WEBVTT 00:00:01.009 --> 00:00:08.070 It's Ham Radio, with Neograp, here we go, welcome 00:00:08.070 --> 00:00:12.970 to Amtopi, call in, let's talk, Neil's your go 00:00:12.970 --> 00:00:34.109 - Oh my goodness, the music still works. Hey 00:00:34.109 --> 00:00:37.590 everybody, it's HamTalk Live episode number 324. 00:00:38.530 --> 00:00:41.369 The Voice of America Museum of Renovations and 00:00:41.369 --> 00:00:45.130 Hamvention Tours recorded on April 8th, 2025. 00:00:45.969 --> 00:00:49.429 I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG. Thanks for 00:00:49.429 --> 00:00:53.710 tuning into this special episode of HamTalk Live. 00:00:53.969 --> 00:00:57.890 Tonight we're joined by Lee Hite, K8CLI from 00:00:57.890 --> 00:01:00.869 the Westchester Amateur Radio Association and 00:01:01.179 --> 00:01:04.200 the National Voice of America Museum of Broadcasting 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:08.599 in Westchester, Ohio. Well, it's been a while. 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:11.819 Oh my gosh. It's been a few months short of two 00:01:11.819 --> 00:01:14.680 years since the last episode of Am Talk Live. 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:18.379 And I know many of you, especially lately have 00:01:18.379 --> 00:01:21.140 commented that you missed the show as do I, but 00:01:21.140 --> 00:01:24.219 unfortunately there's just too many things going 00:01:24.219 --> 00:01:28.230 on in life. And, uh, just wasn't time to do the 00:01:28.230 --> 00:01:30.969 show show anymore, but I did say I would do a 00:01:30.969 --> 00:01:33.170 few episodes now and then when time permitted 00:01:33.170 --> 00:01:39.090 and I had some time. So here we are. And, um, 00:01:39.409 --> 00:01:43.269 couple of things that, uh, are, are of some strong 00:01:43.269 --> 00:01:47.549 interest to, uh, to the show here. Um, there's 00:01:47.549 --> 00:01:50.189 been a lot of news circulating, uh, around the 00:01:50.189 --> 00:01:52.569 status of voice of America and the renovations 00:01:52.569 --> 00:01:55.810 to the museum and. museum was shut down for a 00:01:55.810 --> 00:02:00.329 while and so there's a lot of concern out there 00:02:00.329 --> 00:02:03.969 about things shutting down and we're going to 00:02:03.969 --> 00:02:06.989 put all that to rest. So I thought it was a good 00:02:06.989 --> 00:02:10.590 time to come back and talk about it. And as I 00:02:10.590 --> 00:02:13.050 was testing the setup just about an hour ago, 00:02:13.090 --> 00:02:15.710 I noticed that the live stream feature is missing. 00:02:16.969 --> 00:02:19.129 I did some research and turns out that while 00:02:19.129 --> 00:02:21.330 the show was on hiatus, Spreaker dropped the 00:02:21.330 --> 00:02:23.870 live feature. which was the whole point of the 00:02:23.870 --> 00:02:26.449 show back in the day. So my apologies if you 00:02:26.449 --> 00:02:29.310 tuned in live and didn't find the show. I'll 00:02:29.310 --> 00:02:31.590 try to find a better solution for Ham, Venge 00:02:31.590 --> 00:02:34.629 and Eve. Maybe we'll do a do YouTube. Maybe I 00:02:34.629 --> 00:02:37.770 can stream it over to YouTube as I record it 00:02:37.770 --> 00:02:42.110 and, uh, and do it that way. But, um, we'll, 00:02:42.110 --> 00:02:45.699 we'll see how that goes. But anyway, let's talk 00:02:45.699 --> 00:02:49.180 with Lee here. Lee Heitkate CLI is the lead docent 00:02:49.180 --> 00:02:51.300 and a board member of the National Voice of America 00:02:51.300 --> 00:02:54.680 Museum of Broadcasting in Westchester, Ohio. 00:02:54.780 --> 00:02:57.280 He's a retired electronics engineer with a passion 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:01.219 for investigating technical issues, occasionally 00:03:01.219 --> 00:03:04.020 surrounded with mystery and often bridging several 00:03:04.020 --> 00:03:07.400 fields of technology. Lee, you always have interesting 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:10.819 stories to tell. When I think of a historian, 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:14.360 I think of you. And anytime somebody goes to 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:16.680 the museum, I'm like, you got to find Lee. So 00:03:16.680 --> 00:03:18.860 Lee, thank you for coming back on the show tonight. 00:03:20.419 --> 00:03:22.960 Yeah. Good evening, Neil. And thank you for the 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:25.340 invitation and a hello to you and everyone out 00:03:25.340 --> 00:03:28.680 there listening. Uh, it's good to be back and 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:31.219 yes, a lot going on at the museum. We were shut 00:03:31.219 --> 00:03:35.500 down for renovations, uh, for a good seven months. 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:38.400 When we first, we got a really nice grant from 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:43.740 the state of Ohio and we did special efforts 00:03:43.740 --> 00:03:48.680 to maximize the value of that grant and we anticipated 00:03:48.680 --> 00:03:51.139 being shut down for maybe two to three months. 00:03:51.460 --> 00:03:56.919 Well, Shame on us. It was a lot bigger project. 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:00.500 I worked every day, Christmas day, New Year's 00:04:00.500 --> 00:04:04.780 Eve day, as did others. But it lasted seven months 00:04:04.780 --> 00:04:07.759 just to get everything done. So we did a lot. 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:12.419 We needed a lot of infrastructure. We had no 00:04:12.419 --> 00:04:15.560 central air conditioning, no central heat. We 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:19.519 were surviving off of a residential furnace. 00:04:19.870 --> 00:04:22.949 for most of the museum, and it didn't do the 00:04:22.949 --> 00:04:28.230 job. So we put in zone heating. I think we've 00:04:28.230 --> 00:04:32.850 got 20 or 21 individual air conditioners and 00:04:32.850 --> 00:04:37.170 heat pumps for heat and AC, and they work marvelously. 00:04:37.269 --> 00:04:39.870 They're just wonderful, very, very incredibly 00:04:39.870 --> 00:04:43.750 efficient. The new ones are just amazing, efficient. 00:04:45.069 --> 00:04:48.170 And so we're thrilled to get that. That was the 00:04:48.189 --> 00:04:52.490 That was the big part of the renovation. Yeah, 00:04:52.490 --> 00:04:55.970 that was a biggie. And then we could put in the 00:04:55.970 --> 00:05:01.709 almost all new carpet in the museum. That was 00:05:01.709 --> 00:05:06.470 a big project. All the rooms got repainted. And 00:05:06.470 --> 00:05:08.910 another big thing, really, I noticed it again 00:05:08.910 --> 00:05:12.009 today when I was there, that they put in a drop 00:05:12.009 --> 00:05:15.230 ceiling. We never had drop ceilings. And it was 00:05:15.230 --> 00:05:18.250 the old original transmitting facility. So the 00:05:18.250 --> 00:05:21.990 heat went way, way up. And boy, with the new 00:05:21.990 --> 00:05:26.569 drop ceilings, I told Mark, I said, wow, it's 00:05:26.569 --> 00:05:29.850 really nice in here. And he says, yeah, you got 00:05:29.850 --> 00:05:34.129 drop ceilings, you've got good heat. So we're 00:05:34.129 --> 00:05:38.829 thrilled with all the infrastructure. New lighting, 00:05:39.050 --> 00:05:42.370 a lot of areas, that kind of thing. So yeah, 00:05:42.689 --> 00:05:46.189 we're thrilled. well, we'll talk some more about 00:05:46.189 --> 00:05:50.870 the upgrades here in in just a bit, but As we 00:05:50.870 --> 00:05:53.870 said the museum will shut down, you know for 00:05:53.870 --> 00:05:58.610 for seven months and then then the election hit 00:05:58.610 --> 00:06:02.810 and so the the US government announced a slew 00:06:02.810 --> 00:06:06.410 of cuts and one of the things that that Initially 00:06:06.410 --> 00:06:10.889 was cut and now is back. I guess included the 00:06:11.339 --> 00:06:16.500 current voice of America service. So, uh, I know, 00:06:16.500 --> 00:06:19.459 uh, executive director Jack Dominic dropped me 00:06:19.459 --> 00:06:22.000 an email and said, you know, spread the word 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:25.819 here. Um, there's, there's no danger of closing. 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:29.720 So, so tell us a little bit about what you know 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:33.240 on that and, and clear up anything about, um, 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:36.899 the status of the museum. No, I'd be happy to 00:06:36.899 --> 00:06:41.300 deal the we get a lot of emails and a lot of 00:06:41.300 --> 00:06:45.540 phone calls now about the the current administration 00:06:45.540 --> 00:06:49.379 shutting down the agency and It's important to 00:06:49.379 --> 00:06:54.500 say that the museum is a standalone 501 c3 Nonprofit 00:06:54.500 --> 00:06:57.540 we have never been connected to voa headquarters. 00:06:57.740 --> 00:07:02.120 We have never received any federal funding from 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:06.240 VOA or any other federal agency. So we are completely 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:11.100 independent and we are 100 % not affected by 00:07:11.100 --> 00:07:14.899 the actions going on in Washington DC right now. 00:07:15.379 --> 00:07:19.519 We have always told the VOA story and we will 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:24.199 continue to tell the VOA story. And I'm reminded 00:07:25.100 --> 00:07:28.399 When we first went on the air February 1st 1942 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:32.120 right after Pearl Harbor the opening broadcast 00:07:32.120 --> 00:07:36.240 to introduce the voice of America to the world 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:40.980 was The news may be good. The news may be bad 00:07:40.980 --> 00:07:44.300 We will tell you the truth and while that's a 00:07:44.300 --> 00:07:47.139 catchy phrase you have to think about a little 00:07:47.139 --> 00:07:51.480 bit but there's a lot of wisdom in that phrase 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:56.750 because When VOA went on the air, we were losing 00:07:56.750 --> 00:08:00.230 World War II big time. In fact, for the first 00:08:00.230 --> 00:08:04.009 two years, almost all the broadcasts were bad 00:08:04.009 --> 00:08:06.949 information about the United States. Battles 00:08:06.949 --> 00:08:09.310 we lost, how many soldiers were killed, tanks 00:08:09.310 --> 00:08:13.230 we lost, airplanes we lost. And it wasn't until 00:08:13.230 --> 00:08:16.529 two years after going on the air that we started 00:08:16.529 --> 00:08:19.230 turning around the war and we actually had some 00:08:19.230 --> 00:08:23.160 good news to report. So I know I get a lot of 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:28.240 questions as a docent about, well, why do you 00:08:28.240 --> 00:08:33.000 say, well, it's not us, the museum. We try to 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:36.299 understand what headquarters does and tell that 00:08:36.299 --> 00:08:39.120 story. But why do they tell bad news? It's the 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:43.059 truth. When it all comes down to it, the VOA 00:08:43.059 --> 00:08:47.240 mission is to tell unbiased truth. So you're 00:08:47.240 --> 00:08:49.669 going to tell both sides of the story. And I 00:08:49.669 --> 00:08:52.509 think that bothers some people when they hear 00:08:52.509 --> 00:08:55.269 uncomplimentary things about the United States, 00:08:55.450 --> 00:09:03.210 but that's what they do. Right now, when they 00:09:03.210 --> 00:09:08.190 went off the air, they were translating over 00:09:08.190 --> 00:09:13.929 60 languages and dialects. A huge audience out 00:09:13.929 --> 00:09:19.539 there. The weekly listening audience for VOA 00:09:19.539 --> 00:09:23.840 was over 220 billion people a week. And when 00:09:23.840 --> 00:09:26.559 you back up to the parent organization, which 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:29.960 is USAGM, the United States Agency for Global 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:34.480 Media, they have over 440 million people on a 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:36.960 weekly basis. That includes Radio Free Asia, 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:41.159 Radio Free Europe, Radio Marti, and all of that. 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:45.720 So it's a huge audience. I have never met anyone 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:50.470 that really understands the breadth of the agency 00:09:50.470 --> 00:09:56.389 and the need. I tell you, Neil, just be in the 00:09:56.389 --> 00:09:59.970 museum for a weekend. We get lots of people coming 00:09:59.970 --> 00:10:03.230 in that have immigrated, but they may have been 00:10:03.230 --> 00:10:07.330 living here for up to 40 years, 30, 20, 10 years. 00:10:07.629 --> 00:10:09.830 They've been living here, and they finally heard 00:10:09.830 --> 00:10:11.809 about the museum. They wanted to come out and 00:10:11.809 --> 00:10:17.960 see it. And they'll tell their story. And we 00:10:17.960 --> 00:10:20.539 in this country do not understand what it's like 00:10:20.539 --> 00:10:24.940 to live in a repressive government at all. Because 00:10:24.940 --> 00:10:27.940 they start telling their story and it's just 00:10:27.940 --> 00:10:30.940 heartbreaking. So when they heard about freedom 00:10:30.940 --> 00:10:35.960 through Voice of America, they immigrated. I've 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:42.379 had people in from Vietnam, from China, Ukraine. 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:46.220 that almost break down and cry when they realized 00:10:46.220 --> 00:10:49.940 that the message they heard came out of this 00:10:49.940 --> 00:10:52.620 station. I mean, it was authored in Morriston, 00:10:52.700 --> 00:10:55.279 D .C., but it was broadcast out of Westchester 00:10:55.279 --> 00:11:03.179 or Mason at the time. So the importance of telling 00:11:03.179 --> 00:11:07.039 the truth remains. That'll never change. So what 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:09.200 we're doing in the museum, we tell the story. 00:11:09.399 --> 00:11:13.580 And right from day one, it really hasn't changed. 00:11:14.139 --> 00:11:18.659 I know, um, you know, I've had a chance to see 00:11:18.659 --> 00:11:21.440 a couple of those, those stories of, you know, 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:24.480 the blanket radios, the little radio hide, hide 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:28.240 under the blanket and, uh, uh, how, you know, 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:32.779 people just relied on, on that, um, service to, 00:11:32.779 --> 00:11:37.620 to learn English, to, uh, learn the truth. Um, 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:39.960 All those kinds of things. And like you said, 00:11:40.100 --> 00:11:47.019 they're very emotional. They're very elated to 00:11:47.019 --> 00:11:52.639 see everything that was delivering the news to 00:11:52.639 --> 00:12:03.519 them at the time. Yeah, they put on the task 00:12:03.519 --> 00:12:07.980 of effectively communicating. They didn't understand 00:12:07.980 --> 00:12:09.940 right at the get -go when they went on the air 00:12:09.940 --> 00:12:13.259 in 1942. It took a while to realize that the 00:12:13.259 --> 00:12:16.980 American language does not translate into all 00:12:16.980 --> 00:12:20.779 these different languages. Idioms don't translate, 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:26.139 and we talk fast, and compound sentences, etc. 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:31.299 So very early, they put on the effort to come 00:12:31.299 --> 00:12:34.539 up with a special dictionary. It was called Special 00:12:34.539 --> 00:12:38.549 English. but they took the entire American dictionary 00:12:38.549 --> 00:12:44.129 and reduced it down to 1 ,500 words that 100 00:12:44.129 --> 00:12:47.669 % translate into all these different languages. 00:12:48.110 --> 00:12:50.769 I mean, we don't realize Russia does not have 00:12:50.769 --> 00:12:53.129 the word the in their language. They don't have 00:12:53.129 --> 00:12:55.610 the word science. Their understanding of science 00:12:55.610 --> 00:12:57.389 is very different than ours. You're either a 00:12:57.389 --> 00:13:01.470 cavist, or a physicist or a mathematician, you're 00:13:01.470 --> 00:13:06.330 not an engineer. You're not broad -based. So 00:13:06.330 --> 00:13:12.049 it's important to be global. And I think that's 00:13:12.049 --> 00:13:15.250 one thing the museum teaches you, is the global 00:13:15.250 --> 00:13:18.509 planet that we live on. We are, what, 4 % of 00:13:18.509 --> 00:13:20.090 the world population? I don't know, something 00:13:20.090 --> 00:13:23.710 like that. And there's a lot going on all over 00:13:23.710 --> 00:13:27.029 the world that we just don't see. We don't see, 00:13:27.129 --> 00:13:32.120 yeah. But it's, it's exciting. Well, let's, let's 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:35.399 transition over to, to the renovations. Um, I 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:39.899 know, um, my favorite one was the air conditioning 00:13:39.899 --> 00:13:43.399 because I've been in that place in the middle 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:48.070 of summer and it, it, it was rather toasty. Um, 00:13:48.190 --> 00:13:51.429 and when the shack was renovated, uh, the, the 00:13:51.429 --> 00:13:54.049 ham shack, uh, you know, we're able to, to add 00:13:54.049 --> 00:13:56.309 that air conditioning and boy, that was nice, 00:13:56.350 --> 00:14:01.090 but now, uh, it's the whole place and everything's 00:14:01.090 --> 00:14:04.250 been repaved and all this stuff. So, so tell 00:14:04.250 --> 00:14:06.389 us about some more of these, these upgrades. 00:14:06.649 --> 00:14:08.889 I know we've got the infrastructure and, and 00:14:08.889 --> 00:14:13.500 I, and, and the, uh, Generator too. I don't know 00:14:13.500 --> 00:14:16.639 if we talked about the generator, but So talk 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:19.220 about all the all these new upgrades to the museum. 00:14:19.220 --> 00:14:23.480 Oh sure. Yeah We have we do have a whole building 00:14:23.480 --> 00:14:27.379 generator that comes on every Wednesday For a 00:14:27.379 --> 00:14:30.240 test and we'll run the museum for a while So 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:32.940 it's run on a regular basis. It kicks in and 00:14:32.940 --> 00:14:36.279 you don't even know it. I mean, the local power 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:38.440 company can drop out and this thing kicks in 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:41.440 so fast that you get a little tiny blink in the 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:43.559 lights and that's all you ever see. And we're 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:48.220 up and going. So that's good. In addition to 00:14:48.220 --> 00:14:51.120 all of the HVAC, air conditioning and heating, 00:14:51.750 --> 00:14:55.649 which was really important and a huge part of 00:14:55.649 --> 00:15:00.809 the grant was spent on that, was wiring. Mark 00:15:00.809 --> 00:15:05.710 and his contract group pulled out all the old 00:15:05.710 --> 00:15:08.250 wiring and we have all brand new wiring in the 00:15:08.250 --> 00:15:11.210 conduit. And you should see the wiring that got 00:15:11.210 --> 00:15:15.429 pulled out. It was cloth covered and there were 00:15:15.429 --> 00:15:18.919 burnt marks in it and you're going like... How 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:20.899 did this survive? Well, it survived because it 00:15:20.899 --> 00:15:23.440 was in a metal conduit. Otherwise, it would have 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:27.700 been a big fire. But there was also not a ground 00:15:27.700 --> 00:15:31.519 wire run in a lot of it. It was two -wire wiring. 00:15:32.159 --> 00:15:37.559 So we are now fully compliant with all the electrical 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:42.039 codes. We never had a fire alarm system. So a 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:45.779 brand new alarm was put in every single room 00:15:45.779 --> 00:15:50.820 and all the lights and sensors are installed. 00:15:51.940 --> 00:15:54.460 And so we're thrilled about that. That was a 00:15:54.460 --> 00:15:57.580 big, the other thing that is a big improvement 00:15:57.580 --> 00:16:01.899 is we were not 100 % ADA handicap compliant. 00:16:02.700 --> 00:16:06.220 We had a ramp on the control room, but that's 00:16:06.220 --> 00:16:10.179 all. So we put in a brand new ADA ramp from the 00:16:10.179 --> 00:16:14.080 control, from the platform, the main floor in 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:18.460 the museum. down into the Crosley room in the 00:16:18.460 --> 00:16:21.500 college transmitter, that whole area. So you 00:16:21.500 --> 00:16:24.500 can come in at the entrance now, which is level 00:16:24.500 --> 00:16:27.679 from the parking lot, come right in and see the 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:32.399 entire museum in a wheelchair. And it's all very, 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:35.460 very accessible. So we're very happy to get that. 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:40.200 The parking lot was repaved. Huge job on that. 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:42.360 We paved all the way back through the antenna 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:47.799 switch. back to the township property line and 00:16:47.799 --> 00:16:51.559 included several handicapped parking spots, which 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:55.100 we sort of had, but it wasn't very obvious. But 00:16:55.100 --> 00:16:58.720 they're put in, they're very nice though. And 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:01.799 it's just nice to drive in and not be going through 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:06.380 potholes. It sounds simple, but it's very nice. 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:09.000 You still have to watch out for the killer geese 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:12.430 though. Then you do we do we have those killer 00:17:12.430 --> 00:17:17.259 keys. Yep. Yeah, they There could be several 00:17:17.259 --> 00:17:18.720 hundred of them out there and all of a sudden 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:21.220 they decide to cross the driveway and they don't 00:17:21.220 --> 00:17:23.599 care about you. They're just gonna waddle on 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:27.980 through at their own speed. So yeah, in the new 00:17:27.980 --> 00:17:32.640 exhibits, we are the Voice of America Museum 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:36.099 of Broadcasting. So obviously our charter is 00:17:36.099 --> 00:17:39.339 to tell the VOA story. But we're also a museum 00:17:39.339 --> 00:17:43.339 of broadcasting. So what we have enhanced considerably 00:17:43.579 --> 00:17:47.599 is the subject of broadcasting, particularly 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:52.359 coming through the 20s and 30s and 40s and up 00:17:52.359 --> 00:17:55.880 through today. And one of the things that started 00:17:55.880 --> 00:18:00.200 with local radio station WLW early was sound 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:03.039 effects. When your radio... I mean, you have 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:06.660 to they call theater of the mind. You have to 00:18:06.660 --> 00:18:09.619 use your mind to imagine what's going on. So 00:18:09.619 --> 00:18:12.160 they implemented sound effects. And so we built 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:16.819 over the course of being shut down a huge what's 00:18:16.819 --> 00:18:19.460 called Foley lab. The gentleman by the name of 00:18:19.460 --> 00:18:24.220 Foley coined the word that sound effects as you 00:18:24.220 --> 00:18:28.160 add sound effects on. It's a science. It really 00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:30.900 it's an art of science. It's learned. But you 00:18:30.900 --> 00:18:34.730 learn by doing So people have a blast going in 00:18:34.730 --> 00:18:38.450 there. It's all hands on. They can do it all. 00:18:39.650 --> 00:18:44.170 And it's one of the things that people don't 00:18:44.170 --> 00:18:46.710 want to leave. They're in there playing and they 00:18:46.710 --> 00:18:48.509 want to keep playing with all the sound effects. 00:18:48.890 --> 00:18:50.849 So that works out very well. You can't hear it, 00:18:50.849 --> 00:18:53.369 but I'm sitting here playing with my sound effects 00:18:53.369 --> 00:18:58.029 while we're talking about this. I have the sound 00:18:58.029 --> 00:19:00.609 effects here. We can even play the Bao Feng song. 00:19:01.869 --> 00:19:11.230 Yeah, okay. So we got our sound effects in. Good, 00:19:11.609 --> 00:19:16.130 good. And the exciting thing, Neil, I haven't 00:19:16.130 --> 00:19:20.170 talked about is we, Joe Gruber, our chief technology 00:19:20.170 --> 00:19:24.089 officer, designed a stem lab, a radio stem lab, 00:19:24.329 --> 00:19:28.759 several years ago. And it was popular, it worked, 00:19:29.779 --> 00:19:32.039 and people enjoyed it. It was on the second level 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:35.200 of the museum, a lot of steps to get there. And 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:37.519 that just didn't work for the general population 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:42.359 that comes in the museum. So we renovated a room 00:19:42.359 --> 00:19:46.619 and moved the STEM lab downstairs and greatly 00:19:46.619 --> 00:19:50.400 enhanced it. Joe has done an awesome job enhancing 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:56.470 the STEM lab. So STEM groups from around the 00:19:56.470 --> 00:19:59.990 area are more than welcome to come in and learn 00:19:59.990 --> 00:20:03.470 how radio works. I mean, one of the messages 00:20:03.470 --> 00:20:06.910 is you can't go five minutes every day without 00:20:06.910 --> 00:20:10.769 radio. It's either Wi -Fi, cellular, Bluetooth, 00:20:12.569 --> 00:20:15.890 you know, you can name them all, but radio is 00:20:15.890 --> 00:20:18.529 probably not well understood by most people in 00:20:18.529 --> 00:20:22.259 terms of its impact it's having on society. So 00:20:22.259 --> 00:20:26.059 we've taken on the task and we will explain that. 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:30.339 That's today. What's coming down the road is 00:20:30.339 --> 00:20:34.019 we're in major planning right now for the new 00:20:34.019 --> 00:20:39.200 STEM lab. And what we're going to do is we have 00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:46.059 used AI to generate pictures of all the luminaries 00:20:46.059 --> 00:20:54.500 that developed radio, Hertz. Faraday, Voltaic, 00:20:54.579 --> 00:20:59.079 and all that. And at each station we have experiments 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:04.440 that you can operate yourself to see what Hertz 00:21:04.440 --> 00:21:09.539 did to find out that you could push an electromagnetic 00:21:09.539 --> 00:21:14.960 wave through the air and actually do it. We have 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:17.799 a spark transmitter, a very active functional 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:20.700 spark transmitter. which is how Hertz did it 00:21:20.700 --> 00:21:24.880 originally. And so we have luminary pictures 00:21:24.880 --> 00:21:27.680 on the wall. They look like they were photographed 00:21:27.680 --> 00:21:29.980 yesterday. It doesn't look like these old -fashioned 00:21:29.980 --> 00:21:33.799 black and white, ugly -looking things of these 00:21:33.799 --> 00:21:37.660 luminaries, these inventors and people that discovered 00:21:37.660 --> 00:21:42.839 it. What we're doing is we've received a very 00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:46.240 nice grant to enhance the STEM lab, and we're 00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:51.130 going to animate these luminaries so that you 00:21:51.130 --> 00:21:54.869 could sit down and have a conversation with Mr. 00:21:55.130 --> 00:22:01.549 Faraday or Hertz or Benjamin Franklin or any 00:22:01.549 --> 00:22:06.190 of the people that contributed to understanding 00:22:06.190 --> 00:22:11.369 magnetism and electricity, which eventually developed 00:22:11.369 --> 00:22:15.220 into the electromagnetic wave. So that's in works. 00:22:15.339 --> 00:22:18.799 It's it's expensive to do. It's very technical 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:22.640 But we will have probably the most advanced step 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:25.619 lab radio stem lab not stem lab But radio stem 00:22:25.619 --> 00:22:28.720 lab in the whole probably the world because no 00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:32.859 one else is doing what we're doing and and and 00:22:32.859 --> 00:22:36.180 we think it's very important because a Podcast 00:22:36.180 --> 00:22:38.099 that's radio. That's what we're doing tonight. 00:22:38.099 --> 00:22:41.240 It's radio. I mean without radio we we wouldn't 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:45.009 be anywhere. So That's new, working on that. 00:22:47.069 --> 00:22:50.289 As I mentioned, we're putting in a very nice 00:22:50.289 --> 00:22:53.769 radio station. It won't be on the air, but it 00:22:53.769 --> 00:22:56.769 will look like it's live on the air. So people 00:22:56.769 --> 00:23:00.670 understand what was the world like before digital? 00:23:01.049 --> 00:23:05.250 We don't have no flat screens. It's all analog, 00:23:05.309 --> 00:23:08.789 analog control board, reel -to -reel tape. We've 00:23:08.789 --> 00:23:11.509 got a wire recorder because wire was used all 00:23:11.509 --> 00:23:14.730 the way up into the 40s. So we've got that. We've 00:23:14.730 --> 00:23:17.369 got current machines. We've got the big 22 -inch 00:23:17.369 --> 00:23:20.390 turntables. We've got transmitters. We've got 00:23:20.390 --> 00:23:26.809 a big audio rack. All you had to do is put it 00:23:26.809 --> 00:23:28.710 on the air and it would be a very functional 00:23:28.710 --> 00:23:35.390 radio station. And that's another way to discuss 00:23:35.390 --> 00:23:37.869 broadcasting and how it all came about because 00:23:37.869 --> 00:23:40.529 it's been going on for a very long time. And 00:23:40.529 --> 00:23:44.769 then we did enhance the Crosley display. We probably 00:23:44.769 --> 00:23:47.450 have the largest collection of Crosley items 00:23:47.450 --> 00:23:50.569 in the country. And we've added things. We're 00:23:50.569 --> 00:23:52.670 going to be adding more things. We've added appliances. 00:23:53.049 --> 00:23:55.630 He was in the appliance business. And so we've 00:23:55.630 --> 00:23:59.730 added a kitchen counter and cabinets to the museum. 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:03.180 Lots of fun stuff. I know people come in now 00:24:03.180 --> 00:24:07.000 and they they don't leave Yeah, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. 00:24:07.180 --> 00:24:10.680 And yeah, the appliances my favorite is the refrigerator 00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:14.920 with the radio built in. Yep. Yep Gotta have 00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:18.400 the radio well Lee we're gonna take a minute 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:23.400 here to take a break and it's been such a long 00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:28.019 time since we've We've done the show and when 00:24:28.019 --> 00:24:31.230 we're not using sponsors because you know, it's 00:24:31.230 --> 00:24:36.849 just every once in a while. But we do have a 00:24:36.849 --> 00:24:41.430 minute to take to go back and look at an old 00:24:41.430 --> 00:24:45.970 N9GSU ham radio joke of the week. So we will 00:24:45.970 --> 00:24:48.829 do that and then we'll come back. We'll talk 00:24:48.829 --> 00:24:51.049 more about some of the broadcasting features 00:24:51.049 --> 00:24:55.259 coming to the museum. and what's coming up for 00:24:55.259 --> 00:24:59.460 Hamvention this year at the museum. But right 00:24:59.460 --> 00:25:03.720 now we're going to go to the Ham Radio Joke of 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:06.759 the Week. Now it's time for the HamTalk Live 00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:09.700 Ham Radio Joke of the Week, the part of the show 00:25:09.700 --> 00:25:13.000 where Rick tells us a ham radio joke. The HamTalk 00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:15.519 Live Ham Radio Joke of the Week is brought to 00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:20.480 you by QRM Labs. Now here's Rick Garrett in 9GSU 00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:29.259 with today's HamTalk Live Joke of the Week. I 00:25:29.259 --> 00:25:32.200 was so excited when I heard my wife say she was 00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:34.769 going to Dayton to look for an antenna. I was 00:25:34.769 --> 00:25:37.190 very disappointed when I realized what she really 00:25:37.190 --> 00:25:39.990 said. She was going to look after Aunt Anna. 00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:29.059 And welcome back to ham talk live and While we're 00:26:29.059 --> 00:26:32.079 talking about the in nine GSU joke of the week 00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:36.759 our friends over at the ham radio guy Marvin 00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:41.380 Turner W0MET Rick's over there telling the ham 00:26:41.380 --> 00:26:44.059 radio joke of the week now. So make sure you 00:26:44.059 --> 00:26:48.930 check that out. I was on his podcast last night 00:26:48.930 --> 00:26:52.349 and So that'll be coming out here in the next 00:26:52.349 --> 00:26:57.190 day or so But but Rick's over there telling jokes 00:26:57.190 --> 00:27:01.170 on on the ham radio guy podcast. So if you miss 00:27:01.170 --> 00:27:04.670 the jokes why You can check those out over there. 00:27:04.670 --> 00:27:09.180 We're here with Lee height k8 CLI uh, from the 00:27:09.180 --> 00:27:12.619 voice of America museum of broadcasting in Westchester, 00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:15.859 Ohio. And, and you know, the official name is 00:27:15.859 --> 00:27:19.000 the national voice of America museum of broadcasting. 00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:22.660 And, and, uh, as you said, uh, that's really 00:27:22.660 --> 00:27:25.599 being emphasized. So, so tell us a little more 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:29.339 about this new, uh, new studio coming and, and, 00:27:29.339 --> 00:27:31.480 and, and can I, can I run ham talk live from 00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:35.940 it? I remember how to use real to real. Uh, well, 00:27:36.009 --> 00:27:38.950 Probably not, but we thought about putting in 00:27:38.950 --> 00:27:42.509 a podcast station. We did consider putting in 00:27:42.509 --> 00:27:46.190 a live operational podcast station. One thing 00:27:46.190 --> 00:27:49.650 we should mention, Neil, with this being HamTalk 00:27:49.650 --> 00:27:53.309 Live, is our amateur radio club, the Westchester 00:27:53.309 --> 00:27:56.730 Amateur Radio Association. It's been a while 00:27:56.730 --> 00:28:01.630 since you've had a podcast, and the club... totally 00:28:01.630 --> 00:28:04.450 modernized the ham station. It is absolutely 00:28:04.450 --> 00:28:09.329 awesome. Huge flat screens, new transmitters. 00:28:10.529 --> 00:28:15.109 We got new antennas. We had a donation of just 00:28:15.109 --> 00:28:20.529 an awesome crankover antenna. All the antennas 00:28:20.529 --> 00:28:25.819 have been renovated. The club took on the task 00:28:25.819 --> 00:28:28.819 of being a volunteer examiner, and so they do 00:28:28.819 --> 00:28:31.579 VE exams once a month, and it turned out to be 00:28:31.579 --> 00:28:35.839 very popular. We get a large turnout. I'm one 00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:40.519 of the members, and we will get a lot of people 00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:43.220 coming in on a Saturday morning for testing. 00:28:44.500 --> 00:28:47.539 Most of the time, almost everyone passes, once 00:28:47.539 --> 00:28:54.920 in a while, they don't. continue they'll come 00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:59.680 back and test for a upgrade license and also 00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:03.720 as a reminder the ham club the ham shack has 00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:07.279 Open shack night on Wednesday nights. So anyone 00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:10.359 from the public any amateur radio operator Welcome 00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:13.279 to come in operate the station. Yep operate any 00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:16.000 of the transmitters Whatever band happens to 00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:19.119 be open and active at the time and we do get 00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:22.089 we do get The public coming a lot of club members 00:29:22.089 --> 00:29:25.670 come in on on wednesday night open shack night 00:29:25.670 --> 00:29:30.750 is wednesday night, uh 7 pm to 9 pm And so you're 00:29:30.750 --> 00:29:33.410 both welcome. If you're in the area vacationing, 00:29:33.410 --> 00:29:36.490 uh, try to make it on wednesday night Good stop 00:29:36.490 --> 00:29:40.329 in see everybody. They'd be thrilled to see you 00:29:40.329 --> 00:29:44.220 Yeah, it's a it's a great uh It was great to 00:29:44.220 --> 00:29:47.259 start with and now it's even better. And, uh, 00:29:47.259 --> 00:29:49.220 I'm going to talk here in a little bit about, 00:29:49.220 --> 00:29:52.240 uh, an opportunity for some young people to come 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:54.420 operate the shack. So we'll, we'll save that 00:29:54.420 --> 00:29:57.980 for the end here, but, uh, uh, lots of opportunities. 00:29:58.579 --> 00:30:02.740 And speaking of one great opportunity to come 00:30:02.740 --> 00:30:05.180 operate the shack and check everything out is 00:30:05.180 --> 00:30:09.380 during Dayton Hamvention. So tell us about the 00:30:09.380 --> 00:30:13.259 plans for this year's. Hamvention open house. 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:17.700 Yes, we are very excited. We have a very successful 00:30:17.700 --> 00:30:20.099 open house during Hamvention. We open Thursday 00:30:20.099 --> 00:30:22.259 evening. We start Thursday. We're open Thursday, 00:30:22.259 --> 00:30:25.980 Friday, Saturday and Sunday. We start Thursday 00:30:25.980 --> 00:30:29.819 at noon and noon until I believe nine o 'clock 00:30:29.819 --> 00:30:34.440 and the rest of the week Friday, Saturday, it's 00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:38.299 noon till 9 o 'clock and then Sunday it's noon 00:30:38.299 --> 00:30:41.259 till I think we close at 5 p .m. But we have 00:30:41.259 --> 00:30:45.460 a huge turnout. We've had upwards of 400 hams 00:30:45.460 --> 00:30:48.539 come in that will come down either on their way 00:30:48.539 --> 00:30:52.640 home or just come down for the evening because 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.539 ham ham veg and such down fairly early. And so 00:30:56.539 --> 00:30:59.140 they've got a free evening, and we're just packed. 00:30:59.380 --> 00:31:02.059 We're just packed. So lots of things to see. 00:31:02.099 --> 00:31:05.359 Come on down and see the new ham shack, see the 00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:09.119 new antennas, and see the museum. There's just 00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:12.700 a lot of fun things for hams to do in the museum 00:31:12.700 --> 00:31:15.779 itself. So yeah, we're very excited. We'll be 00:31:15.779 --> 00:31:20.240 open. Yeah, always a great time. And I'm not 00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:23.099 sure if I'm going to make it this time. I'm usually 00:31:23.099 --> 00:31:27.160 there every Saturday. during Hamvention, but 00:31:27.160 --> 00:31:31.819 I have some other obligations this year, but 00:31:31.819 --> 00:31:34.700 I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to schedule 00:31:34.700 --> 00:31:38.839 a different night to come, but I always run into 00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:42.460 a lot of folks at the museum, and it's always 00:31:42.460 --> 00:31:46.490 a great time. and a chance to get in there and 00:31:46.490 --> 00:31:51.069 run some pileups and operate and check everything 00:31:51.069 --> 00:31:53.569 out. And, you know, so if you're traveling and 00:31:53.569 --> 00:31:58.170 you're in the area, it's not that far to make 00:31:58.170 --> 00:32:01.349 the drive down on an evening and or come a day 00:32:01.349 --> 00:32:05.470 early or stay a day later and go check out the 00:32:05.470 --> 00:32:10.150 museum. I want to encourage everybody to do that. 00:32:10.170 --> 00:32:13.009 And of course, the websites, you can find all 00:32:13.009 --> 00:32:19.289 that information voamuseum .org and whiskeycharlie8voiceofamerica, 00:32:19.289 --> 00:32:25.089 wc8voa .org. And I'm sure all that's posted there 00:32:25.089 --> 00:32:30.529 and you could find out more about it. Lee, anything 00:32:30.529 --> 00:32:34.690 else that we need to talk about here before we 00:32:34.690 --> 00:32:37.910 talk about a special event coming up here at 00:32:37.910 --> 00:32:41.569 the museum? Well, I would encourage everyone 00:32:41.569 --> 00:32:44.490 to come see the Renovator Museum. It's a brand 00:32:44.490 --> 00:32:48.650 new museum, a lot more inviting, a lot more accessible, 00:32:48.730 --> 00:32:51.809 and we love suggestions. If you have a suggestion, 00:32:51.910 --> 00:32:54.109 we want to know about it. I'm the curator for 00:32:54.109 --> 00:32:58.109 the museum, and I get a lot of comments. Why 00:32:58.109 --> 00:33:00.069 don't you do this or why don't you do that or 00:33:00.069 --> 00:33:02.650 why don't you do it this way? Those are highly 00:33:02.650 --> 00:33:05.609 valuable. I Just can't wait to hear those things 00:33:05.609 --> 00:33:09.109 because it's an outsider's viewpoint. I'm inside 00:33:09.109 --> 00:33:12.490 I'm there every day, you know, I don't see the 00:33:12.490 --> 00:33:15.150 through the same eyes that other people see through 00:33:15.150 --> 00:33:18.490 So when you're in the museum, feel free to make 00:33:18.490 --> 00:33:22.809 a comment. Leave me a note Send me an email. 00:33:23.490 --> 00:33:26.740 I really do want to hear hear your comments and 00:33:26.740 --> 00:33:29.900 suggestions on what you like and what you don't 00:33:29.900 --> 00:33:31.819 like, what you think we could do better, et cetera. 00:33:31.859 --> 00:33:35.940 We're still improving and innovating, if you 00:33:35.940 --> 00:33:40.440 will. And we'll make a major announcement when 00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:44.039 the new STEM lab is ready. We're probably a year 00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:48.900 away on that. That's a major task to do all that. 00:33:48.980 --> 00:33:52.420 But we'll make an announcement when that new 00:33:52.420 --> 00:33:56.589 STEM lab, radio STEM lab, is ready. Other than 00:33:56.589 --> 00:33:59.470 that, it's just a great visit. It's very family 00:33:59.470 --> 00:34:02.450 -friendly. We're getting more and more families 00:34:02.450 --> 00:34:06.029 and the kids are finding things to do. The kids 00:34:06.029 --> 00:34:09.250 love the sound effects lab. They like the hands 00:34:09.250 --> 00:34:14.110 -on part of the Crosley exhibit. The radio thing 00:34:14.110 --> 00:34:18.809 is a lot more people -friendly. There's a lot 00:34:18.809 --> 00:34:24.269 of things to do. Come on in. Normally, other 00:34:24.269 --> 00:34:26.269 than Hamvention, it's open every Saturday and 00:34:26.269 --> 00:34:29.710 Sunday, noon to 4 p .m. So if you're in the area, 00:34:29.789 --> 00:34:35.409 stop in. Okay. Well, I think we've hit about 00:34:35.409 --> 00:34:37.489 everything there, Lee, so thank you so much. 00:34:37.809 --> 00:34:40.809 Yep. Coming on and being with us tonight and 00:34:40.809 --> 00:34:43.230 talk about that. And I've got another announcement 00:34:43.230 --> 00:34:45.590 here. I actually made it last night, but we'll, 00:34:45.590 --> 00:34:48.590 we'll make it here too. Uh, the voice of America 00:34:48.590 --> 00:34:52.510 museum is going to be the host of the brand new 00:34:52.510 --> 00:34:56.750 youth on the air junior camp. Uh, that's coming 00:34:56.750 --> 00:35:02.250 up July 25th through the 27th this year, 2025. 00:35:02.889 --> 00:35:06.449 Um, now you, you. Probably have heard about the 00:35:06.449 --> 00:35:08.789 the region -wide camp that we've had. This will 00:35:08.789 --> 00:35:11.010 be the fifth year It's going to be out in Denver 00:35:11.010 --> 00:35:15.329 in June this year But this is a sub regional 00:35:15.329 --> 00:35:19.849 camp. So this is geared just to the US And this 00:35:19.849 --> 00:35:23.789 one is a three -day long weekend for licensed 00:35:23.789 --> 00:35:29.429 TAMs under the age of 15 so all of our Region 00:35:29.429 --> 00:35:32.909 -wide camps are for the ages of 15 through 25 00:35:33.510 --> 00:35:37.469 But this one is going to be for those hams under 00:35:37.469 --> 00:35:40.650 the age of 15. And we've had a lot of people 00:35:40.650 --> 00:35:43.590 wanting to come to camp, but they're 10 and 11 00:35:43.590 --> 00:35:47.369 and they can do the ham radio bit. It's just 00:35:47.369 --> 00:35:51.590 a different social group. And so we're very excited 00:35:51.590 --> 00:35:57.010 to get this started and we are just piloting 00:35:57.010 --> 00:35:59.269 this and we're trying to find our way through 00:35:59.269 --> 00:36:03.030 this. It's kind of a newer thing that we... uh... 00:36:03.030 --> 00:36:06.650 haven't done even worldwide a whole lot uh... 00:36:06.650 --> 00:36:09.170 so we're we're kinda navigating that but since 00:36:09.170 --> 00:36:11.670 you know you gotta travel and everything we're 00:36:11.670 --> 00:36:13.989 we're gonna ask that a parent accompany the young 00:36:13.989 --> 00:36:17.010 ham the parent does not need to have a ham radio 00:36:17.010 --> 00:36:19.809 license though but the child does need to be 00:36:19.809 --> 00:36:23.929 licensed uh... in order to do some of the activities 00:36:23.929 --> 00:36:26.940 so uh... Uh, we're going to do plenty of operating 00:36:26.940 --> 00:36:29.440 at the club station and, uh, we're going to practice 00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:31.440 some contesting skills. We're going to build 00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:33.780 a kit, do some direction finding out in the front 00:36:33.780 --> 00:36:38.179 yard. Uh, while the museum is open, uh, so we 00:36:38.179 --> 00:36:40.719 don't interfere with the, uh, with the museum 00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:43.860 operation. And then, uh, we will also take a 00:36:43.860 --> 00:36:47.059 tour of the museum and have some social gatherings 00:36:47.059 --> 00:36:50.380 and, uh, the applications are going to be open 00:36:50.380 --> 00:36:53.179 anytime. In fact, it may already be there by 00:36:53.179 --> 00:36:57.110 the time you hear this. at youthontheair .org. 00:36:57.349 --> 00:37:01.510 The cost is just $100 per person. So it's $100 00:37:01.510 --> 00:37:08.190 for the youth, $100 for the adult or adults that 00:37:08.190 --> 00:37:10.429 come along. And then you also have to get to 00:37:10.429 --> 00:37:12.889 and from Cincinnati, but we take care of everything 00:37:12.889 --> 00:37:17.949 from when you step foot in Cincinnati until you 00:37:17.949 --> 00:37:21.610 leave Cincinnati. Food, hotel, the whole bit. 00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:27.019 And thanks greatly to ARDC, Amateur Radio and 00:37:27.019 --> 00:37:31.840 Digital Communications, for funding the junior 00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:37.840 camp. So thanks to them. And I know, Lee, you've 00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:42.360 been there when the bigger kids are there. This 00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:44.380 will be a great chance for the younger kids to 00:37:44.380 --> 00:37:48.760 show up. It will. And if any of you that have 00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:53.500 ever been in the previous Youth on the Air, Neil 00:37:53.500 --> 00:37:57.360 Rapp is just awesome. He puts on the most amazing 00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:03.000 educational experience. I mean, he's a professional 00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:07.519 professor. now in terms of teaching, but when 00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:12.460 it comes to doing amateur radio education, you 00:38:12.460 --> 00:38:16.280 don't want to miss this thing. Neil, no one does 00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:18.820 it better. I don't know how else to say it, but 00:38:18.820 --> 00:38:21.760 no one else does it. You've got to come experience 00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:24.980 it. Now that it's under age 15, it'll be a whole 00:38:24.980 --> 00:38:29.460 brand new experience for people. So yeah, Neil's 00:38:29.460 --> 00:38:32.820 awesome at this. Well, thank you. Thank you so 00:38:32.820 --> 00:38:35.659 much. Yeah, it's just gonna be a little miniature 00:38:35.659 --> 00:38:37.980 camp and they'll kind of feed into the bigger 00:38:37.980 --> 00:38:41.400 camp when you get older and So we're really looking 00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:45.860 forward to to bringing that to the Voice of America 00:38:45.860 --> 00:38:48.699 Museum and kind of getting getting all the bugs 00:38:48.699 --> 00:38:51.380 worked out of it this year and then our plan 00:38:51.380 --> 00:38:53.739 is to kind of make this a camp in a box so we 00:38:53.739 --> 00:38:57.360 can just send a box of stuff to a club and they 00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:02.619 can put on the camp in different locations and 00:39:02.619 --> 00:39:06.480 so to cut down on some of the travel. But this 00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:09.300 is your chance to come to the VOA Museum. It's 00:39:09.300 --> 00:39:11.980 always a special time. You know, we've enjoyed 00:39:11.980 --> 00:39:14.400 being at some of the colleges and some of the 00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:18.440 other places, but boy, we miss being at the museum 00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:21.039 and it's going to come back to the museum here 00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:26.119 in a few years. So we'll be grateful for that 00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:30.239 as well. Well, we don't have sponsors for the 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:33.719 show anymore, but let me let me thank icon America 00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:36.460 and tower electronics for their past sponsorship 00:39:36.460 --> 00:39:39.599 and encourage you to check them out at icon America 00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:44.940 comm and pl -259 comm but We do have a special 00:39:44.940 --> 00:39:48.380 sponsor tonight. At least that's what Andy KK 00:39:48.380 --> 00:39:53.610 for LWR says that our show should have a new 00:39:53.610 --> 00:39:56.710 sponsor. So we have a new sponsor. It's Tree 00:39:56.710 --> 00:39:59.489 Electronics. It's our new sponsor. If you can't 00:39:59.489 --> 00:40:03.570 afford a tower, a tree has you covered. And you 00:40:03.570 --> 00:40:09.150 can visit them online at so -239 .com or at least 00:40:09.150 --> 00:40:11.710 that's what Andy said. So, you know, you can't 00:40:11.710 --> 00:40:14.710 always trust everything that Andy says, but. 00:40:14.780 --> 00:40:18.280 All right. Well, that's a wrap for this edition 00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:20.800 of HamTalk Live. Thanks to my guest, Lee Heitkate, 00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:23.280 CLI and everybody out there in cyberspace for 00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:25.460 listening and invite you back. We're going to 00:40:25.460 --> 00:40:28.579 do another one. Ham, Vincent, Eve. That's May 00:40:28.579 --> 00:40:32.059 15th, Thursday, May 15th at nine p .m. Eastern 00:40:32.059 --> 00:40:35.079 time. Hopefully we can get a live version of 00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:39.440 that going. But if not, we'll try to get that 00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:41.800 posted just as close to nine o 'clock as we can. 00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:45.320 But it'll come to you live from Dayton, Ohio 00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:47.500 and get you ready for your trip to Hamvention. 00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:51.840 Or you can attend vicariously through us for 00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:54.960 a list of all of our past and upcoming shows. 00:40:55.420 --> 00:40:58.500 Go to HamTalkLive .com. So for now, this is Neil 00:40:58.500 --> 00:41:04.059 Rapp, WB9VPG, saying 7 -3, 7 -5, and may the 00:41:04.059 --> 00:41:12.389 good DX be yours. I'll be seeing you further 00:41:12.389 --> 00:41:17.289 down the log Your 73's To you and your family 00:41:17.289 --> 00:41:21.610 I'll be seeing you further down the log