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This is HamTalk Live, episode number 308, Winter

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Field Day, recorded on December 1st, 2022. I'm

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your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG. Thanks for tuning

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in to this episode of HamTalk Live. Tonight,

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we're joined by Marvin Turner, W0MET. from the

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Winter Field Day Association. Last episode John

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Doar K1AR was here to talk about the CQ Worldwide

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CW Contest. If you participated in that I hope

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that went well. If you missed that show you can

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listen anytime hamtalklive .com or on your favorite

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podcast app or on YouTube and you can catch us

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Also on the stream of WTWW, now their on -air

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transmitters are down but they are streaming

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and they're also on WRMI in the evening so you

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can you can check that out as well. We're usually

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on there on Saturday afternoons but haven't heard

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exactly what's going on with the schedule just

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yet. due to the sudden shift to streaming and

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WRMI. So make sure you check them out there.

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Well, anyway, I will be back with Marvin right

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friends. If a man says something in the woods

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You're listening to HamTalk Live with Neil Rapp.

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Welcome back to HamTalk Live. Tonight Marvin

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Turner WZeroMET joins us on the Orlando Amateur

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Radio Club and Amcations Zoom line. Marvin is

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the president of the Stones River Amateur Radio

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Club in Murfreesboro, Tennessee. He's been a

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ham for over 25 years and participates in Parks

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on the Air and he's a member of the Rutherford

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County Ares Group and operates an Arden Mesh

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node there in Murfreesboro. And he is the director

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of this year's Winter Field Day. So, Marvin,

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thanks for coming on to the show here. Good evening,

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Neil. Thanks for having us. Well, we wanted to

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talk a little bit about Winter Field Day because

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that's going to be coming up here in a little

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over a month. and make sure everybody knows what's

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going on. I know you have some exciting changes

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to the program. And so we'll talk about some

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of those later on, but just to quaint everybody

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listening, if they're not familiar with Winter

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Field Day, tell them what it's all about. So

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Winter Field Day is really just a communication

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exercise formatted to help increase your level

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of preparedness. for disasters and improve your

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operational skills in sub -park conditions. We

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operate during the summer. We love to get out

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in the parks. We like to set up our stations

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and we sit comfortably inside our our ham shacks

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and have lots of good times and make great contacts.

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But how does that deer really prepare you when

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you have a disaster in the middle of winter?

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And you know does that generator you know stay

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stay charged or your battery stay charged in

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the winter. Obviously batteries in cold operating

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conditions typically don't last as long as they're

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doing warm. And so it's you know can you hold

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yourself up in that weather? Are you inside a

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tent? Are you in a cargo trailer? Are you in

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a warm building? You know those sort of things.

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So again we talk about those subpar conditions

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and how we can Operate for extended periods of

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time in this case. We're just doing on a 24 hour

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period It's kind of a test run, but that's what

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we really are our main focus Should say the focus

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has always been and we will continue that focus

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as well Very good. Well, I know you've got a

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new group of people working on this and So tell

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tell them how I can find out more about Winter

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field day and find all the rules and everything

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Sure, so We've just created a new website this

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year Winterfield day comm it's been around for

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a long time But I want to back up just a little

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bit is that I took this over beginning the process

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in June and so We've kind of had to create a

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new group of winter field day board of directors.

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And so we've kind of revamped a few things And

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you can go out to our Winterfield Day site. We've

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kept a lot of those things the same. And just

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get winterfieldday .com and you can take a look

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at our site. There's still some changes and things

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that we're still trying to work out on the new

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site. But if you click over to how to participate,

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you'll see right there on your left -hand side

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the 20 -23 rules. You can read them right there

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on the site if you want for just kind of the

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main main information and then you can actually

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click the very top says click here to download

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and you can go ahead and click on that and get

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a pdf copy of those rules for this year all right

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very good winterfielday .com make sure you check

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it out got a nice little intro there on the website

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as well so when is this going to happen what's

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what are the dates and times here So Winterfield

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Day is scheduled for January 28th and 29th, 2023.

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It is the last full weekend of January every

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year. It's been hosted that way since I think

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2007 when Winterfield Day kind of got started

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kicking off and it's kind of kept that time frame

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throughout throughout the years. All right, very

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good. Well, so you've got the rules on the website,

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all of the information about dates and times

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and everything but just kind of summarize how

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how to participate if you happen to be on the

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air that weekend and and you hear somebody operating

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Winterfield day how should they handle that and

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if you go out and set up just just the quick

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summary version of you know what's the exchange

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you know what what can you do what can you not

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do sure so Winter field day exchange consists

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of your call sign, your class, which is it may

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be one, two, three, it can be as many as 14.

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And that class basically needs the number of

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operating positions that you have. So if you

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are out there by yourself and you're doing it

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outdoors in a tent, you'd be one outdoors. If

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you're operating in a building of some sort and

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you've got a small club of three or four people

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and you can be like three indoors So that would

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be your class is your number of stations and

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your category is whether you're indoors outdoors

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Home or mobile and which is a new one we've added

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for this year And so we'll talk about that in

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a minute here. But the exchange continues to

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be the other thing besides your call sign, your

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class, and your category, you also have to exchange

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the location identifier. That means you're, I

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would be like one outdoors since I'm in Tennessee,

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I'm one outdoors Tennessee. And you could, N3FGP

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does a really great job of their winter field

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day software indicating uh what state you're

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in or what region you're in you may be you know

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south texas you may be you know western pennsylvania

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same thing you use for summer field day as we

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typically do uh one thing we've added this year

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is mx and that's for mexico stations which is

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fairly new for us and then obviously anything

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outside the u .s we will go ahead and use dx

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as that um but you must accurately copy and record

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their full exchange of all that information,

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you know, do not change your section during the

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contest either. A lot of people like to, you

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know, change sections and do something different

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and go from, well, I was outdoors, it was cold.

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So I decided to now go inside and go inside.

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So now I'm gonna become one indoors. You're still

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one outdoors. It's still, it just makes things

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really messy in the linking of the. connection

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in the contest software when we're all done with

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that. So if you're one outdoors you stay one

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outdoors and you maintain that throughout the

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whole field day exercise. Now we do write it's

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a contest in there because people are always

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looking for points and they're looking for you

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know how well did I score and so there's that

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whole scoring content scoring portion of it therefore

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it kind of becomes a contest but it's really

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meant to be again back to our basics what I started

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off with this is really a field day communications

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exercise and so then you know again we've added

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the mobile category in there and so you may be

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one mobile and so you may be in a structure like

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an rv a car maybe a trucker of some sort maybe

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it could be a trucker going down the road so

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he could be mobile maybe you're in a cargo trailer

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of some sort maybe your ham radio club has it

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has a cargo trailer and you operate as your emergency

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emergency airing station so that would be a one

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mobile platform at that point this year Very

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cool. That's a lot of information in a very short

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time. Yeah, it is, but that's a good summary

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of what's going on here. And so, and if you're

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like me, you're right on the border of like two

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other states and sections. So if I start in Kentucky,

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I'm not going to switch to Ohio if I go across

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the river here. No, we want you to stay in Kentucky

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at that point for sure. All right. Okay. Well,

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you mentioned a couple of the new things here,

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the Mexico and the mobile category. What are

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some other changes that you've made to the rules

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for this year? One thing, you know, I guess not

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really a major change from years past, but it

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is some of the things that we continue to Always

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try to emphasize is that the stations are still

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limited to 100 watts of maximum power. All logs

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must be in the Cabrillo format when submitted.

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Again, we've got Mexico stations now can use

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MX and N3, FGP, N1, MM. Some of those other logging

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softwares have been updated and told about this

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and are familiar with it. You know, they should

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have that as part of the station identifier in

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their logs now for you to be able to add that

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And again, they've got that mobile category because

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again, it's just not what with whatever we do

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We have to notify those people who are software

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developers that are doing like N3 FGP Just because

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it's the most common I'd say probably 60 to 70

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percent of our users are using N3 FGP So I'm

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mentioning that the most It's not the only one

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out there But again, probably one that's used

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by most people for logging during the winter

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field day. And then we've added an extra antenna

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bonus as well to this year. And those are probably

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the main things that we've done. And then the

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final thing is that FT4, FT8 is not used because

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it doesn't communicate that exchange. That's

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nothing new. But I know we've had some people

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say, hey, can we use this we've had a lot of

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questions coming in via email about it and so

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I want to make sure that I kind of emphasize

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the FT4 FT8 does not communicate the exchange

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that I mentioned earlier and so therefore it

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is not allowed JS8 is an alternative that people

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can use but that is you know still the same that's

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kind of the request of the previous board when

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we took it over that we maintain that and we

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certainly will. Okay. Well, that was a good rundown

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of some of the changes for this year's Winter

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Field Day, so we'll talk some more about that

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and some of these new categories with Marvin

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Turner, W -0 -M -E -T, right after this word

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W -0 -M -E -T, but first it's time for the N9

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GSU Joke of the Week. Now it's time for the HamTalk

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in 9GSU with today's HamTalk Live Joke of the

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Week. I had a really nice HF contact with the

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ham the other day and I asked him what he did

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for a living and he said he had been an archaeologist

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but he gave it up because his life was in ruins.

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This has been the Ham Talk Live, ham radio joke

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of the week with Rick Garrett in 9GSU. Tune in

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again next week for another joke from Rick. We

00:20:43.420 --> 00:20:46.259
are back here on ham talk live with Marvin Turner

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W0MET He is in charge of the winter field day

00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:56.339
and we'll say contest, you know Summer field

00:20:56.339 --> 00:20:59.480
day. There's always this huge argument over is

00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:03.900
it a contest? Is it not a contest and so You're

00:21:03.900 --> 00:21:07.059
going ahead and saying it's a contest You know,

00:21:07.059 --> 00:21:11.039
I think when you start throwing some points in

00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:13.920
there and you know you're trying to make as many

00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:16.220
I mean we say right here in our rules you're

00:21:16.220 --> 00:21:18.640
trying to make as many contacts as possible and

00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:21.359
you've got multipliers in there for so many points

00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:23.240
you're getting or so many contacts you're getting

00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:25.559
so many points and you're getting bonus points

00:21:25.559 --> 00:21:29.779
and I mean what part of that doesn't just yell

00:21:29.779 --> 00:21:34.390
at you and say it's a contest And so it makes

00:21:34.390 --> 00:21:36.990
it really tough not to call it a contest at that

00:21:36.990 --> 00:21:40.769
point. But again, like I said once and twice

00:21:40.769 --> 00:21:43.029
before, is that it's really meant to be a field

00:21:43.029 --> 00:21:46.089
communication exercise on how well you can do.

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And that's something we're kind of maybe looking

00:21:48.569 --> 00:21:53.049
at changing down the road. This year just being

00:21:53.049 --> 00:21:55.930
the fact that it was a short time from the time

00:21:55.930 --> 00:21:59.329
we took it over and preparing for field day 2023,

00:21:59.849 --> 00:22:02.099
we don't have time to make those changes. But

00:22:02.099 --> 00:22:04.039
now after this winter field day, we'll have a

00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:07.160
whole year to prepare for that. So. Yeah, it

00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:12.180
seems like if you keep score, it's a competition.

00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:15.700
So, you know, I know a lot of people have different.

00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:18.700
different opinions on that, but that's the one

00:22:18.700 --> 00:22:22.859
I always seem to get from the young people especially

00:22:22.859 --> 00:22:26.380
is, well, then why do you keep score if it's

00:22:26.380 --> 00:22:31.980
not a contest? Exactly. Well, anyway, we'll go

00:22:31.980 --> 00:22:34.940
ahead and call it a contest, but Marvin's joining

00:22:34.940 --> 00:22:38.759
us here to talk a little bit about Winterfield

00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:41.900
Day and get you ready for that. That's January

00:22:41.900 --> 00:22:47.170
28th and 29th in 2023. and let's talk a little

00:22:47.170 --> 00:22:50.029
bit about submitting logs for this I know you

00:22:50.029 --> 00:22:53.369
need those logs even if you make one contact

00:22:53.369 --> 00:22:56.589
you need a log so you can match these things

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up so talk a little bit about how people should

00:23:00.190 --> 00:23:07.769
submit their logs absolutely so you can find

00:23:07.769 --> 00:23:11.190
some links to some of our logs on our website

00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:14.339
I think N3FJP may be the only one on there right

00:23:14.339 --> 00:23:21.039
at the moment. But N1MM, TR4W, Hammers, which

00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:22.680
is a new one that came out in the last year or

00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:24.599
two that a lot of people use for parks on the

00:23:24.599 --> 00:23:27.019
air. They've also got a winter field day log

00:23:27.019 --> 00:23:30.279
submission. And so I think you have to take that

00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:33.720
one and convert that from an ADIF file to a Cabrillo

00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:37.480
format before you can submit it. But we're submitting

00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:40.720
our winter field day logs in a Cabrillo format

00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:43.720
just like any of the other major contests that

00:23:43.720 --> 00:23:48.299
you would participate in and so you definitely

00:23:48.299 --> 00:23:54.460
need you know the format on the link that will

00:23:54.460 --> 00:23:58.539
be provided on the web page at the time of the

00:23:58.539 --> 00:24:01.890
field day it will be turned on at the time of

00:24:01.890 --> 00:24:06.009
field day on that January 28th. I'll think about

00:24:06.009 --> 00:24:10.109
the date for a moment. And then it will turn

00:24:10.109 --> 00:24:17.150
off by March 1st. And the logs must be submitted

00:24:17.150 --> 00:24:22.259
by March 1st and by midnight at that date. Late

00:24:22.259 --> 00:24:25.059
entries won't and cannot be accepted. They will

00:24:25.059 --> 00:24:27.519
be turned off and there will be no ifs, ands,

00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:30.200
or buts about that. If we did that, we could

00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:32.480
carry this thing all the way out into May, you

00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:34.279
know, some people will just be late getting them

00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:36.819
in there. And we want to be able to try and get

00:24:36.819 --> 00:24:38.759
this on an expedited manner. We get a lot of

00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:42.500
requests about, you know, the, hey, when are

00:24:42.500 --> 00:24:44.079
you submitting the results? When are the results

00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:46.079
coming out? I've seen a lot of emails around

00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:48.859
that in the past years. And so we want to be,

00:24:48.859 --> 00:24:50.759
you know, timely and respective of people getting

00:24:50.759 --> 00:24:53.200
all those in as well. So we just got to do a

00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:55.420
cutoff date and it's just got to be hard, hard

00:24:55.420 --> 00:24:58.859
core to that. And then a lot of people will say,

00:24:58.900 --> 00:25:01.180
hey, you know, I submitted, I found error in

00:25:01.180 --> 00:25:04.859
my log. I want to resubmit it. And so how do

00:25:04.859 --> 00:25:07.019
I go about doing that? And so I was like, versus

00:25:07.019 --> 00:25:09.099
sending us an email, just correct the error in

00:25:09.099 --> 00:25:12.400
your log, resubmit it, and we'll get that corrected

00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:15.619
on IRN because our software, which is used by

00:25:15.619 --> 00:25:18.200
many other contests, as well it's the same software

00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:22.099
being used is it will kick out and say hey there's

00:25:22.099 --> 00:25:25.460
two W0MET logs here and so we'll start to figure

00:25:25.460 --> 00:25:28.660
that out and so then the you know obviously the

00:25:28.660 --> 00:25:30.380
latest version will probably hopefully be the

00:25:30.380 --> 00:25:33.420
be the right one there that we can choose and

00:25:33.420 --> 00:25:35.519
so that will replace the original that you submitted.

00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:39.619
You can submit your logs right online at www

00:25:39.619 --> 00:25:43.680
.winterfieldday .com and once you submit your

00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:45.660
log you should receive a confirmation email.

00:25:46.449 --> 00:25:48.730
If you didn't for some reason, let us know. We

00:25:48.730 --> 00:25:51.890
can be happy to log in and take a look at that

00:25:51.890 --> 00:25:54.369
and see if, in fact, we did get that submitted

00:25:54.369 --> 00:25:58.990
for you. But I'm hoping we don't get a flood

00:25:58.990 --> 00:26:01.950
of emails because of that. But just the fact

00:26:01.950 --> 00:26:04.730
that you should receive a confirmation email

00:26:04.730 --> 00:26:07.230
to help you know that your log has been, in fact,

00:26:07.490 --> 00:26:09.970
submitted at that point. And then we'll end up

00:26:09.970 --> 00:26:12.269
reposting the results on a winter field day.

00:26:12.679 --> 00:26:14.519
Right now we're something trying something new

00:26:14.519 --> 00:26:17.279
where in the past it was in there as a PDF etc

00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:20.240
We're trying to find a way to the guy that we've

00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:22.579
got doing some webmastering for us Is that we're

00:26:22.579 --> 00:26:25.200
actually going to create a database and you should

00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:27.420
be able to dig into that database on the website

00:26:27.420 --> 00:26:32.960
type in W0MET which is my call for example and

00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:36.180
Come up with the results for how I did and give

00:26:36.180 --> 00:26:38.980
you some that some of that data back for you.

00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:41.119
So there's something a little different, something

00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:43.599
a little new. Again, we've kind of revamped some

00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:45.339
of these things that we're trying and doing,

00:26:45.539 --> 00:26:49.900
hopefully making some great improvements. Excellent

00:26:49.900 --> 00:26:53.519
job. Marvin Turner, WZeroMET from Winter Field

00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:57.599
Day is joining us here on HamTalk Live. Let's

00:26:57.599 --> 00:27:00.700
talk about the station locator. I know as we're

00:27:00.700 --> 00:27:04.960
recording this, it's not ready to go yet, but

00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:07.119
talk a little bit about the station locator.

00:27:09.079 --> 00:27:12.660
So we You know again, we've revamped that website

00:27:12.660 --> 00:27:16.339
made new colors new looks Made a few changes

00:27:16.339 --> 00:27:18.660
to the bear just a little bit on tweaking a few

00:27:18.660 --> 00:27:25.839
minor Character things about it but the field

00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:29.920
day map it was on the old website as well and

00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:31.920
We just found a guy the last couple days here

00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:34.559
that can go in and create that field day map

00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:36.559
and they'll show you all the station where all

00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:38.599
the stations are going to be. So I encourage

00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:42.359
everyone to reach out. Let's call it today being

00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:46.039
Thursday, December 1st. Let's push this out to

00:27:46.039 --> 00:27:48.019
the beginning of next week and hopefully that

00:27:48.019 --> 00:27:50.660
new map will be updated with Google Maps. If

00:27:50.660 --> 00:27:52.599
you do go out there and put your station for

00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:55.380
winter field day that you'll be doing and where

00:27:55.380 --> 00:27:57.859
that's going to be on our map. and we'd love

00:27:57.859 --> 00:27:59.779
to see the number of field day stations that

00:27:59.779 --> 00:28:02.240
are out there and maybe you're listening to this

00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:04.140
and you're not a ham operator and you want to

00:28:04.140 --> 00:28:05.839
know what a field day station is or you want

00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:07.900
to know where to go this will be the website

00:28:07.900 --> 00:28:11.640
to go and find that out and certainly go to one

00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:14.440
of those places and and we do have a question

00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:16.339
in there that we're asking people who submit

00:28:16.339 --> 00:28:19.660
a field day station location that they can choose

00:28:19.660 --> 00:28:21.819
if this is a private or a public event that people

00:28:21.819 --> 00:28:24.539
can come to. So some may just want to go pop

00:28:24.539 --> 00:28:26.039
up a tent in the middle of the woods and operate

00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:28.359
and they don't want nobody around. Then others

00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:29.980
may have clubs that they say, yeah, it's a public

00:28:29.980 --> 00:28:32.200
event. We want people to come and be a part of

00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:37.480
it. So that is coming to us. But just give us

00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:39.880
a couple of days to get that wrapped up and squared

00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:43.700
away. and so that will hopefully be a better

00:28:43.700 --> 00:28:46.619
interactive map here very soon. The other thing

00:28:46.619 --> 00:28:49.180
was that we had a contact form on our webpage

00:28:49.180 --> 00:28:54.940
and that was one of those things that we were

00:28:54.940 --> 00:28:57.519
getting spammed right and left and we just had

00:28:57.519 --> 00:28:59.819
to cut it off the other day till we can get some

00:28:59.819 --> 00:29:02.420
other things fixed and just email us directly

00:29:02.420 --> 00:29:07.970
at wfda at winterfieldday .com and You know,

00:29:07.970 --> 00:29:10.289
we will respond to you as soon as we can. Again,

00:29:10.490 --> 00:29:11.650
I'm kind of getting a lot of emails this time

00:29:11.650 --> 00:29:13.329
of year. You know, starting to get a lot of questions

00:29:13.329 --> 00:29:15.990
asked. So be patient. We will respond to each

00:29:15.990 --> 00:29:19.950
and every one of them. All right. And as always,

00:29:20.029 --> 00:29:23.130
take a look at the website. We, you know, most

00:29:23.130 --> 00:29:25.289
of the things that you need to know are there.

00:29:25.349 --> 00:29:29.470
So take a look at that. But if not, it's great

00:29:29.470 --> 00:29:31.930
to know that someone's keeping an eye on the

00:29:31.930 --> 00:29:34.990
inbox there. Um, well, let's talk a little bit

00:29:34.990 --> 00:29:37.329
about the future. I know you, you've mentioned

00:29:37.329 --> 00:29:40.089
a few things that, uh, you're still looking to

00:29:40.089 --> 00:29:43.390
change and, and do so. So what are your plans

00:29:43.390 --> 00:29:49.930
for the future? So, um, we are talking in terms

00:29:49.930 --> 00:29:53.970
of a contest a minute ago and is one of those

00:29:53.970 --> 00:29:57.309
things that we're kind of looking at maybe finding

00:29:57.309 --> 00:30:01.769
a way to make this more call it objective based.

00:30:02.379 --> 00:30:04.839
so you have certain objectives that you will

00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:08.000
have to accomplish to or certain stations maybe

00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:10.240
you'll have to try and reach out and touch like

00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:14.240
you would for Route 66 or Maybe you'll do like

00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:18.259
13 colonies And so, you know, you know we can

00:30:18.259 --> 00:30:20.700
do this objective base where are you running

00:30:20.700 --> 00:30:23.579
a generator? Are you running a battery? Are you

00:30:23.579 --> 00:30:28.779
running, you know for eight hours? You know different

00:30:28.779 --> 00:30:30.799
things like that that we can start to throw together

00:30:31.069 --> 00:30:33.369
I know we've kind of created a small list of

00:30:33.369 --> 00:30:35.029
some other things. I don't want to throw it all

00:30:35.029 --> 00:30:39.390
out there yet, but more of a checklist of things

00:30:39.390 --> 00:30:41.950
that you've accomplished. And then in the end,

00:30:42.089 --> 00:30:45.390
you would basically send that in with your log

00:30:45.390 --> 00:30:47.849
showing that you've accomplished these items.

00:30:48.250 --> 00:30:51.309
And then you end up getting a certificate in

00:30:51.309 --> 00:30:54.230
response for that. I'll be honest, I just got

00:30:54.230 --> 00:30:57.329
my 13 colonies certificate in the mail today

00:30:57.329 --> 00:31:00.750
and I could have been happier. I was like, finally

00:31:00.750 --> 00:31:04.390
I got that certificate from 13 colonies and it

00:31:04.390 --> 00:31:07.049
was kind of a joy to see it and get it and something

00:31:07.049 --> 00:31:09.029
I enjoyed having. And I think a lot of people

00:31:09.029 --> 00:31:12.150
do like that. A lot of people pay the three or

00:31:12.150 --> 00:31:15.089
four dollars to get their certificate back from

00:31:15.089 --> 00:31:20.150
organizations or fun field day events like that.

00:31:20.490 --> 00:31:23.269
And so something we're kind of considering exploring.

00:31:23.809 --> 00:31:32.490
We'll see where it goes. But yeah. Okay. What

00:31:32.490 --> 00:31:35.009
are your numbers? What are some of the stats

00:31:35.009 --> 00:31:41.650
here from winter field days in the past? Sure.

00:31:43.009 --> 00:31:49.210
So some of our stats in the past have been For

00:31:49.210 --> 00:31:52.009
like just this past year in 2022, we were over

00:31:52.009 --> 00:31:55.710
2 ,500 logs were submitted So that's probably

00:31:55.710 --> 00:31:59.529
a little over 6 ,000 participants Is that we're

00:31:59.529 --> 00:32:02.390
kind of you know looking at for numbers roughly

00:32:02.390 --> 00:32:06.549
619 individual clubs sent in logs. So we're glad

00:32:06.549 --> 00:32:08.509
to see that so that's pretty good numbers. I

00:32:08.509 --> 00:32:11.990
think There are 512 logs claimed the bonus of

00:32:11.990 --> 00:32:14.289
using alternative power. So obviously nothing

00:32:14.289 --> 00:32:17.779
on commercial power And that was really good

00:32:17.779 --> 00:32:20.539
to see about how many of those were being submitted.

00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:22.539
I would love to see a lot more using some type

00:32:22.539 --> 00:32:26.259
of alternative power than that. But, you know,

00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:29.380
again, the whole operational point is to see

00:32:29.380 --> 00:32:31.420
how long you can operate on other alternatives,

00:32:31.420 --> 00:32:34.539
right? What I found really interesting was North

00:32:34.539 --> 00:32:36.720
Carolina was one of the most active states with

00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:40.160
110 stations on the air. I was like, that's pretty

00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:41.579
incredible. So something I wouldn't have thought

00:32:41.579 --> 00:32:43.420
about, something I didn't know, but going back

00:32:43.420 --> 00:32:45.420
and looking at the logs, that's what we're finding

00:32:45.420 --> 00:32:49.099
out. And then in between the US and Canada, all

00:32:49.099 --> 00:32:51.779
but a couple of ARRL RAC sessions had activity.

00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:55.359
So I'd love to see those other sections. I don't

00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:57.619
have what those are right off the top of my head,

00:32:58.180 --> 00:33:01.880
what those sections of ARRL were, but we'd love

00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:04.500
to see all sections have some form of participation.

00:33:05.059 --> 00:33:07.160
for everybody to be able to reach out to every

00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:09.519
one of those and and see how well they can talk

00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:13.460
to the You know to the other areas or other states

00:33:13.460 --> 00:33:16.440
at least and then again most pipeline software

00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:18.559
I said between 60 and 70 percent of our users

00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:24.779
are using in 3f JP software and so That's pretty

00:33:24.779 --> 00:33:27.680
good for Scott over there who does develop a

00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.400
really great software. We've been in touch with

00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:32.220
him a couple times this year and he's pretty

00:33:32.220 --> 00:33:34.559
excited to get this put together for us as well.

00:33:35.339 --> 00:33:39.519
And then 2023 will be our 17th year. So I've

00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:41.599
got something to look forward to that we can

00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:44.019
come up on 20 years and not sure what that's

00:33:44.019 --> 00:33:45.819
going to look like, but definitely looking at

00:33:45.819 --> 00:33:48.779
some future and some thoughts around that and

00:33:48.779 --> 00:33:52.559
some excitement hopefully for 2023. All right,

00:33:52.579 --> 00:33:55.759
and you know there's a lot to do here to take

00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:59.400
this on and We definitely want to thank you and

00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:03.599
your team for Working to do this and of course

00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:06.920
some sponsorships are always Helpful as well.

00:34:06.940 --> 00:34:09.500
So talk a little bit about the sponsorships of

00:34:09.500 --> 00:34:13.960
this Sure. So yeah, we've got a great board.

00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:18.079
My brother W4OPS is my creative services major

00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:21.409
Jason Johnson I can't remember his call sign,

00:34:21.590 --> 00:34:26.789
but he's one of the board members, and he's kind

00:34:26.789 --> 00:34:28.949
of doing our social media for us. We have a guy

00:34:28.949 --> 00:34:32.010
out of Kansas that's doing our newsletters and

00:34:32.010 --> 00:34:33.769
things like that, and a lady out of Chattanooga,

00:34:33.769 --> 00:34:36.250
Tennessee who's doing our treasury stuff. And

00:34:36.250 --> 00:34:39.369
so it does take a whole board of people to be

00:34:39.369 --> 00:34:42.039
able to make this operate. And to make this go,

00:34:42.219 --> 00:34:46.099
we've got a lot of other additional side members

00:34:46.099 --> 00:34:50.260
that are kind of auxiliary people that are helping

00:34:50.260 --> 00:34:52.400
out with contesting and the website, things like

00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.679
that. So it's more than just the five of us.

00:34:56.420 --> 00:34:58.480
And of course, it takes a little bit of operation

00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:01.739
to run some marketing, whether it's pamphlets

00:35:01.739 --> 00:35:02.920
and things like that. We're going to try and

00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:06.980
do some ham radio shows, ham fest along the way.

00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:09.579
And then, of course, just the cost of running

00:35:09.579 --> 00:35:12.769
a website. and getting a website built, et cetera,

00:35:12.829 --> 00:35:16.550
things like that. So we've got some sponsors

00:35:16.550 --> 00:35:19.170
and our biggest one obviously being our corporate

00:35:19.170 --> 00:35:22.670
partner ICOM. Ray Novak was great in getting

00:35:22.670 --> 00:35:26.670
us some contact there and helping us out with

00:35:26.670 --> 00:35:29.949
the sponsorship from a corporate level. And so

00:35:29.949 --> 00:35:33.650
they are our official sponsor of Winterfield

00:35:33.650 --> 00:35:36.630
Day at this point. and then we've got some other

00:35:36.630 --> 00:35:39.969
club sponsors and some other donors as well that

00:35:39.969 --> 00:35:41.829
people have you know contribute along the way

00:35:41.829 --> 00:35:43.909
because our website right now is kind of in that

00:35:43.909 --> 00:35:45.710
transition of trying to get switched over to

00:35:45.900 --> 00:35:50.059
Maintain the same format, but it's getting changed

00:35:50.059 --> 00:35:53.019
over just a little bit to fix that mapping software

00:35:53.019 --> 00:35:56.980
issue. I don't have the other newest donors listed

00:35:56.980 --> 00:35:59.199
up on there yet, but if you have donated, we

00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:01.940
do appreciate it. We kind of did a little bit

00:36:01.940 --> 00:36:05.599
of a giving campaign on Tuesday. I haven't seen

00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:08.280
many numbers have come in from that yet, but

00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:13.460
it does cost a little bit to operate this. organization

00:36:13.460 --> 00:36:16.019
and you know we're not getting paid for all volunteer

00:36:16.019 --> 00:36:18.739
at this point but it's just the cost of kind

00:36:18.739 --> 00:36:21.699
of doing business in general that we have to

00:36:21.699 --> 00:36:24.139
kind of maintain a little bit so we appreciate

00:36:24.139 --> 00:36:26.940
anything that someone would like to donate and

00:36:26.940 --> 00:36:29.639
again thank ICOM America for all that they do

00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:34.920
for us as well so all right very good uh well

00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:38.019
last thing here it's mentioned some miscellaneous

00:36:38.019 --> 00:36:43.869
rules some some clarifications that may have

00:36:43.869 --> 00:36:47.670
caused some issues in the past or something new.

00:36:48.010 --> 00:36:52.909
So just kind of tie this up here with a few of

00:36:52.909 --> 00:36:57.289
the miscellaneous rules in the contest. Sure,

00:36:57.289 --> 00:37:00.730
appreciate that. So some of the things that we

00:37:00.730 --> 00:37:05.550
have seen in the past that people have asked

00:37:05.550 --> 00:37:09.469
about was any rules governing amateur radio at

00:37:09.469 --> 00:37:11.010
your location must be observed throughout the

00:37:11.010 --> 00:37:16.570
event. If you're a general class operator, you're

00:37:16.570 --> 00:37:19.090
operating on a general class license. Unless

00:37:19.090 --> 00:37:23.110
your club is like an extra, your trustee is an

00:37:23.110 --> 00:37:24.809
extra class license, then you can operate under

00:37:24.809 --> 00:37:29.150
that extra class at that point. And again, any

00:37:29.150 --> 00:37:33.579
mode that is used. must be faithfully transmitted

00:37:33.579 --> 00:37:35.880
to the exchange without any type of conversion

00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:44.460
table. You can only work one band per mode. All

00:37:44.460 --> 00:37:49.019
voice contacts are equivalent across the board.

00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:54.960
Same with CW, digital contacts. One of the questions

00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:58.119
we get is crossband contacts. You can't use any

00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:00.420
crossband contacts, but satellites are kind of

00:38:00.420 --> 00:38:03.690
the exception to that. And then, of course, no

00:38:03.690 --> 00:38:06.889
repeater contacts or DMR may be transmitted because

00:38:06.889 --> 00:38:09.889
DMR is using some form of repeater on either

00:38:09.889 --> 00:38:11.650
the transmitting or the receiving end to make

00:38:11.650 --> 00:38:14.969
that contact. So that repeater doesn't work either.

00:38:15.650 --> 00:38:17.250
But those are a lot of the questions we kind

00:38:17.250 --> 00:38:22.349
of get throughout. Those are kind of called the

00:38:22.349 --> 00:38:23.849
highlight of our frequently asked questions.

00:38:24.269 --> 00:38:26.969
but hopefully that will you know again if someone

00:38:26.969 --> 00:38:29.909
has we've had quite a few questions come in but

00:38:29.909 --> 00:38:31.469
if you do have a question after reading over

00:38:31.469 --> 00:38:33.449
the rules again that's kind of important you

00:38:33.449 --> 00:38:35.389
do read through them and you know maybe read

00:38:35.389 --> 00:38:36.969
through them a little bit twice even to help

00:38:36.969 --> 00:38:39.349
understand it but we've taken it from like 11

00:38:39.349 --> 00:38:42.829
pages of a lot of information down to about you

00:38:42.829 --> 00:38:44.849
know six or seven trying to shorten it trying

00:38:44.849 --> 00:38:47.210
to make a little bit more short and sweet make

00:38:47.210 --> 00:38:49.309
a little more simplified for people to be able

00:38:49.309 --> 00:38:50.769
to feel like they can read through it without

00:38:50.769 --> 00:38:53.920
being overwhelmed with the information so We

00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:56.800
hope that that is helpful to them and that they

00:38:56.800 --> 00:38:59.059
can reach out to us if they do have any questions

00:38:59.059 --> 00:39:04.000
in regards to the field day and any rules that

00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:06.980
they're governing what we're asking to have done

00:39:06.980 --> 00:39:11.159
for the winter field day. So hopefully that's

00:39:11.159 --> 00:39:14.300
helpful and I appreciate you asking that. All

00:39:14.300 --> 00:39:17.860
right. Marvin, thank you so much for joining

00:39:17.860 --> 00:39:19.840
us tonight, taking some time out to talk about

00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:21.820
Winter Field Day. Remind everybody about the

00:39:21.820 --> 00:39:26.119
website and the dates just one last time. So

00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:29.739
again, Winter Field Day is January 28th and 29th,

00:39:29.739 --> 00:39:35.260
and that is starting at, give me just one second,

00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:37.760
I just saw it here a second ago, there we go,

00:39:38.099 --> 00:39:42.519
at 1900 UTC on Saturday, and it ends at 1859

00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:47.460
UTC on Sunday. You have some stations set up

00:39:47.460 --> 00:39:51.400
time beforehand, but that'll happen January 20th

00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.239
and 29th. The last weekend in January will be

00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:56.340
Winterfield Day like it is every year for 2023.

00:39:57.340 --> 00:39:59.679
So we hope to have everyone out there and have

00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:03.280
more stations join us this year. All right. Well,

00:40:03.300 --> 00:40:06.980
thanks so much and look forward to Winterfield

00:40:06.980 --> 00:40:10.880
Day coming up here in just a little over a month.

00:40:11.019 --> 00:40:14.460
So thanks. Appreciate it. No problem. Thanks

00:40:14.460 --> 00:40:16.780
for having me on here this evening and you know,

00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:21.260
sorry three All right, that is a wrap for this

00:40:21.260 --> 00:40:23.320
edition of ham talk live I'd like to thank my

00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:26.840
guest Marvin Turner W zero MET and Everyone out

00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:29.079
there in cyberspace for listening and invite

00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:31.980
you back next time for a list of all of our upcoming

00:40:31.980 --> 00:40:36.360
guests Just go to ham talk live .com So for now,

00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:39.659
this is Neil rap WB nine VPG saying seven to

00:40:39.659 --> 00:40:44.340
three seven five and made the good DX Be yours.

00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:16.460
Check it with Rick, it seems clear We're warm

00:41:16.460 --> 00:41:20.500
and cozy in our shack So we have talked about

00:41:20.500 --> 00:41:24.679
thousands of things About shoes, about ships,

00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:29.159
about sealing wax About cabbages and kings
