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Thanks for tuning 00:01:19.950 --> 00:01:23.159 in to this episode. of HamTalk Live. Tonight 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:28.299 we're joined by Lee Hite, K8 CLI, the lead docent 00:01:28.299 --> 00:01:30.920 at the Voice of America Museum of Broadcasting 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:34.400 in Westchester, Ohio. And we'll be talking about 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:38.019 their open house and some of the new features 00:01:38.019 --> 00:01:41.510 of the museum tonight. Last episode, Michael 00:01:41.510 --> 00:01:44.310 Coulter, W8CI, was here to talk about all the 00:01:44.310 --> 00:01:46.969 plans for this year's Hamvention. And if you 00:01:46.969 --> 00:01:50.150 missed that show, you can listen anytime at HamTalkLive 00:01:50.150 --> 00:01:55.170 .com or on your favorite podcast app or on YouTube. 00:01:55.730 --> 00:01:59.849 Or you can catch the rebroadcast of HamTalk Live 00:01:59.849 --> 00:02:06.790 over on shortwave WTWW. 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Do we sell PL259 connectors? 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:57.939 The Tower Electronics HamFest schedule will be 00:03:57.939 --> 00:04:01.699 in Cedarburg, Wisconsin on April 30th and Sandwich, 00:04:01.699 --> 00:04:05.419 Illinois on May 1st, but you can visit them anytime, 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:11.439 anywhere at PL -259 .com. All the information 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:14.460 you need for your trip to Dayton. It's HamVention 00:04:14.460 --> 00:04:37.420 Preview here on HamTalk Live. Welcome back to 00:04:37.420 --> 00:04:43.019 HamTalk Live tonight. Lee Hite, K8CLI, joins 00:04:43.019 --> 00:04:45.899 us on the Orlando Amateur Radio Club and Hamcation 00:04:45.899 --> 00:04:50.360 Zoom line. Lee is the Lee Dossett and a board 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:52.939 member of the National Voice of America Museum 00:04:52.939 --> 00:04:56.779 of Broadcasting in Westchester, suburban Cincinnati, 00:04:57.000 --> 00:05:00.660 Ohio. Lee is a retired electronics engineer with 00:05:00.660 --> 00:05:03.480 a passion for investigating technical issues. 00:05:03.870 --> 00:05:06.829 occasionally surrounded with mystery and often 00:05:06.829 --> 00:05:10.670 bridging several fields of technology. He was 00:05:10.670 --> 00:05:15.269 first licensed back in 1954 and is active with 00:05:15.269 --> 00:05:19.430 the Mason, Ohio and Warren County cert teams. 00:05:21.129 --> 00:05:24.750 And as a side, he also engineers wind chimes 00:05:24.750 --> 00:05:29.490 and biomass briquettes. So Lee, welcome back 00:05:29.490 --> 00:05:32.680 to HamTalk Live. Well, thank you, Neil. Happy 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:35.540 to be back on HamTalk Live and looking forward 00:05:35.540 --> 00:05:39.680 to the program. Well, Hamvention is back and 00:05:39.680 --> 00:05:42.860 Michael Coulter was here last week to talk about, 00:05:42.860 --> 00:05:46.379 you know, the reunion that's going to take place 00:05:46.379 --> 00:05:49.660 at Hamvention. That's their theme this year and 00:05:49.660 --> 00:05:54.209 so everything is back and so is The Voice of 00:05:54.209 --> 00:05:58.250 America Museum. So each year I know the museum 00:05:58.250 --> 00:06:02.829 hosts a special open house. So hams that are 00:06:02.829 --> 00:06:06.470 coming to Hamvention have a chance to come by 00:06:06.470 --> 00:06:10.529 the museum and get a more technical tour. So 00:06:10.529 --> 00:06:14.930 tell us about the plans for this year. Well we 00:06:14.930 --> 00:06:17.350 are all excited. We have a lot of new things 00:06:17.350 --> 00:06:21.829 in the museum. The museum will have special hours 00:06:21.829 --> 00:06:25.019 for opening. We will be open Friday Saturday 00:06:25.019 --> 00:06:30.379 and Sunday Friday and Saturday 1 p .m. To 9 p 00:06:30.379 --> 00:06:32.920 .m. For both Friday and Saturday of hamvention 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:36.100 then on Sunday We will be open from 1 p .m. To 00:06:36.100 --> 00:06:40.560 5 p .m. So you can stop down during hamvention 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:44.300 or on your way home Maybe on Sunday stop by we 00:06:44.300 --> 00:06:46.839 remain open till 5 p .m. We have quite a few 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:51.779 people stop by on the way home out of Xenia So 00:06:51.779 --> 00:06:55.980 we're all excited. There's been a lot of improvements 00:06:55.980 --> 00:07:01.040 at the museum. For those that have not been to 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:03.500 the museum or are looking forward to attending, 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:08.360 we have the 250 ,000 watt Collins transmitter 00:07:08.360 --> 00:07:13.560 opened up and available to be viewed. We've got 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:16.980 it all cleaned up, it's lit up, and you can walk 00:07:16.980 --> 00:07:21.920 through the whole RF section, the modulator section, 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:26.100 and see what 250 ,000 watt transmitter looks 00:07:26.100 --> 00:07:29.660 like from the inside out. It's quite a sight 00:07:29.660 --> 00:07:34.720 to see how this was actually done that ran all 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:37.319 day long. They ran two 12 -hour shifts. Now, 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:40.639 each transmitter did not run 24 hours a day, 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:44.680 but we had six of them. We've saved one. And 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:48.649 they ran a lot, produced a lot of heat. I will 00:07:48.649 --> 00:07:50.490 be there most of the time. There are a couple 00:07:50.490 --> 00:07:52.529 other docents that will be there. We can give 00:07:52.529 --> 00:07:57.529 you a technical tour of the transmitter. So that's 00:07:57.529 --> 00:08:01.730 exciting to see that. We have the original control 00:08:01.730 --> 00:08:04.730 room, and we can talk about all the processing 00:08:04.730 --> 00:08:07.589 of the audio and how the control room actually 00:08:07.589 --> 00:08:11.170 functioned. And then out back, and you're certainly 00:08:11.170 --> 00:08:14.889 willing to walk to the back of the property, 00:08:14.970 --> 00:08:17.589 back of the building, We saved the antenna switch. 00:08:17.790 --> 00:08:21.110 Now, the antenna switch is huge. It's a 6 by 00:08:21.110 --> 00:08:25.129 22 crossbar scanner switch that's all manually 00:08:25.129 --> 00:08:28.449 operated. There's 152 double pull, double throw 00:08:28.449 --> 00:08:33.370 switches, all done by hand on a pole. And you 00:08:33.370 --> 00:08:37.110 could take into the switch six high -power transmitters 00:08:37.110 --> 00:08:41.289 and push out to any transmitter to any of 22 00:08:41.289 --> 00:08:44.549 different antennas. This is all balanced feed 00:08:44.549 --> 00:08:47.759 line. 300 ohm balanced into the switch and then 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:52.320 out of the switch It was all 300 ohm going out 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:56.159 of the switch So there's a lot to see with that 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:59.000 transmitter and a lot to see with the the whole 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:03.480 VOA exhibit Yeah, that's an antenna switch for 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:07.139 sure. You don't line up that many of them that 00:09:07.139 --> 00:09:11.169 often Now, it's amazing how it was all built 00:09:11.169 --> 00:09:15.809 on wood poles. This is the original switch on 00:09:15.809 --> 00:09:18.970 wood utility poles. And the accuracy they had 00:09:18.970 --> 00:09:22.090 to maintain to close these switches. They were 00:09:22.090 --> 00:09:24.950 like a knife switch. And so you had to get in 00:09:24.950 --> 00:09:28.149 between the contacts for the switch to close. 00:09:28.289 --> 00:09:30.690 And it's an amazing piece of construction and 00:09:30.690 --> 00:09:33.409 how stable it was, even though it's wood. So 00:09:33.409 --> 00:09:39.330 quite a sight. Well, it sounds like another great 00:09:39.330 --> 00:09:42.870 opportunity to come and view the museum and and 00:09:42.870 --> 00:09:45.509 like I said get a technical tour and if you if 00:09:45.509 --> 00:09:49.029 you don't make it during Hamvention but you come 00:09:49.029 --> 00:09:52.549 at another time always make sure to tell the 00:09:52.549 --> 00:09:56.710 person that you're a ham because There's a lot 00:09:56.710 --> 00:10:00.929 more technical stuff that the general public 00:10:00.929 --> 00:10:07.210 may not always be interested in. So we do a good 00:10:07.210 --> 00:10:12.850 job of connecting you with one of the hams on 00:10:12.850 --> 00:10:16.490 staff or someone that's at least knowledgeable 00:10:16.490 --> 00:10:22.279 with the RF side of things. to talk about that 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:26.480 as well. Well, there's a lot of construction 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:29.360 going on too, so talk a little bit about this 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:33.799 new part of the building that's going to be opened 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:37.600 up. Yes, the entire east side of the building 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:40.299 was the original building had not been developed 00:10:40.299 --> 00:10:44.059 and was used for heavy storage. And we received 00:10:44.059 --> 00:10:47.779 a very nice grant from Elliott Block Foundation. 00:10:48.419 --> 00:10:51.120 And we are completely renovating the east side 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:54.059 of the building. That's going to include a large 00:10:54.059 --> 00:10:57.820 community hall called Block Pavilion, where you 00:10:57.820 --> 00:11:01.059 can rent and have meetings and banquets and weddings 00:11:01.059 --> 00:11:05.500 and rehearsals and that kind of thing. That's 00:11:05.500 --> 00:11:07.480 almost done. We're waiting for one little thing 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:10.889 and that will be finished up shortly. Then we'll 00:11:10.889 --> 00:11:15.090 have full compliant ADA compliant restrooms for 00:11:15.090 --> 00:11:18.389 men, women, and family. A very, very nice setup 00:11:18.389 --> 00:11:21.250 because we're still operating off the original 00:11:21.250 --> 00:11:26.490 1942 restrooms. So we will be ADA compliant and 00:11:26.490 --> 00:11:29.230 the floor has been brought up to be level with 00:11:29.230 --> 00:11:32.049 the rest of the museum. There were numerous steps 00:11:32.049 --> 00:11:34.710 in this building. You couldn't go anywhere without 00:11:34.710 --> 00:11:37.129 going up or down a few steps. Well, the floor 00:11:37.129 --> 00:11:40.740 has all been leveled so that a new entrance door 00:11:40.740 --> 00:11:42.980 has been put into the side of the building where 00:11:42.980 --> 00:11:45.980 you can come in with a wheelchair and See the 00:11:45.980 --> 00:11:49.460 entire museum all all on one level. So that's 00:11:49.460 --> 00:11:53.200 very Accessible and then the rest of the east 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:57.240 side is being finished into an exhibit area That's 00:11:57.240 --> 00:11:59.659 that'll come after the restrooms are finished 00:11:59.659 --> 00:12:02.820 But it'll be a large brand new exhibit area where 00:12:02.820 --> 00:12:05.639 we can expand our existing exhibits and put in 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:08.639 a lot of new exhibits we've got a a planning 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:11.820 group that has spent a lot of time determining 00:12:11.820 --> 00:12:15.200 what to put in this new area. So that's all very 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:18.899 exciting. I might also mention, Neil, a couple 00:12:18.899 --> 00:12:23.179 other new things in the museum. We made a discovery 00:12:23.179 --> 00:12:27.759 last summer of a transmitter that we did not 00:12:27.759 --> 00:12:31.700 know existed. Way back in the early days when 00:12:31.700 --> 00:12:33.720 Voice of America went on the air, they went on 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:37.899 the air July 1st, 1942. just shortly after, about 00:12:37.899 --> 00:12:42.100 79 days after Pearl Harbor. And they used the 00:12:42.100 --> 00:12:46.139 Paul Crosley WLW shortwave transmitter here in 00:12:46.139 --> 00:12:49.820 Cincinnati to make that broadcast. It was a special 00:12:49.820 --> 00:12:54.080 shortwave transmitter called WLWO, O for Overseas. 00:12:54.700 --> 00:12:58.059 And the government came in and used that transmitter. 00:12:58.220 --> 00:13:02.539 We pushed a signal into Europe for broadcast 00:13:02.539 --> 00:13:07.200 throughout Germany and the rest of Europe. on 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:12.440 July 1st, 1942. Well, that transmitter we thought 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:16.460 had disappeared and lo and behold, we were doing 00:13:16.460 --> 00:13:19.700 some snooping. Last summer, we looked in an old 00:13:19.700 --> 00:13:23.419 building out at the back of the WLW property 00:13:23.419 --> 00:13:27.019 where WLW radio station is, opened the doors 00:13:27.019 --> 00:13:30.879 and lo and behold, there is the WLW -O transmitter. 00:13:32.269 --> 00:13:34.590 We hired a moving company. It was very heavy. 00:13:34.830 --> 00:13:36.909 We had it moved down to the museum, and we spent 00:13:36.909 --> 00:13:39.230 the better part of last summer renovating it. 00:13:39.549 --> 00:13:42.129 So it is in the museum now. It's on display. 00:13:43.750 --> 00:13:48.850 And it makes a wonderful viewing of how an RF 00:13:48.850 --> 00:13:52.470 transmitter looks on the inside. In addition, 00:13:52.929 --> 00:13:56.350 there's a story about that. that no one knew 00:13:56.350 --> 00:13:59.049 about. It turned out that this transmitter was 00:13:59.049 --> 00:14:02.169 also used as a secret spy transmitter for the 00:14:02.169 --> 00:14:05.450 U .S. government to broadcast spies throughout 00:14:05.450 --> 00:14:08.570 Europe, Africa, and South America. So we'll tell 00:14:08.570 --> 00:14:11.509 you the rest of that story, but it's a fascinating 00:14:11.509 --> 00:14:16.409 find. And lastly, by the time hand benching occurs, 00:14:16.590 --> 00:14:19.629 we will have on display a piece of equipment 00:14:19.629 --> 00:14:23.539 that is rather iconic. We are receiving a donation 00:14:23.539 --> 00:14:27.159 of a piece of equipment that Marconi used in 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:32.080 Nova Scotia when he did his transatlantic broadcast. 00:14:33.419 --> 00:14:35.980 And one of the gentlemen that worked for Marconi 00:14:35.980 --> 00:14:39.419 for 53 years has passed it down through the family 00:14:39.419 --> 00:14:42.299 and they have contacted us and will be receiving 00:14:42.299 --> 00:14:45.440 that unit next week. So we will have an original 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:48.919 piece of, actually it's a receiver that was used 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:52.519 at that facility. So that'll be on display also. 00:14:53.799 --> 00:14:57.840 And for those that may have taken the high power 00:14:57.840 --> 00:15:02.320 tour for the WLW in 1934 had a half a million 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:05.440 watt AM broadcast station on the air. And that 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:08.360 transmitter still exists down at the WLW site 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:12.120 about a mile and a half from the museum. Last 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:15.379 year we did, or not last year, last time. Last 00:15:15.379 --> 00:15:18.720 hand. There was a hand bridge, which was over 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:23.840 two years ago. We did a tour, Jay, Adrake, and 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:27.399 Jeff did a tour of that transmitter. We wanted 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:30.860 to do it again this year, but the property has 00:15:30.860 --> 00:15:33.120 been sold and is under commercial development, 00:15:33.580 --> 00:15:36.000 and so there's construction going on around that 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:39.639 building, and it's not safe to be in or out around 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:43.100 that building. It's not possible to have that 00:15:43.100 --> 00:15:46.159 tour this year, but next year we're hopeful that 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:49.320 all that construction will be finished up and 00:15:49.320 --> 00:15:51.440 it'll be safe and that we could take people back 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:53.940 in. So stay tuned for next year. Maybe we can 00:15:53.940 --> 00:15:58.259 get back in there. So that's kind of the update. 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:03.720 Okay, very good. Yeah, for those of you who may 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:08.919 not have heard, the WLW site, which he was talking 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:13.500 about, mile and a half down the road, they actually 00:16:13.500 --> 00:16:16.600 sold off most of the land and they're building 00:16:16.600 --> 00:16:21.139 a shopping center. And I think the guy wires 00:16:21.139 --> 00:16:23.879 actually like end up in the parking lot somewhere 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:27.100 or something. Is that what I saw? Yes, under 00:16:27.100 --> 00:16:30.419 the tower will be storage facility. It's going 00:16:30.419 --> 00:16:35.159 to be where you do locked up storage and it's 00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:38.470 actually going to be called towers storage. But 00:16:38.470 --> 00:16:41.809 it'll be a storage facility. That's underneath 00:16:41.809 --> 00:16:45.990 the tower. And remember, that tower is pushing 00:16:45.990 --> 00:16:50.389 out 50kW of RF. But you're underneath the guy 00:16:50.389 --> 00:16:53.090 wires. It's going to be interesting to see how 00:16:53.090 --> 00:16:56.129 this plays out and how they protect the guy wires 00:16:56.129 --> 00:17:00.250 and protect the tower. Because they put the roads 00:17:00.250 --> 00:17:03.950 in, and they've done a nice job of circumventing 00:17:03.950 --> 00:17:06.170 all of the guy wires. But yeah, you're going 00:17:06.170 --> 00:17:10.400 to be right next to that tower. That is going 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:13.460 to be interesting because that thing puts out 00:17:13.460 --> 00:17:16.759 some power even though it's only a tenth of what 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:21.380 it used to be. It's still 50 ,000 watts and so 00:17:21.380 --> 00:17:25.400 I'm going to be interested to see how they keep 00:17:25.400 --> 00:17:31.099 it out of the PA systems in the stores. Things 00:17:31.099 --> 00:17:36.940 like that because it's going to be a stretch. 00:17:37.980 --> 00:17:43.480 What we have heard is this company has already 00:17:43.480 --> 00:17:46.460 done two commercial developments under high -powered 00:17:46.460 --> 00:17:50.220 transmitter antennas and the building apparently 00:17:50.220 --> 00:17:54.259 will be hardened. And special grounding and filters 00:17:54.259 --> 00:17:58.000 will be on the phone lines and net lines and 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:00.319 everything. So apparently they have some background 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:03.980 and experience making us successful in a high 00:18:03.980 --> 00:18:08.160 RF environment. Yeah. And I just can't imagine 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:12.700 the guy wires for this monster tower just ended 00:18:12.700 --> 00:18:16.940 up in a parking lot. But yeah, but we'll see 00:18:16.940 --> 00:18:23.609 how it goes. But It's gonna be interesting. So 00:18:23.609 --> 00:18:27.509 hopefully next year, it'll be far enough along 00:18:27.509 --> 00:18:30.990 that we can do that tour. Well, if people wanna 00:18:30.990 --> 00:18:36.730 come and do the special Hamvention tour, and 00:18:36.730 --> 00:18:40.289 again, you said Friday and Saturday during Hamvention 00:18:40.289 --> 00:18:46.130 one to nine, right? Yes 1 to 9 on Friday and 00:18:46.130 --> 00:18:50.809 Saturday and 1 to 5 p .m. On Sunday yeah, and 00:18:50.809 --> 00:18:54.390 and you know we usually bring a crew down on 00:18:54.390 --> 00:18:57.759 Saturday evening after ham vincen and so that's 00:18:57.759 --> 00:18:59.720 why it goes to nine o 'clock so that way you 00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:02.500 can still do all the stuff at Hamvention and 00:19:02.500 --> 00:19:07.460 then run down and enjoy the museum but it'll 00:19:07.460 --> 00:19:10.440 be it'll be open and so if people want to come 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:13.319 how much does it cost how do people sign up do 00:19:13.319 --> 00:19:16.019 they need to sign up do they just show up what 00:19:16.019 --> 00:19:19.000 tell us tell us about how to make those arrangements 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:25.039 okay there is no Sign up it's just walk in we're 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:27.700 open and we will have docents and tour guides 00:19:27.700 --> 00:19:31.799 available The cost is $10 per person for age 00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:36.259 16 and above And that's at the door and then 00:19:36.259 --> 00:19:42.380 you can do a self -guided tour The ham shack 00:19:42.380 --> 00:19:44.819 is open. You are more than welcome to go into 00:19:44.819 --> 00:19:48.339 ham shack and operate under the WCA whiskey Charlie 00:19:48.339 --> 00:19:54.359 8 Boa Call sign And we have six operating positions 00:19:54.359 --> 00:19:58.000 and a couple of yagis. We've got a lot of broadcast 00:19:58.000 --> 00:19:59.960 capability there. So you're more than welcome 00:19:59.960 --> 00:20:02.259 to get on there. And quite a few hams do come 00:20:02.259 --> 00:20:04.200 in. You make sure you bring your license with 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:08.759 you. We need to see an active amateur radio license. 00:20:09.180 --> 00:20:11.460 And with that, you pretty much be good to go. 00:20:12.500 --> 00:20:15.680 The location is down in Westchester, Ohio. There 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:21.839 will be maps at our booth. booth number 1910, 00:20:21.859 --> 00:20:29.480 1910, in the building number one, the Maxim building 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:34.240 for Hiram Percy, Maxim. We'll be in that building, 00:20:34.599 --> 00:20:36.779 booth number 1910. We're kind of back in the 00:20:36.779 --> 00:20:39.859 one corner. There'll be maps on the booth that 00:20:39.859 --> 00:20:42.359 you can get. And we're also going to have maps 00:20:42.359 --> 00:20:51.230 on the ham radio website, the WCAVOA .org, riskycharlie8voiceofamerica 00:20:51.230 --> 00:20:54.309 .org. Go to that website and you'll be able to 00:20:54.309 --> 00:20:56.829 download a map. It's not up today, but it'll 00:20:56.829 --> 00:21:00.130 be up in a couple, three days here. So you can 00:21:00.130 --> 00:21:03.750 get a map. But come on down, any time between 00:21:03.750 --> 00:21:07.650 1 p .m. and 9 p .m. on Friday and Saturday, and 00:21:07.650 --> 00:21:10.710 we'll have people there. And you can, it's just 00:21:10.710 --> 00:21:13.900 a fun place to look around. Two rooms now, I've 00:21:13.900 --> 00:21:16.599 got one room that's just 100 % dedicated to ham 00:21:16.599 --> 00:21:21.259 radio. You'll see some of the old original Collins 00:21:21.259 --> 00:21:23.599 transmitters used by the development engineers 00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:26.380 there. And then I've got another room of early 00:21:26.380 --> 00:21:30.359 radio, which is basically spark gap up through 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:33.799 the 1930s and 40s. And then another room that 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:36.619 picks it up from the 40s up into the 1990s. So 00:21:36.619 --> 00:21:39.740 there is a lot of radio and a lot of broadcasting 00:21:39.740 --> 00:21:44.019 to see there. So come on down. Yep, just a quick 00:21:44.019 --> 00:21:48.140 trip down 75 and about a mile off of the road 00:21:48.140 --> 00:21:50.880 and you're there. So, all right. Well, we're 00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:52.619 going to take a break. And when we come back, 00:21:52.619 --> 00:21:55.339 we're going to talk some more with Lee Height, 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:59.299 KHCLI, about the National Voice of America Museum 00:21:59.299 --> 00:22:02.960 of Broadcasting open house during Dayton Hamvention, 00:22:03.099 --> 00:22:08.460 2022, right after this word from ICOM America, 00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:13.859 right here on HamTalk Live. Spring is on the 00:22:13.859 --> 00:22:18.039 air! Get outside with the ID52A, the industry's 00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:20.500 first handheld that can send photos over the 00:22:20.500 --> 00:22:23.880 D -Star network. With the ID52A, you can call 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:26.859 a friend in another city or internationally through 00:22:26.859 --> 00:22:30.240 D -Star repeaters with clear digital audio. 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We'll get back to Lee Hite, the KHCLI, 00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:16.779 here in just a moment. He's the lead docent at 00:24:16.779 --> 00:24:21.019 the Voice of America Museum of Broadcasting in 00:24:21.019 --> 00:24:23.619 Westchester, Ohio. That's suburban Cincinnati. 00:24:24.220 --> 00:24:29.000 Just a short trip away from the Hamvention. We'll 00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:32.559 talk some more with Lee about the open house 00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:36.859 and some new stuff at the museum. We're back 00:24:36.859 --> 00:24:41.599 with Lee Hite, K8CLI. He is the lead docent of 00:24:41.599 --> 00:24:45.180 the National Voice of America Museum of Broadcasting 00:24:45.180 --> 00:24:48.680 in Westchester, Ohio, and they are announcing 00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:52.619 their open house hours during Hamvention. So 00:24:52.619 --> 00:24:56.059 if you are coming to Hamvention, this is a nice 00:24:56.059 --> 00:25:01.910 little side trip. Just down I -75 for an evening. 00:25:02.170 --> 00:25:06.289 Come check it out or on your way home on Sunday. 00:25:06.809 --> 00:25:10.589 Again, the hours Friday and Saturday of Hamvention 00:25:10.589 --> 00:25:15.970 1 to 9 p .m. and then 1 to 5 p .m. on Sunday. 00:25:17.609 --> 00:25:20.829 And Lee, let's talk a little more about the shack. 00:25:21.970 --> 00:25:25.029 You know, you mentioned several operating positions 00:25:25.029 --> 00:25:29.349 and you need to have proof of your license. Talk 00:25:29.349 --> 00:25:31.970 a little bit about what goes on there in the 00:25:31.970 --> 00:25:36.690 shack. Yes, we have six operating positions. 00:25:36.910 --> 00:25:41.109 We have full digital, full digital sideband and 00:25:41.109 --> 00:25:45.230 CW, actually two sidebands operating positions, 00:25:46.109 --> 00:25:49.289 and of course amplifiers to run full power, but 00:25:49.289 --> 00:25:52.309 a lot of the QSOs that go on are with 100 watt 00:25:52.309 --> 00:25:55.859 transceivers. And when the museum is open on 00:25:55.859 --> 00:26:00.180 the weekend, the hams graciously come in and 00:26:00.180 --> 00:26:04.440 staff the ham shack. And as we begin a tour for 00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:08.079 guests that come in, most of them have no clue 00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:11.180 what shortwave radio is. They've heard the term, 00:26:11.339 --> 00:26:14.339 have no idea what it is. So we stop by the ham 00:26:14.339 --> 00:26:17.720 shack for about 10 minutes and the operators 00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:20.079 there, there are three or four, they can just 00:26:20.079 --> 00:26:22.779 do a wonderful talk. and explain to the public 00:26:22.779 --> 00:26:26.640 what is ham radio what is shortwave radio because 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:29.180 the voice of america used shortwave radio is 00:26:29.180 --> 00:26:32.119 one of its vehicles for pushing its message out 00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:36.099 so that that is what we do every weekend and 00:26:36.099 --> 00:26:39.039 they do a marvelous job and they'll put small 00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:41.839 children on the air they have people that they 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:45.460 talk to regularly in europe that know that we 00:26:45.460 --> 00:26:48.160 are open on the weekend and they're kind of listening 00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:53.829 for that special call and We've had five -year 00:26:53.829 --> 00:26:56.890 -olds, 10 -year -olds on the air, and they're 00:26:56.890 --> 00:26:59.210 not bashful. They just get right into it and 00:26:59.210 --> 00:27:02.589 start talking to somebody in Spain or Australia 00:27:02.589 --> 00:27:05.809 or wherever we happen to be talking. But it makes 00:27:05.809 --> 00:27:10.470 a very good point that the communication is antenna 00:27:10.470 --> 00:27:14.259 to antenna and nothing in between. and you can't 00:27:14.259 --> 00:27:16.720 turn it off like some countries do with the Internet 00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:20.160 and other forms of communication. Short waves, 00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:23.240 antenna to antenna, and it really makes a powerful 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:26.700 impression, I think, on people. Now, we've been 00:27:26.700 --> 00:27:29.940 hearing in the news, you know, some things about 00:27:29.940 --> 00:27:33.420 broadcasts starting back up and pointing them 00:27:33.420 --> 00:27:40.440 into certain places of the Earth. And, you know, 00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:44.369 that's kind of... reminiscent of what Voice of 00:27:44.369 --> 00:27:47.690 America was doing with this Bethany relay station 00:27:47.690 --> 00:27:51.430 back in the 40s. So talk just a little bit about 00:27:51.430 --> 00:27:59.890 why this place existed. Yes, when World War II 00:27:59.890 --> 00:28:04.569 started in 1939, there was concern about propaganda 00:28:04.569 --> 00:28:08.450 being broadcast out of Germany and other nearby 00:28:08.450 --> 00:28:11.559 countries. But it wasn't until France fell in 00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:14.619 1940 that President Roosevelt figured out that 00:28:14.619 --> 00:28:17.000 he's going to have to eventually probably get 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.960 into this war. And of course, Pearl Harbor was 00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:23.359 the wake -up call. And at the point of Pearl 00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:27.059 Harbor, that's when President Roosevelt says, 00:28:27.220 --> 00:28:29.740 I got to do it and I got to do it now. So they 00:28:29.740 --> 00:28:32.680 immediately put on the air within five days after, 00:28:32.940 --> 00:28:35.630 I'm sorry, seven days after Pearl Harbor. they 00:28:35.630 --> 00:28:38.569 put on the GE station out on the west coast, 00:28:39.789 --> 00:28:43.650 KGEI. That went on the air seven days after Pearl 00:28:43.650 --> 00:28:47.289 Harbor. We got cranked up. It took us a while 00:28:47.289 --> 00:28:50.710 to get cranked up, but by 80 days after Pearl 00:28:50.710 --> 00:28:53.230 Harbor, they got WLWO reconfigured. That was 00:28:53.230 --> 00:28:58.049 a 75 ,000 watt shortwave transmitter. They got 00:28:58.049 --> 00:29:02.829 that on the air, and by July 1st, 1942, it began 00:29:02.829 --> 00:29:05.990 making official VOA broadcast with the studios 00:29:05.990 --> 00:29:09.430 in New York. And it was to counter the propaganda. 00:29:10.029 --> 00:29:14.210 Hitler had been very, very successful in understanding 00:29:14.210 --> 00:29:16.609 shortwave radio and particularly understanding 00:29:16.609 --> 00:29:23.430 propagation. He had not only over 68 transmitters 00:29:23.430 --> 00:29:26.130 in the country, but he was very successful at 00:29:26.130 --> 00:29:30.509 getting control of his people. The radio that 00:29:30.509 --> 00:29:33.049 he subsidized was the only radio people could 00:29:33.049 --> 00:29:37.410 afford and he owned the only broadcast station. 00:29:37.829 --> 00:29:40.650 So he very much got control of the information 00:29:40.650 --> 00:29:43.109 that the people received. Then on top of that, 00:29:43.490 --> 00:29:45.450 he said he needed to get the rest of the world 00:29:45.450 --> 00:29:47.710 involved. He was trying to encourage Latin America 00:29:47.710 --> 00:29:50.190 to go to war with the United States. So he put 00:29:50.190 --> 00:29:53.450 a powerful signal into Latin America. And that 00:29:53.450 --> 00:29:55.630 really fired up Roosevelt. And he says, that 00:29:55.630 --> 00:29:58.829 can't be. We've got to counter that with our 00:29:58.829 --> 00:30:01.529 view of democracy. And that's really what kicked 00:30:01.529 --> 00:30:05.950 off Voice of America. I mentioned something. 00:30:06.410 --> 00:30:09.829 If you set aside communism, if you set aside 00:30:09.829 --> 00:30:13.049 the Nazi ideology, and just look at what German 00:30:13.049 --> 00:30:16.529 engineering did, it was, in my personal opinion, 00:30:16.690 --> 00:30:19.930 just downright brilliant. Because very early, 00:30:20.029 --> 00:30:24.700 in 1933, They've really understood propagation 00:30:24.700 --> 00:30:29.000 because the radio that they put out into the 00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:31.480 population in a course of six years, they put 00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:35.940 15 million of these home radios out. And guess 00:30:35.940 --> 00:30:39.779 what? It wasn't short wave. It was medium wave 00:30:39.779 --> 00:30:42.180 and long wave. It was the AM broadcast band. 00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:45.759 But more importantly, it was long wave. And the 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:49.200 long wave is 150 kilohertz to 300 kilohertz generally. 00:30:51.110 --> 00:30:54.809 That is not dependent as you all know not dependent 00:30:54.809 --> 00:30:57.869 on the ionosphere So he was able to push the 00:30:57.869 --> 00:31:01.009 signal out anytime daytime anytime nighttime 00:31:01.009 --> 00:31:04.190 And it would you know, you could push long wave 00:31:04.190 --> 00:31:08.930 as far as a couple thousand miles. So He understood 00:31:08.930 --> 00:31:11.690 prop his people understood propagation and they 00:31:11.690 --> 00:31:14.980 did a very good job. So Why do I say all that? 00:31:15.019 --> 00:31:18.779 Well, so did Voice of America. We use shortwave 00:31:18.779 --> 00:31:21.819 out of Bethany Station here in Westchester to 00:31:21.819 --> 00:31:25.259 push signals around the world. And so did Delano, 00:31:25.259 --> 00:31:27.799 California, and Dixon, California, and Greenville, 00:31:27.980 --> 00:31:31.819 North Carolina, the four VOA sites, use shortwave 00:31:31.819 --> 00:31:34.299 to push signals around the world. But once they 00:31:34.299 --> 00:31:37.579 got to their destination, they generally went 00:31:37.579 --> 00:31:39.960 through a relay station. Like we pushed a lot 00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:44.099 to BBC. And BBC rebroadcast our signal. Well, 00:31:44.140 --> 00:31:47.579 guess what? It was on long wave. After Germany 00:31:47.579 --> 00:31:51.000 fell, BOA built a gigantic facility in Munich, 00:31:51.220 --> 00:31:54.559 Germany, a 1 million watt long wave station. 00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:58.279 And it's about the only one. There were other 00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:02.339 high power medium wave stations in Africa and 00:32:02.339 --> 00:32:05.480 other parts of Europe because you're not dependent 00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:07.740 on the atmosphere. You know, here in Bethany, 00:32:07.740 --> 00:32:09.539 we had certain times of the day that we could 00:32:09.539 --> 00:32:13.420 either hit the E or F layer. And it was very, 00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:17.559 it was kind of complicated to get on the air 00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:19.839 at the right time. So a little bit of a long 00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:22.140 explanation, Neil, I apologize for that. But 00:32:22.140 --> 00:32:25.740 what was not very well understood was the success 00:32:25.740 --> 00:32:28.980 that they used for long wave communication. Europe 00:32:28.980 --> 00:32:31.259 is still using long wave. The United States never 00:32:31.259 --> 00:32:34.160 did buy into long wave. But you, I just listened 00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:42.259 the other day, BBC has A long wave station on 00:32:42.259 --> 00:32:44.579 the air still today. Oh, and I take that back. 00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:47.819 It went off just a couple of years ago. It lasted 00:32:47.819 --> 00:32:51.420 all the way from the 30s when BBC went on the 00:32:51.420 --> 00:32:53.740 air and was shut down a couple of years ago. 00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:56.200 That channel is still on the air, but the long 00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:58.900 wave station was finally shut down. So that's 00:32:58.900 --> 00:33:03.480 kind of the short version of that. Yeah, so that 00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:08.369 was incredible. Find and you are so good at finding 00:33:08.369 --> 00:33:12.230 out all this stuff that that you know we talk 00:33:12.230 --> 00:33:14.769 about the shortwave all the time but actually 00:33:14.769 --> 00:33:17.910 you know there was there was a lot of long wave 00:33:17.910 --> 00:33:20.769 there too and i know you know a lot of those. 00:33:21.410 --> 00:33:23.970 Those radios that were available just you know 00:33:23.970 --> 00:33:27.549 would not tune in the right frequency so it was 00:33:27.549 --> 00:33:32.450 always you know a battle to get. the signal on 00:33:32.450 --> 00:33:34.650 the right frequency so people could actually 00:33:34.650 --> 00:33:39.730 hear it. Yes, yes it was. And there was a lot 00:33:39.730 --> 00:33:42.430 of jamming going on. And the interesting thing 00:33:42.430 --> 00:33:44.430 is when you talk to, we had a lot of immigrants 00:33:44.430 --> 00:33:47.650 in the museum that listened and immigrated because 00:33:47.650 --> 00:33:49.730 they listened to Voice of America. And what's 00:33:49.730 --> 00:33:54.349 fascinating is they were so used to jamming that 00:33:54.349 --> 00:33:57.170 what VOA would do is if we got jammed, we just 00:33:57.170 --> 00:34:00.339 move five kilohertz up or down the band. We didn't 00:34:00.339 --> 00:34:02.640 go clear to the other end of the band. So if 00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:05.420 you're in the broadcast and all of a sudden we 00:34:05.420 --> 00:34:07.920 go away, they knew enough just to touch the dial. 00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:09.920 Little bit up, little bit down. Oh, there they 00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:13.099 are. And so they would, Cat and Mouse, they'd 00:34:13.099 --> 00:34:16.840 follow us around the band as people tried to 00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:24.139 jam us. Pretty ingenious. And you can check out 00:34:24.139 --> 00:34:28.630 all of this. History and all the equipment and 00:34:28.630 --> 00:34:33.829 all these cool things at the National Voice of 00:34:33.829 --> 00:34:36.329 America Museum of Broadcasting, Westchester, 00:34:36.550 --> 00:34:41.829 Ohio, just off of Tylersville Road and Crosley 00:34:41.829 --> 00:34:44.050 Boulevard, I believe, is what you want to use 00:34:44.050 --> 00:34:47.110 on your GPS, because if you put in Tylersville, 00:34:47.130 --> 00:34:52.349 it takes you to some place crazy, I think. Crosley 00:34:52.349 --> 00:34:55.989 Boulevard is the front driveway, so that'll get 00:34:55.989 --> 00:35:03.170 you there. And you know, last week WLW celebrated 00:35:03.170 --> 00:35:07.070 their 100th anniversary just down the street 00:35:07.070 --> 00:35:12.030 and I listened to part of that on the air and 00:35:12.030 --> 00:35:18.030 just a lot of good memories. And the Voice of 00:35:18.030 --> 00:35:21.949 America is here in Ohio because of WLW, because 00:35:21.949 --> 00:35:25.730 of Paul Crosley. Had he not have put his radio 00:35:25.730 --> 00:35:28.289 station here, particularly had he not have done 00:35:28.289 --> 00:35:31.670 a half a million watt AM broadcast station in 00:35:31.670 --> 00:35:34.730 1934, they would have not known how to do the 00:35:34.730 --> 00:35:37.880 high power. You know, when they went on the air 00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:41.360 in 42, or I'm sorry, in 44 with the high power 00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:44.099 stuff, this country had never built 200 ,000 00:35:44.099 --> 00:35:46.239 watt shortwave transmitters. It was the first 00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:48.840 shortwave transmitter in the United States to 00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:50.820 go on the air. We didn't know how to build the 00:35:50.820 --> 00:35:52.719 tubes. We didn't know how to build the transmitters. 00:35:52.940 --> 00:35:55.900 And so Crosley figured all that out. And they 00:35:55.900 --> 00:35:58.199 got a lot of experience earlier when they put 00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:02.119 that half million watt station on the air. Sure 00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:06.179 did. well lee thank you so much for uh... coming 00:36:06.179 --> 00:36:09.440 on the show and tell us about the uh... open 00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:12.119 house and again uh... whiskey charlie eight voice 00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:15.340 of america dot org uh... that we see it the way 00:36:15.340 --> 00:36:18.199 dot org you can uh... look up the uh... times 00:36:18.199 --> 00:36:20.699 if you forget those in them the maps will be 00:36:20.699 --> 00:36:24.219 up there soon uh... check that out and and get 00:36:24.219 --> 00:36:26.699 uh... what you need and and stop by the booth 00:36:26.699 --> 00:36:30.719 ham vincente uh... in building one and and visit 00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:34.170 and uh... and then Come down to the museum, check 00:36:34.170 --> 00:36:39.230 it out. And that's also the site for the second 00:36:39.230 --> 00:36:42.329 Youth on the Air camp coming up. Got to put my 00:36:42.329 --> 00:36:45.670 plug in for that. Coming up, I think it's three 00:36:45.670 --> 00:36:48.369 weeks after Hamvention, if I remember right, 00:36:48.469 --> 00:36:52.969 June 12th through 17th. So you'll get to see 00:36:52.969 --> 00:36:58.090 where we're having the camp here. So Lee, any 00:36:58.090 --> 00:37:00.929 final words here before we sign off tonight? 00:37:01.659 --> 00:37:05.000 No, thank you, Neil, for inviting us to be on 00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:08.420 the program. It's always exciting to be here. 00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:11.260 And just to invite everyone, come on down for 00:37:11.260 --> 00:37:15.059 that weekend. We can enhance your overall experience 00:37:15.059 --> 00:37:18.119 for coming up to Hamvention in the Xenia area. 00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:20.980 So come on down, see us, and I'm sure you'll 00:37:20.980 --> 00:37:25.460 have a good time. Absolutely, and you can... 00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:28.519 Get on the air and Whiskey Charlie 8 Voice of 00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:33.599 America and you'll get a pile up. So be prepared. 00:37:33.860 --> 00:37:38.079 Come on down and enjoy some time in the shack 00:37:38.079 --> 00:37:40.260 as well. So Lee, thank you so much for being 00:37:40.260 --> 00:37:43.300 here and we'll be talking to you again soon. 00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:48.440 Thank you, Neil. That is a wrap for this edition 00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:50.559 of HamTalk Live. I'd like to thank my guest, 00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:55.079 Lee Hite. K8 CLI and everybody out there in cyberspace 00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:57.960 for listening. For a list of all of our upcoming 00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:02.320 guests go to HamTalkLive .com. So for now this 00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:07.679 is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG saying 7 -3, 7 -5, and may 00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:22.210 the good DX be yours. To you and your family 00:38:22.210 --> 00:38:27.250 I'll be seein' you further down the line It's 00:38:27.250 --> 00:38:30.469 hard to believe that you're empty indeed Cause 00:38:30.469 --> 00:38:34.889 you sound just like a local up here But why don't 00:38:34.889 --> 00:38:38.869 those whistling Mediterranean's Check it when 00:38:38.869 --> 00:38:44.170 the frequency's clear? We're warm and cozy in 00:38:44.170 --> 00:38:47.289 our shack So we have talked about thousands of 00:38:47.289 --> 00:38:51.710 things About shoes, about ships, about ceiling 00:38:51.710 --> 00:38:58.190 wax About cabbages and kings So 73's, to you 00:38:58.190 --> 00:38:58.570 and me