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Neil's your guide Amtop Live, here we go Hey,
good evening, everyone. It's time for HamTalk
Live, episode number 272, the Voice of America
Museum Bethany Relay Station Anniversary Special
Event, recorded live on Thursday, September 16th,
2021. I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG. Thanks
for tuning in to this episode of HamTalk Live.
Tonight, we're joined by Jocelyn Breaux, KD8VRX.
And we'll take your calls live in just a few
minutes. Last week here on the show, it was the
Pearson family that was here to talk about their
trip to the Little League World Series and the
connections to Ham Radio. So if you missed that
show, you can listen anytime at HamTalkLive .com
or on your favorite podcast app or on YouTube.
And don't forget you can catch the re -broadcast
of HamTalk Live over on WTWW shortwave, that's
5085 on your AM dial Saturday afternoons at about
3 .30 p .m. Eastern Time. So we'll be talking
a special event tonight Up at the VOA Museum
coming up next week. If you're listening to us
live on Thursday night You can call in and ask
your questions and leave your comments here with
us a little later in the show I'll let you know
when the phone lines are open, but I will give
you the phone number right now So you can have
it ready to go here. It is eight five nine nine
eight two seventy three seventy three again the
phone number eight five nine nine eight two seventy
three seventy three will give that out again
uh... before it's time to call in but thought
would uh... go ahead and let you have that so
you can have it ready to go you can also tweet
us Whenever you like it's at ham talk live over
on Twitter And if you're on Spreaker you can
type in the comments that works, too And we'll
be back with Jocelyn right after this word from
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.com slash amateur. And tonight we have Jocelyn
Breaux, KD8VRX, joining us on the Orlando Amateur
Radio Club and Hamcation Zoom line. Jocelyn is
also VA to VRX, and he first became interested
in ham radio as a Boy Scout, became licensed
in 2013, now is an extra class license holder.
He's a technical analyst and systems administrator
with Vertical Solutions in Cincinnati, and he
is this year's president of the Westchester Amateur
Radio Association, WC8VOA. And that club station
is located at the National Voice of America Museum
of Broadcasting in northern Cincinnati. So Jocelyn,
welcome back. Well, thank you, Neil. Thank you
for having me on the show. And Jocelyn's in here
a lot. He listens a lot, calls in. We've worked
on the whole Yoda camp together. And now that
I've moved, we actually like even once or twice
get to hang out. So we've got this special event
coming up and I'm actually cleared for one of
the days to come work it. So we'll talk about
that in a little bit. But we've talked about
the museum on here a lot over the years. The
birthday celebration of that Bethany relay station
Is coming up next week and so there's a special
event planned for that so Before we get into
the all the details of the special event Tell
us a little bit about that the station there
in the museum that they'll be using for the special
event Absolutely, Neil. We're lucky enough to
have our shack right inside the museum. Actually,
as we have guests come in and tour the museum
on the weekends, after they see the overview
video, the first thing they get to see is the
ham shack. That's basically our time to showcase
amateur radio and see what we do. to again biggest
point is to showcase amateur radio but the other
thing is to kind of explain right these most
people don't understand what how powerful the
transmits were so we normally uh have a qso with
somebody overseas uh with a thousand watts on
a radio and then we explained that okay that
was a thousand watts he heard us we had a great
conversation and uh Keep in mind, the VOA, when
it was operating, each transmitter put out a
quarter million watts, so 250 ,000 watts. And
then they go, oh, that was 1 ,000? That was a
lot more. I'm like, yes. So it gives them a sense
of scale. how powerful the station was. And then
they move on to the rest of the tour. So it's
always good. The other thing too is if anybody
is interested in coming, we welcome anybody to
come and tour the museum and the shack. If you
are a ham, please let the person know at the
front. We give extra technical tours for hams.
It's a little known secret. We've got a couple
of trained docents that are ham operators that
understand what really interests you more than
the general public. So we've got a couple of
groups coming and we're doing a courtesy tour
to make sure they get the... the highly technical
tour and really get the nitty -gritty of the
station. Yes, we're very fortunate. We have four
operating positions, mostly ICOM radios. I'm
sure Will at ICOM would be happy to hear that.
Plus he's been there, he knows. But yes, so we've
got a couple of, we've got one. 17300 by 9100
and we've got another 7300 and an old ICOM 746
Pro. So we've got some decent gear, we've got
amplifiers, we've got good antennas. So we are
looking forward to turning on the switch for
the special event station and getting the buzz
going on the air. And I hadn't really planned
on on mentioning this but what while we're at
it there's a There's a recent upgrade I don't
know if it's quite done yet in the shack, but
but there's a very important upgrade to the shack
You want you want to talk about that for a second?
Yeah ceiling You had me wondering there for a
second yes we So we're like, as I said, we're
lucky enough to be part in the museum and unfortunately
when we go in on the weekends or we go in when
we apply radio, we, you know, turn on the AC
and that means we're cooling the whole building
down. So we've made the decision to put an AC
unit right in the shack that's controlled there.
Mark, he took care of that for us. I can't thank
him enough for it. and it makes the shack much
more comfortable. And it also will give us a
little bit of heat in the winter. Being a brick
building is fantastic, but it seems that when
it gets hot, it stays hot for a while. And when
it's cold, it stays cold for a while. So yes,
so just to make things in the shack a little
bit more comfortable for everybody. Yeah, I'm
looking forward to that one because I've spent
some some pretty hot summer days in that place.
And it's going to be nice to have that going
on in the shack. And I know it'll be a whole
lot better on the electric bill as well. So very
good upgrade. Well, let's talk about this special
event that's coming up. Talk about why we're
celebrating the birthday here of the station
and how people can work the special event. Yes,
absolutely. So the Bethany Relay Station was
one of the first stations to get on the air.
Obviously, the whole history is that Mr. Powell
Crossley Jr. had the WLWO for overseas down the
road a mile down from us. And that's really what
they started using to transmit into Europe as
the BVOA was being built. So it played a significant
role in the Second World War. uh... to defeat
the uh... propaganda that was going on and also
during the cold war uh... the same same thing
defeat propaganda and um... you know at the as
the v o a slogan is tell the truth and let the
world decide so that's what we uh... the station
is there and we want to celebrate that because
uh... we uh... very frankness say this properly
uh... we have uh... guests that come in uh...
that are from foreign countries and a lot of
them, their parents or grandparents learn a lot
by listening to the VOA and also learn to speak
English. So when you get those people in the
shack and you see how it impacted their lives,
it makes it special. So we want to celebrate
that. Even though the station was decommissioned
back in 94, we certainly want to we don't want
to forget that history. So it was decided a few
years ago that we should have a special event.
We didn't have one last year because of COVID
and all the restrictions, the shack was pretty
much closed. But we are very happy to be back
in force for the 77th anniversary of the Bethany
Relay Station. And we are planning on operating,
I believe it's going to be, you know, if 10 and
15 are open, we'll probably be on those bands,
but probably 20, 40, maybe at night 80 a little
bit. We've got somebody that is planning on operating
FT8. So there'll be a digital. We've got folks
certainly doing slide band. We had a CW operator
lined up, but he's got a conflict. So we'll see
if we can find somebody else to sub in for that.
And if you work The special event, if anybody
makes any contact, either it's digital or site
ban, on Monday, you'll be able to retrieve a
certificate. We'll have links on QRZ. We'll also
have links. Actually, the link is live now on
the website. So you can just go type in your
call sign. If it finds you in the log, it will
generate a certificate right there and there
for you. And you can just download it and print
it to your computer. And Joe, N8IDA has been
my cohort and making sure that we get a fantastic
certificate. And the few people that have seen
it have said, wow, it looks great. So we're pretty
excited about that. Yeah, I was just getting
ready to mention the ask you about the certificates.
And that's a cool little thing that you set up
to to to generate those and get all that stuff
online and So, you know, here's a chance to get
one of those commemorative Special event certificates
more wallpaper Here's your chance to get one
from the Voice of America station. So That's
coming up next weekend. So give us the the dates
and times and and again 40 20 maybe 15 and 10
if they're open Yep, definitely a 20 40 80 uh...
and that will start on the saturday twenty fifth
through the twenty six uh... we're going to be
doing it during museum open hours a little bit
before a little bit after so we're looking at
noon to five for sure people will be in there
uh... but i know in the past people uh... are
excited about the event. So operators normally
show up a little earlier and start running this
station and start the special event. And same
thing too, I'm sure that some folks won't mind
if there's a pile up to stay a little bit past
five, just to try to get as many people in the
log as possible. And yeah, as you said, the software
is for the certificates home brewed and it runs
on a Raspberry Pi. So people always go, I'm like,
no, it's very simple. uh... it works okay uh...
it does what it's supposed to do and every year
it's just been rock -solid so uh... i'll knock
it on wood uh... so we'll we keep using it it
works perfectly for our needs okay so uh... next
saturday and sunday uh... again uh... those times
are eastern time uh... so the museum's open one
to four so uh... probably uh... noon to five
is probably the best uh... time to look, but
there may be some people on later on and earlier.
So give a listen, check the spots of course,
and check it out. But that special event will
be running next weekend from the Voice of America
Museum. Alright, well we're going to take a break
and then we're going to come back and we're going
to take your calls and your comments and talk
a little bit more about some of the activities
going on on the air from WC8VOA right after this
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over the last several weeks, it's time once again
for the Ham Radio Joke of the Week. Now it's
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Now here's Rick Garrett in 9GSU with today's
Ham Talk Live Joke of the Week. I decided I wanted
to protect my ham shack when I was away, so I
bought a couple of dogs. I named them Rolex and
Timex, because, well, they're watchdogs. This
has been the Ham Talk Live. Ham radio joke of
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next week for another joke from Rick. Oh, he
did it again. What time is it anyway? I don't
have a Rolex or a Timex. Let's see, what was
it today? The guy who invented the Timex Sinclair
computer passed away today. I think I saw that.
My tweets wall ago. So that was that the time
at Sinclair 3000 was it? Yeah, there was a few
of those models, but yeah, I was not aware of
that. That's a shame. Yeah well anyway That's
the joke of the week and Rick will be back with
another one next week But right now it's time
for your call. So if you have a question for
Jocelyn, give us a call right now Phone lines
are open at 859 -982 -7373. Again 859 -982 -7373
or you can tweet us at HamTalk Live and if you're
listening to us on WTWW... or on the podcast
edition of the show. You won't be able to reach
us live since we're doing this here live on Thursday
night. And we do have some folks out there listening
live. I saw a tweet from Andy KK4LWR saying listening
to the show live tonight and can't wait for the
VOA Museum's special event, hoping for an FT8
QSO. Hopefully you can get Andy in the log. Yeah,
we're certainly going to try. I know that the
gentleman, Walt, that we had LTR that normally
runs that digital station usually does a pretty
good job. So I'm sure he'll be happy to try to
get as many in the log as possible. Yeah, absolutely
he does a good good job of keeping that running
and and usually multitasking even so hopefully
we'll get Andy in the log there next weekend
and I Imagine all I'll hang her out on sideband
some if I get really brave maybe maybe CW I Can
send Receiving a little rusty but we'll see Yeah,
and and it's not just receive. It's receiving
in a pile up Yes, exactly receiving in a pile
up and you know, you're not in the clear. So
Yeah, exactly So anyway, if you you have want
to chime in tonight give us a call eight five
nine nine eight two seventy three seventy three
or tweet us at ham talk live now, you know, there's
a special event going on but also you guys do
a lot of Outdoor stuff you guys go and activate
parks and do some stuff. So talk a little bit
about some of your poda Activations that have
happened here recently Yeah, you know, the weather's
finally cooled down. Well, anyways, in our part
of the world, the weather has cooled down. And
you had Dr. Wright on a couple weeks ago talking
about the portable operation challenge. And we
went to a park. to do that challenge, and it
was very good, very interesting. We had a good
time. Weather was perfect. We ran on batteries.
I think we didn't go past 15 watts on most of
our QSOs, so that was good. We did learn a few
things, as we always do when we... It's amazing
how everything in your shack works. You take
it out, and you put it in the field, and... you
discovered new things. One of the things is because
we had two stations running, we used bandpass
filters. And one thing we discovered is that
the bandpass filter was absorbing a lot of the
RF energy. So I don't know if there's something
wrong with that bandpass filter or not, but putting
a watt meter on the output showed that with the
bandpass filter, two watts were making it to
the antenna, and without eight watts were going.
When you're running 10, that's it. Again, if
you were running 100 watts, you probably wouldn't
notice. but again, lowering that low power. So
we had to get rid of that and isolate or separate
the antennas a little bit more and we made it
work. But unfortunately, we discovered that a
little too late. But yeah, we had a great time.
We had, I believe, we had six operators for that
event that showed up for most. And it was great
because they had sessions and we were in session
two, which I believe was Eastern time, noon to
four. So it was not very long, but everybody
stuck around and we certainly made it a good
time. And then last weekend was Ohio State Parks
on the Air. So again went down how a state park
and you have to your multiplier is working Oh
other Ohio State Parks, so you're looking more
at NVIS So we again we have two stations one
running in the is and the other one running on
40 To try to get as many parks as possible and
we did fairly well. I think this is our best
year so far All right, it's some some cool stuff
and a lot of a lot of parks being activated So
keep an eye out for those Alright, well, we have
a caller on the line. So let's go to the phone
lines. Good evening. Welcome to HamTalk Live.
Hey, good evening, Neil. I heard my name mentioned
earlier and figured I'd give you guys a call.
Oh, thanks, Andy, for giving us a call. It's
Andy KK4LWR down in central Florida. And how
are you this evening? And what do you think of
this special event coming up? I'm doing really
well actually I'm working on my new shack right
now, and I'm actually just now getting to unpacking
my The my radio and stuff I brought up to Yoda
camp this summer so getting that all set up and
You know very excited here in the new house and
right now. I don't have my antenna up yet So
my goal is is if I can work the special event
That'll be an accomplishment because we're going
to do We're gonna literally do a hundred watts
in a wire strung up on a fishing pole in my backyard
and see how long it takes to piss off my neighbors
Now now I didn't tell this story because we didn't
We couldn't find the the materials to make it
happen But but you're not gonna do that what
you suggested at Yoda camp and that get a metal
canoe to use as your antenna I mean You know,
next year at Yoda Camp, seeing the field up there
at the VOA museum, there's plenty of room that
we could get a few canoes loaded up and try and
check into the maritime net. I mean, I still
think that'd be quite fun to do. Yeah, definitely
get into the maritime net from the canoe. Yeah.
I mean, right? You know, you can load anything
up into an antenna, so why not? So a fishing
pole, and a line, and a wire, and that's what
you're going to do? Yeah, I have a 10 meter long
fiberglass fishing pole, and I have a wire going
into a 9 to 1 ballon, and I'll probably run some,
it's like 40 feet long, and I'll probably run
some wire off the bottom as much as I can, just
whatever I have lying around as a sort of counterpoise,
I hope. And then just try and, uh, you know,
tune it up and see if I can make it work and
try and get, you know, a digital signal out on
that and, uh, see if I can work the folks up
there at VOA. And it sounds like Daisy agrees
also. Oh yeah. She's going in the background
there. I think she's, uh, jealous that, uh, you
know, she hears your voice, but she misses spending
time with you. But yeah, so that's the plan.
I think it'd be fun. I'm looking forward to actually
getting QSO with VOA. Well, so we worked VOA
on field day from Dears, but you know, I'd like
to get one under my own call sign and hopefully
get a QSL card too while I'm at it. I might actually
do that. Jocelyn, are you guys doing paper QSO
cards if we send one up? Yeah, absolutely and
the end and it's nice to hear your voice. Thank
you for helping out at yoda camp this summer
Yeah, we do qsl. We just ask and like everybody
else and sase and we'll return it Obviously we
do the digital certificate because not everybody
wants the paper qsl But we figure that's an easy
way of giving everybody that took part in the
event something to remember the event by Very
cool. Yeah, I'm looking for that. I have a lot
of wall space in my Soon to be Shaq. So I need
to start working on getting cards to put up on
the wall. So there you go. Yeah, I hear you working
on the Shaq. I was just showing Jocelyn here
before the show. I have my desk assembled now.
It finally came after being on back order for
four months. And so I've got it assembled here.
Julie got most of that. taken care of and I I
love the thing up here but got it almost ready
to go it's just got to rearrange some furniture
and then then start looking at putting all the
equipment on it and getting some antennas up
so I'm like you I don't have anything outside
yet so This moving thing keeps interrupting ham
radio Yeah, yeah, we are not all blessed to have
wonderful stations just out of the box that you
know our home it takes some effort Well the nice
thing is the voice of America Museum is right
down the road so So next weekend, I'll get my
HF time on a special event, but Andy thank you
so much for calling in we appreciate it Say hi
to Daisy and we'll talk to you soon. Yeah. Great
talking to you, Neil and Jocelyn. And I'm taking
up the, uh, I'm looking through some photos right
now from Yoda camp and I just found that folder
of Jocelyn pointing at things. So, uh, that'll
be the remnant. So good talking to y 'all and
good luck with the special event. Uh, that's
the VOA museum. That sounds like a lot of fun
and I'm looking forward to working it. Thank
you very much and the appreciate your support
All right, take care Andy 73 73 Yeah, so so for
those of you who don't know Jocelyn, you know
was showing things or you know off at the Museum
and and you know pointing to different things
and somehow Every time somebody took a picture
of Jocelyn, it seemed like, anyway, that he was
pointing at something. So Sterling set up a collection
of Jocelyn pointing at things pictures. Yes,
and I was not aware of that album until much
later in the week when Chris said... What you
don't know about it and then proceeded to forward
it to me my wife and and my Nicholas my other
son and Everybody had a good chuckle and I'm
like, it's I I'm explaining things in the museum.
I I'm using my hands. I'm I'm very visual So
yeah, so it was just funny and then I played
a trick. Well, you know to go with the theme
We were in St. Louis, which is where Sterling
lives and I took pictures of me around town pointing
at things and I said, you can add these to the
album. Well, I think I hadn't seen it. And then
I said something about there was another picture
of Jocelyn pointing at something and, and, and
Sterling's like way ahead of you already got
a whole album of them. That's all yeah All right
eight five nine nine eight two seventy three
seventy three is the phone number if you'd like
to call in please do so right now and we'll we'll
get you on the air here before we wrap things
up tonight, but I've been reading the mail on
some of some things. I know that The club has
a go box set up for these uh... parks on the
air activations and that kind of thing so tell
us a little a little bit about uh... about that
side of things yes so a while back uh... we decided
that okay we we go operate often enough uh...
that we should probably invest in making something
that's easy for people to you know, bring to
the field. So with the help of Mark, KB8CIE,
Mike, KB8ZOIE, myself, Richard Cruder, which
is WC8RK. We built a basically got a Pelican
case on wheels with a handle as you see people
carry through the airport almost looks like it
one of those small suitcases but the radio there's
a battery there's a tuner in there it's got little
lights if you operate at night you can see there's
a charge controller and I mean basically you
have everything and we use an ICOM 7100 because
the remote head is detachable, so you could actually
leave the big case on the ground and just bring
the head to the picnic table or wherever you're
operating and just make things easier. And actually,
we just upgraded this week from the SLAVIA lead
acid battery that was in there and we shaved
10 pounds off the gold box because we just put
a lifeboat battery in there. And that's charging
up and we're looking, you know, We're looking
forward to using it. Yeah, those lithium iron
phosphate batteries are just amazing how much
power they will provide and so light and I'm
very happy with mine for sure. Just incredible
technology. All right, well let's... Try one
more time here for the phones at eight five nine
nine eight two seventy three seventy three or
tweet us at ham talk live or type into the comments
on the speaker and we'll we'll get you on here
before we go, but Let's remind everybody about
About what's going on next weekend and and how
to get involved Yes, so next weekend 25th 26th,
you know as you said Eastern time noon to 5 roughly
We will be on the air look for the call sign
WC 8 of VOA and we'll be running that special
event for the Voice of America Bethany relay
station 77th anniversary And then as I said,
anybody that worked the event can download the
digital certificate 24 hours later from our website.
There's also a link on QRZ to our website and
right down the front page, there's a VOA 77th
anniversary. Just click on there, put in your
call sign, it will generate the certificate for
you and you can download right there. So that's
the special event. And again, we're... Anybody
that's in the area that wants to come and help
Feel free. I think we we've got a few operators
already lined up but if you don't mind waiting
around or and actually the beauty is you're inside
the museum so you can always go tour the museum
and when you're done come back and see if the
guys need some help give somebody a break for
30 minutes an hour and You know then at home.
So yeah anybody anybody that wants to come and
help. We'd be happy to entertain that. All right,
very good. Well, we're going to finish things
up here tonight. Jocelyn, thank you so much for
being on the show, talking to us tonight about
this and also mentioned it over on Amateur Radio
Newsline, which just came out a little bit ago.
So there's a little segment about it on there.
uh... but uh... thanks for coming on the show
talking to us and uh... and best of luck with
the special event well nil thank you for having
us or having me on the show to talk about the
special event uh... we're trying to grow the
event uh... we've been doing this for well i
know i've been involved for five years and uh...
that's when we decide you know qsl cards are
great but it's it's a lot of uh... It's a lot
of manual labor. It's a lot of work as anybody
knows that if you QSL unless you have a service
and we just thought you know everybody really
likes the paper why not just do a digital certificate
that way it saves on the effort we have to put
in saves on stamps they find everything but again
if you want to so you'll get the electronic version
And like I mentioned to Andy we QSL 100 % if
you just sent us a QSL card with an SASC We'll
be happy to send you a QSL card back. No problems
at all Okay, very good. We'll check them out
wc8voa .org and Thanks for coming on the show
Thank you very much Neil appreciate the opportunity
to talk about it All right. Well, that is a wrap
for this week's edition of HamTalk Live. Thanks
to my guests, Jocelyn Bro, KD8VRX, and everybody
out there in cyberspace for listening and calling
in and typing in and invite you back next Thursday
night at 9 p .m. Eastern Time. And for a list
of our guests that are coming up, go to HamTalkLive
.com. So for now, this is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG,
saying 7 -3. seven five and may the good DX be
yours.