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Hello everyone, it's time for HamTalk Live episode
number 289, the Voice of America 80th anniversary
special event. I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG.
Thanks for tuning in to this episode of HamTalk
Live. We're doing this on February 17th, 2022.
And we're joined by Jocelyn KD8VRX, Mark K3POE,
and Peter. in for PVH in just a short while.
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3 .30 PM Eastern time. So we're going to talk
about this special event tonight and one of the
places that you can find a lot of information
about this special event is on the QRZ pages
of the the call sign. So there's W3V, Whiskey
3 Victor, Whiskey 8 Oscar And Whiskey 4 Alpha
are the three special event calls that will be
on the air this weekend. And so check out their
QRZ pages and you can see some links to some
of the things that we're going to talk about
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Jocelyn KD8VRX, Mark K3POE, and Peter N4PVH join
us on the Orlando Amateur Radio Club and hamcation
Zoom line. Jocelyn Bro KD8VRX is the past president
of the Westchester Amateur Radio Association,
WCHVOA, located at the Voice of America Bethany
Relay Station in Northern Cincinnati and Jocelyn
organizes many special events and contest entries
at the Voice of America Museum of Broadcasting
located on the original VOA site. Mark Poe, K3POE
is one of the Voice of America's RF engineers
based in Washington DC. And Mark got licensed
because of the other engineers at the VOA and
their influence. And then we also have with us
tonight, Peter Van Houten. in for PVH. He is
the president of the Brightleaf Amateur Radio
Club in Greenville, North Carolina, and is spearheading
a restoration of the Voice of America site there
into a ham radio superstation. So Jocelyn, Mark
and Peter, welcome to Ham Talk Live. Good evening,
Neil. Good evening. Good evening, Neil. It's
an honor. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Well, we
have this special event coming up this weekend
and So we want to make sure everybody knows about
it and what's taking place here. So Let's start
off with talking about the call signs that are
involved and and the dates and times and locations
here for this special event So, let's see Peter
you want to take that one? Sure So we all got
together and decided to get some one -by -one
calls and the suffix of them spell out VOA. So
in Washington DC, we will have W3V and in Westchester,
Ohio, we will have WHO and in Greenville, North
Carolina, we will have W4Alpha and We'll be operating
somewhere around 10 o 'clock in the morning until
about 8 p .m. Obviously, operators can go longer
if they so desire. And the bands that we've been
looking to start with is 20 meters, 40 meters,
80 with single sideband CW and FTA. Okay, very
good. So that's 10 to 8 Eastern time here in
the US and It will be on the air from those three
call signs at those three different locations
Okay, so Jocelyn what bands and modes are going
to be active and What about the spotting or some
of the stations gonna be spotted so we can find
you all that way? Yeah, absolutely I'll answer
your questions, or I'll repeat a little bit what
Peter said. So yeah, we're looking from 20 to
80. If 10 and 15 meters are open, we're going
to try those bands, but we're going to go with
the good old 10, 40, 80, which usually works.
As Peter said, we're doing a sideband, FT8. We're
going to try to do CW. I'm what we are aware
that the AWRL DX CW contest is also this weekend.
If the bands are too crowded, we may switch to
a non -CW. a contesting band like 12 or 17 meters.
As far as spotting, yeah, we had a quick intro
of DX Heat. I know that not everybody is familiar
with it, but I think everybody likes it. So we're
gonna be spotting ourselves and we encourage
people that hear us on the air to, you know,
re -spot us just to make sure we're easy to find
for everybody. All right, very good. Okay, and
I'm sure you have QSL cards available for everybody
who works the station. So let's hear about those
and where people should send those and all those
details. So let's go to Mark on that one. So
each station in the W3V W8O and W4A will have
their own EQSL card that will be sent out within
a few days after the contest is over, once we
process all the logs and all the AIIDF files
and so on and so forth. And then those who submit
a SASC will get a paper card and there will also
be a certificate. And our certificate will have
written on the back which stations they contacted
on which mode and at what time and all that would
be filled out and it'll be it'll be double -sided
obviously and it'll have you correct me if I'm
wrong just let me that the certificate will have
the a picture of the wlo transmitter on the on
one side is that correct that's the that's the
qsl card yeah the certificate is just the pdf
that will be emailed to the qrz email address
of the recipient. So if you make contact with
us, make sure your QRZ email address is up to
date because that's what we will be using to
send out the certificate and the digital QSL
cards. with all the information. The certificate,
we were lucky enough to have Lou N02C and Sally
K2RYD helping us out with generating those certificates
for us and emailing those out to all the people
that make contact. You only need to make a contact
to get either the certificate, the QSL or the
electronic QSL, digital QSL card. or the SASC.
Obviously, you should shoot for the clean sweep.
You will have a clean sweep endorsement on the
certificate. But yeah, so one contact, doesn't
matter what mode, gets you possibly three awards.
All right. Thank you. So Mark, you're a current
employee of Voice of America as the RF engineer.
Let's talk a little bit about the 80th anniversary
here and what that means to you and the staff
at VOA. It is really a milestone to still be
in existence after 80 years. We started at the
end of World War II to combat Nazi propaganda
with the truth. And from the very beginning,
even in those early first broadcasts, it was
said that whether the good sorry, whether the
news would be good or bad, we would we would
tell you the truth. And a lot of times, the news
was bad. And it was it was negative. You know,
when the allies were losing, it really didn't
look good. But it was it's it made us credible.
to have to share that with the world and to not
try and try to hide it like like the Nazis did
and later the with the Russians that everything's
copacetic everything's great you know there's
the uh harvests are plentiful don't question
if you're and you know we were have have been
and remain a um a the voice of America and we
were we are intended to represent not just a
view but the but a comprehensive view of significant
quote, significant American thought to paraphrase
our charter. And ever, ever since then, you know,
we haven't shied away to going, going forward.
You know, now, you know, we're, we're in the
21st century and VOA has, has been a pioneer
in a lot of areas, including being the first
broadcaster to distribute programming on the
internet in 1994, using a gopher which I guess
you would call a browser back a long long long
ago and then for audio files it had an ftp site
that you had to download them very very slowly
um yeah but it's it existed and yeah so The VOA
has decommissioned these two sites that are going
to be in the special event in Westchester, Ohio
and in Greenville. But the VOA is still operating.
And again, you're one of the people in charge
of making sure that RF is still going where it's
supposed to go. So where is VOA right now? And
what are the target audiences for the RF? side
of things and then of course it's you know worldwide
with streaming i would assume target audience
is that that's uh i can just say there we are
broadcasting in 40 40 different languages at
the moment the every everything from weger to
tigray to swahili tibetan and spanish some english
there's the learning the special english broadcast
is still is still on the air and there have been
many people who who visited Jocelyn's museum
who who said that you know they learned to speak
English from uh the voice of America and that
is just one of the many languages English is
just one of the many languages although we uh
the standard English broadcasts as like the BBC
might have are they have kind of taken a back
seat to other More important, um, targets, I
guess you would say, but I'm not, I'm not here
as a representative of the voice of America.
I can only state what's, you know, what's public
knowledge. And, um, I guess that's, uh, I guess
that's, uh, did that answer your question? Tell
me a little more about the RF. Let's, you know,
just like, like you said, you're not a representative
necessarily in this. uh wearing this hat tonight
but but you know what bands what bands what uh
you know what are some of the transmitters that
are currently running and antennas those kinds
of things oh wow um we have oh running down through
the sites we have there is greenville obviously
site a there's in marathon we have the Largest
AM station in the country broadcasts out of Marathon
Quay towards Cuba. We have Sao Tomei. There's
Botswana. We have two stations in Germany. There's
Kuwait. There's Philippines, Thailand. There
are two in the Marianas at Saipan and Tinian.
There's a megawatt. We have a megawatt. AM station
in Thailand as well. The coolest antenna we have
is in Kuwait. It's a rotatable 2x2 curtain that
spins like on a shaft and I can't hit anywhere
from Europe all the way to China from that antenna.
I'll say that most of the sites These days use
curtains, usually sluable curtains. The transmitters
are predominantly 250 kilowatts. There are some
that are 50 kilowatts backup transmitters. For
a while, we were using one of these 50 kilowatts
to run a DRM program out of Greenville Transmitting
Station there. Greenville and that has since
ceased, but we maintain the capability to broadcast
DRM in the future. Personally, I would like to
see some of that come back, but that's neither
here nor there at the moment. The Greenville
station still maintains many Romic antennas.
Whether they're using them or not, I can't speak
about, but They are pretty impressive when you
see just the amount of steel that went into building
these things. And in one of my jobs, we were
dismantling antennas and moving things around
and moving transmitters around. And, you know,
you really learn to respect how well these things
were built. And, you know, I am younger than
most of the transmitters in our system. I don't
think we bought. I think the last shortwave transmitter
we bought was in the 80s. Wow. And I know that
the last medium wave we bought was in 2004, which
was a 800 ,000 water for Central Asia. And I
can say that because I did the factory acceptance
test for it in France. It's a Talos transmitter.
But as far as The majority of our transmitters
are continental. There are some Marconi as in
a short wave side. We have, I know Harris, there
are a few Harris DX series AM transmitters. There
are some Marconi medium wave transmitters. I'm
not sure what the megawatt is in Thailand. but
that's impressive, regardless. A lot of the AAMs
have gone by the wayside. We had one in Cyprus
and it's off the air. We closed a shortwave station
in Sri Lanka within the past six years, seven
years. Site A in Greenville was closed, but yeah,
that's what remains to be seen. It seems like
every time they talk about cutting back programming
and cutting languages or, you know, defund, you
know, the sun setting of shortwave, there's some
disaster that happened, some crisis that, you
know, they immediately, someone wants to know
how do we get into this region that is landlocked
mentally, you know, there's no there's no free
flow of information of or into or about a certain
region and it falls back on the short way. It
falls back on this quote antiquated technology.
Yeah, I never thought of that, but you know,
with so much of the internet, you know, being,
you know, cut off and filtered by certain countries,
that would be one way you could get around that.
Mark, how many listeners did you have here recently?
We have 310 million audience, up from 280 in
2020. So the audience is growing still. It's
some pretty cool stuff. When I went to the museum
the first time in Westchester and heard about
the the special English thing that really caught
my attention that, you know, by using basic English
words, you could, you could actually, you know,
teach people English over, over a radio. And,
um, it was just fascinating, um, you know, the,
the progress that that made teaching people and,
and so that they can listen to, you know, the
newscasts and know, you know, what the true happenings
are in their world. Did I answer your questions
officially there? Is that? Yeah, that's good.
That's good. I will admit, my favorite antenna
in the network is in Djibouti. It's one of the
medium waves I forgot to mention. We have one
site next to a short wave site run by the government
of Djibouti. One of my first jobs was to model
a log periodic antenna, very similar to the one
that they have at WRNO, the Rock of New Orleans.
And I was given a paper size C drawing. This
is like two feet by three feet in French. And
the drawing was only the it was wire lengths.
There's wire links and I had and it had like
a few notations on angle like pitch angle and
and rib angle and cage you know wire diameter
and insulator size. I had to like model all this
in neck to try to figure out whether doubling
the power would make would cause corona on the
insulators. And I just like I had literally had,
this is before Google Translate, I literally
had a French to English dictionary out trying
to understand what all this stuff was. I had
never done log periodic antennas, sort of new
TV antennas, but anyway, long story short, the
model predicted that there would be no corona.
We doubled the power and the Djibouti government
was very happy. Well, there you go. Can't ask
for much better than that. Alright, well we're
going to take a break here and when we come back
we're going to talk a little bit more about some
of the history of VOA and a little bit more with
the special event when we come back with Jocelyn,
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right well let's get back to the guys here talking
about the eightieth anniversary of the voice
of america special event All right, welcome back.
We're here with Jocelyn Bro, KD8VRX and Mark
K3POE and Peter N4PVH. They are the people behind
the 80th anniversary of the Voice of America
special event coming up this weekend. And I want
to go to Peter here for a little bit. Peter,
talk about what's going on at the Greenville
site and trying to build this the Superstation
down there. Tell us what's going on. Yeah, just
as a brief intro to the Greenville sites, we
had, I think back in the 1963, was it? JFK went
and commissioned the VOA site in Greenville and
they made A and B. They had three of them, A,
B and C. A and B were identical all the way down
to the water coolers. And eventually A got decommissioned,
budget cuts or whatever. And B currently is very
much up and running and broadcasting to South
America. Site C was more of a relay station and
a listening post than it was anything else. And
so it wasn't really designed to have the huge
transmitters that A or B had. So C got decommissioned
in the 90s. And so, our brightly -famature radio
club has been going out there ever since then
and hooking up, you know, a ladder line to these
things and blasting our signal all over the world
with about 20 to 23 dB gain. on these rhombic
antennas. So there used to be 23 rhombic antennas
and a bunch of them got carted off to other places,
but we have four of them left in the major directions.
They're typically about a little less than, the
towers are a little less than 200 feet and they
have, so diamond shaped, the rhombic shape, and
they have typically three wires going from the
apex to the side antenna. tower and then back
to the apex again. So it makes them rather broad
-banded. And then, so these towers have been
up since, well, since 63. And we actually managed
to have a little test where the Navy did a rim
pack exercise all the way out in Hawaii. And
one of our members went out with a small antenna
and radio. And they set up there in the one of
the dormant volcanoes. And what they really were
trying to do is to see if they could have an
emergency hospital set up and sort of if there
was a big disaster, how the Navy help out. And
so they all set up their tents and everybody
got ready to communicate all over the world.
and our little bright leaf club of 69 members,
one of them was out there. And within one day,
he was on the air and communicating all the way
back to these antennas at the Greenville site.
It was called Project Strong Angel. And so the
next transmission didn't occur for three days
later. So the amateur radio boys, we got it done.
So just to prove that we could do stuff in an
emergency. But those antennas were very critical
to be able to make the distance all the way to
Hawaii. And they did. So obviously, our one guy
out there with a small antenna on a pole wasn't
exactly broadcasting a whole lot of power. but
he established communications and had a wonderful
link that way. So we've realized the emergency
use of these antennas has been, you know, it's
one of those things you wish they were up all
the time. So we kept putting up temporary feed
lines and they kept getting torn down. So finally
after, you know, two years of COVID, we couldn't
get there. Everything had been torn down. And
so, you know, one question after another and
starting to get involved into this project you
know I kind of realized hey why don't we put
out some permanent feed lines and my co -hosts
here kind of suggested a bunch of things and
this thing this project just started to spin
itself up spool itself up into full gear so as
it stands now we have two log periodic antennas
that are steerable and on 96 foot towers and
then we have the four rhombics and we'd love
to have all of them come back into the ham shack
and then we've been working on a station design
looking at all kinds of SDR radios and so that
could possibly be controlled remotely and looking
at a software called Node -RED to automate all
of this. And this has been done by several other
people already. So it's not like we're inventing
something new, but with a browser, any browser
on any machine could come in and with the right
credentials run the station. We have fiber optic
internet coming into the station and we're going
to have four drops right into the room. So we
have internet out the yin yang. Then we have
a generator for the entire building so whenever
the power goes out we're still going to be on
the air and we also have a tower outside that
we could put either a mesh network or a repeater
or some other kind of a thing and oh one extra
thing we have a 30 -foot satellite dish if we
could do something with if somebody could figure
out how to make it work so We have a whole bunch
of old parts that we're trying to spin up into
a Superstation if I can get the funding and we're
looking into you know Go fund me and in grants
and whatever I can find to to do this But so
we're we're actively in the planning stages right
now. So Sounds like a fabulous Set up and you
know that one of the things that you know kind
of disappointed me at Bethany is you know the
antennas are all gone. And you know, the matching
network is still out there, but in the, in the
tower bases out in the park, but the antennas
are gone and y 'all were lucky enough to hang
on to at least four of the, uh, the rhombics.
And so, yeah, I can't, I can't imagine being
able to, to hook up to those. So I hope, uh,
hope that project comes to fruition. Yeah. So
if any of your people want to see what we're
talking about, The internet site W4AMC .com has
a link that shows the project and where it stands
and what we're doing. So that's easy. You know,
if people are interested, they can go hit it
and see, all right, what are they doing now?
So. Yep, very good. Well, let's go over to Jocelyn
again up in Westchester and just kind of. talk
a little bit more about the special event before
we sign off tonight about the certificates and
QSL information. Just kind of recap everything
for us so people can work this special event
this weekend. Yeah, happy to do so Neil. So as
we mentioned there'll be three stations on the
air whiskey 3v from the DC area whiskey 8 Oscar
obviously from VOA Bethany and whiskey 4 alpha
from the Greenville site and We'll be on again
2280 for sure if 10 and 15 are open. We're gonna
try to get on those band look for us on sideband
There'll be some fd8 stations running And we
will also try to get some CWN. As I mentioned
before, the ARRL contest is going on. So we won't
be able to, you know, we'll see what we can do
there on the bands. And if you make a contact
with anybody or any of the stations, I should
say, you'll be able to get the certificate that
will be emailed to your QRZ address within two
weeks, I believe is what Lou said. The digital
QSL card will be emailed to your QRZ email address
as well, and that will take about a day or so
for us to process that. And then if you send
an SASC to the QSL information that's on the
QRZ page, you'll be able to get the... card,
the paper card as well. And now it'll take a
little longer, obviously, to sort everything
out. But those are the things we have. And we've
already got some offerings lined up for us to
work while the museum will be operating. I want
to remind the listeners that the VOA Museum and
Broadcasting is open on the weekends in the afternoon.
And during Hampvention, if you're coming for
Hampvention, we always have extended hours. It
will start Thursday and will end Sunday. during
from Thursday to Saturday will be 1 p .m. to
9 p .m. and then on Sunday it will be 12 p .m.
to 5 p .m. okay so I'm sure we'll be talking
about that again before Hamvention but that's
a little preview here to put that thought in
people's minds that if you're coming to Hamvention,
you haven't seen one of these VOA sites, this
is a great one to come check out. And there's
just a ton of work's been done to make it very
accessible and friendly to people going around
looking at all this. You know all this vintage
equipment and So it's a must -see so we'll talk
about that more. I'm sure as we get closer to
Hamvention, but Every year when I go to Hamvention
take a bunch of people down to the museum and
do a tour and You know always see something different
every time I walk into the place. There's something
different so Jocelyn, what else do you have for
us? I just forgot to mention one thing, which
is if you go on a different weekend that's not
Hamvention, let the person at the front desk
know you are a Ham. Uh, we understand you want
probably a more technical tour and we'll try
to get you a docent that has more, uh, understands
a little bit more of the tactical background,
uh, versus just getting the general public tour,
which is still fabulous. Uh, but you, you get
a little bit more insight on some of the stuff.
So I just, uh, wanted to mention that. Yeah.
And you know, and they, you'll probably get the
Drake collection on top of everything. where
everybody else might be going what's that uh
so all right very good well uh i think we're
we're about finished here so let me let me just
kind of go around everybody uh any final comments
or anything that we've left out uh let's go to
mark first i would like to mention one thing
that's uh as we were talking about the uh the
voa museum there in ohio they have the first
transmitter that was used to broadcast the first
program from the Voice of America overseas, the
WLWO. Right, Brightoslan? Yep, yeah, absolutely
right. And that was a, I'll call it a barn find.
As some of you may know, WLW down the road from
the VOA Museum is the land is being redeveloped,
so to speak. There'll be a little commercial
center near the tower. It's going to be interesting.
But as they were tearing down some stuff and
moving stuff, one of the, actually, Lee, which
is the museum curator, asked if he could look
around and ask what's in the back shed. Oh, just
a bunch of nothing. And he started looking at
it and then opened a couple of doors. And then
he knew exactly what he was looking at and salvaged
it, the parts that could be salvaged and brought
back to the museum and is now on display. So
we're very fortunate. that we were able to save
it and bring it back. So thank you, Mark, for
bringing that up. I've forgotten to mention,
yes, before VOA, the Bethany station was fully
operational. The way to get the message back
to Europe was with the WLWO over overseas. transmitter
out of Mason that would basically beam it back
to the United Kingdom and then the BBC would
take it from shortwave and rebroadcast over longwave
and mediumwave for the German public to hear.
All right, anything else, Mark? Well, one of
the QSL cards will have a picture of the transmitter
on it. Well, very good. In case you're interested
in that. As well there, and Joss Linz will have
an image of the massive log periodic there at
Site C. For all those interested in antennas
and RF side of things. I know from my point of
view, this whole episode has brought up an old
memory and I was a young kid in 1963 in Germany.
And after the assassination of President Kennedy,
we tuned into the Voice of America to find out
what the truth was, rather than whatever was
being spoken at the time. So we moved quite frequently,
about every two years, international business
is what my father was doing. And for us, for
me and our family, it was very, very important
to really understand what was going on so you
could make the proper decisions about. what was
happening. So the service has been an incredible
influence to world events and trying to being
an equalizer in the playing field. So I'm very
honored to be able to do this. All right, Peter.
Well, thank you so much for being here. And Mark
and Jocelyn, appreciate all your work and getting
this special event going. chance to remember
back 80 years ago when when that transmitter
first came on the air and was operational. So
thank you all for being here tonight and we look
forward to hearing you on the air this weekend.
Yep, look it sounds fantastic. We're looking
for a lot of people calling us. Help us spot
and keep us keep us busy. That's what we're there
for. Thank you, Neil. Thank you, Neil. You're
most welcome. Appreciate it. You're most welcome.
All right. Well, that is a wrap for this edition
of HamTalk Live. I'd like to thank my guests
Jocelyn KD8VRX and Mark N3 or K3POE rather and
Peter N4PVH and everybody out there in cyberspace
for listening and invite you back next week when
Mark Smith N6MTS will be here to talk about SOAR,
that's Satellite Optimized Amateur Radio. And
for a list of all of our upcoming guests, visit
HamTalkLive .com. So for now, this is Neil Rapp,
WB9VPG, saying seven three, seven five, and may
the good DX be yours. Well you came right back
to my secure core Your readability five and strength
nine You never once mentioned your weather at
all And I didn't mention mine We talked and talked
for hours and hours I completely forgot you're
a ham I don't know your power or the height of
your tower But frankly I don't give a damn So
73, to you and your family, I'll be seeing you
further down the line. So 73, to you and your
family, I'll be seeing you further down the line.