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I exposed modern slavery in the garment industry.

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People have come to me from the nearby city saying

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our local representatives won't do anything about

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it, they're all in on it. So we've got thousands

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of people being paid £2 .50, £3 .50 an hour.

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When the minimum wage was £9 .50, they were working

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in sweatshop conditions for the fast fashion

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industry. We've got a great guest today, the...

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Honorable or former Honorable Andrew Bridgen,

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former Member of Parliament who has been through

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the ringer over the years simply for speaking

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his voice, which, you know, last time I checked,

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you're supposed to be allowed to do this in the

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UK, in the United States, for sure. And he's

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here to share his story of his journey of what

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the heck happened and how his life has been transformed.

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Thank you, Andrew. Thank you for joining us.

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We really appreciate having you on our show.

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It's a pleasure, David, and great to have a platform

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to speak from. You know, we've had other politicians

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on our show, and I always ask the same question.

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Why are you drawn to politics? It's such a thankless

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profession. You can't please anybody, or at least

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half the people, or slightly more than half.

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Well, my evidence would show that's not true.

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how did i get into politics um i was a very successful

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businessman um former young executive of the

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year uk when i was young in 2000 um i was chairman

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part -time of the institute of directors for

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the east midlands which is the part of the uk

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where i live um and i was running a couple of

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businesses which i'd started with a thousand

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pounds and built up to 30 million turnover businesses

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employing 300 people. I'm curious what it is.

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I'm a businessman as well. My social circle of

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small and medium -sized business owners, we used

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to go to a pub on a Friday night with our partners,

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and around 2005, everybody's moaning. I'd given

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some money to the Conservative Party to try and

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get rid of the Labour Party out of government.

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And that had not worked. So the Labour Party

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had got back in again. And all my circle of friends

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were moaning every Friday night when we were

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socialising. And it must have been a pint of

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Marston's Pedigree beer too many. And eventually

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I snapped and I said, look, you know, every Friday

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we go through this routine. You know, you're

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all capable people. The local area's in decline.

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The country's in decline. How about if I put

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all the money up, you stand for the local council,

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all of you, I'll stand for MP, we take over,

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and then it's our problem, we'll get it sorted.

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You know, Leila, we talk on the show a lot about

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have had one pint of Marston's Pedigree or something

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too many or a glass of wine too many because

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they all said yes. And so we set about a strategy.

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to take over the local area. And all my friends

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joined the Conservative Party locally, which

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was a moribund association in a seat that the

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socialists had held for a long time. The council

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had always been held by the socialists since

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1983. It was the most deprived. North West Leicestershire

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was the most deprived part of the poorest part

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of the county of Leicestershire. And in 2007,

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We took it with the biggest swing against the

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Labour Party in the country in those local elections.

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One of your buddies or you, yourself? I ran the

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campaign, but I didn't stand for a councillor.

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My then wife did, and she got in, and all my

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friends got in, and we took the Labour Party

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from control since 1983 down to only five councillors

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out of 38 in one night. So we had control of

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the council, and we set about... changing things.

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I got the nomination to be the Conservative candidate

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at the next general election. We didn't know

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when that was going to be. We nearly had a general

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election in 2008, but they bottled it, so we

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went on until 2010. I built a factory in North

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West Leicestershire in 2001, invested £10 million.

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created 300 jobs i've had experience uh with

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the council and the planning department and i

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was bringing all these jobs and this wealth creation

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uh building on a seven acre site um factory and

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you'd have thought i was bringing bubonic plague

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there was some anti -business so i remembered

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all of this and so when we got in there were

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a lot going to be a lot of changes at the local

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authority the local council and and It was so

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corrupt before we took over. I mean, I think

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one of the Labour councillors was known as Mr

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2%. They wanted 2 % of the build cost as a sweetener.

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I mean, it's just ludicrous. So the whole area

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had not developed for years. It was in economic

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stagnation. And it was like fallow ground. It

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didn't take much turning round. And I got in.

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I was very disappointed. I didn't get the biggest

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swing in the country against Labour in the 2010

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general election. I got the second biggest swing.

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And it had been interesting because I had a run

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in with David Cameron, who was the leader of

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the opposition at the time and was going to be

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prime minister after 2010. But he'd come to my

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area and in front of my future constituents had

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told me that I wasn't going to get any money

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from the party. I wouldn't win. Is Cameron a

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conservative? Yeah, supposedly. Supposedly a

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conservative. So just by way of definition, we

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have our socialists, we have our conservatives.

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Is that the same definition, same ideology? It

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is, but confusingly, when I came over to Washington,

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D .C. in 2015, obviously the... The right of

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centre parties are blue in the UK and the left

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of centre parties are red. And that causes a

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bit of confusion. We have rhinos. We have rhinos.

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I guess those are kinos. We have conservatives

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who are actually liberals. I mean, that's what

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they are. Liberal Democrats really in the middle.

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So Cameron, who was leader of the opposition,

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was going to be prime minister if we'd won the

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election. basically told me i wasn't going to

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win he told me that he'd been to northwest leicestershire

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in 2005 in that election campaign with michael

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howard the then leader of the conservatives who

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lost and told me that uh my major conurbation

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which is a the town of coleville which is a gritty

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ex -mining town um he said it was a dump And

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so I told him politely that I was going to win.

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I didn't need his money. I'd got my own. And

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if he felt like that about Northwest Leicestershire,

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the best thing he could do was never come again.

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And he is a man of his word sometimes because

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he never came again. And that was fine. And so

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I won. I won handsomely in 2010. I was never

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in the club. And even I'd been selected as the

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candidate for Northwest Leicestershire. i mean

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not many people wanted to be the conservative

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candidate for northwest lester because it was

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a no hope seat and there was no money uh and

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no association um and i i was actually selected

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by an open primary there were so few conservative

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members locally in the association they decided

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to throw it open to the public and just put coupons

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in the local papers and you could anyone could

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fill in and say which candidate they wanted but

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fortunately 66 of them chose me so that was good

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um and i went down i went down to parliament

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to represent the place that i was basically brought

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up in and represent the people i went to school

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with and where my factory was and where my home

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was which was pretty good so how did it become

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socialist though we did it lean social like how

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did it become a socialist region you know before

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you got took it over well even the the the socialist

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voters in my area They were actually socially

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conservative, if you know what I mean. No, what

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is that? What does that look like? Well, they

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liked the traditional family. They were very

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patriotic. They liked people who'd been in the

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armed forces. They were traditional sort of English

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people, really. But they liked entitlements.

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entitlements? No, I don't think they did. One

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thing that upset David Cameron a lot about me

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as well is because I was a self -made man. I

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mean, I could drive around a working class constituency

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in my Aston Martin or my Range Rover and nobody

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minded because they knew I'd worked for it and

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paid my taxes. Whereas he couldn't because they

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knew he hadn't worked for it, you see. And he

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didn't like that. He didn't like that at all.

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So. I went down to Westminster and, you know,

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I'd hardly been down there, I think twice before

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I was elected. It's quite an experience and got

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sworn in and it's been an awakening. I mean,

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you know, it's just not what you think it is

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and it's not what I thought it was. I remember

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in 2011 saying to Cameron and George Osborne,

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who was the Chancellor of the Exchequer, there's

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supposed to be this... brilliant and of course

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we were in coalition with the liberal democrats

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for the first five years 2010 to 2015 and um

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is a democrat the same as our democrats um we've

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we've got three main parties we've got four now

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but there's normally three main parties you've

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got your right -wing conservatives supposedly

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centrist liberal democrats who actually lean

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to the left and then you've got the uh the far

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left socialists in the Labour Party. That's the

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normal balance of things. That's how it was in

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those first elections. And yeah, I mean, I said

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to David Cameron and George Osborne, you're supposed

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to be these brilliant politicians. And I said,

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you know, we're making things change in North

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West Leicestershire and we don't need politics.

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All we need is policies that make things life

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better for all. the people we're representing

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make them feel more secure more job opportunities

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and a better prospects for the next generation

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i said and everyone's happy and then we we get

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back in again and and we got back in with running

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the council again so that was good through that

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electoral cycle and um and they turned around

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to me and said you don't understand it's it's

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all a game andrew and i don't think i did understand

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in 2011. But I think by 2020, I understood exactly

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what was going on. And quite honestly, David,

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I didn't like it. So we went through various

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election cycles. I always increased my majority.

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I'm a Brexiteer. I'd met a lot of Labour politicians

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through my role with the Institute of Directors

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as well. They were never up to much, put that

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way. I wasn't surprised that the country was

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in a mess. But what I realise now is we actually

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have a uniparty system and our party systems

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are completely corrupted in the UK. So this left

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and right business, it's not about left and right,

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it's about right and wrong. And it's an illusion

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of choice, quite honestly, over here now, as

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it is in most of Europe. I'm getting a little

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deja vu because we had Congressman Dave Brat

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on our show who was also a rookie legislator,

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and he was very surprised that things were not

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as they thought they were going to be when he

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arrived. So you're saying almost exactly the

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same things. How would you summarize the game

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that you learned about upon arrival? You're expected

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to be whipped all the time and told how to vote

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on everything. So, I mean, if you accept that,

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I mean, you might as well send a mannequin down.

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And what I realized is that the game of politics,

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it works by doing what your party wants, what's

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good for your political party. If you do that,

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you can go far, be a minister and whatever. But

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I mean, if you do what's good for your people,

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I mean, that's seen as anathema. And I spoke

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out about something called the Post Office Horizon

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scandal. Not very long after I arrived in Parliament,

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one of my constituents came to me with a conspiracy

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theory about how he and his wife had been criminalised

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running the post office in a small village in

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northwest Leicestershire. that there was a faulty

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computer system which was generating huge losses.

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They got blamed for them. And by listening to

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him, and they were already convicted criminals,

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and I looked at them in that meeting and thought,

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why are you going through all this if it's not

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true? Because it was clearly very harrowing for

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them to even talk about it. And I didn't have

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any power to do much about it. They were convicted.

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And they were having their home repossessed to

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pay the alleged debt that they owed to the post

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office. And they were people with a blemishless

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track record of honesty and suddenly being convicted

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of a massive fraud. And they sounded to me like

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they were telling the truth. So I did a bit of

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investigating. And ultimately, years later. working

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with a few other MPs, we uncovered something

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called the Horizon Post Office scandal. Horizon

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was the name of the software system they were

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forced to use. And it turned out that successive

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governments had covered it up. A thousand people

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in the UK got falsely criminally prosecuted and

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thousands got forced to pay money back they didn't

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owe. And it ended up being a huge scandal. And

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I uncovered all of that. And I... I'd had all

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the evidence 10 years ago, went to all the mainstream

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media, and I'm sure it's the same on Capitol

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Hill. Every news, every major news channel, newspaper

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in the UK has got their best representatives

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are in what we call the lobby. That's the lobby

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of journalists. And I knew lots of them. And

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I went around the mall and I said, you know,

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10 years ago, here's all the evidence. These

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people are all innocent. Biggest miscarriage

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of justice in the UK's history so far. Run the

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story, you'll win an award. And every one of

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them refused to run the story. And then I thought,

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well, something's seriously wrong here. This

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should be on our show. This is a story of cancellation

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with a thousand victims. Absolutely. And if you

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want to look at it, I produced a little... my

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own version of what happened. It's called Storm

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on the Horizon. It's on YouTube, Andrew Bridgen

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YouTube, Storm on the Horizon. You can watch

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that 30 -minute mini documentary. It shows you

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my constituents and what they're saying. And

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I exposed modern slavery in the garment industry

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in the city of Leicester, which isn't in my area,

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but people have come to me from the nearby city

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saying our local representatives won't. won't

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do anything about it. They're all in on it, this

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conspiracy. So we'd got thousands of people being

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paid £2 .50, £3 .50 an hour when the minimum

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wage was £9 .50. They were working in sweatshop

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conditions for the fast fashion industry. Immigrants?

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Say again? Immigrants, mostly? Oh, yes. Oh, yes.

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They were being terribly exploited. And some

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of them were living... you know overcrowded housing

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because i mean your your housing opportunities

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on three pound fifty an hour i mean a lot of

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them i think have been trafficked into the uk

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and they were intent that they were never ever

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going to be able to pay the debt off for their

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traffickers they were going to be slaves for

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the rest of their lives um it was appalling and

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that that's why i exposed that and i exposed

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the government's high -speed rail project called

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hs2 as it's a land grab that there was never

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an intention to. It's been running for 10 years.

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It's cost tens of billions of pounds. They've

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never actually laid any track yet, but they have

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bought a lot of property along the line, very

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cheap off people. And of course, we got round

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to the pandemic and it just happened that my

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degree from Nottingham University, the degree

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I'd read in the 80s, just happen to be in biological

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sciences with biochemistry specializing in genetics,

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virology, and behavior. Before we go deep on

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this topic, I really want this episode to be

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on YouTube. So we have to be really careful about

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what we say because they're very particular about

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how things are presented. They're not quite as

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bad as they used to be. We got a strike against

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us already in our brand new show. well when i

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spoke out about the vaccines in the uk parliament

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youtube actually took my speeches down even though

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they were spoken in parliament with the with

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the government's minister's response they took

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four i think three or four of my speeches down

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when i complained about that on x i think i had

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4 .2 million views and they had to put them back

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up with What I found out, the more I looked at

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what was going on in the pandemic, the less I

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liked it. In 2019, in 2016, I led the East Midlands,

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so this whole region of the UK, in the referendum

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campaign to leave the European Union. And it

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was tremendously successful. It was. You are

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a Brexiteer. I'm a Brexiteer. I'm also a Spartan.

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I voted three times against Theresa May's vassalage

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deal to sell us out to the EU. I was one of the

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Spartans that wouldn't give in. And yeah, I mean,

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you know, we overwhelmingly voted to leave. 61

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% in my area voted to leave the European Union.

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It was 59 across the whole of the East Midlands,

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so it wasn't close up here. We are very Eurosceptic.

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And then, of course, the whole world went crazy

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after that. Our parliament, there was no plan

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for us to vote to leave. That wasn't supposed

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to happen. It's a bit like Trump getting elected

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in 2016. That wasn't supposed to happen either.

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I remember what I was observing from abroad,

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what was happening. It was this big surprise

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that actually the people wanted to exit. And

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by the time we got around to 2019, that was my

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fourth term. And in that seat that David Cameron

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said would never win, there were six candidates

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for that election in December 2019, the snap

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election. I got 63 % of all the votes. And by

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2019... In the second place? Where was second?

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Second place were the Socialists still, but they

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had about 24 % of the votes. Overwhelmingly crushing.

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63 % of all the votes. Yeah. Which is pretty

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close to the 61 % when I got when, you know,

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because all the political parties, they were

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all for Remain. It was an independent Leave campaign.

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So the Conservatives, Labour and the Lib Dems,

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they were for Remain. It was only sort of Mavericks

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that were for Leave and the people went with

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Leave. They didn't go with the establishment,

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you see. So 61%, then up 63 % in the 19 election.

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But the second place was in the 20%. Yeah, yeah.

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My majority was... Crazy. My majority was a lot

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bigger than any votes that anybody else got.

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Yeah. Right? Exactly. So... And what we'd actually

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done locally... In those years from 2007 to 2019,

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so 12 years, we'd moved northwest Leicestershire

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from the poorest area in Leicestershire, where

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there are seven constituencies and three in the

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city, so 10, we'd moved it to the richest in

00:23:06.869 --> 00:23:09.710
12 years through the local government. You should

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have had hats to make Leicestershire great again.

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We'd made northwest Leicestershire great. We

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got the highest economic growth in the country.

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We'd... created loads of new jobs uh so 1 .2

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jobs for every person of working age in the constituency

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so a lot of people have to travel into our area

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to work that keeps that keeps the wages up and

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we then the only part of leicestershire um where

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we'd got above uk average household income and

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because we'd built enough good quality housing

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in the area We kept our house prices at 30 %

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below UK average. So you've got above average

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UK incomes, 30 % lower houses, lower housing

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costs. Well, I discovered very early on, speaking

00:23:59.740 --> 00:24:02.259
to the people, that what they wanted to be happy

00:24:02.259 --> 00:24:05.519
was they wanted to be able to get a good, well

00:24:05.519 --> 00:24:08.819
-paid job locally, be able to buy a house locally,

00:24:08.980 --> 00:24:12.960
pay the bills, pay the mortgage, go out on a

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Friday night. and have you know two weeks holiday

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a year flying out from the airport in in my my

00:24:19.619 --> 00:24:22.160
area i mean they weren't asking for much and

00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:25.299
we delivered it and so i wasn't surprised that

00:24:25.299 --> 00:24:30.039
by 2019 northwest leicestershire was the happiest

00:24:30.039 --> 00:24:34.640
place to live in the midlands um so i mean i've

00:24:35.069 --> 00:24:37.750
That wasn't surprising. Contented people vote

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for the status quo, don't they? So 63%, we'll

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have some more of that. So that was my fourth

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term. And then, of course, six weeks after that,

00:24:48.890 --> 00:24:51.869
the whole world went crazy and we went into this

00:24:51.869 --> 00:24:57.250
COVID pandemic business. So 2019, you're a regional

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hero in a very large way. People love you. Even

00:25:03.940 --> 00:25:06.940
though you were uncovering all kinds of scandals

00:25:06.940 --> 00:25:09.839
and it wasn't seeing the light of day, still,

00:25:10.099 --> 00:25:12.839
you were being super effective, great leadership

00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:15.380
skills. Probably if that were you applied in

00:25:15.380 --> 00:25:17.359
your business career, you applied here, and everything

00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:20.460
was working great. So then we enter March of

00:25:20.460 --> 00:25:25.630
2020, basically. Okay, so at this point, you've

00:25:25.630 --> 00:25:29.309
learned there's a game here, right? You've learned

00:25:29.309 --> 00:25:31.230
there's a game. You don't like it, but you've

00:25:31.230 --> 00:25:33.890
served four terms, and you're very popular, and

00:25:33.890 --> 00:25:35.809
people want to see you continue in your leadership.

00:25:36.750 --> 00:25:41.769
Am I characterizing it well? Yeah, and then the

00:25:41.769 --> 00:25:44.589
world went crazy. So we've got the highest economic

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growth in the country, and during the lockdowns,

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I'm the happiest place to live. in the midlands

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so in a big chunk the happiest place to live

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during the lockdowns the suicide rate in my area

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was higher in a month than we'd normally have

00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:06.200
in a year i got you got a lot of self -employed

00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:07.920
people who weren't getting any support from the

00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:11.519
government they were they were losing their businesses

00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:15.519
Small businesses were locked down. Big businesses,

00:26:15.740 --> 00:26:17.980
international businesses were still functioning.

00:26:18.059 --> 00:26:19.880
They were taking all the markets. So Amazon was

00:26:19.880 --> 00:26:23.880
still open, but all the mom and pop shops shut

00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:27.640
down. There was no PPP money like we had in the

00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:30.539
States. Yeah, there was, but a lot of self -employed

00:26:30.539 --> 00:26:34.000
people didn't qualify. If you'd just gone self

00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:35.440
-employed, you're going to be struggling to get

00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:38.759
any money at all. You had to have records that

00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:42.910
you've made a profit for so many years. self

00:26:42.910 --> 00:26:45.930
-employed like a restaurant owner no sort of

00:26:45.930 --> 00:26:49.089
a man with a van or a painter and decorator or

00:26:49.089 --> 00:26:52.890
a self -employed laborer a thing like that you

00:26:52.890 --> 00:26:57.069
know a bricklayer those sorts of things and they

00:26:57.069 --> 00:27:00.009
were you know lots of people fell through or

00:27:00.009 --> 00:27:02.509
a farm contractor even they fell through that

00:27:02.509 --> 00:27:08.049
they fell between the stools and you know, I

00:27:08.049 --> 00:27:11.250
saw the way it hit my area and we'd got the highest

00:27:11.250 --> 00:27:13.509
economic growth in the country. So, I mean, it

00:27:13.509 --> 00:27:16.670
must have been devastating. And the more I looked

00:27:16.670 --> 00:27:21.390
at the science, it just didn't have nothing added

00:27:21.390 --> 00:27:26.829
up. And when I saw respected scientists and some

00:27:26.829 --> 00:27:30.289
doctors, medical doctors speaking out and raising

00:27:30.289 --> 00:27:33.750
legitimate concerns, about the pandemic response,

00:27:34.130 --> 00:27:36.849
whether that was the masking or the social distancing

00:27:36.849 --> 00:27:43.910
or the jabs. And what the response was that,

00:27:44.009 --> 00:27:47.990
you know, they were just cancelled. And that

00:27:47.990 --> 00:27:50.089
only raised my concerns because that's not the

00:27:50.089 --> 00:27:52.549
way science works. And anyone who ever tells

00:27:52.549 --> 00:27:56.170
you that, you know, the science is settled. I

00:27:56.170 --> 00:27:58.009
mean, that just isn't the way that science works.

00:27:58.049 --> 00:28:00.529
Science is always there to be challenged, improved.

00:28:01.470 --> 00:28:07.430
thesis counter thesis um i mean i know that doctors

00:28:07.430 --> 00:28:09.690
who finish in the uk at medical school after

00:28:09.690 --> 00:28:12.910
five years the last thing they're told is is

00:28:12.910 --> 00:28:15.250
that half of what we've taught you will be proven

00:28:15.250 --> 00:28:17.450
wrong within 10 years so you're going to have

00:28:17.450 --> 00:28:21.309
to keep an open mind and be retrained well that

00:28:21.309 --> 00:28:26.089
isn't settled science is it ever so my concerns

00:28:26.089 --> 00:28:38.000
were raised and when we got around to I got the

00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:40.440
impression that we've been locked down for Christmas

00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:44.079
2020. I got the impression that we were going

00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:46.019
to get locked down again and I knew the effect

00:28:46.019 --> 00:28:50.779
it was having on my people and my area. I was

00:28:50.779 --> 00:28:52.640
monitoring what was going on in South Africa

00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:55.220
with the Omicron variant and I was speaking to

00:28:55.220 --> 00:28:58.960
some South African scientists and doctors and

00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:04.759
it was clear that the COVID virus had attenuated,

00:29:04.980 --> 00:29:08.480
which is normal for a virus to become less lethal

00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:13.319
and more transmissible. I think the original

00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:18.160
Wuhan strain of COVID -19 had a transmission

00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:21.839
rate, an R -rate, they call it, an R -rate of

00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:24.799
three, i .e. everyone who caught the original

00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:28.799
strain on average gave it to three people. And

00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:30.880
we knew that lockdowns couldn't stop the spread.

00:29:31.900 --> 00:29:36.559
Well, the Omicron variant, the South Africans

00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:41.180
told me it got an R8 of 12, but it was far less

00:29:41.180 --> 00:29:44.259
lethal than the original strain, which is normal

00:29:44.259 --> 00:29:47.119
what happens. A third of all common colds are

00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:49.200
coronaviruses, and they're just a snivel, aren't

00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:51.859
they? They've attenuated to their highly contagious,

00:29:52.140 --> 00:29:57.099
but not very harmful. And that's what I believe

00:29:57.099 --> 00:30:00.839
was going on. And I raised this with the government,

00:30:00.980 --> 00:30:04.839
but it was pretty clear they wanted another lockdown

00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:07.279
for the Christmas. And that would have been devastating.

00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:10.420
We came out of the first lot of lockdowns with

00:30:10.420 --> 00:30:14.359
a million under 25s in the UK on a waiting list

00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:16.579
for mental health support. That's what it did

00:30:16.579 --> 00:30:22.140
to mental health in the UK. I mean, especially

00:30:22.140 --> 00:30:25.089
small children. you know a couple of years of

00:30:25.089 --> 00:30:29.109
lockdown is a huge proportion of their life you

00:30:29.109 --> 00:30:32.190
know if you're four it's it's it's a big chunk

00:30:32.190 --> 00:30:35.710
of your life if you're 50 or 60 it's not such

00:30:35.710 --> 00:30:38.990
a big chunk of your life so the effect was overwhelming

00:30:38.990 --> 00:30:42.349
and the schools were shut uh it had thrown everything

00:30:42.349 --> 00:30:45.579
out and A lot of the people in London were living

00:30:45.579 --> 00:30:48.000
pretty good lives. I mean, even the media people

00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:50.119
I was speaking to, they liked working from home.

00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:52.279
You know, they got a big house with a garden.

00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:54.980
If you were living in overcrowded accommodation

00:30:54.980 --> 00:31:00.480
with no garden in a flat with three or four children

00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.059
and only one computer to try and do some schoolwork

00:31:03.059 --> 00:31:07.509
on, that was not a good time for anybody. You

00:31:07.509 --> 00:31:09.490
may not know this. My wife and I have a school.

00:31:09.529 --> 00:31:11.710
One of the things that we have is a school, Settner

00:31:11.710 --> 00:31:16.150
Academy. And my wife, God bless her, has a great

00:31:16.150 --> 00:31:18.569
bullshit detector. Sounds like you do as well.

00:31:18.730 --> 00:31:21.730
And so we knew very, very early on this is not

00:31:21.730 --> 00:31:25.839
right. And so we took a stance against. all the

00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:28.000
policies with the social distancing and the and

00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:29.799
the mass requirements and the and certainly the

00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:32.019
vaccinations and there was a leak to the media

00:31:32.019 --> 00:31:35.259
and we had global media outcry literally the

00:31:35.259 --> 00:31:37.240
media was camping outside of our school for a

00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:40.539
week that's why you were cancelled council what

00:31:40.539 --> 00:31:42.940
do you mean by counselled i'm cancelled was that

00:31:42.940 --> 00:31:45.930
why you were cancelled Oh, cancelled. Yes, that

00:31:45.930 --> 00:31:49.250
was our first round of cancellation. We've had

00:31:49.250 --> 00:31:52.049
another one that's related, and we've had three

00:31:52.049 --> 00:31:56.009
cancellation attempts, as I like to say. You've

00:31:56.009 --> 00:32:01.269
got a medal with two bars on it. Pretty much.

00:32:01.450 --> 00:32:09.730
And thicker skin. Well, in December 21... So

00:32:09.730 --> 00:32:12.250
I got the impression, I got this feeling that

00:32:12.250 --> 00:32:14.630
the government was setting to using, they were

00:32:14.630 --> 00:32:17.150
ramping up this Omicron's highly transmissible

00:32:17.150 --> 00:32:19.269
and we'll have to have more. This is what the

00:32:19.269 --> 00:32:21.410
rhetoric they were using. So I got the impression

00:32:21.410 --> 00:32:23.250
they were going to try and lock us down again.

00:32:23.289 --> 00:32:26.450
And mysteriously, we're in Parliament in December

00:32:26.450 --> 00:32:31.970
21. Boris Johnson's the prime minister. And I

00:32:31.970 --> 00:32:35.130
got an invite to go to a party at number 10.

00:32:36.990 --> 00:32:39.230
And I wrote back to Number 10 and said, look,

00:32:39.269 --> 00:32:42.789
thank you for the invite for the party, but I've

00:32:42.789 --> 00:32:44.690
got the impression that you're going to try and

00:32:44.690 --> 00:32:46.269
lock... Just for our audience, that was at 10

00:32:46.269 --> 00:32:50.670
Downing Street? 10 Downing Street, yes. The Prime

00:32:50.670 --> 00:32:54.410
Minister's flat is and the office is. Number

00:32:54.410 --> 00:32:56.910
11 is the Chancellor of the Exchequer. The whole

00:32:56.910 --> 00:32:59.250
of Downing Street, Number 9, 10 and 11, they're

00:32:59.250 --> 00:33:01.869
actually one building. Most of its offices, there

00:33:01.869 --> 00:33:04.329
are two flats in there, one for the Chancellor.

00:33:04.779 --> 00:33:06.740
and one for the prime minister and some quite

00:33:06.740 --> 00:33:09.680
nice gardens at the back back onto horse guards

00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:14.579
parade um and and i said oh yeah it's nice to

00:33:14.579 --> 00:33:16.400
be invited to a party and obviously they were

00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:19.660
inviting lots of mps to these social events i

00:33:19.660 --> 00:33:22.079
said but given that you know i got an impression

00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:23.839
you're probably going to try and take away the

00:33:23.839 --> 00:33:26.960
freedoms of my constituents again this christmas

00:33:26.960 --> 00:33:30.940
if it's that serious we shouldn't be having any

00:33:30.940 --> 00:33:34.450
social events risking spreading this dangerous

00:33:34.450 --> 00:33:37.390
virus and I'm you know I pointed out that you

00:33:37.390 --> 00:33:40.150
know if Omicron's got a you know the original

00:33:40.150 --> 00:33:43.349
strain had an R8 of 3 this has got Omicron's

00:33:43.349 --> 00:33:45.630
probably got 12 you couldn't stop the spread

00:33:45.630 --> 00:33:48.109
of 3 I mean what sort of lockdown measures would

00:33:48.109 --> 00:33:50.470
you need to restrict a virus that was four times

00:33:50.470 --> 00:33:52.869
more transmissible than the one you couldn't

00:33:52.869 --> 00:33:55.829
lock down before I mean it's just unbearable

00:33:55.829 --> 00:33:59.369
and and it completely ineffective and and unnecessary

00:34:00.619 --> 00:34:02.640
So I said no. And then the week after, I got

00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:04.980
another invite. The second week in December,

00:34:05.059 --> 00:34:07.759
I got another invite to a party at Downing Street.

00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:09.980
By this time, the government had announced they

00:34:09.980 --> 00:34:12.599
were looking at lockdown measures again. And

00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:14.880
I said, no, it's absolutely inappropriate. I

00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:16.599
didn't come last week. I'm not coming this week.

00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:20.440
I'm more than happy to have a business meeting,

00:34:20.699 --> 00:34:23.380
policy meeting with the prime minister, but I'm

00:34:23.380 --> 00:34:25.119
not coming for a social event. You're going to

00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:27.780
take away the liberties of my constituents. I'm

00:34:27.780 --> 00:34:29.280
going to speak against it. I'm going to vote

00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:32.260
against it. And so I'm not coming for a social

00:34:32.260 --> 00:34:34.599
event. And then the week after that, something

00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:37.260
called the Partygate scandal broke, which turned

00:34:37.260 --> 00:34:41.760
out that those six hundreds of civil servants

00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:45.960
and advisers who work in Downing Street, they

00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.420
hadn't been social distancing or masking all

00:34:49.420 --> 00:34:51.239
the way through the pandemic. In fact, they've

00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:54.280
been having drinking parties and they've been

00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:57.480
socialising, going out with a trolley bag to

00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.719
the local off licence, bringing back. alcohol

00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:03.280
so people couldn't see it and then having parties

00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:06.860
and and these people had got access to all the

00:35:06.860 --> 00:35:09.760
latest scientific information and obviously you

00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:11.539
know they weren't worried about killing granny

00:35:11.539 --> 00:35:16.219
or transmitting this virus and and and i got

00:35:16.219 --> 00:35:19.659
to a civil servant who and they're not all bad

00:35:19.659 --> 00:35:23.420
and and he was working in number 10 and he'd

00:35:23.420 --> 00:35:25.900
actually written an email during the lockdowns

00:35:26.190 --> 00:35:29.150
to his supervisor saying don't you think since

00:35:29.150 --> 00:35:31.789
we've inflicted all these measures on the country

00:35:31.789 --> 00:35:34.030
that we ought to be socially distancing and masking

00:35:34.030 --> 00:35:39.610
while we're in the building and his his boss

00:35:39.610 --> 00:35:41.829
wrote back to him saying well we've checked it

00:35:41.829 --> 00:35:43.590
out with the scientists and none of it actually

00:35:43.590 --> 00:35:46.849
works and i had the scientific background and

00:35:46.849 --> 00:35:49.530
i because i understood the papers i was speaking

00:35:49.530 --> 00:35:52.980
with doctors and scientists who've been cancelled

00:35:52.980 --> 00:35:55.500
because they were doing this research and trying

00:35:55.500 --> 00:35:59.539
to publish these papers in the uk and publicize

00:35:59.539 --> 00:36:01.719
the fact that there were questions about the

00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:06.920
safety and efficacy of the vaccines and um and

00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:09.940
i'm not politically naive i knew the establishment

00:36:09.940 --> 00:36:13.280
would have a big kickback at me uh for speaking

00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:17.360
out so i went around parliament to colleagues

00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:20.800
i've known for 12 years to get them to support

00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:24.860
me, to stop the vaccine being put into authorized

00:36:24.860 --> 00:36:29.760
for infants unnecessarily. And it would have

00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:32.139
killed thousands of them, tens of thousands.

00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:38.000
And then, say again. How much of this is America's

00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:41.739
fault? The tentacles of the CDC and the FDA?

00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:47.179
Well, in 2022, when I went to see Ron Johnson,

00:36:47.420 --> 00:36:52.340
we knew then. that DARPA and the American DoD

00:36:52.340 --> 00:36:55.199
had created both the virus and the vaccines,

00:36:55.460 --> 00:36:58.699
and that they were both bioweapons. And we agreed

00:36:58.699 --> 00:37:01.099
that neither of us would call them bioweapons

00:37:01.099 --> 00:37:03.139
for six months because the public just couldn't

00:37:03.139 --> 00:37:05.599
cope with it. That's what we agreed, and we knew

00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:11.039
that. So this is not an escape from a Wuhan laboratory?

00:37:11.699 --> 00:37:16.539
It was created in Chapel Hill. I've heard this

00:37:16.539 --> 00:37:20.800
too. It was shipped out to Wuhan via Winnipeg,

00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:24.199
and that was where it was finished. It was slightly

00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:29.000
modified at the end and released. Yeah. I've

00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:32.679
heard this. We knew that years ago. We weren't

00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:35.800
ready for it, and my parliament would never be

00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:40.500
ready for it. In terms of policies of mandatory...

00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:43.099
vaccinations and all that how much of that extends

00:37:43.099 --> 00:37:46.280
all the way back to you know the cdc and the

00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:48.920
decisions that they make and the fda and so on

00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:52.320
there's like the whole world the whole other

00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:54.659
developed world was in lockstep i mean our our

00:37:54.659 --> 00:37:57.480
government doesn't matter who's in power i mean

00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:01.199
over decades they'd created a pandemic response

00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:06.239
policy on the risk register and just like every

00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:08.539
other government in the world that policy was

00:38:08.539 --> 00:38:11.480
looked at thrown in the bin and everybody went

00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:15.159
with the world health organizations mandates

00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:21.260
masking social distancing lockdowns and and mrna

00:38:21.260 --> 00:38:24.920
gene therapies and the whole world went crazy

00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:27.340
at the same time so many times the world's in

00:38:27.340 --> 00:38:30.320
lockstep going in the wrong direction it just

00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:32.199
leads you to think there must be a guiding hand

00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:37.340
behind all of this so so in november 2022 when

00:38:37.340 --> 00:38:41.719
i find out what Our regulators are up to trying

00:38:41.719 --> 00:38:46.500
to authorize these jabs for infants. I went around

00:38:46.500 --> 00:38:51.579
colleagues and I was shocked. Some of them agreed

00:38:51.579 --> 00:38:53.539
with me when I went through the science with

00:38:53.539 --> 00:38:55.159
them. Some of them agreed with me that these

00:38:55.159 --> 00:39:00.440
vaccines were harmful. One of them told me that

00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:06.090
he'd had two Pfizer jabs. Gone to the gym. had

00:39:06.090 --> 00:39:08.630
terrible chest pains, gone to hospital, had an

00:39:08.630 --> 00:39:11.170
ECG, and they told him he'd had two heart attacks.

00:39:11.409 --> 00:39:13.710
And if he wasn't as fit as he was, he'd be dead.

00:39:14.289 --> 00:39:16.530
And I thought, well, you're bound to help me.

00:39:16.909 --> 00:39:18.750
And he said, no, I'm not speaking about her.

00:39:20.070 --> 00:39:22.949
Another one came to me and said that her sister

00:39:22.949 --> 00:39:31.530
had taken a Moderna booster and was now paralysed

00:39:31.530 --> 00:39:34.210
from the neck down. And I said, I'm really sorry

00:39:34.210 --> 00:39:36.050
about that. But obviously, you're going to speak

00:39:36.050 --> 00:39:38.090
out now. You've got to speak out. You know it's

00:39:38.090 --> 00:39:40.190
the truth. She said, you're right about the vaccines.

00:39:40.869 --> 00:39:44.309
And I said, well, then you'll speak out. You've

00:39:44.309 --> 00:39:45.929
got to. You've got to speak out. You've got a

00:39:45.929 --> 00:39:49.170
duty, you know. And she said, well, it's my sister.

00:39:49.769 --> 00:39:52.630
And she's a nurse. And they coerced her into

00:39:52.630 --> 00:39:56.260
taking the booster. And now she's at the mercy

00:39:56.260 --> 00:39:58.519
of the NHS because she's paralysed from the neck

00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:01.000
down. And she said, and you know what the health

00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:03.420
service in the UK is like with whistleblowers?

00:40:04.219 --> 00:40:07.360
I can't speak out. And so she never spoke out.

00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:11.179
I had the wives of MPs coming to see me who told

00:40:11.179 --> 00:40:14.420
me that their husbands, she told them not to

00:40:14.420 --> 00:40:16.440
have any more and they'd had the booster and

00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:19.639
now he's got a heart condition. So there were

00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:23.820
lots of MPs who were harmed. Lots of MPs who

00:40:23.820 --> 00:40:27.190
were harmed. but nobody would speak. So that

00:40:27.190 --> 00:40:29.250
just made me more determined. So I stood up on

00:40:29.250 --> 00:40:32.530
my own on the 13th of December and my life changed.

00:40:32.730 --> 00:40:35.030
I stood up in the chamber. I'd got a debate on

00:40:35.030 --> 00:40:38.730
the safety and efficacy of the vaccines, told

00:40:38.730 --> 00:40:40.949
the government they should not be authorising

00:40:40.949 --> 00:40:43.230
them for small children and we should suspend

00:40:43.230 --> 00:40:47.929
them and have an investigation. And my life changed.

00:40:47.989 --> 00:40:50.010
From that moment, I was cancelled from the mainstream

00:40:50.010 --> 00:40:53.469
media. I was normally on television three or

00:40:53.469 --> 00:40:55.579
four times a week. quoted in the newspapers.

00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:58.980
That all stopped. I had one last interview with

00:40:58.980 --> 00:41:04.480
the BBC and they said to me, why are you willing

00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:08.059
to sacrifice your political career on the hill

00:41:08.059 --> 00:41:11.360
of vaccine harms? And I said, well, what career?

00:41:11.579 --> 00:41:14.000
And what does that matter? We're talking about

00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:16.780
people's lives here. And eventually I said, well,

00:41:16.860 --> 00:41:19.239
why am I willing to sacrifice my career on the

00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:21.340
hill of vaccine harms? Because that's the hill

00:41:21.340 --> 00:41:27.739
they're killing my people on. So you lost, your

00:41:27.739 --> 00:41:32.079
marriage broke up. Did you lose any friends and

00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:35.260
family as well along the way? Oh yes, from the

00:41:35.260 --> 00:41:38.340
moment I spoke out about the vaccines, I was

00:41:38.340 --> 00:41:44.639
basically ostracized. So for the last 20 months

00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:47.760
I was an MP, I had to eat all my meals on my

00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:51.380
own in the House of Commons. So any other workplace,

00:41:51.420 --> 00:41:53.539
it would be seen as bullying and intimidation,

00:41:53.579 --> 00:41:56.349
wouldn't it? And when I went to stand up in the

00:41:56.349 --> 00:42:00.610
chamber to speak, they just heckled me. Cackled.

00:42:01.309 --> 00:42:04.849
And eventually when I got my debates, and it

00:42:04.849 --> 00:42:07.469
took ages to get the debates on excess deaths

00:42:07.469 --> 00:42:10.309
and everything like that, then they all just

00:42:10.309 --> 00:42:12.570
walked out of the chamber. But the public gallery

00:42:12.570 --> 00:42:15.949
was always full. And you can play a clip where

00:42:15.949 --> 00:42:19.349
the public are cheering. And there's nobody in

00:42:19.349 --> 00:42:20.949
the chamber except for me and the people who

00:42:20.949 --> 00:42:23.369
have to be there, like the speaker and the responding

00:42:23.369 --> 00:42:26.909
minister and a Labour frontbencher. The whole

00:42:26.909 --> 00:42:29.690
chamber is empty. The public gallery is full.

00:42:29.769 --> 00:42:31.550
And even through the bulletproof glass, for the

00:42:31.550 --> 00:42:34.409
first time in history, you can hear the public

00:42:34.409 --> 00:42:36.989
roar when I tell them that they've got to stop.

00:42:37.210 --> 00:42:39.949
They've got to suspend the use of all the mRNA

00:42:39.949 --> 00:42:42.829
technology in humans and animals. That's never

00:42:42.829 --> 00:42:45.710
been heard of before in the UK Parliament. And

00:42:45.710 --> 00:42:47.570
they didn't like it. They threatened to throw

00:42:47.570 --> 00:42:50.489
the public out and close the public gallery down

00:42:50.489 --> 00:42:53.449
if they didn't stop clapping. That's surreal.

00:42:54.130 --> 00:42:58.730
It was surreal. And it took, you know, and they

00:42:58.730 --> 00:43:02.210
threw me out of the Conservative Party for speaking

00:43:02.210 --> 00:43:07.070
out on the vaccines. So that isolated me further.

00:43:07.510 --> 00:43:11.349
Everybody turned against you. Yeah, even my staff

00:43:11.349 --> 00:43:13.889
in Parliament who'd been with me for years turned

00:43:13.889 --> 00:43:17.079
against me. Well, half of them did. it was a

00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:23.820
big test so i got four members of staff one in

00:43:23.820 --> 00:43:27.940
parliament three three in the constituency uh

00:43:27.940 --> 00:43:30.280
two men and two women the two men were full -time

00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:32.619
and of course when i was out of the conservative

00:43:32.619 --> 00:43:34.400
party they were all members of the conservative

00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:37.760
party and i said look you know this is you've

00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:39.719
got to either come with me or stay with the conservative

00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:43.179
party they are now the enemy uh and i'm going

00:43:43.179 --> 00:43:45.920
to be attacking them and i can't have you having

00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:48.500
split loyalty so just make your mind up either

00:43:48.500 --> 00:43:52.360
stay with me or leave and the two men left and

00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:54.239
i said look you're the full two full -time guys

00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:56.440
you've seen all this evidence come in about the

00:43:56.440 --> 00:43:58.280
vaccine you know it you know everything i've

00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:01.480
said is the truth why are you leaving me and

00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:04.380
they said we've also seen the way the party has

00:44:04.380 --> 00:44:10.500
uh what they've done to your reputation and your

00:44:10.500 --> 00:44:14.309
finances and we don't want it done to us. So

00:44:14.309 --> 00:44:16.070
I said, and one of them had been with me for

00:44:16.070 --> 00:44:20.690
17 years, and I said, but you've got a wife and

00:44:20.690 --> 00:44:23.510
children now. I said, so what you're saying to

00:44:23.510 --> 00:44:26.329
me is, you don't mind me going over the top to

00:44:26.329 --> 00:44:28.090
protect your wife and children, but you're not

00:44:28.090 --> 00:44:31.030
going to come with me? Because there was no answer

00:44:31.030 --> 00:44:32.829
to that, and I never spoke to them ever again.

00:44:33.150 --> 00:44:35.289
The two ladies who worked for me were part -time.

00:44:35.449 --> 00:44:37.530
I made them up to full -time. They stayed with

00:44:37.530 --> 00:44:41.159
me, and I really admire their courage. of staying

00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:43.780
with me. Did anybody come back to you? I mean,

00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:46.739
we've learned a lot since that time. Well, it's

00:44:46.739 --> 00:44:48.539
interesting. When I was thrown out of the Conservative

00:44:48.539 --> 00:44:52.760
Party, you know, and we have sayings in our parliament,

00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:56.320
you know, if you want a friend in politics, get

00:44:56.320 --> 00:45:01.079
yourself a dog. Yeah? Yeah. Well, I mean, I thought

00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:04.440
I had friends. None of them were willing to stand

00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:09.530
with me. When I was thrown out of the Conservative

00:45:09.530 --> 00:45:14.949
Party, not one of my colleagues, who I'd worked

00:45:14.949 --> 00:45:17.150
with for 12 years and thought were my friends,

00:45:17.250 --> 00:45:20.710
nobody contacted me. But I did get a phone call

00:45:20.710 --> 00:45:24.909
on my mobile, unsolicited, from a US presidential

00:45:24.909 --> 00:45:27.550
candidate called Robert Kennedy Jr. at the time.

00:45:27.750 --> 00:45:30.170
And he said it was disgraceful what had been

00:45:30.170 --> 00:45:32.230
done. And he said, I'll help you where I can.

00:45:32.670 --> 00:45:34.929
We're good friends with Bobby, by the way. My

00:45:34.929 --> 00:45:37.579
wife and I were... board members of Children's

00:45:37.579 --> 00:45:40.079
Health Defence, and we were very, very close.

00:45:40.139 --> 00:45:42.440
I've spoken at a lot of events all over Europe

00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:47.320
for CHD. What was interesting as well is my final

00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:50.800
warning, my final warning was with the Grandi

00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:52.780
of the Conservative Party before I was expelled.

00:45:53.500 --> 00:45:56.679
And I gave him an hour and a half of my time

00:45:56.679 --> 00:45:59.079
in his office. I explained everything. What's

00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:03.340
a Grandi? Somebody you've seen as a very, very

00:46:03.340 --> 00:46:07.130
senior member of the party. a very well -established

00:46:07.130 --> 00:46:10.530
MP with a good reputation. And I thought he was

00:46:10.530 --> 00:46:14.150
a friend. I'd spoken in his area. He'd spoken

00:46:14.150 --> 00:46:16.849
in my area. I'd met his wife, met his children.

00:46:17.250 --> 00:46:19.250
And I thought, you know, he's the sort of guy

00:46:19.250 --> 00:46:22.210
who will understand that he's got the courage

00:46:22.210 --> 00:46:24.050
to... Anyway, I gave him an hour and a half.

00:46:24.090 --> 00:46:25.849
I already knew as well that his sister had had

00:46:25.849 --> 00:46:27.750
to go into hospital after the second Pfizer.

00:46:27.909 --> 00:46:30.409
He didn't know I knew all this. I knew his constituents

00:46:30.409 --> 00:46:32.730
had been to him and explained everything, their

00:46:32.730 --> 00:46:35.519
concerns about the vaccines. i talked about the

00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:40.500
vaccines i talked about the way that i believe

00:46:40.500 --> 00:46:43.280
that vulnerable elderly in hospital have been

00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:46.659
euthanized with midazolam and morphine it would

00:46:46.659 --> 00:46:49.360
have been remdesivir in the in the us and other

00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:55.800
places um to create the first wave um and the

00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:58.840
science behind that i mean i don't know if you

00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:04.460
you know that i mean the average between diagnosis

00:47:04.460 --> 00:47:10.099
with covid 19 and death the average time was

00:47:10.099 --> 00:47:16.699
18 .3 days in the uk a viral infection burns

00:47:16.699 --> 00:47:19.079
out after seven days none of those people died

00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:23.260
of covid they died of bacterial pneumonia because

00:47:23.260 --> 00:47:25.599
they weren't treated with antibiotics they were

00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:30.570
either put on a ventilator If they were considered

00:47:30.570 --> 00:47:33.030
healthy enough, in which case 85 % died because

00:47:33.030 --> 00:47:35.989
they over -ventilated them and blew their lungs

00:47:35.989 --> 00:47:37.769
out, which then they get bacterial pneumonia,

00:47:38.130 --> 00:47:41.530
or if they were considered to have COVID and

00:47:41.530 --> 00:47:45.829
they weren't well enough to go on a ventilator,

00:47:45.829 --> 00:47:51.030
they were given end -of -life drugs, midazolam

00:47:51.030 --> 00:47:54.150
and morphine, which are respiratory suppressants.

00:47:54.289 --> 00:47:57.030
And why would you ever give someone you thought

00:47:57.030 --> 00:47:59.909
had a respiratory illness? a respiratory suppressant

00:47:59.909 --> 00:48:02.650
but of course they didn't really have necessarily

00:48:02.650 --> 00:48:05.250
have covid but they would have died with covid

00:48:05.250 --> 00:48:08.090
like symptoms from the midazolam and morphine

00:48:08.090 --> 00:48:11.409
and huge amounts of that were used and lots of

00:48:11.409 --> 00:48:13.610
studies have come out now that there was no correlation

00:48:13.610 --> 00:48:17.150
between the the deaths in the first wave and

00:48:17.150 --> 00:48:20.469
covid but there was a massive correlation between

00:48:20.469 --> 00:48:23.469
the prescription of midazolam and morphine surprisingly

00:48:23.469 --> 00:48:25.570
which had killed them and i went through all

00:48:25.570 --> 00:48:28.440
this with the grandee in his office And he listened

00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:29.920
for an hour and a half, and at the end I said,

00:48:29.940 --> 00:48:32.960
well, will you help me to stop this madness?

00:48:33.900 --> 00:48:36.039
And he just turned around to me, and these are

00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:38.239
his words, and they stuck in my mind. He said,

00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:42.179
Andrew, this is in January 2023. He said, Andrew,

00:48:42.219 --> 00:48:44.400
there is currently no political appetite for

00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:47.320
your views on the vaccines. There may well be

00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:49.360
in 20 years' time, and you're probably going

00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:52.179
to be proven right then. But in the meantime,

00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:54.260
you need to bear in mind that you're taking on

00:48:54.260 --> 00:48:56.639
the most powerful vested interest in the world.

00:48:57.389 --> 00:48:59.650
with all the personal risk for you which that

00:48:59.650 --> 00:49:03.489
will entail should you pursue it and at that

00:49:03.489 --> 00:49:07.809
point i just said well i guess um this meeting's

00:49:07.809 --> 00:49:09.730
over and i'm out of here and i just walked out

00:49:09.730 --> 00:49:12.710
and that was it i was out of the party done and

00:49:12.710 --> 00:49:16.150
standing as an independent in the chamber and

00:49:16.150 --> 00:49:20.909
politically and we got a lot of excess deaths

00:49:21.550 --> 00:49:24.909
post -pandemic 2023 we're getting two and a half

00:49:24.909 --> 00:49:27.690
thousand fifteen hundred one week two and a half

00:49:27.690 --> 00:49:29.969
thousand nearly three thousand excess deaths

00:49:29.969 --> 00:49:33.929
well after a pandemic you should have a period

00:49:33.929 --> 00:49:36.469
of less than excess deaths because obviously

00:49:36.469 --> 00:49:39.130
if your vulnerable elderly have passed early

00:49:39.130 --> 00:49:42.230
in a pandemic and they might have lived six months

00:49:42.230 --> 00:49:46.190
or twelve months longer six months and twelve

00:49:46.190 --> 00:49:48.650
months on from the pandemic you should have less

00:49:48.650 --> 00:49:51.159
people dying than you expected because They've

00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:53.880
already gone, sadly. And we weren't having that.

00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:56.840
After the vaccine rollout, we just had more and

00:49:56.840 --> 00:50:00.039
more excess deaths. And I tried to get a debate

00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:02.820
in our parliament about excess deaths and why

00:50:02.820 --> 00:50:04.760
this is happening. And we're getting the figures

00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:09.260
and they're all terrible. And when we were going

00:50:09.260 --> 00:50:11.260
to have this less than excess deaths, it wasn't

00:50:11.260 --> 00:50:16.280
coming. So you're still a member of parliament.

00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:18.880
You're just kicked out of your political affiliation.

00:50:19.019 --> 00:50:21.659
Yeah, I'm still standing until the next election.

00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:26.159
And so I'm still putting my questions in. And

00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:28.699
in the UK parliament, you can put in for a debate

00:50:28.699 --> 00:50:31.900
on any sitting week. And I put in every week

00:50:31.900 --> 00:50:34.280
for a debate on excess deaths, which is something

00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:36.300
that's happening across the whole country. It's

00:50:36.300 --> 00:50:37.800
affecting the whole country. Nobody wants to

00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:40.900
talk about it. except for me and i keep raising

00:50:40.900 --> 00:50:44.599
it and asking the speaker for a debate and every

00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:47.119
week comes back on the computer unsuccessful

00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:53.260
in ballot i had 26 attempts to get a debate 26

00:50:53.260 --> 00:50:57.179
weeks and you can't put in during uh during recess

00:50:57.179 --> 00:50:59.860
weeks when when parliament's not sitting so that

00:50:59.860 --> 00:51:02.739
was nine months of every week asking for a debate

00:51:02.739 --> 00:51:05.139
on excess deaths and i wasn't getting it and

00:51:05.139 --> 00:51:09.340
that summer of 23 I started doing some research

00:51:09.340 --> 00:51:11.900
and thought big pharma must have done this before.

00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:15.059
And we had something called the thalidomide scandal

00:51:15.059 --> 00:51:18.820
in, yeah, which you were spared most of that

00:51:18.820 --> 00:51:24.019
in America, but Europe, South America, Australasia.

00:51:24.780 --> 00:51:28.199
And I did a lot of research on this and it was

00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:31.469
shocking. So what I found out is. and i made

00:51:31.469 --> 00:51:33.789
a that's another little youtube video that your

00:51:33.789 --> 00:51:36.369
viewers could watch it's called some andrew bridgen

00:51:36.369 --> 00:51:41.369
youtube on my channel and it's called um thalidomide

00:51:41.369 --> 00:51:45.909
the real story it's only a 20 odd minute little

00:51:45.909 --> 00:51:49.050
documentary now what i found out was that thalidomide

00:51:49.050 --> 00:51:52.789
was created by a a drug company in germany called

00:51:52.789 --> 00:51:56.309
chemigrunathal they came they were formed at

00:51:56.309 --> 00:51:59.409
the end of the second world war And they recruited

00:51:59.409 --> 00:52:03.110
their scientists from the Nazi scientists. And

00:52:03.110 --> 00:52:05.210
their head scientist was a guy called Heinrich

00:52:05.210 --> 00:52:08.849
Mulcher, who'd been indicted for war crimes in

00:52:08.849 --> 00:52:12.550
Poland and never convicted. He created thalidomide.

00:52:12.610 --> 00:52:17.030
It was basically an anti -nausea drug, which

00:52:17.030 --> 00:52:20.150
was then prescribed to pregnant women for morning

00:52:20.150 --> 00:52:24.659
sickness. that when it was, before it was marketed,

00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:28.900
it was given to, Grunethal gave it out for free

00:52:28.900 --> 00:52:33.000
to their staff. And one of their workers' wives

00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:36.019
gave birth to a baby without any ears, but they

00:52:36.019 --> 00:52:38.340
didn't say anything. They pushed it out onto

00:52:38.340 --> 00:52:42.199
the market. And what we found out later was that

00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:47.159
it crossed the blood placenta barrier to the

00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:53.670
unborn fetus. And it appears that thalidomide

00:52:53.670 --> 00:52:56.050
prevented something called angiogenesis, which

00:52:56.050 --> 00:52:59.190
is the formation of blood vessels. And the marketing

00:52:59.190 --> 00:53:03.409
ploy of Grunethal with thalidomide was that you

00:53:03.409 --> 00:53:06.150
couldn't overdose on it, so you could take as

00:53:06.150 --> 00:53:09.949
much as you wanted. And obviously, the amount

00:53:09.949 --> 00:53:12.750
of thalidomide that was taken by the pregnant

00:53:12.750 --> 00:53:17.190
woman and the late stage of gestation of the

00:53:17.190 --> 00:53:20.230
baby at the time, that was the level of injury.

00:53:21.130 --> 00:53:24.550
40 % of all the babies died anyway, and 60 %

00:53:24.550 --> 00:53:28.590
were born with horrendous life -changing deformities,

00:53:28.710 --> 00:53:32.329
mostly very short arms and legs, because obviously

00:53:32.329 --> 00:53:34.469
they couldn't form blood vessels to form those

00:53:34.469 --> 00:53:38.849
limbs. The drug was removed from the market in

00:53:38.849 --> 00:53:44.670
1961. What I found out from it is that it was

00:53:44.670 --> 00:53:47.510
1972 before the word thalidomide was allowed

00:53:47.510 --> 00:53:49.690
to be mentioned in the House of Commons in a

00:53:49.690 --> 00:53:54.170
debate. 11 years. And also that Grunethal had

00:53:54.170 --> 00:53:57.409
an injunction against the Times newspaper to

00:53:57.409 --> 00:54:00.630
stop them running stories about the harms that

00:54:00.630 --> 00:54:04.050
this drug had done. And that was overturned in

00:54:04.050 --> 00:54:07.010
the European Court in Strasbourg. And three judges

00:54:07.010 --> 00:54:13.349
in the judgment said that debate on thalidomide

00:54:13.349 --> 00:54:15.929
had been suppressed for 11 years in the House

00:54:15.929 --> 00:54:20.199
of Commons. and I saw this judgment and it was

00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:23.559
from the 1970s and I made this documentary and

00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:26.179
at the end of that summer recess in 2023 I sent

00:54:26.179 --> 00:54:28.300
it to the speaker of the house of commons who'd

00:54:28.300 --> 00:54:30.699
been refusing my debates on excess deaths for

00:54:30.699 --> 00:54:35.039
nine months and his name's Lindsay Hoyle and

00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:38.719
I sent it to him with a note and a message saying

00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:40.880
we don't want history to repeat itself what you

00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:43.159
can see here is that that was suppressed for

00:54:43.159 --> 00:54:45.730
11 years before there was a debate so there was

00:54:45.730 --> 00:54:48.690
no compensation set up and grunethal got out

00:54:48.690 --> 00:54:52.050
of it by initially by setting up only a three

00:54:52.050 --> 00:54:54.949
million pound compensation fund for all the victims

00:54:54.949 --> 00:54:58.789
there were tens of thousands of victims and more

00:54:58.789 --> 00:55:01.150
than that of people who lost their baby altogether

00:55:01.150 --> 00:55:04.550
um i think there's three thousand left in the

00:55:04.550 --> 00:55:07.929
uk now who would be approaching retirement now

00:55:07.929 --> 00:55:12.360
and And Gronothal had made more money out of

00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:14.159
thalidomide than they ever gave in compensation

00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:17.039
for a drug that really had harmed everybody around

00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:19.639
the world. You had a lucky escape in America

00:55:19.639 --> 00:55:24.139
from that. It was absolutely appalling. And mysteriously,

00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:26.519
three weeks after I sent that documentary to

00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:28.699
the speaker with the note saying we don't want

00:55:28.699 --> 00:55:30.920
history to repeat itself because the speakers

00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:36.300
were badly marked out in that judge's judgment,

00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:39.960
he found me a debate. on, I think it was the

00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:44.159
26th of October, 23rd of October. And I think

00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:46.219
that was the first debate on excess deaths, which

00:55:46.219 --> 00:55:48.619
were happening everywhere in the world where

00:55:48.619 --> 00:55:51.119
the vaccines had been rolled out in any quantity.

00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:54.420
I think that was the first debate in any parliament.

00:55:55.139 --> 00:55:57.760
And that was, again, that was another one where

00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:01.360
everybody walked out on me, but the public gallery

00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:04.300
was rammed. And there were so many people turned

00:56:04.300 --> 00:56:06.139
up to parliament to listen to that speech live.

00:56:07.099 --> 00:56:09.300
There were hundreds of people who couldn't get

00:56:09.300 --> 00:56:10.980
into the public gallery, and I had to go out

00:56:10.980 --> 00:56:13.219
into Parliament Square and give the speech again

00:56:13.219 --> 00:56:15.000
to the people who hadn't been able to hear it

00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:18.699
live. I see a little pattern with the thalidomide

00:56:18.699 --> 00:56:21.760
and the six -month vaccination recommendation

00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:25.719
with the children. Clearly, children have a...

00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:28.079
Oh, by the way, there are more than you think.

00:56:28.260 --> 00:56:31.119
So Grunethal got out of prosecution that they

00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:33.659
were given immunity from prosecution for setting

00:56:33.659 --> 00:56:37.059
up a £3 million compensation fund. And also,

00:56:37.099 --> 00:56:40.099
guess what the marketing slogan of thalidomide

00:56:40.099 --> 00:56:43.880
was? It's safe and effective. It was safe and

00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:49.619
effective. And after thalidomide, no big pharma

00:56:49.619 --> 00:56:52.239
company is allowed to make the claim safe and

00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:55.500
effective without caveats. But if you think back,

00:56:56.340 --> 00:56:58.619
it wasn't big pharma that said it was safe and

00:56:58.619 --> 00:57:02.059
effective. It was the politicians. And the medical

00:57:02.059 --> 00:57:04.880
experts, they were the marketing arm for Big

00:57:04.880 --> 00:57:07.500
Pharma, making claims which it would have been

00:57:07.500 --> 00:57:10.639
illegal for Big Pharma to make because that was

00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:15.039
all sorted out with thalidomide. So I see a pattern

00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:18.000
with the thalidomide and the six -month vaccination

00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:20.780
recommendation with children. So clearly children

00:57:20.780 --> 00:57:24.360
have a soft spot in your heart and you have a

00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:28.179
huge heart. What happened as a child that...

00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:32.139
that has created the man that we see today that

00:57:32.139 --> 00:57:35.920
cares so much for young people are you able to

00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:39.880
share well that's that's deeply personal but

00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:43.000
i didn't have a happy childhood so um yeah i

00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:46.000
don't like anybody being cruel to children um

00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:50.119
it really gets to me and yeah ultimately looking

00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:52.179
back now it did cost me my political career but

00:57:52.179 --> 00:57:54.920
i'll tell you one thing the government in the

00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:57.900
uk never dared extend that vaccine down to those

00:57:57.900 --> 00:58:00.719
influence Not after that speech. And they said

00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:02.199
it was all rubbish. They didn't believe any of

00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:07.940
it. But it's all on the record. And they couldn't.

00:58:07.940 --> 00:58:10.880
They couldn't. And I gave lots of speeches and

00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:14.219
updated the House, asked lots of questions, which

00:58:14.219 --> 00:58:19.300
they hated me going into the chamber. I used

00:58:19.300 --> 00:58:21.739
to get catcalls from other MPs. I said I was

00:58:21.739 --> 00:58:24.699
completely ostracised by my colleagues, who I

00:58:24.699 --> 00:58:28.179
thought were some of my friends. But what...

00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:30.719
got me through was there are about 4 000 real

00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:33.099
people who work in our parliament in the uk they're

00:58:33.099 --> 00:58:35.519
the cooks and the cleaners and the security guards

00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:39.579
and the clerks and they were so nice to me and

00:58:39.579 --> 00:58:41.920
the number of nights i'd walk out of parliament

00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:45.820
and there'd be a cleaner mopping the corridor

00:58:45.820 --> 00:58:50.079
with her trolley often a big black lady who i've

00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:52.280
never met before and she'd look up and down the

00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:54.699
corridor see there's no one about and she'd pounce

00:58:54.699 --> 00:58:56.280
on me put her arms around me and so we're all

00:58:56.280 --> 00:59:01.550
praying for you keep going It was unbelievable.

00:59:01.929 --> 00:59:03.949
The staff could only do it when there was no

00:59:03.949 --> 00:59:05.630
one else about because they would have got sacked

00:59:05.630 --> 00:59:09.369
for that, for showing political bias. But when

00:59:09.369 --> 00:59:12.050
we were on our own, they were so grateful for

00:59:12.050 --> 00:59:14.329
someone standing up and telling the truth. So

00:59:14.329 --> 00:59:16.650
you ran again at one point as an independent,

00:59:16.949 --> 00:59:19.989
as I understand it, and you didn't do particularly

00:59:19.989 --> 00:59:22.550
well. Why? What happened? If people were cheering

00:59:22.550 --> 00:59:26.489
for you from the bleachers, why was that not

00:59:26.489 --> 00:59:30.280
reflected in the... I'm afraid to say that the

00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:33.960
ballot in northwest Leicestershire in July 2024

00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:36.300
was rigged. And that's not just sour grapes.

00:59:37.059 --> 00:59:40.599
I got it. I got 63 percent of all the votes in

00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:44.199
2019. My vote had gone up every single election.

00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:47.960
I'd led the leave campaign, I say, for the referendum

00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:50.920
where all the major parties were for remain and

00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:54.840
that people voted with me to leave. And we left.

00:59:57.739 --> 01:00:02.000
I started smelling a rat about a year after I'm

01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:04.719
an independent. And I told them I'm standing

01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:08.559
again as an independent. They put a lot of pressure

01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:12.179
on me not to stand. I was offered a financial

01:00:12.179 --> 01:00:16.139
incentive not to stand. And I said, no, I'm standing.

01:00:17.460 --> 01:00:22.320
And a year out from the election, as it turned

01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:27.420
out, the whole of the local... Northwest Leicester

01:00:27.420 --> 01:00:31.559
District Council's Elections Department, they

01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:33.920
all resigned on a Friday and were replaced by

01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:35.840
a whole new team. That just doesn't happen in

01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:39.159
local government. Everybody's gone. The whole

01:00:39.159 --> 01:00:46.260
team, gone. Resigned. Yes, resigned. And I didn't

01:00:46.260 --> 01:00:49.659
even hear about the planned resignation as the

01:00:49.659 --> 01:00:53.199
MP. I had just heard that they'd all been replaced

01:00:53.199 --> 01:00:56.059
on a Friday. and i rang the chief exec and she

01:00:56.059 --> 01:00:58.880
was new as well uh who she would be the returning

01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:00.960
officer at the local at the general election

01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:03.679
eventually and i said allison i rang her up and

01:01:03.679 --> 01:01:06.139
said what's going on i've just heard the whole

01:01:06.139 --> 01:01:09.880
of the elections department's gone and she said

01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:12.579
cryptically she said to me andrew it was the

01:01:12.579 --> 01:01:15.019
right time for them to move on it's the right

01:01:15.019 --> 01:01:17.099
time for them i don't think it's going to be

01:01:17.099 --> 01:01:19.260
the right time for me for them to all move on

01:01:19.260 --> 01:01:24.619
and During the election, I had more volunteers

01:01:24.619 --> 01:01:27.059
and put more leaflets out, and my recognition

01:01:27.059 --> 01:01:30.559
on the doorstep would be 95 % by name, on site.

01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:36.380
On site, I know this. Absolutely. They either

01:01:36.380 --> 01:01:39.440
call me Andrew or Mr. Bridgen. If they call me

01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:40.940
Mr. Bridgen, I have to ask them whether they're

01:01:40.940 --> 01:01:49.719
going to vote for me or not. I'd been the MP

01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:55.110
for 14 years. uh you know four terms um we transformed

01:01:55.110 --> 01:01:58.269
the area and okay i wasn't in the conservative

01:01:58.269 --> 01:02:00.389
party anymore but i was still confident i could

01:02:00.389 --> 01:02:03.130
win i wasn't going to get 63 i thought i was

01:02:03.130 --> 01:02:06.510
going to win it with about 35 it was a four horse

01:02:06.510 --> 01:02:09.690
four horse race it was going to be a very split

01:02:09.690 --> 01:02:15.110
vote but i'd be all right and i i went to the

01:02:15.110 --> 01:02:19.030
count It was at our new £26 million sports and

01:02:19.030 --> 01:02:20.909
leisure centre because that's what we'd invested

01:02:20.909 --> 01:02:24.710
for the people. So it was a new place, but it

01:02:24.710 --> 01:02:27.750
was right on the bypass. We'd had boundary changes.

01:02:27.750 --> 01:02:29.809
My seat had got a little bit smaller because

01:02:29.809 --> 01:02:32.309
of all the economic growth and the housing growth.

01:02:32.530 --> 01:02:35.409
My seat was too big. I got too many voters, so

01:02:35.409 --> 01:02:37.710
I had to give some up. So my seat had gone down

01:02:37.710 --> 01:02:41.969
from about 120 square miles to about 100 square

01:02:41.969 --> 01:02:45.260
miles. okay but i hadn't gained anywhere that

01:02:45.260 --> 01:02:47.639
wasn't already voted i mean most of my people

01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:50.300
there had already voted including the referendums

01:02:50.300 --> 01:02:53.519
they voted seven times for me most of my people

01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:56.519
have voted seven times for me um they knew me

01:02:56.519 --> 01:03:01.559
and um at the count when we arrived it's got

01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:03.840
this massive new car park outside the front of

01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:08.599
it um and uh in the in the gymnasium for that

01:03:08.599 --> 01:03:10.139
sports and leisure center that's where the count

01:03:10.139 --> 01:03:13.539
would happen got into the car park and there's

01:03:13.539 --> 01:03:16.400
barely enough they've got a big chunk of it a

01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:18.619
third of it was combed off with security guards

01:03:18.619 --> 01:03:20.639
which is unusual and i said you know what's going

01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:22.460
on here there's barely enough parking spaces

01:03:22.460 --> 01:03:24.400
for everyone who's going to be at the count and

01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:26.840
the security guard obviously he recognized me

01:03:26.840 --> 01:03:29.780
he was everyone he said mr bridgen that's that's

01:03:29.780 --> 01:03:31.599
where the ballot boxes are coming in we don't

01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:33.480
want anybody near the ballot box so we don't

01:03:33.480 --> 01:03:35.599
normally do that you know me that you know they're

01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:39.699
not all going to come at once they're three spark

01:03:39.699 --> 01:03:42.099
parking spaces it's no matter pulling up, get

01:03:42.099 --> 01:03:44.179
the ballot box out, bring it in into the hall

01:03:44.179 --> 01:03:46.980
to be opened. Something completely different.

01:03:47.139 --> 01:03:50.719
And then I got in and the polls closed. Well,

01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:55.239
it's interesting. I'd voted that morning for

01:03:55.239 --> 01:03:58.019
myself, believe it or not, at 7 .30 in the morning.

01:03:58.579 --> 01:04:01.519
And in the queue behind me, there were five people

01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:05.349
at 7 .30. And by the time I got... to my car

01:04:05.349 --> 01:04:08.269
in the car park having voted, two of the people

01:04:08.269 --> 01:04:09.809
in the queue behind me had already come to me

01:04:09.809 --> 01:04:12.449
and said, just voted for you. So in that queue

01:04:12.449 --> 01:04:15.269
of six of us, I knew I got at least half the

01:04:15.269 --> 01:04:17.969
votes. That's quite cheerful. Counting yourself,

01:04:18.250 --> 01:04:20.849
yes. Counting myself, I got at least half the

01:04:20.849 --> 01:04:27.989
votes. And so at 10 o 'clock, the new returning

01:04:27.989 --> 01:04:30.070
officer, the chief exec of the council, where

01:04:30.070 --> 01:04:33.309
the year before, the whole election team of...

01:04:36.199 --> 01:04:41.940
She stands up and she's shaking. She's just physically

01:04:41.940 --> 01:04:45.699
shaking and her voice is cracking. And she said,

01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:49.059
I have to make an announcement. I thought this

01:04:49.059 --> 01:04:52.039
is unusual. The polls have just closed, she said,

01:04:52.059 --> 01:04:54.699
but it's going to take a long time to bring the

01:04:54.699 --> 01:04:58.000
ballot boxes in. We might not get onto the count

01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:01.119
until two in the morning. That's four hours after

01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:05.280
the ballots have closed. When we were 120 square

01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:09.519
miles for five elections and two referendums,

01:05:09.519 --> 01:05:14.300
we got the ballot boxes all in in 30 minutes.

01:05:15.039 --> 01:05:19.400
Why is it going to take four hours? I never saw

01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:22.340
any of the ballot boxes opened. My votes were

01:05:22.340 --> 01:05:28.659
3 .2%. I know, I saw that. Down from 63%. Now,

01:05:28.659 --> 01:05:31.780
everywhere I walk around my area, even now, everyone

01:05:31.780 --> 01:05:34.980
says they voted for me. half the people say they

01:05:34.980 --> 01:05:39.460
voted for me it was interesting i also found

01:05:39.460 --> 01:05:42.940
out i'd agreed with the council a long time ago

01:05:42.940 --> 01:05:44.940
that the council buildings needed pulling down

01:05:44.940 --> 01:05:47.480
they were quite old and very inefficient listed

01:05:47.480 --> 01:05:49.519
building at the front which would be the registry

01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:53.400
office for the area we'd pull down the old buildings

01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:56.619
the customer facing services would go into empty

01:05:56.619 --> 01:05:59.000
shops in the shopping center and the back room

01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:02.900
services of the council would go into offices

01:06:02.900 --> 01:06:04.940
that the council own on an industrial estate.

01:06:05.739 --> 01:06:08.559
What I didn't know is that that all happened

01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:12.760
before the election, but they left the new elections

01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:15.380
department working in these massive offices completely

01:06:15.380 --> 01:06:18.219
unsupervised for the month before the general

01:06:18.219 --> 01:06:21.980
election. Also, two days after the election,

01:06:22.059 --> 01:06:24.820
and I'm in shock. I'm in shock that I've got

01:06:24.820 --> 01:06:31.869
3 .2%. A guy I've been speaking to since the

01:06:31.869 --> 01:06:34.710
madness started in 2019, a constituent, he rang

01:06:34.710 --> 01:06:38.730
me up and he said that he was very disappointed

01:06:38.730 --> 01:06:42.989
him and his wife had voted for me. And he said,

01:06:43.010 --> 01:06:45.090
I need to tell you something, though. He said,

01:06:45.150 --> 01:06:48.809
in the UK, a company called Ipsos Moria polling

01:06:48.809 --> 01:06:54.150
company, they do the exit poll. So as soon as

01:06:54.150 --> 01:06:56.230
the polls close, they've been speaking to enough

01:06:56.230 --> 01:06:58.940
people. all around the country that they know

01:06:58.940 --> 01:07:00.719
what the result's going to be because they said

01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:02.820
he said look you know he said i need to tell

01:07:02.820 --> 01:07:06.119
you i work for ipsos mori and i was in charge

01:07:06.119 --> 01:07:09.059
of the exit poll in your constituency and we

01:07:09.059 --> 01:07:11.219
got it all sorted we recruited everybody for

01:07:11.219 --> 01:07:13.420
it we knew where we were going to go we everything

01:07:13.420 --> 01:07:16.860
sorted he said on ipsos mori themselves they

01:07:16.860 --> 01:07:18.860
were struggling to have enough people to man

01:07:18.860 --> 01:07:22.059
all the areas they needed to said but we were

01:07:22.059 --> 01:07:24.340
all sorted in northwest leicestershire he said

01:07:24.340 --> 01:07:27.880
inexplicably his boss rang him two weeks before

01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:30.639
the election and said you can stand down we do

01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:32.480
not wish to poll northwest leicestershire and

01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:35.079
i put it to you they didn't want to poll northwest

01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:36.760
leicestershire because it wouldn't have been

01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:40.599
the same result it was in the ballot boxes yeah

01:07:40.599 --> 01:07:44.300
those ballot boxes were taken somewhere my votes

01:07:44.300 --> 01:07:46.719
were taken out and interestingly at the count

01:07:46.719 --> 01:07:49.940
one of the ballot boxes had got a lot more votes

01:07:49.940 --> 01:07:52.139
in it than the votes that were given out in the

01:07:52.139 --> 01:07:54.480
polling station can you explain to me how that

01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:58.340
could ever work They've taken my votes out and

01:07:58.340 --> 01:08:01.820
put too many of somebody else's in. And that

01:08:01.820 --> 01:08:05.820
is in the UK. I know. The corruption is so sophisticated

01:08:05.820 --> 01:08:11.500
in every which way. Well, you only have 21 days

01:08:11.500 --> 01:08:17.460
in the UK to object to an election. And I didn't.

01:08:18.760 --> 01:08:23.340
But election fraud, there's no statute of limitations

01:08:23.340 --> 01:08:26.529
on that. You know, there's more than a dozen

01:08:26.529 --> 01:08:28.350
people would have had to be involved in that

01:08:28.350 --> 01:08:30.689
fraud. That's why they couldn't get. That's why

01:08:30.689 --> 01:08:32.430
the count was late. That's why the ballot boxes

01:08:32.430 --> 01:08:34.869
didn't come in on time. The area had got smaller,

01:08:34.869 --> 01:08:36.390
not bigger. So they should have been in faster.

01:08:36.909 --> 01:08:39.670
But they weren't. They were in a lot, lot longer

01:08:39.670 --> 01:08:42.550
hours. That's because they had to take them somewhere

01:08:42.550 --> 01:08:48.289
and sort them out. But there's no statute of

01:08:48.289 --> 01:08:50.109
limitations. The people who were involved in

01:08:50.109 --> 01:08:52.699
that election fraud. We'll be looking over their

01:08:52.699 --> 01:08:54.039
shoulders for the rest of their life, and we

01:08:54.039 --> 01:08:55.699
only want one whistleblower to come forward,

01:08:55.779 --> 01:08:59.079
and it's all over for them. And that will happen,

01:08:59.180 --> 01:09:01.880
because that is what happened in North West Leicestershire.

01:09:02.460 --> 01:09:04.859
Interestingly, obviously, having been the MP

01:09:04.859 --> 01:09:09.399
for four terms, 14 years before that, you know,

01:09:09.399 --> 01:09:12.699
we sort of have a head of police in the area,

01:09:12.779 --> 01:09:15.060
who's normally a police inspector. And obviously,

01:09:15.140 --> 01:09:19.779
over that time, I've had a lot of heads of police

01:09:19.779 --> 01:09:23.119
who I've worked with. And, you know, some of

01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:24.859
them had retired, some of them had been moved

01:09:24.859 --> 01:09:28.460
to other areas eventually. And one of them, I

01:09:28.460 --> 01:09:31.920
bumped into him months after the election. And

01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:37.399
he came over to me at a filling station when

01:09:37.399 --> 01:09:40.260
I was filling the car up with fuel. And he said,

01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:43.619
how are you? I said, pretty upset about, you

01:09:43.619 --> 01:09:46.060
know, the election fraud and the way it was rigged.

01:09:46.460 --> 01:09:48.819
And he looked me in the eye, David, and he said...

01:09:49.229 --> 01:09:51.390
What did you expect the establishment to do to

01:09:51.390 --> 01:09:56.090
you? He was the former head of police in my area

01:09:56.090 --> 01:09:59.170
who I'd worked with for years. What did you expect

01:09:59.170 --> 01:10:02.090
the establishment to do to you, Andrew? I'd like

01:10:02.090 --> 01:10:05.109
to think the silver lining of this whole pandemic

01:10:05.109 --> 01:10:07.449
thing is it woke up a lot of people, maybe not

01:10:07.449 --> 01:10:10.210
everybody, but a lot of people like, wow, things

01:10:10.210 --> 01:10:13.930
are not as we thought they were. And to discard

01:10:13.930 --> 01:10:17.159
our beliefs and... The narratives that we've

01:10:17.159 --> 01:10:19.680
been delivered, just like let it all go and wake

01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:23.279
up and not believe anybody or anything any longer.

01:10:23.420 --> 01:10:26.619
Do you feel the same? You know, it's the pandemic,

01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:28.899
the overreach, the government overreach of the

01:10:28.899 --> 01:10:32.760
pandemic slapped me wide awake. And I was interesting

01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:35.020
that the same, but it must have always been like

01:10:35.020 --> 01:10:37.340
that, because when I went around the lobby with

01:10:37.340 --> 01:10:39.579
all the vaccine harm evidence, the scientific

01:10:39.579 --> 01:10:43.439
papers, same journalists who wouldn't run the

01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:47.270
post office. evidence 10 years before still wouldn't

01:10:47.270 --> 01:10:50.789
run and run by the same editors of the same newspapers

01:10:50.789 --> 01:10:54.550
and the same TV stations. That's when I realized

01:10:54.550 --> 01:10:59.829
we just don't have a free press in the UK. We

01:10:59.829 --> 01:11:01.949
don't have a parliament that can speak without

01:11:01.949 --> 01:11:06.630
fear or favor. I mean, one of my colleagues who's

01:11:06.630 --> 01:11:10.529
probably one of my best friends, I actually had

01:11:10.529 --> 01:11:15.609
two AstraZeneca shots before I realized. And

01:11:15.609 --> 01:11:18.850
the second one hurt me a bit. And I went to see

01:11:18.850 --> 01:11:20.590
a friend of mine in the Conservative Party and

01:11:20.590 --> 01:11:22.689
he'd headed up the net zero group. We had to

01:11:22.689 --> 01:11:24.550
call it the net zero group because we were against

01:11:24.550 --> 01:11:27.750
net zero, basically, against the man -made climate

01:11:27.750 --> 01:11:31.170
change rubbish. And so he was fairly awake. And

01:11:31.170 --> 01:11:33.970
I went to see him and I said, look, there's something

01:11:33.970 --> 01:11:37.010
wrong with these vaccines. Don't take any boosters.

01:11:37.630 --> 01:11:40.550
And he'd already had two Pfizer's. And I thought

01:11:40.550 --> 01:11:42.710
he'd listened to me. And a couple of weeks later,

01:11:42.750 --> 01:11:49.210
he came to me. And he said, I'm not right. I

01:11:49.210 --> 01:11:50.550
said, what do you mean you're not right? He said,

01:11:50.609 --> 01:11:53.970
I've been and had a booster and I've not been

01:11:53.970 --> 01:11:56.050
right since the moment it went in my arm. I felt

01:11:56.050 --> 01:11:59.510
weird. And the next thing I know, he's in hospital.

01:11:59.770 --> 01:12:04.390
The next thing I know, he's dying. And then a

01:12:04.390 --> 01:12:06.869
colleague of mine went to his hospital, got him

01:12:06.869 --> 01:12:09.869
out because he was on the end of life pathway.

01:12:10.729 --> 01:12:14.119
And he's younger than me. And we got him into

01:12:14.119 --> 01:12:16.939
the hospital opposite Parliament called St Thomas'.

01:12:16.939 --> 01:12:20.979
And they had to cut both his arms and legs off

01:12:20.979 --> 01:12:25.420
and the end of his nose. And they kept him alive.

01:12:25.699 --> 01:12:32.300
He got sepsis. And they made him some prosthetic

01:12:32.300 --> 01:12:35.880
arms and legs. And the government put him in

01:12:35.880 --> 01:12:37.600
the House of Lords because he couldn't be an

01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:41.720
MP anymore. They gave him a peerage. Well, he

01:12:41.720 --> 01:12:45.140
admitted to me on the phone last year that he

01:12:45.140 --> 01:12:47.600
knew what had caused all that and it could only

01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:51.659
be the vaccines. But he won't speak out. And

01:12:51.659 --> 01:12:55.640
shockingly, in February this year, he rang me,

01:12:55.720 --> 01:12:59.680
my old friend, and the message went something

01:12:59.680 --> 01:13:03.560
like this. He rang me up and said, Andrew, you've

01:13:03.560 --> 01:13:06.100
got to stop fighting back against the system.

01:13:07.100 --> 01:13:10.029
I said, what do you mean? You've got to stop

01:13:10.029 --> 01:13:13.729
or they're going to destroy you. I said, mate,

01:13:13.850 --> 01:13:16.369
I said, they cut both your arms and legs off

01:13:16.369 --> 01:13:19.050
and you're telling me that I've got to stop fighting

01:13:19.050 --> 01:13:22.970
back. And he said, well, that's what they told

01:13:22.970 --> 01:13:26.109
me to tell you. They'd forced him to come to,

01:13:26.149 --> 01:13:34.369
they'd forced him to ring me. I mean, it's just

01:13:34.369 --> 01:13:39.439
unbelievable. Wow. If you could do... everything

01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:42.619
all over again would you make different decisions

01:13:42.619 --> 01:13:49.399
i don't think i would i would have i would have

01:13:49.399 --> 01:13:51.560
voted i would have been more of a rebel than

01:13:51.560 --> 01:13:56.439
i was and i was considered a rebel um i think

01:13:56.439 --> 01:13:59.319
in life we regret the things we don't do more

01:13:59.319 --> 01:14:02.100
than the things we do and at the end of the day

01:14:02.100 --> 01:14:06.279
i know that my actions saved the lives of a lot

01:14:06.279 --> 01:14:09.310
of small children in the uk and the families

01:14:09.310 --> 01:14:13.010
from a lot of heartache, from injuries. And very

01:14:13.010 --> 01:14:15.609
few human beings get a chance to do that and

01:14:15.609 --> 01:14:19.550
to be in that position. And I didn't sacrifice

01:14:19.550 --> 01:14:23.689
anything for nothing. And would I do it again?

01:14:23.890 --> 01:14:30.430
Every day of the week. You know, we can't predict

01:14:30.430 --> 01:14:34.039
the... pathways of our life anything can happen

01:14:34.039 --> 01:14:37.359
so you you were delivered a pandemic while you

01:14:37.359 --> 01:14:40.819
were in service to parliament and um you didn't

01:14:40.819 --> 01:14:43.840
anticipate this and you had to stand firm for

01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:46.479
what you believed in and it caused you a tremendous

01:14:46.479 --> 01:14:51.439
amount of disruption in your life and um i think

01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:53.439
that's the moral of the stories we we we make

01:14:53.439 --> 01:14:56.470
plans in life but We just have to make the right

01:14:56.470 --> 01:14:59.930
decision as we go along. I could have taken the

01:14:59.930 --> 01:15:02.810
bribe. I could have shut up. They'd have had

01:15:02.810 --> 01:15:04.989
me completely compromised and could have made

01:15:04.989 --> 01:15:08.210
me do whatever they wanted. By David, I could

01:15:08.210 --> 01:15:10.189
have sold my soul to the devil like they did.

01:15:10.590 --> 01:15:13.250
And they have done. My colleagues have done.

01:15:15.069 --> 01:15:19.359
But you're never going to buy it back. I could

01:15:19.359 --> 01:15:21.000
not have looked to myself in the mirror for the

01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:24.399
rest of my life if I'd let those children be

01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:28.140
harmed and I could do anything about it. And

01:15:28.140 --> 01:15:31.119
I'm very encouraged with what President Trump

01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:34.699
put out yesterday, his truth social, demanding

01:15:34.699 --> 01:15:38.899
that Big Pharma demonstrate the claims that they

01:15:38.899 --> 01:15:41.640
made to him. I think he's shifting his position

01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:45.840
to a position where he's, when the evidence comes

01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:48.789
out of the vaccine harms and the... the deaths.

01:15:48.909 --> 01:15:50.630
He's going to be able to say to the American

01:15:50.630 --> 01:15:53.909
people that Big Pharma lied to him and they lied

01:15:53.909 --> 01:15:57.170
to everyone else. I honestly think that the truth

01:15:57.170 --> 01:16:01.850
about the vaccines is going to come out before

01:16:01.850 --> 01:16:06.909
the end of October. I think RFK Jr. Jay Bakacharya,

01:16:07.010 --> 01:16:10.729
who's your new head of NIH, instead of the awful

01:16:10.729 --> 01:16:13.409
Anthony Fauci. Jay's a really great guy. I know

01:16:13.409 --> 01:16:17.420
him. I mean, he's such a good guy. I don't think

01:16:17.420 --> 01:16:20.840
they're going to be dissuaded from exposing the

01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:24.539
truth. Will I be vindicated? Well, they wrote

01:16:24.539 --> 01:16:27.460
me out of the post office scandal because they

01:16:27.460 --> 01:16:30.239
didn't want to give me the credit for that. And

01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:33.119
they'll try and write me out of... But no one

01:16:33.119 --> 01:16:35.600
can take those speeches out of Hansard off the

01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:41.579
record of Parliament. And I think when this is

01:16:41.579 --> 01:16:43.739
all out, I think there's going to be a massive

01:16:43.739 --> 01:16:48.189
breakdown in trust. from the public in health

01:16:48.189 --> 01:16:54.810
care in science in politics um and i think you

01:16:54.810 --> 01:16:58.109
know i think we're going to need those people

01:16:58.109 --> 01:17:02.489
in positions of power who failed in their duty

01:17:02.489 --> 01:17:04.829
of care to the public i think they are crimes

01:17:04.829 --> 01:17:10.520
against humanity and uh unless Harsh punishments

01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:12.460
are given out. I don't know how we'll ever build

01:17:12.460 --> 01:17:15.020
the trust back with the public. They've been

01:17:15.020 --> 01:17:18.779
let down so badly by every institution in the

01:17:18.779 --> 01:17:21.239
UK that was there to protect the public interest

01:17:21.239 --> 01:17:27.359
and protect their health. And also, we need harsh

01:17:27.359 --> 01:17:29.979
punishments because we need a lesson that for

01:17:29.979 --> 01:17:33.180
anybody who wishes to take a position of responsibility

01:17:33.180 --> 01:17:35.560
where you have responsibility and power over

01:17:35.560 --> 01:17:40.840
other people, that if you abuse that trust you

01:17:40.840 --> 01:17:44.060
will be punished and that's going to have to

01:17:44.060 --> 01:17:46.500
come from America I'm afraid we're going to be

01:17:46.500 --> 01:17:49.460
relying on the new world to protect the old again

01:17:49.460 --> 01:17:52.359
to come to our rescue and I'm rather hoping that

01:17:52.359 --> 01:17:56.239
in October we have a tsunami of truth and justice

01:17:56.239 --> 01:17:59.340
that will come across the Atlantic rather quickly

01:17:59.340 --> 01:18:03.460
and sweep away the self -serving politicians

01:18:03.460 --> 01:18:06.180
that we've got not just in the UK but across

01:18:06.180 --> 01:18:10.760
the whole of Europe. Well said. Maybe it's a

01:18:10.760 --> 01:18:12.420
pipe dream, but I'm hoping for it. I'm praying

01:18:12.420 --> 01:18:15.579
for it. I look forward to checking out your documentary

01:18:15.579 --> 01:18:18.899
on thalidomide and the Horizon scandal, and I

01:18:18.899 --> 01:18:21.939
hope that this justice doesn't take 20 years

01:18:21.939 --> 01:18:25.399
to come to fruition. Well, I think they'll have

01:18:25.399 --> 01:18:28.380
gone about 20 months, and that's probably as

01:18:28.380 --> 01:18:31.539
fast as we could go. I mean, I know that RFK,

01:18:31.659 --> 01:18:34.699
you know, putting him into... health and human

01:18:34.699 --> 01:18:36.840
services in the us and people thinking it was

01:18:36.840 --> 01:18:39.060
all going to happen overnight i mean it's like

01:18:39.060 --> 01:18:43.220
it's like helicoptering in the new captain for

01:18:43.220 --> 01:18:46.140
an oil tanker that's going in the wrong direction

01:18:46.140 --> 01:18:50.000
and when he's landed on the deck he finds out

01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:51.960
that the crew were in mutiny and he's locked

01:18:51.960 --> 01:18:54.500
out of the wheelhouse and it's taken some time

01:18:54.500 --> 01:18:57.739
for him to establish himself and there'll be

01:18:57.739 --> 01:19:03.859
a lot of personality changes in cdc hhs nih which

01:19:03.859 --> 01:19:06.439
you're seeing now, but he's got his people in

01:19:06.439 --> 01:19:10.399
position. And the sooner he acts now, the safer

01:19:10.399 --> 01:19:12.079
his position, because obviously I'm aware that

01:19:12.079 --> 01:19:15.680
there are moves in the Senate and Congress. Big

01:19:15.680 --> 01:19:18.920
pharma puppets are trying to remove him from

01:19:18.920 --> 01:19:20.739
office, and that would be an awful thing to happen.

01:19:21.100 --> 01:19:23.640
He's moving quickly under the circumstances,

01:19:23.680 --> 01:19:26.119
I believe. Well, Andrew Bridgen, thank you for

01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:28.359
your time. I hope one day we get to meet in person.

01:19:28.439 --> 01:19:30.779
Maybe you and your buddies and myself, we can

01:19:30.779 --> 01:19:33.340
sit down and have a pint or five and we could

01:19:33.340 --> 01:19:35.220
talk about how we could improve the world together.

01:19:35.579 --> 01:19:37.920
So thank you for being such a warrior for all

01:19:37.920 --> 01:19:42.520
of us. Well, we've got to win the war yet. And

01:19:42.520 --> 01:19:45.020
history will be written by the victors. We better

01:19:45.020 --> 01:19:47.779
make sure we win then, haven't we? Thank you

01:19:47.779 --> 01:19:49.279
for your time. Thank you for sharing your story.

01:19:49.560 --> 01:19:51.659
Greatly appreciate it. Been a pleasure. Likewise.

01:19:51.960 --> 01:19:58.239
Thank you. All the best. That was fun. Thank

01:19:58.239 --> 01:20:01.260
you. Appreciate it. You're welcome. Great story.

01:20:01.300 --> 01:20:02.920
Great storyteller. Thank you.