WEBVTT 00:00:09.289 --> 00:00:11.630 Hey guys, welcome to Good News York. We've got 00:00:11.630 --> 00:00:15.210 a special, very special episode, special guest. 00:00:15.669 --> 00:00:19.850 Mike's earning his producer pay here. Yeah, finally. 00:00:20.449 --> 00:00:22.629 I think this might be one of the coolest things 00:00:22.629 --> 00:00:25.170 we've ever seen. And it's also a unique thing. 00:00:25.230 --> 00:00:26.570 We're going to do something a little different. 00:00:26.690 --> 00:00:31.120 Yeah. We're gonna do this At eyes at like a no 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:32.700 -face interview. I guess is that that is that 00:00:32.700 --> 00:00:35.659 the term for that? So we have a special guest 00:00:35.659 --> 00:00:38.420 on us today that we're gonna introduce But this 00:00:38.420 --> 00:00:41.340 guest is unlike any other guest for two reasons 00:00:41.340 --> 00:00:44.859 one when you find out what he does It's just 00:00:44.859 --> 00:00:48.159 fantastic and two it's a no -face account and 00:00:48.159 --> 00:00:51.219 before I talked to him I didn't I didn't know 00:00:51.219 --> 00:00:53.960 what a note. I mean I figured it out. As soon 00:00:53.960 --> 00:00:56.399 as he said it, I figured out what it meant. It's 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:56.920 not a complicated thing. It's not a complicated 00:00:56.920 --> 00:00:59.740 thing. A no -face account means it's a social 00:00:59.740 --> 00:01:01.020 media account where you don't show your face. 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:06.500 But we've never had anyone on that has a no -face 00:01:06.500 --> 00:01:09.659 account. So Matt came up with a brilliant idea. 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:11.980 What are we doing? We're gonna we're gonna do 00:01:11.980 --> 00:01:13.359 the same thing. We're gonna we're gonna do this 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:15.379 as a no -face interview, you know So we're gonna 00:01:15.379 --> 00:01:17.579 turn around and without further ado. We're making 00:01:17.579 --> 00:01:19.620 our coolest guest on the planet Wait, this is 00:01:19.620 --> 00:01:21.799 yeah, this is your you're losing your producer 00:01:21.799 --> 00:01:27.239 We've got David from David's miniatures yes, 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:31.180 and If you haven't seen this gentleman's work 00:01:31.180 --> 00:01:34.200 It's it's mind -blowing feel free to pull it 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:36.920 up as we're we're talking or don't pay attention 00:01:36.920 --> 00:01:40.150 to this blow it up afterwards, but This is so 00:01:40.150 --> 00:01:43.390 cool. So welcome to Good News York, David. Thank 00:01:43.390 --> 00:01:47.030 you. Thank you, guys. Yeah, David. Here's here's 00:01:47.030 --> 00:01:50.689 what's great for you and not for us. If you end 00:01:50.689 --> 00:01:53.290 up hating this interview, we'll never know because 00:01:53.290 --> 00:01:55.810 we can't tell. Yeah. What you could you could 00:01:55.810 --> 00:01:57.950 be like rolling your eyes right now and we have 00:01:57.950 --> 00:02:01.349 zero clue. But I'm so excited to have you on. 00:02:01.969 --> 00:02:05.549 The reason why I wanted to have you on is what 00:02:05.549 --> 00:02:10.479 you do is so unique and so. spectacular it is 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:13.659 it's it's hard to find something new nowadays 00:02:13.659 --> 00:02:15.680 you know you you scroll through social media 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:17.759 right and you see there's something for everything 00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:20.539 right sure it's all been done and then it's been 00:02:20.539 --> 00:02:24.919 redone I've never seen what it is you do and 00:02:24.919 --> 00:02:27.120 the funny part is it came across my feet as I 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:31.919 think an ad of some sort and I was blown away 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:35.000 and why don't you tell us David what is it that 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:36.800 you do yeah we'd love to hear your description 00:02:37.289 --> 00:02:41.389 Yeah, that's actually great. I've never really 00:02:41.389 --> 00:02:43.210 described it other than like on my website or 00:02:43.210 --> 00:02:47.949 anything, but basically I make scale miniatures 00:02:47.949 --> 00:02:51.569 for film, TV, advertising, and private collectors. 00:02:53.009 --> 00:02:57.250 But my niche within miniatures is typically anything 00:02:57.250 --> 00:03:01.280 retro. So anything from retro movies, 80s and 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:05.939 90s. I have a certain product that I do, which 00:03:05.939 --> 00:03:09.840 is called retro rooms, which are basically a 00:03:09.840 --> 00:03:14.300 slice of an 80s or 90s bedroom and the client 00:03:14.300 --> 00:03:17.319 can actually customize everything they want in 00:03:17.319 --> 00:03:19.860 it. So either whether they're recreating the 00:03:19.860 --> 00:03:22.919 room they had as a child or the room they wish 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:24.719 they had as a child, there's just a room filled 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:28.860 with all their favorite stuff from the era. So 00:03:28.860 --> 00:03:31.379 that's super popular product that I offer, but 00:03:31.379 --> 00:03:35.620 the majority of my work is private collectors 00:03:35.620 --> 00:03:38.819 and film studios. So I've done work for Netflix, 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:43.939 Amazon, MGM, Sony Pictures, Ghostbusters, Back 00:03:43.939 --> 00:03:48.039 to the Future, all that fun stuff. And yeah, 00:03:48.099 --> 00:03:51.060 I've been going on 15 years now doing this. Wow. 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:54.939 It's amazing. What came first? Did it start out 00:03:54.939 --> 00:03:57.180 as a hobby or did it start out as a paid gig? 00:03:57.469 --> 00:03:59.129 that then evolved. Oh, no, it was definitely 00:03:59.129 --> 00:04:03.770 a hobby for sure. I was in the corporate world 00:04:03.770 --> 00:04:07.110 for a while. I started out as a graphic designer, 00:04:07.729 --> 00:04:12.050 eventually moved up to art director. I did a 00:04:12.050 --> 00:04:14.990 little stint in set design for film when I was 00:04:14.990 --> 00:04:17.050 much younger. I did an internship, didn't like 00:04:17.050 --> 00:04:19.290 it. It was like glorified construction work. 00:04:19.990 --> 00:04:22.370 Gotcha. No offense to construction workers. Sure. 00:04:22.709 --> 00:04:25.629 Super hard, which is why I didn't like it. Absolutely. 00:04:27.459 --> 00:04:30.480 And yeah, I actually it's kind of like a sort 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:35.699 of bittersweet story. But in 2013, I was diagnosed 00:04:35.699 --> 00:04:39.019 with kidney cancer. Oh, wow. And I had a lot 00:04:39.019 --> 00:04:41.459 of complications, was in and out of the hospital 00:04:41.459 --> 00:04:47.319 and was stuck at home for over a year and started 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:52.959 to get sort of cabin fever. And to the point 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:56.819 where like the hospital like recommended I speak 00:04:56.819 --> 00:04:58.560 to like one of their therapists because I was 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:02.279 like I'm going nuts, oh man and They're like, 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:03.980 oh, you know, do you have a hobby and I was like 00:05:03.980 --> 00:05:06.779 not really and they're like, well, maybe you 00:05:06.779 --> 00:05:10.180 had a hobby as a kid that you can maybe Like 00:05:10.180 --> 00:05:12.100 spark up again, and I was like, well, I used 00:05:12.100 --> 00:05:14.139 to like making scale models and stuff And when 00:05:14.139 --> 00:05:18.220 I was a kid they sucked obviously, right? But 00:05:18.220 --> 00:05:21.860 you know through a time you you acquire experience 00:05:21.860 --> 00:05:24.500 in things without realizing it, you know like 00:05:24.350 --> 00:05:27.629 By the time I hit my 30s, I had like partially 00:05:27.629 --> 00:05:31.149 renovated my own house and built certain things 00:05:31.149 --> 00:05:33.810 and whatever. So you can take those skills. Sure. 00:05:34.769 --> 00:05:39.050 And I decided to, you know, because I was stuck 00:05:39.050 --> 00:05:42.670 home binge watching stuff. I had just watched 00:05:42.670 --> 00:05:44.449 the Back to the Future trilogy, which was one 00:05:44.449 --> 00:05:47.670 of my favorites. So when this whole model making 00:05:47.670 --> 00:05:49.250 thing came up, I was like, oh, maybe I'll make 00:05:49.250 --> 00:05:51.810 a scene from Back to the Future. And so I went 00:05:51.810 --> 00:05:54.680 online and I bought a little Little car and then 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:59.100 I built the scene And I was like, huh that was 00:05:59.100 --> 00:06:01.259 fun I'm like I'm better at this than I thought 00:06:01.259 --> 00:06:03.800 I would have been so then I did a scene from 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:05.379 the second movie and then I made a scene from 00:06:05.379 --> 00:06:10.100 the third movie And then after that I was like 00:06:10.100 --> 00:06:14.160 I didn't want to stop so I made a scene from 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:17.360 Ghostbusters and then because I had a background 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:20.740 in graphic design and web design I decided to 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:25.720 just share them online and see what happens. 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:28.759 I remember where they got shared at the time. 00:06:29.019 --> 00:06:31.000 I don't know if Reddit was even a thing back 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:35.199 then, but it ended up getting reposted by other 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:40.100 people. Luckily, I had put my name at the bottom 00:06:40.100 --> 00:06:44.899 of each image. And I started getting contacted 00:06:44.899 --> 00:06:48.439 and messaged about like, hey, can I buy this? 00:06:48.759 --> 00:06:50.579 Like all these kinds of questions and like, it 00:06:50.579 --> 00:06:54.759 wasn't even a thought in my mind. For me, I had 00:06:54.759 --> 00:07:01.300 made these for me, you know? And then it kind 00:07:01.300 --> 00:07:05.459 of like, I've always had like a entrepreneurial 00:07:05.459 --> 00:07:09.009 spirit, I guess you can say. I've never been 00:07:09.009 --> 00:07:10.970 able to have a hobby that doesn't turn into a 00:07:10.970 --> 00:07:13.129 business. This is the pattern I've had in my 00:07:13.129 --> 00:07:15.709 life. I have a similar curse. It's not a bad 00:07:15.709 --> 00:07:20.870 problem. Yeah. So I went straight from like, 00:07:21.129 --> 00:07:23.550 oh, this post got a lot of attention to like, 00:07:23.689 --> 00:07:25.750 well, now it's a business. And I created a website 00:07:25.750 --> 00:07:29.069 and I created an Instagram. I love it. And I 00:07:29.069 --> 00:07:32.310 just started making stuff and selling them way 00:07:32.310 --> 00:07:34.110 cheaper than I should have been selling them. 00:07:35.620 --> 00:07:37.980 And it just kind of snowballed from there and 00:07:37.980 --> 00:07:43.160 then it kind of got to the point where I don't 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:44.699 know exactly how it works in the States. I'm 00:07:44.699 --> 00:07:47.040 in Canada So when you're sick you have like a 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:49.600 certain amount of time That the government will 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:52.120 like pay you to like get better and stay home 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:53.980 and yeah, we don't have any of that Yeah, and 00:07:53.980 --> 00:07:56.959 I was I was reaching my I think it was like one 00:07:56.959 --> 00:07:58.519 year or something like after one year They're 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:02.560 like you need to figure it out And I was sort 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:04.740 of at that point where like, okay, do I follow 00:08:04.740 --> 00:08:07.699 this or do I just go back to my job? Sure, which 00:08:07.699 --> 00:08:13.259 was waiting for me And I took the risk I had 00:08:13.259 --> 00:08:17.199 just gotten My first sort of big gig if you want 00:08:17.199 --> 00:08:22.500 to say it was for Universal Studios They wanted 00:08:22.500 --> 00:08:25.079 the universal pictures. I should say they wanted 00:08:25.079 --> 00:08:28.959 me to recreate the McFly house from back to the 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:33.179 future And it was for they were doing a big anniversary 00:08:33.179 --> 00:08:37.159 event in LA And they were gonna auction it off 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:40.879 for the Michael J Fox Foundation. Oh wow for 00:08:40.879 --> 00:08:45.580 Parkinson's so Yeah, and that was like sort of 00:08:45.580 --> 00:08:49.679 my sign of Okay, like my name's already getting 00:08:49.679 --> 00:08:53.559 out there like this is like a good way to start 00:08:53.559 --> 00:08:57.559 and The highlight for me at the time was I had 00:08:57.559 --> 00:09:02.360 gotten an email from Bob Gale. And for those 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:05.299 that are not familiar, Bob Gale is the co -producer 00:09:05.299 --> 00:09:08.100 and co -writer of Back to the Future, along with 00:09:08.100 --> 00:09:10.759 Robert Zemeckis and Steven Spielberg. And I got 00:09:10.759 --> 00:09:13.799 an email from him saying like, hey, he's like, 00:09:13.940 --> 00:09:16.759 I saw the miniatures you made. And he's like, 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:19.059 they're absolutely amazing. He's like, they really 00:09:19.059 --> 00:09:20.559 brought me back, blah, blah, blah. Like just 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:24.779 all this nice stuff. And for me, that was like, 00:09:24.980 --> 00:09:26.679 you know, between that and Universal, it was 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:30.840 like a big sign. that like I was on a good path. 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:36.340 Not gonna lie though, from that moment on, every 00:09:36.340 --> 00:09:40.960 time I got an email and the sender was like, 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:43.360 MGM, Warner Brothers. I was always like, well, 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:47.820 I'm getting sued. And it was always the opposite. 00:09:47.860 --> 00:09:49.480 It was always like, hey, we saw your stuff. We'd 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:51.080 like to work with you or we'd like to hire you 00:09:51.080 --> 00:09:54.360 to make this or whatever. So it's all been super 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:59.080 positive. And yeah, so back in, I would say 2013, 00:09:59.259 --> 00:10:06.019 2014, I went full time. And yeah, it's been great 00:10:06.019 --> 00:10:09.840 since. That's amazing. Long -winded answer, sorry. 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:14.100 No, no, it's fantastic. Just when I thought you 00:10:14.100 --> 00:10:17.840 couldn't get cooler, you also, you know, are 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:21.620 cancer survivor and turn something so negative 00:10:21.620 --> 00:10:24.440 into something so positive. On a personal note, 00:10:24.580 --> 00:10:28.210 did Did you find that, before this scaled into 00:10:28.210 --> 00:10:31.710 a business, did you find that the hobby actually 00:10:31.710 --> 00:10:34.590 took your mind off of your illness and did it 00:10:34.590 --> 00:10:39.669 do anything for you personally? Till this day, 00:10:41.049 --> 00:10:47.690 it's hard to describe how isolated my brain gets 00:10:47.690 --> 00:10:55.059 in a good way when I'm working. I could Get like 00:10:55.059 --> 00:10:57.720 the worst news ever or whatever and it's just 00:10:57.720 --> 00:10:59.840 like, you know what? I'm gonna go down to the 00:10:59.840 --> 00:11:04.000 shop and just work and it's It's it's my Xanax. 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:06.399 It's my melatonin. It's my you know what? I mean 00:11:06.399 --> 00:11:08.899 it. Yeah, you're able to just pour yourself I 00:11:08.899 --> 00:11:12.500 think it's because it it uses so much of my brain 00:11:12.500 --> 00:11:15.600 hundred percent and so much of my My physical 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:17.919 like it's almost difficult to think of anything 00:11:17.919 --> 00:11:25.379 else. Yeah It's yeah, I I experienced Panic attacks, 00:11:25.820 --> 00:11:28.080 you know my whole life and early on before I 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:30.720 got a handle on them The only way to truly get 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:33.100 myself out of a panic attack was to play guitar 00:11:33.100 --> 00:11:35.139 I didn't even want to play the guitar at the 00:11:35.139 --> 00:11:36.720 moment because I'm in the middle of a panic attack 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:40.039 But yeah, you know, you're physically making 00:11:40.039 --> 00:11:42.779 your brain do something different on something 00:11:42.779 --> 00:11:45.620 else and so I that's why that that kind of You 00:11:45.620 --> 00:11:47.700 connected with me there when you said, you know, 00:11:47.700 --> 00:11:50.580 you had this illness and and and So they they 00:11:50.580 --> 00:11:52.960 asked if you start a hobby I just think you know, 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:54.840 obviously this whole thing that you've created 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:57.879 is cool but I look at it from a different angle 00:11:57.879 --> 00:12:00.320 of like hey this this this actually might have 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:02.399 Saved his life in a way or at least gave you 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:07.840 a better quality of life 100 100 You know, like 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:10.639 I said, it's been like I lost count like somewhere 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:15.110 between 13 and 15 years and I You know, there 00:12:15.110 --> 00:12:21.610 has been times where, you know, like society 00:12:21.610 --> 00:12:23.769 has made me feel like this isn't a real job, 00:12:23.830 --> 00:12:25.269 you know, and I've worked a couple of months, 00:12:25.269 --> 00:12:27.409 like went back into graphic design for a couple 00:12:27.409 --> 00:12:32.350 of months and literally like day three on the 00:12:32.350 --> 00:12:34.809 new job with, you know, the cushy salary and 00:12:34.809 --> 00:12:36.830 the, you know, the health benefits and all that. 00:12:37.049 --> 00:12:40.950 I'm like, what am I doing? Horrible. Right. This 00:12:40.950 --> 00:12:46.899 is horrible. And yeah, like my my happy place 00:12:46.899 --> 00:12:50.139 is my shop that you see me in here and it's like, 00:12:50.179 --> 00:12:52.500 you know, I either have music on or I have a 00:12:52.500 --> 00:12:57.879 movie on and I'm just working away, you know, 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:02.899 I I can literally, you know, see the day go by 00:13:02.899 --> 00:13:06.659 and like forget to eat or forget like, you know, 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:08.659 like I have to set alarms for everything because 00:13:08.659 --> 00:13:11.350 they're all just zone out. Well, that's how you 00:13:11.350 --> 00:13:13.929 know, you love what you're doing when you know 00:13:13.929 --> 00:13:16.549 that old saying time flies I didn't realize that 00:13:16.549 --> 00:13:20.730 until you know, I started editing, you know video 00:13:20.730 --> 00:13:23.470 or recording music or something You know all 00:13:23.470 --> 00:13:25.350 of a sudden you blink and it's been four hours 00:13:25.350 --> 00:13:27.190 and that you're so hyper focused and it just 00:13:27.190 --> 00:13:29.690 takes you away Yeah, you know David I gotta ask 00:13:29.690 --> 00:13:33.740 it so Obviously, it's David's miniatures, and 00:13:33.740 --> 00:13:37.539 they're small models. Why so small? Why did you 00:13:37.539 --> 00:13:39.159 not go with something maybe a little bigger, 00:13:39.179 --> 00:13:42.279 a little easier to work with? What drew you to 00:13:42.279 --> 00:13:45.000 this tiny size? You mean bigger within the world 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:48.080 of miniatures? Yeah, just like a larger figure. 00:13:48.460 --> 00:13:50.860 Just something that maybe a little easier to 00:13:50.860 --> 00:13:53.220 work with, that you didn't need as many tweezers. 00:13:54.179 --> 00:13:56.720 Yeah, so I actually work in... Pretty much any 00:13:56.720 --> 00:14:00.299 scale that's requested. Okay, so i've i've done 00:14:00.299 --> 00:14:03.100 up to like one sixth scale for movies one eighth 00:14:03.100 --> 00:14:06.879 scale It just gets a little bit harder to work 00:14:06.879 --> 00:14:12.720 in the shop when they're that big sure but Usually 00:14:12.720 --> 00:14:15.200 i'll determine the scale either with the client 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:19.700 or Typically like the bigger the thing is in 00:14:19.700 --> 00:14:22.990 real life The smaller scale I'll choose because 00:14:22.990 --> 00:14:25.570 it's easier to display. It's easier to I see, 00:14:25.570 --> 00:14:30.370 you know, so, you know example I did Michael 00:14:30.370 --> 00:14:33.049 Scott's office. Yeah from the show the office 00:14:33.049 --> 00:14:37.850 and that was 124 scale so about That big Wow 00:14:37.850 --> 00:14:41.210 for the whole office But I had someone commission 00:14:41.210 --> 00:14:43.730 the building like the exterior of the building 00:14:43.730 --> 00:14:45.389 with the parking lot and everything from the 00:14:45.389 --> 00:14:48.029 office So that I did 164 scale which is like 00:14:48.029 --> 00:14:52.669 hot wheel size. Okay. Yeah And even at 164th 00:14:52.669 --> 00:14:56.529 scale, it was like two and a half to three feet 00:14:56.529 --> 00:15:01.250 wide, about 13 inches tall. So it was quite big. 00:15:01.309 --> 00:15:04.629 So that building at like 112th scale or 124th 00:15:04.629 --> 00:15:06.570 scale would have been bigger than this table. 00:15:08.009 --> 00:15:11.129 So that's how I determined the scale and obviously 00:15:11.129 --> 00:15:15.429 whatever the client requested. So like the studios, 00:15:15.809 --> 00:15:18.110 the big companies that come to you for this work, 00:15:18.669 --> 00:15:21.970 is it... What are they using it for? So is it 00:15:21.970 --> 00:15:24.710 a gift for the performers? Is it something they 00:15:24.710 --> 00:15:26.929 use in a production? Like what are they looking 00:15:26.929 --> 00:15:32.269 for? All of the above. I've made stuff for Amazon 00:15:32.269 --> 00:15:36.549 that was online promotion. So to promote like 00:15:36.549 --> 00:15:40.409 the new season of a show or a movie. Sometimes 00:15:40.409 --> 00:15:44.320 they... They get gifted to like the star of the 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:47.000 show or the director or whatever a lot of times 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:50.460 It's for promotion of a series or a movie like 00:15:50.460 --> 00:15:54.059 the majority. That's what it is. Gotcha but a 00:15:54.059 --> 00:15:58.240 lot of times I'll also ship it out to them. So 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:01.679 like I did a bunch of sets from Stranger Things 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:04.940 for Netflix So that was for online promotion, 00:16:04.940 --> 00:16:07.820 but now they're on display at the head office 00:16:08.430 --> 00:16:11.509 Like in the in the stranger things section of 00:16:11.509 --> 00:16:14.529 the head office, you know one thing so neat I 00:16:14.529 --> 00:16:17.509 know it really is man though one there's many 00:16:17.509 --> 00:16:20.570 things I love about you and and what you do one 00:16:20.570 --> 00:16:23.129 the obvious you're we're clearly around the same 00:16:23.129 --> 00:16:25.809 age because Everything I've seen on your site 00:16:25.809 --> 00:16:28.350 is just I mean you have hit such a nostalgia 00:16:28.350 --> 00:16:31.350 nerve with me from Ghostbusters To back to the 00:16:31.350 --> 00:16:34.470 future. It's all 80s 90s stuff. Yeah, but one 00:16:34.470 --> 00:16:39.029 thing that really connected on is so I have you 00:16:39.029 --> 00:16:42.169 know a handful of tattoos and when I first went 00:16:42.169 --> 00:16:44.850 to a tattoo artist one of the things I learned 00:16:44.850 --> 00:16:48.389 is like and I'm not disparaging tattoo artists 00:16:48.389 --> 00:16:50.669 that do this but you know you don't want to go 00:16:50.669 --> 00:16:52.690 to the tattoo artist in Myrtle Beach and go I 00:16:52.690 --> 00:16:55.269 want that thing on the wall you know most tattoo 00:16:55.269 --> 00:16:58.000 artists take pride in like Tell me what you want. 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:00.620 I'll design it. And I'm never going to do that. 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:02.639 At least my tattoo artist. It's a one of a kind. 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:04.579 It's a one of a kind. I'm never going to do that. 00:17:04.700 --> 00:17:06.680 Once I put it on your body, I'm never doing it 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:08.960 for anybody else. And when I was reading through 00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:11.740 your site, you kind of go along with that same 00:17:11.740 --> 00:17:14.380 model. If you want to talk about that, I really 00:17:14.380 --> 00:17:16.839 respect that. And I know it's as a customer kind 00:17:16.839 --> 00:17:19.220 of bums you out because I saw like 10 different 00:17:19.220 --> 00:17:21.079 models on on your website where I'm like, I want 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:22.759 that one. I want that one. And I want. Yeah, 00:17:23.259 --> 00:17:26.230 but. From an artist standpoint from a creative 00:17:26.230 --> 00:17:28.809 standpoint. I really think that's unique and 00:17:28.809 --> 00:17:32.230 special Yeah, so there there's several reasons 00:17:32.230 --> 00:17:36.369 why I do it The first and foremost reason why 00:17:36.369 --> 00:17:42.150 I do it is I hate making things twice That's 00:17:42.150 --> 00:17:46.029 the first reason each build is such a challenge 00:17:46.029 --> 00:17:49.490 It has its own you know ups and downs and things 00:17:49.490 --> 00:17:51.450 to figure out and for me. That's the fun part 00:17:51.450 --> 00:17:57.009 like figuring it out It would be easier for me 00:17:57.009 --> 00:17:59.190 to make something I've already made sure, you 00:17:59.190 --> 00:18:02.049 know I'll already have like certain files already 00:18:02.049 --> 00:18:05.569 done the blueprints already done whatever and 00:18:05.569 --> 00:18:09.349 And it's not to say that I never will That's 00:18:09.349 --> 00:18:12.829 my like my insurance plan Like if ever business 00:18:12.829 --> 00:18:15.109 isn't doing well, I can just open up the floodgates 00:18:15.109 --> 00:18:17.650 and be like, hey I'm willing to remake anything 00:18:17.650 --> 00:18:22.359 you've seen on my website But For the time being, 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:26.279 I don't need to. I have a one year plus waiting 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:31.519 list of stuff, and I don't really need to make 00:18:31.519 --> 00:18:37.960 five of that thing to survive. I do have this 00:18:37.960 --> 00:18:39.519 thing I've been doing for the past couple of 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:43.480 years where once a year I'll make a limited edition 00:18:43.480 --> 00:18:48.160 item that I think will sell well, that's more 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:49.599 affordable because not everybody could afford 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:52.509 my larger pieces. And it gives people that like 00:18:52.509 --> 00:18:56.029 my work a chance to like buy something. Yeah, 00:18:56.029 --> 00:18:58.069 that's like under a thousand dollars, you know, 00:18:59.069 --> 00:19:01.930 so Every year I release a different thing So 00:19:01.930 --> 00:19:04.170 this year it was like this little retro TV and 00:19:04.170 --> 00:19:05.869 it plays a bunch of like movie trailers from 00:19:05.869 --> 00:19:08.549 the 80s and it has like a VCR and a Nintendo 00:19:08.549 --> 00:19:10.710 That's awesome. And the client and the client 00:19:10.710 --> 00:19:13.109 can choose like the poster that's on the wall 00:19:13.109 --> 00:19:18.829 behind the TV and I sold over 200 of those in 00:19:18.829 --> 00:19:24.690 two weeks now I have to make them. But yeah, 00:19:24.730 --> 00:19:29.710 and they're all like handmade each one. So, but 00:19:29.710 --> 00:19:33.549 yeah, to go back to your question, the main reason 00:19:33.549 --> 00:19:36.789 is I just don't enjoy making things twice. But 00:19:36.789 --> 00:19:40.089 I also, you know, through the years dealing with 00:19:40.089 --> 00:19:44.269 collectors, collectors that have that budget 00:19:44.269 --> 00:19:46.890 that are willing to spend that amount of money 00:19:46.890 --> 00:19:49.700 on something that's unique and handmade. First 00:19:49.700 --> 00:19:52.039 of all, there aren't that many of them. Yeah 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:56.579 and Something that they value is knowing that 00:19:56.579 --> 00:19:58.440 they're the only ones that will have that piece 00:19:58.440 --> 00:20:02.519 That's awesome. So You know and I always tell 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:05.140 them the same thing I'm like if ever in X number 00:20:05.140 --> 00:20:07.759 of years I decide to make this again either for 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:09.779 myself or somebody else I will check in with 00:20:09.779 --> 00:20:12.279 you and make sure you're okay with it. If you're 00:20:12.279 --> 00:20:16.190 not I will not make it That's great. I've done 00:20:16.190 --> 00:20:18.670 variants of certain scenes, especially Back to 00:20:18.670 --> 00:20:22.990 the Future because it's my biggest demand. I've 00:20:22.990 --> 00:20:25.789 done the DeLorean coming out of the truck. I've 00:20:25.789 --> 00:20:28.410 done that three different ways. That's so great. 00:20:28.809 --> 00:20:32.210 The McFly House I made twice, but it was two 00:20:32.210 --> 00:20:37.069 different scenes. Same house, but one was the 00:20:37.069 --> 00:20:39.630 scene where basically the end of the first movie, 00:20:39.829 --> 00:20:42.549 beginning of the second, where the DeLorean comes 00:20:42.549 --> 00:20:45.630 in and crashes into the trash cans. And then 00:20:45.630 --> 00:20:48.190 the second one I made was the scene where Biff 00:20:48.190 --> 00:20:52.809 is waxing the cars. Yes. So, again, same house. 00:20:53.369 --> 00:20:55.890 But, you know, and that one, I kind of agreed 00:20:55.890 --> 00:21:00.390 to do it because the McFly house, the first one 00:21:00.390 --> 00:21:02.690 I did was my first thing I ever made that went 00:21:02.690 --> 00:21:07.509 viral. But it was also one of the first bigger 00:21:07.509 --> 00:21:12.609 projects that I did. And. It was over 10 years 00:21:12.609 --> 00:21:15.720 ago. Wow, and I just it was almost like a challenge 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:19.819 to myself to see You know, did I get better? 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:22.039 Did I get faster? Did I you know because like 00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:26.920 it's essentially the exact same house and I think 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:31.240 it took me a Month and a half to make it the 00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:35.140 first time The second time took me two weeks 00:21:35.140 --> 00:21:39.799 Wow That's so we're gonna be showing as you're 00:21:39.799 --> 00:21:42.960 talking by the way We're gonna edit in we'll 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:45.299 cut in some all through this way. We're gonna 00:21:45.299 --> 00:21:48.420 cut in pictures of all that I got one more yeah 00:21:48.420 --> 00:21:53.079 question, and I want you to do your thing I I 00:21:53.079 --> 00:21:55.579 want to talk about the obvious now. You're a 00:21:55.579 --> 00:21:57.720 no -face account We talked about that and in 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:00.160 solidarity Matt, and I are also doing a no -face 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:03.799 interview kind of liking this is this is this 00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:06.279 to just you want to keep your identity anonymous 00:22:06.279 --> 00:22:10.319 or is it kind of like a puppeteer type deal where 00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:12.299 you're like you know the allure of this is that 00:22:12.299 --> 00:22:15.640 I make these things you can see what I made but 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:18.359 you know it's it's almost like a creative choice 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:20.000 like I'm the you know I'm behind the scenes I'm 00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:22.079 the puppeteer or is it maybe a mixture of both 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:28.019 so it it kind of it was never on purpose um smart 00:22:28.019 --> 00:22:32.059 because of the nature of what I do Most of the 00:22:32.059 --> 00:22:35.099 pictures are like of my hand holding something 00:22:35.099 --> 00:22:37.140 or my hand in the picture of something I feel 00:22:37.140 --> 00:22:39.839 like the scale of my hand is more relevant sure 00:22:39.839 --> 00:22:42.259 do like if I if I do a full -body picture of 00:22:42.259 --> 00:22:44.259 me holding a miniature like you'll barely be 00:22:44.259 --> 00:22:46.440 able to see the miniature because The camera 00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:48.700 would be have to be far away enough to see like 00:22:48.700 --> 00:22:53.140 my face and my torso, right? So at the beginning 00:22:53.140 --> 00:22:55.799 it was just like a logical thing. It wasn't like 00:22:55.799 --> 00:23:02.349 I'm hiding myself. Mm -hmm but As my social media 00:23:02.349 --> 00:23:07.009 accounts grew and everything And I had like, 00:23:07.150 --> 00:23:08.890 you know, I had a kid and things like that and 00:23:08.890 --> 00:23:10.809 I was just thinking about like privacy a little 00:23:10.809 --> 00:23:15.470 bit more And you know, I had a I had another 00:23:15.470 --> 00:23:20.829 business a while ago and I had at the time like 00:23:20.829 --> 00:23:23.210 I'm not gonna get into it too much, but I had 00:23:23.210 --> 00:23:27.210 a competitor that went a little bit cuckoo And 00:23:27.210 --> 00:23:29.509 I had to deal with some crazy shit like, you 00:23:29.509 --> 00:23:34.990 know slashing my tires Sending shit to my house 00:23:34.990 --> 00:23:39.490 and like it's crazy and you know, it taught me 00:23:39.490 --> 00:23:43.970 that it only takes one crazy person to like ruin 00:23:43.970 --> 00:23:48.890 your life and You know when you start having 00:23:48.890 --> 00:23:52.950 like 10 ,000 20 ,000 30 ,000 50 ,000 followers 00:23:54.359 --> 00:23:56.359 You don't know who those people are. That's right, 00:23:56.380 --> 00:24:00.200 and you can never assume Like oh, but they follow 00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:02.400 me. They're all fans. They're all like nice people 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:05.759 that like I work like no That's not the case 00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:09.819 at all Every celebrity stalker was a fan. That's 00:24:09.819 --> 00:24:14.779 right Yeah, so it it kind of evolved into that 00:24:14.779 --> 00:24:16.400 like at the beginning I just felt there was no 00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:18.819 need sure for like like what does my face have 00:24:18.819 --> 00:24:21.099 to do with any of this? you know, yeah, and it's 00:24:21.099 --> 00:24:24.460 funny cuz I made friends like, you know, in the 00:24:24.460 --> 00:24:27.140 sort of miniature community and influencer community 00:24:27.140 --> 00:24:30.079 whatever at the beginning and a lot of them were 00:24:30.079 --> 00:24:34.119 telling me this is sort of before Influencing 00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:38.160 was like a legitimate sure fashion And a lot 00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:39.519 of them were telling me like, oh no You have 00:24:39.519 --> 00:24:41.559 to show your face and people like, you know, 00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:43.440 they respond to that and like blah blah. I'm 00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:46.759 like I don't like I'm like I don't see how it's 00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:53.569 relevant to what I do. Yeah and Yeah, so in the 00:24:53.569 --> 00:24:57.089 end I never did and I'm super glad that I did 00:24:57.089 --> 00:25:01.549 I now have a podcast which is Filmed the exact 00:25:01.549 --> 00:25:04.289 same way. This is filmed scale talk is the name 00:25:04.289 --> 00:25:06.829 of the podcast. Yes scale talk project and I 00:25:06.829 --> 00:25:10.329 interview like different artists and and Miniaturists 00:25:10.329 --> 00:25:12.329 and things like that. Like I've had people on 00:25:12.329 --> 00:25:16.349 that, you know worked on Star Wars and Terminator 00:25:16.349 --> 00:25:20.450 I saw you talk to Freddie Prinze and junior. 00:25:20.609 --> 00:25:23.579 Yeah Yeah, because he's into like model making 00:25:23.579 --> 00:25:25.819 and stuff, so I had him on. Do you find that 00:25:25.819 --> 00:25:28.339 you have to regularly like go get manicures because 00:25:28.339 --> 00:25:30.279 your hand is always in frame? Do you have like 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:32.440 take extra care of your hands? The episode of 00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:34.299 Friends where you get the hand model? Yeah, yeah, 00:25:34.299 --> 00:25:38.140 yeah. Yeah, no, I'm pretty good. Like I clean 00:25:38.140 --> 00:25:40.920 them up every day. I literally have some pictures 00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:43.299 where like I have still have paint on my hands 00:25:43.299 --> 00:25:45.900 and stuff. I mean, that's real though. It is 00:25:45.900 --> 00:25:49.619 real. Yeah. No, but that's why that's how it 00:25:49.619 --> 00:25:52.450 all kind of Started it was never really intentional 00:25:52.450 --> 00:25:57.849 But I'm glad that I did just because you know 00:25:57.849 --> 00:26:00.009 and like I was saying before it like for my podcast 00:26:00.009 --> 00:26:04.410 it it kind of comes in handy because Sometimes 00:26:04.410 --> 00:26:06.109 if like I have like a bad connection with the 00:26:06.109 --> 00:26:08.809 person it'll seem like I'm talking over them 00:26:08.809 --> 00:26:11.269 But I'm not it's just because there's a delay. 00:26:11.309 --> 00:26:14.890 Yeah, I'm able to just like scooch my audio over 00:26:14.890 --> 00:26:17.569 and You can't tell that it doesn't match my mouth 00:26:17.569 --> 00:26:21.299 or not So super handy for her podcast. It is 00:26:21.299 --> 00:26:23.079 brilliant. You know, the other thing I like about 00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:26.059 it. I mean, you're just like clobbering me with 00:26:26.059 --> 00:26:28.920 nostalgia. You're reminding me of Dr. Claw from 00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:30.920 Inspector Gadget. So I think it's kind of cool, 00:26:31.140 --> 00:26:33.559 too. Like, I have no idea. I was going to say, 00:26:33.859 --> 00:26:36.880 are you happy? I'll get you gadget. I didn't 00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:39.220 know if you were petting a cat or not, but yeah. 00:26:40.149 --> 00:26:43.750 Oh, man. David, I just got one more quick question 00:26:43.750 --> 00:26:45.029 for you. I was going to ask you about your podcast, 00:26:45.130 --> 00:26:46.569 and you already told us about that, which is 00:26:46.569 --> 00:26:49.250 awesome. One of the last things I just want to 00:26:49.250 --> 00:26:52.130 know is, as you're building these things, obviously 00:26:52.130 --> 00:26:54.950 you have to fabricate so much of it. You could 00:26:54.950 --> 00:26:59.210 maybe buy a Matchbox DeLorean, but how do you 00:26:59.210 --> 00:27:02.250 go about that? Do you custom make everything, 00:27:02.470 --> 00:27:04.970 and what type of materials do you use to fabricate 00:27:04.970 --> 00:27:08.569 these different pieces? Yeah, so nowadays, It's 00:27:08.569 --> 00:27:11.250 much different than it was I would say like You 00:27:11.250 --> 00:27:13.509 know for the last three years. I have a lot more 00:27:13.509 --> 00:27:16.829 tools at my disposal. So I got into 3d printing. 00:27:16.829 --> 00:27:22.190 I got into laser cutting mostly for Time sure 00:27:22.190 --> 00:27:26.269 reasons and speed You know if you go on my website 00:27:26.269 --> 00:27:28.690 you I don't think you'd be able to tell You know 00:27:28.690 --> 00:27:31.650 which products like which models I made prior 00:27:31.650 --> 00:27:35.150 to owning those tools. Uh -huh It's just a question 00:27:35.150 --> 00:27:41.160 of time And everything I 3D print, I 3D model 00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:44.460 myself. So I'm lucky again, because I come from 00:27:44.460 --> 00:27:47.559 sort of graphic design, visual background. I 00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:51.880 knew a little 3D modeling. If ever I have to 00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:54.299 3D model people, I usually outsource that to 00:27:54.299 --> 00:27:57.200 an artist that I work with. Oh, cool. And he 00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:59.980 3D models people, or I work with a good friend 00:27:59.980 --> 00:28:03.259 of mine who's an amazing sculptor. And he'll 00:28:03.259 --> 00:28:06.920 do that for me. But yeah, most of the stuff is 00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:12.339 handmade, mostly out of either wood, MDF, resin, 00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:16.539 and a very common material we use in model making 00:28:16.539 --> 00:28:20.640 is called styrene. It's a plastic. You can buy 00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:23.660 it in textures. You can buy it in strips. You 00:28:23.660 --> 00:28:26.440 can buy it like I just used yesterday, one that 00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:29.829 has a stone effect. Cool, so you can like at 00:28:29.829 --> 00:28:31.670 your hobby shop. You can basically buy like if 00:28:31.670 --> 00:28:33.589 you want like a stone wall You can buy it like 00:28:33.589 --> 00:28:36.430 it comes in like different scales I see and you 00:28:36.430 --> 00:28:38.509 just buy the one you want and it's like a plastic 00:28:38.509 --> 00:28:41.309 that you can like weld together Instead of glue 00:28:41.309 --> 00:28:43.990 I see so it's very common and that's all like 00:28:43.990 --> 00:28:45.930 all the Star Wars movies were made. It was all 00:28:45.930 --> 00:28:49.190 styrene Do you think you're speaking of scale 00:28:49.190 --> 00:28:53.200 talk your podcast? Do you do you? Think you'll 00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:55.279 ever get to a point where you have to scale the 00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:58.460 business and hire employees and maybe use a 3d 00:28:58.460 --> 00:29:00.640 printer Or do you always just want to keep it 00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:04.299 you in your workshop and and just kind of do 00:29:04.299 --> 00:29:08.140 it at your own pace? Yeah, it's funny you say 00:29:08.140 --> 00:29:10.420 that I was I was talking about that with with 00:29:10.420 --> 00:29:13.220 someone else and I'm kind of getting at that 00:29:13.220 --> 00:29:17.400 point. I just I'm just at a point where like 00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:20.539 logistically, I don't know how it would work 00:29:20.269 --> 00:29:23.250 You know my shop is in my house, and I I don't 00:29:23.250 --> 00:29:29.890 want to change that right now It's It's very 00:29:29.890 --> 00:29:32.589 hard because it's for me each piece is so personal 00:29:32.589 --> 00:29:36.309 sure even if you know even if like someone I'll 00:29:36.309 --> 00:29:38.250 give you an example like right now I'm making 00:29:38.250 --> 00:29:43.819 a motel that this guy's family owned When you 00:29:43.819 --> 00:29:46.039 know, it's a motel in L .A. like nothing special. 00:29:46.099 --> 00:29:48.680 Cool. But they sold it not long ago. The dad 00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:51.519 retired and he wanted a miniature of the motel 00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:55.039 to give him as a gift. Sure. So I personally 00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:59.000 have no attachment to this place as I would if 00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:01.140 it was like one of my favorite movies or something 00:30:01.140 --> 00:30:05.319 like that. Yeah. But the time you invest in it, 00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:09.009 like the research, the all that stuff. goes into 00:30:09.009 --> 00:30:11.009 like, oh, what model air conditioner is that? 00:30:11.130 --> 00:30:12.890 And like, you know, you go down this rabbit hole, 00:30:13.069 --> 00:30:16.069 just figure everything out, you become attached 00:30:16.069 --> 00:30:19.970 to it. And I've tried in the past to like, get 00:30:19.970 --> 00:30:25.170 people to help me. And oftentimes, it's faster 00:30:25.170 --> 00:30:28.670 for me to do it myself than to explain to somebody. 00:30:28.690 --> 00:30:32.430 Yeah, yeah. How to do it. Like right now, I'm 00:30:32.430 --> 00:30:36.029 working on a project. When I work on bigger projects, 00:30:36.089 --> 00:30:39.019 I sort of pause in between. Just because I don't 00:30:39.019 --> 00:30:41.880 want to like work on one thing for three months 00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:44.799 like a for my brain But be it's sort of like 00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:48.779 messes up my my waiting list So I'm working on 00:30:48.779 --> 00:30:51.000 a reproduction of the carousel of progress the 00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:54.259 Disney ride Wow, and it has like a motorized 00:30:54.259 --> 00:30:57.579 base and everything and Because it's the ride 00:30:57.579 --> 00:31:00.700 is four acts I'm doing like one act and then 00:31:00.700 --> 00:31:03.380 I'm going back to my to -do list and then do 00:31:03.380 --> 00:31:07.240 another act And that one, like each act has like 00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:10.839 between three and five people in it. They're 00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:12.779 not real people in real life. They're electronic. 00:31:13.019 --> 00:31:16.200 Right. So I hired this super talented, like 3D 00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:20.460 artist to model the people. But just to work 00:31:20.460 --> 00:31:25.119 with him, it took me three days of researching 00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:27.359 like all the images, finding different angles 00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:30.299 of the people. And then let's sort of like writing 00:31:30.299 --> 00:31:32.869 out a document of him like. How much detail do 00:31:32.869 --> 00:31:35.450 I need? How much do I not need? How are these 00:31:35.450 --> 00:31:38.549 models going to interact with my model? Like, 00:31:38.549 --> 00:31:41.750 do I need a peg in a whole system or like, how 00:31:41.750 --> 00:31:45.369 is that working? And, you know, it worked out 00:31:45.369 --> 00:31:47.470 fine, but, you know, it took me three days just 00:31:47.470 --> 00:31:50.710 to prep him to do that thing. And the only reason 00:31:50.710 --> 00:31:52.089 I did it is because that's something I can't 00:31:52.089 --> 00:31:55.890 do myself. Yeah. And what one of the things that 00:31:55.890 --> 00:31:57.670 blows me away, too, and I know we got to get 00:31:57.670 --> 00:31:59.750 you out here. I'm sorry. I just. One more couple 00:31:59.750 --> 00:32:03.670 quick things David from David miniatures The 00:32:03.670 --> 00:32:06.670 thing that caught my eye. I mean obviously and 00:32:06.670 --> 00:32:08.490 again, we're showing all this right now, but 00:32:08.490 --> 00:32:11.829 You know the the the models themselves are spectacular, 00:32:11.829 --> 00:32:14.950 but there's another element You know you add 00:32:14.950 --> 00:32:18.369 like you were talking about like movement and 00:32:18.369 --> 00:32:21.589 the first thing I saw of yours was it was a television 00:32:21.589 --> 00:32:25.690 set that had like the like it had the Super Nintendo 00:32:25.690 --> 00:32:28.009 or the Nintendo hooked up. And like, you know, 00:32:28.150 --> 00:32:31.470 when the squiggly lines squiggly. Yeah, it literally 00:32:31.470 --> 00:32:34.869 does that. Yeah. Just so it's not just modeling 00:32:34.869 --> 00:32:37.869 your engineering. It's absolutely spectacular. 00:32:38.349 --> 00:32:40.910 And I'm telling you right now, we're going to 00:32:40.910 --> 00:32:43.670 be on that waiting list starting tomorrow morning 00:32:43.670 --> 00:32:45.109 because we're going to come up with something 00:32:45.109 --> 00:32:49.029 that we'd love for you to make. So you obviously. 00:32:49.230 --> 00:32:52.569 don't just do movie sets. You said you're doing 00:32:52.569 --> 00:32:57.349 like the retro rooms you do. You're doing a motel 00:32:57.349 --> 00:33:00.269 that was near and dear to somebody's heart. What 00:33:00.269 --> 00:33:02.630 else do you do? So for those that are watching 00:33:02.630 --> 00:33:05.309 and listening. And while you're on that, do you 00:33:05.309 --> 00:33:07.509 want to just take us through the quick process 00:33:07.509 --> 00:33:09.609 of somebody comes to your site and they want 00:33:09.609 --> 00:33:11.349 to purchase something? How does that all work? 00:33:12.029 --> 00:33:15.970 Yeah, sure. So to answer the first part, anything 00:33:15.970 --> 00:33:19.400 that's miniature, I can make. whatever it is. 00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:24.259 I've made miniature fire departments for like 00:33:24.259 --> 00:33:26.079 city buildings that want to display like the 00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:28.059 new fire department they just built or whatever. 00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:30.059 Like, you know, so I do a lot of commercial work. 00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:33.559 I've done real estate stuff for people. You know, 00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:36.400 it doesn't have to be movie and TV based. So 00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:39.279 because of my portfolio, that's the majority 00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:44.160 of work I get is that. But I do commercial stuff 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:48.700 all the time. And to explain the process, it's 00:33:48.700 --> 00:33:51.200 pretty simple. Usually people reach out either 00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:54.460 through a form on my website or through social 00:33:54.460 --> 00:33:58.920 media. And because the demand has gotten so high 00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:00.740 lately, I usually just send people back to the 00:34:00.740 --> 00:34:03.400 website and fill out the forms because it asks 00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:07.319 certain questions that I need to know. And then 00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:10.820 it just kind of goes from there. Usually if it's 00:34:10.820 --> 00:34:13.449 a private client, There's just a lot of back 00:34:13.449 --> 00:34:15.349 and forth about what they want, the scale, the 00:34:15.349 --> 00:34:18.530 size, the budget, that kind of thing. Then they 00:34:18.530 --> 00:34:20.630 pay me a deposit. They go on the waiting list. 00:34:20.829 --> 00:34:24.230 Usually about a month before I begin production, 00:34:24.349 --> 00:34:27.389 I usually reach out to them, confirm that they 00:34:27.389 --> 00:34:28.989 don't want to change anything, they don't want 00:34:28.989 --> 00:34:31.889 to add the budget, reduce the budget, that type 00:34:31.889 --> 00:34:37.900 of thing. Then I get going when it's more of 00:34:37.900 --> 00:34:39.659 a commercial job. Let's say it's like a Netflix 00:34:39.659 --> 00:34:41.420 thing or whatever Usually there's a lot of meetings 00:34:41.420 --> 00:34:44.940 involved a lot of zoom calls with the directors 00:34:44.940 --> 00:34:47.739 or whatever So that's a little bit of a different 00:34:47.739 --> 00:34:51.380 process, but it's essentially the same in the 00:34:51.380 --> 00:34:55.460 end. Yeah, and you I mean that is just it's just 00:34:55.460 --> 00:35:02.119 outstanding the the whole thing Do you see this 00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:05.159 going? to a next level or do you feel like you're 00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:08.019 just going to ride it out? Keep this, you know, 00:35:08.019 --> 00:35:11.840 the way it is. Do your thing or is there a next 00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:15.239 level to this? A next step? I mean, the only 00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:20.780 next level I see is I think eventually I may 00:35:20.780 --> 00:35:25.400 have to either stop or limit like private orders 00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:29.820 from collectors because every year the demand 00:35:29.820 --> 00:35:35.460 for my commercial work goes up. And those projects, 00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:38.739 not to get into too much detail, but pay way 00:35:38.739 --> 00:35:44.119 better. And they're usually, how can I explain 00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.880 this? I can't tell Netflix you have to wait a 00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:50.739 year. You know what I mean? And the problem is 00:35:50.739 --> 00:35:53.920 these companies, and because I've worked on the 00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:57.519 corporate world, I understand. They're having 00:35:57.519 --> 00:35:59.059 a meeting and somebody in the meeting is like, 00:35:59.059 --> 00:36:01.110 hey, it'd be cool if this was miniature. and 00:36:01.110 --> 00:36:03.130 their project is due in three weeks and then 00:36:03.130 --> 00:36:04.570 they call me and they're like, hey, can you do 00:36:04.570 --> 00:36:08.309 this? Most of these commercial jobs are very 00:36:08.309 --> 00:36:14.329 quick turnaround, usually within 30 days. The 00:36:14.329 --> 00:36:17.789 amount of money I make in 30 days for those versus 00:36:17.789 --> 00:36:20.230 the amount of money I make and someone has to 00:36:20.230 --> 00:36:24.289 wait a year for it, it doesn't make sense. But 00:36:24.289 --> 00:36:27.130 right now, I'm very much in the middle of both 00:36:27.130 --> 00:36:33.670 of those. The the private collector world is 00:36:33.670 --> 00:36:37.190 still Pretty viable for me and I have a lot of 00:36:37.190 --> 00:36:39.489 regular clients that you know They'll order like 00:36:39.489 --> 00:36:42.269 two three at a time and just wait for them and 00:36:42.269 --> 00:36:44.989 then they order like two three more and I have 00:36:44.989 --> 00:36:46.590 a client just reached out to me last week and 00:36:46.590 --> 00:36:49.969 he's like and I like I forget who I make things 00:36:49.969 --> 00:36:52.429 for sometimes right and he sent me a picture 00:36:52.429 --> 00:36:55.750 of his office and He must have had like maybe 00:36:55.750 --> 00:36:59.289 six or seven of my pieces Wow And in my head, 00:36:59.309 --> 00:37:00.650 I'm like, man, I didn't even realize these were 00:37:00.650 --> 00:37:03.889 all for you. No kidding. And he's like, hey, 00:37:04.090 --> 00:37:06.590 he's like, can you build me like a custom shelf 00:37:06.590 --> 00:37:09.590 to display these? And I was like, I'm like, first 00:37:09.590 --> 00:37:11.670 of all, you're like in Chicago or something. 00:37:12.429 --> 00:37:14.690 And second of all, like, I don't build furniture. 00:37:15.010 --> 00:37:18.590 If you want, I can, if you want, I can like design 00:37:18.590 --> 00:37:22.329 it and then you can like give that to like a 00:37:22.329 --> 00:37:24.489 carpenter or something and build it off of that. 00:37:24.869 --> 00:37:27.679 But that's about as best as I can. can do it 00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:32.119 so um yeah the regulars is fun because they and 00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:34.119 those are always the people that trust me the 00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:37.460 most they're always like hey i want something 00:37:37.460 --> 00:37:39.019 from goonies i'm like cool what do you want they're 00:37:39.019 --> 00:37:42.360 like whatever just tell me how much it is and 00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:44.400 i'm like all right and then i just do like whatever 00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:47.639 scene i think is the coolest is is there a lot 00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:51.329 of um Like do you give people a specific set 00:37:51.329 --> 00:37:54.030 of like I need these kind of pictures these dimensions 00:37:54.030 --> 00:37:56.170 when they want to build something That's not 00:37:56.170 --> 00:38:01.090 from a movie scene Like to send you ahead more 00:38:01.090 --> 00:38:05.690 I can get the better yeah, right so a Lot the 00:38:05.690 --> 00:38:08.070 advantage is like a lot of times. They're real 00:38:08.070 --> 00:38:12.210 places that still exists so Google Street View 00:38:12.210 --> 00:38:18.099 is like a huge resource for that and Sometimes 00:38:18.099 --> 00:38:21.940 having a large following is super useful For 00:38:21.940 --> 00:38:23.880 that as well, and I'll give you an example. I 00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:28.980 had to I made the Vic theater in Chicago for 00:38:28.980 --> 00:38:35.679 For Sal volcano. Mm -hmm. Okay practice jokers 00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:38.440 Yeah and practical jokers So he was doing his 00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:41.880 first like TV special at the Vic and they wanted 00:38:41.880 --> 00:38:44.860 to sort of commemorate that with a model of the 00:38:44.860 --> 00:38:47.250 Vic but like the marquee and stuff had his name 00:38:47.250 --> 00:38:50.909 on it and everything. Um, and obviously I'm not 00:38:50.909 --> 00:38:55.989 in Chicago and I, I, there was a lot of pictures 00:38:55.989 --> 00:39:00.750 of the Vic online and it was very like inconsistent. 00:39:01.130 --> 00:39:03.769 Like it had gone through renovations at one point. 00:39:03.769 --> 00:39:06.889 The street view was like three years old. So 00:39:06.889 --> 00:39:08.690 I just reached out, I went on my stories and 00:39:08.690 --> 00:39:11.650 I was like, Hey, if anybody's in Chicago, like 00:39:11.650 --> 00:39:14.489 I need help with something, let me know. What 00:39:14.489 --> 00:39:16.309 am I? Followers reached out. He's like, hey, 00:39:16.389 --> 00:39:18.210 what's up? And I'm like, hey, I'm like, are you 00:39:18.210 --> 00:39:20.070 far from like the Vic? He's like, no, like five 00:39:20.070 --> 00:39:23.210 minutes. I'm like, would you mind like just going 00:39:23.210 --> 00:39:25.110 there and just snapping like a bunch of pictures? 00:39:25.929 --> 00:39:27.969 He's like, yeah, no problem. So he he went over 00:39:27.969 --> 00:39:30.250 to the Vic and he was like live sending me pictures 00:39:30.250 --> 00:39:31.969 on Instagram. He's like, what else do you need? 00:39:32.010 --> 00:39:34.090 And I'm like, oh, I need that, like that sconce. 00:39:34.110 --> 00:39:36.389 And I need like a close up of the sign on the 00:39:36.389 --> 00:39:38.610 door. And he was just walking around, like snapping 00:39:38.610 --> 00:39:42.690 pictures of his iPhone. So. You got a street 00:39:42.690 --> 00:39:45.809 team. Yeah, literally. Yeah. Just deploy people 00:39:45.809 --> 00:39:49.489 all over the world. That's awesome. I love that. 00:39:50.429 --> 00:39:52.710 David, we are out of time, my friend. And you 00:39:52.710 --> 00:39:55.269 have been so incredibly generous with your time. 00:39:55.289 --> 00:39:58.809 So much, yeah. It's really been incredible talking 00:39:58.809 --> 00:40:00.889 to you about this and learning about this and 00:40:00.889 --> 00:40:03.210 the best part is you're a fellow podcaster So 00:40:03.210 --> 00:40:07.170 for folks that want to dig even deeper He peels 00:40:07.170 --> 00:40:09.230 back the onion on all kinds of things incredible 00:40:09.230 --> 00:40:12.570 channel that we were Going through all over YouTube 00:40:12.570 --> 00:40:14.929 and its website. Yeah, you can also tell it He's 00:40:14.929 --> 00:40:17.349 got a background in web because he's got it actually 00:40:17.349 --> 00:40:20.190 nice nice clean well organized site where you 00:40:20.190 --> 00:40:22.590 can check out everything he's doing David's miniature 00:40:22.590 --> 00:40:25.170 David miniatures comm or David David manager 00:40:25.630 --> 00:40:28.369 I own both domains just in case, but it's David 00:40:28.369 --> 00:40:31.769 Miniatures. David Miniatures scale talk is the 00:40:31.769 --> 00:40:33.610 podcast. Anything else you want to plug, my friend? 00:40:34.849 --> 00:40:37.769 No. Best place to visit me is Instagram at David 00:40:37.769 --> 00:40:40.630 Miniatures. If you want to contact me there or 00:40:40.630 --> 00:40:42.389 through my website, if you're interested in anything 00:40:42.389 --> 00:40:44.570 or have questions or want to learn or anything 00:40:44.570 --> 00:40:47.340 like that. And we'll definitely be tagging you 00:40:47.340 --> 00:40:50.300 on all of our posts. And on a personal note, 00:40:50.340 --> 00:40:52.239 without getting into it, I want to let you know 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:55.159 here at Good News York, we absolutely love and 00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:59.400 respect Canada. So God bless. I'll leave it at 00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:01.679 that, my friend. All right. All right. Have a 00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:03.340 good one. Thank you, David. David, thank you. 00:41:04.179 --> 00:41:08.800 Wow. So we just did a no face interview. We did. 00:41:10.179 --> 00:41:12.300 That's I don't know if we'll ever do that again. 00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:16.900 We might do it every day now. I liked not seeing 00:41:16.900 --> 00:41:17.480 your face.