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At the time I was 27 and most of my self -worth

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was attached to just being a jack dude who's

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a trainer but I knew I had way more inside of

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me like all of this potential that I felt was

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not yet tapped into and I wanted to explore what

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is that potential what is it that I'm actually

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put on this planet to do because there's so much

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more than just the physical body. This is going

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to be so much fun. Jeremy Abramson, huge influencer

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online. Good friend. Just for the audience, I

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need everybody to know you are a friend. We know

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you super well. How do we know you? We drank

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medicine together years ago. Yes. And I remember

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the moment that we really connected, that we

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bonded. You have a tattoo on your arm that says

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Ahava in Hebrew. That means love. And that's

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Leila's Hebrew name. So I felt a... We really

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connected at that point, and we've become really

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good friends. Welcome to our show, Jeremy. It's

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great to have you. I'm really grateful to be

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here. That's funny that you remember it like

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that. Why? The way that we met, because the way

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that I remember it was... We met before that,

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but that's when we bonded. It was like we hadn't

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spoken really the first four or five days of

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that retreat, and then it was the last ceremony,

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and it was the daytime ceremony. And I remember

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waking up, and you guys were sitting directly

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across from me. In the ceremony. Yes. Yeah. And

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you guys were just like holding on to each other

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in the most loving way possible. It literally

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looked like you guys were high school sweethearts.

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We still are. And after the ceremony, I just...

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We're retirement home sweethearts now. I came

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to you guys. I came to you guys and I was like...

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I know we haven't spoken much, but I just want

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to acknowledge you because I witnessed the love

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that you guys have. And it was so beautiful.

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Guys, this is guys, by the way, this content

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is going to be on their exclusive erased OnlyFans

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channel. All right. But this podcast, we're going

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to keep it PG 13. Okay. So anyways, I witnessed

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you guys across from me sitting in ceremony,

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just expressing so much. authentic love for each

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other and it was beautiful because there's not

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that many people to look up to in the world who

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have like a very beautiful sacred union and just

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witnessing you guys i acknowledge dave i was

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like i just want to let you know man it's beautiful

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to witness that and see that so yeah thank you

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guys for just leading by example you guys are

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incredible you're so unique individually and

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so different how are we different jeremy You

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know how different we are. We have excellent

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arguments about conspiracy theories. But he's

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finally come closer into my direction versus

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when we met, he was further away. I was more

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of the conspiracy tin hat. Now he wears a half

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of a tin hat. I've suspended all my beliefs in

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life. He's way closer. You know what I actually

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think it is? I might be wrong. You definitely

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know better. I don't think it was... David not

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being a conspiracy theorist. I think it was him

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just being so uncomfortable around conflict.

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Like, David's like a very nice, kind, gentle

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man. Right? But like... Unless you piss him off.

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Well, that's what I'm saying. I feel like there's

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been things... Once you piss him off, then there's

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no more nice guys. Well, I feel like especially

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the last couple of years, there's been things

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that have happened that have forced him to like

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activate that fire inside of him. Yeah. You know

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what I mean? For sure. Hence this show. That's

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why we created this show in the first place.

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Yeah, and even when we had our whole cancellation

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journey, in the beginning, it was very uncomfortable

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for David. And then once he stepped into it,

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he was just like, all right, let's fight. You

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want to go to war? It's time for war. I mean,

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I've had a lot of fights growing up. You know?

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A lot of fisticuffs. And I never wanted them.

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I never looked for them. But if you're going

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to mess with me, I'm going to... I'm going to

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take you out if I have to. He's going to peacefully

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and calmly take you out. Yeah. Here's a question

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self will thank you. That's another thing too

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is you guys always are doing the inner work because

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it's very easy to achieve like external and material

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success. Yeah. And kind of just coached. Oh,

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it's a lot of work. Exactly. It's been work from

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the beginning of our relationship. Six months

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into it, I hired a relationship coach. He thought

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I was crazy in the beginning. And then we realized

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it was the best thing we could have done. But

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it was still unconscious coaching, right? Because

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we didn't know about all this stuff. So once

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we went to India, we moved from unconscious coaching

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to conscious coaching. What's the difference,

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you might want to ask? Instead of blaming the

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other and learning how to communicate with the

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other, it's learning how to communicate with

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yourself. Who are you and why are you so pissed

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off? Right. Right. Big difference. Like, I'm

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enraged right now. The old Layla would have been

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like, and you did this to me and you did that

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to me. The new version after India is OK and

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Kabbalah, which. They're both very similar in

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principles that they teach is, okay, why am I

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so mad right now? Why? What is I? No, it can't

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be him. Yes, maybe what he did was not cool,

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but do I have to be enraged? Yeah. Do I have

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to like want to break a couple glasses, you know,

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and throw something at the wall? Or could I like

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breathe through this, dig within and go, okay,

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I'm just going to recognize the fact that I am

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pissed right now. Deal with that first. And then

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come back and say, honey, can we have a conversation

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about, you know, that girl you asked to sit on

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your lap? I'm just kidding. That never happened.

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I know, just kidding. That's not even a good

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example. I feel like this is. That's not even

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a good example. Just kidding. I know. Guys, welcome

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to. Joke. Welcome to Jeremy. Springer but I'm

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just saying you know they're bringing up an extreme

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situation right all the true I mean every anything

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that triggers us that forces us to be reactive

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is something that we just need to examine within

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ourselves a little deeper so we want to we want

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you to share your story that's why that's why

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you're here you have a great story You do great

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things for humanity. Wonderful work. But it hasn't

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been an even line from then to now. You are very

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outspoken about the use of plant medicines. And

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we're proponents. I'm a proponent as well. And

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the powers that be, the media, social media,

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don't really want these things to be heard or

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vocalized. And things got a little hairy for

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you. You had great reach. On social media and

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elsewhere, and then you didn't. Bring us back

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to sort of the beginning of your journey. Share

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the journey. Oh, my gosh. All right. And it's

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okay to cry if you want. Thank you for setting

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that precedent. Now I'm going to feel like I

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didn't reach your expectations if I don't cry.

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It's okay. Now I almost feel an obligation. Just

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feel it. Feel it in your soul. Whatever comes

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out. Go to those dark, dark places. I think the

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best place to start in terms of... the erased

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aspect of things would be pretty early on in

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COVID. Actually, I guess July, 2018 is when I

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first sat with ayahuasca in Peru. So that was

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my first experience with plant medicine in a

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very intentional way. And I had a transformational

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experience and I was like, okay, I want to explore

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this deeper because I see not only how it opened

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up things for me, but it's. helping a lot of

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people. Everyone that I witnessed in my journey

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had massive shifts in their life transpire after

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they sat with the medicine. What year was this?

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This was late 2018. Who was Jeremy at that time?

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I was a personal trainer here in Miami. Emotionally

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evolutionary. I was still stunningly attractive

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and very jacked. But most of my, at the time

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I was a trainer, right? 27 years old. Conscious

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level, consciousness. Exactly. So pretty much

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at that time, I was starting to go deeper with

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things like Wim Hof breath work and like ice

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baths and like holistic health. But at the time,

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most of my self -worth and identity was still

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attached to being a jacked dude with a six pack

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and a trainer. right and it's like any videos

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that i posted at that time was like me working

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out shirtless like yeah i'm like jacked right

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but really yeah it's good is that a bad thing

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have you seen his instagram is that is that mostly

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david's got that that's mostly showing his sexy

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nipples i hope i hope to be at david's stage

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of life like looking as jacked and as physically

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strong um Stay away from that region. The nipples

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are sensitive. Okay, anyways. Wait, time it one

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second. Alex, will you reset the timer, please?

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Yeah, yeah, I got it. So... Oh, hold on. This

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thing's drunk. This thing. It's strong? This

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thing's drunk. Oh. Seconds. No, it's minutes,

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hours. Okay. Okay, cool. All right. So at the

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time I was 27 and most of my self -worth was

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attached to just being a jack dude who was a

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trainer. But I knew I had way more inside of

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me. Like all of this potential that I felt was

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not yet tapped into. And I wanted to explore

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what is that potential? What is it that I'm actually

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put on this planet to do? Because there's so

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much more than just the physical body. So that

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experience. I mean, I don't know if I'd share

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this experience with you guys, but literally

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the first night of ayahuasca, I'm in the ceremony.

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There's probably 12 other people I've never met

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before. It's their first time doing the medicine

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too. And I just get this tap on my shoulder in

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the ceremony and it's Nicki Minaj, the rapper.

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Wow. Yeah. For reals or you were imagining? No,

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this is part of my journey. It was imagination.

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Exactly. But it was, as you know, there's a very

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thin line. We should caveat that we are not endorsing

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our... promoting or of course the use of plant

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medicine anybody who's interested in that that's

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that's on their own journey if they feel like

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it or not this is not the forum to tell people

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that they should of course i'm just sharing my

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experience and you know the medicine i think

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has been a big part of my life and other people

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that are close to me but by no means is it everyone's

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path you know there's many different paths to

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elevate your consciousness and become more self

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-aware and pursue a life of fulfillment. For

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me, it's just been an instrumental tool. But

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anyways, Nicki Minaj taps on my shoulder and

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she's like, hey, Jeremy, you know, I've been

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watching you and you're pretty dope. And I'm

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like, really, Nicki? Like, how the hell do you

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know who I am? She's like, listen, we're going

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to go on my Instagram live for 30 minutes and

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I just want you to share whatever you want to

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my fans. I'm like, for real? Like, we're going

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to do this? She's like, yeah, whatever you want

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to say. I'm like. Okay. So literally in the ceremony,

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I start just speaking, which you're not really

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supposed to do, right? Because that can affect

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other people's experience. You were that pain

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in the ass, huh? You were that guy. But I wasn't

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like screaming. That people next to you were

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like, shut him up. I was probably speaking like

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in this type of voice. Okay, but still. I know.

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So a couple of the people on the medicine team

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came over to check in, like, hey, are you okay?

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And then the shaman came over and waved them

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off. He's like, shut up, I'm live streaming right

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now. So anyways, I'm just channeling, right?

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I'm just channeling, speaking whatever I am,

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thinking that I'm in this experience on Nicki

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Minaj's Instagram Live. I'm like, this is a once

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in a lifetime opportunity to impact tens of thousands

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of people. So anyways, the experience ends a

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couple hours later. You spoke for a couple hours?

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No, no, no. But the ceremony ended a couple hours.

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And we're all just getting soup after the ceremony

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before we go to sleep. And like six of the guys

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came up to me separately and they're like, yo,

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man, are you like some sort of motivational speaker?

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I'm like, no. you have no idea how much your

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words helped me in my journey like they were

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so transformational chills and i'm like are you

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sure they weren't thinking i was trying to focus

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and you wouldn't shut the hell up did you imagine

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them as well and the things that they said no

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no no that was real this was real so they came

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up to me and they're just showing me all like

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it was six of them like individually you were

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that loud that six people heard i was that amazing

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There was only 10 in the room. Anyways, so that

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experience was like, oh, wow, my voice is powerful.

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Great. Yeah. Because before I was like insecure

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to speak because, you know, I was too scared

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about what the opinions of other people were

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or I just didn't have the confidence to express

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myself authentically. So that was my first experience.

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And then the next night, it was all this stuff

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that I'd been holding on to regarding my older

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brother. who went down the path of drugs and

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alcohol and stuff like that. So the next night,

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the next journey, you did the same thing. You

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spoke nonstop. No, no, I didn't speak. I had

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an experience with my brother, and it was crazy.

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So anyways, that was my first experience with

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plant medicine. That's what opened up my portal

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to, like, I want to explore this more. About

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a year later, I tried microdosing mushrooms for

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the first time, and I literally was in Miami.

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And I was just going through like anxiety, nothing

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like crazy bad, but I just didn't feel like myself.

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My friend gave me like a little cap of a mushroom.

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And I decided one day after work to like just

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go on a bike ride and watch the sunset. And I

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literally felt so at peace. I was like tuned

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into the birds chirping. And I was like, everything

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just felt, I just felt that oneness and connection

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that oftentimes these compounds help you achieve.

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And it really got me out of my own head. and

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i was like oh wow like i'm not even really struggling

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that much in my life imagine if someone's really

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going through like with anxiety with treatment

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resistant depression or ptsd whatever they're

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going through like what if we could just return

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back to nature and actually return back to our

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breath and return back to the present moment

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to actually find the healing that we need so

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After I did that for a couple months and experimented

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with it once or twice a week, I shared it with

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a couple clients I was working with one -on -one.

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One of them was an executive from Google, and

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he had a heroin addiction. So he was this really

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highly functional guy. And then every two or

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three months, he would go on a bender where he

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would just be up all night shooting heroin, stuff

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like that. And he had tried everything. He had

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tried everything to— Young guy? He was probably

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in, he was like 44, 45. And he tried everything.

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And again, this guy was like, on the outside

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you would have no idea. Like he had a very, like

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aesthetically his life looked pretty damn good.

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But he would go in these periods of self -destruction

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every two or three months. And like in that 18

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hours, he would cause. more destruction than

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most people are capable of causing in a year.

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Wow. Right. So, so he's like, listen, he reached

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out to me on LinkedIn actually. And he was like,

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listen, man, I've tried everything. Like, do

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you really think this can help? I'm like, yeah,

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let's give it a shot. Like three months in, he's

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feeling good. Obviously I'm helping him with

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his whole morning routine, his nutrition, all

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of these other things too. But he's like, I haven't

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felt any temptation or desire to use. And then

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that was the same story. for like 18 to 20 months

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he didn't use it all and he felt no desire to

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it he felt almost like repulsed by it and i think

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the reason for that is because like we helped

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connect him to his highest self and he was able

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to look at that other version of himself and

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be like that's just not me you know and he was

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able to see that fresh perspective um so that's

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when i really became bought in about micro dosing

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and i was like okay i want to start sharing this

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with more people and when you say micro dosing

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was it just like a little piece of mushroom every

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day or what what's explained to people listening

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to this what does that mean at this point i had

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worked on creating my own formulation so it was

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in a capsule and there's 250 milligrams so micro

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dosing is a quarter gram yeah micro dosing is

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considered a sub perceptual dose a quarter of

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gram that's right This guy is a mathematician

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over here. And what, is that every day? So we

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were doing it every other day. Okay. Yeah, we

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were microdosing with capsules, which we still

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do. Monday, Wednesday, Friday mornings, they

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were mixed with lion's mane and cordyceps. Which

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is good for your brain. Exactly. Will you explain

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to our viewers what it does to your brain? Yeah,

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lion's mane is amazing for neurogenesis, creating

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new neural connections in the brain. And also

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it's amazing. It's probably the most researched.

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compound for actually helping prevent things

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like dementia and Alzheimer's. And then cordyceps

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is called the Olympic mushroom. It's really amazing

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at improving something called oxygen utilization.

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Basically your endurance. It's why a lot of athletes

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use it. And those are both legal. They're functional

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mushrooms, right? Which is again, going back

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to the whole, and we'll talk about this in a

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minute, but like when you start to zoom out and

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you start to wake up and you become aware and

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You start to look at, for instance, everything

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that was going on during the pandemic, right?

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Especially the first year, first couple years

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in other parts of the country. And you see, okay,

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they're closing down the beach. They're closing

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down the park. They're closing down the gym.

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But they're leaving liquor stores open because

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that's essential business, right? And then we're

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demonizing things like mushrooms and other plant

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medicines that have literally been around for

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millennia, right? that come from nature, that

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have no proven negative side effects, that are

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actually helping people heal and elevate their

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consciousness, what's the real agenda at play

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right now? Yeah. And that's kind of what started

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the journey of a race was really the whole COVID

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stuff. You got a race in what year, though? 2020,

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you realized this was a big scam. And then at

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what point did... Because your YouTube channel

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had a lot, right? When were you censored? What's

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the growth of the... Yeah, where did you get

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to? And then when were you cut off? So... Were

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you monetizing at this point? So you were making...

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It was your livelihood, right? So 2020... 2020,

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obviously March COVID happens. I remember May

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1st, 2020 is when I made my first post on TikTok,

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right? And, you know, I was just posting anything

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there. I was posting like dance videos. I was

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posting like just mindset stuff, hopefully to

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elevate people's mood and vibe during these lockdowns.

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And then I was really just talking about health,

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like not even talking, hey guys, don't get the

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jab. Like it was before the jab even became available,

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actually. I was like, guys, Everything's locked

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down right now. Please do your best to just like,

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if you have a balcony, get outside. Feel the

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sun kiss your face. Get some movement. And these

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are the things that are actually naturally going

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to boost your immunity. These posts were getting

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flagged for misinformation. Wow. That's crazy.

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On TikTok? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just TikTok. This

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is TikTok. Well, because TikTok's owned by China.

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They don't want you outside your house. They

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wanted you trapped in your house. Yeah, it was

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crazy. And then I was like, and that just kind

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of like put, It's not another perspective that

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they might say? No, no, no, because you said

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this. No, no, no. Literally health -oriented

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content. Yeah, like, listen, early on with the

00:21:18.819 --> 00:21:24.960
whole jab stuff, because there's so much money

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behind that with Johnson & Johnson and Pfizer

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and all of the different government agencies

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that are in cahoots, like, I understand those

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posts getting flagged for misinformation, even

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though they're actually, as we know now, Extremely

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truthful. Yeah. Right. But no, these were like

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basic health things. It would even be me in a

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supermarket. Posting viral videos in the supermarket,

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getting millions of views. Guys, avoid these

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ingredients. Right. I've seen your content. Even

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that was being flagged? So maybe one out of every

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ten. Wow. That's so crazy. But what happens is...

00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:07.099
when that happens like on a somewhat consistent

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basis they basically like they call it like shadow

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ban slow you down right they like shadow ban

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and they make sure that your page isn't getting

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visibility yeah and all of that so i probably

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went through three or four cycles where like

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you know they would shadow ban me and stuff would

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kind of get shut down and then like we would

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work it back up and it would get back to a normal

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space so anyways fast forward a couple years

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Okay, fast forward a couple of years. At this

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point, I'm at like 1 .2 million followers on

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TikTok. Wow. Right? That's a lot. And then I

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wake up one day and I open the app and it says

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your account has been suspended. Like it's been

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deleted. Wow. And I'm like, I don't even recall

00:22:51.220 --> 00:22:54.559
honestly what the post was. I know that feeling,

00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:58.019
but I only had 10 ,000 followers. Yeah. So anyways,

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it was crazy. And it was one of those things

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where I was like. It was almost like, in an unfortunate

00:23:04.529 --> 00:23:07.170
way, I was almost like expecting it. I was like,

00:23:07.190 --> 00:23:11.009
like when I saw it, I was like, oh, okay. All

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right. When was this exactly? This was early

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2023. Wow. Yeah. I was surprised you lasted that

00:23:19.730 --> 00:23:23.670
long. This was end of 2022, early 2023. It was

00:23:23.670 --> 00:23:26.690
after we met. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We met before

00:23:26.690 --> 00:23:31.089
probably. Yeah. So anyways, so fast forward today.

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I have the TikTok account back. It has 1 .4 million

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followers, but we've never been, we haven't been

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able to get it to a point where it was. Where

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like every video I posted. Because you're there,

00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:43.940
but you're shadow banned now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So we might be able to do something with it.

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I'm going to like put some energy into trying

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like to restore it back to maybe some of its,

00:23:51.740 --> 00:23:55.119
how we could get some of the visibility back

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that we used to. That's one. okay that's one

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what about instagram because you have a lot of

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followers on instagram so instagram instagram

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there's never been something super big that's

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happened like instagram has been probably the

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best platform but there's the biggest one the

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the the most heartbreaking time of getting erased

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is 100 this tedx talk that i delivered at the

00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:31.869
beginning of 2020 Wow, that's crazy. It was beginning

00:24:31.869 --> 00:24:38.390
of 2023. And I never even got to see the talk

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that I delivered. This is the most effed up story.

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Wow. And honestly, it even came up in this ayahuasca

00:24:46.410 --> 00:24:47.369
journey I was just doing. They didn't even give

00:24:47.369 --> 00:24:49.569
it to you? They recorded your TED Talk and you

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didn't even get it? Exactly. This is what happened.

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I hired. I was like, this was on my vision board

00:24:55.390 --> 00:24:57.069
for a while. I was like, I want to give a TEDx

00:24:57.069 --> 00:24:59.740
talk. We talked about this a lot. Was it on mushrooms?

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You put your heart and soul into this. You worked

00:25:01.660 --> 00:25:03.380
so hard on this. Yeah, it was about mushrooms

00:25:03.380 --> 00:25:07.700
and mental health. So this is before COVID. Before

00:25:07.700 --> 00:25:09.700
COVID even happened, I was talking to this guy

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who coaches people on helping them form their

00:25:13.240 --> 00:25:16.079
TEDx talk. And I actually hired this guy. His

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name's Tucker. And anyways, so he's helping me

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apply to these different talks. I was like, I

00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:23.940
don't care where it is. I'll fly wherever. I

00:25:23.940 --> 00:25:28.130
just want to give this talk. Okay. So long story

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short, we're applying to probably, we probably

00:25:31.329 --> 00:25:34.529
applied to over a hundred talks. Okay. Then the

00:25:34.529 --> 00:25:37.710
pandemic happens. All these talks get canceled.

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Right. So after about a year and a half, the

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talks start coming back and we start reapplying.

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We basically get denied from, I think the number

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was 114 talks. Literally every single one. Okay.

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Then. we finally get word that we got accepted,

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okay? Which one? Monroe, Louisiana. Wow. West

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Monroe, Louisiana, all right? January 2023. I

00:26:10.529 --> 00:26:13.329
believe it was 2023. That seems a long time ago,

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like two and something. No, that sounds about

00:26:15.210 --> 00:26:20.130
right. Yeah, okay. So anyways, I'm so excited.

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This is like six months before. I'm like... this

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i honestly have never been more committed to

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something in my life like i would i literally

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had the whole talk like on poster boards i would

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literally spend the first 90 minutes of my day

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like wouldn't touch my phone i was just in a

00:26:34.500 --> 00:26:37.319
pure flow state making sure that i would deliver

00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:40.539
the best talk in my life wow okay 13 minutes

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14 minutes um so feeling really good about everything

00:26:44.740 --> 00:26:50.119
and uh the the talk right not once in the talk

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right i'm following I have a coach for this who's

00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:56.240
helped people with, he's helped many people with

00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:59.039
talks. So we're following all the guidelines.

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I'm not once saying like, you guys should do

00:27:02.819 --> 00:27:05.359
mushrooms or anything like that. I'm literally

00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:08.500
sharing factual research stuff from John Hopkins,

00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:11.440
anecdotal stuff, talking about my brother's story

00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:13.660
with depression and all of the medications he's

00:27:13.660 --> 00:27:18.779
been on. Like everything that I said was factually

00:27:18.779 --> 00:27:24.720
correct. And it was also. I ran through it four

00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:28.319
people at TEDx and they basically gave me the

00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:31.319
green light that everything was good. Okay. I

00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:34.819
fly my parents out to freaking Louisiana because

00:27:34.819 --> 00:27:37.099
I want them to be there for this moment. All

00:27:37.099 --> 00:27:40.519
right. So we're at West Monroe, Louisiana and

00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:44.579
there's 12 other people in my group who are giving

00:27:44.579 --> 00:27:51.019
talks. I absolutely destroyed the talk. Crushed

00:27:51.019 --> 00:27:55.680
it. It was incredible. It was unbelievable. At

00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:57.700
least did your parents record it on their phone

00:27:57.700 --> 00:27:59.279
or anything? No, there's no phones recorded.

00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:01.720
Oh, man. You're not allowed? You're not allowed?

00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:05.880
No, you're not allowed. Yeah, so anyways, the

00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:08.579
talk ends. Literally, I had like three or four

00:28:08.579 --> 00:28:10.819
medical doctors come up to me who were in the

00:28:10.819 --> 00:28:14.519
audience after the talk, and they're like, I've

00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:18.500
never heard anyone break down the science. of

00:28:18.500 --> 00:28:21.039
psilocybin and talk about like antidepressants

00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:25.680
in as eloquent of a way as you did in such an

00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:28.680
efficient time it was like 12 or 13 minutes anyways

00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:32.660
two months later three months later other people

00:28:32.660 --> 00:28:35.400
from my group their talks start to get published

00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:38.460
on youtube i'm like okay all right mine's gonna

00:28:38.460 --> 00:28:41.619
happen any day now right so i get notified by

00:28:41.619 --> 00:28:44.940
the guy tucker hey um they wanna they're just

00:28:44.940 --> 00:28:48.710
gonna um put put yours through like another uh

00:28:48.710 --> 00:28:53.390
like trial because there's like sensitive topics

00:28:53.390 --> 00:28:55.690
talked about and there's two other people i think

00:28:55.690 --> 00:28:59.109
that had the same thing just to make sure that

00:28:59.109 --> 00:29:01.690
it didn't go against any violations or that didn't

00:29:01.690 --> 00:29:05.089
violate any protocols it's like okay that's not

00:29:05.089 --> 00:29:07.369
completely unexpected we're talking about a somewhat

00:29:07.369 --> 00:29:10.730
sensitive subject um but then i see their talks

00:29:10.730 --> 00:29:13.819
get published like okay what's going on It's

00:29:13.819 --> 00:29:15.920
probably four or five months after the fact now,

00:29:15.980 --> 00:29:20.799
after the talk. I then get a voice note from

00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:24.380
the guy, from TEDx, basically saying, listen,

00:29:24.460 --> 00:29:29.299
man, we're not going to publish your talk. Like

00:29:29.299 --> 00:29:31.799
your talk's not going to get published. And I

00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:36.700
was about to go on this Summit at Sea cruise

00:29:36.700 --> 00:29:40.380
thing, like literally the day after. So I didn't

00:29:40.380 --> 00:29:42.880
really fully process. everything that was happening

00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:44.740
i was like okay i'm gonna make sure i get this

00:29:44.740 --> 00:29:48.200
talk published you know what i mean but uh after

00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:49.819
a couple months i was like listen man like this

00:29:49.819 --> 00:29:53.500
is insane like at least give me my talk the file

00:29:53.500 --> 00:29:56.440
so i can post it on my platforms he's like oh

00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:58.960
no we can't do that because actually the talk

00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:02.400
owns is belonged belongs to ted wow they own

00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:05.769
the talk and i'm like you're joking right like

00:30:05.769 --> 00:30:09.410
this is absolutely criminal like literally years

00:30:09.410 --> 00:30:15.450
went into this experience and um fast forward

00:30:15.450 --> 00:30:19.069
we're recording at the end of may 2025 i still

00:30:19.069 --> 00:30:21.509
have never seen the talk i've tried to like email

00:30:21.509 --> 00:30:26.130
people from ted it's been probably one of the

00:30:26.130 --> 00:30:29.890
more painful experiences i've ever navigated

00:30:29.890 --> 00:30:32.390
because literally if that talk would have gone

00:30:32.390 --> 00:30:34.700
it would have done so much like it would have

00:30:34.700 --> 00:30:37.359
moved the needle in a massive way so why don't

00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.539
you recreate the talk with the same powerpoints

00:30:40.539 --> 00:30:45.759
on your own show and just do it yeah no i know

00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.200
i still have the powerpoints right yeah like

00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:50.900
it's not even do it i know i've i've a couple

00:30:50.900 --> 00:30:54.440
people have mentioned that i don't know i it

00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:58.390
was because you have a pretty big platform Would

00:30:58.390 --> 00:31:00.789
it be flagged if you did that presentation and

00:31:00.789 --> 00:31:04.410
posted it? No, probably not. Literally, I've

00:31:04.410 --> 00:31:10.369
said way more. There's literally nothing. The

00:31:10.369 --> 00:31:11.849
thing that was most disappointing, honestly,

00:31:12.069 --> 00:31:14.750
was just the lack of accountability by grown

00:31:14.750 --> 00:31:17.490
-ass men. These guys are in their 50s. This guy

00:31:17.490 --> 00:31:21.710
paid to coach me and make sure this stuff didn't

00:31:21.710 --> 00:31:24.109
happen. And it was like he completely ghosted

00:31:24.109 --> 00:31:27.789
me after the fact. And there's just. You paying

00:31:27.789 --> 00:31:30.329
a lot of money? I mean, yeah, for me it was a

00:31:30.329 --> 00:31:33.170
lot of money. I mean, it was, yeah, like, but

00:31:33.170 --> 00:31:35.309
that's not even the point. It was literally like

00:31:35.309 --> 00:31:41.390
three years of my life. Yeah. And so this was

00:31:41.390 --> 00:31:44.049
one of the things, like, I was holding on to

00:31:44.049 --> 00:31:47.089
a lot of anger and resentment about this. So

00:31:47.089 --> 00:31:49.730
during my ayahuasca experience, most recently,

00:31:49.730 --> 00:31:52.890
last week, I was like, man, please, just, I want

00:31:52.890 --> 00:31:55.759
to release any. weight that I'm holding on to

00:31:55.759 --> 00:31:58.519
that's preventing me from... In general. Yeah.

00:31:58.539 --> 00:32:00.980
In general. Yeah. Yeah. Because if you're holding

00:32:00.980 --> 00:32:04.640
on to that resentment and anger, you're not going

00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:06.319
to allow, you're not going to, you're not going

00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:08.559
to bring in better opportunities until you clear

00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:11.819
that up. Yeah. Yeah. So... You need to be completely

00:32:11.819 --> 00:32:15.660
free of everything. Yeah. So you can soar. Yeah.

00:32:15.700 --> 00:32:19.500
It's not easy, but... So what happened? So I

00:32:19.500 --> 00:32:21.119
mean... So you sat with the medicine last week.

00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:24.359
Yes. And this came up. You put it out there,

00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:27.819
God, higher power, please show me what I need

00:32:27.819 --> 00:32:30.700
to see that's getting in the way of being the

00:32:30.700 --> 00:32:35.319
best version of myself. And this came up. Just,

00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:38.440
yeah, this experience came up. Some of the other

00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:42.480
instances, because I'm like, yo, I've been just...

00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:46.160
I'm working relentlessly nonstop. I'm like, there's

00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:48.019
times where I'm like, I should be further along

00:32:48.019 --> 00:32:50.640
in certain areas, right? And then I look back

00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:53.299
at some of these obstacles and challenges. I'm

00:32:53.299 --> 00:32:58.180
like, this is crazy. I feel like so many things

00:32:58.180 --> 00:33:02.359
have just happened to me. So the medicine was

00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:04.599
telling me, bro, you've got to get out. You can't

00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:08.960
play the victim. You can't. Yeah, these things

00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:14.200
are pretty fucked up that happened. So it's it's

00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:18.200
it's finding this balance between like, OK, this

00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:21.660
happened. It's really shitty. I'm going to have

00:33:21.660 --> 00:33:27.180
grace for myself. And if I continue to just relive

00:33:27.180 --> 00:33:31.099
the past. That's not going to serve me or anyone

00:33:31.099 --> 00:33:36.400
else in a positive way. So, yeah, there's there's

00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:38.160
and there's the people, too. There's the people

00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:42.299
like if I told you I. You can feel the emotion.

00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:47.319
If I said I was completely released of resent

00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:49.920
towards those people, resentment towards those

00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.500
people from TEDx, I would be lying. It's not

00:33:52.500 --> 00:33:58.619
completely gone. Because I think... I could just

00:33:58.619 --> 00:34:02.799
never imagine myself doing something like that.

00:34:02.980 --> 00:34:07.599
It's just horrific. Some people... Some people

00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:12.340
are just operating at such a low level of integrity.

00:34:12.579 --> 00:34:14.800
You haven't found compassion for them. At some

00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:16.619
point you'll find compassion for them, and then

00:34:16.619 --> 00:34:18.159
maybe that'll help. But you have to also think

00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:20.420
that they might be somehow controlled by pharma.

00:34:20.980 --> 00:34:23.239
Pharma doesn't want people to know that there

00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:26.079
is a very cheap substance out there that won't

00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:29.260
make you addicted. it will actually help strengthen

00:34:29.260 --> 00:34:32.980
your brain and allow you to come out of the depression

00:34:32.980 --> 00:34:36.420
because the pharmaceutical industry for depression

00:34:36.420 --> 00:34:40.380
medication is huge. Of course. Huge. And it is

00:34:40.380 --> 00:34:43.239
not reversing depression. It's just turning people

00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:46.380
into zombies. Yeah. This actually connects them

00:34:46.380 --> 00:34:49.179
to their higher self. This actually brings them

00:34:49.179 --> 00:34:53.019
out and uplifted, not needing pharma because

00:34:53.019 --> 00:34:55.320
you become more conscious and alert. Exactly.

00:34:55.849 --> 00:34:58.369
So it's not like you had, you know, a couple

00:34:58.369 --> 00:35:01.449
of dopes who was trying to stop you. They probably

00:35:01.449 --> 00:35:04.889
received a phone call that said, you're not going

00:35:04.889 --> 00:35:08.690
to let that show air. That's probably more likely

00:35:08.690 --> 00:35:10.889
what happened. And these people probably have

00:35:10.889 --> 00:35:13.829
a family, and they're living paycheck to paycheck,

00:35:14.110 --> 00:35:16.989
right, on a very expensive salary, and they probably

00:35:16.989 --> 00:35:18.969
can't, you know, find a job somewhere else. So

00:35:18.969 --> 00:35:20.889
they're not going to stand their ground and say

00:35:20.889 --> 00:35:24.570
the truth. Think about... So many other situations

00:35:24.570 --> 00:35:27.809
where this has happened, where intelligent people

00:35:27.809 --> 00:35:30.769
know what they're doing is wrong, but because

00:35:30.769 --> 00:35:32.289
they're afraid to lose their job, they're not

00:35:32.289 --> 00:35:34.829
going to say anything. We're in the minority

00:35:34.829 --> 00:35:37.210
that we're willing to say something no matter

00:35:37.210 --> 00:35:40.030
what because we want to stand in integrity at

00:35:40.030 --> 00:35:42.429
all times. Unfortunately, the majority of the

00:35:42.429 --> 00:35:45.309
population is not like that. At the end of the

00:35:45.309 --> 00:35:48.409
day, it's a process anyway. She can tell you,

00:35:48.449 --> 00:35:50.329
I can tell you until we're blue in the face.

00:35:52.300 --> 00:35:55.559
This is why it happened and get over it. It doesn't

00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:57.900
matter. You have to get to that place yourself

00:35:57.900 --> 00:36:00.099
at some point. And everybody on the show who

00:36:00.099 --> 00:36:02.320
comes on the show has experienced a period of

00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:04.159
cancellation, has gone through everything that

00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:07.639
you felt. The anger, resentment, sadness, whatever

00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:09.960
it is. It sounds like all those emotions bubbled

00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:14.159
up for you. So how bad did it get? I mean, were

00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:17.840
you walking around with low -level anger all

00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.019
the time or did it arise at certain... instances

00:36:21.019 --> 00:36:25.179
i think no definitely not at all times but i

00:36:25.179 --> 00:36:28.219
i think it was it was one of those things too

00:36:28.219 --> 00:36:32.179
it's like it's kind of hard to fully process

00:36:32.179 --> 00:36:36.000
something like that because it's like okay it

00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:38.840
happened i'm angry i'm upset about it all right

00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:42.800
like let's move on but then there's those times

00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:44.920
where out of nowhere you just start thinking

00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:48.659
about it Right. And then you talk to a friend

00:36:48.659 --> 00:36:51.340
and they're like prepping for their TEDx talk.

00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:56.480
And it's like, oh, I remember the days. I remember

00:36:56.480 --> 00:36:59.699
the days. So there's just these little things

00:36:59.699 --> 00:37:05.159
that like trigger the conversation again. So,

00:37:05.260 --> 00:37:07.820
yeah, there's that. And then and then there's

00:37:07.820 --> 00:37:12.760
I would say the most recent instance when I got

00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:16.380
erased. It wasn't necessarily from a platform,

00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:22.300
but it was after October 7th. Gaza and Israel.

00:37:22.300 --> 00:37:24.880
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was a very interesting

00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:28.179
time as well. What happened? Basically, I had

00:37:28.179 --> 00:37:31.579
never shared anything about my Judaism or anything

00:37:31.579 --> 00:37:35.019
like that on social media, really. It was just

00:37:35.019 --> 00:37:38.420
not like a... I was always proud of being Jewish,

00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:39.659
but it just wasn't like a big... You didn't wear

00:37:39.659 --> 00:37:41.780
your nice gold chain over here. Yeah, I got this

00:37:41.780 --> 00:37:44.380
after. I got this after. But it wasn't like a

00:37:44.380 --> 00:37:46.320
big part of my identity. You know what I mean?

00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:51.019
And then after that happened, and seeing the

00:37:51.019 --> 00:37:53.400
response from people all over the world, like

00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:55.739
the next day, people are like celebrating in

00:37:55.739 --> 00:37:59.760
the streets. And I was like, this is so messed

00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:04.179
up. Like what? 1 ,200 people just got absolutely...

00:38:05.019 --> 00:38:07.760
ransacked and raped and murdered at a music festival

00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:10.460
like if I was living in Israel I would have been

00:38:10.460 --> 00:38:15.159
at that festival you know and it just hit me

00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:17.840
very hard and I started you know a couple days

00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:20.119
after I was like I couldn't I would wake up at

00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:24.059
3 34 in the morning and I was like it was basically

00:38:24.059 --> 00:38:26.579
just messages from God like yo bro you need to

00:38:26.579 --> 00:38:28.519
speak the truth you need to speak the truth because

00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:31.440
so many people were just it was all anti anti

00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:33.480
-israel this is before even israel started going

00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:36.619
into gaza wow you know and i was like you know

00:38:36.619 --> 00:38:39.059
this is absolutely insane people are saying things

00:38:39.059 --> 00:38:46.480
like um israel is an apartheid state i mean i've

00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:49.260
lived in israel for a year so i know i i mean

00:38:49.260 --> 00:38:51.340
all these people who are just spitting nonsense

00:38:51.340 --> 00:38:55.760
like i can actually pretty much just prove them

00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:57.980
wrong with the facts Because most of these people

00:38:57.980 --> 00:38:59.780
have never actually been there or talked to anyone

00:38:59.780 --> 00:39:02.699
who's lived there. It was regurgitating. Exactly.

00:39:02.739 --> 00:39:07.760
So that was crazy. It was something that I didn't

00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:09.860
even choose to do, honestly. It just felt like

00:39:09.860 --> 00:39:12.639
I would wake up and I was like, I have to talk

00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:15.039
about this. And I was like, everything else feels

00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.539
insignificant to me right now. I'm talking about

00:39:17.539 --> 00:39:20.760
this ingredient. I'm like, yo, it doesn't even

00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:23.780
seem important anymore. You know, I actually

00:39:23.780 --> 00:39:26.820
learned this recently. That when that happens

00:39:26.820 --> 00:39:30.480
and you're not feeling something else, you're

00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:33.820
tapped into feeling this direction, that's God

00:39:33.820 --> 00:39:36.980
talking to you. That's your angels talking to

00:39:36.980 --> 00:39:39.920
you. Because it wants you to do that thing that

00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:42.920
actually feels right. It no longer wants you

00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:45.139
to do that thing that doesn't feel good. And

00:39:45.139 --> 00:39:48.380
I'm actually tapping into this a lot more. Because

00:39:48.380 --> 00:39:51.400
in business, sometimes you need to make a decision

00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.300
whether you go left or right. And just recently,

00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:58.179
even, I was in a situation where, you know, something

00:39:58.179 --> 00:40:02.280
has been coming up. And I just, I felt something

00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:05.840
in my stomach that was like no longer wanting

00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:09.000
to go in this direction. But then I felt guilty

00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:11.500
about that direction. Can't really share what

00:40:11.500 --> 00:40:13.579
that is. You know, yeah. Can't share with it

00:40:13.579 --> 00:40:16.519
right now. But then the other direction that

00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:19.320
I want to go in, I would get butterflies of excitement.

00:40:20.300 --> 00:40:23.059
And then I learned that's because that's your

00:40:23.059 --> 00:40:25.360
message. That's your messaging from God and your

00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:29.380
angels to help guide you. So the more you tap

00:40:29.380 --> 00:40:31.480
into that and the more you listen to that, you'll

00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:34.260
know what direction you always need to be in

00:40:34.260 --> 00:40:37.579
and what you need to talk about. And so not talking

00:40:37.579 --> 00:40:40.159
about ingredients isn't lighting that fire in

00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:43.119
your soul, isn't exciting your soul. It means...

00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:45.280
that you're done with that you need to move on

00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:47.559
to the thing that is because that's your voice

00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:50.260
listen to it that's your message it's great advice

00:40:50.260 --> 00:40:53.420
honestly and david i would love you can you can

00:40:53.420 --> 00:40:56.590
chime in as well because I feel like you're pretty

00:40:56.590 --> 00:40:59.030
connected as well to your intuition. Yeah, I

00:40:59.030 --> 00:41:01.309
mean, I think God and the angels speaks more

00:41:01.309 --> 00:41:04.530
directly to Leila. They speak to you. You just

00:41:04.530 --> 00:41:08.550
don't listen as much. Because, you know, there's

00:41:08.550 --> 00:41:10.710
one big thing. When you're tapped into God and

00:41:10.710 --> 00:41:12.670
your angels, you cannot be in a state of anxiety.

00:41:13.010 --> 00:41:15.929
You cannot be in a state of fear. Any of these

00:41:15.929 --> 00:41:18.989
states that are in your lower part of your brain,

00:41:19.110 --> 00:41:24.579
you cannot hear. And you meditate a lot. God

00:41:24.579 --> 00:41:27.420
speaks to me, since we're on the subject, in

00:41:27.420 --> 00:41:29.500
a different way than I think God speaks with

00:41:29.500 --> 00:41:31.639
her. When I meditate, when I get my brainwaves

00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:34.019
to slow down to the place where I really want

00:41:34.019 --> 00:41:38.179
it to be, I have an epiphany. And that is God

00:41:38.179 --> 00:41:41.579
speaking to me. What's a recent example of that?

00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:47.699
Oh, gosh. You put me on the spot. I think, I

00:41:47.699 --> 00:41:53.250
don't know. There's a guy that we met who we

00:41:53.250 --> 00:41:59.150
think is cheating on his wife, and I just really

00:41:59.150 --> 00:42:05.269
connected with him, you know, his feelings. I

00:42:05.269 --> 00:42:07.909
don't know what's going on with him. And I felt

00:42:07.909 --> 00:42:11.050
I need to distance myself, you know, because

00:42:11.050 --> 00:42:13.789
I think it's not an energy that I want to be

00:42:13.789 --> 00:42:15.590
around. I just want to, you know, I love what

00:42:15.590 --> 00:42:19.489
we have, you know. So I think that was an epiphany

00:42:19.489 --> 00:42:22.510
for me. And I felt really close to you. And then

00:42:22.510 --> 00:42:24.570
I sent you that text, you know. I sent you, I

00:42:24.570 --> 00:42:27.530
was way. I sent her a text saying how much I

00:42:27.530 --> 00:42:32.070
appreciate her. What did I say? How much I love

00:42:32.070 --> 00:42:35.690
her. It must be tough, too, because you guys

00:42:35.690 --> 00:42:39.719
are managing a lot of energy. I know it's mostly

00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:41.260
you at the school, but you said you're getting

00:42:41.260 --> 00:42:43.659
more involved. He's very busy. He has, you know,

00:42:43.699 --> 00:42:46.539
he's got the farm. He's got a race. He's got

00:42:46.539 --> 00:42:48.880
a lot of things, you know, and he's the leader

00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:51.860
of the brotherhood at our school. So he's got

00:42:51.860 --> 00:42:54.179
a lot of things going on. Yeah. But, you know,

00:42:54.179 --> 00:42:56.719
I'll tell you, for me, it happened very recently

00:42:56.719 --> 00:42:59.559
in the wellness center. You know, just like I

00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:03.400
feel like God putting a fragile soul on our lap.

00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:07.300
who the medical industry sent her home to die.

00:43:07.460 --> 00:43:11.440
She had literally 14 days to live. They massively

00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:15.099
radiated her body four different times, burned

00:43:15.099 --> 00:43:17.800
her with chemo, and on the last round of chemo

00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:19.860
was like, your body's not going to take any more

00:43:19.860 --> 00:43:22.019
of what we're throwing at you, so we're going

00:43:22.019 --> 00:43:25.110
to send you home to hospice. get everything in

00:43:25.110 --> 00:43:27.909
order, young 36 -year -old girl, beautiful girl,

00:43:28.110 --> 00:43:31.750
65 pounds, and told the parents to basically

00:43:31.750 --> 00:43:36.309
just say your goodbyes. Two weeks. So you had

00:43:36.309 --> 00:43:39.530
two weeks to live. This was March 1st. And God

00:43:39.530 --> 00:43:43.170
orchestrated putting her on our lap, and we are

00:43:43.170 --> 00:43:45.389
now over two months later. Her cancer markers

00:43:45.389 --> 00:43:48.269
are going down, and she's far from on death's

00:43:48.269 --> 00:43:53.440
door. And I feel like... God has been talking

00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:59.300
to me about her and just kind of refocusing my

00:43:59.300 --> 00:44:02.760
inspiration, which is really getting people to

00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:04.800
understand that there is an alternative way.

00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:07.780
Focus on cleaning your body, getting the toxins

00:44:07.780 --> 00:44:10.460
out. Don't wait until you have cancer. Take care

00:44:10.460 --> 00:44:13.460
of yourself now. But God forbid you do get cancer,

00:44:13.539 --> 00:44:15.960
it doesn't mean you need to radiate and poison

00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:20.480
yourself. Go explore alternatives first, right?

00:44:21.019 --> 00:44:22.920
And it's interesting because I've been spending

00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:25.699
a lot of time with this young lady and she's

00:44:25.699 --> 00:44:28.139
really, that's her passion now. She wants to

00:44:28.139 --> 00:44:30.199
share with the world. Of course. That there are

00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:33.000
options. And even if your medical team does send

00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:35.920
you home to die, like they did with her in a

00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:38.840
traditional hospital, that doesn't mean you need

00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:42.480
to accept it. Yeah. You can say, kiss my ass,

00:44:42.619 --> 00:44:44.820
you're not God. You don't get to tell me to go

00:44:44.820 --> 00:44:48.019
home and die. That's, I mean, that's, we've talked

00:44:48.019 --> 00:44:50.300
about it before, but that's like, that's really,

00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:55.280
That's the definition, I think, of hero's journey

00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:57.599
is like you go through a massive challenge or

00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:00.780
obstacle in your life. You survive it. And now,

00:45:00.820 --> 00:45:02.719
of course, you're going to want to help others

00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:06.420
overcome the same. Same with you when you were

00:45:06.420 --> 00:45:09.039
struggling with Lyme. And then that's what led

00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:11.960
you to find. I mean, there's no one. It's not

00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:16.239
like you chose to do all of these things just

00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:18.039
because your life and your health was amazing.

00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:20.900
You were going through your own struggles. And

00:45:20.900 --> 00:45:23.699
then you are kind of forced to be your own healer.

00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:26.400
And now it's like you're opening up these centers

00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:30.019
so others can access the same things. And it's

00:45:30.019 --> 00:45:32.739
like David, I think, is similar with all the

00:45:32.739 --> 00:45:35.780
stuff that he does. When I met David, he was

00:45:35.780 --> 00:45:40.090
growing tomatoes in his apartment. Huge tomatoes

00:45:40.090 --> 00:45:42.949
like this big in one of the bedrooms of his apartment.

00:45:43.210 --> 00:45:48.150
This is in New York. This was 13 years ago, 14

00:45:48.150 --> 00:45:51.130
years ago. He was growing tomatoes in his apartment.

00:45:51.369 --> 00:45:54.250
So it kind of makes sense we own a regenerative

00:45:54.250 --> 00:45:56.530
farm, right? Were you always interested in that?

00:45:56.670 --> 00:45:58.650
I was super interested in that stuff, growing

00:45:58.650 --> 00:46:02.500
food. I love that stuff. I still haven't been

00:46:02.500 --> 00:46:04.159
to the farm, by the way. You need to come. It's

00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:06.960
amazing. It's a really special place. For the

00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:09.179
audience, it's a regenerative agriculture farm

00:46:09.179 --> 00:46:13.059
in South Miami, about 34 acres. We grow everything

00:46:13.059 --> 00:46:16.960
you can imagine there. Plus, we grow food hydroponically.

00:46:17.059 --> 00:46:21.559
We grow fish and shrimp aquaponically. We have

00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:25.360
600 egg layers of chickens. We have honey from

00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:27.320
our bees. And we just started our mushroom production.

00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:29.940
And we also own an 800 -acre ranch in Oklahoma

00:46:29.940 --> 00:46:31.880
where we're producing all of our poultry. And

00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:34.579
what I'm really excited about. And we feed the

00:46:34.579 --> 00:46:37.480
kids in schools. It's literally farm to cafeteria,

00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:41.260
regenerative agriculture food. But we're opening

00:46:41.260 --> 00:46:44.699
our first cafe. In September, right in the middle

00:46:44.699 --> 00:46:47.800
of the city of Miami, Farm to Table Regenerative

00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:49.920
Agriculture. What's it called? Well, the farm

00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.159
is called Regenerate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The cafe

00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:54.599
is going to be called Regenerate Cafe. And where

00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:57.039
is it going to be? 34th and Northwest 2nd Avenue.

00:46:57.179 --> 00:46:59.699
Oh, my. You guys got to involve me in that. Yeah.

00:46:59.699 --> 00:47:02.940
Oh, yeah. We're going to do a huge open house.

00:47:03.019 --> 00:47:04.820
Please. Put in your calendar. It's going to be

00:47:04.820 --> 00:47:07.679
beginning of September. That's going to be sick.

00:47:07.940 --> 00:47:09.599
Right around the corner. It's going to be beautiful.

00:47:09.860 --> 00:47:12.179
So those are my pet projects. I get a lot of

00:47:12.179 --> 00:47:16.900
joy out of that. So back to you. Do you feel,

00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:18.960
you've been through a lot of stuff, a lot of

00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:21.119
downs, a lot of ups, but a lot of downs as well.

00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:24.219
Have you been able to realize there's a purpose,

00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:27.320
grand purpose to all of this? And if so, what

00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:31.019
do you think that purpose is? Yeah, yeah. That's

00:47:31.019 --> 00:47:39.050
a good question. So pretty much, With this most

00:47:39.050 --> 00:47:43.489
recent journey I had in Costa Rica, I sat with

00:47:43.489 --> 00:47:46.510
medicine four nights in a row and I made the

00:47:46.510 --> 00:47:51.210
commitment when I went there, I was like, I'm

00:47:51.210 --> 00:47:55.829
going all in. I'm going to push myself through

00:47:55.829 --> 00:47:58.829
the discomfort. If I'm feeling like, oh, I'm

00:47:58.829 --> 00:48:00.849
good right now, I'm actually going to get up

00:48:00.849 --> 00:48:07.119
and have another cup. That was my mindset. And

00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:11.059
the reason I wanted to do that is because I realized

00:48:11.059 --> 00:48:15.219
like the first, basically the first, Rhythmia

00:48:15.219 --> 00:48:17.219
has this beautiful, I won't go through it all,

00:48:17.300 --> 00:48:18.980
but they have this beautiful kind of like journey

00:48:18.980 --> 00:48:20.739
they take you through where there's three core

00:48:20.739 --> 00:48:23.320
intentions for the week. The first one is show

00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:27.059
me who I've become through all my past traumas

00:48:27.059 --> 00:48:29.760
and events. Like how am I showing up in the world

00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:32.440
now? So like I even journaled like who have I

00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:38.250
become, right? And, you know, I realized that

00:48:38.250 --> 00:48:42.670
through all of these experiences, the person

00:48:42.670 --> 00:48:46.429
I became, and this isn't who I was like a majority

00:48:46.429 --> 00:48:48.949
of the time, right? Still, if you were to see

00:48:48.949 --> 00:48:51.010
me, it's like, oh, like Jeremy, he's just like,

00:48:51.070 --> 00:48:55.050
he's the guy. He's like doing great. But I became

00:48:55.050 --> 00:49:00.449
avoidant, passive aggressive, holding grudges

00:49:00.449 --> 00:49:07.360
and resentful. being impatient, short -term focused,

00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:11.440
hurting people from an unhealed heart. And it

00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:13.460
was all a projection of all these things that

00:49:13.460 --> 00:49:17.960
happened. It was like this, almost like a lack

00:49:17.960 --> 00:49:20.219
of, like a feeling of betrayal and a lack of

00:49:20.219 --> 00:49:23.739
trust. And when there's those feelings, it impacts

00:49:23.739 --> 00:49:26.059
everything, even when you're not even conscious

00:49:26.059 --> 00:49:30.199
of it. So the first thing that I had to do was

00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:33.659
seeing how all of these things impacted my behavior.

00:49:34.349 --> 00:49:36.730
And then once I have the awareness of that, I

00:49:36.730 --> 00:49:39.789
can recognize like, that's not me. That's not

00:49:39.789 --> 00:49:43.570
me. And then it's like, okay. So as the journey

00:49:43.570 --> 00:49:46.469
continues, it was basically like God, the medicine

00:49:46.469 --> 00:49:50.130
saying, listen, man, you are here for a reason,

00:49:50.190 --> 00:49:52.650
a big reason, a bigger reason than most people.

00:49:52.750 --> 00:49:56.289
You're here to make a massive impact. So you're

00:49:56.289 --> 00:49:58.849
going to have to be put through more challenges

00:49:58.849 --> 00:50:02.440
than most people. and i was like i and i remember

00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:05.760
getting that like i remember like getting that

00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:08.739
in the ceremony and i just started laughing i'm

00:50:08.739 --> 00:50:13.099
like oh like it makes sense and i'm like oh like

00:50:13.099 --> 00:50:16.500
okay i get it i get it but like how much more

00:50:16.500 --> 00:50:18.780
of this is gonna happen i feel like you know

00:50:18.780 --> 00:50:23.260
i'm good right now so um that's good yeah so

00:50:23.260 --> 00:50:27.199
so it was it was good and it was also like listen

00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:31.150
i mean it's all It's all part of the story. It's

00:50:31.150 --> 00:50:33.909
all part of the story and it's all part of the

00:50:33.909 --> 00:50:37.150
movie. It's all part of the book. And at the

00:50:37.150 --> 00:50:40.610
end of the day also, I feel like even this last

00:50:40.610 --> 00:50:42.809
experience I had, I went through a lot of pain.

00:50:42.989 --> 00:50:46.210
Like it was very uncomfortable. And I think the

00:50:46.210 --> 00:50:49.409
reason I had to experience all of this was to

00:50:49.409 --> 00:50:52.789
cultivate more compassion for humanity as a whole,

00:50:52.869 --> 00:50:55.300
for people that I work with. For people that

00:50:55.300 --> 00:50:57.659
I'm helping, it's like if I haven't gone through

00:50:57.659 --> 00:51:00.659
any real adversity in my life, then how am I

00:51:00.659 --> 00:51:04.500
supposed to actually be able to hold space and

00:51:04.500 --> 00:51:07.059
sit with someone who's going through a lot of

00:51:07.059 --> 00:51:10.360
really difficult things? So the cancellation,

00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:12.659
basically all of your life's challenges, you

00:51:12.659 --> 00:51:16.300
think, are a grand design to set you up so you

00:51:16.300 --> 00:51:19.480
can really move the needle on humanity. That's

00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:21.900
sort of like the grand purpose of maybe all of

00:51:21.900 --> 00:51:23.820
the struggles that you've been through. Yeah,

00:51:23.820 --> 00:51:29.099
and... But you know, what I've read actually

00:51:29.099 --> 00:51:34.079
says, we all, before we were born, our purpose

00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:37.980
was been written, right? By God, before we were

00:51:37.980 --> 00:51:41.760
born. We all have free will, right? So as we

00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:44.659
go through life and we experience these challenges

00:51:44.659 --> 00:51:48.219
that are meant to level up our soul, that are

00:51:48.219 --> 00:51:51.659
meant to help us go closer towards our purpose,

00:51:51.900 --> 00:51:55.619
everybody has one. It's just who has decided

00:51:55.619 --> 00:52:00.340
to make the decision to go towards that. You

00:52:00.340 --> 00:52:02.860
know what I'm saying? So it's like you look at

00:52:02.860 --> 00:52:07.019
all these people that are in prison or homeless

00:52:07.019 --> 00:52:08.960
people. It doesn't mean they didn't have a purpose.

00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:13.920
They just free will chose to not go in that direction.

00:52:14.059 --> 00:52:17.500
I mean, I was 13 and my best friends were pregnant.

00:52:17.860 --> 00:52:21.579
We lived in a horrible neighborhood, you know,

00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:24.980
drug infested, gang infested. But I made different

00:52:24.980 --> 00:52:28.659
choices. I had we all had free will. Right. And

00:52:28.659 --> 00:52:31.170
so. You know, it's just a matter of listening

00:52:31.170 --> 00:52:33.690
and tuning in, and that's what you're doing.

00:52:33.710 --> 00:52:36.349
You're listening and you're tuning in, so you're

00:52:36.349 --> 00:52:39.809
following your purpose, your grand purpose to

00:52:39.809 --> 00:52:42.329
here make this world a better place, which we

00:52:42.329 --> 00:52:45.670
all have that. It's just most people don't listen

00:52:45.670 --> 00:52:48.030
to it. You know, I think one thing that we have

00:52:48.030 --> 00:52:49.610
in common that I think you would agree on is

00:52:49.610 --> 00:52:53.030
we have a tremendous amount of courage. Why do

00:52:53.030 --> 00:52:55.269
you think you have so much courage? Where did

00:52:55.269 --> 00:52:59.000
that come from? Were you born with it? Where

00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:01.199
does courage come from? Because a lot of people

00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:03.340
can't go down the path that you've gone down.

00:53:03.500 --> 00:53:05.460
They just can't and they won't. Their entire

00:53:05.460 --> 00:53:10.019
life. That's interesting. First of all, I love

00:53:10.019 --> 00:53:13.980
all of your Kabbalah teachings. By the way, I'm

00:53:13.980 --> 00:53:16.480
really good friends with Raheli and I think her

00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:19.119
dad, Eitan, right? Yeah, he's my teacher. That's

00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:23.179
amazing. That's an interesting question, David.

00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:26.059
It's funny because I don't even think I've ever

00:53:26.059 --> 00:53:30.449
really considered myself to be, courageous until

00:53:30.449 --> 00:53:33.530
actually this past week and it came it actually

00:53:33.530 --> 00:53:36.730
came up because it was like the universe and

00:53:36.730 --> 00:53:41.010
god always rewards bravery so like doing hard

00:53:41.010 --> 00:53:45.030
things usually gets rewarded at some point right

00:53:45.030 --> 00:53:51.190
um and man i just feel like like i just have

00:53:51.190 --> 00:53:55.530
i i genuinely have so much gratitude for my parents

00:53:55.530 --> 00:53:57.769
I have so much gratitude for my grandparents

00:53:57.769 --> 00:54:01.130
who are all deceased I have so much gratitude

00:54:01.130 --> 00:54:04.389
for honestly all of the people who are part of

00:54:04.389 --> 00:54:06.570
my lineage that I never had the chance to meet

00:54:06.570 --> 00:54:09.190
and that sacrificed so much to give me this opportunity

00:54:09.190 --> 00:54:13.190
so I feel like an obligation to just make the

00:54:13.190 --> 00:54:18.090
most of this life that I've been gifted and yeah

00:54:18.090 --> 00:54:23.769
like I just don't want to, I don't want to ask

00:54:23.769 --> 00:54:26.130
myself later in life, like, what if, like, what

00:54:26.130 --> 00:54:28.429
if I would have, you know, really just gone all

00:54:28.429 --> 00:54:33.630
in on myself and pursued my path. So, you know,

00:54:33.630 --> 00:54:35.750
I think especially the last couple of years,

00:54:35.809 --> 00:54:37.590
I could feel some of these different things were

00:54:37.590 --> 00:54:43.010
weighing down on me. And I didn't want that to

00:54:43.010 --> 00:54:46.789
continue. So I needed to make a change, you know,

00:54:46.809 --> 00:54:49.639
like. insanity is doing the same thing over and

00:54:49.639 --> 00:54:51.579
over again and expecting a different result.

00:54:51.780 --> 00:54:53.840
So it was like, okay, I haven't sat with the

00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:56.380
medicine in like two and a half years. Rhythmia

00:54:56.380 --> 00:55:00.059
contacted me because they want to be partners

00:55:00.059 --> 00:55:02.960
with me as we're building something, a really

00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:05.280
cool program together. And I was like, okay,

00:55:05.420 --> 00:55:08.719
they're flying me out there. This is amazing.

00:55:08.940 --> 00:55:13.239
I'm definitely going to say yes to this and just

00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:18.510
surrender completely. I think that, first of

00:55:18.510 --> 00:55:19.789
all, I disagree with you. I think you've been

00:55:19.789 --> 00:55:22.650
a very courageous person for a really long time.

00:55:22.849 --> 00:55:25.010
It's inherently in you. And it might be inherently

00:55:25.010 --> 00:55:27.489
within us. We might have been born with it and

00:55:27.489 --> 00:55:29.510
put into specific circumstances that were very

00:55:29.510 --> 00:55:32.110
challenging and that courage needed to come into

00:55:32.110 --> 00:55:35.110
play at some point as those situations arose.

00:55:35.289 --> 00:55:38.650
And we rose up to the occasion. I think that's

00:55:38.650 --> 00:55:40.449
what happened. Some people, and I'm sure you

00:55:40.449 --> 00:55:43.590
meet people all the time in your line of work

00:55:43.590 --> 00:55:47.389
trying to get people to maybe, lean into microdosing

00:55:47.389 --> 00:55:50.630
or whatever it is many people are not up for

00:55:50.630 --> 00:55:52.889
it yeah right they're just not up for it and

00:55:52.889 --> 00:55:56.530
they're not going to never will well that that's

00:55:56.530 --> 00:55:59.010
that's a good point and i think they're afraid

00:55:59.010 --> 00:56:02.909
to see the truth exactly and i think and i think

00:56:02.909 --> 00:56:05.329
that that's really what comes down to it it's

00:56:05.329 --> 00:56:09.429
i'm at this point i'm so committed another thing

00:56:09.429 --> 00:56:11.389
that came through for me is last week was just

00:56:11.389 --> 00:56:15.730
living a life fully aligned with the truth yeah

00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:20.900
in every in every aspect of the word so like

00:56:20.900 --> 00:56:26.519
not being even a little bit dishonest about anything

00:56:26.519 --> 00:56:29.860
you know because it's very easy it's very easy

00:56:29.860 --> 00:56:32.260
you know like to be 90 % honest and then like

00:56:32.260 --> 00:56:34.940
when there's little inconvenient moments like

00:56:34.940 --> 00:56:37.139
you can kind of bend around things and the medicine

00:56:37.139 --> 00:56:39.539
was telling me like bro keep going all in on

00:56:39.539 --> 00:56:43.960
the truth the truth will set you free and we're

00:56:43.960 --> 00:56:47.650
living in a world right now where people don't

00:56:47.650 --> 00:56:50.969
know what's real, what's AI, the real thing that's

00:56:50.969 --> 00:56:53.530
going to separate, in my opinion, the real thing

00:56:53.530 --> 00:56:56.130
that's going to separate people for the next

00:56:56.130 --> 00:56:59.530
couple decades is who is actually courageous

00:56:59.530 --> 00:57:02.550
enough to be authentic? Who is courageous enough

00:57:02.550 --> 00:57:05.769
to be themselves? That's why I'm so... You've

00:57:05.769 --> 00:57:07.929
been doing this for a while, but I'm so happy

00:57:07.929 --> 00:57:11.230
that David is doing this because I think I've

00:57:11.230 --> 00:57:13.730
been saying it for a couple years. I'm like...

00:57:14.279 --> 00:57:16.719
Obviously, this man has so much wisdom and knowledge

00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:18.639
to share based on your whole human experience.

00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:22.239
And now, like, the world gets to be blessed with

00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:25.400
some of that knowledge. And you get to share

00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:27.579
some of your truth because I think it's so important

00:57:27.579 --> 00:57:31.179
for you. His episode has been, you know, high

00:57:31.179 --> 00:57:33.780
up there. Yeah. They like his words. They want

00:57:33.780 --> 00:57:36.639
to hear more from you, honey. I will. I am. And

00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:38.219
I'm more comfortable doing it. I'm sort of like

00:57:38.219 --> 00:57:39.519
you at the beginning of your journey, you know,

00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:41.320
where you're like, do people really want to hear

00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:44.780
what I have to say? You know. camera shy a little

00:57:44.780 --> 00:57:46.780
bit but I'm feeling I'm plowing through that

00:57:46.780 --> 00:57:50.219
and I'm feeling better yeah I'm fine well I think

00:57:50.219 --> 00:57:54.739
also I think also for you guys as a as a unit

00:57:54.739 --> 00:57:58.179
it's like I've told you guys both too there's

00:57:58.179 --> 00:58:00.500
very few people in the world that someone like

00:58:00.500 --> 00:58:05.510
me has to look up to not only from like a business

00:58:05.510 --> 00:58:07.530
and success point of view, because there's tons

00:58:07.530 --> 00:58:10.690
of successful people, right? But it's like, who

00:58:10.690 --> 00:58:13.650
has actually replicated that success in other

00:58:13.650 --> 00:58:16.849
areas of life? Who's actually using their success

00:58:16.849 --> 00:58:20.409
and their abundance for making the world a better

00:58:20.409 --> 00:58:22.929
place, for giving back to the community, right?

00:58:23.010 --> 00:58:26.010
Who's showing up as a powerful, present husband,

00:58:26.289 --> 00:58:30.289
wife, mom, dad? There's very few people in the

00:58:30.289 --> 00:58:32.429
world who are actually embodying all of those.

00:58:33.730 --> 00:58:36.969
You know, we were broken. We've come from very

00:58:36.969 --> 00:58:39.289
broken backgrounds. But when we first met...

00:58:39.289 --> 00:58:43.670
We were broke with no money and broken. So when

00:58:43.670 --> 00:58:46.329
we first met, literally our second date, she

00:58:46.329 --> 00:58:49.690
started talking about self -improvement and Tony

00:58:49.690 --> 00:58:51.889
Robbins tapes and all that. I'm like, this is

00:58:51.889 --> 00:58:54.460
great. Because I'm into self -improvement as

00:58:54.460 --> 00:58:57.119
well. And anybody asks me for relationship advice,

00:58:57.239 --> 00:58:59.099
I always tell them, you know, find somebody who's

00:58:59.099 --> 00:59:01.320
into improving themselves because that is super

00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:03.139
sustainable. If you're into improving yourself

00:59:03.139 --> 00:59:05.960
and your partner is not, it's not going to work.

00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:07.699
It's not going to work. And we can look back

00:59:07.699 --> 00:59:09.659
now after all the work that we've done on ourselves.

00:59:09.880 --> 00:59:11.619
Oh, my God. It's amazing we're still together

00:59:11.619 --> 00:59:14.500
because at the beginning we were, you know, coming

00:59:14.500 --> 00:59:16.860
from a lot of rough. It was rough. There were

00:59:16.860 --> 00:59:21.000
challenges. If he didn't work on himself individually,

00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:23.400
I didn't work on myself individually, and we

00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:26.119
didn't work on our relationship, it wouldn't

00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:28.400
have lasted. That's why divorces have such a

00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:31.380
high percentage right now. I've heard people

00:59:31.380 --> 00:59:36.320
say, I am who I am, so deal with it. I'm sorry,

00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:39.380
but that's bullshit. What you're saying is you

00:59:39.380 --> 00:59:42.099
are who you are. You're not willing to grow and

00:59:42.099 --> 00:59:44.739
evolve your soul. You're going to stay here and

00:59:44.739 --> 00:59:47.320
live on this planet and stay the same person

00:59:47.320 --> 00:59:50.710
that you were? Even no matter if it's whatever

00:59:50.710 --> 00:59:53.929
it is, we always, as I look at it this way, just

00:59:53.929 --> 00:59:56.030
like in business, every day is an opportunity

00:59:56.030 --> 00:59:58.530
to be better than the previous day. Continuous

00:59:58.530 --> 01:00:01.210
improvement. Your soul is the same way. Every

01:00:01.210 --> 01:00:03.730
day is an opportunity to level up your soul.

01:00:03.809 --> 01:00:07.710
And so the day you die. So that's the advice

01:00:07.710 --> 01:00:11.070
that we both give people looking for a relationship

01:00:11.070 --> 01:00:15.760
or new couples. focus on your soul focus on leveling

01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:18.900
up your soul and do it separately and do it together

01:00:18.900 --> 01:00:22.639
we've done things separately you know we do things

01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:25.300
together but i will tell you our relationship

01:00:25.300 --> 01:00:27.719
wouldn't have lasted if one of us was like i

01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:30.360
am who i am deal with it yeah yeah the other

01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:32.519
would be like all right well i'm out of here

01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:34.750
was there ever a point where it got Close to

01:00:34.750 --> 01:00:37.010
that or not? Never. That was one of the beautiful

01:00:37.010 --> 01:00:39.750
things that we have in our relationship. Actually,

01:00:39.829 --> 01:00:42.190
it's the opposite. When one of us goes somewhere

01:00:42.190 --> 01:00:44.349
and levels up, the other person's like, I want

01:00:44.349 --> 01:00:47.789
some of that. Oh, shit, they're ahead. Yeah,

01:00:47.809 --> 01:00:50.070
well, there's also like the notion of, there's

01:00:50.070 --> 01:00:52.590
also like, you know. It's almost like a spiritual

01:00:52.590 --> 01:00:54.530
competitive game where it's like, oh, my God,

01:00:54.550 --> 01:00:58.760
that guy. You know, he went to this and he came

01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:01.480
back even calmer. Well, how can I go to that?

01:01:01.579 --> 01:01:03.460
Like, sign me up. Like, that's how a relationship

01:01:03.460 --> 01:01:04.840
is. That's what happened with the first India

01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:07.199
trip, right? You came back and then you wanted

01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:10.059
to go. Exactly. Yeah. Like, I want some of that.

01:01:10.599 --> 01:01:13.059
Yeah. And then he'll go do something and I'm

01:01:13.059 --> 01:01:15.300
like, honey, wow, you came back super calm. I

01:01:15.300 --> 01:01:17.159
need to go to that. When's the last thing that

01:01:17.159 --> 01:01:19.659
he went to and he came back and you're like,

01:01:19.719 --> 01:01:22.300
I need to do that? I think it was probably karma.

01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:26.760
You went to karma with our Indian ashram. Yeah.

01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:28.940
It was about karma. He did a karma thing. He

01:01:28.940 --> 01:01:31.360
came back, like, super peaceful and calm. And

01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:33.340
I was like, I'm signing up for the next one.

01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:36.739
And did that already happen? Did you go? Of course.

01:01:36.940 --> 01:01:40.199
Yeah. When are you guys next doing that? Don't

01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:43.079
you guys do one a year? Yeah. I do maybe one

01:01:43.079 --> 01:01:44.800
or two a year. But now we're doing, you know,

01:01:44.820 --> 01:01:46.360
he's doing some different things. Yeah, I just

01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:49.940
love the modalities that I'm doing. Yeah. There's

01:01:49.940 --> 01:01:51.750
a lot of ways to skin a cat. You know, for anybody

01:01:51.750 --> 01:01:53.150
in the audience, you know, if you want to level

01:01:53.150 --> 01:01:56.130
up your soul, there's really so many things to

01:01:56.130 --> 01:01:58.730
lean on to. Well, there's also... Wait, sorry,

01:01:58.730 --> 01:02:00.690
hold on one second. Monica, are you saying it's

01:02:00.690 --> 01:02:04.590
time? What was the sign? I said wrap. How many

01:02:04.590 --> 01:02:08.030
minutes do we have left? It's 520. Yeah? It's

01:02:08.030 --> 01:02:10.590
520, and your next one is at 545. I'll give you

01:02:10.590 --> 01:02:13.030
another one. Me and David, or just me? Just you.

01:02:13.849 --> 01:02:15.849
520? Okay, so we have a good five minutes. Yeah,

01:02:15.849 --> 01:02:18.750
we're good. Monica, can you get a little B -roll?

01:02:22.819 --> 01:02:25.179
Okay. Monica, can you get a little B -roll with

01:02:25.179 --> 01:02:28.860
my phone? Yeah. It's right here. Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:02:29.340 --> 01:02:31.659
Thank you. Yeah, you can post and collaborate.

01:02:32.059 --> 01:02:36.500
Yeah, yeah. So there's something interesting

01:02:36.500 --> 01:02:40.380
about this, right? Because it's like 1 ,000 %

01:02:40.380 --> 01:02:41.699
agree. Wait, Monica, I think he wants B -roll

01:02:41.699 --> 01:02:44.789
here. Where'd you go? Yeah, B -roll here. Yeah,

01:02:44.829 --> 01:02:47.010
she's going to get it there. Okay, so do it again.

01:02:47.070 --> 01:02:49.110
Sorry, sorry. Start over, start over. Sorry,

01:02:49.130 --> 01:02:54.010
sorry. Monica knows what's up. So there's everything

01:02:54.010 --> 01:02:57.030
that you were just saying about like the best

01:02:57.030 --> 01:02:59.789
way for a relationship to really thrive is both

01:02:59.789 --> 01:03:02.989
people be on their own journey of elevating and

01:03:02.989 --> 01:03:06.230
expanding. And then collectively you have that

01:03:06.230 --> 01:03:08.489
mindset. And then it's like you go to places

01:03:08.489 --> 01:03:12.409
that you can never imagine. And then there's

01:03:12.409 --> 01:03:14.929
the notion of like, You shouldn't try to change

01:03:14.929 --> 01:03:18.110
someone, right? You should accept people for

01:03:18.110 --> 01:03:24.449
who they are. So where do you kind of find the

01:03:24.449 --> 01:03:26.929
balance in that? Well, you don't try and change

01:03:26.929 --> 01:03:29.170
the other person. You work on yourself. That

01:03:29.170 --> 01:03:31.349
was the biggest message I got when I went to

01:03:31.349 --> 01:03:35.690
India first without him. And it just, everything

01:03:35.690 --> 01:03:39.630
hit me like, oh my God, like I realized. You

01:03:39.630 --> 01:03:41.590
know, I was blaming people for everything, you

01:03:41.590 --> 01:03:45.929
know, and I was like a victim. So I asked the

01:03:45.929 --> 01:03:48.449
monk, I was like, listen, my husband definitely

01:03:48.449 --> 01:03:52.250
needs to come here. He's got a lot of things.

01:03:52.489 --> 01:03:56.070
He goes, listen, stop. You focus on you. Yeah,

01:03:56.110 --> 01:04:00.070
yeah, yeah. You elevate your soul and if you

01:04:00.070 --> 01:04:02.610
guys are the right fit, he's going to want to

01:04:02.610 --> 01:04:05.130
be here. You should not even ask him to come

01:04:05.130 --> 01:04:07.710
here. Yeah. Focus on you. Why are you focused

01:04:07.710 --> 01:04:10.650
on him? You need to focus on you, your soul,

01:04:10.730 --> 01:04:13.789
and you loving up your energy, your aura, everything.

01:04:14.210 --> 01:04:17.630
And then that person will either join you to

01:04:17.630 --> 01:04:21.289
work on themselves or they'll run away. And so

01:04:21.289 --> 01:04:23.969
he said to me, I've seen relationships happen

01:04:23.969 --> 01:04:27.469
both directions. I've seen partners run away

01:04:27.469 --> 01:04:30.289
from the other person because they were too afraid

01:04:30.289 --> 01:04:33.489
to look within. They were not ready to look within.

01:04:33.650 --> 01:04:35.690
So the other person was climbing, climbing, climbing.

01:04:36.610 --> 01:04:39.349
And the partner was still staying down here.

01:04:39.769 --> 01:04:42.750
And it doesn't work. So you cannot, I could not

01:04:42.750 --> 01:04:45.309
sit there and say, David, you have to go to India.

01:04:45.510 --> 01:04:48.429
David, you have to level up. No, no, no, no,

01:04:48.429 --> 01:04:50.130
no. He would resent that. No, but it's not right.

01:04:50.289 --> 01:04:52.329
They got to do it from their own soul. They got

01:04:52.329 --> 01:04:54.630
to do it because they want to do it. And I think

01:04:54.630 --> 01:04:56.329
that's the biggest mistake that relationships

01:04:56.329 --> 01:04:58.630
make is they try to change the other person.

01:04:58.769 --> 01:05:00.889
Yeah. And there's also the concept of not just.

01:05:01.099 --> 01:05:02.719
not accepting the other person, but holding space

01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:06.920
for somebody. That's a fine distinction. There

01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:09.059
could be something I don't like, something that

01:05:09.059 --> 01:05:10.719
was said, or some behavior that I don't like,

01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:13.760
but I can hold space like crazy for that person,

01:05:13.860 --> 01:05:14.860
which is a great container. He's really good

01:05:14.860 --> 01:05:16.719
at that, by the way. He's so good at that. You're

01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:18.179
so good at that. That's my superpower. That's

01:05:18.179 --> 01:05:20.619
a superpower. Even our kids can recognize that's

01:05:20.619 --> 01:05:22.699
a superpower. And that's a very safe container

01:05:22.699 --> 01:05:25.300
for the other person, for them to level up. Yeah.

01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:29.820
You know? Yeah. Hold on. What you just said,

01:05:30.809 --> 01:05:33.429
I don't even know if you realize how magical

01:05:33.429 --> 01:05:37.030
what he just said. Holding space for that person

01:05:37.030 --> 01:05:39.389
so they can have the opportunity to level up.

01:05:39.809 --> 01:05:42.510
When somebody is in your face forcing you to

01:05:42.510 --> 01:05:45.170
level up, demanding for you to level up, you

01:05:45.170 --> 01:05:46.769
can't come out of your shell. You're afraid.

01:05:46.789 --> 01:05:48.570
You're like a turtle not sure if you're about

01:05:48.570 --> 01:05:51.170
to get your head chopped off. So you stay within

01:05:51.170 --> 01:05:56.659
that container that's your safe container. your

01:05:56.659 --> 01:05:59.340
partner was your safe container, then you can

01:05:59.340 --> 01:06:03.139
come out and start to explore. And I always felt

01:06:03.139 --> 01:06:07.219
super safe with David. And of course, I'll never

01:06:07.219 --> 01:06:10.300
be perfect. We're not perfect. And sometimes

01:06:10.300 --> 01:06:12.699
he has to give me a big hug and just be like,

01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:14.579
look, I know you're super frustrated right now.

01:06:14.900 --> 01:06:18.250
Let's just breathe together. Because no matter

01:06:18.250 --> 01:06:22.010
how often I meditate or pray or have my one -on

01:06:22.010 --> 01:06:24.590
-ones with Etan, my Kabbalah teacher, I go to

01:06:24.590 --> 01:06:28.570
India, I'm never going to be perfect. It's always

01:06:28.570 --> 01:06:31.369
an opportunity to work on your soul. So when

01:06:31.369 --> 01:06:35.050
I hear beautiful relationships wanting to break

01:06:35.050 --> 01:06:37.349
up because of stupid things, I'm like, you're

01:06:37.349 --> 01:06:39.349
just going to meet the next person that's going

01:06:39.349 --> 01:06:43.860
to have their own shit of drama and trauma. So

01:06:43.860 --> 01:06:45.960
you want to break up because of this? The next

01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:49.000
person is going to have just another realm of

01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:51.800
that, right? So just try and work on yourself.

01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:54.300
Let him work on his self and see where you go

01:06:54.300 --> 01:06:56.539
from there. And I'm telling you, I've had about

01:06:56.539 --> 01:06:59.699
maybe five marriages that didn't break up because

01:06:59.699 --> 01:07:02.980
they focused on themselves. I feel like you guys

01:07:02.980 --> 01:07:05.880
probably indirectly are also like marriage counselors

01:07:05.880 --> 01:07:09.139
to a lot of the parents at your school. He's

01:07:09.139 --> 01:07:11.500
a lot more than I am. Not like telling them what

01:07:11.500 --> 01:07:13.500
to do. You also broke up people too. There's

01:07:13.500 --> 01:07:15.019
a lot of people who have not stayed together

01:07:15.019 --> 01:07:17.760
because they know something's inherently not

01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:19.920
good and it's not going to... We haven't... We

01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:21.679
didn't... We weren't... We didn't do it. No,

01:07:21.699 --> 01:07:24.699
it's... For example, we had a doula when we were,

01:07:24.699 --> 01:07:27.900
you know, having our baby. And the doula literally

01:07:27.900 --> 01:07:30.519
divorced her husband because she saw the love

01:07:30.519 --> 01:07:34.199
that we had together during the hardest part

01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:36.739
of life, which is a woman delivering a baby.

01:07:36.860 --> 01:07:41.079
And mine was three days. right so it was like

01:07:41.079 --> 01:07:43.559
traumatic and we actually were getting closer

01:07:43.559 --> 01:07:46.199
and closer by the minute she would tell us that

01:07:46.199 --> 01:07:48.500
she would see relationships that would just fall

01:07:48.500 --> 01:07:52.659
apart because it's really hard you know the way

01:07:52.659 --> 01:07:54.800
she would see us continue to love each other

01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:57.460
even though it was like you know craziness after

01:07:57.460 --> 01:08:00.500
craziness that was happening ended up in an emergency

01:08:00.500 --> 01:08:03.980
you know c -section situation we came even closer

01:08:03.980 --> 01:08:06.980
and closer you know and so when she saw that

01:08:06.980 --> 01:08:09.440
she realized you know my my relationship doesn't

01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:11.360
have any love in it and so she got a divorce

01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:14.940
because of what she saw so it's not because of

01:08:14.940 --> 01:08:17.840
us because of what people witness within us and

01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:21.989
that's that's honestly why i was saying That's

01:08:21.989 --> 01:08:24.670
why I was saying we need more examples. We need

01:08:24.670 --> 01:08:28.350
to normalize relationships like you, right? Because

01:08:28.350 --> 01:08:31.130
right now, even so many of the relationships

01:08:31.130 --> 01:08:33.350
you see on the internet or social media, and

01:08:33.350 --> 01:08:35.930
it's like, oh, they appear to be just living

01:08:35.930 --> 01:08:38.689
this dream life. I can't tell you how many of

01:08:38.689 --> 01:08:40.829
those relationships I've actually witnessed in

01:08:40.829 --> 01:08:43.550
real life, and it's complete chaos. And it's

01:08:43.550 --> 01:08:45.710
a complete facade that they're posting online,

01:08:46.050 --> 01:08:49.069
right? And they're almost like leveraging their

01:08:49.069 --> 01:08:51.569
relationship and their beautiful family to like

01:08:51.569 --> 01:08:54.329
build their business and like appear to be someone

01:08:54.329 --> 01:08:56.689
that they're not. We've seen those. Yeah. And

01:08:56.689 --> 01:08:59.010
there's a lot of that. We've seen a lot of that.

01:08:59.170 --> 01:09:01.470
But yeah, I would second, like David's always

01:09:01.470 --> 01:09:04.430
just been, you've always just been a really,

01:09:04.489 --> 01:09:09.069
really safe space to have any conversation where

01:09:09.069 --> 01:09:13.189
literally there feels like zero judgment. And

01:09:13.189 --> 01:09:16.329
that's hard to find. He's a great listener. Yeah.

01:09:16.350 --> 01:09:18.869
Again, our 10 -year -old, it's one of the things

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that when we sit around the table and we'll have

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a discussion, you know, what I love about mom,

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what I love about dad, what I love about, you

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know, each other. And his is, you know, dad is

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just such a great listener. Wow. He can just

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listen. With no devices, no electronics, he can

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just listen. And that's definitely your superpower.

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That's probably the best compliment I would say

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like any parent, especially a dad, could get.

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That's like emotional, bro. We have to hold space

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for our kids too. She wants us to wrap up. We

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have to hold space for our kids too, especially

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their evolution is happening. He's my role model

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in it. He's definitely my role model. I'm like

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literally, you said you want, I don't know if

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you, I'm like literally emotional at that because

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that's like, that's incredible. Oh, we got the

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tears. That's incredible. It's a good place to

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end. But also, if you think about where so much

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of our trauma stems from, those first seven years

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of life, right? And so much of that happens from

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not fully feeling safe or seen. So if you can

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create a space and an environment where it's

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like there's full acceptance and you can share

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whatever's on your heart, you can express yourself

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without being shamed or feeling guilty about

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it. That's just creating an environment of healing

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and health. It's a level up space. It's an incubation

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for allowing a soul to level up. Yeah. That's

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what I try to do. So Jeremy, you're the best,

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man. Thank you for coming. This was fun. I'm

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really honored to be able to be here.