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we go, welcome to Hamtop Live Call in, let's

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talk, Neil's your guy Hamtop Live, here we go

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on Hamtop Radio It's HamTalk Live, episode number

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303, The Young Ham of the Year 2022, recorded

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on August 20th, 2022. I'm your host, Neil Rapp,

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WB9VPG. Thanks for tuning in to this episode

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of HamTalk Live. Today we're joined by Audrey

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McElroy, KM4BUN. And Don Wilbanks, AE5DW, and

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a reminder that if you miss an episode of HamTalk

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uh... for your time zone uh... but uh... this

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is uh... recorded live down in the huntsville

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uh... from this weekend and uh... hope you uh...

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enjoy this one so i'll be back with audrey and

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Out of all of the ham radio podcasts in the world,

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this is definitely one of them. You are listening

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to Ham Talk Live with Neil Rapp WB9VPG. Welcome

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back to HamTalk Live and coming up here in just

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a moment we'll have Audrey McElroy KM4BUN and

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Don Wilbanks AE5DW but just want to take a moment

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here to thank everyone for tuning in I know the

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schedule's been a little sporadic here lately

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a lot of stuff going on but We're we're working

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through it all and just releasing these when

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we can so All right. Well, it's it's time to

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get to our interview part of the show Welcome

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back to ham talk live. We're here live at the

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Huntsville ham fest Huntsville, Alabama and A

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little later this afternoon, there will be the

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presentation of the 2022 amateur radio news line

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Bill Pasternak Memorial Young Ham of the Year

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Award. And I have with us today the recipient

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of that award, Audrey McElroy, K -4BUN, and the

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infamous Don Wilbanks AE -5DW. So Audrey, how

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are things going? It's going great. I'm so happy

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to be here. Huntsville is definitely one of my

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favorite hamfests that I attend and yeah, I'm

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so happy to be here. Now you've got a quick trip

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because you got to get back to school. What's

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going on at school? I do. I just started at Georgia

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Tech. I'm majoring in computer engineering and

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my convocation is Sunday morning at 9 a .m. So

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I got a skedaddle after presentation. Yeah, so

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how are you adjusting to the college life at

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Georgia Tech? It's been a little bit of an adjustment

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being down in, I guess, the big city coming out

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of North Georgia, but it's been really fun. I

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love Georgia Tech. I love the academics. I love

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the people. And so I'm really excited to spend

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the next few years there. All right. And have

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you had a chance to check out the ham radio club

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yet? Debbie for a QL personally my favorite ham

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station in the entire world right now I've been

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down there. I was down there last year working

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a few contests, but this year. They're just getting

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started this fall There was a few roof renovations

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going on over the summer with the antennas and

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so this fall will be getting started and I'm

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really excited. Yeah it's but it's a cool club

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with a lot of history and They have they have

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been very competitive, shall we say, in some

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of these contests. They're smack -talking the

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other clubs and everything else. There's a lot

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of history there. I'm sure you will fit in very

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well there. And the infamous Don Wilbanks is

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here, AE5DW. How's it going, Don? How was the

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trip? That is an accurate statement. No, the

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trip was uneventful, a little bit of rain, but

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it was nice. Don and I came up, and yeah, I love

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this ham fest. This is the ham fest, I think,

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it's probably the first big ham fest I ever went

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to in 95, literally within a year of getting

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my ticket, and I gauge every ham fest compared

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to this one. And the only way Dayton beats this

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is Dayton's bigger. Otherwise, this is my favorite

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ham fest. The friendliness of the people here

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you cannot beat. They say it's the world's friendliest

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ham fest and that is an absolute true statement.

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It sure is. The people here are just very, very

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friendly and make it a point. to be that way.

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This was my first time setting up a booth. We're

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back here by the youth lounge right now. We have

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a table just outside of the youth lounge for

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youth on the air. And so this was my first time

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to get here in daylight. I'm used to pulling

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in at like midnight and, you know, coming in

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and setting up. And so we drove right into this

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place, dropped off all the stuff. The carts were

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all here. Just, you know, everybody was very

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helpful to get us situated and get everything

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ready to go. And then this morning, we came in,

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finalized everything, and it's just been very

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good. And we had a few issues, and they were

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right on it and took care of them and made sure

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that they were living up to their name, the world's

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friendliest ham fest. We're very glad to be here

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and this has been the home of the Young Ham of

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the Year Award for quite a while. Since 1993

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was the first year that the Young Ham of the

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Year has been presented here and it's not left

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and we hope to continue that trend far into the

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future beyond mine and your days on this planet.

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So yeah, this will be a... This is a great home.

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We certainly appreciate Huntsville Hamfest and

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everything they've done to accommodate Young

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Ham of the Year and do what they do for us. And

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we're certainly happy to do what we can do for

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them. So tell us a little bit about what's going

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to take place this afternoon for those who maybe

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weren't here or not able to watch. Tell us a

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little bit about the presentation. We will be

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live on the main stage at two o 'clock in the

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afternoon. That's our traditional time to do

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it. It's a very cool little presentation. I kind

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of patterned it after watching Bill Pasternak

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do it for forever and ever and ever. Of course,

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he's a silent key now, so I've inherited the

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honor of presenting this every year now, and

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it's the highlight of my year. We're gonna go

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up on stage. I'm gonna introduce Audrey to the

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crowd and tell them a little bit about her. And

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we'll have some folks from our corporate sponsors.

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CQ Magazine has been around since year one. Yezu

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USA has been around since year one. Heil Sound

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has been around for a good long while as well.

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And I think it's the 11th or 12th year now for

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Radio Waves Antennas. So they'll all have a presentation

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for Audrey and some nice words. And we'll present

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the plaque to Audrey and she'll get some gifts.

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And it's a great time. We get to... Spread the

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positive word of what's going on with youth in

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not just America but around the world with amateur

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radio. I say it every year up on stage and there's

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so many more good kids than there are bad kids.

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I even hate to use the term bad kids, misguided

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perhaps, off on the wrong path. The kid who wins

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the spelling bee doesn't get the top slot on

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the 10 o 'clock news. So we try to do that and

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highlight exactly what's going on with great

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representatives of the hobby and just of humanity

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like Audrey. And I always say that she's an indication

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of the kind of people that are going to be running

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the world after we're gone and the world's going

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to be just fine. Absolutely. So, I know yesterday

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I ran into somebody that said he was going to

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be up on stage with you because, unfortunately,

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Rich Mosison from CQ Magazine is not here with

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us this weekend. So, how are you going to deal

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with this guy up on stage with you? Well, we

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went with plan L. B through M were unavailable.

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So we went with plan L and normally, you know

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Rich's is one of the young hem of the year judges

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So he always and being the editor of CQ magazine

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he is a wordsmith and he's a very eloquent speaker

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and Anytime the man exhales it seems like I learned

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something. So what we're going to do we're going

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to have Joe Eisenberg, KZeroNEB, the pride of

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Lincoln, Nebraska, the kit building editor for

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CQ magazine. So basically what we're going to

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do is we're going to replace the eloquent words

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of Rich with the ramblings of a madman in Joe.

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So that will be what we're going to do. You know,

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Joe got that gig, the writing for CQ, in the

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back of my car. I'm not going to share any more

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details than that. Let's just say he got it in

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the back of my car. Actually, we were on our

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way to dinner several years ago with the Young

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Ham of the Year, and Rich and Joe were writing

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with me. And Rich said, hey, you ever thought

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about writing for CQ? And Joe was like, well,

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yeah, maybe. Take the job, Joe. And so that's

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how Joe became the kit building editor for CQ

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Magazine. in the back seat of a Chrysler 300.

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There you go. We won't ask about more of the

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details on that one. Those kinds of things, that's

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what happens when you get a bunch of us together.

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You get roped into doing things like running

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a youth camp and anchoring news line. You never

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know what's going to happen. Alright, well we're

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going to take a break and when we come back we're

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going to talk some more with Audrey and talk

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a little bit more about what she's been doing

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with Ham Radio right after this word from Tower

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Electronics right here on HamTalk Live. Thanks

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for choosing Tower Electronics. How may we help

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you today? We have PL259s. We have in connectors.

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We have SMA adapters. We have BNC adapters. What

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can I show you today? Where's the tower? Well,

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we don't actually have a tower with us, but we

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have all kinds of things you can use with a tower.

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We have power poles, antennas, soldering irons

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and meters. Where's the tower? Ma 'am, that's

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the name of our company. We can't haul towers

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to all the ham fest across the country that we

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visit. But we have almost every connector and

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adapter you would need to connect your antenna

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that's on your tower. I don't think there's a

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tower back there. I really don't. Tower Electronics.

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Visit us at a Hanves near you or call 920 -435

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Sorry, one thing we don't have is a tower. And

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on the Tower Electronics HamFest schedule, they'll

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be in Shelby, North Carolina on September 2nd,

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3rd, and 4th. But you can visit them anytime,

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anywhere at PL -259 .com. You're listening to

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HamTalk Live. Welcome back to HamTalk Live. Be

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sure to check us out on Facebook, Twitter, and

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Instagram. We'll get back to Audrey and Don here

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in just a moment. But for now, it's time for

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the Joke of the Week. Now it's time for the HamTalk

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Live Ham Radio Joke of the Week, the part of

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the show where Rick tells us a ham radio joke.

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The HamTalk Live Ham Radio Joke of the Week is

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brought to you by QRM Labs. Now here's Rick Garrett

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in 9GSU with today's HamTalk Live Joke of the

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Week. I decided I wanted to protect my ham shack

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when I was away so I bought a couple of dogs.

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I named them Rolex and Timex because, well, they're

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watch dogs. This has been the Ham Talk Live.

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Ham radio joke of the week with Rick Garrett

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in 9GSU. Tune in again next week for another

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joke from Rick. Welcome back to Ham Talk Live.

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We're here with Don Wilbanks, AE5DW from Amateur

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Radio Newsline and Ham Nation and whatever else

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they let him do. And we're here with the 2022...

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Bill Pasternak Memorial, WA6ITF amateur radio

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news line, Young Ham of the Year, Audrey McElroy

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came for BUN from Cumming, Georgia. Audrey, I

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know what you've done with Ham Radio and you've

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been actively involved in a lot of things. that

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not everybody may know. So I'm gonna play dumb

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here and say, what are your big interests in

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ham radio and what have you been doing to promote

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the hobby as well? Okay, so that's kind of a

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big question to answer. Pretty much I started

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amateur radio as someone who loved to talk on

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the radio and just liked to make contact with

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people. But over the past four years, I would

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say, I got more involved into the other aspects

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of amateur radio like high altitude ballooning

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and satellites. And so really what it's narrowed

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down to was I got really interested in ballooning

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and I got involved with Carol Perry, WB2MGP.

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She's a wonderful woman. I wish she could be

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here, but she got... she invited me to do some

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presentations and so I did these little presentations

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with the Q So Today, Ham Expos and stuff like

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that and I started promoting not only integrating

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amateur radio and how -to -blooning and all that

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fun stuff but also getting more youth involved

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and a lot of women involved into this because

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that's really what we need to carry on and so

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I've been You know, pushing that and I'm really

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excited to continue, you know, doing experimentation

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on my own with altitude ballooning but also getting

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the word out about more women in STEM and youth

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in amateur radio. Now one of your big things

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has been the ballooning. You've done some high

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altitude balloons, you've done mid -altitude

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balloons and your most recent one was a big one

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with a live experiment on it. So tell us a little

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bit about the senior project. Okay, so I go to,

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well I just graduated from a STEM high school

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and part of the requirements to graduate with

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STEM honors was to complete a capstone project.

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And so most kids were like, yeah I'm gonna do

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this little project, I'm gonna do this. And I

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came in saying, I'm gonna do this massive big

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project. So basically I was integrating a HAB

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launch, the typical big latex balloon launch,

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about six foot diameter balloon. And my whole

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thing was I'm going to launch a sample of C.

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elegans, which is a little sample of little round

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worms, tiny, tiny little ones, only about a millimeter

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long at best, up into the high atmosphere and

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see how they react to those high atmosphere conditions

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at low pressure, low temperature, and increased

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radiation. And so I got involved with a professor

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here at UAH, and we got talking about radiation

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and all that, and so he helped me a lot. And

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so I ended up developing this project. So it

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was a typical HAB, but it had that biological

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component. And we launched it and we covered

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it over in rural Georgia. And to simplify the

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results, we did find a slight correlation with

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the worms that had been exposed to the high altitude

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conditions. and a increase in reproduction rate.

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So that was kind of cool. We had an almost significant

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p -value. I will go with that. All right, there

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we go. Yeah, significant enough for those of

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you who know statistics at home, or as Dave Letterman

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used to say, statistics. Yes. So what was the

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ham radio aspect of this project? Okay, so that

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was the biggest aspect, kind of integrating all

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that. To give a little preface to this, I got

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involved with Phil Brown, who is, I guess, one

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of the forefront people you see in HABs and amateur

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radio. And I had been working with him over the

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years, and so by the time I got around to doing

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this project a few months ago, I was like, I

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think I'm ready to do this. And so we integrated,

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we pretty much had a few aspects going on here.

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We had a few 70 centimeter beacons working just

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for short range location of the payload. after

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it falls because that's the hardest part. The

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hardest part is not getting it up there. It's

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recovering after it falls into the Georgia pine

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trees. And then secondly, we had a stratotracker

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set up that was sending out APRS beacons and

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so we were able to get that data. So that's how

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we recorded some of our data with how high it

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traveled and how far it traveled and all that

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stuff. So that was fun doing that and integrating

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it a little bit with biology and so it was a

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big amateur radio -biological project. some very

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cool stuff and Audrey's done a lot of that. She's

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worked with Yoda getting the balloon launches

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planned. We still haven't been able to get you

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there because you're so too busy with everything

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else. Like a lot of young people, talented in

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so many ways that there's only so many weeks

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in the summer. She's been actively involved in

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getting the preparation work done for that. She's

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done a lot with recruitment and trying to get

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other people involved. So we're just really glad

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to see you get this award today. It's well deserved.

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you're going to walk out of here with a bunch

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of cool stuff. So I always tell everybody that

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you need to bring a wheelbarrow with you to get

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all the stuff. Don, let's talk a little bit more

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about what the Newsline committee saw in Audrey

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as far as her talents and abilities for her to

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be chosen for this award. Well, I am not part

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of the judging committee I I the the the applications

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come into our our email and so I look at them

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and From what I could see just from my untrained

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Uncalibrated mark one eyeball She was Way above

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everybody else And, obviously, they saw that

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as well. I wish Rich Mosison could be here to

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tell you exactly what the judges committee saw

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from the inside. We're going to miss that, unfortunately,

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this year, but perhaps he'll write about that

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in the editors' column in CQ Magazine, because

00:24:06.819 --> 00:24:11.539
every year, it's almost like the bar gets set

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higher and higher and higher every year. It's

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like, okay, we can't find a more impressive kid

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next year, but yet we always do find a more impressive

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kid. And I use the term kid just because that

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was Bill Pasternak's always. His pet phrase was,

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the kid. We're going to do the kid this year.

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So remembering our good friend Bill. But yeah,

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it's more impressive. Like I said, these are

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the people that are going to be running the world.

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And we're all going to be just fine. And sitting

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here listening to everything that she's done,

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I feel like I've... Should be off in the corner

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eating my crayons again, you know, it's Just

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a very impressive young lady and I'm in awe of

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her and all of our previous young hams. I really

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am just This is my favorite part of the hobby

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right now Audrey I actually had the pleasure

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of visiting the McElroy lab In the basement of

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your home. So talk a little bit about the lab

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and how that's helped you and the support of

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your parents to get you to today. Yeah, I know.

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I can't continue without saying that if it wasn't

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for my parents, my support of my mom, K4PRM,

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and my dad, W4SCR. I wouldn't be here today.

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They're so supportive. And yeah, as you said,

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the lab in our basement is pretty expansive.

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And that's just the product of pretty much my

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dad has been involved in electrical engineering

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for decades and decades now. And so it's kind

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of stuff that he's amassed and that he's saved

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for us to use. And getting into the world amateur

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radio, it was the both of them who felt that,

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you know, they needed to get licensed. And so

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they did. And I saw them getting licensed and

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I saw what they were doing. I said, I think I

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need to do that too. And so if it wasn't you

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know for them I wouldn't be here today. Well

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said and yeah it's uh it was great to come see

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all the stuff that you were working on and and

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see all that stuff and then we then we got doused

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by the rain and the rain the rain set and everything

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but but Don if you don't know I was visiting

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Audrey the day before we left from the honeymoon.

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So, you know, it was already, you know, really?

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You're doing ham radio? the honeymoon and then

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we actually get the real honeymoon in this year

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and I take the aero antenna and make some satellite

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contacts which by the way did earn a couple of

00:26:52.170 --> 00:26:56.109
people their DXCC so I was very happy about that

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being able to to do that for a couple of people

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but I don't know I'm still trying to figure out

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how I'm how I'm still married after you know,

00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:14.519
visiting Audrey and Jack's lab on the honeymoon.

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Yeah, I imagine that filled out your wish list

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considerably. Well, you and I have saints for

00:27:19.740 --> 00:27:23.660
wives. I mean, your wife married a ham, so she

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kind of had an inkling of what she was getting

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into. Dawn and I will celebrate our 38th. next

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year and I got my license, so we were married

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in 84 and I got my license in 95 so she had nine

00:27:35.809 --> 00:27:38.250
years to get used to me and my quirkiness before

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I sprung this whole ham radio jazz on her which

00:27:40.930 --> 00:27:43.150
she figured would just be oh great it's the hobby

00:27:43.150 --> 00:27:44.769
of the week he'll do this for a month and then

00:27:44.769 --> 00:27:46.710
we'll be on to whatever the next big thing is

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and we were talking last night and we've had

00:27:49.430 --> 00:27:52.630
this conversation over the over the years how

00:27:52.630 --> 00:27:58.079
much This hobby has changed our lives for the

00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:00.880
better the cool things that we've been able to

00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:04.299
experience through this hobby and the cool people

00:28:04.299 --> 00:28:07.259
that we've been able to meet and befriend through

00:28:07.259 --> 00:28:10.319
this hobby and You know, she came just within

00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:12.339
a hair's breadth of getting her license back

00:28:12.339 --> 00:28:17.099
20 years ago. She passed her novice written that

00:28:17.099 --> 00:28:20.900
night, and she hadn't quite studied enough for

00:28:20.900 --> 00:28:22.819
the tech part because she got hung up on the

00:28:22.819 --> 00:28:24.700
fact that, oh, it's the novice test. Well, the

00:28:24.700 --> 00:28:26.619
novice, that's a beginner and that's easy, and

00:28:26.619 --> 00:28:28.519
okay, well, it's the technician test, and ooh,

00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:31.160
that's technician, that's technical, that's gonna

00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:33.299
be harder. And I tried to tell her, no, it's

00:28:33.299 --> 00:28:35.200
just like in Europe, it's A, B, C, and D, it's

00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:39.319
just a name. And she missed her tech. by one

00:28:39.319 --> 00:28:41.500
or two questions three times in a row and at

00:28:41.500 --> 00:28:45.019
that point she just said check please and but

00:28:45.019 --> 00:28:49.500
when I was teaching Tyler the radio we had dad's

00:28:49.500 --> 00:28:52.539
big ham radio class at the kitchen table and

00:28:52.539 --> 00:28:54.680
so she was overhearing all this watching TV in

00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:57.440
the living room and she's like you know about

00:28:57.440 --> 00:29:00.240
80 % of the stuff you're teaching him I knew

00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:05.920
the answers to. Get your license. There are spots

00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:09.660
available. Dad's big ham radio class at the kitchen

00:29:09.660 --> 00:29:12.680
table for you whenever you're ready. So maybe

00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.579
one time. But yeah, I know we have saints. Any

00:29:15.579 --> 00:29:18.880
ham who has a non -ham wife has a saint for a

00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:23.619
wife. Yeah, I definitely do. But it was like,

00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:28.500
okay, the McElroys are across town. We're actually

00:29:28.500 --> 00:29:32.410
in the same town. We, you know, we have to go

00:29:32.410 --> 00:29:38.529
visit, you know, it's just we had to so but It

00:29:38.529 --> 00:29:44.450
gave me kind of an inside perspective on what

00:29:44.450 --> 00:29:48.710
Tom's been doing with Jack and with Audrey because

00:29:48.710 --> 00:29:53.630
I saw the projects, I saw what they were working

00:29:53.630 --> 00:30:00.710
on and I'm glad we did that because it was very

00:30:00.710 --> 00:30:06.650
insightful. Now, speaking of accommodating wives

00:30:06.650 --> 00:30:10.329
and amateur radio, on your wedding, at your wedding,

00:30:10.829 --> 00:30:12.569
while we're sitting out in the venue getting

00:30:12.569 --> 00:30:15.910
ready for you and Julie to walk down the aisle

00:30:15.910 --> 00:30:21.509
and be hitched together in wedded bliss, I presented

00:30:21.509 --> 00:30:25.400
the 2020 Young Hem of the Year Award at your

00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:27.960
wedding. Now you tell me how much of a accommodating

00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:32.220
wife that is. She's a saint. You are the luckiest

00:30:32.220 --> 00:30:34.700
man on the planet. Perhaps, perhaps, you and

00:30:34.700 --> 00:30:38.160
I, one in one A, you and me with Dawn and Julie,

00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:41.039
so yeah. Yeah, she's the best, dude. You lucked

00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:44.839
out. Yeah, I definitely did. I definitely did.

00:30:44.940 --> 00:30:48.390
Yeah, that was a... the year that COVID shut

00:30:48.390 --> 00:30:51.609
everything down. And so we all figured out, oh,

00:30:51.630 --> 00:30:53.190
hey, we're all going to be in the same place

00:30:53.190 --> 00:30:56.990
at the same time. So I'm glad it worked out.

00:30:57.130 --> 00:30:59.210
I'm glad that we did it. And I'm glad it was

00:30:59.210 --> 00:31:02.569
before the wedding and not after, because then

00:31:02.569 --> 00:31:06.009
that might've pushed it over the edge just a

00:31:06.009 --> 00:31:09.309
little bit. Well, I mean, you know, listen, I've

00:31:09.309 --> 00:31:11.250
survived this long with her. I know what it takes.

00:31:11.309 --> 00:31:13.029
So I'm not going to put you in that position.

00:31:16.029 --> 00:31:26.230
So Audrey, we'll finish up here. Have you any

00:31:26.230 --> 00:31:31.769
interests outside of ham radio yet with Georgia

00:31:31.769 --> 00:31:35.549
Tech? Or do you have anything else in the works?

00:31:36.750 --> 00:31:40.849
Yeah, so besides W4AQL, I'm heavily, well I'm

00:31:40.849 --> 00:31:42.490
planning to get heavily involved in the women

00:31:42.490 --> 00:31:44.630
at ECE, Women in Electrical and Computer Engineering,

00:31:44.769 --> 00:31:46.910
and the Society of Women Engineering, because

00:31:46.910 --> 00:31:48.690
I'm really big, once again I'm pushing women

00:31:48.690 --> 00:31:52.089
into STEM and making that world very appealing

00:31:52.089 --> 00:31:55.190
for more women. I'm also involved in music. I'm

00:31:55.190 --> 00:31:56.589
not part of the marching band, I was in marching

00:31:56.589 --> 00:31:58.890
band in high school, but I'm looking forward

00:31:58.890 --> 00:32:00.970
to getting involved maybe in some ensembles and

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stuff. I play clarinet and the guitar, so I'm

00:32:03.250 --> 00:32:07.039
excited for all of that. Very cool. Well, thank

00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:10.160
you so much for taking time out here at Huntsville

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to talk with us and have a safe trip back home

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and get to your convocation in the morning. And

00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:22.839
congratulations on winning the 2022 Young Ham

00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:26.519
of the Year Award and make Jack help you carry

00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:30.539
all this loot. Oh yeah, he'll definitely be carrying

00:32:30.539 --> 00:32:32.400
it. He will. He's old enough. He's bigger than

00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:36.849
me now, so he can do it. Yeah, pack mule jack,

00:32:36.990 --> 00:32:41.210
Don says. So, and Don, thanks for stopping by

00:32:41.210 --> 00:32:45.250
and you've got a booth around the corner here.

00:32:45.630 --> 00:32:47.930
We do, yeah. For the first time, the Amateur

00:32:47.930 --> 00:32:50.190
Radio Newsline has a booth that's right behind

00:32:50.190 --> 00:32:52.849
Gigaparts. And yeah, we're excited about that.

00:32:52.869 --> 00:32:54.490
So I'm going to be hanging out there and going

00:32:54.490 --> 00:32:56.589
to do a little bit of walking around the place.

00:32:56.869 --> 00:32:59.690
It's going to be nice to have a home to go in

00:32:59.690 --> 00:33:02.690
and sit down and take a load off. It's something

00:33:02.690 --> 00:33:04.990
we haven't had. All the years have been coming

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here. So yeah, very excited about that. Skeeter

00:33:06.849 --> 00:33:09.509
Nash and his lovely wife, Sweetie, are over there

00:33:09.509 --> 00:33:12.369
hanging out. So it's Skeety and Sweetie. They're

00:33:12.369 --> 00:33:15.950
in the booth. All right. Well, thanks so much

00:33:15.950 --> 00:33:19.170
for being here and thank you all for listening

00:33:19.170 --> 00:33:23.690
and we'll do it again soon. So for now, this

00:33:23.690 --> 00:33:28.349
is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, saying 7 -3, 7 -5, and

00:33:28.349 --> 00:33:35.359
may the good DX be yours. To you and your family

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I'll be seeing you further down the road
