WEBVTT 00:00:22.410 --> 00:00:24.850 Hey folks, I'm Matt major from growth mode content. 00:00:25.190 --> 00:00:28.329 Welcome to good news York. This is a little, 00:00:28.429 --> 00:00:29.730 this is a little weird for me. I'm going to be 00:00:29.730 --> 00:00:34.189 honest. So this is episode, uh, what 53. Um, 00:00:35.149 --> 00:00:37.530 Mike has hosted a number of episodes without 00:00:37.530 --> 00:00:40.750 me. This is the first time I've hosted an episode 00:00:40.750 --> 00:00:42.549 without Mike. This is the first day he's taken 00:00:42.549 --> 00:00:45.469 off. He was real. He was real worried about it 00:00:45.469 --> 00:00:48.070 too. You know that Danny, he, uh, I think he 00:00:48.070 --> 00:00:50.130 asked about five times, what do I need to do 00:00:50.130 --> 00:00:53.030 to take a day off? And I'm pretty sure we answered 00:00:53.030 --> 00:00:56.049 the question each time. Uh, and even yesterday 00:00:56.049 --> 00:00:59.490 he texted me, Hey man, do I, do I need to reach 00:00:59.490 --> 00:01:02.009 out to HR or something about my, my day off? 00:01:02.990 --> 00:01:04.870 Dude, it's all set. We had this conversation, 00:01:04.989 --> 00:01:07.090 Mike. I've never had a guy so worried about, 00:01:07.090 --> 00:01:09.810 uh, following the proper procedure ever in my 00:01:09.810 --> 00:01:12.230 life. But he's dedicated, man. I guess I can't 00:01:12.230 --> 00:01:13.829 complain as an employer, right? I guess that's 00:01:13.829 --> 00:01:17.090 sort of what I'm supposed to want. But anyway, 00:01:17.090 --> 00:01:20.019 uh, We miss Mike. He is home with, uh, his, his 00:01:20.019 --> 00:01:23.739 kids have, uh, uh, school concerts, uh, whatever 00:01:23.739 --> 00:01:25.560 that they, you know, very conveniently book in 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:28.239 the middle of the work day. Awesome for parents, 00:01:28.239 --> 00:01:31.180 but, uh, that's why he has time. So, uh, we wish 00:01:31.180 --> 00:01:36.359 him well. And, uh, I am joined by somebody awesome 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:39.379 who, uh, who Mike is missing out on. I'm not 00:01:39.379 --> 00:01:42.540 going to lie. So this gentleman, uh, he goes 00:01:42.540 --> 00:01:46.370 by sledge. He's a friend of our, our good buddy, 00:01:46.390 --> 00:01:49.790 a friend of the show, Dakota. And, uh, he's a 00:01:49.790 --> 00:01:53.030 streamer. Yup. Content creator. I love this. 00:01:53.150 --> 00:01:55.549 I love this, uh, as somebody in the content creation 00:01:55.549 --> 00:01:57.329 business, anytime I see somebody doing these 00:01:57.329 --> 00:01:59.590 things, especially locally. For sure. We want 00:01:59.590 --> 00:02:01.810 to talk about them and hear about your experience 00:02:01.810 --> 00:02:03.650 and what you're doing in the world of content 00:02:03.650 --> 00:02:06.590 creation, because it's a massively wide ranging, 00:02:06.769 --> 00:02:09.409 right? Oh, for sure. A lot going on. Let's jump 00:02:09.409 --> 00:02:11.349 right in, man. Give us, uh, give us kind of your 00:02:11.349 --> 00:02:13.169 story. Who are you? My name's Sledge, or you 00:02:13.169 --> 00:02:15.389 guys can call me Seth. I've been doing content 00:02:15.389 --> 00:02:17.930 for about eight years now. Started on Twitch 00:02:17.930 --> 00:02:20.789 just as a small interest and I started to expand, 00:02:20.949 --> 00:02:23.169 got a lot of support. I wouldn't say it was huge 00:02:23.169 --> 00:02:24.930 numbers by any means, but you know, it's all 00:02:24.930 --> 00:02:26.990 about the quality of the community, right? So 00:02:26.990 --> 00:02:29.270 built on that, started on YouTube probably about 00:02:29.270 --> 00:02:31.289 a year ago. I have my own clothing brand I've 00:02:31.289 --> 00:02:32.830 been doing for about seven, eight years as well. 00:02:33.250 --> 00:02:35.810 So it's a lot of fun. So we dive into a bunch 00:02:35.810 --> 00:02:38.780 of different aspects of content creation. That's 00:02:38.780 --> 00:02:42.319 wild. So is it primarily streaming, would you 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:44.520 say, or do you do, like, for your YouTube, are 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:47.039 they separately produced, recorded, sort of? 00:02:47.060 --> 00:02:49.280 Yeah, they're separate. So the YouTube side, 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:51.759 I focus on a specific game called Rust. Not a 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:53.740 lot of people know about it, survival game, but 00:02:53.740 --> 00:02:56.800 I was doing variety on Twitch for a long time, 00:02:56.819 --> 00:02:58.759 and I wanted to dive into different aspects and 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:02.000 elements to... just boost my range. So I was 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:04.240 mainly on Twitch and I was full time as my career 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:06.759 for about two years there. I stepped away, helped 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:08.659 out the family business for a little bit and 00:03:08.659 --> 00:03:10.659 we're getting back into that actually here shortly. 00:03:11.379 --> 00:03:13.919 So yeah, there's a lot going on but it's all 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:16.500 kind of separate from each other and it works 00:03:16.500 --> 00:03:20.379 together. So I'd love to learn about these things. 00:03:20.620 --> 00:03:24.020 Twitch is honestly one of my favorite platforms. 00:03:24.689 --> 00:03:27.370 I subscribe to every probably streaming service 00:03:27.370 --> 00:03:29.289 on the planet. Oh yeah. Turbo subscription is 00:03:29.289 --> 00:03:32.030 the one I use the most. Yup. It's on in my office 00:03:32.030 --> 00:03:36.530 24 seven. Tell us kind of why you would choose 00:03:36.530 --> 00:03:38.650 that platform, especially for a lot of folks 00:03:38.650 --> 00:03:40.669 that may not even be familiar with the platform. 00:03:40.789 --> 00:03:43.430 What is Twitch all about and what drew you and 00:03:43.430 --> 00:03:44.979 continues, I guess, to keep you there? Well, 00:03:45.099 --> 00:03:47.240 I think when streaming, well, livestream first 00:03:47.240 --> 00:03:49.400 started, Twitch was kind of the name. Sure. And 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:51.159 obviously there's a lot of competitors now. I 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:53.020 mean, Facebook jumped on. YouTube's obviously 00:03:53.020 --> 00:03:55.520 doing its thing. They got kicked now. It just 00:03:55.520 --> 00:03:58.560 had a large community to start. Yeah. And I started 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:00.379 as a viewer, which I think most people do. Sure. 00:04:00.580 --> 00:04:02.639 So I was watching, getting involved in communities 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:05.060 and saw the fun in it, saw the growth that a 00:04:05.060 --> 00:04:07.180 lot of these communities were doing, these channels 00:04:07.180 --> 00:04:09.240 were doing. And I said, you know what? This looks 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:11.099 like something maybe I could do. I enjoy gaming 00:04:11.099 --> 00:04:14.460 a lot. And I was like, maybe I can connect with 00:04:14.460 --> 00:04:16.279 other people around the world. And that's exactly 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:18.459 what it's become. So awesome. A lot of people 00:04:18.459 --> 00:04:20.420 from around the world that pop in, you know, 00:04:20.660 --> 00:04:22.000 in little numbers here and there, but they'll 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:23.399 say, you know, hey, I'm from Australia. Hey, 00:04:23.439 --> 00:04:25.019 I'm from Europe. And it's cool. You get to catch 00:04:25.019 --> 00:04:27.120 up with people and you make friends. I've met 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:29.519 a lot of them in person. Sure. Obviously, there's 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:31.860 like TwitchCon in California. So I went there 00:04:31.860 --> 00:04:34.399 a few times. So there's a lot to it. But yeah, 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:37.620 I mean, I think that Twitch is just... the home 00:04:37.620 --> 00:04:39.439 for me. I think if you're just starting now, 00:04:39.500 --> 00:04:41.139 there's a lot more choices. So there's a lot 00:04:41.139 --> 00:04:43.480 more that goes into that thought process. But 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:45.660 for me, it's kind of hard to move away when I 00:04:45.660 --> 00:04:48.040 got like 9 ,000 followers over there. It's like, 00:04:48.100 --> 00:04:49.740 what am I going to tell everyone? Hey, I'm on 00:04:49.740 --> 00:04:52.259 YouTube now. So it's a little tricky. That's 00:04:52.259 --> 00:04:54.459 a hard pull. It is. It is. You'll always get 00:04:54.459 --> 00:04:56.480 some followers, but you're going to lose a considerable. 00:04:57.000 --> 00:04:59.100 Yeah. And they have multi streaming now, too. 00:04:59.139 --> 00:05:01.259 So you can connect on multiple. So I do do YouTube 00:05:01.259 --> 00:05:03.689 occasionally alongside my Twitch. And sometimes 00:05:03.689 --> 00:05:05.329 kick as well. Is Twitch cool with that? Because 00:05:05.329 --> 00:05:07.410 back in the day, that was sort of a big no -no. 00:05:07.529 --> 00:05:09.310 Well, I think with the competitors coming into 00:05:09.310 --> 00:05:11.069 the market, they were fearing losing someone 00:05:11.069 --> 00:05:13.730 as a whole. They had to. So they allowed it moving 00:05:13.730 --> 00:05:15.350 forward. So that's what happened. Yeah. So that 00:05:15.350 --> 00:05:17.029 recently changed probably about six months to 00:05:17.029 --> 00:05:20.050 a year ago. That was always the interesting tactic 00:05:20.050 --> 00:05:22.269 in the very early days of this for folks that 00:05:22.269 --> 00:05:23.790 don't know multi -streaming. What he's talking 00:05:23.790 --> 00:05:27.129 about is basically you can use software or even 00:05:27.129 --> 00:05:29.470 hardware now these days to not only stream to 00:05:29.470 --> 00:05:32.449 one platform, to Twitch. But all of these simultaneously. 00:05:32.629 --> 00:05:34.750 So you could be on Twitch and Facebook and YouTube 00:05:34.750 --> 00:05:38.250 simultaneously with the same video stream. Uh, 00:05:38.250 --> 00:05:39.529 back in the day, they didn't like that. They 00:05:39.529 --> 00:05:42.250 wanted that exclusivity. They wanted that to 00:05:42.250 --> 00:05:44.050 only be there, which is sort of understandable. 00:05:44.329 --> 00:05:47.970 But, um, like you said, it's, uh, I think it's 00:05:47.970 --> 00:05:49.709 great that they expand. That was something that 00:05:49.709 --> 00:05:51.930 as streamers, that was your first inkling. Well, 00:05:52.009 --> 00:05:54.009 like, listen, why can't I, why can't I do all 00:05:54.009 --> 00:05:58.990 of these and maximize my chances? but I think 00:05:58.990 --> 00:06:02.930 that's a great thing. If you could again, just 00:06:02.930 --> 00:06:04.569 again for folks that aren't super familiar with 00:06:04.569 --> 00:06:06.389 the platform, talk about sort of the business 00:06:06.389 --> 00:06:09.310 side of it. So they see you, you say it was your 00:06:09.310 --> 00:06:11.790 full -time job. How does that work? How does 00:06:11.790 --> 00:06:13.610 somebody make streaming their full -time job? 00:06:13.769 --> 00:06:16.069 So subscriptions is probably the number one thing 00:06:16.069 --> 00:06:18.389 I would say, but it's kind of changed and each 00:06:18.389 --> 00:06:20.709 channel can be different of course. So I actually 00:06:20.709 --> 00:06:23.230 had a lot of fortune with the community donating 00:06:23.230 --> 00:06:26.620 direct. So Twitch does a 50 -50 split. And it 00:06:26.620 --> 00:06:28.519 also scales the larger you are. You can get up, 00:06:28.540 --> 00:06:31.220 I believe, 70 -30 splits on the subscription, 00:06:31.319 --> 00:06:33.620 which is $6 now. They just raised the price. 00:06:33.860 --> 00:06:36.500 And that gets rid of ads completely, unless you 00:06:36.500 --> 00:06:38.120 have Turbo. Then I think you're just ad -free 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:41.519 across every channel. So that's the way you monetize 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:44.259 over there. There is a stream platform currency 00:06:44.259 --> 00:06:46.300 that you can buy into. And then you'll get a 00:06:46.300 --> 00:06:48.779 badge showing how much this person's donated 00:06:48.779 --> 00:06:51.670 to a specific channel. But yeah, so there's three 00:06:51.670 --> 00:06:53.509 different metrics I guess, and then I guess there's 00:06:53.509 --> 00:06:55.589 ad revenue too on there, but they're not as heavy 00:06:55.589 --> 00:06:57.790 as I would say as like YouTube would be with 00:06:57.790 --> 00:06:59.750 stuff like that. So yeah, you're able to supplement 00:06:59.750 --> 00:07:02.170 pretty well as a content creator, as long as 00:07:02.170 --> 00:07:03.790 you're smart about it and you're having fun, 00:07:03.930 --> 00:07:05.750 it's the most important thing. And I wouldn't 00:07:05.750 --> 00:07:07.509 say necessarily let's just focus on the money. 00:07:07.730 --> 00:07:09.230 I don't think anyone necessarily should start 00:07:09.230 --> 00:07:11.170 that way. I think it should be a hobby. And if 00:07:11.170 --> 00:07:12.949 it builds into it and it becomes full -time, 00:07:13.110 --> 00:07:14.790 that's what happened to me, then you can run 00:07:14.790 --> 00:07:17.660 with that, so. Well, everything you talk about 00:07:17.660 --> 00:07:20.259 is, you go back to that word community, and this 00:07:20.259 --> 00:07:21.920 is something that's so important we've been trying 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:26.079 to educate even every sort of brand on, is it's 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:30.360 not just, here's this thing, but it's this group 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:33.240 of people that believe in it, and why, and they 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:35.040 build that community, and what you're talking 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:38.500 about is literally, again, it's not all about 00:07:38.500 --> 00:07:40.160 the money, and I completely understand that, 00:07:40.180 --> 00:07:43.550 but the fact that... when you are earning, it 00:07:43.550 --> 00:07:46.230 is because this community is literally just out 00:07:46.230 --> 00:07:49.310 of pure generosity. They could sit there and 00:07:49.310 --> 00:07:51.009 be a viewer for free and enjoy your content, 00:07:51.430 --> 00:07:53.110 contribute in the chat typically and all these 00:07:53.110 --> 00:07:58.089 things for free. But they choose to kind of pony 00:07:58.089 --> 00:08:02.509 up their money to the tune of big dollars for 00:08:02.509 --> 00:08:06.129 some of the successful streamers. literally something 00:08:06.129 --> 00:08:08.490 that you could make your job. Yep. Yep. And there's 00:08:08.490 --> 00:08:10.250 a lot of opportunity, too, for, like, you're 00:08:10.250 --> 00:08:11.629 talking about the viewers that don't pay in. 00:08:11.709 --> 00:08:13.350 They get hit with ads. It can be, like, two minutes 00:08:13.350 --> 00:08:15.189 long. Sure. They pop it up into a side window 00:08:15.189 --> 00:08:17.209 now with some of the updates. But if someone 00:08:17.209 --> 00:08:19.310 in the community wants to also be generous, they 00:08:19.310 --> 00:08:21.730 can gift out subscriptions in chunks. They can 00:08:21.730 --> 00:08:23.189 do it individually. They can click on your name, 00:08:23.509 --> 00:08:25.990 give you a sub. Or they could say, hey, there's, 00:08:25.990 --> 00:08:27.810 you know, five people I'm going to gift randomly. 00:08:27.889 --> 00:08:29.769 They get a subscription. So... There's other 00:08:29.769 --> 00:08:32.210 ways that, you know, one individual can support 00:08:32.210 --> 00:08:34.429 further and help out other people in that community 00:08:34.429 --> 00:08:37.350 to have a good time. So it is really cool. Yeah. 00:08:38.110 --> 00:08:41.070 Talk to me a little bit about how creators feel 00:08:41.070 --> 00:08:44.309 about each other. So I know you mentioned TwitchCon, 00:08:44.309 --> 00:08:46.129 you know, this event where folks come together. 00:08:46.809 --> 00:08:50.649 Is it a very Kumbaya, every channel's trying 00:08:50.649 --> 00:08:52.570 to help each other succeed, or is there some 00:08:52.570 --> 00:08:54.200 rivalries? How does... Tell people about that. 00:08:54.220 --> 00:08:56.139 Oh, there's for sure some rivalries, I'm sure. 00:08:56.639 --> 00:08:58.620 You see a lot of like that Twitter drama and 00:08:58.620 --> 00:09:01.620 so on. So I mean, with our crew, I pick up content 00:09:01.620 --> 00:09:03.100 creators from my brand and they represent the 00:09:03.100 --> 00:09:04.659 brand. They sell the clothing. I hook them up 00:09:04.659 --> 00:09:06.899 with some stuff. So within that group, we're 00:09:06.899 --> 00:09:08.460 really tight and then you get to meet in person. 00:09:08.539 --> 00:09:10.059 And then obviously there's people that are detached 00:09:10.059 --> 00:09:11.860 from my brand that your friends with as well. 00:09:12.179 --> 00:09:14.340 So I like to be kind and friendly to everyone. 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:16.659 That's the most important thing, you know. But 00:09:16.659 --> 00:09:18.259 if there's someone online that's giving you a 00:09:18.259 --> 00:09:20.679 hard time, I also don't mind. I'm not the type 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:23.000 that's not going to say something. Yeah. So there's 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:24.659 a little bit. There's a little bit of that drama, 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:26.720 I guess you could say. But overall, I would say 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:29.899 it's mainly everyone's community. How long is 00:09:29.899 --> 00:09:31.480 an average stream for you? How long do you go 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:34.320 live for? Oh, boy. It depends. But with work 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:36.480 right now, it's like three to four hours. But 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:38.580 when I was full time, it was pushing eight hours 00:09:38.580 --> 00:09:41.179 a day, I'd say. And I would sometimes segment 00:09:41.179 --> 00:09:43.220 it like four hours in the morning, do some stuff 00:09:43.220 --> 00:09:45.649 in between. get some tasks done for my brand 00:09:45.649 --> 00:09:48.009 and then get back on for a later stream to hit 00:09:48.009 --> 00:09:50.090 different time zones as well, hang out with people 00:09:50.090 --> 00:09:53.350 that are across the world and so on. Yeah, so 00:09:53.350 --> 00:09:56.029 I mean, it does become to a degree that full 00:09:56.029 --> 00:09:58.370 -time feel, but it's a difference of do I want 00:09:58.370 --> 00:10:00.190 to work at a Walmart or do I want to work playing 00:10:00.190 --> 00:10:03.230 video games or a podcast or a talk show or whatever 00:10:03.230 --> 00:10:05.269 that you want to do on Twitch. That's really 00:10:05.269 --> 00:10:08.190 interesting. When you're doing that, sort of 00:10:08.190 --> 00:10:11.909 what goes into that stream? Is it 100 % gaming? 00:10:12.110 --> 00:10:14.539 Do you kind of mix it up with a little talking 00:10:14.539 --> 00:10:16.620 conversation, and then you game for a little 00:10:16.620 --> 00:10:19.039 while. What's a stream like typically? Yeah, 00:10:19.059 --> 00:10:20.759 so typically in the beginning of the stream, 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:23.139 I'll talk for maybe 30 minutes, or I try to anyways, 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:25.100 unless there's maybe a big game update that I 00:10:25.100 --> 00:10:27.740 want to get right into, of course. But yeah, 00:10:27.740 --> 00:10:29.919 so I'll talk for a little bit, you know, and 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:31.960 hang out, and then we'll jump into the game, 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:33.820 and we'll play that. But during the game, there's 00:10:33.820 --> 00:10:35.899 a lot of interaction as well. A lot of the reactionary 00:10:35.899 --> 00:10:37.759 content comes from that. There's only so much 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:40.080 I can do with the back and forth. But then I 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:42.019 do this thing called Fresh Tune Fridays. Not 00:10:42.019 --> 00:10:44.690 every Friday. but basically people can donate 00:10:44.690 --> 00:10:48.289 in money and then I watch a song request. So 00:10:48.289 --> 00:10:51.269 I'm a big metalhead, pop punk guy. And so I'll 00:10:51.269 --> 00:10:53.409 watch a bunch of those videos and react to them. 00:10:53.490 --> 00:10:55.769 So you can do so much on there. So I had to mix 00:10:55.769 --> 00:10:58.230 it up a little bit. That's awesome. That's awesome. 00:10:58.610 --> 00:11:00.629 I love that. I mentioned I like Twitch a lot. 00:11:00.730 --> 00:11:02.470 One of the reasons is in the evening I'll put 00:11:02.470 --> 00:11:05.730 on, there's so many music streamers and DJs and 00:11:05.730 --> 00:11:10.110 live music performers and stuff like that. It's 00:11:10.110 --> 00:11:13.009 a great thing just to pop on. For sure. When 00:11:13.009 --> 00:11:14.370 you're not sure what else to watch or something. 00:11:14.429 --> 00:11:17.509 Oh, no, definitely. It's good times, man. It's 00:11:17.509 --> 00:11:19.529 a cool platform. It really is, it really is. 00:11:19.549 --> 00:11:21.370 I would encourage more people to check it out. 00:11:22.470 --> 00:11:25.049 I want to ask you about the clothing line. So 00:11:25.049 --> 00:11:28.049 you mentioned this a couple of times. How does 00:11:28.049 --> 00:11:30.190 somebody come up, or I guess I should start with 00:11:30.190 --> 00:11:32.149 why would somebody come up with a clothing line? 00:11:32.330 --> 00:11:34.649 What inspired such a thing? I'm an art guy, so 00:11:34.649 --> 00:11:35.730 I guess I probably should have mentioned that 00:11:35.730 --> 00:11:38.259 too. So I've been doing... I've been drawing 00:11:38.259 --> 00:11:40.419 since I was a kid. Now I moved into graphic design 00:11:40.419 --> 00:11:42.799 in high school, and then I was self -taught. 00:11:42.940 --> 00:11:44.879 Got some friends that helped me out that were 00:11:44.879 --> 00:11:47.220 more experienced. And I started a clothing brand 00:11:47.220 --> 00:11:48.879 originally. It was a streetwear brand with my 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:51.460 brother, but it didn't really have a target market. 00:11:51.659 --> 00:11:54.360 It was just clothing, right? And that's very 00:11:54.360 --> 00:11:56.539 hard to get, you know, who do you advertise to? 00:11:56.779 --> 00:11:58.559 What group, what age, you know, all that stuff. 00:11:58.700 --> 00:12:00.480 Like, hey, somebody, look, it's cool. Right, 00:12:00.620 --> 00:12:03.019 right. So then I'm like, well, you know, the 00:12:03.019 --> 00:12:04.940 brand name is Virus. And I'm like, you know, 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:06.940 I'm thinking of a gaming brand, you know, and 00:12:06.940 --> 00:12:08.879 I'm looking at other comparable companies that 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:10.379 are out there. And there weren't really many 00:12:10.379 --> 00:12:13.080 in that in that realm. So I decided, hey, maybe 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:15.779 I jump into a clothing brand for gamers, because 00:12:15.779 --> 00:12:17.399 we're kind of stuck in this realm of let's go 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:20.139 to GameStop and buy a one up. Mushroom and that's 00:12:20.139 --> 00:12:22.100 that's the extent you know and it's getting better 00:12:22.100 --> 00:12:24.740 But so that's kind of why I dove into it because 00:12:24.740 --> 00:12:26.879 I have a passion for graphic design And I do 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:28.539 like wearing different types of clothing so I 00:12:28.539 --> 00:12:29.980 said hey why don't we just mesh them together 00:12:29.980 --> 00:12:32.299 and involve gaming into the mix That's awesome. 00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:36.419 Yeah, I I love hearing that so I'm I'm old school, 00:12:36.460 --> 00:12:40.000 and I've been big into any sort of like cool 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:42.340 nerd Clothing or accessories and things like 00:12:42.340 --> 00:12:43.580 that because they're always still few and far 00:12:43.580 --> 00:12:46.120 between yep But I almost feel like we've lost 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:48.179 some because back in the day we had, uh, there 00:12:48.179 --> 00:12:50.399 was this one company, think geek. Yep. And I 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:51.740 think they got bought out by one of the bigger 00:12:51.740 --> 00:12:54.320 companies and sort of went to shit. Yeah. Um, 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:57.820 there was another, what was, uh, Jinx hackware. 00:12:57.899 --> 00:12:59.519 You ever hear of them? I don't think I have. 00:12:59.659 --> 00:13:02.220 I was from like way back in the day, but they 00:13:02.220 --> 00:13:05.220 had some of the best, like nerd more computing 00:13:05.220 --> 00:13:10.480 than gaming, but real like inside industry clothing 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:12.980 and accessories and cool shit like that. And, 00:13:13.700 --> 00:13:15.899 uh, It seems like that those sort of things went 00:13:15.899 --> 00:13:17.639 away. And so when I see more and more of this, 00:13:17.779 --> 00:13:20.259 I love people doing this. I work local with Print 00:13:20.259 --> 00:13:21.879 Hub, if you ever heard of them out of Syracuse 00:13:21.879 --> 00:13:23.720 here. And so I've been buddies with that guy. 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:25.919 That's the other thing, right? When you're playing 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:28.120 music, you get shirts for the fans, right? Sure. 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:30.240 So we started there. I started the Lightcraft 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:32.500 design of T -shirt there. Learned that process. 00:13:32.740 --> 00:13:33.899 And then, you know, it's like these skills you 00:13:33.899 --> 00:13:36.120 develop when you're younger. They just flow into 00:13:36.120 --> 00:13:37.720 the stuff that you do as you get older, right? 00:13:37.820 --> 00:13:39.379 So that's kind of what happened. That's awesome. 00:13:39.620 --> 00:13:42.759 So is that... Is that just kind of like a side 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:44.779 project? Is that something that you think will 00:13:44.779 --> 00:13:47.360 be a, you know, major business for you? How does 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:49.580 that go? Yeah, I want it to become major. With 00:13:49.580 --> 00:13:51.879 the time limitations right now, you know, I wish 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:53.799 that I had more time for it. It's always the 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:55.100 struggle, right? I think everyone can relate 00:13:55.100 --> 00:13:58.240 to that. So, yeah, once I get more time on my 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:00.120 hands, there'll be more frequent, you know, drops 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:01.840 and stuff. They're exclusive, so they're one 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:04.139 -offs. So, you know, I'll produce 25 to 50 of 00:14:04.139 --> 00:14:06.519 these. Once they're gone, they're gone. And then 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:08.220 it's, so it builds up a little bit of hype and 00:14:08.220 --> 00:14:09.860 I guess the FOMO, which isn't really what I'm 00:14:09.860 --> 00:14:12.139 trying to force, but I'm not gonna constantly 00:14:12.139 --> 00:14:14.759 restock and then suddenly people stop buying 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:16.519 and I've got a bunch of extra shirts, right? 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:19.220 So that's kinda how I do that. But yeah, so eventually 00:14:19.220 --> 00:14:21.740 I do wanna get into that and get full blown staff. 00:14:21.860 --> 00:14:23.580 I got a lot of volunteers, a lot of buddies I'm 00:14:23.580 --> 00:14:26.240 very grateful for that help out. We do community 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:28.059 discord events where we had a bunch of people 00:14:28.059 --> 00:14:29.809 and say, hey. We're doing Fall Guys tonight, 00:14:30.029 --> 00:14:31.610 and it's a community event. It's a free game. 00:14:31.929 --> 00:14:33.929 Everyone get in and play with us. You know, 20 00:14:33.929 --> 00:14:35.590 people get together, and we have a good time. 00:14:35.690 --> 00:14:37.870 So there's a lot to it that definitely can be 00:14:37.870 --> 00:14:39.309 built into something further. That's pretty cool. 00:14:39.470 --> 00:14:44.470 I think that sort of drop method of merchandise 00:14:44.470 --> 00:14:47.549 is really neat. Yes. And it's sort of a new model. 00:14:47.730 --> 00:14:48.830 And again, I think that's something that a lot 00:14:48.830 --> 00:14:51.110 of folks may have not really paid a whole lot 00:14:51.110 --> 00:14:53.889 of attention to. But I could see the advantages, 00:14:54.009 --> 00:14:56.190 especially as you already mentioned. inventory, 00:14:56.289 --> 00:14:57.470 you know, people talk about, I want to start 00:14:57.470 --> 00:14:59.389 a clothing brand. That means I got to fill a 00:14:59.389 --> 00:15:02.929 warehouse with every shape and size of all these 00:15:02.929 --> 00:15:06.309 things, you know, forever. Um, where you go exactly, 00:15:06.330 --> 00:15:08.990 you know, I got limited. I got what I got. Right. 00:15:09.289 --> 00:15:11.889 That makes it unique and exclusive and, and, 00:15:11.889 --> 00:15:14.769 uh, in some cases, maybe premium. Right. Right. 00:15:14.789 --> 00:15:18.230 You tried to premium price and, uh, it's a cool 00:15:18.230 --> 00:15:20.169 thing. Yeah. And I think that's a neat model. 00:15:20.529 --> 00:15:22.220 So, uh, It's interesting to hear you do that. 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:24.340 Yeah. Yeah. We do a little bit with, you know, 00:15:24.460 --> 00:15:26.679 talking about gaming and stuff and the rarity. 00:15:26.779 --> 00:15:28.740 I actually do sometimes like different color 00:15:28.740 --> 00:15:31.279 sets. So like maybe this in pink, not green with 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:33.960 only five units. And it's one in each size. The 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:36.200 price is a little more expensive, but it's exclusive, 00:15:36.340 --> 00:15:37.860 right? It gives you that feeling like I've got 00:15:37.860 --> 00:15:39.820 this. And it's like a video game with that skin 00:15:39.820 --> 00:15:42.419 that you bought that's, you know, super valuable 00:15:42.419 --> 00:15:44.299 and you want to show it off online. So it's the 00:15:44.299 --> 00:15:46.200 same thing, but in physical form. And I thought 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:48.100 that was kind of a cool idea. Right. So there's 00:15:48.100 --> 00:15:49.679 a lot of different things. I think the clothing 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:52.769 brands are coming into. skins for people. Yeah, 00:15:52.830 --> 00:15:56.210 I know, right? That's what they should do. There 00:15:56.210 --> 00:15:58.850 should be, like, a matching pair. I'm kind of 00:15:58.850 --> 00:16:01.169 surprised nobody's done this. Buy the skin of 00:16:01.169 --> 00:16:03.129 the game and get the matching t -shirt. Oh, that'd 00:16:03.129 --> 00:16:05.129 be so cool. That'd be so cool. It's a dream. 00:16:07.149 --> 00:16:09.029 I'll tell you what, though. I bought my Jay and 00:16:09.029 --> 00:16:12.309 Silent Bob hack in Call of Duty a month or two 00:16:12.309 --> 00:16:13.950 ago, and I don't think I'll ever change it, because 00:16:13.950 --> 00:16:17.029 I just... There's nobody better than Silent Bob 00:16:17.029 --> 00:16:18.590 to run around and shoot people with, you know? 00:16:20.129 --> 00:16:21.730 The most brilliant thing they ever came up with. 00:16:21.889 --> 00:16:24.429 You found your skin. That's it. That's it. It's 00:16:24.429 --> 00:16:26.750 mine forever. I'm the fat guy in the overcoat. 00:16:30.129 --> 00:16:32.429 Where can folks find you? We're talking about 00:16:32.429 --> 00:16:34.210 all these things, but let's give folks the plugs 00:16:34.210 --> 00:16:38.289 before we forget. Yeah, all social media, Sledge315. 00:16:38.509 --> 00:16:40.769 The 315 for the local should be easy to remember. 00:16:40.929 --> 00:16:43.090 That's how I'm spotted online quite a bit. 315, 00:16:43.149 --> 00:16:44.809 are you from Syracuse? Yeah, I'm around the area. 00:16:45.230 --> 00:16:49.340 So Sledge315 on Twitch, YouTube. Twitter, Instagram, 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:51.539 wherever that you guys want to follow and check 00:16:51.539 --> 00:16:53.740 along. Feel free to stop by and hang. I would 00:16:53.740 --> 00:16:55.940 appreciate it. And if I can shout out the brand, 00:16:56.100 --> 00:16:58.919 it's Virusco, but it's V -Y -R -U -S. Absolutely. 00:16:58.940 --> 00:17:01.039 So yeah, people misspell that. I want to do a 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:02.759 little twist, but yeah, so that's what's going 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:04.619 on. That's what makes it cool. You can't spell 00:17:04.619 --> 00:17:06.599 it the right way. All right, exactly. Got to 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:07.660 be a little different. That's what makes it a 00:17:07.660 --> 00:17:12.079 brand. We will, of course, put all the links 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:14.559 in the description and stuff too so people can 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:16.019 jump right to that. They don't even have to try 00:17:16.019 --> 00:17:19.799 to think about spelling it. Tell us what's next. 00:17:20.259 --> 00:17:23.519 You got a drop coming? You got anything news 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:26.640 that we can tell people what they might be looking 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:28.019 for for something like this? Well, I'm actually 00:17:28.019 --> 00:17:29.420 wearing the thing that we're going to be dropping. 00:17:30.019 --> 00:17:31.680 Oh. Yeah. It's been a long time coming. I've 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:33.440 had these in stock for a while, but I've just 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:35.380 not had the time to get it set up. But I'm planning 00:17:35.380 --> 00:17:38.140 to drop it not this upcoming Friday, but the 00:17:38.140 --> 00:17:40.359 following is the hope, the plan. I got to do 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:42.279 some photo shoots and so on. But that's what's 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:44.559 next. That's awesome. You know, YouTube's a constant 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:46.700 go, go, go there, so I don't really have anything 00:17:46.700 --> 00:17:49.220 projected that I can say, but it's week to week. 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:51.680 So just wait. How do you do it? Is that an in 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:53.500 -person or is that an online thing? So if somebody's 00:17:53.500 --> 00:17:55.240 in California, could they get in on this drop 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:57.140 potentially? Yes. Yes. Awesome. Anywhere around 00:17:57.140 --> 00:17:59.299 the world, international shipping. Obviously, 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:00.940 it's a little more expensive elsewhere, but... 00:18:00.940 --> 00:18:05.339 Yeah. Excuse me. So, yeah. Worth it to make the 00:18:05.339 --> 00:18:10.539 journey. Yeah, 100%. That's awesome, man. And 00:18:10.539 --> 00:18:12.839 I'm sorry, I stopped you there a little bit talking 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:16.220 about YouTube, but let's actually take a minute 00:18:16.220 --> 00:18:18.240 and talk about YouTube, because that's sort of 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:19.660 a completely different animal than Twitch, right? 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:22.400 Right. Are you doing live as well? I might have 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:23.920 asked you this, but are you doing any live on 00:18:23.920 --> 00:18:26.220 YouTube as well? A little bit of live, but mainly 00:18:26.220 --> 00:18:28.180 week -to -week content. I play the game Rust. 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:29.900 I do some tutorials in there. There's so much 00:18:29.900 --> 00:18:32.519 to that game, so I just kind of break down the 00:18:32.519 --> 00:18:34.279 thing that I enjoy in it, and then I do tutorials 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:35.930 on it. Eventually, there'll be some gameplay 00:18:35.930 --> 00:18:37.650 recordings, because you can do a lot of storytelling 00:18:37.650 --> 00:18:40.730 and storylines there. So that stuff will become 00:18:40.730 --> 00:18:43.750 a thing. But yeah, on YouTube, I sit on my computer 00:18:43.750 --> 00:18:45.609 and I just record a bunch of stuff, write up 00:18:45.609 --> 00:18:48.049 a script, to a point where one guy thought I 00:18:48.049 --> 00:18:51.049 was AI. They're like, oh, enough of this crap. 00:18:51.269 --> 00:18:53.750 You're an AI guy, aren't you? I'm like, that's 00:18:53.750 --> 00:18:56.970 my voice. And he apologized and goes, oh, the 00:18:56.970 --> 00:18:59.109 script was AI. I'm like, I typed all that up 00:18:59.109 --> 00:19:01.859 too. It's like, you know. I'm not stupid, I guess, 00:19:01.920 --> 00:19:04.079 that's a compliment. They trained it on me, dude. 00:19:04.279 --> 00:19:05.799 Yeah, so the only thing I took from it, though, 00:19:05.940 --> 00:19:08.039 on a positive note that I said to him is, if 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:10.859 I sounded like AI, it probably means I probably 00:19:10.859 --> 00:19:12.920 sounded a little bit emotionless, so I want to 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:14.940 focus on amping that up a little bit, you know? 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:17.680 So live content is different than record content, 00:19:17.779 --> 00:19:20.539 and I'm sure you can relate to that, but yeah, 00:19:20.559 --> 00:19:22.279 so it's a different dimension, and that's why 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:24.920 I separated it a little bit. What do you find 00:19:24.920 --> 00:19:28.700 is the best mixer, or where have you found the 00:19:28.700 --> 00:19:31.279 most success? in terms of the, I guess, two now 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:33.500 big formats on YouTube, right? Now we have shorts, 00:19:34.160 --> 00:19:36.660 very similar to reels or TikToks, you know, the 00:19:36.660 --> 00:19:39.279 vertical phone style, fast, flip through the 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:41.640 whole bunch. Or there's the traditional YouTube 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:45.200 videos that everybody is familiar with. Where 00:19:45.200 --> 00:19:47.200 are you finding the success in these two? I do 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:49.339 the long form. My videos are like two to three 00:19:49.339 --> 00:19:51.759 minutes. They could technically be a short, but 00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:53.960 there's success on either side. I think it's 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:56.259 really what you want to cater into your audience. 00:19:56.759 --> 00:19:59.019 So, you know, there's people that succeed on 00:19:59.019 --> 00:20:00.799 TikTok that would probably succeed on YouTube 00:20:00.799 --> 00:20:02.819 shorts just the same way. Gotcha. But then they 00:20:02.819 --> 00:20:04.819 jump into the long form and they struggle. Right. 00:20:04.980 --> 00:20:06.500 And then there's the people that figure out both 00:20:06.500 --> 00:20:08.200 and they can, you know, just, you know, put out 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:10.539 a bunch of content all at once and they can cover 00:20:10.539 --> 00:20:12.819 both grounds. But you can get monetized either 00:20:12.819 --> 00:20:15.420 way so you can get it via the shorts route or 00:20:15.420 --> 00:20:17.599 the long form route. I want the long form route. 00:20:17.740 --> 00:20:19.079 I thought it was a little bit more straightforward, 00:20:19.220 --> 00:20:21.720 a little bit more my style. I think that that 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:23.779 short format is very, you know, with TikTok, 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:26.599 it feels very young, Jen, and I'm not like old, 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:28.859 but I'm definitely older than the people that 00:20:28.859 --> 00:20:31.480 are really running that TikTok. So, you know, 00:20:31.539 --> 00:20:34.000 I like the long form for sure. OK, that's great. 00:20:34.299 --> 00:20:37.859 I think that's great advice. I got two last things 00:20:37.859 --> 00:20:40.319 for you, man, and I'll let you dip out of here. 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:44.299 The first one is, do you have any advice as somebody 00:20:44.299 --> 00:20:48.029 who has recently started a new YouTube channel 00:20:48.029 --> 00:20:49.410 and you've been building it for a few months 00:20:49.410 --> 00:20:51.589 now. Anything that you could tell somebody who's 00:20:51.589 --> 00:20:53.829 starting today that maybe you wish you knew on 00:20:53.829 --> 00:20:55.869 day one? Well, I guess the number one thing, 00:20:56.029 --> 00:20:57.630 and it's something that I do know and I hope 00:20:57.630 --> 00:20:58.930 that a lot of people do, but I don't think they 00:20:58.930 --> 00:21:01.470 do, is patience. Patience is probably the number 00:21:01.470 --> 00:21:03.130 one thing. I'd love to hear you say that, man. 00:21:03.210 --> 00:21:04.869 Yeah, a lot of people get impatient and they 00:21:04.869 --> 00:21:07.890 quit very quickly because they want this instant 00:21:07.890 --> 00:21:10.230 gratification and this instant success that they're 00:21:10.230 --> 00:21:12.670 just not going to find. It's very hard to go 00:21:12.670 --> 00:21:15.079 Mr. Beast viral. The guy did it himself for a 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:16.960 long time. So consistency is very important. 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:19.480 I think people forget that. And then just learning 00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:21.900 general skill sets on the computer and understanding 00:21:21.900 --> 00:21:25.059 the programs versus hiring out. Especially in 00:21:25.059 --> 00:21:26.599 the beginning, if you're wanting to take this 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:28.480 to a full -time thing, you've got to look at 00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:30.140 your expense. You've got to be smart with your 00:21:30.140 --> 00:21:32.240 money. And a lot of people, they go out and they 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:33.920 full -blown buy a bunch of equipment that they 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:35.220 can't really afford. And they think they're going 00:21:35.220 --> 00:21:37.519 to get it paid back via support. And it gets 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:39.839 discouraging when the first few months in suddenly, 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:41.920 wait, I'm not making as much as I thought I would 00:21:41.920 --> 00:21:44.630 be making. And that's discouraging. So I think 00:21:44.630 --> 00:21:47.609 that's the advice. Be smart with your money and 00:21:47.609 --> 00:21:50.630 definitely hone in on personal skills that you 00:21:50.630 --> 00:21:52.829 don't have to hire out on. Yeah, I'd love that 00:21:52.829 --> 00:21:54.930 advice. I think that's really phenomenal advice, 00:21:55.410 --> 00:21:57.690 especially with the patients. That's something 00:21:57.690 --> 00:22:00.430 that in all content creation, no matter what 00:22:00.430 --> 00:22:05.230 platform you're on, we've told our podcast clients 00:22:05.230 --> 00:22:08.369 from day one that this is a long game. Yes, 100%. 00:22:08.369 --> 00:22:10.630 And we've talked about many times on this show. 00:22:10.910 --> 00:22:15.769 It's something like 96, 7 % of podcasts don't 00:22:15.769 --> 00:22:18.250 make it to episode 20. Right. And out of the 00:22:18.250 --> 00:22:21.029 ones who do, you know, the same percentage don't 00:22:21.029 --> 00:22:23.390 make it to episode 100, you know? Right, right. 00:22:24.369 --> 00:22:26.710 And that's one of those things is just consistency. 00:22:26.829 --> 00:22:30.269 Yes. Can be, even before you're good, if you're 00:22:30.269 --> 00:22:32.549 consistent, you will start to get somewhere. 00:22:32.869 --> 00:22:33.890 You get better with it, you know? And that's 00:22:33.890 --> 00:22:37.769 exactly it. Yep. I love to hear that. So last 00:22:37.769 --> 00:22:41.039 thing, I got two... I got two kind of top fives. 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:43.140 Okay. I'm gonna ask you your top five. We're 00:22:43.140 --> 00:22:47.519 gonna start with what are your top five all -time 00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:50.660 games? Oh, well, Rust, the one I keep mentioning. 00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:53.200 That's one or two, believe it or not, in terms 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:55.960 of who are ranking them. Okay. Rainbow Six Siege 00:22:55.960 --> 00:22:58.440 is the other competitor to my top two. All right. 00:22:58.720 --> 00:23:01.000 Yeah, I'm a big... I grew up on shooters, right? 00:23:01.140 --> 00:23:02.700 So that's kind of where that came from. I love 00:23:02.700 --> 00:23:05.119 that. Yeah. It's tough because those are the 00:23:05.119 --> 00:23:08.549 games that I mainly stick to right now. But Call 00:23:08.549 --> 00:23:11.430 of Duty has a place in my heart. The old days, 00:23:11.630 --> 00:23:13.849 Modern Warfare 1 and 2, you know, those are kind 00:23:13.849 --> 00:23:16.529 of home for me. And this one's probably going 00:23:16.529 --> 00:23:19.369 to get a laugh, but Fortnite is one that I do 00:23:19.369 --> 00:23:21.789 enjoy jumping around, you know, and so on there. 00:23:22.309 --> 00:23:23.170 I don't think there's anything wrong with that. 00:23:23.250 --> 00:23:25.970 You know, I say that because I'll say Fortnite 00:23:25.970 --> 00:23:28.160 to someone. You're one of those guys. And it's 00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:29.680 like, it's, you know, I think that people look 00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:31.240 at it sometimes as a kid's game or something. 00:23:31.259 --> 00:23:33.119 I'm like, I enjoy it for what it is. I think 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:35.519 it's got a good vibe to it. So, and I guess I 00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:37.819 am forgetting also, I'm a big Nintendo guy. So 00:23:37.819 --> 00:23:40.259 Pokemon, that's the first game that I ever played. 00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:42.599 So, you know, there's some nostalgia there, so. 00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:45.279 I love that, man. I love it. All right. Last 00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:48.180 question I'm going to ask you. Same type of deal. 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:52.039 Y 'all give me your top five streamers. Hmm. 00:23:53.220 --> 00:23:55.720 A .D. I hope you're listening. American Dad, 00:23:56.039 --> 00:23:58.880 he's a really cool dude, very real, authentic, 00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:02.180 energy, loud, and he's just good. He's just good 00:24:02.180 --> 00:24:05.500 all around. So American Dad, I like Tim the Tap 00:24:05.500 --> 00:24:08.019 Man. He's a good one. He actually started in 00:24:08.019 --> 00:24:10.099 Syracuse, believe it or not. Oh, wow. Yeah, he's 00:24:10.099 --> 00:24:12.859 like big, big name though. So he moved down south, 00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:16.599 and he's living up in Florida now. And this one's 00:24:16.599 --> 00:24:18.819 in three more, because I don't do a lot of watching 00:24:18.819 --> 00:24:21.220 is the problem for me right now at this point. 00:24:21.710 --> 00:24:23.230 There's some old people that I guess I could 00:24:23.230 --> 00:24:25.250 give some shout -outs to, like Carve 'em Up, 00:24:25.930 --> 00:24:28.549 Fisk, Klana, she's still doing her thing and 00:24:28.549 --> 00:24:31.210 she's an art streamer, so I do enjoy hers. She 00:24:31.210 --> 00:24:33.430 started small and she got big, big, big. Her 00:24:33.430 --> 00:24:35.309 illustrative work got better and better over 00:24:35.309 --> 00:24:37.690 time and she's, you know, sponsored by Logitech, 00:24:37.990 --> 00:24:39.569 works, I think, with World of Warcraft and so 00:24:39.569 --> 00:24:42.549 on. Wow. So I guess, you know, some of the OGs 00:24:42.549 --> 00:24:44.930 that don't really do too much anymore, I believe 00:24:44.930 --> 00:24:47.369 Fisk is pretty big on YouTube now, like over 00:24:47.369 --> 00:24:49.769 100 ,000 subs, but it doesn't stream anymore. 00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:52.339 Gotcha. So it's a tough, tough one for me to 00:24:52.339 --> 00:24:55.700 answer fully. Yeah. No, that's great, man. That's 00:24:55.700 --> 00:24:57.819 great. Uh, Sledge, this has been awesome. Uh, 00:24:57.839 --> 00:24:59.880 I really appreciate you coming on. I think you, 00:24:59.880 --> 00:25:02.680 uh, spread a lot of knowledge. Uh, we we've got 00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:04.819 a very wide rating ranging audience. So I think 00:25:04.819 --> 00:25:06.660 there's a lot of folks that are, are very much 00:25:06.660 --> 00:25:08.539 interested in these things and honestly have 00:25:08.539 --> 00:25:11.119 never clicked on Twitch. And, uh, and I wish 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:13.480 they would because, um, as much as we talk about 00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:15.359 gaming, there's all kinds of things. There's, 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:19.519 uh, There's podcasts. There's a news talk. There 00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:23.339 is a live traditional sports talk. Yup. Everything 00:25:23.339 --> 00:25:26.839 you can imagine. It really is kind of a TV network 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:30.960 put on by independent folks. 100%. Like we have 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:32.799 here. Different world. Different world. It's 00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:35.480 a cool place. Yes, it is. But Sledge, one more 00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:40.440 time. Let's give the plugs. So Sledge 315. Sledge 00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:44.609 like the hammer. 315. on Twitch, YouTube, anywhere 00:25:44.609 --> 00:25:46.150 you guys wanna look. Social media, I'm pretty 00:25:46.150 --> 00:25:47.869 much on all of them. I don't think I'm missing 00:25:47.869 --> 00:25:50.349 any there. And then my brand, VirusCo, if you 00:25:50.349 --> 00:25:53.170 wanna go to the website, it's VirusCo, V -Y -R 00:25:53.170 --> 00:25:57.970 -U -S -C -O .com. Go check it out, and no pressure. 00:25:58.009 --> 00:25:59.769 I always say to not pick anything up necessarily, 00:26:00.269 --> 00:26:01.789 but follow us on social media. It's the same 00:26:01.789 --> 00:26:04.569 spelling, VirusCo, on all those. And jump into 00:26:04.569 --> 00:26:06.289 our Discord. Get involved in a Discord event 00:26:06.289 --> 00:26:08.710 and have some fun with us. I love when people 00:26:08.710 --> 00:26:11.640 keep them consistent, you know? Uh, I'm this 00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:14.160 on this platform and I'm known as this on that 00:26:14.160 --> 00:26:16.039 one. And this one's got an extra underscore and 00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:18.579 like, yeah, it's for sure. Thank you for that 00:26:18.579 --> 00:26:21.759 consistency. Yeah, I try. Um, and honestly, I 00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:23.940 really kind of like the three one five as I'm 00:26:23.940 --> 00:26:25.859 playing a lot of, you know, online games against 00:26:25.859 --> 00:26:27.579 different competitors. There's a lot of folks 00:26:27.579 --> 00:26:29.480 that will do that. They'll put it in a clan tag 00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:30.700 or something, or they'll put it right in their 00:26:30.700 --> 00:26:32.980 name with that. And it's neat to go, Hey, look, 00:26:32.980 --> 00:26:34.579 I'm actually kind of playing against local people. 00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:37.880 That's neat. Yeah, for sure. I love it. So, uh, 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:40.180 Sledge, this has been great. We thank you very 00:26:40.180 --> 00:26:41.779 much. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. 00:26:42.380 --> 00:26:43.839 And anytime you got something cool going on, 00:26:43.900 --> 00:26:46.000 we'd be more than happy to have you back on the 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:47.700 program. For sure. I appreciate it. Definitely. 00:26:48.259 --> 00:26:49.859 And for everybody else with Good New York, we 00:26:49.859 --> 00:26:52.220 actually have another guest today. Mike leaves 00:26:52.220 --> 00:26:57.380 me for two interviews. This is wild. But we've 00:26:57.380 --> 00:27:00.660 got a great second guest, so do not hit the skip 00:27:00.660 --> 00:27:02.980 button yet. There's more. We'll be right back.