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I told jokes about every race, class, ethnicity

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that you could imagine. Because if I'm only telling

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jokes about a specific group, then yeah, people

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can go, well, that's problematic. But I left

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nobody out of bounds for the sake of proving

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that anything can be a joke. Like a Jewish joke?

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Yes, like a Jewish joke, like a white joke, like

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a Christian joke, like a Hindu joke. Nothing

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off limits. Everybody can be joked about, and

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if you can take jokes, it proves that you are

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comfortable in your own skin. This is going to

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be a super fun show. You're going to like this

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show. I intentionally didn't debrief you so much

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because you love this topic. We have Braden Sorbo.

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He is a victim of Chinese cancellation. TikTok

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superstar influencer with a huge following and

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growing like crazy. Great content. Super funny.

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Made the wrong joke, really small, got the attention

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of the authorities at ByteDance and, I'm sure,

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the Chinese government, and went from that to,

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like, close to nothing. Shadowbanned him like

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crazy. Great to have you on our show, Braden.

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Well, thanks for having me. I'm excited to be

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here. You're welcome. Yeah. I see why you were

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hiding. You were hiding him. This is a really,

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really interesting show. We haven't had a guest

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like you before, and it's really, really cool.

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Let's give you a little background. You're from

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an acting family and it's even more interesting

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than what I just said because he's second generation

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cancel victim. Oh wow. Yeah, and so tell us a

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little about your family and your family background.

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Yeah, so I'm I think third generation or Norwegian

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and second generation cancel. So I'm not sure

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what exactly balance that makes me. But I come

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from a family of actors. My dad is Kevin Sorbo.

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He played Hercules on TV and a bunch of other

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things. And so when I was born in 2001 and growing

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up, the first seven or eight years of my life,

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I lived on Hollywood sets, going to these big

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extravagant productions and seeing both sides

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of the camera. And I fell in love with acting.

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And I remember around the time I turned eight

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-ish, my dad got canceled. from hollywood and

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so because of his conservative and christian

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stance and viewpoints on being pro -life and

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wanting america first free speech and the values

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that inherently define this country hollywood

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decided that they didn't want to work with him

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anymore and so i went from going on these crazy

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sets and falling in love with the movie industry

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to realizing at such a young age how dangerous

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and volatile it can be how bad did it get for

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the family i mean he was out of work like was

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it like a light switch no So he suffered three

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strokes during filming Hercules, which not a

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lot of people know about. And he wrote two books

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on it. And so he was always doing public speaking.

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And basically the second Hollywood said, we're

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done with you, the independent film industry

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said, please come work with us. And so he immediately,

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it was like a switch. Things didn't get bad per

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se. They just changed. And so I went from seeing,

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like I said, the extravagant lights and action,

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the red carpet, to these little independent movies

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that they're filming with a couple million dollars.

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And a lot of people watching this will hear that

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and go. A couple million dollars is a lot of

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money, but not to Hollywood. That's the whole

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budget, isn't it? That's the whole budget. To

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Hollywood, $5 million is catering. Yeah. Right?

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Pirates of the Caribbean is a $300 million movie

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that they spend another $100 million in P &A.

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And so for an independent film to raise $2 to

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$5 million is so hard, and it's barely enough

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to squeak something by. And I remember watching

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that, but still being in love with the Hollywood

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world. And so I decided when I was 11 that I

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wanted to be an actor myself. And my parents

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tried to talk me out of it just because, clearly,

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they didn't like the world themselves. I eventually

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whittled them down and they signed me up for

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acting classes. And I got my first movie at 14

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years old, a movie called Let There Be Light,

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which was an independent film. It was a drama.

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It's a fantastic movie. And I remember that was

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sort of... where everything sunk in. Was it religious

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based? It was, yes. It was like family friendly,

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Christian, and drama, everything. Feature film?

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Feature film, yes. So it was in theaters. We

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opened second to Thor Ragnarok. Wow. Dollar for

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dollar per screen average. And so we did exceedingly

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well with it. But when you have so little money

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to promote a film, the word of mouth is all that

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you can hope to achieve its success with. And

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so the independent film movies really took off

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with, do you guys remember God's Not Dead? No.

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It's like a $2 million budget. It made $140 million

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worldwide. Wow. So it is top five of all time

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movies in Hollywood grossing dollar for dollar.

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And so that was what kind of catapulted the independent

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film scene into, yes, because of its success,

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it proved that you don't have to have a $500

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million Hollywood movie with a star -speckled

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cast. is, you know, riddled for success that's

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going to guarantee that you're going to be profitable.

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It proves that you can make something even with

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a small budget and still have success to a degree.

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And so that gave me hope that the Hollywood world,

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my dream, essentially wasn't inherently gone

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because when I... I know your dad. I know your

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dad. Yeah. And your mom. Yes. Oh my God, I've

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met them a few times at Mar -a -Lago. Yeah, you

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thank you. Remind me what your mom does. She

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does public school speaking. So she is a homeschool

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advocate. So she writes books, travels the nation,

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talking about alternative schooling methods.

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Because we have a school. Public school, exactly.

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Remind me your mom's name. Sam. Yes, Sam. That's

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so funny. I just dropped her off at the airport

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before I came down here. Did she tell you she

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knows me? Mm -hmm. I didn't tell her who I was

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going to see. Oh, my goodness. So once I do,

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once I do. That's so awesome. They're so cool.

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Right? I like to think so. You have really cool

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parents. Thank you. Yeah, so I grew up on that

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side of witnessing how cancel culture can affect

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somebody firsthand. And so I took it upon myself

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to realize that and to learn how to best navigate

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the kind of waves. Whether it be politics, religion,

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or entertainment, there are always going to be

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stigmas, and there are always going to be aggressors,

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there's going to be prey and predators, and people

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will be saying things that are wrong, saying

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things that are right, and being attacked the

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same. And so I learned from a very young age

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that the best way to deal with the cancel culture

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in the world is to not back down, is to refuse

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to withdraw. And so... When I started my social

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media, I was a senior in high school. I was 18

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years old. And I said, you know, I want to do

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TikTok, but I don't want to dance shirtless or

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lip sync videos. Like I'm straight. I'm just

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not into all that stuff. And so I started telling

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jokes, politically incorrect, dark comedy, things

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like that. Because the biggest... attack in our

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culture overall has been an attack on comedy

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and masculinity, which is what I wrote a book

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about. I'll shout it out right now. It's called

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Embrace Masculinity. Embrace Masculinity. It's

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a new book. Yes, it just came out last month.

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So it's called Embrace Masculinity, Lifting Men

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Up in a World That Pushes Them Down. It's essentially

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a guide. Do you have a website where it's on?

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Sorbo Studios. SorboStudios .com. Yes. And so

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that book... Was sort of the catalyst for me.

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How old are you? 23. So this is my second book.

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You're so young, and I love it. Your parents

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must be so proud of you. Thank you. I appreciate

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it. Yeah, so I've been blessed to do 11 movies,

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2 dates, and 2 books at 23 years old. So I'm

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very lucky. This is your second book? This is

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my second book, yes. What was the first book?

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Called The B .S. Braden Sorbo Guide to Politics.

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It's a sarcastic political dictionary. Once again,

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in that joke vein. And so trying to bring humor

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to the political sphere, as dark as it may be.

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But the Embrace Masculinity book was my most

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serious project to date. And it really stands

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as a testament to my foundation of truth. Because

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inherently, in every individual, man or woman,

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there is truth. We know, right or wrong, whether

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or not the people watching this are religious,

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Paul writes in Romans 1, that the law is written

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on the hearts of man. So we have an inherent...

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idea that murder is wrong and we shouldn't just

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go around stabbing people for fun. That's not

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a good thing, right? So we know the differences

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fundamentally of good and bad. And so the book

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aims to explore that and lift people up so that

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they feel confident defending that. Because what

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we see in this world today is morality has become

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flexible and morality has become subjective.

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What I might think is wrong, you will say is

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right. And then it becomes a battle of, well,

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this is my opinion and this is my opinion and

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no one can tell anyone. differently and so in

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dealing with that and in starting my social media

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telling jokes i realized that inherently truth

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and the freedom of expression that we have had

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in this country has been taken for granted. And

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because of it, it has slowly been eroded away

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over decades and decades. I mean, we were talking

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before the show how in the 70s, they started

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pushing this narrative of, well, men, get in

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touch with your feelings. And then the men did.

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And they were ridiculed for it. They said, we

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want a sensitive man. And so the man opened up.

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And they said, you're a loser. You're a fragile,

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weak victim. You're useless. And then they told

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the women, women, act like men. And then the

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women looked to the worst possible examples of

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men and said, I'm going to be the aggressive,

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overbearing bad guy. And so we've destroyed fundamentally

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the values that have defined what it means to

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be American, what it means to live in this country.

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And so growing up watching all of this, I realized

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that something had to be done. And we have a

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lot of great voices. in this country. We have

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plenty of amazing people who are taking a stand,

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who are making a fight, who've been canceled.

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You look at Riley Gaines, the swimmer. You look

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at Charlie Kirk with Turning Point. Charlie will

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be here on Friday. Yes, that's why. It's perfect.

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Perfect window, because you mentioned. So you

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look at these people, but you don't have someone

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in Gen Z. You don't have someone under the age

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of 25. And that is why I decided I've already

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been canceled a few times, which we'll talk about

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more. I've already grown up in this world. Why

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not me? If I can survive one or two cancellations,

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I can survive them all. We've survived three.

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Exactly. So I'm on track to surpass you, hopefully.

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Two so far. It's on. We've got a competition.

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Well, we've got you, so he doesn't have a chance.

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I overheard him telling you while he didn't think

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I was listening that I'm the big mouth. Only

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in the best way. Fine. I accept it. Okay. So

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you started this TikTok. TikTok was your primary.

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Did you do the others as well or you just focused

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on TikTok? So I started TikTok primarily. I wanted

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to grow the others, but being as, you know, I

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don't do the shirtless content and I don't do

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all that stuff, the thirst trapping. I do shirtless

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content. For our followers. This is what I need.

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This is where the second half of the show is.

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David underscore Settner for all my shirtless

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content. Well, see, I do the gym stuff now. That's

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actually true. Yeah, I do the gym stuff now.

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You plugged your Instagram. I'll plug mine. If

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you want to follow me on my Instagram, Layla

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Settner. I don't do shirtless content. That's

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good. But you might want to bring a pillow because

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you're probably going to get a little sleepy.

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It's true. It's true. It's very simple. I do

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the fitness content now, but I started with just

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comedy and I started mainly on TikTok. Growing

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up in the Hollywood family, I decided I wanted

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to prove to myself because you hear claims of

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nepotism in all of this your entire life. And

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so I decided I'm going to start my TikTok without

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anything other than my first name. And so it

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was Brayden, maybe Brayden S for until I had

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about 500 ,000 followers. And once I reached

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that milestone, I went, okay, time to develop

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my brand. I've proven I can do it myself. And

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so at this point, people could say whatever they

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want to me, but I've established my own name

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separate from my parents with the hopes of growing

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even bigger than they ever did. And that is where

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I stand now. I've expanded to other platforms.

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I have a show called BS with Braden Sorbo where

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I do YouTube commentary content, stuff like that.

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Very short form podcast -esque videos. I have

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Instagram where I do fitness content. That's

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where my shirtless stuff is. That's where the

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shirtless stuff is. Exactly. The son of Hercules.

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I'm a quarter demigod, I think, is how that works.

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Yes, you kind of have to, yes. And your mom's

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pretty amazing too. Yes, she is. But that expansion

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really helped me kind of... narrow down and hone

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in on exactly what my message was. And so now

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I have this message of lifting people up with

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traditional virtues and values. Let's go to the...

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Yeah, that's what I want. Go to the first cancellation.

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Explain what happened. You're figuring it out.

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What did you even say? You're figuring out your

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voice. You're figuring out your voice and it's

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growing and you're probably refining and tinkering

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as you go along and everything's working and

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it got really big. How big did it get? So I want

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to say that I was almost to a million followers.

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I was at about 900 ,000 followers at the time

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of my first cancellation. And this was maybe

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2020 during the Hong Kong riots when China was

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sort of oppressing Hong Kong. And they had the

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people fighting the rooftop Koreans and the people

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in Hong Kong fighting against the CCP. And I

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remember doing a joke because all my jokes were

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less than 60 seconds. I would sit down. I'd set

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my phone up. And I would talk to the camera.

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I would tell a joke. And then I would end the

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video. That was it. But people loved it. My third

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ever video blew up. I just, because I loved the

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public speaking. Do you remember that joke on

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the third video? Oh my gosh. I wish I did. It's

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so far back. Yeah, get it in B -roll. Maybe you

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can find it, send it to us, and we'll put it

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up. Okay. Sounds good. Yeah, so I remember I

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would tell all these jokes, and my third ever

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video blew up. Because my first video had 10

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views. My second video had 100. I was going,

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100 views is pretty good. Second video, 30 ,000

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views in an hour. I went, oh. That's awesome.

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And then from that point on, I would average

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roughly 100 ,000 to 500 ,000 views on every video.

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Wow. One video a day for the next six months

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to a year. Wow. And gaining 500 ,000 followers

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a month. So by the time I was almost to a million

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followers, the Hong Kong riots were going on,

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and I told jokes about everything. I told jokes

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about every race, class. class, ethnicity, that

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you could imagine. Because if I'm only telling

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jokes about a specific group, then yeah, people

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can go, well, that's problematic. But I left

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nobody out of bounds for the sake of proving

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that anything can be a joke. Like a Jewish joke?

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Yes, like a Jewish joke, like a white joke, like

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a Christian joke, like a Hindu joke. Nothing

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off limits. Everybody can be joked about, and

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if you can take jokes, it proves that you are

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comfortable in your own skin. That's my whole

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premise is jokes are good because they define

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us. They refine us and they strengthen us. And

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so I can look at someone make a joke about me

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being tall. You don't know how many times I've

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heard, how's the weather up there? You would

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think that eventually it would get annoying or

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you can come up with a funny response back, right?

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That is what you get to decide is your reaction

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to what someone else says to you, right? And

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so I told jokes about everything. And then I

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finally told the joke about Hong Kong. And I

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said, I have a buddy in Hong Kong. And I asked

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him, what he thinks about what China's doing

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with the protests and the government overreach

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and all that. He goes, he can't complain. That

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was kind of funny. That was it. It took, it wasn't

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even. That's so short. It wasn't even. The shortest

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joke ever. It's not even like a stellar joke.

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It's not even something that, you know, you put

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on Joe Rogan or whatever. It's a dad joke. It's

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a dad joke. Two minutes. That video was up before

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it got taken down. Two minutes. Wow. It got 30

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,000 views. I remember because I stay on for

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the first couple minutes just refreshing to make

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sure everything's working properly. It got up

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to 30 ,000 views in two minutes and bow, down.

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Every video I posted after that pulled off. Deleted.

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Community guidelines violation for hate speech.

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I told jokes about everything else. Anything

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else. Not one hate speech violation because I

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wasn't hateful with my jokes. People could tell

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that I wasn't being serious. They just understood

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that what I was saying was funny. That was it.

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There was no deeper meaning other than, ha ha

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ha, move on to the next video. Do you think it

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was a computer that heard the joke? Or they have

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millions of people that sit in rooms listening

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to content. It depends because when you get to

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a point where you have hundreds of thousands

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of followers, you're watched and held under a

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microscope because there's more eyes on you.

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So if you're an account with 10 followers...

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They might get to what you post, but it's going

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to take them a while because your account doesn't

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really matter. But if you have a million followers.

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And just for our audience, TikTok is owned by

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a company called ByteDance, which is a China

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-based company. And in China, all the tech companies

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have a seat at the table, at the very least,

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by the Chinese government. It's not actually

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owning a majority of the company. So very, very

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Chinese. Very, very heavy Chinese government,

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you know. Precedence is set and so my account

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was under scrutiny just because it was a larger

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account So everything I said was held under a

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microscope I just had a great fan base that loved

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what I was posting so that I wouldn't have to

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worry about You know being taken down immediately

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at least right away without I'd had a couple

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violations I'd been on live streams where I made

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some jokes or said an Algorithmic trigger word

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and so they would pause my live stream band me

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for a week stuff like that But nothing to the

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point where what followed which I think your

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audience will find interesting is I went from

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averaging 100 to 500 ,000 views per video within

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24 hours of posting. So I'd post a day later,

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go back half a million views. I gained 10 ,000

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followers. Huge. Were you making money at this

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point? I was making a little bit of money. Not

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much because they hadn't fully established their

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ad system. They were still relatively new. We

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have to remember summer 2019 was arguably the

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best year for TikTok growth in terms of freedom.

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And it was that summer of 2019 where TikTok and

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ByteDance and the CCP realized, oh, hold on.

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this app's going to be the biggest app in the

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world. We need to lock it down. And that's when

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everything started to switch. So you can ask

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a lot of the creators who've been around for

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a long time. They will all tell you that summer

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2019 was the best years of TikTok because you

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had the most freedom of expression because there

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were no restrictions because advertisers hadn't

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come on the platform yet. The government hadn't

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started overreaching yet. And so you had all

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of this lovely freedom that we took for granted.

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And so after I posted that video, taken down

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within a few minutes. Community guidelines violation

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for hate speech every video I posted after that

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for the next six months Six to eight months wouldn't

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pass like 15 ,000 views It was a full block I

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maybe had one or two videos squeaked by because

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I was super careful about how I worded something

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and would comment under it everyone Please help

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me share this video to get it back up like that

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kind of thing, but I could not surpass 50 ,000

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views even and so I was So done with TikTok.

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I'd grown this amazing account. I was ecstatic

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about it. This was my next big thing. I was like,

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I finally found what I want to do with my life.

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I can use this to bolster a speaking career or

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Hollywood because they'll hire people with large

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social media presences. And then it stopped.

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And I was sitting there going, what the hell

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am I doing? What kind of emotions were going

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through you at the time? Oh, despair. I was just

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done. I was defeated. Sadness. Sadness, yeah.

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I was defeated. I was done. I had nothing else.

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I mean, I'd been putting, ironically, not a lot

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of time into it. One video a day is really not

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that hard, especially when you sit, record, post,

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and then close your phone and do something else.

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But I'd gotten accustomed to it. And growing

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up, I'm the oldest of three. So I am the stereotypical

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oldest child, where I am the... You know, the

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extrovert, the guy who loves hosting people.

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I mean, when I was nine years old, I would have

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playdates set up that I would organize myself.

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And the parents would come to the house and drop

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their kid off, see my mom and go, oh my gosh,

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I never talked to you. Is this okay? Did you

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know we were doing this? And she would go, yeah,

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Braden told me, but I was that kid. I was the

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extrovert. Didn't matter where we went, I would

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make friends. I'd be four years old, sitting

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on the front porch, eating grapes, waving and

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talking to passerbys. Right? So, to lose... Such

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a significant outreach and to lose the attention.

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Yeah. Really impacted. It took your voice. It

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was exactly. And it was almost like your show.

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It was your show. It was an extension of me.

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Yeah. Yeah. And so losing that. impacted my ego

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because I hadn't fully gotten comfortable with

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who I was as a person yet. And so this being

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an extension of me. That was almost like your

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persona. It was. Well, it wasn't even a persona

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because it was me. And so being told that I was

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inherently wrong and that everything that I did

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was bad from that point forward had an impact

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on me because I took it seriously. You put you

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in TikTok jail. Well, I took it personally because

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I wasn't putting up filters. I wasn't putting

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up these walls. My audience got me. They got

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to see. Brayden Sorbo unfiltered. And when Brayden

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Sorbo unfiltered was rejected, Brayden was rejected.

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And I'm sitting there at 19 years old going,

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what did I do wrong? All I was trying to do was

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make people laugh. And so I remember there came

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a point, this is maybe a year after that initial

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shadow ban. Did you cry? I don't cry much. I'll

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try right here. I don't cry much. I don't know

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what it is. Would it be helpful if one of us

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starts crying first? Yeah, we could all start

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crying together. Ironically, I can cry better

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in movies than I can in real life. It's perfect.

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Cue the onion fumes, please. Someone get some

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sad music going, please. Get the rain. No, I

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remember I was just pissed off. I was sad. I

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was upset. Yeah, just a little bit of everything.

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All the emotions. And I remember sitting in my

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room. Almost. But at the same time, knowing I

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did nothing wrong. But did you know, I mean,

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you were banned by communists? That's got to

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at least make you feel better. There's some sort

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of lining to this. You make the connection that

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a bunch of communists banned you? Eventually.

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But once again, I was still a kid. I'm still

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thinking about being rejected personally rather

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than, oh, you know what I mean? It's like going

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up and talking to a girl at a bar and she rejects

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you. And later you find out she's a serial killer.

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It's like, oh, well, that rejection was a good

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thing. You know what I mean? But in the moment,

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you're going, what did I do wrong? Why did I

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get rejected? And then, you know. she find that

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you find out she stole someone's kidney later

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you're like thank god it wasn't me exactly and

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so I remember I was sitting in my room and I

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was contemplating quitting just because there

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was no point right no views I wasn't making any

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money they still hadn't implemented the full

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ad revenue system but there was no way I was

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gonna make anything with the little views that

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I had yeah so I was going I'm just gonna do something

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else i don't need to be doing this anymore and

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i remember i don't go on instagram very much

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and look at my dm requests but i decided i would

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just go check it out so i go on instagram i open

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up my message request and at the very top is

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a message from this kid maybe 14 years old 15.

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he goes hey braden i just want to let you know

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i'm a freshman in high school and i get bullied

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a lot and coming home to your videos every day

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makes me happy i was heavily contemplating suicide

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Wow. And your videos make me laugh. And it tells

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me that there isn't just bad in the world. So

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thank you for what you do. Wow. And just that

00:23:05.569 --> 00:23:08.309
one person was enough for me to go, okay, this

00:23:08.309 --> 00:23:11.750
is important. This is why I do it. And it gave

00:23:11.750 --> 00:23:13.509
me an entirely new purpose. That was from God,

00:23:13.529 --> 00:23:15.910
by the way. Yes. It was no longer about what

00:23:15.910 --> 00:23:19.630
I can do to get approval from other people. It

00:23:19.630 --> 00:23:23.450
was about how I can make other people laugh and

00:23:23.450 --> 00:23:26.099
how I can make other people think. Because when

00:23:26.099 --> 00:23:27.700
we stop thinking for ourselves and when we stop

00:23:27.700 --> 00:23:34.839
laughing, we lose everything. I mean, everybody

00:23:34.839 --> 00:23:36.359
on the show has been through a cancellation journey

00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:39.140
and everybody sort of arrives at the same place

00:23:39.140 --> 00:23:43.099
that there's a reason it all went terribly sideways,

00:23:43.480 --> 00:23:46.140
you know, and the depths that we have to go through

00:23:46.140 --> 00:23:50.000
in order to find our mission and purpose. So

00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:56.009
you got really low. Yeah, go for it. Okay, so

00:23:56.009 --> 00:23:58.369
at that time, how many followers did you have

00:23:58.369 --> 00:24:01.450
on Instagram? A couple thousand. Instagram wasn't

00:24:01.450 --> 00:24:04.599
transferring from TikTok. Okay. So did you have

00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:07.140
to then, did you decide to start back over or

00:24:07.140 --> 00:24:09.220
did you decide to focus on Instagram? Where did

00:24:09.220 --> 00:24:11.380
you go from there? So I kept going on TikTok.

00:24:11.539 --> 00:24:13.680
I didn't stop posting. Even though you were getting

00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:15.720
a lot less views, you're like, I don't care if

00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:19.279
15 ,000, if I can impact one, I'm doing God's

00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:21.960
work. Yes. And because of that, because of the

00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:24.700
consistency and slow iterations with new content

00:24:24.700 --> 00:24:27.579
and testing out different things, trying, you

00:24:27.579 --> 00:24:29.819
know, hold new avenues and all that stuff. My

00:24:29.819 --> 00:24:32.200
content. eventually started to pick back up i

00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:34.619
had a couple joke videos still blow up years

00:24:34.619 --> 00:24:40.079
later but now you know the content is is significantly

00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:41.960
better than it used to be it's still not back

00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:44.200
to what it was but then again tick tock itself

00:24:44.200 --> 00:24:46.200
is oversaturated with the amount of content creators

00:24:46.200 --> 00:24:48.900
yeah and the videos that i used to post wouldn't

00:24:48.900 --> 00:24:51.880
perform well today just because of how quickly

00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:53.940
the market changes you know we all we always

00:24:53.940 --> 00:24:56.420
ask our guests the same question if they could

00:24:56.420 --> 00:24:58.460
do it all over again would you post that hong

00:24:58.460 --> 00:25:03.390
kong Joke again on TikTok. Knowing what I know.

00:25:04.569 --> 00:25:07.529
I think the lesson itself was incredibly valuable.

00:25:07.670 --> 00:25:09.490
And I would also say that there might have been

00:25:09.490 --> 00:25:11.630
other ways that I could have learned it. Maybe

00:25:11.630 --> 00:25:14.490
I would. Oh, I don't know. Because I wouldn't

00:25:14.490 --> 00:25:16.589
back down from speaking truth. That's the thing

00:25:16.589 --> 00:25:18.829
is I wouldn't change the truth to fit someone

00:25:18.829 --> 00:25:20.890
else's narrative. The truth is unchangeable.

00:25:20.910 --> 00:25:22.430
I'm sorry. It's objective. Take it up with God.

00:25:22.509 --> 00:25:24.690
It's not my problem. But the joke is just a.

00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:28.019
I don't want to say it's just a joke, but I think

00:25:28.019 --> 00:25:32.960
I would not post it again. Why? For what purpose?

00:25:33.220 --> 00:25:35.380
Going back, I think I would be cautious about

00:25:35.380 --> 00:25:37.059
how I handled it, but I would still try to bring

00:25:37.059 --> 00:25:39.619
jokes about the situation because I try to make

00:25:39.619 --> 00:25:41.319
jokes about whatever's trending. Would you make

00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:46.160
jokes about China? I don't see why not. I'm not

00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:49.619
suggesting that you... No, of course. But I don't

00:25:49.619 --> 00:25:53.079
see why we should be giving certain... yeah countries

00:25:53.079 --> 00:25:56.299
like special permission to avoid a joke we're

00:25:56.299 --> 00:25:57.759
not we're not going out saying like i hate you

00:25:57.759 --> 00:25:59.460
and i hope your whole country blows up like that

00:25:59.460 --> 00:26:01.519
we're not doing that it's a joke but everybody

00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:04.140
knows that's just it china is communism is they're

00:26:04.140 --> 00:26:05.900
not they don't even hide it there's no freedom

00:26:05.900 --> 00:26:08.339
exactly we're not calling them like a name that's

00:26:08.339 --> 00:26:10.279
what they're communist would i make a joke about

00:26:10.279 --> 00:26:12.559
americans being overweight inherently we are

00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:14.460
overweight without a doubt would i make a joke

00:26:14.460 --> 00:26:18.920
about the Brits having bad teeth. Sure, why not?

00:26:19.059 --> 00:26:21.339
Right? It's just a joke. There are plenty of

00:26:21.339 --> 00:26:23.200
British people that I know who don't have bad

00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:26.059
teeth. And they would laugh because they realize

00:26:26.059 --> 00:26:28.920
that it's not a direct attack on them. Yeah,

00:26:29.019 --> 00:26:33.240
exactly. It's all the teeth. Exactly. So what

00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:35.700
was your second one? There's another one? Yeah,

00:26:35.779 --> 00:26:38.059
you've already been cancelled twice, right? A

00:26:38.059 --> 00:26:39.920
little bit, yes. What was the second one? So

00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:42.680
the second one's been significantly less. drastic

00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:44.680
just because I've learned how to handle it better.

00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:46.740
And so the second one was when I switched up

00:26:46.740 --> 00:26:49.400
my content again. At the beginning of 2024 January

00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:51.279
I launched a show called BS with Brayden Sorbo

00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:53.059
which was my political commentary stuff and that's

00:26:53.059 --> 00:26:56.319
when I switched more from the world of comedy

00:26:56.319 --> 00:27:00.460
into the world of politics and commentary and

00:27:00.460 --> 00:27:03.359
bringing humor to that as opposed to bringing

00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:07.480
everything out of it. Like a J .P. Sears kind

00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:09.950
of thing? Sure. That'd be one way to put it.

00:27:09.970 --> 00:27:13.069
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just sort of the Gen Z perspective,

00:27:13.089 --> 00:27:16.589
if you will. And so, but not skits. Well, he

00:27:16.589 --> 00:27:18.569
does commentary as well. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

00:27:18.569 --> 00:27:19.910
But not the skits part, because I'm pretty sure

00:27:19.910 --> 00:27:23.089
it is good. I don't do the skits as well as him,

00:27:23.130 --> 00:27:27.910
so I wouldn't try. He's funnier than I am. But

00:27:27.910 --> 00:27:30.700
I... I remember I launched the show and I changed

00:27:30.700 --> 00:27:33.319
up my content on TikTok and Instagram so drastically

00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:35.180
that the algorithm did not like it. And so this

00:27:35.180 --> 00:27:38.480
was almost a self -imposed shadow jail ban where

00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:42.779
my views significantly just nosedived. But...

00:27:43.339 --> 00:27:45.779
Learning from the previous mistakes and not wanting

00:27:45.779 --> 00:27:47.480
to deal with, okay, I'm not going to look at

00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:48.660
the mental of it. I'm not going to get caught

00:27:48.660 --> 00:27:51.299
up in the, you know, whatever. I kept posting

00:27:51.299 --> 00:27:53.759
the political stuff. The cancellation came from

00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:56.460
the reaction. Turns out a lot of my followers

00:27:56.460 --> 00:28:01.119
disagree on a moral level with me. And so I receive...

00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:02.980
Wait, elaborate on that a little bit. What does

00:28:02.980 --> 00:28:05.859
that mean? A lot of followers of mine were following

00:28:05.859 --> 00:28:09.519
for comedy and also still very liberal in their

00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:11.700
ideologies. And so I would make a post about

00:28:11.700 --> 00:28:15.039
abortion. And I would receive death threats for

00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:18.079
it. And so my cancellation didn't come from being

00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:20.660
put in shadow jail, TikTok bans. My cancellation

00:28:20.660 --> 00:28:23.000
came from people saying that they wanted me to

00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:25.019
die, to be the next Lake and Riley, to be the

00:28:25.019 --> 00:28:27.960
next X, Y, and Z. Like full -on death threats

00:28:27.960 --> 00:28:29.960
saying, how dare you say this, that, or the other

00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:31.599
thing. You're going to get what's coming to you.

00:28:31.849 --> 00:28:34.349
That kind of thing. So you were first shadow

00:28:34.349 --> 00:28:36.430
banned by the government. The second shadow ban

00:28:36.430 --> 00:28:38.950
was by people who were following you. Yes, a

00:28:38.950 --> 00:28:41.529
rejection of my initial audience. And I've since

00:28:41.529 --> 00:28:42.930
founded a new audience. We had some of that.

00:28:42.990 --> 00:28:44.609
So when we went through our cancellation journey,

00:28:44.809 --> 00:28:48.089
where she was outspoken at the school, our phone

00:28:48.089 --> 00:28:51.109
blew up with people who had the most horrible

00:28:51.109 --> 00:28:53.890
things to say. And we had to keep swapping out

00:28:53.890 --> 00:28:55.920
the... It's the lady who answered the phone because

00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:57.559
it was just too emotional. She couldn't handle

00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:01.619
it anymore. I'm like, toughen up. Just a bunch

00:29:01.619 --> 00:29:03.559
of... Sending things in the mail that were graphic

00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:06.720
and horrible. Very graphic. Yeah. No, it's crazy.

00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:09.619
I've lost friendships over this. How? Tell us

00:29:09.619 --> 00:29:12.700
about that. People have, to put nicely, people

00:29:12.700 --> 00:29:14.640
have just unfollowed me. They've removed me.

00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:16.119
And then in other ways, they've messaged me and

00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:18.420
said, I can't believe that this is what you hold

00:29:18.420 --> 00:29:21.819
to. How did I ever like you as a person to begin

00:29:21.819 --> 00:29:24.240
with? And I go, it's not that. But if it is to

00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:26.839
you, it shows where your problems lie. I just

00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:29.039
wish we could be more tolerant of a society.

00:29:29.619 --> 00:29:31.299
If somebody wants to hold a different perspective

00:29:31.299 --> 00:29:33.940
or belief, it doesn't impact me or my family,

00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:37.579
it's fine. I'm okay with that. That's just it.

00:29:37.579 --> 00:29:41.980
We had family members that cut us off because

00:29:41.980 --> 00:29:46.240
of our stance on vaccines and so forth or whatever.

00:29:46.420 --> 00:29:48.720
And it's like, listen, why do you think we have

00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:52.309
to agree? There is... The reason that they think

00:29:52.309 --> 00:29:55.529
that is because it is essentially decades and

00:29:55.529 --> 00:29:58.410
decades of slow planning and implementation by

00:29:58.410 --> 00:30:00.470
the government. And so people are purposefully

00:30:00.470 --> 00:30:04.250
being divided for the sake of disharmony. Because

00:30:04.250 --> 00:30:06.089
when you're unified, when people get together

00:30:06.089 --> 00:30:09.029
and are combined collectively, countries, communities,

00:30:09.230 --> 00:30:12.170
cities, everything is built. If you don't have

00:30:12.170 --> 00:30:14.430
unity, you can't build anything yourself. And

00:30:14.430 --> 00:30:16.130
so people become heavily reliant and dependent

00:30:16.130 --> 00:30:18.650
on a system that tells them what to do, where

00:30:18.650 --> 00:30:21.450
to do it, and how to do it. And so when you have

00:30:21.450 --> 00:30:23.390
people who are willing to think for themselves

00:30:23.390 --> 00:30:27.480
and say things that are countercultural. they

00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:29.299
end up suffering the repercussions for it. In

00:30:29.299 --> 00:30:32.440
my book, I touch on the fact that we create a

00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:35.460
society of weakness because weakness breeds compliance.

00:30:35.900 --> 00:30:39.259
The weaker you are physically, the less likely

00:30:39.259 --> 00:30:42.119
you are to think rationally or for yourself because

00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:46.400
you want to avoid confrontation. Yes, 150%. Scientific,

00:30:46.579 --> 00:30:49.720
direct. People can argue with it. Day and night,

00:30:49.819 --> 00:30:52.140
but it doesn't change the hardened science. The

00:30:52.140 --> 00:30:55.140
truth behind it is the fact that we have created

00:30:55.140 --> 00:30:57.440
a society of people who are compliant because

00:30:57.440 --> 00:30:59.480
they are not strong enough to stand on their

00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:02.559
own. And so when I tell people that, it makes

00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:06.000
me unpopular. And yet, that's what I've decided

00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:08.859
to do. I bet if you look back at the earliest

00:31:08.859 --> 00:31:11.720
days of America, there's probably a whole bunch

00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.480
of super outspoken, opinionated people, which

00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:19.589
was served as well. Yes. bring us to present

00:31:19.589 --> 00:31:24.029
day, yeah, we become sheeple. We're much easier

00:31:24.029 --> 00:31:26.990
to control if everybody is kind of scared to

00:31:26.990 --> 00:31:29.069
speak up. That's sort of where this show came

00:31:29.069 --> 00:31:33.349
from. This show gives people a voice. We felt

00:31:33.349 --> 00:31:35.609
we didn't have a voice. You went from TikTok

00:31:35.609 --> 00:31:37.990
to you didn't have any other social media, pretty

00:31:37.990 --> 00:31:40.430
much. So that's the purpose of the show, to give

00:31:40.430 --> 00:31:42.190
people an opportunity to come and tell their

00:31:42.190 --> 00:31:46.670
story. It's really important. How many people

00:31:46.670 --> 00:31:49.960
started to unfollow you? Was it just like a massive

00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:54.059
unfollowing? Yeah, it was a mass exodus. I wouldn't

00:31:54.059 --> 00:31:56.680
be able to give you a specific number, 100 ,000,

00:31:56.740 --> 00:31:59.319
200 ,000. It was a large number. Wow, that's

00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:01.180
pretty big. Yes. A majority of my followers,

00:32:01.259 --> 00:32:04.039
though, were pretty already on that right side

00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:05.819
because the jokes that I was saying were not

00:32:05.819 --> 00:32:07.400
necessarily appropriate or politically correct,

00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.039
so they already had that kind of instilled in

00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:12.369
them. And so when I switched on my content, it

00:32:12.369 --> 00:32:15.650
was just because of the mass reporting from former

00:32:15.650 --> 00:32:18.990
followers or people just on the page that TikTok

00:32:18.990 --> 00:32:21.869
refused to push the video anywhere. So my actual

00:32:21.869 --> 00:32:23.670
followers wouldn't see it, that kind of thing.

00:32:23.970 --> 00:32:27.970
And it came down to... I won't be surprised if

00:32:27.970 --> 00:32:30.470
they purposely pushed it to the people that they

00:32:30.470 --> 00:32:33.049
know are not aligned with you. Oh, yeah. I've

00:32:33.049 --> 00:32:34.210
talked to a couple... Because they're very smart.

00:32:34.569 --> 00:32:36.130
They are. I've talked to a couple other people

00:32:36.130 --> 00:32:40.009
in the same spheres as me online. Not necessarily

00:32:40.009 --> 00:32:42.809
the same content, but everyone recently has even

00:32:42.809 --> 00:32:45.029
seen a dip in their viewership. There's something

00:32:45.029 --> 00:32:47.150
going around, for whatever reason, on social

00:32:47.150 --> 00:32:49.450
media, specifically Instagram, where a lot of

00:32:49.450 --> 00:32:51.430
commentary accounts, political accounts, meme

00:32:51.430 --> 00:32:53.690
accounts even, that just make jokes, are getting

00:32:53.690 --> 00:32:56.549
hit. And there was a mass ban that just happened

00:32:56.549 --> 00:32:58.529
to a lot of people. Some of them are my friends.

00:32:58.950 --> 00:33:01.450
Simply for making jokes, making memes, making

00:33:01.450 --> 00:33:03.769
comments. And Zuckerberg. said he wasn't going

00:33:03.769 --> 00:33:06.250
to do that. Yes. And now everyone is sort of

00:33:06.250 --> 00:33:07.950
seeing that, okay, well. He is doing it because

00:33:07.950 --> 00:33:10.309
he's a liar. Well, maybe he didn't do it. That's

00:33:10.309 --> 00:33:11.930
his get out of jail. I didn't press the button,

00:33:11.950 --> 00:33:13.609
but someone else went over here. I just closed

00:33:13.609 --> 00:33:16.529
my eyes and did this. Exactly. Yeah, so we've

00:33:16.529 --> 00:33:19.690
witnessed in real time, you know, wave after

00:33:19.690 --> 00:33:22.490
wave of attack and attack and attack. I mean.

00:33:22.650 --> 00:33:24.930
So did this one hit you as hard as the first

00:33:24.930 --> 00:33:26.910
one? Like, did you feel that one in your heart?

00:33:26.970 --> 00:33:29.480
Because it's one thing to be. You know, like

00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:31.940
I took it as a lot of pride when the government

00:33:31.940 --> 00:33:34.039
tried to ban me. Yeah. You know, I'm like, yeah,

00:33:34.059 --> 00:33:36.000
you know, the government is that interested in

00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:37.500
me? Great. She's wired differently. You know,

00:33:37.539 --> 00:33:39.799
I'm like, let's go. Let's do this. Yeah. You

00:33:39.799 --> 00:33:42.640
know, Chucky, redheaded Chucky was talking to

00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:44.299
me on the press secretary. You know who that

00:33:44.299 --> 00:33:46.799
is, right? Yes. Sucky. I call her redheaded Chucky.

00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:49.240
Redheaded Chucky's hilarious. And, you know,

00:33:49.259 --> 00:33:52.200
I was like, that's kind of cool. So it's kind

00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.740
of cool you got banned by China. Yes. Not a lot

00:33:55.740 --> 00:33:58.490
of people can say that. Right? Now I need America.

00:33:58.769 --> 00:34:00.950
But when you get banned by your peers, like,

00:34:00.990 --> 00:34:03.650
did that one hurt you more? The friends? Or at

00:34:03.650 --> 00:34:05.849
that point, were you like... Ironically, no,

00:34:05.910 --> 00:34:08.849
because Hollywood relationships are very transactional,

00:34:08.849 --> 00:34:10.809
and so people aren't necessarily friends with

00:34:10.809 --> 00:34:12.650
each other. They're just acquaintances because

00:34:12.650 --> 00:34:14.489
they can get something from you. And so when

00:34:14.489 --> 00:34:17.070
a lot of those Hollywood or social media friendships

00:34:17.070 --> 00:34:22.230
ended, I... Was almost expecting it to a degree

00:34:22.230 --> 00:34:23.630
because I was going you are in this world There's

00:34:23.630 --> 00:34:25.550
a very strong chance that I'm different than

00:34:25.550 --> 00:34:27.469
you in my viewpoint And when you find that out

00:34:27.469 --> 00:34:29.210
you're going to hate me and I've witnessed that

00:34:29.210 --> 00:34:31.230
already with my dad losing his friends And so

00:34:31.230 --> 00:34:33.610
it prepared me so it didn't hit me nearly as

00:34:33.610 --> 00:34:35.769
hard because originally ego. I love the attention

00:34:35.769 --> 00:34:37.829
I wanted it. I lost it. I went what the heck

00:34:37.829 --> 00:34:41.730
yeah this time I Still like the attention. I

00:34:41.730 --> 00:34:43.730
still like being able to be that voice be that

00:34:43.730 --> 00:34:46.579
person be that speaker But losing it wasn't necessarily

00:34:46.579 --> 00:34:48.719
a shock. It was, all right, this is to be expected.

00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:51.000
We know how this works now. Losing those quote

00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:52.639
-unquote friendships meant that they weren't

00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:54.400
really friends to begin with, in which case,

00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:56.519
all right, see you later. I wish you nothing

00:34:56.519 --> 00:34:58.139
but the best. I know you wouldn't say the same

00:34:58.139 --> 00:35:01.159
to me, but I'm going to take the high road and...

00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:05.400
Walk away. And so there wasn't necessarily nearly

00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:08.019
as much of an impact, which I'm grateful for.

00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:09.719
But now I just need to be canceled by America

00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:11.360
because that is how you become more prominent

00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:13.599
and get a show and everything like this is. Well,

00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:15.579
if you're canceled by America, we'll bring you

00:35:15.579 --> 00:35:18.010
back. All right. Fantastic. But we're still going

00:35:18.010 --> 00:35:20.190
to find something else to be counseled for, so

00:35:20.190 --> 00:35:22.150
we're ahead of you. Okay, dang it. We need to

00:35:22.150 --> 00:35:24.070
be one ahead of you at all times. You know, it's

00:35:24.070 --> 00:35:26.489
an interesting world we live in, all these social

00:35:26.489 --> 00:35:29.730
media platforms, that we feel like an inherent

00:35:29.730 --> 00:35:32.750
right to free speech on them because we're Americans,

00:35:32.909 --> 00:35:36.030
but we don't really. And they do control the

00:35:36.030 --> 00:35:38.409
message. And we've seen in the last administration,

00:35:38.630 --> 00:35:40.449
actually the government started to interfere

00:35:40.449 --> 00:35:44.599
as well with what these platforms do. they would

00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:46.280
have a say in the matter as well, which is super

00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:51.699
uncool. What are those files? The X files or

00:35:51.699 --> 00:35:53.239
whatever it was. Twitter files. Yeah, the Twitter

00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:56.880
files. But we don't really, at the end of the

00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:58.980
day, have a right. They can be like, hey, it's

00:35:58.980 --> 00:36:01.760
our platform. We will dictate the content that's

00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:03.679
on there. We will change the rules at any time

00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:07.179
we want. We want Erase to be super successful

00:36:07.179 --> 00:36:09.679
on YouTube, but we know there's certain things,

00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:13.019
certain topics that we can't talk about. And

00:36:13.019 --> 00:36:16.239
we abide by that for the most part. And if we

00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:18.079
do have something that we talk about, we know

00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:21.099
we have to edit it out. We already got a strike

00:36:21.099 --> 00:36:23.800
on us already. Wow. Yeah, already. We're a relatively

00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:26.559
new podcast. We got a strike on us. And we have

00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:30.119
to do massive biopsies of... large chunks of

00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:31.960
content, and it took like an hour and something

00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:35.039
video down to like 40 minutes. We lost like half

00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:37.960
an hour of that particular episode, just so we

00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:40.119
can abide by the term. It is communism. And it

00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:43.000
was the robots that were watching the show itself.

00:36:43.260 --> 00:36:44.219
We don't think we live in a communist country,

00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.500
but we do. In a way, we don't really have free

00:36:47.500 --> 00:36:49.780
speech. No, we don't. Well, we had the first

00:36:49.780 --> 00:36:52.380
chapter of the book, Embrace Masculinity on SorboStudios

00:36:52.380 --> 00:36:54.579
.com, is called The America Your Parents Knew.

00:36:54.940 --> 00:36:57.500
is dead is what is it it's dead the america your

00:36:57.500 --> 00:37:00.340
parents knew is dead okay and so there are i

00:37:00.340 --> 00:37:03.420
mean i just saw a stat that the average age for

00:37:03.420 --> 00:37:06.699
a home buyer in 1980 was 31 years old you know

00:37:06.699 --> 00:37:08.539
the average age for a home buyer in america today

00:37:08.539 --> 00:37:13.829
no 60. wow 60. yeah the american dream This idea

00:37:13.829 --> 00:37:16.489
of this capitalist paradise where you go and

00:37:16.489 --> 00:37:19.429
you work hard, you get a job, you go to school,

00:37:19.570 --> 00:37:21.670
you find a wife, you settle down, you have kids,

00:37:21.750 --> 00:37:24.010
and you support your family on a milkman's salary

00:37:24.010 --> 00:37:28.590
doesn't exist anymore. We don't live in a capitalist

00:37:28.590 --> 00:37:30.929
society anymore. We live in a corporate society.

00:37:31.269 --> 00:37:34.250
And what corporatism does, what this oligarchical

00:37:34.250 --> 00:37:39.369
system does, is it monopolizes industries where

00:37:39.369 --> 00:37:41.309
it becomes incredibly difficult for people to

00:37:41.309 --> 00:37:43.789
break out on their own. It becomes exceedingly

00:37:43.789 --> 00:37:46.210
harder and harder for people, especially in my

00:37:46.210 --> 00:37:48.610
age. And my age range is realizing that. That

00:37:48.610 --> 00:37:51.449
is why you have this mass shift in political

00:37:51.449 --> 00:37:54.530
ideologies from specifically Gen Z. I mean, Gen

00:37:54.530 --> 00:37:57.170
Z is the farthest right that any generation has

00:37:57.170 --> 00:38:00.110
ever experienced. Like, ever. Farthest from the

00:38:00.110 --> 00:38:02.150
right? Farthest to the right. Oh, really? Yes,

00:38:02.230 --> 00:38:04.090
yes. Specifically the young men and the young

00:38:04.090 --> 00:38:06.130
women are following suit. Thanks to Turning Point

00:38:06.130 --> 00:38:09.369
in no small way as well. It's big, big, like

00:38:09.369 --> 00:38:13.019
these big... people -led, not corporation -led

00:38:13.019 --> 00:38:15.780
movements, these grassroots movements that are

00:38:15.780 --> 00:38:18.699
kind of paving the way and allowing people to

00:38:18.699 --> 00:38:20.219
think for themselves. So Turning Point had the

00:38:20.219 --> 00:38:23.300
millennials. And I feel like after millennials

00:38:23.300 --> 00:38:25.260
is Gen Z. So Turning Point had all the millennials

00:38:25.260 --> 00:38:26.900
and they started getting the Gen Z and then the

00:38:26.900 --> 00:38:28.900
Gen Zers came along and were like, so we could

00:38:28.900 --> 00:38:31.760
do this even at a bigger scale. So let's go.

00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:34.039
I mean, you look at the Turning Point events,

00:38:34.099 --> 00:38:37.510
they have... 12 ,000 attendees. That's insane.

00:38:39.210 --> 00:38:41.869
And so it's showing this cultural shift. And

00:38:41.869 --> 00:38:45.230
day by day by day, people are coming to truth

00:38:45.230 --> 00:38:48.190
because they're being told not to. They're being

00:38:48.190 --> 00:38:50.530
told what to think. It's backfired. The messaging

00:38:50.530 --> 00:38:52.570
has backfired. Exactly. And so we were talking

00:38:52.570 --> 00:38:55.610
earlier about the $20 million project they're

00:38:55.610 --> 00:38:58.130
trying to launch called SAM, Speaking to the

00:38:58.130 --> 00:39:01.030
American Man. And they've hired an obese, queer

00:39:01.030 --> 00:39:04.599
Mexican woman to speak to. Gen Z men. I mean,

00:39:04.619 --> 00:39:06.639
that is probably the worst person you could have

00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:09.340
picked. Just saying, like, I don't think if anyone

00:39:09.340 --> 00:39:11.960
knows men, she would. I would assume you would

00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:13.599
want to pick a guy. But who do they have? David

00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:15.440
Hogg, Harry Sisson. Like, they have these guys

00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:17.340
who aren't really masculine. Yeah, David Hogg

00:39:17.340 --> 00:39:20.400
is a Democratic Party. He just got removed. Did

00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:22.920
he? He just got removed from the DNC co -chair.

00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:26.400
Wow. Yeah. So, but they're trying to do this.

00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:28.920
If you look through what they currently have

00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:30.820
proposed, now nothing's passed yet, nothing's

00:39:30.820 --> 00:39:32.900
in action, they haven't done it yet, but what

00:39:32.900 --> 00:39:34.719
they're currently proposing is essentially just

00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:37.719
astroturfing Reddit, which is just kind of bombarding

00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:40.199
it with messaging politically, saying, come to

00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:41.840
the left, we're friendly, we love you, and all

00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:43.639
this. But they've spent the past three decades

00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:45.840
telling men that they suck, that they're replaceable,

00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:47.480
that they're expendable, that they're idiots,

00:39:47.739 --> 00:39:50.039
and that they hate them for being manly, and

00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:52.380
now they're going, well, we actually like you

00:39:52.380 --> 00:39:55.780
now. Yeah. As if that works. It's like the Steve

00:39:55.780 --> 00:39:57.380
Buscemi clip of him walking through a high school.

00:39:57.420 --> 00:39:59.159
He goes, how do you do, fellow kids? And it's

00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:00.500
like, all right, you're clearly an undercover

00:40:00.500 --> 00:40:02.539
cop. You know what I mean? It's like, no one's

00:40:02.539 --> 00:40:05.320
falling for this. And so you have this kind of,

00:40:05.340 --> 00:40:09.059
ironically, a cancellation of the left by Gen

00:40:09.059 --> 00:40:12.059
Z. Because we've seen what happened to the generations

00:40:12.059 --> 00:40:13.960
before us. We saw what happened to you, to my

00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:16.159
parents, to Charlie Kirk, to Turning Point as

00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:18.079
a whole, to Riley Gaines, to all of these other

00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:21.320
people. Jordan Peterson, his first start was

00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:24.380
cancellation, right? We should have David Hogg

00:40:24.380 --> 00:40:26.780
on the show. Hey, you know what? He just got

00:40:26.780 --> 00:40:28.440
canceled from the DNC. It would work. Right?

00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:31.980
Would you? It'd be a good episode. It'd be a

00:40:31.980 --> 00:40:34.320
good episode. Man, don't let that guy hear it,

00:40:34.380 --> 00:40:37.739
son. Fair. But yeah, so you have effectively

00:40:37.739 --> 00:40:41.699
a cancellation from Gen Zers. towards the left.

00:40:41.780 --> 00:40:44.820
So cancellation is still going on as you see

00:40:44.820 --> 00:40:46.840
it. Because some people think with this new administration

00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:48.579
we're going to see less of it, cancellation is

00:40:48.579 --> 00:40:51.340
over. We don't think so. No. We think people

00:40:51.340 --> 00:40:54.500
are just waiting. They're ravenous. Well, like

00:40:54.500 --> 00:40:58.000
you just said, Instagram. Instagram is literally

00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:00.599
canceling people right now. Yeah. Right now.

00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:04.139
And we have a ding already on our show. It's

00:41:04.139 --> 00:41:06.639
still happening. Yeah, and I think that with

00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:09.349
AI, because it sounds like... the way you just

00:41:09.349 --> 00:41:12.190
said you uploaded it and it takes a second and

00:41:12.190 --> 00:41:15.489
then boom, it spits out to you. So AI is basically

00:41:15.489 --> 00:41:18.969
sensory. A lot of AI going on. AI is the robots

00:41:18.969 --> 00:41:22.809
are here. We talk about this future where the

00:41:22.809 --> 00:41:24.630
robots are controlling everything. It's here

00:41:24.630 --> 00:41:26.730
now. No, it's terrifying. This robot has read,

00:41:26.949 --> 00:41:31.110
has watched the show, the episode. Yes, in two

00:41:31.110 --> 00:41:33.610
seconds. Summarized it, deduced it, figured out

00:41:33.610 --> 00:41:36.679
the parts that it didn't like. Wrote back with

00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:39.179
the strike, told us exactly where the content

00:41:39.179 --> 00:41:42.380
that isn't in life. Right? Yeah, no, it's crazy.

00:41:42.420 --> 00:41:44.519
No human intervention. Terrible. It's kind of

00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:46.119
like the Terminator. It's really weird. It is.

00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:47.440
Well, it's the Terminator in the sense that if

00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:49.940
you've seen the new AI videos of people, they're

00:41:49.940 --> 00:41:53.019
making AI videos that are people talking. And

00:41:53.019 --> 00:41:55.219
they're looking more and more realistic. Two

00:41:55.219 --> 00:41:57.500
years ago. On Instagram, there's some super hot,

00:41:57.579 --> 00:42:00.590
you know. Not that I follow them, but I've heard.

00:42:00.710 --> 00:42:05.550
I've read articles. Do you want this shovel you

00:42:05.550 --> 00:42:08.010
just keep digging? Exactly. Can I follow a hot

00:42:08.010 --> 00:42:11.170
AI? That's acceptable, no? I don't know. You

00:42:11.170 --> 00:42:16.070
don't know? I'm not sure. It does add a moral

00:42:16.070 --> 00:42:18.090
dilemma, though. You have people on both sides,

00:42:18.110 --> 00:42:20.190
right and left, saying, well, AI porn is okay

00:42:20.190 --> 00:42:21.570
because no one's being hurt, and they're using

00:42:21.570 --> 00:42:23.889
it to justify child pornography as long as it's

00:42:23.889 --> 00:42:27.230
AI -generated. That's clearly wrong. Matt Fradd

00:42:27.230 --> 00:42:29.170
is another podcast host called Pints with Aquinas,

00:42:29.269 --> 00:42:31.710
and he was interviewing Dennis Prager. And Dennis

00:42:31.710 --> 00:42:34.190
Prager went on a rant about how, well, it's AI

00:42:34.190 --> 00:42:36.510
porn, so no one's being hurt, so it doesn't matter

00:42:36.510 --> 00:42:38.610
the age of the people in it. And so you have

00:42:38.610 --> 00:42:40.449
people on the left and the right. Dennis Prager

00:42:40.449 --> 00:42:42.670
advocated? Dennis Prager, yes. It's a whole clip

00:42:42.670 --> 00:42:45.510
on. It's insane. I know. Disappointing. Very

00:42:45.510 --> 00:42:47.909
disappointing. But I'm seeing it from both sides

00:42:47.909 --> 00:42:50.110
where people are all for AI. Cancel him and then

00:42:50.110 --> 00:42:53.690
have him on. There you go. That's our business

00:42:53.690 --> 00:42:58.110
model. We figured it out. If we can create cancellations

00:42:58.110 --> 00:43:00.849
and just have him come into our loving arms,

00:43:01.030 --> 00:43:04.050
we feel so bad for you. That's good. And they're

00:43:04.050 --> 00:43:05.250
explaining the whole story and you're sitting

00:43:05.250 --> 00:43:06.989
there knowing, well, yeah, we orchestrated it.

00:43:07.590 --> 00:43:10.769
But yeah, this AI thing is effectively going

00:43:10.769 --> 00:43:14.099
to cancel. any sort of video proof in courtrooms

00:43:14.099 --> 00:43:16.500
now because everything's fabricatable. You can

00:43:16.500 --> 00:43:18.599
make anything with AI. So it's only going to

00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:21.139
be eyewitness testimony again. So we are essentially

00:43:21.139 --> 00:43:23.599
screwing ourselves over as a society. You said

00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:25.920
Terminator. This is how Terminator started. I'm

00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:27.840
like, we have enough movies about this to know

00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:30.280
it's bad. Why do we keep doing it? I keep thinking

00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:33.460
about that AI robot. You know, we joke and be

00:43:33.460 --> 00:43:35.679
like, you know, it would be cool to have an AI

00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.239
robot. A humanoid. She wants a humanoid. And

00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:39.719
then I'm like, you know, I'm not sure that's

00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:42.400
going to be a good idea because... I'm sure I'll

00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:44.420
piss off this robot, and next thing you know,

00:43:44.420 --> 00:43:47.460
its hands are around my neck. Ex machina. You

00:43:47.460 --> 00:43:49.340
know what I mean? And that's it. It's over. You

00:43:49.340 --> 00:43:51.539
won't be stronger than a robot. No. Because they

00:43:51.539 --> 00:43:53.639
develop these personalities. With two fingers,

00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:55.920
they could squeeze your little neck. Yeah. Maybe

00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:58.079
that's a good idea. There's movies about it,

00:43:58.139 --> 00:43:59.960
too. So we know what happens with AI robots,

00:44:00.059 --> 00:44:01.840
and they're making it normal. And ironically,

00:44:02.019 --> 00:44:06.699
when we make AI robots, we're going to effectively

00:44:06.699 --> 00:44:09.159
ruin the dating market. We're going to, you know.

00:44:09.500 --> 00:44:12.349
You know, it's crazy. Ruined the dating market?

00:44:12.469 --> 00:44:14.650
Why? Well, the dating market's already ruined

00:44:14.650 --> 00:44:17.250
with mass pornography. The dating market's already

00:44:17.250 --> 00:44:17.849
been destroyed. You think people are going to

00:44:17.849 --> 00:44:21.250
marry robots? Yes. We have effectively canceled

00:44:21.250 --> 00:44:24.789
masculinity nationwide. Young men don't approach

00:44:24.789 --> 00:44:27.190
women. 45 % of 18 to 25 -year -olds have never

00:44:27.190 --> 00:44:29.570
approached a woman in real life. 45%. What do

00:44:29.570 --> 00:44:31.809
they do? They go home and watch porn because

00:44:31.809 --> 00:44:33.170
the girl on the screen is not going to reject

00:44:33.170 --> 00:44:36.230
them. They can pay a girl on OnlyFans $100 a

00:44:36.230 --> 00:44:39.050
minute or $200 or whatever for an hour to get

00:44:39.050 --> 00:44:40.690
that girl to say and do the things they want.

00:44:41.050 --> 00:44:44.769
But in person, they risk rejection. They're taught

00:44:44.769 --> 00:44:48.210
online through all of this messaging that if

00:44:48.210 --> 00:44:51.150
they're in the gym. And they look up while they're

00:44:51.150 --> 00:44:52.650
in the middle of a, you know, after they finish

00:44:52.650 --> 00:44:54.309
a set. And they happen to glimpse in the direction

00:44:54.309 --> 00:44:56.329
of a girl with a tripod. Cancelation. 500 ,000

00:44:56.329 --> 00:44:57.909
people immediately attacking him in the comments.

00:44:58.010 --> 00:44:59.590
Where does he live? Someone get this pervert

00:44:59.590 --> 00:45:01.809
out of this gym. Ban him. So guys, don't talk

00:45:01.809 --> 00:45:03.409
to girls at gyms. They go, this is just not worth

00:45:03.409 --> 00:45:05.250
it. Girls will tell their horror stories about

00:45:05.250 --> 00:45:07.190
dating a guy who approached them at a bar. And

00:45:07.190 --> 00:45:08.269
it's like, it's the worst thing ever. And this

00:45:08.269 --> 00:45:09.610
is why you never approach a guy at a bar. And

00:45:09.610 --> 00:45:11.449
so guys are watching that. And subjectively,

00:45:11.469 --> 00:45:13.940
they're... They're subconsciously learning to

00:45:13.940 --> 00:45:16.199
not approach at bars. They're learning not to

00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:18.300
approach. Is this all in your book? Yes. Wow.

00:45:18.460 --> 00:45:19.920
So I talk about all of these things. What's in

00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:22.260
your book again? Embrace Masculinity. SorboStudios

00:45:22.260 --> 00:45:24.800
.com. SorboStudios .com. Embrace Masculinity.

00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:28.340
There's this subconscious cancelization of everything

00:45:28.340 --> 00:45:30.780
that we once thought we knew. And so young men

00:45:30.780 --> 00:45:33.599
are not approaching people anymore. Young women

00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:35.900
are. pissed off about it because they would love

00:45:35.900 --> 00:45:37.440
to. There's plenty of young girls I know who

00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:39.559
want to get married. But unfortunately, the market

00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:42.059
has been so saturated with pornography that it's

00:45:42.059 --> 00:45:45.139
made people unable to form bonds with each other.

00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:48.380
They can't connect. And then even if they want

00:45:48.380 --> 00:45:52.099
to connect, they're too afraid to try. Jeez.

00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:54.739
I never thought about that. And I just realized

00:45:54.739 --> 00:45:56.440
while we're sitting here, you know, we think

00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:58.300
about this future where the robots are controlling

00:45:58.300 --> 00:46:01.039
everything. But this actually may be the step

00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:04.289
to make that happen where the AI... decides who

00:46:04.289 --> 00:46:07.329
they want to cancel, creates the content, puts

00:46:07.329 --> 00:46:09.670
it out there and knows exactly what's going to

00:46:09.670 --> 00:46:11.789
happen, how the masses are going to react and

00:46:11.789 --> 00:46:13.949
take people down like that. That could happen

00:46:13.949 --> 00:46:17.110
today. You can make an AI video of someone online

00:46:17.110 --> 00:46:19.650
saying the N -word and that person's career is

00:46:19.650 --> 00:46:22.230
ruined. Done. And how does that person prove

00:46:22.230 --> 00:46:23.750
that it wasn't them? It's clearly them in the

00:46:23.750 --> 00:46:26.289
video. When AI gets to the point where it's indistinguishable,

00:46:26.429 --> 00:46:30.050
we are in trouble. Even when it's proven that

00:46:30.050 --> 00:46:34.400
it wasn't. The damage is so bad that there's

00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.639
no coverage of the aftermath that actually was

00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:39.400
fake. That happened to Alan Dershowitz. It did.

00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:43.340
It happens all the time with sexual assault allegations.

00:46:43.380 --> 00:46:45.619
The lacrosse players from Duke, remember the

00:46:45.619 --> 00:46:47.219
prostitute accused five lacrosse players from

00:46:47.219 --> 00:46:48.619
Duke. They immediately lost their scholarship.

00:46:48.679 --> 00:46:50.679
They went through like a year of trials. The

00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:52.719
lacrosse player eventually said, or the prostitute

00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:54.239
came out and said, all right, I made it up. It's

00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:55.980
too late. Their lives were ruined. They can't

00:46:55.980 --> 00:46:58.840
do anything anymore. So what you said is perfect

00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:00.559
because... They're going to make a video. Someone

00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:01.900
will make a video of someone saying something

00:47:01.900 --> 00:47:03.659
or doing something. I want to take somebody down.

00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:06.280
They'll post it. And then by the time that damage

00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:10.039
control has been spread out and we've kind of

00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:12.679
netted the fire, everything's burned already.

00:47:12.860 --> 00:47:15.840
And the other part of it is the person who is

00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:19.139
being damaged doesn't get a voice. Yes. They

00:47:19.139 --> 00:47:21.719
can't even say, that wasn't me. I never did that.

00:47:22.869 --> 00:47:25.130
Because, you know, the media doesn't let you

00:47:25.130 --> 00:47:27.130
speak. Yes. No, they don't. Because if you were

00:47:27.130 --> 00:47:29.730
deemed as, you know, I don't know what trigger

00:47:29.730 --> 00:47:32.590
words, a Yahtzee. If the media calls you a Yahtzee,

00:47:32.630 --> 00:47:33.949
you're not going to get a platform. They're not

00:47:33.949 --> 00:47:35.789
going to bring on you. What's a Yahtzee? It's

00:47:35.789 --> 00:47:37.469
replaced Y with an N. I don't know if you could

00:47:37.469 --> 00:47:39.030
say that on YouTube. Oh, okay, I understand.

00:47:39.070 --> 00:47:41.650
Like Germany, 1940s. Yahtzee, got it. Like if

00:47:41.650 --> 00:47:44.110
you're called a Yahtzee or, you know, HH Youth

00:47:44.110 --> 00:47:47.349
or whatever, like who's going to have you on?

00:47:47.469 --> 00:47:49.440
They're not going to risk. platforming someone

00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:53.179
who's a murdering supporter or whatever. They

00:47:53.179 --> 00:47:55.940
wouldn't do that. So the second you are designated

00:47:55.940 --> 00:48:01.300
as something that is below subhuman, you can't

00:48:01.300 --> 00:48:02.780
do anything. It sort of happened to us because

00:48:02.780 --> 00:48:06.440
we were, before our controversy, we were Miami's

00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:09.019
most philanthropic power couple. Really? Yeah.

00:48:09.139 --> 00:48:12.480
Only good things. Only good things. Doing good

00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:15.960
things for humanity and the world. Took a different

00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:18.619
position on the you -know -whats during COVID.

00:48:23.059 --> 00:48:26.000
And that makes the narrative change completely.

00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:28.900
And we were vilified online. Well, we've seen

00:48:28.900 --> 00:48:32.340
people who were good at heart. People are nasty.

00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:34.400
And you see people who are good at heart. Like

00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:36.219
you said, philanthropic. You have people who

00:48:36.219 --> 00:48:38.639
have charities, who do good things, who are beloved

00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:40.480
by their community. And they come out with one

00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:43.400
stance that the left or the media decides, no.

00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:47.860
that person's life ruined or attacked at the

00:48:47.860 --> 00:48:49.800
very least. But I could totally see a future

00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:53.179
where it's way worse because now you've got a

00:48:53.179 --> 00:48:56.480
whole AI engine behind it. Oh, my gosh. Basically

00:48:56.480 --> 00:49:00.719
drumming up the drama, creating fake news. You

00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:03.420
showed me a video that one of our friends made

00:49:03.420 --> 00:49:06.880
for her mom, and it was so realistic. It even

00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.980
sounded like her, and it certainly looked like

00:49:09.980 --> 00:49:12.519
her. But it wasn't her. It wasn't her voice.

00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:15.179
She just AI'd a voice over her. Her image, I

00:49:15.179 --> 00:49:16.760
guess, and then it three -dimensionalized it.

00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:17.699
Yeah, she took her image, and then she took,

00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:19.900
but it looked like it was her saying. Yeah, first

00:49:19.900 --> 00:49:21.300
generation. I'm sure it's just only going to

00:49:21.300 --> 00:49:22.860
get better. And I'm sure. That's the thing, is

00:49:22.860 --> 00:49:25.159
it will only improve. I mean, it's been two years

00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:27.539
since we started getting AI videos, and they're

00:49:27.539 --> 00:49:31.079
indistinguishable from real people now to certain

00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:33.800
people. Like, you take someone who's a little

00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:35.860
bit older, like a grandparent's generation, the,

00:49:35.900 --> 00:49:39.820
you know, whatever was Buff Boomer's, Gen Alpha.

00:49:40.619 --> 00:49:42.840
Baby boomers? Baby boomers, maybe the greatest

00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:44.139
generation, the silent generation, something

00:49:44.139 --> 00:49:45.340
like that. They're not going to be able to tell.

00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:47.219
Someone sends them a video of someone that looks

00:49:47.219 --> 00:49:49.039
like their granddaughter going, Grandpa, I need

00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:50.840
help. I'm stuck here. Can you please send me

00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:53.500
money? Her mother to this day thinks that that

00:49:53.500 --> 00:49:56.420
video was actually real and she was there even

00:49:56.420 --> 00:49:59.539
at the moment when it was made. Yeah, but that's

00:49:59.539 --> 00:50:03.320
the thing. With it only getting better. You have

00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:04.900
people, I mean, I've seen videos where someone

00:50:04.900 --> 00:50:06.400
will go, which one's real or AI? And they'll

00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:07.840
be holding two things. They'll have like a mug

00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:09.619
and another mug in their hand. And then this

00:50:09.619 --> 00:50:11.219
mug will fade out and it's just this mug. And

00:50:11.219 --> 00:50:13.599
you couldn't tell which one was real or AI. So

00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:16.079
it's only getting better. And that's scary. Cancelization

00:50:16.079 --> 00:50:16.980
is going to become mainstream. So the point is

00:50:16.980 --> 00:50:20.840
AI is going to be the future. Cancelation has

00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:23.019
not gone away. And AI is only going to make it

00:50:23.019 --> 00:50:24.699
worse. You heard it here. That's our prediction,

00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:27.360
right? What can we do about it? How can we stop

00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:31.840
it? How do you stop this train? Well, the people

00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:34.099
who are creating the AI don't want to stop because

00:50:34.099 --> 00:50:37.840
it's innovation. If you throttle freedom of expression,

00:50:38.019 --> 00:50:40.839
if you throttle the innovation behind it... then

00:50:40.839 --> 00:50:42.940
people are less likely to want to innovate because

00:50:42.940 --> 00:50:44.800
the last time someone did, he got in trouble

00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:46.579
for it, and then you're canceling someone for

00:50:46.579 --> 00:50:48.280
doing it anyway, like preemptively. It's like

00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:50.619
the morality question is a preemptive strike

00:50:50.619 --> 00:50:53.559
in war morally justified. And so you have to

00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:55.360
look at a case -by -case designation because

00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:58.500
yes, sometimes it is, and no, sometimes it isn't.

00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:01.860
Say you have a bad guy who's going to put a bunch

00:51:01.860 --> 00:51:04.579
of beagle puppies in a cage and let flies eat

00:51:04.579 --> 00:51:06.360
them. You might want to stop him before he does

00:51:06.360 --> 00:51:08.940
that. He has a track record of doing that. You

00:51:08.940 --> 00:51:11.179
might want to... Maybe prevent that from happening.

00:51:11.300 --> 00:51:13.079
But you have someone who hasn't done anything

00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:16.260
yet. Are you really morally justified to put

00:51:16.260 --> 00:51:18.219
a stop to it, even if you know what they're going

00:51:18.219 --> 00:51:23.079
to do? How do we stop the Terminator? How did

00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:24.260
they do it in the movie? They threw him in a

00:51:24.260 --> 00:51:25.960
lava pit, right? Is that what it was? Like a

00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:28.280
machine -pressed lava pit or something? Hydraulic?

00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:31.659
Building a lava pit. Every house. Oh, no. Another

00:51:31.659 --> 00:51:34.019
project. Every house has to have a lava pool

00:51:34.019 --> 00:51:37.780
now. And then we have to monetize it also because

00:51:37.780 --> 00:51:39.780
we don't actually need it for, who knows, maybe

00:51:39.780 --> 00:51:43.539
decades. See, now we have to do another project.

00:51:43.539 --> 00:51:46.780
We could get a tax write -off. Not a bad idea,

00:51:46.780 --> 00:51:49.860
though. Anybody who wants to get involved in

00:51:49.860 --> 00:51:51.519
this one, we're going to crowdsource investment

00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:56.179
into our lava pit. Not a bad idea. Okay, well.

00:51:56.519 --> 00:51:59.539
So where do things stand now? Things are on the

00:51:59.539 --> 00:52:04.099
up and up. Are you acting? Yes, so I'm doing

00:52:04.099 --> 00:52:05.599
a little bit of acting. My latest movie is called

00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:07.440
I Feel Fine. It's streaming on Amazon and Paramount.

00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:09.940
It's a heavy drama. It deals with suicide, mental

00:52:09.940 --> 00:52:12.079
awareness, health, things like that. What do

00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:14.599
you play? I play the supporting lead. I play

00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:16.340
one of the character's best friends. And I'm

00:52:16.340 --> 00:52:18.400
not necessarily a nice guy. I will preface it.

00:52:18.460 --> 00:52:20.079
I had so much fun playing that role. That was

00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:22.679
so great. We filmed it in Buchanan, West Virginia,

00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:25.800
a town of like 5 ,000 people, maybe. 3 ,000 of

00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:27.639
which are at the local college there. So there's

00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:30.980
nobody there. And the only restaurant in town

00:52:30.980 --> 00:52:33.000
was like a Buffalo Wild Wings. It's hilarious.

00:52:33.260 --> 00:52:34.960
It's kind of fun. Miserable eating that every

00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:38.099
single day, we'll say. Can't go back. But. It

00:52:38.099 --> 00:52:40.840
was a great movie. It's been up for numerous

00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:44.659
awards. It's streaming now, like I said. So next

00:52:44.659 --> 00:52:47.119
up in the pipeline, not sure, still auditioning,

00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:48.639
still going around, but doing a lot of public

00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:50.400
speaking. I'm flying out actually right after

00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:53.619
this recording, going to Virginia, speaking at

00:52:53.619 --> 00:52:55.940
Liberty University. You know, I believe your

00:52:55.940 --> 00:52:58.539
initial vision of growing this social media platform,

00:52:58.739 --> 00:53:01.179
which will then be the vehicle for getting roles.

00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:04.420
well -paying roles, I think that is still intact.

00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:07.119
Even though they canceled the crap out of you,

00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:09.800
I really believe in that. I'm so proud of you.

00:53:09.940 --> 00:53:12.920
Thank you. You were very clear on your intentions.

00:53:13.059 --> 00:53:16.059
You took a stand. You never, ever backed down.

00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:20.380
And you doubled down on your vision at the end

00:53:20.380 --> 00:53:22.059
of the day. And I really think it's going to

00:53:22.059 --> 00:53:24.500
turn out great. I see a very bright future for

00:53:24.500 --> 00:53:27.039
you. Thank you. I appreciate it. And to any viewers

00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:29.159
who might be seeing themselves struggling with

00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:31.699
even minor cancellation, Let that be a lesson,

00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:34.280
right? Don't back down to what you know is inherently

00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:37.199
true. Every single guest has said the same message.

00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:39.699
Fight, fight, fight. Every single one of them

00:53:39.699 --> 00:53:42.280
has said the same thing. And some people were

00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:45.420
hardwired that way. Anything to the contrary

00:53:45.420 --> 00:53:47.980
was never even an option. Some people had to

00:53:47.980 --> 00:53:50.179
go through a process, a journey to get to that

00:53:50.179 --> 00:53:52.719
point. But it's worth it. You have to do it.

00:53:52.739 --> 00:53:54.239
You have to do it not just for yourself, but

00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:55.820
you have to set an example for others. Because

00:53:55.820 --> 00:53:58.079
if you don't, then it's just going to embolden

00:53:58.079 --> 00:53:59.219
the other side and they're just going to keep

00:53:59.219 --> 00:54:01.260
going at it more and more and more. And we cannot

00:54:01.260 --> 00:54:03.400
allow that to happen. No, we can't. And let it,

00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:06.719
right? That's proof. And you utilize, you know,

00:54:06.780 --> 00:54:09.760
talk to God, pray, meditate, do whatever you

00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:12.539
need to do to help. You get through that. Because

00:54:12.539 --> 00:54:14.239
once you get through it and you get to the other

00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:17.400
side, the other side you feel so much stronger.

00:54:17.539 --> 00:54:19.179
You're better for it. And you're better for it.

00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:21.000
And that's the truth. And at the end of the day,

00:54:21.019 --> 00:54:25.059
like, I feel like we're here in this world. Why

00:54:25.059 --> 00:54:26.719
not make a difference and do something special

00:54:26.719 --> 00:54:29.239
with it? Instead of, you know, playing Switzerland

00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:31.699
and being totally neutral all the time. Yeah,

00:54:31.699 --> 00:54:34.820
exactly. So as you know, this show is about being

00:54:34.820 --> 00:54:39.780
erased. And we are here to allow people. to use

00:54:39.780 --> 00:54:41.920
their voice to share their side of the story

00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:43.239
because people don't get to share their side

00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:45.219
of the story. So how did you enjoy being on?

00:54:45.300 --> 00:54:47.480
What did you think of this show? I thought it

00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:48.920
was great. It was nice to be able to just sort

00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:51.079
of let loose, speak my mind. I mean, it's not

00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:52.860
that I don't already speak my mind, but it was

00:54:52.860 --> 00:54:56.380
nice to be able to go in depth on the cancellation.

00:54:57.719 --> 00:55:00.260
sort of how it affected me and obviously my family

00:55:00.260 --> 00:55:02.659
around me and then how I overcame it. And I hope

00:55:02.659 --> 00:55:04.960
that it stands as a testimony to other people

00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:07.340
that they can go through similar things and come

00:55:07.340 --> 00:55:09.139
out stronger and better because of it. Do you

00:55:09.139 --> 00:55:11.840
feel a little teary -eyed at all in any way?

00:55:12.300 --> 00:55:15.679
When I was talking about the kid who was struggling

00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:17.619
with depression, that's when I get the most emotional.

00:55:18.010 --> 00:55:19.429
You made me emotional for that too. I got a little

00:55:19.429 --> 00:55:21.289
teary eyed too. Good, good. I do. You said the

00:55:21.289 --> 00:55:23.949
word suicide and my eyes just watered up. And

00:55:23.949 --> 00:55:26.309
how, are your parents proud of you? I would like

00:55:26.309 --> 00:55:29.329
to think so. You know, I can only hope. But yes,

00:55:29.449 --> 00:55:32.570
I'm blessed to have been given those parents

00:55:32.570 --> 00:55:34.989
and they're very supportive and they encourage

00:55:34.989 --> 00:55:38.469
me every step of the way. Amazing. Well, thank

00:55:38.469 --> 00:55:40.889
you so much for coming on our show. We enjoyed

00:55:40.889 --> 00:55:44.590
our time today. Embrace Masculinity. Yes. Yes,

00:55:44.590 --> 00:55:46.869
it sounds like a great book. I know you had one

00:55:46.869 --> 00:55:49.250
but somebody like, I had one copy left. Took

00:55:49.250 --> 00:55:50.809
it from you. And it got shipped this morning

00:55:50.809 --> 00:55:52.849
without my knowledge. Is it on Kindle by any

00:55:52.849 --> 00:55:55.670
chance? Not yet. I'm working on getting the Kindle

00:55:55.670 --> 00:55:57.429
published. But I'll be sure to get you guys a

00:55:57.429 --> 00:56:00.349
copy. I can't wait to read it. Maybe I can get

00:56:00.349 --> 00:56:02.909
a little more masculine as a result. You're super

00:56:02.909 --> 00:56:07.570
masculine already. Maybe I can contribute a review.

00:56:07.889 --> 00:56:10.510
Love it. Thank you, Brayden. Thank you. Thank

00:56:10.510 --> 00:56:10.909
you for your time.