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All right, good Monday. Happy Monday. Oh, good

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Monday too. Mike Brindisi here. Good news York

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kicking off the week brought to you by ads on

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the go get ads on the go calm Shout out to our

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man Zach. I am flying solo this week Matt went

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on vacation I don't know some some island that

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some socialite used to go to it's been in the

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news I don't know he's visiting so it's gonna

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be me and Danny producing and I'm gonna get right

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into it One of my favorite people is coming on

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the show today He's a friend of mine. He is the

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founder of Homebrewed Comedy, the Homebrewed

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Comedy Circuit, which I'm very honored to be

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a part of. Mr. Mike Peters is here. Let's bring

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him on. Bring him on. That is a lousy applause.

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I love that. Thank you. I know. It's such a weak...

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I just... I watch these shows where they bring

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the guests on and everybody, but they have a

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full crew and it... Yeah. It's almost like if

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someone tips you... like 50 cents if you're a

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server and you're like, you know what? No tip

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would have been better than 50 cents. Maybe I

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shouldn't clap. You know what? I am a sucker

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for any adulation. Yes. So, like, if you give

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me... Oh, listen, not every clap is good to have.

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But if you give me a small one, then I'm happy.

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So I'm fine with it. Mike, as you and I both

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know, comedians have holes inside of us that

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can never truly be filled. No, no. Dude, I just

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did a show outside of a racetrack at Tiger Downs.

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Okay. And, like, we had, like, I mean, there

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were a bunch of people there, but, I mean, they

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just lost money on a horse race, and they don't

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expect to see a comedian. So, like, a few people

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paid attention, and all I needed was a few people

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to pay attention to me. And I had a fantastic

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night. Dude, that's right. And, uh, that is a

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hilarious... Just when you think you've heard

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all the stories... of like stand -up comedy shows

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and all the different crazy shit that can happen.

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I never thought of doing one post -horse race

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where everybody wants to kill themselves because

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they lost their money. That is... No man, neither

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did I and the guy got a hold of me and he was

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like, I organized it for him last time and all

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it is like for for six people last time they

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had to do like three minutes between horse races

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like And so I'm like, well, I'm busy, so I can't

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do that. And he got to hold me this time. He

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was like, hey, we're thinking about changing

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up a little bit. And if you're free, we need

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someone to headline it. And I'm like, yeah, I

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can do that. So I got 20 minutes between races

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eight and nine. And I'm like, you know what?

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That's fine. The other two guys got three minutes,

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which is harder to do. And that's shorter than

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the horse race. Pretty much, yeah. And so what

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they did is they had the horse race, and they

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replayed the horse race. And then they had the

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comedian on the big screen. And then, you know,

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they were basically, you had to stay isolated.

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You can't move around. You can't do crowd work,

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really, because nobody can hear you and the horses

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don't talk back. So that's useless. So like that

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three minutes done and then they'll give you

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a wrap up side of done. So I, I walked down there

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and I've got like, I'm headlining it. So my picture

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is the only one down there and they're advertising

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to go stay for headline and Mike Peters. Which

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is really nice. But I'm thinking like, they do

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not care about me. But not at all. You can say

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my name. I can be Jim Gaff again. And suddenly

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they're not going to be like, they're going to

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be mad. Yeah. Like they just lost race eight.

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Yeah, right. I'm just going to let them out next.

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But it was fun and they paid me and I'm good.

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So, you know, I get to go home. I saw your pictures

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from that. I was wondering what the video screen

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was. So were they performing to a crowd in front

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of them or were they just alone in a room? What?

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Yeah, so we were on the track and they were in

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front of a cameraman. Oh, and there's like a

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director there who gives you the microphone and

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they're broadcasting us like we're telling jokes

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to the people on the track like the. Yes, in

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the grandstands. Yes, now I get it. And then

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like a few people are coming down to watch like

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I had like maybe ten people come down the stairs

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to watch me closer. So which is whatever a compliment,

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but we're also broadcast on the big screen the

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jumbotron in the you know where they do the replays

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of the horses and everything. Yeah, so they're

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gonna be following everything and then we're

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also broadcast into the casino not the casino

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part, but like the the dining room right and

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everything else. So like we can be heard. But

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like, that means almost nothing to any comedian

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who just wants to hear the feedback of the audience.

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I love you. I mean, you want to talk about paying

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your dues. You've done anything and everything

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you can to make shows work. And this goes back,

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and we've probably talked about this. I know

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I've talked about it countless times on the show.

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It might have been with you. How just certain

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people think that you can just do a comedy show

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anywhere, anytime, and it's completely going

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to translate. Man, I saw this past, I don't know,

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six months ago, three people from SNL, Colin

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Jost, headlined at Cornell. And they did it in

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this big airplane hangar called Barton Hall.

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Amazing place to go see concerts. But as you

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know, a lot of times, comedy is intimate. Like

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you hear about comedians that, like a Bill Burr

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type or, you know, back in the day, Dane Cook,

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who went on to do stadiums, right, or arenas.

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And they're like, you know, even at my level,

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I hate doing arenas because you don't a lot of

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times you got to be in like within proximity

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to see facial expressions and it just it doesn't

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connect. So being on a horse track, just like

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talking to a camera. I mean, I just feel like

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that is you are up against it, man. God bless

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you guys. Yeah, it's a little different because

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like any more like I'd say within the last six

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or eight months, I. I haven't changed my act,

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really. I mean, it's always evolving, and I've

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got different material. But like, me as a comedian,

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the biggest change I've made is that I now talk

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to the audience a little bit more to set up a

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joke, or to like, maybe I don't know how to start

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a joke. And I'm like, all right, well, if I talk

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to the audience, I'll have a conversation, maybe

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it'll be funny, and then I can dive into that

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joke, and they will know I don't have a beginning

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to it. Right, right, right, right. Like I'm working

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a bit now and I didn't do it on Saturday, but

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I, I do host trivia now and like I had to do

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Star Wars trivia and I don't know Star Wars.

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So I didn't have a beginning to this joke. And

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like, how do I get into that? Like, do you like

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Star Wars? Do you not? Has anybody not seen it?

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So I'm like, I just figured screw it. I'll ask.

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And I asked the audience like who here has never

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seen Star Wars and like very few people. will

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raise their hand. And somebody will. I'm like,

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why? And I'll ask a question because I want to

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know, like, the reason I haven't seen it is because

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people keep telling me I have to see it. And

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I like it's like that punk rock, like anti. Yes.

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I don't want to be part of the trend. Yes. So

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I'm like, that's why that's because this reaction,

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because you're mad right now. That's why I'm

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never going to see it. That's it. And the joke

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I wanted to start with is like, you know, and

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I think it's a good joke, but like I've never

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seen Star Wars, but I've seen Spaceballs, which

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is the Cliff Notes version of Star Wars. Yeah,

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it's great. Like, if I'm quizzed on it, I think

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I could pass the test. But if we get the conversation,

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I'm screwed. Yeah. So what happened was, at the

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trivia, the joke is like, if you ever want to

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make a Star Wars fan mad, all you have to do

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is... mispronounced something from their little

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fantasy world. And it's like, so I'm like joking

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around and I'm like, they have a thing, like

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a town or a borough or whatever called Tatooine.

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I don't know what it is, but I think of the planet

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or a city on the planet, whatever. And the first

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thing I did at a trivia night, where I didn't

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write the questions, I hadn't written for me,

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was I had to say Tatooine, but I mispronounced

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it and I called it Tatoonie. Which like everybody

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was mad at me. Yeah, you had a riot right right

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away and So like it's just I'm like you haven't

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felt the you haven't lived until you felt the

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ire Yeah, he dorks dude. I'm a hundred percent

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with you I Every time like a lot of the guys

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I work with here are big Star Wars fans, and

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I don't make fun of them. I almost envy it I'm

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like it's like religion like I envy anyone's

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really like I wish I could love Star Wars, but

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I just don't Do you know? Okay. So I don't think

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it's our fault necessarily. Okay. I think you

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and I, because we're, you're 42, right? Yes.

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Same age. Yeah. Allegedly. So I think we missed

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it. I think we missed it. We, because if you

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think about it, Star Wars, like they were really

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big in the mid seventies, like to early eighties,

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right? It is true. We were born in 83. Right.

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So like, and then we, obviously the moves are

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always there, but like the resurgence. was when

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we were in high school. So if we didn't latch

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on there, we were too old for the toys. Hundred

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percent. So I think like we were like really

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in the baseball. Dude! Or women or whatever.

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And Star Wars even then was still like a dork

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thing for me at least. It was. So I think we

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just was like my brother is six years younger

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than me. Loves Star Wars. Because he was like

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the prime age for the marketing. You are so -

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I think that's part of it. And then there's always

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that, like, oh, I don't need to watch it. If

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I don't want to watch it, you can't make me.

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Right. But we absolutely could have gone back.

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But I really think our generation, our age especially,

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kind of missed it a little bit. Dude, that checks

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out because I've also said before that, do you

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ever notice that all your heroes, whether it's

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athletes or actors, whatever, singers, If you

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go back, you're like, oh, man, all the ones that

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I'm, like, truly, like, obsessed with, right,

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are when I was, like, from 12 to 17. Oh, yeah.

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Yeah. So if you miss that window with something,

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it's never gonna catch on like it does with some

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people. I'll do you one better. If you could

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think about it, like, let's pretend that you

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love your wife and your family, okay? Whatever.

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Let's pretend. Let's just pretend I do. But,

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okay. Okay. What do you think your favorite years

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of, like, if you can go back and repeat a couple

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years, what do you think it would be? You could

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go live them again. Well, certainly not the newborn

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years. I would say, like, right now, my son is

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five or six. So I would say from, like, three

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to six, seven, like, you know, with the innocence

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and the, you know, hilarity. Yeah. I think for

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me, it's like... that it's the 12, that's 10

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to 12. Okay. Because if you think about it, and

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it's kind of like that, we had no responsibility.

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Like all we had to do was go to school, come

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home safely, hopefully, uh, and then play with

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all your friends, watch TV. We had, we had no,

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no girl problems. Nope. We had no bills to pay.

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We had no job. I mean, those are my favorite

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years. And then you go back and you're like,

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okay, well that for me, it was like 1993. So

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like, let's say 96, 97, like that era, it's where

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all of my favorite TV shows are. That's where

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all of my favorite music is. That's where all

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of my favorite movies are. I mean, it's like

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that, I think we hold onto that so dearly. You

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are, you're dead, I screwed up. That's one of

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our favorite years. I thought you were asking

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me as a parent, what are my favorite years of

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my kid? Oh, no, no, no. No, and I'm not just

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saying this to hop on. If, if I had... answered

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that correctly I would have said anywhere from

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like 8 to 12 years old because I'm too young

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to get all caught up in chicks you know I just

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want to play with my friends watch TV listen

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to music and I've always said if I could relive

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from like 1992 to 1997 over and over at this

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age I totally would I mean everything everything

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was in its prime I've said this before like music

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every genre was in its prime pop you had Mariah

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Carey Whitney Houston country you had Garth Brooks

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Alan Jackson Hip -hop, Dre, Snoop, I mean, the

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movies, the box office movies, Independence Day,

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you know, Jim Carrey was, like, everything was

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just fucking awesome, man. Sandler, I mean, you

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think about 94, like, for music and TV, music

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and movies, I mean, those are glorious, 92, 94,

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96. Yep. Like, I am a firm believer that the

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90s were probably the best decade, and... We

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peaked. I don't know... It's really pathetic,

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because I go back and I'm arrested there. I'm

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just there. So my girlfriend and I will talk

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about pretty celebrities, like sexy celebrities.

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I will always go back to the 90s. Jennifer Aniston.

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I don't know why. Is it always Jennifer? Yeah.

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It's the Jennifer of some sort. But Alicia Silverstone.

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I cannot... Kelly Cabal or Tiffany Ann Batista.

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But I cannot... not think of somebody from the

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90s. That's such a, you know, my grandfather

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used to do that. Like, I remember being a kid

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and being like, you know, he'd be like, oh, I

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remember Scarlett Grace Johnson. She was a real

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hottie. And I'm like, she was a hottie. What

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are you talking? She used to show her ankles

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on camera. You know what I mean? You have grandma.

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Yeah, exactly. So I think we're just doing what

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our parents and grandparents did, which is like,

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our time was the best time. But I really think

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the 90s were. I really do. I don't know. Anyway,

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I could talk. I could do it. By the way, this

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just means we're old. I know. I fucking know.

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I know. Dude, I walked an 18 hole golf course.

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I did a charity golf event with some Buffalo

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Bills media guys a couple of weeks ago. Walked

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18 holes as a caddy and the next day I woke up

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and I was like an old German Shepherd with hip

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dysplasia like I I Couldn't like I couldn't move

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and I'm like all I did was walk like what the

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fuck is going on Anyway, I don't like my girlfriend.

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I just went to a concert last night. We saw newfound

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glory. Yeah has an all swing and So good, but

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like we got we were in the field like the lawn.

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Yeah cheap we were in the lawn for Newfound glory

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and you know we were there for a storm and everything

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and then somebody came around with upgraded tickets

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because they wanted to fill the amphitheater

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so we got in there and so we're in seats now

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and i mean we're we're standing to watch gme

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world we're standing to watch the offspring but

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like every four or five songs we sat down and

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my girlfriend we're in the car she goes yeah

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i wanted to stand up but i couldn't i go babe

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We're just not young anymore Like it's it's not

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that like we're out of shape, which you know,

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I need to lose weight for sure But it's like

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we're just our bones. So yes, it's not working

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You know, it's not you know, we don't we don't

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want to stand we don't we don't want to get up

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and get the remote You know, it just it it's

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just science really. I'm so glad you went to

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that show That's another amazing thing about

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the 90s was the pop punk era which you and I

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are in love with So if you had to, I hate doing

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this, but if you had to pick, so it was Newfound

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Glory, Offspring, and Jimmy E. World, right?

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Yeah. So who was your, like, who do you think

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was the best? Or like, was it just all perfect?

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I think, man, it's hard to say because... Who

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were you there to see, really? All of them or

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was there a... I, in order, I would have gone

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to see the Offspring, then Newfound Glory, then

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Jimmy E. World. Okay. I think Jimmy E. World

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probably sounded... Man, it was Jimmy World and

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Newfound Willard's Time of the Best. Offspring,

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they really needed to raise Dexter Holland's

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vocals. Okay. Because we couldn't hear a few

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songs. They're older. At least two of them, like

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Noodles and Dexter are in their 50s at least.

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They didn't want to be standing either. They

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were old. No, Dexter brought us a piano so you

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could sit for like four minutes. Exactly. So

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we're vibing there. My favorite of the three

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bands is the Offspring. Okay. And I think maybe

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if Newfound glory could have played a headline

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set, you know, they probably would have been

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the best band of the night, but they only played

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eight songs. Right. So and Jimmy world, I'm just

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not as big a fan of their music. I love the music.

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I just don't know it as well. So I know three

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albums pretty well. And the other was I'm like,

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all right. And I tried to track set lists that

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I'm like having to like hang on to like three

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or four consecutive words. Yeah. Then Google

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that with Jimmy world on the song. Yeah. So But

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they were great. I made a joke on Facebook, but

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I was watching GMA World and one of the, I don't

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know if he's a regular member or a touring member,

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but he had like a horseshoe ball pattern. Oh.

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And I'm like, I think the joke was like, there

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comes a point where all of our favorite musicians

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look like our 10th grade history teacher and

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nobody's ready for it. It's true because it seemed

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like if any of your teachers were going to be

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like, Semi hip and edgy. It would be the history

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teacher Like if they were gonna have any sort

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of it wouldn't be the English teacher It wouldn't

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be the math. It would be it would definitely

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be the history. It certainly wouldn't be the

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math teacher No, hell no. They're all girls dorks.

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No. Yeah I I'll be honest Jimmy world. I I found

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them late when they came out with it was a bleed

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American. Yeah Yeah, that that is what I that

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might be in my top ten favorite albums of all

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time. I so good they are That album is unbelievable,

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and I heard a rumor I should fact -check it now

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that we have the the interweb But I had heard

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that that Tom DeLong from blink 182 Actually

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had found them like I don't know if he discovered

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them and got him signed But he was like a fan

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himself and like he invited Jimmy World to play

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his own birthday party and then they ended up

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blowing up but Yeah, I'm a big blink fan and

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and Jimmy World's amazing I know they, I think

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they timed along Mark Hoppus' list, Jimmy Eat

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World's influences, so the timeline probably,

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it might sync up, but I'm not sure. But they're

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both from California, I believe. No, Jimmy Eat

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World's Arizona. Oh yeah, you're right, you're

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right. They're Arizona, but yeah, I got a chance

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to see an Alan Blanken out, as I always do. I

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forget the singer's name for Jimmy Eat World,

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but - Jim Eakins. Thank you. He came to Ithaca

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in like 2011, maybe 12, 13, somewhere in there.

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On a Sunday night, he came to play The Haunt.

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It was a Sunday night show. There was probably

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40 people there. And he, it was just the coolest

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move. He walks in, like literally walk, there's

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no opening act. There's one little light on him.

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He walks in. sets his amp down, plugs it in,

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takes his guitar out of the guitar case, puts

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it on, tunes up, and just plays. No roadie, no

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intro music. It was just like he came in off

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the street, and I just thought, and it was a

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great show, and I just thought it was the coolest

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fucking move, man. And then after the show, he

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came out and just was talking to everybody, and

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I was just like, this is amazing. I saw Elko

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and Trio years ago in Baltimore. So good, live.

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But the opener was Cursive. I don't know if you've

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ever heard Cursive. No. But they're awesome.

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They're an indie band from, like, I think Omaha.

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Okay. And they're now the ugly organ that is

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just a masterpiece. And they're just, like, a

00:21:02.009 --> 00:21:05.950
little bit prog, but, like, they're dark, just

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fantastic. But they came on and didn't say a

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word. And then they played, like, 12 songs. 14

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songs, whatever, like you're on stage for like

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a half an hour, 35 minutes, and then didn't do

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any banter at all. And if you're used to like

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a blank shell, like we grew up to that, like

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they're going to say fuck every once in a while,

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they're going to swear. Hey, Mark, your mom jerked

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me off. You don't say nothing. Nothing. So the

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only words they said outside of the songs were,

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thanks, good night. And I thought that was awesome.

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You know, like Oh my god, that's like the the

00:21:40.349 --> 00:21:41.930
quiet cool thing, you know You don't need to

00:21:41.930 --> 00:21:43.930
impress you you make a good point cuz like when

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I was playing music with my band I was always

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a banter guy like blink, you know, I love Yeah,

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I know I love to interact with the audience the

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whole thing, but then I would go to shows like

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Incubus and Dave Matthews band where they barely

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talk and they kind of keep this mysteriousness

00:22:02.009 --> 00:22:04.309
about him and I always thought that is such a

00:22:04.309 --> 00:22:06.470
cool fucking move But I just I could never do

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that I could never do that. I don't think I could

00:22:08.190 --> 00:22:10.950
either. If I was, I know I couldn't. You couldn't.

00:22:11.029 --> 00:22:13.950
No way. Not with a comedian in you. There's no

00:22:13.950 --> 00:22:16.210
way. But I think like, it's not even that. It's

00:22:16.210 --> 00:22:19.809
like, I don't like silence at all. Like, and

00:22:19.809 --> 00:22:21.569
yeah, that's hardly okay. Well, I need laughter,

00:22:21.769 --> 00:22:24.589
but like, if I'm in my house, I need sound. Yeah.

00:22:24.890 --> 00:22:27.549
I need TikTok video. I need, I need TV in the

00:22:27.549 --> 00:22:29.549
background. Something. I need something. Music.

00:22:29.730 --> 00:22:33.869
Yeah. If I edit a podcast, I am watching... a

00:22:33.869 --> 00:22:36.569
Mets game that I haven't seen or Boy Meets World

00:22:36.569 --> 00:22:39.349
is on. Like, I need something to draw my focus

00:22:39.349 --> 00:22:41.609
away. Like, it's something that I've seen before

00:22:41.609 --> 00:22:45.089
or whatever. Like, I just have to have something

00:22:45.089 --> 00:22:48.089
where I look down at my phone and I don't want

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to hear nothing. Right. You're not, like, watching

00:22:50.450 --> 00:22:52.670
Law and Order SVU or you got to really pay attention

00:22:52.670 --> 00:22:56.349
to the plot. Well, now I would because I've memorized

00:22:56.349 --> 00:22:59.150
every episode. Oh, you're one of those? Yeah.

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My girlfriend and I would go to sleep to it.

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Dude. We actually, I wish I had known, we have

00:23:03.420 --> 00:23:06.039
it here. Matt surprised me with a, he got me

00:23:06.039 --> 00:23:08.500
the Law and Order gavel that goes bom bom when

00:23:08.500 --> 00:23:10.200
you hit it. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, yeah. But

00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:14.339
I do have this. I have the... He got me a sad

00:23:14.339 --> 00:23:18.599
trombone as well. Dude, I used to say I could

00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:21.339
write a pop punk song at any moment. Like, I

00:23:21.339 --> 00:23:23.839
used to do it in the van with the band. I would

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have my guitar and I'd be like, give me a topic.

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Actually, give me a topic. Just give me a topic

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real quick. It could be anything. Hardwood floors.

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Great. All right. I was riding around on my hardwood

00:23:38.859 --> 00:23:45.059
floors, hardwood floors. Hardwood, hard the floor.

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Hardwood, it's hardwood floor. All right, maybe

00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:52.140
that wasn't great, but... Well, you had the spirit.

00:23:52.259 --> 00:23:55.180
You just got to get the hook in there and then

00:23:55.180 --> 00:23:58.380
you're set. But... Also, I thought of a good

00:23:58.380 --> 00:24:00.799
way, if you do another Star Wars joke, just be

00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:02.940
like, maybe this is kind of hacky. I don't know.

00:24:03.380 --> 00:24:06.799
Just be like, hey, who here are Star Wars fans?

00:24:06.940 --> 00:24:08.460
And then whoever raises their hand be like, well,

00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:11.819
now we know where the virgins are. I mean, that's

00:24:11.819 --> 00:24:14.440
a softball. But anyway, let's talk about what

00:24:14.440 --> 00:24:17.539
you actually came for. It used to be. That used

00:24:17.539 --> 00:24:20.660
to be it. Now people watch Star Wars. They get

00:24:20.660 --> 00:24:23.880
laid because they've seen Star Wars. They actually

00:24:23.880 --> 00:24:27.259
fuck while watching Star Wars now. No. OK, wait,

00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:30.119
my amazing producer Danny just brought this.

00:24:31.299 --> 00:24:36.299
Oh, wait, hold on. Is it broke? Oh, did you hear

00:24:36.299 --> 00:24:38.960
it? Oh, the coughing. I got to get you one. I'm

00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:40.720
going to get you one and send it to you. Oh,

00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:43.740
that's fantastic. But anyway, enough about my

00:24:43.740 --> 00:24:46.420
bullshit. Oh, I'm sorry. So you can see this.

00:24:46.619 --> 00:24:49.759
I forgot I had this. It's a hat that says executive

00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:54.079
producer dude That hat is way cooler if you know

00:24:54.079 --> 00:24:57.259
what that's all about because in that era every

00:24:57.259 --> 00:25:00.500
great crime show every great drama Finished with

00:25:00.500 --> 00:25:03.799
executive producer Dick Wolf, and I'll go a step

00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:07.740
further music by Mike Post You know okay, so

00:25:07.740 --> 00:25:10.480
do you know what other famous show Mike Post

00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:14.640
did oh? I do I do There's a bunch, but like the

00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:17.680
one that I'm thinking of is I go ahead go ahead

00:25:17.900 --> 00:25:26.059
Doogie Howser Lum Doogie, dude, he was a fucking

00:25:26.059 --> 00:25:31.599
wrecking ball He gets paid for don't don't dumb

00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:36.380
the whole thing makes money. Yeah. Oh I dropped

00:25:36.380 --> 00:25:39.680
it But he's getting royalties every time he had

00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:43.819
that gavel. It's amazing. Um, oh to be Mike Post

00:25:43.819 --> 00:25:47.880
so The reason we're having you on other than

00:25:47.819 --> 00:25:50.039
because we love you and we love homebrewed comedy,

00:25:50.259 --> 00:25:53.579
which seems to be going great. You've you've

00:25:53.579 --> 00:25:56.740
you know, I've watched the homebrewed comedy

00:25:56.740 --> 00:25:59.759
circuit kind of keep growing. I mean, I've been

00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:02.079
a part of it. So I I've experienced it firsthand,

00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:04.619
but also watching from social media, seeing how

00:26:04.619 --> 00:26:07.400
much the roster of comedians has grown and the

00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:09.819
venues and how you're traveling farther. But

00:26:09.819 --> 00:26:12.119
you started to do these. I think I'm saying it

00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:13.940
right. These don't tell comedy shows. Is that

00:26:13.940 --> 00:26:16.039
what's been going on? Yep. Don't tell comedy.

00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:19.460
So tell me, so don't tell me, but actually tell

00:26:19.460 --> 00:26:22.940
me about these don't tell comedy shows. So they're

00:26:22.940 --> 00:26:26.839
secret shows. So they're running all over the

00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:30.359
nation, say 150 plus cities, probably more than

00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:34.400
that now. But basically what it is is like you

00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:37.319
get a showcase, you got four or five comedians

00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:40.319
on a show, sometimes more, but usually four is

00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:43.460
the minimum. And you don't know where the location

00:26:43.460 --> 00:26:46.460
is. You don't know what the lineup is. You buy

00:26:46.460 --> 00:26:51.400
a ticket, 25 bucks, and on the day of the show,

00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:54.619
like 24 hours, you will get an email saying,

00:26:54.839 --> 00:26:59.039
hey, we're at Dunkin' Donuts on Main Street,

00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:03.420
let's say. And then you show up there at 6 .30

00:27:03.420 --> 00:27:07.200
for a seven o 'clock show and you've got sound

00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:10.240
equipment, lighting, you've got a nice little

00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:14.339
don't tell sign, and you've got 50 of your closest

00:27:14.339 --> 00:27:18.230
comedy buddies. there to see the show. And it's

00:27:18.230 --> 00:27:22.930
just a really cool environment. And we're basically

00:27:22.930 --> 00:27:26.829
bringing comedy shows where they're not usually,

00:27:27.369 --> 00:27:29.829
they usually aren't art. Right. Let me try that

00:27:29.829 --> 00:27:32.069
again. Let me, in English, we're bringing comedy

00:27:32.069 --> 00:27:34.309
shows to places that we're not used to seeing

00:27:34.309 --> 00:27:36.250
them. Did you just have a stroke? Are you okay?

00:27:36.890 --> 00:27:39.329
I had a lot of strokes. Yeah. Okay. It's been,

00:27:39.329 --> 00:27:41.089
it's been rough. It's fair. Rough couple of years,

00:27:41.269 --> 00:27:44.440
but no, it's... They're, they're fun. The energy

00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:48.279
is usually really high. They show us their secrets.

00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:51.799
So like the audience you get as a comedian, the

00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:54.240
audience you get, they want to laugh. They want

00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:56.480
to be part of this. They have no idea what they

00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:00.059
expect. You could have comedians and I've booked

00:28:00.059 --> 00:28:02.559
comedians on the shows from Philly, New York

00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:06.019
city, Boston, and then Syracuse, like local guys

00:28:06.019 --> 00:28:09.420
too. So you never really know who you're going

00:28:09.420 --> 00:28:12.940
to see. And the good part would like. Like, I'm

00:28:12.940 --> 00:28:16.019
bringing one of the shows to Syracuse. Good part

00:28:16.019 --> 00:28:19.160
is, like, you might get comedians who are at

00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:22.019
the FunnyVone at the show. Sure. Like, feature

00:28:22.019 --> 00:28:25.240
acts, hosts, I mean, I don't know, headliners,

00:28:25.619 --> 00:28:28.000
but we'll see if they have time. But, like, you

00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:31.000
have no idea who's showing up. But what you do

00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:33.259
know is that you're gonna get a really fucking

00:28:33.259 --> 00:28:35.160
good show. That's awesome. And you know what

00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:36.859
I love about it, too, other than, I mean, the

00:28:36.859 --> 00:28:39.539
whole gimmick of a don't tell is awesome. But

00:28:39.539 --> 00:28:43.099
it's very hard nowadays to create any sort of

00:28:43.099 --> 00:28:46.799
anticipation. Unless you're like a crazy like,

00:28:46.859 --> 00:28:48.839
again, like a Bill Burr or some huge comedian.

00:28:49.380 --> 00:28:51.539
You know, at this level with up and coming comedians,

00:28:51.579 --> 00:28:53.359
it's hard to create anticipation because not

00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:56.019
everybody knows. So I just like that it creates

00:28:56.019 --> 00:28:58.619
this natural anticipation of like, oh, man, who

00:28:58.619 --> 00:29:00.940
are we going to see? Is this something you came

00:29:00.940 --> 00:29:02.599
up with or is this a nation? Because you said

00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:07.589
nationwide. How does that work? So I just. applied.

00:29:07.950 --> 00:29:10.710
Like my buddy Paul Spratt is a very funny comedian

00:29:10.710 --> 00:29:13.490
out of like the the Wilkes -Barre. I think it's

00:29:13.490 --> 00:29:16.210
in Lehigh Valley now, but in Pennsylvania. He

00:29:16.210 --> 00:29:18.730
started working with them and the business has

00:29:18.730 --> 00:29:22.450
been going for a few years, but basically created

00:29:22.450 --> 00:29:25.750
as a way to like, I don't know, bring some more

00:29:25.750 --> 00:29:29.089
excitement to the comedy landscape. But he helped

00:29:29.089 --> 00:29:31.130
get me involved with this. I just started working

00:29:31.130 --> 00:29:35.849
with him in January and I started producing shows

00:29:35.849 --> 00:29:38.779
in Binghamton. And I've done like two a month

00:29:38.779 --> 00:29:40.980
in Binghamton and then I just got approved for

00:29:40.980 --> 00:29:43.579
Syracuse. So they've been on, in fact, they have,

00:29:44.140 --> 00:29:47.440
I think three of the board members on Don't Tell

00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:50.299
has Syracuse ties. Like they grew up there or

00:29:50.299 --> 00:29:53.920
went to school at college. So university, I don't

00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:58.220
want to disparage it, but they, they're big proponents

00:29:58.220 --> 00:30:03.440
of like just a party atmosphere and well, professional,

00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:07.859
but they want to bring. They want to give people,

00:30:07.859 --> 00:30:11.640
uh, an alternative to club comedy. I love it.

00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:13.579
Like if you don't want to go to the funny bone

00:30:13.579 --> 00:30:15.519
and I love the funny bone, I wish they'd booked

00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:17.900
me more, but I love the funny bone. But like,

00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:20.519
if you don't want to go there and, and buy, you

00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:23.000
know, wings beer. And the cool thing was don't

00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:26.000
tell a lot of them are BYOB. So you can bring

00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:29.440
a sit back or whatever and go hang out in a yoga

00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:33.619
studio. And yeah, I mean, I've done other shows

00:30:33.619 --> 00:30:37.859
in yoga studios, coffee. shops, a jujitsu studio,

00:30:39.299 --> 00:30:43.720
you know, some bars, but like, it's just so much

00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:47.480
fun. Dude, you know, the irony, though, is that

00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:50.599
don't they know that that's kind of what the

00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:53.000
comedy scene has become, you know, at this level

00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:55.940
is like, because you're ahead of the time. I

00:30:55.940 --> 00:30:57.759
mean, you've done shows at breweries, you did

00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:00.019
shows at diet bars, you know, you kind of did

00:31:00.019 --> 00:31:03.339
that thing, you know? Yeah, but... Kind of, but

00:31:03.339 --> 00:31:05.380
their marketing campaign is much different than

00:31:05.380 --> 00:31:08.140
mine. They're a national thing. So like they

00:31:08.140 --> 00:31:12.019
can, they've got a bigger instep than I do. And,

00:31:12.019 --> 00:31:14.420
you know, it's frustrating because like I am

00:31:14.420 --> 00:31:17.920
running my independent shows at bars and breweries

00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:19.960
and I love doing that. I'm still doing that.

00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:22.819
Yeah. But the difference between the Don't Tell

00:31:22.819 --> 00:31:26.980
is that I'll get people at the Don't Tell shows

00:31:26.980 --> 00:31:30.819
who don't know that comedy is happening in Binghamton.

00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:34.579
And I want to strangle them. He was like, I've

00:31:34.579 --> 00:31:37.000
been working at it for nine years and haven't

00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:39.420
got through to that person, which is fine. You

00:31:39.420 --> 00:31:43.140
know, people find comedy in different ways. And

00:31:43.140 --> 00:31:45.160
that's kind of the magic of don't tell where,

00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.359
you know, they have, uh, you got a national campaign

00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:50.920
going. They've got a big email following. They

00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:53.960
have don't tell specials where people can find

00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:56.440
out about them, click on their link, follow them.

00:31:56.539 --> 00:31:58.920
You can subscribe to their email list and so

00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:01.009
you can get updates on. if and when the show's

00:32:01.009 --> 00:32:02.750
coming to your town. That's something I don't

00:32:02.750 --> 00:32:06.890
have. And it's just, there are different audiences.

00:32:07.109 --> 00:32:09.049
I mean, I love my audience. I love the Don't

00:32:09.049 --> 00:32:11.529
Tell audiences, but it's like a behavior thing

00:32:11.529 --> 00:32:14.450
a little bit. And I don't mean at the show, like

00:32:14.450 --> 00:32:17.329
both audiences are great, but when I'm setting

00:32:17.329 --> 00:32:19.569
up for an independent show, the Homeward show,

00:32:20.349 --> 00:32:22.369
I'm like nervous that people aren't gonna show

00:32:22.369 --> 00:32:25.450
up and they do, but they get there almost at

00:32:25.450 --> 00:32:29.109
show time. Whereas the Don't Tell, they will

00:32:29.109 --> 00:32:31.470
get there a little bit before the doors are supposed

00:32:31.470 --> 00:32:34.109
to open. And I just want to be like, why can't

00:32:34.109 --> 00:32:37.750
you do that at my shows? I know. So I'm not nervous

00:32:37.750 --> 00:32:39.930
for another half an hour that nobody's going

00:32:39.930 --> 00:32:42.210
to show up and the comedians think I'm a failure

00:32:42.210 --> 00:32:44.930
and won't ever work with me again. So they're

00:32:44.930 --> 00:32:46.470
a little bit different. I know there's a lot

00:32:46.470 --> 00:32:48.130
of reasons that I'm a failure and don't want

00:32:48.130 --> 00:32:50.289
to work with me again. But the audience could

00:32:50.289 --> 00:32:53.869
help me out. But it's just, they're two different

00:32:53.869 --> 00:32:57.309
things. And I don't know which one I prefer.

00:32:58.029 --> 00:33:02.849
Don't tell is fun. Don't tell is like It's kind

00:33:02.849 --> 00:33:05.690
of like a shot in the arm like like maybe maybe

00:33:05.690 --> 00:33:07.849
a home bridge show Didn't go as well as I want.

00:33:08.170 --> 00:33:09.670
I mean it could be happening the other way around

00:33:09.670 --> 00:33:11.849
Maybe don't tell show wasn't as good as it should

00:33:11.849 --> 00:33:14.490
have been and I need every room is different

00:33:14.490 --> 00:33:17.950
every show is different But I know they're they're

00:33:17.950 --> 00:33:20.930
total fun. I love love running it That's got

00:33:20.930 --> 00:33:22.930
to be frustrating when like you you get done

00:33:22.930 --> 00:33:25.349
with a don't tell show and in Binghamton and

00:33:25.349 --> 00:33:27.430
someone's like You know, this what's fun. You

00:33:27.430 --> 00:33:29.630
guys should do this more. You should do comedy

00:33:29.630 --> 00:33:31.509
down here and you should do this. You should

00:33:31.509 --> 00:33:34.450
be a comedian. You're like, bitch, I am. This

00:33:34.450 --> 00:33:38.069
is what I do. Like, listen, if you want me to

00:33:38.069 --> 00:33:39.829
do a show in your living room so you'll turn,

00:33:40.069 --> 00:33:42.890
I will do that. Absolutely. I just did a horse

00:33:42.890 --> 00:33:45.250
track. I know. I will do a living room show.

00:33:45.470 --> 00:33:51.410
Dude, I mean, that is wild. Listen, the don't

00:33:51.410 --> 00:33:53.049
tell thing, though, which is kind of cool. It's

00:33:53.049 --> 00:33:55.529
like you're almost like franchising, but it's

00:33:56.869 --> 00:34:00.150
I think part of the reason that maybe people,

00:34:01.190 --> 00:34:03.289
you feel like you're getting a different and

00:34:03.289 --> 00:34:05.450
kind of cooler reception with Don't Tell is,

00:34:05.750 --> 00:34:07.890
and again, it goes back to what we just talked

00:34:07.890 --> 00:34:09.510
about when I've talked about a million times.

00:34:10.050 --> 00:34:12.730
When people would, I worked at a bar where I

00:34:12.730 --> 00:34:17.130
was the assistant manager and it was a music

00:34:17.130 --> 00:34:18.849
venue, but they wanted to start doing comedy

00:34:18.849 --> 00:34:20.550
shows and they're like, we should just do comedy

00:34:20.550 --> 00:34:23.179
during happy hour. You know, I went on that whole

00:34:23.179 --> 00:34:25.340
thing about it just doesn't people aren't gonna

00:34:25.340 --> 00:34:28.340
if they're there to drink and Then the jokes

00:34:28.340 --> 00:34:30.860
are second. It doesn't you have to do a ticketed

00:34:30.860 --> 00:34:33.420
So people because what happens is people show

00:34:33.420 --> 00:34:35.719
up when they know it's a comedy show and they've

00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:38.920
paid for a ticket They without even knowing they

00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:40.820
know that they're coming to laugh So they're

00:34:40.820 --> 00:34:44.380
already ready to laugh if you just pop up a show

00:34:44.380 --> 00:34:46.400
While they're drinking they're like what what

00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:48.440
the hell is this and it could work eventually

00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:51.719
but so I think the don't tell thing it just It

00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:54.480
creates that anticipation and it gets people

00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:56.159
excited. Like, who are we going to see? Let's

00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:58.960
get there early, you know? And it works. And

00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:02.079
I think it's great. It is funny because, like,

00:35:02.179 --> 00:35:03.679
I don't know if it's difference in the audience,

00:35:03.820 --> 00:35:06.099
but, like, when... I mean, obviously, if you're

00:35:06.099 --> 00:35:11.239
paying $25, you value your time. So you want

00:35:11.239 --> 00:35:17.019
quality. And typically, when I do a show, like

00:35:17.019 --> 00:35:20.510
a free show at a bar, over $10... We don't have

00:35:20.510 --> 00:35:23.969
people who want to sit in front. The don't tell?

00:35:24.670 --> 00:35:26.429
Man, the people who get there early are getting

00:35:26.429 --> 00:35:28.929
there early to get a front seat. Oh, shit. Because

00:35:28.929 --> 00:35:31.269
they want to be part of the show. And that, I

00:35:31.269 --> 00:35:33.630
think, is different. And maybe that's because

00:35:33.630 --> 00:35:36.210
the don't tell specials they've seen, or any

00:35:36.210 --> 00:35:38.929
of the clips online, are crowd work clips. So

00:35:38.929 --> 00:35:42.070
they want to be part of that magic. But like,

00:35:42.230 --> 00:35:44.329
I don't know, the energy is a little bit different.

00:35:44.750 --> 00:35:47.449
And I think a lot of that is the monetary value

00:35:47.449 --> 00:35:50.300
that you're placing, because... they're now invested

00:35:50.300 --> 00:35:53.960
and they're having a good night. Yes. Emotionally

00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:57.679
and financially. Before I let you go, I mean,

00:35:57.679 --> 00:35:59.340
I want to hear about the shows, but I got to

00:35:59.340 --> 00:36:02.460
ask you, you talk about crowd work. So as you

00:36:02.460 --> 00:36:04.559
know, kind of the new thing, if you're a comedian,

00:36:04.739 --> 00:36:08.480
you've probably noticed that like crowd work

00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:11.179
is the new thing, you know, and a lot of the

00:36:11.179 --> 00:36:14.440
younger generations I've been told just assume

00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:16.539
that crowd work is what stand up is. And I don't

00:36:16.539 --> 00:36:18.699
know if it's that drastic. Have you noticed,

00:36:18.699 --> 00:36:20.860
because I mean, you see so many comedians with

00:36:20.860 --> 00:36:23.579
homebrewed comedy and the Don't Tell shows, are

00:36:23.579 --> 00:36:28.039
you seeing a shift in more crowd work? A little

00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:30.719
bit, but I don't know if it's a cognitive thing.

00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:34.000
Like, I know there's some comedians who are actively

00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:36.719
working on it. Yeah, I am. And the hard part

00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:39.659
for me as a comedian is like, and a producer,

00:36:40.539 --> 00:36:44.639
is you want, like if I book you, I want like

00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:48.030
your... 30 best minutes like I want a material

00:36:48.030 --> 00:36:51.150
because I look at anybody I book like a ringer

00:36:51.150 --> 00:36:53.710
like I'm always doing different things Different

00:36:53.710 --> 00:36:56.230
jokes because I've been here every month Yeah,

00:36:56.250 --> 00:36:58.530
you're trying new stuff out all the time as you're

00:36:58.530 --> 00:37:00.869
doing it constantly right because I don't want

00:37:00.869 --> 00:37:03.269
to give the audience the same 15 minutes I did

00:37:03.269 --> 00:37:06.090
last month and like I feel like I don't want

00:37:06.090 --> 00:37:08.289
them to come to the show and be okay with tuning

00:37:08.289 --> 00:37:12.829
out the first part of it, so I Look at it like

00:37:12.829 --> 00:37:16.590
a comedian It is incredibly difficult to get

00:37:16.590 --> 00:37:20.389
better at crowd work at an open mic. Yes. Because

00:37:20.389 --> 00:37:23.329
the open mics largely are with other comedians

00:37:23.329 --> 00:37:26.110
in the audience and you know them. And it's very

00:37:26.110 --> 00:37:28.909
hard to do organic crowd work with people you

00:37:28.909 --> 00:37:31.949
know. Especially if they're comedians and they're

00:37:31.949 --> 00:37:34.409
trying to out -funny you. Because you're not

00:37:34.409 --> 00:37:37.150
going to get anything from that. That's a worst

00:37:37.150 --> 00:37:39.769
case scenario is you call on someone in the crowd

00:37:39.769 --> 00:37:42.530
and they're another comedian. Oh, man. I've had

00:37:42.530 --> 00:37:46.730
that in shows where And Steve Brown is bad with

00:37:46.730 --> 00:37:51.550
this. He's not as bad anymore, but he is so supportive

00:37:51.550 --> 00:37:56.710
that he will show up to the shows and if nobody's

00:37:56.710 --> 00:37:59.570
volunteering for a crowd work piece, he will

00:37:59.570 --> 00:38:05.329
volunteer. And it sucks because you know he means

00:38:05.329 --> 00:38:10.090
well, but it's like, dude, not you. Because now

00:38:10.090 --> 00:38:18.440
you're a plant in the audience. Right. if it

00:38:40.110 --> 00:38:42.030
are trying to get better at crowd work and they

00:38:42.030 --> 00:38:45.289
have to do it at the shows. So I'm seeing them

00:38:45.289 --> 00:38:47.670
be kind of raw with it and not good with it.

00:38:48.289 --> 00:38:49.889
And there's nothing you can really do because

00:38:49.889 --> 00:38:51.710
like the only way you're going to get better

00:38:51.710 --> 00:38:55.349
is by fucking up. Right. So, and then even if

00:38:55.349 --> 00:38:57.090
you're good at crowd work, like you're not going

00:38:57.090 --> 00:39:01.469
to ban a thousand. Right. So, so I have seen

00:39:01.469 --> 00:39:03.969
like comedians definitely try to put a little

00:39:03.969 --> 00:39:08.769
more effort into doing crowd work, but I mean,

00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:11.659
I would say in your first five years, you're

00:39:11.659 --> 00:39:14.820
largely afraid of the audience and you have your

00:39:14.820 --> 00:39:17.619
material and you're hoping that it goes well

00:39:17.619 --> 00:39:20.000
and you're thinking too hard about it not going

00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:23.420
well to really throw in another variable and

00:39:23.420 --> 00:39:26.380
gamble on that. It's like, so the only way I've

00:39:26.380 --> 00:39:28.440
gotten better at it is by doing that leading

00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:31.280
question. Like, okay, who hears that and why?

00:39:31.659 --> 00:39:34.059
And you ask another question and hopefully you

00:39:34.059 --> 00:39:37.260
trip on something funny. And like, you just want

00:39:37.260 --> 00:39:40.389
to like... Are you a Seinfeld fan? You know what?

00:39:40.530 --> 00:39:43.989
I hate to admit this on the air. I'm not a fan,

00:39:44.190 --> 00:39:48.489
but no, I wasn't. You know, it didn't help me.

00:39:49.449 --> 00:39:54.610
There's a little bit in the show where George

00:39:54.610 --> 00:39:57.809
is bombing at these meetings. He'll get a joke

00:39:57.809 --> 00:40:00.449
to work, get a big laugh, and then he sticks

00:40:00.449 --> 00:40:03.110
around and tries to outdo himself. And Jerry's

00:40:03.110 --> 00:40:05.670
like, no, you got to end on a big laugh. It's

00:40:05.670 --> 00:40:09.880
showmanship. But with me, like, if I get something

00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:11.900
to work really well in crowd work, it's like,

00:40:12.019 --> 00:40:15.840
okay, I have to retreat. So not like leave the

00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:17.579
stage, but like I have to stop doing the crowd

00:40:17.579 --> 00:40:21.860
work because if I get greedy and gamble, I might

00:40:21.860 --> 00:40:24.280
look like an asshole. Yeah. Yeah. That's where

00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:26.300
I'm like, the comedians have to learn that a

00:40:26.300 --> 00:40:28.760
little bit more. And then eventually you can,

00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:31.179
you can master it and be better at it. And I'm

00:40:31.179 --> 00:40:34.940
not there yet. I hear that man. And obviously

00:40:34.940 --> 00:40:38.659
same here. My whole thing with with crowd work

00:40:38.659 --> 00:40:40.340
like if someone was like, what would you tell

00:40:40.340 --> 00:40:41.860
someone? Who's gonna branch out and do crowd

00:40:41.860 --> 00:40:44.420
work? I would always say keep three or four things

00:40:44.420 --> 00:40:47.880
in your back pocket that you can rely on it because

00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:50.420
you can't you know You call on someone they might

00:40:50.420 --> 00:40:52.980
be a fucking gem and it becomes a whole other

00:40:52.980 --> 00:40:55.599
thing You might get a flat crowd that doesn't

00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:58.039
have much so you can kind of steer that into

00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:00.760
it and the other thing I would say is Always

00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:03.079
be able, like, know your material enough to where

00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:05.139
you can, no matter how far down the hole you

00:41:05.139 --> 00:41:08.739
go with the crowd, you can steer it back to where,

00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:10.980
to go right back into your act, you know? And

00:41:10.980 --> 00:41:15.699
it's hard to do. And I failed so many times,

00:41:15.820 --> 00:41:17.800
but my girlfriend would tell me, like, she'd

00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:21.440
come to occasional shows, and she's like, your

00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:24.119
crowd work is the best part. And I think that's

00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:26.019
because she knows the material so well. that

00:41:26.019 --> 00:41:28.440
it doesn't work on her anymore. But she's like,

00:41:28.659 --> 00:41:31.059
I always laugh at your crowd work. See, I also

00:41:31.059 --> 00:41:34.679
think that that's a compliment because that means

00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:37.159
that's you just being you and naturally funny.

00:41:37.739 --> 00:41:40.619
I've always thought me being me is funnier than

00:41:40.619 --> 00:41:45.599
me doing material. But I think there's something

00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:48.159
to be said that if your material is really funny

00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:49.980
but your crowd work sucks, it's like, OK, you're

00:41:49.980 --> 00:41:52.159
a good writer, but you're not good off the cuff.

00:41:52.420 --> 00:41:55.380
So I mean, I don't know. I like it. So tell me

00:41:55.380 --> 00:41:58.380
about... And I think that's exactly what it is.

00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:01.800
It's you. Yes. Because you are being authentic

00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:04.820
right then. We all write in the voice we want

00:42:04.820 --> 00:42:07.980
to have. But the voice we have is who we are.

00:42:08.059 --> 00:42:12.739
That's right. You nailed it. I was told back

00:42:12.739 --> 00:42:15.159
in the day that the difference between a comic

00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:17.480
and a comedian is like a comedian is someone

00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:21.360
who's almost always on. They're themselves. Or

00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:23.380
an exaggerated version of themselves. A comic

00:42:23.380 --> 00:42:25.909
is like... They have an act and then off stage,

00:42:26.110 --> 00:42:29.449
they're not that act, you know? Yeah. But listen,

00:42:29.650 --> 00:42:32.530
before I let you go, let's get to it. What are

00:42:32.530 --> 00:42:34.349
the shows coming up in Syracuse and anywhere

00:42:34.349 --> 00:42:37.889
else? And let's do the plugs, man. All right.

00:42:38.210 --> 00:42:41.170
So, can't tell you a lot of specifics. All right.

00:42:41.309 --> 00:42:42.989
Don't tell. Because of the nature of it. But

00:42:42.989 --> 00:42:46.670
the first Don't Tell show in Syracuse is going

00:42:46.670 --> 00:42:51.789
to be on Friday, August 22nd at 9 p .m. Okay.

00:42:52.050 --> 00:42:54.789
So... the ticket link will be available soon.

00:42:55.210 --> 00:42:57.849
It has to be approved, and it will be, but it

00:42:57.849 --> 00:42:59.230
has to be approved, and then it'll be on their

00:42:59.230 --> 00:43:02.010
national site. So I can send you guys the links

00:43:02.010 --> 00:43:04.250
if you wanna spread it that way, that's fine.

00:43:04.289 --> 00:43:07.389
We will. But probably will be up in the next

00:43:07.389 --> 00:43:10.630
couple days. And then what I'm looking for, if

00:43:10.630 --> 00:43:15.150
you own a business, if you work somewhere where

00:43:15.150 --> 00:43:18.969
you think that a show might work, we usually

00:43:18.969 --> 00:43:22.159
sell out the shows. So if you have a space that

00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:26.619
can hold 35, 40, 50, 60 people, we can bring

00:43:26.619 --> 00:43:29.119
that to your business. It would just need to

00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:31.500
be a private show. So if you have like a basement,

00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:35.119
if you've got a yoga studio that's not, you know,

00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:37.519
it shuts down at eight o 'clock, we don't want

00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:42.320
to affect your business negatively. We want to

00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:46.219
add to it. We want to bring more eyes onto your

00:43:46.219 --> 00:43:48.719
business. If it's a small startup business, you're

00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:52.219
local. We want to bring 50 people to your coffee

00:43:52.219 --> 00:43:55.679
shop, you know, and hang out at eight o 'clock,

00:43:55.940 --> 00:43:58.440
seven o 'clock, whatever. I'll work with you.

00:43:58.539 --> 00:44:02.500
We'll get everything handled and we clean up.

00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:05.500
Everybody's respectful. So it's been a lot of

00:44:05.500 --> 00:44:08.260
fun in Binghamton and we're doing really well.

00:44:08.579 --> 00:44:11.840
And Syracuse is much bigger with more people

00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:15.739
and a younger type audience. So like, I think

00:44:15.739 --> 00:44:18.340
it's a really good way to get people involved.

00:44:19.099 --> 00:44:22.920
And I mean, I've got a coffee shop. We do things.

00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:24.500
I mean, a bunch of them down in Binghamton and

00:44:24.500 --> 00:44:27.360
like they do so well selling pastries, selling

00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:31.460
coffee after hours. So it's just an added revenue

00:44:31.460 --> 00:44:35.059
stream. So but I'm looking to places in Syracuse

00:44:35.059 --> 00:44:39.460
now and I've got one down and we're hoping to

00:44:39.460 --> 00:44:41.840
go weekly in Syracuse. So you might get three

00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:44.719
or four a month. I'll tell you what, I think

00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:47.639
you're coming to the right place. I think. I

00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:53.420
think this area is ripe for a Don't Tell series.

00:44:53.820 --> 00:44:57.039
So if you are a business owner in the Syracuse

00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:59.579
area, you heard Mike Peters, they are looking

00:44:59.579 --> 00:45:01.960
for a venue, whether it's a coffee shop, a yoga

00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:04.519
studio, whatever you've got that's gonna, they're

00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:06.860
not gonna take your business over. They're gonna

00:45:06.860 --> 00:45:09.380
add, you know, we can work if it's after hours

00:45:09.380 --> 00:45:11.139
during business hours, but they are looking for

00:45:11.139 --> 00:45:13.059
a space to host these great comedy shows and

00:45:13.059 --> 00:45:15.960
I think everybody wins. Mike, what's the link

00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:19.639
where they can get these Don't Tell tickets and

00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:23.619
info? It's Don'tTellComedy .com. Don'tTellComedy

00:45:23.619 --> 00:45:26.599
.com. Don'tTellComedy .com. And then search Syracuse.

00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:29.300
And like I said, it's not up yet, but it will

00:45:29.300 --> 00:45:32.559
be soon. And there are shows in Rochester and

00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:34.699
Binghamton, too. So if you're out of the area,

00:45:34.980 --> 00:45:37.239
it's all over the place. But Buffalo as well.

00:45:37.500 --> 00:45:41.539
OK. And then... And we've got tons of great comedians

00:45:41.539 --> 00:45:43.429
coming to your town. So you'll... You'll get

00:45:43.429 --> 00:45:44.909
a good show regardless of what one you choose.

00:45:45.190 --> 00:45:47.869
And as far as homebrewed comedy, your circuit,

00:45:48.210 --> 00:45:49.690
you got anything you want to plug with that?

00:45:51.210 --> 00:45:55.389
Just I just have, oh, you know what? The show

00:45:55.389 --> 00:45:58.610
isn't until October, but I know this is largely

00:45:58.610 --> 00:46:03.070
based in Syracuse, but we just we're doing Old

00:46:03.070 --> 00:46:08.170
City Brewery in Oswego. Nice. We're starting

00:46:08.170 --> 00:46:13.099
there in October. So the show is, I think it's

00:46:13.099 --> 00:46:17.579
October 9th. I'm checking now, but I'm pretty

00:46:17.579 --> 00:46:22.719
sure it's October 9th, the 3rd. So yeah, hopefully

00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:25.619
we're gonna do, we have to do the first show

00:46:25.619 --> 00:46:28.159
first, but I'm hoping that it goes on a regular

00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:32.719
basis. And then I've got on August 8th, I have

00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:36.860
Karen Antowski doing McGraw Box North. Oh, she's

00:46:36.860 --> 00:46:40.550
great. And Karen Antowski and... Eric Bissell

00:46:40.550 --> 00:46:44.110
from Buffalo nice. There'll be a McGraw box North

00:46:44.110 --> 00:46:47.269
Brewery Company and North Syracuse I had seven

00:46:47.269 --> 00:46:51.530
o 'clock August 8. I I just went to I just went

00:46:51.530 --> 00:46:54.110
to Oswego for the first time for my nephew's

00:46:54.110 --> 00:46:57.150
graduation What a cool little fucking town, man.

00:46:57.489 --> 00:47:00.610
Yeah, my holy hell My best friend Jeff he went

00:47:00.610 --> 00:47:03.050
to college there. So for it was the best four

00:47:03.050 --> 00:47:05.090
and a half years of his life Oh, dude, it was

00:47:05.090 --> 00:47:06.809
always known as a party school for sure. But

00:47:06.809 --> 00:47:09.719
like oh The town itself, though, was just like,

00:47:09.820 --> 00:47:12.280
I was like, this is so great. I absolutely loved

00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:15.360
it. Yeah, it makes sense to go there. The only

00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:18.340
thing I remember is that we had Chinese, we had

00:47:18.340 --> 00:47:22.360
Chinese food and I fell asleep in his lobby wearing

00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:27.139
my boxers. So like, wild night. That is, I think

00:47:27.139 --> 00:47:29.280
that's, I mean, look, if you're going to sum

00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:31.860
Oswego up, it sounds like a night out in Oswego.

00:47:32.059 --> 00:47:35.519
Should end that way. Mike Peters, you're amazing.

00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:40.860
I do have one quick thing. I think find a way

00:47:40.860 --> 00:47:43.480
to, this would be hilarious. You know how they

00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:47.420
do hot yoga? What if you did hot stick comedy

00:47:47.420 --> 00:47:51.179
in a yoga studio and everyone just fucking sweats

00:47:51.179 --> 00:47:55.059
the whole time? So you get a workout. The only

00:47:55.059 --> 00:47:59.380
thing I was told when doing these is like my

00:47:59.380 --> 00:48:01.940
buddy Paul, he goes, yeah, the only thing you

00:48:01.940 --> 00:48:05.309
have to worry about is how hot some of these

00:48:05.309 --> 00:48:07.969
rooms get. Yeah. That's the only thing Don't

00:48:07.969 --> 00:48:11.690
Tell will get mad about is that people are like

00:48:11.690 --> 00:48:14.889
hot in the room. So like, they'll complain. Yeah.

00:48:14.949 --> 00:48:17.269
Because content, whatever, they'll bitch about

00:48:17.269 --> 00:48:20.190
a joke's not working, whatever. But temperature

00:48:20.190 --> 00:48:23.730
in the room is like their number one. So I will

00:48:23.730 --> 00:48:27.289
pass it up. There you go. If hot yoga comedy

00:48:27.289 --> 00:48:31.269
is what they want, I'm gonna guess no. Go yoga.

00:48:31.730 --> 00:48:34.489
Maybe. Goat yoga, for sure. Goat yoga comedy

00:48:34.489 --> 00:48:37.269
might be able to work. I hope a lot of people

00:48:37.269 --> 00:48:39.449
fart, too. You know, people fart here in yoga.

00:48:39.510 --> 00:48:41.849
Well, come on. People are farting in there anyway.

00:48:42.010 --> 00:48:44.429
That's true. Just can't hear it all the time.

00:48:44.869 --> 00:48:47.449
Mike, Peters, there's only one way to end this

00:48:47.449 --> 00:48:53.190
interview. There we go. Mike, you know I love

00:48:53.190 --> 00:48:58.250
you, man. Mike Peters, Homebrewed Comedy, DontTelComedy

00:48:58.250 --> 00:49:01.719
.com. Go to those sites. All those shows are

00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:04.719
coming up. If you are a business or a venue of

00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:08.460
some sort in the Syracuse area and you are interested

00:49:08.460 --> 00:49:12.440
in hosting a Don't Tell Comedy show, I really

00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:15.280
think you should get a hold of Mike or us because

00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:18.940
it's a win -win. Everybody wins. Mike, anything

00:49:18.940 --> 00:49:22.260
else before you go, buddy? No, man. I appreciate

00:49:22.260 --> 00:49:24.400
talking to you. I mean, any time I get a chance

00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:27.239
to look across and into those eyes. Oh, man.

00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:30.500
Just really, it completes my morning and probably

00:49:30.500 --> 00:49:33.739
my life. Man, my pants just got tight. I'll tell

00:49:33.739 --> 00:49:38.260
ya. Listen, I wish I could say the same. No.

00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:41.739
Dude, you know I love you, and I've made good

00:49:41.739 --> 00:49:43.579
on my word. I told you, any time you wanna come

00:49:43.579 --> 00:49:45.719
on, I will get you on, and I did, even though

00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:49.099
we made you wait 45 minutes. That's fine. I was

00:49:49.099 --> 00:49:51.440
just happy Matt wasn't here. I know. God, that

00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:55.280
guy. He's the worst. Mike Peters, I love you.

00:49:55.300 --> 00:49:58.719
Good luck. And homebrewed comedy, don't tell

00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:02.059
comedy. And we will not be back. That is the

00:50:02.059 --> 00:50:04.320
end of this episode of Good News York. Again,

00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:07.239
I'm flying solo this week. So you're going to

00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:10.260
get just me and some guests this week. We do

00:50:10.260 --> 00:50:11.980
have a bunch of guests coming up this week, but

00:50:11.980 --> 00:50:14.500
also I've got some segments on my own that I'll

00:50:14.500 --> 00:50:17.119
be sharing some cool shit. So thank you for tuning

00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:20.420
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