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Talk Live, episode number 307, CQ Worldwide CW.

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It's recorded live on Tuesday, November 15th,

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2022. I am your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG. Thanks

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for tuning in to this episode of Ham Talk Live.

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Tonight, we're joined by John Doar, K1AR, from

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the CQ Worldwide CW contest. Last episode, Joe

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make sure you check that out. Okay. It was a

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pretty good one. Well, we're going to talk a

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little CW here with John and what's coming up

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Copy 594 from HamTalk Live. Welcome back to HamTalk

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Live. Tonight John Doar K1AR joins us on the

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Orlando Amateur Radio Club and Hamcation Zoom

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line. We want to thank the Orlando Club and Hamcation

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for providing that Zoom service for us. John

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K1AR was named the CQ Worldwide DX Contest Director.

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Back in 2018, he's been a member of the CQ Worldwide

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Contest Committee since the mid -1970s and was

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CQ Magazine's Contesting Editor from 1989 until

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2011. He's also a two -time World Radio Sport

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Team Championship medalist. and was elected to

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the CQ Contest Hall of Fame in 1997. So John,

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welcome back. Thanks for coming back to the show.

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All right. I'm excited to be here. And you sure

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that was me you were talking about? Yeah, it

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was. It was. Sometimes when people hear those

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bios, they're like, oh, wow. I did that? Who's

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that guy? Well, last time you were here we were

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talking about a youth initiative that kind of

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started some youth categories in the CQ Worldwide

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Contest and we can talk about that a little bit

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later in the show, but CQ Worldwide CW is coming

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up and I got a chance to actually get on the

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radio for a while and operate the sideband contest,

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picked up several new uh... countries all -time

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new ones and uh... so that was great and uh...

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i think uh... things went really well there uh...

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but we've got cw coming up so tell us all about

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the cw contest when it is how people can participate

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what's the exchange where can they find the rules

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all that good stuff well the uh... the best place

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to go for information in general is to the uh...

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CQ Worldwide website, which is cqww .com. And

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there's just a ton of resource there. Everything

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from the rules for the contest to awards programs

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and results. You can enter your call in and look

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at every CQ Worldwide you've entered. And we

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have records going all the way back to the beginning

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in 1948, which is a little before my time. So

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it's secret wide has in recent years really continue

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to grow in popularity. And this upcoming CW edition,

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which is always on the last weekend of the month

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of November, will be nothing short of spectacular,

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I think, because we have we have a little gift

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that we've been given. And that is the sun is

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waking up a little bit. Yeah. With as often said

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there's no meters like 10 meters, right? Yeah

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It's going to be it's going to be a great time

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and I think there's enough Resiliency and and

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what the Sun has given us that even if we have

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some solar disturbances things are still going

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to be good because the world wide has, I often

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say has magical powers. It can just turn the

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bands on no matter what's going on with the sun.

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Yeah, I heard this theory that the ionosphere

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actually changes with contests, that all the

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contest activity actually ionizes the layers

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and everything and all of a sudden there are

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people on the bands. It's one of the secret keys

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that they gave me when I became director. Oh,

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you can turn it on and off. Very good. If I'm

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operating and the competition's way ahead of

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me, just flip that baby off and then there you

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go. But we really, all kidding aside. have really

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grown in the phone section here last month. In

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October, we are now creeping up on 8 ,900 logs,

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so close to 9 ,000 logs. That literally represents

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millions of QSOs being made, probably in the

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range of 40 ,000 people. getting on the air,

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not all of them submit logs, obviously, because

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we only get 9 ,000 of them, but say some 40 ,000

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people are getting on and in some way or fashion

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to operate the contest. And that's really the

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message for anybody who's listening here is that

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the beauty of the Worldwide is it's a great contest

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just to flip on the radio and have a little bit

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of fun. And your definition of fun is whatever

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you want to make it. It could be It can be a

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couple hours on Saturday morning before the family

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wakes up, or you can be a crazy man like me and

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do it all weekend for 50 straight years. And

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there's a lot of guys like me, I guess, out there

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that have been going at this for as long as we

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have. And I guess you kind of have to ask the

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question, why do we do that? And for me at this

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point in the... in operating at all is, I do

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it just because it's fun. And I do it because

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I enjoy the camaraderie of working other guys

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and all that comes with it. And, you know, it

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doesn't hurt to have a little bit of solar activity

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to kind of spice things up, as I said before.

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So, you know, you can now with, you know, a marginal

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antenna system still get on and Uh, either work

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new countries or, you know, work the most guys

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you've ever worked in an hour or, uh, beat your,

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uh, your friend across town, you know, whatever,

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whatever gets you excited about the stuff. Uh,

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that's, that's what's in it for you. Yeah. I,

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you know, I was very casual in my approach to

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sideband, uh, here a few weeks ago. Just, you

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know, did two or three hours, took a break, came

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back, did a couple hours later that night to

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get a little, you know, different band, different

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propagation. And then the next day came in and

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just kind of wrote out the end of the contest

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when things were kind of thinned out a little

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bit. And I went to country searching and just

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started spinning the knob and trying to find

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some of those and was able to to get several

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of them. I'm still waiting on all the confirmations

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to come in to see if I got the new DXCC count

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of 100 started over on that. So I've been right

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there on the edge and I'm hoping that CQ Worldwide

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Sideband finished that off for me. We'll see

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how that goes, but this is CW. So, so after all

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the turkey and the tryptophan and everything,

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you're supposed to stay awake and work CW. Well,

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you know, I will say this at one, one thing that,

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uh, certainly the worldwide and other, other

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big contests approving is that For the naysayers

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out there that are sort of saying CW is a thing

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of the past. CW is dead and all of that. Boy,

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you just got to take a listen during this upcoming

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weekend and let's say 20 meters, for example.

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You're going to find signals from the bottom

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all the way up to the top. And, you know, 14

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000 up to 100 and actually even above that. And

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it's just wall to wall. madness, you know, there's,

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on any given worldwide weekend, you know, ground

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numbers, there's just a couple hundred countries

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that are actually on the air. So a significant

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line share of DXCC is actually operating. And

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now that, you know, what we all hope is the COVID

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pandemic being behind us for the most part. You

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know, you're starting to see the de -expeditions

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and the people traveling and, you know, putting

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interesting places on the air and it's becoming

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almost back to the good old days again, where,

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you know, some people would argue the Worldwide

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is a good tune up for the Bouvier Expeditions

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coming up. Indeed, indeed. Well, let's talk a

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little bit about the exchange for people who

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maybe haven't done CQ Worldwide CW before, or

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maybe some people that are just casually on the

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air and, oh, there's a contest. What should I

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give to people who work? Let's go over the exchange

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and how that works. Sure. attractions of the

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CQ Worldwide in particular is the simplicity

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of the contest. And what I mean by that is when

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you get on and work other guys, other folks in

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the contest, you simply exchange a signal report,

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599, and your CQ zone. So there's 40 of them

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divided around the world. You can look up your

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zone on the CQ website. But as an example, on

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the East Coast of the US, your zone is five.

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If you're in Western Europe, your zone is 14

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and so forth. And just simply sending a call

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and a 599 and the zone and getting the same in

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return is all you have to do. A lot of people

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ask me, do I have to pre -register? Do I have

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to do anything? There's only one requirement.

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Uh, and it's, it's a fairly significant one.

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Uh, it takes a lot of thought, but what you have

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to do before any secure worldwide is sit down

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in front of your radio and turn it on. And, uh,

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and once you had accomplished that task, uh,

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you are ready to rock and roll. And it's a, it's

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really, really that, uh, that simple. And let's

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go over the official start and end times and

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dates here. Make sure we've got everybody on

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the same page here. So, so it's a, it's a 48

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hour contest in total. Uh, you can operate anywhere

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from 48 hours to 30 seconds. So again, that's

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just a function of, of, uh, what your schedule

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and, uh, perhaps what your spouse allows, um,

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or other significant. Yes. You know, one of the

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challenges of this contest, and we deal with

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this except once in 10 or 11 years, is this thing

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called Thanksgiving in the U .S. And of course,

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this is Thanksgiving weekend and there's always

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that balancing act. So the contest this year

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is going to be starting on the evening of the

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25th, the 26th GMT and run through Sunday, the

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27th of this year. for 48 hours. And like I said,

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one of the nice things about the worldwide is

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there's also a category, there's many categories

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we can get into a lot of detail on that. But

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one of the things, one of the areas that is really

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popular is we created this idea of the classic

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entry. And with that thing, they were like the

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classic car, you know, where... Roll many of

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us are becoming antiques so we can probably relate

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to this to some degree but you know back when

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I was a young pup you know that doing 48 hours

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is not a big deal but as we say mature the idea

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of being up for 48 straight hours physically

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is a pretty big challenge so we create his idea

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of a 24 hour window that you can operate. And

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it's really the idea is just a boy and his radio.

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And what I mean by that is we've stripped away

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all the other things that people are doing, such

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as SO2R, meaning using two radios, we've taken

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away spotting. And it's just a basic get on for

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24 hours. And you can operate more than that,

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by the way, but the 24 hours is what will count

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for your actual score. And that's it. And then

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in terms of the actual scoring for the CQ Worldwide,

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one of the things that is, I think, important

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to know is that you can submit a log and you

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really don't even have to worry about your score

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because we ended up calculating them all anyway.

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So it's not something you have to get too hung

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up on. But it fundamentally comes down to you

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know, multiplying the number of countries and

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zones that you work in the contest by the number

00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:53.380
of QSOs that you make. And QSOs have a certain

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number of points assigned to them. And all this

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is written down in very clear, very clear way

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in the rules that I would suggest anybody take

00:19:02.420 --> 00:19:04.920
a peek at because we're always changing little

00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:08.819
things. Sometimes we do bigger things in rule

00:19:08.819 --> 00:19:12.809
changes. This year we did not. But we're always

00:19:12.809 --> 00:19:15.269
doing things like creating new categories such

00:19:15.269 --> 00:19:18.410
as the focus on youth that we did last year as

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a new thing and other kinds of things. There's

00:19:23.089 --> 00:19:27.190
also tons of awards. We have something on the

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order of close to 200 plaques available. And

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I kind of struggle and wrap my head around that

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as I'm the guy that gets to prepare all those

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and send them out. But it's all part of the excitement

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around the contest. The most populated, most

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popular contest with the best awards program

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reaching the most number of people in the world

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in one weekend. It doesn't get any better than

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that. Oh, yeah. You bet. Well, we're talking

00:20:01.609 --> 00:20:07.740
with John Doar, K1AR. He is the... Director of

00:20:07.740 --> 00:20:11.700
the CQ Worldwide DX Contest and a member of the

00:20:11.700 --> 00:20:15.440
CQ Worldwide Contest Committee. And we're talking

00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:19.319
about CQ Worldwide CW coming up Thanksgiving

00:20:19.319 --> 00:20:24.799
weekend here in the US. Yeah, let's dig into

00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:26.799
the categories a little bit. You talked about

00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:29.900
the classic overlay, that that's an option to

00:20:29.900 --> 00:20:35.839
kind of trim out 24 hours. Kind of simplify things

00:20:35.839 --> 00:20:38.400
a little bit, but let's let's dig into those

00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:40.640
categories and you mentioned the youth which

00:20:40.640 --> 00:20:45.319
of course is is one that's that's near and dear

00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:49.059
to my heart because I do so much with that but

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There are some some rookie things and others

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that Will give a chance for some people to enter

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and you just never know you you know sometimes

00:21:00.150 --> 00:21:02.589
you might be the only one to enter that category

00:21:02.589 --> 00:21:06.509
so so what are the choices here for uh... for

00:21:06.509 --> 00:21:11.769
categories well uh... you know the the category

00:21:11.769 --> 00:21:14.769
definition in the world wide was really designed

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to to give people as many different options as

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reasonable uh... and without going completely

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crazy in terms of uh... you know making everybody

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a winner so to speak but Fundamentally, they

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come down to the idea of operating by yourself

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as a single operator or operating as a group,

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meaning a multi -operator situation. And then

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within the construct of that, as a single op,

00:21:46.059 --> 00:21:50.380
for example, you may have a station that specializes

00:21:50.380 --> 00:21:54.900
in mediocrity on every band, but say 15 meters.

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15 meters, you got a 700 foot tower with stacked

00:21:59.920 --> 00:22:02.660
yagis up and down and that's what you got, right?

00:22:03.299 --> 00:22:07.299
So you might be the kind of person who says,

00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:09.940
you know what, I'm going to enter the single

00:22:09.940 --> 00:22:13.660
operator, single band, 15 meter category. And

00:22:13.660 --> 00:22:16.079
that would be for you, right? Or you might want

00:22:16.079 --> 00:22:20.779
to do 20 or 40 or whatever. So that's one way

00:22:20.779 --> 00:22:25.519
to slice it. Another way to slice it is uh, high

00:22:25.519 --> 00:22:30.140
power, low power QRP. There are people who through

00:22:30.140 --> 00:22:32.380
the bottom of the sunspot cycle have entered

00:22:32.380 --> 00:22:37.839
QRP every year. Uh, God bless them. Um, you know,

00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:41.660
if you, uh, if you want to win a category, a

00:22:41.660 --> 00:22:44.579
good shot of winning a category would be to enter

00:22:44.579 --> 00:22:48.079
single up QRP, 10 meter model band at the bottom

00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:53.660
of the cycle. Yeah. You probably win that category,

00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:57.059
or certainly be in the top couple. And believe

00:22:57.059 --> 00:23:01.819
it or not, people do that. And that's their idea

00:23:01.819 --> 00:23:05.940
of having fun, right? So in the multi -op category,

00:23:06.539 --> 00:23:10.099
there's the idea of multi -single, meaning you

00:23:10.099 --> 00:23:13.160
and just you and a group and a single transmitter.

00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:16.140
You could have multi -two, where you can have

00:23:16.140 --> 00:23:18.869
two transmitters going at the same time. where

00:23:18.869 --> 00:23:23.690
you can have a room filled with equipment and

00:23:23.690 --> 00:23:26.950
a room filled with people and have what's called

00:23:26.950 --> 00:23:29.609
multi -multi which is kind of the granddaddy

00:23:29.609 --> 00:23:35.609
of all of this and everything in between. And

00:23:35.609 --> 00:23:38.230
then to make it a little more interesting we

00:23:38.230 --> 00:23:44.809
added a few extra what we call overlays or special

00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:48.759
categories. So I already mentioned the 24 -hour

00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:53.359
classic. We've mentioned the youth. So if you're

00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:58.539
25 or under, you can essentially now compete

00:23:58.539 --> 00:24:01.839
against your peer group from an age point of

00:24:01.839 --> 00:24:06.039
view. We also have a rookie category where if

00:24:06.039 --> 00:24:09.900
you've been licensed just for three years, I

00:24:09.900 --> 00:24:14.579
think it is a couple years, you can enter that.

00:24:14.589 --> 00:24:17.609
as a rookie and compete against other rookies

00:24:17.609 --> 00:24:20.569
and see how you do against other newer folks

00:24:20.569 --> 00:24:24.069
as opposed to trying to only compare your score

00:24:24.069 --> 00:24:25.849
against somebody who's been doing it for a hundred

00:24:25.849 --> 00:24:28.490
years and kind of say, well, that's not fair.

00:24:30.450 --> 00:24:35.769
It's another way to just have interest created

00:24:35.769 --> 00:24:39.890
and make it special for you. And then we just

00:24:39.890 --> 00:24:43.769
kind of go from there. With all of these categories

00:24:43.769 --> 00:24:47.670
and groupings, of course, it makes it challenging,

00:24:47.670 --> 00:24:51.190
frankly, when you get 9 ,000 logs coming in to

00:24:51.190 --> 00:24:54.029
kind of keep all this straight. And believe it

00:24:54.029 --> 00:24:57.029
or not, in years gone by, when I was in the early

00:24:57.029 --> 00:25:01.009
days of doing this, everything was on paper.

00:25:02.190 --> 00:25:07.730
And I'll never forget the one fatal question

00:25:07.730 --> 00:25:11.250
I asked. Uh, one of my predecessors, Bob Cox,

00:25:11.390 --> 00:25:14.849
K3ST, back, uh, when I first discovered this

00:25:14.849 --> 00:25:18.190
thing called, uh, the CQY and the contest committee

00:25:18.190 --> 00:25:21.029
and all that, I went to his house and in his

00:25:21.029 --> 00:25:23.569
family room, he had all these boxes all over

00:25:23.569 --> 00:25:26.910
the room. And I made, I asked him one fatal question.

00:25:27.130 --> 00:25:32.369
I said, Hey Bob, what's in those boxes? Fast

00:25:32.369 --> 00:25:35.150
forward, uh, 40 years and now I'm directing the

00:25:35.150 --> 00:25:37.690
contest, right? But what was in those boxes?

00:25:37.950 --> 00:25:42.069
all the paper logs from those days. And somehow,

00:25:43.109 --> 00:25:46.269
again, more of this magical power thing, somehow

00:25:46.269 --> 00:25:49.690
we managed to figure out how to receive logs

00:25:49.690 --> 00:25:54.029
from hundreds of countries, tabulate them all,

00:25:54.269 --> 00:25:56.670
get them into a format that we could then send

00:25:56.670 --> 00:26:00.130
to CQ, get them to figure out how to put that

00:26:00.130 --> 00:26:03.009
into a format that could result in a magazine.

00:26:03.549 --> 00:26:06.210
And that magazine gets shipped to a newsstand

00:26:06.210 --> 00:26:09.819
in New Delhi. and have an Indian ham pick up

00:26:09.819 --> 00:26:12.680
his copy of CQ and see his call sign on page

00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:17.559
96. And now that's happened year after year after

00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:21.339
year now for over 70 years in the CQ Worldwide.

00:26:21.660 --> 00:26:24.740
Yep. And now we've got those nice little contest

00:26:24.740 --> 00:26:29.319
robots to go through and crunch all those numbers.

00:26:30.099 --> 00:26:33.019
Here's a question for you. How long does it take

00:26:33.019 --> 00:26:36.420
to run through once you've got all the logs?

00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:40.119
How long does the computer take to figure out

00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:43.740
all that stuff? It's, um, we've been constantly

00:26:43.740 --> 00:26:47.960
upgrading, uh, our systems. Uh, it's all, it's

00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:50.240
all, you know, largely PC based. So it's not

00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:53.140
like we have a, you know, a Cray supercomputer

00:26:53.140 --> 00:26:57.259
running in, uh, in a secret military location.

00:26:58.180 --> 00:27:01.799
Um, but, uh, you know, the, the run of the logs

00:27:01.799 --> 00:27:05.319
is, um, you know, under an hour and it's got

00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:10.240
faster and faster over time to do that. What's

00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:14.519
interesting now is with computers, and we should

00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:16.960
probably talk a little bit about what it takes

00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:20.200
to actually submit a log, which I'll help you

00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:23.220
with here in just a second, but with computers

00:27:23.220 --> 00:27:27.000
now we actually are able to produce what we call

00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:30.380
the raw scores or the preliminary results. It's

00:27:30.380 --> 00:27:33.190
just what everybody claimed they did. and we

00:27:33.190 --> 00:27:35.630
tabulated all and we published a set of results

00:27:35.630 --> 00:27:39.750
and we published that for the phone contest six

00:27:39.750 --> 00:27:44.130
days after the contest where we had at that time

00:27:44.130 --> 00:27:47.890
probably about 8 ,000 logs and you can go on

00:27:47.890 --> 00:27:49.970
there now on the CQ website if you submitted

00:27:49.970 --> 00:27:53.849
a log and you can see now before scores get you

00:27:53.849 --> 00:27:56.470
know checked and adjusted and all you can see

00:27:56.470 --> 00:28:00.349
where you actually are standing in placement

00:28:00.349 --> 00:28:04.589
for your your call area or your country or, you

00:28:04.589 --> 00:28:07.890
know, various ways to slice and dice it. Um,

00:28:07.890 --> 00:28:10.890
and that's all available now online on, on cqww

00:28:10.890 --> 00:28:16.089
.com site. Um, so some, some people are, and

00:28:16.089 --> 00:28:17.990
for good reason, if you're not experienced in

00:28:17.990 --> 00:28:21.069
this game or, or a little bit intimidated when

00:28:21.069 --> 00:28:23.730
they start hearing all these words like, uh,

00:28:23.769 --> 00:28:27.390
you know, Cabrillo and, and ADIF files and all

00:28:27.390 --> 00:28:29.940
this stuff, right. and they're saying, oh man,

00:28:30.059 --> 00:28:31.920
you know, I guess I have to go back to computer

00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:34.299
science school to be able to enter the CQ Worldwide.

00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:37.259
Well, you know, the good news is that if you're

00:28:37.259 --> 00:28:40.359
using any kind of a logging program like N1MM

00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:45.079
or WinTest or something like that, N1MM is a

00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:47.660
great choice for a lot of people because it appeals

00:28:47.660 --> 00:28:55.799
to HAM's basic DNA. It's free. all of the logging

00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:58.480
programs do all the heavy lifting for you. They

00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:01.240
create the files you need on the output side

00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:05.640
after the contest and submitting the log is really

00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:09.380
honestly a pretty simple process that when you

00:29:09.380 --> 00:29:11.960
go on to the CQ Worldwide site, you'll see it

00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:15.039
just kind of guide you through the steps. And

00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:18.490
you know, everybody gets challenged. with this

00:29:18.490 --> 00:29:20.990
including myself sometimes when I'm working on

00:29:20.990 --> 00:29:22.769
somebody's blog and trying to get it submitted

00:29:22.769 --> 00:29:25.750
for them. But you can always, always, always,

00:29:25.750 --> 00:29:29.730
always reach out to us with the contact page

00:29:29.730 --> 00:29:33.509
on the CQ site. All that mail comes to me, all

00:29:33.509 --> 00:29:38.710
three, the 400 of them per mode. And all three

00:29:38.710 --> 00:29:41.390
to 400 of them, every single one of them usually

00:29:41.390 --> 00:29:44.410
gets answered within a day or less when I get

00:29:44.410 --> 00:29:49.789
it. So it really does work. So worst case, if

00:29:49.789 --> 00:29:51.690
you're having problems and you can't figure out

00:29:51.690 --> 00:29:54.230
how to do this stuff and I get it, just send

00:29:54.230 --> 00:29:57.369
me a note and say, I'm struggling here and we'll

00:29:57.369 --> 00:30:01.650
work through. What doesn't work as well, and

00:30:01.650 --> 00:30:05.930
as you might imagine, we see logs that come in

00:30:05.930 --> 00:30:13.750
with amazing variants of formats. 98 % of them

00:30:13.750 --> 00:30:16.529
are the ones that are created by the computer

00:30:16.529 --> 00:30:19.650
logs, the logging programs. But every once in

00:30:19.650 --> 00:30:23.269
a while, we'll get a PDF, we'll get an Excel

00:30:23.269 --> 00:30:28.869
spreadsheet, a Word document, a JPEG, and things

00:30:28.869 --> 00:30:34.450
like that. And even those, we'll work with you

00:30:34.450 --> 00:30:37.210
and get it figured out for you. And you'll get

00:30:37.210 --> 00:30:40.430
to see your call in print and on the website

00:30:40.430 --> 00:30:44.930
and everywhere else. uh it's it really is is

00:30:44.930 --> 00:30:48.470
helpful for us to as we're going through the

00:30:48.470 --> 00:30:51.390
log checking process which is not a court of

00:30:51.390 --> 00:30:54.190
law it's simply saying hey you said you worked

00:30:54.190 --> 00:30:58.569
this guy let's see if you did and the way we

00:30:58.569 --> 00:31:01.309
can tell is by looking at his log oh you're in

00:31:01.309 --> 00:31:03.630
that log and you're in your log check you made

00:31:03.630 --> 00:31:07.170
it you passed the test um so that's why we do

00:31:07.170 --> 00:31:10.960
all this and and whether you got a a tiny little

00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:16.420
100 QSO or 50 QSO log, or 10 ,000 people, they're

00:31:16.420 --> 00:31:18.940
all valuable. And we really would ask that you

00:31:18.940 --> 00:31:23.220
all try to send them in. Very good. All right.

00:31:23.220 --> 00:31:24.799
Well, we're going to take a break right now.

00:31:24.799 --> 00:31:30.380
But when we come back, I've got a kind of tough

00:31:30.380 --> 00:31:33.299
question to ask John here. So we'll talk about

00:31:33.299 --> 00:31:36.180
that. And we'll talk about some of the hardware

00:31:36.180 --> 00:31:39.799
that you can receive. when we come back with

00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:42.480
John right after this word from Tower Electronics

00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:48.940
right here on HamTalk Live. His two cents is

00:31:48.940 --> 00:31:57.319
worth $37 in change. He once ran a marathon because

00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:06.019
it was on his way to Dayton. He works FT8 by

00:32:06.019 --> 00:32:13.039
ear. He once worked North Korea on every band

00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:20.740
in one minute using only a microwatt. He slowed

00:32:20.740 --> 00:32:24.380
down his code speed to work a de -expedition

00:32:24.380 --> 00:32:33.380
to 200 words a minute. He is, indeed, the most

00:32:33.380 --> 00:32:38.619
interesting ham in the world. I don't always

00:32:38.619 --> 00:32:43.440
put on my own PL259s, but when I do, I prefer

00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:47.220
them from Tower Electronics. Stay resident, my

00:32:47.220 --> 00:32:51.440
friends. Tower Electronics has all the adapters,

00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:56.819
cables, connectors, and yes, PL259s you need

00:32:56.819 --> 00:33:03.039
at a ham fest near you. Or visit PL -259 .com.

00:33:07.419 --> 00:33:10.180
And on the tower electronics ham fest schedule

00:33:10.180 --> 00:33:13.799
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00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:17.299
and 20th Ocala, Florida December 2nd and 3rd

00:33:17.299 --> 00:33:20.480
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00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:25.619
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00:33:25.619 --> 00:33:28.900
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00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:49.069
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00:33:53.809 --> 00:33:57.109
Coming up here in just a moment, we'll come back

00:33:57.109 --> 00:34:00.890
to John Doerr, K1AR, talking about CQ Worldwide

00:34:00.890 --> 00:34:05.809
CW. But for right now, it's time for the joke

00:34:05.809 --> 00:34:09.489
of the week. Now it's time for the HamTalk Live

00:34:09.489 --> 00:34:12.409
Ham Radio Joke of the Week, the part of the show

00:34:12.409 --> 00:34:15.730
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00:34:15.730 --> 00:34:18.230
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00:34:18.230 --> 00:34:22.170
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00:34:22.170 --> 00:34:26.610
9GSU with today's HamTalk Live Joke of the Week.

00:34:31.710 --> 00:34:34.070
The other day a buddy of mine told me he got

00:34:34.070 --> 00:34:37.469
Mexico on his ham radio. That's no big deal.

00:34:37.929 --> 00:34:42.670
I opened my window and got killy. This has been

00:34:42.670 --> 00:34:45.969
the HamTalk Live Ham Radio Joke of the Week with

00:34:45.969 --> 00:34:49.710
Rick Garrett N9 GSU. Tune in again next week

00:34:49.710 --> 00:34:55.869
for another joke from Rick. We are back here

00:34:55.869 --> 00:35:01.170
on HamTalk Live with John Doar K1AR the CQ Worldwide

00:35:01.170 --> 00:35:06.199
DX Contest Director and we have CQ... worldwide

00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:11.099
CW coming up Thanksgiving weekend in the United

00:35:11.099 --> 00:35:15.019
States the last weekend of November. So we want

00:35:15.019 --> 00:35:19.019
to try to help get you ready for that. And, and

00:35:19.019 --> 00:35:23.460
John, one of the big controversial things right

00:35:23.460 --> 00:35:27.699
now in contesting is, is, you know, we do have

00:35:27.699 --> 00:35:33.059
some, some war time situations going on and And

00:35:33.059 --> 00:35:37.360
there's been a lot of controversy over Russian

00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:42.619
participation in contesting and CQ Worldwide

00:35:42.619 --> 00:35:46.539
is no exception. So kind of wanted to ask you

00:35:46.539 --> 00:35:54.159
what's being done here with the Russians participation

00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:58.940
in these contests. Sure. Well, you know, this

00:35:58.940 --> 00:36:04.659
is a topic that Frankly, every sponsor of a contest

00:36:04.659 --> 00:36:09.360
as well as awards programs and any kind of on

00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:13.360
-air activity is dealing with right now. And

00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:17.900
the question is, how do we respond to what's

00:36:17.900 --> 00:36:24.039
happening in the geopolitical world of the Ukraine

00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:29.840
and Russia in particular? And it's been a challenge.

00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:34.320
Um, the, uh, the original position that, that

00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:38.800
CQ magazine took, uh, which, uh, really, uh,

00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:42.480
was initiated right after the, uh, uh, the events

00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:46.599
over in Ukraine began in March was to basically,

00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:51.619
uh, put a ban on accepting, uh, entries from,

00:36:51.619 --> 00:36:56.519
uh, Russian, uh, uh, hams. Um, and basically,

00:36:56.519 --> 00:36:59.260
uh, they could They could operate the contest,

00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:06.480
but their logs would not be accepted and they

00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:08.739
were not eligible for awards or anything like

00:37:08.739 --> 00:37:12.960
that. In this case in the WPX contest, which

00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:16.420
takes place the end of March and then later in

00:37:16.420 --> 00:37:21.280
the end of May for CW. So as we were rolling

00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:23.800
through the summer, I think everyone hoped for

00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:27.039
many better reasons that uh, things would change

00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:30.639
geopolitically. And as we're sadly seeing, uh,

00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:33.500
you know, the conflict continues. And as we were

00:37:33.500 --> 00:37:36.780
coming up to the time of the CQ worldwide here

00:37:36.780 --> 00:37:40.019
in the fall, uh, we had to ask the question again,

00:37:40.019 --> 00:37:43.800
and that is, do we maintain this policy? Uh,

00:37:43.860 --> 00:37:45.719
should we do something different? Because the

00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:49.000
thing that was nagging, I think, at us was the

00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:53.059
fact that Ham Radio for all of its existence

00:37:53.059 --> 00:37:56.380
has really taken pride in sort of separating

00:37:56.380 --> 00:38:00.219
itself from all the controversies that seem to

00:38:00.219 --> 00:38:04.380
in particular are rising to the surface nowadays,

00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:09.199
whether it's politics or religion or gender or

00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:13.480
war. All of these things are things that Ham

00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:17.019
Radio has kind of avoided very intentionally.

00:38:17.469 --> 00:38:23.050
And it seemed a little bit contradictory to be

00:38:23.050 --> 00:38:27.010
taking a position with that backdrop in our history.

00:38:28.630 --> 00:38:31.889
So after a whole lot of discussion, the bottom

00:38:31.889 --> 00:38:34.809
line that was included was for the CQ Worldwide

00:38:34.809 --> 00:38:37.610
and actually all of CQ's contests going forward

00:38:37.610 --> 00:38:42.849
is that we have allowed for Russian and Belarus

00:38:42.849 --> 00:38:46.630
hams both. who were previously banned to now

00:38:46.630 --> 00:38:50.010
operate and participate. They can submit logs.

00:38:50.829 --> 00:38:53.829
We did have one caveat though, and that is that

00:38:53.829 --> 00:38:57.550
we're continuing to exclude their ability to

00:38:57.550 --> 00:39:02.030
receive awards in the CQ contest, but other than

00:39:02.030 --> 00:39:05.949
that, they are basically allowed to operate and

00:39:05.949 --> 00:39:08.809
enter the contest. And the thinking behind it

00:39:08.809 --> 00:39:10.909
was actually very simple, and that is that...

00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:13.739
Rather than trying to create a one -size -fits

00:39:13.739 --> 00:39:18.360
-all sort of moral statement on what you should

00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:22.840
do as a ham in this situation, we decided that

00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:25.940
we should leave that up to the operators themselves,

00:39:26.559 --> 00:39:30.519
individually, one by one. And you have the choice

00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:36.320
of working other Russian hams or not, or anybody

00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:40.329
for that matter. rather than trying to create

00:39:40.329 --> 00:39:44.590
a role that fits all that you may in fact disagree

00:39:44.590 --> 00:39:47.650
with. And what we learned as we reached out to

00:39:47.650 --> 00:39:49.949
the conscious community is that this was a much

00:39:49.949 --> 00:39:54.989
more desirable conclusion. And what we saw was

00:39:54.989 --> 00:39:58.269
that there was a number of folks who did take

00:39:58.269 --> 00:40:01.489
a personal stand and did not. operate the contest

00:40:01.489 --> 00:40:06.750
for moral reasons. And the vast majority of folks

00:40:06.750 --> 00:40:10.010
did, as we see by the 9 ,000 logs that came in.

00:40:11.070 --> 00:40:13.230
And I think for now, that's probably the right

00:40:13.230 --> 00:40:18.889
position. CQ is holding to the idea that if things

00:40:18.889 --> 00:40:23.650
change, for the worse or the better, that's certainly

00:40:23.650 --> 00:40:27.039
the option to adjust. what is happening right

00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:30.239
now can take place just like we did recently

00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:34.380
for this round. And I think it's everyone's hope

00:40:34.380 --> 00:40:37.719
that all of this goes away and we can really

00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:40.539
just get back to doing what we love and that's

00:40:40.539 --> 00:40:43.480
just getting on the radio and having fun. So

00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:46.079
that's really why we do all this. And that's

00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:48.599
why I hope we continue to do it in the future.

00:40:49.980 --> 00:40:55.420
Okay. Very good. Well, Let's talk about some

00:40:55.420 --> 00:40:58.400
of those awards. You said you have several plaques

00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:01.980
and you get the fun job of making sure those

00:41:01.980 --> 00:41:05.760
get distributed to the winners and created. So

00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:08.739
let's talk about the plaques and who those go

00:41:08.739 --> 00:41:13.500
to and how all that works. And do you need any

00:41:13.500 --> 00:41:20.800
sponsors for plaques? Well, we have a group of

00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:24.940
incredibly generous sponsors who are sponsoring,

00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:29.260
as I mentioned earlier, pushing close to 200

00:41:29.260 --> 00:41:33.900
plaques, which is far and away the largest program

00:41:33.900 --> 00:41:37.800
out there in any contest I'm aware of in terms

00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:45.739
of numbers. And the need for sponsors is not

00:41:45.739 --> 00:41:48.760
large, but it's greater than zero. The best way

00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:53.440
to to review that. Again, just go to the CK Worldwide

00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:57.079
website. There's a tab on the top there for plaque.

00:41:57.179 --> 00:42:00.739
So you can see what's being offered as well as

00:42:00.739 --> 00:42:03.219
where there's need for sponsorship. And I update

00:42:03.219 --> 00:42:07.679
that in real time as things change. It's very

00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:10.659
easy to do. And one of the things that's nice

00:42:10.659 --> 00:42:14.559
about it is that you can see something that maybe

00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:19.019
is a fit for you. in terms of your station or

00:42:19.019 --> 00:42:22.159
your experience or your desired operate, and

00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:24.860
you can actually set as one of your personal

00:42:24.860 --> 00:42:26.960
goals to say, I want to go after that plaque,

00:42:27.019 --> 00:42:30.679
right? And those plaques are available for all

00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.500
those categories I mentioned earlier. I mentioned

00:42:34.500 --> 00:42:40.019
briefly how we initiated a new program centered

00:42:40.019 --> 00:42:45.420
on under 25 youth. Neil here has been a very,

00:42:45.420 --> 00:42:49.039
very strong supporter of that, both in terms

00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:53.619
of sponsorship and encouragement. And, uh, we,

00:42:53.619 --> 00:42:57.739
um, we created 14 plaques just for youth, uh,

00:42:57.739 --> 00:43:01.639
last year. And, um, you know, it's funny, uh,

00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:04.980
uh, I am because there's just a lot going on.

00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:07.679
I'm perpetually behind in the plaque game of

00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:10.579
getting these things out the door. Uh, so I,

00:43:10.579 --> 00:43:13.949
I, I beg in advance for, uh, for mercy. Uh, from,

00:43:14.170 --> 00:43:16.829
uh, from those that are do one and, uh, are listening,

00:43:17.570 --> 00:43:21.630
but, um, I will say that, uh, not surprisingly,

00:43:22.190 --> 00:43:24.889
the youth guys who are used to instantaneous

00:43:24.889 --> 00:43:27.250
results on the internet and everything else,

00:43:27.449 --> 00:43:29.670
you know, the contest will be about three, three

00:43:29.670 --> 00:43:32.909
hours old. They'll say, Hey, have you shipped

00:43:32.909 --> 00:43:40.050
my plaque yet? Surprised me at all. So but that's

00:43:40.050 --> 00:43:42.389
a good for them. I'm glad they're they're they're

00:43:42.389 --> 00:43:45.369
beating on us and in a good way and keeping us

00:43:45.369 --> 00:43:49.809
honest, but particularly for the youth I What

00:43:49.809 --> 00:43:53.309
I learned in talking to a number of young guys

00:43:53.309 --> 00:43:56.710
about how to put this together These things are

00:43:56.710 --> 00:44:00.269
meaningful They're they're meaningful in a lot

00:44:00.269 --> 00:44:04.329
of different ways Which is why I take it so seriously.

00:44:04.329 --> 00:44:11.150
I got a an email from a family, obviously, not

00:44:11.150 --> 00:44:14.409
obviously, but an email from a family over in

00:44:14.409 --> 00:44:18.010
Eastern Europe who the ham and the family had

00:44:18.010 --> 00:44:21.170
passed away from COVID, but they received the

00:44:21.170 --> 00:44:24.309
plaque and they were just so happy to be able

00:44:24.309 --> 00:44:27.039
to honor their family member. and put it on the

00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:30.260
wall was kind of that person's last thing they

00:44:30.260 --> 00:44:33.019
did in ham radio contesting. And that plaque

00:44:33.019 --> 00:44:35.460
probably meant more to them than any other thing

00:44:35.460 --> 00:44:39.300
that came in the mailbox in all these years that

00:44:39.300 --> 00:44:42.980
they were participating. So you can never underestimate

00:44:42.980 --> 00:44:46.860
the story. So many of these plaques are now done

00:44:46.860 --> 00:44:50.940
in memory of people who have left us become silent

00:44:50.940 --> 00:44:53.949
keys. And we can perpetuate their memory in a

00:44:53.949 --> 00:44:57.590
very positive way and have that name hanging

00:44:57.590 --> 00:45:02.269
on somebody's wall proudly that they achieved

00:45:02.269 --> 00:45:05.590
that award and that accomplishment in memory

00:45:05.590 --> 00:45:09.630
of the individual and the family that sponsored

00:45:09.630 --> 00:45:14.860
it. So it's really a great thing. Well, I know

00:45:14.860 --> 00:45:19.039
there were some young people that will be anxiously

00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:25.500
awaiting those plaques. And, you know, it was

00:45:25.500 --> 00:45:29.440
nice to be able to jump in. And I know with the

00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:33.940
youth, I think all yours were filled within like

00:45:33.940 --> 00:45:37.619
a few days, weren't they? Oh, it was phenomenal.

00:45:37.900 --> 00:45:43.579
We put the word out. I didn't even have to really

00:45:43.579 --> 00:45:46.920
ask. People were kind of coming to me, which

00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:50.440
was a nice problem. One other thing I'd say about

00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:55.920
awards is that if you submit a log and the log

00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:58.139
is on time, in other words, it's not past the

00:45:58.139 --> 00:46:03.739
deadline, you're able and eligible to get a certificate

00:46:03.739 --> 00:46:07.900
regardless of where you're placed. And you can

00:46:07.900 --> 00:46:11.739
download that right off the website. And it's

00:46:11.739 --> 00:46:14.159
actually a pretty, pretty handsome certificate

00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:17.820
in the same format that the CQ's used for many

00:46:17.820 --> 00:46:21.639
years. And everyone who participates and sends

00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:26.920
a log in can get one. Yeah, those are very, very

00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:31.099
nice and much appreciated. And yeah, I know what

00:46:31.099 --> 00:46:36.860
we just signed on for. Another plaque from from

00:46:36.860 --> 00:46:41.380
Yoda for the ready contest which you don't have

00:46:41.380 --> 00:46:44.000
to handle the plaques on though that one but

00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:48.599
But that's being added the youth category over

00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:52.760
there and you know same kind of story with a

00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:55.139
few of us got together and those plaques were

00:46:55.139 --> 00:47:00.179
all filled Within no time So make sure you check

00:47:00.179 --> 00:47:03.280
out that list on the website and if there's one

00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:06.500
out there that that needs a sponsor but you know

00:47:06.500 --> 00:47:10.519
consider doing that it's a It's not overly expensive

00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:14.440
to do that but it can be a nice reminder and

00:47:14.440 --> 00:47:16.719
I'm glad you shared some of the stories here

00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:21.760
of What those plaques do mean to to families

00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:25.760
and people? around the world. So that's pretty

00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:29.219
cool. Well, John, I think we're, I could add

00:47:29.219 --> 00:47:32.760
one. Sorry. I could add one other quick story.

00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:36.940
Uh, uh, this just happened recently. Um, uh,

00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:40.480
one of the winners last year, uh, in last year's

00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:44.579
contest was a Mongolian station. Um, and it turns

00:47:44.579 --> 00:47:48.420
out that there's no easy way, uh, for, I guess

00:47:48.420 --> 00:47:51.920
COVID reasons or whatever to get mail from here

00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:55.659
to Mongolia. And it turned out that there was

00:47:55.659 --> 00:47:58.940
a Mongolian ham who lives here in the U .S. now,

00:47:59.300 --> 00:48:01.460
who was going to be traveling back to Mongolia.

00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:05.579
And I was able to snag the plaque, ship it to

00:48:05.579 --> 00:48:08.260
him out in the West Coast, U .S. West Coast.

00:48:08.460 --> 00:48:11.099
The ham carried it on the plane to Mongolia.

00:48:11.460 --> 00:48:13.659
And then they sent me a picture of the team together,

00:48:13.820 --> 00:48:16.179
all holding their plaque, you know, in the shack.

00:48:16.500 --> 00:48:20.579
And I just thought about again. What transpired

00:48:20.579 --> 00:48:23.800
from the time I typed in the letters that were

00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:26.059
going to be on that plaque to ordering the plaque,

00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:28.800
to having it sent to me, having it paid for,

00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:31.440
to getting it shipped, to getting it hand carried

00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:33.880
over there and have it eventually be on their

00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:36.719
wall. Right. And it's just so cool to see these

00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:42.219
things. They were super proud. Oh, I bet. I bet

00:48:42.219 --> 00:48:45.900
that's a very cool story. Thanks for sharing

00:48:45.900 --> 00:48:50.250
that. Well, John, we are out of time here today,

00:48:50.250 --> 00:48:52.449
but I want to thank you for coming on and sharing

00:48:52.449 --> 00:48:57.289
some information about CQ Worldwide CW coming

00:48:57.289 --> 00:49:00.670
up and all the things around it, and I look forward

00:49:00.670 --> 00:49:04.650
to doing this with you again soon. All righty.

00:49:04.650 --> 00:49:08.469
My pleasure, and please reach out through the

00:49:08.469 --> 00:49:11.449
contact page on the website if you have questions

00:49:11.449 --> 00:49:14.449
or problems or anything that's on your mind.

00:49:14.449 --> 00:49:17.039
I love hearing from people. So don't be shy.

00:49:17.940 --> 00:49:22.619
And that website is cqww .com. Correct? You got

00:49:22.619 --> 00:49:25.420
it. Yep. That's it. All right. So make sure you

00:49:25.420 --> 00:49:28.099
check that out. Looking forward to a busy, uh,

00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:31.760
busy time in a couple of weeks. All right, John,

00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:35.099
thanks so much. For being here and yeah, let's

00:49:35.099 --> 00:49:37.320
let's try to keep John busy with all this stuff.

00:49:37.780 --> 00:49:43.039
So Well, that is a wrap for this edition of ham

00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:45.739
talk live I'd like to thank my guest John door

00:49:45.739 --> 00:49:49.519
k1 AR and everybody out there in cyberspace for

00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:52.260
listening and invite you back next time For a

00:49:52.260 --> 00:49:54.719
list of all of our upcoming guests. Just go to

00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:58.940
ham talk live .com So for now, this is Neil rap

00:49:58.940 --> 00:50:03.170
WB nine VPG saying seven three Seven five and

00:50:03.170 --> 00:50:06.030
may the good DX be yours
