WEBVTT 00:00:09.160 --> 00:00:11.800 Hey, guys, welcome to Good News York. This is 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:14.980 a super special episode. I'm very excited because 00:00:14.980 --> 00:00:18.739 this is in hats off to our man, Mike, our super 00:00:18.739 --> 00:00:21.039 producer here. I don't know about that. This 00:00:21.039 --> 00:00:23.420 is a phenomenal get. We got an incredible guest. 00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:29.239 I am I am so excited as a as a 90s kid, you know, 00:00:29.460 --> 00:00:34.740 and a musician. This is a band from the 90s and 00:00:34.740 --> 00:00:39.929 the drummer. Mr. Aaron comas is joining us willfully. 00:00:40.509 --> 00:00:43.189 I'm not even talking we like we begged Yeah I 00:00:43.189 --> 00:00:45.609 asked if the if any of the band could do an interview 00:00:45.609 --> 00:00:47.469 and they got back to me and said Aaron would 00:00:47.469 --> 00:00:50.310 like to do this interview which I Made our day. 00:00:50.310 --> 00:00:54.509 Welcome to Good News York, Aaron. We are You 00:00:54.509 --> 00:00:56.990 as well Aaron and by the way, I don't know if 00:00:56.990 --> 00:00:59.450 I even mentioned my name is Matt by the way I 00:00:59.450 --> 00:01:01.869 know you've been interacting with Mike a little 00:01:01.869 --> 00:01:04.829 bit but We're really excited to have you and, 00:01:04.890 --> 00:01:06.370 you know, we're going to talk about a few things, 00:01:06.390 --> 00:01:09.370 including your tour. You got a new album. And 00:01:09.370 --> 00:01:11.890 of course, you've been an absolute rock star 00:01:11.890 --> 00:01:13.870 for as long as we can all remember. And we're 00:01:13.870 --> 00:01:15.129 going to want to hear some stories about that. 00:01:15.390 --> 00:01:17.549 But before we get to the music, I just I want 00:01:17.549 --> 00:01:19.790 to know a little bit about Aaron, like who are 00:01:19.790 --> 00:01:22.310 you just as a human? What are you into aside 00:01:22.310 --> 00:01:25.489 from the stuff that we know you for? Well, you 00:01:25.489 --> 00:01:27.430 know, let's say I've been in New York City and 00:01:27.430 --> 00:01:29.950 moved here in 1988. I'm actually in Buffalo right 00:01:29.950 --> 00:01:32.030 now because we're playing here tomorrow. But 00:01:32.030 --> 00:01:35.849 I grew up in Dallas, Texas. So I spent like my 00:01:35.849 --> 00:01:38.109 high school years in Dallas. So I'm a long time. 00:01:38.349 --> 00:01:40.109 I probably shouldn't say this if this is like 00:01:40.109 --> 00:01:42.230 Aaron in the Buffalo area. But I'm a long time 00:01:42.230 --> 00:01:45.049 Dallas Cowboys fan. I'm a die hard Bills fan, 00:01:45.209 --> 00:01:47.049 Aaron. Come on. They'll give you a pass for the 00:01:47.049 --> 00:01:48.569 day. But you know, I got to tell you, I'm rooting 00:01:48.569 --> 00:01:50.430 for the I'm always rooting for the Bills now 00:01:50.430 --> 00:01:52.969 because it's a great team and they just seem 00:01:52.969 --> 00:01:55.969 to get screwed over every time. Aaron, it is 00:01:55.969 --> 00:02:00.709 it is at this point. In my lifetime it is beyond. 00:02:00.709 --> 00:02:03.370 I mean, it's like this this franchise is cursed 00:02:03.370 --> 00:02:05.269 I'm not sure I believe in curses, but I don't 00:02:05.269 --> 00:02:08.009 know how they don't just lose They find ways 00:02:08.009 --> 00:02:11.150 to lose in these epic fashions that they're almost 00:02:11.150 --> 00:02:13.310 impressive, you know, I mean what happy I just 00:02:13.310 --> 00:02:15.569 last year What was it was that crazy game? Oh, 00:02:15.569 --> 00:02:21.830 please which one? There was wide, right? Well, 00:02:21.969 --> 00:02:24.949 we I'm happy about my Cowboys wins in the 90s, 00:02:24.949 --> 00:02:28.139 but you know, it's been it's been a long 25 years 00:02:28.139 --> 00:02:30.360 since we've done anything they've been they've 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:33.620 been very dormant and what i mean by that is 00:02:33.620 --> 00:02:37.289 in the off season They're just not, remember 00:02:37.289 --> 00:02:40.650 the days of Dion and all these big stars and 00:02:40.650 --> 00:02:43.389 it gets to free agency and it's like the cowboys 00:02:43.389 --> 00:02:46.389 are just doing nothing. I don't understand. I 00:02:46.389 --> 00:02:48.789 don't get it. Listen, you know how it is. You 00:02:48.789 --> 00:02:51.590 grew up with the team as a child. I'm old enough 00:02:51.590 --> 00:02:53.750 to have been around in the Roger Stalbach era 00:02:53.750 --> 00:02:57.469 and then in the 90s, Tom Landraven, remember 00:02:57.469 --> 00:03:00.669 that. Like you know I stick with my team, but 00:03:00.669 --> 00:03:03.030 I gotta tell you man It's it's getting harder 00:03:03.030 --> 00:03:05.370 and harder, and if it wasn't from Dallas. I because 00:03:05.370 --> 00:03:07.150 there's a lot of things I don't like about the 00:03:07.150 --> 00:03:10.270 Cowboys Yeah, I'll be honest with I stick with 00:03:10.270 --> 00:03:12.969 them. Well you should stick with them. Are you 00:03:12.969 --> 00:03:15.830 in the Jerry Jones? I don't want to get you in 00:03:15.830 --> 00:03:17.770 trouble. Are you in the Jerry Jones needs to 00:03:17.770 --> 00:03:22.110 go camp or Absolutely good me too. I think pretty 00:03:22.110 --> 00:03:25.689 much everybody is in Dallas now He's right come 00:03:25.689 --> 00:03:28.520 on, but go ahead. Sorry What's he done in the 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:30.539 last 30 years? I mean, he's made millions of 00:03:30.539 --> 00:03:33.240 billions of dollars. But like you said, I mean, 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:35.620 he has these opportunities to get to do things. 00:03:35.620 --> 00:03:38.080 And it's just what is he doing? He should have 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:41.259 totally gotten Dion man to coach. Yeah, I thought 00:03:41.259 --> 00:03:43.500 that's exactly what was going to happen. But, 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:45.259 you know, the thing with Jerry Jones is he's 00:03:45.259 --> 00:03:47.360 riding off of, you know, he came in with a bang, 00:03:47.699 --> 00:03:49.900 brings in this coach from Arkansas. Nobody knows 00:03:49.900 --> 00:03:52.319 why you're bringing in this Jimmy Johnson. And 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:55.219 they win and they win big. And so because of 00:03:55.219 --> 00:03:57.539 that. Because of that, I think is the only reason 00:03:57.539 --> 00:03:59.180 why he's been able, you know, they've been able 00:03:59.180 --> 00:04:01.800 to hang on because they just haven't done much 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:06.020 since. They got that name brand and they make 00:04:06.020 --> 00:04:08.219 all that money. That's it. I mean, what? They 00:04:08.219 --> 00:04:10.360 still like the I think the richest sports team 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:12.659 in the world. They I think they are still I think 00:04:12.659 --> 00:04:14.500 they surpassed once they built a new stadium. 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:16.620 I think they're worth surpass the Yankees, which 00:04:16.620 --> 00:04:19.160 is like wild. Wow. It's pretty wild. It is wild. 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:20.959 Considering they haven't been in a Super Bowl 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:23.879 in 30 years. I know. I look I'm from the camp 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:27.079 of owners should own coaches should coach players 00:04:27.079 --> 00:04:29.839 play. And I think if Jerry relinquishes that 00:04:29.839 --> 00:04:32.240 that that stronghold over the whole organization, 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:35.060 I think everyone benefits from it. I agree. Well, 00:04:35.139 --> 00:04:37.000 just just so you know unless the cowboys are 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:39.399 playing the bills. I do root for the bills 100 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:42.139 % You know what you guys you guys deserve a Super 00:04:42.139 --> 00:04:45.399 Bowl man. You're gonna get me all choked up over 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:47.339 here I wish I can say the same. I don't always 00:04:47.339 --> 00:04:49.740 root for the Cowboys. I feel bad I wish I could 00:04:49.740 --> 00:04:56.660 return the favor. So maybe I will know you shouldn't 00:04:56.660 --> 00:04:59.100 Two times in a row in the Super Bowl was enough 00:04:59.590 --> 00:05:02.589 What a team that was anyway, we turned into a 00:05:02.589 --> 00:05:04.610 sports show. This is great. Yeah, it's my wheelhouse. 00:05:04.610 --> 00:05:09.110 I'm in music sports Aaron you said you've been 00:05:09.110 --> 00:05:12.310 in New York since the late 80s. What you know, 00:05:12.310 --> 00:05:14.350 our show is good news York So one of the things 00:05:14.350 --> 00:05:16.810 that we really like to promote is just the things 00:05:16.810 --> 00:05:19.509 that are awesome about our state and all over 00:05:19.509 --> 00:05:21.350 the place Yeah, if you could just real quick, 00:05:21.389 --> 00:05:23.410 what are one of the reasons that you've kind 00:05:23.410 --> 00:05:25.129 of stuck around? What what do you like about? 00:05:25.389 --> 00:05:28.269 the empire state i i love new york i mean i when 00:05:28.269 --> 00:05:30.490 i was younger i always knew i wanted to be a 00:05:30.490 --> 00:05:33.529 professional musician so i kind of got into my 00:05:33.529 --> 00:05:35.110 head from an early age that i was either going 00:05:35.110 --> 00:05:37.589 to move to new york city or to los angeles sure 00:05:37.589 --> 00:05:39.310 because those are you know especially at the 00:05:39.310 --> 00:05:41.370 time the big music capital that's where you had 00:05:41.370 --> 00:05:44.160 to be Yeah. You know, all my favorite musicians 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:47.040 lived in one of those two cities. And, you know, 00:05:47.060 --> 00:05:50.180 I visited New York. My dad took me up here, you 00:05:50.180 --> 00:05:52.740 know, looking at colleges. And I just loved it. 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:54.660 Just, you know, a lot of my favorite music came 00:05:54.660 --> 00:05:57.660 from up here. So ultimately, I ended up coming 00:05:57.660 --> 00:05:59.899 up here and going. First, I did a year at Berkeley 00:05:59.899 --> 00:06:02.300 in Boston, and then I moved back to Dallas for 00:06:02.300 --> 00:06:04.560 a year. And when I was at Boston, I would come 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:07.100 visit some friends in New York. So after one 00:06:07.100 --> 00:06:09.100 year back in Dallas, I decided I'm going to move 00:06:09.100 --> 00:06:11.529 to New York. And I went to the new school for 00:06:11.529 --> 00:06:13.350 a couple years, which is where the band met up, 00:06:13.670 --> 00:06:16.730 actually. Wow. But I've been, you know, I've 00:06:16.730 --> 00:06:19.449 seen, you know, I've seen so many people move. 00:06:19.509 --> 00:06:21.769 And I get it. I mean, New York's a it'll suck 00:06:21.769 --> 00:06:24.089 you in, spit you out kind of place. So it's a, 00:06:24.089 --> 00:06:26.730 you know, I definitely, you know, you kind of 00:06:26.730 --> 00:06:28.569 got to get to a certain level, I think, career 00:06:28.569 --> 00:06:30.790 wise to or you're just going to be like roughing 00:06:30.790 --> 00:06:32.529 out your whole life, you know. Yeah. And a lot 00:06:32.529 --> 00:06:34.610 of people a lot of people do because a lot of 00:06:34.610 --> 00:06:36.269 people put up with that just because the city 00:06:36.269 --> 00:06:38.899 is so cool. You know, sure. I mean, I just love 00:06:38.899 --> 00:06:41.639 the people there, and I love all the culture, 00:06:41.860 --> 00:06:44.959 and I'm a big foodie, and I think it's the best 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:46.660 food city in the entire world. And I've been 00:06:46.660 --> 00:06:50.000 all over the world. New York City is great. And 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:52.800 the state, too. I have a place upstate in the 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:55.879 Catskills. Oh, wow. I just love the whole state. 00:06:55.959 --> 00:06:57.560 It's such a beautiful state. I think a lot of 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:00.019 people don't know how beautiful New York State 00:07:00.019 --> 00:07:02.800 is unless you get out of the city. I mean, it's 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:06.060 incredible, man. Yeah. We deal with, you know, 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:08.439 whenever we, when I would travel outside of New 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:10.800 York State, if I said I was from New York, they'd 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:12.839 be like, oh, you're from the city. And then I'd 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:14.769 go down to the city. And anytime I'm visiting 00:07:14.769 --> 00:07:16.750 people in the city, they'd say, where are you 00:07:16.750 --> 00:07:18.490 from? I'd say upstate. And they'd be like, oh, 00:07:19.029 --> 00:07:21.149 like Newburgh or the Catskills. No, no, no. I 00:07:21.149 --> 00:07:23.490 mean, upstate. I don't think I don't think they 00:07:23.490 --> 00:07:25.410 know that there's life up here. I think they 00:07:25.410 --> 00:07:28.129 think it's just woods and animals. I don't know. 00:07:28.310 --> 00:07:31.129 Yeah, in Canada. Everything north of Poughkeepsie 00:07:31.129 --> 00:07:33.350 is Canada. That's right. I mean, it's interesting. 00:07:33.569 --> 00:07:35.370 I mean, I was reading something the other day. 00:07:35.370 --> 00:07:37.250 I think the Buffalo was like one of the most 00:07:37.250 --> 00:07:39.430 desirable places to buy a home right now or something. 00:07:39.689 --> 00:07:42.550 Yeah. This city is really it's really like kind 00:07:42.550 --> 00:07:46.100 of. Turning around a lot. It is it's on the mend 00:07:46.100 --> 00:07:48.459 and so is Syracuse as well this whole region 00:07:48.459 --> 00:07:50.800 really from Syracuse to Buffalo and honestly 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:54.399 Albany even is but It's become which is crazy 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:56.259 because we're been notorious for people leaving 00:07:56.259 --> 00:07:58.439 and now it's exactly the other directions Mike 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:00.639 Ron is it's good to hear because it's funny how 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:03.060 like a lot of these Killer cities, you know, 00:08:03.139 --> 00:08:05.399 like you just mentioned Albany Buffalo Syracuse 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:07.620 Rochester. They never could like kind of even 00:08:07.620 --> 00:08:11.980 get to like Cleveland status. Cleveland's a fucking 00:08:11.980 --> 00:08:16.839 shithole. I'm really happy to see these cities 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:20.160 grow up in a good way. People are moving here. 00:08:20.420 --> 00:08:22.480 It's because they're great. Yeah. Appreciate 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:25.339 that. Yeah. So I think that's a great sort of 00:08:25.339 --> 00:08:27.459 segue into why you're in town, why you're in 00:08:27.459 --> 00:08:31.589 Buffalo currently. You're on tour. And you're 00:08:31.589 --> 00:08:34.549 playing at the casino, if I'm not mistaken, right? 00:08:34.769 --> 00:08:37.710 You guys spin doctors playing at the Seneca Niagara 00:08:37.710 --> 00:08:40.470 Resort and Casino tomorrow night, April 18th 00:08:40.470 --> 00:08:44.490 and Saturday, April 19th. And you are promoting 00:08:44.490 --> 00:08:46.929 your new album, Face Full of Cake, which I checked 00:08:46.929 --> 00:08:49.110 out. I already have my favorite songs off the 00:08:49.110 --> 00:08:53.480 record. This is exciting spin doctors. Are going 00:08:53.480 --> 00:08:55.320 to be performing at the Seneca Niagara Resort 00:08:55.320 --> 00:08:58.519 Casino tomorrow night 4 18 and Saturday 4 19 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:01.419 promoting your new record Faceful of cake and 00:09:01.419 --> 00:09:03.639 I listened to it. I have three favorites off 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:07.139 the record Can I can I ask one question before 00:09:07.139 --> 00:09:10.840 you get into your show detailed research? I just 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:13.899 got to ask how much cake was consumed in the 00:09:13.899 --> 00:09:15.980 making of this record. It's a great to make you 00:09:15.980 --> 00:09:20.559 want to know what we consume a lot of during 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:23.379 the making this record was chili Okay. Oh, I 00:09:23.379 --> 00:09:24.960 love chili. We should we should maybe we should 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:26.740 have caught a face full of chili. There's this 00:09:26.740 --> 00:09:29.059 place by the studio we worked at in Asbury Park 00:09:29.059 --> 00:09:30.799 called Cardinal Provisions and they just made 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:33.039 the best chili. So like every day at around two, 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:35.240 we would reward ourselves after we got to take 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:37.600 a good song we liked and we'd order a bunch of 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:39.820 chili. We literally had chili every day. That's 00:09:39.820 --> 00:09:42.840 wild. That is I could eat chili every day. My 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:45.120 wife thinks it's disgusting. I I love it. And 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:47.860 I'll tell you what a little little tidbit. So 00:09:47.860 --> 00:09:50.799 my hometown, the small town I was from, the people 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:52.820 of our town were known as cake eaters. That's 00:09:52.820 --> 00:09:56.539 true. So, you know, when I just hear, I don't 00:09:56.539 --> 00:09:58.360 know. That's all I can think of is back in the 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:01.340 day being the cake eaters. But anyway, proceed 00:10:01.340 --> 00:10:04.100 with actual questions about the music. I like 00:10:04.100 --> 00:10:07.259 talking about chili. So Faceful of Cake, this 00:10:07.259 --> 00:10:13.940 is your first return since 2013. And the creative 00:10:13.940 --> 00:10:17.659 genesis began after being locked down in COVID. 00:10:18.940 --> 00:10:22.470 And correct. What I love about that is That you 00:10:22.470 --> 00:10:25.529 guys came together and I know this as a musician 00:10:25.529 --> 00:10:27.929 myself and it was almost like it seems like it 00:10:27.929 --> 00:10:31.330 was a fresh start for you and There was no pressure 00:10:31.330 --> 00:10:34.029 and it was almost like that time away from you 00:10:34.029 --> 00:10:37.649 guys It gave you it reinvigorated you and and 00:10:37.649 --> 00:10:40.169 and to me like this is an example of what I talked 00:10:40.169 --> 00:10:42.230 about With people during the pandemic, which 00:10:42.230 --> 00:10:44.789 was like there was a lot of bad during the pandemic 00:10:44.970 --> 00:10:47.309 but there was a lot of good that came from the 00:10:47.309 --> 00:10:49.870 pandemic too. And this is what I, I feel like 00:10:49.870 --> 00:10:53.570 this is an example. Am I right? Yeah. I mean, 00:10:53.629 --> 00:10:55.750 you know, we were, we've been talking about making 00:10:55.750 --> 00:10:57.870 a record for a while because it had been a long 00:10:57.870 --> 00:11:00.789 time and sort of during the lockdown, we sort 00:11:00.789 --> 00:11:03.110 of started talking about, well, let's, you know, 00:11:03.190 --> 00:11:04.769 once this thing blows over a little bit, let's 00:11:04.769 --> 00:11:06.649 get together and do some writing sessions. Cause 00:11:06.649 --> 00:11:09.070 it's been a while since we... got we always sort 00:11:09.070 --> 00:11:11.289 of break off in different groups and write songs. 00:11:12.149 --> 00:11:14.669 And so finally, after like, you know, the things 00:11:14.669 --> 00:11:16.169 were really bad, everybody started to feel a 00:11:16.169 --> 00:11:19.210 little more comfortable getting out. Eric and 00:11:19.210 --> 00:11:23.379 Chris got together. up at Mike Gordon's house. 00:11:23.379 --> 00:11:25.279 He has a studio up in Vermont. Yeah, from Phish. 00:11:26.259 --> 00:11:28.019 Yeah, so they went up there and met and wrote 00:11:28.019 --> 00:11:31.120 a couple songs. And then me and Chris got together 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:33.220 and wrote some songs. And then me and Eric got 00:11:33.220 --> 00:11:35.919 together. And we just get together in these different 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:39.279 groups. And we did that a few times. And after 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:40.899 like, you know, three or four of those writing 00:11:40.899 --> 00:11:43.340 sessions, we had a nice selection of material. 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:47.000 And we just made some really crappy demos. Like 00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:49.279 a lot of the stuff was just like on our phones. 00:11:49.279 --> 00:11:52.360 Sure. We did a few on my studio, but we weren't 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:53.759 trying to make it good. We were just like, let's 00:11:53.759 --> 00:11:57.759 just get it down. And then finally it came time 00:11:57.759 --> 00:11:59.980 to, we were like, well, let's go in the studio 00:11:59.980 --> 00:12:02.820 and make some like really good demos. And so 00:12:02.820 --> 00:12:05.019 we have a new bass player, Jack Daly, who he's 00:12:05.019 --> 00:12:08.240 got a really great studio in Asbury Park. So 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:12.039 we decided to go down there and just. very chill. 00:12:12.379 --> 00:12:13.980 It was like you said, there was absolutely no 00:12:13.980 --> 00:12:16.799 pressure, no label involved. We weren't even 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:18.980 really thinking of it as a record. We're like, 00:12:19.100 --> 00:12:20.519 let's just go record these songs and see how 00:12:20.519 --> 00:12:23.139 they come out. And I think just because there 00:12:23.139 --> 00:12:25.299 was no pressure, we were just in a really good 00:12:25.299 --> 00:12:26.860 vibe. You know, we hadn't seen each other in 00:12:26.860 --> 00:12:30.179 a while. It just was kind of effortless and the 00:12:30.179 --> 00:12:32.240 songs just everything just came together and 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:34.419 like after about You know three or four days. 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:36.039 We're listening back to a couple songs. We're 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:38.600 like, you know, this is like this is cool I mean, 00:12:38.600 --> 00:12:40.179 I think this might actually be the record, you 00:12:40.179 --> 00:12:42.559 know, forget about the demos, you know And that's 00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:43.980 kind of what happened, you know and two weeks 00:12:43.980 --> 00:12:46.000 later we had we had a record You know one of 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:49.200 my favorite stories about uh that i've read about 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:53.299 during this time Is that you you guys have a 00:12:53.299 --> 00:12:56.179 song on the record? I believe it's is it still 00:12:56.179 --> 00:12:58.860 a gorilla. Is that the right name? Yeah. Yeah. 00:12:59.059 --> 00:13:02.899 Yes, and I totally connect with this I read that 00:13:02.899 --> 00:13:05.600 you had had that piece of music for a long time 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:09.159 and Chris had been writing lyrics and it just 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:12.019 it just wasn't happening and then something happened 00:13:12.019 --> 00:13:14.019 during this process and you guys like wrote it 00:13:14.019 --> 00:13:17.610 in an hour and I get that because I had a band 00:13:17.610 --> 00:13:20.450 and I had a piece of music that I had had for 00:13:20.450 --> 00:13:22.409 years. And then one day my bass player was in 00:13:22.409 --> 00:13:24.710 rehearsal and he was playing something. And I 00:13:24.710 --> 00:13:27.190 said, that almost fits the riff I have. And sure 00:13:27.190 --> 00:13:31.889 enough, it fit and boom, it happened. Isn't that 00:13:31.889 --> 00:13:34.110 just the best feeling when something like that 00:13:34.110 --> 00:13:37.190 comes together? Oh, totally. I had this music 00:13:37.190 --> 00:13:39.960 laying around. I have my own... instrumental 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:42.039 group, sort of jazz, rock, whatever you want 00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:45.059 to call it. And I had this song called Gorilla, 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:47.820 which is this piece of music. And I played it 00:13:47.820 --> 00:13:50.500 in my group. You know, I always saw how, you 00:13:50.500 --> 00:13:52.240 know, for an instrumental track, it just would 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:54.840 really get a good reaction. So I kind of had 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:56.720 it in the back of my mind for years. This might 00:13:56.720 --> 00:13:58.580 be a cool song for the spin doctors, you know. 00:13:58.940 --> 00:14:01.500 And about seven or eight years ago, I went over 00:14:01.500 --> 00:14:03.039 to Chris's house and we were doing a writing 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:05.419 session and nothing really came of it, you know. 00:14:06.340 --> 00:14:09.440 Hello. And nothing came of it. And I think a 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:11.940 lot of it, I think with our band in particular, 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:14.759 with writing, everybody's got to be in the same 00:14:14.759 --> 00:14:17.379 frame of mind. We've had periods through our 00:14:17.379 --> 00:14:19.200 career where we would just spit out songs, it 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:21.639 was effortless. And other times it was kind of 00:14:21.639 --> 00:14:24.559 a struggle. And so that was the end of this song. 00:14:24.659 --> 00:14:26.100 And then when we got, when we started doing these 00:14:26.100 --> 00:14:28.299 other writing sessions, I brought it back in. 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:30.639 And it still was like, out of all the songs, 00:14:30.779 --> 00:14:33.870 every other song that we brought in, it just 00:14:33.870 --> 00:14:35.570 we'd have a song in like an hour it was just 00:14:35.570 --> 00:14:39.789 so effortless you know and um and with this one 00:14:39.789 --> 00:14:41.850 that even when i brought it back it was like 00:14:41.850 --> 00:14:44.429 okay it was it was cool but it wasn't quite there 00:14:45.280 --> 00:14:47.360 And I remember being kind of bummed about it. 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:49.100 I think I got to save this song. I know I can 00:14:49.100 --> 00:14:51.100 save this song, you know, and I came up with 00:14:51.100 --> 00:14:52.539 this other side. I was like, it really needs 00:14:52.539 --> 00:14:55.559 a stronger chorus. So I came up with some chords 00:14:55.559 --> 00:14:58.840 that I thought would be nice for chorus. I sent 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:02.019 him over for Chris and he he came over the next 00:15:02.019 --> 00:15:03.620 day and I figured out how to write with Chris. 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:05.519 I just invite him over for dinner. Yeah. Come 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:08.240 over. We'll write some music to get everything 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:10.679 done. Your wife dinner. Chilly. And I invite 00:15:10.679 --> 00:15:14.129 him over for Chilly Charm. So he came by and 00:15:14.129 --> 00:15:15.970 it just like he said, you know within an hour 00:15:15.970 --> 00:15:18.590 It was just we had it and it was you know It 00:15:18.590 --> 00:15:21.049 was I'm glad that I like kind of like stuck with 00:15:21.049 --> 00:15:22.870 it, you know Because because it was really the 00:15:22.870 --> 00:15:25.049 only song on the record that was sort of troublesome 00:15:25.049 --> 00:15:27.169 and I it ended up being one of the cooler tracks 00:15:27.169 --> 00:15:30.370 You know, yeah, and it's a great track. I uh, 00:15:30.850 --> 00:15:34.250 I have a couple favorites While you're holding 00:15:34.250 --> 00:15:38.399 the moon over me that just makes me want to lay 00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:41.100 on the front lawn on like a summer day and smoke 00:15:41.100 --> 00:15:44.480 a joint. It's phenomenal. OK, thank you. And 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:47.379 then there's a really interesting review. No, 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:49.720 it's great. She stands alone. She's got, you 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:52.039 know, real driving guitars. But the one that 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:55.700 hooked me was the last track. When you get was 00:15:55.700 --> 00:15:58.500 it when you get turmoil on your mind, it's very 00:15:58.500 --> 00:16:01.679 like it's darker, it's bluesier, like a Hendrix 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:05.820 and Black Keys type vibe. OK. And the reason 00:16:05.820 --> 00:16:10.679 I'm bringing this up is You can hear how much, 00:16:11.399 --> 00:16:13.679 you know, just kind of the way you guys have 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:15.779 grown over the years. You can tell that this 00:16:15.779 --> 00:16:18.399 record was done with a different approach creatively 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:20.740 than the other records. And we kind of talked 00:16:20.740 --> 00:16:22.480 about that. It was the whole reuniting after 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:28.320 Covid. But I feel like the sound is it's reflected 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:30.700 on the record that, you know, that that that 00:16:30.700 --> 00:16:33.159 growth and that kind of like, hey, let's just 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:36.120 fucking do this thing. And you can hear it, man. 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:38.639 Well, that's good to hear and like and uh, you 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:42.080 know turmoil in my mind Was a song that eric 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:43.700 and chris wrote that first session when they 00:16:43.700 --> 00:16:46.220 met up at mike's house And that was and it came 00:16:46.220 --> 00:16:48.940 from I think chris just had like a poem It wasn't 00:16:48.940 --> 00:16:51.679 any kind of melody or lyrics And he read it to 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:53.659 eric and eric came up with that that music and 00:16:53.659 --> 00:16:55.740 that riff and they sort of like Put it together 00:16:55.740 --> 00:16:58.220 and um, and then and it's great. It's a really 00:16:58.220 --> 00:17:01.620 cool song And then Moon, Holdin' the Moon, that 00:17:01.620 --> 00:17:03.320 was another one where I invited Chris over for 00:17:03.320 --> 00:17:06.940 dinner. I showed him that music, and again, in 00:17:06.940 --> 00:17:09.960 an hour, he'd have lyrics, and then I cooked 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:12.799 him a nice steak. It's amazing. Aaron, let me 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:16.299 ask you a question about that. As Mike talked 00:17:16.299 --> 00:17:20.480 about the evolution of your music, you're... 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:23.500 had massive hits starting in the early 90s that 00:17:23.500 --> 00:17:26.500 are still in regular rotation on the radio. And 00:17:26.500 --> 00:17:28.859 that's got to be an awesome feeling. Right. But 00:17:28.859 --> 00:17:30.920 one of the things that I'm interested in is your 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:33.119 perspective of having been in the industry so 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:35.400 long. Where do you feel like sort of music in 00:17:35.400 --> 00:17:38.160 general has gone over these these years that 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:40.000 you've been in the industry? And do you like 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:43.359 where it's at today? I mean, I think music is 00:17:43.359 --> 00:17:45.859 as good as good as ever. I mean, there's so much 00:17:45.859 --> 00:17:48.819 I see so much talent, like just from like the 00:17:48.819 --> 00:17:53.420 individual You know musicians and and bands and 00:17:53.420 --> 00:17:55.779 artists and you know, there's so much different 00:17:55.779 --> 00:17:58.599 types of music I feel like I feel like in general 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:01.200 like musicians and music lovers are more open 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:03.440 than they ever were because there's just so much 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:05.400 stuff now and things don't seem to be put in 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:08.220 as much of a box anymore probably because you 00:18:08.220 --> 00:18:11.380 know There's not labels and radio station right 00:18:11.380 --> 00:18:14.559 to put them such a box, you know, and so I think 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:18.259 I think artistically it's in great shape but 00:18:18.259 --> 00:18:20.319 from a business point of view and from from like 00:18:20.319 --> 00:18:24.079 a you know young artist musician songwriter band 00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:26.319 trying to make a living it's really difficult 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:29.400 because Because there's so much out there. It's 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:31.779 like everything's over saturated and you know, 00:18:31.779 --> 00:18:33.940 it's you know, it's just hard I mean, I've always 00:18:33.940 --> 00:18:36.359 believed the cream rises the top but it's harder 00:18:36.359 --> 00:18:38.839 than ever now man because you know Think about 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:41.519 how much, every day, I mean, I forgot the number, 00:18:41.660 --> 00:18:44.000 but the amount of songs that come out every day 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:47.660 is in the thousands. It's just stupid. And back 00:18:47.660 --> 00:18:49.750 when we were growing up, Matt. You know, there 00:18:49.750 --> 00:18:52.549 were only a couple places you went to find new 00:18:52.549 --> 00:18:55.569 music, right? So it would be like MTV. It would 00:18:55.569 --> 00:18:57.829 be the radio. Maybe it would be Rolling Stone 00:18:57.829 --> 00:19:00.250 magazine. And when the Internet came out, it 00:19:00.250 --> 00:19:03.009 wasn't as, you know, hot as it is now. But you 00:19:03.009 --> 00:19:06.750 could find stuff. And now it's the labels and 00:19:06.750 --> 00:19:08.730 society would kind of tell you, hey, this is 00:19:08.730 --> 00:19:11.089 the new hot band. This is the new thing. Now 00:19:11.089 --> 00:19:14.329 people, you know. Betsy from North Carolina can 00:19:14.329 --> 00:19:16.670 find a band and post it on her account and suddenly 00:19:16.670 --> 00:19:18.730 they blow up. I mean, it's yeah, but there's 00:19:18.730 --> 00:19:21.009 so much of it exactly So there's I think this 00:19:21.009 --> 00:19:22.930 is you know, there's a positive side and a negative 00:19:22.930 --> 00:19:25.690 side to it You know, I mean like like you said 00:19:25.690 --> 00:19:28.190 that we were kind of spoon -fed like what what 00:19:28.190 --> 00:19:30.569 to hear in a way But like even with that said 00:19:30.569 --> 00:19:33.710 like think about it like, you know in order to 00:19:33.710 --> 00:19:36.240 make a record You had to get a label, whether 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:37.920 it was an independent label or a major label, 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:39.980 or maybe you had rich parents. But you needed 00:19:39.980 --> 00:19:44.799 a label, really. And people like to say, oh, 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:48.380 it was whatever. But I think the cream rises 00:19:48.380 --> 00:19:51.920 at the top. It's hard to get a label. You had 00:19:51.920 --> 00:19:55.559 to have a good thing going. You had to have a 00:19:55.559 --> 00:19:59.180 good band, good songs. And then for as hard as 00:19:59.180 --> 00:20:02.359 it was, even at that point, to get success, You 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:04.180 know, but there was an easier formula. I mean, 00:20:04.180 --> 00:20:06.400 I think about us, you know, coming out in the 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:08.500 early 90s. I mean, it was really in some ways 00:20:08.500 --> 00:20:10.619 the in a lot of ways, I think it was the peak 00:20:10.619 --> 00:20:12.680 of the music of the record industry because you 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:14.759 had, you know, you had just the CDs were just 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:17.180 coming out. So labels were making so much money 00:20:17.180 --> 00:20:18.980 because everybody was rebuying all their favorite 00:20:18.980 --> 00:20:23.160 records on CD. And, you know, you had MTV and 00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:25.420 people were just buying CDs by the truckloads, 00:20:25.420 --> 00:20:28.130 you know. And so. You know, for us, I feel really 00:20:28.130 --> 00:20:30.009 fortunate and we, you know, we had to really 00:20:30.009 --> 00:20:32.269 work those couple years to get any attention 00:20:32.269 --> 00:20:34.670 out of our label. But once we got it, you know, 00:20:34.670 --> 00:20:36.170 it was kind of like, yeah, if you got an MTV, 00:20:36.309 --> 00:20:37.549 you got on the radio, you know, you were going 00:20:37.549 --> 00:20:39.769 to sell a lot of records, you know, so. You're 00:20:39.769 --> 00:20:43.089 Aaron, you're you're absolutely right. I I have 00:20:43.089 --> 00:20:45.549 this argument all the time with friends and family 00:20:45.549 --> 00:20:48.660 where I say, you know. Look, my parents always 00:20:48.660 --> 00:20:50.839 told me the 60s and 70s was the best for music. 00:20:51.900 --> 00:20:53.759 Everyone has their point of view, but I'm telling 00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:56.660 you, I said that growing up, I think the 90s 00:20:56.660 --> 00:20:58.839 was the absolute best decade for music because 00:20:58.839 --> 00:21:02.839 every genre was in its peak. Rock, I mean, even 00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:04.839 in pop, you had Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey. 00:21:04.980 --> 00:21:07.279 In country, you had Garth Brooks. I just feel 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:09.059 like... The biggest names you can think of are 00:21:09.059 --> 00:21:12.200 all... And I preach it, and then people go, well, 00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:13.680 that's because you were a 90s kid. And I go, 00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:16.099 no, but I'm telling you, if you listen... I mean, 00:21:16.099 --> 00:21:18.549 I love the 60s and 70s. 70s stuff. But for me, 00:21:18.670 --> 00:21:21.710 I just and in speaking of some of that, as we 00:21:21.710 --> 00:21:23.430 as we pull it back to your tour here, you're 00:21:23.430 --> 00:21:26.529 actually on tour with another one of my most 00:21:26.529 --> 00:21:30.750 favorite 90s. Yeah, it's a blues traveler and 00:21:30.750 --> 00:21:32.769 the Jim blossoms. You guys are on tour with them 00:21:32.769 --> 00:21:40.420 now. I saw Okay, okay, yeah, and I didn't realize 00:21:40.420 --> 00:21:43.500 that John John popper but before you before spin 00:21:43.500 --> 00:21:47.180 doctors were became spin doctors They I forget 00:21:47.180 --> 00:21:48.819 the name of the band. I got it here somewhere, 00:21:48.819 --> 00:21:52.339 but they You guys had yeah. Yeah, the trucking 00:21:52.339 --> 00:21:55.220 company you guys go way back with John John popper 00:21:55.220 --> 00:21:57.619 That's awesome. John popper was in in in the 00:21:57.619 --> 00:21:59.200 band. They were called the trucking company. 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:03.490 He went to high school in Princeton with He played 00:22:03.490 --> 00:22:07.460 the Utica Brewery. Many years ago and it was 00:22:07.460 --> 00:22:09.480 on my birthday and if it's the only reason one 00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:11.099 of the reasons I loved to that show so much as 00:22:11.099 --> 00:22:13.380 a friend bought me tickets for my birthday and 00:22:13.380 --> 00:22:16.339 What a great show that I mean to have all three 00:22:16.339 --> 00:22:19.099 of you on on one ticket is gonna be a in awesome 00:22:19.099 --> 00:22:21.140 The last show I ever played with with my band 00:22:21.140 --> 00:22:23.819 we my keyboard player and I opened for John popper 00:22:23.819 --> 00:22:26.019 Wow in Ithaca and it was he's he's an amazing 00:22:26.019 --> 00:22:30.140 guy. I mean Yeah, just amazing John is one of 00:22:30.140 --> 00:22:31.980 the first guys I met in New York because you 00:22:31.980 --> 00:22:35.519 know spin doctors all met at the new school Sorry, 00:22:35.519 --> 00:22:38.059 hello spin doctors all met at the new school 00:22:38.059 --> 00:22:39.680 and and the guys from blue a lot of the guys 00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:41.759 from blues Traveler were going there too and 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:44.059 the very first day of school They threw a bunch 00:22:44.059 --> 00:22:46.259 of musicians on stage and the auditorium just 00:22:46.259 --> 00:22:48.890 to play and I'm there, you know, I'm on the drums, 00:22:49.190 --> 00:22:51.390 and I look to my left and there's this guy, this 00:22:51.390 --> 00:22:53.490 big guy with the harmonica, just playing like, 00:22:53.569 --> 00:22:55.490 I never heard anybody play a harmonica like that. 00:22:55.710 --> 00:22:57.509 Unbelievable. I was like, who the hell is this 00:22:57.509 --> 00:22:59.170 guy? Right. And then, you know, and then it turned 00:22:59.170 --> 00:23:01.150 out that, like, him and Chris grew up together, 00:23:01.529 --> 00:23:03.450 and, you know, and Eric knew him, and they had 00:23:03.450 --> 00:23:05.950 that band, The Truckin' Company. So once The 00:23:05.950 --> 00:23:08.940 Spin Doctors formed, our very first gig, was 00:23:08.940 --> 00:23:11.200 at a fraternity house in Columbia University 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:13.700 called Delta Phi. Heck yeah. And then who's there 00:23:13.700 --> 00:23:15.799 to my left again? John Popper. He played it. 00:23:15.799 --> 00:23:17.819 He played our first gig with us. And he's always 00:23:17.819 --> 00:23:19.880 been like an honorary member of the band. For 00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:23.079 sure. He always sits in with us. We have a really 00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:25.619 great history with those guys. So to go out on 00:23:25.619 --> 00:23:27.400 the road with them this summer is going to be 00:23:27.400 --> 00:23:29.460 so much fun. And Jim Blossom's too. We toured 00:23:29.460 --> 00:23:32.880 together back in 94. You know, we've done a lot 00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:34.619 of shows. So it's I think it's going to be a 00:23:34.619 --> 00:23:38.859 really good old pals. You got any crazy stories 00:23:38.859 --> 00:23:40.359 that you guys are going to kind of reminisce 00:23:40.359 --> 00:23:42.299 about? Hey, you guys remember in 94 when we were 00:23:42.299 --> 00:23:44.259 here and we burned a hotel room down or something? 00:23:44.299 --> 00:23:45.880 You got any crazy stories like that from those? 00:23:45.880 --> 00:23:49.319 Yeah, but I can't tell them anything. That's 00:23:49.319 --> 00:23:51.240 the right answer. Statue of limitations, I think. 00:23:52.019 --> 00:23:54.299 And that's, correct me if I'm wrong, Aaron, but 00:23:54.299 --> 00:23:56.119 that's the show. You guys have got a real special 00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:58.140 sort of meet and greet opportunity happening 00:23:58.140 --> 00:24:02.549 too, right? Like a VIP package for folks? Yeah, 00:24:02.650 --> 00:24:05.410 we're doing like that VIP thing You can come 00:24:05.410 --> 00:24:07.269 back and meet the band. I think you get like 00:24:07.269 --> 00:24:09.329 some I don't know exactly what it I think you 00:24:09.329 --> 00:24:12.450 got like a sign I actually can tell you you get 00:24:12.450 --> 00:24:17.170 it if you are going to see spin doctors this 00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:20.119 Well, tomorrow night, April 18th and Saturday 00:24:20.119 --> 00:24:23.259 night, April 19th. Is the VIP for this weekend 00:24:23.259 --> 00:24:26.200 or for the whole tour? Seneca Niagara Resort 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:29.940 and Casino. You are going to get, if you do the 00:24:29.940 --> 00:24:32.180 VIP meet and greet package on the summer tour, 00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:34.980 it includes concert ticket, meet and greet, photo 00:24:34.980 --> 00:24:37.380 op, sign poster, commemorative VIP laminate. 00:24:38.019 --> 00:24:40.200 They're gonna make Aaron work hard for this they 00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:42.700 are gonna make him very hard and a bowl full 00:24:42.700 --> 00:24:47.200 of chili. No The album is a face full of cake 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:49.940 available for purchase at spin doctors comm and 00:24:49.940 --> 00:24:53.539 of course on all Streaming platforms now. I gotta 00:24:53.539 --> 00:24:56.160 ask you before we get you out of here now you 00:24:56.930 --> 00:24:59.509 recorded this in Asbury Park, New Jersey with 00:24:59.509 --> 00:25:02.789 Jack Daly, who is from Troy, New York, by the 00:25:02.789 --> 00:25:05.750 way, fun fact. And all these New Yorkers. This 00:25:05.750 --> 00:25:08.410 guy worked with Rob Thomas, Beyonce, Joss Stone, 00:25:08.670 --> 00:25:10.730 Fiverr Fighting, Avril Lavigne, Lenny Kravitz. 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:16.539 He is also your bass player. So what was that 00:25:16.539 --> 00:25:19.460 like in the creative process to have a member 00:25:19.460 --> 00:25:22.579 of the band also kind of produce it? How do you 00:25:22.579 --> 00:25:25.700 navigate that? Jack didn't produce it, but we 00:25:25.700 --> 00:25:29.000 did it at his studio. OK, OK. He's also a great 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:32.059 producer, but he Jack. He has a recording studio 00:25:32.059 --> 00:25:34.220 called Doug Deep Productions in Asbury Park, 00:25:34.500 --> 00:25:36.440 and we went to his studio and recorded it. But 00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:39.259 we had a guy named Roman Clune engineer and mix 00:25:39.259 --> 00:25:41.519 it, and we basically self -produced the record. 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:43.579 I mean, all four of us basically produced the 00:25:43.579 --> 00:25:45.859 record together. We didn't have an outside producer 00:25:45.859 --> 00:25:47.779 on this one. It's so great that you can do that. 00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:49.559 That can go either way, you know, and again, 00:25:50.619 --> 00:25:52.980 the vibes were just right. You know, one of the... 00:25:52.980 --> 00:25:55.599 That's awesome, man. One of the things that impresses 00:25:55.599 --> 00:25:58.799 me about you, you have a great solo career as 00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:04.069 well. And you have an instrumental record called 00:26:04.069 --> 00:26:07.529 Catskills Cry, as well as a bunch of other records. 00:26:08.869 --> 00:26:11.549 So you're brilliant as obviously the drummer 00:26:11.549 --> 00:26:14.170 of Spin Doctors, but you have a great solo career. 00:26:14.549 --> 00:26:17.170 But I've also read you have produced over 200 00:26:17.170 --> 00:26:20.299 albums. I don't know if that's a typo or if that's 00:26:20.299 --> 00:26:25.200 true. I've played on over 200. I've done a lot 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:27.740 of producing as well. That's amazing. And on 00:26:27.740 --> 00:26:29.940 top of it, there was a time in the band while 00:26:29.940 --> 00:26:32.319 members were kind of interchanging, where you 00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:34.720 did the bass lines on one of the records. Why 00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:38.019 is it that drummers always seem to be able to 00:26:38.019 --> 00:26:39.900 just pick up any other instrument and play it? 00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:43.339 It's always the drummer. How many instruments 00:26:43.339 --> 00:26:46.480 can you play? I mean, I have a kind of an answer 00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:50.440 for that, I think. One of the most important 00:26:50.440 --> 00:26:52.460 things about any music, I mean, you guys are 00:26:52.460 --> 00:26:55.059 musicians, is time, having a good feel and a 00:26:55.059 --> 00:26:58.319 good groove over like technical abilities or 00:26:58.319 --> 00:27:00.599 harmonic knowledge. And I think, as a drummer, 00:27:01.700 --> 00:27:04.599 I'm able to pick up another instrument and just... 00:27:05.049 --> 00:27:07.549 play it played in time, you know, sure. That's 00:27:07.549 --> 00:27:09.990 not the first step of a lot of things. So, you 00:27:09.990 --> 00:27:12.569 know, I've always sort of I've studied music 00:27:12.569 --> 00:27:15.009 for a long time. I've studied music theory and 00:27:15.009 --> 00:27:17.509 I've I've never really taken guitar lessons, 00:27:17.549 --> 00:27:21.670 but I've played guitar for a long time. And so 00:27:21.670 --> 00:27:24.089 I can get around, OK, on other instruments. You 00:27:24.089 --> 00:27:27.009 know, it makes sense. You know, Dave Grohl has 00:27:27.009 --> 00:27:30.019 always said that he was able. To play guitar 00:27:30.019 --> 00:27:31.799 faster because he said he would play it like 00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:34.660 his drums the strumming pattern Exactly. I mean 00:27:34.660 --> 00:27:36.660 think about it. It's it's all like so much of 00:27:36.660 --> 00:27:40.099 it is rhythm and time, you know and uh, and you 00:27:40.099 --> 00:27:42.539 know, i'm always telling other musicians like, 00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:45.160 you know guitar players and whatever you're doing 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.160 centers too. It's like, you know, the time is 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:51.279 is really just In some ways the most important 00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:53.519 thing, you know sure I think that's why drummers, 00:27:53.700 --> 00:27:55.160 you see often drummers playing other instruments 00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:58.299 quite well. It's true. I'm telling you, every 00:27:58.299 --> 00:28:01.079 time I meet somebody who's like, oh yeah, I play 00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:03.859 guitar, I play bass, I play this, I play drums. 00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:06.140 And it's like these drummers, man, they just 00:28:06.140 --> 00:28:10.400 get it. Master of so many things. Aaron, it's 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:12.819 been an absolute pleasure to have you join Good 00:28:12.819 --> 00:28:14.759 News York. Thank you so much for your time. We 00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:17.500 hope you have a phenomenal show up there at the 00:28:17.500 --> 00:28:19.880 casino this weekend. Yeah, let me let me. We 00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:21.660 know it's going to be a blast. Let me plug it 00:28:21.660 --> 00:28:25.279 again. Is spin doctors are gonna be playing tomorrow 00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:28.259 night April 18th and Saturday April 19th at the 00:28:28.259 --> 00:28:31.180 Seneca Niagara Resort and Casino in Niagara Falls, 00:28:31.299 --> 00:28:33.940 New York Promoting face full of cake their brand 00:28:33.940 --> 00:28:37.099 new album. It's fantastic You can look for them 00:28:37.099 --> 00:28:38.900 this summer as well with blues traveler in the 00:28:38.900 --> 00:28:41.200 gym blossoms and for the first time ever awesome 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:44.339 They got a VIP meet -and -greet package if nothing 00:28:44.339 --> 00:28:49.029 else go for the nostalgia I mean, just what a 00:28:49.029 --> 00:28:51.690 lineup. And listen, as you mentioned, that's, 00:28:51.690 --> 00:28:54.289 you know, this period of time, these artists 00:28:54.289 --> 00:28:56.750 are some of the best in all of music. So any 00:28:56.750 --> 00:29:00.279 time that you can see high quality. Live music. 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:04.819 I I'm a big advocate for that. So all these bands 00:29:04.819 --> 00:29:06.940 really sound great It's not like it's certainly 00:29:06.940 --> 00:29:09.480 a lot of nostalgia there But like it's not like 00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:11.740 we're out just trying to collect a check, you 00:29:11.740 --> 00:29:14.519 know We're really playing at our best, you know 00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:16.299 And I can say that for all three bands on this 00:29:16.299 --> 00:29:18.519 tour now and we you know we can see that with 00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:20.400 things like this new album like Mike's and we've 00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:22.619 we've been kind of playing it to prepare a little 00:29:22.619 --> 00:29:25.559 bit and We can see that and it's cool that you 00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:27.400 still have that passion for it. You know, you're 00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:29.460 not just showing up because it's It's the job. 00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:31.079 It's what I got to do to pay the rent. You know, 00:29:31.339 --> 00:29:33.319 you still have that love for what's crazy is 00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:35.740 there's so many bands out there. I went and saw 00:29:35.740 --> 00:29:38.240 Cinderella years ago, like, I don't know, 10 00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:41.220 years ago on ice. No, not the not the princess, 00:29:41.259 --> 00:29:46.279 the band. Oh, they were unbelievable. And and 00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:49.299 and the Tom Key for the guitar player was just 00:29:49.299 --> 00:29:51.319 like playing. I didn't know he could play that 00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:54.910 well. And then I realized in music. Obviously, 00:29:54.950 --> 00:29:57.309 the longer you play, the better you get. Some 00:29:57.309 --> 00:29:59.490 of these bands have been playing for, yeah, but 00:29:59.490 --> 00:30:01.150 some of these bands, you don't realize, you're 00:30:01.150 --> 00:30:02.809 like, oh, right, they've been touring for 30, 00:30:02.809 --> 00:30:05.569 40 years, and they're better than they were. 00:30:05.670 --> 00:30:07.250 You know, people always say back in their prime, 00:30:07.309 --> 00:30:09.970 it's like, no, their prime is now. You know, 00:30:09.970 --> 00:30:12.269 it's true. You know, I think even going back 00:30:12.269 --> 00:30:13.809 to like when we came out of the 90s, I mean, 00:30:13.829 --> 00:30:16.029 think about it. Rock and roll didn't become a 00:30:16.029 --> 00:30:18.309 big thing until the 60s, really, you know? So 00:30:18.309 --> 00:30:21.029 back then, it was like, oh, if you're over 30, 00:30:21.289 --> 00:30:24.799 you're over the year old, man. But now the music's 00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:26.539 growing up. I mean, you got Mick Jagger kicking 00:30:26.539 --> 00:30:29.940 ass at 81 or whatever. So it's like jazz or blues. 00:30:30.140 --> 00:30:32.420 Nobody ever said, like, you get too old playing 00:30:32.420 --> 00:30:34.119 that. And I think rock has grown up. We've all 00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:35.880 grown up with rock and roll. Absolutely. And 00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:37.799 it's not about the age anymore. And like you 00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:39.359 said, man, you're right. You see some of these 00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:42.480 bands, you think, ah, and they sound better than 00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:44.960 ever. Ever. They've just been playing together 00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:47.859 so long. I mean, it makes sense. Yeah, absolutely. 00:30:47.859 --> 00:30:50.789 It does. Then there's also sometimes you do see 00:30:50.789 --> 00:30:52.730 bad that it's just like, wow. Well, yeah, some 00:30:52.730 --> 00:30:56.369 you go out. Time to hang it up. Hang it up, pal. 00:30:57.849 --> 00:31:00.109 But Aaron, thank you again so much for your time. 00:31:00.509 --> 00:31:04.509 And we look forward to. Yeah. Aaron comas of 00:31:04.509 --> 00:31:07.109 the spin doctor spin doctors dot com. Go see 00:31:07.109 --> 00:31:10.029 him at Seneca, Niagara Resort and Casino. tomorrow 00:31:10.029 --> 00:31:12.769 and Saturday. Hey, man. Thank you so much. Really 00:31:12.769 --> 00:31:16.609 appreciate you guys. Yeah. Take care. How about 00:31:16.609 --> 00:31:19.029 this? How about this? Bill's Cowboys Super Bowl. 00:31:19.369 --> 00:31:21.950 Oh, I don't know if I can handle that again. 00:31:21.950 --> 00:31:25.150 He might. I don't know if I can handle to get 00:31:25.150 --> 00:31:27.170 a medication. I don't think you'll have to because 00:31:27.170 --> 00:31:31.069 the Cowboys won't be there. Yeah. Well, good 00:31:31.069 --> 00:31:33.670 luck. Yeah. Well, good talking here. All right. 00:31:33.670 --> 00:31:34.630 Thank you so much.