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Hello and welcome to Good News York sponsored

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by As in the Go, Get As in the Go dot com, Mike

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Brindisi with you. Not in studio. I wish this

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was our studio. It's absolutely beautiful. I

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am here today at Syracuse Orthopedic Specialists

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to meet some of the team. They also the team

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members for Operation Walk New York, which is

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a nonprofit volunteer medical services organization

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providing free hip and knee joint replacement

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for patients who are underserved. Kim Murray,

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Vinny Marino, Amelia Serio, and Jim Colon. Did

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I say your name right, Serio? Serio. Okay, I

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got it right. So you guys do so much, and I want

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to get into all of that, but let's start. Just

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go around the table, introduce yourself, and

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tell us a little bit about what you do. So my

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name is Amelia Serio. I work at ASWA as a medical

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assistant. I'm the team, I was that patient care

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assistant, so helping out with physical therapy

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and the nurses, it was just amazing experience.

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Great. I'm Kim Murray. I'm the chief clinical

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officer here at Syracuse Ospetic Specialists,

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and my role in Operation Walk New York is I am

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a board member and the clinical director for

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the program. And I'm Jim Colon for SOS. I am

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the director of ancillary services at some of

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the clinical departments, including radiology.

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And for Operation Walk, I'm the cargo logistics

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coordinator. I'm Vincent Marino at SOS. I am

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one of the physical therapists here and in the

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department I also do operations supervisor. And

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then as part of the team of Operation Walk, I'm

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part of the therapy staff there, you know, getting

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people up, they have surgery, you get them walking,

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get them moving. Awesome. Now, obviously, as,

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you know, employees of SOS, You do amazing things

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to begin with. You're providing medical services.

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But what's really exciting is Operation Walk,

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which is your non for profit where you provide

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medical services for people who are in countries

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that are underprivileged. Recently, you guys

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did a trip to Ghana and I mean, we could talk

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about that this entire time because it's amazing.

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Why don't you tell us a little bit about how

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Operation Walk came about? and kind of what it

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is exactly that you do. Okay, sure. So Operation

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WAW is a national organization. It was founded

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by a world -renowned joint replacement surgeon

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in 1995, Dr. Larry Dorr. He has since passed

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away, but left a great legacy behind being the

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Operation WAW medical mission program that he

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founded. So since 1995, he was... based in LA.

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So the first Operation Walk chapter was Operation

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Walk LA, and they began going to, they started

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in Russia, but then they began going other places

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in the world to provide access to hip and knee

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replacement surgery, where that was not available.

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Not available because they didn't have the skill

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set for the surgeons there, and certainly not

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available because they didn't have the implants

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and equipment needed for the surgery. So when

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he launched that and became very successful,

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And then over the course of the years, between

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1995 and now, they have had other geographic

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locations of Denver, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh,

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Boston, Chicago, Syracuse, which has expanded

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to New York, reach out to the LA organization

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and say, hey, we'd like to start our own chapter.

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So we function loosely organized with an overarching

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umbrella of Operation Walk. but then we have

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individual chapters that are our own independent

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501c3 organizations that we take our show on

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the road with our own volunteers to go to other

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places in the world that don't have access to

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hip and knee replacement surgery. That's amazing.

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So it's less about funding and just more about

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the skill set that they lack over there. You

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mean in terms of need? In terms of need, yeah.

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Yeah, it's both. So they don't have the skill

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set because they don't have the funding or the

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access to what they need to do the surgery. So

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no one would go down the path of developing that

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skill set when they don't have access to what

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they need to be able to do those surgeries. Absolutely.

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That makes so much sense. How do you go about

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finding a team that wants to be a part of this

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and building that team? So we launched in 2010.

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Our first medical mission trip was to Nepal.

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That was our orientation trip. So we fielded

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a team of about 50 people that went to Nepal.

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It was such a tremendous experience, and the

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volunteers had so, you know, so emotionally overwhelming

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with the good that we were able to do there.

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Really seeing the outcomes in patients that each

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year as we developed and strategize and plan

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for a new trim. The word, the power of the word

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of the volunteers speaks for itself. We rarely

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have trouble filling positions because people

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want to return as a team member when they can.

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Sometimes life prevents them from doing that.

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Conflicts with time off, conflicts with weddings,

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life events and things like that. But most volunteers

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always want to return. And then when we do have

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vacancies on the team, through that word of mouth

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and just telling our story, we have plenty of

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volunteers that want to jump on and become part

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of that team. I mean, how could you not want

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to? It's such an amazing thing that you do. And

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now with Operation Walk, obviously, we're going

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to talk about the trip to Ghana. And you talked

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about Nepal. What is everyday life in Syracuse

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like for Operation Walk? What are some of the

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kind of things that you do here on a daily basis?

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Yep, so I'm going to let Jim talk about one of

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the biggest things, but an overarching kind of

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planning for a mission trip. There's several

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components to it. The planning starts about a

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year out. It's about a year long process for

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a variety of reasons. The number one being financial

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support. Our team is completely a volunteer team.

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Nobody in Operation Walk in any chapter, including

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ours, draws a salary. We have no administrative

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staff. It's really a 100 % volunteer organization.

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And so everything we do to fund the trip really

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relies on the generosity of others, fundraising

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activities, spreading word of mouth, and trying

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to get the money we need to be able to feel the

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trip. So that's the first thing. We have to get

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to a certain amount in our bank account in order

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to say, OK, hey, we have enough money. We can

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go ahead and start planning the logistics of

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the trip. So there's the financial component.

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There's the operational component of fielding

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the team, you know, doing the logistics, working

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with whatever country we're going to, with the

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governmental relations, with all, with the hospital

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that we're going to be working with, with the

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healthcare providers that are queuing up the

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patients and getting them ready for us to see.

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And then actually just all the logistics that

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go along with the trip. The biggest piece, which

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I'm going to turn over to Jim to talk about,

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is the preparation of the supplies and cargo.

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And that's his... lifelong activity for a year.

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It is, yeah. So, like Kim said, you look at the

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bank account and you try to determine, is it

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realistic to take a trip in any given year? And

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then we start backdating and we say, okay, we

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have a target of an October trip, so we have

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to start counting backwards. We know how long

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it takes to get... attempt to get granted implants

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and all the consumables. When we backdate, we

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start looking at, we have a local shipping partner

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here that's been great to us at Seco Logistics.

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And we look at a potential shipping date. We

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know now that we've been to Ghana six times.

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Six times. We know how long it takes to ship

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to. typically arrive to Ghana. So we set the

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date and when we started backdating, we realized

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typically, oh, we're late. And so then it's a

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lot of paperwork as fast as possible to try to

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get implant companies to donate the implants

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and to start counting the inventory that's sitting

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at Seco on the shelves from the last trip, what's

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back, what's outdated and what's usable. You

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know, talk a little bit about, it's a standalone

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operation, meaning that when we go to the destination,

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we bring, we're reliant, probably 95 % or greater

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on everything we bring and ship in advance. So

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a lot of Jim's role in his team, he has a team

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of local people that help with that, are getting

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the donations or purchasing. the items, but just

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talk about the breadth of the items that you

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bring. Yeah, we have an inventory list, a par

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level list of what we would typically bring on

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any particular trip, and we have the column of

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here's what we have now, and the numbers are

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typically very low, here's what we need to make

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the trip, and here's the balance, here's what

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we have to acquire, and that's when we start

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begging, borrowing, maybe stealing. supplies

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and we get as much donated as possible until

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we finally get to the point of Kim gives the

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okay okay start start placing orders and we have

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a great partner over at our surgery center a

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couple of great partners at the surgery center

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who do inventory and procurement that's that's

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their their specialty and we start placing orders

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and they start showing up at the warehouse in

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my garage and it's We ship 20 full pallets of

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products, and that goes into a 40 -foot container,

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which is an 18 -wheeler container. And those

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pallets are all packed exactly at the maximum

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height of, well, I know it's to my fingertips.

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And those are full. We have a deadline to get

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the truck down to the Port of New Jersey. where

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it then goes on the ship and then we watch it

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go overseas and finally hit the port in Ghana

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and then from there anything goes. We can get

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to that too. The interesting part is unpacking

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the container in Ghana. A team of 50 people unpacked

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the truck in, what, two, three hours we have.

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We haven't marched it, you know, to where it

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needs to go and disperse it throughout the hospital.

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It's quite the event. That is amazing. And it's

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really... Think about, like, the scope of what's

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brought. It's the band -aids to the implants

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that are actually put in the hips and knees,

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and then everything between. It's suture, it's

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the OR supplies, it's crutches, it's lockers,

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it's everything. The only thing we do is there's

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certain things that, a small amount of things

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we purchase in country, because it doesn't make

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sense. IV bags are big, they're heavy. Why would

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we... pack IV bags and send them over. So we,

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we purchase those in country from them. It also

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supports their elderly autonomy when we do that.

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And then some medications, they can't, you can't

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ship the things we buy. But other than that,

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you know, Jim and his team, all the team of volunteers

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have really procured every single thing you can

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possibly need for the trip. That is absolutely

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mind blowing to me. I can't even go to the grocery

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store and remember everything on my list. I can't

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imagine having to prep. for this kind of trip.

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Are there any, because it is, you know, different

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countries, different laws, how do you deal with

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the legal side of things? Are there things that

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you kind of have to hurdle or work around or

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work with? Government relations in any country

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are challenging. So the foundation is having

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good relationships with, you know, your destination

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hospital, the administration of that hospital,

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and then the Minister of Health. the Minister

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of Commerce, all those ministries within a country.

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And very honestly, Ghana has been challenging

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because their government turns over quite frequently.

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And just when you forge the right relationships,

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you get the right paperwork in place, you think,

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okay, we're good this time. Okay, government

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turns over and it's like Groundhog Day, you're

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starting all over, like, hey, we're out, we should

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walk newer. Again, Jim deals with a lot of that

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and a lot, especially the import paperwork, the,

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you know, everything we need to get those supplies

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in there because we can get the team in there

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pretty easily. But if the supplies aren't there,

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you know, it's the mission's a no -go. Yeah.

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And, you know, before we get into the Ghana trip,

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real quick, what is the process of kind of finding

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out where there is, you know, what countries

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are in need of these services? How do you go

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about choosing where you do these missions? Yep,

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so as part of the National Umbrella Organization,

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there are established sites. What it means by

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established sites, it means that those government

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relations have been forged, that you have an

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in -country host or angel, sometimes they call

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them. It's willing to work with you at that end

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to accrue the patients to the hospitals that

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the operational teams work with have to virtually

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shut down their ORs for the time that we're there.

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So they have to have some level of agreement

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that they'll do that, that they'll support the

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patient care before we get there, and then after

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we leave, that they'll continue that patient

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care. So that's critically important, is that

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you have those relations. So there's probably

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20 sites that we would call established operation

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walk sites, and all of the teams can rotate through

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those. We've been to other countries besides

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Ghana, but in 2014, the LA kind of mothership

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reached out and said, hey, someone in Ghana says

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there's a significant need there, which there

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is, and I'll let these guys talk about that,

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would you consider going to Ghana? So that involved

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probably two or three scouting trips to Ghana

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to make the right relations. That's what our

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team did, to make the right connections, to make

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sure you had the support, that you had a destination

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you could go to, and that you had medical staff

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and administrative staff willing to do what they

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needed to do to bring us there. So we established

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Ghana in 2014. So that's kind of an Operation

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Walk New York startup for Ghana. But then any

00:14:39.590 --> 00:14:43.169
Operation Walk team is able to go there. So any

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Operation Walk team can go to any site that's

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established. But Ghana is really the one that

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we launched and the one we own. I think we've

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really felt very committed to Ghana because it's

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where we can do the most good. for the, you know,

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the most value, the most good with the people

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that need it the most. The difference between

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Ghana and a lot of the other countries, the people

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are younger. So sickle cell. So in Ghana, the

00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:09.559
black Africans have sickle cell anemia, which

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causes they have actually necrosis of the hips.

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So we're working on young people there. Our average

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age of our hips are what, 30? Twenty -five. Yeah,

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so younger. We go to other countries that's mostly

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untreated, trauma and arthritis, and are older.

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So we're working on young people and really changing

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lives in ways that doesn't happen in other countries.

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You know, we have people that come in and they

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haven't sat in a chair for seven years. They

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haven't worked. Their husbands or wives have

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left them because they can't have kids. And we

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fix that, and then they can... Hopefully give

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head to life some of the people we fixed in the

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past there are now students and teachers and

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and So we the good that we do there. That's what

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we've really committed to. That's why we like

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Ghana That's amazing. And if you guys don't know

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I'm not a doctor I know shopping so but I do

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wonder you know, you're coming from a country

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where primarily your Your patients are older

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and now you're going to a country where you just

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said they're you know, 24 25 years old From a

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medical standpoint, does that change any procedures

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or in the way that they recovered? Is it something

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that you have to kind of learn before you go?

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I bring a lot more crutches and walkers. Okay,

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here they get walkers, there they get crutches.

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All right. So we've learned that over the years

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that we don't need as many walkers. But there's

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challenges on the orthopedic side with the physicians

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and how they do the surgeries because the pathology

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is different. It's much more severe as far as

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just how bad the joints are compared to here.

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And then their bones are different, right? Yeah,

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the skilled surgical team that we bring and we've

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got, I would say one of our surgeons that goes

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has 40 years experience as a joint replacement

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physician. And he clearly still says, these are

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the toughest cases I've ever done in my life

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because of what Vinny identified. The pathology

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is different. The age is different. But when

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you talk about the recovery, the recovery is

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pretty quick. They're very hardy people that

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don't have antibiotic resistance because they

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don't take antibiotics like we do. They take

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very few medications. and they're really committed

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to having the surgery and getting up and just

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starting in right away, their recovery. They're

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hardy people, very resilient, and this is so

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life -changing for them that they really don't

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care that they're going to experience the pain

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of surgery or whatever. Six to 10 hours after

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bilateral knees or bilateral hips, we'll have

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them up and walking, and they're smiling. Oh

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my God. It's really... different and then we

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learn a lot there by what we do there out of

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necessity or out of just because of the pathologies

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a little different we bring some of that experiences

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home and say hey we can do these things here

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in the states because we've seen it work in this

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situation so. And Amelia, no, Amelia is out on

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the floor, so she's, you know, the OR people

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are doing their thing, recovery room, you know,

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PT, but Amelia's at the end where she's seeing

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all of that pre and post -op, so that would be

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great if you could kind of enjoy it. The second

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day we walked in, it was amazing, just the way

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people walking around were like, oh, take a second,

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let's help you out here, and they're just running

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around, and they're all just like, everybody

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was taking videos of each other walking around,

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and just so amazing. A lot of them are going

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back to university and school, even if they had

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said different educational pathways that they

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weren't able to access before the surgery, so

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just... Yeah. So many questions about the trip

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itself, but real quick, do you all play a different

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individual role when you go over, or is it kind

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of you're all on the... Obviously, you're all

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on the same team. You're all doing the same thing,

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or does everybody kind of have a different role?

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Yeah, the team is made up of... and all of the

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roles we need, the traditional roles here in

00:19:01.470 --> 00:19:04.150
country. You know, the surgical team, which is

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surgeons, anesthesia providers, OR teams, the

00:19:06.349 --> 00:19:08.589
recovery room teams, physical therapy, you know,

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logistics, cargo, floor staff, all of that. But

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one of the big things is, you know, functions

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within their scope of practice. But also part

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of the onboarding for volunteers is we clearly

00:19:20.349 --> 00:19:24.650
say, you do what you're gonna do within your

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role, but then you're gonna do everything else.

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I like to say there, I'm a physical therapist,

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but I also do whatever Kim needs me to do. You

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know, I've had physicians walking holding IV

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bags while I'm walking patients. Wouldn't happen

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here in the States. You know, or we had one of

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our volunteers is a director of HR of a hospital

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system and he's a patient care assistant on the

00:19:43.740 --> 00:19:47.039
trip. You know, so, you know, everybody just

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jump on board and do what needs to be done. There's

00:19:49.700 --> 00:19:52.880
always something to do. Yeah. Along those lines,

00:19:53.279 --> 00:19:55.079
what does it feel like for the Operation Walk

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Team to go from a U .S. hospital environment

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to a Ghanaian context of limited resources? How

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does that shift your perspective on things? Well,

00:20:06.900 --> 00:20:09.890
we've been there. enough at the same hospital

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with a lot of the same phases. So we've adjusted,

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we've adjusted the equipment we go with, we adjust

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our expectations. But you know that you may show

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up in some of the surgical lighting doesn't work.

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Or much of the surgical lighting doesn't work.

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So you bring everything you can, maybe it's lighting

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on tripods, maybe it's... you know, hiking headlamps.

00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:40.799
So we've learned and we're comfortable going

00:20:40.799 --> 00:20:45.359
there now, expecting the unexpected. But they

00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:51.480
do have, this is a big old hospital and they

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do know what they're doing. They have biomed

00:20:53.140 --> 00:20:55.319
people there. I'm also supposed to be a biomed

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guy. My extent is duct tape and batteries. He's

00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:05.299
got a paper clip and a rubber band. Well, when

00:21:05.299 --> 00:21:08.920
things go down, there are people show up. You

00:21:08.920 --> 00:21:10.700
know, we can talk about the autoclaves where

00:21:10.700 --> 00:21:12.660
you sterilize all of your equipment. Those things

00:21:12.660 --> 00:21:15.700
have to be up 100 % of the time to get for us

00:21:15.700 --> 00:21:17.579
to get to the finish line or else everything

00:21:17.579 --> 00:21:21.019
slows down and you start to find empty operating

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rooms that are clean and ready for the next patient.

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Kim will tell you, we have to turn these over

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fast. When there's an empty room for 10 or 15

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minutes, we all start worrying about the volume.

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Somebody's going to miss out on surgery because

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an autoclave may have gone down. But they know

00:21:38.619 --> 00:21:40.859
we're coming. They have extra hands on deck.

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We bring everything we possibly can. Fuses. duct

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tape, you know, everything to try to keep going.

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And the experience has helped because we've been

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there. Your motto when you go there has to be,

00:21:54.319 --> 00:21:56.960
you got to work what you got. And I think that's

00:21:56.960 --> 00:21:58.720
one of the things we like is overachievers and

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we love taking the challenge. And if we don't

00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:02.460
have A, all right, we're going to switch to B.

00:22:02.990 --> 00:22:05.210
So out of all the inventory stuff, we lost the

00:22:05.210 --> 00:22:08.970
hand sanitizer this year. That's it, because

00:22:08.970 --> 00:22:10.569
you only didn't make it on the trip with the

00:22:10.569 --> 00:22:12.609
sanitizer. Well, I guess, I mean, maybe you did

00:22:12.609 --> 00:22:15.450
already answer. My next question was, you know,

00:22:15.950 --> 00:22:18.369
I think, you know, other than what you're actually

00:22:18.369 --> 00:22:21.009
doing, I think some of the most impressive parts

00:22:21.009 --> 00:22:24.009
of your mission is the logistics and the planning

00:22:24.009 --> 00:22:26.950
and everything. I'm assuming you guys have dealt

00:22:26.950 --> 00:22:30.950
with delayed cargo or transportation problems.

00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:37.539
This is not like, oh darn, our shampoo has not

00:22:37.539 --> 00:22:40.779
arrived. We're talking about things that are

00:22:40.779 --> 00:22:43.559
helping to better people's lives. Do you have

00:22:43.559 --> 00:22:45.200
an experience where that happened and how do

00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:47.839
you guys deal with that in the moment? We have

00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:51.059
multiple experiences. So we don't mind the delay

00:22:51.059 --> 00:22:52.819
because we like to challenge and figure it out.

00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:54.960
The problem is it costs surgeries and then we

00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:57.400
can help less people. So we've had years where

00:22:57.400 --> 00:22:59.819
we've had to cut the surgery schedule short because

00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:04.119
We've had delays based on, you know, delays in

00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:05.859
cargo shipping and those kind of things, so.

00:23:06.339 --> 00:23:08.980
You know, ironically, one year, you know, it's

00:23:08.980 --> 00:23:12.039
usually as the foster recipients end with their

00:23:12.039 --> 00:23:14.480
government in terms of, you know, delays or paperwork

00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:16.839
issues or things that delay. But one year was

00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:22.819
a 2019 where our cargo got stuck in the U .S.

00:23:23.059 --> 00:23:25.259
port and they wouldn't release it to go. You

00:23:25.259 --> 00:23:27.299
don't expect that to happen on the U .S. side.

00:23:27.339 --> 00:23:33.289
Right, right. Yeah. It was horrible. Again, we

00:23:33.289 --> 00:23:36.210
work with a professional logistics group here.

00:23:36.369 --> 00:23:39.150
We always meet our deadline for when the truck

00:23:39.150 --> 00:23:42.150
needs to be at the port to get the container

00:23:42.150 --> 00:23:44.710
on the ship. But US Customs, they're doing what

00:23:44.710 --> 00:23:48.069
they need to do. They flagged our container.

00:23:49.109 --> 00:23:52.390
God knows where it went. And they sat on it.

00:23:52.549 --> 00:23:56.809
And day by day, we missed the first ship. We

00:23:56.809 --> 00:23:59.670
missed the next ship another week later. We missed

00:23:59.670 --> 00:24:05.369
the third ship, all because the US Customs just

00:24:05.369 --> 00:24:06.789
parked our container somewhere. I still don't

00:24:06.789 --> 00:24:10.950
know why. Yeah. It cost us an extra $40 ,000

00:24:10.950 --> 00:24:14.769
that year to unload everything and send it by

00:24:14.769 --> 00:24:18.150
air. We had to fly everything there. Thank goodness

00:24:18.150 --> 00:24:21.829
for my logistics partner. But you can't just

00:24:21.829 --> 00:24:25.009
cancel the trip. There's 45 of us that have planned

00:24:25.230 --> 00:24:28.410
our personal vacation time, non -refundable,

00:24:28.490 --> 00:24:32.430
very expensive tickets, flights. Hotels are booked

00:24:32.430 --> 00:24:36.650
over there. Dinners are booked over there. Patients

00:24:36.650 --> 00:24:41.029
are queued up to come. Yeah, so they can turn

00:24:41.029 --> 00:24:44.529
it into a nightmare. We have a partner on the

00:24:44.529 --> 00:24:48.089
Ghanaian side now who understands cargo logistics.

00:24:48.170 --> 00:24:51.349
It's a profession. So he donates his time. He

00:24:51.349 --> 00:24:55.000
donates money, too, to pay taxes, that. were

00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:57.200
supposedly, you know, we were supposed to have

00:24:57.200 --> 00:24:59.819
exempt. Right. And he does everything he can.

00:24:59.900 --> 00:25:02.579
This trip we were honestly in the car driving

00:25:02.579 --> 00:25:05.380
to JFK and I finally got the picture with the

00:25:05.380 --> 00:25:07.460
cargo container on the truck heading to the hospital.

00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:09.519
It was that day we were getting on the plane.

00:25:09.859 --> 00:25:13.920
So it's exciting. So obviously you guys are employed

00:25:13.920 --> 00:25:16.480
by Syracuse Orthopedic Specialists and Operation

00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:20.339
Walk is kind of its own thing under that umbrella.

00:25:20.750 --> 00:25:25.849
How much is SOS involved in all of this? Is this

00:25:25.849 --> 00:25:29.910
kind of like a, hey, we're gonna handle the operation

00:25:29.910 --> 00:25:32.769
wall thing, or we've got it on our own, or are

00:25:32.769 --> 00:25:35.109
they involved in any sort of aspect of that?

00:25:35.390 --> 00:25:39.789
Yeah, SOS, the board of directors, the position

00:25:39.789 --> 00:25:42.390
shareholders for the company are... Many of them

00:25:42.390 --> 00:25:44.730
are members of our Operation Walk Team and come

00:25:44.730 --> 00:25:47.490
with us, but they're also very supportive of

00:25:47.490 --> 00:25:50.150
the mission organization. They assist us with

00:25:50.150 --> 00:25:53.789
fundraising. They assist us with logistics. You

00:25:53.789 --> 00:25:56.910
know, they let us use the physical plan to do

00:25:56.910 --> 00:25:59.910
storage of some things. There's many volunteers

00:25:59.910 --> 00:26:02.769
within the SOS walls that don't travel with the

00:26:02.769 --> 00:26:05.630
team necessarily, but there's internal SOS volunteers.

00:26:05.730 --> 00:26:07.970
They're helping with everything from fundraising

00:26:07.970 --> 00:26:11.410
to supply acquisition to... the reams of paperwork

00:26:11.410 --> 00:26:13.930
and applications and things that have to happen.

00:26:15.029 --> 00:26:17.670
Social media, we have, you know, SOS volunteers

00:26:17.670 --> 00:26:21.650
that help with that. So SOS is extremely supportive

00:26:21.650 --> 00:26:25.230
of our mission Walk New York and all of our mission

00:26:25.230 --> 00:26:28.029
trips that we take, both from a, you know, a

00:26:28.029 --> 00:26:30.789
human support. factor as well as a financial

00:26:30.789 --> 00:26:33.150
support fundraising factor. That's wonderful.

00:26:33.630 --> 00:26:36.170
Every year we get a little less SOS because people

00:26:36.170 --> 00:26:38.769
start moving and we have people now from Chicago,

00:26:38.950 --> 00:26:43.690
Boston, Tampa, North Carolina, Virginia, Virginia,

00:26:44.150 --> 00:26:48.630
LA, Saratoga. We actually changed our name. We

00:26:48.630 --> 00:26:51.630
were incorporated as Operation Walk Syracuse

00:26:51.630 --> 00:26:54.230
and then we have a large number of volunteers

00:26:54.230 --> 00:26:56.950
that come from a partner orthopedic practice.

00:26:58.279 --> 00:27:01.380
which is home based in Albany and Saratoga area.

00:27:01.539 --> 00:27:04.740
We have a lot of physician, anesthesia, staff

00:27:04.740 --> 00:27:06.900
volunteers. So that's when, you know, a few years

00:27:06.900 --> 00:27:09.660
ago we changed the name to Operation Walk New

00:27:09.660 --> 00:27:11.859
York to better reflect our membership. I love

00:27:11.859 --> 00:27:14.819
that. How often are you guys doing these missions?

00:27:14.980 --> 00:27:16.759
Is this a once a year thing or every couple of

00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:19.700
years? It's supposed to be every year. Okay.

00:27:20.470 --> 00:27:22.910
We've gone every year for many years, but then

00:27:22.910 --> 00:27:24.369
when the bank account doesn't get to the right

00:27:24.369 --> 00:27:26.890
amount, we have to delay. Yeah. And a couple

00:27:26.890 --> 00:27:28.589
more questions. I know you guys are very busy

00:27:28.589 --> 00:27:30.769
and I want to respect that. But this is this

00:27:30.769 --> 00:27:37.630
is so interesting. So you hear about major surgeries,

00:27:37.849 --> 00:27:39.829
like heart surgeries, brain surgeries, and we

00:27:39.829 --> 00:27:42.509
all think, oh, my gosh, this is this is so life

00:27:42.509 --> 00:27:45.269
changing for these patients. But we all understand

00:27:45.269 --> 00:27:48.039
always that mobility and independence is. it's

00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:51.119
just as important. It's a quality of life. And

00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:53.539
you kind of, from my perspective, you don't appreciate

00:27:53.539 --> 00:27:55.319
it until something's wrong, right? Like the first

00:27:55.319 --> 00:27:58.019
time I got a back injury and I, I mean, I was

00:27:58.019 --> 00:28:00.220
in pain just laying there, you know, you start

00:28:00.220 --> 00:28:04.019
appreciating things like that. What part does

00:28:04.019 --> 00:28:06.819
joint replacement play in restoring quality of

00:28:06.819 --> 00:28:09.440
life, especially like when patients are younger?

00:28:10.990 --> 00:28:14.049
Well, in Ghana, it's much different than the

00:28:14.049 --> 00:28:17.069
States. The States here is often just pain function

00:28:17.069 --> 00:28:19.250
related to, you know, more recreational activities.

00:28:19.750 --> 00:28:22.789
In Ghana, we're talking about life or death and

00:28:22.789 --> 00:28:26.309
the ability to contribute to their family, contribute

00:28:26.309 --> 00:28:29.769
to their... you know, town and community, you

00:28:29.769 --> 00:28:32.670
know, they can't work if they, these hips and

00:28:32.670 --> 00:28:34.609
some of the knees and the trauma that we see

00:28:34.609 --> 00:28:37.230
are so profound that they, again, can't sit.

00:28:37.470 --> 00:28:40.029
They can't use a normal, a normal bathroom setup.

00:28:40.369 --> 00:28:43.930
They can't, you know, walk without an assistive

00:28:43.930 --> 00:28:46.390
device. We see a lot of leg length discrepancies

00:28:46.390 --> 00:28:48.410
that are really, really, really severe, an inch

00:28:48.410 --> 00:28:51.890
or two. So they have, you know, severe, you know,

00:28:51.890 --> 00:28:55.750
gave abnormality. So there it... It's not even

00:28:55.750 --> 00:28:58.750
about function, it's about living and surviving

00:28:58.750 --> 00:29:03.869
to some degree. We're repeat team members, right?

00:29:03.930 --> 00:29:07.269
Amelia, this is her first year here, so I'd love

00:29:07.269 --> 00:29:10.160
to hear you just talk about... You know, the

00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:12.319
patients, they were, what did you experience?

00:29:12.500 --> 00:29:15.160
What did you see in the theater and feel? Because

00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:17.940
it's highly emotional. On the floor, it was definitely

00:29:17.940 --> 00:29:20.400
emotional. There was actually a woman that we

00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:22.619
had cared for who was homebound for many years.

00:29:22.940 --> 00:29:24.400
And she used to be in nursing school, and she

00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:26.240
had to jump out because she was unable to walk

00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:28.240
from class to class and to actually care for

00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:31.039
patients. She had received a joint art placement

00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:33.519
in a crowd, which was in Ghana. And it was very

00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:35.599
expensive. She actually had to sell her family

00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:38.009
land to get the other hip replacement. And so

00:29:38.009 --> 00:29:39.769
it was amazing to hear that she was able to come

00:29:39.769 --> 00:29:42.089
in, follow the Facebook she found us on there,

00:29:42.349 --> 00:29:43.910
and get the other hybrid plays, and she was so

00:29:43.910 --> 00:29:45.950
excited to go back. And just a little stuff like

00:29:45.950 --> 00:29:47.809
she was like, I love to dance, I used to dance,

00:29:47.930 --> 00:29:50.329
and I didn't get to any more at all. Yeah. And

00:29:50.329 --> 00:29:54.929
so I imagine you must come back sometimes. with

00:29:54.929 --> 00:29:57.589
friendships. I mean, do you stay in touch with

00:29:57.589 --> 00:29:59.930
some of the patients after? I did follow some

00:29:59.930 --> 00:30:01.750
patients on Facebook, and they're all excited,

00:30:02.269 --> 00:30:03.930
and they also like to hear about the US, and

00:30:03.930 --> 00:30:05.369
we're just talking about Prince Donald, like

00:30:05.369 --> 00:30:07.450
McDonald's, stuff like that, that they're super

00:30:07.450 --> 00:30:09.349
interested in. All the things we take for granted.

00:30:09.670 --> 00:30:11.410
We've been there, what, six trips, you said?

00:30:11.630 --> 00:30:13.569
And I think every time we have people returning

00:30:13.569 --> 00:30:16.589
who've seen us years before, and I think this

00:30:16.589 --> 00:30:18.490
year we had somebody come that's been there every

00:30:18.490 --> 00:30:20.420
year. Just to say thank you. Just to say thank

00:30:20.420 --> 00:30:24.019
you. And he's... And when we say come to see

00:30:24.019 --> 00:30:26.640
us, it's a 16 -hour bus ride. Yeah. It's not,

00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:28.960
you know, getting in your car and driving down

00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:31.339
the street. So that's a really rewarding stuff

00:30:31.339 --> 00:30:33.839
thing for us to see that and to see these people

00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:35.799
year after year that they come back and say,

00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:38.519
hey, thank you, and you're doing great work.

00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:41.400
You know, we see, especially working in social

00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:44.940
media, we see a lot of people out there... We

00:30:44.940 --> 00:30:47.440
call keyboard warriors that think they're changing

00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:49.440
the world by making some posts on Facebook and

00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:51.900
what you guys are doing You really are changing

00:30:51.900 --> 00:30:54.700
the world I mean you you are what we talk about

00:30:54.700 --> 00:30:56.539
when we say how can we make a difference in the

00:30:56.539 --> 00:30:58.460
world? You guys are doing that and I'm honored

00:30:58.460 --> 00:31:02.059
to be here Talking about it as far as the training

00:31:02.059 --> 00:31:04.299
you were talking earlier about One of the main

00:31:04.299 --> 00:31:07.079
reasons you do go over to Ghana is not just for

00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:09.460
lack of funding or resources, it's the training.

00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:11.859
A lot of the doctors there don't have the skill

00:31:11.859 --> 00:31:13.900
to do these kind of surgeries. So while you're

00:31:13.900 --> 00:31:16.319
over there doing these, is there an educational

00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:20.460
aspect too? Are you also kind of teaching their

00:31:20.460 --> 00:31:27.259
surgeons what to do? We do, but for the most

00:31:27.259 --> 00:31:30.700
part... is what they deal with at the orthopedic

00:31:30.700 --> 00:31:33.640
hospital there. I mean, we could teach them to

00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:38.000
do joint replacement. We could, you know, accentuate

00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:40.000
their skill set with that, but they don't have

00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:42.420
access to the implants and what's needed to do

00:31:42.420 --> 00:31:45.200
that. So it would almost be like a teaser to

00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:46.440
say, let me show you how to do it. Let me show

00:31:46.440 --> 00:31:49.359
you how, but you can't do it. Exactly. So really

00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:52.059
we do a lot of education and engagement with

00:31:52.059 --> 00:31:53.799
the medical staff and with the hospital staff,

00:31:53.900 --> 00:31:56.140
but it's more about... How do you prep the patients?

00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:57.960
How do you find the right patients that are going

00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:00.640
to get the most benefit from what we do? And

00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:04.000
then how do we work in tandem after we leave

00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:06.680
for them? Because they're the eyes, ears, and

00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:09.460
hands on the ground after we leave. So we're

00:32:09.460 --> 00:32:11.859
in constant communication with them in terms

00:32:11.859 --> 00:32:14.140
of any patient issues that arise, any problems.

00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:17.920
The recovery process. Yeah. So they are completely

00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:20.279
responsible for the management of patients after

00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:25.490
we leave. Because of how important it is, the

00:32:25.490 --> 00:32:30.269
demand is, with what you do, do you find that

00:32:30.269 --> 00:32:32.730
when they know you're coming over, how do you

00:32:32.730 --> 00:32:34.890
manage the patient list? Because I would assume

00:32:34.890 --> 00:32:37.410
everybody's lining up, right? This is kind of,

00:32:37.490 --> 00:32:39.529
you're coming for a short period of time. We've

00:32:39.529 --> 00:32:42.150
got to fit it in. Kim gets lots of emails. I

00:32:42.150 --> 00:32:45.950
would imagine. Yeah, so the hospital administrator

00:32:45.950 --> 00:32:48.690
at St. Joseph's Hospital in Kofaritawa is where

00:32:48.690 --> 00:32:53.059
we go. Kofaritawa... We worked with him for most

00:32:53.059 --> 00:32:55.220
of the years, someone preceded him, but he's

00:32:55.220 --> 00:32:57.819
been with us for many, many years. He and his

00:32:57.819 --> 00:33:00.799
medical team accrue the patients is what we call

00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:04.019
it. So as patients reach out through email, through

00:33:04.019 --> 00:33:06.059
social media, or present to their hospital saying,

00:33:06.740 --> 00:33:08.740
hey, would I be considered for a hip or a knee

00:33:08.740 --> 00:33:11.240
replacement, they manage that list and they come

00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:14.900
up with a potential patient list. Sometimes we

00:33:14.900 --> 00:33:17.359
travel there to pick up the x -rays because they

00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:20.319
had a really... had an electronic pack system,

00:33:20.900 --> 00:33:24.059
or the ability to transmit images electronically,

00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:26.420
which I think that's changing. But right now,

00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:29.059
they accrue the patients. We develop a patient

00:33:29.059 --> 00:33:32.279
list, which we get far in advance, even though

00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:34.099
more and more patients are added to the list,

00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:36.680
because it's hard to say no to anybody to at

00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:40.480
least be screened. But we had, I think, 380 patients

00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:44.019
on the list to be screened, reviewed, or whatever

00:33:44.019 --> 00:33:46.789
for this trim. We do a lot of pre -work here,

00:33:46.930 --> 00:33:49.690
like looking at the x -rays, looking at the patient's

00:33:49.690 --> 00:33:52.309
medical condition, looking at things like, first

00:33:52.309 --> 00:33:54.710
of all, do they even need surgery? Some people

00:33:54.710 --> 00:33:57.529
have a lot of pain that isn't, they think it's

00:33:57.529 --> 00:33:59.490
their hip or knee and it's not. It's their back

00:33:59.490 --> 00:34:01.849
or it's some other issue, in which case a hip

00:34:01.849 --> 00:34:03.710
or knee replacement is not going to help them.

00:34:03.950 --> 00:34:07.250
We also look to see what are their other medical

00:34:07.250 --> 00:34:09.449
conditions they have, because certainly the goal

00:34:09.449 --> 00:34:13.829
is to do a procedure, make them better. not cause

00:34:13.829 --> 00:34:16.050
any kind of complications because they're so

00:34:16.050 --> 00:34:18.510
medically unstable that something could happen

00:34:18.510 --> 00:34:20.210
during the surgery, like someone who's had a

00:34:20.210 --> 00:34:23.269
fresh heart attack or someone who has other major

00:34:23.269 --> 00:34:26.250
issues. So we try to have good, robust medical

00:34:26.250 --> 00:34:30.769
data about them. And then we also look at, you

00:34:30.769 --> 00:34:33.309
know, who are the candidates that are going to

00:34:33.309 --> 00:34:37.650
have the best recovery trajectory as well as

00:34:37.650 --> 00:34:41.849
can get back to life and society in Ghana. And

00:34:41.849 --> 00:34:44.110
so as we go through that pre -screening process,

00:34:44.329 --> 00:34:46.090
and then when we're there, screening clinic is

00:34:46.090 --> 00:34:49.349
just a crazy place, and people show up beyond

00:34:49.349 --> 00:34:51.929
the number of people we said we would identify.

00:34:52.090 --> 00:34:53.550
And that's probably the toughest part, right?

00:34:53.829 --> 00:34:56.190
You know, Amelia and Vinnie were there in screening

00:34:56.190 --> 00:34:58.610
clinic, and there's a lot of people that get

00:34:58.610 --> 00:35:02.010
nos. So, you know, talk about that. Yeah, it's

00:35:02.010 --> 00:35:04.590
definitely tough to sit there and just have to

00:35:04.590 --> 00:35:06.710
facilitate that, like, you know, I'm really sorry,

00:35:06.789 --> 00:35:10.329
you know. Yeah, there's probably, you know, in

00:35:10.329 --> 00:35:12.190
our screening clinic, we get there and it's kind

00:35:12.190 --> 00:35:14.110
of a big kind of warehouse set up with treatment

00:35:14.110 --> 00:35:16.369
rooms on the outside of it. And there's three,

00:35:16.489 --> 00:35:18.789
four hundred people milling around, you know,

00:35:18.949 --> 00:35:21.690
families, people on our list, people not on our

00:35:21.690 --> 00:35:23.650
list. They'll kind of walk up to us with their

00:35:23.650 --> 00:35:26.130
x -rays and say, can you look at these? Kim has

00:35:26.130 --> 00:35:29.730
never said no once in her life on any of those.

00:35:29.849 --> 00:35:33.050
We'd sit in there. Yes. So we, you know, one

00:35:33.050 --> 00:35:34.889
of the one of the great things about being there

00:35:34.889 --> 00:35:38.960
and not having to kind of live under the regulatory

00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:41.500
environment of the the states is we can add on

00:35:41.500 --> 00:35:43.780
people we can do things differently we can we

00:35:43.780 --> 00:35:45.980
can know all right we have an extra case open

00:35:45.980 --> 00:35:48.179
for for Wednesday we had somebody we can get

00:35:48.179 --> 00:35:50.760
them going right away so you know but there's

00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:52.539
a lot of benefits to that there too that we can

00:35:52.539 --> 00:35:56.440
just I focus 100 % on patient care which is really

00:35:56.440 --> 00:35:58.460
what we have to do that is incredibly selfless

00:35:58.460 --> 00:36:00.460
and amazing I was told I need to wrap it up but

00:36:00.460 --> 00:36:02.260
I have to ask this last question because it is

00:36:02.260 --> 00:36:06.429
important the reflection of cultural change cultural

00:36:06.429 --> 00:36:09.530
exchange and gratitude. You guys are coming back

00:36:09.530 --> 00:36:12.269
from Ghana, and you're working on these patients,

00:36:12.309 --> 00:36:13.789
and you're working in a different healthcare

00:36:13.789 --> 00:36:17.150
system. Your mindset must change, or at least

00:36:17.150 --> 00:36:18.730
your point of view. Can you talk a little bit

00:36:18.730 --> 00:36:20.269
about how you feel when you come back, maybe

00:36:20.269 --> 00:36:22.690
the first time, and what you learned? Again,

00:36:23.110 --> 00:36:25.289
so actually when I came back... It was just amazing

00:36:25.289 --> 00:36:27.989
to walk in and realize how grateful I was for

00:36:27.989 --> 00:36:30.469
all the supplies that I had, and for just everything

00:36:30.469 --> 00:36:32.929
that I had ready for me, even just our electronic

00:36:32.929 --> 00:36:36.289
healthcare system, everything, computer, everything.

00:36:37.489 --> 00:36:42.389
It's amazing. That just reminds me of a picture

00:36:42.389 --> 00:36:45.989
of Nick. Nick was another SOS medical assistant

00:36:45.989 --> 00:36:48.210
that went with us, and a picture that really

00:36:48.210 --> 00:36:50.489
resonates. I think it resonates with everyone.

00:36:50.969 --> 00:36:53.289
So many things you take for granted, right? You

00:36:53.289 --> 00:36:58.150
know, there is, here, we do cooling on patients

00:36:58.150 --> 00:37:00.730
post -op. That's a pain reduction, swelling reduction.

00:37:01.429 --> 00:37:04.429
And there, pouring in valves, getting blocks

00:37:04.429 --> 00:37:09.170
of ice, and then, you know, in the bag, he's

00:37:09.170 --> 00:37:12.309
got a hammer and he has to chop the ice to get

00:37:12.309 --> 00:37:15.590
them in little baggies to use. He's dealing an

00:37:15.590 --> 00:37:18.230
ice machine with the wiring to make the ice.

00:37:18.809 --> 00:37:21.190
These are the things that every American needs

00:37:21.190 --> 00:37:23.550
to hear and see, because I think we all need

00:37:23.550 --> 00:37:26.969
a moment of pause sometimes to say, we had a

00:37:26.969 --> 00:37:30.949
pretty good. Looking ahead, what are the hopes

00:37:30.949 --> 00:37:33.829
for your next missions, and how can people support

00:37:33.829 --> 00:37:38.730
Operation Walk New York? Well, we're hopeful

00:37:38.730 --> 00:37:41.730
that we can go back to Ghana again in the fall

00:37:41.730 --> 00:37:45.809
of 2026. But that heavily depends. I know we

00:37:45.809 --> 00:37:49.780
have a... very willing list of volunteers. They

00:37:49.780 --> 00:37:52.099
would pack up tomorrow and go if we could, but

00:37:52.099 --> 00:37:55.340
it always relies on funding and the ability to

00:37:55.340 --> 00:37:58.099
generate the money that we need to be able to

00:37:58.099 --> 00:38:03.179
fund a trip. So certainly any assistance with

00:38:03.179 --> 00:38:05.619
fundraising. No donation is too small. We have

00:38:05.619 --> 00:38:07.920
some grateful patients who might send in a $5

00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:11.159
donation. Well, a lot of $5 donations add up.

00:38:12.380 --> 00:38:17.199
So big or small, any way that individuals willing

00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:19.679
to give back or grateful patients can contribute,

00:38:20.019 --> 00:38:22.260
we very much welcome that. And we would go to

00:38:22.260 --> 00:38:27.980
OperationWalkNewYork .org. All right. Is it?

00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:31.480
It says OperationWalkNewYork .org. Okay, and

00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:33.940
that's what it is. Yes, and there is a donation

00:38:33.940 --> 00:38:35.960
link on there December 2nd, I believe, it's Giving

00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:38.920
Day. We'll be making a push for donations then.

00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:42.320
No one is too small, but we can use some really

00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:46.260
big ones too. We're healthcare people. We are

00:38:46.260 --> 00:38:49.119
really bad at asking for money. Because we like

00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:52.199
to give, we don't like to take. So we need some

00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:54.300
help on that side of things. Well, when people

00:38:54.300 --> 00:38:57.320
watch and listen to this interview, I think you

00:38:57.320 --> 00:38:59.000
won't have a hard time finding people that want

00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:01.579
to donate because your story is amazing. I'm

00:39:01.579 --> 00:39:02.960
honored that I got to sit here with you guys.

00:39:03.099 --> 00:39:04.840
You truly are making a difference in the world.

00:39:05.179 --> 00:39:10.059
You're incredibly selfless. So with that... I

00:39:10.059 --> 00:39:13.980
want to just give a proper outro here. Amelia

00:39:13.980 --> 00:39:16.760
Serio, Operation Walk year of medical assistant

00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:20.980
and medical assistant at SOS. Jim Murray, Operation

00:39:20.980 --> 00:39:22.840
Walk New York director and chief clinical officer

00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:26.420
at SOS. We've got Jim Colon, Operation Walk New

00:39:26.420 --> 00:39:29.639
York imaging and director of ancillary services

00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:33.099
at SOS. And next to me, of course, Vinny Marino.

00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:35.260
You are the physical therapist and physical therapy

00:39:35.260 --> 00:39:37.760
operations supervisor at SOS. Thank you guys

00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:42.119
so much for your time. And any last words? Yeah,

00:39:42.179 --> 00:39:44.519
come with us next time. Yeah, we need social

00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:46.920
media people. We actually do have a social media

00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:49.059
contingent on our team. You ask my team over

00:39:49.059 --> 00:39:52.719
there, I'm the last person. It will throw me

00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.239
out of the plane. Can you break ice? I can break

00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:59.579
ice. There you go. Can you post? That's all we

00:39:59.579 --> 00:40:02.679
need. Sign me up. What if we need to do surgery?

00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:04.880
No surgery. No surgery. You can watch, but you

00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:06.719
can't do it. That is another episode of Big News

00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:08.639
Show Friday. It's finally by Ed Dunlego again,

00:40:08.699 --> 00:40:12.940
EdDunlego .com. It's Cherokee Specialist Operation

00:40:12.940 --> 00:40:15.500
Walk New York. Amazing stuff. Amazing to be a

00:40:15.500 --> 00:40:19.219
part of. Welcome to Good News York. It is Mike

00:40:19.219 --> 00:40:21.639
Vrindisi with you, without Matt. He's really

00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:24.139
missing out because I am here. This is a very,

00:40:24.139 --> 00:40:27.449
very special interview. Executive Director of

00:40:27.449 --> 00:40:30.789
the Samaritan Center, Mary Beth Fry. Thank you

00:40:30.789 --> 00:40:33.550
for being here. You're amazing. I am not. Yes,

00:40:33.550 --> 00:40:39.690
you are. You know, coming here, we knew as a

00:40:39.690 --> 00:40:42.570
team where we were going. We were going to a

00:40:42.570 --> 00:40:45.650
place that would help underprivileged individuals

00:40:45.650 --> 00:40:49.150
with food and other things. But I'm learning

00:40:49.150 --> 00:40:52.630
so much more even when I walked in. You do much

00:40:52.630 --> 00:40:56.099
more than just feed the hungry. Tell us a little

00:40:56.099 --> 00:40:59.400
bit about yourself, your background and how the

00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:01.280
Samaritan Center came about and what it is you

00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:03.420
do. All right. So the Samaritan Center has been

00:41:03.420 --> 00:41:07.179
in this beautiful space for 10 years, but we've

00:41:07.179 --> 00:41:10.539
been around for over 44. We started as a brown

00:41:10.539 --> 00:41:13.260
bag lunch program in downtown Syracuse and then

00:41:13.260 --> 00:41:16.079
slowly built our capacity and our organization

00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:18.039
to be able to provide over one hundred and twenty

00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:20.340
thousand meals to folks struggling with hunger

00:41:20.340 --> 00:41:22.760
and poverty here in Syracuse and central New

00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:27.320
York. We do that with nine staff and 1 ,500 volunteers

00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:31.159
dedicated every month to making this place possible.

00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:34.099
We like to think of it as a community kitchen

00:41:34.099 --> 00:41:36.619
table, right? It's a place where if you think

00:41:36.619 --> 00:41:38.380
about your own kitchen table, it's where you

00:41:38.380 --> 00:41:41.599
come to take a breath, to share your struggles,

00:41:41.780 --> 00:41:44.340
to share your victories, to feel connected to

00:41:44.340 --> 00:41:46.900
something bigger, right? To be part of community.

00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:49.239
And that's what we try to create here. You know,

00:41:49.260 --> 00:41:53.699
when you hear about... food pantries and shelters.

00:41:54.139 --> 00:41:55.940
We all kind of have these preconceived notions

00:41:55.940 --> 00:41:59.079
about what it might look like. And I think it's

00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:01.519
important for everybody in this country and in

00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:03.599
the world to see what really goes on anyway.

00:42:04.179 --> 00:42:07.059
But when I walked in, I don't know what I was

00:42:07.059 --> 00:42:12.400
expecting, but it wasn't this. This is absolutely

00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.420
beautiful. And I feel like it's welcoming. You

00:42:15.420 --> 00:42:18.000
come in and you don't feel kind of like out of

00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:21.980
place. How does the the renovation of the church

00:42:21.980 --> 00:42:25.840
come about and and how long has it been as beautiful

00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:28.980
as it is? So this was actually the first cathedral

00:42:28.980 --> 00:42:31.239
of the Catholic Diocese of Syracuse So that's

00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:34.739
why it's so ornate and so beautiful We were fortunate

00:42:34.739 --> 00:42:36.559
enough to be able to purchase it outright ten

00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:40.360
years ago and did a capital campaign made, you

00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:43.539
know 1 .2 million dollars in renovations and

00:42:43.539 --> 00:42:45.699
Created this wonderful home for the folks that

00:42:45.699 --> 00:42:47.780
we serve and it does it feels it feels like a

00:42:47.780 --> 00:42:51.530
home now What I was pleasantly surprised to know

00:42:51.530 --> 00:42:54.429
is you're you're not just what I don't know if

00:42:54.429 --> 00:42:56.750
this is the proper term a soup kitchen of sorts

00:42:56.750 --> 00:42:59.630
You guys have a daily meal program. You've got

00:42:59.630 --> 00:43:02.010
case management and agency outreach. You've got

00:43:02.010 --> 00:43:04.269
basic needs distribution You have your my place

00:43:04.269 --> 00:43:06.630
program diaper distribution. I want to get into

00:43:06.630 --> 00:43:10.789
all of that But before we do how did you get

00:43:10.789 --> 00:43:14.269
involved with the Samaritan Center? So my background

00:43:14.269 --> 00:43:16.969
was in direct services within mental health went

00:43:16.969 --> 00:43:19.010
back to school to do some more administrative

00:43:19.010 --> 00:43:21.610
stuff. I worked at United Way for a long time

00:43:21.610 --> 00:43:24.349
doing granting and community investment, and

00:43:24.349 --> 00:43:26.329
that's where I became familiar with the Samaritan

00:43:26.329 --> 00:43:30.489
Center. For me personally, there was too much

00:43:30.489 --> 00:43:33.530
paperwork for me at United Way, and I came from

00:43:33.530 --> 00:43:35.909
a direct service place. So Samaritan Center is

00:43:35.909 --> 00:43:39.190
this beautiful mix for me of administration,

00:43:39.570 --> 00:43:43.469
program oversight, supervision, growth, and direct

00:43:43.469 --> 00:43:46.800
service. So every day I get to see The reason

00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:49.139
I do all the audits and budgets and all that

00:43:49.139 --> 00:43:51.920
boring stuff. Sure. Every day I see the impact

00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:54.179
of all that work and what we make possible here.

00:43:54.420 --> 00:43:58.079
It's amazing. The Daily Meal program. Let's start

00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:02.119
with that. Now, obviously, again, we knew coming

00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:04.500
here that that was kind of the main deal was

00:44:04.500 --> 00:44:09.119
to feed the the people that were were underprivileged.

00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:12.679
But this is a little different. This is three.

00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:15.369
It says three hundred and sixty five days. a

00:44:15.369 --> 00:44:18.389
year, no questions asked, you are serving food,

00:44:18.889 --> 00:44:21.690
nine staff, over 800 volunteers. Tell us a little

00:44:21.690 --> 00:44:24.730
bit about that. So I think what makes us different

00:44:24.730 --> 00:44:27.570
is that no questions asked philosophy, right?

00:44:27.570 --> 00:44:29.809
If you're hungry, you're welcome. And then we

00:44:29.809 --> 00:44:32.849
try to get to know people, right? As Mary Beth,

00:44:32.929 --> 00:44:36.210
as Amanda, it's easier, right, to ask difficult

00:44:36.210 --> 00:44:39.449
questions like, I've never been homeless before.

00:44:39.989 --> 00:44:42.889
What do I do? My son is schizophrenic and I don't

00:44:42.889 --> 00:44:45.469
know where to turn. My husband is beating me

00:44:45.469 --> 00:44:47.750
and I don't know what to do. You can ask those

00:44:47.750 --> 00:44:51.050
questions to Mary Beth more easily than you can

00:44:51.050 --> 00:44:52.889
to someone who's saying, what's your social security

00:44:52.889 --> 00:44:54.429
number? Where do you live? What's your income?

00:44:54.630 --> 00:44:57.369
Prove to me that you're hungry. Right. So this

00:44:57.369 --> 00:44:59.550
place is really about relationships and it's

00:44:59.550 --> 00:45:01.469
about community and it's about connecting on

00:45:01.469 --> 00:45:04.429
a basic human level so that we're all there together

00:45:04.429 --> 00:45:06.429
kind of walking through really difficult days

00:45:06.429 --> 00:45:08.269
and trying to support each other through that.

00:45:08.610 --> 00:45:13.510
Do you find yourself when during the daily meal

00:45:14.829 --> 00:45:18.230
Are we seeing you mingling, walking around, sitting

00:45:18.230 --> 00:45:21.909
with some of the people, or are you in the office?

00:45:22.250 --> 00:45:24.190
Are you back in the kitchen? What's it like for

00:45:24.190 --> 00:45:26.110
you during that time? My best days are when I'm

00:45:26.110 --> 00:45:28.010
out here during meal, right? Because that's where

00:45:28.010 --> 00:45:30.849
my joy is, right? That's what energizes me to

00:45:30.849 --> 00:45:34.530
do all the other stuff. So it's, yeah, best part

00:45:34.530 --> 00:45:36.329
of my day is when I get to talk with the folks

00:45:36.329 --> 00:45:39.789
that come here. Would you say a large percentage

00:45:39.789 --> 00:45:42.889
of the people that do come here are kind of...

00:45:42.570 --> 00:45:45.110
regulars, for lack of a better term, do you see

00:45:45.110 --> 00:45:48.289
a lot of repeat people that have been here a

00:45:48.289 --> 00:45:50.570
while? So what I would say is our population

00:45:50.570 --> 00:45:53.349
is really, if you look at law of thirds, right?

00:45:53.670 --> 00:45:55.909
The first third are folks that you might imagine

00:45:55.909 --> 00:45:57.969
when you think about a soup kitchen, right? There

00:45:57.969 --> 00:46:00.090
are folks you might see on the off ramps flying

00:46:00.090 --> 00:46:02.050
signs. There are folks that are in encampments

00:46:02.050 --> 00:46:04.309
under bridges. That's what people originally

00:46:04.309 --> 00:46:06.789
first think and imagine that's everyone that's

00:46:06.789 --> 00:46:09.579
here, right? Second, third are folks that are

00:46:09.579 --> 00:46:11.659
going through some sort of crisis, right? They

00:46:11.659 --> 00:46:14.320
may have had a car breakdown, and if they don't

00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:16.219
fix the car, they lose the job, then they lose

00:46:16.219 --> 00:46:18.579
the house. They may have a medical bill. They

00:46:18.579 --> 00:46:21.880
have to buy prescriptions. They may have a heating

00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:24.340
bill that gets extraordinarily high. They have

00:46:24.340 --> 00:46:27.179
to make these really difficult choices between

00:46:27.179 --> 00:46:30.800
food and heat, food and medicine. In that crisis

00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:33.940
period, they rely on us. So those folks we see

00:46:33.940 --> 00:46:36.019
for a very short period of time till they get

00:46:36.019 --> 00:46:39.139
through this crisis and they move on. The final

00:46:39.139 --> 00:46:42.059
third are folks that we see all the time. They're

00:46:42.059 --> 00:46:45.019
folks on fixed incomes whose resources are not

00:46:45.019 --> 00:46:48.000
going to grow, who in a competitive society,

00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:50.239
they have difficult time competing, right? They

00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:52.079
might be folks with disabilities. They might

00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:54.320
be folks with mental health issues. They might

00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:57.360
be vets with PTSD. They might be seniors on a

00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:00.139
fixed income. We become part of what makes their

00:47:00.139 --> 00:47:03.260
budget work. here is where they get their nutrition.

00:47:03.420 --> 00:47:05.199
And those folks we see over a very long period

00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:07.900
of time. I'm so glad you said that because, you

00:47:07.900 --> 00:47:10.139
know, especially with what's going on right now

00:47:10.139 --> 00:47:13.619
with the federal government and the SNAP benefits

00:47:13.619 --> 00:47:16.360
program, you know, I'm seeing on social media

00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:19.940
a lot, there really is a misconception about

00:47:19.940 --> 00:47:24.519
not only what it is that you do, but the people...

00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:27.380
that are in need. It's not just people who don't

00:47:27.380 --> 00:47:30.980
have shelter. There are people who are working

00:47:30.980 --> 00:47:34.099
40 hours a week and still can't afford, like

00:47:34.099 --> 00:47:35.900
you said, making those difficult decisions. They're

00:47:35.900 --> 00:47:38.079
living paycheck to paycheck. Those people are

00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:43.280
just as much in need or in need as well, just

00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:45.519
as much as the people that don't have shelter

00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:48.559
as well. And I think that's an important thing

00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:52.079
to highlight that this is to help everybody.

00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:55.440
Yeah, and I think there's systemic issues, right?

00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:59.260
I mean, there's minimum wage is not living wage,

00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:02.440
right? If you think about the cost to rent an

00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:05.320
apartment in the city of Syracuse, it's outrageous.

00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:08.599
People don't have those sorts of resources, so

00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:11.920
they're stretched to the very end. Utilities

00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:15.500
have taken major jumps every single year and

00:48:15.500 --> 00:48:17.639
are looking for another one to come in January.

00:48:18.039 --> 00:48:21.079
HEAP has closed down. HEAP, which is an emergency

00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:23.400
heating assistance program federally, has also

00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:25.659
shut down and not been funded. So people are

00:48:25.659 --> 00:48:27.940
very concerned and very worried about what this

00:48:27.940 --> 00:48:30.179
winter will mean for them. There are families

00:48:30.179 --> 00:48:32.659
that rely on these supplemental funds to be able

00:48:32.659 --> 00:48:35.980
to feed their kids. And we know that the trick

00:48:35.980 --> 00:48:39.059
to good development is solid nutrition. How do

00:48:39.059 --> 00:48:41.039
you focus in school as a kid if your stomach

00:48:41.039 --> 00:48:44.130
isn't full? How do you do anything? as an adult

00:48:44.130 --> 00:48:46.409
or as a child when you're you know you're absolutely

00:48:46.409 --> 00:48:48.530
right and and another thing that i've learned

00:48:48.530 --> 00:48:51.250
along the way is that people don't think outside

00:48:51.250 --> 00:48:55.369
of the box such as you know okay so some some

00:48:55.369 --> 00:48:59.670
food is provided for people in need but the the

00:48:59.670 --> 00:49:01.929
the healthy stuff that's out there the stuff

00:49:01.929 --> 00:49:04.070
the nutrition that you're talking about are sometimes

00:49:04.070 --> 00:49:10.210
more expensive and harder to access. And if you

00:49:10.210 --> 00:49:13.010
think about food deserts, it's a popular term,

00:49:13.050 --> 00:49:15.849
but basically it means access. Not having access

00:49:15.849 --> 00:49:18.230
to grocery stores, to places where you can find

00:49:18.230 --> 00:49:20.869
affordable food. We talk a lot about you can

00:49:20.869 --> 00:49:24.010
get lottery programs in every corner bodega,

00:49:24.070 --> 00:49:27.130
but you can't get ahead of broccoli. So where

00:49:27.130 --> 00:49:29.809
is it that people are supposed to find healthy

00:49:29.809 --> 00:49:33.860
food? They can't. And the cheap stuff... is poor

00:49:33.860 --> 00:49:36.340
nutrition, high density calories. Exactly what

00:49:36.340 --> 00:49:41.219
I meant. And, you know, it's so important. And

00:49:41.219 --> 00:49:43.639
with what is going on with the federal government,

00:49:43.659 --> 00:49:45.280
and this isn't political, this is just reality

00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:48.159
of what's going on. Can you talk about a little

00:49:48.159 --> 00:49:50.519
bit of the direct impact it's had on this American

00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:54.199
center and the people that come here? So we've

00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:56.960
seen an increase of probably 50 people a day

00:49:56.960 --> 00:50:00.730
that are new to this program. Typically, if you

00:50:00.730 --> 00:50:03.190
think about our cycle of service, right, in the

00:50:03.190 --> 00:50:04.750
beginning of the month, we have a little bit

00:50:04.750 --> 00:50:07.210
of a slowdown because people typically get their

00:50:07.210 --> 00:50:09.949
SNAP benefits. They get their resources. So it

00:50:09.949 --> 00:50:11.889
gets a little quieter. We have not seen that

00:50:11.889 --> 00:50:15.070
in November. So we're doing 600 meals a day between

00:50:15.070 --> 00:50:17.210
breakfast and lunch, which would have been more

00:50:17.210 --> 00:50:19.789
typically an end of the month experience. So

00:50:19.789 --> 00:50:22.230
people are more and more relying on pantries,

00:50:22.349 --> 00:50:25.170
our local nonprofit organizations and places

00:50:25.170 --> 00:50:27.309
like the Samaritan Center just to make sure they're

00:50:27.309 --> 00:50:30.639
able to eat. In addition to the Daily Meal program,

00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:32.880
I love getting into the rest of the things that

00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:36.059
you do because it's so unique and so important.

00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:39.039
You also do case management and agency outreach,

00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:43.260
which is, you know, helping with unemployment,

00:50:43.579 --> 00:50:46.179
underemployment, housing issues, benefits, legal

00:50:46.179 --> 00:50:48.440
services, health care, the things that... we

00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:50.480
take for granted. Talk a little bit about that

00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:53.719
program. So if you think about the reason someone

00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:55.780
might come to someplace like the Samaritan Center,

00:50:56.239 --> 00:50:59.380
the variables are really complex and really varied,

00:50:59.579 --> 00:51:01.559
right? They might be literacy issues, they might

00:51:01.559 --> 00:51:03.960
be mental health issues, might be substance misuse,

00:51:04.099 --> 00:51:06.440
they might be a legal issue. any of those things

00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:08.940
can impact somebody's resources and their ability

00:51:08.940 --> 00:51:12.420
to provide for themselves. What we do is have

00:51:12.420 --> 00:51:15.119
case managers on site to hook people into the

00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.699
resources that help address those problems with

00:51:17.699 --> 00:51:19.840
the idea that we can help move people towards

00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:22.380
self sufficiency. They don't rely on a place

00:51:22.380 --> 00:51:24.780
like this, but they become more focused on a

00:51:24.780 --> 00:51:26.659
more positive future and able to move towards

00:51:26.659 --> 00:51:29.320
their own goals. I love that because it's almost

00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:31.719
like. You know, you could look at the soup kitchen

00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:33.539
as, OK, we're addressing the immediate issue.

00:51:33.579 --> 00:51:35.260
That's the bandaid. You're hungry. We'll feed

00:51:35.260 --> 00:51:38.480
you. You're addressing the long term issue, which

00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:44.400
is. basic needs and the transition into a new

00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:47.699
place, which brings me to your My Place program,

00:51:48.159 --> 00:51:50.300
which is outstanding. Talk about that as well.

00:51:50.420 --> 00:51:53.159
So My Place came about because we had a Jesuit

00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:55.059
volunteer here. It was kind of like a Peace Corps

00:51:55.059 --> 00:51:57.659
volunteer for a year. And she was working with

00:51:57.659 --> 00:52:00.320
an individual who had just gotten a new apartment.

00:52:00.739 --> 00:52:03.460
And he came to us so proud. He had his brass

00:52:03.460 --> 00:52:05.780
key. And then he said, but I don't have anything

00:52:05.780 --> 00:52:09.110
in there. It was four empty walls and what should

00:52:09.110 --> 00:52:13.010
have been this beautiful moment of positive transition

00:52:13.010 --> 00:52:15.889
became very lonely for him because he was going

00:52:15.889 --> 00:52:17.769
to a place that he could lock the door but there

00:52:17.769 --> 00:52:20.150
was nothing there to make it a home. So this

00:52:20.150 --> 00:52:22.590
individual started our My Place program where

00:52:22.590 --> 00:52:25.489
we provide basic essentials. If you think about

00:52:25.489 --> 00:52:28.230
a kid going to college, it's sheets and blankets

00:52:28.230 --> 00:52:30.929
and dishes and silverware and a coffee pot and

00:52:30.929 --> 00:52:33.210
a little bit of art if we're lucky. And we'll

00:52:33.210 --> 00:52:35.489
put in resources like, here's the pantry that's

00:52:35.489 --> 00:52:37.650
near you. Here's the library that's in your neighborhood.

00:52:37.989 --> 00:52:40.090
So that people start to feel part of a larger

00:52:40.090 --> 00:52:42.869
community and they go into this space with a

00:52:42.869 --> 00:52:45.449
box of community that says we're with you and

00:52:45.449 --> 00:52:48.230
we support you. And this is wonderful. And you

00:52:48.230 --> 00:52:50.730
go forth. That is wildly impressive that you

00:52:50.730 --> 00:52:53.469
are able to do that. Again, thinking outside

00:52:53.469 --> 00:52:55.789
of the box. We're not going to find you a place.

00:52:56.369 --> 00:52:58.309
We're not only going to find you a place to live,

00:52:58.329 --> 00:52:59.949
we're going to we're going to help give you the

00:52:59.949 --> 00:53:03.630
basic things that you need to. to live. And start

00:53:03.630 --> 00:53:06.489
to make it a home. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody needs

00:53:06.489 --> 00:53:10.469
that. Everybody. And in addition, you're also

00:53:10.469 --> 00:53:13.030
the basic needs distribution. And this is kind

00:53:13.030 --> 00:53:15.170
of along the same lines. Again, thinking outside

00:53:15.170 --> 00:53:17.489
of the box. We're hungry. We're going to feed

00:53:17.489 --> 00:53:20.449
you. But hey, oh, I don't have deodorant. I don't

00:53:20.449 --> 00:53:24.780
have. Talk about that. Once a month you do the

00:53:24.780 --> 00:53:28.280
Basic Needs Closet. Twice a week it's the Basic

00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:31.179
Needs Closet. It's the idea of the dignity of

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self -care. If you can wash your hair, if you

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can take a shower, if you have the basic things

00:53:40.500 --> 00:53:43.480
to feel good about yourself, that changes your

00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:45.699
entire attitude and your ability to then go out

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into the world. We have a lot of folks that go

00:53:47.699 --> 00:53:50.349
to interviews that need a razor. and need a little

00:53:50.349 --> 00:53:53.289
shaving cream to clean up, right? That's pivotal

00:53:53.289 --> 00:53:56.989
to their success. It feels small, but it's really

00:53:56.989 --> 00:53:59.449
huge. And I think that's the message of this

00:53:59.449 --> 00:54:02.090
place, right? It doesn't take $8 million. It

00:54:02.090 --> 00:54:04.829
doesn't take 50 hours of volunteer work. Every

00:54:04.829 --> 00:54:07.190
little bit that people do, people collect socks,

00:54:07.409 --> 00:54:10.090
people collect toilet paper for us. One roll

00:54:10.090 --> 00:54:12.630
of toilet paper can change someone's day. Of

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course. Right? And it's those things that connecting

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on a human level and providing basic stuff changes

00:54:19.409 --> 00:54:22.230
the trajectory of the day. In addition to all

00:54:22.230 --> 00:54:23.989
these amazing programs, there's one more I want

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to talk about. It's your diaper distribution

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program. We all know that child care, child care

00:54:30.750 --> 00:54:33.289
in general is something that is hard to afford

00:54:33.289 --> 00:54:36.349
for anybody, but outside of child care. some

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of the basic needs like formula, diapers, things

00:54:38.309 --> 00:54:40.969
like that, and you guys are able to provide that

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as well. So once a month we partner with the

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CNY Diaper Bank to distribute diapers to over

00:54:46.690 --> 00:54:51.139
100 children. 95 -some families to be able to

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give them not a full month's supply, but a little

00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:56.599
helping hand in terms of the supplies that they

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need to care for their children. What we know

00:54:58.739 --> 00:55:01.019
is that's another difficult choice that families

00:55:01.019 --> 00:55:04.420
are making. There's research about families reusing

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diapers, trying to wash them out and reuse them.

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And the anxiety that creates, the health issues

00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:12.820
that creates is unreal. So this simple, simple

00:55:12.820 --> 00:55:16.360
resource allows moms to feel good about taking

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care of their kids. that makes kids feel wonderful,

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right? Because they're more comfortable. And

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then we help connect them into other supports

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they might need, like healthy families and imagination

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library and all these other things that help

00:55:27.539 --> 00:55:30.840
a family thrive. You know, I never understood

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how it became politicized that basic needs should

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not be a luxury. It should be a right, you know?

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And I've always believed that. Have you seen,

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have you experienced kind of any great redemption

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stories where you saw someone come here, kind

00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:50.780
of down on their luck, going through a lot and

00:55:50.780 --> 00:55:53.219
through your program, made it out to the other

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side and succeeding today. There's a lot of those

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folks. It's pretty impressive. We have a few

00:55:57.920 --> 00:56:00.340
people now that are working. We got them hooked

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in with a manufacturing training program through

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McNe. Right. So we know that kind of. in this

00:56:07.010 --> 00:56:09.929
community, many communities, manufacturing workers,

00:56:09.929 --> 00:56:12.610
right, are difficult to come by. So this is a

00:56:12.610 --> 00:56:14.710
particular program that was designed to reach

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out to typically untapped and underserved populations

00:56:18.050 --> 00:56:20.530
to help them access employment opportunities.

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So we've been able to get a number of our folks

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into this training program where they're enrolled

00:56:25.130 --> 00:56:28.070
at OCC. They're going to get clothing to be able

00:56:28.070 --> 00:56:29.869
to make that next transition. They're getting

00:56:29.869 --> 00:56:32.230
the training and then they're guaranteed interviews

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at the end of the program to try to hook them

00:56:35.110 --> 00:56:39.199
into program. So that then, right, ripples out.

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So you have income, then you get shelter, and

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then you have self -esteem, and then you're doing

00:56:43.500 --> 00:56:46.199
all the things that make us, you know, every

00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:49.079
day feel kind of normal, right? These are miracle

00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:51.300
things for our folks. I don't know if there's

00:56:51.300 --> 00:56:53.219
a God, but if there is, you're doing God's work,

00:56:53.380 --> 00:56:55.639
Mary Beth. It's absolutely amazing. Few more

00:56:55.639 --> 00:57:00.460
questions. Now, it's astounding how many volunteers

00:57:00.460 --> 00:57:04.340
you have a month. Over 800, if not more. Did

00:57:04.340 --> 00:57:07.800
you have you seen a change in? Did you have to

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come from a place of like? really trying to actively

00:57:10.190 --> 00:57:12.570
find volunteers and now it's to a point where

00:57:12.570 --> 00:57:16.449
you're just blessed with an influx or how does

00:57:16.449 --> 00:57:18.969
how's that been for you finding volunteers? We

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are always in need of volunteers so it takes

00:57:21.250 --> 00:57:24.590
between 15 and 20 volunteers every meal and then

00:57:24.590 --> 00:57:27.130
another 10 to 15 to help prep all those things

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so we are always looking for people that are

00:57:29.050 --> 00:57:31.610
interested spending a couple hours down here.

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I will say this community is incredibly generous

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and incredibly supportive and incredibly kind.

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So we've been fortunate, especially with the

00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:42.059
current environment, to have a lot of people

00:57:42.059 --> 00:57:44.219
reaching out to say, how can I help? Whether

00:57:44.219 --> 00:57:46.000
it's a food drive, whether it's volunteering,

00:57:46.139 --> 00:57:48.699
whether it's donating funds, this is an incredible

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community that rises when there's challenges

00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:55.739
like this. The way it should be. If somebody

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is in need of any of these things, how can they...

00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:03.699
reach out or what's the best course of action

00:58:03.699 --> 00:58:07.519
to come to the Samaritan Center and get the help

00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:10.019
they need? To get help, you just walk through

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the door when we're open. So we do breakfast

00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:14.760
Monday through Friday, 630 to 830, and then an

00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:17.280
afternoon meal seven days a week, one to 230.

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So you are absolutely welcome to come get a meal,

00:58:20.860 --> 00:58:22.639
share a kitchen table with us, and we'll get

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to know you and see how we can help. Outside

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of that, I guess I'd say that an amazing resource

00:58:27.360 --> 00:58:30.719
here in Onondaga County is 211. So folks are

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in need of really any resource that they need

00:58:32.840 --> 00:58:35.059
to help support them in their life journey. If

00:58:35.059 --> 00:58:37.340
you call 211, there's professionals ready to

00:58:37.340 --> 00:58:39.159
answer and try to connect people to what it is

00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:42.460
that they need. Amazing. And we know Thanksgiving's

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coming up. I'm sure that's kind of a big deal

00:58:47.780 --> 00:58:50.460
for this American Center and for the community.

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Do you do anything different on the holidays

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that you don't do 364 other days of the year?

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I think we cook a lot of food on Thanksgiving.

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I bet. Like everybody's holiday, right? Thanksgiving

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is a lot about food. So we start almost a week

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ahead roasting turkeys and getting everything

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ready and baking pies and all that kind of stuff.

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But I guess I would say not that a holiday is

00:59:13.210 --> 00:59:15.849
like every other day, but every day here is about

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love and acceptance and respect and just making

00:59:19.090 --> 00:59:22.349
sure people feel. Feel a presence here. I love

00:59:22.349 --> 00:59:25.769
that What do you hope for for the Samaritan Center

00:59:25.769 --> 00:59:28.829
in the next coming weeks months years? And do

00:59:28.829 --> 00:59:32.329
you have anything? kind of lined up along the

00:59:32.329 --> 00:59:34.800
way I think right now we're trying to manage

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the environment, right? Right now it's really

00:59:36.860 --> 00:59:39.760
shifting and changing underneath our feet. So

00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:41.239
we're trying to make sure that we're stocking

00:59:41.239 --> 00:59:43.659
in the food we need as numbers increase, that

00:59:43.659 --> 00:59:46.079
we're recruiting volunteers to help us support

00:59:46.079 --> 00:59:48.920
that increase in folks. Kind of longer term,

00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:52.139
we're looking at the possibility of mobile outreach

00:59:52.139 --> 00:59:54.579
for our meals. So are we able to take food into

00:59:54.579 --> 00:59:57.699
the communities that need that? This case management

00:59:57.699 --> 01:00:00.039
program, we just... launched a new expansion.

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So we got new offices, two new staff to help

01:00:02.579 --> 01:00:05.179
address all those other issues in a much more

01:00:05.179 --> 01:00:06.820
in -depth way. So there's a lot of things kind

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of piling on and rippling forward for this organization.

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But I think my goal is always to create this

01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:15.619
place of sanctuary, right? Which is kind of funny

01:00:15.619 --> 01:00:17.860
because you're in a sanctuary, right? But this

01:00:17.860 --> 01:00:20.539
is a place where people can take a breath and

01:00:20.539 --> 01:00:22.559
think about what their next step is and then

01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:25.340
have the support around it. So with all the great

01:00:25.340 --> 01:00:27.199
schemes we might have, right, we want to stay

01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:29.650
grounded. and what it is that our guests need

01:00:29.650 --> 01:00:31.710
and where we came from and how we connect as

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humans. Wonderful. Last question. I think there's

01:00:35.210 --> 01:00:37.369
a lot of we talked about this. There's a lot

01:00:37.369 --> 01:00:41.170
of misconceptions with what it is that you do.

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And, you know, there might be some people out

01:00:43.289 --> 01:00:46.369
there who are in need, whether it be big or small,

01:00:46.849 --> 01:00:49.289
that might be even hesitant to reach out because

01:00:49.289 --> 01:00:52.789
maybe they're nervous or maybe they feel like

01:00:52.789 --> 01:00:55.730
because, you know, there is that window of, well,

01:00:55.730 --> 01:00:58.579
I make too much to get help. but I'm not making

01:00:58.579 --> 01:01:01.280
enough to live. And so you live in that window.

01:01:01.780 --> 01:01:04.400
What are some misconceptions that that you might

01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:08.340
want to tell the people out there that that that

01:01:08.340 --> 01:01:11.980
you could shed light on? I think there's a couple

01:01:11.980 --> 01:01:15.599
of things, right? I think if we can set aside

01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:18.059
any judgment or preconceived ideas that we have

01:01:18.059 --> 01:01:21.480
and just see each other as humans, right? Walking

01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:24.179
a difficult world, right? The world can be really

01:01:24.179 --> 01:01:27.130
challenging and really hard for any of us. everybody

01:01:27.130 --> 01:01:30.730
deserves the opportunity to be seen, to be loved

01:01:30.730 --> 01:01:34.409
up, and to be heard and respected, right? So

01:01:34.409 --> 01:01:36.909
if we can just start from that place, a lot of

01:01:36.909 --> 01:01:40.989
the other stuff gets easier. But I think I would

01:01:40.989 --> 01:01:44.590
say come down here and see the folks that come

01:01:44.590 --> 01:01:46.889
here to serve, see the folks that come here to

01:01:46.889 --> 01:01:49.280
seek assistance. And I think... What we find

01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:51.840
is the line between needing help and being able

01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:55.159
to provide help is razor razor thin. And it can

01:01:55.159 --> 01:01:58.679
be absolutely any of us that the world takes

01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:00.900
us on a left turn and suddenly we're in a position

01:02:00.900 --> 01:02:03.360
of needing help. So if we're fortunate enough

01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:07.119
to be able to help, let's do that. I love it.

01:02:07.460 --> 01:02:11.380
Marybeth, where can people go to if they are

01:02:11.380 --> 01:02:14.960
in need to get a hold of you, to look things

01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:17.840
up? basically any of the plugs, and where can

01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:21.420
people go if they want to volunteer? Our website

01:02:21.420 --> 01:02:25.280
is samcenter .org. You can do a volunteer application

01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:27.440
right online and process it digitally. We'll

01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:29.079
get you on an app and it'll be super easy to

01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:32.099
get yourself scheduled. If you need help, again

01:02:32.099 --> 01:02:35.539
I'd say come down during meal time and access

01:02:35.539 --> 01:02:38.079
the services that have here. look for a staff

01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:40.179
person we'll be looking for you as a new face

01:02:40.179 --> 01:02:43.099
and try to make as comfortable as possible and

01:02:43.099 --> 01:02:45.780
see what we can do from there. And there's donate

01:02:45.780 --> 01:02:48.360
buttons and there's organizations throughout

01:02:48.360 --> 01:02:50.460
this community that are doing great work now

01:02:50.460 --> 01:02:52.920
and every day. What I would say is if you have

01:02:52.920 --> 01:02:54.840
an hour, if you have a dollar, if you have a

01:02:54.840 --> 01:02:57.099
pair of socks, there's somebody that can benefit

01:02:57.099 --> 01:02:59.500
from that. So that tiny little bit makes a huge

01:02:59.500 --> 01:03:02.960
difference. Marybeth Frye, you are amazing. You

01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:05.219
are the executive director of the Samaritan Center.

01:03:05.639 --> 01:03:07.679
I can't thank you enough for your time. I'm honored

01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:11.340
to be interviewing someone so selfless and who

01:03:11.340 --> 01:03:14.260
does so much for the community. Any last words

01:03:14.260 --> 01:03:17.860
or plugs or anything you want to say? Come down

01:03:17.860 --> 01:03:19.619
and experience the Samaritan Center. You'll enjoy

01:03:19.619 --> 01:03:23.139
it. There it is. Marybeth Frye, executive director,

01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:25.519
Samaritan Center. Thank you so much. Thank you.

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