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now saying, how come we couldn't have thought
of this first? Interesting guests. Kelly Graves,
Mike Parker, Coach Mark Waszkowski, Melissa Lombardi,
Max Torres, El Toro, joining us. Sharp opinions.
I think if you're a supporter of the NBA, that
you should at least have some level of interest
in the WNBA, because the things that interest
you as a NBA fan should still interest you as
a WNBA fan. That's just my opinion. And some
smiles. Can you guess what position I played
in football? Left out? No, I did not. Yeah, exactly.
I did think about that for a second. But yes,
actually, I did not play. I was not picking up.
Goose trying to kill me today on the golf course.
Advanced warning was given. It just apparently
was not heard. I will dispute that in a court
of law. It's Danny Havel. If you're driving and
you're trying to do this in your head, pull off
the side of the road. I don't need any accidents.
Justin Grossweiner. I love to hear Coach go,
we're going to focus on that bad four game stretch
the rest of the season. season. We will never
do that again. That that might be a good point.
I don't know. I mean maybe you could do that.
Maybe that's another strategy. Danny and Justin
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Ubers to get home, we will definitely do that.
But first, a big show again today. as we count
it down. Max Torres is joining us and our good
friend, great recruiting coordinator information
on scoop duck on three. He also does the ducks
dish. He is the West Coast guy. You can follow
him and M Torres sports El Toro will join us
in about 15 minutes from now. A lot of talk about
the World Cup. Some controversy with the US team.
We'll discuss that as well. It's Vegas pushing
the controls. He needs to be at the ready position.
Then over here that's place we call Vegas and
then right over here to my right I'm doc welcome
friends and by the way on the socials Danny and
Justin Whatever Danny Justin fast six minutes
can find the podcast after I need to make sure
I do all that all contractually Obligated it
is baby. J. Justin gross winner. What a boy Well,
I had to look up cavalcade because you've used
that term now three times or four times You haven't
used any other terms to describe our guest for
tomorrow cavalcade And I did look it up. It says
a formal or ceremonial procession. Not a lot
of words. I'm not going to toot my own horn.
I usually know when people say things, what the
word means. You didn't know that word? Not really.
It's an old world. It's an old world. I could
use context clues to figure out what it meant.
Was I accurately describing what we're going
to be doing? I think so. Because it's going to
be a procession of stars. Here's some sentiments,
though, which I think are a little bit interesting.
So a procession, which is doesn't seem like that
works quite. motorcade, pageant, caravan, cordage.
That last one is quizzical to me, but it's going
to be like literally. Ten minute intervals. We're
gonna have one after another after another after
another after another It's it's it was kind of
like what you guys did and what we did a couple
of years ago And then last year on draft night,
which was great I was like one guest after another
is just like your head spinning a little bit
say all right Where am I know it's not this person.
I'm gonna get their name, right? You know what
team you know were they on and and all that so
no, it's gonna be fun tomorrow I'm looking forward
to it. I still have to dive into my research
Fortunately, my wife has her pottery session
tonight where she does her, you know, that Patrick
Swayze, what was the thing with him and Demi
Moore where he was dead and she was like, and
they were behind the pottery wheel? Do you remember
that? Come on now. Come on Vegas, help me out.
You guys, go ahead and Google it. I'm blanking
on the name of the movie. It's like some ghost
movie. Where they're embraced with each other.
I think it was Ghost actually. Is it called Ghost?
It might be Ghost, yeah. Yeah, I mean that was
like that was one of those movies. Yeah, that
actually is That was that was the movie that
kind of like One it got Demi Moore like to be
like sex symbol, you know drop dead a launch
and a serious role because she was kind of pushed
off the side is just you know, this good -looking
person that couldn't act and Patrick Swayze was
like that was a That was like one of his breakout
roles and then he like did One after another
after another I think he did Roadhouse after
that movie. He did dirty dancing after that movie
if I'm right, so Blaze has got a little Patrick
Swayze. Yeah swagger in him too though. No one
puts baby in a corner I've got a great Speaking
of breakout stars. I got a good story. I don't
know if you knew this Yeah, so saving private
Ryan. Yeah private Ryan, of course being Matt
Damon Matt Damon when that was shot It was apparently
and who's the director for saving private Ryan
is it Spielberg? Yeah, so he wanted to cast somebody
that wasn't a well -known actor and And unfortunately
what ended up happening was that I believe it
was goodwill hunting came out During that period
of time after filming and before released and
so he became this huge actor. Maybe it was was
what everyone was been athletic so You know which
movie I'm talking about which It's Matt Damon
Ben Affleck. You said goodwill hunting Yeah,
you just mentioned it. Yeah, that's why I was
quizzical. I thought you said the name. I thought
I confused myself But yeah, isn't that interesting
that he wanted this like no -name kind of guy?
Yeah, you turned out to be Matt Damon And so
the whole point was that when you basically in
the film they go private Ryan and then it's like
you're not supposed to like know who it is But
based on the way that you know film and acting
and Hollywood works you see it Matt Damon. You're
like, oh that's the guy Isn't that funny that
is funny and another so you were on the private
ryan thing saving private ryan tom sizemore played
a great role in that movie tom size sizemore
had his demons they literally Drug tested him
every day on set And it was a part of his insurance
contract and if he failed one test he was going
to get kicked out of that. Yeah He I mean that
was the best thing that ever happened to me absolutely
yeah, and that's why I bring it up because it's
not like you know I'm trying to rip on the guy
I think that he said like he was absolutely serious
that if he broke it once he was so you heard
that story I didn't hear it so yeah, and by the
way whenever I'm sorry you know Trey Park These
guys from South Park have ruined me. Every time
I hear someone say Matt Damon, all I can hear
is, Matt Damon from Team America World Police.
I think he liked that parody, by the way. I think
he was one of the few that did, because there
were some people that were pretty ticked off
about it. I don't know, did Alec Baldwin like
his portrayal in South Park? What was his portrayal?
Oh, he was he was like the axis of Eagle evil.
Oh was he yeah? He was like holding remember
this I really so this is from okay. No Probably
didn't like it Alec Baldwin seems like he is
That's all right, so max tour is coming up you
got so when do you want to talk about the red
card? We should start off by talking about the
red. Okay, so I think we have more to talk because
And then we could we're gonna we're gonna also
talk about you know, what's coming next. Absolutely.
So the the red card thing is doubly concerning
for the U .S. because they encountered the same
type of strife and strain that a lot of the quote
unquote favorite teams have had in this knockout
run except for France. They're the only ones
that really stretched everything. Spain just
won 3 -0 over Austria, but come on, that was
not... And it was France versus Sweden, I think.
Right. We've had a couple of penalty kick shootouts
already, so you've got to play a lot of time
before you get to that point. Monday was awesome.
Just awesome. The whole thing, actually. Now
we're getting into that stage where everyone's
just laying in all their guts are on the floor
or on the pitch. So the red card for the americans
is doubly concerning because argue besides posilic.
It is the best player I mean and we have really
seen christian people think that better bolligan
is the greatest player in us history Not just
the best player right now. He's the best player
to ever put on a us uniform. So it went to var
Which is odd. Don't you think for the the penalty?
I looked at it a couple of times now when you
slow things down, of course you can Amplify.
Yeah, it looks bad when you slow it down. Everything
looks worse when you slow it down If you just
show a picture of him when this foot is on his
ankle, you're like, oh that looks really bad
Okay with a yellow card if you watch it in real
time, you're like, oh well He clearly didn't
mean to do that He just was trying to get the
ball and he happened to be in his way So it wasn't
like this and I get the idea that intent isn't
all of it that it just is one of those things
where if his cleats hit his leg in that area
that it's automatically going to be a foul my
problem is as much as anything that there's precedent
in this tournament that they would for a guy
like messy kind of look the other way and in
this situation they reviewed it unceremoniously
almost and and gave him the red card i mean I
definitely think it was a yellow card. It was
100 % a lot of people disputing right, but there's
a huge boundary between being a yellow card and
being a red card and Obviously, I don't think
he crossed that boundary whatsoever I think it
was clear to everyone else that he didn't but
VAR apparently used still shots Which they're
not supposed not protocol which is not protocol
at all and they did do that this time And it's
just so odd to me like Justin said messy Did
the exact same thing let alone it was very clear
that he did it intentionally that time. No red
card balone does it Red card so not intentional
either. So then i'll just ask the question Is
that did we take a poll on how many belgians
were in the var room? No, we did not is this
the is this the the old guard? Sticking it to
the us a bit because that again if you look at
the you're talking to precedent now If you're
not applying this to everything Equally then
how how is the u .s. Not thinking that they're
trying to stick it to him a bit. It gets worse
Okay. Well, that's great. I was hoping you were
gonna say no Danny stop with your conspiracy
theories No, okay, not only can they not appeal
the red card He actually could face an extended
ban so they could actually extend it from not
just the round of 16 game They could actually
bring it into the corner finals as well. Isn't
that something? So why wouldn't you make that
decision right now then and say it? Why are you
waiting? I don't know. No, so here's the thing.
So it's now like, if the US can beat Belgium,
now are they going to come down and say, oh,
yeah, by the way, yes, you're through to the
quarters. He's out as well. That to me, they
have to make that announcement before the match.
Yeah, I'm sure they will. I think they will.
Because when's the next match against Belgium?
I actually don't know. It's going to be, I think,
probably like a week from now. No, no, no. It's
Monday. I think Monday at 5, right? Do I have
that right? Well, that's still enough time. Monday
Night Football. There you go boy Vegas jump in
there So, all right Monday at five then that's
five West Coast time so you can have a little
Monday night food to ball according to Vegas
Yeah, it's just the whole thing is just unfortunate
because listen the the US has scuffled a little
bit Again the first few matches Really Pacific
spin. Well, he wasn't didn't even play in one
of the second round the second round. So They're
gonna they're gonna need some they're gonna need
somebody else to step up obviously and you know
the the other thing that I think Americans could
and I will get to other matches that are going
on that Americans can hold a little bit closer
self Belgians did not look good. No, and they
were lucky to escape Senegal I heard someone
describe Belgium really really well and they
were comparing Belgium and Argentina where you
have Argentina where it's like these guys like
all Clearly like love each other especially messy
like they'll they'll die on the pitch Yeah for
their team and it looks like for Belgium that
they've just met each other and they're all a
bunch of really good players If you look at the
names, you're gonna go out like really good team,
but I think I think that's the most difficult
thing for any national team because Especially
if you have professional sports and using professional
athletes in it is to build that chemistry and
it's it's hard for any squad now There are certain
countries where it's like they they really don't
have a lot of professional players So they are
literally training for four years together and
they build that camaraderie that chemistry that
I know where that person's going what they're
gonna do because it's like muscle memory and
Those are the teams that can come up and and
bite you a bit Superstardom was always going
to win out and the World Cup is a perfect platform
for that. But that that's a consideration for
sure. Teams that know their roles or any team
you just have to know your role. And that's what
I think is going to be really fascinating about
the United States against Belgium is that you
had this player where Polisic is a guy that opens
up things for people. But Baligan is the finisher.
He's the one that gets it done. And so what are
you going to do when you. have a team that clearly
knew its roles and now you have to make a change
and what sucks is it's not because of an injury
it's because of the stupid ruling that just feels
like it was this like overly egregious call that
i don't know it just feels really gross it's
all also though is if the united states does
lose the ultimate excuse i mean you could sit
there and go like well look at what happened
yeah so is do we think that pull sick can carry
the team into the It's possible Belgium is my
question though. Yeah, I mean I think even without
them They can I think Paul sick can be that piece
that can bring him over the top. Absolutely I
mean I I certainly do too because although ballon
is a huge asset to the team. He's created the
goals, but at the same time It's it's not the
goals that have made the team great the ball
movement has made the team great and I just think
the cohesiveness Ultimately has actually just
put the team on top and I think they can create
those chances and those hopefully those shots
on goal So we are Awaiting Max Torres in a few
moments. We'll have him here on the Danny Justin
radio program two more shows left in this Well,
I don't want to say we're not gonna be sad about
so Can I can I also make mention to all that
you for sure want to be listening in the last
hour? I hope you listen the entire show because
we are going to have so many fantastic athletes
from the pre -fontaine classic that will be joining
us and we'll have them literally in 10 minute
intervals going all the way through starting
at I think Jeff's got the first one like a 105
or whatever. So we will have, literally, athlete
after athlete after athlete after athlete. Cole
Hocker, I think, is going to be our last one.
So what we're looking forward to is having a
wide variety of some of the superstars that are
going to be participating in the Pre -Fontine
Classic. And now, after we're done with that,
we're going to have a couple of last special
guests on the program. But in between our guests,
we're going to do Big Bets in the 3 o 'clock
hour. And I know this has changed. And I know
people fear change, but we're going to do the
three o 'clock hour is going to be started off
with big bets. And Blay Vegas, since it's so
close, Justin and I are tied in first place.
I make it sound better because we're both under
500, a game under 500. And then Goose is a game
behind both of us. So he wants you to pick the
games because he doesn't want me to pick the
games, right? I'll make sure I'll put in some
pickleball professional You know, so so seriously
though. Yeah, I don't want you guys kind of you
both mess with me when I think I think I have
a Good track record of doing well on my own games.
I think I pick things that I know my I know my
territory, you know So I'm not I'm not I'm not
a goose I mean goose is actively going out there
trying to sabotage Oh easy to say that when he's
not in the room, you know, you know He's gonna
do it tomorrow. So you would agree with the fireworks
will be on. Alright, let's take our break. He
come back He is waiting for us. We are so happy
to have El Toro Max Torres for the last time
on the Danny and Justin radio program. It is
a Thursday weekendy program. You can follow Max
Torres and Torres sports on the old social scoop
duck There's a few things we want to talk about
with the University of Oregon. And they are front
and center for Dan Landing Squad when we return
here on the Danny and Justin radio program. Front
office manager Laura texted me while we were
in that whole conversation about Patrick Swayze
and Demi Moore. She was like, ghost, it's Greg,
ghost. We got it. Thanks, yeah. And intentionally.
Yeah. But I think you've never seen the movie.
No, it was unintentional. So last segment of
the program, Jalen Brown slips through the wickets
of the Portland Trail Blazers. We'll discuss
how that affects the Blazers. And it seems like
John Moran is gonna stay a Blazer. So I was wrong.
But we'll talk basketball in the last segment,
especially with these two guys in the studio.
I can't get away from it. Let's head on over.
to our video portion of the program, which is
great radio as always. It's our good friend Max
Torres from mTorres Sports on the socials. He
is the Westcoat recruiting analyst and covers
Oregon recruiting and football really well for
Scoop Duck on three. Also catch him on Duck's
Dish. Max El Toro, last time on the Danny and
Justin radio program. So thank you for all the
time and... How have things been? I mean, is
it still just rocking and rolling? Because it
seemed like Dan Lanning and his staff, I turn
around, it's another four star. It's another,
you know, it's another get. And they all seem
to be big names and guys that Dan Lanning staff's
really focused on. Great to be back here with
you guys, Danny and Justin. Really. Always fun
chopping it up and talking ducks with you. It's
been busy out my way. I mean, from from Oregon
standpoint, I was out in your lovely state last
week for the opening finals over at Nike headquarters,
which was an absolutely phenomenal event. Got
to see a lot of top Oregon targets and now a
couple of commits that I've since joined the
fold for Dan Laney and company. And then when
I'm not working, I'm kind of putting some finishing
touches on my wedding, which is coming up next
month. So yeah, it's a great time. I mean, I'm
almost sad the 2077 class is winding down because
it's been a really fun cycle to cover. But uh,
that's just the way it goes recruiting never
stops and we'll be on to the 2028s before we
know it here in the next couple weeks I know
that's so it's so crazy whenever we kind of think
about the timelines for these cycles because
like you said like it's This 2027 class is already
so developed already, right? Um, and you mentioned
those two guys. It was both yesterday I believe
tay walden jr and hayden step, uh, tay walden
jr. I think he's interesting. He's out of collier
-vare Tennessee he's slotted on on three as the
70th ranked player on other sites. He's listed
as a cornerback He is listed as an athlete on
on three Do you think he ends up as that corner
position like he kind of seems like he could
be that prototypical? Six two and a half six
three sort of cornerback that this Ducks teams
likes Yeah, I think that the Ducks are kind of
leaving it open right now because he really is
that caliber of an athlete that can contribute
on either side of the ball, which I really do
think is quite rare. I was talking to one source
behind the scenes leading up to his recruitment
and was basically or his commitment, I should
say, and was basically told that he could get
on the field early on either side of the ball
at whatever school he picked from his then top
five. So at Oregon, I do think that the need
is probably a bit greater right now at cornerback.
But He played both ways at the Nike opening and
he's a guy that you can just tell he moves really
really easily and It's just a high -level athlete
has great ball skills gets to his top gear in
a hurry so you can obviously see the appeal and
Using him as a wide receiver if that ends up
being his ultimate home once he gets to Eugene
So I do think that it's likely that he's gonna
start at corner At least that's where the discussion
is kind of at right now, but I don't believe
that organ has completely closed. Okay the door
on him playing right receiver once he gets his
college career going in a recruitment that kind
of resembles or at least reminds me a bit of
Jalen lot organs new five star wide receiver
that just got there. We are with Max Torres from
on three as we talk Oregon football and recruiting.
Let's stay in the defensive backfield and I'm
I'm getting a sense that Josiah Moldan is going
to be a quote machine as he's already coming
out and saying things like very confident we
can get a natty something my dad couldn't do
and such and stays in that cornerback position.
So let's talk about his talent. He's a four star
as well. And what is what does he bring to the
fold for Dan Lanning? Yeah, molding is a name
that that we know very well I mean he is someone
on the Ducks have wanted for years now and That
dates all the way back to his eighth grade year
before he even got going at Westlin So I think
that he brings physicality he brings a great
football IQ and feel for the game and also checks
checks the box for Oregon when it comes to longer
cornerbacks, you know listed at six foot and
I'm really excited to see kind of how he bounces
back because obviously his injury was was something
that was pretty unfortunate. Anytime you have
an ACL injury, that's not something that's easy
to bounce back from. But I do remember the last
time I spoke with him, he was just really kind
of had a great head on his shoulders just trying
to learn from that experience. And he's definitely
a guy that's made of the right stuff. So I know
the Ducks are really excited about him because
they didn't get the last mold in that they recruited,
but they made darn sure that they were going
to get Josiah if they had anything to say about
it. Absolutely. of this class real quick, just
in case people aren't super familiar. Rashad
Streets is a guy, he's the third best in his
state, seventh at his position, 28th naturally.
He's an edge player from Raleigh, North Carolina.
Does he seem to be a guy, almost like a Mateo
Uyenglele, where pretty early on, maybe not gonna
be every down starter, but somebody that early
on in his career, I'm not saying as a freshman
necessarily, but early on, that he could be a
contributor on some sort of basis? Absolutely.
That's how I see him. I mean, I think that he's
someone who could ultimately develop into a first
round pick if everything goes right for him and
his Oregon staff. He's a little bit smaller than
Mateo at six foot three, 240 pounds, but this
was really their prized edge target in the twenty
twenty seven class and they went out to get him.
I think that they're still going to try to get
DJ Jacobs if possible. I do think that's kind
of a Hail Mary, long shot, don't hold her breath
kind of a guy. But if that door stays open at
all, then that's all you need as an Oregon staff.
So maybe you get him out for a game day and he
likes what he sees there. He's been to campus
a couple of times already. So I think that that's
an end that you obviously like you for the Oregon
staff. But Rashad streets is a tremendous player.
I mean, incredibly twitchy and disruptive off
the line of scrimmage. Just watch his tape. It
is full of highlights. This guy lives in the
backfield, whether it's going after the quarterback
or chopping down the run. So that's when they're
incredibly excited about. And once again, the
state of North Carolina, given the ducks, a hell
of a player excited to see what Kendra Harrison
can do after joining the ducks from Reedsville,
North Carolina and the 2026 class. Hey Max, this
is producer blaze. I just wanted to have a question
for you party from the broader aspects of recruiting
I wanted to know Oregon has obviously had success
from both recruiting out of high school and the
transfer portal But I want to know your opinion
on which aspect has benefited the Ducks under
Dan landing more Ooh, that is a tough question.
I mean, I think the answer to that one is kind
of twofold. Maybe in the short or immediate term,
you could say the transfer portal just because
of some of the quarterbacks that he's had. I
mean, both Dante Moore and Bo Nix came from the
transfer portal. If you're just looking at it
from that standpoint. And we all know how important
the quarterback position is. But in the long
term, I do think, especially when you're looking
at this year in the 2026 season and all of the
hype and expectations that have been building
around the program, you have to look at the high
school rankings because that's what forms the
foundation. That's the nucleus of your roster.
And the Ducks are getting a lot of those guys
back. Look at Mateo, look at Tatum, look at Amari
Washington on the defensive line. A lot of people
think they're going to have the best defensive
line in the country next year. All those guys
were recruited by Oregon out of high school and
Simon the Ducks out of high school. So I don't
think that that's something that we can overlook,
but the way that they've complimented the high
school talent acquisition with the transfer portal
splashes has been as good, if not better than
anybody else in the country. So it's all a balancing
act and Oregon's doing a really good job of it.
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as well here on the Danny and Justin radio program.
I want to stay on that transfer portal, high
school. theme a bit because when the season ended,
Transfer Portal opened up, Max, there was, all
of the birds came out of the woodwork and some
other schools like, hey, you know, we're gonna
poach all those second line guys because they
wanna start and they don't look like they're
gonna start because there's people in front of
them and Dan Lanning staff's recruiting really
high level athletes to come in. It seems to me
that... The replenishment has been done for the
2026 year and they've already got a huge leap
on 2027. I think it's still another top five
class, if I'm not mistaken. So why, I mean, why
and how, I mean, what is Dan Lanning pouring
in these kids' drinks that just say, yep, I got
the Kool -Aid, man, I'm gonna come to Eugene?
Wow, I mean, that's a that's a great question.
I think it's a combination of a number of things
I think one thing that probably gets overlooked
when it comes to recruiting and Oregon is That
a lot of these recruits want to go to Oregon
because of the players that they're gonna be
going against it's not Necessarily all the the
glitz and glam the Nike and the NIL and the exposure.
I mean, those are all bonuses But a lot of these
guys that I talk to them, like, why are you going
to Oregon? And what gets you excited about it?
It's like, I'm going against the best every day.
You know, if I'm going against an Amari Washington
or I'm going against a Pancho Lalaulu in practice,
and that's only going to help me and ultimately
make the games easier. So I do think that that's
a big part of it. You know, a lot of people think
that Dan Lanny and the recruits have told me
that he's a player's first coach. And you can
see how he pours into the relationships with
his current guys. And they kind of become some
of the best advertisers. the best marketing for
future players. You see the development under
landing at Oregon. I think that Mario Cristobal
kind of got that going in the right direction.
But I mean, if we're calling that a fire, I think
that Dan Lanny is just poured gasoline all over
it. The NFL draft production has just been incredible.
You look at the revitalization of the college
careers that some of these transfer portal guys
have when they get to Oregon. Bear Alexander
being a great one. Bo Nicks being another great
one. George Birch being another one. and I think
is very prominent. The list really goes on. Malik
Benson, another one, just from this last one.
And Jayden Kennedy, too. I mean, literally, I
can just keep naming guys that came to Oregon,
not as bad players, but maybe not major contributors
or someone that was viewed as a high -end talent
broadly in college football. And they come to
Oregon, and they get them right. So I think that
those are some of the main factors, for sure.
Well, and also, sorry, like the development and
the I guess improvement on a really good player
or even a great player like a Dylan Thienemann
or you know Koi Perich who's now coming here
so like these guys have already established themselves
as all league all conference type players but
they are taking their last year of eligibility
coming to Oregon so like I know I can be like
I can get my finish level up where I'm gonna
be more valuable and Dylan Thienemann cashed
it in with a first round pick this year Yeah,
I think that that's that that's a part of it
too Danny I think that they see that they can
you know organ can kind of help me get that last
level of my game You know take that last leap
that I want to maybe become a first rounder Maybe
become a day to draft pick if that's maybe the
situation someone finds themselves in but another
part of it too that I mean We can just be blunt
here guys want to win like players. It's like
don't perish like they're they're not at programs
that are ultimately going to be making to great
point sustained runs in the playoff every year.
So I don't think that winning a national championship
has as much draw as some people think it does
in the world of recruiting. It almost sounds
a little selfish to say it this way, but a lot
of guys, they just want to get developed and
they want to make it to the NFL. Like that is
the goal. But national championship is kind of
right there behind it. So yeah, it certainly
doesn't hurt. And you're going to get more exposure
and more eyeballs on you. All of that stuff.
Branding awareness. So I think Oregon is just
checking a lot of these boxes right now. Well,
and the thing about a lot of these guys, too,
is they stay. I mean, we're not even just talking
about the defensive lineman, of course, that
came and could have gone to the draft and decided
to stay in Oregon. A lot of these guys come in
as freshmen and they develop and they stay and
they don't leave. And I think that's a unique
thing in college football. at this time where
relationships, and we've been talking about this
recently, are more and more transactional. So
how unique is it for Oregon to have the ability
to not just plan for, okay, well, this guy's
gonna be here for this next year, but to say,
hey, we can actually have this guy for maybe
a two, a three years, and see what his development
is like over a longer period of time. Like, how
unique is that in the landscape of college football
at this point? I'd say it's pretty unique. obviously
the defensive line is the big talking point right
now for the Ducks, but Dante Moore has to be
the best example right now. I couldn't even,
probably tens of millions of dollars that he
turned down as a lock, as the top three draft
pick last year to come back and just take one
more shot at things with Oregon. that just speaks
volumes to where they're at. And I mean, I'm
not going to be naive and say that Oregon didn't
make sure it was well worth his while financially.
But I think it also talks about just the substance
in the program and the kind of guys that Oregon's
going after. They're really making sure that
these are guys that are going to be bought in
to the long term picture of it. So Dante Moore
could have ridden off into the sunset even after
that horrible loss to Indiana last year and gotten
his money and then probably be getting destroyed
by somebody. That's rushing against the Jets,
right? Probably wouldn't have had the best, probably
wouldn't have had the best start to his NFL career.
Uh, but instead he decided to run it back for
one more year of the ducks and, and maybe, uh,
maybe he'll end up in a better landing spot in
the NFL. But before we get to that, he wants
to try to make sure that things end the right
way. And he and his teammates are just coming
back from the land of the rising sun. And I want
to talk about that now because you want to talk
about getting development and getting world experiences.
That's kind of unique in Oregon. And I think
there's been some comments. We've got Max Torres
joining us from on three scoop duck on three
You can read watch him. He does great podcasts
as well and the video content He's the West Coast
recruiting analysts and joins us on the Danny
and Justin radio program so going Overseas with
that seven -on -seven having those those those
kids get that exposure to an International audience
very unique as a college athlete so there was
things that were being talked about you know
how Dan Lanny's gonna twist this into, you know,
some recruiting aspect and such. But at the base
of it, in your opinion, what was that all about
for Oregon and their program? I know. See, I'm
sorry. I should like pre -give you questions,
Max. I know I'm throwing some hard balls at you.
No, you're good. You're good. I mean, because
we've seen Oregon take like, you know, service
trips abroad and stuff, but this is definitely
on a different level because I think that you're...
You're tapping into a country where football
isn't necessarily very prominent, but obviously
there's some interest when you see some of the
feedback and return and the scenes from their
camp out there in Japan. So I think part of it
has to also, I mean, I can't. help, but also
think about how You know Nike started with some
very strong ties to Japan Like if you just look
at Phil Knight story creating his first shoe
I wish I had more details than that, but I do
remember that being part of shoe dog when I was
reading it So I think that the relationship with
Nike in Japan plays into part of it and organ
being the Nike school I think that that's just
naturally gonna come with a level of excitement
and then just also just showing the the power
of the game and how the ducks are trying to popularize
a game from overseas. I mean, that's another
interesting recruiting storyline is that we're
seeing more and more, not necessarily with Oregon,
but more and more we're seeing, you know. European
players or players that come from Africa and
they play rugby or some other sport and then
they pick up football and then I mean, I can't
remember the guy's name for the life of me, but
that guy on the Eagles that got drafted. I don't
think he had an extensive background in football,
but he's just a freak athlete. And now the Eagles
are going to say, all right, let's just wind
it up and let him go and see what we can do here.
So I think spreading the game of football and
just. Showing that it's for everybody is is definitely
part of the core of that trip in my opinion Yeah,
it's fascinating the Ducks continue to push the
envelope in terms of the Oregon Ducks football
brand Just want to bring it back to the recruiting
here real quick the 27 and 28 classes Danny was
right the Ducks on on three are nationally ranked
at fourth right now First time I was right today,
by the way It was the first time I was right
about anything actually and I let them know it
too But what are you looking for? We talked about
how the 27 class is a lot more developed than
maybe the 28 class Like what are you looking
for right now as the next dominoes to fall for
this Oregon Ducks recruiting? Mean that this
class is I could probably only tell you three
or four guys that Oregon still looking for Ishmael
Kamara the big offensive lineman out of Texas
is someone that organs continually Mentioned
with I had I'm trying to figure out if I want
to keep my pick on Oregon for him or not because
Texas is picking up a lot of steam SMU is in
the mix there as well But on defense, it's really
down to linebacker Brayton Feaster and defensive
lineman Brayton, Brayton Parks with Feaster announcing
on July 11th. I like Oregon's chances there and
then Parks. We're not sure when he's announcing,
but we know it's going to be either Oregon or
Notre Dame. So I'm just looking to see how Oregon
finishes this thing out. They probably don't
need another offensive lineman, but they definitely
need at least one or two more interior defensive
lineman to kind of smooth things out with this
class and just make sure you're covering all
your bases. So that's kind of what I'm looking
for. forward here from Oregon and then as they
get into the season you know maybe we're talking
late November or so maybe you're going big fish
hunting big game hunting for some big flips and
you pull your spatulas out before the early signing
period all right I know Justin wants to give
you some thanks because he's known you a lot
longer but I've always enjoyed talking to you
Max and and listening consuming your content
because it's just it's a plus across the board
I only have one last question for you Who is
going to sequester your phone, your tablet, any
communication device on your wedding day so you
can concentrate on that? Is there somebody appointed
responsibility to make sure you're not gonna
be anywhere near a phone? Yeah, I mean, I haven't...
You know assign anybody that but I'll put maybe
my best man. Michael will be the one that does
that You know, fortunately there shouldn't be
too much recruiting stuff that's going on when
August 8th rolls around so That'll make it a
little bit easier. I think to enjoy the day,
but Yeah, it shouldn't be too hard I mean that'll
that'll be a break that I'm very much looking
forward to And then I know that the the coverage
and the hustle and the grind will be there when
I get back Well, congratulations again to you
and your fiance Thank you. Yeah. Congratulations,
man. And thanks again for coming on this program
as many times as you have. I think I've worked
with you more than I've worked with any other
guest in my professional career. And I've always
loved it, man. It's always been great. We got
the chance to hang out a little bit the last
time. One of the last times in your gene, at
least. And so, you know, I always appreciate
you. Love your work. I think you do a great job.
And we're looking forward to seeing what you're
doing in the future. And hopefully we cross paths
again here. at some point soon. Absolutely. Well,
it's it's been it's been a pleasure and a privilege
coming on and getting to talk ducks with you
guys. I'm always always down to come on whenever
the schedule lines up, because there's always
something to talk about. So I can't thank you
enough for having me on and helping me reach
more Oregonians with with this microphone. And
I definitely want to connect hopefully sometime
in the future. All right, Max, thank you very
much, buddy. You can go and find him scoop duck
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All right, when we come back, Jalen Brown, we
got to talk about Jalen Brown. Why did he go
to Philadelphia? What happened? What, he's done
it like Portland? I mean, it doesn't rain that
much. We'll talk about that and why Justin is
very, very upset. Very upset. He's like for Clemthorpe.
All right. All right We come back on the Danny
and Justin radio program Big show tomorrow from
the graduates. We're gonna be on a sofa. We're
gonna be kicking back putting our legs up One
to four tomorrow. We go out with a bang on the
Danny and Justin radio program the last ever
Danny and Justin radio program Have a lot of
great guests from the pre -classic. We're gonna
have a couple of guests to wind up the show from
our trough of All -stars that we've used over
the last couple of years been able to partner
with just like what you just heard Max Torres
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He's got to be a must -listen in a much needed
follow for you. So That'll be one to four. We'll
do big bets right at the three o 'clock hour.
So I just confirmed our last guest and the exact
time that we will have our last official guest
on the program. It will be at 3 30. And you also
want to listen for another special announcement
in the three o 'clock hour. Not sure when I'm
going to squeeze it in, but we've got something
big we want to tell you about now. Yesterday
when we had something even bigger. Yes, it will
be even bigger. So, I mean, sometimes when people
hype up something, I think you hear an announcement,
it's like, I don't have a big announcement. I
don't have anything big about that. Yeah, so
if you didn't hear yesterday on the program,
it's the worst kept secret now, I'm operating
the radio station now. I'm owning the radio station.
So now you guys work for me. How'd the first
full day go, by the way? It went pretty well.
Justin try to try to power trip on me, but you
know, I did not did you power trip on? He tried
to Ever he does not know his place Wow, we've
already got a cast system going on here. It's
just unbeknownst to me I guess listen, I don't
want to pull a power trip, but if we got to set
some boundaries All right, you two neutral corners
so So jaylen brown slipped through the The blazers
fingers, I mean, but he did he really? He wanted
to know my take on it. Sure. I want to hear it.
All right, so jaylen brown traded to the philadelphia
76ers for 36 year old paul george who's making
50 plus million dollars per year two first round
picks I believe it's 2031 2033 and then two second
round picks. My point is I think the blazers
had a better offer than that Even if you basically
said, well, you know, we think that Paul George
is going to have a bounce back season. We like
these picks. I think there's a pretty strong
case that if you look at the Blazers and what
they realistically could have offered and not
had too much of a bite out of their team, I think
it would have made sense for the Celtics. Quite
honestly, they could have added more picks. For
example, I think Paul George and Drew Holiday.
Functionally at this point are not too different
in terms of their value If anything Paul George
was known for having almost negative value You
have to get rid of him with a first -round pick
to even get rid of them They were able to do
it for Jalen Brown So I think I think Drew Holliday
is a more valuable player in terms of his value
than a Paul George necessarily I don't think
he had negative value So you add a guy that has
the similar contract. That's where you're getting
the money from to match it Okay, then you add
one of the young players you have scoot henderson
or shade and sharp You don't have to do both
you just do one that matches the money Maybe
the Celtics have to throw in a player to match
the players and then you do however many picks
they have three Milwaukee Bucks picks Why couldn't
they have offered those picks which are going
to be definitely better than anything? The Philadelphia
76ers are going to be in a few years So I think
that the Blazers had a stronger offer if they
would have wanted to they They clearly did not
want this. They didn't want it. So Brown, who's
29, is coming off a career season. He finished
sixth in the MVP voting and was second -team
All -NBA selection, averaged 28, almost 29 points
a game, seven rebounds a game, five assists per
game. He's a five -time All -Star. And he helped
Boston to the 2024 Eastern Conference Finals
NBA Finals MVP. leading the Celtics to their
18th title in franchise history. This is a good
player. But don't you think as well, and I think
you amplified on this point, and we talked about
it earlier, is that this was going to be a tweener
fit for the Blazers. They need and still need
another big man for Donovan Klingon. You know,
they re -signed Robert Williams III, the reincarnation,
or what do you like calling it? The idea of Robert
Williams III. but I mean that's just kind of
patchwork that's that position it seems like
you know you've got four guards now and we just
talked about it off here I'll let you jump in
here if you want Vegas is Damien Lowe had to
sign off on this and where I stated a couple
of days ago I thought this whole John Moran thing
was like yeah no they're gonna move him again
they just got to get off of him or or they're
gonna move other pieces as well It almost it's
starting to feel like to me that there's no other
really big shoes that can drop for the blazers
It's almost like this is going to be the team
that's going to roll out in 20 26 27. Am I wrong?
Yeah, I mean I think you're completely right
and I I You can't project what's gonna happen.
It could go terribly wrong or it could be like
the genius idea that whatever pieces are They
don't need draft picks. They don't need players.
No, they're trying to win No, they're trying
to yeah, they're trying to win and I mean I think
Mike Onori honestly was like, I want to run a
small ball lineup. And Dane was like, yeah, I
want to do that too. I want to play off the ball.
I don't want to have to come off an injury and
have to deal with the physical position of being
the point guard and having to take the ball off
the court. When has that been successful for
any team that's won the NBA championship? I mean
tell me the warriors were the last one to do
it when they were scoring 150 points a game They
I think they still need another season even think
about an NBA championship. I mean, yeah, I don't
believe I don't believe If you're looking at
a team that won with a lead small guard looking
no further than the New York Knicks this year
at Jalen Brunson So it's not impossible to win
with that guy But if you look at that team as
well every other guy besides Jalen Brunson is
a six foot seven six foot eight Two -way player
that can make up for Jalen Brown or does excuse
me Jalen Brunson So I think that the concern
is the fact that you have four of these guys
playing I heard that the solution that they might
have is by playing drew holiday as the small
forward Which should be very interesting. So
playing a three guard lineup three guys under
six four. That's a great idea Listen, I mean
he's a guy that he he was the one that was on
Wemby, you know, he's however many inches taller
than him and he's a guy that can kind of do that
So are we then throwing out the theory that the
New York Knicks had the best team in the NBA
this year or they got helped in the postseason
especially by not running into a team that was
a better matchup against them? I'm a big believer
in the NBA. It's not the same in other sports
I think in the NBA the best team wins except
for if there's injuries Yeah, because i'm not
arguing the fun. I'm just saying we want that
I don't think there's major people trashing the
knicks saying well if they were to run into some
other team You know, I think they didn't run
into detroit, you know, they didn't run into
the thunder That's basically the team. I think
they're talking about my personal opinion I think
the best team in the nba is the one that wins
the championship. They have the best roster.
That's just my opinion I can partially agree
with that. I don't think it's always the best
team. I think it has a lot of different things
that play into it. I think a big part of it is
especially playoff momentum. The Knicks literally
won 13 straight playoff games. I feel like when
you're riding off that momentum, it's really
hard to beat a team like that. I don't think
that makes definitely makes him the best team
in the NBA. I do. I'm biased, but I do actually
think the Thunder were a better team. I think
the Spurs were a better team than the Knicks.
I think it's also about matchups. And the Knicks
were a better matchup against the Spurs. And
the Spurs got punched in the mouth and pounded
to the mouth and they didn't know how to handle
it. That's a young team that I think did not
know how to handle the adversity. And when they
got squeezed, man, they cracked. I think in football,
the best team does not win every year. I think
in basketball, the best team does. All right.
So one more program left on the Danny and Justin
show. And so we got just two more dad jokes left.
Oh, a joke. I got fired from the bank today.
Woman asked me to check her balance, so I pushed
her. Dad jokes! I know it's good when you like
laugh before you even say it. Which vegetable
has the best kung fu? Which vegetable has the
best kung fu? I feel like I'm gonna know this.
I don't know. Broccoli. Alright, alright, come
on broccoli. Yeah, you're right. That was it's
true. That's true. That's a good one Yesterday,
but it was you know, so yesterday too. Alright
kids adjust your calendars. It's not gonna be
the fastest sixty minutes Gonna be the fastest
hundred eighty minutes. Yeah, this is the last
fastest sixty minutes This is the last bit. I
didn't realize that Yeah, me neither. It is.
Alright, blaze nice job. We'll enjoy it for another
20 seconds. Baby Jay, we're gonna do it all again
in what 20 hours or so and then we go till four
o 'clock tomorrow after party at laura wood we'll
talk about all of it join us tomorrow one o 'clock
from the graduate live put a smiley face someone
else's they deserve so to you for the entire
career i'm danny peace