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special event recorded on Monday, December 12th,
2022. I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9's VPG. Thanks
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back to HamTalk Live. Tonight, Sally Rosato,
K2RYD, and Lou Maggio, NO2C join us on the Orlando
Amateur Radio Club and Hamcation Zoom line. Sally
and Lou are here to talk about the 12 Days of
Christmas special event. Sally, K2RYD, came up
with the idea and they've operated and managed
it together. This is the fourth year of the event,
and they are members of the Great South Bay Amateur
Radio Club in Long Island, New York. So, Sally
and Lou, welcome back to the show. Thank you.
Thank you very much. Well, there's all these
special events going on this month, and yet another
one that we're featuring here on AmTALK Live
is the 12 Days of Christmas. So we want to talk
a little bit about it. So Sally, tell us how
this all got started and some of the history
behind the 12 days of Christmas special event.
Okay. Well, it started in 2017 and I was at a
meeting at Gisborne and we were talking about
special events and someone said, Oh, we should
run a special event for the 12 days of Christmas.
So I said, well, that's a really good idea. So
I. Ran with it and I Lou and I we Decided what
we were going to do. We had a lot, you know different
operators from the club helped us out a lot I
had I sent emails to operators from different
Special events that I had called in and everybody
got on board. I had like 20 operators the first
year and Every year it's the same operators,
and then I add some more. This year I have quite
a few new ones. I still have my Gisborne alumni.
They're still going to operate for me. And you,
Neil, you're even going to operate for me. I
am going to operate as best I can from the from
the new QTH inside of the HOA, but I'll give
it a shot. So we'll get some QSOs. uh... sent
out here from northern kentucky so uh... well
let's talk a little bit about uh... last time
around how did things go last time around and
i know last year you had uh... you had to uh...
qrx for a little while so tell everybody about
uh... uh... what happened last year and and then
the last time that you were able to run the event
Well, the last time I run the event was a third
annual was in 2020 and Last year my horse was
having a lot of health issues. So I decided I
was not in the mood So I decided not to have
the events because I wouldn't have operated people
did volunteer to run it for me But I just was
not in the mood. It was a you know, not a good
time for me But we're back. So how did it go
last time? You have any numbers on how it went
last time? Anything to report? Well, we had over
10 ,000 queues last in 2020. We were trying to
break the 13 ,000 record, but we didn't. And
I don't know if conditions were that great, but
well, we can only go up from zero from last year.
So whatever we do this year. We really just need
one more. That's right. I have a lot of new operators
this year. I have operators from Voice of America,
from Last Man Standing, from the world's largest
teapot, from the K -3 FBI, 13 Colonies, K -2
Heroes. I have so many new operators. Well, what
am I looking for? My alumni, my old standbys.
Yeah, so it should be a good one. Well, that's
pretty cool. I just want to say, you know, last
year when I sent out the email, you know, I put
on my QRZ page that I wasn't going to be having
the event. So many hands, you know, wrote in.
They really did. They contacted Sally and It
was great. I know the circumstances were not
good, but it's nice to know that the support
was there. Yeah, it was good that way. So we're
looking for a really good event this year. I
can't wait. It starts on the 14th at 800, at
zero hundred. So hopefully a lot of my operators
will be on. We have Sideband. CW and we have
one guy doing satellite. He can do anything he
wants He wants everybody gets assigned a call
sign and some signs have four operators on that
three I know John in Virginia. He's a 13 colonies
Operator and he I give him a sign all to himself
because he just goes he's on the radio 24 hours
a day, I think We have operators in Kentucky,
you are in Kentucky, Indiana, Virginia, Arizona,
Ohio, Nebraska. We have, and I got my last operator
today in California. So I have West coast coverage.
And this year we're going to do the call sign,
which goes from W2P for partridge to W2D for
drumming. And we're going to have the operators
use a stroke with their call area. So people
who have beam antennas, they can turn their beam
to the six call area or the two call area or
the four call area and get through because I
had some complaints that they didn't hear. They
don't know where the operator is, so they can't
point their beams or get a good line of communication.
So we have the stroke this year, and hopefully
it'll be good. Hopefully we'll get a lot more
contacts than we have. It'll be a record year.
And a lot of guys are going to operate sports.
Yes, and I have one guy from Brooklyn, James.
He, you know, whenever we talk on the radio,
doing a special event or me calling in or him
calling in, I just know who he is from his accent.
You could tell them from Brooklyn from my accent.
And we just say, Oh, my Brooklyn buddy. And we
talk on the radio and, uh, he came onto the intrepid.
I operated from the intrepid this year and I
invited him to come on and operate with us cause
he was bugging me for two years to do so. So
I finally said, okay, you can come on the intrepid.
And since then he, uh, He wanted to operate for
12 days, so I gave him a call sign and he's going
to be good. He's going to operate from the park,
so he'll do poda and also the 12 days. Don't
forget he did work us from the Aleutian Islands.
Yes, he did. He did. And he also brought me home
a rock. So you heard it here first. The way you
become a 12 days of Christmas operator, if you
want to, is that you really bug Sally. So everybody
right in to, no, no, no, just kidding. But yeah,
you know, there's a lot of, a lot of good ops
here and a lot of seasoned special event operators
here. And you all helped out and really got the
last man standing event, which was huge. Got
that off the ground and running. Um, just so
many people, uh, appreciated that. And, um, so
we're looking forward to, uh, to a good one,
uh, this year. So, so Lou, what have you been
up to here to, to, I know you, you run a lot
of logs and get, get everything through here.
What are you doing to support your wife's, uh,
cause here? Let me just say if it wasn't for
him. I wouldn't be able to do this because he
handles all the logging, all the, you know, getting
the certificate, the, when email everybody to
pick up this certificate. So he's, he's, he's
handling a lot for me. So I'm grateful for him.
Basically, what winds up happening is we try
to keep the operators up to date as to how many
contacts. So as people tell me, how many contacts
they've had every day, I keep a running total
on Discord. And I also accumulate all the logs
as they send them in to me so I can see how many
states we've worked, how many countries we've
worked, and just kind of keep that out there
just for the ops. The ops are the only ones that
see that on Discord. And that's worked really
well. And plus Sally monitors the totals and
she will switch off operators. She'll switch,
tell an operator to switch to a different call
sign. Because to get the clean sweep, you have
to work all 12. And sometimes they fall behind,
propagation can cause you issues. So I try to
keep all those numbers up to date for Sally,
plus I operate. This year, I'm going to also
be in a park. So I'm going to go to some parks
and operate. Because that is definitely a magnet.
When you get out there on Pota, it's a magnet.
So we have a park at the end of the block. We're
300 feet away from a park. So I'll be in there
and operate with one of the call signs as a Pota
park, which is not hard to do. And it does encourage
people to call you. So I think that's going to
be very exciting too. So I'm looking forward
to this. And you were telling me before the show,
you've worked a couple of parks. Yeah, I just
recently passed 5 ,500 parks. So I have worked
and confirmed by the way, it's confirmed also
5 ,500 parks. Sally is at about 2 ,600. Parks
because Sally doesn't do CW. So I'm sometimes
too lazy to get off the couch to come into the
shack, too But she's honest, yes, yeah the Aleutian
Islands The Aleutian Islands was a really good
one when James went to the Aleutian Islands we
were able to work him and And the conversation
went like this I hear Sally! I hear Sally! And
James started yelling and the other operators
that were in the tents next to where he was were
telling us the story that he picked her voice
out, which he does. That's KB2FMH, by the way.
So he picked her voice out and that got him,
you know, so he worked me on CWN voice and Sally
on sideband. So it was good. It was a good thing.
And I do enjoy chasing the parks. It's fun. In
fact, we worked at Alcatraz. Alcatraz Island.
It was a woman. She set up there 50 watts on
Alcatraz Island and we worked her. That was pretty
exciting just to get through. So it's I do enjoy
doing that. Well, how do people find out the
call signs that are in the special event so they
know which ones? They still need and how do they
submit logs or get certificates or that kind
of thing? Well, people can keep track of the
12 days that they get. That's up to them. That's
not up to me. What they do is lots of people
sneak. Oh, I worked all 12 The slide most of
the time we're not gonna it we're not the 12
days of Christmas police, but we like honesty,
but Oh God, what was the question? The list the
list of call signs to get By the way, I'm going
in so many different directions. The QRZ page
for K2RYD has all the information for all the
call signs and also the certificate information.
It's not updated. The certificate information
is not updated yet because we don't have the
certificate. What's on there is probably the
old certificate. So once we get the certificate,
we'll put it up there and You can't get until
after January 30th because we have to get all
the logs in and from all the operators and sometimes
that takes a while to do And that's about it.
So and I you know, I can people pick up their
certificates from their email, but sometimes
an operator they call will say oh, I'm blind
or whatever so we mail them a certificate and
That's how we get everybody to get their certificate.
It's up to them. So check out qrz .com and k2ryd
and you'll see the list of call signs and all
the information on how to log in and download
the certificate once you have have that clean
sweep. We have 12 drummers drumming, 11 lords
leaping. I'm starting to lose it. You don't want
me to say it, do you? Well, sure. Okay, so there's
W2P is partridge in a pantry, two turtle doves,
three French hens, four calling birds, five golden
rings, six geese laying, seven swans are swimming,
eight maids are milking, nine ladies dancing,
10 lords are leaping, 11... Piper's Piper's piping
and 12 Yeah, I'm an 11 I'm an 11. Yeah, I'm 11
11 Piper's piping I think The problem here Sally
is that I've heard so many of the other Renditions
of the 12 days of Christmas With all the wrong
words that now I lose track of the right words
Used to do the wrong words too, until I started
doing this event. And then there's the picture
of Danny Partridge in a tree. And people are
like, yeah, Danny Partridge from the Partridge
family. And they're like, yeah, that's a sign
that you're old. If you know, if you get the
joke, you know, if you see Danny sitting in a
tree that, you know, that's. not in my partridge
in a pear tree all right well we're going to
take a break here and uh pay some bills and we're
going to come back with sally and lou and talk
a little more about the 12 days of christmas
special event and another special event on the
25th of december that lou will tell us about
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with Sally K2RYD and Lou NO2C. They are in charge
of the 12 Days of Christmas special event coming
soon to a radio near you and we want to finish
up a few things here and then we're going to
talk about another special event that's a little
more... Targeted will say that the 12 days of
Christmas where everybody gets involved. But,
uh, first of all, some of the, some of the logs
and QSL stuff here. So, so we just want to make
it clear that, that where, where are all these,
you know, the verifications coming from Lou,
do people need to send you logs and, and QSL
cards and all that? No, as a matter of fact,
we would prefer that they didn't send it. The
operators, similar to the way 13 colonies does
it, the operators are the key to the whole thing.
And you send in the, our operator sends our logs,
we put that on a website, and then you just go
in and you enter your call. And if you've worked
all 12, it will... You can download a certificate
or actually email you a certificate that says
Clean Sweep on it or let's say only work one.
You can download a certificate that says 12 days
of Christmas and it checks off which one you
work. No, we don't have that. Oh, we don't have
that. No, we forgot that. Forget that. It was
last night standing. Yeah. And it'll give you
a certificate that doesn't say Clean Sweep. I'm
getting all my certificates mixed up. You just
need to work one, 12 days, one day for a certificate
or 12 for a clean sweep. Yep. And it's easy.
But you don't have to do anything. You don't
have to submit anything to us. You just go to
the website. We will email everybody at the end
that that worked us. If your email is good in
QRZ, we will be sending you an email saying,
please pick up your certificate. So people also
need to remember That if they don't have their
email in QRS ad to put it in there and make sure
it's up to date Yeah, what if what if and if
they don't how what do they do? Well, they can
still go to the website after January 30th They
can go to the certificate website still put their
colon and it'll tell them You know, they'll give
it to them if they if they are in the logs So
it's not that it has to be in there. It's just
that We know that people are looking for the
certificate about 30 seconds after the event
starts About 30 seconds in you get the first
I can't find the certificates Yes, so even though
we're telling people it's deliberately not up
on the QRZ page the links not there yet They
still go looking for it. The link will be there
January 30th. Yeah, we'll turn it on. Or when
we're done. If we're done with the logs and the
logs are all processed. And the certificate is
done. Then we'll make the link available. So
it's pretty straightforward like that. And we've
done a lot of certificates for a lot of events.
So we've got that down for you. Yeah, you sure
do. All right. So again, No, no QSLs. No logs
just punch in your your call sign and you download
your certificate and Let's kind of reiterate
to you on the stroke call district things because
Yeah, there are some people I am NOT one of these
people fortunate enough to have this technology,
but there are some people that that the beam
will automatically turn to whatever position
qrz .com says it is and So, you know when you
have multiple operators in multiple states in
multiple places You can't really do that. And
so you're trying out something new this year
with the stroke and then the number to At least
know kind of which direction to point Um, so,
you know, for instance, let's see, I'm, um, Piper's
piping. Is it K is it K two? No, you are K two
P K two P. So I'm going to be K two P stroke
four. Right. Right. So that's what you would
put on the, on the spotting program. stroke four
and you can say it if you want you don't say
it every time just say stroke four you know k2p
stroke four every once in a while because people
are going to be there's be 50 people waiting
to talk to you now i'm not sure what i'm going
to do with the new york operators yet because
it's it's a two call it's a two you know so i
don't know if it should be stroke two or whatever
so just if you If there is no stroke, then it's
probably a New York operator. Otherwise, there'll
be a stroke with the call area. One thing, Nia,
I want to stress, if you're a handicap hand,
blind or have an issue and downloading and printing
the certificate is an issue for you, but they
still want it. It's going to be everybody. It's
going to be everybody. If you tell us that when
you work us, we will print it out ourselves on
cardstock and mail it to you. For a small fee.
No, no fee. Be happy to do it because we do get
we do get two or three of them every event. We
get two or three people who. have no way to print
they just can't do it and uh no if you don't
have a printer is one thing you can go to your
friend's house and get I said handicapped handicapped
yeah not anybody who doesn't have a printer no
and we've you know we've done that in the past
for them and and it's worked quite well yeah
Okay, well that's very, very kind of you to do
all of that. So it's the 12 Days of Christmas
special event. Again, for more information, QRZ
.com and look up K2RYD, Romeo, Yankee, Delta,
and you'll see the whole list of all of the people
there and you can talk to crazy people like...
like me and, and Paul Brown is also going to
be on K2P and, and who knows who knows who you're
going to get. So, um, that's a lot of fun. Well,
Lou, this is, this is your special event here.
You've got this other special event on December
25th, but Uh, and I guess everybody can participate,
but it's really kind of geared toward a very
select few. Tell us about the December 25th special
event. It was kind of unusual. Uh, in our club,
uh, Karen KD2GUT is a member. I did say KD2,
I thought KD2GUT. And we were talking one night
and it came out that both of us were born on
Christmas day. So. Karen, she switched immediately
into editor role and she said, why don't we do
a special event for Christmas birthdays? So that's
what we do. And so on Christmas day, the two
of us get on the air and it's just a fun thing.
And we operate typically make 100 to 200 contacts
and they get a special certificate for working
us on Christmas day. And we bounce on and off
the air during the course of the day. Karen is
on and I'm on. And anyone else that happens to
be a Christmas birthday can join us. You know,
it depends. But it's pretty popular. We do some
VHF, we switch around. And there is a certificate.
There is a certificate for it, yes. And this
will be the fifth year? This is the fifth year.
This is the fifth year we'll be doing it. So
and it just was a coincidence when we found out
there were two of us in the club. I guess Christmas
Day people are just home. you know, enjoying
their families, whatever, and the hams have to
run into the ham shack for something, so they
just call, they see the call, sign on the cluster,
and they just say, happy birthday. Happy birthday,
you know. But is it because they have fewer presents
to open because their birthday and Christmas
are on the same day, so they... No. No, because
it's not. Yes. It's not hams in need. I will
tell you a quick story. You don't have to be
born on that day to call in. I will tell you
a quick story. We were at a parade recently,
Sally Road in a parade and a woman comes up to
me and she's very pregnant and I hear her talking
to a friend and she's saying, I really want to
find someone born on Christmas. I want to ask
them a question. I said, well, you did. I'm here.
Here I am. And she said, I just want to know
if my child is going to hate his birthday if
he's born on Christmas. I said, oh no, no, it's
the opposite. Everybody will be jealous. And
she said, why do you say that? I said, well,
number one, I was born on Christmas, so I know.
And I said, what happens is the whole family
is always together. You're not going to be doing
it on the weekend when Aunt Millie is having
her birthday. It's not going to happen like that.
It's going to happen on your birthday. And you
get two presents, of course. So I said to her,
I said to her, he or she, they didn't know what
the sex of the baby was yet. I said, he or she
will be thrilled with Christmas as a birthday.
It's a wonderful birthday and I wouldn't trade
it for the world. So Karen and I do this thing
and we've done it, now this will be what, the
fifth or the sixth year? Fifth year. Fifth year.
So it's a fun birthday. Yeah, yeah sounds like
a lot of fun. All right. Well, we're going to
to wrap this up here but I want to thank both
of you for taking the time out to come on the
show and share with us about the 12 days of Christmas
as well as Making all of this happen and coordinating
all these schedules and logs and certificates
and and all this kind of stuff You all do a fabulous
job uh... with this and and i know you know other
special events we've always said well if you
want to know how to run a special event these
are the people you want to call and you've you've
been helpful for for some of the view a events
and and that kind of thing uh... so i just want
to personally thank you for for all that you're
doing but i do have one last question it is is
going to be Is there going to be an amplifier
under the Christmas tree for this year? We not
only have an alpha, we have an alpha as a backup.
It's sitting right in the garage. We have an
alpha that we had repaired and it's as a backup
to our regular 1500 watt amplifier. I remember
when the first one went down. That was not a
good day. No, no, it was not a good day. No,
it went down three times. That's what happens
when you buy used equipment. So, so we went out
for a brand spanking new. Oh, the stock just
crashed on all the used equipment markets. But
in seriousness, we, we decided the one thing
that we really felt we couldn't do without was
an amplifier. So when, when it did go down, we
found a place to plot a ham down there. did an
incredible job repairing it and we went and bought
a brand new 1500 watt amplifier. Not solid state,
we went with tube. We decided to stick with tubes
and so we do have a backup amp. We do have a
backup amp. You out on the 160 meter contest
that Lou was doing one year. So we have a backup
to the 1500 watt antenna. Yeah, there you go.
Well, you know, you stick with the tubes. It
does get cold in New York in the winter. So yes,
we know when the. This is the warmest room in
the house. Yeah, there you go. All right Well,
we look forward to hearing everybody on the 12
days of Christmas special event and the the youth
on the air month and the the Christmas birthday
special event and all these things going on this
month so thanks for taking the time out to talk
with us and Look forward to hearing you on the
air here in just a few days for the 12 days of
Christmas okay so if you're talking to w2p mention
you heard me on ham talk live there you go yes
and you'll get the same certificate that everybody
All right. Well that is a wrap for this edition
of ham talk live. I'd like to thank my guests
Sally K to RYD and Lou NO to see and everybody
out there in cyberspace for listening and invite
you back next time For a list of our upcoming
guests go to ham talk live .com So for now, this
is Neil rap WB 9 VPG saying seven three seven
five and may the good DX be yours So 73's, to
you and your family, I'll be seeing you further
down the log. So 73's, to you and your family,
I'll be seeing you further down the log.