest .ham -jura .com. So you will find

00:46:32.530 --> 00:46:35.489
that all in the rules again as well. And the

00:46:35.489 --> 00:46:37.969
log submission deadline will be seven days after

00:46:37.969 --> 00:46:42.010
the end of the contest. You will also get an

00:46:42.010 --> 00:46:45.050
email confirmation once you've uploaded your

00:46:45.050 --> 00:46:49.650
logbook. And as Tommy said before, this is really

00:46:49.650 --> 00:46:53.690
straightforward. You just drop the Cabrillo Formats

00:46:53.690 --> 00:46:58.349
log file. You will just enter the category with

00:46:58.349 --> 00:47:01.809
a drop -down. You will see what you've operated

00:47:01.809 --> 00:47:04.369
and then everything is okay. You will get the

00:47:04.369 --> 00:47:08.980
confirmation email. Then the Yotakantas committee

00:47:08.980 --> 00:47:13.760
will be doing the log check afterwards. We will

00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:16.519
have special wooden plaques for winners of each

00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:21.179
category. And yeah, that's about it. So if you

00:47:21.179 --> 00:47:25.059
want to participate, just do it. We have on our

00:47:25.059 --> 00:47:28.920
YouTube channel, at Ham Yota, we have already

00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:32.789
prepared two supporting videos from... well -known

00:47:32.789 --> 00:47:35.230
worldwide contester. So if you fancy, just have

00:47:35.230 --> 00:47:37.849
a look there who will be on the air. We will

00:47:37.849 --> 00:47:40.869
be having stations from Thailand, from Australia,

00:47:41.090 --> 00:47:44.429
from New Zealand, from the US, Canada, all over

00:47:44.429 --> 00:47:48.969
Europe, Africa even. We will be having, as I

00:47:48.969 --> 00:47:52.710
said, stations worldwide. So hopefully also youngsters

00:47:52.710 --> 00:47:56.210
will be getting the chance to work some new countries

00:47:56.210 --> 00:47:59.190
during the contest. And this is probably the

00:47:59.190 --> 00:48:03.010
thrill. for each of us participating and we are

00:48:03.010 --> 00:48:06.869
really looking forward to get you down our logbook

00:48:06.869 --> 00:48:09.650
and hopefully there will be some great pileups

00:48:09.650 --> 00:48:16.929
to be run by Yoda people, Neil. Yep, that's definitely

00:48:16.929 --> 00:48:20.230
a goal so we're looking forward to that and again

00:48:20.230 --> 00:48:24.500
that's May 22nd for the first one. And the one

00:48:24.500 --> 00:48:29.260
in July is going to be the day after our our

00:48:29.260 --> 00:48:33.599
Yoda camp here in the Americas over here in Westchester,

00:48:33.820 --> 00:48:38.739
Ohio. It'll be the following day and then then

00:48:38.739 --> 00:48:41.659
the end of the year during December Yoda month.

00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:47.340
So it's going to be a lot of fun and really looking

00:48:47.340 --> 00:48:54.260
forward to it. Not only you. Well guys, thank

00:48:54.260 --> 00:48:58.579
you so much for staying up so late and being

00:48:58.579 --> 00:49:03.179
on we'll call it late instead of early and We

00:49:03.179 --> 00:49:06.800
we appreciate all that you're doing to support

00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:11.340
ham radio and youth and ham radio and Being on

00:49:11.340 --> 00:49:15.300
the show tonight to share some of that with us

00:49:15.300 --> 00:49:19.000
Thanks for having us Neil was a great pleasure

00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:22.309
being with you on the show tonight and Yeah,

00:49:22.389 --> 00:49:24.389
good luck with your camp in region two. We'll

00:49:24.389 --> 00:49:27.070
be looking forward and happy to distribute any

00:49:27.070 --> 00:49:31.349
news we get from you. And yeah, good luck. Thanks

00:49:31.349 --> 00:49:35.889
for having us and see you soon. Yeah, thanks

00:49:35.889 --> 00:49:41.610
for the opportunity, Neil. Good night. Yes, good

00:49:41.610 --> 00:49:44.690
night and good morning. Good luck. Good luck

00:49:44.690 --> 00:49:48.269
with the camp. Hope it works out the way you

00:49:48.269 --> 00:49:54.309
plan to. Yeah, we've got a good plan. So if we

00:49:54.309 --> 00:49:58.010
can follow it, we're in great shape. So Thank

00:49:58.010 --> 00:50:00.050
you, Marcus. Thank you, Tommy. Thank you Philip

00:50:00.050 --> 00:50:03.469
for being here and I'm sure we'll be we'll be

00:50:03.469 --> 00:50:06.610
talking on telegram again soon. Probably no Like

00:50:06.610 --> 00:50:09.250
I said knowing Philip it'll it'll be in a few

00:50:09.250 --> 00:50:17.690
hours. So Most probably. Yeah Sam is the same

00:50:17.690 --> 00:50:20.869
way though. I mean, I'm talking to Sam over here

00:50:20.869 --> 00:50:25.829
and it's like midnight, 1230. You know, we are

00:50:25.829 --> 00:50:28.309
all avid contest, contesters and the night shift

00:50:28.309 --> 00:50:35.650
has never stopped us from texting. Yes. All right.

00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:42.679
Yeah. I just wanted to say, or the pilot never

00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:45.800
stopped you from testing. Yeah, that's, that's

00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:53.239
probably something that that's a, that should

00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:57.579
count. Is that SO2R? If you're, if you're, if

00:50:57.579 --> 00:51:00.619
you're testing while you're contesting, yeah,

00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:07.079
you can never have too much monitors. So Yes,

00:51:07.239 --> 00:51:09.559
exactly. I've been trying to convince my wife

00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:13.699
of that as we're moving into a new house this

00:51:13.699 --> 00:51:16.599
weekend, or at least she is, and then I'm following

00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:20.159
in a couple of months and I'm trying to convince

00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:22.239
her that, you know, there's no such thing as

00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:27.400
too many monitors, but I'm not sure that's really...

00:51:30.830 --> 00:51:35.710
It might be about as hard to explain as the number

00:51:35.710 --> 00:51:38.630
of antennas. The one you need is always four,

00:51:38.909 --> 00:51:41.050
at least one more than you have. The same with

00:51:41.050 --> 00:51:44.909
radios. I think they all share the same problem

00:51:44.909 --> 00:51:47.590
of trying to achieve the appropriate wife approval

00:51:47.590 --> 00:51:52.440
factor. Exactly. The problem with anything. See

00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:55.300
these young people have it all figured out. They

00:51:55.300 --> 00:51:57.900
know what's going on. I mean, I've been at Hamvention

00:51:57.900 --> 00:52:01.260
presenting like a Hobart radio and I've had the

00:52:01.260 --> 00:52:04.340
discussion with many hams about whether one needs

00:52:04.340 --> 00:52:07.579
more radios or not. And it always, always falls

00:52:07.579 --> 00:52:11.079
down to the same thing. Yep. It's always one

00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:16.860
more. Absolutely. All right. Well, that's a wrap

00:52:16.860 --> 00:52:19.719
for this week's edition of ham talk live. Thanks

00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:23.539
to my guests, Philip Springer, DK six SP Marcus

00:52:23.539 --> 00:52:28.599
grocer DL eight GM and Tommy Varo H a eight RT

00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:31.789
and everybody out in cyberspace for listening

00:52:31.789 --> 00:52:34.329
and invite you back next Thursday night, 9 p

00:52:34.329 --> 00:52:38.349
.m. Eastern time. Michael Coulter, WHCI will

00:52:38.349 --> 00:52:43.010
be here to talk about the Dayton Hamvention 2021

00:52:43.010 --> 00:52:48.510
virtual and on -air activities, since we won't

00:52:48.510 --> 00:52:52.969
have live in -person Hamvention this year once

00:52:52.969 --> 00:52:55.269
again. So we'll be talking about what's happening

00:52:55.269 --> 00:52:58.969
during Hamvention weekend. So make sure to tune

00:52:58.969 --> 00:53:01.329
in for that. And for a list of all of our upcoming

00:53:01.329 --> 00:53:05.989
guests, go to hamtalklive .com. And if you like

00:53:05.989 --> 00:53:08.489
the show, please leave us a review. That'll help

00:53:08.489 --> 00:53:11.570
others find the show faster. So for now, this

00:53:11.570 --> 00:53:17.289
is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, saying 7375. And may the

00:53:17.289 --> 00:53:34.500
good DX be yours. Thanks for watching!
