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Welcome to Leveling Up with Lindsay, the podcast

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where we dive into leadership, small business,

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and everything in between. I'm Lindsay, your

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host and the proud owner of White Pony Boutique,

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a space created to empower women, build confidence,

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and foster meaningful connections. Whether you're

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an entrepreneur, a mom, a friend, or someone

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just looking for a little inspiration, This is

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your space to feel seen, supported, and inspired.

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Join me as we share stories, strategies, and

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a little bit of life's chaos while navigating

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what it truly means to level up in starting a

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business, relationship, and personal growth.

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So grab a cup of coffee, get comfy, and let's

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level up together. Welcome back to Leveling Up

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with Lindsay. Today's guest is someone I deeply

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admire, not just because of the beautiful business

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she's built. but because of the strength, authenticity,

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and heart she leads with every day. Samantha

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is the founder of Pure Bliss, a business rooted

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in care, intention, and connection. She's also

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a devoted mom of three who has walked through

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seasons that have tested her, stretched her,

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and shaped her into the woman she is today. This

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conversation is about rising, not even when everything

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is perfect, but when life calls you to begin

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again. It's about navigating motherhood. business

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and leadership in the midst of real life challenges

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and learning how to do it all your own way. Whether

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you're a small business owner, a team leader,

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or simply someone in a season of rebuilding,

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this episode will remind you that you're not

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behind, you're being built and you are not alone.

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Samantha, I am so grateful to have you here.

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So let's kind of dive into your story. Thank

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you for having me. Let's start at the beginning

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for those who don't know your story or who you

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are or what pure bliss is. How about let's give

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a little background to everybody starting with

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you. Starting with me. So my name is Samantha

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Jonas. I grew up on a dairy farm in Long Prairie

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or just west of Long Prairie and So got to be

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raised throwing rocks throwing hay bales milking

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cows doing all the fun things the farm thing

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fun farm dirty things so but as much as I didn't

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appreciate that as a child and strived to get

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away from it I as an adult I'm ever so grateful.

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It definitely instilled values. I can see it

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in your social media with your kiddos doing it

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little bits now. Yeah with my hobby farm. Yeah

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no it's definitely something that I think just

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in general we've lost a lot of that way. I agree.

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getting them and getting their feet in the dirt

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is good for them. Growing up on the dairy farm,

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went to Long Prairie High School, went to the

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model college in St. Cloud here, and went to

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beauty school there. Once I was done and completed

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that, I went off to North Dakota for my North

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Dakota cosmetology license. And by doing that,

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then I had reciprocity between both states. So

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I was licensed in both North Dakota and in Minnesota.

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I got into a really amazing salon there called

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Oliveri's. It was a really high -end salon. That

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was something I just, a standard I set for myself.

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I knew that it's nothing against anybody else.

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It's not that I didn't want to work at a Great

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Clips or Cost Cutters or any other kind of cookie

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cutter type of a salon, but I wanted to. rise

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above. I wanted to be different and I wanted

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to set a higher standard for myself. From the

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get -go, I feel like I wanted to be able to provide

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a higher level of a service for my guests. With

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that comes education. So I got to be a part of

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a lot more hair shows and just attend a lot of

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different hair shows, different conferences,

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things like that, which really, I feel like helped

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level me up in my career. So six years ago is

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when I had the idea of opening Pure Bliss, I

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guess you could say, or at least when it came

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to fruition. It had always been an idea when

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I had worked at GB and Company in St. Cloud for

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a decade, I had always had this thought. that

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I would be able to open up my own salon. And

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that was something I really, I think, always

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strived for. I'm not positive I ever thought

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it would actually come to fruition. I think that's

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one of those, like, you know, princess dress

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dreams when we're little. And you're like, oh,

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I'm going to be able to do this. I'm going to

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have this fairy tale wedding and whatever. So

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I think I always dreamed that I would be able

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to own my own salon. It's so crazy. Like as a

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business owner, you look back, no, well, my business

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is older than five years, I guess, but it's so

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crazy to look back even 10 years ago and to think

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that where you are now with your salon or, you

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know, with my personal business, it's something

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you always dreamed of. I love how you said that,

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but it is the reality of where things are at

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now in the chaos of your busy schedule. Sometimes

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you've got to. take a moment and look back and

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be like, wow, it's crazy. Your dream is here.

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I'm having a lot of wow moments lately, especially

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to reflect and think that Pure Bliss was born

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six years ago. Congratulations. Thank you. It

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has been a journey for sure. Starting it six

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years ago, I had the vision of opening it in

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Avon. That's home base, mother base. When I had

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that vision, I had told my husband at the time

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that if we could make it work with just me and

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one other independent, that it was going to be

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worth it. Six years later, and I think over all

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three locations, there are almost 40 independents.

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Wow, that's a lot. It has been definitely a blessing

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and a dream. And tell anyone listening your locations.

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Yeah, so Avon was the first, like I said, kind

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of mothership and then we opened up in St. Cloud

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and actually that was kind of an interesting

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fruition as well because the St. Cloud location

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is the old GB & Company location. So when that

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space had become vacant, then I had a friend

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approach and say, hey, do you want a second Pure

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Bliss location? And I was like, oh, for goodness

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sakes, I don't know about this. And he just he

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made the opportunity too good to say no. Oh,

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I am so thankful for that. And it was really

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cool to be back in that space and to make it

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my own space, to update it, to make it what I

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envisioned was something that I could have never

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imagined. So I love that St. Cloud was number

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two. And then St. Joseph was the third location.

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There was a gal that had come in. had interviewed

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at my Avon salon actually from what would have

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been the old cost cutter location and she was

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like Hey, I need a spot to work. And I was like,

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what's happening? And then it clicked. And I

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thought St. Joe would have always been an amazing

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space to have a salon. Great communities that

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you're in. Oh, I feel very blessed for sure.

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So you go from a dream to three salons, which

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is incredible. It's a lot to manage. And I know

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as a business owner, it is a journey as a leader

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of 40 independent sellers. That's also a journey.

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And you're a mom of three. So tell us a little

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bit about the beauty and the chaos of being a

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mother and a business owner. It's definitely

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chaotic, isn't it? You can empathize with that

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one. I did a lot of reflecting on that this morning.

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early mornings, the navigating, the mindset.

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We briefly talked about the mindset this morning

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and just the five seconds we can get as a mom

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to be able to think of all these other things

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because I think in general our mind is so like...

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go, go, go. But yeah, as a business owner, we're

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go, go, go. So then you have these two worlds

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clashing and colliding of trying to navigate

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and coordinate all these different schedules

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and the things that you have to do. And it is

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most definitely chaotic. It's chaotic. It can

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be very difficult at times. And I know that you

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would agree it's most rewarding. I think what's

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so important is even like with business and sitting

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in, we talked about this, looking back and just

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taking in the journey that you're in as a business

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owner. But then what's also most important, even

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more important is taking a moment and sitting

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and being in the moment with our kiddos. And

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I am lucky to have you as a friend and on social

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media. So I love seeing your Snapchats of you

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and your kids with your archery moments or with

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your animals on your little hobby farm. I think

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that is so neat and your silly moments with the

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kiddos. There's nothing that as a chaotic Business

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or someone that you know, that's cool. You've

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got a lot on your plate and so to me when I have

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those moments with my children or my family that

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like Refuels it almost like sets a reset button

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in my soul like in your heart in your mind and

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all it's like Okay. Just be, sometimes you have

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to really manipulate your mind to like shut off

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the outside stuff with work. You know that very

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well, but to be in the moment with your kiddos,

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but honestly, if there's a day for me at the

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lake with my daughters in, you know, on the boat

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or at one of their softball games, I've like

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forget about the rest of the world. And it is

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my favorite time. Would you agree? Like what

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moments are that for you? I would have to agree.

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But I will also say, I wasn't always like that.

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Yeah, no, I agree with that. That's a great point.

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I will say, and you know, you had asked how to

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navigate or how I'm navigating that in the beginning

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of it all, you try to do so much and you try

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to be everything. So there were versions of me

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that I was... focused on the salons and I was

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focused on the independence and at that time

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I tried employees and being not only a boss and

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a wife and a mother and a landlord per se but

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I was really getting lost and when you get stretched

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too thin which at this point in my life and through

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some of the darkest seasons I've ever been through

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I now see how I was stretched to every limit

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that I never should have been, but I'm never

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going to discount it. Because without that stretching,

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without being pushed to my limits and experiencing

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what I've experienced, I wouldn't be who I am

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today. And so the journey, my kids six years

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ago were very young. I mean, my youngest was

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one and a half. So there was a lot of sacrifice.

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And I look back to those first days. in opening

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up Avon and I have some of the most beautiful

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memories of them sitting on the floor helping

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fold the towels and the capes and like just being

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in the space and helping put it together. We

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did a lot of the work ourselves, which was so

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rewarding, but also very time consuming because

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you try to pinch every penny and to make it work

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as a family. And as my extended family, we've

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always done things together and we've always

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worked together to build things. So. That was

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always a big part of my journey and our journey,

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but I can attest to the, I understand where you're

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coming from with the chaos, but it is a version

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of chaos. I mean, you're, you're navigating it

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and you're figuring it out. Yeah. And I think

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the most important piece here and six years into

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business, I think for a new business owner or

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even someone with a new position in a company,

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a really great friend of mine, Nicole Winter

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said, you go through seasons as motherhood as

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well. And I think I would say that is absolutely

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okay. Speaking to somebody that is possibly going

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to open a new business or thinking about it.

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I would never do anything different. Well, there's

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a few little things I would do different, but

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I would start the same. I would go through the

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hard lessons. My children would be right alongside

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me through it all. At times, I felt like I was

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feeling as a mom. At times, I felt like I was

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feeling as a friend. At times, I felt like I

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was feeling as a wife. At times, I felt like

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I was feeling as an entrepreneur, you know, trying

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to figure it all out. However... what's so magical

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is like putting one foot in front of the other

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and how amazing is it that we had our kiddos

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by our side and actually what they see you know

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what we've been through what they've gone through

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really has taught them greater lessons than we

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could probably ever imagine. I'll never forget

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when one of my girls wrote paragraph about I'm

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gonna get choked up about mom and business and

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I was like and you know if you were to as a Entrepreneur

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especially six years in our kids being younger

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and growing up kind of in the most important

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time of their right like I have teenagers now

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in a tough season Yeah, they're busy. They're

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learning But if I was like, if you were to send

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one of her children to, you know, to talk to

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someone, I'd be like, ooh, what's going to come

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out of that? But seeing, having this presentation

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done from one of my girls and it talking about

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how awesome their mom is, I literally cried and

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I'm going to get choked up, but I cried like

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a baby because I'm like, that's what matters.

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They took the really awesome, the good out of

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it. So what's important to know is I remember,

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let's take it back, I remember being in the most

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executive part of my career at my past job. And

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I opened White Pony Boutique. I was working seven

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days a week. And I'm sure you can attest to putting

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in those kind of hours when you open up one of

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your new locations or started your journey. But

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I would get up at five in the morning. You know,

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obviously I've got my little ones, we've got

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car seats, we've got things. Bring them to daycare,

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go spend an hour at the boutique, go to work.

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50 hours there 50 sometimes 60 maybe more then

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I would come home get my kids fed sometimes on

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the go we would have them literally come with

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me to like let's say the shed and I'd work there

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until I had to go to bed bring them home go to

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bed work on my computer or whatever I had to

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do until sometimes honestly two in the morning

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or my husband would finally get home put them

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to bed and then I'd go back to the shed and work

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until one to two in the morning it sounds crazy

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But when you're so passionate about like putting

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one foot in front of the other, it makes sense.

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But like you said, you teach them. We are teaching

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them to be leaders. We are teaching them that

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their dreams don't just have to be dreams. These

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can become a reality. It just takes a lot of

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hard... work and dedication and perseverance.

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Perseverance was a word for me this morning.

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Just sitting and reflecting a lot of times when

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I wake up in the morning and I do my gratitudes

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and try to think of something I really want to

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focus on for the day and reflecting on being

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able to have this opportunity and come here and

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just the perseverance that it has taken and some

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of the parts of my journey that I've had to go

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through. It coincides with what you said on you

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just can't give up. There are going to be seasons

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when you're talking about new entrepreneurs.

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There are going to be seasons that are super

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hard. And that doesn't just go for entrepreneurs.

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We're talking about moms. We're talking about

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dads. We're talking about friendships. There

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are seasons in every section of your life that

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you need to be able to push through. And there

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are some seasons that just need to be called

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quits. You need to decide whether or not this

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is worth it. pushing forward and you're dedicated

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to doing it. Or if you just cap it at that part

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of its beautiful season and calling it a day.

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Yeah. That reminds me the word that comes to

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my mind with what you just said in perseverance

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and, and understanding what's working, what's

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not pushing through. Honestly, I think, would

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you agree over six years as a mom moving in your

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business journey boundaries? And I think it comes

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with a little bit of age. I don't know about

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you, but I would say. There are really hard times.

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I am trying to be better at boundaries for myself

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in so many ways, but that that's a. I feel like

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in general, as a human being, we are going to

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have to continue to work on our boundaries. I

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was terrible, I'll be honest, at boundaries,

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especially with being a hairstylist. We are people

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pleasers by nature. And so anytime someone would

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ask for something at the salon. Yep. Done. Got

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it. Didn't matter. I just did it. I didn't think

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of the numbers. I never thought of anything.

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It was, I want to keep everyone happy. I'm going

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to do this. I thought as the salons grew, the

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more I did, I thought that... I would become

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more of a joy in my family's eyes and that I

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would be an inspiration. And I didn't see the

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detriment it was actually doing. I mean, all

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of that, you know, has to come together and you

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do go through those seasons and just knowing

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that there are going to be tough times, but you

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have to persevere and you have to push through.

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OK, so I'd say you've always been so open and

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honest about the not so glamorous moments. And

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if there is one thing you wish more moms, especially

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working moms, heard more often, is that it? I

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think I had made a post on this just recently.

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But what I would tell these moms, whether you're

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a working mom, a stay at home mom, I did daycare

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for a little while. I didn't know that. So I

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mean, at one point, I had three jobs to make

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my dreams come true. So. I would have to say

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to these moms, mothers, no matter who you are

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and what you do, I see you. I truly, truly see

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you. As a mom, we end our days or even sometimes

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we don't even get to the end of our day and we

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are so insanely exhausted from the waking up,

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making our own schedules to making sure our kids

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are put together. Their schedules are taken care

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of and they have everything that they need and

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ordered and birthday parties and... holidays

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and birthday presents and X, Y, and Z. I mean,

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it's just Easter money. Oh, the tomb fairy. We

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should also make a preface. Maybe if you're driving

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with your kids right now, you should turn it

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down. Start when you're by yourself. Okay. We

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could go a whole nother episode of the things

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about being a mom that they don't, not in the

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fine. It's in the fine print. It's in the fine

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print. St. Patrick's day. You have to do a leprechaun.

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Sorry to cut in, but the tooth fairy thing is

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my least favorite. I'm just going to throw that

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out there. The teeth. All the teeth. There were

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times at about five in the morning. You have

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the old moment. The old bleep moment. Can we

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do a bleep? That I took our stairs 10 at a time

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to run to get all the money. What about the elf?

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The damn elf. There have been seasons in your

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life that weren't in the plan that called for

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a lot of strength and a lot of rebuilding. Can

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you share what chapter taught you about yourself,

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your identity and what you're capable of? Yeah,

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a year ago, literally one year ago, my world

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got flipped upside down. And as a wife at the

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time to be shook the way I was. and to have the

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flip happen that happened, it's undescribable.

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I was actually reflecting with a client yesterday

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and I had said, it's been one year. And they

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said, it was hard to watch you go through what

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you went through. Is it weird of me to say that

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I was in such a space and in such a survival

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mode and my kids were at the root of everything

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that mattered? at that point that I dropped everything

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when my world shattered a year ago when I hit

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rock bottom. And because of that, I wish I could

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have seen it through other people's eyes. I don't

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know what that would have looked like. I mean,

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I've really tried. I think as a mom and as a

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business owner, we really try to put ourselves

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together and try to put on this face. And you

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really try to be someone that. people would be

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able to look up to and as much as there are things

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that I would love to share just in the season

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of I'll say divorce because that's Ultimately

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what is happening. There are certain things I

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can't share, but I would never wish What I went

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through on anybody as an outsider a friend a

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fellow business owner in the community Sam you

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stand out to so many you lead with love and passion

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and you really you know put action and emotion

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like so without knowing details as someone from

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an outside perspective I wouldn't be so hard

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on yourself to think and maybe that's not the

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right wording but to see you from a 30 ,000 foot

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view it wasn't it's not ugly but you just know

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and it's okay to like hold yourself protect yourself

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a little bit so when you said you dropped everything

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from an outside you're still in my eyes definitely

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doing it all, you could just see a little bit

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of an emptiness there. And it wasn't in your

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drive. It wasn't in your passion. When you wear

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your heart on your sleeve for the world, for

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your business, for your family, when you feel

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a little broken. And you're usually very open.

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You are an open person. It's really difficult

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to, they say, fake it till you make it. Well,

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you can try that. You can try it, but guess what?

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Those who love you the most and know who you

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are, it's really hard to fake it till you make

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it. Yeah. When my earth shattered a year ago.

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Nothing prepares you for that, honestly. Like

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marriages have challenges. I totally understand

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that and I see it and I've had countless friends

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and men or women come to me and ask for even

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their own advice and I give what I can and I

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will tell and I will preach to everyone that

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you fight for that marriage. You fight for it.

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It is your vow. It is something that you made

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a sacrament to each other for and it is insanely

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special. There are times that will come that

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you can no longer fight those battles and I will

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say I held on as long as I possibly could and

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fought as long as I possibly could for that.

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I didn't realize the depth of shame that I thought

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I would have felt from having to say I was getting

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divorced or that I would be divorced. So I think

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I remember going to confession with my kiddos

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and my faith has become insanely strong through

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this. And I will say for anyone going through

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it, nothing prepares you to pick your children

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up and to pick yourself up. And, you know, they've

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had to see me cry more in the last year than

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I probably ever have cried. And I took that with

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grace when I say that, like, let your children.

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truly see you. As a mom, why do we have to put

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on this face? We do it for everyone. We just

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said that, right? Like we can put on a face for

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the world, but why? You're trying to teach those

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kids to be empathetic, beautiful, loving, kind

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human beings. And if you put on a face, what

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are you showing them? That you can put on this

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mask and not truly... Express who they are and

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how they feel and that they have to shove it

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down, you know back in our day, right? it was

00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:52.440
a go to your room to cry or whatever and I Tell

00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:55.440
my kids please feel your feelings. Please cry

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like and I was that mom I will be completely

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honest and saying that I was not always the kindest

00:24:01.420 --> 00:24:04.019
mom I was not always the best mom and I wasn't

00:24:04.019 --> 00:24:08.079
always the best wife. So I have owned my what

00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:12.450
you can call my shit I've owned it. I've accepted

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it. I threw myself into therapy. I took a massive

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step back from my businesses. I have amazing

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managers at the salon that, you know, I think

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as a business owner, we get nervous and scared

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to be like handing our baby. Literally, it's

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like taking your newborn baby and being like,

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here, take it and have them take care of it.

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And for me to be able to entrust in those women

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that they've got it. and they have held this

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up for an entire year. And I am ever so thankful

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and proud of them as I needed to transition my

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focus as a mother back to my children because

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I needed to heal and they needed to heal. And

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we needed to work through this brand new season

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of darkness, but bring it to light. We talk about

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the rising and when you asked me about the different

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topics or themes for it. The rising spoke out

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to me because I actually, what would have been

00:25:07.859 --> 00:25:10.859
our anniversary date, got a massive phoenix on

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my side because I don't want to look at my old

00:25:14.539 --> 00:25:17.359
anniversary date as a detriment. I don't want

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to look at it as something that I'm going to

00:25:20.819 --> 00:25:24.279
regret every day because I never will. My marriage

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brought me my children. It brought me life lessons.

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I'm going to learn from this. I'm going to grow

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from it. I once loved that man dearly. So he

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has taught me things that I couldn't, I mean,

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I'm always going to be thankful for. Was I thankful

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for what I had to go through? No. Is it hard

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and challenging? But it's still hard and challenging.

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And I feel like it shook me so much to my core

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that I got to be come a thousand times better

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version of a mom than I could have ever, ever

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been. I've gotten told by friends and co -workers

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I smile so much more. I smile different. I see

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it in my own photos. I literally, like I could

00:26:09.950 --> 00:26:12.049
have said this from the first sentence that you

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had said, I am so proud of you. First of all,

00:26:15.950 --> 00:26:20.309
so strong, so incredibly strong, Sam, and how

00:26:20.309 --> 00:26:23.309
you have evolved in a year and how you stand

00:26:23.309 --> 00:26:26.660
stronger. being so dang confident in your faith,

00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:30.099
your family and your journey of who you are and

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like what makes you take you glow completely

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different in such a beautiful way. You have always

00:26:35.519 --> 00:26:38.099
been beautiful. You have always been an incredible

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inspiration. But like, I just have to tell you,

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I feel so blessed to have you on this and talk

00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:46.880
about your journey because going through something

00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:49.500
like that. And like you said, you felt like you

00:26:49.500 --> 00:26:51.940
hit rock bottom, but to take one foot in front

00:26:51.940 --> 00:26:55.140
of the other, lean in on what matters the most

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and, you know, bringing your children in tighter,

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allowing people in your business to flourish

00:27:01.460 --> 00:27:06.160
when it was the hardest for you. And then just

00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:10.789
taking day by day and you're becoming, this is

00:27:10.789 --> 00:27:13.049
incredible. Thank you. And I agree. And when

00:27:13.049 --> 00:27:15.190
you say I smile differently and I can see it,

00:27:15.430 --> 00:27:17.430
I literally from head to toe have the chills

00:27:17.430 --> 00:27:20.509
down my whole body. It is such a beautiful thing

00:27:20.509 --> 00:27:23.430
that has come from something not so great, but

00:27:23.430 --> 00:27:26.309
it is beautiful. So you should be very, very

00:27:26.309 --> 00:27:28.730
proud. And there's nothing to say that that it

00:27:28.730 --> 00:27:31.390
was anything on him. It was a darkness that we

00:27:31.390 --> 00:27:34.490
created together. I can only ever hope the best

00:27:34.490 --> 00:27:37.289
for him. And I pray that he and I hope that he

00:27:37.289 --> 00:27:40.869
has his glow and his happiness. I mean. It's

00:27:40.869 --> 00:27:43.690
never easy to let go of an 18 -year relationship,

00:27:43.950 --> 00:27:47.130
but I am trying to find solitude in the season

00:27:47.130 --> 00:27:50.349
and in that path and knowing that there is something

00:27:50.349 --> 00:27:53.529
greater for me. I have gone through so many things

00:27:53.529 --> 00:27:56.410
in the last year and I'm so ever so thankful

00:27:56.410 --> 00:27:59.410
for it. I think once I flipped my mindset to

00:27:59.410 --> 00:28:03.509
being you know in fight or flight and truly being

00:28:03.509 --> 00:28:06.730
able to find myself going out with friends and

00:28:06.890 --> 00:28:09.910
absorbing my hobby farm and riding the horses

00:28:09.910 --> 00:28:13.450
and picking up, shooting bow and being able to

00:28:13.450 --> 00:28:17.009
maintenance a 12 acre farm by myself for an entire

00:28:17.009 --> 00:28:19.309
year. Strong. That's what I'm going to look at

00:28:19.309 --> 00:28:21.089
you. That is my word for you. I know you said

00:28:21.089 --> 00:28:24.150
perseverance, which is so exactly part of that.

00:28:24.269 --> 00:28:27.329
But strength, girl. Thank you. I love that you

00:28:27.329 --> 00:28:30.210
are. you know, leap this out if you need to,

00:28:30.329 --> 00:28:33.529
but badass. Oh, you're so sweet. I love it. It's,

00:28:33.529 --> 00:28:37.190
it's definitely been a journey. And I mean, even

00:28:37.190 --> 00:28:40.809
through venturing into the dating world. Oh goodness.

00:28:41.789 --> 00:28:44.930
That's another podcast. Bless everyone's soul.

00:28:45.150 --> 00:28:47.289
But there's something to be said for that. Like

00:28:47.289 --> 00:28:50.369
you become an independent, like I already feel

00:28:50.369 --> 00:28:53.230
like I was independent and I feel like I was

00:28:53.230 --> 00:28:55.670
having to do everything and be consumed by all

00:28:55.670 --> 00:28:58.670
and run. a lot of different things by myself

00:28:58.670 --> 00:29:02.630
and so low that I was becoming this masculine,

00:29:02.829 --> 00:29:08.750
feminine woman. And I have really thrusted myself

00:29:08.750 --> 00:29:11.509
into the more feminine version. I swear I wear

00:29:11.509 --> 00:29:15.829
skirts or dresses every day now. And I just,

00:29:16.049 --> 00:29:18.890
I'm embracing it and loving it. And I think that's

00:29:18.890 --> 00:29:21.170
been something interesting and hard for some

00:29:21.170 --> 00:29:23.190
of the guys that I went out on dates with for

00:29:23.190 --> 00:29:26.599
me to be like. I don't need you, I would want

00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:29.140
you. And there's a complete and utter difference

00:29:29.140 --> 00:29:32.000
between that. If I want you in my life, that's

00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:34.200
something special. And that goes for friendships,

00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:36.559
that goes for anything. And we talked briefly

00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:40.299
about boundaries, but this last year has taught

00:29:40.299 --> 00:29:43.480
me an insane amount of boundaries. I mean, I

00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:46.819
have an amazing girlfriend, Kayla, who has been

00:29:46.819 --> 00:29:50.700
by my side and my rock the entire time. And she

00:29:50.700 --> 00:29:53.980
has also been through her own journey. And there

00:29:53.980 --> 00:29:55.980
was times when I would send her a message and

00:29:55.980 --> 00:29:57.220
be like, Kayla, what do you think of this? And

00:29:57.220 --> 00:29:59.619
she's like, no, why do you need to say that?

00:29:59.779 --> 00:30:01.740
You don't need to say that. That girl has taught

00:30:01.740 --> 00:30:03.900
me so much about boundaries. I think everyone

00:30:03.900 --> 00:30:06.859
needs someone like that in their life. And someone

00:30:06.859 --> 00:30:09.000
who struggles with boundaries, those closest

00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:12.019
to me, I oftentimes like, well, you know, from

00:30:12.019 --> 00:30:14.220
a 30 ,000 foot view, analyze where I could do

00:30:14.220 --> 00:30:16.140
better with boundaries, but also be like, hey,

00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:19.549
you. We all need that friend or to be that friend

00:30:19.549 --> 00:30:22.170
to someone. Sometimes you have to go through

00:30:22.170 --> 00:30:25.109
those experiences and have your boundaries be

00:30:25.109 --> 00:30:28.009
breached in order for you to be like, okay, I

00:30:28.009 --> 00:30:29.710
didn't like that. I didn't like how it felt.

00:30:30.329 --> 00:30:32.509
So I think I needed to do that a little different

00:30:32.509 --> 00:30:35.549
next time. I know so many listeners may be quietly

00:30:35.549 --> 00:30:38.049
walking through something hard right now, holding

00:30:38.049 --> 00:30:40.849
everything together, but unsure of what's next.

00:30:41.450 --> 00:30:43.750
What would you say to them? What advice would

00:30:43.750 --> 00:30:48.140
you give them? Give yourself grace. Mic drop.

00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:52.880
I think that is the hardest in so many different

00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:56.460
phases of our life is literally grace. Giving

00:30:56.460 --> 00:30:59.180
yourself grace and knowing that this too shall

00:30:59.180 --> 00:31:03.299
pass. There is a new season ahead. There is something

00:31:03.299 --> 00:31:06.440
greater on the other side. And if you just be

00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:10.599
patient, everyone always told me in the beginning

00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:15.859
to surrender. Sam, just surrender. just give

00:31:15.859 --> 00:31:19.420
it to God and he will take care of you. And there

00:31:19.420 --> 00:31:24.500
were so many times I'm like, I surrender. I surrender.

00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:29.599
Give it to me. And I truly had not fully surrendered.

00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:31.880
I think as that business owner, as that mom,

00:31:31.980 --> 00:31:34.079
we want to have that grip on it and we want to

00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:36.559
be in control and we feel like we need to take

00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:42.559
care of it. And it truly wasn't until a lot of

00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:46.140
self -reflection, giving myself grace, surrendering,

00:31:46.339 --> 00:31:49.279
and living for the day. Oh my goodness. Don't

00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:51.700
live for yesterday. Yesterday's gone. Yesterday's

00:31:51.700 --> 00:31:54.400
in the history books. You need to live for today.

00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:56.900
And if you're already focused on tomorrow, what

00:31:56.900 --> 00:31:59.039
are you doing to yourself? I agree with that.

00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:02.220
That's a hard, hard thing for me as someone being

00:32:02.220 --> 00:32:04.759
so futuristic, too. Thinking about what you just

00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:07.240
said there. I actually over the last year in

00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.359
a different way went through a little bit of

00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:10.960
a roller coaster on a business journey. And when

00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:13.079
you said, I surrender and give it to God, I got

00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:15.440
the chills again, because that is something.

00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:20.319
Last year made me dig into so many things about

00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:24.240
who I was, what personal things I could do differently

00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:28.079
and take every day for what it's worth. as a

00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:31.500
futuristic thinker, I think so far ahead by nature.

00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:34.640
But it was doing me no good in the season that

00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:37.019
I was in. So going through something, it was

00:32:37.019 --> 00:32:41.299
a tougher year and for different reasons. And

00:32:41.299 --> 00:32:44.500
I just found myself saying, Lindsay, you've got

00:32:44.500 --> 00:32:47.819
to give it to God. You're giving this year absolute

00:32:47.819 --> 00:32:50.640
all. You're doing everything you can, whether

00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:53.589
that's on a personal or professional level. You

00:32:53.589 --> 00:32:56.910
need to just I love that surrender and sometimes

00:32:56.910 --> 00:32:59.150
it's literally just mean like I felt myself go

00:32:59.150 --> 00:33:02.450
Like take a deep breath like shoulders like release

00:33:02.450 --> 00:33:06.569
all the damn anxiety Release it. That's not doing

00:33:06.569 --> 00:33:09.849
me any good Release it and what do you have in

00:33:09.849 --> 00:33:12.309
front of you that a you can control and be that

00:33:12.309 --> 00:33:15.630
you have surrounding yourself with love and Friendship

00:33:15.630 --> 00:33:18.190
and the in the values that matter to you. Yeah,

00:33:18.490 --> 00:33:21.779
and then just being present in the moment is

00:33:21.779 --> 00:33:24.039
what really turned it around for me, which has

00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:26.660
led me to be a much stronger. I've always been

00:33:26.660 --> 00:33:28.640
independent as well, but I've been absolutely

00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:31.700
more confident in what brings me joy, the values

00:33:31.700 --> 00:33:35.160
that I'm gonna hold real strong to. And as a

00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.619
business, the economy at the moment is still

00:33:37.619 --> 00:33:39.859
all over the place, but I just feel stronger.

00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:43.880
And I think that is... The best advice that I

00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:46.400
think we could give is sometimes you hold on

00:33:46.400 --> 00:33:49.220
so tight, you hold on so tight, you have unanswered

00:33:49.220 --> 00:33:51.440
questions. I think you just need to take a step

00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:54.039
back, sit down and breathe and surrender. I think

00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:56.019
once you do that too, you have to realize what

00:33:56.019 --> 00:33:59.160
it teaches your children. I love that. Because

00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:01.799
a lot of times we forget that they're watching

00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:03.859
us. They're watching our every move. They're

00:34:03.859 --> 00:34:06.059
watching how we react, how we respond to things.

00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:10.900
I used to be a very brash, I'll call it, reactor.

00:34:12.030 --> 00:34:15.190
And I feel like I caught myself yesterday at

00:34:15.190 --> 00:34:19.269
a soccer game. There was, bless this mom's, you

00:34:19.269 --> 00:34:21.769
know, a friend sitting next to me. She was like,

00:34:22.130 --> 00:34:24.510
her child was whining, whining, whining, whining.

00:34:24.789 --> 00:34:28.269
And she goes, do you ever get that at home? And

00:34:28.269 --> 00:34:33.730
I was like, no. And I was like, but mine are

00:34:33.730 --> 00:34:37.510
older. And I caught myself being the old Sam

00:34:37.510 --> 00:34:40.550
and being like. Oh, I wouldn't put up with it.

00:34:41.170 --> 00:34:44.429
And then I'm like, no, ground myself, put myself

00:34:44.429 --> 00:34:46.949
back on the ground, because sometimes that is

00:34:46.949 --> 00:34:49.510
also hard to hear. And what does that mean as

00:34:49.510 --> 00:34:51.289
a mom to say, well, I just won't put up with

00:34:51.289 --> 00:34:53.570
it? I used to be so, when I was so much more

00:34:53.570 --> 00:34:55.610
brash, you know, that would have been my response.

00:34:55.849 --> 00:35:00.309
And so now for me to pause, reflect with my kids,

00:35:00.809 --> 00:35:03.630
my son is very much a feeler and more emotionally

00:35:03.630 --> 00:35:07.300
like outward, but he holds it in. And I see a

00:35:07.300 --> 00:35:10.039
lot of how I used to be in him, like holding

00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:12.500
it back, holding it in, suppressing it. And then

00:35:12.500 --> 00:35:15.480
he'd have his like moment in silence. Whereas

00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:19.639
now I just try to embrace my children. Definitely

00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:21.900
learn your kids as love languages. Oh, that's

00:35:21.900 --> 00:35:23.679
good advice. You know, we talk love languages

00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:26.159
as adults, but have you truly thought about your

00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:28.920
child's love language? Because once you look

00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:32.320
at that and how they need to be loved and how

00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:35.300
they need to be communicated with your parenting

00:35:35.300 --> 00:35:38.670
journey. I promise you will be transformed. It

00:35:38.670 --> 00:35:42.670
is insane. So the moment that I step back, I

00:35:42.670 --> 00:35:45.250
give him a moment to decompress, to let that

00:35:45.250 --> 00:35:48.670
rise, come down. And then I embrace him and hug

00:35:48.670 --> 00:35:52.489
him and we get to talk it out. It is a game changer.

00:35:52.590 --> 00:35:55.889
Game changer. So for me to tell that mom like,

00:35:55.889 --> 00:35:59.289
oh, I don't put up with it. I. That's the old

00:35:59.289 --> 00:36:02.289
Sam. Sure. The new Sam is definitely more patient

00:36:02.289 --> 00:36:06.679
and I take a lot of it more with. grace and just

00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:09.760
knowing that if I take their love language into

00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:12.300
consideration, it's a night and day difference

00:36:12.300 --> 00:36:15.880
for parenting. Now, overall, you know, you've

00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:18.139
been in quite the journey over the last year.

00:36:18.420 --> 00:36:20.440
I'm sure you get a lot of questions of people

00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:22.980
asking how you do it all. What is your honest

00:36:22.980 --> 00:36:27.480
response now compared to even before? How do

00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:30.719
you do it all now? One day at a time. There you

00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:33.579
go. One foot in front of the other a year ago.

00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:37.360
One of the girls at the salons who has just been,

00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:40.179
and Leanna has been amazing, literally looked

00:36:40.179 --> 00:36:43.440
at me when all of this happened and said, how

00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:45.719
are you going to do it? And I made a post about

00:36:45.719 --> 00:36:47.840
that as well. And I literally just looked at

00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:50.420
her and said. I'll let you know when I do it.

00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:52.619
And I met that in a totally different context

00:36:52.619 --> 00:36:55.159
for other than what happened today. Managing

00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:58.199
three salons, knowing that all my independents

00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:02.519
are so capable and so fierce and powerful themselves

00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:05.619
and worthy of so much. And then knowing that

00:37:05.619 --> 00:37:08.400
I have my three kids, I'm going to lead by example,

00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:11.219
running the hobby farm, but also just taking

00:37:11.219 --> 00:37:14.039
on what I can take. There are things I might

00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:19.239
not get back to a client today. And if they can't

00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:21.699
grace me for that then I am really sorry I might

00:37:21.699 --> 00:37:25.320
not be your person. I am in a new season and

00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:27.480
there are things that just need a little bit

00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.500
more of my priority than others. Well you definitely

00:37:30.500 --> 00:37:33.340
created something so beautiful and it's not just

00:37:33.340 --> 00:37:36.480
in business but in the life that you're rebuilding.

00:37:37.210 --> 00:37:39.469
What does the next chapter look like for Sam?

00:37:39.650 --> 00:37:41.829
It's so crazy to think of the next chapter because

00:37:41.829 --> 00:37:44.329
I've been living so much in the moment, which

00:37:44.329 --> 00:37:48.050
I thoroughly am enjoying. Yes, it will definitely

00:37:48.050 --> 00:37:51.269
be. I'm in what I'm calling my repair season,

00:37:51.329 --> 00:37:55.070
so it's definitely a repair. There's some things

00:37:55.070 --> 00:37:57.269
that the salons that we're working on repairing,

00:37:57.289 --> 00:38:00.929
you know, just picking up after being absent.

00:38:00.929 --> 00:38:04.449
Sure, I'll call it in the last year and just.

00:38:04.570 --> 00:38:06.510
There's going to be moments of repair working

00:38:06.510 --> 00:38:09.690
through co -parenting and dealing with all of

00:38:09.690 --> 00:38:14.409
that on our new journey as a family. So I'm really

00:38:14.409 --> 00:38:18.030
excited about the future. I've met someone that

00:38:18.030 --> 00:38:20.389
brings a whole new light to my life right now.

00:38:20.650 --> 00:38:23.670
My kids will always be my light and my businesses

00:38:23.670 --> 00:38:27.250
will always come first. But it is so crazy that

00:38:27.250 --> 00:38:30.110
when you are in the depths of it to think of

00:38:30.110 --> 00:38:33.809
someone making you feel. Like you were on cloud

00:38:33.809 --> 00:38:37.030
nine or that like, and you deserve that. Anybody

00:38:37.030 --> 00:38:39.489
deserves that. I would agree. It's just, you

00:38:39.489 --> 00:38:41.789
get so lost in the moment and there are just

00:38:41.789 --> 00:38:45.050
things with this man that I, I feel like I dreamt

00:38:45.050 --> 00:38:47.530
and I was like, I'm going to have a man that

00:38:47.530 --> 00:38:50.590
opens my door and has all the chivalry. And I,

00:38:50.590 --> 00:38:52.550
I went on so many dates and I'm like, this is

00:38:52.550 --> 00:38:55.659
just never going to happen. I'm super excited

00:38:55.659 --> 00:38:58.800
about this new path, whether or not it's just

00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:02.159
for the moment or for longer, who knows, but

00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:04.599
I'm going to thoroughly enjoy it for the time

00:39:04.599 --> 00:39:08.500
being. So my next season is still pouring into

00:39:08.500 --> 00:39:12.000
the kids, continuing to grow the businesses and

00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:14.900
getting them through this repair season and then

00:39:14.900 --> 00:39:19.739
really continuing to find and flourish who I

00:39:19.739 --> 00:39:22.679
am and knowing that I am not going to go back

00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:25.349
to the darkness. There will be seasons of darkness.

00:39:25.570 --> 00:39:27.949
I don't doubt that through the rest of my life.

00:39:28.190 --> 00:39:29.329
You know, I'm going to live for another hundred

00:39:29.329 --> 00:39:35.449
years. But yeah, I think truly continuing to

00:39:35.449 --> 00:39:39.750
embrace who I am and not allowing others and

00:39:39.750 --> 00:39:44.170
their opinions to influence my path and my future.

00:39:44.429 --> 00:39:46.369
You know, this, you might've just answered this,

00:39:46.389 --> 00:39:49.170
but to kind of end this, I want something like

00:39:49.170 --> 00:39:51.150
a strong statement. What are you most proud of

00:39:51.150 --> 00:39:54.639
today? but something that you never imagined

00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:58.619
you'd be able to say out loud prior to today.

00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:01.960
Something you're most proud of. Is it sad to

00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:04.480
say that as a mom, of course, I want to tell

00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:07.760
or say that my kid, I'm so proud of my kids.

00:40:08.340 --> 00:40:12.940
Of course, right? Absolutely. The new Sam is

00:40:12.940 --> 00:40:16.360
going to tell you that I would tell anybody and

00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:19.989
I am so insanely proud of myself. That got me

00:40:19.989 --> 00:40:22.110
choked up and I want to hug you. Oh, you're so

00:40:22.110 --> 00:40:25.730
sweet. The depth that, the Sam that I was, the

00:40:25.730 --> 00:40:29.210
Samantha that I was a year ago and to who I am

00:40:29.210 --> 00:40:32.090
today, I am insanely proud of her and for all

00:40:32.090 --> 00:40:34.769
that I've accomplished and made my way through

00:40:34.769 --> 00:40:38.090
and the darkness and being able to pull myself

00:40:38.090 --> 00:40:40.750
through. There are times in your life that we

00:40:40.750 --> 00:40:43.230
all contemplate maybe never being around, right?

00:40:43.230 --> 00:40:45.409
And I went through a lot of those depths and

00:40:45.409 --> 00:40:48.329
darknesses and yes, my children pulled me through.

00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:51.579
But ultimately at the end of the day, it was

00:40:51.579 --> 00:40:55.159
myself that chose to not live there, to not stay

00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:58.460
there, and to continue to rise and to grow. Samantha,

00:40:58.539 --> 00:41:01.210
thank you for sharing your story so openly. What

00:41:01.210 --> 00:41:04.050
you've built and rebuilt is such a powerful reminder

00:41:04.050 --> 00:41:06.110
to us all that even when life doesn't go the

00:41:06.110 --> 00:41:09.409
way we imagined, sometimes the detour leads us

00:41:09.409 --> 00:41:12.429
right to where we're meant to be. To our listeners,

00:41:12.610 --> 00:41:15.070
here are a few things I hope you carry from today's

00:41:15.070 --> 00:41:17.869
conversation. You don't have to do it all the

00:41:17.869 --> 00:41:20.969
way someone else does. You are wired uniquely

00:41:20.969 --> 00:41:24.269
and your way is enough. Give yourself permission

00:41:24.269 --> 00:41:27.210
to begin again. Starting over doesn't mean you

00:41:27.210 --> 00:41:31.070
failed. It means you're brave. Don't. underestimate

00:41:31.070 --> 00:41:33.769
the power of leading with your heart, even when

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it's heavy. You can find Samantha and Pure Bliss

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on Instagram. What is your Instagram handle?

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Samantha Ann. And give her a follow and let her

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know if any of this resonated with you. As always,

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thank you for tuning in to Leveling Up with Lindsey.

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Until next time, keep growing, keep rising, and

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keep showing up. Thank you for listening. If

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you found this information helpful, please share

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it with a friend. If you're looking for more

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information on the topics we covered, please

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head to the show notes below. And if you wouldn't

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mind leaving a five -star rating and review,

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this would help this mission and our journey

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to get started. Let's make today and every day

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an opportunity to level up. Until next time,

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keep dreaming, keep striving, and keep making

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a difference.
