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neorep here we go welcome to hamtok live call

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in let's talk neil's your guy hamtok live here

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we go on hamtok radio Good evening, everyone.

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It's Ham Talk Live, episode number 277, a talk

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with Don Wilbanks, AE5DW, recorded live on Thursday,

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excuse me, recorded live on Thursday, October

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21st, 2021. I am your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG.

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Thanks for tuning in to this episode of Ham Talk

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Live. Tonight we're joined by Don Wilbanks, AE5DW

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and we'll take your calls a little later in the

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show. Last week here on HamTalk Live, we had

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Michael Coulter, W8CI from Hamvention and W4ORL,

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Michael Colley and Mark Brown in 4BCD from Orlando

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and Huntsville HamFest respectively. And they

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were here to talk about the challenges of the

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HamFest. Running in a pandemic. So if you missed

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tonight Don Wilbanks AE5DW joins us on the Orlando

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amateur radio club and hamcation hotline Ham

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radio's Don Wilbanks joins us from Picayune,

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Mississippi. You know him from amateur radio

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news line and from ham nation and we'll talk

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about that. And, and who knows what else tonight?

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We didn't have a real strict plan for tonight.

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So Don, welcome back. Great to talk to you again.

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Yeah, clearly you hit rock bottom again and invited

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me on. Here's what I want to know. Now, first

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off, I don't, I do not want you to explain to

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me molde because just the thought of a ham with

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a piece of wire a potato gun and an idea was

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enough to make my hair hurt so I don't want to

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hear about molde I don't want to know I thought

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it was I thought it was some weird thing with

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Maybe Groundhog Day some I don't know Alabama

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Chickasaw deal, but then you bring the whole

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chemistry thing and at that point I'm like, no,

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that's gonna make stuff smoke and it's probably

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gonna come out of my ears So I really don't want

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to hear about that. How you doing Neil? I'm doing

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good. I'm doing good Yeah, I'm excited because

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you know, I teach chemistry and so yeah, I'm

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excited for mole day It's kind of like Pi Day.

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You've heard of Pi Day, right? I know about that,

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yeah. On March 14th, because it's 3 .14. Well,

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Avogadro's number is 6 .02 times 10 to the 23rd

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power. So, it's 1023. So, it's not that complicated.

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I asked you specifically not to explain it. I

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know, I told you. What do you do? I explained

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it. This is why you can't get quality guests,

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Neil. This is it. This is why you have to resort

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to me. Oh my goodness. So there we go. Now the

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world knows. Moldy. Now the world knows. Not

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M -O -L -E, not M -O -L -D as we have done here

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in the South. Yes, not moldy. It rhymes with

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moldy, but yeah. Well, Don, it's been a while.

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It seems like every time we talk we have some...

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Children with us and we have to behave so Yeah,

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I mean besides those listening are us the childish

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adults which is fine Yeah Always around the young

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ham of the year or something and we have to behave

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like upstanding, you know, exactly whatever we

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tend to be So it's been a while since we've kind

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of gone outside of that realm. So Yeah, there's

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been a lot of changes in your life one of which

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Is a move? That happened at the beginning of

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the year with ham nation Over to the ham radio

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crash course channel with our friend Josh over

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there and yeah, so so tell us how that's How

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that's going with, uh, with the move from twit

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over to, um, YouTube. Yeah, it's been, it's been

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very interesting. First off, we found out, um,

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back probably around October of last year, October,

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November, something, something around that time.

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Um, it was about the same time I got fired from

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my heart, which oddly enough, um, uh, so forgive

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me if my brain is a little muddled from that.

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at the end of, you know, having to make a career

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change at my age. But anyway, yeah, that was

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when, you know, the pandemic was, I mean, it

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was hitting everything really hard, especially

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companies like broadcasters who lost all of a

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sudden 50 to 70 percent of their advertisers

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and therefore 50 to 70 percent of their income.

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So, you know, Leo Laporte on Twitter was no different

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and he being a Basically a small business, you

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know, he owns that it's not like he's a huge

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corporation like I heart was or is But yeah,

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so he had to get rid of some shows and unfortunately

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get rid of some people in order to keep the lights

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on over there and and ham talk or ham nation

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was one of those shows which was consistently

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in the top five or six of What they call landed

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shows which are shows that are not produced necessarily

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in -house Through twit and not hosted by Leo

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You know ham nation is was and is still owned

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by Bob Hile he has he owns the show and So it

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was an outside outside show produced by twit

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So anyway that you know that we were one of the

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ones that that fell by the wayside they they

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canceled a lot of shows in order to keep the

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lights on over there and it was just And it's

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what happened with COVID. It's just like I said,

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it affected every company on the planet and broadcasting

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was no different. So we weren't sure what was

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going to happen. And then thankfully, Ray Novak

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said he sent me an email. I believe email or

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private message or something. And he said, what

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if I can find a way to keep Ham Nation on the

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air? Would you guys be willing to continue with

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that? And I'm like, well, let's find out what

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you're talking about. And he said, well, you

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know, Josh, with Ham Radio Crash Course, we're

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going to move it over there. I'm like, OK, that'll

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be cool. We decided since Josh already has quite

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a full plate with his his own YouTube stuff,

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plus his job, and he's an IT guy, we kind of

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all decided that we would do it every other week,

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at least for now. Because remember we were losing

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Bob Hile and we were losing George Thomas as

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well. So the show was going to have a completely

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different look and feel and everything else.

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So there was a major retooling not only going

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to a different platform but different production

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with you know Twit no longer handling it and

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Josh doing it all basically live on the fly.

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He had to learn how to do that because I mean,

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he has done his own live presentations, but it's

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just him. And all of a sudden he has an ensemble

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cast and video pieces to throw in there and live

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guests to bring in and this, that and 17 other

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things to juggle. So we all learned how to do

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the show a different way while Josh learned how

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to do the show. And we all together, we figured

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it out. And so it has a slightly, I mean, pretty

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much the same format. Slightly different look

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and feel it definitely skews younger Just with

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with having Josh as the main host We miss Bob

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tremendously Bob comes on has been on a few times

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He was on for the 500th episode Which is amazing

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that when you think about it ham nation's been

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going for over ten years the first show was I

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think like a week after Dayton in 2011 so to

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have something like that that That was kind of

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started by Leo's idea of Telling Bob When he

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came on one of his one of his shows like it you've

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got to do a show about ham radio You've got to

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you've got to you got to and Bob's like I don't

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have time to do that I don't know it. I don't

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know how to do that since we know just You got

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to do it and so Leo talked him into it now here.

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We are ten years plus later five hundred and

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five six whatever it is You know shows later

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here. We are Is a is pretty amazing but yeah,

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so a lot of changes with ham nation a lot of

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a lot of stuff That's the same as well and what

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I like about it is we have brought in Joe Eisenberg

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k0 Neb Who has always been one of my favorite

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guests? He's the the kit building editor from

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CQ magazine. So with with losing George with

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smoke and solder we have We have Joe now in like

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every other show like once a month To do kit

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building and show us a bunch of techniques like

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that so yeah it's a. It's been interesting change

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the show is taking on a new life i think like

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like i said excuse younger and plus we have an

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entirely new audience who may not have ever heard

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of us. Now that we're on on josh's ham radio

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crash course youtube platform so it's been really

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good i think. Yeah, I want one story that Bob

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has told me and I don't remember the exact number

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but one of the stories he told me about ham nation

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was that when it first came on and Somebody had

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commented to him. Well, what are you gonna do

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after the first 20 shows because you're gonna

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run out of material And now you're over 500 500

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well listen as anybody knows if you've been around

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ham radio for any any length of time at all There

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are so many different facets and elements to

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this hobby Service whatever it is that if you

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get bored in amateur radio, it's your own fault

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because there's so many, I mean, you can do microwave

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stuff, you can do VHF, UHF, you can do weak signal,

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you can do meteor scatter, you can do moon bounce,

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you can do satellites, you can do slow scan TV,

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you can do amateur TV with fast scan full motion

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video, you can do DXing, you can do contests,

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you can... County hunt you can grid chase You

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can just hang out on your local repeater and

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chat with your friends You can do nothing, but

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CW. You can do nothing, but AM I mean you can

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now on and on and on and on if you get bored

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in this hobby And so there's always gonna be

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something new to talk about always and plus with

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now I mean you have all these digital modes now

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FTA and everything else which You know as i mean

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a lot of people are divided by f t eight some

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people love it some people think it's the death

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knell of amateur radio much like a lot of people

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thought sideband would be back in the early days.

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You know so it's it's it's constantly evolving

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and constantly changing and there's always gonna

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be something new to talk about in this hobby

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so the fact that that here we are ten years and

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five hundred and change episodes now. We still

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have just barely scratched the surface of it

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gives you some idea of of You know the the well

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to go to as far as subject material And I don't

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know when I look back at you know 40 some years

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of 45 six it is Of ham radio it seems like I

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tend to go in cycles So I'll be on repeaters,

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and I spent so many years working on repeaters

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and trying to link repeaters and do all this

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remote receiver stuff and do all of that kind

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of thing. And then finally it came to the time

00:17:31.579 --> 00:17:35.700
where, okay, it's time to move on to something

00:17:35.700 --> 00:17:40.880
else. And so then all of a sudden... get fired

00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:44.039
up about HF again and then I get on HF and do

00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:47.640
a whole bunch. The one that I've added is the

00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:51.779
satellite thing. I had to take some time off

00:17:51.779 --> 00:17:54.940
for the move and all the changes that happened

00:17:54.940 --> 00:17:57.720
this summer, but now I'm starting to get back

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on maybe once a week or so at least to get on

00:18:01.980 --> 00:18:04.400
satellite. But it seems like I just kind of go

00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:09.480
in spurts. For a while I'll be on VHF, UHF, and

00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:12.440
then then I'll go to HF, then I'll go to, you

00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:16.279
know, digital or, you know, and then, then it

00:18:16.279 --> 00:18:19.059
come back around to all of it again. So there's,

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there's always something and yeah, these new

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digital modes are popping up all the time. It

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used to be, you had, you know, four or five and

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that was it. And hardly anybody ran those. It

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was always you know 45 baud ready and that was

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it and and now there's there's a ton of them

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out there in fact sometimes it's kind of hard

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to tell which one's which yeah i don't have the

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years in amateur radio that you do i i would

00:18:46.549 --> 00:18:50.369
have if i had gotten licensed back in 1975 when

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i was 15 you know then then i would have um you

00:18:55.130 --> 00:18:59.220
know i would have uh i would have had uh A great

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deal more years in it than I do but I got licensed

00:19:02.200 --> 00:19:06.460
in in 95 and I remember You know the on the local

00:19:06.460 --> 00:19:09.339
repeaters packet was the big deal. Oh, you know,

00:19:09.339 --> 00:19:12.140
you got to get a kpc3, man You got to do that,

00:19:12.220 --> 00:19:14.480
you know, and you got to get on packet Check

00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:16.799
the bulletin board and you can get email off

00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:18.799
packet and everything and that so that was the

00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:22.440
big deal and then PSK 31 came along and I got

00:19:22.779 --> 00:19:26.539
I got involved in that a little bit, and I've

00:19:26.539 --> 00:19:28.420
played with Ritty a little bit in slow -scan

00:19:28.420 --> 00:19:35.339
TV, and I've made a few contacts on FTA. It's

00:19:35.339 --> 00:19:39.589
interesting. it's I see people complain that

00:19:39.589 --> 00:19:41.109
oh you just turn it on in the morning and you

00:19:41.109 --> 00:19:43.589
come back home after work and you've You've got

00:19:43.589 --> 00:19:46.009
your DX CC. Well, no, it's not exactly like there's

00:19:46.009 --> 00:19:49.029
a lot more It's a lot more I found unless I'm

00:19:49.029 --> 00:19:51.210
doing it wrong There's a lot more hands -on to

00:19:51.210 --> 00:19:53.069
ft8 than there is just turning on your computer

00:19:53.069 --> 00:19:57.250
and letting it fly But I have not I have not

00:19:57.250 --> 00:20:02.480
completely embraced that but I can see I can

00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:05.400
see its usefulness and it's just another mode,

00:20:05.819 --> 00:20:08.779
much in the same way that people get all cranked

00:20:08.779 --> 00:20:15.599
up about D -Star and DMR and you know, Yezu system

00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:19.279
fusion. I saw some post on one of the Facebook

00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:23.740
amateur radio groups today is like, okay, if

00:20:23.740 --> 00:20:27.099
I connect to my hotspot using D -Star and make

00:20:27.099 --> 00:20:28.940
contact around the world, is that ham radio?

00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:32.180
Well, yeah, it is because you're talking into

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a handy talkie and you're and you're accessing

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the internet via radio Then I think that you

00:20:39.579 --> 00:20:41.920
know and the person you're talking to is is very

00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.119
likely listening Maybe on a local repeater or

00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:47.259
is listening via their own hotspot or whatever

00:20:47.259 --> 00:20:50.819
on on a on a radio that That has an RF link to

00:20:50.819 --> 00:20:52.700
it. And so yeah, that's radio. It's like somebody

00:20:52.700 --> 00:20:55.079
else said, you know, everything is radio. Hell

00:20:55.079 --> 00:20:59.680
your cell phones radio Um, you know, it's all

00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:03.000
radio. So I, to me that stuff, that's just another

00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:06.640
mode. And, um, you know, there's, there's a lot

00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:08.619
of the vision in that, but you know what? Get

00:21:08.619 --> 00:21:12.000
on, you get on your radio, you do radio the way

00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:14.660
you want to do it. And don't worry about what

00:21:14.660 --> 00:21:17.599
everybody else says. As long as you're out there

00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:20.799
and you're having fun, you earned your license,

00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:24.640
you are using your privileges. If that's ham

00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:27.170
radio to you, then. Works for me. That's ham

00:21:27.170 --> 00:21:30.549
radio. That's that's where I stand You mentioned

00:21:30.549 --> 00:21:33.549
bulletin boards because the old packet bulletin

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boards and I remember I wasted many many many

00:21:39.630 --> 00:21:46.809
hours of my childhood on Teletype and boards

00:21:46.809 --> 00:21:51.650
Yeah, get on on on 40 meters and and these guys

00:21:51.650 --> 00:21:54.829
would have that I think it was w4 cn if I remember

00:21:54.829 --> 00:22:00.579
right and it had this huge bulletin board system

00:22:00.579 --> 00:22:03.140
so you could you know you could send messages

00:22:03.140 --> 00:22:05.920
and stuff but but the big thing that I really

00:22:05.920 --> 00:22:10.059
got into with teletype is sending pictures so

00:22:10.059 --> 00:22:12.619
what they would do is they would use letters

00:22:12.619 --> 00:22:17.079
on the keyboard uh huh yeah and send it one line

00:22:17.079 --> 00:22:21.400
at a time Yeah, and so like I got a picture of

00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:23.299
what one of the ones I remember is there was

00:22:23.299 --> 00:22:29.259
a picture of Abraham Lincoln But it was all in

00:22:29.259 --> 00:22:34.980
ASCII characters and it was the oh My goodness,

00:22:34.980 --> 00:22:38.400
I can't the names escape me the four score and

00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:42.359
seven years ago Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the Gettysburg

00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:44.940
address. Yeah, it was the words of the Gettysburg

00:22:44.940 --> 00:22:50.059
address. Oh, that's shaped Shaped as as like

00:22:50.059 --> 00:22:56.579
in head And so I collected tons and tons and

00:22:56.579 --> 00:23:00.279
tons of stuff like that I mean pictures of Garfield

00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:03.859
the cat and you know, right? It's just you know

00:23:03.859 --> 00:23:09.980
but I Don't know how many hundreds of hours My

00:23:09.980 --> 00:23:14.000
childhood got sunk into that but it was fun When

00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:16.980
I speaking of totally totally apropos, I mean

00:23:16.980 --> 00:23:21.940
totally off off -subject Speaking of Abraham

00:23:21.940 --> 00:23:25.380
Lincoln in childhood. I can remember as a young

00:23:25.380 --> 00:23:30.140
kid. I'm talking like four three or four years

00:23:30.140 --> 00:23:32.779
old my mother had this big bucket full of pennies

00:23:32.779 --> 00:23:36.440
and we would go through it and I found a penny

00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:40.960
that had it was Abraham Lincoln, but there was

00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:44.000
a Pipe that had been I don't know struck into

00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:46.019
but it was Abraham Lincoln smoking a pipe I don't

00:23:46.019 --> 00:23:47.900
know if you've ever seen these pennies or heard

00:23:47.900 --> 00:23:50.619
of them, but I found one and I still have it

00:23:50.619 --> 00:23:53.180
it's around here somewhere and and I have the

00:23:53.180 --> 00:23:56.000
newspaper clipping that my mother sent to To

00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:59.519
the to the local newspaper the Shawnee news star

00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:02.480
in Shawnee, Oklahoma They had a little a little

00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:06.650
a little blurb called star ology, which was Which

00:24:06.650 --> 00:24:08.829
is like you know local happenings and whatever

00:24:08.829 --> 00:24:13.069
it was like a three -year -old don will banks

00:24:13.069 --> 00:24:16.170
the son of archie and lorraine will banks. Over

00:24:16.170 --> 00:24:18.809
at you know that was when they would. Publish

00:24:18.809 --> 00:24:21.430
your address on the front page of the paper us

00:24:21.430 --> 00:24:24.569
nineteen sixty three sixty four crying out loud

00:24:24.569 --> 00:24:28.930
you know over on tucker street reports that their

00:24:28.930 --> 00:24:33.940
son don found that. a penny with Abraham Lincoln

00:24:33.940 --> 00:24:38.400
smoking a pipe. And so I have that newspaper

00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:39.960
clipping around here somewhere. My mother cut

00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:43.079
it out with pinking shears so it has the jagged

00:24:43.079 --> 00:24:45.920
edges and I still have that. And here now it's

00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:51.880
almost 60 years old and I scanned it and I scanned

00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:54.839
it along with the penny so I have an image of

00:24:54.839 --> 00:24:58.039
that. But yeah, so you're talking about Abraham

00:24:58.039 --> 00:25:00.299
Lincoln in childhood. Just brought that back.

00:25:00.539 --> 00:25:02.880
So completely, completely off subject. It's a

00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:06.339
cool memory. So thanks for triggering that. Yeah,

00:25:06.380 --> 00:25:09.640
it is cool stuff. Yeah. A trip down memory lane.

00:25:09.960 --> 00:25:12.480
So back when you had to walk to school uphill,

00:25:12.480 --> 00:25:14.880
both ways through 10 feet of snow without any

00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:17.220
shoes in the middle of a hurricane and a sharknado.

00:25:17.779 --> 00:25:20.539
So exactly. That's right. Yeah. there you go

00:25:20.539 --> 00:25:23.720
all right well it's it's break time here so we

00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:25.740
need to take a break but when we come back we're

00:25:25.740 --> 00:25:28.759
going to talk a little more about uh young ham

00:25:28.759 --> 00:25:32.039
of the year and and and some other stuff uh and

00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:36.039
who knows and and i see mike askens has even

00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:40.200
left a comment here so so who knows what we're

00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:43.819
in for so did he spell it all right yeah yeah

00:25:43.819 --> 00:25:48.849
you did I'll give you a sneak peek here. It's

00:25:48.849 --> 00:25:53.190
a Shawnee shoutout. There you go. Hey, Mikey,

00:25:54.109 --> 00:25:56.029
my closest friend, my brother from another mother.

00:25:56.109 --> 00:25:58.769
We met in first grade. Love that guy. Love you,

00:25:59.589 --> 00:26:05.390
Mike. Ke5 CXP and part of the Newsline family.

00:26:05.890 --> 00:26:07.950
So, all right. Well, we're going to take a break.

00:26:08.029 --> 00:26:10.710
When we come back, we'll talk more with Don Wilbanks,

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Twitter, and Instagram. All right, well, before

00:29:33.650 --> 00:29:37.210
we get back to Dawn and the phone lines here,

00:29:37.670 --> 00:29:43.029
we've already got calls and comments here. We'll

00:29:43.029 --> 00:29:45.750
get through all of those in just a moment, but

00:29:45.750 --> 00:29:51.470
first it is time once again And I've been saving

00:29:51.470 --> 00:29:55.150
this one because as I said, you know We had to

00:29:55.150 --> 00:29:58.309
behave, you know most of the time but I figured

00:29:58.779 --> 00:30:01.180
Figured this would be the night to bring this

00:30:01.180 --> 00:30:05.839
one out. So strap in, here we go. It's the N9GSU

00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:09.059
Joke of the Week. Now it's time for the HamTalk

00:30:09.059 --> 00:30:12.160
Live Ham Radio Joke of the Week, the part of

00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:14.980
the show where Rick tells us a ham radio joke.

00:30:15.259 --> 00:30:18.019
The HamTalk Live Ham Radio Joke of the Week is

00:30:18.019 --> 00:30:21.500
brought to you by QRM Labs. Now, here's Rick

00:30:21.500 --> 00:30:26.059
Garrett, N9GSU, with today's HamTalk Live Joke

00:30:26.059 --> 00:30:33.200
of the Week. So one of my hand buddies showed

00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:35.940
up with a brand new HT and I asked him where'd

00:30:35.940 --> 00:30:38.480
you get that? He said it's the strangest story

00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:41.099
I was walking down the street and this beautiful

00:30:41.099 --> 00:30:44.039
girl comes up carrying this radio takes all of

00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:46.559
her clothes off and says you can have anything

00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:50.740
you want So I took the radio. I said good thing

00:30:50.740 --> 00:30:52.940
because her clothes probably would not have fit

00:30:52.940 --> 00:30:57.569
you anyway This has been the ham talk live ham

00:30:57.569 --> 00:31:00.769
radio joke of the week with Rick Garrett in nine

00:31:00.769 --> 00:31:04.109
GSU Tune in again next week for another joke

00:31:04.109 --> 00:31:09.549
from Rick Okay, I take it back we had not quite

00:31:09.549 --> 00:31:13.309
hit rock bottom, but now yeah, but we have now

00:31:13.309 --> 00:31:19.980
Well, no not yet, we have it oh wait That's right

00:31:19.980 --> 00:31:24.019
Brown Paul Brown is on the line. Yes Co as I

00:31:24.019 --> 00:31:27.000
refer to him as qr Paul cuz I can never hear

00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:30.319
him on the air Once he comes out we then we hit

00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:34.039
rock bottom Now we've hit rock bottom. Yeah,

00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:36.920
now we there we go. That's it No place to go,

00:31:37.220 --> 00:31:40.900
but mark mark this time down nine thirty two

00:31:40.900 --> 00:31:45.180
This is when the world ended Just what you thought

00:31:45.180 --> 00:31:49.900
the show couldn't suck more I'm here. We are.

00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:52.440
Well, good evening, Paul. Welcome to Hamtalk

00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:56.720
Live. Yeah. Yeah. If we get Askins on here, that's

00:31:56.720 --> 00:32:00.720
yeah, that'd be a lot of fun. Yeah. Askin says

00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:04.160
Dawn's wasted youth on CB and then the Shawnee

00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:06.940
shout out and then says, love you, Dawn. And

00:32:06.940 --> 00:32:10.779
I really like you a lot, Neil. Yeah. So you really

00:32:10.779 --> 00:32:13.460
just could have stopped with Dawn's wasted. That

00:32:13.460 --> 00:32:15.640
would have been just, that would have said it

00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:21.289
all anyway. well paul what do you have for us

00:32:21.289 --> 00:32:26.069
tonight? well you know don had mentioned uh...

00:32:26.069 --> 00:32:31.049
about ham nation being you know being on for

00:32:31.049 --> 00:32:34.549
you know now a little bit over ten years and

00:32:34.549 --> 00:32:40.069
uh... you know ham nation is actually responsible

00:32:40.069 --> 00:32:46.240
for me getting back into ham radio and unfortunately

00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:48.880
for you guys, also responsible for me being on

00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:55.319
Newsline. I got licensed in 77, and then college

00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:59.680
happened, and then condo and apartment life and

00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:02.200
everything, and I always kept my license current,

00:33:02.259 --> 00:33:04.420
but I only played on two meters a little bit

00:33:04.420 --> 00:33:07.440
here and there. And then when I heard that Bob

00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:10.880
was gonna have a Ham Radio podcast, I thought,

00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:14.049
hey, I know Bob. I'll listen and see what it's

00:33:14.049 --> 00:33:17.109
like. And I started listening right away and

00:33:17.109 --> 00:33:20.349
it got the interest going again. And I'm like,

00:33:20.349 --> 00:33:23.430
you know, I've still got my radios all set up

00:33:23.430 --> 00:33:28.109
over here. Maybe I'll just put up an antenna

00:33:28.109 --> 00:33:31.910
and see if I still like ham radio. And turned

00:33:31.910 --> 00:33:35.789
out that I did. I mean, I really, it woke everything

00:33:35.789 --> 00:33:38.490
back up. It's like, yeah, you know what? All

00:33:38.490 --> 00:33:40.940
the things I've tried over years. This is the

00:33:40.940 --> 00:33:43.400
one hobby that has stuck with me my whole life.

00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:49.079
And again, and then when I heard Don mention

00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:53.420
about Bill passing away, I thought, well, I wonder

00:33:53.420 --> 00:33:57.000
if they could use some help. And I got some experience

00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:00.940
doing this stuff. So I emailed Don and unfortunately

00:34:00.940 --> 00:34:04.119
he lost his brain temporarily and said, yes.

00:34:04.980 --> 00:34:10.079
But for me, the news line thing is just, has

00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:13.179
also been part of my life forever since back

00:34:13.179 --> 00:34:18.099
when I first started and I belonged to Bob's

00:34:18.099 --> 00:34:21.960
Club down in Marissa, Illinois. And we would

00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:25.940
carry the Westlink report on our repeater every

00:34:25.940 --> 00:34:28.539
week. Somebody would bring up the auto patch

00:34:28.539 --> 00:34:31.860
and dial in and we'd play Westlink. So I used

00:34:31.860 --> 00:34:35.880
to listen to the predecessor as a kid. And now

00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:38.800
I get to be an anchor, which is just for me really

00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:42.150
cool. Well, you know the reason that the reason

00:34:42.150 --> 00:34:44.550
that that I said yes was because the salad your

00:34:44.550 --> 00:34:46.710
seller demands were just Exactly in line with

00:34:46.710 --> 00:34:48.530
what we were willing to pay which is nothing

00:34:48.530 --> 00:34:52.269
Which is good because you get 10 % of that is

00:34:52.269 --> 00:34:54.809
my agent. Yeah, and believe me we're getting

00:34:54.809 --> 00:35:06.039
every penny's worth Paul and I have this it seems

00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:08.679
like this adversarial relationship, but it's

00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:12.699
just because I I love to dig at people especially

00:35:12.699 --> 00:35:16.599
people who can take it and Dish it right back

00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:22.320
and so that's that's Paul seriously People listening

00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:26.380
Probably think that oh my god. What in the hell

00:35:26.380 --> 00:35:30.289
will banks must hate Paul I don't dude. I think

00:35:30.289 --> 00:35:32.809
you're like you're like the coolest guy You really

00:35:32.809 --> 00:35:34.409
are and I just want to I just want to get that

00:35:34.409 --> 00:35:36.590
out on the record and no That's not necessarily

00:35:36.590 --> 00:35:40.130
the alcohol talking but just the fact that you

00:35:40.130 --> 00:35:44.250
and I just we have this this this this You you

00:35:44.250 --> 00:35:47.309
can you can give as well as get and that's I

00:35:47.309 --> 00:35:48.949
really appreciate that because I'm one of these

00:35:48.949 --> 00:35:51.809
kind of people that That if I'm leaving you alone,

00:35:51.809 --> 00:35:55.840
you probably want to find out why So yeah, I

00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:57.559
just I really appreciate you Paul. I just want

00:35:57.559 --> 00:35:59.300
to go out on the record and say that and again

00:35:59.300 --> 00:36:02.260
That's not necessarily the alcohol talking Yeah,

00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:05.860
I you know the same here You know I had a lot

00:36:05.860 --> 00:36:07.940
of respect for what you were doing before I emailed

00:36:07.940 --> 00:36:10.099
you to see if I could help and that's why I did

00:36:10.099 --> 00:36:13.719
that but you know Neil and you know do that the

00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:18.800
news line family we're all like a weird dysfunctional

00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:22.780
group that just We agreed that if we could all

00:36:22.780 --> 00:36:26.559
be in a physical office We are all the people

00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:29.619
we would want to work with Exactly, and you said

00:36:29.619 --> 00:36:33.360
it right? It is a family news I mean I got involved

00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:36.440
with it in 95 right after I became after I got

00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:40.619
licensed when when One our young ham of the year

00:36:40.619 --> 00:36:46.070
winner from from 93 introduced me to Bill, and

00:36:46.070 --> 00:36:47.889
Bill was like, oh, you're in radio? Oh, well,

00:36:47.909 --> 00:36:50.190
have I got a golden opportunity for you. And

00:36:50.190 --> 00:36:53.150
so the ink hadn't even dried on my license before

00:36:53.150 --> 00:36:55.150
I was involved with amateur radio newsline, which

00:36:55.150 --> 00:36:57.750
was cool to me because as soon as I bought that

00:36:57.750 --> 00:37:02.489
HTX 202 for myself for my birthday in 1994 in

00:37:02.489 --> 00:37:04.610
September when I was studying for my license,

00:37:05.070 --> 00:37:06.889
and then ended up, what, a couple months later

00:37:06.889 --> 00:37:10.030
taking the test, I discovered newsline on the

00:37:10.030 --> 00:37:11.489
local repeater, and I thought, well, this is

00:37:11.489 --> 00:37:14.809
the best thing since sliced bread. And, you know,

00:37:14.969 --> 00:37:18.969
to be involved in that and to have kind of grown

00:37:18.969 --> 00:37:24.050
up as a ham with having Bill Pasternak as the

00:37:24.050 --> 00:37:26.210
weird uncle mentor kind of a deal, you know,

00:37:26.309 --> 00:37:30.610
and I love that man. I mean, like a brother or

00:37:30.610 --> 00:37:32.469
an older brother or uncle or whatever. I mean,

00:37:33.150 --> 00:37:35.809
there's not a day goes by that. just like with

00:37:35.809 --> 00:37:39.090
my parents, you know, my mother, my dad died

00:37:39.090 --> 00:37:42.730
in 91, my mother in 95, and then Bill seven years

00:37:42.730 --> 00:37:45.230
ago, and those three people, there's not a day

00:37:45.230 --> 00:37:47.369
goes by that I don't need to pick up the phone

00:37:47.369 --> 00:37:49.349
and call them and ask them something, and Bill

00:37:49.349 --> 00:37:51.730
is right there, right there, right there in that

00:37:51.730 --> 00:37:56.449
group. Yep, I agree, and I really wish I had

00:37:56.449 --> 00:38:01.190
had the opportunity to meet Bill, but I have

00:38:01.190 --> 00:38:03.769
never in any of the public appearances we've

00:38:03.769 --> 00:38:07.900
done, Hurry anybody sick in but wonderful things

00:38:07.900 --> 00:38:10.400
about bill. Oh, you won't you won't hear it You

00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:13.139
won't hear a bad thing period. You just never

00:38:13.139 --> 00:38:17.960
well I haven't in 25 26 years or whatever of

00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:19.539
being in this hot. No, I've never heard a bad

00:38:19.539 --> 00:38:24.920
thing Yeah, just the best Yeah, well Paul, thanks

00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:28.119
so much for calling in and and and bringing the

00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:31.480
show to a new low Yeah, exactly. Oh, we appreciate

00:38:33.460 --> 00:38:36.039
You know, you got it got to go with your strength

00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:40.380
and yeah, you know, that's mine Yeah, there you

00:38:40.380 --> 00:38:43.619
go. So nowhere to go but up get Askins on the

00:38:43.619 --> 00:38:48.900
horn. Yeah, there you go Yeah, I appreciate you

00:38:48.900 --> 00:38:52.280
man, I really do I Brought it to a certain low,

00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:55.179
but then you know Mike Mike's got the capacity

00:38:55.179 --> 00:38:59.780
to take it even lower. So yeah Well, Mike, Mike,

00:38:59.900 --> 00:39:02.019
listen, Mike was on QVC for a while and home

00:39:02.019 --> 00:39:05.519
shopping. So, yeah. I have to ask him about that.

00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:10.000
Oh, he was really? Yeah, yeah, he was a yeah,

00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:13.199
he was they would he had a weekly a weekly deal

00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:15.039
where they would they would send him product

00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:18.019
or whatever to to a review. And he had he would

00:39:18.019 --> 00:39:21.579
spend like an hour or two on camera from his

00:39:21.579 --> 00:39:24.480
studio there in Oklahoma. Talking about whatever

00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:26.179
product it was that they sent him. Yeah, he's

00:39:26.179 --> 00:39:30.340
a he's a home shopping star that boy. Oh Well,

00:39:30.340 --> 00:39:34.079
no, we have a little no, we have a little income

00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:37.280
and then because my wife bought a lot of home

00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:44.940
shopping My wife and I had a thing had a stained

00:39:44.940 --> 00:39:49.059
-glass studio at one point and when QVC did that

00:39:49.059 --> 00:39:50.860
50 and 50 thing where they traveled around the

00:39:50.860 --> 00:39:53.409
country and looked for you know, local people's

00:39:53.409 --> 00:39:56.610
stuff. When they came to Indiana, we were actually

00:39:56.610 --> 00:39:59.170
on and we had a stained glass piece we did that

00:39:59.170 --> 00:40:03.389
they sold. Well, that's neat. Yeah, I'll sign

00:40:03.389 --> 00:40:06.230
autographs for you if you want. Nah, that's fine.

00:40:07.670 --> 00:40:11.289
All right. I'm good. All right, guys. All right.

00:40:11.369 --> 00:40:17.090
Thanks, Paul. See ya. Paul Brown, OED9GCO from

00:40:17.090 --> 00:40:22.219
Valparaiso. But a moment too soon. Yeah. All

00:40:22.219 --> 00:40:24.659
right, let's see. Well, we've got another call

00:40:24.659 --> 00:40:30.199
on the line. Let's see Yeah, let's do it Good

00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:34.519
evening. Welcome to ham talk live Well, hello

00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:38.800
Neil, it's Skeeter in five a sh and Don how are

00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:41.840
you? It's another one. There's another one radio

00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:48.889
dude. Hey Skeeter Hey guys Listen, when I saw

00:40:48.889 --> 00:40:51.210
Don... Live from the old Disjockey's retirement

00:40:51.210 --> 00:40:56.769
home. Well, also known as the Kenworth T680 in

00:40:56.769 --> 00:41:02.369
my case. There you go. There you go. So, just

00:41:02.369 --> 00:41:05.409
when I saw that, Neil, when I saw that Don was

00:41:05.409 --> 00:41:07.010
going to be on tonight, I thought, well, maybe

00:41:07.010 --> 00:41:10.489
I better call in just to offer balance to the

00:41:10.489 --> 00:41:13.489
program. Yeah, exactly. Yes, a little touch of

00:41:13.489 --> 00:41:18.320
sanity. Well now I'm not gonna go that far but

00:41:18.320 --> 00:41:24.420
But you know we I heard you guys talking earlier

00:41:24.420 --> 00:41:27.800
about you know ham nation hitting over 500 episodes

00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.780
and and you know the what could have possibly

00:41:30.780 --> 00:41:33.340
Been the end of it, you know at the end of this

00:41:33.340 --> 00:41:37.599
last year and the rebirth Thanks to Josh and

00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:40.260
and the continuance of it and it just kind of

00:41:40.260 --> 00:41:42.659
the the word that came to my mind was commitment

00:41:42.659 --> 00:41:46.139
because again You know, just like amateur radio

00:41:46.139 --> 00:41:49.679
news line, it's it's a volunteer situation. It's

00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:52.199
people that love this hobby, love sharing this

00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:56.119
hobby and through. Yeah, I was barely I mean,

00:41:56.139 --> 00:41:58.420
it was barely dry on my license when Ham Nation

00:41:58.420 --> 00:42:01.059
came on. I got licensed the end of November of

00:42:01.059 --> 00:42:04.659
2010. And so I'm just on fire for Ham Radio.

00:42:04.659 --> 00:42:06.960
I'm trying to absorb every absorb everything

00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:10.340
I can on the subject and learn as much as I can

00:42:10.340 --> 00:42:13.320
because. actually wanted to become a ham, kind

00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:16.219
of like Don when I was like 13 years old, but

00:42:16.219 --> 00:42:18.320
the circumstances just weren't right, there were

00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:20.460
family situations going on and stuff I won't

00:42:20.460 --> 00:42:23.980
go into, but it just was not the time for me

00:42:23.980 --> 00:42:26.019
to do it. I did not have the time to learn the

00:42:26.019 --> 00:42:29.460
code, nobody to study it with, so it just kind

00:42:29.460 --> 00:42:31.179
of went by the wayside and then I went off and

00:42:31.179 --> 00:42:32.980
got interested in other things when I was in

00:42:32.980 --> 00:42:38.349
junior high and then high school. So Ham Nation

00:42:38.349 --> 00:42:42.269
comes along and I knew about Bob Heil through

00:42:42.269 --> 00:42:45.409
his work with The Who and The Who is one of my

00:42:45.409 --> 00:42:47.869
favorite bands of all time and so I knew the

00:42:47.869 --> 00:42:51.039
name Heil Sound and I knew You know, I knew that

00:42:51.039 --> 00:42:54.920
Bob was involved with their sound and their productions

00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:57.960
back in the day. And so when I saw this show

00:42:57.960 --> 00:42:59.940
coming on, I thought, man, I got to watch this.

00:43:00.059 --> 00:43:02.260
It's another thing I can use to keep learning

00:43:02.260 --> 00:43:07.360
about ham radio. And lo and behold, it was everything

00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:09.380
I'd hoped it would be. And then it grew and kept

00:43:09.380 --> 00:43:12.019
improving and growing. And the production values

00:43:12.019 --> 00:43:15.440
got even better. And the guests got cooler and

00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:18.630
more interesting. You know, and like you said,

00:43:18.869 --> 00:43:21.590
here it is, 500 episodes later. And I am even

00:43:21.590 --> 00:43:25.369
in one of the episodes of Ham Nation, briefly.

00:43:25.849 --> 00:43:27.650
I mean, I was sitting in Bob Shack. I just happened

00:43:27.650 --> 00:43:29.989
to be in the Springfield area when he was living

00:43:29.989 --> 00:43:32.329
in the Ozarks still. And I got a hold of him

00:43:32.329 --> 00:43:34.510
just to see, hey, can we go out to lunch or dinner?

00:43:34.670 --> 00:43:36.929
Are you in the area? And he told me he was. And

00:43:36.929 --> 00:43:39.579
so... We wound up going out to dinner, but then

00:43:39.579 --> 00:43:42.500
he invited me to come into the shack at his house

00:43:42.500 --> 00:43:45.639
there and Participate in the program that night,

00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:49.300
and it's the episode from from Dayton to Visalia

00:43:49.300 --> 00:43:51.239
I think is the title of it anyway. It's on my

00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:54.920
QRZ page. I've got a link there, but That was

00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:58.440
that was so great to actually see Bob's shack

00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:02.559
in person. I mean that's a Serious Radio Shack

00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:05.239
right there. Yeah, I think that I need to get

00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:06.920
there and shit I've never I've never been to

00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:08.980
Bob's place, but that's not that wasn't the first

00:44:08.980 --> 00:44:12.599
time you were on When we brought you in to amateur

00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:15.039
radio newsline you cut a little video piece on

00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:19.099
on how you produce Newsline and we've we played

00:44:19.099 --> 00:44:22.360
that on ham nation too. So That's right. That

00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:24.599
came before that that is true. I came before

00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:27.920
that right with that together. Yeah, yeah, but

00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:33.219
And just like, and linking them together, Newsline,

00:44:33.739 --> 00:44:36.380
again, all volunteers, all people who love the

00:44:36.380 --> 00:44:42.159
hobby, and again, we also hit a crossroads when

00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:45.179
Bill passed away and became a silent key. But

00:44:45.179 --> 00:44:47.239
there was a commitment there, we've got to keep

00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:49.739
this going. and we've got to find the people

00:44:49.739 --> 00:44:52.320
that we need because Bill, as you've said often

00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:55.239
Don, Bill was a one -man show as far as writing.

00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:59.420
He was. And submitting and soliciting the reporters

00:44:59.420 --> 00:45:03.159
to do their bits and the anchors to do their

00:45:03.159 --> 00:45:08.420
jobs. And so, you know, I didn't have a very

00:45:08.420 --> 00:45:10.480
long time to get to know Bill, but we did have

00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:14.139
several conversations. over the few years from

00:45:14.139 --> 00:45:16.659
the time I started with Newsline, which really

00:45:16.659 --> 00:45:19.199
started with me just filing an audio report regarding

00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:21.840
a special event station that our club in northeast

00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:24.500
Arkansas, the Northeast Arkansas Radio Club,

00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:27.659
was putting on in honor of Johnny Cash's birthday.

00:45:28.179 --> 00:45:30.579
And when I sent him the press release and he

00:45:30.579 --> 00:45:32.260
got back to me and said, hey, you're a radio

00:45:32.260 --> 00:45:34.559
guy, you're an on -air guy, why don't you just,

00:45:34.619 --> 00:45:36.380
I'll write the script, you record it and send

00:45:36.380 --> 00:45:39.900
it. So, okay. And then we got on the subject

00:45:39.900 --> 00:45:43.010
of anchoring and... And as Donna said in the

00:45:43.010 --> 00:45:45.289
past many times, Bill was a guy you couldn't

00:45:45.289 --> 00:45:47.710
say no to. And I was thrilled. I wanted to anchor.

00:45:47.869 --> 00:45:49.809
I kind of offered my services and said, look,

00:45:49.809 --> 00:45:52.130
I'd like to dip my toe into this and see if I

00:45:52.130 --> 00:45:55.610
can anchor this newscast. And so from there it

00:45:55.610 --> 00:45:58.630
went on. And then we teamed up with Karen Eve

00:45:58.630 --> 00:46:02.409
Murray. God bless her. She picked up the mantle

00:46:02.409 --> 00:46:06.070
and ran with it. And we've had lots of conversations.

00:46:06.269 --> 00:46:09.099
I've kind of helped her because she wrote for

00:46:09.099 --> 00:46:12.159
so long for newspapers and magazines and writing

00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:15.260
for the eye to read is very different from writing

00:46:15.260 --> 00:46:17.880
for the ears to hear. Yeah, writing for radio

00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:19.179
and writing for print is completely different.

00:46:19.420 --> 00:46:22.500
And this bears repeating. We need to repeat this

00:46:22.500 --> 00:46:24.380
again because we've told this story, at least

00:46:24.380 --> 00:46:28.800
I have several times. Bill got sick and I had

00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:30.719
to take a break from anchoring because I was

00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:33.579
doing night classes for real estate back during

00:46:33.579 --> 00:46:37.809
that time and you had kind of taken over. running

00:46:37.809 --> 00:46:40.449
things while Bill was in the hospital and then

00:46:40.449 --> 00:46:42.989
I remember my phone rang one night and it was

00:46:42.989 --> 00:46:46.150
it was you and Bill and you brought me in together

00:46:46.150 --> 00:46:49.670
on a on a on a conference call and it was like

00:46:49.670 --> 00:46:52.710
we were talking about the people like we'd gotten

00:46:52.710 --> 00:46:54.789
these emails and I think you were the one I think

00:46:54.789 --> 00:46:57.190
who mentioned Karen Eve Murray and you were going

00:46:57.190 --> 00:46:59.650
down her resume and all I could hear was Bill

00:46:59.650 --> 00:47:01.690
and and his voice was kind of frail at the time

00:47:01.690 --> 00:47:06.269
all I heard was hire her hire her hire her hire

00:47:06.269 --> 00:47:10.519
her Okay, we'll do that and it was like it I

00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:13.019
I want to say it was the next day or the next

00:47:13.019 --> 00:47:17.059
day or two after that that bill had passed and

00:47:17.059 --> 00:47:19.659
It was like it was like a punch to the gut that

00:47:19.659 --> 00:47:23.280
that that that last time I talked to bill Was

00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:25.599
that night with the three of us on the phone

00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:29.079
and I will never forget that Never forget that

00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:32.380
was a that was a pretty amazing situation and

00:47:32.380 --> 00:47:35.019
and yeah she came with with great credentials

00:47:35.019 --> 00:47:38.570
and great experience and and and and a love of

00:47:38.570 --> 00:47:41.409
the hobby just like all the rest of us and so

00:47:41.409 --> 00:47:43.969
she uh... you know we we worked with her and

00:47:43.969 --> 00:47:45.829
showed her some of the past scripts and how they

00:47:45.829 --> 00:47:49.070
went the interesting thing was what the way that

00:47:49.070 --> 00:47:51.369
she came our way was i'd kind of put the word

00:47:51.369 --> 00:47:54.949
out in various uh... ham radio circles hey you

00:47:54.949 --> 00:47:57.429
know because we we knew i think we all pretty

00:47:57.429 --> 00:47:59.349
much knew that that bill was not going to be

00:47:59.349 --> 00:48:01.829
able to come back and and to do a job again i

00:48:01.829 --> 00:48:04.489
mean he he he made it pretty clear that he was

00:48:04.489 --> 00:48:07.380
not not at all going to be able to pick it up.

00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:10.579
So I knew we had to put the word out. And so

00:48:10.579 --> 00:48:12.960
we got several responses from people who, yeah,

00:48:13.059 --> 00:48:16.219
you know, I'd like to be part of Newsline and

00:48:16.219 --> 00:48:18.000
stuff. In fact, it was kind of overwhelming.

00:48:18.860 --> 00:48:22.420
And if anybody's listening that I did not get

00:48:22.420 --> 00:48:25.199
back to on that, please, a thousand pardons.

00:48:25.340 --> 00:48:27.679
I apologize. It was just a bit overwhelming.

00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:31.280
It was like putting a job. uh... listing out

00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:33.539
there and having a thousand resumes come in the

00:48:33.539 --> 00:48:35.679
also never wasn't quite that many but it was

00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:39.739
a lot and yellow there was was among those and

00:48:39.739 --> 00:48:43.460
uh... and so we did quote unquote hire her even

00:48:43.460 --> 00:48:47.079
though nobody's getting paid anything right but

00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:49.619
she can she is this is a little bit around i

00:48:49.619 --> 00:48:53.460
mean she she she went from being from from say

00:48:53.460 --> 00:48:55.340
okay well maybe i can help a little bit all the

00:48:55.340 --> 00:48:58.599
sudden bill dying they were like okay you're

00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:05.739
the new bill And it was overwhelming. Yeah, but

00:49:05.739 --> 00:49:09.099
she just she jumped right in the big middle of

00:49:09.099 --> 00:49:12.519
it and she I mean, it was like the ultimate on

00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:16.820
-the -job training. She learned how to you know,

00:49:17.300 --> 00:49:18.920
okay, you got to have these these blocks have

00:49:18.920 --> 00:49:22.880
to be Ten minutes long they can't go over and

00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:25.699
yeah, and and then I think it was my idea to

00:49:25.699 --> 00:49:28.639
shorten it from three segments to two just to

00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:32.099
make things a little bit easier and Streamline

00:49:32.099 --> 00:49:33.380
things a little bit because there were there

00:49:33.380 --> 00:49:35.579
were a lot of stories that bill had that that

00:49:35.579 --> 00:49:37.920
were radio related But not necessarily amateur

00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:40.739
radio related and I thought you know we could

00:49:40.739 --> 00:49:43.679
probably do some streamlining a little bit and

00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:45.900
And that's kind of what we did and so now we're

00:49:45.900 --> 00:49:48.980
a 20 minute ish show instead of a 30 minute ish

00:49:48.980 --> 00:49:52.619
show and and yeah, I just I just the people who

00:49:52.619 --> 00:49:55.440
came in after bill passed away just absolutely

00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:59.579
saved news line, oh, with the exception of Paul

00:49:59.579 --> 00:50:05.219
Brown. But. No, well, you know. But. Yeah. To

00:50:05.219 --> 00:50:09.239
that, to that, to that end, a lot of the people

00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:10.920
that did, you know, step up, raise their hand

00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:13.420
and say, hey, can I be part of it? Several of

00:50:13.420 --> 00:50:16.559
them, like you and I, had broadcast radio careers

00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:20.699
or television careers and were licensed hams.

00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:24.340
And what what wound up doing, you know, when

00:50:24.340 --> 00:50:26.619
Bill wrote the scripts, they were very anchor.

00:50:26.829 --> 00:50:29.670
centric that anchor did carried the most of the

00:50:29.670 --> 00:50:31.889
heavy lifting of reading the stories and we'd

00:50:31.889 --> 00:50:34.789
have a few What we would call in the business

00:50:34.789 --> 00:50:38.110
actualities or reports from other voices mixed

00:50:38.110 --> 00:50:41.070
in from time to time But but Karen Ede Murray

00:50:41.070 --> 00:50:43.090
took over and you and I kind of started working

00:50:43.090 --> 00:50:45.570
with her and and working on the newscast itself

00:50:46.670 --> 00:50:49.349
we started to realize hey we've got a lot of

00:50:49.349 --> 00:50:51.449
voices out there and not just here in the US

00:50:51.449 --> 00:50:54.090
but around the world let's utilize them let's

00:50:54.090 --> 00:50:56.670
truly make this sound like from around the world

00:50:56.670 --> 00:51:00.289
which is the opening line of the of the newscast

00:51:00.289 --> 00:51:03.150
it truly does over the last you know however

00:51:03.150 --> 00:51:04.570
many years we've been doing this now without

00:51:04.570 --> 00:51:07.429
Bill it truly does sound like it's coming in

00:51:07.429 --> 00:51:09.429
from around the world and I think that is just

00:51:09.429 --> 00:51:14.119
the coolest thing And you know, Bill always patterned

00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:17.820
after spot radio news. That was how he patterned

00:51:17.820 --> 00:51:20.559
Newsline and everything else. And I think now

00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:24.019
it's more like 60 minutes where the story is

00:51:24.019 --> 00:51:27.800
the main thing and you have an anchor or whatever

00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:30.960
who just introduces the story and it's actually

00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:34.760
the story and the actuality that makes it. And

00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:38.179
so I think the flow is really good. I like how

00:51:38.179 --> 00:51:41.010
Newsline has changed, I really do. Yeah, and

00:51:41.010 --> 00:51:44.610
speaking of 60 minutes or something Yeah, yeah,

00:51:44.610 --> 00:51:48.969
I know we're way we're already over time so Skeeter

00:51:48.969 --> 00:51:54.010
It's great to hear from you, but but we're gonna

00:51:54.010 --> 00:51:56.510
have to move it along here We got a couple of

00:51:56.510 --> 00:51:58.449
other things we're gonna do real quick here before

00:51:58.449 --> 00:52:01.789
we sign off so seven three everybody seven three

00:52:01.789 --> 00:52:04.489
Seven three Skeeter. Take care. Be careful out

00:52:04.489 --> 00:52:09.760
there Another good one. Bye bye. Yep. Yep. Absolutely

00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:13.380
All right. Well wish we had time to to take more

00:52:13.380 --> 00:52:16.920
open and here's another call coming in I wish

00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:20.059
we had time to to take some more calls, but we're

00:52:20.059 --> 00:52:26.019
already over our 45 minutes here, so I did say

00:52:26.019 --> 00:52:28.860
one thing I had like two or three other things

00:52:28.860 --> 00:52:31.639
we were going to talk about but as usual throw

00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:37.489
the script out the window, but Just have you

00:52:37.489 --> 00:52:40.789
mentioned a couple of minutes here on the young

00:52:40.789 --> 00:52:43.610
ham of the year award ceremony that that kind

00:52:43.610 --> 00:52:47.530
of Changed due to kovat and yeah, and so so so

00:52:47.530 --> 00:52:49.849
tell us a little bit about how that went and

00:52:49.849 --> 00:52:53.829
and then we'll Read some comments and sign off

00:52:53.829 --> 00:52:57.590
Well, I thought it went well. I was like how

00:52:57.590 --> 00:52:59.969
can we do this since the board the young ham

00:52:59.969 --> 00:53:03.349
of the year? Awards committee decided not to

00:53:03.349 --> 00:53:07.280
do it live at Huntsville which I did not agree

00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:09.679
with it first, but it actually yeah, you know

00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:12.280
it turned out to be it's and that was before

00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:15.619
the Delta variant really hit and then when that

00:53:15.619 --> 00:53:18.480
really got cranked up and You know, yeah, it

00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:20.300
was it was the right decision. It really was

00:53:20.300 --> 00:53:23.760
and they're much brighter people than I am or

00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:29.340
I'll ever be but We we took it over to Tom Medlin's

00:53:29.340 --> 00:53:32.119
Platform and he jumped at it. I figured that

00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:35.429
would be the easiest way to do it Tom's been

00:53:35.429 --> 00:53:38.170
a big friend of the amateur radio news line and

00:53:38.170 --> 00:53:41.369
always broadcast live from Huntsville, the Youngham

00:53:41.369 --> 00:53:43.230
of the Year Award. And so we did it there. We

00:53:43.230 --> 00:53:46.369
did it live on Tom Mellon's amateur radio roundtable

00:53:46.369 --> 00:53:50.389
and it just went really well. And I want to thank

00:53:50.389 --> 00:53:53.570
Tom again for giving us the platform and the

00:53:53.570 --> 00:53:57.570
time and the production value there to do that.

00:53:57.949 --> 00:54:02.400
But I cannot wait. to get back to a ham fest.

00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:05.260
It's been almost two years. It'll be two years

00:54:05.260 --> 00:54:07.000
in January that I've been to a ham fest. And

00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:11.400
I missed last week's show where you had the two

00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:17.179
Michaels and Mark from Dayton, from Orlando,

00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:19.000
and from Huntsville. I've got to go back and

00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:23.840
listen to that. I've met Michael Colley. I've

00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:27.360
not been to the Orlando hamcation. Michael Coulter,

00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:29.159
I think, is the greatest guy in the world, and

00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:32.039
I absolutely love Mark Brown. He's a huge, huge

00:54:32.039 --> 00:54:35.320
friend of Amateur Radio Newsline and helps us

00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:38.380
out tremendously with our presentation at the

00:54:38.380 --> 00:54:42.599
Huntsville Hamfest. So I want to thank Mark for

00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:45.139
everything that he's done for us, and we're going

00:54:45.139 --> 00:54:48.940
to call Huntsville home for as long as they'll

00:54:48.940 --> 00:54:52.389
have us. so uh... uh... i can't wait to go back

00:54:52.389 --> 00:54:54.670
and listen to that episode but yeah i can't wait

00:54:54.670 --> 00:54:56.730
to get back to him as that's where that's where

00:54:56.730 --> 00:54:58.510
this award needs to be presented as in front

00:54:58.510 --> 00:55:03.429
of people uh... i'm i'm i'm ready as well so

00:55:03.429 --> 00:55:06.429
all right well uh... let let's run down a few

00:55:06.429 --> 00:55:09.889
of the uh... The typers here, let's make sure

00:55:09.889 --> 00:55:13.750
we get them in. Uh, Troy W9KVR says, uh, just

00:55:13.750 --> 00:55:17.389
rolled in from, uh, from a park, put 16 in the

00:55:17.389 --> 00:55:20.710
log is W9GRS slash nine, which reminds me it's

00:55:20.710 --> 00:55:24.710
nice school club roundup week. So, um, that's

00:55:24.710 --> 00:55:28.110
going to end tomorrow. So if you haven't been

00:55:28.110 --> 00:55:31.590
on to talk to the kids, uh, and a lot of schools

00:55:31.590 --> 00:55:34.590
are not on because of COVID, but there are several

00:55:34.590 --> 00:55:40.360
that are on. So, uh, give them a. call and see

00:55:40.360 --> 00:55:45.739
how they're doing. Chris A4CB says hello everyone

00:55:45.739 --> 00:55:52.639
and Troy says missed K9SOU being around. Not

00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:59.440
at K9SOU this year. Kind of sad not to have them

00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:03.539
on, but COVID's kind of stopping that process.

00:56:04.300 --> 00:56:09.780
So hopefully they can get back on the air. And

00:56:09.780 --> 00:56:12.699
Askins says, the request line is hot tonight.

00:56:12.780 --> 00:56:15.280
Tried to call, but the screen kept telling him,

00:56:15.539 --> 00:56:20.280
no, not you. So that must have been the issue.

00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:24.179
We need to get Mike on sometime. Yeah, we do.

00:56:24.619 --> 00:56:26.519
We need to we could just do a whole show about

00:56:26.519 --> 00:56:28.000
amateur radio news line and have the anchor,

00:56:28.179 --> 00:56:30.179
you know, have our have the voice as a news line.

00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:31.739
I think that'd be a great idea. We have to do

00:56:31.739 --> 00:56:35.820
that sometime. Yeah, sounds like a plan. Well,

00:56:35.820 --> 00:56:37.880
we had some other things that we can talk about,

00:56:37.880 --> 00:56:40.340
but we'll just have to talk about them later.

00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:44.800
So I'm not going to keep everybody here too much

00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:49.380
longer. So thanks, Don, for coming on and we'll

00:56:49.380 --> 00:56:52.610
talk again soon. Well, I'm glad you hit I'm glad

00:56:52.610 --> 00:56:54.869
I'm glad that I was able to come on and that

00:56:54.869 --> 00:56:58.670
yeah you You're misfortune of not having a guest

00:56:58.670 --> 00:57:00.289
turned out to be a really good thing. So I'm

00:57:00.289 --> 00:57:03.329
glad that I'm glad I was your I'm glad I was

00:57:03.329 --> 00:57:06.110
your last chance to go to and it turned out good.

00:57:06.389 --> 00:57:12.269
So Thank you, sir. I appreciate that All right,

00:57:12.409 --> 00:57:16.139
Don well, thanks so much that is a wrap for this

00:57:16.139 --> 00:57:19.000
week's edition of HamTalk Live. Thanks to John

00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:22.019
Wilbanks, AE5DW, and everybody out there at Cyberspace

00:57:22.019 --> 00:57:25.420
for listening and calling in and typing in. And

00:57:25.420 --> 00:57:28.219
come back next Thursday night, 9 p .m. Eastern

00:57:28.219 --> 00:57:31.619
time, for a list of our upcoming guests, go to

00:57:31.619 --> 00:57:35.719
hamtalklive .com. So for now, this is Neil Rapp,

00:57:35.900 --> 00:57:41.199
WB9VPG, saying 7 -3, 7 -5, and may the good DX

00:57:41.199 --> 00:57:54.079
be yours. Well you came right back to my CQ call

00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:59.380
Your Readability 5 and Strength 9 You never once

00:57:59.380 --> 00:58:01.400
mentioned your weather at all
