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Hey guys, welcome to Good News York. It's Tuesday

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Newsday again. We're gonna, it feels like that

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was like yesterday. Yeah. Wasn't it just Tuesday?

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Funny you say that when I was prepping for Tuesday

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Newsday. I was like, wasn't Tuesday Newsday like

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two days ago? Yep. But no, time flies. Hey. Time

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flies. Especially when you're having fun. And

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we are. And we're kicking off this Newsday with

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a guest. Yeah, Greg Ordon. Welcome to the show.

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Welcome. Photographer extraordinaire. This was

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the strangest morning for me because I came in,

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I was told we're getting headshots done. Okay.

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And I was just like, sure, sounds great. Well,

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I met Amanda, our new, what's her job title?

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I don't wanna say the wrong one. She's our operations

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person. Operations person. Her first day, my

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first day meeting her, and I said, nice to meet

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you, and then we hopped in a car, me, her, and

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Danny. And we got pictures taken together. There

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you go. And it was awesome. It was a very unique

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experience. I can't wait to talk about it. This

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guy's, he's a real deal. So just to be clear,

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you went to his place. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry.

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Yeah, we went to his studio. Yeah, yeah. Tell

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me a little bit. Tell me about the studio. Well,

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it's funny because when you pull in, it kind

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of has the effect, it's a big parking lot with

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like a horseshoe of doorways. Almost like a motel,

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but it's all business there. I said if I was

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scouting for a film, it'd be a great scene for

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a shootout. But there were no shootouts, goodness.

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You went inside, gorgeous studio. You're part

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of Retro Game Con. So there was a lot of really

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cool stuff as far as Retro Game Con, but the

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studio, this was the real deal. And I was telling

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him... You know, when I do impressions of photographers

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and I'm trying to be funny, I do the whole, like,

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look left, give me something sassy. Close up.

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Look sexy. Pretend you're holding the subway

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sub. Sing into the camera. Do TLC, preferably

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Scrubs. I want you to sing that. Yeah, he was

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very... Greg, you're a very hands -on, very...

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That's what you want from a photographer. Yeah.

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And that's what he gave us. He wants one direct.

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Yeah, he wants one of those direct. I need direction,

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so. That can take control. Enough of Mike's review.

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Greg, tell us a little bit about your business

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and what you do and the type of folks that you

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help. So I'm a portrait headshot photographer.

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That's kind of what I've settled in as far as

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photography. About 20 years ago, I was kind of

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a generalist as a photographer. I would shoot

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anything and everything just to make a buck.

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And the problem with that is, as you know, When

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you're generalist, you compete on price. So you

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don't compete on skills. You compete on the next

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guy, your competitor, because he's going to charge

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$50. Well, I'm going to charge $25, because you're

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trying to get that business. And problem is it's

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a race to the bottom. And so about three to four

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years ago, I did a soul searching. I said, I

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don't want to be a generalist photographer. I

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want to actually niche in a couple fields, and

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that's it. and get very good in those two fields.

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So basically, all I do right now is events, and

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I do portraits and headshots. And I've spent

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probably the last year and a half really focusing

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on headshots, gone to several workshops. One

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of them is with Peter Hurley in New York City,

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and really learning his style, his technique,

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and how he gets the headshots that he does, because

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that's a style that I really like, and it sets

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me apart from other photographers. Again, it's...

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Allows me to charge what I charge without having

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to apologize for it or yeah have it be the first

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part of a conversation Usually the first part

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for me is I like your work How can we work together?

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What is it? What is it about a headshot specifically

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that? You're able to dig deep into you know What

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is it about that that you found interesting and

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how do you make it unique? Kind of for folks

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that aren't familiar with the style you've referenced

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so for me again And I'm compared to an event

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photographer. An event photographer, say if I'm

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there for two days for an event, I'm shooting

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thousands of photos and I have an interaction

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with someone for about 10 seconds. Gotcha. And

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then I'm on to the next part of that event to

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try to capture the event as a whole. So I don't

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really get a chance to get to know people, get

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to talk to people. And that's the one thing I

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really do enjoy. As a headshot photographer,

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you have no option. Like, you have to kind of

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get to know someone. You have to kind of get

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into their psyche a little bit. You have to converse

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with them and be able to have a conversation.

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But also, you have to kind of be a counselor

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to them. Like, you know, most people don't like

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a camera pointing in front of them. Sure. And

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usually, it's a negative reaction they have because

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they usually have some sort of serious high school

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portrait or high school portrait comic. Right.

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Or they said, hey, you know, come into the studio

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here, sit on this, you know, rackety chair, you

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know. do a weird pose, and then a couple flashes

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later, you're like, okay, next. It was always

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jam the fist. I was talking about that. Punch

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yourself in the face. My brother and I, my mom

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took us to see her, and I can only explain it,

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the only memory I have is, it was in gymnastics,

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the horse that they vault over. It was like that,

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but with carpet on it. The weirdest bench. And

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it was just very unnatural. And to put some context

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to it, I was obviously making a joke earlier,

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you know, making light of how intense he can

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be. But it is what you want from a photographer.

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No, it's that personality that he's... Yeah,

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and I've worked with... I've gotten headshots

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done in the past. And this was the first time

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I worked in a studio of that caliber, but also

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with someone who took my joke and made it a reality.

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You know, he was like, hey, give me this. I will

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say... He wanted me to, his thing is to have

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your neck forward, like this, right? But literally,

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this, so it feels very unnatural. But he assured

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me that, I'm telling you, it feels weird, and

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then you look at the picture and you're like,

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oh, I don't look like that, but it feels very

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weird. So I mean, if you wanna go to a photographer

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that's gonna give you the absolute top of the

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line experience, Greg Ordon, this is the guy

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right here. That's incredible. So Greg, tell

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us a little bit about who and why do people get

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headshots, you know, who's, who's the target

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audience for this and, and why are they getting

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them? Uh, for me, my target audience is really

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corporate America and basically pretty much anyone

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that needs to update a headshot. You know, I

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kind of target LinkedIn quite a, quite a bit.

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Uh, but it's really anyone that wants to elevate

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their brand and, or I, as I call it, like level

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up their brand. Um, a lot of people on LinkedIn

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have selfies. They have, you know, a photo they

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cut themselves out of, out of a group photo.

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Cause that's the best photo they found themselves.

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or they'll try to take a photo of themselves.

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Like I get that a lot. Like, hey, I, you know,

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I try to have a photo taken of myself with my

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own camera against a wall and I can't get it

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to look like your photo. So they call my studio

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to get that type of work. And again, it's those

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types of people, people that also, the ones I

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really enjoy working with are the ones that say

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that they don't have, or they can never get a

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good photo of themselves. Like they just, you

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know, Part of being a photography part is easy.

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Like, you know, it's taking a photo. That's,

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that's easy. It's a technical, right? It's a

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technical thing. You know, once you have the

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technical side out of the way, now you have a

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human being in front of your camera that has

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all their issues. They have, you know, you know,

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self -loathing, they, you know, talk about them

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down about themselves or, and so part of my,

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part of what I do that I think I do very well

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in is. I can be empathetic. Like, I know how

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that feels. I have had those same feelings myself

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when a camera's pointed at me. And trying to

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get into their head space, you know, basically

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be a counselor to them, listen to their issues,

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too, and not just take a photo like, oh, this

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is the best photo for yourself, right? Like,

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you know, it's not about me at that moment. It's

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about the person in front of my camera. And so

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when I'm shooting stuff, you're seeing it in

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real time. You're seeing the photos come on the

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screen, and it's a chance for both of us to evaluate...

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what the images look like, you know, what I can

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do to be better, what you can do to be better.

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And it's also being frank with them, like, you

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know, not trying to pretend to not say something

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because, you know, you're afraid to hurt their

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feelings, but actually be direct. Like, hey,

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you know, you're not tilting your head correctly,

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or, you know what, when you're smiling, you know,

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one side of your face is smiling, but the other's

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not. And so when people can see that stuff in

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real time, they start reacting to it. And when

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it's also not being done in a mean or judgmental

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way, I'm just here to help you out. And the trust

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barriers or the barrier that they have starts

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to go down. And they start to trust the process.

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They trust me. And I trust them, too. So at the

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end, if you see images from someone that first

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came in the studio to right before they left

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for this final session, night and day. you know,

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expression changes. And they become real expressions.

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They become a real response to something instead

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of like, oh, I don't want to respond in front

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of this person because I'm afraid of how I look.

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And to back him up, he is not afraid to tell

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you. In fact, at one point he said, stop, give

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me less trying to look like Frank Sinatra. Oh,

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no, let's go less serial killer here. My favorite

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part, though, is when you first got behind the

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camera and you went, ooh. Well, that's a bad

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start. I never said that before, but just kidding.

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No, I know. But no, it's great. And you want

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someone that direct, you know? Yeah. Because

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you did make me end up, you know, feeling comfortable

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and feeling more confident. And that's what you

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want from your photographer. That's awesome.

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Greg, let's talk a little bit about just the

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basics of how it works. So how long is a session

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and how far in advance should people book if

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they got a big event coming up or I need a new

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business card? What's your advice along those

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lines? So as far as the last part of that, as

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far as how far in advance they can book, I can

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pretty much work with anyone. I can try to fit

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them in a schedule, but my studio does book up

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pretty fast a week. So the quicker they know

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about it, the better. Just call and say, hey,

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I have an online scheduling calendar that I use,

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but sometimes it's already booked. So if they

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can't find time, just call me and we'll figure

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out something. As far as the turnaround time

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on the photos, from the time they... get shot

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to the time I deliver. It's about a day, two

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days. Oh, wow. So it's pretty quick for them

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to get them in hand. Like actually the photos

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I took of you and Amanda, I had those. They're

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pretty much done. I already sent to Danny there

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for a view. But as far as the process and how

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long a session is, it really varies on the person

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and the human in front of me. It's, you know,

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some people I've had CEOs come in that are camera

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ready that understand that process that have

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a training. So they warm up pretty quickly. They

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don't, you know, they don't have two hours to

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spend. They have 10 minutes, but they already

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understand what's going on. So they kind of follow

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direction with that. I also have people that

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come into the studio that don't have any camera

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experience. They never had a camera pointed in

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front of them, but in a negative way. And now

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that person, it takes time to again, break down

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their walls to get past their... their own barriers

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to get images out of them that resemble who they

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are. So that could take 10 minutes. It could

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take 20 minutes. I've had clients take an hour,

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hour and a half. And again, it's just patience.

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So this part of the session fee that I charge,

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I don't have a time limit on it. It's just how

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long it takes to get it done. I have people bring

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them multiple outfits, multiple looks. So sometimes...

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Guys and women are the same, like they have clothing

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that they feel comfortable in and clothing they

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don't feel comfortable in. And sometimes when

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they come in for a headshot, they bring the stuff

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they are uncomfortable in because that's the

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image that they think they're supposed to be

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looking at. And say, hey, we're going to take

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those images, we're going to get those out of

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the way, let's try some other things. And you

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put them in comfortable clothing that best represents

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who they are, their personality starts to change.

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So it's kind of listening to their needs, but

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also kind of being direct. At some point, my

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job is to take the pressure off of them. They're

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not there to have me ask them questions. They're

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there to have a picture taken and have some direction

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given to them on what to do. So again, that can

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take 20 minutes, 10 minutes. Gotcha. I love that

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part of your business model, I guess. is you

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don't put a time on it. And I think from a creative

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standpoint, I think that's good. I think it's

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important because from someone who now was one

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of your clients, I don't feel inclined to have

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the pressure of, you know, because like you said,

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you might be working with someone who's not comfortable

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in this, and now you add a time limit and they

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start thinking, I gotta, so I don't know if you

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took that into consideration on purpose, but

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I think that's great that you do that. And that's

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just part of, you know, going through the workshops

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that I've gone through and just also shooting

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a lot of people that you start realizing that

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people are, everyone's different. I don't have

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the same person that comes in the studio act

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the same way. So you have to kind of, like here,

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every time that someone comes into your studio,

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you kind of have to figure out how they act and

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kind of mimic it a little bit. Because clients

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like that familiarity. So if someone comes in

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all quiet and timid and they're like, hey, welcome

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to the studio. They're going to be like, Hold

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on a second. Yeah, you know, but again if someone

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comes in all You know wild full of energy. I

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have to match that energy, right? You know, yeah

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So and again, but you also have to kind of push

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back on the energy to like, you know Okay, save

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that for the session. We're gonna you know But

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it's just really varies on the people on the

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person that's in front of me I got you and like

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said, it's you know I really care about what

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I do with the clients to and part of what I do

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is also Really like to lift them up like it's

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not you know never about me. It's about the person

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in front of me And that's that's really what

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I'd like to do and that love that and that goes

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into we had a conversation at your studio about

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AI and you know AI is great for a lot of things

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specifically post -production But I said I am

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from a firm believer, and you'll never be human

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interaction, and that's a perfect Oh, yeah of

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the way you're reading your your clients reading

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the room knowing what to say and how to say it.

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You're not gonna get that with AI. Or even the

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way I watched him touch up the photos after.

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This isn't like we're choosing a filter on Instagram.

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I mean, these are nuanced. There was one Matt

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that said armpit something. I was like, there's

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an armpit filter? Like, it's very nuanced. And

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you're not gonna get that with... With a I mean,

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I guess that is AI but but you know what I'm

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saying. It's just the the human element of it

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is so important Yeah, well, I mean when you think

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about Photographs or marketing a branding anything

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like that a headshot is the most human thing

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you could have So, you know if there was ever

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a place to To save the technology for you know,

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at least after the shots are taken. It's your

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personal brand. Yeah, and What I tell people

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too is you know if they're on the fence on investing

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in this is when you're on LinkedIn looking at

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other people's profiles, the statistic of someone

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that stays on your profile is about three seconds.

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You have three seconds to capture their attention

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from your profile or they're moving on. So if

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your profile is not up to snuff as your competitors,

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you know, sorry, not sorry, but they're gonna

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go on to the, you know, it's an impression first

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platform. So what you're saying is I should just

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find a better -looking person to use in my photos.

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Stop it. We talked about you, actually. Oh, Jesus.

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Here's another reason why this guy's so great.

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He was talking about wardrobe, and he said, look,

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Matt lives in hoodies. And he's like, that's

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fine. He's like, and we'll take a picture in

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that hoodie. Like, we'll make it look good. I

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was thinking about it. Capture that's who you

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are. That's your brand. So it's good. It's awesome,

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man. It's awesome. Greg, how do people find you?

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We should probably tell people. They can find

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me on LinkedIn. They can find me on Instagram.

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LinkedIn, just look at, I think, Greg Ordon,

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O -R -D -O -N. I think Instagram is CNYHeadshots315.

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My website's gtophoto .com, which is in the current

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stages. Make sure we put that up on the screen.

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Current stages are being rebuilt, but it's good

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enough for what I need it for right now. It'll

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get you there? Yep. Awesome. And then my portfolio's

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up there, so. That's awesome. They can also take

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a look at that work, so. That's awesome. And

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they also go to headshotcrew .com. If they look

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for photographers in Syracuse, New York area,

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they'll see my profile there. And that's actually

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where a really good body of my work is. Oh, wow.

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And the top notch images that I have up there.

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Greg, do people typically come to you on an individual

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basis, or do you have companies that say, hey,

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we need to get a bunch of our folks? headshots

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sort of thing. So I have both. So basically I

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do have the individuals, but then I also have,

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you know, their marketing people or the communication

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people that reach out and say, Hey, we need to

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get group headshots for our employees. And can

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you come on site? And that's the, you know, so

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my entire studio that you saw, I have a traveling

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version of that that basically can go on site.

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Basically set up, you know, in a 10 by 13 space

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pretty much and get those types of headshots

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that I got to show you. So that's great. That's

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awesome. We had a great time, man. Thank you

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for having us. You guys will see the photos.

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The results. I think we have footage, too. Danny

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took a lot of footage, so it was a great time.

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Mike's LinkedIn traffic is going to skyrocket.

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Look out. People are going to spend four seconds

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on my LinkedIn now. Not three. You've got to

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beat all the algorithms, buddy. You know this.

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I'm excited. Did you guys get pictures of Danny,

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too? No. Actually, I've got a picture of Danny.

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I know. I think I actually... I noticed that

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on your profile as I was zooming through, like,

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hey, I know that guy. Yeah. But awesome. Mm -hmm.

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Mm -hmm. Greg Ordon. I'm excited. Is it just

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Greg Ordon photography, or? Oh, gtophoto .com.

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gtophoto .com. That's it. That's it. Greg, thank

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you so much for joining us. You're welcome. Thanks

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for having me. And for having us at your place.

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We've got some other team members who weren't

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there today, including myself. And we're going

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to send them to you sooner than later as well.

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All right. Can't wait. I'm excited. Makes you

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guys look like rock stars. That's great. Before

00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:57.980
you go, though, turn your head to the left. Chin

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forward. Arms out. He's trying to get some payback

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here. Thanks. You're welcome. And we will be

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back with all of the news. Tuesday Newsday. All

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right, not all the news, but some. Some of the

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news. We'll give you some news. Yeah. Next. We're

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back! Oh, we're back. It's Tuesday Newsday. It's

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Tuesday, Newsday, officially. On Good News York,

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we are back. Great, thanks for having our buddy

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Greg stop by earlier in the show. Greg Worden.

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Take some great photographs of the team here.

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It feels like it's four o 'clock in the afternoon,

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because we had a busy, you know, I showed up.

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The only way I know it's Tuesday is because I

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just bought a new clock that's in front of us

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that has the date, or the day. It has the time,

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the date. The only thing that pisses me off,

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my OCD, is it's Celsius. There's gotta be a switch.

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There's gotta be a switch. Yeah, it's wonderful.

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We're really moving on up. By the way, shout

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out, I walked in and we have a new operations

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manager, whatever her title's gonna be. Amanda

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is now part of the team. I've never met somebody

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and then right away got in a car and went and

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got headshots done with them, but I highly recommend

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it because if you really wanna get to know someone,

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go get headshots done with them. She's very lovely.

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So welcome to the team, Amanda. I wanted to mention

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that. This is like one of those jobs where you

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got the work crew and they just stuff you all

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in a truck. Yeah, crew cab. I figured out what

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that meant when I bought a truck. It's a crew

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cab. I'm like, that sounds cool. Did it include

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the crew? Yes. That was the hard part, because

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I had nowhere for them to sleep. But we figured

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it out, air mattresses and stuff like that. Shout

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out, it's our friend's birthday. Phil. Phil Farda.

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Yay! That's all I got. I don't have a cell phone.

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Happy birthday, Phil. The funniest man in the

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315. I love him. It's his birthday today. Yeah.

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So we celebrated his birthday actually this weekend.

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We went out with a bunch of folks and I want

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to talk about this because we, to celebrate,

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we had some food at a great restaurant in Utica,

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but then we went to this new... pinball arcade

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business in Marcy. Oh, I didn't know you went

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there. Yeah. Two Cousins, it's called. Now here's

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a funny story. While I was there, I actually

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ran into one of my cousins. That's fucking...

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That's a true story. And you want to talk about

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truth in advertising. I mean, this place really

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nailed it. But... That's unbelievable. Sorry,

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my head's exploded. So it's called Two Cousins.

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That's the name of the business. You went there,

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and unplanned, you ran into one of your cousins.

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Yeah. So there were two cousins there. It's true.

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This is unbelievable. My cousin Carrie and her

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family, yep. But anyway, we were there. Don't

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go to Dick's Sporting Goods. Jesus. It's fine.

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That was good. So we were there for Phil's birthday

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party. We brought a group of people and it was

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really cool. So how the place works is it's an

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unlimited play. You can either buy an hour or

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you can buy... Forever I guess well that day

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so I think it was like $15 for an hour 25 bucks

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or unlimited play There's no quarters. There's

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none of that. So all the machines you just walk

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up and play a game, which is pretty cool That's

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awesome. They had a really good number of machines.

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So There was a good crowd I mean we brought ten

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people and there was a good number of people

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in there but still there was always at least

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one machine available you could walk up to and

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play a game you didn't have to really wait and

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You know, I don't know that we played all that,

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we only played for an hour. And I don't know

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that I hit every machine, so. You tried. Yeah,

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I tried to, as much as, there's a few that I

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really liked, you know, when you play a couple

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games on them, but really in a place like that,

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it's like, just move on and give other people

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a chance, but also try all the different ones,

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so. Is this, so is it? Is it more of an arcade

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feel, or is it more of a bar room? Yeah, so that's

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a great question. It's definitely not a bar.

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They don't have a bar, is my understanding. They

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did have a separate room where they had some

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food, pizza, and stuff like that. But in the

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main area, it is, I guess you'd say, a lot like

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kind of an old school arcade. So they had the

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games around the perimeter of the room. In the

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middle of the room, they had an air hockey table,

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foosball table, some seating, where you could

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just sort of hang out. Strictly pinball, or do

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they have other arcade games? They had just a

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couple other games. Everything else was pinball.

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It's kind of like when you go to, like, a seafood

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restaurant, they throw a couple chicken dishes

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on the menu just to make everybody happy. I mean,

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I think that's their main focus is pinball, which

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is cool as hell. So, is there... So, I mean,

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I consider myself a bit of a gamer, and, I mean,

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if you were a 90s kid, you definitely loved arcades.

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Is there... I've never really thought about this.

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Is there, like... the holy grail of pinball machines?

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You know what I mean? Like, is there one that's

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like the Babe Ruth rookie card? I'm sure there

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is. But you don't know which one. As much as

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I've enjoyed playing, in the last month I went

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to Vegas, I went to the Pinball Hall of Fame

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there. I'm not like a pinball aficionado to that

00:24:03.109 --> 00:24:04.829
degree. I bet there is, though. I'd be interested

00:24:04.829 --> 00:24:06.509
to find that out. Yeah, if we get them on the

00:24:06.509 --> 00:24:08.109
show, we'll have to ask them. Because I'll tell

00:24:08.109 --> 00:24:10.150
you what, what I really loved the most when I

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was at the Pinball Hall of Fame, and same here

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at this place, they had a couple... in this vein

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were the very old machines. The machines from,

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like, the 70s. And the reason why is they're

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just, they're a little different. You know, some

00:24:22.910 --> 00:24:26.569
of them are actually totally wood. And they're

00:24:26.569 --> 00:24:29.529
definitely more simple, but I don't know. I found

00:24:29.529 --> 00:24:31.029
them to be a lot more fun. And they had a few

00:24:31.029 --> 00:24:33.109
of those kind of classic ones. You know, they've

00:24:33.109 --> 00:24:36.470
got the space characters that's in classic 70s

00:24:36.470 --> 00:24:39.180
cartoon -style character, and it's a... I don't

00:24:39.180 --> 00:24:41.160
know, to me that's kind of fun, so. No, it's

00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:44.019
absolutely awesome, and I wonder, I'm curious

00:24:44.019 --> 00:24:47.559
to know, like, do you think that maybe you would

00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:50.400
have been, like, do you think you went to Two

00:24:50.400 --> 00:24:52.519
Cousins first and then went to Vegas? Like, because

00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:54.819
you went to, like, you went to Vegas, you went

00:24:54.819 --> 00:24:57.099
to, like, this. The Mecca. The Mecca, and then

00:24:57.099 --> 00:24:59.500
you went to Two Cousins, and I'm not sliding,

00:24:59.500 --> 00:25:01.619
you know, Two Cousins by any means, but did that

00:25:01.619 --> 00:25:03.960
take away from it? Not at all. What was funny

00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:06.180
is I happened to, so I bought a... Pinball Hall

00:25:06.180 --> 00:25:08.660
of Fame shirt when I was in Vegas. And I wore

00:25:08.660 --> 00:25:12.160
that when we went there. And I told my wife,

00:25:12.500 --> 00:25:14.480
watch, I'm gonna look like a ringer walking in

00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:16.440
with these. And sure enough, we walked through

00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:18.279
the door and the owner of the place came up to

00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:19.759
me and started asking me about it. He hadn't

00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:22.140
been there, so he was asking me what they had

00:25:22.140 --> 00:25:23.859
to offer and how it was set up and stuff like

00:25:23.859 --> 00:25:26.279
that. It was kind of cool. But no, I don't think

00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:30.140
it, obviously the one in Vegas has immensely

00:25:30.140 --> 00:25:35.029
more machines, but. Like I said, we played for

00:25:35.029 --> 00:25:36.769
a good long time and didn't hit the same thing

00:25:36.769 --> 00:25:40.130
twice. So I think that was a pretty solid experience.

00:25:40.410 --> 00:25:43.869
There's a handful of arcade games that are, I

00:25:43.869 --> 00:25:47.769
mean, huge nostalgia to me. And it's probably

00:25:47.769 --> 00:25:49.549
based around the Sanger Town Mall in Utica, New

00:25:49.549 --> 00:25:52.829
York, because that's where I grew up. But I also,

00:25:52.829 --> 00:25:54.250
you know, I remember going to bowling alleys.

00:25:54.349 --> 00:25:56.309
My mom was in a bowling league. Right next to

00:25:56.309 --> 00:25:59.390
the theater at the mall. Right around the corner

00:25:59.390 --> 00:26:01.869
from Taco Bell. At some point, they had another

00:26:01.869 --> 00:26:04.190
one across the hall. It sort of came and went.

00:26:05.390 --> 00:26:08.390
But the core one was that one that had been...

00:26:08.390 --> 00:26:11.289
It was the best. But I would say, for me... That

00:26:11.289 --> 00:26:14.690
is an arcade. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And I asked, is

00:26:14.690 --> 00:26:17.650
there a Holy Grail of pinball machines? For me,

00:26:17.910 --> 00:26:21.440
there's a handful of Holy Grails of... Just straight

00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:23.880
arcade games. Yeah for me. It's like when I think

00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:25.799
back to my chat I think of the Aerosmith gun

00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:28.220
game member the Aerosmith. Okay, you know I'm

00:26:28.220 --> 00:26:30.720
talking about made no sense like why they threw

00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:34.519
Aerosmith in this gun shooting game I loved the

00:26:34.519 --> 00:26:37.460
Ninja Turtles Where you could play four players

00:26:37.460 --> 00:26:41.259
as a class that was a classic I would say WrestleMania

00:26:41.259 --> 00:26:43.680
WrestleMania kind of same deal. You could play

00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:47.230
four across Um, I know I'm missing one. That's

00:26:47.230 --> 00:26:48.950
a real... There were the classics like Mortal

00:26:48.950 --> 00:26:51.829
Kombat. Yes. Street Fighter. I see, like, there's

00:26:51.829 --> 00:26:53.829
always some kind of Terminator shooting game.

00:26:53.950 --> 00:26:57.470
Yep. Yep. Street Fighter. Um... I don't know.

00:26:57.769 --> 00:27:00.710
Danny's the king of retro games. He's also ten

00:27:00.710 --> 00:27:02.509
years younger, though, so... You got any input

00:27:02.509 --> 00:27:04.049
on this, buddy? Yeah. Is there any particular,

00:27:04.049 --> 00:27:07.000
like... arcade machine that's really well -known.

00:27:07.259 --> 00:27:10.900
Yeah, one of them is The Simpsons. Yes, I was

00:27:10.900 --> 00:27:12.960
going to go there next. That's an iconic arcade

00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:16.559
one. It's the four -player Simpsons one. You'd

00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:20.119
see Soul Calibur in there, along with the Mortal

00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:24.140
Kombat arcade cabinets. I feel like in a good

00:27:24.140 --> 00:27:26.960
arcade, you would want to see a Donkey Kong arcade

00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:31.059
cabinet and a Miss Pac -Man and a Galaga combo.

00:27:31.079 --> 00:27:34.089
I feel like that was very common back then. He's

00:27:34.089 --> 00:27:35.490
hitting all the hits. He is hitting all the hits.

00:27:35.869 --> 00:27:38.349
There's one, I want to ask Danny, you might know,

00:27:38.609 --> 00:27:43.769
down at Three Lives downtown, kind of the gamer

00:27:43.769 --> 00:27:45.309
bar, if you haven't been there, we're talking

00:27:45.309 --> 00:27:47.150
about a slightly different place now, but downtown

00:27:47.150 --> 00:27:50.509
Syracuse is totally cool. They had this one though

00:27:50.509 --> 00:27:53.410
that was a Japanese game that I personally wasn't

00:27:53.410 --> 00:27:57.560
familiar with, but apparently was super... hot,

00:27:57.560 --> 00:28:00.279
very, the arcade Japanese game to play. Do you

00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:01.779
remember what it's called by any chance? Hope

00:28:01.779 --> 00:28:05.759
it was. Was it 1941? It's like, no, no. Oh, Jesus.

00:28:05.980 --> 00:28:09.599
No, literally, there was a game called 1941.

00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:10.819
It's something that anime kids know well. And

00:28:10.819 --> 00:28:12.920
I wanted to make a Pearl Harbor joke, that's

00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:14.339
obvious. And I'm not one of them, so I just,

00:28:14.619 --> 00:28:15.559
I don't know if you know what it looks like.

00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.519
I don't know off the top of my head. We're gonna

00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:20.000
have to... I'm not kidding you, it might be 1941.

00:28:20.339 --> 00:28:22.359
Add them to the list of, because that's one of

00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:24.799
the coolest places in Syracuse. We need to...

00:28:24.809 --> 00:28:28.089
Do some cool stuff with that. I do I do remember

00:28:28.089 --> 00:28:30.549
there was always I feel like every arcade I went

00:28:30.549 --> 00:28:33.609
to There was this shooting game that really wasn't

00:28:33.609 --> 00:28:37.089
that good, but every arcade have it. That's the

00:28:37.089 --> 00:28:39.640
Terminator one No, I feel like if it was I would

00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:42.160
have loved the Terminator. It was um you're thinking

00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:45.420
of time splitters time That sounds right. Yeah

00:28:45.420 --> 00:28:47.440
time splitters. Was there a pedal you stepped

00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:50.180
on? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah There was like six

00:28:50.180 --> 00:28:52.680
or seven time splitters The greatest one I ever

00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:54.720
played was down near the city. My mom's family

00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:58.000
was close to the city. This was in the 90s It

00:28:58.000 --> 00:28:59.980
was a, and you gotta remember back then this

00:28:59.980 --> 00:29:02.700
was, this was like mind blowing. It was a, so

00:29:02.700 --> 00:29:04.819
you watch this video where you were in the wild

00:29:04.819 --> 00:29:07.400
west with this old guy who was a prospector and

00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:09.539
he was kind of the host of the game and you would

00:29:09.539 --> 00:29:12.059
go through this town and you would shoot the

00:29:12.059 --> 00:29:13.920
old school, you know where they go, and then

00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:17.059
they fall. But it was live video and it was just

00:29:17.059 --> 00:29:19.619
the coolest, like now I see all the games and

00:29:19.619 --> 00:29:22.339
it's so outdated, but that was one I wish, I

00:29:22.339 --> 00:29:24.680
forget what it was called, but we need to find,

00:29:25.460 --> 00:29:27.819
I'm gonna put this out there right now. We need

00:29:27.819 --> 00:29:33.480
to find a gaming sponsor who would cover the

00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:35.660
costs, and will aggressively advertise their

00:29:35.660 --> 00:29:38.240
brand, of course, but cover the costs for us

00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:41.859
to do some dedicated arcade content. Like, I

00:29:41.859 --> 00:29:45.579
want us to travel to some of the unfortunately

00:29:45.579 --> 00:29:49.079
few, or maybe growing number, as we're talking

00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:50.980
about. Two Cousins just opening up. I feel like

00:29:50.980 --> 00:29:52.640
this may be, maybe this is something coming back,

00:29:52.700 --> 00:29:57.680
but we should do a sort of road trip. tour -style,

00:29:58.140 --> 00:29:59.960
because there's a place in Old Forge that's kind

00:29:59.960 --> 00:30:03.140
of a classic old arcade that's pretty cool. Yes,

00:30:03.380 --> 00:30:05.299
near Enchanted Forest. Yeah, oh yeah. There's

00:30:05.299 --> 00:30:08.500
a bunch of these random places that still exist.

00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:12.200
Sylvan Beach, my parents lived there. They still

00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:14.119
got that? Carousel with all the arcade games,

00:30:14.180 --> 00:30:18.160
oh yeah. Yeah man, that place. Legendary. But

00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:20.019
something like that, I would love to do and really

00:30:20.019 --> 00:30:21.400
highlight some of these things and find that

00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:23.539
out. That would be great. I know there's gotta

00:30:23.539 --> 00:30:26.099
be one of these, or a few of these, kind of holy

00:30:26.099 --> 00:30:30.799
graham, holy grail. Grail. There's also a ton

00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:32.539
of, because you know, back in my drinking days,

00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:36.900
there are a ton of dive bars everywhere in this

00:30:36.900 --> 00:30:39.819
country, but definitely in New York State. You'll

00:30:39.819 --> 00:30:42.900
find some random gem arcade games in a dive bar.

00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:44.339
You'll be like, how is this here? It's funny

00:30:44.339 --> 00:30:46.599
you mention that, because I was gonna say, This

00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:48.759
is not necessarily an arcade game, but if you

00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:53.000
want to talk about the really well -known OG,

00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:54.880
it's going to be Shuffle Golf. Oh, I was going

00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:56.579
to say Shuffle Board. In the bars, though. Oh,

00:30:56.619 --> 00:30:59.519
you're talking about Golden Tee. Golden Tee.

00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:03.380
Golden Tee. Hell yeah. Not in the arcades. No.

00:31:03.700 --> 00:31:06.339
But in the bars, it had a massive, massive following

00:31:06.339 --> 00:31:09.940
in tournaments and... I bartended for so many...

00:31:09.940 --> 00:31:12.920
People would get in fights over that game because

00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:16.640
it was... It had a modem. So you could, I mean,

00:31:16.740 --> 00:31:19.380
you could play, like, your score uploaded to,

00:31:19.380 --> 00:31:21.480
like, a worldwide leaderboard, and these guys,

00:31:21.579 --> 00:31:23.799
man, these regulars took it so seriously. Yeah.

00:31:24.259 --> 00:31:27.079
You know? They figured it out. One guy had a

00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:28.799
meltdown because he put the wrong initials in

00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:31.220
for the leaderboard. Oh, wow. Yeah. And he had

00:31:31.220 --> 00:31:32.920
no one to fight but himself, so he just took

00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:35.220
it out on everyone else. Right. It was great.

00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:38.420
They were one of the only, really, of that style

00:31:38.420 --> 00:31:41.339
game that sort of embraced that. connectivity

00:31:41.339 --> 00:31:43.119
at least at that time. You're absolutely right,

00:31:43.220 --> 00:31:44.720
they were one of the first. That's pretty wild.

00:31:45.339 --> 00:31:48.119
And you're right, if you saw golden tea, gold

00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:49.660
tea, I think it's golden. I think you're right,

00:31:49.819 --> 00:31:52.599
golden tea. If you saw it in an arcade. I said

00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:54.680
Topgolf, that's the actual golf course. Yes,

00:31:54.940 --> 00:31:57.700
it has the same allure. It doesn't have the same

00:31:57.700 --> 00:32:00.140
allure as when you see it in a bar. It belongs

00:32:00.140 --> 00:32:02.480
in a bar. Right. You know? I thought you were

00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:04.460
gonna say shuffleboard. I love an old school

00:32:04.460 --> 00:32:08.440
shuffleboard in a bar. Like the real deal. Remember

00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:13.079
they had the electronic bowling? You know, the

00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:15.259
Shep Hort -style bowling that was like the puck

00:32:15.259 --> 00:32:17.380
you'd... They had the back room at Brownies,

00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:20.180
remember that? Uh -huh. I will die on this hill.

00:32:20.220 --> 00:32:24.440
The absolute best bar room game is the plastic

00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:28.599
dome hockey, USA versus Canada. That, to me,

00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:33.140
is for infinity. It's one of the greatest games

00:32:33.140 --> 00:32:35.349
you can buy. I don't care what age you are. I

00:32:35.349 --> 00:32:37.170
just came across one in Canada not long ago.

00:32:37.269 --> 00:32:40.009
We went to Niagara Falls over the holidays. And

00:32:40.009 --> 00:32:44.069
they had one, and I could not believe it. I shit

00:32:44.069 --> 00:32:46.369
my pants. And not because I was excited, I have

00:32:46.369 --> 00:32:49.930
IBS. But I also played that game, and it was

00:32:49.930 --> 00:32:52.750
great. You know what I'm talking about, the plastic

00:32:52.750 --> 00:32:55.970
dome. Yeah, yeah. And they got the... It's just,

00:32:55.970 --> 00:32:58.589
it's magical. And on that note, happy birthday,

00:32:58.630 --> 00:33:02.630
Phil Fardas. Happy birthday, Phil. You want to

00:33:02.630 --> 00:33:04.450
hear about some news? Please. All right, here's

00:33:04.450 --> 00:33:08.049
the good news. Actually, this isn't real. So,

00:33:08.509 --> 00:33:11.289
Matt, and I'm so glad you don't know about sports.

00:33:11.369 --> 00:33:13.349
I'm nervous. No, no, no, because I want your

00:33:13.349 --> 00:33:15.170
take on this because you have a very unbiased

00:33:15.170 --> 00:33:17.549
take. You don't follow sports. It's true. Long

00:33:17.549 --> 00:33:20.849
story short, there was a quarterback that was

00:33:20.849 --> 00:33:23.069
supposed to go in the first round, okay, and

00:33:23.069 --> 00:33:24.890
he's Deion Sanders' son. Do you know who Deion

00:33:24.890 --> 00:33:26.890
Sanders is? Sure. Have you heard the name? Deion.

00:33:27.029 --> 00:33:31.009
Okay, he doesn't. But, yes, yes. So he's one

00:33:31.009 --> 00:33:32.930
of the most famous athletes of all time, one

00:33:32.930 --> 00:33:34.250
of the greatest football players of all. It's

00:33:34.250 --> 00:33:36.670
his son. Okay. Here's the problem. He sucks?

00:33:36.990 --> 00:33:39.509
He doesn't suck. He's not that great. Fair enough.

00:33:39.630 --> 00:33:42.230
And he's as cocky as his father, if not more.

00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:45.640
He ended up sliding to like the fourth, I think

00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:48.319
the fifth round, which is insane. And it became

00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:50.500
this huge... That means everybody passed over

00:33:50.500 --> 00:33:53.039
him. Everybody passed over him. It became this

00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:56.980
very controversial thing on social media between

00:33:56.980 --> 00:34:00.579
media and fans. Some people thinking it was a

00:34:00.579 --> 00:34:03.920
racial thing. Some people thinking it was unfair.

00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:07.160
Some people thinking... Is it that folks just

00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:09.800
assume because he's a Nepal baby like this, he

00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:12.650
should just get his spot? That's kind of where

00:34:12.650 --> 00:34:17.250
I err on the side of things. I think there was

00:34:17.250 --> 00:34:18.989
a... You know this is a business, right? You

00:34:18.989 --> 00:34:21.090
know the team that can win. The juice wasn't

00:34:21.090 --> 00:34:24.110
worth the squeeze. When you draft him, you're

00:34:24.110 --> 00:34:27.869
going to get an above -average player, but you're

00:34:27.869 --> 00:34:29.769
going to get a media circus. You're going to

00:34:29.769 --> 00:34:32.329
get his father tripping. There's a lot. But they

00:34:32.329 --> 00:34:35.010
turned it into this whole debate. But something

00:34:35.010 --> 00:34:37.469
that happened during the draft that was crazy

00:34:37.469 --> 00:34:41.000
was right around the fourth round... a video

00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:44.239
surfaced online where two kids, they look like

00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:47.900
they're college -aged, pranked him. And what

00:34:47.900 --> 00:34:49.980
happens with football players is they keep their

00:34:49.980 --> 00:34:51.599
phone handy, right? You call them and tell them

00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:53.219
you made the team or something? Right, so when

00:34:53.219 --> 00:34:55.599
you get drafted, usually the GM of the team calls

00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:57.739
you and says, hey, buddy, we're gonna take you

00:34:57.739 --> 00:35:00.980
next, right? So these college kids got his phone

00:35:00.980 --> 00:35:04.659
number, took a video of themselves calling him.

00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:07.679
and telling him, hey, we're from the Saints,

00:35:07.739 --> 00:35:09.440
we're gonna draft you, just kidding, you gotta

00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:12.079
wait longer. And then video surfaced of the other

00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:14.059
side of him picking it up and the poor guy's

00:35:14.059 --> 00:35:18.980
excited. Turns out, the kids that made this call,

00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:22.579
he's the son of one of the Atlanta Falcons coaches.

00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:25.480
And his dad left the lap, because nobody's supposed

00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:27.480
to - He got the number. He got the number. Because

00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:30.599
you can't, I mean, only GMs would have his number.

00:35:30.960 --> 00:35:33.079
So now the Falcons are in trouble, the coach

00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:36.989
is in trouble. Here's my take. 15 -year -old

00:35:36.989 --> 00:35:38.469
me thinks it's fucking awesome. It's a little

00:35:38.469 --> 00:35:41.309
funny. Yeah, it's a little funny. Older Mike

00:35:41.309 --> 00:35:43.429
thinks, man, that's kind of shitty, so I'd love

00:35:43.429 --> 00:35:45.489
to know your take on that. Well, so here's the

00:35:45.489 --> 00:35:50.530
first thing. A, for the kid, it's real shitty

00:35:50.530 --> 00:35:52.849
because... It is. ...of what he did to his dad.

00:35:53.250 --> 00:35:55.789
For really no other reason, right? Like, that's

00:35:55.789 --> 00:35:57.309
one of the things, and of course kids never think

00:35:57.309 --> 00:36:00.389
about this, but, you know, you pull a prank,

00:36:00.469 --> 00:36:02.809
you get caught, ha -ha, whatever, but... The

00:36:02.809 --> 00:36:05.010
fact that you know where you got that and you

00:36:05.010 --> 00:36:07.789
know that that's going to reflect on somebody

00:36:07.789 --> 00:36:10.090
else, that's shitty. It is shitty. Of the kid,

00:36:10.489 --> 00:36:13.210
right? The least he could have done is like,

00:36:13.210 --> 00:36:15.170
you know, fine, get that number to somebody not

00:36:15.170 --> 00:36:17.090
connected somehow. I don't know. Or don't film

00:36:17.090 --> 00:36:22.070
your face. But yeah, yeah. The other side of

00:36:22.070 --> 00:36:23.949
that is, you know, I guess I could see to some

00:36:23.949 --> 00:36:26.869
degree it's funny, but you're also fucking with

00:36:26.869 --> 00:36:28.949
this dude that's... You know, this is the biggest

00:36:28.949 --> 00:36:31.110
point in his career, and you're gonna mess with

00:36:31.110 --> 00:36:34.510
him. It's not really... That's not fair. It's,

00:36:35.010 --> 00:36:38.329
uh... This is a prime example of when I say,

00:36:38.369 --> 00:36:40.750
and I think I've said it on this show, I thank

00:36:40.750 --> 00:36:43.309
God we did not have this kind of social media

00:36:43.309 --> 00:36:45.329
when we were in high school. I would have been

00:36:45.329 --> 00:36:47.829
dead or arrested. I would have done the dumbest

00:36:47.829 --> 00:36:50.250
shit. I mean, he's just a college kid being a

00:36:50.250 --> 00:36:52.489
college kid, you know? But not cool. I'm genuinely

00:36:52.489 --> 00:36:55.710
sort of torn on the idea of pranks in general.

00:36:56.010 --> 00:36:59.260
You know... We all joke around, and I think that's

00:36:59.260 --> 00:37:02.519
great. Sure. But, like, when you had things like,

00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:05.119
uh, Punk'd. Yeah. You know, in some of those

00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:06.920
shows, and you'd see, some of them, a lot of

00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:09.199
times, they made it very convincing that a real

00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:10.699
thing was happening. Justin Timberlake cried.

00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:13.159
And, yeah. Remember that? People really react,

00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.519
or they take a swing at you. Yeah. And, you know,

00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:17.599
like... I did a lot of pranks in high school.

00:37:17.820 --> 00:37:19.800
I don't know. Like, I put fake poop in the carrots.

00:37:20.420 --> 00:37:21.960
You know, little jokes here and there are one

00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:24.500
thing, but I don't know. Then one time, I crisco'd

00:37:24.500 --> 00:37:27.500
the auditorium by those kids. the auditorium

00:37:27.500 --> 00:37:30.300
walkway and this kid, Jeff, slipped and hurt

00:37:30.300 --> 00:37:35.460
his back. I feel bad. What's the... Yikes. So...

00:37:35.460 --> 00:37:36.760
What's the consequence? What's gonna happen?

00:37:36.980 --> 00:37:40.719
Well, it's under investigation. So, I feel bad.

00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:42.980
I honestly, at this age, I feel bad, like you

00:37:42.980 --> 00:37:45.300
said, for the dad who's a coach. In the grand

00:37:45.300 --> 00:37:47.400
scheme of things, like, there was a fucking phone

00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:50.679
call. That's not... It's gonna... It'll be over

00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:52.239
in two days. People are gonna forget about it.

00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:56.190
But, yeah, that... But it was pretty wild to

00:37:56.190 --> 00:38:01.530
see that happening live. And man, yeah, that

00:38:01.530 --> 00:38:03.869
went viral real quick. A lot of clicks for ESPN.

00:38:04.090 --> 00:38:06.909
A lot of clicks for ESPN. They probably should

00:38:06.909 --> 00:38:10.570
pay that kid's legal bill. Yeah, it was pretty

00:38:10.570 --> 00:38:12.250
wild. I had something else I wanted to say about

00:38:12.250 --> 00:38:13.889
it, but I forgot, so I guess it doesn't matter.

00:38:13.909 --> 00:38:17.289
All right. But yeah. What else we got? Well,

00:38:18.070 --> 00:38:20.789
there's my coffee. Good thing it was empty. For

00:38:20.789 --> 00:38:24.760
you hunters out there, It may be time to consider

00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:27.659
changing the age limit for hunting in New York

00:38:27.659 --> 00:38:30.199
State. The youth turkey hunting season for kids

00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:32.260
in New York, currently in New York State, it

00:38:32.260 --> 00:38:34.079
allows for kids to hunt for turkeys before the

00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:37.179
regular season starts in May. All right, the

00:38:37.179 --> 00:38:38.840
hunt - Just for kids portion of the season. I

00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:41.000
guess so. Now, the hunt will be held over two

00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:45.159
days on the 26th and 27th of April, which happened

00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:48.239
two days ago, right? Eligible hunters are youth

00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:51.559
from 12, 13, 14, or 15. Holding a hunting license

00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:53.980
in Turkey permit kids have to have an adult with

00:38:53.980 --> 00:38:56.019
them, okay? But in many other states the minimum

00:38:56.019 --> 00:38:58.000
age required for youth hunting is much lower

00:38:58.000 --> 00:38:59.880
than New York State for example bordering states

00:38:59.880 --> 00:39:02.960
like Pennsylvania Start kids out before 10 years

00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:05.199
old according to Pennsylvania hunting laws kids

00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:09.800
can hunt as young as seven So I you know, I don't

00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:11.820
know at this point there does not seem to be

00:39:11.820 --> 00:39:13.699
any action toward lowering the minimum age requirement

00:39:13.699 --> 00:39:17.219
in New York State, however There are some hunters

00:39:17.219 --> 00:39:20.610
that feel they want their kids to start a little

00:39:20.610 --> 00:39:22.570
younger, and I don't know, you know, that's a

00:39:22.570 --> 00:39:25.449
tough call. Um, yeah, I don't know that we need

00:39:25.449 --> 00:39:27.889
to. I don't know if we do either. It's the year

00:39:27.889 --> 00:39:31.409
2025. Yeah. I get that, like, and I got no problem

00:39:31.409 --> 00:39:35.489
with hunting. No. Um, and I have no problem also

00:39:35.489 --> 00:39:38.449
with, you know, firearm safety, and even at that

00:39:38.449 --> 00:39:41.329
younger age, um, I don't know if there's any

00:39:41.329 --> 00:39:43.849
law that says you can't begin to teach firearm

00:39:43.849 --> 00:39:46.289
safety, maybe even target shooting, things of

00:39:46.289 --> 00:39:48.980
that nature. Sure. Do they need to be hiking

00:39:48.980 --> 00:39:51.119
around in the woods with a firearm at that age?

00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:53.480
I don't know. I just don't know if I necessarily

00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:55.659
see the value in that. Yeah, you know, I used

00:39:55.659 --> 00:39:58.539
to be very against hunting when I was younger

00:39:58.539 --> 00:40:00.760
because I have this whole scenario where I was

00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:02.340
like, I love the art of hunting. You don't want

00:40:02.340 --> 00:40:05.679
to kill Bambi. Well, kind of, yeah. I love the

00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:08.019
idea of hunting. I think it would be amazing.

00:40:08.460 --> 00:40:10.820
But then I have this part of me that goes, but

00:40:10.820 --> 00:40:13.000
what if I shot this deer and he was just on his

00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.139
way home from work and he was going to see his

00:40:15.139 --> 00:40:18.559
baby deer and I just shot him? because Mike wanted

00:40:18.559 --> 00:40:22.820
to and to eat some venison. But then I hit a

00:40:22.820 --> 00:40:24.739
deer multiple times with my car and had to pay

00:40:24.739 --> 00:40:27.199
for it and I'm like, fuck them. And I was like,

00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:29.760
guns a blazing, go get them, boys. Truth be told,

00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:31.619
as many hunters will tell you, deer are actually

00:40:31.619 --> 00:40:33.860
sort of like giant rodents and there's a little

00:40:33.860 --> 00:40:36.780
bit of population control that's really... No,

00:40:36.780 --> 00:40:40.119
it is a real thing. Also, venison tastes really

00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:44.340
good, honestly. But I'm personally not a hunter

00:40:44.340 --> 00:40:45.719
myself. Again, I don't have anything against

00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:48.400
it, but I've just never... been super interested

00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:52.099
in that part either. At the same time, a lot

00:40:52.099 --> 00:40:54.179
of people are. It's a lot of family tradition.

00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:57.719
It's a skill that I think we definitely don't

00:40:57.719 --> 00:40:59.960
want to lose, because I forbid there might come

00:40:59.960 --> 00:41:03.480
a day when we need it to survive. But again,

00:41:03.619 --> 00:41:07.739
I just don't know what the value is in having

00:41:07.739 --> 00:41:11.360
a 10 -year -old take down his first... You want

00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:14.289
to hear something wild. Turkey, I guess, in this

00:41:14.289 --> 00:41:16.090
case we're talking about, not even deer. You

00:41:16.090 --> 00:41:19.130
want to talk about times changing. Now, this

00:41:19.130 --> 00:41:23.969
had to be 1996, 97, I don't know, 95, whatever.

00:41:24.010 --> 00:41:26.070
I feel like that wasn't the times. Herkimer High

00:41:26.070 --> 00:41:27.469
School in Mohawk Valley, that's where I grew

00:41:27.469 --> 00:41:32.329
up. This is a true story. I remember multiple

00:41:32.329 --> 00:41:36.250
times on hunting day, the principal would let

00:41:36.250 --> 00:41:39.219
the kids in Herkimer that hunted... Hunt, and

00:41:39.219 --> 00:41:40.719
then as long as you had a note, you would come

00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:43.280
in after you hunted in the morning. Here's the

00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.539
wild part. They didn't want you to keep your

00:41:45.539 --> 00:41:48.500
guns in the car, okay? So the principal would

00:41:48.500 --> 00:41:51.320
wait at the side door, and you would bring your

00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:53.820
firearm in the school. Holy shit. No bullshit.

00:41:54.300 --> 00:41:56.599
I'm assuming unloaded. And he would walk you

00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:58.519
to your locker so that you could safely put it

00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:01.400
in your locker. Now, if you think about it...

00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:04.920
Seriously? I swear to... I swear. I don't know

00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:06.900
why I knocked on wood. That made no sense, but

00:42:06.900 --> 00:42:09.289
I swear to God. And looking, now remember this

00:42:09.289 --> 00:42:11.250
is the 90s. I don't want anyone emailing Herkimer

00:42:11.250 --> 00:42:14.730
School. This isn't going on now. I'm assuming

00:42:14.730 --> 00:42:17.269
it made, it kind of was, this was before Columbine.

00:42:17.269 --> 00:42:18.969
Well, you're securing it the same way they would

00:42:18.969 --> 00:42:20.949
in other. It was before Columbine, before all

00:42:20.949 --> 00:42:24.800
that stuff. It was honestly safer. for him to

00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:26.679
watch you put it in the locker than just leaving

00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:28.920
it out in the car. It's just a wild concept.

00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:32.800
But we are so, so, so far removed from that.

00:42:32.820 --> 00:42:34.960
We've gotten to the point where there's been

00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:36.699
teachers, and maybe even there's one story I

00:42:36.699 --> 00:42:39.440
feel like might have been a principal, was going

00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:45.440
hunting after work, had his gun secured, unloaded

00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:47.539
safely in the trunk where it should have been

00:42:47.539 --> 00:42:51.380
way out in the parking lot, but mentioned that

00:42:51.380 --> 00:42:55.500
fact that he, you know. And he got arrested and

00:42:55.500 --> 00:42:57.400
all these things, like he brought a weapon to

00:42:57.400 --> 00:42:59.239
school to cause some sort of harm, you know?

00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:04.559
That's wild. It is wild. And I also remember

00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:07.400
my neighbor was a hunter. And he had an old school

00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:09.539
Ford Bronco, which, god, it was gorgeous now

00:43:09.539 --> 00:43:12.159
that I'm looking back. And he had this thing.

00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:14.599
It almost looked like a roller. Was his last

00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:19.460
name Simpson? No, it was a white but it would

00:43:19.460 --> 00:43:21.739
so in the back, you know how like it was like

00:43:21.739 --> 00:43:24.920
a hatchback. Yeah Yeah, we're so in the back

00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:27.760
This roller was attached to the back seat and

00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:30.480
then you would pull it and it would cover The

00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:32.440
the floor and it was so you could put your guns

00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:34.980
in there So and it was the same color as the

00:43:34.980 --> 00:43:36.840
upholstery so it would look like there was nothing

00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:39.739
in there So you could hide your gun gotcha I

00:43:39.739 --> 00:43:40.980
think but again, these were all I guess just

00:43:40.980 --> 00:43:44.079
to store your gun technically but which actually

00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:48.380
Now I know why OJ owned a Bronco. Put the knives

00:43:48.380 --> 00:43:52.420
in there. Anyway, this is so weird that I have

00:43:52.420 --> 00:43:54.800
to talk about it. It's great. All right. But

00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:58.219
when else is the Syracuse Regional Airport going

00:43:58.219 --> 00:44:01.019
to get some lovin' for the award they won for

00:44:01.019 --> 00:44:04.880
snow and ice control? Yeah. Come on. That's right.

00:44:04.940 --> 00:44:07.820
The Syracuse Regional Airport, operator of Syracuse

00:44:07.820 --> 00:44:10.119
Hancock International Airport, has won an award

00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:13.300
for snow and ice control efforts. They won the

00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:17.139
Balkan Post Award for Outstanding Achievement

00:44:17.139 --> 00:44:19.980
in Airport Snow and Ice Control for the Small

00:44:19.980 --> 00:44:24.619
Commercial Airport Agency. Listen, I don't mean

00:44:24.619 --> 00:44:27.059
to cut you off. No, it's fine. If there was ever

00:44:27.059 --> 00:44:30.579
an award to win and be proud of in central New

00:44:30.579 --> 00:44:33.460
York, you nailed it. It is this one. It really

00:44:33.460 --> 00:44:34.699
is. Because I thought you were going to give

00:44:34.699 --> 00:44:37.219
us another award for how much snow got, you know,

00:44:37.300 --> 00:44:39.599
the golden snowball or whatever that bullshit

00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:44.679
is. This genuinely deserves recognition, and

00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:46.000
I'm excited to hear about it. And the reason

00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:48.420
I pulled it is because it's such an obscure award.

00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:50.920
I mean, obviously... You need to give out more

00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:52.760
of these. I'm citing CNY Central. That's where

00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:54.659
I got the story. So they did get some love on

00:44:54.659 --> 00:44:57.199
it. But I was like, no one else is talking about

00:44:57.199 --> 00:44:59.679
it. And I want to shout out to our airport crews

00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:02.019
that keep us safe. To be considered for this

00:45:02.019 --> 00:45:04.699
award, right here behind us, an airport must

00:45:04.699 --> 00:45:06.780
display excellence in the following areas. Now

00:45:06.780 --> 00:45:09.480
they give you criteria. Damn. Degree of in -depth

00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:12.360
preparedness, including a comprehensive snow

00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:15.019
and ice control plan, equipment readiness, personnel

00:45:15.019 --> 00:45:18.039
training, safety awareness. Effectiveness of

00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:20.179
snow and ice control program, examining how well

00:45:20.179 --> 00:45:22.500
the program kept aeronautical areas safe, on

00:45:22.500 --> 00:45:25.539
and on and on. Timeliness and accuracy of communications

00:45:25.539 --> 00:45:29.480
and post -storm activity, including cleanup.

00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:33.019
Wow. I just like that they keep track of this

00:45:33.019 --> 00:45:35.079
shit. Because you ever sit on a plane, especially

00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:37.179
in the winter, and you're watching them de -ice

00:45:37.179 --> 00:45:40.960
and you're going, Are we gonna die today? And

00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:42.500
it's good to know that they know what they're

00:45:42.500 --> 00:45:44.380
doing. They keep the runways clear. They keep

00:45:44.380 --> 00:45:47.579
the runways clear. Skidding like we do on the

00:45:47.579 --> 00:45:50.579
roads. Shout out to Hancock and the crew there.

00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:53.039
We love you guys here at Good News York. Last

00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:56.119
but not least, this story has fascinated me only

00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:57.820
because I want to know what he could have done

00:45:57.820 --> 00:46:01.159
to deserve this. Despite his recent induction

00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:03.460
into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame... Matt,

00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:05.699
I am sad to inform you that Chubby Checker will

00:46:05.699 --> 00:46:07.880
not perform at the New York State Fair in 2025.

00:46:08.619 --> 00:46:11.760
Chubby was not invited back, said his manager.

00:46:12.260 --> 00:46:14.480
She said, unfortunately, Chubby Checker. It's

00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:18.340
like a fat shaming thing. Could be. A fan favorite

00:46:18.340 --> 00:46:20.139
and staple at the New York State Fair over the

00:46:20.139 --> 00:46:23.099
years will not twist again like he did last summer.

00:46:24.260 --> 00:46:26.719
That's godawful. Fans, friends, and local media

00:46:26.719 --> 00:46:28.440
were hoping to see him at his annual show this

00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:29.639
summer. Fair representative told his manager

00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:31.800
that Chubby was not invited back. Here's the

00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:35.820
thing. They don't tell us why. So that begs the

00:46:35.820 --> 00:46:38.800
question I'm asking you. What are the some things

00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:40.940
that Chubby Checker could have done to not be

00:46:40.940 --> 00:46:42.639
invited? There's another story that came out

00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:45.079
that said they're booking this new act this year

00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:49.659
called Fit and Healthy Checker. Chubby Chess.

00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:55.659
Chubby in New York State. We know that's false.

00:46:56.480 --> 00:46:59.800
Here's the thing. I mean... Who gives a shit?

00:46:59.960 --> 00:47:02.860
That's kind of what I was thinking. Like, not

00:47:02.860 --> 00:47:04.900
to knock, you know, and obviously he's still

00:47:04.900 --> 00:47:07.199
alive, so there's gotta be people still alive

00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:09.679
who go to see him, but I can't imagine there

00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:12.480
are that many. Well, and what, I mean, what's

00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:15.260
he gonna perform? Retire. Twist over and over?

00:47:15.380 --> 00:47:18.099
Can I ask this question? I have an answer, actually.

00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:22.179
When the fuck did retirement become a horrible

00:47:22.179 --> 00:47:24.579
thing in the United States? I don't, I do not...

00:47:24.579 --> 00:47:28.159
Where is this idea that in... You know who knows

00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:30.760
God forbid you know something could happen in

00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:32.619
this guy had a very successful career, but you

00:47:32.619 --> 00:47:35.300
know maybe maybe he genuinely needs to generate

00:47:35.300 --> 00:47:40.260
the income, but I I don't know like We got it.

00:47:40.300 --> 00:47:41.980
We got to make these people I saw a video recently

00:47:41.980 --> 00:47:46.050
a Frankie Valley Mm. Oh, God. I know exactly

00:47:46.050 --> 00:47:48.789
where he looks like a Chuck E. Cheese puppet.

00:47:49.369 --> 00:47:51.849
He looks animatronic -like. They pumped him up

00:47:51.849 --> 00:47:54.369
on everything they possibly could so he would

00:47:54.369 --> 00:47:58.570
just stand there. It's awful. And it's like...

00:47:58.570 --> 00:48:01.809
Come on, man. They're doing incredible artists

00:48:01.809 --> 00:48:04.190
a disservice... I'm gonna ruin this. ...to show

00:48:04.190 --> 00:48:07.070
him this way. Here's the thing. You are not wrong.

00:48:07.510 --> 00:48:09.610
It's the old, you gotta know when to hold them,

00:48:09.650 --> 00:48:11.730
know when to fold them, right? There's athletes

00:48:11.730 --> 00:48:13.829
that people go... I think you should have retired

00:48:13.829 --> 00:48:15.329
three years soon. I mean this in every aspect

00:48:15.329 --> 00:48:17.610
of life. But, especially politics. I will ruin

00:48:17.610 --> 00:48:20.889
it by telling you, musicians, the reason you're

00:48:20.889 --> 00:48:23.010
seeing really, really old musicians, like Art

00:48:23.010 --> 00:48:25.710
Garfunkel wasn't touring and now like he played

00:48:25.710 --> 00:48:28.489
at the state theater years ago, that's because

00:48:28.489 --> 00:48:32.210
in the music business, albums aren't monetary

00:48:32.210 --> 00:48:35.300
anymore. They don't have... You used to be able

00:48:35.300 --> 00:48:37.320
to record an album, and then you would make what

00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.199
they call mailbox money, right? You're making

00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:40.960
money while you're asleep. Residuals. Every time

00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:42.340
somebody buys it, they play it on the radio,

00:48:42.380 --> 00:48:45.019
whatever. Bands and artists now make all their

00:48:45.019 --> 00:48:47.820
money on touring and merchandise. So when the

00:48:47.820 --> 00:48:49.820
mailbox money starts running out for Chubby Checker,

00:48:50.179 --> 00:48:52.679
he's got to get his chubby ass onto the tour

00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:55.960
bus, and he's got to perform to make money. And

00:48:55.960 --> 00:48:57.780
I mean, I can't prove that that's why he's touring,

00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:02.599
but I mean, that's the logical... But... I got

00:49:02.599 --> 00:49:04.099
something else that's gonna make you feel like,

00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:06.380
who gives a shit even more? I don't even think

00:49:06.380 --> 00:49:08.480
he wrote. I have to look that up. I don't think

00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:10.900
he wrote Twist. So it was written for him. A

00:49:10.900 --> 00:49:12.920
lot of famous artists have it. It was like when

00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:15.480
Benny Mardonis would play... I don't know. I

00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:18.679
feel like... Cino. Love lived, doesn't it? I

00:49:18.679 --> 00:49:20.260
don't know the guy's personal situation, and

00:49:20.260 --> 00:49:21.639
I certainly don't want to knock him, because...

00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:24.480
No, no, no! We love you, Chubby. It seems like

00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:27.980
if you're successful in life... A, I wonder if

00:49:27.980 --> 00:49:29.239
at that point he ever thought he was never gonna

00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:31.360
live this long. You know, so I don't even make

00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:33.780
my money last till I'm 100. Is he gonna twist

00:49:33.780 --> 00:49:35.719
again? That's on 100, and now suddenly you're

00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:39.059
like, I'm broke and I'm 100. But like, somewhere

00:49:39.059 --> 00:49:40.679
along the line, I feel like there should be some

00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:43.519
sort of financial advisor and a plan that makes

00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:48.300
sure that you don't have to go to work at that

00:49:48.300 --> 00:49:50.739
age. So in other words, you're saying you want

00:49:50.739 --> 00:49:54.300
a 401K for musicians. You know, just some kind

00:49:54.300 --> 00:49:57.159
of intelligent planning so they could try to

00:49:57.159 --> 00:49:59.150
avoid that situation. You know what I mean? All

00:49:59.150 --> 00:50:00.969
right, listen. And you hear about it. You hear

00:50:00.969 --> 00:50:03.869
about, like, professional athletes, you know,

00:50:04.030 --> 00:50:08.449
professional wrestlers that, multi -millionaires,

00:50:08.849 --> 00:50:11.789
and that are all now broke. Oh. You know, a sad

00:50:11.789 --> 00:50:15.170
story. Fogarty, John Fogarty, I mean, he's fine

00:50:15.170 --> 00:50:19.289
now. He got ripped off badly by his management.

00:50:19.369 --> 00:50:20.309
There's a lot of those stories. Well, I mean,

00:50:20.369 --> 00:50:22.789
there's stuff like that, and that is even less

00:50:22.789 --> 00:50:26.619
that you can blame the artist, but... Yeah. I

00:50:26.619 --> 00:50:28.400
don't know, man. There wasn't as much transparency

00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:33.619
as now. Yeah. I mean, now, Wu -Tang Clan has

00:50:33.619 --> 00:50:36.440
a residency in Vegas. I mean, what a time to

00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:39.440
be alive, huh? That is awesome. That is awesome.

00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:44.119
So on that note, I'd love to end the show on

00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:49.239
some more positivity. Oh. So there are very few,

00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:51.710
and we've... We've shouted out a couple and we'll

00:50:51.710 --> 00:50:53.530
continue to shout out more. There's very few

00:50:53.530 --> 00:50:56.170
sort of serious content creators in central New

00:50:56.170 --> 00:50:58.750
York right now. And I don't mean there aren't

00:50:58.750 --> 00:51:00.809
a lot of people making podcasts. We're helping

00:51:00.809 --> 00:51:04.090
a huge number of companies start their podcasts

00:51:04.090 --> 00:51:07.190
here at Growth Mode Content, but companies like

00:51:07.190 --> 00:51:10.949
us creating shows sort of as a full -time business

00:51:10.949 --> 00:51:13.710
are few and far between. And we mentioned - Our

00:51:13.710 --> 00:51:16.769
friends at, what is it, 315? Yeah, we mentioned

00:51:16.769 --> 00:51:20.199
Love Living Local. That's it. 315. Again, I still

00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:21.900
don't know those folks, but they have reached

00:51:21.900 --> 00:51:23.300
out to us. We're going to have them on the show.

00:51:23.699 --> 00:51:25.719
And we'd love to see that. And there's some other

00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:29.760
folks. And I recently came across this podcast.

00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:31.940
I've been hearing a lot about it. I believe it's

00:51:31.940 --> 00:51:36.760
called Captivate CNY. Oh, with Alex? It's from

00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:39.619
Alex, who started the CNY Woman's Network. She's

00:51:39.619 --> 00:51:43.300
phenomenal. She is putting in the full -time

00:51:43.300 --> 00:51:46.860
effort. to really build a strong and successful

00:51:46.860 --> 00:51:48.559
podcast and I really want to give her a shout

00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:51.800
out because she most recently did An episode

00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:53.800
that I think if you want to figure out what she's

00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:55.699
got going on It's the one to check out because

00:51:55.699 --> 00:51:57.500
she recently did an episode where she kind of

00:51:57.500 --> 00:51:59.659
tells her story It's just her it's not a guest

00:51:59.659 --> 00:52:02.360
and she goes into what she did how she got there

00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:06.179
and where she's taking it and I gained nothing

00:52:06.179 --> 00:52:07.960
but respect for her listening to that episode

00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:10.280
because her story is awesome. And one of the

00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:13.619
things that that I admire so much is one of these

00:52:13.619 --> 00:52:16.219
things that people give me compliments for and

00:52:16.219 --> 00:52:19.860
I feel uneasy about, which is that she's just

00:52:19.860 --> 00:52:22.599
doing it, right? There's so many of these entrepreneurs

00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:24.599
we talk about and we see out in the world that

00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:27.400
they've got great ideas and big dreams and all

00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.360
these other things, but you gotta just do it.

00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:33.599
You know, at any level. And that's what she's

00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:36.199
really stuck or knocked out on. On multiple occasions,

00:52:36.460 --> 00:52:38.335
and if you listen to that show, you'll hear...

00:52:38.329 --> 00:52:40.750
that she's just taking those steps necessary

00:52:40.750 --> 00:52:43.090
to give the thing a shot, and it might not work,

00:52:43.269 --> 00:52:47.329
but it is for her. And she's doing a great job

00:52:47.329 --> 00:52:50.750
in heavily integrating that content creation

00:52:50.750 --> 00:52:53.389
and podcasting, which obviously I'm nothing but

00:52:53.389 --> 00:52:56.969
a fan of. Yeah, and to further that, you know,

00:52:57.070 --> 00:53:00.010
first of all, I have a young daughter. She's

00:53:00.010 --> 00:53:04.599
pre -teen. And I look to women... in the media

00:53:04.599 --> 00:53:06.400
industry, well, in all industries, but in media

00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:10.900
like Amina Kimes from ESPN and, you know, and

00:53:10.900 --> 00:53:13.760
Alex from right here in Syracuse as kind of like

00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:16.539
a bar of like, see that? You can do whatever

00:53:16.539 --> 00:53:19.179
you want. And I mean, look at these strong, independent

00:53:19.179 --> 00:53:21.239
women, like, you know, representing women and

00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:23.480
doing their thing and doing it well. Right. And,

00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:25.880
you know, the other thing, I'm so glad you brought

00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:27.849
this up because... You know, I think there's

00:53:27.849 --> 00:53:30.989
this sense of competition in every industry,

00:53:31.269 --> 00:53:33.889
right? Like, oh, you guys must hate that there's

00:53:33.889 --> 00:53:36.949
other podcasts in through. No! The more, the

00:53:36.949 --> 00:53:38.849
merrier. When you think about that, what a silly

00:53:38.849 --> 00:53:41.250
concept, right? It's the dumbest. Like, we have

00:53:41.250 --> 00:53:43.190
our own thing. They have their own thing. And

00:53:43.190 --> 00:53:44.869
we're all better together. And I'm not trying

00:53:44.869 --> 00:53:48.230
to sound kumbayash, but one of my friends, owner

00:53:48.230 --> 00:53:51.030
of the Ithaca Ale House, shout out, John, taught

00:53:51.030 --> 00:53:53.110
me years ago. There was tons of restaurants moving

00:53:53.110 --> 00:53:56.440
in the neighborhood. And I go, oh, man, that's

00:53:56.440 --> 00:53:58.440
tough for you, huh? He goes, no, it's great.

00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:00.659
He goes, more restaurants, the better. It's more

00:54:00.659 --> 00:54:03.320
foot traffic, more people, more options. 100%.

00:54:03.320 --> 00:54:07.139
But even more options, how is that better? Because

00:54:07.139 --> 00:54:09.780
they all work together. You gotta eat every day.

00:54:09.780 --> 00:54:11.199
Yeah. And you can't eat the same thing every

00:54:11.199 --> 00:54:13.300
day. That's right. And the same goes with content

00:54:13.300 --> 00:54:15.300
creation podcasts. And you're absolutely right.

00:54:15.739 --> 00:54:18.039
And just one of the things that I will say that

00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:21.820
I truly admire about Alex in that podcast is

00:54:21.820 --> 00:54:25.130
she's very, very much pro Syracuse, pro local

00:54:25.130 --> 00:54:29.289
area, which we love. And like you said, it's

00:54:29.289 --> 00:54:33.710
so silly because it's not like we're TV shows

00:54:33.710 --> 00:54:36.130
that are on at the same time. We don't have to

00:54:36.130 --> 00:54:37.769
pay attention to ratings. It's not the way this

00:54:37.769 --> 00:54:40.710
modern content world works. You go to Netflix

00:54:40.710 --> 00:54:42.250
and they got a million different shows. They

00:54:42.250 --> 00:54:44.530
don't compete against each other. You also have,

00:54:44.949 --> 00:54:47.030
we do an hour long show. She does an hour long

00:54:47.030 --> 00:54:51.059
show. You got, you know. 20 more hours in your

00:54:51.059 --> 00:54:53.400
day to listen to other content as well. There's

00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:56.559
room for all of us. And by the way, just supporting

00:54:56.559 --> 00:54:59.800
this concept and getting the idea. And the last

00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:01.239
thing I'll say about her and I'll let you finish.

00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:03.599
No, no, I keep interrupting. Is that one of the

00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:05.960
things that she mentioned that really just made

00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:08.960
me smile from ear to ear is she mentioned how

00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:11.780
great of a tool her podcast is for networking

00:55:11.780 --> 00:55:14.599
and connecting with business people that she

00:55:14.599 --> 00:55:17.179
wants to connect with on a business standpoint,

00:55:18.179 --> 00:55:20.760
aside from the content. And this is a concept

00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:23.360
that I've talked about ad nauseam. It's something

00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:25.860
that we've talked about extensively with all

00:55:25.860 --> 00:55:29.019
our current and even prospective clients of growth

00:55:29.019 --> 00:55:31.599
mode content that are making that. And the fact

00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:34.519
that people are taking advantage of that and

00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:37.059
realizing that opportunity like she is, that's

00:55:37.059 --> 00:55:39.679
a message that I want everybody to hear. So back

00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:42.900
to what we were saying, the fact that there are

00:55:42.900 --> 00:55:45.670
other people locally killing it. spreading the

00:55:45.670 --> 00:55:48.230
good word about what organic content can do for

00:55:48.230 --> 00:55:53.130
them is just awesome. And hats off without taking

00:55:53.130 --> 00:55:55.469
my hat. Hats off to Alex, and hats off, I'm just

00:55:55.469 --> 00:55:58.789
gonna say, have you, her set, the way... She's

00:55:58.789 --> 00:56:00.190
got a different one in this new episode. Oh,

00:56:00.210 --> 00:56:02.829
she does. Also looks great, but yeah, it's...

00:56:02.829 --> 00:56:04.710
But I mean... Just does a top -notch job all

00:56:04.710 --> 00:56:06.349
the way around. From the decor to the lighting

00:56:06.349 --> 00:56:10.719
to the quality, it's... Tip of the cap will throw

00:56:10.719 --> 00:56:13.079
the link and like I said, she's got a whole there's

00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:14.980
a considerable number of episodes She's been

00:56:14.980 --> 00:56:17.159
going for a couple of years, but this particular

00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:20.480
one that is I think the newest Will link to it.

00:56:20.579 --> 00:56:23.400
I think just is a great she did a fantastic job

00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:25.019
of giving the idea who she is what she's doing

00:56:25.019 --> 00:56:26.619
Which is awesome. What's the name of the show

00:56:26.619 --> 00:56:28.619
if they want to I want I don't want to screw

00:56:28.619 --> 00:56:31.519
it up I want to say it's captivate CNY. We probably

00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:32.800
should have looked at nothing close to that.

00:56:32.900 --> 00:56:35.380
Sorry Alex You'll find it left my notes in the

00:56:35.380 --> 00:56:37.570
other room. So I'm reasonably sure that's what

00:56:37.570 --> 00:56:39.150
it's called, though, so if I get it right, I

00:56:39.150 --> 00:56:40.530
feel like I should get bonus points. Sounds right.

00:56:40.690 --> 00:56:44.750
But anyway... Well, I think that's it, pal. Yeah,

00:56:44.889 --> 00:56:46.670
let's... Tuesday news day. Shut up for a minute.

00:56:46.869 --> 00:56:49.849
Shut it up. Send this to the editors. Send it

00:56:49.849 --> 00:56:53.170
to the editors. Well, we will be back tomorrow.

00:56:53.849 --> 00:56:57.090
We do have guests coming in, I think. What do

00:56:57.090 --> 00:56:58.989
we got tomorrow? Let me take a look real, real

00:56:58.989 --> 00:57:01.590
quick. Sorry, I just hadn't hit that yet today.

00:57:01.719 --> 00:57:04.260
Stick around we do have in the next coming weeks

00:57:04.260 --> 00:57:06.139
We've got some really great guests coming up

00:57:06.139 --> 00:57:08.619
and you've got Matt and I Matt Mazer Mike Brindisi

00:57:08.619 --> 00:57:11.280
here on Good News York Have a great rest of your

00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:13.480
Tuesday. Thanks to Danny Rodden the board and

00:57:13.480 --> 00:57:16.300
Danny Cipoti Thanks again for Greg for stopping

00:57:16.300 --> 00:57:20.400
by the show. Greg Ordon photographer again CNY

00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:24.760
headshots 315 is his handle on social media gtophoto

00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:27.699
.com So yeah, thank you Greg. Peace out