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Hello and welcome to Good News York. I'm flying

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solo today. Matt is out finding phase drugs memorabilia.

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He's combing all of New York State. So I'm here

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alone. I have a very special guest today, special

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being the key word. Give it up for Kate Williams.

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And when I say give it up, it's just me clapping

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because it's only me here and I apologize. Thank

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you. Kate, I'm so glad you came in. Matt's wife

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actually recommended that we have you on, and

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I'm glad she did, because you are doing some

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amazing stuff. First of all, tell us a little

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bit about yourself and your background. OK. And

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we'd love to hear about that. So I had a daughter,

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young. I had a daughter at 21 who just graduated

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college, so very excited for her. And then just

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kind of bounced around. Job wise, nothing, didn't

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really have a passion. And then I just kind of

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fell into, I saw a job offer for a bathing, grooming

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shop needed a bather in about 2014. And I tried

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it out and from there fell in love with grooming.

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I apprenticed under one of the owners and that

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started my grooming career. And then I started

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volunteering at the CNY SPCA as a groomer just

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to... you know, work on my skills and stuff like

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that and fell in love with rescue and decided

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to take a year off grooming and focus on rescue,

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which ended up being three years. And I met some

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really wonderful people through there. And we

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all saw the problems in rescue. There's many

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overpopulation. And so we just had this wonderful

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idea about how if we could do it. on a smaller

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scale and do it right and have total control

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over training and enrichment and getting these

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dogs prepared for their home. So within a year,

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actually, we just opened our shop. It's on 922

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Old Liverpool Road. So the rescue love is the

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rescue. And my grooming shop is called Girl's

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Best Friend. So I groom there full time, Wednesday

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through Sunday in the front. And then in the

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back, we have been, we just got accepted to have

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five kennels built, so we can have five animals

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living there, dogs. And right now we have, in

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foster, my foster puppy just got adopted at a

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music bingo two nights ago. So, yeah, it just

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happened. It was out of the blue. We weren't

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expecting it. And we just had a, mama had nine

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puppies, so we're supporting her. Trying to figure

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that out and then one of my very good friends

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Sarah is a trainer and so she has a husky that

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another shelter was Going to put down for very

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mild behavior issues that caught stress you get

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very stressed in the shelter Yeah, so she took

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her in and she's an amazing dog. She's a husky

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so she's working with her So right now we're

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foster -based as we're getting our kennels built,

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but when they're built, we'll have five dogs

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living there permanently. That's amazing. Yeah.

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You know, I know many people who are obviously

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animal lovers, and they have many dogs, cats,

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and some of my friends strictly prefer to go

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the rescue route because there's such a reward

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in, I mean, we love animals no matter where they

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come from, but there's such a reward in... And

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just in rescuing a dog and giving it a better

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life. And they definitely appreciate that. Yeah.

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And I love, I mean, I love the whole reason I

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love dogs is all the different kinds. So I'm

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not against breeding, but ethical breeding. Sure.

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You know, a breed gets popular and then all of

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a sudden everyone starts breeding them and like

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destroys the breed and then they have health

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problems and mental problems. So you want to

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either go the rescue route or really do your

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research and find an ethical breeder if you're

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looking for a specific breed of dog. I say rescue

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is the way to go. I agree, I think. It's not

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all pit bulls. I mean, we've got all different

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breeds of dogs. We get doodles. We get German

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shepherds. We get poodle mixes. I feel like doodle.

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I feel like every time a friend of mine gets

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a dog now, it's a something doodle. He's like,

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it's a chicken doodle. It's a Rottweiler doodle.

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I'm like, where are these doodles? Is the doodle

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like the hot thing? Which is driving boomers

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crazy. Well, the poodle is an amazing dog. So

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everybody's just mixing everything with a poodle,

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it seems to be. That's just the phase people

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are in these days. Let's go back, because you

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were talking about how you kind of stumbled upon

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dog grooming. And I personally feel like that

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is a talent and an art. The same way you would

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cut hair. How do you know you have that skill?

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Do most groomers have a background in hair cutting?

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I mean, I'm really blind to this. So I just took

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the job as a bather. Before my, I trained under

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a... Two ladies who had been grooming for 30

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years, one of them showed dogs. They really were

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very hardworking people. And before I could even

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pick up the scissors, you have to learn how to

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properly bathe and brush out a dog. It's a lot

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of work. It's not for everybody. Really, it's

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not playing with puppies all day. You have to

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have a passion for it. I think some people are

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more naturally... Inclined to do it. I wasn't

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I mean I spent two years every day going home

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crying feelings I wasn't feeling like I just

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wasn't getting it, but I wanted it so bad So

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I'd go back every day and then it would a little

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bit would click here a little bit would click

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here And then that's how I picked it up. So it's

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been about ten years now, and I just love it

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I love that I do free grooming for the shelters

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So some of these cruelty cases that come in are

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in excruciating pain and in one hour They are

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like bopping around like the happiest. I mean

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instant gratification You can do so much and

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so little, you know training is a long process

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grooming It's like BAM and that solves such a

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huge problem right away. So I love that part

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So when when I think of grooming my because again,

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I I'm not from that world. I immediately think

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of scissors shampoo Is it more than just cutting

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the hair? What is involved in the process of

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grooming? Yeah, so First of all, you want to

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get your dog started at an early age so they're

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comfortable with all of the blow dryer and just

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the whole process, nail trimming and stuff like

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that. So you want to get your dog in as soon

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as possible. You want to find somebody that you

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trust because it can be frustrating. And you

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see these videos online of people mistreating

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their dog, you know, so. But yeah, usually, you

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know, like a short haired dog would come in and

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they even short haired dogs need baths. They

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can have They can be shedding. They could have

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itchy skin. We do medicated baths. Their ears

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need to be cleaned. Their nails need to be cut.

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So it's a case -by -case basis. Yeah. You don't

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predetermine, like, you know, we're going to

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give it this cut. They come in, and you go, oh,

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we should do this, this. Yeah. OK. And if you

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can give them what they want. And like a doodle,

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say you see these big fuzzy doodles, well, they

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need to come every three to four weeks, and you

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need to keep them dry and brush them every day.

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Yeah. So that's a lot of work. So most people

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don't choose that route. So if a dog comes to

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me in a matted state, I usually will say, OK,

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I'm not going to punish the dog. We're going

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to shave the dog down today. And if you get on

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a schedule with me every four to six weeks, then

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we can do whatever you want. But there's a lot

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of upkeep with certain breeds. So you should

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really look into that when you're getting a dog,

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because a doodle is an expensive. There's different

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levels of maintenance for grooming. And one of

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the most expensive would be any sort of poodle

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mix. because they really need to be groomed at

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the very least every eight weeks. Yeah. And so

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I've been dying to ask this question. I have

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to admit, since yesterday when I knew I was going

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to be interviewing you, I was like, I've got

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to ask this question. So you go into a hairdresser,

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right? And you either know, you say, hey, I would

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like this, right? And obviously, dogs, they can't

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speak to you. The owners can. Well, they can

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with the body language. Oh, we'll talk about

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that too. Is this, so. Is it like with tattooing

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where it's like, I don't give a dog the same

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cut I gave another dog. I want to do it original

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each time. Or do you have certain styles? How

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do you choose how you're going to do the cut?

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Because I've seen some fancy stuff. You see some

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of those poodles with the big puffy. And those

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are the high meanings. But your typical, those

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are like show dogs. Like your pet owned. Usually,

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you know, I ask what the owner wants. You know,

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you want to give them as close to what they want.

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And then there's basic, like, breed cuts. Like,

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a Westie has a cut or... I can't think of a different

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breed right now, but every breed has a cut. And

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then there's, like, the teddy bear cut that everybody

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likes. But yeah, I... There's no dog coming in

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and being like, give me the Rachel cut, right?

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It's like, you're just doing... I find that fascinating

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that there are cuts for certain breeds, and that

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makes sense. And I am picturing, you know, the

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dog show styles. Yeah. Do you also cut for those

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kind of events as well? No, I'm not a show dog

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groomer. Oh, that's a whole separate thing? Yeah,

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that would be a whole different thing, but maybe

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down the road. Maybe down the road. Now, you

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talked about the grooming aspect, and now you're

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involved with Rescue Love, a brand new shelter.

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And I know you talked about some of the problems,

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right? There's a lot of problems. I'd like you,

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if you could just go into that. What are some

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of the problems that that maybe we don't, you

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know, for us, the regular person, we know that

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there's dogs that are either mistreated, they

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don't have homes, they go to the shelter, they're

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taken care of, they find a new home. But you're

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on the front line seeing, what are the biggest

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issues that shelters are facing? I know there's

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one thing to say about the rescue love is, um...

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Most of the proceeds right now from my grooming

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go right into the rescue. So you're not only

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supporting, you're not only getting your dog

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groomed, you're supporting our rescue at the

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same time. That's amazing. So that's a little

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different than like a regular grooming shop.

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Sure. We're all tied together. The trainers are

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working together with the shelter with me. So

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overpopulation, I think that people had this

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idea that I can't spend enough time with my dog.

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But even if you work 12 hours a day, and you

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can give your dog a solid hour outside, that

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is better than, I don't think people, or I don't

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think people realize what life is like in a shelter,

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especially an overcrowded shelter. Minimal, like

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the staff pay is extremely low. People are either

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there, they come and go, or they're there for

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the right reasons. It's a lot of work, it's sad.

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They're underpaid, understaffed. Some dogs, the

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shelter that I worked at, and I'm not saying

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they were the only shelter, but some dogs would

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sit for a week in their kennel and knock it out

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and get a walk. So in our shelter, we're open

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to all different methods of training, and we

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want what's best for the dog, and we want to

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go home at the end of the day knowing that that

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dog got everything it possibly could have needed

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that day. We're right near the parkway. You know,

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if you're at a shelter with 110 dogs that are

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staring at you, begging you to take them out,

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you know, even if you give 110%, you leave there.

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crying and or feeling like you barely made a

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dent and there are such dedicated people, you

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know, there really are but there just aren't

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enough and and Would you say the board, you know

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the people the people it's not so much the staff

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It's sometimes just people running the places

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that aren't running them correctly They've been

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you know So, yeah, I would you say it A lack

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of funding is a big problem. Well, that's where

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we come in, because we want to help you get that

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funding. So I know, again, for most of us, we

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know that the shelters take care of these dogs.

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But what I'm hearing and what I love is that

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it's not just a kennel and food and water and

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you're grooming them. And now I hear about training.

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So can you talk a little bit about the process

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of... A dog comes to the shelter. What do they

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get? What is the everyday operation of a shelter?

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At our new shelter? Yeah, sure. Of course. So

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a dog will come in, and every morning they're

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going to get their breakfast. They're going to

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get walks at least three times a day. You're

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going to have more than one -on -one, one person

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to one dog. Probably more like two people to

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one dog. They're going to get enrichment. They're

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going to get training. So when they go into the

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home, when you adopt a dog from a shelter, you

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don't know what you're getting. They're not crate

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trained. Some of them have been so comfortable

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living in the shelter. Once they get into a house,

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their whole personality changes, and you have

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all these sorts of problems. So we have so many

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wonderful people to help, and we're going to

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make sure that that dog goes home. And we know

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everything about the dog. The dog is properly

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trained. He's crate trained. Any behavior issues

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we've worked out, we're really going to get some

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really amazing stellar dogs. We're going to put

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the work in, you know, to make sure that they

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go into the box. I absolutely love that. You

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know, I love that it's outside the box because

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I don't know, and correct me if I'm wrong, do

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you feel like that's kind of a new innovative

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process? Because I feel like growing up, we always

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got dogs from shelters and it was just a free

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for all. We would see this dog we loved, we'd

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take it home, but... it would go to the bathroom

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in the house, or it would tear up the carpet,

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and we had to train it. Is training being implemented

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into the shelter process, is that something new,

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or is that just a shelter -by -shelter type?

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That is something I think a lot of shelters like

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to do if they had the staff for the resources.

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That's where we come in, like we definitely,

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we're gonna keep ourselves, you know, where there's...

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We're not going to be, we're not going to overwhelm

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ourselves. So we're going to be able to potty

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train the dog, to crate train the dog and do

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everything. And I know that people are doing

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their best, but yeah, you don't know when you

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bring a dog home like it's going to be. And I

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think that's just such a wonderful aspect of

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rescue love is that training aspect. And we also

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get to do home visits. So we're going to come

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into the home, even for fosters. We want to have

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a team of fosters that we can reuse. So we want

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them to come to the shelter. We want to do an

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orientation with our fosters. and we want to

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visit the home, we want them to raise the dog

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the way we want them, so they pick up good habits.

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So when they go into the home, you have like

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a ready -made, wonderful dog that, yes, you still

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have to carry on what we're showing you, but

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they're already all prepped and everything. And

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for an adoptable dog, yeah, definitely home checks.

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That's great. It's almost the same process you

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would for a human being. Yeah. No, I just, I

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love, because we always talk about how our animals

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are just like our family. They're just like humans.

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And you guys really live by that, even in the

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process of finding them a new home. I want to

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talk about Jordan's Way. This is awesome. So

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you guys are heading to Texas in a few days to

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join Jordan's Way. I'd love to hear all about

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that. Rescue Love was one of only two rescues

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chosen from New York State to attend the first

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ever national fundraiser, the Jordan's Way Bowl,

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hosted by Jordan's Way in Wichita Falls, Kansas.

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The goal of this event is to raise over $10 million,

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which will be shared among 85 shelters across

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the country. Tune in live Saturday, November

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15th from 6 to 9 p .m. Central Time on our Rescue

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Love Facebook page to cheer us on and be part

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of this historic event. So that's wonderful.

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How did you find Jordan's Way or how did Jordan's

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Way find you? They came, they've just been coming

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up to Central New York for years. They do Humane

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and they do all the local shelters and they come

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in and they do like, he does, I guess he's raised

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over like 14 million dollars. He travels around

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the country and he does stuff like, you know,

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raise this much money and we'll hose you down

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in a kennel, a staff member in a kennel or we'll

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lock someone in a kennel for an hour or we'll

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shave your head or we'll. Right. Don't tank.

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Pie in the face or something. Love that. He's

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pretty successful, yeah. So we're excited because

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it's expensive to start a shelter. So you would

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say Jordan's Way is kind of an overarching organization

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that kind of provides funds for shelters for

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that reason? For those smaller shelters that

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are unfunded. That's wonderful. And I'm sad that

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I haven't heard of that yet because that is fantastic.

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A couple more questions before I let you go.

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I got to know this. So growing up, We were, we

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always, we're in PC culture now. So I would imagine

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this bleeds into the dog world. Is mut a bad

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term? Do we not use the term mut these days?

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Because that's when we used to say freely. We'd

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say, oh, what breed is your dog? And we'd say,

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oh, we don't know. He's a mut. No. But now I

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feel like that was kind of mean. That's OK to

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say? I would say, yeah, mixed breed. Mixed breed.

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I think a mut's a great dog. They're the healthiest,

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they're the healthiest, you know, honestly. I

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don't think we ever had, we had dogs growing

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up, three, four dogs my whole life. I don't think

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we ever had one that was a specific breed. I

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think we always had, and they were the best.

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Yeah, they're a mixture of all different things

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and they seem to be the healthiest. I don't think

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I've ever had a purebred dog, no. Yeah. This

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is the real question here. How do you, how do

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you emotionally, and I'm being serious because

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I get attached very easily, especially to dogs

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that are in need, right? Especially rescue animals.

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Do you find that you do have to kind of mentally

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teach yourself, like, I can only let them in

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so far emotionally? How do you manage them? Because

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it's tough to see them go, I'm sure. It is. When

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I worked at the SPCA, which is a much higher

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volume, I put my feelings aside. I just wanted

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to be a safe place. a safe space for that dog

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where they felt calm and trusted and they knew

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they could trust me. Seeing them go into a home

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is never sad for me and it always makes me happy.

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That's a happy thing. Yeah, it is a happy thing

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and I have my own dogs. I love any dog I come

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across and I love them with all my heart. But

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yeah, the goal is to find them a new home because

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if you don't, if you keep that dog then you're

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not gonna be able to help the next dog. That's

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a really healthy way to look at it. Yeah. So,

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no, I am there to... I am there for the dog.

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Awesome. My feelings aside and... Kate Williams,

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Rescue Love. This is the important part of the

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interview. Yes. Tell us how we and the viewers

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and listeners can help Rescue Love get the resources

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they need to keep doing the amazing things that

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you do. Okay, yeah. I should have asked Jenna

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to speak for you. That's okay. Yeah, I think

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you just go onto Rescue Love's Facebook page.

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Facebook page? Okay. And you said rescue love

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slash New York or rescue love slash New York

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dot org. Rescue love capital R capital L. I'm

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sorry. I was wrong. There's no slash. It was

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the way it was. It's rescue love with a capital

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R and a capital L. NY dot org. There it is. Rescue

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love NY. And I'm sure there's a donate button

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on there. And what is it that you guys are looking

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for primarily? So we're looking for funding for

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our signage, for our kennels, and then physical

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things like blankets and towels, crates, toys

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and stuff like that. But really we're looking

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for funding just like to build the kennels and

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vet care. Okay, vet care is huge. Right now we're

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looking for a vet that is willing to work with

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us at a discounted rate. Absolutely. Because

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we're going to need a vet. A vet is key. Yes.

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So that's our biggest thing. Especially coming

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from some of the situations that these dogs come

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from. Yes. And I would think that, you know,

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obviously funding goes without saying, but I

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would think... Vet care. Vet care would be the

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number one. So if you are listening, if you are

00:21:17.299 --> 00:21:23.259
watching... Please go to RescueLoveNY .org. Whether

00:21:23.259 --> 00:21:28.140
you want to be part of the staff, donate funds,

00:21:28.559 --> 00:21:31.200
and any veterinarians out there that can help

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Rescue Love with this amazing mission, please,

00:21:33.859 --> 00:21:36.160
please do. Please, please, please. Kay Williams

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of Rescue Love, thank you for coming in. Thank

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you for all you do for these animals. Anything

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else you want to say before we go? No, thanks

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for having me on. All right. We're super excited.

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We love you. A wonderful group of people. the

00:21:48.269 --> 00:21:50.230
best people I've ever met, and we're super excited.

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Zach coming in to get, we're going to get an

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update on his life and everything that's going

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on. That's next, right here on Good News York.

00:22:22.549 --> 00:22:24.710
Hey folks, welcome back to the show. I'm Matt

00:22:24.710 --> 00:22:27.829
Major, back from whatever adventure Mike invented

00:22:27.829 --> 00:22:32.869
from me in the previous segment. We're having

00:22:32.869 --> 00:22:37.750
a good time because I am joined by our sponsor,

00:22:39.210 --> 00:22:42.269
Zach, the man from ads on the go, get ads on

00:22:42.269 --> 00:22:45.079
the go dot com. He's with us in the studio. We

00:22:45.079 --> 00:22:48.579
took a break from promoting everything in central

00:22:48.579 --> 00:22:52.700
New York in his amazing truck. And he's going

00:22:52.700 --> 00:22:54.619
to come in and talk to us a little bit. And I'm

00:22:54.619 --> 00:22:57.200
just glad to have you, man. It's nice that you

00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:01.039
are so busy that we have a hard time even getting

00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:03.539
in here, but I appreciate that. Absolutely. Thanks

00:23:03.539 --> 00:23:06.220
for having me. And first and foremost, I appreciate

00:23:06.220 --> 00:23:08.180
all your support, man. You've been with us now

00:23:08.180 --> 00:23:11.819
for a number of months. one of our biggest advocates

00:23:11.819 --> 00:23:14.440
and fans. And I appreciate it. I know you're

00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:17.700
also a listener to the show, which I appreciate

00:23:17.700 --> 00:23:22.019
as much, if not more. And I love to see it. And

00:23:22.019 --> 00:23:23.359
we're talking about, we're not going to go into

00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:25.339
too much detail here on the air, but a little

00:23:25.339 --> 00:23:27.960
behind the scenes. We're going to be working

00:23:27.960 --> 00:23:30.119
with Zach to promote some of the new things that

00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:32.200
we're doing. And you're going to see even more

00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:35.839
of us on his trucks and maybe at some events.

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So I'm pretty excited about that. But before

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we talk about our stuff, let's step back for

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a minute. For the folks who are just joining

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the program, Zach, tell us, what is ads on the

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go? So we use our big three -screen digital mobile

00:23:51.569 --> 00:23:54.170
billboard truck to cut through the distracted

00:23:54.170 --> 00:23:57.089
world of advertising right now. The average consumer

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is exposed to 10 ,000 ads a day. And as we continue

00:24:01.569 --> 00:24:05.009
to get more distracted and ad -blind, We need

00:24:05.009 --> 00:24:08.750
these really bold and unique ways to reach the

00:24:08.750 --> 00:24:11.630
consumer and especially affordable ways along

00:24:11.630 --> 00:24:14.809
with that. So we use our truck in multiple different

00:24:14.809 --> 00:24:17.490
ways, whether it's subscription advertising to

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consistent high traffic areas or whether it's

00:24:20.490 --> 00:24:23.589
awesome local events like Christmas parades,

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like advertising at the state fair, the nationals.

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We just try to create as many affordable and

00:24:32.239 --> 00:24:34.400
unskippable advertising opportunities to local

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businesses all around the area. That's the thing,

00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:39.960
when you're stuck in traffic and that truck is

00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:44.380
in front of you, you can't look away. I love

00:24:44.380 --> 00:24:46.960
how you say that, the unskippable ad. Absolutely.

00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:51.299
I mean, at the end of the day, we're in such

00:24:51.299 --> 00:24:53.599
a young industry and we're such a young company.

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We don't have all these huge statistics to say,

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hey, you're going to get this many impressions,

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you're going to get this, you're going to get

00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:02.960
that. But at the end of the day, we can guarantee

00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:05.559
you're going to be seen in one of the most memorable

00:25:05.559 --> 00:25:08.839
ways possible. Again, 10 ,000 ads a day. As you

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see all those billboards, as you see all the

00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:13.500
ads on Facebook, you're going to probably remember

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most the one that would drive by on a big old

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TV with wheels. Yeah, I love how you describe

00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:21.819
that. A big old TV with wheels. Absolutely. Because

00:25:21.819 --> 00:25:24.220
that is what it is. That's the thing that the

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nerd in me has always found so interesting about

00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:30.420
your business is. You literally just have TVs.

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You've got screens on a truck that you can put

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anything on. It's not just a billboard, right?

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You can play movies. You could play a video game

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on this thing. Anything that can be plugged into

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an HDMI. So we've done, you know, Super Smash

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Bros. We've done Mario Kart, obviously. That's

00:25:45.420 --> 00:25:48.680
easily my favorite on there. I took it to my

00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:50.519
10 -year -old little brother's birthday party,

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and out of all the games, he suggested Mortal

00:25:52.420 --> 00:25:54.640
Kombat. So that was a fun one to have on there.

00:25:54.700 --> 00:25:57.720
That sounds awesome. You know, we've livestreamed

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Bill's games, March Madness. I mean, there's

00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:03.480
a lot of... I mean, really, it's absolutely limitless

00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:06.319
to what we can do with it. And there's three

00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:09.759
speakers on each side of the truck, too. So you

00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:11.539
can utilize those in any way possible. We've

00:26:11.539 --> 00:26:13.799
done some live concerts before, too, during COVID.

00:26:13.819 --> 00:26:15.960
That was a nice little pivot that we did during

00:26:15.960 --> 00:26:19.609
that season. That's so incredible. I love the

00:26:19.609 --> 00:26:21.849
idea. Since we first met, I've always had this

00:26:21.849 --> 00:26:24.170
idea of, let's drive the truck into the middle

00:26:24.170 --> 00:26:27.069
of a field and have a movie, right? Literally

00:26:27.069 --> 00:26:29.410
under the stars, but no electricity, no anything.

00:26:30.809 --> 00:26:34.089
It's just such a cool thing to me. Zach, we've

00:26:34.089 --> 00:26:36.009
talked about this before, but tell folks again

00:26:36.009 --> 00:26:38.250
a little bit about how you got into this. And

00:26:38.250 --> 00:26:41.049
I think what's really impressive, if folks haven't

00:26:41.049 --> 00:26:43.809
already figured it out. This guy, I think he

00:26:43.809 --> 00:26:46.630
just turned old enough to drink, what, a month

00:26:46.630 --> 00:26:51.150
ago or something? He's an incredible young entrepreneur.

00:26:51.289 --> 00:26:54.569
Tell us how you got here. Yeah, so when I was,

00:26:54.569 --> 00:26:57.549
I think I just turned 19, I was in Jefferson

00:26:57.549 --> 00:27:00.490
Community College up in Watertown. And I had

00:27:00.490 --> 00:27:03.049
kind of really just gone on a whim. And I was

00:27:03.049 --> 00:27:07.259
in my second semester here. And what had happened

00:27:07.259 --> 00:27:10.400
was we had these business intro classes where

00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:12.160
local entrepreneurs would come in and speak.

00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:15.680
And these two guys came in and spoke, and they

00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:17.480
represented Running Boards Marketing. It was

00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:19.700
the co -founders of it, and they're a digital

00:27:19.700 --> 00:27:21.480
mobile billboard company, the first one I ever

00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:24.440
seen in my entire life. You know, especially

00:27:24.440 --> 00:27:26.859
two years ago, it was even less prominent of

00:27:26.859 --> 00:27:30.059
a thing as it is today. And, you know, three

00:27:30.059 --> 00:27:33.400
years ago at this point. And I was just absolutely

00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:38.119
enamored by the idea. And from there, I basically

00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:40.599
borrowed a suit. I went to multiple networking

00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:42.559
events, and I just kind of pestered these guys

00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:45.279
until they had a job opportunity available. And

00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:48.579
as soon as they did, I got hired. I had never

00:27:48.579 --> 00:27:51.000
done sales before. I was just working at a diner

00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:53.579
serving. I mean, I did an internship that went

00:27:53.579 --> 00:27:58.369
good. And from day one, I had a fire lit under

00:27:58.369 --> 00:28:00.849
me to sell as much as I possibly could. I sold

00:28:00.849 --> 00:28:05.650
72 ads in one month, which was more than all

00:28:05.650 --> 00:28:07.950
the franchises did. It started as a franchise

00:28:07.950 --> 00:28:09.710
concept. They're actually in the entrepreneur

00:28:09.710 --> 00:28:13.130
magazine Franchise 500. So I was even more just

00:28:13.130 --> 00:28:15.450
completely enamored by the whole concept of it.

00:28:15.769 --> 00:28:17.990
And they grew the franchising side a little too

00:28:17.990 --> 00:28:20.589
fast. And that kind of crumbled the company.

00:28:20.950 --> 00:28:23.049
There wasn't enough capital behind it to really

00:28:23.049 --> 00:28:25.269
sustain such a big hit. they had to buy back

00:28:25.269 --> 00:28:28.369
10 of them almost right away. You know, COVID

00:28:28.369 --> 00:28:30.130
entrepreneurs, people who got a lot of money

00:28:30.130 --> 00:28:31.829
and were like, oh, I want to be an entrepreneur,

00:28:31.890 --> 00:28:33.849
but they didn't actually have the truck out there.

00:28:34.130 --> 00:28:36.309
We have one of the most incredible cold call

00:28:36.309 --> 00:28:38.630
methods and it needs to be used by anybody who

00:28:38.630 --> 00:28:41.029
has that truck. You know, to make a mock -up

00:28:41.029 --> 00:28:43.710
ad, to get in front of that business, for that

00:28:43.710 --> 00:28:46.109
to be your first impression of the salesperson

00:28:46.109 --> 00:28:48.470
or the owner or whoever is trying to sell you,

00:28:48.910 --> 00:28:52.970
it just makes for the most incredible you know,

00:28:53.329 --> 00:28:56.450
unique sales approach. You have such a unique

00:28:56.450 --> 00:28:59.789
way to demonstrate the product at the first sales

00:28:59.789 --> 00:29:02.450
meeting, like you said, I mean, that's, you know,

00:29:02.470 --> 00:29:04.690
we've seen it. The first time you were with us,

00:29:04.690 --> 00:29:06.910
you pull up and there's our logo on the truck

00:29:06.910 --> 00:29:09.750
and everybody, come on, I literally yelled, I

00:29:09.750 --> 00:29:11.309
remember to the office, come on, everybody, come

00:29:11.309 --> 00:29:14.690
out and see this. You can't deny it, especially

00:29:14.690 --> 00:29:16.250
as a business, there's nothing that makes a business

00:29:16.250 --> 00:29:19.609
owner more excited than seeing their logo in

00:29:19.609 --> 00:29:23.829
bright lights, right? What a great sales technique.

00:29:24.089 --> 00:29:25.890
It's truly worth all the time that goes into

00:29:25.890 --> 00:29:29.569
making all those cold call graphics. It's one

00:29:29.569 --> 00:29:31.549
of those things where you can just feel really

00:29:31.549 --> 00:29:34.670
good about what you do on a daily basis. Sometimes,

00:29:36.210 --> 00:29:40.069
I get it too, being pestered or being cold called

00:29:40.069 --> 00:29:43.710
by a salesperson isn't always the most exciting

00:29:43.710 --> 00:29:46.009
thing. You can have multiple outlooks on it.

00:29:46.569 --> 00:29:49.089
But at the end of the day, one time or another,

00:29:49.250 --> 00:29:51.210
it's going to it's going to frustrate you. It's

00:29:51.210 --> 00:29:53.529
going to upset you. Right. There's very few times

00:29:53.529 --> 00:29:56.150
where people are upset that I'm giving them free

00:29:56.150 --> 00:29:58.150
advertising just to talk to them for a minute.

00:29:58.309 --> 00:30:01.309
Yeah. I love just the idea of being able to spread

00:30:01.309 --> 00:30:03.930
that joy and to make smiles on people's face

00:30:03.930 --> 00:30:07.089
in that way. It just it's the absolute best.

00:30:07.349 --> 00:30:09.589
You know, and I really just I go at it like I'm

00:30:09.589 --> 00:30:12.069
just trying to make their day. And it always

00:30:12.069 --> 00:30:15.240
tends to work out. That's awesome, man. I just

00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:17.140
love your approach to everything. It's really

00:30:17.140 --> 00:30:21.880
cool. One thing that I've always been very impressed

00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:25.660
with is you personally have the skills to build

00:30:25.660 --> 00:30:28.099
these things, right? You're not even just, I'm

00:30:28.099 --> 00:30:30.640
a great entrepreneur. You talk about how you're

00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:32.579
enamored with the business and you figure out

00:30:32.579 --> 00:30:35.460
how to sell it, which is awesome. You also figured

00:30:35.460 --> 00:30:39.819
out how to literally do in the most granular

00:30:39.819 --> 00:30:42.779
level, how to literally build these giant screens.

00:30:43.779 --> 00:30:45.740
How long did it take you to figure out that stuff?

00:30:46.059 --> 00:30:48.000
Well, the lucky thing is I come from the beautiful

00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:50.059
generation that has the internet and we can ask

00:30:50.059 --> 00:30:52.660
the internet everything. So between three years

00:30:52.660 --> 00:30:57.759
of just taking stuff apart and really just reverse

00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:02.890
engineering how it works. in research on the

00:31:02.890 --> 00:31:05.250
internet. I mean within, I mean it took a little

00:31:05.250 --> 00:31:07.549
while to really click because there's a lot of

00:31:07.549 --> 00:31:09.369
electrical components that go with it too and

00:31:09.369 --> 00:31:12.130
I'm absolutely no electrician but I know that

00:31:12.130 --> 00:31:13.549
when I get shocked that I get to do something

00:31:13.549 --> 00:31:16.390
different. So you know but it probably took about

00:31:16.390 --> 00:31:18.990
a year until I really understood it and then

00:31:19.259 --> 00:31:23.500
You know two years to really really be able to

00:31:23.500 --> 00:31:25.579
retrofit a screen to anything at this point.

00:31:25.819 --> 00:31:29.500
Gotcha You know, I just I believe that technology

00:31:29.500 --> 00:31:33.680
is going to be a major part of our business.

00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:37.359
I think that there's very few people who understand

00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:40.279
how to build these screens in this area and of

00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:42.599
the people who do understand because they have

00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:44.900
such a big market share, they're able to charge

00:31:44.900 --> 00:31:48.720
a huge profit margin. So I'm able to do very

00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:51.539
similar or the same thing for a lot better of

00:31:51.539 --> 00:31:54.700
a value. Is that something that you also offer

00:31:54.700 --> 00:31:56.740
as a service? Can you go build a video screen

00:31:56.740 --> 00:31:58.460
for somebody or a truck for somebody if they

00:31:58.460 --> 00:32:01.329
want to? We absolutely can. It's nothing that

00:32:01.329 --> 00:32:04.069
I've been, you know, really outlay and trying

00:32:04.069 --> 00:32:06.430
to market. Right now I've been repairing some

00:32:06.430 --> 00:32:09.390
because that takes a lot less time than to actually

00:32:09.390 --> 00:32:12.210
be able to build some. I need to build a little

00:32:12.210 --> 00:32:15.029
bit more of a team behind me before I can start

00:32:15.029 --> 00:32:18.309
putting my focus over there. But if you go to,

00:32:18.309 --> 00:32:21.349
you know, anywhere in Asia, They have these screens

00:32:21.349 --> 00:32:24.849
on every building. We're 35 years behind the

00:32:24.849 --> 00:32:27.390
technology of those countries because that's

00:32:27.390 --> 00:32:29.549
all the manufacturing's in China. They don't

00:32:29.549 --> 00:32:32.569
have any American manufacturers for these panels

00:32:32.569 --> 00:32:37.769
and for these products. So I really am very excited

00:32:37.769 --> 00:32:41.269
to hopefully be at the forefront of that technology

00:32:41.269 --> 00:32:43.230
because every few years it gets better and it

00:32:43.230 --> 00:32:45.940
gets better. You know, the most recent years

00:32:45.940 --> 00:32:48.279
they were able to build the flexible panels.

00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:50.099
That's why they built the Vegas Sphere. What

00:32:50.099 --> 00:32:54.500
they built it from was those flexible P3, I believe,

00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:57.829
panels. And I think it's going to keep going.

00:32:57.950 --> 00:33:00.170
It's going to keep going. Eventually, we've already

00:33:00.170 --> 00:33:03.289
started seeing these transparent film LED screens.

00:33:03.369 --> 00:33:05.789
So you could put them on the outside of a hospital.

00:33:06.150 --> 00:33:08.109
And they're not seeing the advertising inside.

00:33:08.250 --> 00:33:10.289
They're just seeing outside. But outside, you

00:33:10.289 --> 00:33:12.630
can put whatever you want on that screen. That's

00:33:12.630 --> 00:33:15.180
incredible. So it's still a little. bit behind

00:33:15.180 --> 00:33:18.200
where I think where when it gets to that point,

00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:20.799
it's going to absolutely explode. But it's you

00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:23.599
know, technology has just got a way of reinventing

00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:26.160
itself every every few years. Yeah, that's that's

00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:28.940
incredible. What's neat to me is, you know, you

00:33:28.940 --> 00:33:32.240
mentioned panels and for people that don't know,

00:33:32.579 --> 00:33:34.420
they might see these things and look like that's

00:33:34.420 --> 00:33:36.839
that's a giant, you know, that's a 12 foot TV.

00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:39.819
Right. In reality, it's not. It's the combination

00:33:39.819 --> 00:33:42.240
of tiles. And like you can see on our screen

00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:46.319
where we've got six basically regular big -screen

00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:50.440
TVs here. But you use much smaller pieces, right?

00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:53.460
Yeah, they're about 192 millimeters, so about

00:33:53.460 --> 00:33:58.420
6 or 7 .5 inches. And yeah, I mean, the screens

00:33:58.420 --> 00:34:00.500
are made up of a whole bunch of them. I think

00:34:00.500 --> 00:34:05.910
on the truck... about 220 of them just on the

00:34:05.910 --> 00:34:08.230
truck alone on all of its three screens. So,

00:34:08.289 --> 00:34:11.590
you know, what that does is it also makes the

00:34:11.590 --> 00:34:13.710
maintenance and it makes everything about it

00:34:13.710 --> 00:34:15.889
so much easier, because if something goes wrong,

00:34:16.070 --> 00:34:17.929
it's likely going wrong with one square and not

00:34:17.929 --> 00:34:20.519
the whole screen. or a big section of the screen.

00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:23.699
So we try to pick the smaller panels. There's

00:34:23.699 --> 00:34:25.699
a few that are a little bit bigger, but the smaller

00:34:25.699 --> 00:34:27.679
panels, there's kind of less that can go wrong.

00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:31.139
The power is divided a lot more, so it's distributed

00:34:31.139 --> 00:34:33.139
a lot more, so it's just a lot easier to maintain.

00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:36.880
That's incredible. That's incredible, man. So

00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:40.960
many cool things that you have going on. Let's

00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.059
talk about coming up. We're coming to the holiday

00:34:43.059 --> 00:34:47.630
season, right? Yes. And that means parades. and

00:34:47.630 --> 00:34:50.489
all kinds of good things, and that's also one

00:34:50.489 --> 00:34:54.909
of your main staples, right? Yeah, we will be

00:34:54.909 --> 00:34:57.329
at just about every local parade you can find

00:34:57.329 --> 00:35:00.369
from here to, you know, to Clayton and Alex Bay

00:35:00.369 --> 00:35:03.869
area up north. Wow. That's a big part of our

00:35:03.869 --> 00:35:07.030
business. You know, any time any parade really,

00:35:07.170 --> 00:35:09.989
it's we're guaranteed to be the most noticeable

00:35:09.989 --> 00:35:12.590
float. Sure. And again, with the digital screens,

00:35:12.670 --> 00:35:15.610
it allows us to represent either one business

00:35:15.610 --> 00:35:18.309
or allows us to represent multiple businesses,

00:35:18.730 --> 00:35:21.780
give them a really affordable. opportunity to

00:35:21.780 --> 00:35:26.000
put a holidays message to run a sale or whatever

00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:28.199
it is, and they don't got to go out in the cold

00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:30.659
and sit there with a wagon and a truck with a

00:35:30.659 --> 00:35:33.280
banner on it. We can be their float for them.

00:35:33.619 --> 00:35:38.489
We got the three speakers, we play music. A lot

00:35:38.489 --> 00:35:40.570
of the time our candy throwers are dressed as

00:35:40.570 --> 00:35:42.929
Buddy the elf. We have a whole team of candy

00:35:42.929 --> 00:35:46.369
throwers. Nice. So I'm looking to do a little

00:35:46.369 --> 00:35:49.050
revamping to our candy thrower costumes this

00:35:49.050 --> 00:35:51.469
year. So that's always a very fun side of it.

00:35:51.829 --> 00:35:55.809
We try to make it the most unique experience

00:35:55.809 --> 00:35:58.309
possible. Our spirit really comes out during

00:35:58.309 --> 00:36:00.809
those events and it's just incredibly fun to

00:36:00.809 --> 00:36:03.550
be a part of. I love that whole idea that you

00:36:03.550 --> 00:36:05.989
can be the float. for businesses because, you

00:36:05.989 --> 00:36:09.170
know, I'm a business owner myself. Sure, we love

00:36:09.170 --> 00:36:11.090
to participate in those things and they're fun.

00:36:11.449 --> 00:36:13.969
But I feel like the days of people having the

00:36:13.969 --> 00:36:16.369
time and the space and the resources to build.

00:36:16.449 --> 00:36:18.650
And then if you build a nice one, you got to

00:36:18.650 --> 00:36:20.710
keep it somewhere, right? Year after year, these

00:36:20.710 --> 00:36:23.289
giant floats that we used to see in parades.

00:36:24.570 --> 00:36:26.969
The idea that you could have something this awesome

00:36:26.969 --> 00:36:30.650
and attractive, you know, and be in these parades

00:36:30.650 --> 00:36:32.409
and get that local representation, I think it's

00:36:32.409 --> 00:36:36.150
awesome. Like you said, it's the most attention

00:36:36.150 --> 00:36:39.449
grabbing thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's especially

00:36:39.449 --> 00:36:42.510
when you get really, you know, we try to push

00:36:42.510 --> 00:36:45.010
people towards more creative graphic design because

00:36:45.010 --> 00:36:47.469
there's just some really fun ways that our truck

00:36:47.469 --> 00:36:49.889
can be utilized, whether it's the messaging or

00:36:49.889 --> 00:36:52.789
whether it's the images and just make it incredible.

00:36:52.929 --> 00:36:57.199
I love to do the You know the animated ads with

00:36:57.199 --> 00:36:59.920
this type of thing whether it's the you know

00:36:59.920 --> 00:37:01.880
reindeer flying around the logo I mean, there's

00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:04.099
just really fun stuff that we can do with it

00:37:04.099 --> 00:37:05.659
Well, it's a thing the other difference between

00:37:05.659 --> 00:37:08.199
a traditional sort of static billboard right

00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:10.300
is that's just a solid picture Yeah, like you

00:37:10.300 --> 00:37:11.820
said you could put a little element that makes

00:37:11.820 --> 00:37:14.420
it extra eye -catching and especially at night

00:37:14.420 --> 00:37:17.900
I mean that thing lit up at night. It is cool.

00:37:18.019 --> 00:37:21.639
I mean you can't look away from that is that

00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:23.199
couple more things, you know, and we'll let you

00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:27.769
get back to it, but You mentioned a couple times

00:37:27.769 --> 00:37:30.170
now that what you offer some real affordable

00:37:30.170 --> 00:37:32.489
ways. Can you talk about that? Because quite

00:37:32.489 --> 00:37:35.449
frankly, I think what you have is incredible

00:37:35.449 --> 00:37:37.369
in terms of your offering and affordability to

00:37:37.369 --> 00:37:39.250
businesses. And I'd love to just mention that

00:37:39.250 --> 00:37:41.389
a little bit. Yeah. So I've always been really

00:37:41.389 --> 00:37:45.210
focused on creating these affordable marketing

00:37:45.210 --> 00:37:47.550
opportunities for small businesses because I

00:37:47.550 --> 00:37:50.809
really believe and I know personally how difficult

00:37:50.809 --> 00:37:52.969
it can be, especially throughout the whole season.

00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:56.280
to really find that budget for marketing, but

00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:59.599
it's such an absolutely crucial and essential

00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:04.639
thing. We see businesses fall all the time because

00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:08.380
of improper marketing or lack of marketing. People

00:38:08.380 --> 00:38:12.260
can't know what you don't tell them, right? So

00:38:12.260 --> 00:38:15.300
that's always been a big passion of mine is just

00:38:15.300 --> 00:38:17.500
creating these opportunities. That's what started

00:38:17.500 --> 00:38:20.059
with our subscription route. where I said we're

00:38:20.059 --> 00:38:22.500
going to drive this area, you know, Monday through

00:38:22.500 --> 00:38:25.380
Friday, this time to this time, and we're going

00:38:25.380 --> 00:38:28.159
to start as low as $300 for a whole month of

00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:30.440
advertising. And obviously we have packages to

00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:33.159
amplify that, to show off a lot more. But with

00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:35.679
these events, too, it gives us a really nice

00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:39.280
opportunity to build a share of the cost with

00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:41.420
a few local businesses, as opposed to getting

00:38:41.420 --> 00:38:44.659
one big one. So with the parades, most of them,

00:38:44.699 --> 00:38:48.619
we have spots that start at $199. I can't think

00:38:48.619 --> 00:38:51.960
of many other ways to spend $199 to get in front

00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:56.739
of that many people. It is absolutely just about

00:38:56.739 --> 00:38:59.579
the best value you can get. Yeah. I love that.

00:38:59.579 --> 00:39:01.619
Because again, it's guaranteed impressions. A

00:39:01.619 --> 00:39:03.619
lot of people spend money on marketing not even

00:39:03.619 --> 00:39:05.800
knowing if people are going to see it. It might

00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:08.889
get ignored. It might be buried. At the end of

00:39:08.889 --> 00:39:12.210
the day, $199 to get thousands of people to see

00:39:12.210 --> 00:39:14.889
your business in that positive light. You just

00:39:14.889 --> 00:39:19.210
really can't compare when it comes to other values.

00:39:20.789 --> 00:39:23.989
I think it's a big deal to have a billboard,

00:39:24.110 --> 00:39:27.750
right? Even for everyday consumers, if they see

00:39:27.750 --> 00:39:28.989
whether it's driving down the road, it's seeing

00:39:28.989 --> 00:39:31.210
on your truck, something like that. It's in New

00:39:31.210 --> 00:39:33.750
York City and it's one of the video screens that

00:39:33.750 --> 00:39:36.119
are on the buildings and things like that. That

00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:38.900
is a huge deal for everybody because that just

00:39:38.900 --> 00:39:41.480
has this impression that A, it's super expensive

00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:44.739
and that business has reached that level, right?

00:39:44.820 --> 00:39:47.280
They're at that capacity to where they can be

00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:51.300
in the sky or on the side of something. So the

00:39:51.300 --> 00:39:54.280
fact that you can provide that value to folks

00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:57.920
for not thousands of dollars, which I don't think

00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:00.460
a lot of people really understand how expensive.

00:40:01.300 --> 00:40:04.179
traditional billboards are. It is insane and

00:40:04.179 --> 00:40:07.679
not, I believe every marketing strategy should

00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.440
have multiple methods, right? You can't just

00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:12.559
do one thing and be like, oh that's gonna work.

00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:15.960
So, but when you're talking about billboards

00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:19.380
and how many of them there are, you know, they

00:40:19.380 --> 00:40:22.000
become blended into the landscape. They're also

00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:23.860
all the way up there and there's some that aren't

00:40:23.860 --> 00:40:26.119
even lit up at night, which absolutely amazes

00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:28.760
me. In a place that gets dark at 4 p .m. it's

00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:32.860
like... You'd think it's spring for the LED lights

00:40:32.860 --> 00:40:36.599
on there, but you know. You know, it's wild the

00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:38.760
way folks do stuff. But we're eye level to you,

00:40:38.980 --> 00:40:41.460
right? Right in front of you, absolutely unmissable,

00:40:41.699 --> 00:40:44.880
unskippable. Are there, and I know we talked

00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:46.920
about this before, but I just love folks to hear

00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:49.219
about, are there particular routes, particular

00:40:49.219 --> 00:40:52.010
roads where people in... in our area anyway might

00:40:52.010 --> 00:40:54.469
see you most often. Yeah, and there's definitely

00:40:54.469 --> 00:40:57.630
Route 11 and 31 in Cicero. It continues to be

00:40:57.630 --> 00:40:59.730
one of the busiest intersections of the Greater

00:40:59.730 --> 00:41:02.250
Cherokees area right now. Lots of people are

00:41:02.250 --> 00:41:04.530
absolutely disgusted by it because there's traffic

00:41:04.530 --> 00:41:07.449
any way you go around it. I mean, it is. You

00:41:07.449 --> 00:41:09.610
go on 81 South, there's traffic. You go down

00:41:09.610 --> 00:41:12.570
11, there's traffic half the time. On 31, they

00:41:12.570 --> 00:41:16.889
just finished that roundabout. But not only because

00:41:16.889 --> 00:41:19.190
of the traffic patterns as an avi, but it's also

00:41:19.190 --> 00:41:24.269
a really popular intersection and a really good

00:41:24.269 --> 00:41:26.670
access point to multiple places in Syracuse.

00:41:26.829 --> 00:41:29.469
The rush hour commute mainly is what we stick

00:41:29.469 --> 00:41:32.670
to because it's just an incredible amount of

00:41:32.670 --> 00:41:35.590
cars and a lot of standstill traffic. So we try

00:41:35.590 --> 00:41:38.070
to hit those consistent routes because they consistently

00:41:38.070 --> 00:41:41.050
have the volume to get there. You get the most

00:41:41.050 --> 00:41:45.710
eyes. Yeah. The worst part of traffic that everyone

00:41:45.710 --> 00:41:48.809
in Syracuse complains about is your sweet spot,

00:41:49.170 --> 00:41:51.889
right? Yes. Absolutely. I love that. I love that.

00:41:53.349 --> 00:41:55.409
I was thinking about this the other day. Are

00:41:55.409 --> 00:41:58.269
there any rules in terms of where you can or

00:41:58.269 --> 00:42:01.349
can't run your signs? One thing I was thinking

00:42:01.349 --> 00:42:04.690
of, if you go to an event, Utica, can you run

00:42:04.690 --> 00:42:06.429
things all the way down the throughway and things

00:42:06.429 --> 00:42:10.309
like that? Yeah. So I have yet to find through

00:42:10.309 --> 00:42:13.829
research or through, you know, through somebody

00:42:13.829 --> 00:42:16.769
of authority telling me anything that limits

00:42:16.769 --> 00:42:19.989
us, except for the fact that, you know, past

00:42:19.989 --> 00:42:23.670
10 p .m. it's we shouldn't have the truck going.

00:42:23.670 --> 00:42:27.690
I see. In certain villages or certain towns,

00:42:28.789 --> 00:42:32.469
the having video and audio while the truck is

00:42:32.469 --> 00:42:36.849
driving actively is more frowned upon ish. Yeah.

00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:39.079
You know, it's not something we necessarily want

00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:41.199
to do. That's something we'd like to park and

00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:43.780
have it be, you know, a more effective campaign

00:42:43.780 --> 00:42:48.099
that way. But I have ran into very little and

00:42:48.099 --> 00:42:50.800
knock on wood here, I've ran into very little.

00:42:52.179 --> 00:42:54.099
occasions where people are like, you can't do

00:42:54.099 --> 00:42:56.079
that, you can't do that. Because it's such a

00:42:56.079 --> 00:42:59.039
new industry, especially in this area. In those

00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:01.139
big, big cities like Las Vegas, New York City,

00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:03.239
that I've had them for a few years, they have

00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:05.440
all these laws and regulations, but we don't

00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:09.760
have much in our specific area. But again, I

00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:12.900
just try to always just provide these incredible

00:43:12.900 --> 00:43:15.440
opportunities and hope it all pans out. Yeah,

00:43:15.460 --> 00:43:18.360
no, I hear you. And you know, the reality is

00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:20.559
it seems unique to us. But the more and more

00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:22.719
you think of it, it is no different than anything

00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:24.920
else. It's no different than the, you know, the

00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:27.219
store on the side of the road that has the fake

00:43:27.219 --> 00:43:29.659
red police light flashing everywhere all night

00:43:29.659 --> 00:43:34.219
long. And, you know, I mean, really, if you look

00:43:34.219 --> 00:43:36.300
at if you look at because of how high the truck

00:43:36.300 --> 00:43:40.179
sets up. If you're really looking at what everybody's

00:43:40.179 --> 00:43:41.599
doing while they're driving anyway, they're on

00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:44.079
their phones. Everybody's on their phones. It's

00:43:44.079 --> 00:43:48.460
absolutely insane to see just how many people

00:43:48.460 --> 00:43:50.380
are truly just sitting there on their phones

00:43:50.380 --> 00:43:53.079
in traffic. And then we drive by them and keep

00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:56.440
their eyes right on the road. So it's definitely

00:43:56.440 --> 00:43:57.940
not any more distracting than that. There you

00:43:57.940 --> 00:44:00.460
go. There you go. I feel like the DOT should

00:44:00.460 --> 00:44:02.760
contract with you just to play some... Yeah,

00:44:02.860 --> 00:44:04.760
don't worry guys. It'll be over soon or some

00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:06.920
kind of like calming messages. You know, that's

00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:08.199
that's where they're missing. They gotta get

00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:09.840
the yeah, they gotta put the humor in there.

00:44:10.260 --> 00:44:13.900
Right, right. That's awesome. And Zach from ads

00:44:13.900 --> 00:44:17.239
on the go get ads on the go dot com is the website.

00:44:18.500 --> 00:44:20.900
Zach, is that the best place if folks want to

00:44:20.900 --> 00:44:22.219
advertise their business, they want to have an

00:44:22.219 --> 00:44:23.940
event, something like that? Is the website the

00:44:23.940 --> 00:44:25.139
best place to go, or is there other spots you

00:44:25.139 --> 00:44:26.420
should go to? The website's a great place to

00:44:26.420 --> 00:44:29.780
go. You can also give me a call or text 315 -816

00:44:29.780 --> 00:44:32.679
-0633 anytime of the day. If I don't answer you

00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:35.159
right away, I'll answer you the second I get

00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:37.920
a minute to do so. That's awesome, man. That's

00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:41.840
awesome. Zach, as always, man, we love having

00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:44.699
you here. Thank you again, as I mentioned earlier,

00:44:44.780 --> 00:44:48.559
for all your support of the show. And for folks

00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:52.079
that are listening, look forward to Off the Earth.

00:44:52.260 --> 00:44:54.340
We're planning some things where we're going

00:44:54.340 --> 00:44:57.360
to do even more things with Zach and his trucks

00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:01.940
and screens and nerdy gadgets. And after my own

00:45:01.940 --> 00:45:05.260
heart here. Buddy, anything else we should tell

00:45:05.260 --> 00:45:08.519
folks before we dip for the day? No, I think

00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:10.739
that's just about it. I appreciate you guys very

00:45:10.739 --> 00:45:13.340
much. I appreciate all the kind words and I appreciate

00:45:13.340 --> 00:45:15.960
the support right back to you. I think, you know,

00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:18.739
we live in an incredible world and an incredible

00:45:18.739 --> 00:45:21.780
area here where we can all, you know, use each

00:45:21.780 --> 00:45:26.219
other to in a very beneficial way to grow our

00:45:26.219 --> 00:45:29.460
businesses. And I just think if everybody does

00:45:29.460 --> 00:45:31.579
that, then we just have an incredible world here.

00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:33.480
I couldn't I couldn't agree more. I couldn't

00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:37.940
agree more, man. Zach from ads on the go. Always

00:45:37.940 --> 00:45:42.380
a great guest. Welcome anytime. Mike, I gotta

00:45:42.380 --> 00:45:44.420
go through a quick shout out to Mike for running

00:45:44.420 --> 00:45:48.559
the board while I'm here and not making too many

00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:53.280
jokes about me. What else we got? Hey, we got

00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:55.260
sweatshirts. I'm looking at myself in the mirror.

00:45:56.059 --> 00:45:59.380
Everybody loves this face drug shirt. I made

00:45:59.380 --> 00:46:01.699
this for myself years ago just because I wanted

00:46:01.699 --> 00:46:04.199
a vintage face drug shirt. And I'll tell you

00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:08.010
what, I finally understand what attractive people

00:46:08.010 --> 00:46:11.190
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00:46:11.190 --> 00:46:13.590
walk through the mall and every third person

00:46:13.590 --> 00:46:18.789
will go, hey, nice shirt, hey. Damn. Cool, man.

00:46:20.010 --> 00:46:22.110
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00:46:22.110 --> 00:46:25.230
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00:46:25.230 --> 00:46:28.969
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00:46:29.449 --> 00:46:32.619
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00:46:32.619 --> 00:46:35.559
York's favorite local brand that we all miss

00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:38.719
very much. That's what we got. Yeah, I love the

00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:42.719
nostalgia. I'm a big nostalgia fan, man. And

00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:45.239
with that, this has been Good News York. We will

00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:49.039
join you tomorrow for another fun -filled episode.

00:46:49.139 --> 00:46:53.219
I know we got some cool guests and good news.

00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:56.519
So with that, peace out.
