I told jokes about every race, class, ethnicity
that you could imagine. Because if I'm only telling
jokes about a specific group, then yeah, people
can go, well, that's problematic. But I left
nobody out of bounds for the sake of proving
that anything can be a joke. Like a Jewish joke?
Yes, like a Jewish joke, like a white joke, like
a Christian joke, like a Hindu joke. Nothing
off limits. Everybody can be joked about, and
if you can take jokes, it proves that you are
comfortable in your own skin. This is going to
be a super fun show. You're going to like this
show. I intentionally didn't debrief you so much
because you love this topic. We have Braden Sorbo.
He is a victim of Chinese cancellation. TikTok
superstar influencer with a huge following and
growing like crazy. Great content. Super funny.
Made the wrong joke, really small, got the attention
of the authorities at ByteDance and, I'm sure,
the Chinese government, and went from that to,
like, close to nothing. Shadowbanned him like
crazy. Great to have you on our show, Braden.
Well, thanks for having me. I'm excited to be
here. You're welcome. Yeah. I see why you were
hiding. You were hiding him. This is a really,
really interesting show. We haven't had a guest
like you before, and it's really, really cool.
Let's give you a little background. You're from
an acting family and it's even more interesting
than what I just said because he's second generation
cancel victim. Oh wow. Yeah, and so tell us a
little about your family and your family background.
Yeah, so I'm I think third generation or Norwegian
and second generation cancel. So I'm not sure
what exactly balance that makes me. But I come
from a family of actors. My dad is Kevin Sorbo.
He played Hercules on TV and a bunch of other
things. And so when I was born in 2001 and growing
up, the first seven or eight years of my life,
I lived on Hollywood sets, going to these big
extravagant productions and seeing both sides
of the camera. And I fell in love with acting.
And I remember around the time I turned eight
-ish, my dad got canceled. from hollywood and
so because of his conservative and christian
stance and viewpoints on being pro -life and
wanting america first free speech and the values
that inherently define this country hollywood
decided that they didn't want to work with him
anymore and so i went from going on these crazy
sets and falling in love with the movie industry
to realizing at such a young age how dangerous
and volatile it can be how bad did it get for
the family i mean he was out of work like was
it like a light switch no So he suffered three
strokes during filming Hercules, which not a
lot of people know about. And he wrote two books
on it. And so he was always doing public speaking.
And basically the second Hollywood said, we're
done with you, the independent film industry
said, please come work with us. And so he immediately,
it was like a switch. Things didn't get bad per
se. They just changed. And so I went from seeing,
like I said, the extravagant lights and action,
the red carpet, to these little independent movies
that they're filming with a couple million dollars.
And a lot of people watching this will hear that
and go. A couple million dollars is a lot of
money, but not to Hollywood. That's the whole
budget, isn't it? That's the whole budget. To
Hollywood, $5 million is catering. Yeah. Right?
Pirates of the Caribbean is a $300 million movie
that they spend another $100 million in P &A.
And so for an independent film to raise $2 to
$5 million is so hard, and it's barely enough
to squeak something by. And I remember watching
that, but still being in love with the Hollywood
world. And so I decided when I was 11 that I
wanted to be an actor myself. And my parents
tried to talk me out of it just because, clearly,
they didn't like the world themselves. I eventually
whittled them down and they signed me up for
acting classes. And I got my first movie at 14
years old, a movie called Let There Be Light,
which was an independent film. It was a drama.
It's a fantastic movie. And I remember that was
sort of... where everything sunk in. Was it religious
based? It was, yes. It was like family friendly,
Christian, and drama, everything. Feature film?
Feature film, yes. So it was in theaters. We
opened second to Thor Ragnarok. Wow. Dollar for
dollar per screen average. And so we did exceedingly
well with it. But when you have so little money
to promote a film, the word of mouth is all that
you can hope to achieve its success with. And
so the independent film movies really took off
with, do you guys remember God's Not Dead? No.
It's like a $2 million budget. It made $140 million
worldwide. Wow. So it is top five of all time
movies in Hollywood grossing dollar for dollar.
And so that was what kind of catapulted the independent
film scene into, yes, because of its success,
it proved that you don't have to have a $500
million Hollywood movie with a star -speckled
cast. is, you know, riddled for success that's
going to guarantee that you're going to be profitable.
It proves that you can make something even with
a small budget and still have success to a degree.
And so that gave me hope that the Hollywood world,
my dream, essentially wasn't inherently gone
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Right? I like to think so. You have really cool
parents. Thank you. Yeah, so I grew up on that
side of witnessing how cancel culture can affect
somebody firsthand. And so I took it upon myself
to realize that and to learn how to best navigate
the kind of waves. Whether it be politics, religion,
or entertainment, there are always going to be
stigmas, and there are always going to be aggressors,
there's going to be prey and predators, and people
will be saying things that are wrong, saying
things that are right, and being attacked the
same. And so I learned from a very young age
that the best way to deal with the cancel culture
in the world is to not back down, is to refuse
to withdraw. And so... When I started my social
media, I was a senior in high school. I was 18
years old. And I said, you know, I want to do
TikTok, but I don't want to dance shirtless or
lip sync videos. Like I'm straight. I'm just
not into all that stuff. And so I started telling
jokes, politically incorrect, dark comedy, things
like that. Because the biggest... attack in our
culture overall has been an attack on comedy
and masculinity, which is what I wrote a book
about. I'll shout it out right now. It's called
Embrace Masculinity. Embrace Masculinity. It's
a new book. Yes, it just came out last month.
So it's called Embrace Masculinity, Lifting Men
Up in a World That Pushes Them Down. It's essentially
a guide. Do you have a website where it's on?
Sorbo Studios. SorboStudios .com. Yes. And so
that book... Was sort of the catalyst for me.
How old are you? 23. So this is my second book.
You're so young, and I love it. Your parents
must be so proud of you. Thank you. I appreciate
it. Yeah, so I've been blessed to do 11 movies,
2 dates, and 2 books at 23 years old. So I'm
very lucky. This is your second book? This is
my second book, yes. What was the first book?
Called The B .S. Braden Sorbo Guide to Politics.
It's a sarcastic political dictionary. Once again,
in that joke vein. And so trying to bring humor
to the political sphere, as dark as it may be.
But the Embrace Masculinity book was my most
serious project to date. And it really stands
as a testament to my foundation of truth. Because
inherently, in every individual, man or woman,
there is truth. We know, right or wrong, whether
or not the people watching this are religious,
Paul writes in Romans 1, that the law is written
on the hearts of man. So we have an inherent...
idea that murder is wrong and we shouldn't just
go around stabbing people for fun. That's not
a good thing, right? So we know the differences
fundamentally of good and bad. And so the book
aims to explore that and lift people up so that
they feel confident defending that. Because what
we see in this world today is morality has become
flexible and morality has become subjective.
What I might think is wrong, you will say is
right. And then it becomes a battle of, well,
this is my opinion and this is my opinion and
no one can tell anyone. differently and so in
dealing with that and in starting my social media
telling jokes i realized that inherently truth
and the freedom of expression that we have had
in this country has been taken for granted. And
because of it, it has slowly been eroded away
over decades and decades. I mean, we were talking
before the show how in the 70s, they started
pushing this narrative of, well, men, get in
touch with your feelings. And then the men did.
And they were ridiculed for it. They said, we
want a sensitive man. And so the man opened up.
And they said, you're a loser. You're a fragile,
weak victim. You're useless. And then they told
the women, women, act like men. And then the
women looked to the worst possible examples of
men and said, I'm going to be the aggressive,
overbearing bad guy. And so we've destroyed fundamentally
the values that have defined what it means to
be American, what it means to live in this country.
And so growing up watching all of this, I realized
that something had to be done. And we have a
lot of great voices. in this country. We have
plenty of amazing people who are taking a stand,
who are making a fight, who've been canceled.
You look at Riley Gaines, the swimmer. You look
at Charlie Kirk with Turning Point. Charlie will
be here on Friday. Yes, that's why. It's perfect.
Perfect window, because you mentioned. So you
look at these people, but you don't have someone
in Gen Z. You don't have someone under the age
of 25. And that is why I decided I've already
been canceled a few times, which we'll talk about
more. I've already grown up in this world. Why
not me? If I can survive one or two cancellations,
I can survive them all. We've survived three.
Exactly. So I'm on track to surpass you, hopefully.
Two so far. It's on. We've got a competition.
Well, we've got you, so he doesn't have a chance.
I overheard him telling you while he didn't think
I was listening that I'm the big mouth. Only
in the best way. Fine. I accept it. Okay. So
you started this TikTok. TikTok was your primary.
Did you do the others as well or you just focused
on TikTok? So I started TikTok primarily. I wanted
to grow the others, but being as, you know, I
don't do the shirtless content and I don't do
all that stuff, the thirst trapping. I do shirtless
content. For our followers. This is what I need.
This is where the second half of the show is.
David underscore Settner for all my shirtless
content. Well, see, I do the gym stuff now. That's
actually true. Yeah, I do the gym stuff now.
You plugged your Instagram. I'll plug mine. If
you want to follow me on my Instagram, Layla
Settner. I don't do shirtless content. That's
good. But you might want to bring a pillow because
you're probably going to get a little sleepy.
It's true. It's true. It's very simple. I do
the fitness content now, but I started with just
comedy and I started mainly on TikTok. Growing
up in the Hollywood family, I decided I wanted
to prove to myself because you hear claims of
nepotism in all of this your entire life. And
so I decided I'm going to start my TikTok without
anything other than my first name. And so it
was Brayden, maybe Brayden S for until I had
about 500 ,000 followers. And once I reached
that milestone, I went, okay, time to develop
my brand. I've proven I can do it myself. And
so at this point, people could say whatever they
want to me, but I've established my own name
separate from my parents with the hopes of growing
even bigger than they ever did. And that is where
I stand now. I've expanded to other platforms.
I have a show called BS with Braden Sorbo where
I do YouTube commentary content, stuff like that.
Very short form podcast -esque videos. I have
Instagram where I do fitness content. That's
where my shirtless stuff is. That's where the
shirtless stuff is. Exactly. The son of Hercules.
I'm a quarter demigod, I think, is how that works.
Yes, you kind of have to, yes. And your mom's
pretty amazing too. Yes, she is. But that expansion
really helped me kind of... narrow down and hone
in on exactly what my message was. And so now
I have this message of lifting people up with
traditional virtues and values. Let's go to the...
Yeah, that's what I want. Go to the first cancellation.
Explain what happened. You're figuring it out.
What did you even say? You're figuring out your
voice. You're figuring out your voice and it's
growing and you're probably refining and tinkering
as you go along and everything's working and
it got really big. How big did it get? So I want
to say that I was almost to a million followers.
I was at about 900 ,000 followers at the time
of my first cancellation. And this was maybe
2020 during the Hong Kong riots when China was
sort of oppressing Hong Kong. And they had the
people fighting the rooftop Koreans and the people
in Hong Kong fighting against the CCP. And I
remember doing a joke because all my jokes were
less than 60 seconds. I would sit down. I'd set
my phone up. And I would talk to the camera.
I would tell a joke. And then I would end the
video. That was it. But people loved it. My third
ever video blew up. I just, because I loved the
public speaking. Do you remember that joke on
the third video? Oh my gosh. I wish I did. It's
so far back. Yeah, get it in B -roll. Maybe you
can find it, send it to us, and we'll put it
up. Okay. Sounds good. Yeah, so I remember I
would tell all these jokes, and my third ever
video blew up. Because my first video had 10
views. My second video had 100. I was going,
100 views is pretty good. Second video, 30 ,000
views in an hour. I went, oh. That's awesome.
And then from that point on, I would average
roughly 100 ,000 to 500 ,000 views on every video.
Wow. One video a day for the next six months
to a year. Wow. And gaining 500 ,000 followers
a month. So by the time I was almost to a million
followers, the Hong Kong riots were going on,
and I told jokes about everything. I told jokes
about every race, class. class, ethnicity, that
you could imagine. Because if I'm only telling
jokes about a specific group, then yeah, people
can go, well, that's problematic. But I left
nobody out of bounds for the sake of proving
that anything can be a joke. Like a Jewish joke?
Yes, like a Jewish joke, like a white joke, like
a Christian joke, like a Hindu joke. Nothing
off limits. Everybody can be joked about, and
if you can take jokes, it proves that you are
comfortable in your own skin. That's my whole
premise is jokes are good because they define
us. They refine us and they strengthen us. And
so I can look at someone make a joke about me
being tall. You don't know how many times I've
heard, how's the weather up there? You would
think that eventually it would get annoying or
you can come up with a funny response back, right?
That is what you get to decide is your reaction
to what someone else says to you, right? And
so I told jokes about everything. And then I
finally told the joke about Hong Kong. And I
said, I have a buddy in Hong Kong. And I asked
him, what he thinks about what China's doing
with the protests and the government overreach
and all that. He goes, he can't complain. That
was kind of funny. That was it. It took, it wasn't
even. That's so short. It wasn't even. The shortest
joke ever. It's not even like a stellar joke.
It's not even something that, you know, you put
on Joe Rogan or whatever. It's a dad joke. It's
a dad joke. Two minutes. That video was up before
it got taken down. Two minutes. Wow. It got 30
,000 views. I remember because I stay on for
the first couple minutes just refreshing to make
sure everything's working properly. It got up
to 30 ,000 views in two minutes and bow, down.
Every video I posted after that pulled off. Deleted.
Community guidelines violation for hate speech.
I told jokes about everything else. Anything
else. Not one hate speech violation because I
wasn't hateful with my jokes. People could tell
that I wasn't being serious. They just understood
that what I was saying was funny. That was it.
There was no deeper meaning other than, ha ha
ha, move on to the next video. Do you think it
was a computer that heard the joke? Or they have
millions of people that sit in rooms listening
to content. It depends because when you get to
a point where you have hundreds of thousands
of followers, you're watched and held under a
microscope because there's more eyes on you.
So if you're an account with 10 followers...
They might get to what you post, but it's going
to take them a while because your account doesn't
really matter. But if you have a million followers.
And just for our audience, TikTok is owned by
a company called ByteDance, which is a China
-based company. And in China, all the tech companies
have a seat at the table, at the very least,
by the Chinese government. It's not actually
owning a majority of the company. So very, very
Chinese. Very, very heavy Chinese government,
you know. Precedence is set and so my account
was under scrutiny just because it was a larger
account So everything I said was held under a
microscope I just had a great fan base that loved
what I was posting so that I wouldn't have to
worry about You know being taken down immediately
at least right away without I'd had a couple
violations I'd been on live streams where I made
some jokes or said an Algorithmic trigger word
and so they would pause my live stream band me
for a week stuff like that But nothing to the
point where what followed which I think your
audience will find interesting is I went from
averaging 100 to 500 ,000 views per video within
24 hours of posting. So I'd post a day later,
go back half a million views. I gained 10 ,000
followers. Huge. Were you making money at this
point? I was making a little bit of money. Not
much because they hadn't fully established their
ad system. They were still relatively new. We
have to remember summer 2019 was arguably the
best year for TikTok growth in terms of freedom.
And it was that summer of 2019 where TikTok and
ByteDance and the CCP realized, oh, hold on.
this app's going to be the biggest app in the
world. We need to lock it down. And that's when
everything started to switch. So you can ask
a lot of the creators who've been around for
a long time. They will all tell you that summer
2019 was the best years of TikTok because you
had the most freedom of expression because there
were no restrictions because advertisers hadn't
come on the platform yet. The government hadn't
started overreaching yet. And so you had all
of this lovely freedom that we took for granted.
And so after I posted that video, taken down
within a few minutes. Community guidelines violation
for hate speech every video I posted after that
for the next six months Six to eight months wouldn't
pass like 15 ,000 views It was a full block I
maybe had one or two videos squeaked by because
I was super careful about how I worded something
and would comment under it everyone Please help
me share this video to get it back up like that
kind of thing, but I could not surpass 50 ,000
views even and so I was So done with TikTok.
I'd grown this amazing account. I was ecstatic
about it. This was my next big thing. I was like,
I finally found what I want to do with my life.
I can use this to bolster a speaking career or
Hollywood because they'll hire people with large
social media presences. And then it stopped.
And I was sitting there going, what the hell
am I doing? What kind of emotions were going
through you at the time? Oh, despair. I was just
done. I was defeated. Sadness. Sadness, yeah.
I was defeated. I was done. I had nothing else.
I mean, I'd been putting, ironically, not a lot
of time into it. One video a day is really not
that hard, especially when you sit, record, post,
and then close your phone and do something else.
But I'd gotten accustomed to it. And growing
up, I'm the oldest of three. So I am the stereotypical
oldest child, where I am the... You know, the
extrovert, the guy who loves hosting people.
I mean, when I was nine years old, I would have
playdates set up that I would organize myself.
And the parents would come to the house and drop
their kid off, see my mom and go, oh my gosh,
I never talked to you. Is this okay? Did you
know we were doing this? And she would go, yeah,
Braden told me, but I was that kid. I was the
extrovert. Didn't matter where we went, I would
make friends. I'd be four years old, sitting
on the front porch, eating grapes, waving and
talking to passerbys. Right? So, to lose... Such
a significant outreach and to lose the attention.
Yeah. Really impacted. It took your voice. It
was exactly. And it was almost like your show.
It was your show. It was an extension of me.
Yeah. Yeah. And so losing that. impacted my ego
because I hadn't fully gotten comfortable with
who I was as a person yet. And so this being
an extension of me. That was almost like your
persona. It was. Well, it wasn't even a persona
because it was me. And so being told that I was
inherently wrong and that everything that I did
was bad from that point forward had an impact
on me because I took it seriously. You put you
in TikTok jail. Well, I took it personally because
I wasn't putting up filters. I wasn't putting
up these walls. My audience got me. They got
to see. Brayden Sorbo unfiltered. And when Brayden
Sorbo unfiltered was rejected, Brayden was rejected.
And I'm sitting there at 19 years old going,
what did I do wrong? All I was trying to do was
make people laugh. And so I remember there came
a point, this is maybe a year after that initial
shadow ban. Did you cry? I don't cry much. I'll
try right here. I don't cry much. I don't know
what it is. Would it be helpful if one of us
starts crying first? Yeah, we could all start
crying together. Ironically, I can cry better
in movies than I can in real life. It's perfect.
Cue the onion fumes, please. Someone get some
sad music going, please. Get the rain. No, I
remember I was just pissed off. I was sad. I
was upset. Yeah, just a little bit of everything.
All the emotions. And I remember sitting in my
room. Almost. But at the same time, knowing I
did nothing wrong. But did you know, I mean,
you were banned by communists? That's got to
at least make you feel better. There's some sort
of lining to this. You make the connection that
a bunch of communists banned you? Eventually.
But once again, I was still a kid. I'm still
thinking about being rejected personally rather
than, oh, you know what I mean? It's like going
up and talking to a girl at a bar and she rejects
you. And later you find out she's a serial killer.
It's like, oh, well, that rejection was a good
thing. You know what I mean? But in the moment,
you're going, what did I do wrong? Why did I
get rejected? And then, you know. she find that
you find out she stole someone's kidney later
you're like thank god it wasn't me exactly and
so I remember I was sitting in my room and I
was contemplating quitting just because there
was no point right no views I wasn't making any
money they still hadn't implemented the full
ad revenue system but there was no way I was
gonna make anything with the little views that
I had yeah so I was going I'm just gonna do something
else i don't need to be doing this anymore and
i remember i don't go on instagram very much
and look at my dm requests but i decided i would
just go check it out so i go on instagram i open
up my message request and at the very top is
a message from this kid maybe 14 years old 15.
he goes hey braden i just want to let you know
i'm a freshman in high school and i get bullied
a lot and coming home to your videos every day
makes me happy i was heavily contemplating suicide
Wow. And your videos make me laugh. And it tells
me that there isn't just bad in the world. So
thank you for what you do. Wow. And just that
one person was enough for me to go, okay, this
is important. This is why I do it. And it gave
me an entirely new purpose. That was from God,
by the way. Yes. It was no longer about what
I can do to get approval from other people. It
was about how I can make other people laugh and
how I can make other people think. Because when
we stop thinking for ourselves and when we stop
laughing, we lose everything. I mean, everybody
on the show has been through a cancellation journey
and everybody sort of arrives at the same place
that there's a reason it all went terribly sideways,
you know, and the depths that we have to go through
in order to find our mission and purpose. So
you got really low. Yeah, go for it. Okay, so
at that time, how many followers did you have
on Instagram? A couple thousand. Instagram wasn't
transferring from TikTok. Okay. So did you have
to then, did you decide to start back over or
did you decide to focus on Instagram? Where did
you go from there? So I kept going on TikTok.
I didn't stop posting. Even though you were getting
a lot less views, you're like, I don't care if
15 ,000, if I can impact one, I'm doing God's
work. Yes. And because of that, because of the
consistency and slow iterations with new content
and testing out different things, trying, you
know, hold new avenues and all that stuff. My
content. eventually started to pick back up i
had a couple joke videos still blow up years
later but now you know the content is is significantly
better than it used to be it's still not back
to what it was but then again tick tock itself
is oversaturated with the amount of content creators
yeah and the videos that i used to post wouldn't
perform well today just because of how quickly
the market changes you know we all we always
ask our guests the same question if they could
do it all over again would you post that hong
kong Joke again on TikTok. Knowing what I know.
I think the lesson itself was incredibly valuable.
And I would also say that there might have been
other ways that I could have learned it. Maybe
I would. Oh, I don't know. Because I wouldn't
back down from speaking truth. That's the thing
is I wouldn't change the truth to fit someone
else's narrative. The truth is unchangeable.
I'm sorry. It's objective. Take it up with God.
It's not my problem. But the joke is just a.
I don't want to say it's just a joke, but I think
I would not post it again. Why? For what purpose?
Going back, I think I would be cautious about
how I handled it, but I would still try to bring
jokes about the situation because I try to make
jokes about whatever's trending. Would you make
jokes about China? I don't see why not. I'm not
suggesting that you... No, of course. But I don't
see why we should be giving certain... yeah countries
like special permission to avoid a joke we're
not we're not going out saying like i hate you
and i hope your whole country blows up like that
we're not doing that it's a joke but everybody
knows that's just it china is communism is they're
not they don't even hide it there's no freedom
exactly we're not calling them like a name that's
what they're communist would i make a joke about
americans being overweight inherently we are
overweight without a doubt would i make a joke
about the Brits having bad teeth. Sure, why not?
Right? It's just a joke. There are plenty of
British people that I know who don't have bad
teeth. And they would laugh because they realize
that it's not a direct attack on them. Yeah,
exactly. It's all the teeth. Exactly. So what
was your second one? There's another one? Yeah,
you've already been cancelled twice, right? A
little bit, yes. What was the second one? So
the second one's been significantly less. drastic
just because I've learned how to handle it better.
And so the second one was when I switched up
my content again. At the beginning of 2024 January
I launched a show called BS with Brayden Sorbo
which was my political commentary stuff and that's
when I switched more from the world of comedy
into the world of politics and commentary and
bringing humor to that as opposed to bringing
everything out of it. Like a J .P. Sears kind
of thing? Sure. That'd be one way to put it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just sort of the Gen Z perspective,
if you will. And so, but not skits. Well, he
does commentary as well. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
But not the skits part, because I'm pretty sure
it is good. I don't do the skits as well as him,
so I wouldn't try. He's funnier than I am. But
I... I remember I launched the show and I changed
up my content on TikTok and Instagram so drastically
that the algorithm did not like it. And so this
was almost a self -imposed shadow jail ban where
my views significantly just nosedived. But...
Learning from the previous mistakes and not wanting
to deal with, okay, I'm not going to look at
the mental of it. I'm not going to get caught
up in the, you know, whatever. I kept posting
the political stuff. The cancellation came from
the reaction. Turns out a lot of my followers
disagree on a moral level with me. And so I receive...
Wait, elaborate on that a little bit. What does
that mean? A lot of followers of mine were following
for comedy and also still very liberal in their
ideologies. And so I would make a post about
abortion. And I would receive death threats for
it. And so my cancellation didn't come from being
put in shadow jail, TikTok bans. My cancellation
came from people saying that they wanted me to
die, to be the next Lake and Riley, to be the
next X, Y, and Z. Like full -on death threats
saying, how dare you say this, that, or the other
thing. You're going to get what's coming to you.
That kind of thing. So you were first shadow
banned by the government. The second shadow ban
was by people who were following you. Yes, a
rejection of my initial audience. And I've since
founded a new audience. We had some of that.
So when we went through our cancellation journey,
where she was outspoken at the school, our phone
blew up with people who had the most horrible
things to say. And we had to keep swapping out
the... It's the lady who answered the phone because
it was just too emotional. She couldn't handle
it anymore. I'm like, toughen up. Just a bunch
of... Sending things in the mail that were graphic
and horrible. Very graphic. Yeah. No, it's crazy.
I've lost friendships over this. How? Tell us
about that. People have, to put nicely, people
have just unfollowed me. They've removed me.
And then in other ways, they've messaged me and
said, I can't believe that this is what you hold
to. How did I ever like you as a person to begin
with? And I go, it's not that. But if it is to
you, it shows where your problems lie. I just
wish we could be more tolerant of a society.
If somebody wants to hold a different perspective
or belief, it doesn't impact me or my family,
it's fine. I'm okay with that. That's just it.
We had family members that cut us off because
of our stance on vaccines and so forth or whatever.
And it's like, listen, why do you think we have
to agree? There is... The reason that they think
that is because it is essentially decades and
decades of slow planning and implementation by
the government. And so people are purposefully
being divided for the sake of disharmony. Because
when you're unified, when people get together
and are combined collectively, countries, communities,
cities, everything is built. If you don't have
unity, you can't build anything yourself. And
so people become heavily reliant and dependent
on a system that tells them what to do, where
to do it, and how to do it. And so when you have
people who are willing to think for themselves
and say things that are countercultural. they
end up suffering the repercussions for it. In
my book, I touch on the fact that we create a
society of weakness because weakness breeds compliance.
The weaker you are physically, the less likely
you are to think rationally or for yourself because
you want to avoid confrontation. Yes, 150%. Scientific,
direct. People can argue with it. Day and night,
but it doesn't change the hardened science. The
truth behind it is the fact that we have created
a society of people who are compliant because
they are not strong enough to stand on their
own. And so when I tell people that, it makes
me unpopular. And yet, that's what I've decided
to do. I bet if you look back at the earliest
days of America, there's probably a whole bunch
of super outspoken, opinionated people, which
was served as well. Yes. bring us to present
day, yeah, we become sheeple. We're much easier
to control if everybody is kind of scared to
speak up. That's sort of where this show came
from. This show gives people a voice. We felt
we didn't have a voice. You went from TikTok
to you didn't have any other social media, pretty
much. So that's the purpose of the show, to give
people an opportunity to come and tell their
story. It's really important. How many people
started to unfollow you? Was it just like a massive
unfollowing? Yeah, it was a mass exodus. I wouldn't
be able to give you a specific number, 100 ,000,
200 ,000. It was a large number. Wow, that's
pretty big. Yes. A majority of my followers,
though, were pretty already on that right side
because the jokes that I was saying were not
necessarily appropriate or politically correct,
so they already had that kind of instilled in
them. And so when I switched on my content, it
was just because of the mass reporting from former
followers or people just on the page that TikTok
refused to push the video anywhere. So my actual
followers wouldn't see it, that kind of thing.
And it came down to... I won't be surprised if
they purposely pushed it to the people that they
know are not aligned with you. Oh, yeah. I've
talked to a couple... Because they're very smart.
They are. I've talked to a couple other people
in the same spheres as me online. Not necessarily
the same content, but everyone recently has even
seen a dip in their viewership. There's something
going around, for whatever reason, on social
media, specifically Instagram, where a lot of
commentary accounts, political accounts, meme
accounts even, that just make jokes, are getting
hit. And there was a mass ban that just happened
to a lot of people. Some of them are my friends.
Simply for making jokes, making memes, making
comments. And Zuckerberg. said he wasn't going
to do that. Yes. And now everyone is sort of
seeing that, okay, well. He is doing it because
he's a liar. Well, maybe he didn't do it. That's
his get out of jail. I didn't press the button,
but someone else went over here. I just closed
my eyes and did this. Exactly. Yeah, so we've
witnessed in real time, you know, wave after
wave of attack and attack and attack. I mean.
So did this one hit you as hard as the first
one? Like, did you feel that one in your heart?
Because it's one thing to be. You know, like
I took it as a lot of pride when the government
tried to ban me. Yeah. You know, I'm like, yeah,
you know, the government is that interested in
me? Great. She's wired differently. You know,
I'm like, let's go. Let's do this. Yeah. You
know, Chucky, redheaded Chucky was talking to
me on the press secretary. You know who that
is, right? Yes. Sucky. I call her redheaded Chucky.
Redheaded Chucky's hilarious. And, you know,
I was like, that's kind of cool. So it's kind
of cool you got banned by China. Yes. Not a lot
of people can say that. Right? Now I need America.
But when you get banned by your peers, like,
did that one hurt you more? The friends? Or at
that point, were you like... Ironically, no,
because Hollywood relationships are very transactional,
and so people aren't necessarily friends with
each other. They're just acquaintances because
they can get something from you. And so when
a lot of those Hollywood or social media friendships
ended, I... Was almost expecting it to a degree
because I was going you are in this world There's
a very strong chance that I'm different than
you in my viewpoint And when you find that out
you're going to hate me and I've witnessed that
already with my dad losing his friends And so
it prepared me so it didn't hit me nearly as
hard because originally ego. I love the attention
I wanted it. I lost it. I went what the heck
yeah this time I Still like the attention. I
still like being able to be that voice be that
person be that speaker But losing it wasn't necessarily
a shock. It was, all right, this is to be expected.
We know how this works now. Losing those quote
-unquote friendships meant that they weren't
really friends to begin with, in which case,
all right, see you later. I wish you nothing
but the best. I know you wouldn't say the same
to me, but I'm going to take the high road and...
Walk away. And so there wasn't necessarily nearly
as much of an impact, which I'm grateful for.
But now I just need to be canceled by America
because that is how you become more prominent
and get a show and everything like this is. Well,
if you're canceled by America, we'll bring you
back. All right. Fantastic. But we're still going
to find something else to be counseled for, so
we're ahead of you. Okay, dang it. We need to
be one ahead of you at all times. You know, it's
an interesting world we live in, all these social
media platforms, that we feel like an inherent
right to free speech on them because we're Americans,
but we don't really. And they do control the
message. And we've seen in the last administration,
actually the government started to interfere
as well with what these platforms do. they would
have a say in the matter as well, which is super
uncool. What are those files? The X files or
whatever it was. Twitter files. Yeah, the Twitter
files. But we don't really, at the end of the
day, have a right. They can be like, hey, it's
our platform. We will dictate the content that's
on there. We will change the rules at any time
we want. We want Erase to be super successful
on YouTube, but we know there's certain things,
certain topics that we can't talk about. And
we abide by that for the most part. And if we
do have something that we talk about, we know
we have to edit it out. We already got a strike
on us already. Wow. Yeah, already. We're a relatively
new podcast. We got a strike on us. And we have
to do massive biopsies of... large chunks of
content, and it took like an hour and something
video down to like 40 minutes. We lost like half
an hour of that particular episode, just so we
can abide by the term. It is communism. And it
was the robots that were watching the show itself.
We don't think we live in a communist country,
but we do. In a way, we don't really have free
speech. No, we don't. Well, we had the first
chapter of the book, Embrace Masculinity on SorboStudios
.com, is called The America Your Parents Knew.
is dead is what is it it's dead the america your
parents knew is dead okay and so there are i
mean i just saw a stat that the average age for
a home buyer in 1980 was 31 years old you know
the average age for a home buyer in america today
no 60. wow 60. yeah the american dream This idea
of this capitalist paradise where you go and
you work hard, you get a job, you go to school,
you find a wife, you settle down, you have kids,
and you support your family on a milkman's salary
doesn't exist anymore. We don't live in a capitalist
society anymore. We live in a corporate society.
And what corporatism does, what this oligarchical
system does, is it monopolizes industries where
it becomes incredibly difficult for people to
break out on their own. It becomes exceedingly
harder and harder for people, especially in my
age. And my age range is realizing that. That
is why you have this mass shift in political
ideologies from specifically Gen Z. I mean, Gen
Z is the farthest right that any generation has
ever experienced. Like, ever. Farthest from the
right? Farthest to the right. Oh, really? Yes,
yes. Specifically the young men and the young
women are following suit. Thanks to Turning Point
in no small way as well. It's big, big, like
these big... people -led, not corporation -led
movements, these grassroots movements that are
kind of paving the way and allowing people to
think for themselves. So Turning Point had the
millennials. And I feel like after millennials
is Gen Z. So Turning Point had all the millennials
and they started getting the Gen Z and then the
Gen Zers came along and were like, so we could
do this even at a bigger scale. So let's go.
I mean, you look at the Turning Point events,
they have... 12 ,000 attendees. That's insane.
And so it's showing this cultural shift. And
day by day by day, people are coming to truth
because they're being told not to. They're being
told what to think. It's backfired. The messaging
has backfired. Exactly. And so we were talking
earlier about the $20 million project they're
trying to launch called SAM, Speaking to the
American Man. And they've hired an obese, queer
Mexican woman to speak to. Gen Z men. I mean,
that is probably the worst person you could have
picked. Just saying, like, I don't think if anyone
knows men, she would. I would assume you would
want to pick a guy. But who do they have? David
Hogg, Harry Sisson. Like, they have these guys
who aren't really masculine. Yeah, David Hogg
is a Democratic Party. He just got removed. Did
he? He just got removed from the DNC co -chair.
Wow. Yeah. So, but they're trying to do this.
If you look through what they currently have
proposed, now nothing's passed yet, nothing's
in action, they haven't done it yet, but what
they're currently proposing is essentially just
astroturfing Reddit, which is just kind of bombarding
it with messaging politically, saying, come to
the left, we're friendly, we love you, and all
this. But they've spent the past three decades
telling men that they suck, that they're replaceable,
that they're expendable, that they're idiots,
and that they hate them for being manly, and
now they're going, well, we actually like you
now. Yeah. As if that works. It's like the Steve
Buscemi clip of him walking through a high school.
He goes, how do you do, fellow kids? And it's
like, all right, you're clearly an undercover
cop. You know what I mean? It's like, no one's
falling for this. And so you have this kind of,
ironically, a cancellation of the left by Gen
Z. Because we've seen what happened to the generations
before us. We saw what happened to you, to my
parents, to Charlie Kirk, to Turning Point as
a whole, to Riley Gaines, to all of these other
people. Jordan Peterson, his first start was
cancellation, right? We should have David Hogg
on the show. Hey, you know what? He just got
canceled from the DNC. It would work. Right?
Would you? It'd be a good episode. It'd be a
good episode. Man, don't let that guy hear it,
son. Fair. But yeah, so you have effectively
a cancellation from Gen Zers. towards the left.
So cancellation is still going on as you see
it. Because some people think with this new administration
we're going to see less of it, cancellation is
over. We don't think so. No. We think people
are just waiting. They're ravenous. Well, like
you just said, Instagram. Instagram is literally
canceling people right now. Yeah. Right now.
And we have a ding already on our show. It's
still happening. Yeah, and I think that with
AI, because it sounds like... the way you just
said you uploaded it and it takes a second and
then boom, it spits out to you. So AI is basically
sensory. A lot of AI going on. AI is the robots
are here. We talk about this future where the
robots are controlling everything. It's here
now. No, it's terrifying. This robot has read,
has watched the show, the episode. Yes, in two
seconds. Summarized it, deduced it, figured out
the parts that it didn't like. Wrote back with
the strike, told us exactly where the content
that isn't in life. Right? Yeah, no, it's crazy.
No human intervention. Terrible. It's kind of
like the Terminator. It's really weird. It is.
Well, it's the Terminator in the sense that if
you've seen the new AI videos of people, they're
making AI videos that are people talking. And
they're looking more and more realistic. Two
years ago. On Instagram, there's some super hot,
you know. Not that I follow them, but I've heard.
I've read articles. Do you want this shovel you
just keep digging? Exactly. Can I follow a hot
AI? That's acceptable, no? I don't know. You
don't know? I'm not sure. It does add a moral
dilemma, though. You have people on both sides,
right and left, saying, well, AI porn is okay
because no one's being hurt, and they're using
it to justify child pornography as long as it's
AI -generated. That's clearly wrong. Matt Fradd
is another podcast host called Pints with Aquinas,
and he was interviewing Dennis Prager. And Dennis
Prager went on a rant about how, well, it's AI
porn, so no one's being hurt, so it doesn't matter
the age of the people in it. And so you have
people on the left and the right. Dennis Prager
advocated? Dennis Prager, yes. It's a whole clip
on. It's insane. I know. Disappointing. Very
disappointing. But I'm seeing it from both sides
where people are all for AI. Cancel him and then
have him on. There you go. That's our business
model. We figured it out. If we can create cancellations
and just have him come into our loving arms,
we feel so bad for you. That's good. And they're
explaining the whole story and you're sitting
there knowing, well, yeah, we orchestrated it.
But yeah, this AI thing is effectively going
to cancel. any sort of video proof in courtrooms
now because everything's fabricatable. You can
make anything with AI. So it's only going to
be eyewitness testimony again. So we are essentially
screwing ourselves over as a society. You said
Terminator. This is how Terminator started. I'm
like, we have enough movies about this to know
it's bad. Why do we keep doing it? I keep thinking
about that AI robot. You know, we joke and be
like, you know, it would be cool to have an AI
robot. A humanoid. She wants a humanoid. And
then I'm like, you know, I'm not sure that's
going to be a good idea because... I'm sure I'll
piss off this robot, and next thing you know,
its hands are around my neck. Ex machina. You
know what I mean? And that's it. It's over. You
won't be stronger than a robot. No. Because they
develop these personalities. With two fingers,
they could squeeze your little neck. Yeah. Maybe
that's a good idea. There's movies about it,
too. So we know what happens with AI robots,
and they're making it normal. And ironically,
when we make AI robots, we're going to effectively
ruin the dating market. We're going to, you know.
You know, it's crazy. Ruined the dating market?
Why? Well, the dating market's already ruined
with mass pornography. The dating market's already
been destroyed. You think people are going to
marry robots? Yes. We have effectively canceled
masculinity nationwide. Young men don't approach
women. 45 % of 18 to 25 -year -olds have never
approached a woman in real life. 45%. What do
they do? They go home and watch porn because
the girl on the screen is not going to reject
them. They can pay a girl on OnlyFans $100 a
minute or $200 or whatever for an hour to get
that girl to say and do the things they want.
But in person, they risk rejection. They're taught
online through all of this messaging that if
they're in the gym. And they look up while they're
in the middle of a, you know, after they finish
a set. And they happen to glimpse in the direction
of a girl with a tripod. Cancelation. 500 ,000
people immediately attacking him in the comments.
Where does he live? Someone get this pervert
out of this gym. Ban him. So guys, don't talk
to girls at gyms. They go, this is just not worth
it. Girls will tell their horror stories about
dating a guy who approached them at a bar. And
it's like, it's the worst thing ever. And this
is why you never approach a guy at a bar. And
so guys are watching that. And subjectively,
they're... They're subconsciously learning to
not approach at bars. They're learning not to
approach. Is this all in your book? Yes. Wow.
So I talk about all of these things. What's in
your book again? Embrace Masculinity. SorboStudios
.com. SorboStudios .com. Embrace Masculinity.
There's this subconscious cancelization of everything
that we once thought we knew. And so young men
are not approaching people anymore. Young women
are. pissed off about it because they would love
to. There's plenty of young girls I know who
want to get married. But unfortunately, the market
has been so saturated with pornography that it's
made people unable to form bonds with each other.
They can't connect. And then even if they want
to connect, they're too afraid to try. Jeez.
I never thought about that. And I just realized
while we're sitting here, you know, we think
about this future where the robots are controlling
everything. But this actually may be the step
to make that happen where the AI... decides who
they want to cancel, creates the content, puts
it out there and knows exactly what's going to
happen, how the masses are going to react and
take people down like that. That could happen
today. You can make an AI video of someone online
saying the N -word and that person's career is
ruined. Done. And how does that person prove
that it wasn't them? It's clearly them in the
video. When AI gets to the point where it's indistinguishable,
we are in trouble. Even when it's proven that
it wasn't. The damage is so bad that there's
no coverage of the aftermath that actually was
fake. That happened to Alan Dershowitz. It did.
It happens all the time with sexual assault allegations.
The lacrosse players from Duke, remember the
prostitute accused five lacrosse players from
Duke. They immediately lost their scholarship.
They went through like a year of trials. The
lacrosse player eventually said, or the prostitute
came out and said, all right, I made it up. It's
too late. Their lives were ruined. They can't
do anything anymore. So what you said is perfect
because... They're going to make a video. Someone
will make a video of someone saying something
or doing something. I want to take somebody down.
They'll post it. And then by the time that damage
control has been spread out and we've kind of
netted the fire, everything's burned already.
And the other part of it is the person who is
being damaged doesn't get a voice. Yes. They
can't even say, that wasn't me. I never did that.
Because, you know, the media doesn't let you
speak. Yes. No, they don't. Because if you were
deemed as, you know, I don't know what trigger
words, a Yahtzee. If the media calls you a Yahtzee,
you're not going to get a platform. They're not
going to bring on you. What's a Yahtzee? It's
replaced Y with an N. I don't know if you could
say that on YouTube. Oh, okay, I understand.
Like Germany, 1940s. Yahtzee, got it. Like if
you're called a Yahtzee or, you know, HH Youth
or whatever, like who's going to have you on?
They're not going to risk. platforming someone
who's a murdering supporter or whatever. They
wouldn't do that. So the second you are designated
as something that is below subhuman, you can't
do anything. It sort of happened to us because
we were, before our controversy, we were Miami's
most philanthropic power couple. Really? Yeah.
Only good things. Only good things. Doing good
things for humanity and the world. Took a different
position on the you -know -whats during COVID.
And that makes the narrative change completely.
And we were vilified online. Well, we've seen
people who were good at heart. People are nasty.
And you see people who are good at heart. Like
you said, philanthropic. You have people who
have charities, who do good things, who are beloved
by their community. And they come out with one
stance that the left or the media decides, no.
that person's life ruined or attacked at the
very least. But I could totally see a future
where it's way worse because now you've got a
whole AI engine behind it. Oh, my gosh. Basically
drumming up the drama, creating fake news. You
showed me a video that one of our friends made
for her mom, and it was so realistic. It even
sounded like her, and it certainly looked like
her. But it wasn't her. It wasn't her voice.
She just AI'd a voice over her. Her image, I
guess, and then it three -dimensionalized it.
Yeah, she took her image, and then she took,
but it looked like it was her saying. Yeah, first
generation. I'm sure it's just only going to
get better. And I'm sure. That's the thing, is
it will only improve. I mean, it's been two years
since we started getting AI videos, and they're
indistinguishable from real people now to certain
people. Like, you take someone who's a little
bit older, like a grandparent's generation, the,
you know, whatever was Buff Boomer's, Gen Alpha.
Baby boomers? Baby boomers, maybe the greatest
generation, the silent generation, something
like that. They're not going to be able to tell.
Someone sends them a video of someone that looks
like their granddaughter going, Grandpa, I need
help. I'm stuck here. Can you please send me
money? Her mother to this day thinks that that
video was actually real and she was there even
at the moment when it was made. Yeah, but that's
the thing. With it only getting better. You have
people, I mean, I've seen videos where someone
will go, which one's real or AI? And they'll
be holding two things. They'll have like a mug
and another mug in their hand. And then this
mug will fade out and it's just this mug. And
you couldn't tell which one was real or AI. So
it's only getting better. And that's scary. Cancelization
is going to become mainstream. So the point is
AI is going to be the future. Cancelation has
not gone away. And AI is only going to make it
worse. You heard it here. That's our prediction,
right? What can we do about it? How can we stop
it? How do you stop this train? Well, the people
who are creating the AI don't want to stop because
it's innovation. If you throttle freedom of expression,
if you throttle the innovation behind it... then
people are less likely to want to innovate because
the last time someone did, he got in trouble
for it, and then you're canceling someone for
doing it anyway, like preemptively. It's like
the morality question is a preemptive strike
in war morally justified. And so you have to
look at a case -by -case designation because
yes, sometimes it is, and no, sometimes it isn't.
Say you have a bad guy who's going to put a bunch
of beagle puppies in a cage and let flies eat
them. You might want to stop him before he does
that. He has a track record of doing that. You
might want to... Maybe prevent that from happening.
But you have someone who hasn't done anything
yet. Are you really morally justified to put
a stop to it, even if you know what they're going
to do? How do we stop the Terminator? How did
they do it in the movie? They threw him in a
lava pit, right? Is that what it was? Like a
machine -pressed lava pit or something? Hydraulic?
Building a lava pit. Every house. Oh, no. Another
project. Every house has to have a lava pool
now. And then we have to monetize it also because
we don't actually need it for, who knows, maybe
decades. See, now we have to do another project.
We could get a tax write -off. Not a bad idea,
though. Anybody who wants to get involved in
this one, we're going to crowdsource investment
into our lava pit. Not a bad idea. Okay, well.
So where do things stand now? Things are on the
up and up. Are you acting? Yes, so I'm doing
a little bit of acting. My latest movie is called
I Feel Fine. It's streaming on Amazon and Paramount.
It's a heavy drama. It deals with suicide, mental
awareness, health, things like that. What do
you play? I play the supporting lead. I play
one of the character's best friends. And I'm
not necessarily a nice guy. I will preface it.
I had so much fun playing that role. That was
so great. We filmed it in Buchanan, West Virginia,
a town of like 5 ,000 people, maybe. 3 ,000 of
which are at the local college there. So there's
nobody there. And the only restaurant in town
was like a Buffalo Wild Wings. It's hilarious.
It's kind of fun. Miserable eating that every
single day, we'll say. Can't go back. But. It
was a great movie. It's been up for numerous
awards. It's streaming now, like I said. So next
up in the pipeline, not sure, still auditioning,
still going around, but doing a lot of public
speaking. I'm flying out actually right after
this recording, going to Virginia, speaking at
Liberty University. You know, I believe your
initial vision of growing this social media platform,
which will then be the vehicle for getting roles.
well -paying roles, I think that is still intact.
Even though they canceled the crap out of you,
I really believe in that. I'm so proud of you.
Thank you. You were very clear on your intentions.
You took a stand. You never, ever backed down.
And you doubled down on your vision at the end
of the day. And I really think it's going to
turn out great. I see a very bright future for
you. Thank you. I appreciate it. And to any viewers
who might be seeing themselves struggling with
even minor cancellation, Let that be a lesson,
right? Don't back down to what you know is inherently
true. Every single guest has said the same message.
Fight, fight, fight. Every single one of them
has said the same thing. And some people were
hardwired that way. Anything to the contrary
was never even an option. Some people had to
go through a process, a journey to get to that
point. But it's worth it. You have to do it.
You have to do it not just for yourself, but
you have to set an example for others. Because
if you don't, then it's just going to embolden
the other side and they're just going to keep
going at it more and more and more. And we cannot
allow that to happen. No, we can't. And let it,
right? That's proof. And you utilize, you know,
talk to God, pray, meditate, do whatever you
need to do to help. You get through that. Because
once you get through it and you get to the other
side, the other side you feel so much stronger.
You're better for it. And you're better for it.
And that's the truth. And at the end of the day,
like, I feel like we're here in this world. Why
not make a difference and do something special
with it? Instead of, you know, playing Switzerland
and being totally neutral all the time. Yeah,
exactly. So as you know, this show is about being
erased. And we are here to allow people. to use
their voice to share their side of the story
because people don't get to share their side
of the story. So how did you enjoy being on?
What did you think of this show? I thought it
was great. It was nice to be able to just sort
of let loose, speak my mind. I mean, it's not
that I don't already speak my mind, but it was
nice to be able to go in depth on the cancellation.
sort of how it affected me and obviously my family
around me and then how I overcame it. And I hope
that it stands as a testimony to other people
that they can go through similar things and come
out stronger and better because of it. Do you
feel a little teary -eyed at all in any way?
When I was talking about the kid who was struggling
with depression, that's when I get the most emotional.
You made me emotional for that too. I got a little
teary eyed too. Good, good. I do. You said the
word suicide and my eyes just watered up. And
how, are your parents proud of you? I would like
to think so. You know, I can only hope. But yes,
I'm blessed to have been given those parents
and they're very supportive and they encourage
me every step of the way. Amazing. Well, thank
you so much for coming on our show. We enjoyed
our time today. Embrace Masculinity. Yes. Yes,
it sounds like a great book. I know you had one
but somebody like, I had one copy left. Took
it from you. And it got shipped this morning
without my knowledge. Is it on Kindle by any
chance? Not yet. I'm working on getting the Kindle
published. But I'll be sure to get you guys a
copy. I can't wait to read it. Maybe I can get
a little more masculine as a result. You're super
masculine already. Maybe I can contribute a review.
Love it. Thank you, Brayden. Thank you. Thank
you for your time.