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everybody, it's HamTalk Live episode number 324.
The Voice of America Museum of Renovations and
Hamvention Tours recorded on April 8th, 2025.
I'm your host, Neil Rapp, WB9VPG. Thanks for
tuning into this special episode of HamTalk Live.
Tonight we're joined by Lee Hite, K8CLI from
the Westchester Amateur Radio Association and
the National Voice of America Museum of Broadcasting
in Westchester, Ohio. Well, it's been a while.
Oh my gosh. It's been a few months short of two
years since the last episode of Am Talk Live.
And I know many of you, especially lately have
commented that you missed the show as do I, but
unfortunately there's just too many things going
on in life. And, uh, just wasn't time to do the
show show anymore, but I did say I would do a
few episodes now and then when time permitted
and I had some time. So here we are. And, um,
couple of things that, uh, are, are of some strong
interest to, uh, to the show here. Um, there's
been a lot of news circulating, uh, around the
status of voice of America and the renovations
to the museum and. museum was shut down for a
while and so there's a lot of concern out there
about things shutting down and we're going to
put all that to rest. So I thought it was a good
time to come back and talk about it. And as I
was testing the setup just about an hour ago,
I noticed that the live stream feature is missing.
I did some research and turns out that while
the show was on hiatus, Spreaker dropped the
live feature. which was the whole point of the
show back in the day. So my apologies if you
tuned in live and didn't find the show. I'll
try to find a better solution for Ham, Venge
and Eve. Maybe we'll do a do YouTube. Maybe I
can stream it over to YouTube as I record it
and, uh, and do it that way. But, um, we'll,
we'll see how that goes. But anyway, let's talk
with Lee here. Lee Heitkate CLI is the lead docent
and a board member of the National Voice of America
Museum of Broadcasting in Westchester, Ohio.
He's a retired electronics engineer with a passion
for investigating technical issues, occasionally
surrounded with mystery and often bridging several
fields of technology. Lee, you always have interesting
stories to tell. When I think of a historian,
I think of you. And anytime somebody goes to
the museum, I'm like, you got to find Lee. So
Lee, thank you for coming back on the show tonight.
Yeah. Good evening, Neil. And thank you for the
invitation and a hello to you and everyone out
there listening. Uh, it's good to be back and
yes, a lot going on at the museum. We were shut
down for renovations, uh, for a good seven months.
When we first, we got a really nice grant from
the state of Ohio and we did special efforts
to maximize the value of that grant and we anticipated
being shut down for maybe two to three months.
Well, Shame on us. It was a lot bigger project.
I worked every day, Christmas day, New Year's
Eve day, as did others. But it lasted seven months
just to get everything done. So we did a lot.
We needed a lot of infrastructure. We had no
central air conditioning, no central heat. We
were surviving off of a residential furnace.
for most of the museum, and it didn't do the
job. So we put in zone heating. I think we've
got 20 or 21 individual air conditioners and
heat pumps for heat and AC, and they work marvelously.
They're just wonderful, very, very incredibly
efficient. The new ones are just amazing, efficient.
And so we're thrilled to get that. That was the
That was the big part of the renovation. Yeah,
that was a biggie. And then we could put in the
almost all new carpet in the museum. That was
a big project. All the rooms got repainted. And
another big thing, really, I noticed it again
today when I was there, that they put in a drop
ceiling. We never had drop ceilings. And it was
the old original transmitting facility. So the
heat went way, way up. And boy, with the new
drop ceilings, I told Mark, I said, wow, it's
really nice in here. And he says, yeah, you got
drop ceilings, you've got good heat. So we're
thrilled with all the infrastructure. New lighting,
a lot of areas, that kind of thing. So yeah,
we're thrilled. well, we'll talk some more about
the upgrades here in in just a bit, but As we
said the museum will shut down, you know for
for seven months and then then the election hit
and so the the US government announced a slew
of cuts and one of the things that that Initially
was cut and now is back. I guess included the
current voice of America service. So, uh, I know,
uh, executive director Jack Dominic dropped me
an email and said, you know, spread the word
here. Um, there's, there's no danger of closing.
So, so tell us a little bit about what you know
on that and, and clear up anything about, um,
the status of the museum. No, I'd be happy to
deal the we get a lot of emails and a lot of
phone calls now about the the current administration
shutting down the agency and It's important to
say that the museum is a standalone 501 c3 Nonprofit
we have never been connected to voa headquarters.
We have never received any federal funding from
VOA or any other federal agency. So we are completely
independent and we are 100 % not affected by
the actions going on in Washington DC right now.
We have always told the VOA story and we will
continue to tell the VOA story. And I'm reminded
When we first went on the air February 1st 1942
right after Pearl Harbor the opening broadcast
to introduce the voice of America to the world
was The news may be good. The news may be bad
We will tell you the truth and while that's a
catchy phrase you have to think about a little
bit but there's a lot of wisdom in that phrase
because When VOA went on the air, we were losing
World War II big time. In fact, for the first
two years, almost all the broadcasts were bad
information about the United States. Battles
we lost, how many soldiers were killed, tanks
we lost, airplanes we lost. And it wasn't until
two years after going on the air that we started
turning around the war and we actually had some
good news to report. So I know I get a lot of
questions as a docent about, well, why do you
say, well, it's not us, the museum. We try to
understand what headquarters does and tell that
story. But why do they tell bad news? It's the
truth. When it all comes down to it, the VOA
mission is to tell unbiased truth. So you're
going to tell both sides of the story. And I
think that bothers some people when they hear
uncomplimentary things about the United States,
but that's what they do. Right now, when they
went off the air, they were translating over
60 languages and dialects. A huge audience out
there. The weekly listening audience for VOA
was over 220 billion people a week. And when
you back up to the parent organization, which
is USAGM, the United States Agency for Global
Media, they have over 440 million people on a
weekly basis. That includes Radio Free Asia,
Radio Free Europe, Radio Marti, and all of that.
So it's a huge audience. I have never met anyone
that really understands the breadth of the agency
and the need. I tell you, Neil, just be in the
museum for a weekend. We get lots of people coming
in that have immigrated, but they may have been
living here for up to 40 years, 30, 20, 10 years.
They've been living here, and they finally heard
about the museum. They wanted to come out and
see it. And they'll tell their story. And we
in this country do not understand what it's like
to live in a repressive government at all. Because
they start telling their story and it's just
heartbreaking. So when they heard about freedom
through Voice of America, they immigrated. I've
had people in from Vietnam, from China, Ukraine.
that almost break down and cry when they realized
that the message they heard came out of this
station. I mean, it was authored in Morriston,
D .C., but it was broadcast out of Westchester
or Mason at the time. So the importance of telling
the truth remains. That'll never change. So what
we're doing in the museum, we tell the story.
And right from day one, it really hasn't changed.
I know, um, you know, I've had a chance to see
a couple of those, those stories of, you know,
the blanket radios, the little radio hide, hide
under the blanket and, uh, uh, how, you know,
people just relied on, on that, um, service to,
to learn English, to, uh, learn the truth. Um,
All those kinds of things. And like you said,
they're very emotional. They're very elated to
see everything that was delivering the news to
them at the time. Yeah, they put on the task
of effectively communicating. They didn't understand
right at the get -go when they went on the air
in 1942. It took a while to realize that the
American language does not translate into all
these different languages. Idioms don't translate,
and we talk fast, and compound sentences, etc.
So very early, they put on the effort to come
up with a special dictionary. It was called Special
English. but they took the entire American dictionary
and reduced it down to 1 ,500 words that 100
% translate into all these different languages.
I mean, we don't realize Russia does not have
the word the in their language. They don't have
the word science. Their understanding of science
is very different than ours. You're either a
cavist, or a physicist or a mathematician, you're
not an engineer. You're not broad -based. So
it's important to be global. And I think that's
one thing the museum teaches you, is the global
planet that we live on. We are, what, 4 % of
the world population? I don't know, something
like that. And there's a lot going on all over
the world that we just don't see. We don't see,
yeah. But it's, it's exciting. Well, let's, let's
transition over to, to the renovations. Um, I
know, um, my favorite one was the air conditioning
because I've been in that place in the middle
of summer and it, it, it was rather toasty. Um,
and when the shack was renovated, uh, the, the
ham shack, uh, you know, we're able to, to add
that air conditioning and boy, that was nice,
but now, uh, it's the whole place and everything's
been repaved and all this stuff. So, so tell
us about some more of these, these upgrades.
I know we've got the infrastructure and, and
I, and, and the, uh, Generator too. I don't know
if we talked about the generator, but So talk
about all the all these new upgrades to the museum.
Oh sure. Yeah We have we do have a whole building
generator that comes on every Wednesday For a
test and we'll run the museum for a while So
it's run on a regular basis. It kicks in and
you don't even know it. I mean, the local power
company can drop out and this thing kicks in
so fast that you get a little tiny blink in the
lights and that's all you ever see. And we're
up and going. So that's good. In addition to
all of the HVAC, air conditioning and heating,
which was really important and a huge part of
the grant was spent on that, was wiring. Mark
and his contract group pulled out all the old
wiring and we have all brand new wiring in the
conduit. And you should see the wiring that got
pulled out. It was cloth covered and there were
burnt marks in it and you're going like... How
did this survive? Well, it survived because it
was in a metal conduit. Otherwise, it would have
been a big fire. But there was also not a ground
wire run in a lot of it. It was two -wire wiring.
So we are now fully compliant with all the electrical
codes. We never had a fire alarm system. So a
brand new alarm was put in every single room
and all the lights and sensors are installed.
And so we're thrilled about that. That was a
big, the other thing that is a big improvement
is we were not 100 % ADA handicap compliant.
We had a ramp on the control room, but that's
all. So we put in a brand new ADA ramp from the
control, from the platform, the main floor in
the museum. down into the Crosley room in the
college transmitter, that whole area. So you
can come in at the entrance now, which is level
from the parking lot, come right in and see the
entire museum in a wheelchair. And it's all very,
very accessible. So we're very happy to get that.
The parking lot was repaved. Huge job on that.
We paved all the way back through the antenna
switch. back to the township property line and
included several handicapped parking spots, which
we sort of had, but it wasn't very obvious. But
they're put in, they're very nice though. And
it's just nice to drive in and not be going through
potholes. It sounds simple, but it's very nice.
You still have to watch out for the killer geese
though. Then you do we do we have those killer
keys. Yep. Yeah, they There could be several
hundred of them out there and all of a sudden
they decide to cross the driveway and they don't
care about you. They're just gonna waddle on
through at their own speed. So yeah, in the new
exhibits, we are the Voice of America Museum
of Broadcasting. So obviously our charter is
to tell the VOA story. But we're also a museum
of broadcasting. So what we have enhanced considerably
is the subject of broadcasting, particularly
coming through the 20s and 30s and 40s and up
through today. And one of the things that started
with local radio station WLW early was sound
effects. When your radio... I mean, you have
to they call theater of the mind. You have to
use your mind to imagine what's going on. So
they implemented sound effects. And so we built
over the course of being shut down a huge what's
called Foley lab. The gentleman by the name of
Foley coined the word that sound effects as you
add sound effects on. It's a science. It really
it's an art of science. It's learned. But you
learn by doing So people have a blast going in
there. It's all hands on. They can do it all.
And it's one of the things that people don't
want to leave. They're in there playing and they
want to keep playing with all the sound effects.
So that works out very well. You can't hear it,
but I'm sitting here playing with my sound effects
while we're talking about this. I have the sound
effects here. We can even play the Bao Feng song.
Yeah, okay. So we got our sound effects in. Good,
good. And the exciting thing, Neil, I haven't
talked about is we, Joe Gruber, our chief technology
officer, designed a stem lab, a radio stem lab,
several years ago. And it was popular, it worked,
and people enjoyed it. It was on the second level
of the museum, a lot of steps to get there. And
that just didn't work for the general population
that comes in the museum. So we renovated a room
and moved the STEM lab downstairs and greatly
enhanced it. Joe has done an awesome job enhancing
the STEM lab. So STEM groups from around the
area are more than welcome to come in and learn
how radio works. I mean, one of the messages
is you can't go five minutes every day without
radio. It's either Wi -Fi, cellular, Bluetooth,
you know, you can name them all, but radio is
probably not well understood by most people in
terms of its impact it's having on society. So
we've taken on the task and we will explain that.
That's today. What's coming down the road is
we're in major planning right now for the new
STEM lab. And what we're going to do is we have
used AI to generate pictures of all the luminaries
that developed radio, Hertz. Faraday, Voltaic,
and all that. And at each station we have experiments
that you can operate yourself to see what Hertz
did to find out that you could push an electromagnetic
wave through the air and actually do it. We have
a spark transmitter, a very active functional
spark transmitter. which is how Hertz did it
originally. And so we have luminary pictures
on the wall. They look like they were photographed
yesterday. It doesn't look like these old -fashioned
black and white, ugly -looking things of these
luminaries, these inventors and people that discovered
it. What we're doing is we've received a very
nice grant to enhance the STEM lab, and we're
going to animate these luminaries so that you
could sit down and have a conversation with Mr.
Faraday or Hertz or Benjamin Franklin or any
of the people that contributed to understanding
magnetism and electricity, which eventually developed
into the electromagnetic wave. So that's in works.
It's it's expensive to do. It's very technical
But we will have probably the most advanced step
lab radio stem lab not stem lab But radio stem
lab in the whole probably the world because no
one else is doing what we're doing and and and
we think it's very important because a Podcast
that's radio. That's what we're doing tonight.
It's radio. I mean without radio we we wouldn't
be anywhere. So That's new, working on that.
As I mentioned, we're putting in a very nice
radio station. It won't be on the air, but it
will look like it's live on the air. So people
understand what was the world like before digital?
We don't have no flat screens. It's all analog,
analog control board, reel -to -reel tape. We've
got a wire recorder because wire was used all
the way up into the 40s. So we've got that. We've
got current machines. We've got the big 22 -inch
turntables. We've got transmitters. We've got
a big audio rack. All you had to do is put it
on the air and it would be a very functional
radio station. And that's another way to discuss
broadcasting and how it all came about because
it's been going on for a very long time. And
then we did enhance the Crosley display. We probably
have the largest collection of Crosley items
in the country. And we've added things. We're
going to be adding more things. We've added appliances.
He was in the appliance business. And so we've
added a kitchen counter and cabinets to the museum.
Lots of fun stuff. I know people come in now
and they they don't leave Yeah, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
And yeah, the appliances my favorite is the refrigerator
with the radio built in. Yep. Yep Gotta have
the radio well Lee we're gonna take a minute
here to take a break and it's been such a long
time since we've We've done the show and when
we're not using sponsors because you know, it's
just every once in a while. But we do have a
minute to take to go back and look at an old
N9GSU ham radio joke of the week. So we will
do that and then we'll come back. We'll talk
more about some of the broadcasting features
coming to the museum. and what's coming up for
Hamvention this year at the museum. But right
now we're going to go to the Ham Radio Joke of
the Week. Now it's time for the HamTalk Live
Ham Radio Joke of the Week, the part of the show
where Rick tells us a ham radio joke. The HamTalk
Live Ham Radio Joke of the Week is brought to
you by QRM Labs. Now here's Rick Garrett in 9GSU
with today's HamTalk Live Joke of the Week. I
was so excited when I heard my wife say she was
going to Dayton to look for an antenna. I was
very disappointed when I realized what she really
said. She was going to look after Aunt Anna.
And welcome back to ham talk live and While we're
talking about the in nine GSU joke of the week
our friends over at the ham radio guy Marvin
Turner W0MET Rick's over there telling the ham
radio joke of the week now. So make sure you
check that out. I was on his podcast last night
and So that'll be coming out here in the next
day or so But but Rick's over there telling jokes
on on the ham radio guy podcast. So if you miss
the jokes why You can check those out over there.
We're here with Lee height k8 CLI uh, from the
voice of America museum of broadcasting in Westchester,
Ohio. And, and you know, the official name is
the national voice of America museum of broadcasting.
And, and, uh, as you said, uh, that's really
being emphasized. So, so tell us a little more
about this new, uh, new studio coming and, and,
and, and can I, can I run ham talk live from
it? I remember how to use real to real. Uh, well,
Probably not, but we thought about putting in
a podcast station. We did consider putting in
a live operational podcast station. One thing
we should mention, Neil, with this being HamTalk
Live, is our amateur radio club, the Westchester
Amateur Radio Association. It's been a while
since you've had a podcast, and the club... totally
modernized the ham station. It is absolutely
awesome. Huge flat screens, new transmitters.
We got new antennas. We had a donation of just
an awesome crankover antenna. All the antennas
have been renovated. The club took on the task
of being a volunteer examiner, and so they do
VE exams once a month, and it turned out to be
very popular. We get a large turnout. I'm one
of the members, and we will get a lot of people
coming in on a Saturday morning for testing.
Most of the time, almost everyone passes, once
in a while, they don't. continue they'll come
back and test for a upgrade license and also
as a reminder the ham club the ham shack has
Open shack night on Wednesday nights. So anyone
from the public any amateur radio operator Welcome
to come in operate the station. Yep operate any
of the transmitters Whatever band happens to
be open and active at the time and we do get
we do get The public coming a lot of club members
come in on on wednesday night open shack night
is wednesday night, uh 7 pm to 9 pm And so you're
both welcome. If you're in the area vacationing,
uh, try to make it on wednesday night Good stop
in see everybody. They'd be thrilled to see you
Yeah, it's a it's a great uh It was great to
start with and now it's even better. And, uh,
I'm going to talk here in a little bit about,
uh, an opportunity for some young people to come
operate the shack. So we'll, we'll save that
for the end here, but, uh, uh, lots of opportunities.
And speaking of one great opportunity to come
operate the shack and check everything out is
during Dayton Hamvention. So tell us about the
plans for this year's. Hamvention open house.
Yes, we are very excited. We have a very successful
open house during Hamvention. We open Thursday
evening. We start Thursday. We're open Thursday,
Friday, Saturday and Sunday. We start Thursday
at noon and noon until I believe nine o 'clock
and the rest of the week Friday, Saturday, it's
noon till 9 o 'clock and then Sunday it's noon
till I think we close at 5 p .m. But we have
a huge turnout. We've had upwards of 400 hams
come in that will come down either on their way
home or just come down for the evening because
ham ham veg and such down fairly early. And so
they've got a free evening, and we're just packed.
We're just packed. So lots of things to see.
Come on down and see the new ham shack, see the
new antennas, and see the museum. There's just
a lot of fun things for hams to do in the museum
itself. So yeah, we're very excited. We'll be
open. Yeah, always a great time. And I'm not
sure if I'm going to make it this time. I'm usually
there every Saturday. during Hamvention, but
I have some other obligations this year, but
I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to schedule
a different night to come, but I always run into
a lot of folks at the museum, and it's always
a great time. and a chance to get in there and
run some pileups and operate and check everything
out. And, you know, so if you're traveling and
you're in the area, it's not that far to make
the drive down on an evening and or come a day
early or stay a day later and go check out the
museum. I want to encourage everybody to do that.
And of course, the websites, you can find all
that information voamuseum .org and whiskeycharlie8voiceofamerica,
wc8voa .org. And I'm sure all that's posted there
and you could find out more about it. Lee, anything
else that we need to talk about here before we
talk about a special event coming up here at
the museum? Well, I would encourage everyone
to come see the Renovator Museum. It's a brand
new museum, a lot more inviting, a lot more accessible,
and we love suggestions. If you have a suggestion,
we want to know about it. I'm the curator for
the museum, and I get a lot of comments. Why
don't you do this or why don't you do that or
why don't you do it this way? Those are highly
valuable. I Just can't wait to hear those things
because it's an outsider's viewpoint. I'm inside
I'm there every day, you know, I don't see the
through the same eyes that other people see through
So when you're in the museum, feel free to make
a comment. Leave me a note Send me an email.
I really do want to hear hear your comments and
suggestions on what you like and what you don't
like, what you think we could do better, et cetera.
We're still improving and innovating, if you
will. And we'll make a major announcement when
the new STEM lab is ready. We're probably a year
away on that. That's a major task to do all that.
But we'll make an announcement when that new
STEM lab, radio STEM lab, is ready. Other than
that, it's just a great visit. It's very family
-friendly. We're getting more and more families
and the kids are finding things to do. The kids
love the sound effects lab. They like the hands
-on part of the Crosley exhibit. The radio thing
is a lot more people -friendly. There's a lot
of things to do. Come on in. Normally, other
than Hamvention, it's open every Saturday and
Sunday, noon to 4 p .m. So if you're in the area,
stop in. Okay. Well, I think we've hit about
everything there, Lee, so thank you so much.
Yep. Coming on and being with us tonight and
talk about that. And I've got another announcement
here. I actually made it last night, but we'll,
we'll make it here too. Uh, the voice of America
museum is going to be the host of the brand new
youth on the air junior camp. Uh, that's coming
up July 25th through the 27th this year, 2025.
Um, now you, you. Probably have heard about the
the region -wide camp that we've had. This will
be the fifth year It's going to be out in Denver
in June this year But this is a sub regional
camp. So this is geared just to the US And this
one is a three -day long weekend for licensed
TAMs under the age of 15 so all of our Region
-wide camps are for the ages of 15 through 25
But this one is going to be for those hams under
the age of 15. And we've had a lot of people
wanting to come to camp, but they're 10 and 11
and they can do the ham radio bit. It's just
a different social group. And so we're very excited
to get this started and we are just piloting
this and we're trying to find our way through
this. It's kind of a newer thing that we... uh...
haven't done even worldwide a whole lot uh...
so we're we're kinda navigating that but since
you know you gotta travel and everything we're
we're gonna ask that a parent accompany the young
ham the parent does not need to have a ham radio
license though but the child does need to be
licensed uh... in order to do some of the activities
so uh... Uh, we're going to do plenty of operating
at the club station and, uh, we're going to practice
some contesting skills. We're going to build
a kit, do some direction finding out in the front
yard. Uh, while the museum is open, uh, so we
don't interfere with the, uh, with the museum
operation. And then, uh, we will also take a
tour of the museum and have some social gatherings
and, uh, the applications are going to be open
anytime. In fact, it may already be there by
the time you hear this. at youthontheair .org.
The cost is just $100 per person. So it's $100
for the youth, $100 for the adult or adults that
come along. And then you also have to get to
and from Cincinnati, but we take care of everything
from when you step foot in Cincinnati until you
leave Cincinnati. Food, hotel, the whole bit.
And thanks greatly to ARDC, Amateur Radio and
Digital Communications, for funding the junior
camp. So thanks to them. And I know, Lee, you've
been there when the bigger kids are there. This
will be a great chance for the younger kids to
show up. It will. And if any of you that have
ever been in the previous Youth on the Air, Neil
Rapp is just awesome. He puts on the most amazing
educational experience. I mean, he's a professional
professor. now in terms of teaching, but when
it comes to doing amateur radio education, you
don't want to miss this thing. Neil, no one does
it better. I don't know how else to say it, but
no one else does it. You've got to come experience
it. Now that it's under age 15, it'll be a whole
brand new experience for people. So yeah, Neil's
awesome at this. Well, thank you. Thank you so
much. Yeah, it's just gonna be a little miniature
camp and they'll kind of feed into the bigger
camp when you get older and So we're really looking
forward to to bringing that to the Voice of America
Museum and kind of getting getting all the bugs
worked out of it this year and then our plan
is to kind of make this a camp in a box so we
can just send a box of stuff to a club and they
can put on the camp in different locations and
so to cut down on some of the travel. But this
is your chance to come to the VOA Museum. It's
always a special time. You know, we've enjoyed
being at some of the colleges and some of the
other places, but boy, we miss being at the museum
and it's going to come back to the museum here
in a few years. So we'll be grateful for that
as well. Well, we don't have sponsors for the
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and encourage you to check them out at icon America
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sponsor tonight. At least that's what Andy KK
for LWR says that our show should have a new
sponsor. So we have a new sponsor. It's Tree
Electronics. It's our new sponsor. If you can't
afford a tower, a tree has you covered. And you
can visit them online at so -239 .com or at least
that's what Andy said. So, you know, you can't
always trust everything that Andy says, but.
All right. Well, that's a wrap for this edition
of HamTalk Live. Thanks to my guest, Lee Heitkate,
CLI and everybody out there in cyberspace for
listening and invite you back. We're going to
do another one. Ham, Vincent, Eve. That's May
15th, Thursday, May 15th at nine p .m. Eastern
time. Hopefully we can get a live version of
that going. But if not, we'll try to get that
posted just as close to nine o 'clock as we can.
But it'll come to you live from Dayton, Ohio
and get you ready for your trip to Hamvention.
Or you can attend vicariously through us for
a list of all of our past and upcoming shows.
Go to HamTalkLive .com. So for now, this is Neil
Rapp, WB9VPG, saying 7 -3, 7 -5, and may the
good DX be yours. I'll be seeing you further
down the log Your 73's To you and your family
I'll be seeing you further down the log