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Hey folks, I'm Matt Major from Growth Mode Content.

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Welcome to Good News York. We're already shot

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out of a cannon. Shot right out. Joined, as always,

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by my spiky -haired friend here, Mike. Yeah,

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you know why I'm spiky -haired today? Because

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that's what you do every day? Close. Because

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you shamed me. On the one day I wore a hat, you're

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like, you look like a douchebag country singer.

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I mean, you weren't wrong. But now, like this

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morning, my son, I was running late and he goes...

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Dad, just don't do your hair, wear a hat. I like

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when you wear a hat. I go, well, I would, but

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apparently, I'm a douchebag when I, I didn't

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say that. I gotta ask you really quick. Did you

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ever in your rock and roll music career stop

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and go, you know what, if I just went country,

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I could make a lot more money? Yes, and I didn't

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because it's not me. That's fair. You know, I...

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You're from Herkimer, though. You could have

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pulled it off. I could have pulled it off, because

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people don't realize that there's parts of upstate

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New York that, I mean, it's like down south.

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Well, you got more hillbilliness. I mean, dude,

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listen. We used to load up the pallets on a Friday

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of my junior, senior year, and the boys would

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drive up to East Herkimer, drop them, and then

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we'd all meet in the middle of a field at 8 o

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'clock and light them up and listen to Garth

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Brooks. So I think I'm qualified. You are. But

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I just, I don't mind when artists go country,

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right? Sure. Like, sometimes it works. But for

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me, it wouldn't be authentic, and that's just

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not who I am. Like, for example, like when Darius

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Rucker went. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Aaron

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Lewis is the one that pissed me off. Because

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he would also do the twang. Like, if you're gonna

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do country, don't fake the twang, because I used

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to have a joke in my set where that's like me

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going up, like, getting up right here on the

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podcast and going, what's up, everybody? I'm

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from Liverpool, New York. You know what I mean?

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Like, it doesn't, it doesn't... They should totally

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do that. People that live in Liverpool should

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totally just rock that. Absolutely. Anyway, we

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have a genuine rock star in studio joining us

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today. You know this man, even if you don't know

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this man, because he's honestly got one of the

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best brands in town. You've seen Hummingbird

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heating and cooling, driving around. They're

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colorful signs, colorful things. And you might

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have even seen this gentleman in the news. We're

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going to get to all that in a second. But let's

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start out. My man, Chad, from Hummingbird. Welcome

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to Good New York, buddy. Chad, we love that you're

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here, man. We love that you're here. Listen,

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man, we can honestly talk to you for days and

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days and days. And we should. But let's start

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with the basics. How'd you get here and kind

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of what you got going on today? With the brand?

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Yeah. Yeah. You know, I started heating air conditioning

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probably 14 years ago or something. Had my own

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property and I was kind of like troubleshooting

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with YouTube. And a couple of my buddies were

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involved, and one thing led to another. I ended

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up calling one, and I had to replace the furnace.

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And I was telling him that I was going to go

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to Bose's to kind of get into it. And one thing

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led to another. He was like, come work for me,

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and rolled me into it. And I ended up coming

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up with a name, because we did a job one night.

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And pay to do the emergency install at night

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was like doubling up. Named my company 24 7 HVAC

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just so I can get nighttime work and I sure in

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the day and build my own You know brand at night

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and had that for probably 12 years. We did really

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well with it. It was nice You know, I was an

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owner occupier. So I work sales service sure

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and Then one thing led to a night another after

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you know having you know this business for 12

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years acquiring real estate and kids I'm just

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like I would try to talk people off the ledge

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at 11 o 'clock at night. I might not have parts

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for it. I'll be there first thing in the morning.

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Maybe we'd bring them a space heater. But I wasn't

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really being true to the 24 -7 name. And I didn't

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want to be known for it anymore. So I started

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researching marketing companies that do branding.

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And one thing led to another. And I met a girl,

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Amanda, who used a company, Kick Charge Creative.

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And I kind of was like inboxing her and getting

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some knowledge. And then I ended up, you know,

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talking with Dan Antonelli on the brand and kind

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of started researching him for like about a year

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or so and all the brands he had done in the home

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service space. And it really proved that he was

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probably the best in the country, maybe in the

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world. He's got brands in Australia and he's

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got brands all over the country. And we ended

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up deciding to pull the trigger with him. And

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that was the change of everything. It really

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skyrocketed for us pretty quickly. Yeah. Yeah.

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So that got me into, you know, the brand. So

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that's, that's when you became Hummingbird, right?

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And the rebrand included all these colors and

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things that I've mentioned. So what it was, was

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he gave us six options with names. So at first

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I wanted him to rebrand my name. I see. And then

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we kind of, kind of got talking. He's like, you

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want me to be transparent? And I love transparency.

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Like right to my face. He's like, it doesn't

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make sense. The brand's awful. The logo, you

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know, it's like. All right, I'm like, I did it

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myself, so I'm no designer. And one thing led

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to another, and we ended up going with the full

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package where they do complete overhaul of your

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business. And so they came up with six different

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names, kind of based it off stuff with me. And

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I always say HVAC saved my life. I was in definitely

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some darker times before it. And it kind of gave

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me... career, something to raise my family up,

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something to be proud of, something to give back

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to the community with because I was appreciative

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because, you know, people helped me. So I always

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wanted to give back. I've always been a pretty

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big, you know, person to give back. And, you

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know, so, you know, one thing led to another.

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We had all these different names and one was

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like right track, heating and air. And it was

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like, you know, it was a guy on a choo choo train

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tracks. I like that. It was like me hanging out.

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I'm like. He's like, you know, I want to tell

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the story of how I put you back on the right

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track. And then I started thinking, I don't know

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if I really want it to tell my whole personal

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story. And like, you know, yeah, I'm like, I'm

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sure it'll come out one way or the other eventually.

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But I'd rather, I'd rather, you know, go with

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that. So we kind of lived with each name. Me

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and my wife, I'd call her. She'd be like, right

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track heating and air. Oh, wow. Persever, like

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persevere, persevere. There was a bunch of different

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ones. And we didn't like hummingbird. And then

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one day we woke up. and it made sense. I'm like,

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she's a funny bird. I'm like, that's it. I'm

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like, doesn't make sense. It's going to stick

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in people's brain. Like it's, you know, it's

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an animal. Why an animal for a business? We just

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bought this awesome house that we really attributed

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to finding this house from her sister who passed

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away. She was kind of like our guardian angel

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type thing. And we got to this house and we were

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watching all these birds all of a sudden, like,

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you know, we're, we're young and hip nightclubs.

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And then now we get this new house and we're

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birdwatching. You know, life changed quickly.

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And so the The thing with her passing, it all

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really seemed synonymous. It was supposed to

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happen, and it was a blessing. You could have

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used all three business names, waited until you

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got a bad Yelp review, and then said, okay, ditch

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that name, until you got it down to the one.

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No, I love the name personally. That's great,

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man. I think that says a lot, too, just from

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a business perspective. The power of branding,

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right? Yes. Can you just kind of tell us... Obviously,

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it's made a big impact. How big of an impact

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has it made in the growth year of business versus

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maybe any of the other initiatives you've taken

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in the last couple of years? Yeah, so I mean,

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we were a million dollar company when we rebranded.

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And then, you know, within probably January,

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February, March is when I released it, so. Eight

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months nine months nine ten out of twelve we

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end up hitting two point seven million Wow, just

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with the rebrand for you. Um, and then this past

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year we hit three nine I think right now we're

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on pace for eight million this year Wow, like

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I'm my shark tank. Yeah, I'm writing it down

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Okay, what were your sales? The return has been

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insane, you know 100 % good for you two years.

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God bless you. That's incredible. Yeah. Yeah,

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it's Branding is everything. Absolutely. So let's

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let's talk about a little bit what this has allowed

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you to do, right? Because you talked a little

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bit about why you like to give back and things

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like that. And honestly, we've had you on deck

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to come in and just talk about your story, your

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business for a long time, but then suddenly this

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week you appeared in the news. And for a good

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deed. Yeah, and that's kind of how we got here

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for those of you watching or listening. This

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story came across my desk and I said, oh my God,

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we got to talk about this. And Matt and I started

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to talk about it on the air this week. And then

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Matt says, wait a minute, that's Chad. I know

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Chad from Profound, and Danny knew you. And so

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we said, forget talking about it. Let's get him

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on the air. And what you did, which I'll have

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you talk about, is absolutely what this show

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is about. Good News York, right? We want to feature

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awesome people, awesome things, awesome businesses,

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positive stuff. And I mean, you embody that.

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As you tell your story, if you're comfortable

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talking about some of the struggles that got

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you to where you are now, which also inspired

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you for this story and the help that you've given.

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Yeah, absolutely. If you're comfortable. Yeah,

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yeah, no, I wear it on my sleeve. I just, you

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know, I ended up was younger. I bought a nightclub

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in Armory Square, which was a Stylene. Stylene.

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Yeah, it was Red Door when I bought it. Oh, no

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way. OK, OK. We bought that. You know, I bought,

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you know, bought a nightclub when I was 23. Got

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out when I was 26 and, you know, Barely made

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it out alive. Yeah, man, you know and then like

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I ended up with an addiction for a while Probably

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till my daughter was born around She's 17. She's

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a car. She just took her driving test. We're

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waiting to see if she passed nice But you know

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17 years 16 years of you know, I've been sober

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good free and on so, you know I was 30 or something

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so eight seven eight years probably of addiction

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and you know pretty bad, you know, got into IV

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drug using in one time. So down a really hard

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spiral. Pretty much lost everything that I built

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up, had this nightclub and all this stuff and

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kind of lost it all. Happened to marry my wife

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on the way out was like the one thing that...

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Saved you. Yes, saved me. But, you know, that

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was then and a lot of people were in my corner

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helping me. You know, I had a really good support

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system. I had people that, you know, still believed

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in me a little bit. You know, I was thankful

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for that. And then, you know, I got into the

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HVAC, and now I was able to, like, go to your

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house. I had this gift almost, like, is how I

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looked at it. It was like, I didn't know how

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to fix your furnace. Go to, like, this little

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lady's house. She's cold, and I can, like, fix

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her furnace and leave, and she's warm. Yeah,

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man. It was the greatest feeling in the world

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to me. I'm like, this is insane that I have this

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gift now that I know how to fix this stuff. And

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it was like... For years, I didn't believe it.

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I didn't I'm so used to being in a different

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space. I'm like, it's incredible that I can do

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this I worked in by bartended for over ten years

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in the Ithaca area and I came out of it with

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a hell of a alcohol addiction and I've been sober

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from alcohol since October 1st 2020 I understand

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how it's so easy to get wrapped up in that lifestyle,

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and then you don't realize you got a problem

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until it's too late. And the fact that you were

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able to come out of it and to be where you are

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now is absolutely amazing, man. And I get what

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you mean, too. For those of you that have struggled

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with addiction, a lot of times, those people

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end up helping other people, doing things that

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help other people, because it helps you heal,

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too, right? Exactly what you said. I said that

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to the woman, Mary. You know, I'm like... I'm

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like, it's not really, I'm like, as selfish as

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it sounds, it's for you. I'm like, but it's really

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for me. Absolutely. Because it really makes me

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feel good knowing that I could do that for you.

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I'm like, so in some selfish kind of way, it's

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for me as well. Because you know what it was

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like when you needed help. Yeah. And you were

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like, your back was against the wall. So you

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want to make sure other people don't go through

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that. Dude, I get it. Yeah. Yeah. Just being

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able to make somebody smile and then know it.

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Like, you know, I was like, I was known for being

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like, Call Chad. Oh, you got an issue. Call Chad.

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He'll come over and check it out on Facebook.

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I promoted my business. In the beginning, when

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I was still learning service calls, I'd go to

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people's house and just do it for free if they

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were struggling, just because I wanted the free

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knowledge. So I would go there and be like, shit,

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I haven't came across this. If I couldn't figure

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it out, a lot of times I'd be like, hey, one

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of our senior guys is going to reach out to us

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a little beyond me. I'd leave and never call

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him, never chart. You know, I'd just call him.

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Let them know they had to call someone else.

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You know, HVAC people, by the way, you really

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do. If there is a God, you do God's work. Because

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I'm going to tell you something. They are a lifeline.

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I don't know if you've experienced this or you

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or anybody. I feel like any time my furnace is

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broke, it's the week that it's zero degrees in

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the winter. Or if my furnace is broke in the

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summer, it's the week that it's 90 degrees. Why

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does it always seem to line up? They're working

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hard. That's what I figured. It's working hard.

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But you guys come along, man. And we're like,

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I got kids. We're freezing. You guys come in.

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And it sounds like you're Johnny on the spot,

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man. You're right there. And we appreciate it.

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You definitely take that heat and that AC for

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granted until you don't have it. Right. Because

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all of a sudden, you're like, oh. I will go up,

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it's 50 degrees in my house, and you panic, and

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then you start feeling that cold. Then you start

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thinking about the pipes and all this stuff,

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and then the fear sets in. So there's definitely

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a pain point in heating and air. We started talking

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about the background a little bit, but would

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you mind telling us just a little bit more for

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the folks that didn't hear this story? Mary and

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the organization that you helped, what exactly

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did you do for them, I guess? Yeah, so it's a

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funny story the way it happened. I'm a huge slave

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to karma, I tell people. I'm like, I slave to

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karma. I feel like karma's given me the life

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that I've had just by always wanting to do good

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for people. And even through my bad times, I

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still always believed in helping and doing well.

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My own addiction never really hurt anybody outside

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of myself. I never really robbed and took advantage

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of people. So I was always kind of true and just

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was a slave to karma. I was a, you know, a bit

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of a conscious hippie type upbringing, you know.

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So I've always had that karma mentality like

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do good, it'll come back, do good, it'll come

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back. So I've always been like that. And it's

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a funny story is we give furnaces away all the

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time throughout the year. You know, we're always

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giving people a need. I do big donor, you know,

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just cash for holidays that people will send

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gift cards. I've always believed in you and the

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business for that. And I was at a It's a funny

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story. I was at, and this is the karma on the

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full circle that I'm talking about. I was at

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a doctor's appointment and we took out a really

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nice hot water tank, brand new, like, you know,

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a couple of years old, nothing wrong with it.

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And they were the tankless water heater. So we

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took out and I put a message on Facebook. I went

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to a shoulder doctor's. Sitting there and my

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cousin who works for me, she's my production

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manager, called me and she's like, yeah, a couple

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of people are calling here about the hot water

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tank. And I'm like, and then I'm getting inboxes

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and I'm on the phone with her and it's like,

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I'm looking at all these friends of mine that

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got money, real estate guys and this and that.

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You know, people that just shouldn't be asking

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me for a $500 free tank. It's for somebody. Sure.

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So I'm on the phone telling her, I go, listen,

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Ash, any of my rich friends come by that own

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real estate because they all want something for

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free because they got rentals and they all got

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money. I'm like, tell them it's not for them.

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It is literally for somebody in need, doesn't

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got a hot water tank. You know, we'll hook them

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up. I'm like, so tell them, Real estate friends

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stay away, you know, jokingly. And the woman

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next to me starts laughing. And she's like, oh

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my god, that was so funny. She was like, that

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was so nice of you. And I'm like, oh, how are

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you doing? I was like, I explained her the story.

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I'm my own hummingbird eating. She goes, oh my

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god, I've been trying to get a hold of you. I

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want to take a picture of your vehicle with my

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vehicle. I'm Beth Baldwin, and my mom's Carol

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Baldwin, and we have the cardinal car. Because

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my mom passed away and the cardinal and all the

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year, you know, the cardinal was a symbol. So

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I ended up telling her the story about Maria

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with our bird. And she's like, oh my God. And

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I started telling her that once my sister -in

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-law passed away, we found out she was donating

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all her time in my father's kitchen, helping

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feed homeless. And they're friends of ours, the

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Tuminos. So we do a lot of donating with them

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as well. And on her and my sister -in -law. And

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she's like, oh my god, she's like, I want to

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donate for the gala and your sister's memory,

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your sister -in -law's memory. So we're going

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to November. Wow. I'm going to put a message

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on profile. Yeah, absolutely. We're going to

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get a bunch of people to go and a bunch of tables.

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So she's like, I wasn't even sure how serious

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she was, you know? Sure. But we switched contacts.

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You know, I liked her on Facebook, whatnot. And

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then I gave her my wife's number. By the time

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I got back, My wife is in tears crying. They've

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been on the phone for like two hours. And I'm

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like, oh, wow, she really called. And I'm like,

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this is amazing. She's like an awesome person.

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I was super happy and proud. And one thing led

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to another. And Facebook, we're always talking

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and inboxing and whatnot. Well, somebody tagged

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me on the Mary story. And I saw all the comments.

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And I saw Beth had this big message of how much

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she loved Mary. And I respect Beth's opinion.

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So then I inbox Beth and I put a message on,

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you know, I'm like, hey, Beth, have your friend

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reach out to me. I'll go down there and see if

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I can maybe get the unit working. They had someone

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coming on Tuesday. So what was the Mary story?

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The Mary was that they didn't have a furnace

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for the community? Yeah. So Mary, she runs a

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community center and really feeds inner city

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kids. Like, I've been there now for a couple

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of days and seeing the people that are coming

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in and out and, you know, just her taking care

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of people. And I later found out she does this

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backpack thing where she gives you know, hundreds

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of backpacks away to kids in need, all inner

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city kids. And you know, I grew up in the city.

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I remember even the free lunches, like in the

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summertime, that was my jam. The boy can ride

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the BMX to go eat breakfast, eat lunch at the

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schools. And I'm like, they're not feeding the

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kids. I guess she, the building was really hot.

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So she was giving them their breakfast and their

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lunch together in the district that supplied

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the food, said, you can't do that. We're stopping

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the food. So I'm like, let me go down and see

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if I can just fix it. Went down there and you

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know, I'm looking at the unit and someone did

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try to fix it for her But they you know, they

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they didn't realize there was a leak So all the

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refrigerant leaked out and you're gonna be able

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to fix the one and I'm just like looking and

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I'm like I should just give this All my partner

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and I'm like, hey, I'm like I'm gonna give her

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a couple units just donate I'm banging out for

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you know, she's feeding kids and went on my partner's

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like absolutely You know get it done. I'm like

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I cool So I went down and I told her and, you

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know, one thing led to another. And then, you

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know, she took a picture with me, I think, put

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it on Facebook, and then the news got in. As

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they should, man. Yeah. So great. Yeah. This

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is what this show is about to. Right. This is

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it. This is the... Yeah. I mean... It was a great

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feeling. That's awesome. She had me crying, she's

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crying, I'm crying. I mean, but you didn't only

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help her and the community center. But at least

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you're not sweating, right? Right. You helped

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dozens, if not hundreds of kids. I think about

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me when I was an addict. I mean, I know I wouldn't

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want to have to take care of a child in that

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state I was in. So I can just imagine the kids

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are down there that got addicts for parents and

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that she provides food for them. And that's pretty

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much, that was the whole entirely for me. Anything

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else outside of that, I didn't care, is that

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this woman is providing time and her time and

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food to help inner city kids eat and get backpacks.

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So to me, that was all I needed to know. And

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I'm like... Men for the kids, you know, I'm always

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like, we try to help anyone when it comes to

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the kids. Sure. I it's just open checkbook for

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me. I say no when it comes to kids. You're the

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best man. That's I love this guy because he shares

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my values in business. You know, we're we're

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part of the community. Yeah. It's great that

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we're successful and and we make money and one

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day buy a big house or something. You know, that's

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cool. But. What really makes you respectable

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is exactly what he's talking about. Absolutely.

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And I just love seeing people have that mindset.

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It's absolutely amazing when someone can be so

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selfless like that. And obviously your struggles

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help that. But I mean, she must have been blown

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away. What was her reaction? Yeah, she couldn't

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believe it. You know, she started crying. And

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I had to put my sunglasses on. And Fran Brown

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happened to be there getting a haircut. Coach

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Fran Brown, Syracuse? Yeah, he was there. And

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her son has a barbershop right there, and he

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cuts a lot of kids' hair. And he's got his own

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business. And she's introducing me to Fran and

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her son. I'm like trying. You're like, I always

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wanted to meet you, but not when I'm crying.

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Yeah, but she had me choked up a little bit.

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And that was it. That feeling that I got from

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that was a reward to me as well. Absolutely.

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I can do that, and I can provide that. And so

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to me, it was a win -win for both of us. It's

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as good as a payment. It's a payment in the form

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of emotion. I got a lot of friends in business,

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and I tell them all, man, give more. We really

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give our team, all the guys on our team, we pay

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top industry pay for our technicians. All our

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installers get process pay off installs. Our

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service sales guys get, you know, commissions

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plus they're hourly. We do, we pay your medical,

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dental, vision. Every Tuesday I have catered

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breakfast, I feed them. Monthly we'll do like

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getaways. It might be like Friday at two o 'clock,

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we're done working. Meet at the retreat, we're

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having dinners. We have a party at the house

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with the pool. Constantly just taking care of

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my team. And, you know, in turn they take care

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of the company, in turn I'm able to help the

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community. And it's just a, it's a big, big circle.

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That's the part that I harp on and I just absolutely

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love how you said that. It's great from a moral

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standpoint to take care of it. It's what people

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should do, right? But also, if you step back

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as the greedy business owner, it is the recipe

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for a successful business. Because I bet your

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turnover is incredibly low. Very low. And I bet

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your loyalty to the company... And, you know,

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we've all seen, especially in probably some service

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industries, and I can think of a number of them

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where we've called a company and they've come

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to our house and the laborers show up, and half

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the time when they're doing their job, they're

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just bitching about the company. This guy's got

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me doing all these hours and I'm working 80 hours.

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You get the opposite. And that's the thing. We

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get the opposite all the time. It's not good

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for the business. No, and Matt and I have talked

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about this on the air before. You know, we're

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not going to get into the whole discussion, but

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basically, you know, the concept that, you know...

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You don't have to make your employees work 80

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hours a week. You don't have to pull yourself

00:22:57.000 --> 00:22:59.740
up by the bootstraps and you got to overwork

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yourself. If you take care of your employees,

00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:04.119
it comes back full circle. You give them a living

00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:05.759
wage, you give them health benefits, you give

00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:08.140
them time with their family, they show up and

00:23:08.140 --> 00:23:09.779
they stay. We're huge about that. We have unlimited

00:23:09.779 --> 00:23:14.400
PTO. 30 days out, you schedule 30 days out unlimited

00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:17.980
all year. Well, if you're looking for a career,

00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:20.579
this sounds like the guy you want to work for,

00:23:20.819 --> 00:23:23.289
Hummingbird. Also, just in general, a good trade

00:23:23.289 --> 00:23:26.029
is never going to go wrong. Ever. The other thing

00:23:26.029 --> 00:23:28.869
that we're always going to need to be warm or

00:23:28.869 --> 00:23:33.930
cool. Yes. This is an AI -proof job. This is

00:23:33.930 --> 00:23:37.569
true. This is true. We're going to get you out

00:23:37.569 --> 00:23:39.190
of here. We could talk to you forever, and we're

00:23:39.190 --> 00:23:40.970
definitely going to have you back and talk some

00:23:40.970 --> 00:23:43.869
more. Yeah, for sure. To close out, let's just

00:23:43.869 --> 00:23:47.009
dip into a little bit of that HVAC world and

00:23:47.009 --> 00:23:48.950
get a couple tips for people. Oh, I like it.

00:23:49.130 --> 00:23:53.599
Here's what I want to know. Is it true that the

00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:55.720
cheapest air filter you could put in your furnace

00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:58.480
is good, or do I really need to buy the premium

00:23:58.480 --> 00:24:01.900
model that's $30 versus $8? It depends on your

00:24:01.900 --> 00:24:04.599
duct work. Because what happens is if your duct

00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:09.380
work is not designed for, say, a thick pleated

00:24:09.380 --> 00:24:12.099
filter, air conditioning and heating is like

00:24:12.099 --> 00:24:15.380
we're pushing the one climate and we're pulling

00:24:15.380 --> 00:24:17.869
it back. So it's a complete circle. So you need

00:24:17.869 --> 00:24:20.470
that airflow, because if not, if you start to

00:24:20.470 --> 00:24:22.829
starve out the furnace, it's a thing called static

00:24:22.829 --> 00:24:25.289
pressure. You need to have right static pressure.

00:24:25.349 --> 00:24:27.750
You don't want this fan pushing, but it's pulling

00:24:27.750 --> 00:24:29.789
on this side. You know, you start to blow motors

00:24:29.789 --> 00:24:32.569
and things. Motors get overworked, over -amped.

00:24:33.029 --> 00:24:36.589
So a lot of people, at once COVID hit, wanted

00:24:36.589 --> 00:24:39.250
the thickest MERV filter they could get. I see.

00:24:39.390 --> 00:24:41.549
So now you have this nice circle of flow, and

00:24:41.549 --> 00:24:45.319
you're sticking a wall. What happens is your

00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:47.380
furnace is maybe not getting enough cool air,

00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:50.440
so it's overheating. Air conditioning is making

00:24:50.440 --> 00:24:52.220
such cold air, but it's not getting enough humid

00:24:52.220 --> 00:24:54.400
air to condensate, so it starts to freeze up.

00:24:54.660 --> 00:24:57.180
So a lot of people started just, you know, not

00:24:57.180 --> 00:24:58.579
ruining, but, you know, you're ruining it. You're

00:24:58.579 --> 00:25:00.200
going to have a service call, whether it's going

00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:03.180
to be a blower motor, shot, or a capacitor. You're

00:25:03.180 --> 00:25:04.980
freezing up or overheating your furnace because

00:25:04.980 --> 00:25:07.339
you've stopped that one return of the opposite

00:25:07.339 --> 00:25:10.079
air that kind of modulates the temperature. So

00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:13.079
what we tell people is the thinner one is much

00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:15.680
better, especially if you're not someone who's

00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:19.240
diligent on changing it. You know, so but now

00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:21.799
if your ductwork sized right and we have big

00:25:21.799 --> 00:25:24.640
return air, we love putting the four inch media

00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:27.380
filter cabinets in. It's a four inch filter and

00:25:27.380 --> 00:25:29.559
it's got pleats like this, which essentially

00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:32.160
makes for more surface area of air to get through.

00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:33.980
I see. So you can still get the right amount

00:25:33.980 --> 00:25:37.480
of air passing through. even though it's thickly

00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:39.079
pleated, because there's so much more surface

00:25:39.079 --> 00:25:41.579
area inside the four inches of xylophone. It's

00:25:41.579 --> 00:25:45.700
a straight wall, I see. Yeah. A follow -up question

00:25:45.700 --> 00:25:49.519
to that, 1B, would be, I actually, so we have

00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:52.980
forced air, and I'm very adamant about, you know,

00:25:52.980 --> 00:25:55.720
every year I clean out our lint system, which

00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:57.400
everybody should do, by the way. Number one cause

00:25:57.400 --> 00:25:59.660
of fire is in a home. So I have things like that.

00:25:59.680 --> 00:26:00.960
And one of the things I've learned is you've

00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:04.119
got to change your air filter in the HVAC system.

00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:06.609
We have forced air. And so, but there would be

00:26:06.609 --> 00:26:09.230
times I kept forgetting. So I subscribed recently

00:26:09.230 --> 00:26:12.089
to a service where they send me every three months

00:26:12.089 --> 00:26:14.650
for like 20 bucks a month. They send me one.

00:26:14.910 --> 00:26:17.029
And a lot of times it comes and I'm like, oh

00:26:17.029 --> 00:26:20.230
right, I forgot about that. Is that a good, okay,

00:26:20.309 --> 00:26:23.309
so that's reputable to do? Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:26:23.470 --> 00:26:26.089
I mean they see that. Yeah, our number one service

00:26:26.089 --> 00:26:28.730
call a lot of times is Dirty Filter. Because

00:26:28.730 --> 00:26:30.490
you got this filter that's been in there and

00:26:30.490 --> 00:26:33.230
it's gotten so dust -packed that it's not letting

00:26:33.230 --> 00:26:35.910
no air in. So either your air conditioner freezes

00:26:35.910 --> 00:26:38.069
up or your furnace is overheating and tripping

00:26:38.069 --> 00:26:40.950
on short cycle. Once it gets to a certain temperature,

00:26:41.009 --> 00:26:43.609
it'll just shut off. You know, so now people

00:26:43.609 --> 00:26:46.269
don't realize like short cycling furnace, you

00:26:46.269 --> 00:26:48.329
won't notice as much because maybe it'll still

00:26:48.329 --> 00:26:51.289
heat your house. Shutting off, reheating, shutting

00:26:51.289 --> 00:26:54.130
off and all those and off hits your electrical

00:26:54.130 --> 00:26:57.849
pan. But you don't realize it, you know, so that's

00:26:57.849 --> 00:27:00.309
where it hits it. Yes, we're getting schooled.

00:27:00.309 --> 00:27:02.230
We are. Yeah. All right. Last question for you,

00:27:02.250 --> 00:27:05.039
buddy. Yeah. I'm going to name a couple of types

00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:08.819
of heating and cooling devices. You rate them

00:27:08.819 --> 00:27:11.759
for me on a scale of one to five. I like this.

00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:16.759
Let's start with traditional forced air furnace.

00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:23.420
I mean, it's probably a four. They're a lot more

00:27:23.420 --> 00:27:29.660
forgiving than pumps, say. So I'll give you another

00:27:29.660 --> 00:27:33.079
one. Window air conditioner unit. It's a you

00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:38.779
know, it's too not efficient loud, okay Let's

00:27:38.779 --> 00:27:42.579
go with a heat boiler system hot hot water system

00:27:42.579 --> 00:27:45.380
So hot water boilers are probably the best I

00:27:45.380 --> 00:27:48.079
think one of the best heating system They give

00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:51.980
you even heat and there's no dust You know, it's

00:27:51.980 --> 00:27:54.359
like in floor radiant or just radiators. They're

00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:57.259
much better You know, you have a forced air system

00:27:57.259 --> 00:27:59.819
your bedrooms awesome But your kids at the end

00:27:59.819 --> 00:28:02.119
of the run is not getting as much flow. Yes.

00:28:02.579 --> 00:28:05.380
Hot water loop is just, you know, in -floor radiance

00:28:05.380 --> 00:28:07.960
the best. The walls, the studs in the walls,

00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:10.420
everything gets hot with in -floor radiance.

00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:12.819
So it's really nice, even heat. I have one, and

00:28:12.819 --> 00:28:18.259
I'm nervous. Nest thermostats. So, I mean, I

00:28:18.259 --> 00:28:21.200
use one at my camp. OK. The reason I use it is

00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:23.140
because I have in -floor radiant heat that I

00:28:23.140 --> 00:28:25.920
keep on. Like, 50, I keep it warm throughout

00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:28.319
the winter. I have a nest sitting next to it

00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:31.279
just because that controls the furnace back and

00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:33.339
if this turns on it alerts my phone. So I use

00:28:33.339 --> 00:28:35.640
it as like backup. Yeah. You know, so I like

00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:38.140
that. We don't install the nest. There are some

00:28:38.140 --> 00:28:40.299
other ones that we do like. Eagle Bee is one

00:28:40.299 --> 00:28:43.019
that we do install that we like. Eagle Bees I

00:28:43.019 --> 00:28:47.259
think maybe better than Nest. Yeah, see the only

00:28:47.259 --> 00:28:50.059
my complaint with Nest, we love it because I

00:28:50.059 --> 00:28:51.599
can control it from my phone. There's so much

00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:54.400
you can do. You can save money. But if you lose

00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:57.980
power, you lose you lose your thermostat. Yeah.

00:28:58.440 --> 00:29:01.539
And so, but I think that happens anyway, right?

00:29:02.019 --> 00:29:03.279
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Most systems. Yeah, yeah, the

00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:05.680
furnace. Typically, there's no electricity. Yeah.

00:29:05.900 --> 00:29:07.720
So, I mean, that's my only downfall, but I actually

00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:09.160
have a gerbil -powered one, so I don't have that

00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:10.700
issue. You have a gerbil -powered one? Yeah,

00:29:10.700 --> 00:29:13.220
yeah. Yeah, it costs a lot in feed, but, you

00:29:13.220 --> 00:29:15.819
know, offsets the electricity. Last one I'll

00:29:15.819 --> 00:29:19.220
give you, Chad, are heat pumps. Yeah, very efficient.

00:29:19.420 --> 00:29:21.119
It's really the way of the future right now.

00:29:21.500 --> 00:29:24.150
We... We're really into them heavy at the moment.

00:29:24.390 --> 00:29:26.250
We do a lot of their NYSERDA stuff, so you get

00:29:26.250 --> 00:29:28.829
the rebates. They're a lot more finicky. You

00:29:28.829 --> 00:29:31.150
got to stay on top of the maintenance with heat

00:29:31.150 --> 00:29:34.750
pumps. But they are very efficient. We're just

00:29:34.750 --> 00:29:36.930
now getting into electrical. We're actually enrolling

00:29:36.930 --> 00:29:39.170
electrical in the next month. Oh, wow. Yeah,

00:29:39.309 --> 00:29:41.849
fully licensed electricians and she's doing a

00:29:41.849 --> 00:29:44.029
lot of panel change outs. That's kind of the

00:29:44.029 --> 00:29:46.369
issue we have. It's like, you know, all of a

00:29:46.369 --> 00:29:49.450
sudden you need 50 amp, you know, to pull service

00:29:49.450 --> 00:29:51.190
and people don't have room in the breaker box.

00:29:51.190 --> 00:29:54.069
Right. So outside of that, they're very efficient.

00:29:54.529 --> 00:29:56.789
Once they turn on, they ask for power from the

00:29:56.789 --> 00:29:59.990
panel. They stay running forever unless you power

00:29:59.990 --> 00:30:04.630
it off. But it doesn't need to, if it need to

00:30:04.630 --> 00:30:08.190
make, say, cold air, the compressor just ramps

00:30:08.190 --> 00:30:11.309
down, but still keeps the energy there. It just

00:30:11.309 --> 00:30:13.309
ramps back up. It never needs to ask the panel

00:30:13.309 --> 00:30:15.529
for power to start these motors. They kind of

00:30:15.529 --> 00:30:18.349
stay running. Less times that you start and stop

00:30:18.349 --> 00:30:22.150
a unit is less money. This is why they're more

00:30:22.150 --> 00:30:24.789
efficient. That's incredible. It's been the most

00:30:24.789 --> 00:30:27.549
valuable day. Chad, Hummingbird Heating. For

00:30:27.549 --> 00:30:29.730
the people in the area who need it, what's the

00:30:29.730 --> 00:30:31.349
best website or phone number? Give us your plugs,

00:30:31.710 --> 00:30:33.829
man. Websites, phone numbers. Call hummingbird

00:30:33.829 --> 00:30:38.650
.com. Nice. Or our phone number is 315 -399 -9962.

00:30:38.910 --> 00:30:40.490
We'll make sure we put that up on the screen.

00:30:40.970 --> 00:30:43.690
Chad Taranoni. Did I say that right? Taranoni.

00:30:43.910 --> 00:30:47.190
Did good. Yeah. You are very good at what you

00:30:47.190 --> 00:30:50.369
do. You're a great businessman. Your story is

00:30:50.369 --> 00:30:53.369
inspiring. And what you did for Mary and that

00:30:53.369 --> 00:30:55.750
community center is everything that this show

00:30:55.750 --> 00:30:57.470
is about. Love it. We love you, dude. You come

00:30:57.470 --> 00:31:00.529
back anytime. Chad Taranoni here on Good News

00:31:00.529 --> 00:31:02.509
York, sponsored by Ads on the Go. Get ads on

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00:31:05.900 --> 00:31:07.680
We got a couple follow -up news. Yeah, yeah,

00:31:07.900 --> 00:31:10.299
we're gonna talk about and and then tell you

00:31:10.299 --> 00:31:12.059
what's happening for the rest of the week So

00:31:12.059 --> 00:31:18.779
we'll be right back We're back Hey, I gotta learn

00:31:18.779 --> 00:31:21.519
to not give you sound effect dude, you've given

00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:24.019
me three You think I would have learned them

00:31:24.019 --> 00:31:26.099
my mistake on the first one actually four. Well,

00:31:26.099 --> 00:31:27.960
I gave myself Yeah, you showed up with that one

00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:29.940
I wouldn't have bought that one. It's Good News

00:31:29.940 --> 00:31:32.619
York. We're back. Sponsored by ads on the go.

00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:35.000
Get ads on the go dot com. Chad Turinone was

00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:39.160
just on. What a fucking dude, man. He is like

00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:42.680
I just he's the best. I feel you know, that's

00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:44.859
that's the thing I like about him the most is

00:31:44.859 --> 00:31:47.579
he sees the value in these things. You don't

00:31:47.579 --> 00:31:49.839
have to talk him into it. You know, he understands

00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:54.819
that using his success to make his team's life

00:31:54.819 --> 00:31:58.029
better and to make the community better. Drives

00:31:58.029 --> 00:32:00.410
more success right and we've talked about it

00:32:00.410 --> 00:32:02.809
and you know, we're in a time now It's so simple

00:32:02.809 --> 00:32:05.410
that it it almost it makes it more infuriating

00:32:05.410 --> 00:32:07.289
when you see folks that don't operate with them

00:32:07.289 --> 00:32:10.250
We're living in a time where there's a lack of

00:32:10.250 --> 00:32:15.009
empathy and people are not Moved or care about

00:32:15.009 --> 00:32:17.289
other people unless it affects them. Yeah. And

00:32:17.289 --> 00:32:19.089
so when you hear stories like that and by the

00:32:19.089 --> 00:32:21.130
way You know, when you hear those kind of stories

00:32:21.130 --> 00:32:23.750
and maybe people are doing it to virtue signal,

00:32:24.029 --> 00:32:25.950
like, look at what I'm doing. You can tell that

00:32:25.950 --> 00:32:28.029
that was genuinely from his heart. He didn't

00:32:28.029 --> 00:32:29.230
plan on putting it in the news. The only reason

00:32:29.230 --> 00:32:31.569
he got publicity is because the woman he helped

00:32:31.569 --> 00:32:34.049
took a selfie and posted it herself. Which makes

00:32:34.049 --> 00:32:36.930
it even more genuine. He didn't bring his camera

00:32:36.930 --> 00:32:39.329
crew. No. You know, he didn't put out a press

00:32:39.329 --> 00:32:43.990
release. He did a good thing with no expectation

00:32:43.990 --> 00:32:47.730
of recognition or marketing value or anything

00:32:47.730 --> 00:32:51.000
of those. which is hard to do, because sometimes

00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:52.980
you see that stuff going on the opposite of what

00:32:52.980 --> 00:32:54.740
I was talking about. You see all these... And

00:32:54.740 --> 00:32:58.900
listen, there's nothing wrong with wanting to

00:32:58.900 --> 00:33:01.740
let folks know that you're doing good, especially

00:33:01.740 --> 00:33:04.119
if it comes from my place of trying to inspire

00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.440
others to do the same, right? But we've also

00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:10.059
all seen the purely performative, look how good

00:33:10.059 --> 00:33:13.259
of a person I am nonsense. And it was not that

00:33:13.259 --> 00:33:17.660
at all. So... A couple things in the news that

00:33:17.660 --> 00:33:19.559
came across our desk that said, listen, we got

00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:21.900
to spend a few minutes on this episode and add

00:33:21.900 --> 00:33:25.140
them to the show. The first one that I saw, and

00:33:25.140 --> 00:33:29.099
I knew you would be all over, is there is some

00:33:29.099 --> 00:33:33.400
reporting on the future contract of the king

00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:36.339
of all media, Howard Stern. So I'll give you

00:33:36.339 --> 00:33:38.779
a little background for people that aren't Stern

00:33:38.779 --> 00:33:43.140
fans. He's been with Sirius for many decades

00:33:43.140 --> 00:33:46.660
now. 2005, he signed up. Hundreds of millions

00:33:46.660 --> 00:33:50.220
of dollars they have paid him. And he's renewed

00:33:50.220 --> 00:33:53.420
his contract many times. This one has been coming

00:33:53.420 --> 00:33:55.660
up. It's something he's been talking about. It's

00:33:55.660 --> 00:33:58.140
something that's been very straightforward. And

00:33:58.140 --> 00:34:03.920
the guy's in his 70s, you know? So it was very

00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:07.269
much expected that he might... be ready to retire

00:34:07.269 --> 00:34:09.469
or at least scale back, and he scaled back quite

00:34:09.469 --> 00:34:12.250
a bit in previous contracts, but really scale

00:34:12.250 --> 00:34:16.070
back and become a retired guy, right? Yeah. News

00:34:16.070 --> 00:34:19.369
came out today with a bunch of outlets screaming,

00:34:19.630 --> 00:34:22.329
Howard's been canceled. Yeah. And they're not

00:34:22.329 --> 00:34:24.550
going to renew his contract because he was canceled.

00:34:24.590 --> 00:34:28.530
Because he's woke. Yeah, and that was the next...

00:34:28.530 --> 00:34:31.110
A lot of right -wing influencers were presenting

00:34:31.110 --> 00:34:33.429
it that way, which is absolute bullshit. Yeah.

00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:38.159
He wasn't canceled. No. I have not missed an

00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:40.340
episode of Howard Stern since probably 1997.

00:34:41.179 --> 00:34:43.659
Maybe it's a little spotty, but once he signed

00:34:43.659 --> 00:34:46.460
on to Sirius in 05, I haven't missed an episode.

00:34:46.500 --> 00:34:49.019
And as we saw in the K -Rockathon special, I've

00:34:49.019 --> 00:34:52.679
appeared on that show a few times. And so I know

00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:54.780
the ins and outs of that show, man. And I know

00:34:54.780 --> 00:34:56.940
you do, too. You listen pretty religiously for

00:34:56.940 --> 00:35:00.679
a while. So when Howard got on to Sirius... He

00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:03.119
would sign, I wanna say like anywhere from three

00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:05.360
to five year contracts. And every time the three

00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.079
year, you know, the third year, the fifth year,

00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:08.940
whatever it was, would come up his contract year,

00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:11.480
all the callers would call in, Howard, don't,

00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:13.059
you know, don't. And it would become this thing

00:35:13.059 --> 00:35:14.400
where he would play with the audience and then

00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:16.119
he'd make a big announcement and he would stay.

00:35:16.539 --> 00:35:19.380
Well, I said in the last couple of years, once

00:35:19.380 --> 00:35:23.159
COVID hit, he built a studio in his house on

00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:26.300
Long Island, but also in his Florida home. And

00:35:26.300 --> 00:35:27.900
he only comes in for certain things, like he

00:35:27.900 --> 00:35:29.900
came in when he wanted to... be there in person

00:35:29.900 --> 00:35:31.980
to meet Bruce Springsteen. But all his staff

00:35:31.980 --> 00:35:34.179
is still in the New York offices. That's when

00:35:34.179 --> 00:35:37.280
I started realizing, he doesn't need Sirius,

00:35:37.340 --> 00:35:39.639
and I don't think Sirius needs him anymore. We

00:35:39.639 --> 00:35:43.039
live in a world, he can, I think, but even before

00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:46.699
this news, my projection was, he's gonna leave,

00:35:46.739 --> 00:35:49.179
he's not gonna resign, but he's going to be on

00:35:49.179 --> 00:35:52.380
the air, whether it's once a month, whether it's

00:35:52.380 --> 00:35:55.500
three times a month, maybe once a week, he can't

00:35:55.500 --> 00:35:57.300
walk away from the microphone, he goes crazy.

00:35:58.150 --> 00:36:02.130
But the way this was presented was he got canceled,

00:36:02.130 --> 00:36:04.510
like you said. If you read some of the articles

00:36:04.510 --> 00:36:07.909
I've read, first of all, Sirius has not declined.

00:36:07.929 --> 00:36:09.730
Yeah, there's not even done deal on it. They've

00:36:09.730 --> 00:36:11.269
said they're going to offer him another contract.

00:36:11.309 --> 00:36:12.929
They just don't think he's going to sign it.

00:36:12.929 --> 00:36:16.030
Right. And Howard, probably his camp is saying

00:36:16.030 --> 00:36:18.010
he's probably not going to sign it. Nothing's

00:36:18.010 --> 00:36:20.110
definitive. Now, the only thing that concerned

00:36:20.110 --> 00:36:22.769
me, which I'd love your opinion on, is part of

00:36:22.769 --> 00:36:26.840
the article that I read said, an inside source

00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:29.739
said that it's more about how he's been more

00:36:29.739 --> 00:36:33.019
left -leaning politically these days and he thinks

00:36:33.019 --> 00:36:36.400
that because the federal government is kind of

00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:40.739
involved in Sirius in some sort of way that the

00:36:40.739 --> 00:36:42.340
same thing with Colbert that they're kind of

00:36:42.340 --> 00:36:43.980
pushing him out and I don't know what to make

00:36:43.980 --> 00:36:49.500
of that. I mean I guess it's possible but I don't

00:36:49.500 --> 00:36:54.039
see it as likely again. You can make anything

00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:57.320
plausible, right? Oh, yeah, well, that's whatever.

00:36:57.820 --> 00:37:00.400
Again, this is what we've been talking about

00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:03.460
long before the recent administration took office

00:37:03.460 --> 00:37:05.800
and long before everything. We know how old he

00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.280
is. We know as listening to him how close he

00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:11.059
is to retirement and how miserable he is, which

00:37:11.059 --> 00:37:14.400
is great. You know, as we talk about Chad and

00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:17.659
taking care of our people, I've honestly believed

00:37:17.659 --> 00:37:19.400
for a long time that a lot of the reason how

00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.179
it's continued at all. is just to keep his staff

00:37:22.179 --> 00:37:24.440
employed because who the fuck else is going to

00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:27.039
hire a whack pack? Well, there was a famous there

00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:29.360
was a famous I was talking about how he understands

00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:31.519
that his contract was up every three to five

00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:33.460
years. One of my favorite genuinely cares about

00:37:33.460 --> 00:37:36.179
those people. He absolutely does. One of my favorite

00:37:36.179 --> 00:37:38.400
moments on that show in Stern in all of Stern

00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:42.159
history was it was a contract. His contract was

00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.880
up. And so he finally came on the air one day

00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:49.800
and announced he's resigning. But Sal, Governalli,

00:37:49.820 --> 00:37:52.400
one of his writers on the show, on Air Personalities,

00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:56.059
was late that day. So when Sal came in, okay,

00:37:56.380 --> 00:37:59.199
they re -did the announcement, and he said, I'm

00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:03.219
not signing. And Sal breaks down because he doesn't

00:38:03.219 --> 00:38:05.119
have any money saved, he's worried about his

00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:07.659
kids, and they prank him, and he signs on. And

00:38:07.659 --> 00:38:09.920
ever since that day, he's always mentioned, Jesus

00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:11.940
Christ, now I guess I do have to keep signing

00:38:11.940 --> 00:38:15.789
to keep my staff fed. Which, by the way, I listened

00:38:15.789 --> 00:38:17.889
to the replay of that. I didn't hear it live.

00:38:18.210 --> 00:38:22.050
So I experienced Sal. Oh, you went through the

00:38:22.050 --> 00:38:24.369
wrong enough. I went through what Sal was going

00:38:24.369 --> 00:38:25.789
through, which is why it was one of my favorite

00:38:25.789 --> 00:38:28.210
moments in history, because I had been had. But

00:38:28.210 --> 00:38:30.670
yeah, I think a big part of it is that. But at

00:38:30.670 --> 00:38:32.610
this point, I just don't see. I don't think Sirius

00:38:32.610 --> 00:38:34.610
needs him. And I don't mean that in a negative

00:38:34.610 --> 00:38:37.030
way. I do, but. With the way digital media is,

00:38:37.030 --> 00:38:40.230
he can go off on his own. That's his advantage.

00:38:40.269 --> 00:38:42.349
That's not theirs. Do you think Sirius is going

00:38:42.349 --> 00:38:44.110
to tank when he goes? I don't know that it's

00:38:44.110 --> 00:38:48.190
going to tank, but the idea that he doesn't to

00:38:48.190 --> 00:38:51.510
this day still drive subscriptions is just blatantly

00:38:51.510 --> 00:38:54.570
false. It's a secondary subscription. Absolutely.

00:38:54.829 --> 00:38:57.070
The Howard channels don't come out of the box.

00:38:57.110 --> 00:38:59.530
You have to pay extra to get that. And you do

00:38:59.530 --> 00:39:01.429
get a couple more beyond the Howard channels

00:39:01.429 --> 00:39:03.710
in that extra package, but not much. Nothing

00:39:03.710 --> 00:39:05.670
that you're. It's literally the only reason you

00:39:05.670 --> 00:39:08.550
buy onto that is for Howard and millions of people

00:39:08.550 --> 00:39:11.590
do so. Whether or not they'll stick around for

00:39:11.590 --> 00:39:14.510
just the music or the other things. I don't know

00:39:14.510 --> 00:39:17.409
I think what they might do as we you're talking

00:39:17.409 --> 00:39:19.230
about here I think there's a good chance that

00:39:19.230 --> 00:39:21.170
they will license some of this old content and

00:39:21.170 --> 00:39:23.829
keep the like the Howard 101 running Yeah, the

00:39:23.829 --> 00:39:26.909
replays I think that's probably real easy money

00:39:26.909 --> 00:39:29.550
for Howard and a real easy thing for Sirius to

00:39:29.550 --> 00:39:32.610
do to maintain Some of that audience. I also

00:39:32.610 --> 00:39:34.190
think there'll be some spinoffs. Like I think

00:39:34.190 --> 00:39:36.800
Gary will have his own show or anyone else that

00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:39.039
wants. John Hein. I don't know. I feel like Sirius

00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:41.719
will be like, any sort of lineage of Howard Stern

00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:44.059
that we can keep, they might. It all depends

00:39:44.059 --> 00:39:45.900
on what Howard's going to do, too. You also got

00:39:45.900 --> 00:39:47.760
to keep in mind that luckily, Howard has run

00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:49.940
out this clock so long that many of his staff

00:39:49.940 --> 00:39:53.079
are also retirementing. Yeah, that's true. Ronnie

00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:56.440
the limo driver already retired. Ronnie. You

00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:59.880
know, Gary could. Gary. You know what I mean?

00:39:59.900 --> 00:40:02.920
I don't know exactly how old. Bababoo he is but

00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:05.119
I actually do know he's 60 something. Yeah, so

00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:08.619
he's he could yeah, you know Robin absolutely

00:40:08.619 --> 00:40:10.860
could Robin's going through a lot of health problems.

00:40:10.860 --> 00:40:13.500
She's in and out on and off with yeah, so so

00:40:13.500 --> 00:40:17.059
I'm sure you know Fred retired like ten years

00:40:17.059 --> 00:40:20.559
ago and you still sit there Eric. Yes, but You

00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:22.380
know what? I mean like there's a lot of those

00:40:22.380 --> 00:40:24.099
folks and then so who does that leave you get

00:40:24.099 --> 00:40:27.199
some of the younger guys Yeah, you know Richard

00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:30.800
and Sal and you they will definitely get picked

00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:33.639
up by somebody if they don't do something. Richard

00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:35.400
and Sal, I feel like, are the ones that would

00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:38.079
have the best potential to carry their own thing.

00:40:38.219 --> 00:40:40.900
100 % agree. But I don't know, let me ask you

00:40:40.900 --> 00:40:43.559
this. We're getting more in the weeds than I

00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:45.199
expected. I can talk about Howard for eight hours

00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:48.860
straight. Richard and Sal are awesome. They're

00:40:48.860 --> 00:40:52.659
creative geniuses. They do some phenomenal bits.

00:40:52.699 --> 00:40:56.579
Yeah. But if it was just them, do you think a

00:40:56.579 --> 00:40:59.300
show of just Richard and Sal would be too much?

00:40:59.989 --> 00:41:02.090
Too much in the way of what like too much just

00:41:02.090 --> 00:41:04.590
just too much of that of the ridiculousness Yeah,

00:41:04.769 --> 00:41:07.190
I don't think so. I mean it all depends on what

00:41:07.190 --> 00:41:09.269
the format of the show is Yeah, I have guests.

00:41:09.369 --> 00:41:11.829
Is it just their prank calls, right? I think

00:41:11.829 --> 00:41:14.389
there is a yeah There's a potential where it

00:41:14.389 --> 00:41:17.110
I think Richard and sale the reason why they're

00:41:17.110 --> 00:41:19.849
they are very funny and very talented guys But

00:41:19.849 --> 00:41:23.489
I think what makes it them the the funniest is

00:41:23.489 --> 00:41:26.030
the dichotomy between like the dynamic between

00:41:26.269 --> 00:41:29.929
the shit that they do on Howard's show, and Howard's

00:41:29.929 --> 00:41:31.929
like, Jesus Christ, like, why are you doing this?

00:41:31.929 --> 00:41:34.030
Yeah, so for that exact reason, I feel like -

00:41:34.030 --> 00:41:36.210
They can't masturbate at work. Part of their

00:41:36.210 --> 00:41:41.949
gold, part of their shtick, is being the - Doing

00:41:41.949 --> 00:41:44.690
gay stuff. The mediocre employee. Right. You

00:41:44.690 --> 00:41:46.989
know what I mean? Not the head. So you can imagine

00:41:46.989 --> 00:41:50.869
now that, you know, I don't know if you make

00:41:50.869 --> 00:41:53.010
it Richard or Sal, we'll go with Sal. Well, imagine

00:41:53.010 --> 00:41:55.750
Sal is the host of the show. He is now has to

00:41:55.750 --> 00:41:58.710
run it like Howard does for everything. Yeah.

00:41:59.110 --> 00:42:02.150
I don't know. I just don't see him as either

00:42:02.150 --> 00:42:04.110
one of those fellows. He's an HR nightmare. You

00:42:04.110 --> 00:42:07.170
know myself. And that's the thing. That's the

00:42:07.170 --> 00:42:09.150
whole bit. What happens when the HR nightmare

00:42:09.150 --> 00:42:12.469
is the boss? Exactly. You know, that could work.

00:42:12.750 --> 00:42:14.070
You could do like it could be like a Michael

00:42:14.070 --> 00:42:15.809
Scott thing. I feel like there would be a lot

00:42:15.809 --> 00:42:18.070
of closed meetings beforehand, like, listen,

00:42:18.130 --> 00:42:20.389
we're going to give you a show, but this is not

00:42:20.389 --> 00:42:22.130
going to happen. It's definitely one of those.

00:42:22.429 --> 00:42:24.610
You're going to shoot your own studio in your

00:42:24.610 --> 00:42:27.590
house with no liability. Well, actually, that's

00:42:27.590 --> 00:42:29.769
probably true because a lot of the sun's ten

00:42:29.769 --> 00:42:33.710
minute dump button. Yeah. No, but you're actually

00:42:33.710 --> 00:42:35.269
right. That's a good point, because a lot of

00:42:35.269 --> 00:42:37.769
the stunts that Richard and Sal did, they legally

00:42:37.769 --> 00:42:42.650
had to do. Yeah, no big corporation in New York

00:42:42.650 --> 00:42:44.469
City is like, you ain't doing that in the building.

00:42:44.889 --> 00:42:47.989
Some dingy apartment, like the Benji thing. You

00:42:47.989 --> 00:42:50.650
know, people, you know, even though the king

00:42:50.650 --> 00:42:52.550
of all media was self -proclaimed by him, like

00:42:52.550 --> 00:42:54.610
it was kind of a joke, but it stuck. You know,

00:42:54.610 --> 00:42:57.150
he really is. And the moment that he proved it

00:42:57.150 --> 00:43:00.130
to me, it wasn't that he owned Terrestrial Radio,

00:43:00.409 --> 00:43:03.610
then went over to satellite and just dominated.

00:43:03.949 --> 00:43:06.230
That's the obvious stuff you see. I'm talking

00:43:06.230 --> 00:43:09.349
about when Twitter Shortly like when Twitter

00:43:09.349 --> 00:43:11.590
had come out and it you hadn't caught on yet

00:43:11.590 --> 00:43:14.050
Howard was kind of late to the party and one

00:43:14.050 --> 00:43:18.409
night I'm home and I'm watching TV and Howard

00:43:18.409 --> 00:43:20.269
gets up on Twitter and he starts tweeting for

00:43:20.269 --> 00:43:22.550
the first time and he says hey guys I'm gonna

00:43:22.550 --> 00:43:25.829
live tweet right now Private parts his movie

00:43:25.829 --> 00:43:29.289
is on TV right now on cable. This is yeah back

00:43:29.289 --> 00:43:32.869
when there was cable streaming and So I turn

00:43:32.869 --> 00:43:35.429
it to how private parts, which is one of my favorite

00:43:35.429 --> 00:43:39.090
movies of all time and he's live tweeting during

00:43:39.090 --> 00:43:41.570
it. And he's talking about, oh, I remember this

00:43:41.570 --> 00:43:43.610
scene, and this happened behind the scene. And

00:43:43.610 --> 00:43:45.829
I'm like, this motherfucker is the king of all

00:43:45.829 --> 00:43:48.090
media. He's never been on Twitter. He finally

00:43:48.090 --> 00:43:51.010
joins, and he revolutionizes, at the time, he

00:43:51.010 --> 00:43:53.829
revolutionizes Twitter in his own way, because

00:43:53.829 --> 00:43:55.550
he's the king of all media. No one had done that

00:43:55.550 --> 00:43:57.889
at that point. No one had talked to live tweet.

00:43:57.949 --> 00:44:01.389
It was awesome. It was just great. He's amazing.

00:44:01.969 --> 00:44:05.690
Amazing. And if it's a political thing, that's

00:44:05.690 --> 00:44:08.239
a shame. But I'm more on the air of what you're

00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:09.820
saying, where I just think, I think it's run

00:44:09.820 --> 00:44:12.699
its course. And I don't mean it's stale. I don't

00:44:12.699 --> 00:44:15.500
mean, you know, it's gone on too long. At some

00:44:15.500 --> 00:44:16.860
point, everything ends. It's a perfect storm.

00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:19.659
Now is the time, I think. People need to retire.

00:44:19.900 --> 00:44:21.599
This is the one message that I would love to

00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:24.119
get across, especially to people who are baby

00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:27.820
boomers of Howard's generation. It's OK to retire.

00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:31.199
Yeah. You don't have to work. You can enjoy.

00:44:31.420 --> 00:44:34.860
Until the moment you drop. You don't have to

00:44:34.860 --> 00:44:36.800
know and even when you're rich, that's the worst

00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:39.780
part of these these uber rich motherfuckers like

00:44:39.780 --> 00:44:42.380
Howard and You know, I love them and it's great

00:44:42.380 --> 00:44:45.659
and all but like you were the last one That needs

00:44:45.659 --> 00:44:48.059
to work till you're 900 years old. I'm just I

00:44:48.059 --> 00:44:49.519
hear him say that he's like I got to keep working

00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:52.619
I got do you think it's because his lifestyle

00:44:52.619 --> 00:44:54.960
now requires more income. You know, he's got

00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:56.900
it That's the thing. He's he's got so much money

00:44:56.900 --> 00:45:00.940
in the bank And especially at his age he could

00:45:00.940 --> 00:45:04.989
spend wantonly Every day until he dies and not

00:45:04.989 --> 00:45:07.949
go bro, right? He's he's past that point, you

00:45:07.949 --> 00:45:10.349
know But in his head is he passed that point

00:45:10.349 --> 00:45:13.070
because that's the other issue that honestly

00:45:13.070 --> 00:45:16.349
I think that boomers struggle from is They come

00:45:16.349 --> 00:45:17.929
from that point where they had parents that went

00:45:17.929 --> 00:45:19.110
through the depression and all the shit They

00:45:19.110 --> 00:45:20.989
lost everything and I think they have it in the

00:45:20.989 --> 00:45:23.550
back of their mind that No matter how much you

00:45:23.550 --> 00:45:25.690
got it could be gone. You're gonna be gone. Oh,

00:45:25.690 --> 00:45:28.010
no, that's that's a problem I have I have a real

00:45:28.010 --> 00:45:31.409
fear of losing all the money that I have because

00:45:32.690 --> 00:45:35.650
That that exact thing where I grew up in in a

00:45:35.650 --> 00:45:37.670
family that we lived paycheck to paycheck and

00:45:37.670 --> 00:45:40.309
my parents are boomers and it was You know, we

00:45:40.309 --> 00:45:42.210
could lose it all, you know, that was a real

00:45:42.210 --> 00:45:44.530
fear So I get that those are also the same people

00:45:44.530 --> 00:45:46.730
that are mad that Howard isn't like throwing

00:45:46.730 --> 00:45:49.710
baloney off strippers asses any right? This is

00:45:49.710 --> 00:45:52.550
this is woke bullshit. It's like no he's evolved

00:45:52.550 --> 00:45:54.949
people like everybody It's a hundred percent

00:45:54.949 --> 00:45:56.630
people. I don't want to see that anymore. I mean,

00:45:56.750 --> 00:45:59.480
I would still watch it'd be hilarious, but How

00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:02.079
dare he has a different opinion on the president?

00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:04.920
Yeah, right. Because, you know, 30 years ago,

00:46:04.980 --> 00:46:06.559
he interviewed the president when the president

00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:09.159
was literally a playboy, and he would treat him

00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:11.739
like a playboy, but now he's the leader of the

00:46:11.739 --> 00:46:13.599
free world, and how dare you look at that man

00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:15.099
differently under that lens? You know what I

00:46:15.099 --> 00:46:17.420
mean? And given who we're talking about, who

00:46:17.420 --> 00:46:20.780
he's talking, who Howard's talking about, I think

00:46:20.780 --> 00:46:22.780
it's very fair. It's just that concept in general

00:46:22.780 --> 00:46:25.179
of like... Howard never says, Howard says, I

00:46:25.179 --> 00:46:27.539
voted Republican, I voted Democrat, I'm an independent.

00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:30.559
He just talks about common sense. His politics

00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:35.900
align with mine. It's just common sense. If what

00:46:35.900 --> 00:46:38.000
he says on the air rubs you the wrong way, then

00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:39.960
you're on the wrong side of things, in my opinion.

00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:43.099
Or not. That's his fucking career. Whatever the

00:46:43.099 --> 00:46:49.579
fuck. He's paid to talk. He's not shocking enough

00:46:49.579 --> 00:46:52.639
for them, but when he shocks them with his political...

00:46:52.650 --> 00:46:55.409
opinion, suddenly it's too much. Number one reason

00:46:55.409 --> 00:46:57.750
people gave. We want to hear what he's going

00:46:57.750 --> 00:47:01.010
to say next. That's the truth. People didn't

00:47:01.010 --> 00:47:04.230
want to turn it. Probably the best line, anything

00:47:04.230 --> 00:47:06.269
that anybody should pay attention to. Do you

00:47:06.269 --> 00:47:07.690
know at one time, and I might be fudging the

00:47:07.690 --> 00:47:10.449
numbers, but it's close, at one time, every car

00:47:10.449 --> 00:47:13.590
in America, every three cars in America, were

00:47:13.590 --> 00:47:15.369
listening to Howard. Maybe it was just in the

00:47:15.369 --> 00:47:17.630
Northeast. There was an entire region, if not

00:47:17.630 --> 00:47:19.289
the country, where at one time in Terrestrial

00:47:19.289 --> 00:47:21.940
Radio, every three cars had Howard on. I mean,

00:47:21.940 --> 00:47:25.400
that's fucking insane. It's true. Anyway. You

00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:30.659
got one more. From the long standing king of

00:47:30.659 --> 00:47:36.139
all media to new media. Just a little little

00:47:36.139 --> 00:47:38.260
we're doing a lot of celebrity gossip today.

00:47:38.460 --> 00:47:40.760
This is it. Yeah, we're very we're like two little

00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:43.800
celebrity gossip. Celebrity gossip. We're just

00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:46.900
like two old ladies at a bar with the perm. Yeah.

00:47:48.529 --> 00:47:51.010
Let's talk about Briana chicken. Let's talk about

00:47:51.010 --> 00:47:53.369
her Briana chicken fried, which was not on my

00:47:53.369 --> 00:47:55.269
radar until I saw this Barstool I'm sorry. I

00:47:55.269 --> 00:47:56.989
just love that name. Of course. That's not a

00:47:56.989 --> 00:48:01.309
real name, but it's the best Stage name, I guess

00:48:01.309 --> 00:48:03.230
nickname. I don't even know if she goes by it

00:48:03.230 --> 00:48:06.849
as a stage name, but it's just fun to say So

00:48:06.849 --> 00:48:08.889
we talked about this a little bit yesterday and

00:48:08.889 --> 00:48:12.769
then after the show You know this for a recap.

00:48:12.769 --> 00:48:14.829
This is a young woman podcast host works for

00:48:14.829 --> 00:48:18.900
bar school hosts a podcast called BFFs, I believe.

00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:25.039
Just an interesting young personality. Celebrity,

00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:29.480
you would say, these days. Dated celebrity country

00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:33.480
singer, Zach Bryan. They broke up. Apparently

00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:36.940
he's a piece of shit, allegedly. Don't sue me.

00:48:37.219 --> 00:48:42.840
Or do. Use the publicity. Anyway, they broke

00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:47.400
up. He tried to offer her $12 million to not

00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:50.119
say a word about his behavior during the relationship.

00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:53.860
She said no. She's bad. I feel like that really

00:48:53.860 --> 00:48:55.539
chapped his ass more than anything. That is bad.

00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:58.079
It's been a while. They've been broken up for

00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:01.480
a number of months now. Homeboys still hurting

00:49:01.480 --> 00:49:04.239
for it. So I want to show you a couple of things.

00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:07.280
The first thing I just want to show you is a

00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:10.059
TikTok video that just kind of puts Brianna next

00:49:10.059 --> 00:49:13.360
to Zach Brian's new girlfriend. And I just want

00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:15.579
you to, I just want your opinion and see if you

00:49:15.579 --> 00:49:18.300
think this fella has a type. And I, in disclosure,

00:49:18.420 --> 00:49:20.519
I have no idea what I'm looking for. Yeah, yeah,

00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:23.840
so Danny might have this. This is, you will see,

00:49:23.860 --> 00:49:25.800
this is a reaction video, so this is a random

00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:27.420
creator, I don't know who she is in the foreground,

00:49:27.900 --> 00:49:29.960
talking about this. And the girl on the left

00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:32.260
in the background is, that's Briana Chicken Fried?

00:49:32.500 --> 00:49:35.000
And Zach's new girl. Is on the right. So if you

00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:36.980
want to play this, buddy, and honestly the audio

00:49:36.980 --> 00:49:37.900
isn't even super important. Alright, this is

00:49:37.900 --> 00:49:40.690
the last video I'm gonna post. But just so you

00:49:40.690 --> 00:49:42.070
can see, and if you don't want to, you can just

00:49:42.070 --> 00:49:43.789
pause it right there. Dude, they look like the

00:49:43.789 --> 00:49:47.210
same person. Yeah. So here's the thing. Is that

00:49:47.210 --> 00:49:49.110
where you're going? One's Brianna, one's the

00:49:49.110 --> 00:49:52.150
new girl. Or are they two pictures of the same

00:49:52.150 --> 00:49:54.150
girl? This is the Kanye thing you were talking

00:49:54.150 --> 00:49:58.010
about. This is exactly what I'm saying. So Pearl

00:49:58.010 --> 00:50:02.789
misses her bad. Yeah. Badly. Yeah. Right? And

00:50:02.789 --> 00:50:07.570
again, this has gone on for months. So. Breonna's

00:50:07.570 --> 00:50:08.929
talked about in a bunch of different podcasts

00:50:08.929 --> 00:50:10.570
on her own podcast, things like that, different

00:50:10.570 --> 00:50:13.170
things that have happened. Uh, definitely paint

00:50:13.170 --> 00:50:17.329
him as a typical, just hothead, uh, asshole boyfriend.

00:50:18.010 --> 00:50:21.889
Um, honestly, nothing that I feel like was worth

00:50:21.889 --> 00:50:24.170
trying to get her to stay quiet for 12 million

00:50:24.170 --> 00:50:25.690
for, and I don't know, maybe there's more she's

00:50:25.690 --> 00:50:27.969
holding back. I don't know what it is, but again,

00:50:28.769 --> 00:50:31.329
really chapping this guy's ass. And if we cut

00:50:31.329 --> 00:50:33.170
to the new video, so this is, we talked about

00:50:33.170 --> 00:50:35.630
them yesterday and I got home and flipped on

00:50:35.630 --> 00:50:38.329
the tick tock and learned. This is something

00:50:38.329 --> 00:50:40.429
that homeboy dropped yesterday that I wasn't

00:50:40.429 --> 00:50:41.670
aware of. So that's him. That's Zach Brian? This

00:50:41.670 --> 00:50:44.909
is Zach Brian. This is his Instagram story where

00:50:44.909 --> 00:50:50.309
he films himself badly happy Gilmore -ing a burning

00:50:50.309 --> 00:50:57.110
bar stool sports flag. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So let

00:50:57.110 --> 00:50:59.449
me ask you this, because this is where my mind

00:50:59.449 --> 00:51:05.090
goes. First of all, $12 million to not smear

00:51:05.090 --> 00:51:08.349
him. That first of all that's a huge offer like

00:51:08.349 --> 00:51:10.929
I would think maybe two three million right four

00:51:10.929 --> 00:51:13.630
million, right? So my question is they didn't

00:51:13.630 --> 00:51:16.010
date that long if she turns it down It's got

00:51:16.010 --> 00:51:18.630
to be one of two things. She either doesn't need

00:51:18.630 --> 00:51:22.909
the money and and doesn't care about it or He

00:51:22.909 --> 00:51:25.309
did some really bad shit that she wants people

00:51:25.309 --> 00:51:29.909
to know why not both Or maybe both. Okay. Yeah,

00:51:29.909 --> 00:51:33.889
but I mean dude, so um, I don't know exactly

00:51:34.010 --> 00:51:37.250
What she makes from barstool and I'm positive

00:51:37.250 --> 00:51:39.449
that she's got other brand deals and things like

00:51:39.449 --> 00:51:44.210
that as as influencers Yeah, like she does But

00:51:44.210 --> 00:51:48.250
she definitely Has as Howard would say fuck you

00:51:48.250 --> 00:51:50.989
money. It's you know us, you know anybody who

00:51:50.989 --> 00:51:54.269
can turn down 12 million dollars, dude If you

00:51:54.269 --> 00:51:57.849
gave me 12 million to never say your name again

00:51:57.849 --> 00:52:01.610
Bye. I'm right. I will never I'll pretend. I

00:52:01.610 --> 00:52:03.670
don't know you dude. Your wife would do that

00:52:03.659 --> 00:52:08.440
Yes. To me. Not seriously, though. 12 million

00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:13.099
dollars to not do something. Imagine how hard

00:52:13.099 --> 00:52:16.139
you got to work for that. All I have to do is

00:52:16.139 --> 00:52:20.079
not do that. But but she's like, no, listen,

00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:22.300
I'm not I'm not you're not going to buy my silence,

00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:25.679
which is awesome. Because quite frankly, too

00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:29.260
many dudes are pieces of shit. Yeah. To ladies

00:52:29.260 --> 00:52:33.800
and scare them. into not speaking about it. Good

00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:36.019
for her, man. She's setting an example for younger

00:52:36.019 --> 00:52:39.079
women, like, don't take men's shit. Don't let

00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:41.699
them pay you off. But let's step back a minute

00:52:41.699 --> 00:52:44.679
and talk about this flag burning thing, because

00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:48.260
this, this is a shot, I don't even want to say

00:52:48.260 --> 00:52:51.019
across the bow, this is a shot into the side

00:52:51.019 --> 00:52:54.320
of the fucking boat. And he's picking a fight,

00:52:54.539 --> 00:52:57.340
not with Brianna anymore, but with Barstool.

00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:00.659
which is Dave Portnoy. And Dave Portnoy, that's

00:53:00.659 --> 00:53:03.260
like hitting a hornet's nest. Because he doesn't

00:53:03.260 --> 00:53:05.880
give a shit. It's like hitting all the hornet's

00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:09.539
nest. At once. Yes. Here's the thing about Dave

00:53:09.539 --> 00:53:14.159
Portnoy. He is the most I don't give a fuck.

00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:18.639
I will burn it all down for somebody who besmirches

00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:21.179
my name motherfucker on the planet. Yeah. Dave

00:53:21.179 --> 00:53:24.900
Portnoy is a guy who has bottles of expensive

00:53:24.900 --> 00:53:28.820
champagne on a shelf. with his enemy's name on

00:53:28.820 --> 00:53:32.840
them. So when he takes them down, he pops a celebratory

00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:35.980
bottle. That's great. That's how fucking vindictive

00:53:35.980 --> 00:53:38.659
this guy is. I don't know if he's a guy I could

00:53:38.659 --> 00:53:40.380
ever hang out with. Maybe I could. Maybe we'd

00:53:40.380 --> 00:53:42.099
be best friends. Maybe we'd be enemies. I'd love

00:53:42.099 --> 00:53:44.340
to. We'd eat a lot of pizza. Yeah, I'd love to.

00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:47.900
Can eat pizza all day, every day. I respect that

00:53:47.900 --> 00:53:52.139
he is not afraid to say how he feels or who he

00:53:52.139 --> 00:53:54.719
offends. No. I mean, truly, because people say

00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:57.289
that. I don't care. But they do. He doesn't give

00:53:57.289 --> 00:54:00.690
a fuck. And I've seen him go on and bitch about,

00:54:00.690 --> 00:54:03.869
you know, liberals and, you know, he's pro -Trump.

00:54:03.969 --> 00:54:06.409
And then when Trump has done things, I've seen

00:54:06.409 --> 00:54:08.570
him go on and trash Trump and say, you know,

00:54:08.570 --> 00:54:10.489
I was wrong about this. And I respect when someone

00:54:10.489 --> 00:54:12.710
can at least say, hey, I was... He's one of those

00:54:12.710 --> 00:54:15.630
guys where you might not like him, and that's

00:54:15.630 --> 00:54:17.969
okay, but he is never a guy that you can say

00:54:17.969 --> 00:54:20.030
you don't understand where he stands or that

00:54:20.030 --> 00:54:21.769
he's fake. And that's something that I honestly

00:54:21.769 --> 00:54:24.230
respect, even in people that maybe I don't completely

00:54:24.230 --> 00:54:28.739
agree with. If you're a guy who I know is honest,

00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:33.880
you know, even in their anger, that's somebody

00:54:33.880 --> 00:54:35.280
that I have a little bit of respect for. And

00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:37.260
he even does it in his pizza ratings. He doesn't

00:54:37.260 --> 00:54:39.340
hand out nines and tens. I don't think I've ever

00:54:39.340 --> 00:54:42.820
seen him hand out a ten. He's like that in everything.

00:54:42.820 --> 00:54:45.019
He's not afraid to be like, it's good. Yeah.

00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:51.159
So with that in mind, I don't know what Zach

00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:54.940
Brian is like. I don't know what is. Intention

00:54:54.940 --> 00:54:56.800
here is clearly he doesn't have great judgment.

00:54:57.139 --> 00:55:00.460
No in a terrible golf swing Why why the shot

00:55:00.460 --> 00:55:02.420
at Barstool? I mean I get that she works there,

00:55:02.420 --> 00:55:04.800
but had they said something about her him or

00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:07.539
did he just go? The conversation's been going

00:55:07.539 --> 00:55:10.079
you know on and of course they're their team

00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:13.760
okay their girl as they should be But I think

00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:16.820
he knows what he did I don't know we're gonna

00:55:16.820 --> 00:55:20.500
find out or here's the other side to that Or

00:55:20.500 --> 00:55:22.000
this is literally the only thing that's kept

00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:25.219
him relevant See there's always that element

00:55:25.219 --> 00:55:27.780
of I don't really care that much, but I'm gonna

00:55:27.780 --> 00:55:29.659
make a big stink I mean I personally can't name

00:55:29.659 --> 00:55:32.460
a single Zach Bryan song, but that's cuz I don't

00:55:32.460 --> 00:55:35.480
listen to that genre I don't know where he stands

00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:39.179
in that I know he Was a big name in country is

00:55:39.179 --> 00:55:41.440
yeah, I don't know name. There's a loop line.

00:55:41.460 --> 00:55:44.860
He's gone down. I Mean all these fuckers blur

00:55:44.860 --> 00:55:47.059
together. Yeah, they look like you with the hat

00:55:47.059 --> 00:55:48.559
backwards I couldn't you could put them in a

00:55:48.559 --> 00:55:51.019
police lineup And I couldn't pick the fucking

00:55:51.019 --> 00:55:53.800
- Jason Aldean, Zach Bryan, Luke Bryan. I couldn't

00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:56.980
pick the Save a Horse Ride a Cowboy from Tear

00:55:56.980 --> 00:55:59.960
in My Beer. That's way old, that's fucking -

00:55:59.960 --> 00:56:02.059
I want way back. I'll go even with that. That's

00:56:02.059 --> 00:56:05.400
some Hank. Anyway - Little Thunder Row. In the

00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:07.559
lightning stride. No, that's Garth Brooks. He

00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:09.500
had talent. Yeah, I like Garth. Yeah, dude, he's

00:56:09.500 --> 00:56:12.679
the whole Kogan of - Not off the field, but -

00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:15.000
He's the guy of country. Yeah, let's not go there.

00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:16.940
No, he's a good guy. He's a good guy. Anyway

00:56:16.940 --> 00:56:20.329
- I love Garth Brooks. Wild times, we will keep

00:56:20.329 --> 00:56:22.769
you abreast of all that happens because, you

00:56:22.769 --> 00:56:25.190
know, you've got to have a celebrity gossip segment.

00:56:25.449 --> 00:56:27.429
Dude, I got to tell you, when you said you want

00:56:27.429 --> 00:56:29.150
to talk about some celebrity gossip before we

00:56:29.150 --> 00:56:32.530
went on, I was like, OK. You got me hooked. Now

00:56:32.530 --> 00:56:35.489
I'm invested in the story. We've got to follow

00:56:35.489 --> 00:56:38.030
this through. We've got to see it through. Stay

00:56:38.030 --> 00:56:41.230
tuned for more. But I think that's probably all

00:56:41.230 --> 00:56:44.090
we got for today. I mean, we had a full plate

00:56:44.090 --> 00:56:46.090
today. We got any guests tomorrow? Tomorrow we

00:56:46.090 --> 00:56:48.219
do. What do we have tomorrow? Danny, who do we

00:56:48.219 --> 00:56:54.320
have tomorrow? Oh, dude, we have Max Kessler,

00:56:54.840 --> 00:56:57.920
the actor who was on Syracuse .com. He played

00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:00.619
Adam Sandler. Oh, yeah. I don't want to say stunt

00:57:00.619 --> 00:57:02.119
double, because he wasn't really doing stunts.

00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:04.400
He was his body double. Body double, that is,

00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:07.280
for a montage in Happy Gilmore 2, where he's

00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:08.619
showing the old Sandler, because he kind of looks

00:57:08.619 --> 00:57:11.260
like Sandler. He went to SU. We talked about

00:57:11.260 --> 00:57:13.639
this yesterday. He's an actor in New York City

00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:17.190
now. And he got right back to me, dude. I emailed

00:57:17.190 --> 00:57:18.150
him. I said I'd love to have you on the show.

00:57:18.230 --> 00:57:19.949
He's like, I'm in. I'll do it remote. So we have

00:57:19.949 --> 00:57:22.710
him on tomorrow. Nice. So now I have an excuse

00:57:22.710 --> 00:57:24.889
to say, kids, leave the room. I have to watch

00:57:24.889 --> 00:57:28.250
Happy Gilmore 2 tonight for work, for business.

00:57:28.710 --> 00:57:31.530
For business. Business. All right. Well, with

00:57:31.530 --> 00:57:33.849
that, it is Good News York sponsored by ads on

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00:57:36.250 --> 00:57:39.150
Matt Mazer, we love you and we will see you tomorrow.

00:57:39.329 --> 00:57:39.889
Peace out.