WEBVTT 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:25.800 Hey folks Welcome to good news York. I'm your 00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:28.980 host Matt major from growth mode content joined 00:00:28.980 --> 00:00:33.700 as always as my my slightly younger friend Slight 00:00:33.700 --> 00:00:36.320 from the big city of Herkimer as my seventh grade 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:38.460 science teacher used to say originally. Yes. 00:00:39.020 --> 00:00:43.420 Yep, originally. I'm a Hurka might Hurka what 00:00:43.420 --> 00:00:46.179 the fuck was what was your town Nick? Well, we 00:00:46.179 --> 00:00:47.659 were we were the cake. Yeah, you were the cake 00:00:47.659 --> 00:00:50.119 eaters. We were the pizza pushers Frankfurt was 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:53.500 a spaghetti twisters. Yeah, and then Spaghetti 00:00:53.500 --> 00:00:57.359 benders. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. And then mohawk 00:00:57.359 --> 00:01:00.880 was nothing mohawk was Well, you know the saying 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:04.040 in mohawk is well, there's always the goat Well, 00:01:04.060 --> 00:01:09.359 there's always the goat anyway Great Great weekend 00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:12.500 with a little better weather than we've experienced 00:01:12.500 --> 00:01:15.299 We had a little bit of sunshine We had a little 00:01:15.299 --> 00:01:17.879 bit of sunshine. I got to mow which always makes 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:21.579 me happy this weather thing It's you know, it's 00:01:21.579 --> 00:01:24.239 one of those things where you'd like Everybody's 00:01:24.239 --> 00:01:25.780 pissed off about it and there's nobody to get 00:01:25.780 --> 00:01:29.310 mad at Oh, the story of society. We all want 00:01:29.310 --> 00:01:31.090 to point the finger at something or something. 00:01:31.230 --> 00:01:32.650 And it's understandable, because it's ruining 00:01:32.650 --> 00:01:34.530 everybody's everything. No, I mean, it's been 00:01:34.530 --> 00:01:37.310 basically Seattle the last month. And, you know, 00:01:37.930 --> 00:01:39.590 we, unfortunately, a lot of people suffer with 00:01:39.590 --> 00:01:42.890 seasonal depression through the cold and gray 00:01:42.890 --> 00:01:45.549 months in New York. And it seems like that's 00:01:45.549 --> 00:01:48.909 just been dragged out. And that sucks. Yeah, 00:01:48.909 --> 00:01:50.650 that's why you just got to suffer from regular 00:01:50.650 --> 00:01:53.829 depression. It's way easier. Year round is more 00:01:53.829 --> 00:01:55.629 efficient. Way more efficient. You don't have 00:01:55.629 --> 00:01:57.180 to worry about the... weather check it and go 00:01:57.180 --> 00:02:00.120 am I gonna be depressed today what do you what 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:02.459 do you feel about some of the like the heat lamps 00:02:02.459 --> 00:02:04.159 to the salt lamp things of that nature that are 00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:07.099 supposed to help you know reduce that do you 00:02:07.099 --> 00:02:09.560 have any faith in those sorts of things I have 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:11.099 no I don't even know what you mean by the heat 00:02:11.099 --> 00:02:12.919 lamps or salt well so they have like a like a 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:15.900 bright you know sort of a simulated indoor Sun 00:02:15.900 --> 00:02:19.930 that's supposed to oh I feel better I think you 00:02:19.930 --> 00:02:21.990 know indoor lighting is great for when you're 00:02:21.990 --> 00:02:26.889 growing certain plants You know I I think there's 00:02:26.889 --> 00:02:29.229 there's some validity in those lamps Yeah, you 00:02:29.229 --> 00:02:31.250 know I'm a big advocate of mental health and 00:02:31.250 --> 00:02:33.909 whatever works works. I mean it makes sense There's 00:02:33.909 --> 00:02:38.449 this app. I downloaded the other night You get 00:02:38.449 --> 00:02:41.509 a lot of apps. I do I do it's actually asinine 00:02:41.509 --> 00:02:45.430 weird. It's called Luminate, okay, L -U -M -E 00:02:45.430 --> 00:02:50.080 -N -A -T -E and it offers you this light therapy. 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:52.180 So that like before you go to bed. Yeah, you 00:02:52.180 --> 00:02:54.639 were talking about this, okay. Yeah, so you fill 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:56.740 out like what you want to get out of this light 00:02:56.740 --> 00:02:58.580 therapy and then it gives you before you pay 00:02:58.580 --> 00:03:00.740 for the app, it gives you like a free run. Yeah. 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:03.120 And it's about 10 minutes long. The first one's 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:05.800 free, kid. Yeah, exactly. And you use the flashlight 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:07.439 on your phone and you lay there with headphones 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:10.620 on in the dark and I swear to God, it was one 00:03:10.620 --> 00:03:13.400 of the most insane experiences. Really? It's 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:17.289 almost like... You dream, but you're awake. It's 00:03:17.289 --> 00:03:20.909 like you're in a subconscious hypnosis. All right. 00:03:21.409 --> 00:03:24.250 But you also are seeing things with your eyes 00:03:24.250 --> 00:03:26.370 closed. And then the next day, I felt great, 00:03:26.430 --> 00:03:28.750 which could be the placebo effect. But man, I'm 00:03:28.750 --> 00:03:31.610 telling you, based on that, I think - If it were 00:03:31.610 --> 00:03:33.710 to initiate a placebo effect, I feel like that's 00:03:33.710 --> 00:03:36.150 a positive. Absolutely. Right? Yeah, because 00:03:36.150 --> 00:03:37.509 it worked. At the end of the day, you feel better. 00:03:37.509 --> 00:03:39.370 At the end of the day, I feel better. But it 00:03:39.370 --> 00:03:43.500 was intense. I recommend everyone try that. So 00:03:43.500 --> 00:03:45.580 that brings me to answer your question, which, 00:03:45.699 --> 00:03:49.039 yeah, I think Salt Lamps, if that works, if the 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:51.020 flashlight on my damn iPhone works, why wouldn't 00:03:51.020 --> 00:03:53.039 those work? You got me there. There's another 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:54.979 app I found. You know what that reminds me of? 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:56.960 There's an old episode of Star Trek. Danny might 00:03:56.960 --> 00:03:58.800 remember this. He's almost as much of a nerd 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:03.580 as I am. I believe it was episode two or three. 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:05.060 It was one of the first ones. It was called The 00:04:05.060 --> 00:04:06.620 Game, and everybody got hooked on this thing. 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:10.150 And in the end... Data being the robot the only 00:04:10.150 --> 00:04:12.550 one that couldn't have been hypnotized basically 00:04:12.550 --> 00:04:16.329 by this thing Programmed a flashlight to flash 00:04:16.329 --> 00:04:18.889 in a code to like decode everybody just reminds 00:04:18.889 --> 00:04:20.410 me of exactly what you're talking about Yeah, 00:04:20.449 --> 00:04:22.649 or like men in black when they would erase their 00:04:22.649 --> 00:04:25.490 similar concept similar concept. Yeah, it's actually 00:04:25.490 --> 00:04:28.250 men in black I always wanted one of those Everything 00:04:28.250 --> 00:04:30.069 cool came from Star Trek dude. There's another 00:04:30.069 --> 00:04:33.089 app and I know it's the morning but it's called 00:04:33.089 --> 00:04:35.990 the hold app I read it through the comments on 00:04:35.990 --> 00:04:41.519 social media hold it's male Kegel exercises so 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:44.120 that you can last longer in the bedroom. And 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:46.720 the reason I found it, I was reading a complaint, 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:49.720 a woman was complaining to like some newspaper 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:54.139 or social media outlet about how her, basically 00:04:54.139 --> 00:04:56.319 her lover ended up cheating on her because he 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:59.819 could finally, you know, last a little longer 00:04:59.819 --> 00:05:02.879 if you know what I'm saying. So, um, my point 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:05.939 of bringing that up is forget light therapy. 00:05:06.259 --> 00:05:08.589 No, uh, There's something for everything out 00:05:08.589 --> 00:05:10.129 there. If you really go into that app store, 00:05:10.329 --> 00:05:12.209 man, it gets scary. Remember the old slogan, 00:05:12.389 --> 00:05:14.589 there's an app for that? Yeah, it's true. I feel 00:05:14.589 --> 00:05:16.250 like that, I don't know why that ever sort of 00:05:16.250 --> 00:05:18.990 faded away, because it still is the most accurate 00:05:18.990 --> 00:05:21.970 slogan statement, whatever. I feel like you would 00:05:21.970 --> 00:05:23.850 have some really good app ideas. Do you have 00:05:23.850 --> 00:05:25.629 any of them? Ideas? Yeah, you have any? Yeah, 00:05:25.670 --> 00:05:27.370 no, I'm not one of those app guys. I fucking 00:05:27.370 --> 00:05:28.910 hate apps, to be completely honest with you. 00:05:29.129 --> 00:05:32.110 And maybe it's because I have built a few. a 00:05:32.110 --> 00:05:34.430 number of specifically like radio station media 00:05:34.430 --> 00:05:37.050 apps or e -commerce types of apps. They're just 00:05:37.050 --> 00:05:39.750 a pain in the nuts. They're hard to maintain. 00:05:39.930 --> 00:05:41.569 You got to go through all these different steps 00:05:41.569 --> 00:05:44.370 with both platforms and they have radically different 00:05:44.370 --> 00:05:47.269 steps. So if you want your app to work for Android 00:05:47.269 --> 00:05:48.769 or iPhone, that's why you see a lot of these 00:05:48.769 --> 00:05:51.509 big complicated ones will start off for a long 00:05:51.509 --> 00:05:54.720 time on just one of the platforms. It's a huge 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:57.519 pain in the ass. And also, the majority of the 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:01.439 things to date that I've wanted to do, you can 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:03.639 do with a website. So if you have a properly 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:05.899 formatted mobile website, you don't need an app. 00:06:05.980 --> 00:06:08.319 That's true. You don't mess with Apple or any 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:11.480 of that. You just say, here's the link. And you're 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:13.800 done. I agree with you. I had two app ideas. 00:06:13.980 --> 00:06:16.100 One, somebody took. And it's a brilliant account 00:06:16.100 --> 00:06:19.080 to follow. I wish I could remember it. having 00:06:19.080 --> 00:06:21.819 IBS finding a bathroom is important especially 00:06:21.819 --> 00:06:24.240 one that's clean and there's this woman who's 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:27.740 doing God's work in New York City where she posts 00:06:27.740 --> 00:06:30.740 videos post content of showing you like West 00:06:30.740 --> 00:06:32.560 Village you got to check this bathroom out and 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:35.379 she shows the sink and the and and how private 00:06:35.379 --> 00:06:38.360 group called where Syracuse poops that's great 00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:40.319 I love that you got to send me the link it's 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:42.699 really more of a parody the other the other idea 00:06:42.699 --> 00:06:45.920 I had was an app where cuz doesn't doesn't Google 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:48.589 Maps show you a lot of Public restrooms, you 00:06:48.589 --> 00:06:51.189 know yeah, but listen you know what you're walking 00:06:51.189 --> 00:06:53.750 in exactly and that's why I'm I very much appreciate 00:06:53.750 --> 00:06:56.009 what this person Yeah, remember those old gas 00:06:56.009 --> 00:06:57.689 station bathrooms where you'd have like a baseball 00:06:57.689 --> 00:06:59.990 bat attached to the key Here's the key and it 00:06:59.990 --> 00:07:02.269 was like the filthiest a sheet of plywood or 00:07:02.269 --> 00:07:05.069 yeah, like I didn't steal it Yeah, right like 00:07:05.069 --> 00:07:07.649 you're gonna steal and uh you would have to wash 00:07:07.649 --> 00:07:10.100 your hands before you pee because you're your 00:07:10.100 --> 00:07:11.639 wiener was the cleanest thing you'd touch in 00:07:11.639 --> 00:07:12.860 there. I mean, it was... Here's the thing. You 00:07:12.860 --> 00:07:14.660 pull up one of those gas stations late at night, 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:16.720 you don't ask for the key to use the shady bathroom 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:18.899 around the back. You just piss behind the dumpster. 00:07:18.899 --> 00:07:22.060 Oh, 100%. Like... Yeah. That is the safest... 00:07:22.060 --> 00:07:26.000 I mean... Cleanest spot in the entire shady ass. 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:29.279 Yeah. My other app idea was, you know, I don't 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:31.019 know about you. I feel like you're along these 00:07:31.019 --> 00:07:33.180 lines. A lot of times, I'll just ask my wife, 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:35.790 like... What's the temperature outside? And she's 00:07:35.790 --> 00:07:38.930 like, 74. And I'm like, is that long sleeve jacket? 00:07:39.269 --> 00:07:41.189 So I was like, what about an app where you kind 00:07:41.189 --> 00:07:43.949 of input what your style is, right? Like they 00:07:43.949 --> 00:07:46.850 do for when they send you a box of stuff, right? 00:07:46.910 --> 00:07:48.750 Usually you put in your style and they send you 00:07:48.750 --> 00:07:50.850 a box of stuff you tried on. This one you put 00:07:50.850 --> 00:07:54.540 in your style and they don't say like. The exact 00:07:54.540 --> 00:07:56.579 t -shirt you would wear but you would wake up 00:07:56.579 --> 00:07:58.639 you click on the app and it would say Mike today's 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:02.279 a jeans t -shirt Long -sleeve day or today's 00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:05.300 a jacket day or a sweater day because I'm a guy 00:08:05.300 --> 00:08:08.180 I'm lazy, you know Alexa could do that. I'm not 00:08:08.180 --> 00:08:10.759 sure no she's kind of dumb It's getting better. 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:15.199 I hate to do this. I really do, but I too actually 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:17.639 have an app idea, and let me know what you guys 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:18.939 think about it. Oh yeah, I want to hear this. 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:21.879 This is great. So, you know, we specialize in 00:08:21.879 --> 00:08:25.660 content creation, and a lot of the time copyright 00:08:25.660 --> 00:08:28.720 infringement is a big thing with songs and music 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:32.259 and stuff. So what if there was an app, and the 00:08:32.259 --> 00:08:36.279 name of the app is called Muse, and what it does 00:08:36.279 --> 00:08:39.700 is you upload Little portion of the song that 00:08:39.700 --> 00:08:43.200 you want to use like for example Hit me, baby 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:46.000 one more time see if it's been written not that 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:51.519 but then it uses AI to make Kitten create something 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:55.639 in that style in that style as kitten meows So 00:08:55.639 --> 00:08:59.039 meow meow meow meow meow meow meow in that tone 00:08:59.039 --> 00:09:01.139 and everything and then you can take that audio 00:09:01.139 --> 00:09:03.409 and upload it to your What do you think about 00:09:03.409 --> 00:09:05.690 that? I will invest in this if, exclusively, 00:09:05.809 --> 00:09:07.889 if we can make you the voice of it. Oh, yeah, 00:09:07.950 --> 00:09:09.509 yeah. First of all, you have to be doing the 00:09:09.509 --> 00:09:11.950 meow. That was a rollercoaster of emotions for 00:09:11.950 --> 00:09:13.870 me. I was so invested, because Danny's got great 00:09:13.870 --> 00:09:15.629 ideas. He had no idea where that was going. And 00:09:15.629 --> 00:09:17.809 now it turned to more of a parody thing, and 00:09:17.809 --> 00:09:20.009 I actually love it more. I think I love it more. 00:09:20.309 --> 00:09:23.250 Because I actually had the idea, too, as a songwriter, 00:09:23.429 --> 00:09:25.909 joke writer, where you upload maybe a melody 00:09:25.909 --> 00:09:28.720 into something. And then it says, ah, nice try. 00:09:28.860 --> 00:09:32.139 Foo Fighters already wrote that. Or sorry, Carly 00:09:32.139 --> 00:09:34.580 Simon's got that one. Yeah, I mean, they're probably. 00:09:34.639 --> 00:09:37.639 I mean, a lot of like the YouTube tools, when 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:39.399 you upload our videos, they'll actually do a 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:41.759 copyright scan before you post it. YouTube is 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:44.419 the strictest. Right. Right. In fact, I dare 00:09:44.419 --> 00:09:47.320 say too strict. In some cases. Many folks would 00:09:47.320 --> 00:09:49.659 say that. Yeah. We have a guest coming. We do. 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:54.740 We do. And his name is Nick. Is he here? Sanford 00:09:54.740 --> 00:09:57.740 no, it should be any second Nick Sanford wait 00:09:57.740 --> 00:09:59.879 to say that until he was ready to come in Nick 00:09:59.879 --> 00:10:02.139 says Nick's a text that I didn't get or something 00:10:02.139 --> 00:10:03.779 Well, he did text me a few minutes ago. I said 00:10:03.779 --> 00:10:06.340 1035 a GPS said so he should be rolling in right 00:10:06.340 --> 00:10:10.539 now We are gonna take a break and we have Nick 00:10:10.539 --> 00:10:13.100 Sanford from toss and fire Which we've talked 00:10:13.100 --> 00:10:15.059 a lot about on here and we've ate a lot of their 00:10:15.059 --> 00:10:18.399 stuff before we do that I got to talk about our 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:20.940 man Zach on ads on the go do that nice go ahead 00:10:20.940 --> 00:10:24.879 dude I am so excited about this You know as we 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:27.580 talked about ads on the go is now an official 00:10:27.580 --> 00:10:31.519 sponsor of Good News York and we are also working 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:34.940 with them and promoting Good News York as well 00:10:34.940 --> 00:10:37.940 as all of our growth mode content clients on 00:10:37.940 --> 00:10:41.179 the sides of that incredible mobile billboard 00:10:41.179 --> 00:10:44.429 truck. It's amazing. It is. I mean, this is the 00:10:44.429 --> 00:10:46.809 picture of the truck, too. Right. Right. And 00:10:46.809 --> 00:10:49.490 there'll be more and more. We're making the slides, 00:10:49.490 --> 00:10:51.590 the ads, whatever you want to call them that 00:10:51.590 --> 00:10:53.429 will go on the truck for, again, not only our 00:10:53.429 --> 00:10:56.529 show, but all of our clients podcasts. So we're 00:10:56.529 --> 00:10:57.870 making those now and those are going to go up 00:10:57.870 --> 00:10:59.250 on the truck. And as soon as they do, we'll have 00:10:59.250 --> 00:11:02.409 some really awesome photos of those in action. 00:11:02.730 --> 00:11:04.509 But we're going to be doing a lot of things. 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:08.320 through this sponsorship that Zach and his company 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:10.580 has provided to us, because we get more than 00:11:10.580 --> 00:11:13.080 just the driving around advertising, we'll save 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:16.000 some details, but we got these guys on the hook 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:18.179 to do a lot of cool things with us. And it's 00:11:18.179 --> 00:11:21.200 amazing, especially for a kid his age to dive 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:25.980 into that and just pioneer this new age of digital 00:11:25.980 --> 00:11:29.639 billboarding. Such impressive, impressive young 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:33.519 man, great business idea, great business model, 00:11:33.820 --> 00:11:35.700 the way they've designed it to make it super 00:11:35.700 --> 00:11:37.580 affordable. Yeah, totally. You know, billboards 00:11:37.580 --> 00:11:42.080 are an expensive thing. Very. They make it very 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:44.320 much not so he starts at what 350 I was gonna 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:47.360 say it was like three or 350 you get a whole 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:49.100 month of advertising and you got to see this 00:11:49.100 --> 00:11:51.899 truck I mean there is video on all sides. It's 00:11:51.899 --> 00:11:54.639 huge, which by the way, if you do see us I want 00:11:54.639 --> 00:11:57.320 to get some feedback hit us up producer at growth 00:11:57.320 --> 00:12:00.080 mode tech comm you can email that anytime if 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:02.259 you have any questions comments concerns insults 00:12:02.259 --> 00:12:04.340 anything you want us to talk about but Let us 00:12:04.340 --> 00:12:07.139 know if you see us on the highway around Snap 00:12:07.139 --> 00:12:08.879 some photos send them in or snap some photos 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:11.720 and send it. There you go We'll give you something. 00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:14.120 Yeah, exactly. We'll give you a pizza. We'll 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:16.600 give you Danny's t -shirt. All right. We will 00:12:16.600 --> 00:12:18.659 be the one he's wearing. And we'll make sure 00:12:18.659 --> 00:12:21.399 he sweats in it first. And we'll let him record 00:12:21.399 --> 00:12:25.460 a meow ringtone on your phone. Meow. It's a whole 00:12:25.460 --> 00:12:29.620 suite. Can we put Danny on what's that app? The 00:12:29.620 --> 00:12:34.840 one where you... Grindr? Sell. Oh. New app. The 00:12:34.840 --> 00:12:39.070 ones where... What is it? Cameo. Oh my God. Good 00:12:39.070 --> 00:12:41.730 if Danny Tripodi cat voice video. Here's the 00:12:41.730 --> 00:12:45.269 question. What what $49? Uh -huh. That's not 00:12:45.269 --> 00:12:47.889 bad. I'm thinking I don't know I don't know how 00:12:47.889 --> 00:12:49.690 that platform works. How much does the platform 00:12:49.690 --> 00:12:51.870 get first? Well, I've used it. I've used it I 00:12:51.870 --> 00:12:55.649 gave my wife the the head doctor on Grey's Anatomy 00:12:55.649 --> 00:12:58.919 did one for her and Susan Waldman of the Yankees 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:02.200 for my mom. So it's all different prices. Like 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:05.379 your big celebrities, you're looking anywhere 00:13:05.379 --> 00:13:08.779 from 250 to 500, maybe 1 ,000. For what kind 00:13:08.779 --> 00:13:11.379 of, like how long of a video? It depends. Usually 00:13:11.379 --> 00:13:13.840 they'll do like a minute to two minutes. Okay. 00:13:14.019 --> 00:13:15.720 Maybe even three minutes, some of them, if they 00:13:15.720 --> 00:13:18.080 love the chat like me. Imagine making 250 a minute. 00:13:18.439 --> 00:13:20.220 But the thing is, like, there's some people that 00:13:20.220 --> 00:13:21.580 really commit to it and they go, look, somebody 00:13:21.580 --> 00:13:23.580 paid for this. I'm going to do this right. Then 00:13:23.580 --> 00:13:25.259 there's some that are just like, really, dude? 00:13:25.299 --> 00:13:28.100 You didn't put any effort. Right, right. But 00:13:28.100 --> 00:13:29.919 do you have any idea what the platform gets out 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:31.480 of that, what their cut might be? Does it tell 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:34.039 you? I think it does tell you. I mean, obviously, 00:13:34.139 --> 00:13:37.419 I think it's a percentage, maybe like a 10%. 00:13:37.419 --> 00:13:39.460 I always want to know the business model behind 00:13:39.460 --> 00:13:42.370 this shit. It's such a great. Idea it is so good. 00:13:42.570 --> 00:13:44.070 We should have done that all right anyway. We're 00:13:44.070 --> 00:13:46.250 gonna take a break We'll be back good news York 00:13:46.250 --> 00:13:48.330 sponsored by ads on the go get ads on the go 00:13:48.330 --> 00:13:50.830 calm We'll be back with Nick Sanford tossing 00:13:50.830 --> 00:14:08.220 fire All right, welcome back to good news York 00:14:08.220 --> 00:14:10.320 sponsored by ads on the go get ads on the go 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:14.100 calm I am here with a very special guest a celebrity 00:14:14.100 --> 00:14:18.580 to us because we love your food Nick Sanford 00:14:18.580 --> 00:14:22.179 from toss -and -fire pizza right here in Syracuse 00:14:22.179 --> 00:14:24.000 Nick I know that was weak. It was one person 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:26.000 clapping. Thanks for coming on man. Thanks for 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:30.919 having me. Good morning so toss -and -fire is 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:33.440 The first thing that stands out first of all 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:35.600 great name How'd you come up with that name? 00:14:36.980 --> 00:14:39.919 I honestly by luck so like when I decided I wanted 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:43.080 to start a mobile we wanted to start a mobile 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:46.779 trailer food truck trailer mm -hmm and I had 00:14:46.779 --> 00:14:50.659 like a little like notebook and we started just 00:14:50.659 --> 00:14:54.120 writing random yeah we had like Flames and Embers. 00:14:54.899 --> 00:14:58.600 It was just like, what things said pizza and 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:00.980 fire, right? So we were trying to put these things 00:15:00.980 --> 00:15:04.159 together, and I kind of narrowed it down that 00:15:04.159 --> 00:15:08.720 it was gonna be something and something. And 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:10.899 some terrible, I had like Scorched Embers was 00:15:10.899 --> 00:15:13.519 one of the names. Sounds like a metal band from 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:15.899 Iceland. I had some really bad names. And I was 00:15:15.899 --> 00:15:18.850 like, no, I think this is the one. that we just 00:15:18.850 --> 00:15:20.870 picked Toss and Fire. It's a great name. Well, 00:15:21.049 --> 00:15:23.889 thank you. So the first time I was introduced 00:15:23.889 --> 00:15:28.269 to your food was we had a little mini lunch celebration 00:15:28.269 --> 00:15:33.669 here. And first I saw the branding, like the 00:15:33.669 --> 00:15:35.389 name Toss and Fire. I go, oh, that's a great 00:15:35.389 --> 00:15:38.870 name. And the way everything was packaged. And 00:15:38.870 --> 00:15:43.649 then the big part, I had a taste of it. And here's 00:15:43.649 --> 00:15:46.850 the thing. People maybe people that aren't from 00:15:46.850 --> 00:15:48.809 New York or other places that are known for pizza 00:15:48.809 --> 00:15:50.809 might think it's pizza How can how different 00:15:50.809 --> 00:15:53.649 can it be? But yours really is unique and I'd 00:15:53.649 --> 00:15:55.129 love for you to tell me I don't want you to give 00:15:55.129 --> 00:15:58.610 away any secret recipes but you guys are unique 00:15:58.610 --> 00:16:02.230 in the way that you cook it and in the way that 00:16:02.230 --> 00:16:05.230 The toppings you have and we got to talk about 00:16:05.230 --> 00:16:09.250 the garlic chips. Holy hell. Anyway So tell me 00:16:09.250 --> 00:16:11.750 what what makes you guys unique. What is your 00:16:11.750 --> 00:16:15.370 style? So I have always looked at pizza as like 00:16:15.370 --> 00:16:18.649 a blank canvas. It's kind of always been my philosophy 00:16:18.649 --> 00:16:22.970 about it. And I think of it a lot like how sandwiches 00:16:22.970 --> 00:16:24.669 are. You can put anything on a sandwich. You 00:16:24.669 --> 00:16:27.210 can put anything on a pizza. Obviously, you have 00:16:27.210 --> 00:16:29.149 traditionalists. They want pepperoni. They want 00:16:29.149 --> 00:16:31.690 sausage and mushroom. They want cheese, whatever. 00:16:31.870 --> 00:16:34.590 That's me. And then you have people who want 00:16:34.590 --> 00:16:38.840 to try different, unique things. One of my big 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:40.600 things when we started was that we were gonna 00:16:40.600 --> 00:16:44.259 have some like signature pizzas and I had on 00:16:44.259 --> 00:16:46.639 my original menu, I had mashed potato pizza. 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:48.399 We were gonna do a mashed potato pizza. What? 00:16:48.620 --> 00:16:51.059 And my buddy Matt was like, dude, you should 00:16:51.059 --> 00:16:53.259 do salt potatoes. It's like a huge Syracuse thing. 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:56.159 That is. So we took salt potatoes and like literally 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:58.100 did the exact pie we were gonna do, but used 00:16:58.100 --> 00:17:00.159 salt potatoes for it and it's become our best 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:02.679 seller. People know us for it. They love it. 00:17:02.759 --> 00:17:05.099 It's, it's, you know, and we kind of built off 00:17:05.099 --> 00:17:06.680 of that. We were like, okay, well that worked. 00:17:06.740 --> 00:17:09.140 Let's do this one and like so when we started 00:17:09.140 --> 00:17:11.059 we had three specialty pizzas that were like 00:17:11.059 --> 00:17:13.980 our main ones it was the salt potato the cheeky 00:17:13.980 --> 00:17:16.099 monkey pizza which is made with cheeky monkey 00:17:16.099 --> 00:17:18.380 tomato oil which i literally found in a store 00:17:18.380 --> 00:17:20.779 here and was like this is really good and then 00:17:20.779 --> 00:17:23.759 we put it on a pizza and then our fig and pig 00:17:23.759 --> 00:17:25.279 pizza was the other one that was like one of 00:17:25.279 --> 00:17:27.319 our main ones when we started which was just 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:30.519 like it's sweet it's salty it like it all kind 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:32.700 of combines and works well together and we built 00:17:32.700 --> 00:17:35.119 off of that over the years like it's all it's 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:37.700 always been about being different and unique 00:17:37.700 --> 00:17:41.660 and, you know, not the everyday thing you can 00:17:41.660 --> 00:17:44.259 get at any of the hundreds of pizza places. Right, 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:46.480 but here's what I love about you and about Toss 00:17:46.480 --> 00:17:49.410 and Fire. I've heard that same rap before of 00:17:49.410 --> 00:17:51.289 like, we just want to do something that no one's 00:17:51.289 --> 00:17:53.230 ever done. And here's the problem with that. 00:17:53.410 --> 00:17:56.210 They do, but then they miss the mark on the traditional 00:17:56.210 --> 00:17:59.049 things. What I love about you and your business 00:17:59.049 --> 00:18:02.049 is that Toss and Fire does have the unique salt 00:18:02.049 --> 00:18:05.170 potato pizza, by the way, the pickle pizza, holy 00:18:05.170 --> 00:18:09.690 hell. But then if I get, like you said, I'm a 00:18:09.690 --> 00:18:13.480 traditional mushroom or pepperoni. You nail it. 00:18:13.740 --> 00:18:15.660 And like, my rule of thumb is like, when you 00:18:15.660 --> 00:18:18.400 break the crust, you know, does the grease come 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:22.460 down? Is it triangular? And you nail all that. 00:18:22.740 --> 00:18:25.940 Also, I always wondered, because I feel like 00:18:25.940 --> 00:18:28.660 the sauce is kind of like, that's the thing, 00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:32.500 right? The sauce is the main player. Do you spend 00:18:32.500 --> 00:18:34.500 a lot of time like trying to perfect the sauce 00:18:34.500 --> 00:18:36.200 ahead of time, or did you already have this and 00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:38.160 you knew like, this is the ingredients I use, 00:18:38.200 --> 00:18:40.509 this is what I'm going with? I remember the first 00:18:40.509 --> 00:18:42.329 when I was first the first year I was in business 00:18:42.329 --> 00:18:45.930 and like the leading up to that I literally drove 00:18:45.930 --> 00:18:48.849 my wife insane because like I tried like 20 something 00:18:48.849 --> 00:18:52.150 different really types of tomatoes and like all 00:18:52.150 --> 00:18:54.589 of these things and like Actually when we started 00:18:54.589 --> 00:18:57.150 we were using like imported Italian tomatoes 00:18:57.150 --> 00:19:00.430 and we switched like two years in to these really 00:19:00.430 --> 00:19:03.950 really great California tomatoes That I think 00:19:03.950 --> 00:19:06.470 are are honestly just as good if not better than 00:19:06.470 --> 00:19:10.269 the Italian tomatoes. Yeah And so that's kind 00:19:10.269 --> 00:19:12.869 of where we landed and how we got to where it 00:19:12.869 --> 00:19:17.190 is now. But I'm just a big, I'm a big fan of 00:19:17.190 --> 00:19:19.750 a lot of different products in the pizza space 00:19:19.750 --> 00:19:21.670 and I've gotten to know some of these companies 00:19:21.670 --> 00:19:24.210 and some of these, like I've met owners of companies 00:19:24.210 --> 00:19:26.799 and higher ups of these companies and like. There's 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:28.480 just some really great products out there and 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:31.339 we're fortunate to use them. See, I knew. I knew 00:19:31.339 --> 00:19:33.039 you didn't just throw it together. You can taste 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:35.779 that you dialed it in. For sure. So let's talk 00:19:35.779 --> 00:19:37.480 about that. How did this all come about? What 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:39.720 were you doing before you decided to open Toss 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:42.240 and Fire? So I've been in the restaurant industry 00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:43.779 my whole life. That was the first thing I ever 00:19:43.779 --> 00:19:45.859 did. I was 14 years old. I'm from Connecticut 00:19:45.859 --> 00:19:48.819 originally. I worked in a pizza shop in Connecticut. 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:53.839 It's called Bellinapoli. I used to like ride 00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:55.079 my bike or walk down the street because they 00:19:55.079 --> 00:19:57.619 were right down the street from me. after school, 00:19:57.740 --> 00:20:00.099 get a slice of pizza or a garlic bread with cheese 00:20:00.099 --> 00:20:02.700 was like my favorite thing there. And there was 00:20:02.700 --> 00:20:06.359 a cashier server named Barbara. And I'm sitting 00:20:06.359 --> 00:20:08.700 there eating my garlic bread and she goes, she 00:20:08.700 --> 00:20:10.319 goes, Nick, do you want to, do you want a job? 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:12.559 And I was like, I was like, yeah. And she said, 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:14.279 you want to, we need someone to bus tables on 00:20:14.279 --> 00:20:16.559 Friday and Saturday nights. And I was like, okay. 00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:17.920 It's like, it's five bucks an hour. I was like, 00:20:18.019 --> 00:20:21.259 sounds great. And I started wiping down tables 00:20:21.259 --> 00:20:24.339 and I, and I literally got into this thing. And 00:20:24.339 --> 00:20:25.880 I don't know if I did something else. I would 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:28.200 have loved it as much as I as I do the restaurant 00:20:28.200 --> 00:20:30.839 business. But I started wiping tables at this 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:33.819 restaurant, watching the way things moved and 00:20:33.819 --> 00:20:36.339 the interactions with customers and how the cooks 00:20:36.339 --> 00:20:39.180 in the back were making the pizzas and just the 00:20:39.180 --> 00:20:41.299 hustle and bustle of the restaurant industry. 00:20:41.380 --> 00:20:43.700 I literally fell in love. Like I was like, this 00:20:43.700 --> 00:20:45.759 is like this is the coolest thing I've ever seen 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:49.160 in my life as a 14 year old. Absolutely. And 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:52.680 from there, they let me into the kitchen. I learned 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:54.140 how to answer the phones. I learned how to wait 00:20:54.140 --> 00:20:56.819 tables. I washed dishes. I cut pizzas. Then I 00:20:56.819 --> 00:20:58.920 got to learn how to make them. And I got to do 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:01.559 the dinners. And so everything kind of built 00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:05.019 off of that foundation when I was wiping down 00:21:05.019 --> 00:21:08.220 tables. I was like, this is cool. And I wanted 00:21:08.220 --> 00:21:11.119 to learn more. And because I was eager, they 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:14.079 were like, yeah, let's come on in. Because a 00:21:14.079 --> 00:21:16.920 lot of people didn't want to do that. No, especially 00:21:16.920 --> 00:21:21.859 that age. I was really into it. So I did all 00:21:21.859 --> 00:21:23.539 of that. And then after school, when I finished 00:21:23.539 --> 00:21:25.220 high school, I ended up going to culinary school 00:21:25.220 --> 00:21:26.940 to kind of get some of the foundations because 00:21:26.940 --> 00:21:29.279 all I knew was this piece. I never did anything 00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:32.019 else. So I was like I needed to like learn how 00:21:32.019 --> 00:21:34.839 to work in like other kinds of kitchens and stuff. 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:37.460 So I did fine dining for a while. My father -in 00:21:37.460 --> 00:21:41.019 -law was an executive chef at a fine dining seafood 00:21:41.019 --> 00:21:45.660 place. So he brought me in as a line cook. I 00:21:45.660 --> 00:21:48.960 got to learn how to like break down fish and 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:51.640 cook lobster and make mashed potatoes from scratch 00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:54.720 and rice pilaf and cutting vegetables like doing 00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:56.779 all these things that like I didn't really you 00:21:56.779 --> 00:21:59.859 know pizzas like specific to pizza right but 00:21:59.859 --> 00:22:02.240 you knew it was necessary yeah yeah so I did 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:05.500 that for a while and then I got into you know 00:22:05.500 --> 00:22:07.460 when you're a line cook or you're a cook you 00:22:07.460 --> 00:22:09.599 you find out that there's obviously more money 00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:12.420 in management, right? So I ended up going to 00:22:12.420 --> 00:22:14.359 school, like community college for hospitality 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:18.279 management. From there I went and got a job at 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:19.680 Panera Bread. I was a manager at Panera. Heck 00:22:19.680 --> 00:22:22.619 yeah. Yep. So that's how I ended up in Syracuse. 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:25.759 I transferred with Panera to the Cicero Cafe. 00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:28.980 Me and my wife moved up here. We bought our house. 00:22:29.019 --> 00:22:30.660 It was cheaper to live here than Connecticut. 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:35.380 Yeah. And then I was doing the Panera thing and 00:22:35.380 --> 00:22:36.799 I was like, I don't want to do this anymore. 00:22:38.740 --> 00:22:41.480 started researching pizza trailers. One of the 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:44.000 first things I noticed when I was in central 00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:48.160 New York was there wasn't a lot of food trucks 00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:51.220 in general, but there were no pizza trucks. In 00:22:51.220 --> 00:22:52.700 Connecticut, we had tons of pizza trucks. It 00:22:52.700 --> 00:22:54.980 was very common. We used to go to this great 00:22:54.980 --> 00:22:56.740 one called the Big Green Pizza Truck, and they 00:22:56.740 --> 00:22:58.200 used to set up at a farmer's market that we could 00:22:58.200 --> 00:23:02.440 walk to from our apartment. And I saw them doing 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:04.000 their thing, and I was like, that's really cool. 00:23:04.299 --> 00:23:06.259 It was kind of in the back of my head. I went 00:23:06.259 --> 00:23:09.059 on with my life. moved and a couple years later, 00:23:09.059 --> 00:23:10.799 I was like, I should do something like the big 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:13.779 green pizza truck. Yeah. And so I started researching 00:23:13.779 --> 00:23:16.180 and talking to people, whoever would talk to 00:23:16.180 --> 00:23:18.039 me. Like, I just started like reaching out to 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:19.420 people who were doing it in other parts of the 00:23:19.420 --> 00:23:21.720 country and trying to pick their brain and get 00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:24.619 information and kind of put a plan together. 00:23:24.940 --> 00:23:27.400 And that's kind of how it like went from one 00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:29.660 thing to another. That's amazing. Nick, that's 00:23:29.660 --> 00:23:32.220 amazing. I mean, I already had respect for you, 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:35.099 but I have more respect now because I Some of 00:23:35.099 --> 00:23:36.920 the best, because I worked in the service industry 00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:39.539 as a server bartender for a long time before 00:23:39.539 --> 00:23:42.220 this. And you didn't always come across owners 00:23:42.220 --> 00:23:45.160 that were involved. Sometimes you come across 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:47.420 owners who got some money and wanted to open 00:23:47.420 --> 00:23:48.980 a restaurant, but they weren't in love with it. 00:23:49.259 --> 00:23:51.819 More importantly, they... They didn't. I think 00:23:51.819 --> 00:23:53.539 it's so important, especially if you're going 00:23:53.539 --> 00:23:55.660 to own a restaurant, to know what you have to 00:23:55.660 --> 00:23:57.720 go through to wash dishes and be on the line 00:23:57.720 --> 00:23:59.579 and, you know, just makes you a better owner 00:23:59.579 --> 00:24:01.619 and have an appreciation. I always said everybody 00:24:01.619 --> 00:24:03.880 in the world should have to work in the service 00:24:03.880 --> 00:24:06.059 industry for at least a month. So you just you 00:24:06.059 --> 00:24:08.619 learn so much about yourself and just about society 00:24:08.619 --> 00:24:11.359 in general. So you started with the food truck 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:15.559 and then I think was it 2015 you started in 2020 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:18.720 and 2024 you opened up. Those three years, you 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:21.680 opened up three different locations? Brick and 00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:24.160 mortar? We had a trailer in 2015. Our first trip 00:24:24.160 --> 00:24:27.319 was a pull -behind trailer. We actually got a 00:24:27.319 --> 00:24:29.700 second trailer in 2016, which is also kind of 00:24:29.700 --> 00:24:33.759 a funny story. The pizza shop I worked at in 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:36.200 Connecticut, a girl that worked there named Crystal, 00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:39.119 she had started a mobile food truck business 00:24:39.119 --> 00:24:41.519 in Connecticut. Her and her husband at the time 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:42.859 had started this business, and they were getting 00:24:42.859 --> 00:24:46.079 out of it. And they had a trailer, and she messaged 00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:48.960 me and was like, hey, any chance you want to 00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:50.299 take this trailer off our hands. And I was like, 00:24:50.299 --> 00:24:51.720 I don't have the money for it. I can't do it. 00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:53.400 And she's like, we'll finance it for you. You 00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:55.359 just pay us monthly over five years and it's 00:24:55.359 --> 00:24:57.319 yours. Holy hell. And I was like, okay. Yeah. 00:24:57.339 --> 00:24:59.140 So I went and my father -in -law was still living 00:24:59.140 --> 00:25:00.779 in Connecticut. He went and looked at it for 00:25:00.779 --> 00:25:03.980 me. And then I went and bought it and took it 00:25:03.980 --> 00:25:05.960 home. And it was the most terrifying drive I 00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:08.339 probably ever had in my life. I bet. And then 00:25:08.339 --> 00:25:11.319 we actually, we started our 2016 season with 00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:15.309 two trailers. And we were doing, it was our first 00:25:15.309 --> 00:25:16.730 year doing the amphitheater. It was the reason 00:25:16.730 --> 00:25:18.390 we wanted the second trailer was so we could 00:25:18.390 --> 00:25:21.450 do the amphitheater because I knew that, you 00:25:21.450 --> 00:25:22.950 know, it was going to be a really cool place 00:25:22.950 --> 00:25:25.230 to set up at. And I wanted to be a part of it. 00:25:25.230 --> 00:25:28.170 And I couldn't do it if I only had the one unit. 00:25:28.609 --> 00:25:32.509 So I got that trailer. We had these two units. 00:25:32.509 --> 00:25:35.990 We were doing stuff. And later that year in 2016, 00:25:35.990 --> 00:25:37.849 we opened in North Syracuse. We were actually 00:25:37.849 --> 00:25:39.230 looking for a commissary kitchen. We weren't 00:25:39.230 --> 00:25:41.309 even looking to open a restaurant. We wanted 00:25:41.309 --> 00:25:45.769 a place to prep our food. Is that a ghost kitchen? 00:25:46.130 --> 00:25:48.049 Yeah, we ended up opening a restaurant there 00:25:48.049 --> 00:25:51.150 because it didn't make sense to pay the rent 00:25:51.150 --> 00:25:55.569 and not sell to customers. So it was already 00:25:55.569 --> 00:25:58.529 a pizza shop. So we went in there, we had to 00:25:58.529 --> 00:26:02.970 put a wood fire oven and do our thing. And we 00:26:02.970 --> 00:26:04.809 opened up a restaurant, but it also was kind 00:26:04.809 --> 00:26:06.750 of the hub for the food trucks at the time. Absolutely. 00:26:07.230 --> 00:26:12.210 So now, during the day, do you... Sometimes you're 00:26:12.210 --> 00:26:15.410 out in the trucks, or are you in one of the restaurants? 00:26:15.549 --> 00:26:17.769 What's your days like? So I'm kind of all over 00:26:17.769 --> 00:26:19.750 the place. I'm mostly, the food trucks are what 00:26:19.750 --> 00:26:24.690 I love to do. I love going from place to place. 00:26:24.829 --> 00:26:27.170 I love music, so I love being at concerts. I 00:26:27.170 --> 00:26:30.029 love to, you know, I get to go to a wedding one 00:26:30.029 --> 00:26:31.789 day, and then I get to go to a food rodeo. I 00:26:31.789 --> 00:26:34.869 get to go to a concert. It's never the same day. 00:26:35.289 --> 00:26:39.700 It's always different. We're doing the same thing, 00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:41.400 but we're doing it with different scenery. Right, 00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:43.799 and like 15, 20 years ago, if you owned a pizza 00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:46.359 shop, that's what you did every day. Now it's 00:26:46.359 --> 00:26:48.420 like you still own a pizza shop, but it's different. 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:51.039 Now that's actually how I invited you on the 00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:54.000 show, was I was at the Dave Matthews band concert 00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:56.740 at Lakeview Amphitheater here in Syracuse. And 00:26:56.740 --> 00:26:59.380 by the way, you were a savior because I was starving. 00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:02.140 I got front row for the first time in my life. 00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:05.099 Yeah, which was insane. And but because of that, 00:27:05.220 --> 00:27:07.819 I didn't want to leave for a drink, food, nothing. 00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:10.480 So I didn't eat. I was starving. And I'm walking 00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:12.380 up the hill and I'm going, I guess I'll have 00:27:12.380 --> 00:27:15.259 to stop some. And there like like a beacon of 00:27:15.259 --> 00:27:18.339 hope is the tossing fire truck up there. And 00:27:18.339 --> 00:27:21.000 you're in there at 11 o 'clock at night after 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:23.220 the show's over and you're slinging. And I'm 00:27:23.220 --> 00:27:25.180 bothering you about coming on the show. How do 00:27:25.180 --> 00:27:27.220 you get that gig? I mean, I feel like that would 00:27:27.220 --> 00:27:29.940 be a cutthroat gig to get. Yeah. I mean, we were 00:27:29.940 --> 00:27:32.700 fortunate when, so it was it was 2016 and there 00:27:32.700 --> 00:27:34.740 were like less than 10 food trucks operating. 00:27:35.220 --> 00:27:38.599 So we were fortunate to get into that venue. 00:27:38.819 --> 00:27:40.900 And, you know, we've tried to do everything we 00:27:40.900 --> 00:27:43.359 can to be good partners with them and put out 00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:46.019 a good product and. offer a good service and 00:27:46.019 --> 00:27:49.099 just do our thing. It's definitely cutthroat, 00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:53.480 but it's been fun and I hope to continue as long 00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:56.880 as we can. I hope so, too. Are you there every 00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:59.519 show? We're there every show, yep. That's great. 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:01.720 Pretty much. Maybe here and there we can't do 00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:02.940 something, but we're pretty much there every 00:28:02.940 --> 00:28:08.450 show. I gotta ask, you, I've heard, so obviously 00:28:08.450 --> 00:28:10.490 you know there's New York style pizza, right? 00:28:10.849 --> 00:28:12.890 There's Detroit, I just found out there's a Detroit 00:28:12.890 --> 00:28:15.839 style, which I didn't know about. Chicago. I 00:28:15.839 --> 00:28:18.460 did hear some rumblings. Is there a Connecticut 00:28:18.460 --> 00:28:20.920 style pizza? There is. There's New Haven style 00:28:20.920 --> 00:28:23.579 pizza. OK. We actually started doing pop ups 00:28:23.579 --> 00:28:25.539 with New Haven style pizza. We do them once a 00:28:25.539 --> 00:28:28.099 month on a Monday night when we're normally closed 00:28:28.099 --> 00:28:30.940 from 4 to 8. Our next one is June 16th in North 00:28:30.940 --> 00:28:34.700 Syracuse. So we open up for four hours. We only 00:28:34.700 --> 00:28:37.579 sell New Haven style pizzas. It's been something 00:28:37.579 --> 00:28:39.460 I've been working on for a couple of years to 00:28:39.460 --> 00:28:44.599 try to kind of figure out and how to do it. in 00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:46.839 the shop and... I don't think it's ever gonna 00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:48.720 be something we can sell in the shops full -time 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:51.099 because it's so different from everything else 00:28:51.099 --> 00:28:53.880 we're doing. What is it? So it's made with like 00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:55.720 a completely different, it's a completely different 00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:57.539 dough, it's made with a different kind of flour, 00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:00.500 it's cooked like we cook it partially in like 00:29:00.500 --> 00:29:02.319 a deck oven that you would cook a New York style 00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:04.099 pizza in and then we finish it in the wood fire 00:29:04.099 --> 00:29:07.380 oven. Okay. Thin, crispy, it's got a char and 00:29:07.380 --> 00:29:09.740 it's got a chew which is like the biggest difference 00:29:09.740 --> 00:29:11.779 between New Haven style and other types of pizza. 00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:14.500 It has a chew because it's kind of like you took 00:29:15.390 --> 00:29:19.509 Loaf of like really good bread crusty delicious 00:29:19.509 --> 00:29:21.690 bread and a pizza, and then you created this 00:29:21.690 --> 00:29:24.250 thing Okay, and that's the best way I can describe. 00:29:24.250 --> 00:29:27.170 I'm down. It's very awesome. I really like it. 00:29:27.230 --> 00:29:31.349 That's amazing So then I have to ask This is 00:29:31.349 --> 00:29:34.589 the age -old question. Is it okay to put pineapple 00:29:34.589 --> 00:29:36.910 on pizza? I think you put anything on pizza. 00:29:37.130 --> 00:29:39.410 Yeah, I agree I think you put anything on pizza. 00:29:39.410 --> 00:29:41.690 I think that if people get it's very controversial 00:29:41.690 --> 00:29:45.799 of course, but I think that anything Anything 00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:47.640 goes. That's what I say. Yeah, we put pickles 00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:50.319 on pizza I mean, right. How can we sit here and 00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:52.960 go? Oh pickle pizza is great But that pineapple, 00:29:53.500 --> 00:29:55.759 you know, I say different strokes different folks 00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:58.119 whatever you want, you know, as long as the basis 00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:04.579 is there I absolutely love your pizza obviously 00:30:04.579 --> 00:30:07.460 and you guys actually I think part of the reason 00:30:07.460 --> 00:30:09.900 why it's such a signature taste is is it a special 00:30:09.900 --> 00:30:13.059 kind of oven or is it the process of it? Yeah, 00:30:13.099 --> 00:30:17.019 so I mean everything we do is kind of unique, 00:30:17.259 --> 00:30:20.579 right? So we cook, we make dough with imported 00:30:20.579 --> 00:30:26.259 flour from Italy. But it's not like your super 00:30:26.259 --> 00:30:30.019 traditional Neapolitan pizza. It's kind of like 00:30:30.019 --> 00:30:32.539 a cross between a Neapolitan and a New York style 00:30:32.539 --> 00:30:35.539 pizza. It's a little bit more crispy than a traditional 00:30:35.539 --> 00:30:40.119 Neapolitan pizza if you do the wood fire. They're 00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:41.859 cooked in these imported ovens. Those come from 00:30:41.859 --> 00:30:43.720 Italy. They cook at a thousand degrees. It's 00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:46.400 ancient technology, right? There's no like there's 00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:48.460 no turning the dial to get right right right 00:30:48.460 --> 00:30:51.619 sure you want it's That's cold or that's hot 00:30:51.619 --> 00:30:53.319 or we need to adjust it. You have to have the 00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:55.200 right amount of wood It's there's there's like 00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:57.700 this there's like this chemistry that needs to 00:30:57.700 --> 00:31:00.720 happen when you cook with these with these wood 00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:03.680 -burning ovens And some days work better than 00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:07.539 others sure sure But I think that there's a lot 00:31:07.539 --> 00:31:10.000 of fun in that And it's cool. Like I think with 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:11.660 the food trucks, it's really cool to like walk 00:31:11.660 --> 00:31:14.099 by the food truck and see the fire roaring. Yeah. 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:16.480 Seeing pies coming out of this oven and like 00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:18.240 100 percent. There's something that's like it's 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:21.160 like kind of like this primal. Yes. Thing. Yes. 00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:27.000 It's cool. I could not agree more. Toss and fire 00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:31.299 pizza. We have any. Well, actually, I'll show 00:31:31.299 --> 00:31:33.559 you. Danny, can you throw up the picture? I want 00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:36.890 to talk about this real quick before we go. So 00:31:36.890 --> 00:31:38.369 I've had your pizza. The pizza's phenomenal. 00:31:38.430 --> 00:31:41.390 Speaks for itself. There's a nice shot of one 00:31:41.390 --> 00:31:44.710 of the pizzas there. But it's these things Matt 00:31:44.710 --> 00:31:48.609 ordered. These, is it garlic parmesan chips? 00:31:49.269 --> 00:31:54.589 Dude, they were, I can't even describe. They're 00:31:54.589 --> 00:31:57.109 just so original and they're so flavorful. I 00:31:57.109 --> 00:31:59.009 could not stop eating them. How'd you come up 00:31:59.009 --> 00:32:01.829 with this idea? So we wanted to, we were looking 00:32:01.829 --> 00:32:04.069 at some different kind of appetizer -y things 00:32:04.069 --> 00:32:06.250 and we have this really, really great garlic 00:32:06.250 --> 00:32:10.349 butter that we use. That's the key. And so that's 00:32:10.349 --> 00:32:12.750 kind of how it was born. The garlic butter thing 00:32:12.750 --> 00:32:15.250 is kind of funny because it was one of the only 00:32:15.250 --> 00:32:17.650 things I kind of took from that first job in 00:32:17.650 --> 00:32:20.130 Connecticut was this garlic butter idea. They 00:32:20.130 --> 00:32:22.309 do these things called garlic bites. Yeah. And 00:32:22.309 --> 00:32:24.529 it's literally, I think it's like the best kept 00:32:24.529 --> 00:32:27.740 secret at Toss and Fire. It's pizza dough. with 00:32:27.740 --> 00:32:30.299 garlic butter spread on it, gets cooked in the 00:32:30.299 --> 00:32:33.079 oven, it gets cut up into little triangle pieces, 00:32:33.660 --> 00:32:36.039 and then it gets pecorino romano on it, and then 00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:38.299 you dip it in marinara. They're so good. They're 00:32:38.299 --> 00:32:39.759 so simple. I'm drooling. I'm literally drooling 00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:42.000 all over this. Really delicious, yeah? That is 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:47.230 absolutely amazing. I mean, all your appetizers 00:32:47.230 --> 00:32:49.730 are great. The pizza is great. But it's just 00:32:49.730 --> 00:32:53.690 your passion and the originality stands out, 00:32:54.009 --> 00:32:56.650 man. So where... Oh, actually, you know what? 00:32:56.710 --> 00:32:58.450 I'll tell you real quick. Have you ever heard 00:32:58.450 --> 00:33:01.769 of Oneonta New York style pizza? It's like the 00:33:01.769 --> 00:33:03.829 cold cheese on yeah, yeah, I've heard of it. 00:33:03.890 --> 00:33:06.009 Yeah, my buddy went there I went to visit him 00:33:06.009 --> 00:33:08.529 in college and you know end of the night you're 00:33:08.529 --> 00:33:11.210 drunk and you the big thing was like I get this 00:33:11.210 --> 00:33:13.789 big slice of pizza and then they throw on top 00:33:13.789 --> 00:33:16.009 of the pizza just cold mozzarella and it sounds 00:33:16.009 --> 00:33:19.690 ridiculous But it's fantastic. So there's these 00:33:19.690 --> 00:33:21.710 little pockets of like places that have their 00:33:21.710 --> 00:33:24.710 own little style pizzas But toss -and -fire bar 00:33:24.710 --> 00:33:27.069 none one of my absolute favorites other than 00:33:27.069 --> 00:33:31.119 your your own Do you have a favorite pizza place 00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:36.279 or all time? I'm a pizza nerd. Me too. Me too. 00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:39.319 I like it all. I like it all. I think there's 00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:42.440 tons of good pizza. In central New York, I think 00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:46.720 Mario and Salvos does a fantastic job. I think 00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:50.799 Paladinos does a really great job. I think Pavone's 00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:54.259 does a really great job. Pizza Regionale does 00:33:54.259 --> 00:33:56.980 a really nice job. I mean, there's really so 00:33:56.980 --> 00:34:02.690 much good pizza. I travel to places all the time 00:34:02.690 --> 00:34:05.630 and I always try to find the best pizza to Vegas 00:34:05.630 --> 00:34:07.710 for the pizza expo tons of times There's tons 00:34:07.710 --> 00:34:10.570 of great pizza out there Florida in Orlando. 00:34:10.570 --> 00:34:13.550 I found great pizza. I found it all over the 00:34:13.550 --> 00:34:16.550 place I the only place I've ever found bad pizza 00:34:16.550 --> 00:34:18.750 and again, I'm a pizza aficionado. I could eat 00:34:18.750 --> 00:34:20.960 it for breakfast lunch and dinner It was in the 00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:25.780 middle of Iowa. And I can't, you know, maybe 00:34:25.780 --> 00:34:28.119 not their fault. That was the only place. Other 00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:30.760 than that, I think some of the best pizza I can 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:33.179 remember off the top of my head is there's one 00:34:33.179 --> 00:34:36.420 in Utica, New York called Slice. And then on 00:34:36.420 --> 00:34:38.960 Genesis, that's phenomenal. And then there's 00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:41.940 a famous one, my wife took me to Mac in something 00:34:41.940 --> 00:34:44.980 on the Jersey Shore. Something in Macs, they're 00:34:44.980 --> 00:34:47.199 very famous. Probably the best I've ever had. 00:34:47.739 --> 00:34:50.159 So I like sharing that. Got to go to New Haven, 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:52.340 Connecticut. Yeah, that's already, I've read 00:34:52.340 --> 00:34:56.739 that. Frank Pepe's, Sally's, Modern, Zupardi's. 00:34:56.980 --> 00:34:59.079 The Sausage Pie from Zupardi's literally will 00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:04.989 change your life. Jimmy Zabit's in Milford. I 00:35:04.989 --> 00:35:08.349 got my summer plan. There's so many. That's phenomenal, 00:35:08.550 --> 00:35:11.329 man. So before we go, let's talk about where 00:35:11.329 --> 00:35:14.289 we can find the trucks and the brick and mortar 00:35:14.289 --> 00:35:16.610 stores and toss and fire. Let's do it. Yeah. 00:35:16.630 --> 00:35:18.329 So, you know, our trucks are all throughout central 00:35:18.329 --> 00:35:19.829 New York. You can find where we're going to be, 00:35:19.829 --> 00:35:21.929 like our public events at streetfoodfinder .com. 00:35:21.989 --> 00:35:24.849 Our schedule is on there all the time. If you 00:35:24.849 --> 00:35:26.429 can visit our brick and mortars, those are open 00:35:26.429 --> 00:35:28.769 all year. We have a location, our original location 00:35:28.769 --> 00:35:30.829 in North Syracuse. It's on North Main Street. 00:35:31.289 --> 00:35:33.750 Our second location is in Camillas. in township 00:35:33.750 --> 00:35:36.090 five, right by the movie tavern. And then our 00:35:36.090 --> 00:35:38.010 third location, we have like a satellite location 00:35:38.010 --> 00:35:40.409 inside of Harvey's Garden in the city of Syracuse. 00:35:40.530 --> 00:35:43.030 That's amazing, man. And you can actually book 00:35:43.030 --> 00:35:45.710 your truck, too, for events? Yeah, we do weddings, 00:35:45.969 --> 00:35:48.909 graduations, birthdays, corporate events. You 00:35:48.909 --> 00:35:51.090 know, pretty much any reason you want to celebrate 00:35:51.090 --> 00:35:54.429 something, it's a great thing. My truck catered 00:35:54.429 --> 00:35:56.849 my son's fifth birthday party yesterday. That's 00:35:56.849 --> 00:36:01.369 awesome, man. Yeah, that's the coolest. Nick 00:36:01.369 --> 00:36:04.789 Sanford. Austin Fire, Nick, thank you for coming 00:36:04.789 --> 00:36:07.829 on Good News York, brought to you by Ads on the 00:36:07.829 --> 00:36:11.369 Go. I would not just have some random pizza on 00:36:11.369 --> 00:36:13.389 or on if I wasn't serious about saying it's some 00:36:13.389 --> 00:36:15.570 of the best pizza I've ever had. And we really 00:36:15.570 --> 00:36:19.230 love you here and we're gonna continue to eat 00:36:19.230 --> 00:36:21.750 your food. And we love you, man. Thanks for coming. 00:36:21.969 --> 00:36:24.489 Thank you. All right, that's it for Good News 00:36:24.489 --> 00:36:27.730 York. We'll be back tomorrow for Tuesday Newsday 00:36:27.730 --> 00:36:30.590 and all that other fun stuff. See you tomorrow.