WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.720 sports. Eugene portions of this show are recorded. 00:00:04.980 --> 00:00:08.099 Strap in and be prepared. I love growing the 00:00:08.099 --> 00:00:11.320 game. I can guarantee you, any other West Coast 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:14.460 team that's watching this, I'm sure USC is gnashing 00:00:14.460 --> 00:00:17.379 their teeth right now saying, how come we couldn't 00:00:17.379 --> 00:00:20.019 have thought of this first? Interesting guests. 00:00:20.219 --> 00:00:22.920 Kelly Gray, Mike Parker, Coach Mark Waskowski, 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:25.600 Melissa Lombardi, Max Torres, El Toro, joining 00:00:25.600 --> 00:00:28.699 us. Sharp opinions. I think if you're a supporter 00:00:28.699 --> 00:00:31.179 of the NBA, that you should at least have some 00:00:31.179 --> 00:00:33.320 level of interest in the WNBA because the things 00:00:33.320 --> 00:00:36.820 that interest you as a NBA fan should still interest 00:00:36.820 --> 00:00:38.880 you as a WNBA fan. That's just my opinion. And 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:40.939 some smiles. Can you guess what position I played 00:00:40.939 --> 00:00:44.000 in football? Left out? No, I did not. Yeah, exactly. 00:00:44.619 --> 00:00:46.100 I did think about that for a second. But yes, 00:00:46.100 --> 00:00:47.740 actually, I did not play. I was not picking up. 00:00:47.780 --> 00:00:50.500 Goose tried to kill me today on the golf course. 00:00:50.820 --> 00:00:52.640 Advanced warning was given. It just apparently 00:00:52.640 --> 00:00:55.219 was not heard. I will dispute that in a court 00:00:55.219 --> 00:00:57.759 of law. It's Danny Havel. If you're driving and 00:00:57.759 --> 00:00:59.219 you're trying to do this in your head, pull off 00:00:59.219 --> 00:01:00.859 the side of the road. I don't need any accidents. 00:01:01.240 --> 00:01:03.420 Justin Grossweiner. I love to hear a coach go, 00:01:03.500 --> 00:01:06.260 we're going to focus on that bad four game stretch 00:01:06.260 --> 00:01:08.909 the rest of the season. season. We'll never do 00:01:08.909 --> 00:01:11.170 that again. That might be a good point. I don't 00:01:11.170 --> 00:01:12.829 know. Maybe you could do that. Maybe that's another 00:01:12.829 --> 00:01:15.989 strategy. Danny and Justin starts now on Fox 00:01:15.989 --> 00:01:22.090 Sports Eugene and Fox Sports Newport. Hello, 00:01:23.390 --> 00:01:26.310 neighbors. Welcome high atop the Delta Tri at 00:01:26.310 --> 00:01:29.049 the Crystal Palace. From the Midfoot Beverages 00:01:29.049 --> 00:01:31.810 Studios, Fox Sports Eugene Fox Sports, Newport. 00:01:32.069 --> 00:01:34.069 This is the fastest 60 minutes in sports. The 00:01:34.069 --> 00:01:36.209 Danny and Justin radio program big show for you 00:01:36.209 --> 00:01:39.510 today. We'll get into it shortly. Another duo 00:01:39.510 --> 00:01:43.109 of guests here on the fastest 60 minutes. Yogi 00:01:43.109 --> 00:01:45.629 Roth and Mark Wasikowski will join us talking 00:01:45.629 --> 00:01:47.769 wildly different things, but some of them somewhat 00:01:47.769 --> 00:01:50.650 the same. There are similarities between the 00:01:50.650 --> 00:01:54.069 sports landscape in college athletics. Thanks 00:01:54.069 --> 00:01:56.969 for tuning in. You can follow us on the old Twitter. 00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:02.120 Danny and Justin also wherever you platform your 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:05.099 podcasts or your music Spotify I heart any of 00:02:05.099 --> 00:02:08.639 that We are there Danny and Justin fastest 60 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:11.500 minutes in sports a little bit cooler today high 00:02:11.500 --> 00:02:14.580 80s Gonna go play some golf after the show with 00:02:14.580 --> 00:02:18.659 the general up at lower wood I'm doc right over 00:02:18.659 --> 00:02:20.379 there is my tag -team partner Justin gross one 00:02:20.379 --> 00:02:23.560 of ABJ Just think it's a shame if you're not 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:26.020 a soccer fan or a football fan or whatever you 00:02:26.020 --> 00:02:28.439 want to call it the absolutely Filthy goal that 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:30.740 Bob they just scored he he just absolutely put 00:02:30.740 --> 00:02:33.639 one in the back of the net from we had to be 00:02:33.639 --> 00:02:36.780 45 yards up and it wasn't 45 yards. It was about 00:02:36.780 --> 00:02:41.900 22 yards, maybe oh That's the 18 It was halfway 00:02:41.900 --> 00:02:45.800 in between midfield and the 18. So I'm just saying 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:48.949 it's been great. This is known as the the Kind 00:02:48.949 --> 00:02:51.689 of the quiet season for sports, but with the 00:02:51.689 --> 00:02:54.090 World Cup going on right now, like I'm I'm loving 00:02:54.090 --> 00:02:56.229 it a lot going on. I'm just having a great time. 00:02:56.689 --> 00:02:58.810 Obviously a lot stuff going on that's off the 00:02:58.810 --> 00:03:01.729 field stuff we're going to talk about, but you 00:03:01.729 --> 00:03:04.310 know some stuff that isn't so good. But now if 00:03:04.310 --> 00:03:06.349 you're an Oregon baseball fan, not great at all. 00:03:06.409 --> 00:03:08.789 So by the way, we're going to have Mark Waskowski 00:03:08.789 --> 00:03:11.370 on. So full disclosure, we talked to coach this 00:03:11.370 --> 00:03:14.550 morning. We already knew about Angel IA. entering 00:03:14.550 --> 00:03:17.090 the transfer portal. We did not, although we 00:03:17.090 --> 00:03:21.050 did have an idea when we talked to coach that 00:03:21.050 --> 00:03:23.250 there was something else that could not be great. 00:03:23.889 --> 00:03:27.650 And there it is, is Junior Milwaukee also enters 00:03:27.650 --> 00:03:30.889 the transfer portal. And I think the more important 00:03:30.889 --> 00:03:32.430 thing that we're going to talk about with coach 00:03:32.430 --> 00:03:35.770 is relevant is the transfer portal itself and 00:03:35.770 --> 00:03:38.129 what players are going to have to decide on for 00:03:38.129 --> 00:03:41.810 themselves. in terms of their education, in terms 00:03:41.810 --> 00:03:43.830 of their growth as a player, and in terms of 00:03:43.830 --> 00:03:47.710 money. Which, listen, both those players were 00:03:47.710 --> 00:03:50.610 all -American freshmen, along with Braden Jackson, 00:03:51.169 --> 00:03:54.210 who is still... I hope he's not having to make 00:03:54.210 --> 00:03:57.590 a huge decision that he remains a duck, but you 00:03:57.590 --> 00:04:02.069 don't know. But they had such great seasons that 00:04:02.069 --> 00:04:05.870 the reality is, it's an arms race. And I have 00:04:05.870 --> 00:04:08.210 no doubt in my mind... because they were both 00:04:08.210 --> 00:04:10.530 starters, that somebody waved a check at them. 00:04:10.849 --> 00:04:14.509 And I was like, you know what? Here we go. I 00:04:14.509 --> 00:04:18.209 will be shocked if they both do not go to SEC 00:04:18.209 --> 00:04:20.730 teams. I was about to say exactly that. I would 00:04:20.730 --> 00:04:22.350 be shocked if they did not end up in the SEC. 00:04:23.050 --> 00:04:26.769 But it's tough, right? Because we've talked about 00:04:26.769 --> 00:04:29.470 this. You can't blame these guys for doing this 00:04:29.470 --> 00:04:31.110 because this is the opportunity that they have. 00:04:31.269 --> 00:04:34.009 So they're gonna take those opportunities. It's 00:04:34.009 --> 00:04:36.910 the same thing with anybody at any level of sports. 00:04:37.170 --> 00:04:39.329 If somebody comes along and says, I wanna make 00:04:39.329 --> 00:04:41.290 your life easier, I wanna give you more money, 00:04:41.370 --> 00:04:44.209 I'm gonna give you this opportunity, then a lot 00:04:44.209 --> 00:04:47.269 of times it's hard to say no. So I will just 00:04:47.269 --> 00:04:49.329 put it, and we gotta get to Yogi Arath here in 00:04:49.329 --> 00:04:51.329 a second, because he's gonna be hanging on. He's 00:04:51.329 --> 00:04:53.449 back East right now, gonna work for NBC Sports 00:04:53.449 --> 00:04:57.399 a little bit. And we're going to talk about the 00:04:57.399 --> 00:04:59.519 Brendan Sworsby thing, and we'll squeeze in a 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:02.040 question about Oregon football as well. But let's 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:03.939 put a bow on it. We'll talk about it in the last 00:05:03.939 --> 00:05:06.800 segment as well after we hear from Woz in our 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:11.160 second segment of the program, is put it to you 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:13.379 like in your own career. And this is the way 00:05:13.379 --> 00:05:15.819 I would frame it to anyone. If somebody offers 00:05:15.819 --> 00:05:19.620 you at a competing company a bigger office, more 00:05:19.620 --> 00:05:22.680 money, more responsibility, and a bigger stage, 00:05:22.939 --> 00:05:28.339 how many people? Would not take that how many 00:05:28.339 --> 00:05:31.540 tell me honestly if you were offered an advancement 00:05:31.540 --> 00:05:33.959 And that's what these things would be because 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:35.740 it comes down to money and they're getting advice 00:05:35.740 --> 00:05:37.800 Hopefully they're getting good advice from the 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:40.000 people around them their agents their family 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:43.199 Whoever is in that inner circle and they have 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:44.920 to make a decision for themselves I would hate 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:47.800 to have to make those decisions when I'm 18 19 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:50.519 20 years old because You got to lean into a lot 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:52.560 of people you trust. There's some people that 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:54.910 say you can't put a price on loyalty And I do 00:05:54.910 --> 00:05:58.750 think that loyalty is a big thing when developing 00:05:58.750 --> 00:06:01.889 players in a program. It's important to have 00:06:01.889 --> 00:06:03.670 that connection with players. But I also think 00:06:03.670 --> 00:06:06.329 it's getting to the point where I think it's 00:06:06.329 --> 00:06:09.269 probably really hard to have that level of connection 00:06:09.269 --> 00:06:12.329 with players because there is this transactional 00:06:12.329 --> 00:06:14.730 relationship in a lot of ways. And, you know, 00:06:14.730 --> 00:06:16.769 in the Brendan Storesby situation, we saw that 00:06:16.769 --> 00:06:18.870 they obviously didn't do their homework on this 00:06:18.870 --> 00:06:21.110 guy. And I think one of those reasons was because 00:06:21.629 --> 00:06:24.649 He is, in a way, the position of power as the 00:06:24.649 --> 00:06:26.790 player, and they have to dictate to his terms, 00:06:26.850 --> 00:06:28.910 and it turns out they got a bad apple. And you 00:06:28.910 --> 00:06:31.410 know what is irritating? We gotta get to Hugh. 00:06:31.410 --> 00:06:32.769 I know, we gotta get to Hugh. He's on the line. 00:06:33.129 --> 00:06:36.769 So, the whole big booster Cody Campbell, you 00:06:36.769 --> 00:06:40.050 know, president of sports at Texas Tech, coming 00:06:40.050 --> 00:06:42.689 out and saying that they maintain that Texas 00:06:42.689 --> 00:06:45.269 Tech did the right thing, that they were not... 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:47.439 You know and this was and this was now if you 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:49.360 read a statement and very interesting and pull 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:52.579 the line out Brendan Sorsby was the one who filed 00:06:52.579 --> 00:06:55.399 this Request for an injunction. It was not the 00:06:55.399 --> 00:07:01.480 school. So now It was his it was his idea to 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:04.060 do that not us we we maintain the integrity of 00:07:04.060 --> 00:07:06.459 the game Yeah, those five guys sitting around 00:07:06.459 --> 00:07:08.600 a table even though they were treating him like 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:10.660 they would treat their son those are the words 00:07:10.660 --> 00:07:13.500 of the director those were the words so but but 00:07:13.500 --> 00:07:16.800 and Brennan Soarsby probably figured out, because 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:18.459 he had a dip in his own pocket, like I think 00:07:18.459 --> 00:07:20.740 I told you, that this was going to be a long 00:07:20.740 --> 00:07:23.060 -protracted, hundreds of thousands of dollars 00:07:23.060 --> 00:07:26.240 expense if he wanted to fight the NCAA in court, 00:07:26.459 --> 00:07:30.860 which the Big 12 was suing. Bring the NCAA back 00:07:30.860 --> 00:07:33.620 to into the picture So let's head on over to 00:07:33.620 --> 00:07:35.860 the organ man clinics hotline at three four three 00:07:35.860 --> 00:07:37.459 five six seven three and welcome in our good 00:07:37.459 --> 00:07:40.319 friend You can follow him at yogi Roth the y 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:43.259 option as well It's a great podcast that he does 00:07:43.259 --> 00:07:45.339 and he also writes out some really cool columns 00:07:45.339 --> 00:07:47.819 there Let's welcome in our friend the governor 00:07:47.819 --> 00:07:51.759 from the Big Ten Network and now NBC Sports It's 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:53.980 yogi Roth yogi. I know you're back keys. How's 00:07:53.980 --> 00:07:56.579 the weather back there? It's kind of perfect. 00:07:56.639 --> 00:07:58.540 I was just talking to my wife on the phone, like, 00:07:58.819 --> 00:08:00.160 hey, it's pretty good. You know, it's where I 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:02.439 grew up. She's like, yeah, you're crazy. We're 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:07.100 not moving back. It's perfect. It reminds me 00:08:07.100 --> 00:08:09.600 of my roots, man, to be honest with you. So it's 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:12.180 nice to be back. It's not too hot. I'm in this 00:08:12.180 --> 00:08:15.209 little town up in Connecticut. Outside of the 00:08:15.209 --> 00:08:17.110 NBC headquarters and everybody's getting juice 00:08:17.110 --> 00:08:18.430 man. I'm looking forward to the season Yeah, 00:08:18.430 --> 00:08:20.509 it's gonna be exciting So I was gonna say you 00:08:20.509 --> 00:08:22.410 said I sent up a little try a balloon just to 00:08:22.410 --> 00:08:24.269 see what the reaction was and she she caught 00:08:24.269 --> 00:08:27.230 you right away Is that what happened? Okay. Yeah. 00:08:27.230 --> 00:08:28.870 Yeah, we've been exploring bunch of different 00:08:28.870 --> 00:08:31.110 places But I think too much family in Southern 00:08:31.110 --> 00:08:33.309 California and the waves are a little bit better 00:08:33.309 --> 00:08:35.070 here than they are in other parts of the country 00:08:36.299 --> 00:08:38.279 All right, so you can follow Yogi. And by the 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:40.279 way, subscribe to the Y option. Does a great 00:08:40.279 --> 00:08:42.460 podcast here. A lot of really good interviews 00:08:42.460 --> 00:08:46.340 and you get a nice new little sheet into your 00:08:46.340 --> 00:08:48.200 inbox. You don't have to think about it. Comes 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:50.820 right to you. So subscribe to the Y option as 00:08:50.820 --> 00:08:53.360 Yogi Roth joins us. Well, we wanted to get you 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:55.379 on last week and I'm glad we kind of didn't because 00:08:55.379 --> 00:08:57.980 now this whole Brendan Sorsby thing has kind 00:08:57.980 --> 00:09:00.639 of flushed itself out into the resolution where 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:02.899 honestly I was hoping it would get to where I 00:09:02.899 --> 00:09:05.360 think the young man steps up, takes his accountability 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:07.720 and now just moves on to the next level because 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:10.919 he clearly violated one of the cardinal rules 00:09:10.919 --> 00:09:13.919 that you do not break as an athlete in any level 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:17.700 in any profession is betting and now unfortunately 00:09:17.700 --> 00:09:20.580 in the country Yogi you know we've made gambling 00:09:20.580 --> 00:09:23.909 kind of I mean, it's everybody can do it wherever 00:09:23.909 --> 00:09:26.429 you got accounts all over DraftKings and FanDuel 00:09:26.429 --> 00:09:29.470 are, you know resplendent across all of the the 00:09:29.470 --> 00:09:33.289 platforms so I guess my question to you is this 00:09:33.289 --> 00:09:36.629 is Did this did this take too long to get to 00:09:36.629 --> 00:09:42.250 where we ended up getting? Probably but I think 00:09:42.250 --> 00:09:45.190 there's gonna be some elements that may be beneficial 00:09:45.190 --> 00:09:48.610 of going through it right it, you know, I think 00:09:48.610 --> 00:09:51.889 it forced the world to see that I think. At times 00:09:51.889 --> 00:09:55.330 you know people in leadership positions can step 00:09:55.330 --> 00:09:57.029 up and stand up for the right thing, which I 00:09:57.029 --> 00:09:59.190 think you saw the big 12 conference do that in 00:09:59.190 --> 00:10:02.649 a DS. Absolutely You know the call it the owner 00:10:02.649 --> 00:10:05.350 of Texas Tech. I thought at times he's fighting 00:10:05.350 --> 00:10:07.269 for the good of the sport, and at times he's 00:10:07.269 --> 00:10:10.210 fighting for the. Good of his team, and I don't 00:10:10.210 --> 00:10:12.990 think you can have both. Um and I think we saw 00:10:12.990 --> 00:10:15.679 that. You know, I'm glad that Brendan Sarsby 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:17.899 did what he did in terms of declaring for the 00:10:17.899 --> 00:10:19.519 supplemental draft I don't think he was ever 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:22.200 going to play but there was also a part of me 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:24.799 that like if this thing kept going on Maybe we 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:27.799 got to the point where the sport tried to really 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:30.600 fix some of the issues We can't ignore them, 00:10:30.620 --> 00:10:32.620 you know, they exist in college football It's 00:10:32.620 --> 00:10:34.659 the most challenging part of the offseason is 00:10:34.659 --> 00:10:37.259 there's a gray cloud sometimes hanging over the 00:10:37.259 --> 00:10:41.320 sport whether it's Rev share and then NIL on 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:43.379 top of it, right? It's clearly not an equal playing 00:10:43.379 --> 00:10:45.700 field when it comes to paying players We all 00:10:45.700 --> 00:10:48.139 know that but that's kind of the reality of it. 00:10:48.139 --> 00:10:50.120 Then you look at some of the rules I think it 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:52.200 got people really looking at the sport and saying 00:10:52.200 --> 00:10:54.759 whoa. Whoa. Whoa, we gotta change some things 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:57.200 I think in addition with if somebody's got two 00:10:57.200 --> 00:11:00.379 sons And none of them thankfully are gambling 00:11:00.379 --> 00:11:03.139 yet, but that's gonna be based on the research. 00:11:03.139 --> 00:11:06.240 I've seen that that's gonna be the new You know 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:08.220 addiction when you go to college it already is 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:09.759 So I think Brennan Sorsby, he's got a chance 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:13.220 to continue to work through his addiction and 00:11:13.220 --> 00:11:16.120 we've all been around addiction in some former 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:19.440 fashion and we know that it's not go somewhere 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:22.500 for a couple months and you're good. It's a lifelong 00:11:22.500 --> 00:11:25.860 mentality. So I think he's got a chance to really 00:11:25.860 --> 00:11:28.559 impact the next generation. I'm seeing these 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:31.460 young athletes or just young men all over the 00:11:31.460 --> 00:11:35.139 country. They struggle communicating. Everything's 00:11:35.139 --> 00:11:38.720 on a phone. while they're not drinking or they're 00:11:38.720 --> 00:11:43.259 not dating at the rate that they used to, they're 00:11:43.259 --> 00:11:45.120 even more embedded in their phone and now they're 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:47.980 gambling. So I hope, and I don't know him at 00:11:47.980 --> 00:11:50.139 all, but I would imagine there's gonna be some 00:11:50.139 --> 00:11:52.179 good that comes out of him from his perspective 00:11:52.179 --> 00:11:54.080 of being an ally to people that are navigating 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:56.620 those things. And you're right, like at the end 00:11:56.620 --> 00:11:58.200 of the day, Todd Blackwood, when I talked about 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:01.440 it, got consequences in life. Whether you're 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:04.879 my 11 year old or you're him. I still don't think 00:12:04.879 --> 00:12:08.200 we got to that point. I think the sport needs 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:11.240 to really take a hard look at every time you 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:13.100 don't get your way, you can't just complain to 00:12:13.100 --> 00:12:16.379 a local judge. And we've seen that far too often. 00:12:16.899 --> 00:12:18.620 And it's disappointing because that's the point 00:12:18.620 --> 00:12:20.220 of the rules. It's the point of the law. And 00:12:20.220 --> 00:12:21.919 I'll finish with this. And I said this with Todd. 00:12:22.419 --> 00:12:24.580 I think all athletes, myself included, since 00:12:24.580 --> 00:12:26.679 we're young, you know that you've got a skill. 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:29.600 You get a little bit longer of a leash. It's 00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:31.299 just the truth. You don't wait in line to go 00:12:31.299 --> 00:12:33.500 to the club. You get a little extra time to do 00:12:33.500 --> 00:12:35.919 your paper. You just have always had a little 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:39.039 bit different access. And I don't like that, 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:41.360 but that's kind of the truth. And I think we 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:44.220 looked at something right in the eye of a premier 00:12:44.220 --> 00:12:47.399 athlete who's making a bunch of money, not having 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:53.179 to adhere to fundamental rules. And that's a 00:12:53.179 --> 00:12:54.379 really horrible precedent. And it's something 00:12:54.379 --> 00:12:56.340 that's already happening now on a smaller scale. 00:12:57.139 --> 00:12:59.700 Hope that more eyes get opened up to hate just 00:12:59.700 --> 00:13:01.740 because you can play a game doesn't mean you 00:13:01.740 --> 00:13:03.460 should always get a bigger backyard when it comes 00:13:03.460 --> 00:13:05.519 to Decisions that you make got to be accountable 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:08.759 for them versus You know just complaining about 00:13:08.759 --> 00:13:10.620 them and then get another chance, so we'll see 00:13:10.620 --> 00:13:13.000 and I think you said something interesting there 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:15.840 You said you almost wish that it had gone further. 00:13:15.940 --> 00:13:17.759 Can you get in that a little bit more because 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:19.980 I think that's really interesting Well, I think 00:13:19.980 --> 00:13:23.200 about like where? the conference was going, right? 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:26.259 And ADs were going and other teams in terms of 00:13:26.259 --> 00:13:29.340 playing Texas Tech, that is its own issue, right? 00:13:29.340 --> 00:13:32.000 Like, okay, fine, put that to the side. But to 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:35.039 me, the greater people within the sport of college 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:37.039 football that I talked to was like, okay, at 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:39.279 least there's gonna be a reckoning now. Every 00:13:39.279 --> 00:13:41.320 AD you talk to talks about that moment that's 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:43.860 gonna come in college football. No one's saying 00:13:43.860 --> 00:13:46.639 that they can keep up to the pace of what exists. 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:47.980 And I know that there's a lot of articles written 00:13:47.980 --> 00:13:49.480 about, well, they keep doing it and they keep 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:51.440 finding the money somewhere. Yeah, they do at 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:53.879 certain programs, but there's also certain programs 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:56.139 that get crippled in other athletic departments 00:13:56.139 --> 00:13:59.500 that are other sports within an athletic department 00:13:59.500 --> 00:14:01.820 that are no longer going to clearly have the 00:14:01.820 --> 00:14:04.620 resources that they once had. And the one thing 00:14:04.620 --> 00:14:07.559 that hasn't changed in all of this is the percentage 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:10.320 of players going to the NFL. You know, like you 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:12.240 still, yes, you can be a millionaire in college, 00:14:12.259 --> 00:14:14.779 but you also still need to have a job for the 00:14:14.779 --> 00:14:17.440 next 40 years. You need to have a future. So 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:19.980 I just think that, you know, we were close to, 00:14:20.100 --> 00:14:21.679 I think, the whole thing saying, whoa, what are 00:14:21.679 --> 00:14:24.580 we doing? And to your point, it's all calmed 00:14:24.580 --> 00:14:27.100 down and washed over. Well, what if we keep the 00:14:27.100 --> 00:14:29.120 gas on a little bit? Like, what is the NCAA? 00:14:29.360 --> 00:14:32.519 What is the rules and restrictions? What do conferences 00:14:32.519 --> 00:14:36.080 have autonomy to decide to do? I think there 00:14:36.080 --> 00:14:38.559 should be some of that within college athletics 00:14:38.559 --> 00:14:40.519 now, because all conferences are not created 00:14:40.519 --> 00:14:42.799 equal. It's just the truth. And you look at the 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:45.480 money, you look at the talent and the NFL staff 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:49.580 sizes. Etc So I just hope some of these things 00:14:49.580 --> 00:14:52.200 get decided The challenge is the question that 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:53.879 all of us have been trying to answer for a long 00:14:53.879 --> 00:14:56.139 time is like who who is the one making those 00:14:56.139 --> 00:14:59.159 decisions? Right now your companies as a commissioners. 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:01.019 I don't do it. I don't know I mean get me back 00:15:01.019 --> 00:15:03.840 to third down in the red zone like Far enough 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:06.179 I could care, you know, but but it needs to be 00:15:06.179 --> 00:15:08.659 done and I think people are really thinking that 00:15:08.659 --> 00:15:12.470 and I think this event will probably cause Hopefully 00:15:12.470 --> 00:15:14.570 some change to happen. Well, and that's kind 00:15:14.570 --> 00:15:16.110 of where I want to get to next and by the way 00:15:16.110 --> 00:15:18.389 We are with the great Yogi Roth We call him the 00:15:18.389 --> 00:15:20.269 governor and an author of a book that you need 00:15:20.269 --> 00:15:22.049 to go out and get and it's still on Amazon right 00:15:22.049 --> 00:15:24.149 now five -star quarterback He co -opted with 00:15:24.149 --> 00:15:26.549 Joey Roberts. It's a great read and sign up for 00:15:26.549 --> 00:15:29.970 the why option football at the old Twitter verse 00:15:29.970 --> 00:15:32.649 and why option get it into your inbox great stuff 00:15:32.649 --> 00:15:35.500 he'll be in the fall for NBC Sports, maybe a 00:15:35.500 --> 00:15:38.799 little Big Ten Network, we hope, as we join with 00:15:38.799 --> 00:15:41.000 Yogi occasionally and a lot more during the football 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:44.580 season as it comes up. So last question on this, 00:15:44.639 --> 00:15:46.120 and I want to talk a little Oregon football with 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:47.480 you because I know you've been doing some dives 00:15:47.480 --> 00:15:50.960 now. Incidents like this with Brendan Soarsby, 00:15:51.179 --> 00:15:55.480 doesn't it amplify truly the need to put some 00:15:55.480 --> 00:15:58.179 teeth behind the NCAA because it seems like over 00:15:58.179 --> 00:16:00.179 and over and over again with how they got washed 00:16:00.179 --> 00:16:02.580 over with NIL. And then when these things come 00:16:02.580 --> 00:16:06.200 up, it just seems like the NCAA just keeps showing 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:09.399 up as this toothless entity that doesn't have 00:16:09.399 --> 00:16:12.080 any kind of bite. I mean, everybody's been talking 00:16:12.080 --> 00:16:13.539 about, like, we need a commissioner. We need 00:16:13.539 --> 00:16:16.960 a czar for college athletics and especially college 00:16:16.960 --> 00:16:20.600 football. Does this help get us into that discussion 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:24.740 a little bit more? Yeah, I probably don't know 00:16:24.740 --> 00:16:27.279 all the details like Rob Mullins would be a great 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:29.460 cast or bring on Kevin Griffith now from Oregon 00:16:29.460 --> 00:16:31.720 State the ad there was a dear friend and I'm 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:35.620 really happy for him but I Don't know. I would 00:16:35.620 --> 00:16:37.559 say this like on one hand. Yeah, you're right 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:39.919 Like no, you know, you can challenge the bite 00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:44.389 as you said about the NCAA fair Also, I've seen 00:16:44.389 --> 00:16:46.990 that bite, you know when I was down at SC and 00:16:46.990 --> 00:16:49.490 what sanctions did to the program I don't think 00:16:49.490 --> 00:16:51.210 there like there was a million appeals to that. 00:16:51.210 --> 00:16:53.649 It didn't matter Okay, so I still think there's 00:16:53.649 --> 00:16:56.149 probably an element of bite that we're capable 00:16:56.149 --> 00:16:59.370 of You know that the NCAA is capable of you know, 00:16:59.370 --> 00:17:03.850 we see at times so I don't think I know the The 00:17:03.850 --> 00:17:06.849 power or you know, like the purview around okay 00:17:06.849 --> 00:17:09.609 what you can appeal on what you can't what really? 00:17:09.609 --> 00:17:13.000 Comes about it when you do or if you don't But 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:15.279 I think the one thing that I learned this from 00:17:15.279 --> 00:17:18.220 the great Ted Robinson is the only time you make 00:17:18.220 --> 00:17:20.900 a coaching change is when the team has lost hope. 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:24.099 The fan base has lost hope. The administration 00:17:24.099 --> 00:17:27.200 has lost hope. I question that. I use that word 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:29.220 with the NCAA of like, is there hope that they 00:17:29.220 --> 00:17:32.420 can fix this? There was when they brought in 00:17:32.420 --> 00:17:35.980 the new head of the NCAA in Charlie Baker, just 00:17:35.980 --> 00:17:38.019 based on his political background and the political 00:17:38.019 --> 00:17:42.190 element within college athletics. But I don't 00:17:42.190 --> 00:17:44.690 think it's a stretch to say that it hasn't gone 00:17:44.690 --> 00:17:47.009 great when you look at conference realignment 00:17:47.009 --> 00:17:49.289 and you look at NIL, you look at rev share, you 00:17:49.289 --> 00:17:53.109 look at managing different NIL deals. It's been 00:17:53.109 --> 00:17:55.230 hard. And I think they're hamstrung a little 00:17:55.230 --> 00:17:57.809 bit too. So I don't know what the answer is. 00:17:57.869 --> 00:18:01.769 I think a lot of people say it's legislation 00:18:01.769 --> 00:18:05.210 from Washington. I don't think I know enough 00:18:05.210 --> 00:18:06.549 to know what does that really mean? Are they 00:18:06.549 --> 00:18:08.609 gonna set rules that are then going to be the 00:18:08.609 --> 00:18:11.170 rules? Again, I go back to like all conferences 00:18:11.170 --> 00:18:13.309 already created equal. Like when I look at the 00:18:13.309 --> 00:18:15.529 meteorites where I live in right now, right? 00:18:16.049 --> 00:18:17.690 You know, you look at the Big Ten and what they've 00:18:17.690 --> 00:18:21.109 done record -setting meteorites deals like should 00:18:21.109 --> 00:18:24.069 they put those meteorites together with every 00:18:24.069 --> 00:18:25.910 other conference for the greater good of the 00:18:25.910 --> 00:18:28.670 sport? I don't think that's what commissioners 00:18:28.670 --> 00:18:31.450 are hired to do. I think they're hired to represent 00:18:31.450 --> 00:18:33.509 their schools. So again, like you go to like 00:18:33.509 --> 00:18:36.140 even a bigger question. What is the role of that? 00:18:36.539 --> 00:18:39.099 What would a czar actually be like? I think those 00:18:39.099 --> 00:18:42.099 are the details that The pat chun's of the world 00:18:42.099 --> 00:18:44.380 the jen cohen's like these 80s that live in every 00:18:44.380 --> 00:18:46.640 day are just so much more suited to answer Than 00:18:46.640 --> 00:18:48.599 me and because i'm kind of with you. I I have 00:18:48.599 --> 00:18:51.700 the same questions Um, and it bums me out, you 00:18:51.700 --> 00:18:53.980 know, that's why I try to compete so hard on 00:18:53.980 --> 00:18:55.920 saturdays to take the helmet off of these players 00:18:55.920 --> 00:18:58.599 and tell their stories because when you're 50 00:18:58.599 --> 00:19:01.089 new players on a team like how do you get to 00:19:01.089 --> 00:19:03.349 know them? You know, few teams have a spring 00:19:03.349 --> 00:19:05.890 game. So I love what Dan Lanning has done on 00:19:05.890 --> 00:19:07.849 so many levels. And look what he's doing. He's 00:19:07.849 --> 00:19:10.569 taking his team to Japan here in another week 00:19:10.569 --> 00:19:12.910 or so. I just love those parts of how they compete 00:19:12.910 --> 00:19:14.970 to tell the stories of their players, because 00:19:14.970 --> 00:19:17.509 I think it's important, you know, not only to 00:19:17.509 --> 00:19:20.190 retain them and gain them in the NIL world, but 00:19:20.190 --> 00:19:22.750 to elevate them and develop them. And that's 00:19:22.750 --> 00:19:24.670 why I hope we just keep shining a light on that. 00:19:24.670 --> 00:19:26.390 And I try to do that around the Oregon program, 00:19:26.410 --> 00:19:28.470 because I think, again, like the lazy take on 00:19:28.470 --> 00:19:29.990 that was, well, they just have all the Nike money. 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:32.359 Well, I don't know about that. They've got the 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:34.519 resources like the premier blue bloods and big 00:19:34.519 --> 00:19:35.980 time programs in the country, but they also do 00:19:35.980 --> 00:19:40.119 a hell of a job of developing players and supporting 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:42.099 them through so many different elements of their 00:19:42.099 --> 00:19:44.759 athletic and academic journey that I think needs 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:47.619 to get highlighted. And I know you're gonna try 00:19:47.619 --> 00:19:49.420 to get up here for a game at some point this 00:19:49.420 --> 00:19:50.960 season Yogi And I know you're much more about 00:19:50.960 --> 00:19:52.619 the X's and O's than the stuff we've been talking 00:19:52.619 --> 00:19:55.319 about so far in this interview But I did want 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:57.339 to ask you about this team this season What's 00:19:57.339 --> 00:19:59.000 the one thing when you think about this Oregon 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:01.319 team this year? If you just put it down to like, 00:20:01.420 --> 00:20:02.779 you know a couple things that you think about 00:20:02.779 --> 00:20:04.420 when you just briefly think about the team Like 00:20:04.420 --> 00:20:06.019 what are you thinking about for this Oregon team 00:20:06.019 --> 00:20:08.079 this year? Well, they're one of the best teams 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:10.720 in my eyes I've seen I did a spring tour that 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:14.019 included Notre Dame, Ohio State, Indiana Oregon 00:20:14.019 --> 00:20:18.079 SC Washington Everybody other than really Michigan 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:20.359 and Penn State in terms of you know What would 00:20:20.359 --> 00:20:22.720 probably consider the top teams in the Big Ten? 00:20:23.019 --> 00:20:24.420 And I think Notre Dame is one of the top teams 00:20:24.420 --> 00:20:27.140 in the country and and they are at the top in 00:20:27.140 --> 00:20:28.980 that conversation I mean them Notre Dame, Ohio 00:20:28.980 --> 00:20:31.240 State, Indiana. I mean it was awesome and I saw 00:20:31.240 --> 00:20:33.079 them all within a couple days one another so 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:35.460 whatever that's worth in a one practice setting. 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:38.519 But I think I know the ducks as probably as well 00:20:38.519 --> 00:20:40.859 as anybody. And I just think that this is the 00:20:40.859 --> 00:20:43.380 next step for them. Now, does that mean they're 00:20:43.380 --> 00:20:45.380 going to take the next step and get to the national 00:20:45.380 --> 00:20:47.359 championship game? We'll find out. I mean, you 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:48.980 and I both know how many things got to go your 00:20:48.980 --> 00:20:51.259 way, the ball bouncing your way, making the throws 00:20:51.259 --> 00:20:54.359 like they did at Iowa, making the plays like 00:20:54.359 --> 00:20:56.140 they had, you know, throughout last season and 00:20:56.140 --> 00:20:59.180 some type contested games. I think they can. 00:20:59.259 --> 00:21:00.960 I think they're more than capable of doing that. 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:02.299 And I think they should. I think that should 00:21:02.299 --> 00:21:04.740 be expectation for this team is to get back to 00:21:04.740 --> 00:21:06.660 the playoffs and make a ton of noise. I think 00:21:06.660 --> 00:21:08.519 they're loaded. I love the players they brought 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:11.440 in up front. I'm a big fan of the skill players. 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:14.440 I think Dante Moore is as gifted as anybody in 00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:16.720 America at his position. I think the way they've 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:18.940 developed him is incredible. I know they have 00:21:18.940 --> 00:21:22.099 two new coordinators, but to me I'm a huge fan 00:21:22.099 --> 00:21:24.759 of one you can hire from within, especially people 00:21:24.759 --> 00:21:26.240 that have been around for a couple years like 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:30.950 they have in both OC and DC there. So I'm I'm 00:21:30.950 --> 00:21:33.289 so jacked for this team. I think they are built 00:21:33.289 --> 00:21:35.650 for what this season should be. Okay, so what 00:21:35.650 --> 00:21:37.210 do I think about? I think about the game at SC. 00:21:37.869 --> 00:21:39.930 That's the first thing that comes to mind. Because 00:21:39.930 --> 00:21:42.569 the Trojans, the Billboard Reads in LA, the time 00:21:42.569 --> 00:21:45.890 is now. And they looked the part. They had a 00:21:45.890 --> 00:21:47.730 different feel about them. They had a blue collar 00:21:47.730 --> 00:21:50.410 work ethic mentality that I saw for the first 00:21:50.410 --> 00:21:52.150 time in a while when I was there in the spring. 00:21:52.730 --> 00:21:55.509 I think it's gonna be an awesome game. And that 00:21:55.509 --> 00:21:57.990 game will dictate recruiting. I mean, you see 00:21:57.990 --> 00:22:00.720 it all on social media. So that's probably the 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:02.460 first thing I think about after I think about 00:22:02.460 --> 00:22:04.680 this team and the masterful job that I think 00:22:04.680 --> 00:22:06.559 Dan Lanning has done since he's taken over in 00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:09.180 Eugene. Well, Yogi, lots to talk about as we 00:22:09.180 --> 00:22:10.940 head into the fall. A lot more X's and O's, and 00:22:10.940 --> 00:22:12.779 we're going to look forward to having a regular 00:22:12.779 --> 00:22:15.900 visit with you here on the old radio program. 00:22:16.059 --> 00:22:20.259 So take care. Travel safe back to the wife and 00:22:20.259 --> 00:22:22.500 the family. And we're really looking forward 00:22:22.500 --> 00:22:25.000 to seeing you this fall. Yeah, but back at you, 00:22:25.019 --> 00:22:26.680 brother. Congrats on all your success, too. Looking 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:28.559 forward to getting together with you again soon. 00:22:28.900 --> 00:22:30.220 Yeah, you bet. There he goes. The great Yogi 00:22:30.220 --> 00:22:32.420 Roth. Follow him at Yogi Roth on the old socials. 00:22:32.460 --> 00:22:34.819 We come back. It's Mark Waszkowski joining us. 00:22:35.180 --> 00:22:37.720 There is Transfer Portal News afoot, the Oregon 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:40.680 baseball program, and Gunner is going to hop 00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:43.079 in and give us his take as the Oregon baseball 00:22:43.079 --> 00:22:45.180 coach comes on next on the Danny and Justin radio 00:22:45.180 --> 00:22:47.180 program. Fox Sports Eugene, Fox Sports Newport. 00:22:51.180 --> 00:22:52.799 for joining us tonight. Danny Justin radio program 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:56.900 rolls on for a Tuesday. Thanks for. Stopping 00:22:56.900 --> 00:22:58.579 by and letting us your ears for a little bit. 00:22:58.759 --> 00:23:00.759 Let's dive right over to the organ man clinics 00:23:00.759 --> 00:23:05.240 hotline at 3435673. Welcome back. Man We've gotten 00:23:05.240 --> 00:23:06.819 to know this guy over the last couple of years, 00:23:06.819 --> 00:23:10.059 and it's been great, and he's been a. Awesome 00:23:10.059 --> 00:23:12.559 contributor to our program by lending us his 00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:14.480 time, which is always valuable. It's the head 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:18.670 coach of your Oregon Ducks. Mark Coach, have 00:23:18.670 --> 00:23:21.349 you had time? I don't know if you have because 00:23:21.349 --> 00:23:23.490 of the transfer portal opening up like right 00:23:23.490 --> 00:23:26.269 as the Texas series is going on and then you 00:23:26.269 --> 00:23:28.630 had the super regional and then you're diving 00:23:28.630 --> 00:23:30.970 right into the portal and re recruiting your 00:23:30.970 --> 00:23:33.450 own players and then going after things to fill 00:23:33.450 --> 00:23:35.369 up. Have you had time to reflect on this past 00:23:35.369 --> 00:23:38.569 season and what what it was and what it ended 00:23:38.569 --> 00:23:41.119 up being? Thanks for having me on. I mean, this 00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:43.240 is great. Of course, I'll always come on with 00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:45.299 you guys when you ask, and thanks for the ask. 00:23:46.460 --> 00:23:49.720 Have I had time to reflect? Yeah. No, not really. 00:23:49.960 --> 00:23:51.980 I mean, literally, the transfer portal opened 00:23:51.980 --> 00:23:54.420 up while we were still playing, which is really 00:23:54.420 --> 00:23:57.839 an interesting timing of it. Um, but nevertheless, 00:23:58.140 --> 00:23:59.960 we're, you know, we're planning and we're getting 00:23:59.960 --> 00:24:02.660 ready for super regionals and the portals open 00:24:02.660 --> 00:24:04.900 and, you know, you're trying to invest all your 00:24:04.900 --> 00:24:07.339 time in what's important now, which is trying 00:24:07.339 --> 00:24:10.559 to win a game and, and beat a Texas team. That's 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:12.960 just freaking ridiculously loaded and stacked. 00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:16.660 Um, and so that's where we spend our investment. 00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:20.160 Then as soon as that didn't work out to our liking, 00:24:20.160 --> 00:24:23.720 um, you know, you got immediately, I was. I went 00:24:23.720 --> 00:24:26.259 immediately on the road. We had exit meetings. 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:29.039 We got on the road and we've been doing, like 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:33.259 you said, you eloquent, perfectly described pattern. 00:24:33.259 --> 00:24:35.240 We got into transfer portal, making a bunch of 00:24:35.240 --> 00:24:38.660 calls. But again, you know, we just, no, we haven't 00:24:38.660 --> 00:24:40.920 really reflected, other than the fact that I 00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:43.000 had a guy tell me the other day, hey coach, great 00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:45.160 job. You guys are, you know, for the last four 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:47.720 years, you're one only, there's only three other 00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:49.519 schools in the country that have made in the 00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:52.660 last four years, playoffs every year with it. 00:24:52.650 --> 00:24:55.789 with at least three super regional teams and 00:24:55.789 --> 00:24:57.589 you're one of the four. I said, well, that's 00:24:57.589 --> 00:24:59.529 great. I don't think I get a bonus for that. 00:24:59.609 --> 00:25:02.430 I'd rather be in a culture world series. I would, 00:25:02.430 --> 00:25:05.829 uh, you know, and, and it is, it is credit to 00:25:05.829 --> 00:25:09.230 the, I guess the directions could, um, and the 00:25:09.230 --> 00:25:11.069 credit to the staff and the players and all that 00:25:11.069 --> 00:25:13.470 we've heard all the cliches, but I really do 00:25:13.470 --> 00:25:15.970 appreciate our players. I love them. And, and 00:25:15.970 --> 00:25:17.910 now I'm trying like a son of a gun to keep them 00:25:17.910 --> 00:25:22.430 together and keep everybody here. And And that's 00:25:22.430 --> 00:25:24.250 an interesting formula. Let's put it that way. 00:25:24.569 --> 00:25:26.769 And you mentioned the timing of the portal. And 00:25:26.769 --> 00:25:28.690 you were actually the one that literally reminded 00:25:28.690 --> 00:25:31.049 us the day the portal opened when we were talking 00:25:31.049 --> 00:25:33.190 to you. And it was a surprise to Danny and I. 00:25:33.730 --> 00:25:36.069 But there's teams. You were playing last weekend. 00:25:36.569 --> 00:25:39.930 Other teams are playing now. How much does it 00:25:39.930 --> 00:25:42.599 set teams back? when the transfer portal opens 00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:44.799 and like you said you're spending all this energy 00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:47.380 toward that goal and why wouldn't you but you 00:25:47.380 --> 00:25:49.460 obviously there's energy that needs to be spent 00:25:49.460 --> 00:25:51.119 to get the recruits as well if you're going to 00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:56.299 be able to do that um how much does it put you 00:25:56.299 --> 00:26:01.079 back um i don't know that's a good question i 00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:07.250 ultimately you know the transfer portal I think 00:26:07.250 --> 00:26:09.069 the transfer portal is pretty much about money, 00:26:09.289 --> 00:26:12.329 right? So if I mean, there are some kids in there 00:26:12.329 --> 00:26:14.849 and you kind of got a sift through it the best 00:26:14.849 --> 00:26:16.990 you can to find guys that are looking for a better 00:26:16.990 --> 00:26:20.609 opportunity. Maybe a guy from a small school 00:26:20.609 --> 00:26:22.829 that's looking for a bigger school type thing. 00:26:23.009 --> 00:26:26.369 But I mean, it's with all the analytics and metrics 00:26:26.369 --> 00:26:29.230 that's out there. All the college coaches know 00:26:29.230 --> 00:26:32.250 exactly. It's not hard to get information out 00:26:32.250 --> 00:26:33.670 there. You know exactly what kind of players 00:26:33.670 --> 00:26:36.259 or pitchers that are available. And it comes 00:26:36.259 --> 00:26:38.619 down to a market. It comes down to how much money 00:26:38.619 --> 00:26:43.380 you got. So how much do you get put behind? Well, 00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:45.759 you probably can't make as many phone calls to 00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:48.119 initiate contacts with the guys that are out 00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:50.599 there and in the transfer portal. But at the 00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:53.440 end of the day, even if you contacted them first, 00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:57.519 if you had three schools contact them immediately 00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:00.400 after you did with way deeper pockets, guess 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:02.140 what? You're about to get a no pretty quick. 00:27:02.420 --> 00:27:05.279 And that's just the reality of it. Is there like 00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:08.319 a reason that you can understand or that we can 00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:11.079 all understand? Why the dates of the portal are 00:27:11.079 --> 00:27:12.700 the way that they are like does it have to be 00:27:12.700 --> 00:27:16.880 like this? Well, I don't know I think that their 00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:19.980 intent is to say well these these guys need to 00:27:19.980 --> 00:27:22.539 know where they're gonna go to school next year 00:27:22.539 --> 00:27:25.279 and so let's try to get these dates to where 00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:27.359 they can Know where they're gonna go to school 00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:29.500 and plan and get apartments and get their lives 00:27:29.500 --> 00:27:32.420 square Which I think it's sound reasoning, but 00:27:32.420 --> 00:27:35.549 there's Obviously we're still playing and then 00:27:35.549 --> 00:27:37.329 a major league draft doesn't even happen until 00:27:37.329 --> 00:27:41.529 July 13, 14, and 15 and deals get done a little 00:27:41.529 --> 00:27:44.990 bit before and a little bit after July 13, 14, 00:27:45.049 --> 00:27:48.789 and 15. So it's just not a reality in our game 00:27:48.789 --> 00:27:51.130 that really fits very well with this window. 00:27:53.950 --> 00:27:56.369 I don't know who makes those decisions somebody 00:27:56.369 --> 00:27:59.430 way higher than I am up in the food chain and 00:27:59.430 --> 00:28:01.710 You know, I don't know we just kind of go with 00:28:01.710 --> 00:28:03.569 what they tell us, right? Yeah, everyone's playing 00:28:03.569 --> 00:28:05.410 by the same rules Mark Wasikowski We call him 00:28:05.410 --> 00:28:07.690 gunner here on the Danny adjusted radio program 00:28:07.690 --> 00:28:10.529 the Ducks head baseball coach who's knee -deep 00:28:10.529 --> 00:28:13.410 in the portal I will talk about some of the subtractions 00:28:13.410 --> 00:28:15.670 and some of the additions that you were able 00:28:15.670 --> 00:28:17.589 to grab and then some of the unknowns because 00:28:17.589 --> 00:28:21.210 they do relate to the draft so coach the portal 00:28:21.210 --> 00:28:24.079 closes on June the 30th what What's your first 00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:27.559 step in evaluating your team? You said you had 00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:30.019 exit interviews. So obviously, that is the first 00:28:30.019 --> 00:28:32.000 step. It's like, all right, who's coming back? 00:28:33.059 --> 00:28:36.039 Who do we want where? And where do they fit in 00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:38.240 the overall scheme? And then you go out and then 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:40.079 you go, you know, I don't want to say it this 00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:42.119 way, but it's the truth. You go shopping. You 00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:44.440 got to go, OK, who can we get and where do we 00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:46.839 need to fill? So where does that process start 00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:51.960 with your team, your squad? Yeah, you kind of 00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:54.910 hit it. Very that's a good way to put and I even 00:28:54.910 --> 00:28:57.670 in one of my exit meetings I even referred to 00:28:57.670 --> 00:29:00.869 it as look and I grabbed my wallet I think I 00:29:00.869 --> 00:29:03.789 had $52 in my wallet or something like that and 00:29:03.789 --> 00:29:06.369 I pulled it out and I said hey look man I got 00:29:06.369 --> 00:29:09.470 52 bucks in my wallet my analogy with it Which 00:29:09.470 --> 00:29:13.470 is this like if you're asking me for 60 bucks 00:29:13.470 --> 00:29:16.569 like what am I gonna tell you right now? Yeah 00:29:17.150 --> 00:29:22.829 I got 52, man. That's what I got is 52. So if 00:29:22.829 --> 00:29:29.630 you need 60, I don't have a way of getting more. 00:29:29.930 --> 00:29:34.490 And so I was using that analogy. And you hope 00:29:34.490 --> 00:29:37.569 it lands. The good news is this. After exit meetings, 00:29:37.930 --> 00:29:41.369 it seems like we've been able to, at least informally, 00:29:41.910 --> 00:29:44.809 come to terms with the lion's share of our roster, 00:29:45.150 --> 00:29:51.579 minus the couple kids. we've done that. You probably 00:29:51.579 --> 00:29:53.960 saw some news yesterday, which wasn't awesome, 00:29:54.359 --> 00:30:01.180 that we had known for a day or so before. Unless 00:30:01.180 --> 00:30:04.680 we can probably work some magic, we're probably 00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:07.559 going to have some bad news coming out today 00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:13.019 or tomorrow. That's what we're trying to not 00:30:13.019 --> 00:30:15.839 have happen. Like I said, you know, I mean, the 00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:18.559 analogy I used in the office where I said, hey, 00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:21.200 look, you know, I mean, I got 52 bucks, and I'd 00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:23.680 be more than willing to give you 52 bucks. But, 00:30:24.019 --> 00:30:26.599 you know, if you're looking for 60 or more than 00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:33.059 52, I'm stuck. So most of the guys, good news, 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:35.740 most of the guys have come to terms and some 00:30:35.740 --> 00:30:38.400 really, really good ones on a roster. And then 00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:42.609 we got a couple that. You know, we're we're doing 00:30:42.609 --> 00:30:44.130 everything we can right now. Let's put it that 00:30:44.130 --> 00:30:48.089 way guys. So so coach what kind of? Disadvantaged 00:30:48.089 --> 00:30:50.539 I'll put it this way I mean is it going to be 00:30:50.539 --> 00:30:52.500 just a goal post that just keeps getting pushed 00:30:52.500 --> 00:30:54.099 out further and further because it's like all 00:30:54.099 --> 00:30:56.579 right I can get to this money and it's not going 00:30:56.579 --> 00:30:59.140 to be like a Texas or an LSU is going to have 00:30:59.140 --> 00:31:02.099 but I can get closer to them and then they go 00:31:02.099 --> 00:31:05.339 out and spend another five million dollars and 00:31:05.339 --> 00:31:07.319 they increase their budgets because the guys 00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:09.700 are at the top of the food chain keep pushing 00:31:09.700 --> 00:31:12.849 it further and further. So, I mean, is it come 00:31:12.849 --> 00:31:15.569 down to as well for your team? Yes, the money 00:31:15.569 --> 00:31:18.089 is necessary and there needs to be more of it, 00:31:18.089 --> 00:31:22.250 but it's also about what kind of atmosphere and 00:31:22.250 --> 00:31:25.430 coaching environment and building a player up 00:31:25.430 --> 00:31:27.250 that you can offer that maybe other programs 00:31:27.250 --> 00:31:31.349 can't because of you and your staff. Well, I 00:31:31.349 --> 00:31:33.069 mean, you try to go down that road for sure, 00:31:33.069 --> 00:31:35.809 and you've got a lot of data that can speak to 00:31:35.809 --> 00:31:38.710 those numbers, right? But at the end of the day, 00:31:38.710 --> 00:31:41.779 that has to be the players. that has to outweigh 00:31:41.779 --> 00:31:46.619 the compensation fees. And the compensation fee 00:31:46.619 --> 00:31:52.380 seems like that's the biggest driver. So I would 00:31:52.380 --> 00:31:54.400 love to be able to say, hey, let's talk about 00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:57.740 player development. And when we do, we say, OK, 00:31:57.819 --> 00:31:59.900 player development. This is what we've been able 00:31:59.900 --> 00:32:05.160 to do. A lot of times, though, that doesn't stick. 00:32:06.179 --> 00:32:09.880 So, how do you self -evaluate and improve in 00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:12.279 this situation and roster building and these 00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:14.299 relationships with these kids if like you said 00:32:14.299 --> 00:32:17.640 so much of its monetary Then is there a way that 00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:22.259 you can improve? Oh Yeah, oh yeah, there's always 00:32:22.259 --> 00:32:24.900 ways you can improve so I guess to your first 00:32:24.900 --> 00:32:27.099 question like when you start talking about player 00:32:27.099 --> 00:32:29.500 development I mean we can point to some some 00:32:29.500 --> 00:32:33.220 really fascinating stats, right? Sorry, I'm out 00:32:33.220 --> 00:32:37.059 of breath. I just Ran up the stairs. We've got 00:32:37.059 --> 00:32:40.079 a recruit here on campus, but okay So like when 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.119 we when we point to metrics we can just go hey 00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:44.599 look, you know our coaching staff literally in 00:32:44.599 --> 00:32:47.599 college baseball today We have more major leaguers. 00:32:47.619 --> 00:32:49.599 We've coached more major leaguers We've had more 00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:52.000 draft picks than everybody in the entire country 00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:54.099 Wow And so if you want to be a major leaguer 00:32:54.099 --> 00:32:55.940 We've been around more guys that have made it 00:32:55.940 --> 00:32:57.720 to the major leagues while we've helped them 00:32:57.720 --> 00:32:59.460 through college than any other coaching staff 00:32:59.460 --> 00:33:02.319 in the country I've got over 50 major leaguers 00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:06.529 and over 150 guys drafted, and until Tony Vitolo, 00:33:06.750 --> 00:33:08.410 who was the head coach at Tennessee and now he's 00:33:08.410 --> 00:33:12.150 the manager of the Giants, until he left, like 00:33:12.150 --> 00:33:15.670 I was number two, now, hey, we took over the 00:33:15.670 --> 00:33:19.150 top spot, great. So when those numbers can be 00:33:19.150 --> 00:33:21.069 presented to recruits, great, we hope that means 00:33:21.069 --> 00:33:24.410 something to them, and it does, right? But at 00:33:24.410 --> 00:33:26.049 the end of it, it's still gonna come down to 00:33:26.049 --> 00:33:27.789 comp. So there's three ways that you basically 00:33:27.789 --> 00:33:32.029 can get comp. more money. One is through NIL, 00:33:32.430 --> 00:33:35.049 one is through revenue sharing, one is through 00:33:35.049 --> 00:33:37.809 increased scholarships. I think the lowest hanging 00:33:37.809 --> 00:33:40.089 fruit, guys, everybody hates NIL. Well, it's 00:33:40.089 --> 00:33:43.650 real, it's here. And me stomping my feet doesn't 00:33:43.650 --> 00:33:46.690 matter. Like the kids are getting compensated 00:33:46.690 --> 00:33:49.309 in a combination of these three. So the biggest 00:33:49.309 --> 00:33:52.430 thing for me, area of improvement, I'm gonna 00:33:52.430 --> 00:33:56.039 try like crazy to... get our scholarships to 00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:57.740 where we're allowed to have them. And right now, 00:33:57.819 --> 00:34:02.660 the rules changed. So two years ago, two years 00:34:02.660 --> 00:34:04.259 ago, the rules changed, and we were allowed to 00:34:04.259 --> 00:34:07.440 have 11 .7 scholarships in our program. And then 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:09.980 they changed and said, now you can have 34. Right. 00:34:11.500 --> 00:34:15.099 We still have 11 .7. Right. You can get up to 00:34:15.099 --> 00:34:17.039 34, but you haven't been able to fund up to the 00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:21.260 34. Bingo. And so as we have, like, for example, 00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:23.599 we have an outfit named called the Diamond Ducks. 00:34:23.789 --> 00:34:26.789 The Diamond Ducks have now gotten involved with 00:34:26.789 --> 00:34:29.389 this and they're helping us fund more scholarships, 00:34:29.630 --> 00:34:33.750 which without them, my God, we have a chance 00:34:33.750 --> 00:34:36.090 to survive right now because of the Diamond Ducks 00:34:36.090 --> 00:34:40.789 and what they're doing, right? And the more we 00:34:40.789 --> 00:34:43.969 can do with scholarship funding, the better chance 00:34:43.969 --> 00:34:47.010 we'll have to be able to spread out funds because 00:34:47.010 --> 00:34:49.190 it doesn't really matter where the funds come 00:34:49.190 --> 00:34:51.070 from. The kids don't care. They just want to 00:34:51.070 --> 00:34:53.250 make sure that they're If they've got an offer 00:34:53.250 --> 00:34:56.730 for, you know, I'll just keep it simple. If they 00:34:56.730 --> 00:34:59.269 got an offer for 100 bucks and you're only offering 00:34:59.269 --> 00:35:01.010 them 10 bucks, guess where they're probably going 00:35:01.010 --> 00:35:04.389 to go? 100 bucks. Yeah, they're going to take 00:35:04.389 --> 00:35:05.730 the 100 bucks and they're going to say, well, 00:35:05.809 --> 00:35:08.590 the development's not quite as good, but it's 00:35:08.590 --> 00:35:11.269 still an awesome place. The people we're recruiting 00:35:11.269 --> 00:35:13.949 against are a couple that you listed, but all 00:35:13.949 --> 00:35:16.949 those SEC schools, Texas, LSU, Vanderbilt, all 00:35:16.949 --> 00:35:19.429 those teams you're seeing on a regular year in 00:35:19.429 --> 00:35:21.769 and year out basis in College World Series. That's 00:35:21.769 --> 00:35:23.550 who we're up against. And at least the good news 00:35:23.550 --> 00:35:28.369 is every recruit out there is like, man, Oregon, 00:35:28.789 --> 00:35:30.730 awesome. I would love to be a part of that. This 00:35:30.730 --> 00:35:33.730 is, yeah, you guys are in my final five. And 00:35:33.730 --> 00:35:36.010 the last thing we want to do is get out of the 00:35:36.010 --> 00:35:39.190 final five because just the offer is just not 00:35:39.190 --> 00:35:41.369 competitive compared to the other ones. And so 00:35:41.369 --> 00:35:44.710 we're trying to do everything we can and address 00:35:44.710 --> 00:35:47.449 this issue with those three ways of increasing 00:35:47.449 --> 00:35:50.610 your means. those would be the path of improvement 00:35:50.610 --> 00:35:53.980 as you asked. Mark Wasikowski has led the Ducks 00:35:53.980 --> 00:35:56.199 two out of the last three years to super regionals 00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:58.539 He joins us here in the post script and now right 00:35:58.539 --> 00:36:00.800 back in it You know doesn't end on the field 00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:03.119 of competition and now off the field and competition 00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:06.179 in the transfer portal by the way Angel Laya 00:36:06.179 --> 00:36:08.960 Colin Clark Tyler Holly have all declared and 00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:10.760 entered for the portal so they'll be playing 00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:14.539 somewhere else Unless Oregon can do something 00:36:14.539 --> 00:36:17.639 to keep them here, which is obviously still in 00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:19.940 the works Nothing's been finalized yet, but you 00:36:19.940 --> 00:36:23.440 did grab a kid out of the portal sophomore infielder 00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:26.380 Carter Johnstone from Vanderbilt. Talk about 00:36:26.380 --> 00:36:29.739 this kid and what you like because it might not 00:36:29.739 --> 00:36:31.780 have been a lot a lot of radars but this is a 00:36:31.780 --> 00:36:34.739 this is a pretty good ballplayer. I can share 00:36:34.739 --> 00:36:38.500 this with much with you guys regarding the incoming 00:36:38.500 --> 00:36:42.059 players I can't talk about incoming players until 00:36:42.059 --> 00:36:46.460 things are solidified. And so that's not really 00:36:46.460 --> 00:36:49.260 an area that I can go down yet. I can tell you 00:36:49.260 --> 00:36:54.119 this much. In general, we've had some ads to 00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:55.900 our program that I think fans are really going 00:36:55.900 --> 00:36:59.139 to like. OK, great. So now the next steps, Coach. 00:37:00.289 --> 00:37:02.889 until June 30th, this is all going to be up in 00:37:02.889 --> 00:37:05.230 the air. I mean, and you don't want that phone 00:37:05.230 --> 00:37:08.110 to ring because normally it's probably not going 00:37:08.110 --> 00:37:10.130 to be the best news in the world if it's coming 00:37:10.130 --> 00:37:12.570 from inside your program, but outside the program. 00:37:13.349 --> 00:37:15.190 Let's be honest about that, right? You don't 00:37:15.190 --> 00:37:17.170 want that phone call. It's not like somebody 00:37:17.170 --> 00:37:18.789 wants to deliver bad news. They're probably not 00:37:18.789 --> 00:37:20.050 going to do it in person. They're going to do 00:37:20.050 --> 00:37:25.090 it via a phone call. So, I mean, that ebb and 00:37:25.090 --> 00:37:27.489 flow because there's nothing's going to get really 00:37:27.489 --> 00:37:29.610 decided until June 30th. So, I mean, what's the 00:37:29.449 --> 00:37:32.489 What's the game plan now until the end of the 00:37:32.489 --> 00:37:36.030 month? Well, I mean, I'm on the phone constantly 00:37:36.030 --> 00:37:39.429 with agents. Number one, player reps for the 00:37:39.429 --> 00:37:41.429 current players that we have and player reps 00:37:41.429 --> 00:37:44.190 for the guys that are being recruited. So that's 00:37:44.190 --> 00:37:48.510 number one. Campus visits. We've got two pitchers 00:37:48.510 --> 00:37:50.510 coming in the next two days and one coming in 00:37:50.510 --> 00:37:52.110 at the end of the week and one coming in at the 00:37:52.110 --> 00:37:55.010 beginning of next week. So you're really active 00:37:55.010 --> 00:37:56.849 with those things. And then the biggest thing 00:37:56.849 --> 00:37:59.440 is this. between myself and my assistants, we're 00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.800 really on the phone. And I think you said re 00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:04.679 -recruiting your players at the beginning of 00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:07.920 this segment. I think that's fairly accurate. 00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:11.480 And so whether you're having coffee with them, 00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:14.519 sitting in an office, meeting up with them somewhere 00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:18.280 off campus and just connecting, yeah, all the 00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:23.159 above, man. We just feel this much. We've built 00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:26.280 this thing. to a good level. We've got donor 00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:30.360 interest now that has increased substantially. 00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:34.320 And yet, you know, we're still, as you can tell, 00:38:34.460 --> 00:38:38.420 we still are at a place where we haven't solved 00:38:38.420 --> 00:38:40.739 all the problems quite yet. And so we're just, 00:38:40.739 --> 00:38:42.880 we're fighting and scratching right now. And 00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.340 like you said, until the end of the month, that's 00:38:45.340 --> 00:38:47.179 just what it's gonna be. And so you're just really 00:38:47.179 --> 00:38:50.800 hoping that somebody that supposedly has said, 00:38:51.059 --> 00:38:53.219 yes, I'm returning and can't wait. It's awesome, 00:38:53.539 --> 00:38:55.789 coach. Hopefully that tune doesn't change and 00:38:55.789 --> 00:38:57.789 they come back later and say, ah, you know what? 00:38:58.489 --> 00:39:00.449 I don't know. I had to change a heart, something 00:39:00.449 --> 00:39:02.630 like that, right? So you're trying to prevent 00:39:02.630 --> 00:39:04.550 any of those things. And then you're trying to 00:39:04.550 --> 00:39:07.250 increase your roster and have a chance to where 00:39:07.250 --> 00:39:09.409 you can win an international championship and 00:39:09.409 --> 00:39:12.550 get to Omaha, which is obviously something that's 00:39:12.550 --> 00:39:14.809 right in the middle of our goal. Well, coach, 00:39:15.010 --> 00:39:17.130 I mean, things have changed since you suited 00:39:17.130 --> 00:39:19.670 up and held down the hot corner down there at 00:39:19.670 --> 00:39:22.789 Pepperdine a lot in the game. I mean, the only 00:39:22.789 --> 00:39:24.329 thing you ever really had to worry about is some 00:39:24.329 --> 00:39:26.210 kid wanted to go get a check from Major League 00:39:26.210 --> 00:39:28.250 Baseball. I mean, that was really the biggest 00:39:28.250 --> 00:39:31.130 thing. So now it's a wild, wild world. And, you 00:39:31.130 --> 00:39:33.429 know, I'll give a lot of these kids some shade 00:39:33.429 --> 00:39:34.969 because, you know, they might not be getting 00:39:34.969 --> 00:39:36.630 the best advice in the world from the people 00:39:36.630 --> 00:39:39.489 that are close to them. They're young men who 00:39:39.489 --> 00:39:41.690 are trying to figure out their way in the world. 00:39:41.710 --> 00:39:44.869 I mean, you know, 18, 19, 20 years old. If somebody 00:39:44.869 --> 00:39:47.030 was starting to wave checks at me, I don't know 00:39:47.030 --> 00:39:49.719 how resistant I would be to it. So I mean, I 00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:52.440 got to give all these kids, you know, a bit of 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:53.960 shade in that respect. And I know you do too, 00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:57.440 you respect all of them. But when you got guys, 00:39:57.579 --> 00:40:00.260 literally, I got I think I got, you know, between 00:40:00.260 --> 00:40:02.579 me and maybe two assistants, I think we got three 00:40:02.579 --> 00:40:04.639 guys on our staff that are making like over 100 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:09.099 ,000 150 ,000 or $100 ,000 a year. And, and when 00:40:09.099 --> 00:40:11.179 you got three guys on staff making over that, 00:40:11.219 --> 00:40:15.079 and yet these guys have offers of maybe my gosh, 00:40:15.139 --> 00:40:17.199 some of the higher offers right now are probably 00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:20.480 five times at least that number. Yeah. And you're 00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:23.800 going, you're going, wow. Okay. So, right? I 00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:25.460 mean, you, you know, and you look around the 00:40:25.460 --> 00:40:27.800 field sometimes of other teams and you go, whoa, 00:40:27.900 --> 00:40:30.840 man, that guy, that guy's, that guy's making 00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:33.920 more money than I am as a head coach. Isn't that 00:40:33.920 --> 00:40:37.510 crazy? Hey, that's the world it is. I can't fault 00:40:37.510 --> 00:40:40.789 the player. If you were a player, why would you? 00:40:41.010 --> 00:40:43.309 Why would I think this is awesome for players 00:40:43.309 --> 00:40:45.650 out there? You know, in any sport, I think it's 00:40:45.650 --> 00:40:48.489 a. a great opportunity for them to be compensated. 00:40:48.730 --> 00:40:51.130 I don't fault them. It is what it is. I don't 00:40:51.130 --> 00:40:53.389 even bitch about the system because the system 00:40:53.389 --> 00:40:56.909 is what it is. It's just as your competitive 00:40:56.909 --> 00:40:58.949 juices get going then, you just go, all right, 00:40:59.030 --> 00:41:00.429 well, we got to figure out a path to be able 00:41:00.429 --> 00:41:03.369 to nail this thing. And the facts are the facts. 00:41:03.550 --> 00:41:05.230 That's fine. We've talked about some of the things, 00:41:05.449 --> 00:41:08.250 but... You know, it's, it doesn't, it's not a 00:41:08.250 --> 00:41:10.849 complaint fest about, oh, this or oh that. No, 00:41:10.989 --> 00:41:12.989 it's just reality. This is what's going on. And 00:41:12.989 --> 00:41:14.969 for us to be able to maximize our chances to 00:41:14.969 --> 00:41:16.829 get where we need to be, what do we need to do? 00:41:16.949 --> 00:41:18.909 And so let's try to do that. And that's really 00:41:18.909 --> 00:41:21.949 our conversations internally in the office is 00:41:21.949 --> 00:41:23.969 like, Hey, don't bitch about it. Just say, Hey, 00:41:24.030 --> 00:41:25.110 okay. Well, what are we going to do? And how 00:41:25.110 --> 00:41:26.929 are we going to get there? And that's kind of 00:41:26.929 --> 00:41:29.070 where we're at. All right coach. Well as always 00:41:29.070 --> 00:41:30.449 we're gonna let you go. We know you're really 00:41:30.449 --> 00:41:33.269 busy We really appreciate your time and uh the 00:41:33.269 --> 00:41:35.409 fans the support that they give this team They 00:41:35.409 --> 00:41:37.269 need to keep doing it We're gonna direct people 00:41:37.269 --> 00:41:39.170 to diamond ducks as well to see what they can 00:41:39.170 --> 00:41:41.210 do to help out the program But go out and get 00:41:41.210 --> 00:41:44.630 them and again, we'll we'll catch up soon Hey, 00:41:44.889 --> 00:41:46.349 appreciate it guys. You guys have a great day. 00:41:46.429 --> 00:41:48.769 Go ducks. There he goes. Mark Wasikowski. We 00:41:48.769 --> 00:41:52.730 call him gunner the economics of college athletics 00:41:52.730 --> 00:41:56.460 crazy raising it's ugly head yet again in every 00:41:56.460 --> 00:41:58.599 sport i feel like we learn something every day 00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:02.940 yeah go out and re -recruit your own team again 00:42:02.940 --> 00:42:05.679 craziness all right come back danny justin radio 00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:07.880 program will wind up a tuesday with you here 00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:09.980 live for the bigfoot beverages studios fox sports 00:42:09.980 --> 00:42:16.000 eugene fox sports newpool former ncaa champ shannon 00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:19.650 sale who helped lead Central Florida to the 2026 00:42:19.650 --> 00:42:22.690 NCAA Super Regional Round in softball is joining 00:42:22.690 --> 00:42:25.489 Melissa Lombardi's staff at Oregon as an assistant 00:42:25.489 --> 00:42:28.909 coach. Sale will primarily be in charge of the 00:42:28.909 --> 00:42:33.989 Ducks pitching staff. Staff last year allowed 00:42:33.989 --> 00:42:36.389 less than six hits per game. That ranks second 00:42:36.389 --> 00:42:39.469 in the Big 12 while she was at Central Florida. 00:42:40.309 --> 00:42:43.389 She played Oklahoma. So another Oklahoma. Surprise, 00:42:43.389 --> 00:42:47.940 surprise. that tree that continues. Sam Marder 00:42:47.940 --> 00:42:51.519 and the Oregon Athletic Department have parted 00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:57.079 ways. So Shannon Sale will replace Coach Marder 00:42:57.079 --> 00:43:00.199 on the staff. So we'll keep developing this as 00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:02.019 it goes along. So Melissa and party making some 00:43:02.019 --> 00:43:05.460 changes. And Oregon they got one thing that got 00:43:05.460 --> 00:43:07.340 gonna have questions in the circle. He got some 00:43:07.340 --> 00:43:09.900 good young pitchers out there still but you know, 00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:12.809 you're gonna rely on a sophomore coming in, you're 00:43:12.809 --> 00:43:14.269 gonna have to probably bolster that staff. So 00:43:14.269 --> 00:43:16.130 we'll keep an eye on that. If you missed any 00:43:16.130 --> 00:43:18.050 of Mark Waskowski or Yogi Roth, go back to the 00:43:18.050 --> 00:43:21.590 podcast. Another great interview with Was where 00:43:21.590 --> 00:43:25.710 he laid out, you know, how the NIL works. And 00:43:25.710 --> 00:43:27.769 man, there's there's definitely schools that 00:43:27.769 --> 00:43:29.309 you would think, Oh, they don't have any problem 00:43:29.309 --> 00:43:31.590 they got to have yet. The pockets that are deep 00:43:31.590 --> 00:43:34.340 in some programs are just massive. What I think 00:43:34.340 --> 00:43:36.099 what's great about our show today is we got a 00:43:36.099 --> 00:43:38.079 chance to talk to yogi about a situation that 00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:41.739 seems to be an overarching thing in college football 00:43:41.739 --> 00:43:44.320 which inherently is very important in the world 00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:46.820 of college sports and we're also seeing kind 00:43:46.820 --> 00:43:48.880 of the other side of the coin with the baseball 00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:52.800 program which is not a money driven money revenue 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:56.599 driven program and so we're seeing sort of the 00:43:56.599 --> 00:43:58.199 the breadth of it all and how it all kind of 00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:00.440 works together so You know, I think there's some 00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:02.559 good obviously. There's a lot of things. We can 00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:05.800 have good bad and ugly Justin. I know We certainly 00:44:05.800 --> 00:44:09.320 could so again go back to the podcast Danny and 00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:12.320 Justin you can Relive the interview we just had 00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:14.420 with was and earlier in the program with yogi 00:44:14.420 --> 00:44:16.679 roth and we really appreciate Those guys coming 00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:18.619 on as we do all of our guests tomorrow on the 00:44:18.619 --> 00:44:20.619 program eric sorenson d1 baseball We'll talk 00:44:20.619 --> 00:44:23.699 a lot of portal with stitch head tomorrow from 00:44:23.699 --> 00:44:26.519 d1 baseball friday. It'll be chris burkhart Here 00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:32.070 on the program so Carolina hurricane we Didn't 00:44:32.070 --> 00:44:34.050 really talk about this much the Carolina hurricanes 00:44:34.050 --> 00:44:37.349 won the NHL championship over Vegas and the Golden 00:44:37.349 --> 00:44:39.429 Knights by the way are not bringing back John 00:44:39.429 --> 00:44:42.610 Turrell again after he led them to the finals 00:44:42.610 --> 00:44:45.349 And that guy's been bounced around like 20 different 00:44:45.349 --> 00:44:47.650 teams in the NHL not surprised by that I know 00:44:47.650 --> 00:44:52.710 a lot more about how much they like But the owner 00:44:52.710 --> 00:44:55.809 of the Carolina hurricanes is also the owner 00:44:55.809 --> 00:45:04.010 of your Portland Trail Blazers Tom Dundon who 00:45:04.010 --> 00:45:10.110 I just have to say this week Tiago Splitter is 00:45:10.110 --> 00:45:12.809 signed by Chicago Bulls as their new head coach 00:45:12.809 --> 00:45:21.389 and Tom Dundon's staff was interviewing candidates 00:45:21.389 --> 00:45:25.409 for Tiago Splitter's job during the season during 00:45:25.409 --> 00:45:28.699 the playoff run. Which but then he wouldn't interview 00:45:28.699 --> 00:45:31.280 them during the carolina hurricanes playoff run 00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:33.440 there was it was reported that they paused the 00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:36.780 interviews because he was focused on the hurricanes 00:45:36.780 --> 00:45:45.119 which Yeah, I don't know so tom Dundon is now 00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:47.079 gonna have to find he definitely is not gonna 00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:49.539 have Tiago Splitter So any of that taking the 00:45:49.539 --> 00:45:51.599 interim label off of Tiago and best of luck to 00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:53.239 him. I think he's doing great things in Chicago 00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:55.980 I think Portland let one get away my overreaching 00:45:55.980 --> 00:45:58.760 question though to you Justin is how concerned 00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:03.179 are you as a? Portland supporter not just guys 00:46:03.179 --> 00:46:12.159 who might be employed by the Blazers by Tom Dundon 00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:17.699 that his approach of I think penny pinching is 00:46:17.699 --> 00:46:22.559 too short -sighted to say his His desire to squeeze 00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:25.300 every last dollar that he can to say quote -unquote 00:46:25.300 --> 00:46:27.239 I'm gonna put it towards the team itself the 00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:31.760 players which if you take a look at the top slot 00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:35.719 in the NHL in terms of Salary, it doesn't even 00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:38.219 come to the midline exception in the NBA. So 00:46:38.219 --> 00:46:41.599 it's it's two its apples and machine guns Totally 00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:44.179 different ballgame It's no pun intended right 00:46:44.179 --> 00:46:48.340 so The next question is is that does it cause 00:46:48.340 --> 00:46:51.500 you concern that Tom Dundon's blueprint that 00:46:51.500 --> 00:46:55.300 he used with Carolina? Got them a Stanley Cup 00:46:55.300 --> 00:46:59.980 and that he could say well look see I did it 00:46:59.980 --> 00:47:08.639 me being Tom Dundon in Carolina, and so why can't 00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:10.280 I do the same thing in the NBA well? It's not 00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:13.239 gonna make him think any Thing else is gonna 00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:15.239 work. He's gonna sit there and say well look 00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:17.519 what I did in the nhl But are you concerned i'm 00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:19.320 definitely concerned if i'm a blazer fan about 00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:22.380 it 100 because i'd be too it's it's teaching 00:47:22.380 --> 00:47:24.960 somebody bad habits right and that might work 00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:28.980 in the nhl. I don't think that style of of running 00:47:28.980 --> 00:47:32.539 a team is going to work in the mba and You know, 00:47:32.539 --> 00:47:34.300 I think it's interesting because you talk about 00:47:34.300 --> 00:47:37.039 tiago splitter The other candidate that the when 00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:38.500 there was a few other ones But one of the other 00:47:38.500 --> 00:47:40.579 candidates that the Bulls were looking at was 00:47:40.579 --> 00:47:43.059 was Mike and Norrie Who is one of the remaining 00:47:43.059 --> 00:47:45.760 two candidates for the Blazers? Reportedly reported 00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:47.900 candidates along with Tyler Lashbrooke who is 00:47:47.900 --> 00:47:50.199 one of the assistants a pretty new assistant 00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:52.159 for the Celtics who would in my opinion be the 00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:54.679 sort of You're getting him at a low salary Not 00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:57.019 exactly sure getting the fourth assistant a bench 00:47:57.019 --> 00:47:59.019 and you're gonna give them the range to a franchise 00:47:59.019 --> 00:48:01.139 Which I think this hire is going to signal whether 00:48:01.139 --> 00:48:09.139 or not Tom Dundon is going to absolutely use 00:48:09.139 --> 00:48:11.340 the same blueprint in Portland as he has in Carolina 00:48:11.340 --> 00:48:15.199 But the Bulls also chose Tiago Splitter over 00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:18.159 Mike and Norrie who the Blazers I have as one 00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:20.760 of their candidates So does that mean that he's 00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:23.380 a better coach than him? Not necessarily like 00:48:23.380 --> 00:48:25.059 they're evaluating different things. I'm sure 00:48:25.059 --> 00:48:28.280 but like you said I Definitely think there's 00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:30.519 concerns like I don't think this was if you're 00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:33.500 a Blazer fan if you were rooting for a team You 00:48:33.500 --> 00:48:34.719 probably shouldn't have been rooting for the 00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:39.039 Carolina Hurricanes. So I hope the best. I'm 00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:40.980 always gonna be the optimist, but I'm not sure 00:48:40.980 --> 00:48:47.440 Tom... Dundon's gonna be pulled off of the way 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:49.619 he wants to run a franchise. So, let's do Dad 00:48:49.619 --> 00:48:51.820 Joke real quick. Oh, a joke! I know you got more 00:48:51.820 --> 00:48:53.420 to say about this. I got a fire from the bank. 00:48:53.980 --> 00:48:56.000 Woman asked me to check her balance, so I pushed 00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:59.519 her. Dad jokes! What do you call a moose with 00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:02.539 no name? Ooh. A moose with a no name. I don't 00:49:02.539 --> 00:49:04.880 know, it sounds like a good song though. Anonymous. 00:49:05.420 --> 00:49:10.190 Anonymous. I've been through the desert worth 00:49:10.190 --> 00:49:13.690 a moose with no name. Felt good to get out of 00:49:13.690 --> 00:49:18.409 the Alaska snow. Tomorrow on the program, Eric 00:49:18.409 --> 00:49:21.210 Sorensen for T1 baseball and we might have another 00:49:21.210 --> 00:49:23.829 edition of Justin karaoke. God bless, put a smile 00:49:23.829 --> 00:49:25.570 on your face someone else's they deserve it. 00:49:25.710 --> 00:49:27.829 So do you for the crew. Peace.