WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.620 This episode of HamTalk Live is brought to you 00:00:02.620 --> 00:00:06.019 by Tower Electronics. For connectors, cables, 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:12.919 and more, call 920 -435 -2973 or visit pl -259 00:00:12.919 --> 00:00:17.640 .com. And by ICOM, heard it, worked it, logged 00:00:17.640 --> 00:00:22.879 it. Visit www .icomamerica .com slash amateur 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:31.789 for more information about ICOM radios. Here 00:00:31.789 --> 00:00:37.729 we go, welcome to Hamtok Live Calling Let's Talk, 00:00:37.909 --> 00:00:42.429 Neil's your guide Hamtok Live, here we go on 00:00:42.429 --> 00:01:00.229 Hamtok Radio Good evening, everyone. This is 00:01:00.229 --> 00:01:04.769 HamTalk Live episode number 260. Ham radio for 00:01:04.769 --> 00:01:08.030 dummies, recorded live on Thursday, June 10th, 00:01:08.030 --> 00:01:12.269 2021. I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WP9VPG. Thanks 00:01:12.269 --> 00:01:16.129 for tuning into this episode of HamTalk Live. 00:01:16.290 --> 00:01:19.109 Tonight, we're joined by Ward Silver in Zero 00:01:19.109 --> 00:01:23.620 AX, and we'll take your calls live. later on 00:01:23.620 --> 00:01:26.540 in the show. It's great to be back after being 00:01:26.540 --> 00:01:30.760 on hiatus for three weeks with the move from 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:34.079 Bloomington, Indiana to Union, Kentucky, just 00:01:34.079 --> 00:01:38.019 outside of Cincinnati. And so this is the first 00:01:38.019 --> 00:01:42.920 attempt at the show from Union, Kentucky. So 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:47.620 hopefully everything will go well. I found everything 00:01:47.620 --> 00:01:52.750 but one cord. And I found a replacement right 00:01:52.750 --> 00:01:57.730 away. So hopefully everything sounds like it 00:01:57.730 --> 00:02:02.090 usually does and we'll get it all figured out. 00:02:02.090 --> 00:02:04.090 And if you want to see a picture of the new setup, 00:02:04.170 --> 00:02:06.390 you're not going to see one because it's just 00:02:06.390 --> 00:02:10.889 boxes. That's all there is. Well, you know, we 00:02:10.889 --> 00:02:15.590 had reruns on WTWW and so hope you enjoyed those. 00:02:15.629 --> 00:02:19.009 If you listen over there and Of course you can 00:02:19.009 --> 00:02:21.629 listen to any of our past shows anytime by visiting 00:02:21.629 --> 00:02:25.270 hamtalklive .com or your favorite podcast app 00:02:25.270 --> 00:02:29.430 or on YouTube. And you can catch the rebroadcast 00:02:29.430 --> 00:02:35.090 each week on WTWW that's 5085 AM. And that happens 00:02:35.090 --> 00:02:38.949 Saturday afternoons at about 3 .30 PM Eastern 00:02:38.949 --> 00:02:42.050 time. Well field day is coming up which means 00:02:42.050 --> 00:02:44.969 it's time once again for the 100 watts and a 00:02:44.969 --> 00:02:50.210 wire tune -up event June 11th through 13th, so 00:02:50.210 --> 00:02:56.330 that's that's now in UTC time So get out and 00:02:56.330 --> 00:02:59.150 get on the air. You can work alone as a member 00:02:59.150 --> 00:03:04.020 of a team either way and stations that set up 00:03:04.020 --> 00:03:06.520 portable antennas will be limited to 100 watts. 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:09.419 At the end of the event you can turn in your 00:03:09.419 --> 00:03:11.819 totals and be entered into a random drawing for 00:03:11.819 --> 00:03:15.120 prizes. The purpose of this is to just exercise 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:17.560 and test out the equipment in preparation for 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:22.199 field day. So that started at zero hundred UTC 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:27.199 and That's going to go through 2359 on Sunday. 00:03:27.460 --> 00:03:30.099 Any band, any mode, anywhere, even your shack. 00:03:30.659 --> 00:03:34.120 Just give your call sign. If you have a 100 watts 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:37.539 and a wire ID, give that. Your state, province, 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:42.500 or country. And a true signal report. So make 00:03:42.500 --> 00:03:46.199 sure you check out. Christian's 100 Watt to the 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:49.379 Wire tune -up event. So get your questions ready 00:03:49.379 --> 00:03:51.699 to go. If you're listening to us live on Thursday 00:03:51.699 --> 00:03:54.219 night, you can give us a call later on in the 00:03:54.219 --> 00:03:56.759 show. Let me give you the telephone number so 00:03:56.759 --> 00:04:01.300 you have that ready just in case, or actually 00:04:01.300 --> 00:04:03.900 not just in case, when it's time to call in, 00:04:03.900 --> 00:04:13.960 I should say. That number is 859 -982 -7378. 00:04:13.849 --> 00:04:18.290 73 again the phone number have that handy it's 00:04:18.290 --> 00:04:26.850 859 -982 -7373 we'll give that out again when 00:04:26.850 --> 00:04:29.310 it's time to call and a little later on in the 00:04:29.310 --> 00:04:33.019 show and you can also find it in all the descriptions 00:04:33.019 --> 00:04:37.339 and promotions for the show. So give us a call 00:04:37.339 --> 00:04:41.680 later on and we'll talk to Ward about the Ham 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:44.699 Radio for Dummies book. You can also tweet us 00:04:44.699 --> 00:04:48.759 if you'd rather type. It's at HamTalk Live on 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:51.800 Twitter and I'll be back with Ward right after 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:56.459 this word from ICOM America right here on HamTalk 00:04:56.459 --> 00:05:00.629 Live. It's that time of year again. Field day 00:05:00.629 --> 00:05:04.149 is from June 26th to 27th and ICOM has the base 00:05:04.149 --> 00:05:09.009 station of your dreams with the IC7300 and IC9700 00:05:09.009 --> 00:05:13.709 SDR transceivers and the portable SDR transceiver, 00:05:13.949 --> 00:05:17.790 the IC705. These amateur radios are top of the 00:05:17.790 --> 00:05:20.649 line and are the choice for DXers and contesters 00:05:20.649 --> 00:05:23.529 across the globe by helping operators cut through 00:05:23.529 --> 00:05:25.810 pileups, letting you work the bands and record 00:05:25.810 --> 00:05:29.670 those contacts. Be a field day leader with ICOM. 00:05:29.970 --> 00:05:34.110 Heard it, worked it, logged it. 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Tonight Ward Silver 00:08:35.429 --> 00:08:39.450 in Zero AX joins us on the Orlando Amateur Radio 00:08:39.450 --> 00:08:43.850 Club and Hamcation Hotline. Ward was first licensed 00:08:43.850 --> 00:08:47.350 at age 16 in 1972 and worked professionally in 00:08:47.350 --> 00:08:49.649 broadcasting and product development engineering. 00:08:50.470 --> 00:08:53.190 Ward is an avid contester and DXers and one of 00:08:53.190 --> 00:08:56.210 the founders of the World Radio Sport Team Championships. 00:08:56.850 --> 00:08:59.549 He is currently the president of the Yasme Foundation 00:08:59.549 --> 00:09:03.889 and the lead editor of the ARRL Handbook and 00:09:03.889 --> 00:09:07.039 Antenna Books. He's authored many others such 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:10.820 as a RL license study guides ham radio for dummies 00:09:10.820 --> 00:09:13.200 Which is now in its fourth edition and a book 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:15.960 on station grounding and many many many articles 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:19.899 He was a 2008 Dayton amateur of the year and 00:09:19.899 --> 00:09:23.960 in 2015 was inducted into the CQ contest Hall 00:09:23.960 --> 00:09:27.460 of Fame And he's also a longtime instructor at 00:09:27.460 --> 00:09:31.480 contest University in Dayton so Ward welcome 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:35.259 back to the show Hi Neil, it's great to be back. 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:40.539 Thanks for the opportunity to talk to folks Yeah, 00:09:40.620 --> 00:09:46.240 now I got a copy of the the book the fourth edition 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:49.759 of ham radio for dummies that you gave me to 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:53.620 do a review for amateur radio news line and I 00:09:53.620 --> 00:09:56.279 Just have to record that I wrote it last night 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:59.179 and got it. We're gonna do a little review on 00:09:59.179 --> 00:10:02.399 Newsline about it, but tonight we get the long 00:10:02.399 --> 00:10:04.700 version here We can we can spend quite a bit 00:10:04.700 --> 00:10:07.480 of time talking about the new book and and this 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:10.740 You know, the Dummies books have been out for 00:10:10.740 --> 00:10:13.779 a good while now and it really targets people 00:10:13.779 --> 00:10:16.899 who are thinking about getting started in something 00:10:16.899 --> 00:10:21.220 or are kind of a beginner and Ham Radio is no 00:10:21.220 --> 00:10:24.360 exception. So let's talk a little bit about the 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:27.980 target audience for the book and the purpose 00:10:27.980 --> 00:10:32.580 of doing the For Dummies book for Ham Radio. 00:10:33.450 --> 00:10:37.950 Right. Everybody is a dummy about something and 00:10:37.950 --> 00:10:42.370 ham radio being so big, there are a lot of areas 00:10:42.370 --> 00:10:46.370 where we don't know what's going on and want 00:10:46.370 --> 00:10:49.850 to find out stuff. A lot of new things being 00:10:49.850 --> 00:10:53.009 introduced all the time and the dummies format 00:10:53.009 --> 00:10:56.389 lends itself well to an easy read where you can 00:10:56.389 --> 00:11:00.009 just scan through the book, pick out what you're 00:11:00.009 --> 00:11:04.169 interested in and then go on your way. And so 00:11:04.169 --> 00:11:07.870 the idea behind the book is a desktop Elmer. 00:11:08.230 --> 00:11:12.529 And it's for hams who just got licensed and are 00:11:12.529 --> 00:11:16.470 now wondering, well, now what? And unless you've 00:11:16.470 --> 00:11:20.330 got somebody to take you under their wing and 00:11:20.330 --> 00:11:23.269 answer every question, you really need that help 00:11:23.269 --> 00:11:25.830 or you have to go searching for it online. And 00:11:25.830 --> 00:11:30.570 so I tried to pull the most common and most widely 00:11:31.019 --> 00:11:34.440 used and experienced aspects of ham radio into 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:37.120 one volume and then there's a lot of people out 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:39.820 there that have heard about ham radio, but they 00:11:39.820 --> 00:11:44.100 don't really know what it is and of course you 00:11:44.100 --> 00:11:48.639 ask Anybody in the hobby you'll get their particular 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:53.620 view and so This is a good introduction to what 00:11:53.620 --> 00:11:56.620 is this ham radio business and what do people 00:11:56.620 --> 00:11:59.700 get out of it? How does it work? Do I have to 00:11:59.700 --> 00:12:02.279 get a license? That kind of stuff. So it helps 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:04.299 introduce people to ham radio. And then once 00:12:04.299 --> 00:12:07.259 they take the plunge and get that ticket, it'll 00:12:07.259 --> 00:12:10.840 help them, uh, find out how to do stuff. Um, 00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:13.639 what's out there and have more fun. So they'll 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:16.360 be more willing to stick with it. That seems 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:20.360 to be working meal. Yeah, it does. I mean, you 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:22.460 know, you're in the fourth edition now, so you 00:12:22.460 --> 00:12:25.830 must be doing something right. Or there wouldn't 00:12:25.830 --> 00:12:27.629 wouldn't have been a second and a third and a 00:12:27.629 --> 00:12:31.850 fourth. So Yeah, there's very few fourth editions 00:12:31.850 --> 00:12:34.070 of dummies books. So I must be doing something 00:12:34.070 --> 00:12:39.389 right there you go Well as I was reading it a 00:12:39.389 --> 00:12:42.990 lot of things came to mind and and there were 00:12:42.990 --> 00:12:46.129 a couple of things in there that I hadn't heard 00:12:46.129 --> 00:12:50.730 about They were kind of small but you know, there 00:12:50.730 --> 00:12:53.470 were a couple of things in there that I didn't 00:12:53.470 --> 00:13:01.230 know about but it made me think of Just how much 00:13:01.230 --> 00:13:07.409 stuff You really need to learn I mean there's 00:13:07.409 --> 00:13:10.990 there's so much stuff in this book and and you've 00:13:10.990 --> 00:13:16.690 done a great job of putting it into Digestible 00:13:16.690 --> 00:13:20.450 chunks small pieces of information, but I got 00:13:20.450 --> 00:13:23.330 the thinking Oh my gosh all these terms that 00:13:23.330 --> 00:13:28.809 I use all the time and and and as a teacher and 00:13:28.809 --> 00:13:32.370 and you know teaching ham radio in the schools, 00:13:32.450 --> 00:13:37.090 it's been You know, oh my gosh. No wonder this 00:13:37.090 --> 00:13:40.809 is you know Consuming my energy because there's 00:13:40.809 --> 00:13:46.070 a lot there There's a lot to learn. K1ZZ, the 00:13:46.070 --> 00:13:52.610 longtime leader, CEO of the ARRL, used the phrase 00:13:52.610 --> 00:13:54.549 a lot. I don't know if it was his originally, 00:13:54.889 --> 00:13:57.789 but a ham radio license is really a license to 00:13:57.789 --> 00:13:59.970 learn. Yes, there's a lot to learn. You don't 00:13:59.970 --> 00:14:02.769 have to learn at all. You can specialize if you 00:14:02.769 --> 00:14:05.649 want and some people do that and they are perfectly 00:14:05.649 --> 00:14:09.789 happy and successful hams without doing a whole 00:14:09.789 --> 00:14:13.230 lot of different things. Pretty much, I think 00:14:13.230 --> 00:14:16.990 most of us tend to do several things. And once 00:14:16.990 --> 00:14:20.970 we get started, we look around and we see different 00:14:20.970 --> 00:14:24.210 stuff out there. Plus, there's new technology 00:14:24.210 --> 00:14:27.629 coming around all the time. And yes, you're right 00:14:27.629 --> 00:14:32.529 about jargon, especially older hams, more experienced 00:14:32.529 --> 00:14:35.629 hams, even young ones who've been a ham for a 00:14:35.629 --> 00:14:38.769 few years, you tend to throw around a lot of 00:14:38.769 --> 00:14:42.429 jargon. Q -signals. What are Q -signals? We just 00:14:42.429 --> 00:14:45.450 use them as if everybody knew what they were. 00:14:46.149 --> 00:14:48.490 And that's something that a new ham has to learn. 00:14:48.549 --> 00:14:52.950 I remember being mystified by CW prosigns, like 00:14:52.950 --> 00:14:56.590 ES. What is this ES business? And then finally, 00:14:57.710 --> 00:15:00.929 after several weeks, somebody explained to me 00:15:00.929 --> 00:15:04.149 that it meant and, and it was just an abbreviation, 00:15:04.190 --> 00:15:08.600 but I had no idea. It's a book where you can 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:11.639 find little bits of stuff to answer your questions. 00:15:12.580 --> 00:15:16.240 And I have to tip my cap to the dummies designer 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:19.919 people at Wiley. They have set this up so that 00:15:19.919 --> 00:15:23.870 all the dummies books have that bite size. approach 00:15:23.870 --> 00:15:26.370 to things and they're very readable. I have a 00:15:26.370 --> 00:15:29.090 whole stack of dummies books on my shelf for 00:15:29.090 --> 00:15:31.730 different topics. I wanted to learn about geocaching 00:15:31.730 --> 00:15:34.909 so I got the geocaching book and you can just 00:15:34.909 --> 00:15:37.730 scan it in a couple of nights and hey by golly 00:15:37.730 --> 00:15:40.370 you have a sense of what the jargon is and what 00:15:40.370 --> 00:15:43.210 it's about and then you can dig in deeper if 00:15:43.210 --> 00:15:48.509 you want. So the book is not a detailed how to 00:15:48.509 --> 00:15:51.210 step -by -step. It tells you what's going on, 00:15:51.429 --> 00:15:54.149 it explains some of the jargon, the basic concept, 00:15:54.470 --> 00:15:57.509 and it says, here's where you can find out all 00:15:57.509 --> 00:16:00.490 that you need to know, and points the reader 00:16:00.490 --> 00:16:03.889 in the direction. And hopefully that results 00:16:03.889 --> 00:16:08.429 in them going and having a good experience. I 00:16:08.429 --> 00:16:13.370 also was trying to wrap my brain around how many 00:16:13.370 --> 00:16:18.279 web links went into this book. Because you've 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:22.779 got a link for just about everything and and 00:16:22.779 --> 00:16:26.600 that's got to be a monumental task Well, and 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:30.500 they change to There are a few that between the 00:16:30.500 --> 00:16:32.500 the draft of the book going to the editors and 00:16:32.500 --> 00:16:35.779 then checking the final layout some of them changed 00:16:35.779 --> 00:16:39.919 I think the key to that is to use the highest 00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:44.460 level URL on the website that you can hopefully 00:16:44.460 --> 00:16:49.809 the website doesn't change, but if it does, you 00:16:49.809 --> 00:16:54.909 can find the top level and search for the topic. 00:16:55.529 --> 00:17:01.190 Anyway, there are many dozen ham URLs in the 00:17:01.190 --> 00:17:04.490 book, links, and I tried to have a link for almost 00:17:04.490 --> 00:17:08.049 every topic because you can't explain everything 00:17:08.049 --> 00:17:13.440 completely and keep the book manageable. Yeah, 00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:16.700 absolutely. You did a great job with that. And 00:17:16.700 --> 00:17:19.339 I really like to the, you know, the terminology 00:17:19.339 --> 00:17:22.460 is always, you know, highlighted and, you know, 00:17:22.539 --> 00:17:26.140 the bold face for the terms and just makes it 00:17:26.140 --> 00:17:31.599 really easy to to allow people to learn what's 00:17:31.599 --> 00:17:33.660 going on. Well, let's talk about some of these 00:17:33.660 --> 00:17:37.940 big changes that you made to the fourth edition. 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:42.380 Well, pretty much every portion of the book was 00:17:42.380 --> 00:17:46.640 updated to some degree. And this was a big set 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:51.680 of changes. The last edition was written before 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:58.140 FT8 and before DMR and other big changes like 00:17:58.140 --> 00:18:03.259 the pandemic. And so there was an awful lot to 00:18:03.259 --> 00:18:05.839 incorporate into the new edition. So every portion 00:18:05.839 --> 00:18:10.529 got touched to some degree. I made the biggest 00:18:10.529 --> 00:18:13.730 changes in the sections on how to tune radio 00:18:13.730 --> 00:18:17.309 and how to make it contact those sections because 00:18:17.309 --> 00:18:21.869 SDR, software defined radio technology, has changed 00:18:21.869 --> 00:18:25.549 many radios and their user interfaces and it's 00:18:25.549 --> 00:18:29.009 no longer just a knob and numbers anymore for 00:18:29.009 --> 00:18:32.349 most radios. So that has to be worked in. At 00:18:32.349 --> 00:18:35.650 the same time, there's a tremendous amount of 00:18:35.650 --> 00:18:38.890 legacy technology out there, all the analog stuff. 00:18:39.609 --> 00:18:42.930 So a new ham will be confronted with radically 00:18:42.930 --> 00:18:46.170 different types of technology. So I had to rework 00:18:46.170 --> 00:18:51.289 all of that. And then, like I said, FT8 was introduced 00:18:51.289 --> 00:18:57.569 in 2017, I think, and then started taking the 00:18:57.569 --> 00:19:02.329 world by storm. That was right after the previous 00:19:02.329 --> 00:19:04.869 edition. So by the time this edition got started, 00:19:05.230 --> 00:19:09.950 FT8 was the dominant method of making QSOs. And 00:19:09.950 --> 00:19:14.829 it's wildly different than previous technologies. 00:19:16.089 --> 00:19:20.069 And DMR has come on as one of the big digital 00:19:20.069 --> 00:19:23.789 voice modes. So you have repeaters with System 00:19:23.789 --> 00:19:28.950 Fusion, D -Star, DMR, and P25 and others are 00:19:28.950 --> 00:19:31.970 out there. And that's becoming one of the most 00:19:31.970 --> 00:19:36.329 common technologies for repeaters. So I can't 00:19:36.329 --> 00:19:39.829 just say repeaters and talk about regular old 00:19:39.829 --> 00:19:43.529 analog FM. They are sharing the bands with this 00:19:43.529 --> 00:19:48.710 new digital stuff. And then because of the pandemic 00:19:48.710 --> 00:19:51.890 really accelerated it, but the exam process has 00:19:51.890 --> 00:19:56.069 been updated. So you can take an exam using a 00:19:56.069 --> 00:20:02.599 remote session. LA area radio group GLARG is 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:06.259 the leading organization doing remote sessions. 00:20:06.279 --> 00:20:10.140 So we had to incorporate that into what is the 00:20:10.140 --> 00:20:13.200 process of getting a license. There are new topics 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:17.259 in the exam question pool and operating practices. 00:20:18.259 --> 00:20:22.140 They are updated to popular techniques and specialties 00:20:22.140 --> 00:20:25.940 like parks on the air and summits on the air 00:20:25.940 --> 00:20:29.369 and youngsters on the air. I love the on the 00:20:29.369 --> 00:20:31.769 air part. That's really what amateur radio is 00:20:31.769 --> 00:20:34.130 about. But you've got all these new communities 00:20:34.130 --> 00:20:37.670 within amateur radio, and it's important to introduce 00:20:37.670 --> 00:20:40.450 those. And then you've got all the technical 00:20:40.450 --> 00:20:44.329 changes. So there's technical guidance about 00:20:44.329 --> 00:20:47.890 radios and antennas and tools, all sorts of stuff. 00:20:48.509 --> 00:20:51.170 So as you might imagine, a lot of the book has 00:20:51.170 --> 00:20:55.960 been changed. It's about 20 % thicker than the 00:20:55.960 --> 00:21:00.420 previous edition. And that indicates the scope 00:21:00.420 --> 00:21:03.579 of the hobby is getting broader every day, every 00:21:03.579 --> 00:21:08.559 week. So it's a moving target. And I really, 00:21:08.779 --> 00:21:11.759 really did touch a lot of it this time, Neil. 00:21:13.559 --> 00:21:18.779 Well, you sure did. I mean, there's just so many 00:21:18.779 --> 00:21:23.210 changes and so much new stuff out there. And 00:21:23.210 --> 00:21:27.390 you did a fabulous job of trying to catch a little 00:21:27.390 --> 00:21:30.710 bit of all of it in this book. Now, if somebody 00:21:30.710 --> 00:21:33.430 picks up this book that's interested in ham radio 00:21:33.430 --> 00:21:37.190 or just getting started in ham radio, is this 00:21:37.190 --> 00:21:41.390 going to help them with the license exam? Well, 00:21:41.569 --> 00:21:44.750 it will help them with the license exam. It is 00:21:44.750 --> 00:21:48.130 not a traditional study guide where the questions 00:21:48.130 --> 00:21:51.470 are listed. And then there's a discussion of 00:21:51.470 --> 00:21:55.210 why the correct answer is what it is. There are 00:21:55.210 --> 00:21:58.089 plenty of really good exam study guides out there. 00:21:58.170 --> 00:22:03.950 There's the ARRL guide. There's the W5YI, Gordo, 00:22:04.829 --> 00:22:10.049 KB6NU, just quite a few. If you type in radio 00:22:10.049 --> 00:22:14.029 amateur exam study guide, you'll get a whole 00:22:14.029 --> 00:22:19.119 handful of really good books. websites, flashcards, 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:23.359 videos that will help you with specific questions. 00:22:23.859 --> 00:22:29.480 That said, in the book, the dummies All the books 00:22:29.480 --> 00:22:32.720 have these things called icons over at the left 00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:37.220 margin of each page. And one of them is tip, 00:22:37.220 --> 00:22:40.160 T -I -P. This is a tip, something you need to 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:44.000 know. So if the topic is covered on the exam, 00:22:44.420 --> 00:22:47.619 I put a tip icon on the page and I say, you know, 00:22:47.819 --> 00:22:50.640 you might want to study this because it's a topic 00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:53.339 that's on the exam. but I don't get into the 00:22:53.339 --> 00:22:56.359 exact questions. So it's not a traditional study 00:22:56.359 --> 00:22:58.680 guide, but it does point you in the right direction. 00:22:59.039 --> 00:23:01.720 I hope that answers your question. Thank you. 00:23:01.819 --> 00:23:04.640 Yep. Just want to make sure people realize that, 00:23:05.059 --> 00:23:08.380 you know, it's not necessarily a licensed study 00:23:08.380 --> 00:23:12.079 guide, although there's a lot of information 00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:15.220 in there that will definitely help and help understand. 00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:18.900 What's going on? All right. Well, it's time for 00:23:18.900 --> 00:23:22.240 a break So we're gonna come back with Ward. We'll 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:24.559 talk more about ham radio for dummies and maybe 00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:28.319 some other stuff Right after this word from tower 00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:33.789 electronics right here on ham talk live Thanks 00:23:33.789 --> 00:23:36.910 for choosing Tower Electronics. How may we help 00:23:36.910 --> 00:23:40.890 you today? We have PL259s. We have end connectors. 00:23:41.410 --> 00:23:45.190 We have SMA adapters. We have BNC adapters. What 00:23:45.190 --> 00:23:48.349 can I show you today? Where's the tower? Well, 00:23:48.490 --> 00:23:51.609 we don't actually have a tower with us, but we 00:23:51.609 --> 00:23:54.109 have all kinds of things you can use with a tower. 00:23:54.529 --> 00:23:57.730 We have power poles, antennas, soldering irons 00:23:57.730 --> 00:24:01.049 and meters. Where's the tower? Ma 'am, that's 00:24:01.049 --> 00:24:03.599 the name of our company. 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And before 00:25:57.319 --> 00:26:00.279 we get back to Ward, it's time for the HamTalk 00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:03.700 Live Ham Radio Joke of the Week with In9GSU. 00:26:04.299 --> 00:26:07.440 Now it's time for the HamTalk Live Ham Radio 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:09.660 Joke of the Week, the part of the show where 00:26:09.660 --> 00:26:13.119 Rick tells us a ham radio joke. The HamTalk Live 00:26:13.119 --> 00:26:15.440 Ham Radio Joke of the Week is brought to you 00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:20.180 by QRM Labs. Now here's Rick Garrett in 9GSU 00:26:20.180 --> 00:26:28.740 with today's HamTalk Live Joke of the Week. I 00:26:28.740 --> 00:26:31.319 decided I wanted to operate portable while skiing. 00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:36.519 Boy, that went downhill fast. This has been the 00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:39.519 HamTalk Live Ham Radio Joke of the Week with 00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:43.240 Rick Garrett in 9GSU. Tune in again next week 00:26:43.240 --> 00:26:49.960 for another joke from Rick. Oh yes, it went downhill 00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:54.960 fast. Well, it's time for your calls right now. 00:26:54.980 --> 00:26:58.200 So if you have a question for Ward, now's the 00:26:58.200 --> 00:27:04.960 time to call us. It's 859 -982. 73 73 we'll give 00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:07.079 that out again here in just a second or you can 00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:11.660 tweet us it's at ham talk live on Twitter and 00:27:11.660 --> 00:27:15.240 if you're listening to us on WTWW or you're listening 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.920 to the podcast edition You won't be able to reach 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:21.640 us because we're doing this live on Thursday 00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:24.140 night But again the phone number if you'd like 00:27:24.140 --> 00:27:30.980 to call in is eight five nine nine eight two 00:27:30.980 --> 00:27:38.049 73 Well, one of our commenters is our friend, 00:27:38.369 --> 00:27:42.329 Michael Coulter, W8CI from the Dayton Hamvention. 00:27:43.009 --> 00:27:45.569 And Michael says, Ward is an incredible powerhouse 00:27:45.569 --> 00:27:48.650 for amateur radio as an author and credible leader 00:27:48.650 --> 00:27:52.900 of YASME. uh... low -key but yet uh... a wonderful 00:27:52.900 --> 00:27:57.339 contribution uh... also as an astonishing supporter 00:27:57.339 --> 00:27:59.799 of youth in fact we may talk a little bit about 00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:02.940 youth here in a little bit uh... but uh... also 00:28:02.940 --> 00:28:05.240 mentions that your book is coming out on audible 00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:07.920 so uh... give us the information on the audio 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:11.960 version of the book well the audio version uh... 00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:16.680 is uh... converted directly from the text using 00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:22.460 the audible process that Wiley has. So it's a 00:28:22.460 --> 00:28:28.599 direct text to audio and there's also an electronic 00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:32.599 e -book version of it. So whatever platform you 00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:36.900 care to consume Ham Radio for Dummies in, you 00:28:36.900 --> 00:28:41.920 will be able to get it. Okay, so you can you 00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.099 can catch it there as well and I did put the 00:28:45.099 --> 00:28:49.180 link to the fourth edition on the description 00:28:49.180 --> 00:28:54.160 in the show Description so you can check that 00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:58.220 out as well if you need a direct link To the 00:28:58.220 --> 00:29:02.279 new book. All right. Well eight five nine nine 00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:04.759 eight two seventy three seventy three is the 00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:08.440 number the phone lines are open And we have a 00:29:08.440 --> 00:29:12.519 tweet from Brett W Y seven B G that says, Neil, 00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:15.019 glad to see your podcast resume. You keep moving 00:29:15.019 --> 00:29:18.039 closer and closer to Dayton. Is that a coincidence? 00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:25.119 Well, maybe. I don't know. It's convenient. That's 00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:29.779 for sure. But now we're in 20 minutes away now. 00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:32.839 You'll have to, you'll have to move right into 00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:35.059 the parking lot. You'll have one of those coveted 00:29:35.059 --> 00:29:38.460 parking spots. Well, my good friend. Dr. Scott, 00:29:38.460 --> 00:29:40.819 right? KZ or MD keeps telling me that I need 00:29:40.819 --> 00:29:43.819 to, I need to just move to Xenia so that way 00:29:43.819 --> 00:29:49.980 I can rent out parking spots. I don't know. We 00:29:49.980 --> 00:29:52.140 were trying to get into this house, let alone 00:29:52.140 --> 00:29:55.480 another one, but, uh, we're going to, we're going 00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:57.819 to have to move again soon because, because we've 00:29:57.819 --> 00:30:01.160 got this HOA thing going on here. So we're going 00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:04.940 to figure out some antennas for the meantime, 00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:08.289 but, uh, Yeah. I don't want to think about moving 00:30:08.289 --> 00:30:10.509 again. We haven't even got this one done yet. 00:30:10.990 --> 00:30:13.250 All right. Eight, five, nine, nine, eight, two, 00:30:13.349 --> 00:30:18.529 73, 73. Go ahead. We, uh, you're going to have 00:30:18.529 --> 00:30:22.769 to, uh, uh, evaluate the remote station, um, 00:30:23.009 --> 00:30:24.769 possibilities. I talk about that in the book 00:30:24.769 --> 00:30:27.710 too. That's incredibly popular and there's a 00:30:27.710 --> 00:30:31.539 lot of technology for that now. Yes, there is 00:30:31.539 --> 00:30:34.700 and and that's something that we've tried to 00:30:34.700 --> 00:30:38.500 make available to Some of the youth in Yoda and 00:30:38.500 --> 00:30:43.000 we'll talk about that here in just a minute But 00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:48.059 there's also the remote ham radio youth program 00:30:48.059 --> 00:30:51.400 that provides that to youth but another way to 00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:56.000 To do remote work. So there's there's several 00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:59.670 options there And I may have to do that. I'm 00:30:59.670 --> 00:31:01.690 going to, I'm going to try to string up a dipole 00:31:01.690 --> 00:31:04.589 though, at least until I can, until a week move 00:31:04.589 --> 00:31:08.549 again and I can get a good tower up, but we'll 00:31:08.549 --> 00:31:11.890 see how that goes. Well, let's talk about the 00:31:11.890 --> 00:31:13.910 book again. Let's, let's get back to the topic 00:31:13.910 --> 00:31:18.130 here. Is this only for beginners? Is that it? 00:31:19.250 --> 00:31:23.930 No, not at all. Um, it certainly addresses questions 00:31:23.930 --> 00:31:27.569 that beginners have. But ham radio is really 00:31:27.569 --> 00:31:32.690 enormous. It's so broad that nobody knows everything 00:31:32.690 --> 00:31:36.089 about ham radio anymore. There used to be years 00:31:36.089 --> 00:31:38.789 and years ago, if you read QSD cover to cover, 00:31:38.950 --> 00:31:41.710 you pretty much touched everything going on in 00:31:41.710 --> 00:31:45.470 ham radio, but that's no longer the case. So 00:31:45.470 --> 00:31:48.930 especially if you've specialized in one area 00:31:48.930 --> 00:31:52.680 for a while. Other things have grown up. There's 00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:57.339 other options and you might want to what is this 00:31:57.339 --> 00:32:02.059 business about FTA or What is this about remote? 00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:05.539 Stations, how do you do that? So you can flip 00:32:05.539 --> 00:32:08.619 through the book get a sense of what that is 00:32:08.619 --> 00:32:12.279 find some resources to dive deep if you want 00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:16.000 and It's a quick window into a lot of different 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:21.200 areas of the hobby Eight five nine nine eight 00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:23.240 two seventy three seventy three is the phone 00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:25.599 number if you have a question or a comment for 00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:31.180 Ward silver in zero a X the author of ham radio 00:32:31.180 --> 00:32:37.059 for dummies and fourth edition Well, yeah, let's 00:32:37.059 --> 00:32:39.859 talk a little bit about the youth because you've 00:32:39.859 --> 00:32:43.619 been working on this Yoda thing too and we're 00:32:43.619 --> 00:32:47.970 very grateful for you asked me support of The 00:32:47.970 --> 00:32:50.430 youth on the air camp which I was just looking 00:32:50.430 --> 00:32:54.250 at the calendar is a month and a day away And 00:32:54.250 --> 00:32:56.970 that may have caused my blood pressure to just 00:32:56.970 --> 00:32:59.849 go up because that means I only have a month 00:32:59.849 --> 00:33:05.069 left to finish it up But you've been doing some 00:33:05.069 --> 00:33:10.009 really cool things with the youth on the air 00:33:10.009 --> 00:33:15.410 group Internationally and so let's talk a little 00:33:15.410 --> 00:33:19.390 bit about some of the things that are going on 00:33:19.390 --> 00:33:26.710 within the Americas, region two, with Yoda. Well, 00:33:26.829 --> 00:33:29.450 we'll back up a second now, let folks know what 00:33:29.450 --> 00:33:33.690 Yoda is and where it comes from. Yoda stands 00:33:33.690 --> 00:33:36.809 for youngsters on the air in region one, which 00:33:36.809 --> 00:33:42.450 is ITU breaks the world up into three regions. 00:33:43.069 --> 00:33:46.269 And region one is Europe and Africa. Region two 00:33:46.269 --> 00:33:51.329 is the Americas and region three is Oceania and 00:33:51.329 --> 00:33:56.170 Asia. So they use the term youngsters like we 00:33:56.170 --> 00:34:00.369 use the term youth. It's basically anybody under 00:34:00.369 --> 00:34:05.430 the age of 25. So Yoda region one got its start 00:34:05.430 --> 00:34:10.909 oh maybe a dozen years or so ago and it was a 00:34:10.909 --> 00:34:14.329 organic kind of thing. It grew from individual 00:34:14.329 --> 00:34:18.349 groups of youngsters getting together young hams 00:34:18.349 --> 00:34:24.849 students interested in ham radio. Florian Y09 00:34:24.849 --> 00:34:28.469 I think his call is YGF I can never remember 00:34:28.469 --> 00:34:32.039 it Sorry about that, Florian. And then later 00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:38.920 Lisa Lenders, PA2LS, acted as, they didn't manage 00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:41.280 the group, but they sort of administered it and 00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:45.300 helped get going. And it's taken off. There are 00:34:45.300 --> 00:34:51.659 hundreds of young amateurs in Region 1 that are 00:34:51.659 --> 00:34:54.739 engaged in Yoda activities, they have camps, 00:34:54.860 --> 00:34:57.960 they have on -the -air events, et cetera, et 00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:00.849 cetera. The next question was, well, why don't 00:35:00.849 --> 00:35:03.710 we have Yoda over here in Region 2 in the Americas? 00:35:04.690 --> 00:35:08.409 And we have been banging around with that for 00:35:08.409 --> 00:35:13.909 a little while. And with Zoom taking off and 00:35:13.909 --> 00:35:16.909 making it possible for people to meet all over 00:35:16.909 --> 00:35:21.730 the world, we had... Zoom and GoToMeeting and 00:35:21.730 --> 00:35:24.610 Skype and Teams and all this kind of stuff. We 00:35:24.610 --> 00:35:29.730 had a platform. So IARU region two leadership 00:35:29.730 --> 00:35:34.190 responded favorably to the idea of creating a 00:35:34.190 --> 00:35:38.150 Yoda liaison, not necessarily a manager, but 00:35:38.150 --> 00:35:43.909 somebody who could act as a visible. person to 00:35:43.909 --> 00:35:46.949 contact and ask questions and help connect people. 00:35:47.210 --> 00:35:52.570 That was Sterling Coffee, N0 Sugar Sugar Charlie. 00:35:53.730 --> 00:35:57.769 Sterling is an ARL youth editor in the past and 00:35:57.769 --> 00:36:02.550 is a familiar face in the under 25 ham radio 00:36:02.550 --> 00:36:05.909 scene. So he became the liaison and I helped 00:36:05.909 --> 00:36:09.789 Sterling with administrative things. We started 00:36:09.789 --> 00:36:15.369 out with the proposal that we would ask if anybody 00:36:15.369 --> 00:36:18.909 was out there in region two who was working with 00:36:18.909 --> 00:36:21.969 youth and what were they doing and how does it 00:36:21.969 --> 00:36:24.889 work and can you tell us about it? We don't want 00:36:24.889 --> 00:36:27.690 to manage their program, we just want to know 00:36:27.690 --> 00:36:31.769 about it. And things started to accelerate and 00:36:31.769 --> 00:36:35.469 now we have a group of well over 30 youth leaders 00:36:35.469 --> 00:36:38.030 around South America, the Caribbean, Central 00:36:38.030 --> 00:36:42.059 America, and Canada. who meet every couple weeks 00:36:42.059 --> 00:36:45.840 and maybe we have a topic or maybe somebody has 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:48.139 done something or maybe somebody has an idea 00:36:48.139 --> 00:36:52.579 and we discuss it for 90 minutes to two hours 00:36:52.579 --> 00:36:57.280 and it's been very useful in discovering who's 00:36:57.280 --> 00:37:00.400 out there doing what, what are they finding works, 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:03.360 what kind of interesting programs do they have. 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:07.289 The challenges have been that we have of the 00:37:07.289 --> 00:37:10.969 mix of languages. Spanish is the predominant 00:37:10.969 --> 00:37:13.789 language in Central America and South America, 00:37:13.909 --> 00:37:18.050 but it's by no means the only language. The Brazilians 00:37:18.050 --> 00:37:22.449 use Portuguese, and in the Caribbean, English 00:37:22.449 --> 00:37:28.150 is very popular. And so we've had to have Spanish 00:37:28.150 --> 00:37:31.269 meetings and English meetings and that kind of 00:37:31.269 --> 00:37:35.210 thing. So we're trying to help people reach across 00:37:35.210 --> 00:37:39.989 their cultural and country lines to help each 00:37:39.989 --> 00:37:45.010 other. We have some hams in Argentina who started 00:37:45.010 --> 00:37:48.449 working with hams in Peru, and we're finding 00:37:48.449 --> 00:37:52.269 out about STEM programs in Panama and Mexico, 00:37:52.829 --> 00:37:57.429 and they're making those visible to the other 00:37:57.429 --> 00:38:00.730 groups. The Brazilians have a big challenge right 00:38:00.730 --> 00:38:04.239 now with COVID. But when they come back, they're 00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:07.139 going to resume working with hams in contest 00:38:07.139 --> 00:38:12.860 stations. And then in the Caribbean, the driving 00:38:12.860 --> 00:38:16.300 force there was the hurricanes and the damage 00:38:16.300 --> 00:38:18.800 that the hurricanes caused. And people were very 00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:21.280 interested in this ham radio thing. So that's 00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:23.639 starting to open up some youth opportunities, 00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:29.539 particularly in Puerto Rico and Dominica. and 00:38:29.539 --> 00:38:32.800 other Iowans. So we're getting that started. 00:38:33.059 --> 00:38:35.440 It's basically a meet and greet, but the idea 00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:40.820 is to share ideas and Yasme, a foundation of 00:38:40.820 --> 00:38:44.119 which I'm the president. It's a very old ham 00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:48.119 radio foundation. We funded a couple of programs 00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:51.679 for youth within that group. So it's starting 00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:55.079 to catch a fire, as they say, and I'm hopeful 00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:58.300 that we'll have Yoda events, a lot like your 00:38:58.300 --> 00:39:00.539 Youth on the Air camp coming up here in a month 00:39:00.539 --> 00:39:04.780 and a day. And there's also activity burgeoning 00:39:04.780 --> 00:39:09.019 in region three, Japan, Indonesia, Thailand. 00:39:09.539 --> 00:39:13.760 So this is starting to take off around the world. 00:39:13.820 --> 00:39:17.599 And I'm just really pleased to help in any way 00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:22.420 I can, Neil. Well, you've been a fabulous help 00:39:22.420 --> 00:39:25.920 in getting the camp going and getting that ball 00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:30.800 rolling and now getting people talking to each 00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:33.820 other. And it's been a lot of fun to sit in on 00:39:33.820 --> 00:39:37.900 those and offer some things, but also just to 00:39:37.900 --> 00:39:42.519 kind of sit back and hear what other countries 00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:48.789 are doing and try to share some ideas. Gained 00:39:48.789 --> 00:39:53.690 some knowledge from the collective of all of 00:39:53.690 --> 00:39:58.710 us and So it's been a been a great thing Well, 00:39:58.710 --> 00:40:02.369 we're just about out of time here ward But I 00:40:02.369 --> 00:40:05.469 want to give you a chance to make any closing 00:40:05.469 --> 00:40:08.989 comments that you'd like to do and remind everybody 00:40:08.989 --> 00:40:15.190 where they can find the book Okay, thanks. Well 00:40:15.190 --> 00:40:18.980 the book is sold online. All you have to do is 00:40:18.980 --> 00:40:22.159 type in Ham Radio for Dummies and you'll find 00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:26.260 the various editions. It's sold in Amazon obviously. 00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:30.579 You'll find the eBook there. The audible version 00:40:30.579 --> 00:40:33.739 is available. Ham Radio distributors like DX 00:40:33.739 --> 00:40:37.239 Engineering and Ham Radio Outlet are selling 00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:41.239 it and so it's available. It's not very expensive. 00:40:41.420 --> 00:40:44.360 I think the going price is just a little over 00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:50.019 20 bucks. And if you've got a young ham or a 00:40:50.019 --> 00:40:52.800 relative or an acquaintance that wants to know 00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:57.099 about ham radio, this would be a good way to 00:40:57.099 --> 00:41:00.860 introduce them at a pretty low cost, I think, 00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:04.460 compared to most big technical reference books 00:41:04.460 --> 00:41:08.639 for sure. Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing 00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:12.079 the youth camp do real well this year. We should 00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:15.679 have some more Yoda events. And once we're meeting 00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:19.960 in person. Again, I expect to see some really 00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:23.960 great pictures and reports and videos from the 00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:26.360 Younger Hams get together and doing their own 00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:28.780 thing. And I think that's really important. They 00:41:28.780 --> 00:41:31.280 need to get together and do their own thing and 00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:35.139 what makes sense to them in the way that works 00:41:35.139 --> 00:41:38.480 for them and addresses their needs. And the rest 00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:41.139 of us who've been around for a while, we need 00:41:41.139 --> 00:41:43.869 to help facilitate that. and help make that happen. 00:41:44.050 --> 00:41:46.070 I think it's a great opportunity for us all, 00:41:46.269 --> 00:41:52.289 Neil. I totally agree. And that is one of the 00:41:52.289 --> 00:41:54.710 things that we're really trying to do with the 00:41:54.710 --> 00:41:59.269 camp is get that infrastructure set up so that 00:41:59.269 --> 00:42:04.090 the young people can take that over for the most 00:42:04.090 --> 00:42:09.090 part. And that's really important when students 00:42:09.090 --> 00:42:12.650 get ownership of things. They tend to put a lot 00:42:12.650 --> 00:42:18.050 more into it. They tend to to do Much better 00:42:18.050 --> 00:42:22.030 and so this is a great chance to to do that. 00:42:22.030 --> 00:42:25.590 So again Thank you for all of your support and 00:42:25.590 --> 00:42:28.989 in making that happen and and we'll talk with 00:42:28.989 --> 00:42:33.329 you next time Thanks a lot Neil. I look forward 00:42:33.329 --> 00:42:37.369 to it Okay, and again, there'll be a review coming 00:42:37.369 --> 00:42:40.710 up on amateur radio news line. So make sure you 00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:44.300 Check that out, but for tonight, that is a wrap 00:42:44.300 --> 00:42:47.159 for this week's edition of HamTalk Live. I'd 00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:50.659 like to thank my guest Ward Silver, N0AX, and 00:42:50.659 --> 00:42:53.119 everybody out there in cyberspace for listening 00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:56.480 and typing in tonight and invite you back next 00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:59.800 Thursday night at 9 p .m. Eastern Time. Also 00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:02.659 coming up in two weeks, two weeks from tonight, 00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:06.039 we're going to have the annual field day last 00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:10.530 second question and answer show. with ARRL contest 00:43:10.530 --> 00:43:17.730 manager Paul Bork, N1SFE. And if you have a last 00:43:17.730 --> 00:43:20.269 second question about field day, this is your 00:43:20.269 --> 00:43:25.070 chance to get that answered. So that's June 24th, 00:43:25.110 --> 00:43:27.869 right here on HamTalk Live. And for a list of 00:43:27.869 --> 00:43:30.250 all of our upcoming guests, be sure to check 00:43:30.250 --> 00:43:34.590 out hamtalklive .com. And if you like the show, 00:43:34.829 --> 00:43:37.530 please leave us a review. That helps other people 00:43:37.530 --> 00:43:40.570 find the show faster. So for now, this is Neil 00:43:40.570 --> 00:43:47.070 Rapp, WB9VPG, saying 7375 and may the good DX 00:43:47.070 --> 00:43:59.650 be yours. Well you came right back to my secure 00:43:59.650 --> 00:44:03.289 call Your readability five and strength nine 00:44:03.289 --> 00:44:07.909 You never once mentioned your weather at all 00:44:07.909 --> 00:44:13.250 And I didn't mention mine We talked and talked 00:44:13.250 --> 00:44:17.389 for hours and hours I completely forgot you're 00:44:17.389 --> 00:44:22.030 a ham I don't know your power or the height of 00:44:22.030 --> 00:44:27.079 your tower Frankly I don't give a damn So 73, 00:44:28.059 --> 00:44:31.920 to you and your family, I'll be seeing you further 00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:38.420 down the law. 73, to you and your family, I'll 00:44:38.420 --> 00:44:40.239 be seeing you further down the law.