WEBVTT 00:00:00.170 --> 00:00:02.890 Welcome to Leveling Up with Lindsay, the podcast 00:00:02.890 --> 00:00:04.990 where we dive into leadership, small business, 00:00:05.169 --> 00:00:07.710 and everything in between. I'm Lindsay, your 00:00:07.710 --> 00:00:10.070 host and the proud owner of White Peony Boutique, 00:00:10.150 --> 00:00:13.150 a space created to empower women, build confidence, 00:00:13.269 --> 00:00:15.929 and foster meaningful connections. Whether you're 00:00:15.929 --> 00:00:18.710 an entrepreneur, a mom, a friend, or someone 00:00:18.710 --> 00:00:21.379 just looking for a little inspiration, This is 00:00:21.379 --> 00:00:24.399 your space to feel seen, supported, and inspired. 00:00:24.679 --> 00:00:27.579 Join me as we share stories, strategies, and 00:00:27.579 --> 00:00:30.079 a little bit of life's chaos while navigating 00:00:30.079 --> 00:00:32.640 what it truly means to level up in starting a 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:35.140 business, relationship, and personal growth. 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:38.280 So grab a cup of coffee, get comfy, and let's 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:42.840 level up together. Hi, friends. This is Leveling 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:45.640 Up with Lindsay. Today's episode is incredibly 00:00:45.640 --> 00:00:48.539 special to me because I get to introduce you 00:00:48.539 --> 00:00:52.039 to the woman behind so much of who I am. She's 00:00:52.039 --> 00:00:54.920 not just my biggest supporter. She's truly the 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:57.859 heart of my story. She's my mom. And I can confidently 00:00:57.859 --> 00:01:00.140 say that White Peony Boutique would not even 00:01:00.140 --> 00:01:03.740 exist without her. From my work ethic to my creativity 00:01:03.740 --> 00:01:06.519 to the way I connect with people, so much of 00:01:06.519 --> 00:01:11.640 that came from watching her. hard, and lead with 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:14.739 love. She has this rare magic where she believes 00:01:14.739 --> 00:01:17.560 anything is possible and somehow makes you believe 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:19.980 it too. So today I want to honor the woman who 00:01:19.980 --> 00:01:22.640 helped me build the foundation I stand on. So 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:25.879 mama, welcome. Mama, thank you. Are you tearing 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:27.599 up already? Nope, not going to do it. Not crying. 00:01:28.459 --> 00:01:30.500 Are you crying? We're going to probably. Probably. 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:32.879 You can tell in my voice it will go out. All 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:35.299 right. Well, so for the people who haven't met 00:01:35.299 --> 00:01:38.439 you yet, how would you describe yourself? I would 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:42.640 say that I am the fixer and maker of the family. 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:45.319 I 100 % agree with that. Because if it's broken, 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:47.939 I'm going to fix it. I'm going to sure try. Whether 00:01:47.939 --> 00:01:53.700 it's something physical or if you need help or 00:01:53.700 --> 00:01:56.519 if you're just in a mood, I'm going to try to 00:01:56.519 --> 00:01:59.730 fix it. And then it's the creativity part that 00:01:59.730 --> 00:02:03.609 makes me the maker. The maker. And I think we 00:02:03.609 --> 00:02:05.810 were talking about this before. With the maker 00:02:05.810 --> 00:02:08.930 and the fixer, you're definitely one to, like 00:02:08.930 --> 00:02:11.250 you said, go try to help someone who needs something. 00:02:11.409 --> 00:02:14.449 You said it so well. It made me think of the 00:02:14.449 --> 00:02:17.849 maker and about making someone's day or doing 00:02:17.849 --> 00:02:20.280 these little thoughtful gestures. There's a lot 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:23.120 more to the fixer and the maker than just sewing 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:25.960 a button or fixing stains on a shirt. You've 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:27.340 always been someone who's deeply passionate, 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:29.340 incredibly hardworking. Where do you think that 00:02:29.340 --> 00:02:31.539 drives from? Well, my parents were very hardworking, 00:02:31.580 --> 00:02:35.280 but we were also very poor. So to help change 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:38.340 that narrative, as soon as I could work, you 00:02:38.340 --> 00:02:42.439 know, we did. And it wasn't just one job. It 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:45.479 was multiple. I think in college I had seven 00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:48.370 jobs. It was kind of silly. I was losing more 00:02:48.370 --> 00:02:50.810 money running around than I was making, but we 00:02:50.810 --> 00:02:52.969 peeled it back to three jobs, and then I was 00:02:52.969 --> 00:02:54.770 good. What is something you think that people 00:02:54.770 --> 00:02:57.949 would be surprised to know about you? Nothing. 00:02:58.449 --> 00:03:00.770 I'm pretty open. I'm pretty much an open book. 00:03:01.009 --> 00:03:04.069 I wear my heart on my sleeve, and my eyebrows 00:03:04.069 --> 00:03:07.569 are pretty loud. You know, they're kind of shh. 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:10.120 and things around. You know I just like to do 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:11.800 so many different things and I like to do the 00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:14.360 things that most people don't like to do. The 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:18.879 old handwork and quilting and sewing and baking 00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:21.919 and you know I mean it's just all the things 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:24.000 that are a lost art I really like to try to do. 00:03:24.180 --> 00:03:26.280 I do agree with that. I think you had said at 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:29.740 one point you said that I said this as a little 00:03:29.740 --> 00:03:32.599 girl. You did. I said or the question I asked 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:34.439 I guess. The question you asked was mom how do 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:37.259 you know how to do that? And I went, I don't, 00:03:37.259 --> 00:03:39.240 but I'm going to find out. I'm going to figure 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:41.819 it out. And we always did. And it wasn't always 00:03:41.819 --> 00:03:44.539 perfect, and it was messy. We didn't always get 00:03:44.539 --> 00:03:46.560 it done on the first shot, but we didn't give 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:50.780 up. And there's always a solution. And for people 00:03:50.780 --> 00:03:53.500 to say, no, you can't, I have a problem with 00:03:53.500 --> 00:03:57.039 that. I think no is a convenience word. Sometimes 00:03:57.039 --> 00:03:59.699 you say no to your kids because it's convenient 00:03:59.699 --> 00:04:04.500 for you, and it's not necessary. That was when 00:04:04.500 --> 00:04:07.020 I was young, too. One of my mom's favorite things 00:04:07.020 --> 00:04:09.560 was saying, well, you can't do that. I don't 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:11.939 have a pattern. It's like, oh, but we could make 00:04:11.939 --> 00:04:14.099 a pattern. You definitely have instilled that 00:04:14.099 --> 00:04:16.399 in me. I think one of the funniest things that 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:18.779 you always say that makes me laugh is, ooh, don't 00:04:18.779 --> 00:04:20.500 tell my daughter no. Oh, don't say no. Because 00:04:20.500 --> 00:04:22.800 it's not that I'm going to. If there's a will, 00:04:22.920 --> 00:04:25.740 there's a way. And my mom has definitely instilled 00:04:25.740 --> 00:04:27.720 that in me. I used to get into trouble because. 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:30.620 somebody would say no and it was like oh just 00:04:30.620 --> 00:04:33.879 watch the challenge accepted exactly because 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:36.519 it's like okay well I'll just give me the opportunity 00:04:36.519 --> 00:04:39.519 to prove you completely wrong I love it let's 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:41.839 take it back to like your early career life what 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:43.399 kind of things like tell me a little bit about 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:46.459 your past work because no quite a few different 00:04:46.459 --> 00:04:48.120 places I've been connected or you've introduced 00:04:48.120 --> 00:04:52.120 me to a few I've never been unemployed so I started 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:54.699 when I was babysitting at nine, corner tasseling 00:04:54.699 --> 00:04:58.819 13, McDonald's at 15. I mean, it was just, and 00:04:58.819 --> 00:05:01.720 then when you started adding different jobs that 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:04.199 we could. That had something to do like with 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:06.480 your life. It did. And it depended upon where 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:10.279 I was at and the position that I needed. It was 00:05:10.279 --> 00:05:12.560 almost opportunistic because it was like, I worked 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:15.279 at a bridal shop and I was going to get married, 00:05:15.339 --> 00:05:17.819 you know, so you, you work in that bridal industry. 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:22.610 And I. managed hotels and we owned businesses 00:05:22.610 --> 00:05:26.550 and then when you were little it was too difficult 00:05:26.550 --> 00:05:29.629 to get daycare so well I had an elementary ed 00:05:29.629 --> 00:05:32.449 background so I started a daycare that solved 00:05:32.449 --> 00:05:35.790 that problem and then it was you can't just have 00:05:35.790 --> 00:05:38.329 a daycare I needed to have a curriculum for the 00:05:38.329 --> 00:05:40.389 kiddos to make sure that they were ready for 00:05:40.389 --> 00:05:45.689 school so just all of those things accumulated. 00:05:46.110 --> 00:05:49.720 My mom has been known as Mama Jane since I was 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:52.759 little because Mama Jane's daycare was, that 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:54.339 wasn't the name of it, but she definitely. Nope, 00:05:54.339 --> 00:05:56.519 it was Teddy Bear Junction. Yes, and we have 00:05:56.519 --> 00:05:59.980 people that went to her daycare that still keep 00:05:59.980 --> 00:06:02.019 in contact with my mom. Oh, that's so wonderful. 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:04.680 And all I just love those little buggers. I know, 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:06.480 they're all graduated and everything. They're 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:09.689 having babies. Oh, that's crazy. Because I remember 00:06:09.689 --> 00:06:12.449 babysitting them. Yes. You know, on the weekends 00:06:12.449 --> 00:06:14.689 or whatnot. And remember holding like little 00:06:14.689 --> 00:06:19.649 Olivia. Olivia and Hannah. Yep. Yeah. That's 00:06:19.649 --> 00:06:22.269 so crazy. And so cool. So you've obviously left 00:06:22.269 --> 00:06:25.509 an incredibly lasting impression. Taking it back. 00:06:26.370 --> 00:06:28.769 Was there ever a moment where you thought, yes, 00:06:28.829 --> 00:06:31.089 this is what I'm meant to be doing or maybe the 00:06:31.089 --> 00:06:33.269 opposite where you're like, you know, I meant 00:06:33.269 --> 00:06:35.269 for something different. And when I think of 00:06:35.269 --> 00:06:37.310 that with you, I think a little bit about your 00:06:37.310 --> 00:06:40.310 last career and leading up to where you are right 00:06:40.310 --> 00:06:43.589 now. After daycare, I worked for T -Mobile for 00:06:43.589 --> 00:06:46.910 a long time. And then the position I was in is 00:06:46.910 --> 00:06:49.689 I had moved from a sales to it was kind of inventory 00:06:49.689 --> 00:06:52.730 and merchandising and that kind of thing. And 00:06:52.730 --> 00:06:55.649 that position was. eliminated throughout the 00:06:55.649 --> 00:07:00.310 company so I ended in a kind of a stepping stone 00:07:00.310 --> 00:07:02.769 position with a different company different industry 00:07:02.769 --> 00:07:05.889 and that really wasn't a good fit I mean I loved 00:07:05.889 --> 00:07:08.370 the people it was a wonderful company but it 00:07:08.370 --> 00:07:11.689 was a numbers person and I'm a creative so it's 00:07:11.689 --> 00:07:15.779 like giving someone a paint by number set but 00:07:15.779 --> 00:07:18.500 you're a watercolor person so it's just like 00:07:18.500 --> 00:07:21.500 oh this is okay my hands were tied but it was 00:07:21.500 --> 00:07:23.779 a great stepping stone and then when the opportunity 00:07:23.779 --> 00:07:26.120 came to join White Peony that was a no -brainer. 00:07:26.490 --> 00:07:28.329 And I get to do all kinds of creative things 00:07:28.329 --> 00:07:30.670 there. Well, and I think you nailed it on the 00:07:30.670 --> 00:07:32.509 head. Like when I think of all the things that 00:07:32.509 --> 00:07:36.290 you have done, which are many different pieces, 00:07:36.449 --> 00:07:38.829 you said it perfectly. And it kind of gave me 00:07:38.829 --> 00:07:42.350 chills down my whole body. You said everything 00:07:42.350 --> 00:07:45.569 that I've done leading up to this point has honestly 00:07:45.569 --> 00:07:48.329 contributed here. It's brought me to here. It's 00:07:48.329 --> 00:07:52.370 all accumulative. And I use every piece of it 00:07:52.370 --> 00:07:55.480 now, which is really great. And it just depends 00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:58.240 upon your perspective. There were not any places 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:01.199 that I shouldn't have been. They were all there 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:04.199 for a reason. Every time. And you get those little 00:08:04.199 --> 00:08:06.759 God winks where you're like, God, I don't know 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:09.339 if. And it's like, nope, this is where you're 00:08:09.339 --> 00:08:11.560 supposed to be. I love that. So looking back, 00:08:11.620 --> 00:08:14.240 how did motherhood shift the way you viewed purpose 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:16.699 and your creativity? Because creativity definitely 00:08:16.699 --> 00:08:20.579 is the number one equation, I think, when I think 00:08:20.579 --> 00:08:24.180 of my mom. Motherhood was pivotal. I lost my 00:08:24.180 --> 00:08:27.259 mom and dad when I was in my 20s. You were here 00:08:27.259 --> 00:08:31.699 when I lost my mom, and then Alex was here when 00:08:31.699 --> 00:08:34.039 I lost my dad. It was just really important because 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:38.200 being a parent was the most important job. So 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:43.139 everything after that all was surrounded by to 00:08:43.139 --> 00:08:45.559 be the best parent you could be. Any kind of 00:08:45.559 --> 00:08:49.360 career was then shifted. So I used to manage 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:53.820 at the hotels, and then it was nope. My kids 00:08:53.820 --> 00:08:56.700 aren't going to know who I am. So quit that. 00:08:57.139 --> 00:09:00.399 Opened a daycare. Had my little honeys. So I 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:02.100 had a really big family. So that was pretty cool. 00:09:02.259 --> 00:09:05.379 And then I was going to do that until the kids 00:09:05.379 --> 00:09:08.159 were in kindergarten. And then people started 00:09:08.159 --> 00:09:11.960 planning there. families around my openings that 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:14.379 was weird it's like oh that's not a good idea 00:09:14.379 --> 00:09:17.580 that's not a good idea but we we had a lot of 00:09:17.580 --> 00:09:20.419 fun and it was just really super important to 00:09:20.419 --> 00:09:23.000 be able to be there so when the bullies happened 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:25.419 because everybody's got a bully now and then 00:09:25.419 --> 00:09:30.600 I could be there and try to head it off the bullies 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:34.000 the bullies you know those bullies life everybody 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:36.480 you come across it whether it's a small event 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:40.870 or if it's a real problem But it was really important 00:09:40.870 --> 00:09:42.870 to be able to be there and be part of it all. 00:09:43.649 --> 00:09:46.230 And that never changes. I can't look at you. 00:09:46.269 --> 00:09:49.190 I'm going to, like, baby cry. You said at one 00:09:49.190 --> 00:09:50.669 point you were like, should we face each other? 00:09:50.710 --> 00:09:52.450 I'm thinking, bad idea. Bad idea. Really bad 00:09:52.450 --> 00:09:54.929 idea. Can we be in separate rooms? I'm going 00:09:54.929 --> 00:09:56.990 to go sit in the photo booth. Yeah. Can you send 00:09:56.990 --> 00:09:59.190 her the message and the questions? That'd be 00:09:59.190 --> 00:10:01.710 great. Oh, man. I think we're going to take it 00:10:01.710 --> 00:10:05.090 now to your creativity and service, and then 00:10:05.090 --> 00:10:07.559 we'll bring it back a little bit more. Creativity 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:10.220 is really important. It's like some people say, 00:10:10.299 --> 00:10:12.980 oh, you're so blessed. It's like, no, it's such 00:10:12.980 --> 00:10:16.139 a curse. I sometimes joke about that too. It's 00:10:16.139 --> 00:10:18.299 really true. Because you get yourself all sorts 00:10:18.299 --> 00:10:24.899 of to -dos and adventures. Well, if I get a creative 00:10:24.899 --> 00:10:29.059 idea, I cannot, it gets stuck in my head. And 00:10:29.059 --> 00:10:31.340 I can't do anything about it until I either make 00:10:31.340 --> 00:10:35.200 it. try, fail, doesn't matter, but it has to 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:37.500 be completed or it won't leave. And then I can 00:10:37.500 --> 00:10:40.980 go on to my next wild hair. And then my creativity 00:10:40.980 --> 00:10:44.480 when I'm driving or I'm left alone for five minutes 00:10:44.480 --> 00:10:48.840 or silent, where I actually can think, my creativity 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:52.240 goes rampant. We can tell because then the text 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:55.879 and the Snapchat start about 6 .30 and Tom will 00:10:55.879 --> 00:10:59.850 go, Lindsay's up. Tom is my dad. Yeah, Tom is. 00:10:59.909 --> 00:11:02.850 41 years of putting up with my shenanigans. I 00:11:02.850 --> 00:11:05.870 love that. No, and I will once, I'm like, gosh, 00:11:05.889 --> 00:11:08.950 should we try this? And if I, and my mother -in 00:11:08.950 --> 00:11:11.009 -law even knows this. Anyone around me who truly 00:11:11.009 --> 00:11:15.789 knows me. But if I say, would you ever want to 00:11:15.789 --> 00:11:18.429 run? Put your seatbelt on. Don't run because 00:11:18.429 --> 00:11:20.330 she'll find you. Yeah, you're right. Just put 00:11:20.330 --> 00:11:21.590 your seatbelt on. We're going to do something 00:11:21.590 --> 00:11:22.850 fun. It's going to be a wild ride. It's going 00:11:22.850 --> 00:11:26.220 to be an adventure. That is. Probably something 00:11:26.220 --> 00:11:28.320 I'm most grateful for because truly when you 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:30.879 take away anxiety, you take away the stress of 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:35.080 a day. If I'm in my peace, calming, whatever 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:37.480 that looks like in the day. That's a 30 minute. 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:41.519 My creativity. I love finding a new strategy, 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:44.120 a new solution, coming up with something. She 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:47.299 doesn't sleep. No, I try to sometimes, but not 00:11:47.299 --> 00:11:49.860 really. Puts her out of commission for a minute. 00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:53.039 But I do say, I'm so grateful because not everyone 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:55.360 has the creativity. And then there are times 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:58.059 where I also joke, like you said, and say. It's 00:11:58.059 --> 00:12:00.759 a curse because you can't stop. If I can't do 00:12:00.759 --> 00:12:03.639 something creative within so many days, I get 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:05.460 really crabby and I don't like being crabby. 00:12:05.500 --> 00:12:07.360 That's just, it's like petting a cat the wrong 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:09.700 way. It's just out of my vernacular. I don't 00:12:09.700 --> 00:12:11.679 like it. I don't want to be part of it. So I 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:14.480 got to make something. So creativity did, where 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:16.460 did this stem from as a child? Like, where did 00:12:16.460 --> 00:12:20.200 you get it from? Because I know Tenley has your 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:23.559 creativity in her. Tenley is going to be the 00:12:23.559 --> 00:12:25.379 one to be the sewing. She's already sewing with 00:12:25.379 --> 00:12:27.039 grandma. Somebody's got to do the mending when 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:30.399 I... I'm not here. I'm not. I love all other 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:31.860 things. You will have no buttons on any of your 00:12:31.860 --> 00:12:34.059 clothes. No, I can sew a button. Really? I can 00:12:34.059 --> 00:12:36.539 sew a button. Really? Okay. This is what I tell 00:12:36.539 --> 00:12:39.200 everyone. I will try to make anything, but I 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:43.539 will not sew, and I will not put a flower arrangement 00:12:43.539 --> 00:12:46.039 together. I really am not good at those two things. 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:48.519 No, but she can decorate. Ooh. Yes, that I can 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:52.360 do. Her Christmases. However, Tenly, and I don't 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:54.340 love baking, and I think I don't love baking. 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:56.299 No, but you're a good cook. I love cooking, but 00:12:56.299 --> 00:12:59.259 I think that I've tried your cookies too many 00:12:59.259 --> 00:13:01.299 times and failed because they're just not the 00:13:01.299 --> 00:13:03.200 same. I think everyone can vouch for that with 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:05.720 something. That's my thing. But I used to sell 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:07.980 cookies. Even in high school, there was a little 00:13:07.980 --> 00:13:10.960 convenience store and a liquor store, and I used 00:13:10.960 --> 00:13:13.860 to have a jar of cookies, fresh cookies, every 00:13:13.860 --> 00:13:17.870 day. See? And my mom would be just furious because 00:13:17.870 --> 00:13:20.190 I'd make a ton of money, but I never paid her 00:13:20.190 --> 00:13:22.970 for the ingredients. Oh, that's a turd. That 00:13:22.970 --> 00:13:25.710 also sounds like Tenley, so she 100 % gets it. 00:13:25.710 --> 00:13:26.929 Well, we're going to work on that. We'll get 00:13:26.929 --> 00:13:28.950 that. Oh, yeah, that was terrible. But, yeah, 00:13:29.049 --> 00:13:31.330 the cookies have always been a thing. Yeah, if 00:13:31.330 --> 00:13:34.769 there's anything creativity with you, you've 00:13:34.769 --> 00:13:36.539 got to let it fly. I have to. Because if you 00:13:36.539 --> 00:13:38.580 said you can't, you need creativity. I don't 00:13:38.580 --> 00:13:40.460 have a choice. And even when I had my daycare, 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:42.700 when the kiddos would nap, I would work on the 00:13:42.700 --> 00:13:45.460 project that would be their next gift. Because 00:13:45.460 --> 00:13:47.279 all of their holiday gifts were all homemade. 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:49.620 Yes. Whether it was a bag or a sweatshirt that 00:13:49.620 --> 00:13:52.889 had something embroidered or applique on. And 00:13:52.889 --> 00:13:55.889 they'd have, like, words of affirmation, like, 00:13:56.009 --> 00:13:58.669 you're remarkable. Like, they'd each have a different 00:13:58.669 --> 00:14:01.970 word, remarkable, stupendous. And they were big 00:14:01.970 --> 00:14:04.149 words. And I had this one little boy who came 00:14:04.149 --> 00:14:07.830 from a really, really tough house. I felt so 00:14:07.830 --> 00:14:09.710 bad for him. But he was thriving, and he was 00:14:09.710 --> 00:14:13.529 going to be ready for school. And I made his 00:14:13.529 --> 00:14:19.919 sweatshirt fantastic. And he goes, Mom. Fantastic. 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:23.240 Oh, it's so cool. Seriously, I remember the amount 00:14:23.240 --> 00:14:26.220 of work you put in. Okay, so let's say there 00:14:26.220 --> 00:14:29.299 was 12 kids in the daycare. Oh, yeah. We always 00:14:29.299 --> 00:14:32.220 said between 10 and 15 because I'd get variants. 00:14:32.740 --> 00:14:36.320 Well, yeah. The rules are probably a lot different 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:37.659 than from now. I don't know what they are right 00:14:37.659 --> 00:14:40.809 now. I'll never forget two gifts. The one, the 00:14:40.809 --> 00:14:42.269 sweatshirt that you're talking about. And then 00:14:42.269 --> 00:14:46.149 you made the plastic see -through aprons. The 00:14:46.149 --> 00:14:48.929 painting aprons. They're so cute. And she would 00:14:48.929 --> 00:14:51.090 do things with like their handprints and again, 00:14:51.169 --> 00:14:53.950 personalize them. It wasn't just like a little 00:14:53.950 --> 00:14:57.580 mini gift for Christmas. Yeah, your dad would 00:14:57.580 --> 00:14:59.659 just shake his head and go, oh boy, here she 00:14:59.659 --> 00:15:03.059 goes. It's typical. And now another thing when 00:15:03.059 --> 00:15:05.360 I think of Mama Jane, not only her creativity, 00:15:05.500 --> 00:15:07.960 but absolutely her customer service and how she 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:10.320 makes people feel. So you're also known for your 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:12.720 kindness and incredible customer service. It's 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:14.940 never been about selling for you. It's truly 00:15:14.940 --> 00:15:18.539 about serving. I used to get in trouble for that. 00:15:18.799 --> 00:15:23.039 Really? Yeah, at one of my... One of my jobs, 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:25.320 my customers would wait for me because they knew 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:27.240 I wasn't going to fluff. I was going to tell 00:15:27.240 --> 00:15:28.980 them the truth and do everything I could to help 00:15:28.980 --> 00:15:31.480 them and get them the best deal and give them 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:33.600 the best service. And they would wait for me 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:37.779 literally for hours. And I had a quota. And it 00:15:37.779 --> 00:15:39.720 was really hard for me to make that quota because 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:42.120 I always had a line of people waiting. So, yeah, 00:15:42.259 --> 00:15:44.159 it would get me in a bit of trouble. But it really 00:15:44.159 --> 00:15:47.250 didn't matter because... how the customer feels 00:15:47.250 --> 00:15:51.129 at the end or your friend or that person at the 00:15:51.129 --> 00:15:54.470 gas station it's like Why can't people just be 00:15:54.470 --> 00:15:57.250 nice? Well, and care. And care. That's one thing. 00:15:57.649 --> 00:16:00.049 That's another thing that I took away from you 00:16:00.049 --> 00:16:03.090 is watching her. We would be, and I say, I've 00:16:03.090 --> 00:16:04.710 said this in a couple of speeches that I've given, 00:16:04.769 --> 00:16:07.350 but we would be in a gas station, complete stranger. 00:16:07.850 --> 00:16:09.950 We're checking out, you know, getting snacks 00:16:09.950 --> 00:16:12.110 before a basketball tournament or whatever that 00:16:12.110 --> 00:16:14.710 is. We were famous for our snacks. Our road trip 00:16:14.710 --> 00:16:17.970 adventures. We'd go in and my mom would be the 00:16:17.970 --> 00:16:20.080 most. I mean, it was probably, I don't know, 00:16:20.100 --> 00:16:22.320 6 a .m. Hopefully it wasn't too friendly because 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:24.480 sometimes that really annoys people. But like, 00:16:24.539 --> 00:16:27.799 I feel like as a little girl, I kind of was like, 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:30.799 what mom? Because she would say, thank you, have 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:32.700 a wonderful day. You'd say, do you know them? 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:35.220 Do you know them? Yes. Nope, no friend now. But 00:16:35.220 --> 00:16:36.980 the way they'd say, oh, thank you. And it was 00:16:36.980 --> 00:16:40.919 like, you could definitely, I've seen this. countless 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:44.539 times with my mom and strangers just giving them 00:16:44.539 --> 00:16:47.360 the best gesture asking them how their day was 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:51.100 leaving them completely filled without them even 00:16:51.100 --> 00:16:52.720 knowing that's something they needed but you 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:56.200 can see it in their expression and so when I 00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:59.799 think about you and deeply caring I often am 00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:01.940 like where did that stem from where did you get 00:17:01.940 --> 00:17:05.299 that from I think my mom was the She was the 00:17:05.299 --> 00:17:08.299 people person, people pleaser, always fixing 00:17:08.299 --> 00:17:11.359 things for people. And I ran into an old high 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:13.519 school friend the other day that said, your mom 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:16.039 used to do all of our alterations. She would 00:17:16.039 --> 00:17:18.259 do all of their alterations for their family, 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:20.500 and she would do that for all kinds of people, 00:17:20.619 --> 00:17:24.339 and baking, and sewing. So she was the people 00:17:24.339 --> 00:17:28.640 person that way. Dad was the creative. Mom was 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:32.579 more structured. But yeah, it's just... To be 00:17:32.579 --> 00:17:35.259 kind. I mean, just to take that extra minute, 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:37.980 it fills you up just as much as everybody else. 00:17:38.099 --> 00:17:41.079 I agree. And like looking back at all of your 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:44.019 customer service and creating something that 00:17:44.019 --> 00:17:46.680 made a real impact, is there a certain person 00:17:46.680 --> 00:17:50.619 that you had a interaction with or? Well, just 00:17:50.619 --> 00:17:56.470 recently we had a couple of gals in to the. boutique 00:17:56.470 --> 00:17:59.049 she was just really having a hard day and it's 00:17:59.049 --> 00:18:01.609 sometimes when you try clothes on it's don't 00:18:01.609 --> 00:18:03.910 look at the number it really has nothing to do 00:18:03.910 --> 00:18:05.769 with anything I'd love to cut it all off honestly 00:18:05.769 --> 00:18:09.049 it's so dumb and it's it's how you feel in it 00:18:09.049 --> 00:18:12.710 it's not the number just hold you back so that 00:18:12.710 --> 00:18:15.890 goes back to step outside the box you don't have 00:18:15.890 --> 00:18:19.109 a box you don't need a box just do the right 00:18:19.109 --> 00:18:22.230 thing do how it makes you feel listen to your 00:18:22.230 --> 00:18:25.430 god winks you know Yeah, I agree. When I think 00:18:25.430 --> 00:18:28.089 about the values I lead with every day, connection, 00:18:28.410 --> 00:18:31.829 creativity, integrity, it all comes back to you. 00:18:31.930 --> 00:18:34.130 What are the core values, mom, you tried to instill 00:18:34.130 --> 00:18:36.250 in me growing up? Well, it was really important 00:18:36.250 --> 00:18:39.690 to be nice. You were a tad bit bossy, but that's 00:18:39.690 --> 00:18:42.470 okay. The leadership aspect was deep. It was 00:18:42.470 --> 00:18:45.470 really young, but then like we'd go camping every 00:18:45.470 --> 00:18:47.670 weekend before all the sports started. And whenever 00:18:47.670 --> 00:18:50.230 we'd go camping and whenever you were off to 00:18:50.230 --> 00:18:52.410 play, cause it was, you know, free -range parenting 00:18:52.410 --> 00:18:56.349 back then. So it was, how many friends are you 00:18:56.349 --> 00:18:58.410 going to make today? And I tell you what, you 00:18:58.410 --> 00:19:01.230 made, you would bring all these kids back to 00:19:01.230 --> 00:19:03.990 our camp and go, Mom, and this one, and this 00:19:03.990 --> 00:19:05.089 one, and this one, and this one. This is my new 00:19:05.089 --> 00:19:06.670 friend. And my new friend. And there were always, 00:19:06.750 --> 00:19:09.490 you know, more than one. And then you had ped 00:19:09.490 --> 00:19:11.410 pals. And there was one when you were really 00:19:11.410 --> 00:19:13.589 little. I mean, and to write a letter was... 00:19:13.769 --> 00:19:16.130 really tricky. And you guys kept in touch for 00:19:16.130 --> 00:19:18.750 years. Yeah, we did. I definitely remember that. 00:19:18.849 --> 00:19:21.190 Then when sports started, it was, you know, how 00:19:21.190 --> 00:19:23.369 many new friends did you make on your team? So 00:19:23.369 --> 00:19:26.009 all of those connection parts were really important. 00:19:26.329 --> 00:19:29.569 So you've got kindness, you have your connection, 00:19:29.829 --> 00:19:32.230 hard work. That was really important because, 00:19:32.349 --> 00:19:33.950 you know, when you have restaurants at the state 00:19:33.950 --> 00:19:36.269 fair, it's really great that grandma and grandpa 00:19:36.269 --> 00:19:37.930 wants you to come and work for them, but they 00:19:37.930 --> 00:19:39.369 don't want you to just sit at the counter and 00:19:39.369 --> 00:19:41.369 say hi to everybody. You've got to work. And 00:19:41.369 --> 00:19:43.369 it's a lot of work. You're up at three. the morning 00:19:43.369 --> 00:19:44.990 and you probably don't get to bed till nine o 00:19:44.990 --> 00:19:48.150 'clock at night and or later as you get older 00:19:48.150 --> 00:19:50.910 as you get older you don't care a lot less sleep 00:19:50.910 --> 00:19:53.349 than that right she'd come back with babies in 00:19:53.349 --> 00:19:55.549 her eyes but lots of tips and people would come 00:19:55.549 --> 00:19:58.529 back every year to the state fair to see you 00:19:58.529 --> 00:20:00.809 yeah they were like where's lindsey and she's 00:20:00.809 --> 00:20:03.190 going to be here this year right and these little 00:20:03.190 --> 00:20:07.849 guys that were customers for you know 40 years 00:20:07.849 --> 00:20:12.390 before we were even at the fair or 30 and They 00:20:12.390 --> 00:20:14.789 just loved seeing Lindsay because you made sure 00:20:14.789 --> 00:20:16.609 that they were happy and they got their food, 00:20:16.670 --> 00:20:19.450 but you were always cheerful and you always went 00:20:19.450 --> 00:20:21.720 above. Well, and that's where I get it from you. 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:24.299 Like I think of little Lindsay at the State Fair 00:20:24.299 --> 00:20:27.059 and I kind of observed my grandpa making these 00:20:27.059 --> 00:20:28.900 connections with everybody. Oh, he was great. 00:20:28.940 --> 00:20:30.599 He should have been the ambassador. Literally. 00:20:30.619 --> 00:20:32.839 And then when I think of my mom talking with 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:37.039 anybody. So from watching you and my grandfather 00:20:37.039 --> 00:20:39.680 and my grandma. And Grandma Bev. Yep. She was 00:20:39.680 --> 00:20:43.619 always there. But I learned very quickly that 00:20:43.619 --> 00:20:45.859 just by taking a little lecture with customer 00:20:45.859 --> 00:20:48.119 service, not just bringing food, not just asking 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:49.759 what they want, asking them how their day. was 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:51.559 so far asking them where they're going to go 00:20:51.559 --> 00:20:53.359 to next what's your favorite part of the fair 00:20:53.359 --> 00:20:56.000 and literally as a young girl I started asking 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:59.359 more questions but I realized that connection 00:20:59.359 --> 00:21:03.200 that connection piece was made and these individuals 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:05.880 legitimately did come every year to see me. And 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:08.940 then when I had my second daughter is when I 00:21:08.940 --> 00:21:11.420 kind of took a back seat and my grandma would 00:21:11.420 --> 00:21:13.779 call me almost every day and say, Lindsay, so 00:21:13.779 --> 00:21:15.859 -and -so is asking where you're, you've got to 00:21:15.859 --> 00:21:17.859 come back. They're asking where you are. We need 00:21:17.859 --> 00:21:19.980 you at the fair. Can you work this weekend? And 00:21:19.980 --> 00:21:22.319 she's, well. It's been pretty cool because now 00:21:22.319 --> 00:21:25.039 my kids are at the fair for a little bit and 00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:28.450 they're learning kind of. that customer service 00:21:28.450 --> 00:21:30.269 route. So it's pretty incredible. You know, and 00:21:30.269 --> 00:21:32.369 with the customer service thing, and when you're 00:21:32.369 --> 00:21:34.829 trying to be kind to all these people, every 00:21:34.829 --> 00:21:37.029 once in a while, I mean, those bullies do pop 00:21:37.029 --> 00:21:40.289 up. And then now you've got to stand up for yourself 00:21:40.289 --> 00:21:44.509 and believe in yourself and the integrity and 00:21:44.509 --> 00:21:48.089 never settle. Well, for me, one thing I wrote 00:21:48.089 --> 00:21:50.630 down here, a value that you definitely instilled 00:21:50.630 --> 00:21:53.470 in me is to believe in yourself or self worth, 00:21:53.529 --> 00:21:55.670 self belief, self esteem, you know, and that 00:21:55.670 --> 00:21:58.609 is something I think. everybody battles so it 00:21:58.609 --> 00:22:01.490 has never been perfect for me by any means but 00:22:01.490 --> 00:22:04.470 I think you're speaking to that where you have 00:22:04.470 --> 00:22:07.690 always told me to stand up for myself in a very 00:22:07.690 --> 00:22:11.680 respectful way yes Punching is not an option. 00:22:12.180 --> 00:22:15.119 No, no. It's not suggested. Not an option. No. 00:22:15.140 --> 00:22:17.740 No, honestly. And it's not that I've never been 00:22:17.740 --> 00:22:19.400 one, even to this day. I hate confrontation. 00:22:20.140 --> 00:22:21.640 Yeah, me too. But you have to stand up for yourself. 00:22:21.859 --> 00:22:24.579 I mean, when somebody is calling out your integrity 00:22:24.579 --> 00:22:28.779 or is calling out the way you look in their eyes, 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:32.619 that's just... wrong. When I was, I don't know, 00:22:32.619 --> 00:22:35.119 was it sixth grade? Fifth, sixth. Fifth, sixth 00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:38.079 grade. That was tough. I did. I had a bully that 00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:41.819 would call me fat almost every day or make a 00:22:41.819 --> 00:22:44.740 comment about my size. And you guys at the time, 00:22:44.759 --> 00:22:47.099 I mean, you know, you're fifth and sixth grade 00:22:47.099 --> 00:22:48.859 and it was right before travel basketball and 00:22:48.859 --> 00:22:51.079 looking back and it doesn't even matter. It's 00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:52.920 before you really start to develop. So you've 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:55.079 got your little kid body, you know, you've got 00:22:55.079 --> 00:22:57.000 little cheekers and you got your little tummy, 00:22:57.079 --> 00:23:00.799 but you're a kid and you're busy and Who cares? 00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:04.220 And then she was just, oh, she was something. 00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:08.200 When this bully was being a bully, it was really 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:11.519 important that you stood up to her. At some point, 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:13.720 you had to decide that this is enough. Well, 00:23:13.759 --> 00:23:15.299 and I think in the beginning, you were like, 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:18.799 little Lindsay, ignore her. You know, the one 00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:21.079 thing I did say is I said, take it to the court. 00:23:21.460 --> 00:23:24.430 Yeah. The basketball court. You guys, does she 00:23:24.430 --> 00:23:26.029 play basketball? Maybe she'll take you to the 00:23:26.029 --> 00:23:27.529 court. No, you can talk about it. Yeah, because 00:23:27.529 --> 00:23:30.089 I wasn't ever one to be confrontational or anything 00:23:30.089 --> 00:23:31.650 like that. But she was a different, you were 00:23:31.650 --> 00:23:34.069 a different person on the court. Yeah, I love 00:23:34.069 --> 00:23:37.089 playing basketball. Yep. But no, and then one 00:23:37.089 --> 00:23:40.130 day you literally finally said, Lindsay. Well, 00:23:40.269 --> 00:23:42.430 it was enough is enough because you would come 00:23:42.430 --> 00:23:44.750 home and be so, so sad. It was just devastating. 00:23:44.869 --> 00:23:47.289 And what do you do? I mean, you have to figure 00:23:47.289 --> 00:23:49.660 it out. And one day you came home and you were 00:23:49.660 --> 00:23:52.339 walking a little taller and your head was a little 00:23:52.339 --> 00:23:55.680 higher. And I went, so how'd it go today? And 00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:57.720 she went, I figured it out. And she won't be 00:23:57.720 --> 00:24:00.500 doing that anymore. You just addressed it. And 00:24:00.500 --> 00:24:03.420 it was like, okay. And it wasn't, I know exactly 00:24:03.420 --> 00:24:06.240 what was said. And it wasn't negative. None of 00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:07.980 it was negative and none of it was physical. 00:24:08.019 --> 00:24:09.960 And it was just, you were like, just knock it 00:24:09.960 --> 00:24:13.039 off. And it took care of it. Yeah. But then it 00:24:13.039 --> 00:24:17.990 was an aha moment. So from little Lindy. To sports 00:24:17.990 --> 00:24:20.910 for, you know, at one point I think I thought 00:24:20.910 --> 00:24:23.410 I was going to the WNBA. Actually, I didn't think. 00:24:23.670 --> 00:24:26.869 Yeah, she was. I knew I was going to. They hadn't 00:24:26.869 --> 00:24:28.750 formed it yet, but she was going there. Yeah, 00:24:28.750 --> 00:24:31.710 I'm not that old. Oh, you know what she did? 00:24:31.710 --> 00:24:35.190 They did too have the WNBA. When she was 12, 00:24:35.329 --> 00:24:38.710 she wrote a letter to Nike and Adidas and chewed 00:24:38.710 --> 00:24:41.829 them out. She did. She did. She's like, how do 00:24:41.829 --> 00:24:45.019 you expect? girls, or women to play basketball 00:24:45.019 --> 00:24:48.539 at their highest level when you only make men's 00:24:48.539 --> 00:24:50.940 sports shoes. And there was like two options, 00:24:51.059 --> 00:24:53.079 if that, and they were hideous. And I was like, 00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:55.319 I want basketball shoes. She was a fashion diva 00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:57.220 already. Who knew? I actually didn't put that 00:24:57.220 --> 00:24:59.539 together. I didn't either until just now. Well, 00:24:59.700 --> 00:25:01.759 okay. So that didn't work. They didn't respond. 00:25:02.099 --> 00:25:04.299 Senior year in basketball was really rough for 00:25:04.299 --> 00:25:06.640 me mentally. So there's little rocky moments, 00:25:06.859 --> 00:25:09.579 getting through sports and a mental asset. Psychology. 00:25:09.859 --> 00:25:11.819 Thank goodness for five years of psychology. 00:25:12.140 --> 00:25:14.220 college because I needed it and then I took a 00:25:14.220 --> 00:25:17.900 new role at one point in a previous career and 00:25:17.900 --> 00:25:21.519 honestly I was pretty hated on for a solid month 00:25:21.519 --> 00:25:23.220 I would come home and cry almost every single 00:25:23.220 --> 00:25:26.400 day and I was like maybe it's not worth it maybe 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:27.880 it's not worth it they don't like me they don't 00:25:27.880 --> 00:25:30.960 want me to be in this position and my mom said 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:35.660 everything looking back to every ounce of questioning 00:25:35.660 --> 00:25:39.420 my worth or who I was or having imposter syndrome 00:25:39.420 --> 00:25:41.539 in any way shape or form you have always said 00:25:41.539 --> 00:25:45.240 Lindsay just be you just be you they can help 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:47.200 but love you I mean my goodness they'll figure 00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:49.119 it out they'll feel you always say they'll figure 00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:52.119 out who you really are and you do say they'll 00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:53.900 love you but that might be coming just from that's 00:25:53.900 --> 00:25:56.019 just the mommy thing I can't help it yeah but 00:25:56.019 --> 00:25:58.299 no you really you have to just be yourself not 00:25:58.299 --> 00:26:00.940 everybody's gonna like you and that's okay we've 00:26:00.940 --> 00:26:02.500 taken it back a little bit but I kind of want 00:26:02.500 --> 00:26:07.059 to like let's take it present time what mom does 00:26:07.059 --> 00:26:09.559 success mean to you not in terms of money or 00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:12.900 status but In the way you live and love. Am I 00:26:12.900 --> 00:26:17.039 getting a raise? It depends. It depends upon 00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:21.059 how good this episode goes. This is pressure. 00:26:21.420 --> 00:26:24.420 You know, it's success. It's all perspective. 00:26:25.220 --> 00:26:27.880 Really, if you saw how tiny my house is, you'd 00:26:27.880 --> 00:26:30.420 go, what the heck? And I complain because I've 00:26:30.420 --> 00:26:33.799 been there for 40 years. But, you know, we laugh 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:38.460 every day. I am so fortunate. So I think that's 00:26:38.460 --> 00:26:42.920 success. I had plenty of failings, and I tried 00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:44.680 a new recipe yesterday, and it was horrible. 00:26:44.900 --> 00:26:48.880 That was, oh, wasted. But, no, it's all perspective 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:52.529 and how you. How you look at it. I mean, you 00:26:52.529 --> 00:26:55.029 have a choice. I could be a victim from being 00:26:55.029 --> 00:26:57.869 poor and having a tumultuous, you know, growing 00:26:57.869 --> 00:27:01.730 up. Or I could use that as, man, I have learned 00:27:01.730 --> 00:27:03.789 so many things and I am so much stronger because 00:27:03.789 --> 00:27:07.029 of it. So you have a choice. I didn't know if 00:27:07.029 --> 00:27:08.529 I should go there, but I'm going to go there 00:27:08.529 --> 00:27:13.150 because this is a piece of your story. Oh, I'm 00:27:13.150 --> 00:27:17.690 going to cry now. Oh, here she goes. is 100 % 00:27:17.690 --> 00:27:20.450 contributes to the incredible human you are today 00:27:20.450 --> 00:27:23.589 and how strong you are but when you say you know 00:27:23.589 --> 00:27:26.269 you can be a victim or victor take it back to 00:27:26.269 --> 00:27:29.549 why why did you say that what did you go through 00:27:29.549 --> 00:27:33.589 growing up was pretty pretty tumultuous my father 00:27:33.589 --> 00:27:35.990 was a violent alcoholic that tried to kill my 00:27:35.990 --> 00:27:38.829 mom many times and that's not to make light of 00:27:38.829 --> 00:27:41.829 it because we did get him the help he needed. 00:27:41.950 --> 00:27:44.390 And he did quit drinking when I was in high school, 00:27:44.569 --> 00:27:47.470 went through Project Turnabout, which was a remarkable 00:27:47.470 --> 00:27:51.390 place. And I did a lot of counseling then too, 00:27:51.509 --> 00:27:54.490 which really helped. It took me a lot longer 00:27:54.490 --> 00:27:57.589 to get over it. Well, I don't know if you ever 00:27:57.589 --> 00:28:00.930 really get over it. But it took until recently 00:28:00.930 --> 00:28:03.450 when I could say, okay, this is who I am and 00:28:03.450 --> 00:28:06.789 I'm okay. I could see the difference when he 00:28:06.789 --> 00:28:10.410 drank. And was violent. And when he didn't, he 00:28:10.410 --> 00:28:12.329 was a totally different person. So I could differentiate 00:28:12.329 --> 00:28:14.910 between the two. And I just think of all the 00:28:14.910 --> 00:28:18.849 things that I learned and could see in a different 00:28:18.849 --> 00:28:21.750 light that just made me so much stronger. I had 00:28:21.750 --> 00:28:25.549 a choice. Oh, this is terrible. Oh, what a terrible 00:28:25.549 --> 00:28:28.130 thing to go through. You know, yeah, life is 00:28:28.130 --> 00:28:31.829 tough. And then? But then. When did he get sober? 00:28:32.789 --> 00:28:35.670 Fantastic guy. Totally fantastic guy. And then 00:28:35.670 --> 00:28:38.130 we had a bout with cancer, and then we got over 00:28:38.130 --> 00:28:41.109 that, and then I came back, and I lost my mom 00:28:41.109 --> 00:28:43.750 in the middle of my dad's cancer. So it was all 00:28:43.750 --> 00:28:46.470 just, that was just really a rough, I don't know, 00:28:46.529 --> 00:28:48.470 it was just a really deep time. And you just 00:28:48.470 --> 00:28:50.289 learn. I mean, you have to learn from it and 00:28:50.289 --> 00:28:52.769 be stronger from it, and I think that's why I 00:28:52.769 --> 00:28:57.910 dove into being mom so, so deep. Yeah, I agree. 00:28:58.269 --> 00:29:01.670 So we had lost, well, you were born, so we got 00:29:01.670 --> 00:29:05.640 married in... 84. We had you in 86. Yep. Lost 00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:08.059 my mom in 87. Nobody do the math. We had Alex 00:29:08.059 --> 00:29:11.940 in 88. And we lost my dad in 89. So it was just 00:29:11.940 --> 00:29:15.680 a rough five years. And, you know, I learned 00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:17.839 so much. I just think it really made me a lot 00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:20.380 stronger. I would agree. Made me believe deeper. 00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:23.599 That's probably where that passion stems from. 00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.059 Yeah, I think so. I think so. Because I'm, you 00:29:26.059 --> 00:29:28.319 know. Get me in a bear hug with one of my grandbabies. 00:29:29.980 --> 00:29:32.339 Kind of wrapping everything up here. What advice 00:29:32.339 --> 00:29:33.940 would you give to someone listening who's trying 00:29:33.940 --> 00:29:37.099 to figure out their next step or wondering if 00:29:37.099 --> 00:29:39.519 it's too late to start something new? Well, it's 00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:41.440 never too late. First of all, you need to get 00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:44.140 rid of the box, that stupid box. She talks about 00:29:44.140 --> 00:29:46.200 that a lot. I do. It's because people are like, 00:29:46.259 --> 00:29:48.440 stay inside the box and stay inside the lines 00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:53.210 and stop it. Just get rid of the box. what did 00:29:53.210 --> 00:29:55.029 you really like to do when you were young? What 00:29:55.029 --> 00:29:57.089 was that thing that just really made you so full 00:29:57.089 --> 00:30:00.210 of joy? Why is it too late? If you didn't know 00:30:00.210 --> 00:30:03.009 how old you are when your birthday was, how old 00:30:03.009 --> 00:30:06.470 are you? I don't know. Go for it. Embrace whatever. 00:30:06.910 --> 00:30:10.569 I agree. I also think that as you grow up and 00:30:10.569 --> 00:30:13.109 get a little bit older, the more and more you 00:30:13.109 --> 00:30:16.630 should deep dive into what fuels you and the 00:30:16.630 --> 00:30:19.990 values that you stand strong. You have to keep 00:30:19.990 --> 00:30:22.680 looking at it because when you're a mom, Or a 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:25.859 dad. You get so involved in your children, you 00:30:25.859 --> 00:30:28.980 forget your passions. And pretty soon those little 00:30:28.980 --> 00:30:30.880 honeys are going to be off doing their own thing. 00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:33.960 And then what are you going to do? How are you 00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:36.480 going to get along with each other? What's going 00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:38.640 to fill your cup? Because sometimes the kids 00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:42.140 fly and, you know, they just go. And my mom always 00:30:42.140 --> 00:30:43.880 says, you've got to find a purpose. Everyone 00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:45.559 wants a purpose. Oh, you have to have a purpose. 00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:49.119 Even when you're old. Even my mother -in -law 00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.309 at 91. she has to have a purpose so when she's 00:30:52.309 --> 00:30:56.210 knitting her afghans or helping somebody with 00:30:56.210 --> 00:30:58.529 she's now in assisted living but now you know 00:30:58.529 --> 00:31:01.410 helping someone with a puzzle or you have to 00:31:01.410 --> 00:31:04.250 have purpose or you just lose hope so it's never 00:31:04.250 --> 00:31:07.750 too late Oh, no. Ever? Never. Just ask my brother. 00:31:07.890 --> 00:31:09.789 He's 80 years old. He just bought a sewing machine, 00:31:09.950 --> 00:31:11.549 taught himself how to sew, and made his curtains 00:31:11.549 --> 00:31:13.890 in his house, like a dozen curtains. Because 00:31:13.890 --> 00:31:16.369 somebody said, we can't make those. Really? He 00:31:16.369 --> 00:31:17.990 has some of the same values, that's for sure. 00:31:18.069 --> 00:31:20.289 Yeah, I think that's, his was part of it too, 00:31:20.309 --> 00:31:23.529 that passion. Very much driven. I love this. 00:31:23.569 --> 00:31:25.730 This is good. That was fun. Can you believe we're 00:31:25.730 --> 00:31:28.930 doing this? No. This is so outside of my comfort 00:31:28.930 --> 00:31:31.349 zone. Actually, mine too. And you didn't get 00:31:31.349 --> 00:31:34.410 hives. I didn't. I'm so proud. I know, thanks. 00:31:35.049 --> 00:31:37.730 When she first started doing white peony lives, 00:31:38.009 --> 00:31:41.309 she would go out and I'm trying so hard to be 00:31:41.309 --> 00:31:42.710 quiet in the background, which is impossible 00:31:42.710 --> 00:31:45.829 for me to do. So she would go out and do her 00:31:45.829 --> 00:31:47.789 live and then she'd come back in the back to 00:31:47.789 --> 00:31:51.250 change and we'd repowder her neck and chest because 00:31:51.250 --> 00:31:54.509 she was this thermometer of red going up her 00:31:54.509 --> 00:31:57.490 neck because she was so nervous. As things were 00:31:57.490 --> 00:31:59.470 growing a little bit and I realized more and 00:31:59.470 --> 00:32:01.089 more people were watching and I didn't, you know, 00:32:01.089 --> 00:32:02.789 you don't even think about it, but then I would 00:32:02.789 --> 00:32:05.490 be on the... public or doing something. And so 00:32:05.490 --> 00:32:06.950 I'd be like, Oh, I want, you know, more and more 00:32:06.950 --> 00:32:09.329 people would say, I'd watch this live on, I'd, 00:32:09.329 --> 00:32:10.930 you know, I bought this on there and I'm like, 00:32:11.029 --> 00:32:12.849 Oh wow, it's getting serious. We're getting serious. 00:32:13.410 --> 00:32:15.950 And then it got more nervous, but I still one 00:32:15.950 --> 00:32:18.509 foot in front of the other still did it. Yeah, 00:32:18.589 --> 00:32:20.509 you did really well. And it was crazy because 00:32:20.509 --> 00:32:22.930 when you started and it was in your basement 00:32:22.930 --> 00:32:26.170 and we had before that had, we were doing a craft 00:32:26.170 --> 00:32:28.029 show out of your garage and people were buying 00:32:28.029 --> 00:32:30.049 stuff as fast as we could get them finished. 00:32:30.069 --> 00:32:33.369 That was fun. That was so fun. And then it was 00:32:33.369 --> 00:32:35.289 like, why don't you, she was like, I just love 00:32:35.289 --> 00:32:37.190 to start a boutique. And it's like, well, what 00:32:37.190 --> 00:32:39.609 are you waiting for? Yeah. So you get old. That's 00:32:39.609 --> 00:32:43.890 a great idea. Do it now. Do it now. Just do it. 00:32:43.890 --> 00:32:46.210 Find a way. There's always a way, whether it's 00:32:46.210 --> 00:32:50.730 a smaller version or there's always a way. I 00:32:50.730 --> 00:32:53.069 love that. Well, mom, I could honestly talk to 00:32:53.069 --> 00:32:56.190 you for hours and we often do. And we do. But 00:32:56.190 --> 00:32:58.210 I just want to say thank you for raising me with 00:32:58.210 --> 00:33:00.940 heart. Thank you for showing me that hard work 00:33:00.940 --> 00:33:03.200 and kindness are never wasted. You turned out 00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:05.880 pretty good. Thank you for reminding me every 00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:09.329 day. that anything is possible and you can do 00:33:09.329 --> 00:33:11.869 it when you believe in yourself and the people 00:33:11.869 --> 00:33:13.630 around you and when you hear lindsay say would 00:33:13.630 --> 00:33:16.950 you ever want to run buckle up no don't run she'll 00:33:16.950 --> 00:33:19.210 find you just right okay buckle up you are the 00:33:19.210 --> 00:33:22.309 foundation of so much of my life in business 00:33:22.309 --> 00:33:24.849 and today i hope everyone listening got a glimpse 00:33:24.849 --> 00:33:29.190 into just how lucky i am to call you my mom oh 00:33:29.190 --> 00:33:54.779 that's very sweet Keep dreaming, keep striving, 00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:56.819 and keep making a difference.