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All right, good morning, welcome to Good News

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York. It's Tuesday. I don't even know what month

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it is, so I'm not gonna attempt to do the date.

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Mike Brindisi, Matt Mazer, you're tuning into

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the day that we, I knew it was gonna happen at

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some point. We showed up with the same. Alphadon.

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Somehow our laundry piles had the same clean

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shirt on the top. We're on the same side. I don't

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know how that worked. Is it like when women get,

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like their periods are on the same cycle? It

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might be. Like now we're on the same clothing.

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What color underwear are you wearing? Let me

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check. I'm wearing pink thongs. Blue. Blue underwear.

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Going blue underwear today. All right, I don't

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know when to answer that because now it's getting

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scary. Okay. Anyway, we don't... Want to delay

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this nonsense any longer because we have a guest

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waiting for us We do give us a quick introduction

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and then we will bring him with us I feel like

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I don't have an introduction because I feel like

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We've just mentioned him so many damn times on

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the podcast because we've had a bunch of comedians

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on and we always reference Mike Peters Yeah,

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Mike Peters at this point. I call him a friend

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of mine a brilliant Comedian and I would say

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promoter. He started home -brewed comedy It started

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as a small thing and now it has blown up and

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I'm glad to be a part of it He has created single

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-handedly created a comedy scene in All of upstate

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New York and it's incredible. It's awesome and

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we have him on the show ladies Jim. Welcome Mike

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Peters Mike Peters. What's up, buddy? Welcome

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to good New York. Hey, thanks guys. Appreciate

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you extending this invitation. And by the way,

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I am not brilliant. I did not single -handedly

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create a scene, though I will accept both of

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those. Is it fair to say you're like the Phil

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Farta of the Southern Tier? He is the Phil Farta

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of the Southern Tier. I don't know if that's

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something he might want to be called, but...

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I don't know. Anytime you're compared to Phil

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Farta, it seems like an insult. That's perfect.

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I think you have more hair. Yeah. I do have more

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hair. Yeah, see? Way more hair. Actually, Mike,

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we were talking about this off the air recently

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and I need your... Clicking. Sorry. I need your

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point of view on this. Doesn't it seem like Phil

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continuously always has hot women around him?

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Yeah, I wonder why. It's probably an accident.

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It has to be an accident. But we were saying

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the other day, I'm like, why is it every time

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I see Phil, he's got hot women with him? And

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I love Phil, but he's Brad Pitt. That is the

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blessing of being funny. That's true. That's

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true. Having a mild sense of humor is the only

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way a schlub like me ever found a wife. That's

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true. That's true. I'm not taking any shots of

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you, man, but I'm in the same situation. being

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mildly funny, like I can, I'll make my girlfriend

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laugh so much harder off stage than on stage.

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And like without that skill, no way. I'm probably,

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listen, I got three cats and I have three cats

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for a reason because I plan on being alone for

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a long time. So Mike, enough about us and people

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that aren't here. Let's talk about you. How did

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you get into this? Did you start out as a comedian

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yourself? And then kind of stumble into the business

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side of things or how did that work out for you?

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Yeah, absolutely. I started doing stand up when

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I was 33. So I'm 42 now. So if you do the math,

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Mike, I'll help you. That's almost nine years.

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Thank you. Thank you. I was at 12. Thank you.

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No, I used to be a sports writer and I always

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wanted to do stand up. And then I stopped having

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a second shift job. And when I moved up to New

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York, I was in Baltimore for a while, moved back

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to New York and I was like, I need an outlet

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to write. So I started doing standup. And then

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Mike can probably attest to this, but like when

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you start doing standup, you're mad at everybody

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else because you're not getting enough work.

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Like people in the local scene aren't booking

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you. So I started hosting the open mic in Binghamton

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like four or five months in almost by default,

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like nobody else wanted to do it. And I was like,

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fine, I'll do it. Cause I've always been like

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a a natural leader. I was like, screw it, if

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you're not going to get me on your show, then

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I'll just start booking my own shows. Because

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what I've learned, maybe the most important thing

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in comedy I've learned is that nobody can not

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book you on your own show. That's true. That's

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very true. But what I did was like, there were

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a couple of people who were really working hard

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in the Binghamton scene, and I didn't feel like

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they were getting enough. recognition for the

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work they were putting in. So I wanted to promote

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them too. So I would book three or four people.

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I'd go to Ithaca to see people. I'd go to Syracuse

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and Scranton. And I wanted to make sure the,

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in my mind, the underrepresented comedians who

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were working got their due. And then a bar owner

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at Matty B's named Marty Arneson is like, Hey

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man, do you want to do weekly shows here? And

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I was like, yeah. So Then I'm like, OK, I'm constantly

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on the hunt for newer comedians just to add because,

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you know, it happens everywhere. But you make

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friends and then like you only book your friends.

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Yeah. And then eventually it's your it's a disservice.

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No matter how good those comedians are, it's

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a disservice to the audience members like Adam

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Sandler movies. Yeah, but everybody's seen that

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show. Yeah. Yeah, but they're better. Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah. No, I'm not. No, I love those guys.

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Right. But there are lists and they're doing

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the different so it's similar but but The guys

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I saw coming through and getting shows every

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week every two weeks Whatever it was in the same

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room with the same audience. We're telling the

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same jokes and it's Eventually that audience

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is not gonna come back because they're gonna

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they would recite jokes to me via text. Oh, so

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I'm like, okay and So I'm like, let me go to

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Ithaca. Let me find somebody funny there. Let

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me, whatever. And then that kind of tumbled into

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me going off on my own. And because I was working

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with a group for a little bit, then I went off

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on my own and I'm like, screw everybody else.

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I want to do everything my way. And then I started

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finding new venues in different areas because

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I didn't want to oversaturate the one area, Binghamton.

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So yeah, it just. Somebody from Syracuse reached

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out. Hey, you want to do this show somebody from

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Cortland reached out Seneca Lake like all this

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stuff. So it was like a little bit of an avalanche

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and then the pandemic hit and then I had to rebuild

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but at least I had the framework but yeah, it's

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yeah definitely started as a comedian who was

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like hungry for work and I took advantage of

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an apathetic town and scene and said fuck you

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guys if you got I hope I can swear whatever.

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Oh, yeah But I was like fuck you guys if you're

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not gonna put in the work I will and I will benefit

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I Think it's worked. That's awesome. That's great.

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We were on a Christian network Till he just swore

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now. We're gonna get dropped. Thanks Mike. I

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Feel like the Sarah Silverman looking over his

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shoulders will save us so that's a phenomenal

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background I love dude. I absolutely what is

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that? Are those like like canvas prints? Yeah

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Yeah, there it was a pandemic project because

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I told Mike this a little bit ago, but my relationship

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with my last girlfriend went so well that we

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had separate bedrooms. And like she moved out

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and I basically didn't know. No, I knew. Trust

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me. I knew it was a party day. And but I for

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a year I had a guest bedroom there. I bought

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it for OK. Comedians come in. They can have my

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second room. It was used one time by a person

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and it ended up being like a cat room. So like

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the cats would have the bed. It was a ridiculously

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expensive bed for a cat. It was not an expensive

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bed, but for a cat. My cat, one of my favorite

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guys in the world will sleep on a cardboard box.

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So he did not need a queen size bed. But no,

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I took that out and I'm like, all right, I have

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the pandemic money. I was on unemployment. So

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I was getting that bonus check. And I'm like,

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screw it. Let me spend some money. And yeah,

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I bought 63 canvas prints of albums I really

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like. That's awesome. There's offspring smash

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and motion city soundtrack, bad religion. You

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name it. All the albums I grew up with, my favorite

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bands, and a lot of my favorite comedians. And

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I'm like, let me dedicate that. And then I got

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my picture for my podcast on the Mike and Mike

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Peters. I love that, dude. I was like, everybody

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needs one fan, right? Sure. So I might as well

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be me. So I put that up there. So when I record

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my podcast predominantly through Zoom, then I

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at least have something to look at behind me.

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So I figured and I wrote it off. So perfect.

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I told him it reminds me. Remember, we used to

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go to Hot Topic and pick out a T -shirt that

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had all the squares, but much cooler. And I would

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buy all those t -shirts. Except for the Mike

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Peters one. I wouldn't buy the Mike Peters one,

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but I would buy all the other ones. I feel like

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you had that Offspring one. No. You strike me

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as a dude that had that t -shirt. You know what?

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Offspring, so I'm very big obviously into rock

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music, pop punk. I never really got into Offspring.

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I was Blink, I was Green Day, A New Found Glory.

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Slight, I don't want to take too much of a detour.

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But I gotta ask, do you have, either one of you

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guys, do you have any of those 90s band t -shirts

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that you got as a kid in the 90s? Do you have

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any of them still? I do not. I have a couple

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Metallica shirts. Cause those are, we're old

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enough now, that shit is vintage and it's worth

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money. That's pretty, I never thought about that.

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I have, like, unless like they were ruined or

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a girlfriend took them, I have all of my shirts

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from like high school, I can't fit into one of

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them. But I don't wanna, I think I was like 185,

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180 in high school and I am bigger than that

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now. So they're all like saved somewhere. We

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always, I don't throw away my clothes because

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I'm hopeful that I can one day fit into them.

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But like, I have some larges and I'm like, my

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leg will not fit in a larga. So my girlfriend's

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like, you should throw them away. I'm like, you

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should wear them. She's like, I'm not gonna wear

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a bling when they do shirt. Whatever I got nine

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of them. You can hand them down to your cat.

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Here's the thing if you have original band shirts,

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man That's like when grandpa used to collect

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stamps. Yeah, that shit is worth money. It's

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true It's an investment at this point. You're

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gonna be able to buy a house with it You're gonna

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need to be able to buy a house with it, but I

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Have those safe buddy keep my balls in there

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I have a brown cardigan sweater that I bought

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at the Illion Salvation Army. Hell yeah. Back

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in 97. Yep. It was when I had first heard Nirvana.

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The old Sally Anne's. And we went from spandex

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and teased hair and Def Leppard and then overnight

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there's a guy in a cardigan, combat boots and

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long hair screaming at me in Smells Like Teen

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Spirit video and I went out and bought a cardigan

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because I thought that was the coolest thing

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and that's the only thing I have. Still a great

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sweater. And I wear it on Thanksgiving. It became

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my Thanksgiving. But anyway, enough about me.

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Why? This is great. You're our guest, man. So,

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Mike, you went from being in comedy to putting

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comedy together for other folks. What is that

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like for you today? What is your business model?

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Because I see you all over the place doing all

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kinds of things. And what's your plan? My plan

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is basically it's homebrewed comedy is where

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I run everything. So I don't want to stray too

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far from the general ideal, which is promoting

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the local comedians. So every once in a while

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I get somebody from Boston or Connecticut or

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LA. But what I like about my business is that

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the comedian can be from your backyard. Like

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Mike and I did a show in Dryden on Saturday.

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I'm from Binghamton. I am 40 minutes away. Mike

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is, you're from Utica, right? Originally from

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the Mohawk Valley, Utica area. Now I live in

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Ithaca, yeah. So you're what, 25 minutes away

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from the place? Yeah, 25, 30 minutes. Erin Runtowski

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is a phenomenal comedian. She's from, I forget

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where she grew up, but she's lived in LA for

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a long time. She lives in Utica. So like, the

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three of us together drove a combined like, two

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and a half hours, three hours, whatever. And

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we got there and we put on a really good show

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for pretty cheap, $10 tickets. And yeah, we had

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like 50 some people there. And people might poo

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that or whatever, but like we had so much fun.

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People left, we got another show date, Mike branded.

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And that's what it is. It's like, we do a good

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show, we get another show. but like my whole

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thing is I want to I want to show the audience

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that you don't need to go as much as I like the

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clubs you don't need to go to the comedy of the

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Carlson you don't need to go to the Syracuse

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Albany Funny Bones just to see the state theater

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just to see comedians like yeah you have options

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near you for Chibra and these are the people

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who hopefully are going to be ascending to those

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club stages and I work with a lot of people who

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do clubs and theaters and whatever. And that's

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great. But I don't know what I want in the long

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term. But right now, I want to keep being the

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conduit to from like open mics to good shows

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so people can feel like they're not spinning

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their wheels. Like all the work they're putting

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into on the side is going to pay off. with 60

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people who didn't know their name. Like they're

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not. Yeah. Let's take a shot at Mike Brindisi,

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because I like doing that. But who the fuck is

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that guy? Like, sure. But he goes there and oh,

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yeah, I laughed at that one joke. Just the one.

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Just the one. But they'll have a good time because

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somebody they didn't know of until they got there

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made them laugh. And they're like. Oh, wow. There

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is funny. There are funny people here. And I

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really like doing that. So I don't know. Like,

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I think that kind of is my model. That's great.

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Let's promote from within. And I still host open

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mics. And it's a really good spot to grab new

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talent and sure reward people. I try to be as

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humble as possible and say, oh, I'm not rewarding

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you with a show. People, it is. Yeah. You do

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the open mics to get recognized by your peers

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first, and then the audience. I don't know, it's

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fun. And let me just embarrass you in a good

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way for a moment. But coming from my point of

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view, one of the comedians, the thing that's

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amazing about what Mike is doing is that he's

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never strayed from exactly what he was saying.

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Like his original idea was exactly what he explained.

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And fast forward, I don't know, whatever. five,

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six, seven years later that he's been doing it.

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The things that have changed are there's more

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shows, more venues, more comedians, but he has

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not strayed from finding those comedians that

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need a voice and need to get started, but also

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rewarding the comedians that have been on the

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roster. But more importantly, and we talk about

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this all the time, he knows what comedians to

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put with who. when to put them on, where to put

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them on, based on geographically, based on the

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type of crowd, and people overlook that point.

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That's such an important, like when you're a

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promoter and you're booking, that's a key component

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to it that a lot of promoters overlook, and Mike

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puts all of that thought into it, and he spreads

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it around so everybody gets work, but he puts

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you in a position to succeed because he's not

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gonna throw you in front of a crowd that might

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not You might be a darker comedian. You might

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be a dirty comedian. You know what I mean? Sure.

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I think that's a big reason for your success,

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Mike, is because the way you do it is the right

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way. And that's hard to find these days. And

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I will say, most importantly, if you're watching

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and you're a comedian, you never have to worry

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about him not paying you or paying you unfairly.

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It is completely transparent. And that's an important

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part too. Yeah. Yeah. I figured that when I started

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doing shows, we didn't know how to ask for money.

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Like, you're a musician. And so, Mike, you probably

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did local shows with your band to start off.

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So like, when you went in there, did you know

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at first, okay, I should go and ask the bar manager

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or the owner for a budget? Yeah. No, that's the

00:18:00.930 --> 00:18:03.569
thing is you just learn as you go. Yeah. So we

00:18:03.569 --> 00:18:07.170
didn't know that. And in Binghamton, the bar

00:18:07.170 --> 00:18:11.220
we we're doing stuff at first, Matty B's was

00:18:11.220 --> 00:18:15.740
the owner was comedian as well. And it was just

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a place to do shows. We would charge $5 at the

00:18:19.259 --> 00:18:22.900
door asking for money before it didn't even dawn

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on anybody. And at least I know Buffalo right

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now is pretty transparent about the comedian

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saying, okay, if you're gonna do a show, ask

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for at least this much money. We didn't have

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that. So it was just like, hey, Can we do a show

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here? We'll just charge five dollars at the door

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We don't you don't have to pay us anything whereas

00:18:43.519 --> 00:18:48.440
it's fine but as a promoter it puts you in a

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really weird position because I gotta be like

00:18:50.700 --> 00:18:54.339
hey Matt Mike you want to do this show I There's

00:18:54.339 --> 00:18:57.799
no guaranteed money, but it'll be a door split.

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Yeah, and it's five dollars the door so like

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On a good night when you're starting 20 people

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be awesome. Yeah But then you got three or four.

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And at that point we had five or six because

00:19:09.569 --> 00:19:13.009
we didn't have a lot of time to, we didn't have

00:19:13.009 --> 00:19:15.829
many jokes. So you got to build an hour and a

00:19:15.829 --> 00:19:21.250
half show and I can only do 10. So we need to

00:19:21.250 --> 00:19:23.869
find somebody who can do 15 or 20. And then you

00:19:23.869 --> 00:19:26.369
end up having five or six. So that a hundred

00:19:26.369 --> 00:19:29.109
dollars is split now between five or six people.

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And then Mike's coming from an hour away. Josh

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is only 10 minutes away. So does he get left?

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It's weird. So like maybe on a good night, I'm

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paying somebody $20. So in hindsight, like that

00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:44.900
sucks, because now I'm able to ask for money.

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And then maybe it's ticket, maybe what I did,

00:19:48.579 --> 00:19:51.740
and I feel bad about it sometimes, but I put

00:19:51.740 --> 00:19:56.079
out tip jars. And no, that's phenomenal. Here's

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what it is. It's a psychological move, because,

00:19:59.059 --> 00:20:02.960
and I think it's like a DIY thing. for me, but

00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:06.740
like my budget from the bars is still probably

00:20:06.740 --> 00:20:09.119
on the cheap side, but it's guaranteed money.

00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:11.680
It's three, four or 500, whatever it is, but

00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:13.900
it's guaranteed money. So when I asked Mike to

00:20:13.900 --> 00:20:16.599
do a show, I'm like, Hey Mike, you want to do

00:20:16.599 --> 00:20:19.880
a show? It's a hundred dollars plus tips. So

00:20:19.880 --> 00:20:21.559
Mike knows that he's getting a hundred dollars.

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I know that I can pay Mike a hundred dollars

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because I'm getting 300. So like I have that

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money that's guaranteed money unless the of our

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defaults, which almost never happens. But again,

00:20:33.329 --> 00:20:35.029
cause I'm transparent and got a relationship

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with them. But I know that if the show's okay,

00:20:40.549 --> 00:20:43.190
we're probably going to get $30 in tips. So I

00:20:43.190 --> 00:20:46.829
can pay Mike $110 split between three people.

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I can pay Mike 110. So Mike goes away saying,

00:20:49.650 --> 00:20:52.210
shit, man, he told me I was going to get a hundred.

00:20:52.390 --> 00:20:55.950
I got 110. It's not much different, but psychologically.

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Mike knows that not only is he going to get that

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guaranteed money, he's also going to get something

00:21:00.150 --> 00:21:03.430
extra. So it might be worth the further, like

00:21:03.430 --> 00:21:08.089
the farther drive to get. And usually we get

00:21:08.089 --> 00:21:11.710
paid more in tips or whatever because I do free

00:21:11.710 --> 00:21:14.190
shows. I do low ticket options so people feel

00:21:14.190 --> 00:21:17.650
more compelled. Oh, we got a great show for ten

00:21:17.650 --> 00:21:22.190
dollars. Wow. They deserve another ten. I don't

00:21:22.190 --> 00:21:25.210
know, but that makes me look better than I should

00:21:25.210 --> 00:21:28.990
be looking. Yeah, but but it does tell the comedian.

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Hey, man. And then the word spreads. You could

00:21:31.849 --> 00:21:35.589
trust Mike because a lot of bookers don't pay.

00:21:35.769 --> 00:21:39.410
No. Or they're not transparent about what. So.

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Tickets, 25 bucks and hey, Mike, you want to

00:21:42.210 --> 00:21:44.849
show we don't talk money. And then Mike does

00:21:44.849 --> 00:21:48.069
the show and gets paid 25. It's like we had 50

00:21:48.069 --> 00:21:51.849
people there at 25 a pop. Yeah. And I got one

00:21:51.849 --> 00:21:55.480
ticket's worth. It sucks. I don't want to do

00:21:55.480 --> 00:22:00.259
it that way because I am still booking as a comedian.

00:22:01.079 --> 00:22:04.160
So I'm trying so hard to play both ends. Okay.

00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:06.700
I know what I need to make money, but I know

00:22:06.700 --> 00:22:11.380
how it feels to not make enough money. So I never

00:22:11.380 --> 00:22:13.660
want to do that. I think, but that's also perfect

00:22:13.660 --> 00:22:16.440
because what I learned in my time when I've done

00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:20.619
radio in the past is almost every GM of a radio

00:22:20.619 --> 00:22:24.359
station, in small markets and medium markets

00:22:24.359 --> 00:22:28.099
was they always said the best GMs are the ones

00:22:28.099 --> 00:22:30.180
that have been on the air but have also worked

00:22:30.180 --> 00:22:32.400
in sales because they have both perspectives

00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:34.599
and I think that's what you bring to the comedy

00:22:34.599 --> 00:22:36.299
scene is because of what you just said you're

00:22:36.299 --> 00:22:39.799
doing it as a promoter but also as a comedian

00:22:39.799 --> 00:22:43.680
and look here's the deal though when you're when

00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:46.079
you're starting out or even when you're at this

00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:49.240
level if you're doing it for the money then you're

00:22:49.240 --> 00:22:52.079
gonna quit the same day you start you know Yeah,

00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:53.460
you're gonna be very disappointed. You're gonna

00:22:53.460 --> 00:22:56.720
be very disappointed The money for me was always

00:22:56.720 --> 00:22:59.700
like the money will come when I if and when I

00:22:59.700 --> 00:23:02.640
succeed sure I'll just take what I can get for

00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:05.319
now and until I feel it's unfair when it was

00:23:05.319 --> 00:23:08.420
never unfair and Yeah, no, I commend you for

00:23:08.420 --> 00:23:10.980
that man. You've always done it right from the

00:23:10.980 --> 00:23:13.539
start. There was never a hiccup That's what always

00:23:13.539 --> 00:23:17.049
blew my mind about it No, there were hiccups

00:23:17.049 --> 00:23:19.809
for sure. I think when I started working with

00:23:19.809 --> 00:23:23.150
you, it was what 2019 I think I think so. Yes

00:23:23.150 --> 00:23:25.410
before the pandemic before the pandemic I think

00:23:25.410 --> 00:23:27.609
truman's bird was the first show we did together.

00:23:27.849 --> 00:23:30.869
Yep You're right and we had and that was a large

00:23:30.869 --> 00:23:33.609
part because of you, but we had 63 people there

00:23:33.609 --> 00:23:35.430
That was a big show. Yeah, it was a big show

00:23:35.430 --> 00:23:40.049
and I Forget how the ticket breakdown was I forget

00:23:40.049 --> 00:23:42.329
what I paid you but like I know I paid you more

00:23:42.329 --> 00:23:45.839
than what I guaranteed always and yes Always.

00:23:46.039 --> 00:23:50.900
Yeah. And here's a little trick. I very rarely

00:23:50.900 --> 00:23:54.940
like if you're local and we didn't have the people

00:23:54.940 --> 00:23:57.240
to give tips or whatever, maybe I'll pay you

00:23:57.240 --> 00:24:00.980
exactly what I promised. But even if we get zero

00:24:00.980 --> 00:24:03.680
tips, I'll probably throw in five bucks. That's

00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:06.460
amazing. So to just to make it so it feels better

00:24:06.460 --> 00:24:10.319
for me. Like we did a show on Friday and we got

00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:12.539
we had four people on the show, including me.

00:24:12.539 --> 00:24:14.960
We have fifteen dollars of tips, which is like

00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:17.759
weird, but I doubled everybody's tip money. I

00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:19.920
didn't take anything and I doubled everybody's

00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:22.480
tip money. But I'm like, just, I felt better

00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:27.420
about that. But no, I, that's standard that I've

00:24:27.420 --> 00:24:30.180
set for myself. And I'm like, I just want everybody

00:24:30.180 --> 00:24:33.599
to walk away saying, all right, cause no matter

00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:35.980
what you're getting paid, you're like, is it

00:24:35.980 --> 00:24:39.000
worth it? It's an hour and a half away. So if

00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:41.829
I can throw you, that's gas money. Yeah. If I

00:24:41.829 --> 00:24:44.650
could say, okay, here's $10, here's $5, that'll

00:24:44.650 --> 00:24:46.650
help for gas. It was like, oh, it was definitely

00:24:46.650 --> 00:24:50.930
worth it, okay, cool. But see, you're also in

00:24:50.930 --> 00:24:56.390
that weird, you're in this amazing window where

00:24:56.390 --> 00:25:01.349
you have also created, I guess everybody wins

00:25:01.349 --> 00:25:03.869
is what I'm saying. You walk away happy, the

00:25:03.869 --> 00:25:05.809
comedians walk away happy, and the venue walks

00:25:05.809 --> 00:25:08.329
away happy. That is so hard to do, and you do

00:25:08.329 --> 00:25:12.529
that consistently. I agree with that. And also,

00:25:12.630 --> 00:25:14.210
the audience should walk away happy. That's what

00:25:14.210 --> 00:25:17.069
I meant, too. Yeah. Now, obviously, there are

00:25:17.069 --> 00:25:19.589
times where an audience member does not, didn't

00:25:19.589 --> 00:25:21.089
laugh or whatever, just stick in a mug, whatever.

00:25:21.450 --> 00:25:24.269
But for the most part, I think most people are

00:25:24.269 --> 00:25:27.109
happy. We get a lot of repeats, and we could

00:25:27.109 --> 00:25:30.190
do better with ticket sales, and everybody could.

00:25:30.710 --> 00:25:33.670
Or I have a lot of free shows that, like, sometimes

00:25:33.670 --> 00:25:36.930
they're work. We're like, we got 18 people here,

00:25:36.930 --> 00:25:40.150
and that sucks. But those 18 people, I guarantee

00:25:40.150 --> 00:25:42.150
you, most of them have had a really good time

00:25:42.150 --> 00:25:46.970
because what I really enjoy about the comedy

00:25:46.970 --> 00:25:49.470
scene in general around here, at least the people

00:25:49.470 --> 00:25:53.009
I work with, is that they're not, for the most

00:25:53.009 --> 00:25:54.910
part, they're not gonna play down to the numbers

00:25:54.910 --> 00:26:00.490
of the audience. So Mike's not gonna see three

00:26:00.490 --> 00:26:02.329
people in the audience and say, fuck you guys,

00:26:02.390 --> 00:26:05.130
I hate you. Why didn't you bring more people?

00:26:05.450 --> 00:26:06.950
Mike's gonna see those three people and say,

00:26:07.190 --> 00:26:09.089
you know what, thank you so much for taking time

00:26:09.089 --> 00:26:11.700
out of your nights. funny though. That would

00:26:11.700 --> 00:26:13.980
be just walk up and be like, I'll tell you what,

00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:17.279
I think it would be funny to watch. But as a

00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:21.400
producer, I'd be like, those three people are

00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:24.740
the only reason we can do this show. But yet,

00:26:24.980 --> 00:26:28.900
and I know, like in the past, I've had that where

00:26:28.900 --> 00:26:33.220
it was at Barry Daycorn and the summer last year.

00:26:33.420 --> 00:26:37.359
And we had three people. We had the staff. which

00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:39.680
I think was one person. And then we had three

00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:41.859
people who paid, maybe there's another person

00:26:41.859 --> 00:26:46.019
there. And Abdul Hadid, super funny comedian

00:26:46.019 --> 00:26:49.500
in Syracuse, and Dario Joseph, really funny comedian

00:26:49.500 --> 00:26:53.640
in Rochester. They came down and they did their

00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:58.460
entire set, full set, didn't give a shit. And

00:26:58.460 --> 00:27:00.960
I paid them, we didn't make, I made no money

00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:04.680
because the deal I had with Barry Dacorn fell

00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:08.869
apart. and I was doing those shows to do those

00:27:08.869 --> 00:27:13.190
shows. So it was solely on tickets. I paid them

00:27:13.190 --> 00:27:16.430
out of my pocket more money than I promised because

00:27:16.430 --> 00:27:21.650
I was like, you guys killed it for me. And you

00:27:21.650 --> 00:27:23.950
didn't say, screw this show, screw this audience.

00:27:24.309 --> 00:27:26.509
You gave those three people a really good show.

00:27:27.470 --> 00:27:29.789
And hopefully, and I think they did, but hopefully

00:27:29.789 --> 00:27:32.190
they'll come back next time and we can build

00:27:32.190 --> 00:27:35.230
because it just means so much to me. And I feel

00:27:35.230 --> 00:27:39.329
bad too. I want them to have 30 people, not three,

00:27:40.069 --> 00:27:43.549
and have a great experience. But the fact that

00:27:43.549 --> 00:27:48.789
they didn't take the night off was just phenomenal

00:27:48.789 --> 00:27:51.849
to me. For me, that was something that was instilled

00:27:51.849 --> 00:27:54.450
in me at a young age when I started performing.

00:27:54.529 --> 00:27:56.890
Whether it was music or whether it was comedy,

00:27:57.269 --> 00:28:00.519
I was always like, you put on a show. if there's

00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:03.559
three people or 30 ,000 people you put on that

00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:07.480
same show. And it sounds simple, but people overlook

00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:10.299
that. There was definitely shows I've done in

00:28:10.299 --> 00:28:13.279
the past, like in the dead of winter in Owego,

00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:15.920
where there was like five people, but you know

00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:18.359
what, you still, because we've talked about this

00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:21.240
before too. They trudged out too. And we've talked

00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:24.549
about this too. You're also... What's different

00:28:24.549 --> 00:28:27.490
in comedy where in music if you're in a band

00:28:27.490 --> 00:28:30.849
you guys can play? A song in rehearsal and go

00:28:30.849 --> 00:28:33.670
god that sounds like shit And then you rehearse

00:28:33.670 --> 00:28:35.390
and rehearse until you are polished and you're

00:28:35.390 --> 00:28:37.750
like you know what we're ready in Comedy the

00:28:37.750 --> 00:28:40.910
only way for you to rehearse truly is to go out

00:28:40.910 --> 00:28:43.490
and do it So those nights where there's three

00:28:43.490 --> 00:28:46.970
people if you're smart you'll go Maybe I'll stray

00:28:46.970 --> 00:28:49.250
off what I was gonna do and do these five jokes

00:28:49.250 --> 00:28:51.269
that I want to try out like I work a little bit

00:28:51.269 --> 00:28:53.910
It's it actually can work for you in some sure.

00:28:54.069 --> 00:28:57.329
Oh, yeah I always think that the smaller the

00:28:57.329 --> 00:29:00.869
audience the harder the night totally because

00:29:00.869 --> 00:29:04.589
like when you have I'm not gonna say 30 ,000

00:29:04.589 --> 00:29:06.369
I wanted to take off that one like there's no

00:29:06.369 --> 00:29:09.210
fucking way I'm doing that no, but if you have

00:29:09.210 --> 00:29:12.990
a hundred people in the audience and a joke works,

00:29:13.130 --> 00:29:19.019
okay It works. But if you have eight people in

00:29:19.019 --> 00:29:21.779
the audience and a joke works, okay. That means

00:29:21.779 --> 00:29:26.420
one person laughed. Two people. Oh shit. You

00:29:26.420 --> 00:29:29.900
can, you really see how much that joke didn't

00:29:29.900 --> 00:29:34.599
work. Like you can't be fooled. So you have to

00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:36.839
make an intimate connection with these people.

00:29:37.299 --> 00:29:41.299
So I'll do a couple of tricks. If I have a low

00:29:41.299 --> 00:29:43.710
turnout in the audience and Hopefully this doesn't

00:29:43.710 --> 00:29:45.509
happen. So I don't have to do this very often.

00:29:46.450 --> 00:29:48.730
But I'm like, oh, it looks like my eighth birthday

00:29:48.730 --> 00:29:54.150
party. Are we going to put together a model car

00:29:54.150 --> 00:29:57.049
with Steve? Where's Steven Yarrington? Where

00:29:57.049 --> 00:29:59.609
is he? Because that suit showed up at my eighth

00:29:59.609 --> 00:30:02.450
birthday. It was whatever. I wasn't a public

00:30:02.450 --> 00:30:06.130
kid. No, I get it. But I'm like an empty table.

00:30:06.269 --> 00:30:08.130
Oh, I feel like this is going to be my wedding

00:30:08.130 --> 00:30:13.089
where that's. The groom side. Yeah. So there

00:30:13.089 --> 00:30:14.930
are certain ways you can break the tension and

00:30:14.930 --> 00:30:18.950
make that audience know that it's a unique experience

00:30:18.950 --> 00:30:21.670
for them. That's right. Hey, this show is for

00:30:21.670 --> 00:30:23.730
you. So if you go off script, be like, hey, what

00:30:23.730 --> 00:30:25.710
do you guys want to hear? Do you mind if I try

00:30:25.710 --> 00:30:28.049
something new, something like that? So where

00:30:28.049 --> 00:30:31.039
or. do more crowd work. There's a show at the

00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:34.220
Barlacorn where I and I hope I was doing it weekly.

00:30:34.380 --> 00:30:36.539
And I would host it every week. And I'd have

00:30:36.539 --> 00:30:39.579
I try to bring a different 10 to 15 minutes to

00:30:39.579 --> 00:30:41.839
host every single week. And it wouldn't all be

00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:44.240
new. But a lot of it was like done that week

00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:46.480
at the open mic. And when I'm doing it weekly,

00:30:46.579 --> 00:30:48.640
I'm like, if it's good or bad, I got to fucking

00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.759
do it. Yeah. So I bring there and I would there's

00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:54.920
one set where I Somebody dropped off the show.

00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:57.720
I had to do longer time So I remember doing 12

00:30:57.720 --> 00:30:59.480
or 14 minutes of crowd work and I'd never done

00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:03.160
that much and I felt really good Yeah, and like

00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:06.460
I think my set was 25 minutes which for an opener

00:31:06.460 --> 00:31:09.180
probably is too long But we only had we had two

00:31:09.180 --> 00:31:12.740
other people who like weren't expected to do

00:31:12.740 --> 00:31:17.019
Longer, I think I want to say the headliner Dropped

00:31:17.019 --> 00:31:19.539
so we had to do a three -person show. And so

00:31:19.539 --> 00:31:21.819
the last guy was only gonna do 25 minutes anyway

00:31:22.829 --> 00:31:25.190
it was one of my favorite shows there because

00:31:25.190 --> 00:31:28.509
I got to know this audience really well and I

00:31:28.509 --> 00:31:30.190
went off script and did crowd work with people

00:31:30.190 --> 00:31:32.589
who hadn't been there before and it was so much

00:31:32.589 --> 00:31:36.029
fun. So like any show you have has you have the

00:31:36.029 --> 00:31:38.910
opportunity to like make connections and make

00:31:38.910 --> 00:31:43.029
it so much fun for everybody. That's why I will

00:31:43.029 --> 00:31:45.309
try my hardest never to take like a night off.

00:31:45.410 --> 00:31:47.230
Like not I don't want to go to work and be like

00:31:47.230 --> 00:31:49.309
eh it's a fucking paycheck whatever you guys

00:31:49.309 --> 00:31:53.109
want to do. I don't care. Yeah you get He's right

00:31:53.109 --> 00:31:56.630
and then to take that even further like the one

00:31:56.630 --> 00:32:00.230
amazing thing about comedy is It's never the

00:32:00.230 --> 00:32:03.509
same show even if the comedian does exactly the

00:32:03.509 --> 00:32:05.490
same jokes You're gonna get different reactions

00:32:05.490 --> 00:32:08.250
a diff. There's always interaction with the crowd

00:32:08.250 --> 00:32:10.829
You just there's this beautiful thing in comedy

00:32:10.829 --> 00:32:12.650
that and that's why those shows where there's

00:32:12.650 --> 00:32:15.829
only three people is An opportunity always because

00:32:15.829 --> 00:32:18.430
something magical could happen inside that club

00:32:18.700 --> 00:32:21.480
an interaction with somebody that is never gonna

00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:23.880
happen again and never happened before. And I

00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:25.700
actually, I wanna ask you about this. Matt and

00:32:25.700 --> 00:32:28.400
I were talking this past weekend. It was a big

00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:30.599
comedy weekend. Obviously you and I, Mike, we

00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:34.240
had our show March 22nd in Dryden at the Corner

00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:36.420
Brew and that was great. Sunday I went and saw

00:32:36.420 --> 00:32:39.660
Colin Jost at Cornell and it was in Barton Hall,

00:32:39.700 --> 00:32:42.480
which is this giant airplane hangar. It was the

00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:44.720
size of a graduation for thousands of people.

00:32:45.460 --> 00:32:49.599
And two... Was Michael Longfellow from SNL opened

00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:53.339
as well as a woman? I can't remember her name.

00:32:53.339 --> 00:32:57.359
She was on SNL from 22 to 24 and I can't say

00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:01.619
they bombed but it was rough and I was like sweating

00:33:01.619 --> 00:33:04.240
and cringing in my seat because Obviously as

00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:06.859
a comedian when you see other comedians like

00:33:06.859 --> 00:33:09.599
going through it. It's hard Yeah, you feel for

00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:12.779
him and then I had this realization and it's

00:33:12.779 --> 00:33:15.789
the opposite of what we're talking about think

00:33:15.789 --> 00:33:19.250
I think it's like there were so many people and

00:33:19.250 --> 00:33:21.869
you're so disconnected like you can't even see

00:33:21.869 --> 00:33:25.789
them that it's hard it's almost if you took that

00:33:25.789 --> 00:33:28.430
same set but they were in not even a comedy club

00:33:28.430 --> 00:33:32.150
at the barley corn or I just think the jokes

00:33:32.150 --> 00:33:35.190
would have translated better you would have you

00:33:35.190 --> 00:33:37.630
know what I'm saying do you agree with that yeah

00:33:37.630 --> 00:33:40.029
like that setting is probably and I haven't been

00:33:40.029 --> 00:33:43.269
there but it's probably a little more impersonal

00:33:43.269 --> 00:33:48.289
oh god yeah So if you had and also I Don't know.

00:33:48.589 --> 00:33:50.289
I mean if she was on SNL for three years, she's

00:33:50.289 --> 00:33:53.430
obviously known but those people probably went

00:33:53.430 --> 00:33:57.730
there to see Colin Jost. Yes, sure and To him

00:33:57.730 --> 00:34:00.190
like you were in like an opening band for a while.

00:34:00.309 --> 00:34:04.190
Yeah, you probably were like, alright People

00:34:04.190 --> 00:34:05.809
probably talked over your band way more than

00:34:05.809 --> 00:34:09.690
you wanted because what they wanted was the headliner

00:34:09.690 --> 00:34:12.349
and that every comedian goes through it so in

00:34:12.349 --> 00:34:15.880
the those two people from SNL probably are like

00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:18.179
maybe they're not headlining committees yet though

00:34:18.179 --> 00:34:22.900
I imagine they are but like they're just going

00:34:22.900 --> 00:34:24.840
through the motions because fuck man this is

00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:27.159
a hard gig because all they want to see is Jost

00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:29.760
yeah yeah we're gonna eat it for a little bit

00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:33.920
yeah and it college audience is harder Yeah,

00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:36.059
that's the sense at least it was and it was just

00:34:36.059 --> 00:34:38.539
it was so big It just reminded me when you would

00:34:38.539 --> 00:34:41.340
hear big comedians like Kevin Hart and other

00:34:41.340 --> 00:34:43.400
comedians that are like I actually don't like

00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:47.420
doing arenas I Prefer small comedy clubs because

00:34:47.420 --> 00:34:49.780
of that connection. That's just naturally there

00:34:49.780 --> 00:34:52.579
There's a lot of subconscious parts of comedy

00:34:52.579 --> 00:34:55.400
makes sense like we've talked about with ticketing

00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:58.239
and seating like When you sell tickets and you

00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:01.340
provide seating your way to the comedy club or

00:35:01.340 --> 00:35:03.659
on your way to the bar to the comedy show you're

00:35:03.659 --> 00:35:05.739
already subconsciously setting yourself up to

00:35:05.739 --> 00:35:07.719
be open to laugh more because you know you're

00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:10.800
going to a comedy show as opposed to drinking

00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:12.719
at happy hour and then all of a sudden a comedian

00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:15.480
gets on stage and you're like what the fuck like

00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:19.739
the difference with a free show and a ticketed

00:35:19.739 --> 00:35:23.679
show 100 % because you know it's it's like I

00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:26.539
wish I took more psych in college like I took

00:35:27.219 --> 00:35:28.940
family relations just because I have a fucked

00:35:28.940 --> 00:35:32.119
up family and I got a really good got a really

00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.460
good grade in the course and then I took intro

00:35:35.460 --> 00:35:37.340
to psych which was at nine o 'clock in a fucking

00:35:37.340 --> 00:35:39.500
lecture hall so I get nothing out of that stuff

00:35:39.500 --> 00:35:42.199
but nothing can be taught at that hour they're

00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:44.340
trying to keep that secret that's right so dumb

00:35:44.340 --> 00:35:49.099
so also in comfortable chairs yeah what are you

00:35:49.099 --> 00:35:53.179
doing ridiculous yeah but I I think there's so

00:35:53.179 --> 00:35:57.119
much psychological psychology in comedy because

00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:00.480
like when you buy a ticket, like I run don't

00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:03.599
tell shows in Binghamton as well. And their whole

00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:09.400
brand is secret shows in secret locations. Tickets

00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:14.019
are $25. So the shows I'm offering people at

00:36:14.019 --> 00:36:17.380
most are like 10, 15, $20. It's usually in that

00:36:17.380 --> 00:36:20.940
area. But I let the venue decide the pay or what

00:36:20.940 --> 00:36:22.960
the ticket is. So if they want to give me the

00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:26.000
money, to have a free show, they do that. So

00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:29.719
we're all over the spectrum. Don't tell us $25.

00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:32.500
They don't know who's on the show. They don't

00:36:32.500 --> 00:36:35.380
know where the show is until that morning. And

00:36:35.380 --> 00:36:38.559
they get an email. So they're spending $25 to

00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:43.340
laugh. That means they are invested. They don't

00:36:43.340 --> 00:36:46.099
get fucked if Mike Brindisi or Karen Rutowska

00:36:46.099 --> 00:36:48.800
is on the show. What they do is they're paying

00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:53.460
$25 to laugh tonight. Yep. They're an easy audience.

00:36:54.099 --> 00:36:55.980
You still got to win them over, but like they're

00:36:55.980 --> 00:36:58.360
set up for you. When you go to a show at the

00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:02.639
Barley corn, which is $5 donation. I mean, it's

00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:05.639
basically a tip show and with a budget behind

00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:08.719
it, you go to, I have a show beer 30, completely

00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:12.460
free. There is zero expectation for that show

00:37:12.460 --> 00:37:15.619
to be funny. So you have to work so much harder

00:37:15.619 --> 00:37:18.400
in that room because you're also dealing on these

00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:21.090
shows with people at the bar. who don't give

00:37:21.090 --> 00:37:22.969
a fuck that you're there. Just random patrons.

00:37:23.389 --> 00:37:25.349
Who are mad at you because you turned the jukebox

00:37:25.349 --> 00:37:28.869
off. That's right. That's right. Who can't see

00:37:28.869 --> 00:37:31.190
this TV because my banner's in front of it. They

00:37:31.190 --> 00:37:34.050
can't use the, I'm talking about one beer 30,

00:37:34.730 --> 00:37:37.630
that room. They can't use the middle room because,

00:37:37.750 --> 00:37:40.929
oh, there's a show going on there. Yep. So you're

00:37:40.929 --> 00:37:43.889
battling some elements. That's a hard show. Yeah.

00:37:44.289 --> 00:37:47.510
So when you have that set up, you're like, okay,

00:37:47.610 --> 00:37:51.590
that's all on me. Yeah. Your material it's a

00:37:51.590 --> 00:37:54.070
hard room. You either do really well because

00:37:54.070 --> 00:37:57.809
the audience is into it or You think about doing

00:37:57.809 --> 00:38:02.730
something else because the audience I Don't want

00:38:02.730 --> 00:38:06.170
you Like am I doing this am I wasting my time?

00:38:07.150 --> 00:38:10.050
Yeah, I found out about Mike's don't tell comedy

00:38:10.050 --> 00:38:11.929
shows the hard way I showed up for my show and

00:38:11.929 --> 00:38:13.829
I was like, oh my god, there's nobody here yet

00:38:13.829 --> 00:38:16.010
It's a secret show. He's like, nope. Everybody

00:38:16.010 --> 00:38:17.469
knows you're on the bill. There's just fucking

00:38:17.469 --> 00:38:23.840
oh my god No, this is no joke. I completely in

00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:27.500
my head about this stuff. But when I was running

00:38:27.500 --> 00:38:30.559
shows with a group of comedians in Binghamton,

00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:33.780
I would host pretty much every show and then

00:38:33.780 --> 00:38:37.460
we would get five people, eight people, whatever.

00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:40.699
We're still growing. But the minute I was not

00:38:40.699 --> 00:38:43.239
on the flyer and I'm just producing the show,

00:38:43.460 --> 00:38:48.130
we get 60 people. I swear to God, it's the same.

00:38:48.429 --> 00:38:51.849
It happens all the time. To the point where I

00:38:51.849 --> 00:38:55.030
host an open mic every week at Kelly's on Mondays,

00:38:55.050 --> 00:38:59.530
every week, and I host it and we get five people

00:38:59.530 --> 00:39:01.989
in the audience and 10 comedians, whatever it

00:39:01.989 --> 00:39:05.329
is. And I've had a couple of people who are like,

00:39:05.349 --> 00:39:08.070
hey, can I host? And I'm like, yeah, I don't

00:39:08.070 --> 00:39:11.000
announce their hosting, but... They'll host,

00:39:11.260 --> 00:39:13.420
they'll guest host for me. And we'll get 30 people

00:39:13.420 --> 00:39:17.460
in the audience and 15 comedians. I'm like, what

00:39:17.460 --> 00:39:21.460
the fuck, man? People sense that I'm not hosting.

00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:23.760
And they're like, you know what? We're going

00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:27.619
tonight. And I'm like, it feels like a conspiracy.

00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:30.800
Do you just not like me? And that's happened

00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:35.179
for nine years. That's the worst. Before we move

00:39:35.179 --> 00:39:37.860
on, I'm hijacking the interview, I apologize.

00:39:37.900 --> 00:39:40.980
No, no, we're good. Got you just reminded me

00:39:40.980 --> 00:39:44.199
of a show that Mike and I did I tell this story

00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:47.920
all the time remember when we did What the hell

00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:52.159
was the name of that? With the wedding party

00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:56.119
yes the bachelor party what dude Rhythm and boo

00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:58.760
rhythm and booze the F &A rhythm and waterloo

00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:02.840
it was the name of the bar yeah Yeah, do you

00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:05.579
want to tell that that story all right, so this

00:40:05.579 --> 00:40:09.940
is a so we go there and This is the third show

00:40:09.940 --> 00:40:12.920
I've done there, second or third. The room is

00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:17.780
really, it has potential. Yes, nice stage. Yes,

00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:20.820
it's a beautiful stage. And then they set up

00:40:20.820 --> 00:40:23.860
like 30 chairs in the middle of the room. Like

00:40:23.860 --> 00:40:26.539
the first two shows, this is what happened. They

00:40:26.539 --> 00:40:29.139
set up 30 chairs so everybody can watch. Nobody

00:40:29.139 --> 00:40:31.840
comes over and watches because like they're all

00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:33.900
hanging out at the bar, which is on a different

00:40:33.900 --> 00:40:37.539
level. But like to, if you're on the stage, they're

00:40:37.539 --> 00:40:43.559
to your right. Yeah, so like you can see the

00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:46.000
people they can see you but like you can't really

00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:48.900
interact with them because they're Technically

00:40:48.900 --> 00:40:51.860
in a separate room. Sure. There's a railing and

00:40:51.860 --> 00:40:55.699
a stairwell so separating you but and then a

00:40:55.699 --> 00:40:58.780
couple people will be sitting far at the end

00:40:58.780 --> 00:41:03.460
and like I'm folding tables with Alright, so

00:41:03.460 --> 00:41:08.260
this whole 30 chair setup is beautiful, but It's

00:41:08.260 --> 00:41:12.340
useless. So the third show we do there was me,

00:41:12.539 --> 00:41:15.019
Mike Brandisi, and Zach Hamman from Pennsylvania.

00:41:15.219 --> 00:41:20.219
Which he crushed. Yeah. Crushed. Yes. But here's

00:41:20.219 --> 00:41:25.539
why he crushed. So I'm almost excited because

00:41:25.539 --> 00:41:28.280
the owners, hey, we've got a large party coming

00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:30.559
in here for the show. And I'm like, sweet. And

00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:32.179
she's like, it's a bachelor party. And I'm like,

00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:36.210
not sweet. So I'd never done a bachelor party

00:41:36.210 --> 00:41:40.130
before and I was like, I've heard stories that

00:41:40.130 --> 00:41:43.570
they're the worst. So I think the last weekend,

00:41:43.869 --> 00:41:46.230
like the weekend before that, I had done like

00:41:46.230 --> 00:41:49.769
a set at Wisecrackers Comedy Club and Scranton

00:41:49.769 --> 00:41:52.409
and I killed. So I'm like, sweet, I'm gonna take

00:41:52.409 --> 00:41:55.349
this. It was gonna go well. It's basically a

00:41:55.349 --> 00:41:58.989
lot of what my feature set is now. It's pretty

00:41:58.989 --> 00:42:04.989
strong. The success rate is strong. I go there.

00:42:05.489 --> 00:42:09.530
They hate me. So there's 19 people in this wedding

00:42:09.530 --> 00:42:14.030
party and they don't care. They're all at the

00:42:14.030 --> 00:42:16.730
very end of the room and at the folding table

00:42:16.730 --> 00:42:21.010
and everything eating. And the one person from

00:42:21.010 --> 00:42:24.269
that 19 person party came up to sit with us.

00:42:24.469 --> 00:42:27.769
It was the mom of the bride sat right in the

00:42:27.769 --> 00:42:30.289
front. And then we had like maybe three or four

00:42:30.289 --> 00:42:33.409
other people sitting to watch. And then there

00:42:33.409 --> 00:42:36.150
were like five or six people on the side at the

00:42:36.150 --> 00:42:41.070
bar listening. And I do a little bit of crowd

00:42:41.070 --> 00:42:43.909
work and they like it because it involves them.

00:42:45.429 --> 00:42:48.409
The minute I stepped away and did material, they

00:42:48.409 --> 00:42:54.110
didn't give a shit. I think one of the first

00:42:54.110 --> 00:42:56.489
things I said was like, I forget what the punchline

00:42:56.489 --> 00:43:00.969
was, but I said, fuck. And the mom who's like,

00:43:00.989 --> 00:43:02.929
in the first row she goes she covers your ears

00:43:02.929 --> 00:43:08.570
and goes I said what she goes that word I go

00:43:08.570 --> 00:43:12.110
you're in for a lot of those yeah I said we got

00:43:12.110 --> 00:43:15.110
90 minutes left it's really like my second joke

00:43:15.110 --> 00:43:19.969
and I was like all right cool at one point I

00:43:19.969 --> 00:43:22.849
think I'm probably like 15 minutes in for something

00:43:22.849 --> 00:43:25.690
like that somebody from the back yells when is

00:43:25.690 --> 00:43:31.539
the next guy coming on And I said in four minutes

00:43:31.539 --> 00:43:36.440
And I introduced Mike Mike didn't do it you could

00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:39.659
tell it but Mike didn't do much better No, they

00:43:39.659 --> 00:43:42.179
all left. Let me tell you from my now from my

00:43:42.179 --> 00:43:44.719
point of view right before Mike's about to go

00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:46.760
on I can tell he's nervous and he's never nervous

00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:51.079
and he's just we got this bachelorette party

00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:54.880
and I go This is gonna end to one of two ways.

00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:59.179
It's either gonna be fucking epic or awful and

00:43:59.179 --> 00:44:03.320
so Mike gets up there and as he said about 15

00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:06.820
minutes in it's falling apart and I turned to

00:44:06.820 --> 00:44:08.940
the other guy the headliner and I go you know

00:44:08.940 --> 00:44:10.980
what though I go Mike always keeps his composure

00:44:10.980 --> 00:44:14.820
like it'll be fine Mike fucking lost his composure

00:44:14.820 --> 00:44:17.719
he ended up being like fuck you guys and they

00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.239
did not say that not fuck you guys but basically

00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:22.840
and they ended up like leaving by the time I

00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:25.659
got on stage and I was like I've never seen an

00:44:25.659 --> 00:44:29.590
MC Clear out like usually the opener cleans out

00:44:29.590 --> 00:44:33.190
the room. No, you remember this wrong So I did

00:44:33.190 --> 00:44:36.610
not say fuck you guys I think I was polite but

00:44:36.610 --> 00:44:39.190
Mike gets on stage and he does his material and

00:44:39.190 --> 00:44:41.369
three or four minutes into your act they left

00:44:41.369 --> 00:44:44.329
That's what it was. So I'll take listen. Give

00:44:44.329 --> 00:44:47.590
me the assist. Okay, I'll take Yeah, it was it

00:44:47.590 --> 00:44:50.289
was a group effort, but do they that that made

00:44:50.289 --> 00:44:52.630
me feel a little better. They're like, okay,

00:44:52.750 --> 00:44:55.889
they didn't I would cried probably if they all

00:44:55.889 --> 00:44:58.789
left during my set, but not that they liked me

00:44:58.789 --> 00:45:02.429
anymore. Well, I was like, okay. And then Zach,

00:45:02.570 --> 00:45:06.449
like Mike does his time and we had fun. Yeah.

00:45:06.469 --> 00:45:09.269
And then the headliner, Zach gets there and he's

00:45:09.269 --> 00:45:12.269
basically calling them every name he can. And

00:45:12.269 --> 00:45:17.809
the people on the bar side loved it because they

00:45:17.809 --> 00:45:20.010
all hated them because they made noise. They

00:45:20.010 --> 00:45:22.739
weren't there for that yet. Yeah. They talked

00:45:22.739 --> 00:45:25.039
to the show. They're rude. They were probably

00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:28.400
demanding up stop up top at the bar and they

00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:31.059
were just happy to have them out so like if I

00:45:31.059 --> 00:45:33.699
didn't think about this, but The staff was probably

00:45:33.699 --> 00:45:35.760
part of the people who were cheering. Yeah first

00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:40.699
back Yeah, no and Zack who's amazing by the way.

00:45:40.860 --> 00:45:43.800
He like started with his material, which is fantastic

00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:46.719
Then he just went like he said he just went off

00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:51.119
script and just fucking lambasted. Yeah Bachelorette

00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:53.460
parties and that bachelorette party and it was

00:45:53.460 --> 00:45:56.119
like But I just remember being up there doing

00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:59.300
my time and it was like me There was one person

00:45:59.300 --> 00:46:02.139
in the seat and then another guy Who I feel like

00:46:02.139 --> 00:46:03.920
he had a disability like he was in a wheelchair

00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:06.219
or something and he's just looking at me He couldn't

00:46:06.219 --> 00:46:09.389
leave he was Below where the steps are that's

00:46:09.389 --> 00:46:11.530
really couldn't leave because he was disabled

00:46:11.530 --> 00:46:13.630
like he couldn't get up the steps without help

00:46:13.630 --> 00:46:17.230
and There was nobody else and I remember his

00:46:17.230 --> 00:46:19.909
what they call a captivated audience. Yeah This

00:46:19.909 --> 00:46:21.949
look on his face. I put a stick in his spokes

00:46:21.949 --> 00:46:25.130
I'll never forget this though. I get up there.

00:46:25.289 --> 00:46:27.809
I'm about five minutes in they leave I look around

00:46:27.809 --> 00:46:30.190
it's me and this disabled guy and one other person

00:46:30.190 --> 00:46:32.869
and Mike and the other comedian and I just remember

00:46:32.869 --> 00:46:35.769
the guys look on his face like he kept looking

00:46:35.769 --> 00:46:39.019
around and His jaw was dropped like he just couldn't

00:46:39.019 --> 00:46:41.719
believe what he saw. He could not believe the

00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:45.199
epic fucking Disaster that he had just witnessed.

00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:48.719
Oh, it's incredible But Mike you got paid didn't

00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:55.719
you I did I did I did I got paid amazing That

00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:59.340
was the last show we did there Yo And it was

00:46:59.340 --> 00:47:00.800
one of those things where like my girlfriend

00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:03.860
because we had two shows there and I think that

00:47:03.860 --> 00:47:06.219
first show was okay and the second was or the

00:47:06.219 --> 00:47:09.440
other way around and the second show is better,

00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:12.420
but It was one of those things or so if they

00:47:12.420 --> 00:47:14.519
asked me to do another show I'll do it because

00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:16.800
I didn't have I had room on the calendar sure

00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:20.719
and I will do anything for money And like I wanted

00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:24.250
I want to give somebody stage time. So I'll take

00:47:24.250 --> 00:47:27.130
it and yeah, she just never asked me again. So

00:47:27.130 --> 00:47:28.949
I'm like, all right, cool Because it didn't work

00:47:28.949 --> 00:47:32.469
and it's a music venue for sure and we tried

00:47:32.469 --> 00:47:36.190
but it was called FNA Rhythm and Booth and now

00:47:36.190 --> 00:47:38.909
you know what? That's right. Yeah, and I walked

00:47:38.909 --> 00:47:43.050
out going fucking hey Man, there was a lot. There

00:47:43.050 --> 00:47:45.829
was no rhythm truth and advertising. Yeah I've

00:47:45.829 --> 00:47:47.769
had to drive past that like through Waterloo

00:47:47.769 --> 00:47:51.329
to get places and I'm like, oh Yeah, that place.

00:47:51.409 --> 00:47:54.030
Okay, never going back. Yeah, that's wild. That's

00:47:54.030 --> 00:47:56.429
what it was really nice though Yeah kids speak

00:47:56.429 --> 00:47:58.429
enough about her staff was great. You know, she

00:47:58.429 --> 00:48:01.150
tried but yeah, she tried and that's the thing

00:48:01.150 --> 00:48:02.909
Sometimes comedy just doesn't work somewhere.

00:48:03.329 --> 00:48:05.849
Yeah. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Take the

00:48:05.849 --> 00:48:09.510
L Let's talk about where it does work Mike Where

00:48:09.510 --> 00:48:12.230
are your next coming shows where folks can see

00:48:12.230 --> 00:48:16.269
you and your band of local funnies? My probably

00:48:16.269 --> 00:48:19.849
favorite place right now is a place in McGraw

00:48:19.980 --> 00:48:25.019
Which McGraw New York is McGraw. They it's the

00:48:25.019 --> 00:48:27.199
McGraw Box Brewing Company. I do actually I do

00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:31.059
a show in Syracuse every month. North Syracuse.

00:48:31.219 --> 00:48:33.920
That's like the second Friday of the month. And

00:48:33.920 --> 00:48:35.440
we've got really good comedians coming through

00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:37.760
there. But what's the menu? Yeah. Where's that

00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:42.000
one? It's McGraw Box Brewing Company. It's it's

00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:45.280
fancy. It's behind the Mr. Tire. Oh, it's yeah.

00:48:45.869 --> 00:48:47.670
You've heard of it. There's a Taco Bell across

00:48:47.670 --> 00:48:50.469
the street. It's like on Brewerton Road. OK.

00:48:50.550 --> 00:48:54.849
So it's I think they opened the first show we

00:48:54.849 --> 00:48:57.170
did was April 12th last year. And I think they

00:48:57.170 --> 00:49:01.289
opened in like February or March. So there were

00:49:01.289 --> 00:49:05.010
it's fun. It takes like 10 bucks. Plus you get

00:49:05.010 --> 00:49:08.489
a beer with a drink or with a ticket. And it'd

00:49:08.489 --> 00:49:10.510
be great if you got a beer with a drink. Yeah.

00:49:10.849 --> 00:49:12.670
It's a promotion. Order a drink. Get a beer.

00:49:12.849 --> 00:49:16.599
Yeah. But. Those shows are fun, but yeah, I do

00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:20.239
a show. This week I got a show Beer 30 on Thursday

00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:25.539
in Binghamton. But we always end the month at

00:49:25.539 --> 00:49:28.860
McGraw Box in McGraw near Corland. And that's

00:49:28.860 --> 00:49:30.860
so much fun. I got a comedian from New York City

00:49:30.860 --> 00:49:35.260
coming up, Will Papura. Yeah. He's very good.

00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:38.320
And then I have RJ Papura from Rochester. That's

00:49:38.320 --> 00:49:40.659
what I was thinking of. Yeah. But I'm like, oh,

00:49:40.659 --> 00:49:43.599
this will be fun. So I asked RJ Papura. I'm like,

00:49:43.619 --> 00:49:45.829
hey. Like I got two dates for you. Do you want

00:49:45.829 --> 00:49:48.929
to work with? Cindy arena are they already knows

00:49:48.929 --> 00:49:53.150
no, he doesn't know oh And I'm like or you can

00:49:53.150 --> 00:49:55.849
work with will perpura Because I've seen the

00:49:55.849 --> 00:49:58.150
name let me work with will we'll see if we're

00:49:58.150 --> 00:50:01.929
related so We might have a reunion. It'd be great

00:50:01.929 --> 00:50:03.989
if they show up in their identical. That'd be

00:50:03.989 --> 00:50:07.230
sick Now they do look different, but I don't

00:50:07.230 --> 00:50:10.170
know how many like a matching birthmark or something

00:50:10.170 --> 00:50:16.099
Yeah, or like A scar. They were caught at birth.

00:50:16.260 --> 00:50:18.840
He's like, you got my dad's nose. Wait a minute.

00:50:19.420 --> 00:50:22.360
I actually saw RJ. It is a pretty common name.

00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:27.000
I did a show with RJ at the John Barley corn.

00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:29.739
Probably, yeah. And he dug himself into a hole

00:50:29.739 --> 00:50:34.440
with a racist joke. Not a racist joke, a joke

00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:38.309
about race. Some girl in the crowd started yelling

00:50:38.309 --> 00:50:41.309
at him and then but he recovered brilliantly,

00:50:41.309 --> 00:50:44.710
but that was a wild night He's R. J. Purpura

00:50:44.710 --> 00:50:48.690
R. J. Purpura has my favorite jokes because he's

00:50:48.690 --> 00:50:56.070
talking about a home robbery and He's like there's

00:50:56.070 --> 00:51:01.929
a story about this woman who had Like her kid

00:51:01.929 --> 00:51:06.639
died and she had... Hilarious. I've heard this

00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:09.380
so many times. I think it was a miscarriage.

00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:15.880
Oh. Or something like that. And she had in an

00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:21.300
urn his remains. Sure. And then that was stolen

00:51:21.300 --> 00:51:24.639
from the house. I guess I just don't understand

00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:27.679
crime at this point. You couldn't think of anything

00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:32.340
more valuable to take? And he's like, you guys...

00:51:32.780 --> 00:51:35.679
I guess if you lose the same kid twice, you're

00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:41.559
not meant to have a kid. But he wraps around

00:51:41.559 --> 00:51:45.659
his whole set. So if that joke goes well, and

00:51:45.659 --> 00:51:48.719
it doesn't always, if it goes well, because it's

00:51:48.719 --> 00:51:51.380
fucking dark. And if it doesn't, when it's told,

00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:54.860
it's even better. But he comes around at the

00:51:54.860 --> 00:51:57.599
end of the set and he goes, it's a joke about

00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:01.239
ghosts or whatever, he goes. I guess baby Travis

00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:05.199
needs still needs a home And like when they get

00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:07.500
it if he has an audience that's on to him call

00:52:07.500 --> 00:52:09.960
back. Oh my god It's a great callback. Yeah,

00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:12.360
so it's one of my favorite jokes I'll listen

00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:13.880
to it again so I could tell it better the next

00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:17.659
time but He's but that's kind of him. He doesn't

00:52:17.659 --> 00:52:21.480
really deviate his style too much. I He's he's

00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:23.519
a very good writer. I had a callback joke. I

00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:26.130
tried it three times and it never worked And

00:52:26.130 --> 00:52:28.110
it was like, in the beginning of the set, I would

00:52:28.110 --> 00:52:31.909
just brush over. Yeah, I just recently went and

00:52:31.909 --> 00:52:34.150
visited my grandfather. We found out he has Alzheimer's.

00:52:34.150 --> 00:52:37.070
So I'm just, I'm just worried what's genetic.

00:52:37.070 --> 00:52:39.130
So I'm just hoping it doesn't affect me. Then

00:52:39.130 --> 00:52:41.289
at the end of the set, there's like a break and

00:52:41.289 --> 00:52:43.349
it's quiet. And I go, yeah, I just went and visited

00:52:43.349 --> 00:52:45.750
my grandfather. He's got Alzheimer's. I just

00:52:45.750 --> 00:52:48.170
hope he does it. I thought it was good, but it

00:52:48.170 --> 00:52:52.110
bombed three times. Nobody got it. So. You're

00:52:52.110 --> 00:52:54.929
right if you if you hit a car if you hit a callback

00:52:54.929 --> 00:52:58.150
man, that's a bad Just walk off the stage. Yeah,

00:52:58.190 --> 00:53:01.010
tell you what will Phillips this weekend. Oh,

00:53:01.030 --> 00:53:03.469
well, he's the man I don't like will at all.

00:53:04.050 --> 00:53:06.730
Yeah No, well will is one of my favorites. I

00:53:06.730 --> 00:53:10.690
love watching him work. He's amazing But I just

00:53:10.690 --> 00:53:13.690
saw him on Sunday. He came down to we go we hung

00:53:13.690 --> 00:53:17.730
out for a little bit. I Love watching him. Yeah,

00:53:18.409 --> 00:53:22.170
he is Since I've started he's been one of my

00:53:22.170 --> 00:53:24.010
favorite local comedians. I used to see him in

00:53:24.010 --> 00:53:28.309
Syracuse a lot. He's so good. I Just he's performance

00:53:28.309 --> 00:53:33.969
wise. He's great. I Wish he did live around here

00:53:33.969 --> 00:53:37.469
so he can be bigger. Yeah, because I think he's

00:53:37.469 --> 00:53:40.849
that good. Yeah. No, he's phenomenal What's the

00:53:40.849 --> 00:53:42.289
word? What are you gonna say about? What are

00:53:42.289 --> 00:53:44.030
you gonna say about him? No, I was just gonna

00:53:44.030 --> 00:53:45.730
we were talking callbacks and I was just saying

00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:48.079
This past weekend, I saw him on Friday night

00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:51.460
and he did a great set and he just masters that

00:53:51.460 --> 00:53:53.559
callback at the end and it's perfect. He opened

00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:56.659
for Ryan Neemiller from AGT. It was Phil's, Phil

00:53:56.659 --> 00:54:00.579
Fardish show. So Ryan's real good. Where can

00:54:00.579 --> 00:54:03.539
we check out all your info? I know, but I'm just

00:54:03.539 --> 00:54:05.820
making you say it. Where do you go? Homebrewcomedy

00:54:05.820 --> 00:54:07.920
.com. That's how this works, Mike. This isn't

00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:10.639
his first podcast. I had a feeling. Yeah, everything

00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:14.420
I do is at homebrewcomedy .com or... My personal

00:54:14.420 --> 00:54:17.039
Facebook page is where I put a lot of my content.

00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:19.980
Any jokes I write, I usually try it on Facebook

00:54:19.980 --> 00:54:23.039
first. And then when 13 people are like, yeah,

00:54:23.300 --> 00:54:25.360
we're going to do this on sympathy, I'm like,

00:54:25.420 --> 00:54:31.239
cool, I'll try it on stage. But I do shows all,

00:54:31.539 --> 00:54:34.639
just search on Facebook for Humber comedy. And

00:54:34.639 --> 00:54:37.420
you can follow, I don't know how many venues

00:54:37.420 --> 00:54:40.960
I have. It fluctuates between like 12 and 20

00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:44.780
usually. But for the most part, I'm doing like

00:54:44.780 --> 00:54:48.460
14, 15, 16 shows a month around upstate New York

00:54:48.460 --> 00:54:50.280
for the most part, dipping into Pennsylvania

00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:51.940
a little bit. That's incredible. And I'm always

00:54:51.940 --> 00:54:57.139
trying to expand. Go ahead. I got a podcast on

00:54:57.139 --> 00:54:58.780
the mic with Mike Peters. So that comes out every

00:54:58.780 --> 00:55:00.239
Friday. That was the one thing I was going to...

00:55:00.239 --> 00:55:02.340
Yeah, on the mic with Mike Peters is his podcast

00:55:02.340 --> 00:55:05.360
as well, homebrewedcomedy .com. I always forget

00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:08.179
to ask you this. What is your, quote unquote,

00:55:08.500 --> 00:55:10.650
roster? What's the number? Where are you at?

00:55:10.710 --> 00:55:13.170
And I feel like you started small and I went

00:55:13.170 --> 00:55:14.429
to the website the other day. I was like, holy

00:55:14.429 --> 00:55:17.489
shit. Oh, yeah. I have to update that, too. But

00:55:17.489 --> 00:55:19.730
because I tried Indians or venues. Oh, yeah.

00:55:19.730 --> 00:55:23.989
Sorry. So on my website, there's a section for

00:55:23.989 --> 00:55:28.150
comedians. And what I've done with that and I

00:55:28.150 --> 00:55:30.389
probably am like 100 short of what I need to

00:55:30.389 --> 00:55:34.489
be there because I keep adding. I just looked

00:55:34.489 --> 00:55:38.690
today. In just before and I have booked 281 comedians.

00:55:38.949 --> 00:55:42.429
That's wow. I thought it was like 80 to 100.

00:55:42.469 --> 00:55:47.349
I've been saying well shit Regular comedians.

00:55:47.389 --> 00:55:51.610
Yeah, some of these some of it's a little elevated

00:55:51.610 --> 00:55:55.929
because I did zoom shows over the pandemic. Uh

00:55:55.929 --> 00:56:00.190
-huh. So my podcast What I did for a little bit

00:56:00.190 --> 00:56:03.789
was like I had a patreon thing and I did shows

00:56:03.789 --> 00:56:06.940
every other weekend So in order to do the show,

00:56:07.059 --> 00:56:10.820
you had to have been on the podcast. So I would

00:56:10.820 --> 00:56:15.360
have a guy from Idaho or Oregon, whatever, or

00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:18.500
Utah, whatever. So they're people I've booked

00:56:18.500 --> 00:56:20.340
because I've had them, it was easier to do it

00:56:20.340 --> 00:56:24.079
online. So all of those guys aren't on the website,

00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:27.920
but I would say I probably rotate through about

00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:31.460
80 to 100 throughout the year. I probably will

00:56:31.460 --> 00:56:35.949
book about 100 comedians every year. not unique

00:56:35.949 --> 00:56:41.670
so sure it won't add to my total but 281 is from

00:56:41.670 --> 00:56:45.130
the last nine years so yeah I would say that's

00:56:45.130 --> 00:56:47.050
why I tell every venue I'm like every show you

00:56:47.050 --> 00:56:49.489
get if we do monthly it's gonna be different

00:56:49.489 --> 00:56:52.090
yeah I'm gonna be the only one who repeats because

00:56:52.090 --> 00:56:54.949
I host all the shows but even then I'll have

00:56:54.949 --> 00:56:57.489
different material so you're not gonna get the

00:56:57.489 --> 00:57:00.670
same show at all and I'm just fortunate that

00:57:00.670 --> 00:57:04.550
around this area there's Buffalo, Rochester,

00:57:04.869 --> 00:57:08.730
Syracuse, Ithaca, Cortland, Elmira, Scranton,

00:57:08.989 --> 00:57:11.469
Lewisburg, Pennsylvania. There's so many pockets,

00:57:12.289 --> 00:57:14.409
Binghamton obviously, but there's so many pockets

00:57:14.409 --> 00:57:17.389
of comedians who are working hard that I can

00:57:17.389 --> 00:57:20.449
keep adding to that roster. And I have goals

00:57:20.449 --> 00:57:25.449
every year. I wanna always book 30 new to me

00:57:25.449 --> 00:57:29.110
comedians. So I can get them on stage, I can

00:57:29.110 --> 00:57:31.840
add some numbers thing. for me too. But it also

00:57:31.840 --> 00:57:35.400
makes sure that I keep going to open mics. I

00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:38.059
keep looking for new talent because I owe that

00:57:38.059 --> 00:57:41.300
to the audience and the venues who have us because

00:57:41.300 --> 00:57:44.019
I don't want anything to get stale. And again,

00:57:44.460 --> 00:57:47.099
I want to promote from within. So if you guys

00:57:47.099 --> 00:57:50.400
are working hard, there are comedians in Ithaca

00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:53.119
right now who like probably I should be trying

00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:56.449
to get more work. We had Kenny on recently. Yeah,

00:57:56.449 --> 00:57:58.389
he's not one of them. I don't like him either.

00:57:58.550 --> 00:58:00.230
Why don't you guys have any comedians? I like

00:58:00.230 --> 00:58:03.889
I like any lot and that I get along with pretty

00:58:03.889 --> 00:58:08.349
much everybody That helps but no, I don't know.

00:58:08.610 --> 00:58:11.710
It's fun for me. And yeah on the website you

00:58:11.710 --> 00:58:15.630
can see like Their bios that I use for the posters

00:58:15.630 --> 00:58:17.469
and everything. Usually it's submitted by them,

00:58:17.469 --> 00:58:19.969
but I read a lot of them But yeah, I need to

00:58:19.969 --> 00:58:24.739
go back and basically take a day like, okay I

00:58:24.739 --> 00:58:26.480
got to add this guy. I got to add this woman

00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:30.059
a lot. Yeah, it is. But I think like that for

00:58:30.059 --> 00:58:32.519
me is like a kind of a nice touch because I had

00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:35.659
one guy from New York City, Ryan Garcia. He worked

00:58:35.659 --> 00:58:38.639
in Rochester. He goes, he says I haven't talked

00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:41.420
to him in maybe a year since he moved. And he

00:58:41.420 --> 00:58:43.260
sent me a message a few months ago. He goes,

00:58:43.380 --> 00:58:45.880
Hey, man, I just got to thank you. I go, why?

00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:50.119
He goes, because I think it was an aunt or some

00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:54.719
relative. Yeah. She Googled my name. and she

00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:59.400
saw me like my bio on your website and that made

00:58:59.400 --> 00:59:02.599
me legit to her. Wow. So I'm like, all right,

00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:05.320
cool. Cool. It's kind of a cool thing. I didn't

00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:06.480
think what happened, but I wasn't sure where

00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:10.019
that story was going. Yeah, I know. Yeah. I got

00:59:10.019 --> 00:59:15.219
to say it's number family. But we're add to it.

00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:17.239
One thing I want to say before we go, I know

00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:20.500
we're wrapping up. Mike did something that I

00:59:20.500 --> 00:59:22.119
think you would appreciate. One of my favorite

00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:27.369
shows I ever did is He did his own funeral where

00:59:27.369 --> 00:59:30.969
he was. I didn't do it. Hold on. Oh, it wasn't

00:59:30.969 --> 00:59:33.269
you. It was thrown for me. I keep fucking up

00:59:33.269 --> 00:59:36.150
all the stories you tell. I'm not that egotistical.

00:59:36.789 --> 00:59:40.710
That's true. I am. It was Stephen Brown. Stephen

00:59:40.710 --> 00:59:43.070
Brown and my girlfriend, Sasha Ernest, they it

00:59:43.070 --> 00:59:46.349
was as I believe it was Sasha's idea. We've been

00:59:46.349 --> 00:59:49.489
dating for about two years at the time, maybe

00:59:49.489 --> 00:59:53.699
a year and change, but. Yeah, for my 39th birthday,

00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:57.960
they decided to throw a funeral for me at the

00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:00.420
barley corner we go and it was like they picked

01:00:00.420 --> 01:00:03.599
a Saturday Yeah, it's that's where you go place.

01:00:03.639 --> 01:00:06.860
Yeah. Yeah, and that's where every funeral is

01:00:06.860 --> 01:00:09.480
all the time So now they threw a funeral for

01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:11.840
me and they invited it was really touching they

01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:16.639
invited like 23 24 comedians came down from out

01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:21.179
of state upstate and Basically roasted me for

01:00:21.179 --> 01:00:23.380
about an hour and 45 minutes then I went up and

01:00:23.380 --> 01:00:26.760
roasted all them. Yeah for a few minutes It was

01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:31.940
so much fun and I Had to go and grab a new suit

01:00:31.940 --> 01:00:37.139
because my other one shrank or whatever and So

01:00:37.139 --> 01:00:40.480
I stood up there for two hours basically listening

01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:44.880
to Who I thought were my friends Make fun of

01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:47.260
me, but it was really nice because like I don't

01:00:47.260 --> 01:00:49.780
see Brindisi all that often. I don't see Like,

01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:53.719
RJ Purpura came down from Rochester to see it.

01:00:53.860 --> 01:00:55.920
I had people come up from Scranton. I even wore

01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:58.559
a suit. I wore a smile. I know. I know. They

01:00:58.559 --> 01:01:03.280
all dressed up, for the most part. And it was...

01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:05.380
And, Matt, I don't know how familiar you are

01:01:05.380 --> 01:01:08.460
with, like, local comedians, but, like, these

01:01:08.460 --> 01:01:10.860
guys don't do anything unless you pay them. Right.

01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:15.780
Or if it's about themselves. And for one day...

01:01:15.780 --> 01:01:18.820
It's required effort. Yeah. For one day, I felt...

01:01:18.619 --> 01:01:25.599
Wow, these guys actually like me. And they the

01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:27.340
tip jobs are passed around and they're like,

01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:30.239
yeah, this is all for you. And I'm like, what?

01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:33.000
Why? I felt like I had to Venmo everybody after.

01:01:33.539 --> 01:01:35.480
Hey, I'm sorry. I'm sorry you had to do this.

01:01:35.500 --> 01:01:37.619
And no, it was just and we all did it really

01:01:37.619 --> 01:01:39.880
tough. We did it for free because we love them.

01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:43.559
And who doesn't love a good old fashioned roast?

01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:47.079
It was. It was honestly one of the most fun sets

01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:49.599
I ever wrote. In my life, I just it was so much

01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:52.300
fun. The whole thing is on YouTube. Oh, I know

01:01:52.300 --> 01:01:56.039
that. Yes. I want to find the funeral of Mike

01:01:56.039 --> 01:01:58.340
Peters. Yeah. It's if you go to my YouTube channel,

01:01:58.340 --> 01:02:01.579
I don't know. It should be Mike Peters, but I

01:02:01.579 --> 01:02:05.139
really don't remember. We'll find it. It's open

01:02:05.139 --> 01:02:07.619
for me. I can send it to you. Yeah, but it's

01:02:07.619 --> 01:02:11.159
really funny. And everybody hit out of the park.

01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:14.639
And the funny part was the best part for me is

01:02:14.639 --> 01:02:18.269
like as a book or whatever. And because Mike,

01:02:18.329 --> 01:02:20.210
I don't know if you booked a lot of comedy shows,

01:02:20.230 --> 01:02:22.650
but you're I think you're in a good position

01:02:22.650 --> 01:02:25.730
because you're the hired help at this point.

01:02:26.030 --> 01:02:28.829
So you load off your back. You don't have to

01:02:28.829 --> 01:02:31.630
deal with a lot of this bullshit. But when you

01:02:31.630 --> 01:02:33.630
book a show, you're going to get inundated with

01:02:33.630 --> 01:02:36.010
people saying, hey, how can I get on that? Think

01:02:36.010 --> 01:02:39.070
of me. Whatever. It's annoying. But here's this

01:02:39.070 --> 01:02:42.769
one comedian who is awful. She's the worst person

01:02:42.769 --> 01:02:48.889
in the world and not non -politician at least,

01:02:49.050 --> 01:02:53.349
but she's terrible. Just bad comedian, bad human.

01:02:54.010 --> 01:02:56.130
And she came up to me afterward. Is she from

01:02:56.130 --> 01:02:59.289
Albany? No, but she might be. I don't know. I

01:02:59.289 --> 01:03:01.050
don't know where she's living now. She's from

01:03:01.050 --> 01:03:07.389
originally. I think Long Island originally, but

01:03:07.389 --> 01:03:09.989
I'll say her name. I don't give a shit. Say it.

01:03:10.150 --> 01:03:14.969
Ella Rubinton. OK. I just whatever. She's whatever.

01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:19.159
Anyway, she's the only person I told couldn't

01:03:19.159 --> 01:03:23.199
do my show because she's not funny. Wow. It was

01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:26.920
so therapeutic. For six years, I tried to be

01:03:26.920 --> 01:03:29.360
nice. And you ever watch It's Always Sunny in

01:03:29.360 --> 01:03:32.139
Philadelphia? Yeah. All right. Gale the snail?

01:03:32.579 --> 01:03:37.019
Yes. OK. So the way, Mike, do you know the character?

01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:39.739
I don't. Mike doesn't watch television. I don't

01:03:39.739 --> 01:03:42.000
watch anything that watches. All right. I'll

01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:46.099
discover to you. The main cast has a brother

01:03:46.099 --> 01:03:50.179
and sister. And their cousin, Gail, they call

01:03:50.179 --> 01:03:54.119
her Gail the snail because she's weird. It rhymes,

01:03:54.179 --> 01:03:57.619
obviously. But she looks like Breeze and she's

01:03:57.619 --> 01:04:00.320
just does annoying things and she she doesn't

01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:03.260
know boundaries. So the only way somebody from

01:04:03.260 --> 01:04:08.039
Mohawk. Oh, OK. The only way they figured out

01:04:08.039 --> 01:04:12.500
a way to handle her is by salting her like being

01:04:12.500 --> 01:04:20.159
rude. but also throwing salt. So that's how I

01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:22.780
deal with this person. I tried for years to be

01:04:22.780 --> 01:04:25.780
very nice and tolerant and whatever. And finally

01:04:25.780 --> 01:04:30.820
I'm like, no, just be truthful. And like, just,

01:04:31.059 --> 01:04:34.400
which is mean. So she, she called me, she goes,

01:04:34.539 --> 01:04:37.780
Hey, could you do a show? If I paid you, would

01:04:37.780 --> 01:04:40.159
you promote this show for me and book me as that's

01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:42.659
one of your shows? And I said, no. And she says,

01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:44.219
what do I need to do to get on one of your shows?

01:04:44.300 --> 01:04:47.059
I said, you can't do one of mine. She goes, why?

01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:49.179
I said, because nobody laughs at you with the

01:04:49.179 --> 01:04:53.199
open mics. And she goes, they do a paid show,

01:04:53.260 --> 01:04:55.699
so I said, send me the tape. And I'm still waiting.

01:04:56.579 --> 01:05:00.300
I'm still waiting. That's impressive that she

01:05:00.300 --> 01:05:03.840
must be bad, because you are very. You book him.

01:05:04.059 --> 01:05:06.719
Yeah, you book me. First of all, you book me.

01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:09.889
Second of all. I've seen some people dying on

01:05:09.889 --> 01:05:15.809
stage before and And you've never said a bad

01:05:15.809 --> 01:05:18.110
word about you get the game you get that those

01:05:18.110 --> 01:05:21.369
things happen so for you to not only call her

01:05:21.369 --> 01:05:25.530
out and Refuses it must be bad real though. Yeah

01:05:25.530 --> 01:05:28.909
Everybody Mike Peters homebrewed comedy. That's

01:05:28.909 --> 01:05:31.070
the place to go on the mic with Mike Peters is

01:05:31.070 --> 01:05:33.250
his podcast Mike We really appreciate you joining

01:05:33.250 --> 01:05:35.070
us man. Yeah, man. Thank you so much, buddy.

01:05:35.349 --> 01:05:40.440
It's It's so good to see you in this realm instead

01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:42.079
of just when we're doing shows together. It's

01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:44.380
nice to catch up with you for real, man. Anytime

01:05:44.380 --> 01:05:46.840
you guys want to talk, I'm here. Come on. Anytime.

01:05:47.019 --> 01:05:49.380
Open invitation. Nothing going in the morning.

01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:53.320
I'm waiting for my dog groomer to call so I can

01:05:53.320 --> 01:05:56.360
go get him. There you go. What a life. Thanks,

01:05:56.519 --> 01:05:58.099
guys. This is so much fun. I appreciate you guys.

01:05:58.260 --> 01:06:00.320
We'll talk to you later, buddy. See you. Bye,

01:06:00.380 --> 01:06:00.500
guys.