Hey, guys, welcome to Good News York. This is
a super special episode. I'm very excited because
this is in hats off to our man, Mike, our super
producer here. I don't know about that. This
is a phenomenal get. We got an incredible guest.
I am I am so excited as a as a 90s kid, you know,
and a musician. This is a band from the 90s and
the drummer. Mr. Aaron comas is joining us willfully.
I'm not even talking we like we begged Yeah I
asked if the if any of the band could do an interview
and they got back to me and said Aaron would
like to do this interview which I Made our day.
Welcome to Good News York, Aaron. We are You
as well Aaron and by the way, I don't know if
I even mentioned my name is Matt by the way I
know you've been interacting with Mike a little
bit but We're really excited to have you and,
you know, we're going to talk about a few things,
including your tour. You got a new album. And
of course, you've been an absolute rock star
for as long as we can all remember. And we're
going to want to hear some stories about that.
But before we get to the music, I just I want
to know a little bit about Aaron, like who are
you just as a human? What are you into aside
from the stuff that we know you for? Well, you
know, let's say I've been in New York City and
moved here in 1988. I'm actually in Buffalo right
now because we're playing here tomorrow. But
I grew up in Dallas, Texas. So I spent like my
high school years in Dallas. So I'm a long time.
I probably shouldn't say this if this is like
Aaron in the Buffalo area. But I'm a long time
Dallas Cowboys fan. I'm a die hard Bills fan,
Aaron. Come on. They'll give you a pass for the
day. But you know, I got to tell you, I'm rooting
for the I'm always rooting for the Bills now
because it's a great team and they just seem
to get screwed over every time. Aaron, it is
it is at this point. In my lifetime it is beyond.
I mean, it's like this this franchise is cursed
I'm not sure I believe in curses, but I don't
know how they don't just lose They find ways
to lose in these epic fashions that they're almost
impressive, you know, I mean what happy I just
last year What was it was that crazy game? Oh,
please which one? There was wide, right? Well,
we I'm happy about my Cowboys wins in the 90s,
but you know, it's been it's been a long 25 years
since we've done anything they've been they've
been very dormant and what i mean by that is
in the off season They're just not, remember
the days of Dion and all these big stars and
it gets to free agency and it's like the cowboys
are just doing nothing. I don't understand. I
don't get it. Listen, you know how it is. You
grew up with the team as a child. I'm old enough
to have been around in the Roger Stalbach era
and then in the 90s, Tom Landraven, remember
that. Like you know I stick with my team, but
I gotta tell you man It's it's getting harder
and harder, and if it wasn't from Dallas. I because
there's a lot of things I don't like about the
Cowboys Yeah, I'll be honest with I stick with
them. Well you should stick with them. Are you
in the Jerry Jones? I don't want to get you in
trouble. Are you in the Jerry Jones needs to
go camp or Absolutely good me too. I think pretty
much everybody is in Dallas now He's right come
on, but go ahead. Sorry What's he done in the
last 30 years? I mean, he's made millions of
billions of dollars. But like you said, I mean,
he has these opportunities to get to do things.
And it's just what is he doing? He should have
totally gotten Dion man to coach. Yeah, I thought
that's exactly what was going to happen. But,
you know, the thing with Jerry Jones is he's
riding off of, you know, he came in with a bang,
brings in this coach from Arkansas. Nobody knows
why you're bringing in this Jimmy Johnson. And
they win and they win big. And so because of
that. Because of that, I think is the only reason
why he's been able, you know, they've been able
to hang on because they just haven't done much
since. They got that name brand and they make
all that money. That's it. I mean, what? They
still like the I think the richest sports team
in the world. They I think they are still I think
they surpassed once they built a new stadium.
I think they're worth surpass the Yankees, which
is like wild. Wow. It's pretty wild. It is wild.
Considering they haven't been in a Super Bowl
in 30 years. I know. I look I'm from the camp
of owners should own coaches should coach players
play. And I think if Jerry relinquishes that
that that stronghold over the whole organization,
I think everyone benefits from it. I agree. Well,
just just so you know unless the cowboys are
playing the bills. I do root for the bills 100
% You know what you guys you guys deserve a Super
Bowl man. You're gonna get me all choked up over
here I wish I can say the same. I don't always
root for the Cowboys. I feel bad I wish I could
return the favor. So maybe I will know you shouldn't
Two times in a row in the Super Bowl was enough
What a team that was anyway, we turned into a
sports show. This is great. Yeah, it's my wheelhouse.
I'm in music sports Aaron you said you've been
in New York since the late 80s. What you know,
our show is good news York So one of the things
that we really like to promote is just the things
that are awesome about our state and all over
the place Yeah, if you could just real quick,
what are one of the reasons that you've kind
of stuck around? What what do you like about?
the empire state i i love new york i mean i when
i was younger i always knew i wanted to be a
professional musician so i kind of got into my
head from an early age that i was either going
to move to new york city or to los angeles sure
because those are you know especially at the
time the big music capital that's where you had
to be Yeah. You know, all my favorite musicians
lived in one of those two cities. And, you know,
I visited New York. My dad took me up here, you
know, looking at colleges. And I just loved it.
Just, you know, a lot of my favorite music came
from up here. So ultimately, I ended up coming
up here and going. First, I did a year at Berkeley
in Boston, and then I moved back to Dallas for
a year. And when I was at Boston, I would come
visit some friends in New York. So after one
year back in Dallas, I decided I'm going to move
to New York. And I went to the new school for
a couple years, which is where the band met up,
actually. Wow. But I've been, you know, I've
seen, you know, I've seen so many people move.
And I get it. I mean, New York's a it'll suck
you in, spit you out kind of place. So it's a,
you know, I definitely, you know, you kind of
got to get to a certain level, I think, career
wise to or you're just going to be like roughing
out your whole life, you know. Yeah. And a lot
of people a lot of people do because a lot of
people put up with that just because the city
is so cool. You know, sure. I mean, I just love
the people there, and I love all the culture,
and I'm a big foodie, and I think it's the best
food city in the entire world. And I've been
all over the world. New York City is great. And
the state, too. I have a place upstate in the
Catskills. Oh, wow. I just love the whole state.
It's such a beautiful state. I think a lot of
people don't know how beautiful New York State
is unless you get out of the city. I mean, it's
incredible, man. Yeah. We deal with, you know,
whenever we, when I would travel outside of New
York State, if I said I was from New York, they'd
be like, oh, you're from the city. And then I'd
go down to the city. And anytime I'm visiting
people in the city, they'd say, where are you
from? I'd say upstate. And they'd be like, oh,
like Newburgh or the Catskills. No, no, no. I
mean, upstate. I don't think I don't think they
know that there's life up here. I think they
think it's just woods and animals. I don't know.
Yeah, in Canada. Everything north of Poughkeepsie
is Canada. That's right. I mean, it's interesting.
I mean, I was reading something the other day.
I think the Buffalo was like one of the most
desirable places to buy a home right now or something.
Yeah. This city is really it's really like kind
of. Turning around a lot. It is it's on the mend
and so is Syracuse as well this whole region
really from Syracuse to Buffalo and honestly
Albany even is but It's become which is crazy
because we're been notorious for people leaving
and now it's exactly the other directions Mike
Ron is it's good to hear because it's funny how
like a lot of these Killer cities, you know,
like you just mentioned Albany Buffalo Syracuse
Rochester. They never could like kind of even
get to like Cleveland status. Cleveland's a fucking
shithole. I'm really happy to see these cities
grow up in a good way. People are moving here.
It's because they're great. Yeah. Appreciate
that. Yeah. So I think that's a great sort of
segue into why you're in town, why you're in
Buffalo currently. You're on tour. And you're
playing at the casino, if I'm not mistaken, right?
You guys spin doctors playing at the Seneca Niagara
Resort and Casino tomorrow night, April 18th
and Saturday, April 19th. And you are promoting
your new album, Face Full of Cake, which I checked
out. I already have my favorite songs off the
record. This is exciting spin doctors. Are going
to be performing at the Seneca Niagara Resort
Casino tomorrow night 4 18 and Saturday 4 19
promoting your new record Faceful of cake and
I listened to it. I have three favorites off
the record Can I can I ask one question before
you get into your show detailed research? I just
got to ask how much cake was consumed in the
making of this record. It's a great to make you
want to know what we consume a lot of during
the making this record was chili Okay. Oh, I
love chili. We should we should maybe we should
have caught a face full of chili. There's this
place by the studio we worked at in Asbury Park
called Cardinal Provisions and they just made
the best chili. So like every day at around two,
we would reward ourselves after we got to take
a good song we liked and we'd order a bunch of
chili. We literally had chili every day. That's
wild. That is I could eat chili every day. My
wife thinks it's disgusting. I I love it. And
I'll tell you what a little little tidbit. So
my hometown, the small town I was from, the people
of our town were known as cake eaters. That's
true. So, you know, when I just hear, I don't
know. That's all I can think of is back in the
day being the cake eaters. But anyway, proceed
with actual questions about the music. I like
talking about chili. So Faceful of Cake, this
is your first return since 2013. And the creative
genesis began after being locked down in COVID.
And correct. What I love about that is That you
guys came together and I know this as a musician
myself and it was almost like it seems like it
was a fresh start for you and There was no pressure
and it was almost like that time away from you
guys It gave you it reinvigorated you and and
and to me like this is an example of what I talked
about With people during the pandemic, which
was like there was a lot of bad during the pandemic
but there was a lot of good that came from the
pandemic too. And this is what I, I feel like
this is an example. Am I right? Yeah. I mean,
you know, we were, we've been talking about making
a record for a while because it had been a long
time and sort of during the lockdown, we sort
of started talking about, well, let's, you know,
once this thing blows over a little bit, let's
get together and do some writing sessions. Cause
it's been a while since we... got we always sort
of break off in different groups and write songs.
And so finally, after like, you know, the things
were really bad, everybody started to feel a
little more comfortable getting out. Eric and
Chris got together. up at Mike Gordon's house.
He has a studio up in Vermont. Yeah, from Phish.
Yeah, so they went up there and met and wrote
a couple songs. And then me and Chris got together
and wrote some songs. And then me and Eric got
together. And we just get together in these different
groups. And we did that a few times. And after
like, you know, three or four of those writing
sessions, we had a nice selection of material.
And we just made some really crappy demos. Like
a lot of the stuff was just like on our phones.
Sure. We did a few on my studio, but we weren't
trying to make it good. We were just like, let's
just get it down. And then finally it came time
to, we were like, well, let's go in the studio
and make some like really good demos. And so
we have a new bass player, Jack Daly, who he's
got a really great studio in Asbury Park. So
we decided to go down there and just. very chill.
It was like you said, there was absolutely no
pressure, no label involved. We weren't even
really thinking of it as a record. We're like,
let's just go record these songs and see how
they come out. And I think just because there
was no pressure, we were just in a really good
vibe. You know, we hadn't seen each other in
a while. It just was kind of effortless and the
songs just everything just came together and
like after about You know three or four days.
We're listening back to a couple songs. We're
like, you know, this is like this is cool I mean,
I think this might actually be the record, you
know, forget about the demos, you know And that's
kind of what happened, you know and two weeks
later we had we had a record You know one of
my favorite stories about uh that i've read about
during this time Is that you you guys have a
song on the record? I believe it's is it still
a gorilla. Is that the right name? Yeah. Yeah.
Yes, and I totally connect with this I read that
you had had that piece of music for a long time
and Chris had been writing lyrics and it just
it just wasn't happening and then something happened
during this process and you guys like wrote it
in an hour and I get that because I had a band
and I had a piece of music that I had had for
years. And then one day my bass player was in
rehearsal and he was playing something. And I
said, that almost fits the riff I have. And sure
enough, it fit and boom, it happened. Isn't that
just the best feeling when something like that
comes together? Oh, totally. I had this music
laying around. I have my own... instrumental
group, sort of jazz, rock, whatever you want
to call it. And I had this song called Gorilla,
which is this piece of music. And I played it
in my group. You know, I always saw how, you
know, for an instrumental track, it just would
really get a good reaction. So I kind of had
it in the back of my mind for years. This might
be a cool song for the spin doctors, you know.
And about seven or eight years ago, I went over
to Chris's house and we were doing a writing
session and nothing really came of it, you know.
Hello. And nothing came of it. And I think a
lot of it, I think with our band in particular,
with writing, everybody's got to be in the same
frame of mind. We've had periods through our
career where we would just spit out songs, it
was effortless. And other times it was kind of
a struggle. And so that was the end of this song.
And then when we got, when we started doing these
other writing sessions, I brought it back in.
And it still was like, out of all the songs,
every other song that we brought in, it just
we'd have a song in like an hour it was just
so effortless you know and um and with this one
that even when i brought it back it was like
okay it was it was cool but it wasn't quite there
And I remember being kind of bummed about it.
I think I got to save this song. I know I can
save this song, you know, and I came up with
this other side. I was like, it really needs
a stronger chorus. So I came up with some chords
that I thought would be nice for chorus. I sent
him over for Chris and he he came over the next
day and I figured out how to write with Chris.
I just invite him over for dinner. Yeah. Come
over. We'll write some music to get everything
done. Your wife dinner. Chilly. And I invite
him over for Chilly Charm. So he came by and
it just like he said, you know within an hour
It was just we had it and it was you know It
was I'm glad that I like kind of like stuck with
it, you know Because because it was really the
only song on the record that was sort of troublesome
and I it ended up being one of the cooler tracks
You know, yeah, and it's a great track. I uh,
I have a couple favorites While you're holding
the moon over me that just makes me want to lay
on the front lawn on like a summer day and smoke
a joint. It's phenomenal. OK, thank you. And
then there's a really interesting review. No,
it's great. She stands alone. She's got, you
know, real driving guitars. But the one that
hooked me was the last track. When you get was
it when you get turmoil on your mind, it's very
like it's darker, it's bluesier, like a Hendrix
and Black Keys type vibe. OK. And the reason
I'm bringing this up is You can hear how much,
you know, just kind of the way you guys have
grown over the years. You can tell that this
record was done with a different approach creatively
than the other records. And we kind of talked
about that. It was the whole reuniting after
Covid. But I feel like the sound is it's reflected
on the record that, you know, that that that
growth and that kind of like, hey, let's just
fucking do this thing. And you can hear it, man.
Well, that's good to hear and like and uh, you
know turmoil in my mind Was a song that eric
and chris wrote that first session when they
met up at mike's house And that was and it came
from I think chris just had like a poem It wasn't
any kind of melody or lyrics And he read it to
eric and eric came up with that that music and
that riff and they sort of like Put it together
and um, and then and it's great. It's a really
cool song And then Moon, Holdin' the Moon, that
was another one where I invited Chris over for
dinner. I showed him that music, and again, in
an hour, he'd have lyrics, and then I cooked
him a nice steak. It's amazing. Aaron, let me
ask you a question about that. As Mike talked
about the evolution of your music, you're...
had massive hits starting in the early 90s that
are still in regular rotation on the radio. And
that's got to be an awesome feeling. Right. But
one of the things that I'm interested in is your
perspective of having been in the industry so
long. Where do you feel like sort of music in
general has gone over these these years that
you've been in the industry? And do you like
where it's at today? I mean, I think music is
as good as good as ever. I mean, there's so much
I see so much talent, like just from like the
individual You know musicians and and bands and
artists and you know, there's so much different
types of music I feel like I feel like in general
like musicians and music lovers are more open
than they ever were because there's just so much
stuff now and things don't seem to be put in
as much of a box anymore probably because you
know There's not labels and radio station right
to put them such a box, you know, and so I think
I think artistically it's in great shape but
from a business point of view and from from like
a you know young artist musician songwriter band
trying to make a living it's really difficult
because Because there's so much out there. It's
like everything's over saturated and you know,
it's you know, it's just hard I mean, I've always
believed the cream rises the top but it's harder
than ever now man because you know Think about
how much, every day, I mean, I forgot the number,
but the amount of songs that come out every day
is in the thousands. It's just stupid. And back
when we were growing up, Matt. You know, there
were only a couple places you went to find new
music, right? So it would be like MTV. It would
be the radio. Maybe it would be Rolling Stone
magazine. And when the Internet came out, it
wasn't as, you know, hot as it is now. But you
could find stuff. And now it's the labels and
society would kind of tell you, hey, this is
the new hot band. This is the new thing. Now
people, you know. Betsy from North Carolina can
find a band and post it on her account and suddenly
they blow up. I mean, it's yeah, but there's
so much of it exactly So there's I think this
is you know, there's a positive side and a negative
side to it You know, I mean like like you said
that we were kind of spoon -fed like what what
to hear in a way But like even with that said
like think about it like, you know in order to
make a record You had to get a label, whether
it was an independent label or a major label,
or maybe you had rich parents. But you needed
a label, really. And people like to say, oh,
it was whatever. But I think the cream rises
at the top. It's hard to get a label. You had
to have a good thing going. You had to have a
good band, good songs. And then for as hard as
it was, even at that point, to get success, You
know, but there was an easier formula. I mean,
I think about us, you know, coming out in the
early 90s. I mean, it was really in some ways
the in a lot of ways, I think it was the peak
of the music of the record industry because you
had, you know, you had just the CDs were just
coming out. So labels were making so much money
because everybody was rebuying all their favorite
records on CD. And, you know, you had MTV and
people were just buying CDs by the truckloads,
you know. And so. You know, for us, I feel really
fortunate and we, you know, we had to really
work those couple years to get any attention
out of our label. But once we got it, you know,
it was kind of like, yeah, if you got an MTV,
you got on the radio, you know, you were going
to sell a lot of records, you know, so. You're
Aaron, you're you're absolutely right. I I have
this argument all the time with friends and family
where I say, you know. Look, my parents always
told me the 60s and 70s was the best for music.
Everyone has their point of view, but I'm telling
you, I said that growing up, I think the 90s
was the absolute best decade for music because
every genre was in its peak. Rock, I mean, even
in pop, you had Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey.
In country, you had Garth Brooks. I just feel
like... The biggest names you can think of are
all... And I preach it, and then people go, well,
that's because you were a 90s kid. And I go,
no, but I'm telling you, if you listen... I mean,
I love the 60s and 70s. 70s stuff. But for me,
I just and in speaking of some of that, as we
as we pull it back to your tour here, you're
actually on tour with another one of my most
favorite 90s. Yeah, it's a blues traveler and
the Jim blossoms. You guys are on tour with them
now. I saw Okay, okay, yeah, and I didn't realize
that John John popper but before you before spin
doctors were became spin doctors They I forget
the name of the band. I got it here somewhere,
but they You guys had yeah. Yeah, the trucking
company you guys go way back with John John popper
That's awesome. John popper was in in in the
band. They were called the trucking company.
He went to high school in Princeton with He played
the Utica Brewery. Many years ago and it was
on my birthday and if it's the only reason one
of the reasons I loved to that show so much as
a friend bought me tickets for my birthday and
What a great show that I mean to have all three
of you on on one ticket is gonna be a in awesome
The last show I ever played with with my band
we my keyboard player and I opened for John popper
Wow in Ithaca and it was he's he's an amazing
guy. I mean Yeah, just amazing John is one of
the first guys I met in New York because you
know spin doctors all met at the new school Sorry,
hello spin doctors all met at the new school
and and the guys from blue a lot of the guys
from blues Traveler were going there too and
the very first day of school They threw a bunch
of musicians on stage and the auditorium just
to play and I'm there, you know, I'm on the drums,
and I look to my left and there's this guy, this
big guy with the harmonica, just playing like,
I never heard anybody play a harmonica like that.
Unbelievable. I was like, who the hell is this
guy? Right. And then, you know, and then it turned
out that, like, him and Chris grew up together,
and, you know, and Eric knew him, and they had
that band, The Truckin' Company. So once The
Spin Doctors formed, our very first gig, was
at a fraternity house in Columbia University
called Delta Phi. Heck yeah. And then who's there
to my left again? John Popper. He played it.
He played our first gig with us. And he's always
been like an honorary member of the band. For
sure. He always sits in with us. We have a really
great history with those guys. So to go out on
the road with them this summer is going to be
so much fun. And Jim Blossom's too. We toured
together back in 94. You know, we've done a lot
of shows. So it's I think it's going to be a
really good old pals. You got any crazy stories
that you guys are going to kind of reminisce
about? Hey, you guys remember in 94 when we were
here and we burned a hotel room down or something?
You got any crazy stories like that from those?
Yeah, but I can't tell them anything. That's
the right answer. Statue of limitations, I think.
And that's, correct me if I'm wrong, Aaron, but
that's the show. You guys have got a real special
sort of meet and greet opportunity happening
too, right? Like a VIP package for folks? Yeah,
we're doing like that VIP thing You can come
back and meet the band. I think you get like
some I don't know exactly what it I think you
got like a sign I actually can tell you you get
it if you are going to see spin doctors this
Well, tomorrow night, April 18th and Saturday
night, April 19th. Is the VIP for this weekend
or for the whole tour? Seneca Niagara Resort
and Casino. You are going to get, if you do the
VIP meet and greet package on the summer tour,
it includes concert ticket, meet and greet, photo
op, sign poster, commemorative VIP laminate.
They're gonna make Aaron work hard for this they
are gonna make him very hard and a bowl full
of chili. No The album is a face full of cake
available for purchase at spin doctors comm and
of course on all Streaming platforms now. I gotta
ask you before we get you out of here now you
recorded this in Asbury Park, New Jersey with
Jack Daly, who is from Troy, New York, by the
way, fun fact. And all these New Yorkers. This
guy worked with Rob Thomas, Beyonce, Joss Stone,
Fiverr Fighting, Avril Lavigne, Lenny Kravitz.
He is also your bass player. So what was that
like in the creative process to have a member
of the band also kind of produce it? How do you
navigate that? Jack didn't produce it, but we
did it at his studio. OK, OK. He's also a great
producer, but he Jack. He has a recording studio
called Doug Deep Productions in Asbury Park,
and we went to his studio and recorded it. But
we had a guy named Roman Clune engineer and mix
it, and we basically self -produced the record.
I mean, all four of us basically produced the
record together. We didn't have an outside producer
on this one. It's so great that you can do that.
That can go either way, you know, and again,
the vibes were just right. You know, one of the...
That's awesome, man. One of the things that impresses
me about you, you have a great solo career as
well. And you have an instrumental record called
Catskills Cry, as well as a bunch of other records.
So you're brilliant as obviously the drummer
of Spin Doctors, but you have a great solo career.
But I've also read you have produced over 200
albums. I don't know if that's a typo or if that's
true. I've played on over 200. I've done a lot
of producing as well. That's amazing. And on
top of it, there was a time in the band while
members were kind of interchanging, where you
did the bass lines on one of the records. Why
is it that drummers always seem to be able to
just pick up any other instrument and play it?
It's always the drummer. How many instruments
can you play? I mean, I have a kind of an answer
for that, I think. One of the most important
things about any music, I mean, you guys are
musicians, is time, having a good feel and a
good groove over like technical abilities or
harmonic knowledge. And I think, as a drummer,
I'm able to pick up another instrument and just...
play it played in time, you know, sure. That's
not the first step of a lot of things. So, you
know, I've always sort of I've studied music
for a long time. I've studied music theory and
I've I've never really taken guitar lessons,
but I've played guitar for a long time. And so
I can get around, OK, on other instruments. You
know, it makes sense. You know, Dave Grohl has
always said that he was able. To play guitar
faster because he said he would play it like
his drums the strumming pattern Exactly. I mean
think about it. It's it's all like so much of
it is rhythm and time, you know and uh, and you
know, i'm always telling other musicians like,
you know guitar players and whatever you're doing
centers too. It's like, you know, the time is
is really just In some ways the most important
thing, you know sure I think that's why drummers,
you see often drummers playing other instruments
quite well. It's true. I'm telling you, every
time I meet somebody who's like, oh yeah, I play
guitar, I play bass, I play this, I play drums.
And it's like these drummers, man, they just
get it. Master of so many things. Aaron, it's
been an absolute pleasure to have you join Good
News York. Thank you so much for your time. We
hope you have a phenomenal show up there at the
casino this weekend. Yeah, let me let me. We
know it's going to be a blast. Let me plug it
again. Is spin doctors are gonna be playing tomorrow
night April 18th and Saturday April 19th at the
Seneca Niagara Resort and Casino in Niagara Falls,
New York Promoting face full of cake their brand
new album. It's fantastic You can look for them
this summer as well with blues traveler in the
gym blossoms and for the first time ever awesome
They got a VIP meet -and -greet package if nothing
else go for the nostalgia I mean, just what a
lineup. And listen, as you mentioned, that's,
you know, this period of time, these artists
are some of the best in all of music. So any
time that you can see high quality. Live music.
I I'm a big advocate for that. So all these bands
really sound great It's not like it's certainly
a lot of nostalgia there But like it's not like
we're out just trying to collect a check, you
know We're really playing at our best, you know
And I can say that for all three bands on this
tour now and we you know we can see that with
things like this new album like Mike's and we've
we've been kind of playing it to prepare a little
bit and We can see that and it's cool that you
still have that passion for it. You know, you're
not just showing up because it's It's the job.
It's what I got to do to pay the rent. You know,
you still have that love for what's crazy is
there's so many bands out there. I went and saw
Cinderella years ago, like, I don't know, 10
years ago on ice. No, not the not the princess,
the band. Oh, they were unbelievable. And and
and the Tom Key for the guitar player was just
like playing. I didn't know he could play that
well. And then I realized in music. Obviously,
the longer you play, the better you get. Some
of these bands have been playing for, yeah, but
some of these bands, you don't realize, you're
like, oh, right, they've been touring for 30,
40 years, and they're better than they were.
You know, people always say back in their prime,
it's like, no, their prime is now. You know,
it's true. You know, I think even going back
to like when we came out of the 90s, I mean,
think about it. Rock and roll didn't become a
big thing until the 60s, really, you know? So
back then, it was like, oh, if you're over 30,
you're over the year old, man. But now the music's
growing up. I mean, you got Mick Jagger kicking
ass at 81 or whatever. So it's like jazz or blues.
Nobody ever said, like, you get too old playing
that. And I think rock has grown up. We've all
grown up with rock and roll. Absolutely. And
it's not about the age anymore. And like you
said, man, you're right. You see some of these
bands, you think, ah, and they sound better than
ever. Ever. They've just been playing together
so long. I mean, it makes sense. Yeah, absolutely.
It does. Then there's also sometimes you do see
bad that it's just like, wow. Well, yeah, some
you go out. Time to hang it up. Hang it up, pal.
But Aaron, thank you again so much for your time.
And we look forward to. Yeah. Aaron comas of
the spin doctor spin doctors dot com. Go see
him at Seneca, Niagara Resort and Casino. tomorrow
and Saturday. Hey, man. Thank you so much. Really
appreciate you guys. Yeah. Take care. How about
this? How about this? Bill's Cowboys Super Bowl.
Oh, I don't know if I can handle that again.
He might. I don't know if I can handle to get
a medication. I don't think you'll have to because
the Cowboys won't be there. Yeah. Well, good
luck. Yeah. Well, good talking here. All right.
Thank you so much.