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make the team for the Syracuse Crunch. I am not
a part of the team. I am not running the team.
I'm not even watching a game. I'm doing something
way cooler. I am here with the COO of the Syracuse
Crunch, Mr. Jim Sorosi. Jim. Thank you for bringing
us here. Oh, thank you. This is great. You sure
you don't want a spot in practice? Well, I did
used to play goalie, but here's the thing. Everybody
that I played goalie with grew up and got taller.
I never did. I mean, when I was coming up, I
always thought I had a shot, you know, but I
knew I was smaller. Today's goalies are monstrous.
I would say in general, but hockey, we're very
proud that you come in all shapes, all sizes.
Look at our team right there right now. You'll
see a little bit of difference. There is a little
bit of a trend in the goaltending position though.
There is. The crossbar is above my head so top
shelf would be rough. But enough about me playing.
That's a dream. I'm so happy to be here. You
cannot live in central New York. or work in Central
New York without knowing about The Crunch, without
loving The Crunch. You guys are a huge part of
the community. You're the head honcho, and your
story is fantastic. Because not only are you
running the team, you're actually from the Syracuse
area, Franklin Square. No, actually, I hope I
don't mess up the whole interview. No, no. I'm
Long Island. You are. I'm Franklin Square, Long
Island. Well. But on the bio it said Franklin
Square and there's a Franklin Square there is
and it's it does come up occasionally But I am
that that that story I might never planned on
staying here went to school in Central New York
at SUNY Portland I did my internship up here
with the crunch my plan was a couple years and
I wanted to go back home and work for the Yankees
or the Islanders boy and then not words not trying
to come across as cheesy that I fall in love
with Central New York and the American Hockey
League and this team and 31 years later I'm still
here but you have I am a Syracuse Ian now I mean
you if even if you were from Long Island at this
point that you've been here since 1996 correct
yes I came yeah you're sorry man you're one of
us now so that's a badge of honor it is a badge
of honor it's such a great town for sports specifically
hockey Growing up, tell us a little bit about
your background. I mean, I know you went to SUNY
Cortland and your journey as far as that goes,
but were you always a hockey fan? How did this
kind of come about? Yeah, for sure. It was maybe
a little bit of a boring background type of thing.
I always joke I didn't own a pair of jeans until
I got to college. I would come home from school,
put on sports radio. You'll get the news day
daily news post do all my clippings. I had my
Yankee book in my eye on their book There's a
die -hard sport fan specifically baseball and
hockey and I think like a lot of folks I came
to that realization boy. I'm not gonna play at
a high level So what's the next best thing and
for me? My goal was to be involved in a sport
that I loved and then ultimately hopefully run
a team one day and and that was the goal from
a relatively young age and You know all the steps
to the ladder to get me to where I was today,
but it's been a it's It's been great. It's such
a dream for so many sports fans like myself,
but there's really no clear -cut path, right?
I mean, you know that if you want to become a
welder, you're going to go to welding school.
You know, in this kind of business, it's not
like I'm going to go to... How did you kind of
navigate... figuring those steps of the ladder
out. Yeah, there is no playbook per se. Like
you said, there's no formula. We always joke
if there was a formula, we would have bottled
it a long time ago and anyone could have done
it. From my journey, it was I wanted to make
sure that I put myself in the best position when
and if that opportunity came. And how do you
do that? It's all the things you learn in school
and really in life. It's just hard work. Be positive.
keep your head down and you do the task at hand
and do it with a smile on your face. What can
I bring? How do I make the team a little bit
better today than it was yesterday? And then
when those opportunities come, my goal was always
to make it such a no -brainer decision for the
owner to put me in that position. And, you know,
a couple breaks here and there, but I am a big
believer in the harder you work, the more luck
you have. And that's how it all came about. And
there's no rhyme or reason to it. It's looking
for the opportunities and making breaks, so to
speak, with everything as well, too. And I had
a great opportunity here two times. I interned
with the club. The PR person left halfway through
a season, and I was in the right place at the
right time. And then my next step was, OK, I'm
in. Now I want to run. A couple years after that,
I think it was 2001, our COO left, and I got
the call from the owner saying, hey, you're running
my team now. And that was it. And maybe a couple
years before, I thought I was ready, but I wanted
to jump at it. Jumped right in. Like I said,
it's so lucky. I get paid to go to an ice rink
every day and run a professional hockey team.
It's what you could imagine it would be. I love
hearing you say that because... You know, you
do see interviews with different general managers
of sports organizations, and sometimes they kind
of play it up like, yeah, yeah, no big deal.
You know, I love hearing that you still have
that kid inside you that's like, I can't believe
this. I can't believe I'm here. You can maybe
not see it on camera. We're watching right now.
The team is prepped. Like, these are the sounds.
This is my background every day. And for me,
as I've gotten a little bit older, the benefit
of being in a minor league, in the American Hockey
League specifically, is it's a developmental
league. It is awesomely a very, very, very small
part of people's journeys as they try to get
onward and upward to bigger and better things
and everything. And that's what we do. And you
know, just to kind of paint a picture for those
of you watching and or listening, you know...
If you're a sports fan, it's cool just to be
here while the crunch are practicing. As we're
talking, pucks are hitting the net that's protecting
us. I think they're trying to shoot them happy
now. Megan, can you tell them to stop? The snow.
No, don't. They'll kill me. The snow from the
ice is falling on our heads. I mean, this is
as good as it gets. So you're the COO of the
team. There's a lot that goes into being a COO,
clearly. Now, as a sports fan, the first thing
we think of is like, oh, my God, you get to deal
with roster. and moves and scouting. But I also
know from meeting other GMs of minor league teams,
there's some of the boring stuff. You got to
make sure the beer is cold. Can you kind of go
through some of the things that you deal with,
kind of peel the curtain back a little bit? Yeah,
sure. I'm going to go right to last night. Normal
work hours end last night. I go downstairs getting
ready We had an appearance at a corporate partner
of ours and we also had a behind -the -scenes
tour So I wanted to make sure that got up and
going but then I saw that one of our TVs was
broken in the weight room So I decided I was
gonna hang this TV before I went to the corporate
Partnership TV hanging didn't go as well as I
planned took me a little longer. Yeah, so in
the six o 'clock hour I'm hanging a TV 7 o 'clock
hour, I'm at an appearance. 7 .30 we make a trade.
So we have to talk to the new guy, get him all
set, order the jerseys, get that all. Then I
go home, watch Tampa Bay, which is our affiliate.
After that game, I get a call saying we need
to get a kid to Montreal for tonight, for the
day this is being recorded to play. So I call
Megan, who I call on everything. She helps me
navigate the who, who's available and everything.
We finally got a staff member and they're en
route to Montreal right now. So those are my
last... Seven or eight hours of work. But maybe
after this I might be peeling a sticker off the
dashboard or getting ready for a team event.
But that's the beauty of minor league sport.
Just what I pictured a day in your life would
be like. That is. So I went to last night. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, this is I mean, look, this is an
ADHD person's dream. I mean, it's just you're
all over the place. There's so much that you
do. I was curious, how much interaction does
a minor league team or COO have with your affiliate
is the Tampa Bay Lightning at this point, how
much are they involved? are very involved. The
way I try to explain it a lot of times is they
make all the decisions on the hockey side. All
the moves, all the signings, all the trades,
all the releasing, all the coaching. Even at
this level? At this level. But we activate a
lot of it. So it's very common where, okay, we're
bringing in this guy, you know, Jim and your
team, you go make sure that that kid gets here.
We work through the immigration. But we lean
on our resources, which is Tampa in that regard.
So it's daily interaction, but we have staff.
members for that. Something newer in the minor
league hockey world is we have a team services
person. Her job is to take care of everything
off ice. We want these players getting better.
at what they do, we want the coaches worrying
about coaching, we want the equipment guys working
about that, medical, on and on, so her job is
to help all of those off -ice type of things,
that's kind of a newer position there. I say
the involvement is strong, it's wide ranging,
you never know what type of requests you're gonna
get, but that's kind of, in that lies the beauty
of it as well too. But it's going back to what
I mentioned earlier, I take it very serious,
it's our job to put the athletes, the staff,
in a position to be the best version of themselves.
And that's what we try to work at each day. And
how can we do that? One of the concepts is to
eliminate a lot of those distractions that inevitably
come. Sure. Teach, learn, and all of that. But
it goes back to putting them in a position to
succeed. So well said. You're clearly the right
man for the job. Not sure. I mean, I think this
is an OK question. Ask if you can peel the...
This is something I personally always wanted
to know. You notice with a lot of minor league
clubs, especially in hockey, The team affiliation
changes sometimes year to year. How does that
process work? What are the logistics of all that?
There's 32 teams in our league. 32 NHL teams.
So it's one for one. 12 of those 32 teams are
independent. The rest are owned by their National
Hockey League. teams. So for us, we have what
I feel is the best partnership in all of hockey
with Tampa Bay. This is our 14th year with them.
And those deals are always negotiated and talked
about and people marry up for different reasons
and everything. You want to make sure your philosophies
match up and everything. Sure. We started out
with Vancouver. We had a great 10 year run with
Columbus. Yeah. I think, you know, from what
we kind of hear, they wanted to go with an all
Ohio model and that's kind of where they wanted
to push their affiliate, which made sense for
them. And ultimately that got us all to Tampa
Bay, which has been great. And the movement is
a little bit of who's available at the time and
all that kind of stuff, but I've learned as I've
gotten through that you marry the people, not
so much the franchises. And you'll see sometimes
people will follow GMs, NHL GMs, wherever they
go, if they're comfortable with a situation or
not. And what a time for you to be a part of
the Tampa Bay Lightning franchise, because they
are in the middle of what I... I consider a dynasty
right now, just an incredible hockey club. And
you're a part of that. Do you, when they're winning
up there, does that trickle down? Do you feel
it here? Do you feel that energy and excitement
down here? Oh, for sure. It's a very unique dynamic
because we'll have Syracuse employees and Tampa
employees. But at the end of the day, we are
one family. So yeah, we take a tremendous amount
of pride in Tampa's. success both on ice and
business. We feel we contribute you know through
many many different avenues and everything but
to be associated with them it's hard for me to
articulate just how proud I am of that affiliation.
Julian Brizwa is everything you could hope for
in a partner. His drive is determination, the
resources that they give us. It's everything
that you want. And it's a world of best practices.
We want to be the best in every single area we
can. And it's constantly tweaking. It's never
thinking we know what's going on, because we
don't. I say, if we win every game, we sell out
every game, maybe, and I doubt it, but maybe
we'll know what we're doing. And until then,
we got a ways to go. I'm curious. When the team
just changed, like you were the Columbus Blue
Jackets, now you're affiliated with the Lightning.
When the changeover happens, is that like a,
is that a huge mix up around here where you're
kind of starting over or is it kind of a smooth
transition when that happens? No, for sure. I
mean, some areas you're running, it's, I know
one of the popular phrase, you're kind of drinking
out of a fire hose, so to speak. Yeah, yeah.
You know, from little things I think even we
forget, from a team color change is huge. Just
let alone on that. That's a good point. so much
of everything when that happens. So yeah, there's
a lot of moving parts when an affiliation changes.
butchered, I don't know what the, just basically
for being a badass COO. Tell me a little bit
about the history of that award and what that
meant to you to win that. No, they're, and I
have to stress this, this is important, and don't
judge me, they're team awards, they really are.
They are, and I happen to be the, you know, the
face of the department at the time. I think going
back with a lot of our bigger events, being the
first team that hosted an outdoor game. I was
going there next. Setting an indoor attendance
record. at the dome, and working with those groups,
those bring a lot of eyes onto the organization
and our brand. And those type of awards, I think,
follow those type of achievements and everything.
And that's really what they are. The McKenzie
is for the best marketer, best promoter of your
team, and that is not a one -person job by any
means. What a selfless answer, and so much respect.
That's amazing for you to say. Which leads me
right to what you were talking about. I would
assume a lot of why you won that award, especially
particularly in marketing. You were the first
one to ever host the Marabitor Outdoor game.
That was in 2010, the Marabitor Outdoor classic,
excuse me. And then the Toyota Frozen Dome classic
in 2014, the first and I think only game played
in the Dome. And by the way, I read how much
you had to go through to make that happen, dealing
with the government, you know, locally and regionally.
Can you talk a little bit about that, how the
idea came about and what went into that? Yeah,
both games were heavy lifts, no questions. We
couldn't have done it without phenomenal partners,
and Outdoor Game was the state and the county
stepping up, and then our corporate partners,
Marabito, like you said, and then the staff.
The staff were rock stars with that. The Dome
Game was different because they had the infrastructure,
they had the building and everything, where the
Outdoor Game, we were literally building a rink
on a dirt track with no hot water. So it was
a challenge. The dome challenges were a little
bit different, but Pete Sallow, the gentleman
who runs the building up there, phenomenal. Unbelievable
gentlemen, I'm so proud to have had that opportunity
to work with them. The why is we like challenges.
We're proud of the area. This area is a hockey
area. We wanted to be the first outdoor game.
We were the first in our league. I think it was
the fourth overall. The Dome gave us a venue
where we could set an attendance record and we
hold it. Syracuse and Utica, of all these teams
in North America, Europe, we have the largest
crowd ever to watch an indoor hockey game. In
this country in this these two smaller markets.
It's something to be proud back and we want to
go in and do it again It's it's so something
to be proud of for obviously the events themselves
speak for themselves, right? It was incredible.
But people I don't think you realize what a risk
you took because a lot of you know It's so easy
to say why didn't other clubs do that? It's it's
a huge risk financially logistically and you
went out on a limb What gave you the courage
to go, you know what, these are two huge events.
How did you know you could pull it off? Did you
know? No, there were sleepless nights for sure,
and for different reasons. And you're right with
what you said. The risk was tremendous. So to
have an owner in Howard Olden who believed in
the staff... and the community and the area to
do it was what we needed. So that set our foundation
to move ahead and try the events. Because you're
right, if there was a snowstorm or if we lost
a weekend, it could have been a disaster for
the organization. That would have set us back
months, years and everything. But to have his
confidence... It was it was what I needed and
what kind of led the staff to do it But no there
were crazy nights especially with I remember
in the outdoor game a couple times like did we
do the right thing? Is this worth it? Are we
taking away from the poor business all that kind
of stuff? And then the dome game was nerve -wracking
because it was daunting to have a challenge We
play in a 6 ,000 ish seat arena to have to do
30 ,000 and you can't hide if you don't come
they don't There's no way to know you can't hide
that So that's where a lot of my stress came
from for that game. But boy, did people come
out and they made them worthwhile. Any plans
to do that again? I sure hope so. So, Grandstand
was knocked down at the fairgrounds. That's right.
We've had some conversations with the baseball
club about maybe going over there and doing it.
It's a little light on seats, but I think we
can make it work. We have an in with Jason. I'll
smack him. I'll make it happen. You call me,
I'll strong him. I'm interested in partnering
up. Awesome. to hear first? You know to do that
and then don't yes I want to get back in there
I want to I want to reset the record and for
us it's you think about it in the whole country
there's not a lot of buildings that host three
major sports let alone two with basketball football
and lacrosse and a rink doesn't go in overnight
we need about a 10 -day window and the challenge
is that building is used all the time yeah so
for us to block out that many days has been the
challenge to try and get back there, but enough
people I think want it. Pete's great to work
with and I'm hoping we're back there and I'm
hoping we're outside again. Well, I hope it happens
because as a sports fan, especially a hockey
fan, I mean, what is better than those type of
events? And I can't can't believe you would you
pulled it off and set a record doing it. The
Micron is coming you're talking about the the
you know the the community and being a part of
the community Micron is kind of on everybody's
radar in every industry because it's you know
It's one of the biggest things to happen since
the Erie Canal Are you feeling the effects of
that yet? Is there any planning involved in preparation
for that? I think the feeling, yes. I mean, we're
central New York. We live here, so it's hard
not to get excited with the buzz that's going
around and the anticipation and everything. And
we want to position ourselves as an opportunity
or an outlet for their employees to enjoy. And
that's really what it is. At the end of the day,
I guess it's no different than a company that
potentially is going to bring in 20 people all
the way way up. It's all scaled a little bit.
But the pure numbers and the pure excitement
of that is hard not to get excited about. So
in our prep is open arms. What can we do? It's
really that simple. Yeah. I want to talk about
the season. But first, I would be remiss not
to ask this. So I've been coming to games with
my wife, mostly before kids. And we've seen this
arena kind of change its face a little bit here
and there. It's absolutely gorgeous, like gorgeous
in here. Talk a little bit about the renovations
that have been done and when and what people
can expect here. We're very proud of where we
play. It's one of the older buildings. We kind
of say it's the oldest. There's one with an older
cornerstone out of the 64. We're in 1951. So
it's a very special anniversary coming up for
the building. It's 75th here. For us, it's really
maximizing what space we have at the same time,
making sure that we pay due respect to the veterans
that this was built for. And I think we've kind
of married the two up. You'll see they have spaces
in here. We have spaces in here. I'm very proud
of that. It's a message that I like to share
with our athletes as they come in and our staff
that come in. We're proud that we bring so many
people here to see their exhibits and their mentions
and then all the military. that we do, but we're
always constantly trying to max out what we can
have here. This most recent expansion was a new
sound system, which was a little outdated, and
then the new seats that we're sitting in right
now, so the new lowerable seats are in. Very
comfortable. This year, yes, though, quite different
than what was here prior. Absolutely. So those
were our upgrades, but throughout the years we've
made many of them. One of the more challenging
ones was we had to extend the ice. We were only
193 feet long. You're supposed to be 200 feet.
But that was very important for us to continue
to attract NHL partners was to make sure that
that got fixed. So now we're a regulation for
the ice and all little things here and there
throughout the years. But we're very proud of
where we play. What a beautiful answer. I have
so much respect for you. It's so easy for organizations
to slap a name onto an arena and call it good.
The fact that You know, it's named, you know,
after veterans and you highlight that here. It's
so special. I mean, there's a beautiful mural
I'm staring at over there, and I just wanted
to commend you on that. I think that's wonderful.
No, that takes a lot of people, but that's something
we are sincerely very proud of. Yeah, and you
should be. A couple more questions. I want to
be respectful of your time, but we got to talk
about the 25 season. You guys are sitting right
now at 13 and 8. You're tied for second place.
I got it right here just so I make sure I'm good.
One of your players, your left winger, and I'm
going to butcher his name, Jacob. I want to make
sure I say the last name right. You want me to
go first? You go first. Jacob Peltier. Peltier.
See, I was going to say Peltier. Pelti... Pelti...
Jacob, he's third in the AHL right now in scoring.
Talk to me about the season. How do you feel
about it? And what can we look forward to? Yeah,
it's a great group. It really is. But if you
ask anybody who's going to run their team, I
think 90 % of them or 95 % are going to say it's
a great group. I've thoroughly enjoyed this year's
team. There's a little bit more turnover than
we usually have. We turned over about 60, 65
% of the team, which you're always used to in
minor in American League. turnover but the players
we brought in led by Mr. Peltier and some of
the others have been I don't want to say breath
of fresh air because that would be disrespectful
to guys who were before but they brought a different
type of energy to the team this year and it's
been a lot of fun working with them getting to
know them the results have been positive so far
but there's a long long long way ahead yeah with
everything but we're putting ourselves I think
in a position to be in the conversation don't
tell them I butchered his name because I want
to live I just want to note real quick on the
side. See, I love hockey for many reasons. I
also love that through generations, the mentality
of hockey players has not changed. While we've
been doing interviews, they were purposely firing
pucks at the glass and then two other guys were
checking each other into the glass and then like
hugging each other and interrupting. And I just,
yeah, you didn't even have to answer anything.
I just want to make note of that's what hockey
players do and it never changes. I honestly think,
I don't know what your opinion is. I just thought
of this. I think hockey players, and obviously
you're a little biased, I genuinely think they
are the toughest athletes on the planet. Oh,
without question. Without question, right? Again,
I don't want to be disrespectful to other sports,
but it's not even a competition at all. It's
not. Even in full -contact sports like the NFL,
you have a break every time you go to the huddle.
With hockey, you've got to have the cardio, you've
got to have the physicality, you've got to be
tough. How many times have you seen guys getting
teeth knocked out? and they're like, eh, and
it's a badge of courage. No, it really is. It's
amazing. Yeah, football is a little bit of a
challenge. I mean, in a 60 -minute game, only
when you're comparing. I'm not trying to take
anything away from that. Sure. No, no, no. I
brought it up. Don't worry. You're playing 9,
10, 11 minutes of game time. Granted, that's
a tough 10, 11 minutes of time, but it doesn't
compete with what our athletes are going through
at the speeds they're going through with the
frozen puck there on ice trying to skate. Jim,
I go ice skating with my kids. My feet are hurting
after five minutes, and I got to sit down. So
I mean, it's absolutely incredible. One of the
great things you do here, and I say better than
most, is your promotional nights. And there's
always something to look forward to. If you want
to plug in, just tell us about some of the special
fan nights coming up and some of the promotional
things you guys are doing and maybe your favorite.
We're always looking for ideas. The genesis of
those when we sit down in the summer is how can
we attract maybe non -Crunch fans or casual Crunch
fans to a game. So that's where the hockey romance
is, the ogre nights, the the hockey is for everyone
nights. That's where all of those come from and
that's well that's the the goal of those is to
bring in people to the buildings and everything
and they have a lot of fun doing it as well.
It reinforces what we do for our our season ticket
base which is that bringing that fun and that
difference to every game and you never want to
lose but kind of the measure of that is you're
in the car on the way home and maybe we lose
five to one that day and they're like you know
what that's stunk. But we had a good time and
that's where a lot of those come true We have
a lot of traditional nights like our military
night our hockey fights to cancer night And then
we have a lot of fun nights like I mentioned
the most recent being the hockey romance night.
We have an overnight coming up here We're gonna
turn Memorial Hall into a swamp. It's gonna be
pretty cool and NC and You know, that's part
of our comic -con series where we'll do a Star
Wars and a Wizarding Night You know a lot of
them other markets do we try to put our own twist
on it? We're constantly looking to bring in celebrities
that can help enhance the game experience and
everything but it really is we try to hit every
demographic because that's what hockey is we
want everyone to experience this know it's a
great place a safe place to come and and have
at it and after this you mentioned I caught wind
you guys are gonna have the hockey players wrap
gifts and do it you're judging them on that yeah
no thanks so each December we grab one week and
we rebranded our week of assists so each of the
seven days in that week we do something community
-based and everything. So yesterday we were at
P -Sync dropping off some items that they needed
for Boys and Girls Club. Today, each athlete
was required to bring in a gift that we're going
to donate later for the toy drive. But to put
our little fun in it, we're going to have a wrapping
contest with it as well too. So players wrap,
staff judges, and we all have a little bit of
fun with that. That is fantastic. Alright, one
more question. So, you know, the I -90 rivalry,
right? Utica, Syracuse, I'm kind of from the
Utica... area. You featured that in the Toyota
Frozen Dome game. So you know about rivalries.
You see my hat. I'm an Ithaca College grad. You're
a Cortland Red Dragon. For those of you that
don't know, we are rivals. Not today. There is
Kortika Jug, the biggest little game in the country.
Talk to me about what that means to you, and
have you ever been to one of those? Oh, for sure.
Not recently, just because of the career path
I've taken, but when I was there, absolutely.
How can you not be, right? Exactly. The campus
is empty out for all of that. I think my... I
have to maybe ask Megan. We have one Ithaca grad
on our staff, and I think 78... You pay them
below minimum wage. 78 Cortland people. That's
how I did that for her. To see the attention
that's drawn on that game is wonderful and the
success that both programs have had is really
neat. Yeah, you guys won the state championship
two years ago? I don't remember. I think it was
three, maybe three, two years ago. We hired a
young man the year after and that hurt him a
little bit. I bet. He missed by a year. I bet.
It is the biggest little game in the country
and it's amazing. They're actually going back
to Yankee Stadium next year. I don't know if
you heard that, so maybe we'll have to go. All
right, well listen, Jim. I can't think enough,
I just have one last question, and not today,
but do you think at some point, I've always had
this dream of getting to ride the Zamboni? Absolutely,
we can make that happen. And I have to admit
something, so I go to Cornell. You wanna drive
it or just ride it? Oh, Jesus Christ, I can drive
it? I think we can make that happen, too. You're
talking to the right people. Megan, can he drive
the Zamboni? Yes, you can. I don't know if I
want to do that. I don't know if that's a good
idea. Well, have the conditioner up so you can't
mess up the ice. That'll be your safety net.
I live in Ithaca, so you know Cornell Hockey.
It's huge there, and by the way, I've talked
about it on GNY Sports. It's one of the most
amazing experiences you can have, hockey experiences.
But I will admit, you know, I see little kids
riding the Zamboni, and I'm like, well, I'm 40,
so I'm not going to ask. This is my chance. Absolutely.
Oh, Jim, you're the best. Anything else you want
to plug or say? Oh, that was great. I can't thank
you enough for your time. That was real enjoyable.
I appreciate it. I really appreciate you. Syracuse
Crunch, come out to a game. Nothing else. because
it's a blast and it's been a pleasure meeting
you you're you're a great guy and I wish you
the best of luck so thank you from good news
you appreciate the opportunity yeah all right
man let's go all right go crunch