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Hello 00:00:57.390 --> 00:01:01.570 everyone out there! in cyberspace this is ham 00:01:01.570 --> 00:01:06.049 talk live episode number 305 jamboree on the 00:01:06.049 --> 00:01:09.629 air and jamboree on the internet 2022 recorded 00:01:09.629 --> 00:01:14.930 on monday september 26 2022 i'm your host neil 00:01:14.930 --> 00:01:19.629 wrapp wb9 vpg and thank you for tuning into this 00:01:19.629 --> 00:01:25.230 episode of ham talk kind of live tonight we're 00:01:25.230 --> 00:01:30.989 joined by bill sterns NE4RD and last episode, 00:01:31.109 --> 00:01:34.489 the Malusi Brothers were here to talk about the 00:01:34.489 --> 00:01:37.510 Collegiate QSO party. So if you missed that show, 00:01:37.530 --> 00:01:41.390 you can listen anytime over at HamTalkLive .com 00:01:41.390 --> 00:01:44.290 or on your favorite podcast app or on YouTube 00:01:44.290 --> 00:01:47.590 if you prefer, or you can catch the rebroadcast 00:01:47.590 --> 00:01:56.640 over on WTWW Shortwave. 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Tonight, Bill Stearns in E4RD 00:04:55.230 --> 00:04:57.930 joins us on the Orlando Amateur Radio Club and 00:04:57.930 --> 00:05:01.490 hamcation Zoom line. Bill is the national jamboree 00:05:01.490 --> 00:05:05.910 on the air task force chairman. He lives in Billings, 00:05:05.930 --> 00:05:08.509 Montana with his wife and three children and 00:05:08.509 --> 00:05:11.769 his life member of the A RL and the president 00:05:11.769 --> 00:05:17.110 of the K2 BSA amateur radio association. He's 00:05:17.110 --> 00:05:19.750 active in stateside contesting with the big sky 00:05:19.750 --> 00:05:23.250 contesters and a sky Warren with Yellowstone 00:05:23.250 --> 00:05:26.829 County Aries. And he is a software and systems 00:05:26.829 --> 00:05:31.060 engineer, podcaster, and. Generally a nerdy guy. 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:33.699 You can also find him over on the Linux in the 00:05:33.699 --> 00:05:36.899 ham shack where he's been a co -host since May 00:05:36.899 --> 00:05:42.139 of 2016 and Also work with him on amateur radio 00:05:42.139 --> 00:05:46.019 news line from time to time on some radio scouting 00:05:46.019 --> 00:05:49.819 stuff So bill good to talk to you again. I think 00:05:49.819 --> 00:05:54.220 I've seen you since The last time we talked on 00:05:54.220 --> 00:05:59.139 the show Yeah, probably. I believe we ran into 00:05:59.139 --> 00:06:02.240 each other at Hamvention. That was the last time. 00:06:02.740 --> 00:06:09.120 Yeah. We've had a, we've had a brief, well, not 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:12.040 so brief pause on a lot of things in the last 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:15.540 few years. So, uh, it was good to, good to see 00:06:15.540 --> 00:06:20.899 you at, at Dayton, but, um, it's, it's been, 00:06:21.019 --> 00:06:23.600 I think, I think it was 2019 was the last time 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:27.459 we had you on. Yeah, it's probably been that 00:06:27.459 --> 00:06:30.600 long since we had a lot to talk about. We all 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:34.100 know what the world went through over those few 00:06:34.100 --> 00:06:37.439 years and the activity that we're talking about 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:39.740 today, of course, is Jambri on the air and Jambri 00:06:39.740 --> 00:06:43.300 on the internet. And it's still continued through 00:06:43.300 --> 00:06:47.379 COVID, obviously with a reduced footprint around 00:06:47.379 --> 00:06:51.000 the world due to various restrictions and local 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:52.899 restrictions, depending upon where you lived 00:06:52.899 --> 00:06:55.620 in the world. you know, you couldn't get a gathering 00:06:55.620 --> 00:06:58.259 of people together and stuff like that. So it 00:06:58.259 --> 00:07:00.220 really kind of, you know, especially Jamboree 00:07:00.220 --> 00:07:02.699 on the air side really kind of, you know, kind 00:07:02.699 --> 00:07:06.939 of took a little backseat for a few years. And 00:07:06.939 --> 00:07:09.040 we're really hoping to see that pick up. I know 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:13.100 I've gotten a lot of emails kind of leading up 00:07:13.100 --> 00:07:17.019 to this next Jamboree, which are Jamboree on 00:07:17.019 --> 00:07:19.819 the air, which of course is taking place really, 00:07:19.819 --> 00:07:22.600 really soon here in October the 14th through 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:26.060 the 16th. So it's always that, uh, I believe 00:07:26.060 --> 00:07:28.439 it's that third weekend. I'm already going to 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:31.939 forget what I'm supposed to say, right? Third 00:07:31.939 --> 00:07:38.660 full weekend. October. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, we're 00:07:38.660 --> 00:07:42.189 real excited to see, uh, I got, uh, We allow 00:07:42.189 --> 00:07:46.589 people to borrow the K2BSA call sign and use 00:07:46.589 --> 00:07:48.810 that for their event portable in their areas. 00:07:49.290 --> 00:07:52.329 And we've got pretty much everywhere except for 00:07:52.329 --> 00:07:54.689 the Northeast. The one, twos, and threes haven't 00:07:54.689 --> 00:07:58.199 been taken yet, but we're going to have. a K2BSA 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:02.120 call sign portable everywhere from four through 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:04.519 nine and zero, of course. And then we also have 00:08:04.519 --> 00:08:09.379 a KL7 that will be active in Alaska. Plus we'll 00:08:09.379 --> 00:08:11.319 have a whole bunch of other stations, because 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:15.600 this is the world's largest digital scout event 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:18.199 taking place on the internet and over the airwaves. 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:21.240 And the jamboree on the air, of course, is not 00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:24.699 just a US event. It is a world event. It's organized. 00:08:24.910 --> 00:08:27.990 by the World Organization of Scouting Movement. 00:08:28.829 --> 00:08:31.529 And they have their own website there for Jamboree 00:08:31.529 --> 00:08:33.509 and Jamboree on the Air and Jamboree on the Internet. 00:08:34.029 --> 00:08:40.549 And that's that jota .info, J -O -T -A -J -O 00:08:40.549 --> 00:08:44.409 -T -I .info. And, of course, that's where you'll 00:08:44.409 --> 00:08:47.750 sign in and register your station and your activities 00:08:47.750 --> 00:08:49.570 and what you're actually going to be doing during 00:08:49.570 --> 00:08:52.570 the Jamboree on the Air event. So definitely 00:08:52.570 --> 00:08:56.289 get over there, log in, sign up, sign in, and 00:08:56.289 --> 00:08:58.750 they'll also collect your after action reports 00:08:58.750 --> 00:09:02.529 for the event. And hopefully we'll get some good 00:09:02.529 --> 00:09:04.450 reporting and good numbers out of it this year. 00:09:04.730 --> 00:09:08.070 I know as we were just talking before the show 00:09:08.070 --> 00:09:12.149 that we haven't been able to generate a good. 00:09:12.379 --> 00:09:16.179 after action report for Jamboree on the air since 00:09:16.179 --> 00:09:20.559 2019 due to some collection mechanisms and of 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:23.899 course, COVID going on. So hopefully this year 00:09:23.899 --> 00:09:26.840 we'll be able to put out a nice report with some 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:29.299 numbers and we'll kind of see where we're at 00:09:29.299 --> 00:09:33.940 post pandemic. Yeah, it's interesting to see 00:09:33.940 --> 00:09:37.419 how that's going. And I know a lot of the restrictions 00:09:37.419 --> 00:09:42.950 even outside of the US are starting to dwindle 00:09:42.950 --> 00:09:47.070 and we'll see how that all plays out. But it's 00:09:47.070 --> 00:09:49.490 great to hear that you'll have some groups back 00:09:49.490 --> 00:09:54.029 on the air again. I know you could do some individuals, 00:09:54.049 --> 00:09:57.929 but that's kind of hard to do with a whole crew 00:09:57.929 --> 00:10:00.990 of scouts and probably not all of them licensed. 00:10:01.549 --> 00:10:05.289 So it'll be great to get them on the air again. 00:10:05.330 --> 00:10:08.450 Of course, it's always butted up against school 00:10:08.450 --> 00:10:10.509 club roundup, so there'll be plenty of young 00:10:10.509 --> 00:10:16.419 people on. that week in October so make sure 00:10:16.419 --> 00:10:20.440 you check that out as well but you mentioned 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:24.340 the website there is a registration process so 00:10:24.340 --> 00:10:28.120 for anybody out there that's wanting to get involved 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:32.960 with getting scouts on the air what's your recommendation? 00:10:34.250 --> 00:10:37.230 Yeah, so definitely register what you're doing. 00:10:37.990 --> 00:10:41.470 And we do get this question and talk back every 00:10:41.470 --> 00:10:45.629 year about how do I make my Jamboree on the Air 00:10:45.629 --> 00:10:49.289 event successful? And if you're just planning 00:10:49.289 --> 00:10:54.809 it now, it probably is not going to be. On our 00:10:54.809 --> 00:10:57.870 website, the k2bsa .net website, you can find 00:10:57.870 --> 00:11:02.529 a whole slew of Jamboree on the Air resources. 00:11:03.100 --> 00:11:06.519 from a countdown calendar that provides you sort 00:11:06.519 --> 00:11:08.620 of like, you know, month by month, how you should 00:11:08.620 --> 00:11:12.039 kind of plan your event. And this is an event 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:14.519 that anybody can participate in. You do not have 00:11:14.519 --> 00:11:16.759 to have scouts there to actually participate. 00:11:16.940 --> 00:11:19.360 You can participate, you know, fully on your 00:11:19.360 --> 00:11:22.860 own as an amateur. You can contact scouts, talk 00:11:22.860 --> 00:11:24.960 about your scouting history if you have any, 00:11:25.259 --> 00:11:27.580 and just talk about amateur radio and goodwill 00:11:27.580 --> 00:11:30.799 like we're supposed to do during the event. But 00:11:30.799 --> 00:11:33.100 let's say you do are planning an event where 00:11:33.100 --> 00:11:34.659 you're going to have scouts. Of course, you have 00:11:34.659 --> 00:11:37.340 to follow all the youth protection guidelines 00:11:37.340 --> 00:11:40.340 of too deep leadership and all that other stuff 00:11:40.340 --> 00:11:44.460 that is required for the safety of minors. And 00:11:44.460 --> 00:11:48.539 how do you make it successful? Well, a lot of 00:11:48.539 --> 00:11:51.799 people think if they have a club and we have 00:11:51.799 --> 00:11:54.419 a club station and we just set up in a park or 00:11:54.419 --> 00:11:56.860 maybe at the clubhouse that that's going to be 00:11:56.860 --> 00:11:59.259 successful. We just invite scouts to come to 00:11:59.259 --> 00:12:03.129 us. And if they don't show up, we don't know 00:12:03.129 --> 00:12:06.929 what we did wrong. But the way you really make 00:12:06.929 --> 00:12:09.710 it successful is you go to where the scouts are 00:12:09.710 --> 00:12:11.649 going to be. And that's the part of the planning 00:12:11.649 --> 00:12:14.509 that we really talk with people about is that 00:12:14.509 --> 00:12:17.690 you need to be aware of the local scout calendar, 00:12:18.070 --> 00:12:21.029 whether that means your local troop, your local 00:12:21.029 --> 00:12:23.210 district, or your local council, depending upon 00:12:23.580 --> 00:12:26.700 how big you are, because some councils are, you 00:12:26.700 --> 00:12:31.179 know, small in a geographical area, like the 00:12:31.179 --> 00:12:34.059 Tampa, Florida area, even though I don't live 00:12:34.059 --> 00:12:36.379 there, it just comes to mind. There's multiple, 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:39.379 multiple councils. But in the state of Montana, 00:12:39.460 --> 00:12:42.320 there's one council here. So, you know, depending 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:44.399 upon where you're at geographically, the size 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:48.299 of those different structures of the hierarchy 00:12:48.299 --> 00:12:51.519 of scouting will be different. So you'll want 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:54.610 to be able to contact whatever group is closest 00:12:54.610 --> 00:12:58.269 or local to whatever you're trying to do and 00:12:58.269 --> 00:12:59.970 get their calendar. Find out what they're doing 00:12:59.970 --> 00:13:02.990 the weekend of the third weekend of October. 00:13:03.110 --> 00:13:04.669 Maybe they're at a camperee and they're having 00:13:04.669 --> 00:13:08.049 a camp out or maybe they're doing popcorn sales, 00:13:08.149 --> 00:13:10.789 which normally happens really close to the same 00:13:10.789 --> 00:13:12.929 time, which kind of does interfere with stuff. 00:13:13.049 --> 00:13:16.029 But if they're planning on having like an ice 00:13:16.029 --> 00:13:18.690 cream social on a big sale weekend, you know, 00:13:19.370 --> 00:13:22.710 a lot of times I see that happening and you can 00:13:22.710 --> 00:13:25.570 literally put a pop -up ham radio station at 00:13:25.570 --> 00:13:27.309 those events, you know, of course talk to them 00:13:27.309 --> 00:13:31.509 and get permission and show up. And normally 00:13:31.509 --> 00:13:36.029 if you bring the radio to the scouts, it's always 00:13:36.029 --> 00:13:40.750 a success, no matter what. That's the key to 00:13:40.750 --> 00:13:43.690 having an event work is going to where the scouts 00:13:43.690 --> 00:13:48.309 already are. So you can show amateur radio, build 00:13:48.309 --> 00:13:50.690 antennas, do all kinds of different activities, 00:13:51.350 --> 00:13:55.009 whatever you're planning. We have one group down 00:13:55.009 --> 00:13:57.590 in Texas that is telling me they're going to 00:13:57.590 --> 00:14:00.309 be launching a balloon with the K2BSA call sign 00:14:00.309 --> 00:14:03.440 on it. So I'm kind of excited to see that. So 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:05.080 we have given them permission to do that. And 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:07.279 they're also going to run a station down there 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:12.139 as K2BSA Portable 5 in Houston, Texas. We had 00:14:12.139 --> 00:14:16.639 a lot of interest this year out of Texas for 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:20.519 that five call sign. But we do assign it in order 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:24.159 of the reservations coming in. So the earlier 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:27.799 you reserve that K2BSA call sign for your calling 00:14:27.799 --> 00:14:30.179 area, the better. And if you're in the calling 00:14:30.179 --> 00:14:33.240 areas of one, two, or three, It's still available 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:35.840 for Jamboree on the air and Jamboree on the internet. 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:40.039 Ah, there you go. So if you're out there in New 00:14:40.039 --> 00:14:43.360 England, get in there and do it, but you're going 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:47.460 to have to hurry. Yeah. So one thing that they 00:14:47.460 --> 00:14:52.960 do with the world registration over there on 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:56.559 the jota .jodi .info site, it's always so hard 00:14:56.559 --> 00:15:00.919 to say, they do give you a Jam Puzz ID. And this 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:03.399 has been the same for several years now. And 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:08.779 it's an identifier that other groups are collecting. 00:15:09.469 --> 00:15:12.809 And so that's the key to getting the sign -ins 00:15:12.809 --> 00:15:15.429 over there and signing up because that registers 00:15:15.429 --> 00:15:18.190 you to receive that Jam Puzz ID that others are 00:15:18.190 --> 00:15:20.029 collecting. So it's kind of like a little mini 00:15:20.029 --> 00:15:22.750 game that's going on during, you know, Jambri 00:15:22.750 --> 00:15:25.190 on the air, Jambri on the internet. Because some 00:15:25.190 --> 00:15:27.350 groups won't be on the air at all. Some groups 00:15:27.350 --> 00:15:29.549 will just be on the internet doing things on, 00:15:29.549 --> 00:15:34.149 you know, Minecraft, IRC, Zoom and, you know, 00:15:34.309 --> 00:15:36.820 Skype and a whole bunch of other things. and 00:15:36.820 --> 00:15:38.600 then other groups will just be solely on the 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:41.179 air. But the one thing that threads them all 00:15:41.179 --> 00:15:44.399 together is this little mini game that you can 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:48.419 collect the IDs and then, yeah, if you go over 00:15:48.419 --> 00:15:50.980 to the national or the international site, you 00:15:50.980 --> 00:15:54.940 can find all that information out on their virtual 00:15:54.940 --> 00:15:57.120 camping ground there that they have, and they 00:15:57.120 --> 00:15:59.379 have all kinds of information and resources. 00:15:59.980 --> 00:16:02.980 uh, for you for those various, uh, items that 00:16:02.980 --> 00:16:05.379 they're doing, including promotional information. 00:16:05.379 --> 00:16:07.779 If you're looking for logos and stuff like that, 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:11.899 you can find all kinds of stuff there. And, uh, 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:14.659 yeah, yeah. Lots. It's always lots of stuff going 00:16:14.659 --> 00:16:18.440 on for Joe to Jody. It's just a huge event. It 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:22.159 is. And you know, it's funny, the more I work 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:25.500 with Yoda, the more I hear about Joda because. 00:16:25.980 --> 00:16:28.100 It's like, Oh yeah, we will get the, you know, 00:16:28.100 --> 00:16:30.519 we get these scouts on the air and we, we, we 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:33.980 go out and set up and put them on the air. And 00:16:33.980 --> 00:16:35.960 I'm like, Oh, that's, that's great. And then, 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:39.360 then once you get them going, then the, then 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:42.200 we'll keep them. Uh, we'll keep them in ham radio. 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:46.000 So it's a, it's a great recruiting thing. It's 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:49.279 a great exposure to get people on the air. And, 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:51.840 and, uh, you know, like, like so many people 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:54.360 say, you know, you never know when, you know, 00:16:54.360 --> 00:16:56.669 even if they don't get a. license if they grow 00:16:56.669 --> 00:16:59.370 up and end up being president of your HOA that 00:16:59.370 --> 00:17:02.570 can't hurt. Yeah. And a lot of people's first 00:17:02.570 --> 00:17:05.430 experience, you know, as scouts, uh, with amateur 00:17:05.430 --> 00:17:09.009 radio is, is Jamboree on the air. So, uh, I do 00:17:09.009 --> 00:17:12.009 find it, uh, fascinating that so many people, 00:17:12.369 --> 00:17:14.349 even in the ham radio community that, you know, 00:17:14.349 --> 00:17:15.950 just happened to be scouts, you know, they, the 00:17:15.950 --> 00:17:17.750 first time they remember being on the air was 00:17:17.750 --> 00:17:22.049 at Jamboree on the air. So, and, uh, this is 00:17:22.049 --> 00:17:25.549 the, uh, 64th. If I'm doing my math correctly, 00:17:25.690 --> 00:17:29.410 I believe they started in 1958. So this has been 00:17:29.410 --> 00:17:32.069 going on for quite a while and it's touched a 00:17:32.069 --> 00:17:34.630 lot of people's lives over the years. And even 00:17:34.630 --> 00:17:37.029 if you're not a scouter, you can still participate 00:17:37.029 --> 00:17:39.170 in Jamboree on the air, because you're going 00:17:39.170 --> 00:17:41.150 to hear people up there in the general portion 00:17:41.150 --> 00:17:44.710 of the bands talking and saying CQ Jota, CQ Jota. 00:17:45.049 --> 00:17:48.009 And yeah, don't be afraid to answer them back. 00:17:48.130 --> 00:17:50.170 I realize there's some contests going on. I think 00:17:50.170 --> 00:17:52.210 there's even a couple of QSO parties that goes 00:17:52.210 --> 00:17:55.730 on the same weekend. But yeah, don't be afraid 00:17:55.730 --> 00:17:59.349 to work them and give the Scouts a chat and you 00:17:59.349 --> 00:18:01.789 can tell them about your ham radio experience. 00:18:03.089 --> 00:18:05.029 And that's normally they find that kind of stuff 00:18:05.029 --> 00:18:09.769 interesting. It's always a big eye opening and 00:18:09.769 --> 00:18:13.369 big smile moment when these Scouts get on the 00:18:13.369 --> 00:18:16.170 air. put the microphone in front of them and 00:18:16.170 --> 00:18:20.769 say, here, have fun. I have a script, you know, 00:18:20.809 --> 00:18:22.410 you might get silly questions like, you know, 00:18:22.509 --> 00:18:24.490 what's your favorite color and stuff like that. 00:18:25.269 --> 00:18:27.630 But sometimes, yeah, you get somebody that's 00:18:27.630 --> 00:18:29.529 interested in it. And then maybe they want to 00:18:29.529 --> 00:18:32.750 take that next step and get a license and become 00:18:32.750 --> 00:18:35.210 part of the community. So it's always an opportunity 00:18:35.210 --> 00:18:39.440 to open up our ham radio community. To the youth 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:42.119 which obviously I mean you're directly involved 00:18:42.119 --> 00:18:45.500 in with youth on the air and we all know that 00:18:45.500 --> 00:18:49.160 it is a vital vital portion of the survivability 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:54.660 of the hobby Yeah, absolutely and it's it's something 00:18:54.660 --> 00:18:58.960 that I found, you know and working with youth 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:03.319 and just in general is Having that script so 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:06.319 that they have something to go off of and and 00:19:06.319 --> 00:19:09.319 so, you know You should be prepared to get those 00:19:09.319 --> 00:19:11.880 questions like what's your favorite color or 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:18.039 what's your school's mascot or those kinds of 00:19:18.039 --> 00:19:21.579 things and maybe even have some questions for 00:19:21.579 --> 00:19:25.400 the scouts thought up ahead of time. uh... you 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:27.539 know they like to talk about what they're doing 00:19:27.539 --> 00:19:31.059 that school what they're what uh... other curricular 00:19:31.059 --> 00:19:33.140 extracurricular things that they're involved 00:19:33.140 --> 00:19:37.079 in uh... what uh... maybe what merit badges or 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:39.819 what class they're working on in in scouting 00:19:39.819 --> 00:19:42.599 and so those might be some things that you can 00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:47.660 kinda prepare to to to ask uh... that they'll 00:19:47.660 --> 00:19:52.970 be able to answer a little easier Yeah, absolutely. 00:19:53.170 --> 00:19:55.750 And you could kind of get that idea from, again, 00:19:56.009 --> 00:19:59.470 the K2BSA website because we have some of those 00:19:59.470 --> 00:20:02.690 scripts available for Scouts. It's definitely 00:20:02.690 --> 00:20:05.589 in the guidelines for amateur radio operators 00:20:05.589 --> 00:20:08.190 and the JOTA guidelines for Scout leaders. You 00:20:08.190 --> 00:20:10.849 can find some real good information in both of 00:20:10.849 --> 00:20:15.250 those areas on how you can make your event successful, 00:20:15.250 --> 00:20:20.000 how to kind of get over the mic fright. We do 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:23.880 this, you know, this is like an annual practice 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:26.640 for a lot of us guys that are in the K -2 BSA 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:29.099 that do the national jamboree where we, you know, 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:32.140 have thousands and thousands of scouts come through 00:20:32.140 --> 00:20:34.559 the amateur radio tent and we get them, every 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:38.220 single one of them on the air. And yeah, it's 00:20:38.220 --> 00:20:41.119 definitely interesting at scale to see these 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:45.000 demonstration stations and how they work. And 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:47.400 some events are really small, you know, I've 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:51.539 set up in as small as a little canopy here in 00:20:51.539 --> 00:20:55.039 town in Billings and, you know, just a little 00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:57.940 park and had, you know, dozens of Scouts come 00:20:57.940 --> 00:21:01.279 over and that was a lot of fun. And, you know, 00:21:01.400 --> 00:21:03.279 your event could have hundreds of Scouts if you 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:05.819 go to a camperee or even, you know, 500 or a 00:21:05.819 --> 00:21:09.279 thousand. So, yeah, it all depends on how you 00:21:09.279 --> 00:21:11.859 set up and where you set up. how big your event 00:21:11.859 --> 00:21:17.019 will be, but the thing is it's just fun. That's 00:21:17.019 --> 00:21:19.119 what we always ask our scouts when they come 00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:22.440 to the meeting for the first time and ask them 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:25.140 what's the purpose of scouting? It's to have 00:21:25.140 --> 00:21:28.920 fun. And that's basically what we want to share 00:21:28.920 --> 00:21:31.319 as part of this Jamboree on the Air event as 00:21:31.319 --> 00:21:33.339 well, is we want to have fun and use amateur 00:21:33.339 --> 00:21:38.130 radio to do it and show people. how to talk on 00:21:38.130 --> 00:21:40.329 the radio and, and you know, hey, you could show 00:21:40.329 --> 00:21:43.710 them FTA if you want, but I don't think you'll 00:21:43.710 --> 00:21:45.789 get a lot of interest in clicking buttons and 00:21:45.789 --> 00:21:48.329 stuff like that. So definitely, you know, dust 00:21:48.329 --> 00:21:50.630 off the microphone. I know some of you I'm, you 00:21:50.630 --> 00:21:53.450 know, crossing me, you know, wiggling, wiggling 00:21:53.450 --> 00:21:56.750 my fingers at you. You can plug in the microphone 00:21:56.750 --> 00:22:01.269 just this one weekend and, and talk. It's fine. 00:22:01.309 --> 00:22:05.700 It won't hurt you either. It's kind of like getting 00:22:05.700 --> 00:22:07.940 on a Zoom meeting and turning on your camera. 00:22:10.519 --> 00:22:17.099 Exactly. Well, I love the suggestion of going 00:22:17.099 --> 00:22:20.420 to the Scouts and not just, you know, oh, hey, 00:22:20.420 --> 00:22:23.599 let's go set up a park and we'll, you know, tell 00:22:23.599 --> 00:22:27.960 everybody, you know, we're inviting Scouts. That, 00:22:27.960 --> 00:22:30.980 you know, some coordination definitely helps. 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:36.579 That's a great suggestion. So, all right. 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That's 00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:09.599 North Mobile, Alabama. You can visit them anytime 00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:38.259 at PL -259 .com. Welcome back to Ham Talk Live. 00:24:38.339 --> 00:24:41.359 Make sure you check us out on Facebook, Twitter, 00:24:41.539 --> 00:24:45.079 and Instagram. We'll let you know when new episodes 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.660 are coming your way. And we're going to talk 00:24:48.660 --> 00:24:55.920 with Bill Stearns in E4RD with the K2BSA. You're 00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:58.460 hearing just a little bit about Jamboree on the 00:24:58.460 --> 00:25:01.380 air and Jamboree on the internet. But before 00:25:01.380 --> 00:25:05.849 we do that, it is time once again for the N9GSU 00:25:05.849 --> 00:25:09.109 Joke of the Week. Now it's time for the HamTalk 00:25:09.109 --> 00:25:12.210 Live Ham Radio Joke of the Week, the part of 00:25:12.210 --> 00:25:15.049 the show where Rick tells us a ham radio joke. 00:25:15.349 --> 00:25:18.069 The HamTalk Live Ham Radio Joke of the Week is 00:25:18.069 --> 00:25:21.769 brought to you by QRM Labs. Now here's Rick Garrett, 00:25:22.089 --> 00:25:26.450 N9GSU, with today's HamTalk Live Joke of the 00:25:26.450 --> 00:25:33.829 Week. I think we'd all agree that ham radio is 00:25:33.829 --> 00:25:36.529 not a cheap hobby. I decided I needed a part 00:25:36.529 --> 00:25:39.289 -time job in order to fuel my addiction to ham 00:25:39.289 --> 00:25:41.930 radio, so I took a job at the clock factory. 00:25:42.089 --> 00:25:44.769 I got fired after about a week. Apparently, I 00:25:44.769 --> 00:26:00.500 was putting too many extra hours in. You know, 00:26:00.579 --> 00:26:03.619 well, there's just not enough hours in the day 00:26:03.619 --> 00:26:06.880 Gotta add those extra tech tick marks on the 00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:12.079 clock. Yes, exactly All right. Well, thanks Rick 00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:14.819 for the joke of the week and we're here with 00:26:14.819 --> 00:26:18.960 Bill Stearns any for RD with the K to BSA amateur 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:23.799 radio association and the upcoming Jamboree on 00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:26.380 the air and Jamboree on the internet, the third 00:26:26.380 --> 00:26:31.339 weekend of October. And, and I saw the new patch. 00:26:31.339 --> 00:26:34.339 It looks pretty sharp. Tell us about this year's 00:26:34.339 --> 00:26:37.859 patch. Yeah. So a national put together the patch, 00:26:37.859 --> 00:26:40.039 uh, this year as they have for the last couple 00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:42.900 of years. And, uh, yeah, it's, it's a really 00:26:42.900 --> 00:26:47.779 nice, uh, um, Sort of like a square with a rounded 00:26:47.779 --> 00:26:51.299 edge, one rounded corner. It's a very interesting 00:26:51.299 --> 00:26:53.839 shape and has all the symbols that you would 00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:56.779 normally see, a microphone, a mouse, an antenna 00:26:56.779 --> 00:26:59.660 tower, and a wifi symbol, but that's okay. We 00:26:59.660 --> 00:27:02.160 know how ham radio works. We're gonna use that 00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:04.859 tower and put some signal up in the air. But 00:27:04.859 --> 00:27:06.680 yeah, you can find the patch. It's available 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:10.900 from the Scout Shop. That's scoutshop .org. and 00:27:10.900 --> 00:27:14.420 that's the national scout shop for the Scouts 00:27:14.420 --> 00:27:18.440 BSA. You can find it if you just search for Jota 00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:22.980 2022 emblem. I believe they are running $3 .49 00:27:22.980 --> 00:27:26.640 a piece, and they are still in stock, which at 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:28.680 this point, that's pretty much a miracle, because 00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:32.200 normally they sell out pretty fast. They just 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:36.369 came out, I believe, about a month ago. So availability 00:27:36.369 --> 00:27:39.450 was a was then so yeah, if you want some patches 00:27:39.450 --> 00:27:41.910 for your group and you haven't ordered them yet 00:27:41.910 --> 00:27:45.549 So go right in and and order those patches because 00:27:45.549 --> 00:27:48.309 yeah, they do look sharp this year Yeah, they 00:27:48.309 --> 00:27:57.259 kind of look like Missouri So there you go. So, 00:27:57.259 --> 00:28:00.500 uh, so, so bill, I'm going to, I'm going to get 00:28:00.500 --> 00:28:03.279 my, my scout group on the air and I'm going to 00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:09.319 get on 14 .2 90, right? Oh, no, not 14 to 90. 00:28:10.619 --> 00:28:16.039 Well, I kind of said 7 ,200, but there is the 00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:18.740 myth and I call it the myth because I don't know, 00:28:18.740 --> 00:28:21.700 we've published it so many times that yes, there 00:28:21.700 --> 00:28:24.539 are the world organization for scout movement. 00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:29.700 calling frequencies. And as we all know, as amateurs 00:28:29.700 --> 00:28:33.759 with the two meter calling frequency, it means 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:36.539 you don't necessarily have to be on it, but you 00:28:36.539 --> 00:28:38.759 can establish your communication and move off 00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:42.599 of it. But what we do is we recommend that you 00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:45.079 kind of start in the general portion of the band, 00:28:45.099 --> 00:28:48.920 and that's where you move your nice big dial 00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:51.140 in front of that beautiful rig that you're going 00:28:51.140 --> 00:28:53.990 to show to the scouts here. Yeah, 14290, you're 00:28:53.990 --> 00:28:56.230 going to have some stations probably hammering 00:28:56.230 --> 00:28:58.390 each other, calling a CQ Jota on top of each 00:28:58.390 --> 00:29:02.009 other. So I highly recommend that you, you know, 00:29:02.250 --> 00:29:04.490 move the dial. That's what the dial is made for. 00:29:04.609 --> 00:29:06.589 You just kind of just jog it off to the right, 00:29:06.609 --> 00:29:08.910 you know, even just do a quick little spin and, 00:29:08.910 --> 00:29:11.089 you know, put yourself up there, you know, you 00:29:11.089 --> 00:29:14.410 know, in the 300 range, the 320 to 340 is a really 00:29:14.410 --> 00:29:17.190 good range too, especially for low power and 00:29:17.190 --> 00:29:20.180 portable operations and stuff like that. So don't 00:29:20.180 --> 00:29:23.680 be afraid to kind of tune around and look for 00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:26.539 a clear spot and just call CQ. That's the best 00:29:26.539 --> 00:29:30.880 way to do it. If you stay on 290, you will run 00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:34.539 into some QRM from other groups that are possibly 00:29:34.539 --> 00:29:39.819 having some inexperienced hams on HF. It's not 00:29:39.819 --> 00:29:43.759 uncommon. We do a lot of training every year 00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:47.059 for every four years for the National Jamboree 00:29:47.059 --> 00:29:51.019 to get our HF operators up to speed on how to 00:29:51.019 --> 00:29:52.900 kind of really control the frequency and stuff 00:29:52.900 --> 00:29:54.859 like that. But when it comes to Jamboree on the 00:29:54.859 --> 00:29:57.440 air, all bets are off because you're going to 00:29:57.440 --> 00:29:59.680 have every skill level of HF operator out there, 00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:02.319 especially in the HF areas. Now there are some 00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:05.539 other alternatives besides HF. A lot of people 00:30:05.539 --> 00:30:09.079 just get on EchoLink. EchoLink's a great option 00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:13.000 to try out if you still want to do voice. And 00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:17.279 obviously you can do that with the internet. 00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:20.819 So you don't even need RF, but you could go RF 00:30:20.819 --> 00:30:23.839 and connect up to the conference node called 00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:29.279 star JOTA -365 star. So that's the conference 00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:31.140 node. I don't have the number, but everybody 00:30:31.140 --> 00:30:34.940 looks it up by name anyways. So yeah, it's JOTA 00:30:34.940 --> 00:30:40.599 -365. You can find that available. And normally 00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:42.220 that's a lot of people who would connect from 00:30:42.220 --> 00:30:44.440 all over the world on that. But you do have to 00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:48.299 take your turn when you're on that. Another option 00:30:48.299 --> 00:30:53.980 is over on D -Star, Reflector 033A. So Reflector 00:30:53.980 --> 00:30:58.740 033A is a very popular radio scouting D -Star 00:30:58.740 --> 00:31:02.000 reflector. We have had lots of success using 00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:05.839 that over the years. Let's see, what else we 00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:09.079 have? There's many talk groups over on the DMR 00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:11.779 Brandmeister. I don't know. I don't know many 00:31:11.779 --> 00:31:15.599 of them offhand thinking like 907 comes to mind. 00:31:15.980 --> 00:31:18.299 So there are some talk groups over there. You 00:31:18.299 --> 00:31:21.160 can search it up, I believe, through the through 00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:24.720 the website for Brandmeister. You can just search 00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:27.180 for Jota and you'll probably find a bunch of 00:31:27.180 --> 00:31:29.259 them there. A lot of people have been having 00:31:29.259 --> 00:31:31.400 some success using that because there's just 00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:33.500 obviously so many people participating in that. 00:31:34.820 --> 00:31:39.079 Let's see, what else? Think about using some 00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:42.380 modes where if you want to do digital, and we 00:31:42.380 --> 00:31:46.640 do get the people that want to do digital. You 00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:52.039 remember this thing called BPSK? Back when we 00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:54.839 used to just type and hit the transmit button, 00:31:55.119 --> 00:32:01.720 or maybe even ready. I've worked a few BPSK 31. 00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:08.079 during Jota and have had some really fun conversations, 00:32:08.380 --> 00:32:11.339 just typing conversations. I don't really recommend 00:32:11.339 --> 00:32:15.359 it, but if you want to try it, it is kind of 00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:19.359 nostalgic now because hardly anybody is on there. 00:32:20.140 --> 00:32:22.559 So it might be something interesting to show 00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:25.720 if you wanted to show live typing as opposed 00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:28.480 to FT8. I mean, you can always show FT8 as kind 00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.700 of like an ancillary thing. A lot of people get 00:32:31.700 --> 00:32:35.180 kicks out of the mapping thing, the grid tracker 00:32:35.180 --> 00:32:37.160 and stuff like that, all the bells and whistles 00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:39.319 and stuff like that. I think it's mostly us as 00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:42.380 ham radio people, we like that stuff. The kids 00:32:42.380 --> 00:32:46.140 probably don't really get it so much. Not going 00:32:46.140 --> 00:32:49.639 to carry on much of a conversation there. Yeah, 00:32:49.639 --> 00:32:53.579 exactly. So, and, you know, if you do get on 00:32:53.579 --> 00:32:55.440 HF and you're working some DX and let's hope 00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:58.559 that these band conditions improve and we're 00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:00.900 not totally wiped out by solar storms or stuff 00:33:00.900 --> 00:33:04.640 like that, you know, have a conversation with 00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:06.140 them, you know, and they say, oh, you know, you 00:33:06.140 --> 00:33:08.519 talk to, you know, Europe or something like that. 00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:10.819 Well, I can do that on my phone. You know, what 00:33:10.819 --> 00:33:12.849 I always tell them to do is, you know, Put your 00:33:12.849 --> 00:33:16.390 phone in airplane mode and try to do it. Because 00:33:16.390 --> 00:33:18.730 you can't do it without the trillions of dollars 00:33:18.730 --> 00:33:21.470 of infrastructure between you and Europe. But 00:33:21.470 --> 00:33:24.230 like that little piece of wire, that vertical 00:33:24.230 --> 00:33:27.269 antenna that somebody has here on your station 00:33:27.269 --> 00:33:30.250 is doing it without anything else in between. 00:33:30.549 --> 00:33:32.490 It's the magic of ham radio and the magic of 00:33:32.490 --> 00:33:35.230 wireless communications. And that's what we're 00:33:35.230 --> 00:33:40.750 showing. Well, absolutely. Well said. And if 00:33:40.750 --> 00:33:44.019 you're on HF, you don't Have to be even on 20 00:33:44.019 --> 00:33:47.180 meters. Oh, yeah, there's all kinds of bands. 00:33:47.180 --> 00:33:49.500 You just press the band button up and down. It's 00:33:49.500 --> 00:33:55.599 amazing. It works. It works. It does. This up 00:33:55.599 --> 00:34:00.079 -down band thing. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. What about, 00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:05.019 okay, I got to ask because, you know, my latest 00:34:05.019 --> 00:34:09.349 mode is satellite. Any satellite activity? Well, 00:34:09.469 --> 00:34:11.769 there normally is, you know, you know how satellites 00:34:11.769 --> 00:34:14.610 work. It is a little bit faster pace. So it's 00:34:14.610 --> 00:34:18.630 not really an appropriate area for maybe a scout 00:34:18.630 --> 00:34:20.909 to actually make the contact, but it's a great 00:34:20.909 --> 00:34:24.969 demonstration. I've seen, you know, handheld, 00:34:25.150 --> 00:34:28.550 you know, satellite operations kind of go through 00:34:28.550 --> 00:34:31.989 just watching going through the motions. um and 00:34:31.989 --> 00:34:35.010 discussing exactly how this whole process works 00:34:35.010 --> 00:34:37.769 with the you know the satellite is is normally 00:34:37.769 --> 00:34:41.409 tumbling and that's what causes a lot of the 00:34:41.409 --> 00:34:43.429 the the warbliness of the signal and then you 00:34:43.429 --> 00:34:45.909 also have the the Doppler shifting you can talk 00:34:45.909 --> 00:34:48.929 about how the frequency changes as it's you know 00:34:48.929 --> 00:34:52.090 down low and then moves across and you know it's 00:34:52.090 --> 00:34:54.090 always kind of cool to show that you know handheld 00:34:54.090 --> 00:34:57.070 arrow or elk antenna or whatever you're using 00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:00.239 and maybe you have somebody demoing and holding 00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:02.019 the antenna and just pointing at the bird as 00:35:02.019 --> 00:35:05.380 it flies by. I think it's such a cool thing to 00:35:05.380 --> 00:35:09.500 watch, but it's not necessarily a cool thing 00:35:09.500 --> 00:35:12.780 to participate in, unless you're a radio guy. 00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:17.260 It's not real interactive with that, getting 00:35:17.260 --> 00:35:21.599 the scales on the air and maybe the repeater 00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:23.139 ones, you could probably get away with it because 00:35:23.139 --> 00:35:26.559 there's not as much that the user has to do. 00:35:27.130 --> 00:35:29.329 We're like the linear birds are more, you know, 00:35:29.429 --> 00:35:31.030 temperamental, even though we have all kinds 00:35:31.030 --> 00:35:33.550 of software and everything else to do all that 00:35:33.550 --> 00:35:36.329 stuff these days. I just, I don't think it's 00:35:36.329 --> 00:35:39.190 a great, you know, this is my only mode of satellite 00:35:39.190 --> 00:35:43.929 mode. It wouldn't be my go -to, but it's a beautiful 00:35:43.929 --> 00:35:46.030 thing to demonstrate. Same thing with balloons 00:35:46.030 --> 00:35:49.289 and amateur radio direction finding. It's a great 00:35:49.289 --> 00:35:51.949 opportunity to build some antennas. There's just 00:35:51.949 --> 00:35:54.050 so many activities you can kind of rope into 00:35:54.050 --> 00:35:58.380 it. Think about keeping it simple and making 00:35:58.380 --> 00:36:01.500 sure that you can actually deliver on everything 00:36:01.500 --> 00:36:04.440 that you put together. Because sometimes you 00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:06.579 just don't have enough volunteers to do everything. 00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:09.960 That's generally the case when you're planning 00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:12.920 events. You really have to staff up and have 00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.460 people around to do all these wonderful things 00:36:15.460 --> 00:36:19.539 that you want to do. But yeah, just do what you 00:36:19.539 --> 00:36:25.139 can do and execute and have fun. All right, so 00:36:25.139 --> 00:36:30.820 it's J -O -T -A J -O -T -I dot info and that's 00:36:30.820 --> 00:36:37.179 coming up October 14 15 and 16 on a radio and 00:36:37.179 --> 00:36:42.420 a Wifi node near you. So make sure you check 00:36:42.420 --> 00:36:46.000 out the Wifi, right? Yeah, plenty of Wifis. You 00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:48.739 know, it's 2 .4 and 5 gigahertz. That counts. 00:36:49.500 --> 00:36:57.139 Yeah, it does. All right. And the patches are 00:36:57.139 --> 00:37:02.599 there. So if you want those, order soon. Uh, 00:37:02.739 --> 00:37:06.940 don't forget registration, um, is on, uh, Joda 00:37:06.940 --> 00:37:11.699 Jodi dot info. And, um, you know, I know we, 00:37:11.699 --> 00:37:14.719 we talked a little bit before the show, you know, 00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:17.840 getting those numbers are, uh, have been a little 00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:23.800 tricky with the, um, with, uh, COVID and, uh, 00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:27.639 not having everybody together. Uh, but, uh, You 00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.059 know if people can register on there at least 00:37:30.059 --> 00:37:33.940 you're gonna get some kind of feedback for this 00:37:33.940 --> 00:37:37.760 year Yeah, and generally you can they normally 00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:40.420 have a list of Participants and stuff like that 00:37:40.420 --> 00:37:43.480 so you can kind of search through with with some 00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.599 success It's more geared towards international 00:37:46.599 --> 00:37:49.619 community so for us us people that you know care 00:37:49.619 --> 00:37:53.440 about city and everything else and Location it's 00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:57.880 not terribly useful for that Maybe next year 00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:00.320 we'll get back to doing the local registration 00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:05.039 on that and then maybe partnering again with 00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:08.619 our good friends at ICOM America to give out 00:38:08.619 --> 00:38:14.960 a handheld for some lucky after action report. 00:38:16.239 --> 00:38:20.599 reporter. So not this year. Sorry. Sorry. You 00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:22.840 didn't, uh, didn't put everything together to 00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:25.619 do that this year, but, uh, definitely participate. 00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:28.320 Definitely. Uh, as soon as you register on the 00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:30.900 Joda Jodi info site, they're gonna, they'll send 00:38:30.900 --> 00:38:32.840 you an email. They'll also send you your jam 00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:35.320 puzzle ID, and then they'll follow up after the 00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:38.019 event with, uh, an after action report. So you 00:38:38.019 --> 00:38:41.300 can report back and also feel free to, uh, email 00:38:41.300 --> 00:38:45.579 us at ktubsa .net. Uh, you can email us at info. 00:38:45.550 --> 00:38:50.349 info at ktbsa .net and we'll take your report 00:38:50.349 --> 00:38:52.530 and we'll get it up and available for people. 00:38:52.550 --> 00:38:55.849 If you want to share pictures and what you had 00:38:55.849 --> 00:38:58.150 for success, we would love that information. 00:38:58.829 --> 00:39:02.309 But don't expect an end of action report from 00:39:02.309 --> 00:39:04.489 us specifically this year. I'm going to shoot 00:39:04.489 --> 00:39:09.349 for that next year. But yeah, definitely participate 00:39:09.349 --> 00:39:12.869 and have fun. All right. That's the big thing 00:39:12.869 --> 00:39:16.260 is have fun. So Get on the air, work some of 00:39:16.260 --> 00:39:21.199 these scouts. If you get a chance to put something 00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:25.340 together with the scouts, it'd be great to get 00:39:25.340 --> 00:39:27.940 them on the air, but they need people to talk 00:39:27.940 --> 00:39:31.909 to just like everybody else. get on the air and 00:39:31.909 --> 00:39:34.389 give them a call. Well, Bill, thanks so much 00:39:34.389 --> 00:39:37.489 for being on the show today. Appreciate it. And 00:39:37.489 --> 00:39:40.269 it's great to talk to you again about this and 00:39:40.269 --> 00:39:44.070 looking forward to a lot of activity here in 00:39:44.070 --> 00:39:47.170 just a couple of weeks. Yeah, great talking to 00:39:47.170 --> 00:39:50.380 you again. And thanks for having me. That is 00:39:50.380 --> 00:39:53.239 a wrap for this edition of HamTalk Live. Thanks 00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:56.559 to my guest Bill Stearns, N -E -4 -R -D, and 00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:58.699 everybody out there in cyberspace for listening 00:39:58.699 --> 00:40:01.559 and invite you back next time. For a list of 00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:04.199 all of our upcoming guests, visit HamTalkLive 00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:08.400 .com. So for now, this is Neil Rapp, WB9VPG, 00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:13.900 saying 7 -3, 7 -5, and may the good DX be yours. 00:40:16.889 --> 00:40:20.969 To you and your family I'll be seeing you further 00:40:20.969 --> 00:40:25.929 down the law You're 73's To you and your family 00:40:25.929 --> 00:40:30.369 I'll be seeing you further down the law