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Oxford's Eugene portions of this show are recorded

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strap in and be prepared I love growing the game

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I can guarantee you any other West Coast team

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that's watching this, I'm sure USC is gnashing

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their teeth right now saying, how come we couldn't

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have thought of this first? Interesting guests.

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Kelly Gray. Mike Parker. Coach Mark Waskowski.

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Melissa Lombardi. Max Torres. El Toro. Joining

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us. Sharp Opinions. I think if you're a supporter

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of the NBA, that you should at least have some

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level of interest in the WNBA. Because the things

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that interest you as a NBA fan should still interest

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you as a WNBA fan. That's just my opinion. And

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some smiles. Can you guess what position I played

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in football? Left out? No, I did not. Yeah, exactly.

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I had to think about that for a second. But yes,

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actually, I did not play. I was not big enough.

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Goose tried to kill me today on the golf course.

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Advance warning was given. It just apparently

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was not heard. I will dispute that in a court

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of law. It's Danny Havel. If you're driving and

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you're trying to do this in your head, pull off

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the side of the road. I don't need any accidents.

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Justin Grossweiner. I love to hear a coach go,

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we're going to focus on that bad four -game stretch

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the rest of the season. season we will never

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do that again that that might be a good point

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i don't know i mean maybe you could do that maybe

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that's another strategy danny and justin starts

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now on fox sports eugene and fox sports newport

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hello Welcome. Hi, it's out the Delta Triad,

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Crystal Palace, Fox Sports, Eugene Fox Sports,

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Newport, the Bigfoot Beverage Studios. You can

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follow us on all the socials, Danny and Justin,

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wherever you podcast Danny and Justin as well.

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It's the fastest 60 minutes in sports. We have

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a loaded show for you on a Monday. Thanks for

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tuning in. Oh, my goodness. It's hot outside

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and it's hot inside. We are going to have AJ

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Cannell in just a few moments, the voice of your

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Portland Fire, and then Adam Rittenberg. The

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rabbi is going to come in. We're going to figure

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things out with Brendan Sorsby because there

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is no more movement. Oh, my goodness. This is

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the best thing ever. Adam Rittberg is going to

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join us from ESPN. We're going to talk about

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Brendan Sorsby. We will also talk about Oregon

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football and where he thinks the Ducks are going

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to be this next year. There was a sugar ant that

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just walked across my little platform here. However,

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I'm Danny right over there. is Justin Grossweiner.

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We call him Baby J. What up, boy? What the heck

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is going on? Big 12, Texas Tech, Brendan Sorsby.

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I'm excited to have Adam come on and help break

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it down, because what the heck is going on? Well,

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there's a lot of stuff going on, including the

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World Cup, which we're going to try and... We're

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going to get to all this stuff. So listen, we

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have an hour. We're going to cram all this in.

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You want to talk about a packed show? We have

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a packed show. We're going to have good, bad,

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and ugly in the last segment. We want to talk

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about Egypt and Belgium in the World Cup. We

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want to talk about what happened in the World

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Cup this past weekend. You got to hang out at

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my house. You got to watch a lot of World Cup.

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I didn't. So you have a lot more than I have.

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So we're going to do all that. We're going to

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get to it. Yeah, we'll get over to the Oregon

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Man Collects hotline right now. at 343 -5673.

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Welcome in our good friend. He'll be our good

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friend. He is your voice of the Portland Fire.

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It's A .J. Cannell. You can follow him on the

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socials at A .J. Cannell with a K, not with a

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C, on the Oregon Mad Clinics Hotline. A .J.,

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welcome to the program. Danny and Justin, thanks

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so much, and I appreciate you getting the spelling

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right there. Not everyone does of the last name,

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so I appreciate it. Well, I just have to say.

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Here he goes. Here comes Justin. My last name

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is Grossweiner, which typically gets misconstrued

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as Grossweener. So I am very much very in tune

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with spelling and pronunciation and all that.

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And Danny is as well. Danny Havel. Yeah. Yeah.

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It's freaking five letters. I don't know how

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they screw it up, but whatever. All right. So

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we got that. We got that taken care of. So this

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has got to be a blast because. expansion team,

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Portland gets WNBA back, women's basketball is

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on a rise. So, I mean, it's got to be exciting

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for you. So talk about your arc with the team

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because, you know, you're a younger broadcaster

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that's looking to try and break in, and you have

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that opportunity, which I think is awesome. So

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talk about that arc for you first because...

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this is a team that is going to have a lot of

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support, and I know you feel that. Oh, 100%.

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And I don't know if it was possible to fully

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understand that until I was actually in the building

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in Moda Center for the first game. Right. And

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it was a sellout crowd. It was a loss against

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Chicago by 15 points that still ended in a standing

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ovation by the fans. And that, if anything, tells

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the story of what the Portland Fire fan base

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has been like. I think almost every home loss

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this season, regardless of what the final point

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total was, even the home losses end in a standing

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ovation in recognition of the efforts from the

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fans. So just from a broadcasting perspective.

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I've been around the block a little bit, although

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I still consider myself young in in my career.

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Dude, you are young. That's all right. You are

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young. When when we do these jobs, you know,

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at least like live event jobs, play by play jobs.

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For me, the most important element of that is

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the crowd and the adrenaline rush that comes

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with the importance of the game as reflected

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by the energy in the building and the crowd.

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And again, like I said, this has been better

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than anyone could have possibly conveyed beforehand.

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I think that's a credit to the Portland fan base,

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but also to WNBA fans in general. I've learned

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now in my first year in the league, it's really

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just a special league in terms of fan support.

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Well, and finding the right club, because expansion

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is scary. for a league. It's like they need to

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find, they do all their metrics. They kind of

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like, okay, so, and it's Portland and Toronto.

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I mean, two wildly, I mean, two different countries.

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So now they're finding like, okay, so how much

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success can we have? And I think they found a

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gold mine in Portland. I would agree. And, I

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mean, Kathy Engelbert, WNBA commissioner, was

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actually in Moda Center for the first time in

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a, you know, since the expansion became official,

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since Portland actually started playing. She

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was there a couple of home games ago to discuss.

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And I believe it was before, yeah, it was before

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the Phoenix game, I think, that she was there,

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unless I'm losing my mind. No, you're not. No,

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you're good. The Vegas game, pardon me, before

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the Vegas game. And it felt like a victory lap,

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to your point, like in the sense that she shows

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up to one of the two markets that they chose

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to expand, you know, starting this season, and

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the victory lap component being like, wow, this

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has just played out perfectly. I think we have

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as much fan support as you could possibly imagine,

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number one. And then the other point that she

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was making, just this would be more general about

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just the decision to expand, and they're expanding

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more starting next year in the WNBA, but just

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the fact that there have been players that were

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role players on previous teams. And this is literally

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lifted from the commissioner's pregame media

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availability before that Las Vegas game, that

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there were role players on their previous teams.

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that are now on these expansion teams, and they're

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stars. And they're, you know, bona fide go -to

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players. And I completely agree with her on this.

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She's a commissioner that, you know, maybe has

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been a little bit polarized among some of the

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fan base and even the players in recent years.

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But I would agree with her wholeheartedly on

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this, on that point about the former role players

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stepping up and that being a sign, as she said.

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that the league was ready for expansion. It was

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the right decision to expand because they had

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enough talent to do so. So I think Portland,

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we're seeing sort of both sides of that, that

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this was the right market for a variety of reasons

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to expand to, and that also the team is overachieving

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around some of those players that are rising

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to the occasion in these new roles. And I know

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Danny wants to talk to you about expansion and

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team building in the WNBA. But I want to ask

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you about these players because you mentioned

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there are some players that were role players

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on other teams. Some of them were fighting for

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spots in the league. And here they are on this

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Portland Fire team. And like you said, they're

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playing very significant roles. How do you think

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that's shaped the identity of this particular

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team in year one to have that sort of identity?

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Because you can understand if a lot of these

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players had chips on their shoulder. Yeah, I

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think. Megan Gustafson, after the Indiana Fever

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win, probably reflected it most accurately how

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a lot of these players are feeling when she said

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that, and Gustafson, she was a National Player

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of the Year in college at Iowa before Kaitlin

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Clark was. And Gustafson, 29 years old, has been

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in the WNBA eight years and has been on multiple

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teams. And she said that... Probably more, I

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think, talking about her WNBA path, because I

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know she thinks back on her Iowa days fondly.

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But she said after that win over Kaitlyn and

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the fever that she had never felt respected as

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a basketball player, at least, in any previous

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teams compared to here in Portland. This is the

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first time she feels fully respected as a player.

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And I think... To varying degrees, that's probably

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how a lot of these other players feel. Now, they're

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trying to build around younger players as well,

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and just bringing in somebody like a Carla, late

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22 years old, expansion draft pick from Golden

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State. I don't know if it's an idea where she

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wasn't respected, probably just the fact that

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Golden State had a bunch of other young players

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and Carla. was left unprotected in the expansion

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draft and she was just simply available and Portland

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liked her her upside but one way or the other

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whether it be some of the veterans on the team

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um or or some of the younger players that inherently

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in order to be picked selected in the expansion

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draft or otherwise acquired by an expansion team

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they kind of have to be left on the side of the

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road a little bit by somebody else um and so

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I think that that acts absolutely goes towards

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the chip on your shoulder mentality that it feels

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like all these players have. And the thing about

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this team that's so fun to me is that I had no

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idea how good they would be coming into the season.

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I didn't know if they were going to be winless.

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I didn't know if they were going to be, you know,

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66 % winning percentage. Like, I just really

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had no idea. But what was your expectation coming

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into this season, and how have they performed

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compared to those expectations? Because you knew

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a little bit more than I did, for sure. No, we

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didn't know anything more either. My expectations

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coming into this season were Alex Sarama, head

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coach, first year, has a completely different

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way of, you know, first year being like first

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year as a head coach in WNBA, youngest head coach

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in WNBA history. He comes in with an expansion

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team, and he says that, like, his system is going

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to fit well for an expansion team, but it's going

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to take time. Even he said that it's going to

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take years to fully really bear fruit. And so

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I'm thinking, okay, that makes sense. And honestly,

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you got Juju Watkins next year, number one overall

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pick in all likelihood, like this team is going

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to be in the running for that. Yeah. I mean,

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that's, that's, I think what everyone pretty

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much would be expecting. And even in the, in

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the expansion draft, which everything is happening

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on such short notice with the collective bargaining

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agreement, the negotiations going on. You think

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about it, Portland's first regular season game

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was on May 9th. The expansion draft, so the first

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players being acquired, was on April 3rd, so

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basically a month before the season begins. They're

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having to put together an entire team from scratch.

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And in that expansion draft, it looked like,

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to me, that Portland took the approach of going

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more with young players and upside and development

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long -term, whereas the other expansion team,

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the Toronto Tempo, was in a little bit more of

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a win -now mentality with the players that they

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were selecting, like a Brittany Sykes or Marina

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Mabry. Those are... Those feel like more win

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-now players, whereas Portland's acquisitions

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sort of felt like more long -term plays. What

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I think nobody expected was that some of these

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longer -term plays have stepped up more quickly,

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number one. And then some of the veterans that

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you thought might be like role players only,

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like Augustuson, have become go -to players.

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well and then the number one overall pick Bridget

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Carlton has by and large lived up to that as

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well for the number one pick from the expansion

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draft so things have just kind of come together

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a little bit more quickly and of course you know

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that the WNBA draft lottery is based around the

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previous two years winning percentage for the

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expansion team they're just going to take their

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winning percentage from this season But I mean,

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I think it's pretty safe to say at this point

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at seven and eight through 15 games of the season.

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Like, I just don't think that preseason conversation

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about draft lottery is very relevant anymore.

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That Portland is completely overachieved. I think

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they're going to keep on winning games. I don't

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necessarily know that their final winning percentage

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is going to be, is it going to be like this close

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to 500? Is it going to be better? Is it going

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to be worse? I still don't really know because

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I think there are other teams that are struggling

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and there are more wins to be had. Once the scouting

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report gets clearer and clearer on some of these

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players that have overachieved, maybe they come

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back down to earth more, as we've kind of seen

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during that four -game losing streak as well.

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So, I mean, long answer there, but I think the

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expectations preseason were basically nothing.

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I mean, nobody had any idea, and if anything,

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we probably thought they were going to be pretty

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bad in terms of win -loss record, but maybe with

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some developmental promise. It turns out we're

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seeing... that developmental promise with actual

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on -floor results in terms of wins. It's been

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pretty cool. The Fire at 7 and 8 take on the

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Minnesota Lynx at 10 and 3 at the Target Center

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in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Tonight you'll hear

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it right here on Fox Sports Eugene, Fox Sports

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Newport, as we are with the voice of your Portland

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Fire, A .J. Cannell. You can follow him on the

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socials A .J. Cannell with a K, not with a C.

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K -A -N -E -L -L. And he joins us. So I want

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to talk about the last question is kind of like

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the mix of what Coach Sarama is doing. And also,

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is there a built -in ability to have more success

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in an expansion team because of the wildly popular...

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expansion of women's basketball within the United

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States to be able to have kids, not kids, young

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women that are going to jump in and go, you know

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what? We can pull some Europeans in. We can pull

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some other players. But there's a lot of rookies

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on this Portland roster. So is there a built

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-in, you know, kind of blend between what Alex

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is bringing into this? Because, you know, we

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got... they're shooting shots in their socks.

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They don't even have shoes on. And then also

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finding kids that can come into the league. Let

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me do this second question first, and you might

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have to refresh me on the first one. Because

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my mind was kind of occupied. That was an interesting

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question. I haven't thought about it that way

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before. I would go, I mean, I would say, like,

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USA women's basketball has been really strong

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for a long time. I would actually go more towards

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when you think about how the game is becoming

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more globalized, that's something that this Portland

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front office, led by Vanya Chernevich, who came

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over from Golden State, Golden State Valkyries

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were the first ever expansion team to make the

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playoffs last year. And Chernevich, who's from

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Slovenia. And Alex Sarama, who's from England,

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I think they've clearly made it, I don't know

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if a mandate is the right word, but they've made

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it a priority to go after international players.

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I want to talk more to the front office and the

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coaching staff about that philosophy, but I think

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probably, if anything, it just comes down to

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the familiarity that they have with some of these

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international players and the scouting that they

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put in. Probably as well, something that helps

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an expansion team that can't just go and grab

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the biggest possible names right away from the

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states is that if you feel like you have a scouting

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advantage in Europe or otherwise, then you could

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probably find a little bit of an edge there by

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bringing in smart acquisitions that are undervalued.

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And you look at some of the acquisitions that

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they've made. And those are players that would

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fall into those categories. You know, I mentioned

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Leite a couple of times already. She's from France.

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They brought in Taya Oblak, Carla's backup, Carla

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Leite's backup, 35 -year -old rookie from Slovenia,

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the same home nation as the general manager.

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And Oblak has been pretty dependable in her rookie

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season in the WNBA. She was, you know, a champion,

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decorated champion across. different leagues,

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the Czech Republic, Turkey, and this is their

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first year at 35 years old in the WNBA. They

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brought in Frida Buhner as their second round

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pick from Germany, just 21 years old. Their first

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round pick was a draft in Stash. So that's the

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other interesting thing is that all the success

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that they're having, they didn't even have their

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first round pick, which in theory would be like

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your highest value acquisition. Coming in as

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an expansion might be your first -round pick

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in the collegiate player draft. And that was

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Ayanna Martin from Spain, who is staying in Spain.

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She's a draft and stash. I think she'll come

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next year. So a lot of their, I think, savviest

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acquisitions were actually international players.

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And I think that, to me, is kind of the common

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thread in terms of roster development with this

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year's Portland Fire. Can you remind me of the

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first part of your question? No, is it easier

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to build something? And does Alex, head coach,

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does he have a different way of approaching this?

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Yeah, I think he has talked about how this was

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a perfect fit for an expansion team with his

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system because it is different. teaching style

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called constraint led approach which essentially

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he would probably be better at explaining it

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than me but he you think about repetitive practice

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and how a player might take the same jump shot

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when they're warming up from the same spot and

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how his Part of his philosophy, this is definitely

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not the end of it, but just part of it is they've

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done a lot of research that some of that repetitive

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practice actually for basketball can be negative

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towards a player's performance. You know, for

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instance, hey, today at the end of practice,

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y 'all are going to stand on one foot and you're

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going to get your shooting in that way. you're

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going to spin around three times and then try

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and shoot it. Or you're going to wear a blindfold

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and take a few free throws and see if you can

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find the rim. So maybe this is sort of a more

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extreme example. There are other more subtle

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ways that they're putting this constraint -led

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approach into practice. But, you know, there's

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plenty of literature about it online. It's very

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interesting. Again, it's called CLA, constraint

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-led. And he's basically kind of trying to rewire

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the players' brains a little bit. And there's

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a lot that he's doing differently just in terms

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of player development, player instruction that,

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again, is very, very different than probably

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a lot of them are used to. But with an expansion

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team, a lot of younger players, a lot of players

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that don't have egos, that just are willing to

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embrace whatever their role is going to be coming

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from these previous teams where they had oftentimes

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a lesser role. That's why he thinks it's a good

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fit to come in and try this new system. He's

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our voice of the Portland Fire. You can hear

00:22:18.930 --> 00:22:21.549
him right here on Fox Sports Eugene, Fox Sports

00:22:21.549 --> 00:22:24.670
Newport. He is AJ Cannell. Follow him on socials

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at AJ Cannell. But this is going to be a long

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season. Well, actually not that long, but it's

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going to be fun talking to you this year. So

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thanks for being on the program. I think it's

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been a long early part of the season for Portland

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because they've had the most games played up

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to this point in the entire league. So it's been

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a bit of a grind for everyone that's with the

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team. We're looking forward to a little bit more

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of a spaced out schedule as the season goes along.

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But definitely look forward to catching up with

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you guys. Feel free to reach out anytime. Absolutely.

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Thanks, bud. So Portland Fire, 7 -8 on the season,

00:23:03.329 --> 00:23:06.490
looking to get back to .500 against the Lynx

00:23:06.490 --> 00:23:10.109
tonight at 5 p .m. right here on Fox Sports Eugene,

00:23:10.269 --> 00:23:14.230
Fox Sports Newport. Lynx are 10 -3 on the season.

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We come back. It's Adam Rittenberg. The rabbi

00:23:17.569 --> 00:23:24.269
comes back. The Big 12 is suing Texas Tech. Yeah,

00:23:24.269 --> 00:23:25.690
big development. Breaking the up. That's right.

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We'll talk to Ed Rittenberg next from ESPN on

00:23:28.650 --> 00:23:32.410
the Danny and Justin radio program. Good, bad,

00:23:32.410 --> 00:23:34.730
and the ugly coming up in the last segment of

00:23:34.730 --> 00:23:37.769
the program. We'll wind up what we saw from the

00:23:37.769 --> 00:23:42.569
weekend, World Cup, College World Series. Alabama's

00:23:42.569 --> 00:23:47.309
now been eliminated as Texas knocks out roll

00:23:47.309 --> 00:23:51.250
tide. 14 -2. Not rolling right now. No, they

00:23:51.250 --> 00:23:54.029
aren't. He just got rolled over there in Omaha.

00:23:54.130 --> 00:23:56.170
But let's head on over to the Oregon Mancoins

00:23:56.170 --> 00:24:00.329
hotline at 541 -343 -5673. Welcome in our good

00:24:00.329 --> 00:24:02.130
friend, the senior writer, college football for

00:24:02.130 --> 00:24:06.109
ESPN, at XM College Host. And you can follow

00:24:06.109 --> 00:24:08.349
him at ESPN Rittenberg. It's our good friend,

00:24:08.410 --> 00:24:10.829
the rabbi, Adam Rittenberg, as he's driving through

00:24:10.829 --> 00:24:14.529
Chicagoland as we talk about what's going on

00:24:14.529 --> 00:24:16.789
and what is going on, the topsy -turvy world

00:24:16.789 --> 00:24:19.849
of college football. Rabbi, thanks for joining

00:24:19.849 --> 00:24:22.400
us, bud. We appreciate you. Yeah, you bet. Thanks

00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:25.140
for having me, guys. All right, so Brendan Sorsby

00:24:25.140 --> 00:24:29.579
and Texas Tech and the Big 12 and betting and

00:24:29.579 --> 00:24:33.500
this scourge that seems to keep coming up in

00:24:33.500 --> 00:24:36.259
college football. I mean, how does the thing

00:24:36.259 --> 00:24:39.119
get played out? Because for our perspective,

00:24:39.480 --> 00:24:41.440
it's like it's pretty cut and dried. You bet

00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:44.650
on college football. Go ahead. You're done. And

00:24:44.650 --> 00:24:47.470
it's not like the facts of the case are not in

00:24:47.470 --> 00:24:50.710
dispute because even Brendan Sorsby's team, and

00:24:50.710 --> 00:24:53.009
God bless the kid, you know, I think he's got

00:24:53.009 --> 00:24:56.930
talent, but he admitted he bet on college football.

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That should be it. End of story. So why are we

00:25:00.690 --> 00:25:05.250
dragging this out, Adam? Why? Well, the why is

00:25:05.250 --> 00:25:07.549
because the NCAA can't enforce its own rules

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in the system that it's currently set up because

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you have. The ability, especially with a player

00:25:13.460 --> 00:25:16.140
like Brendan, who's got a strong agent and a

00:25:16.140 --> 00:25:18.319
lot of money behind him, and then he ends up

00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:21.220
using Jeffrey Kessler as his lawyer, who has

00:25:21.220 --> 00:25:24.039
taken the NCAA to the legal woodshed over and

00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:26.660
over, is able to get an injunction from a friendly

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local judge, and that's who it is. They can spin

00:25:28.619 --> 00:25:30.519
it however they want. That's how everybody outside

00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:32.339
of that state is going to look at that ruling.

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I mean, legally, it's a ridiculous ruling, but

00:25:35.740 --> 00:25:38.500
it's still an enforceable ruling, at least as

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it stands now. And then you obviously have the

00:25:41.250 --> 00:25:44.009
support from the attorney general's office in

00:25:44.009 --> 00:25:46.990
the state, which is telling the Big 12 if you

00:25:46.990 --> 00:25:49.529
sanction Texas Tech or if you sanction Brendan,

00:25:49.869 --> 00:25:52.690
you're going to be subject to legal action. And

00:25:52.690 --> 00:25:55.750
then obviously the counter lawsuits today I think

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were significant. Basically both sides are digging

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in. Texas Tech clearly wants Brendan Sorsby to

00:26:00.450 --> 00:26:03.890
not only recover from his addiction but play

00:26:03.890 --> 00:26:08.250
for them. And the Big 12 clearly wants to penalize

00:26:08.250 --> 00:26:10.309
him and ensure that he doesn't. play for texas

00:26:10.309 --> 00:26:13.069
tech so that that's where we have it it's a standoff

00:26:13.069 --> 00:26:17.309
between the conference and the school and there's

00:26:17.309 --> 00:26:19.430
obviously a lot of legal maneuvering going on

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with the you know different with both sides but

00:26:22.130 --> 00:26:24.230
obviously a multiple states involved now too

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and of course they so they have this new lawsuit

00:26:26.990 --> 00:26:30.089
now for the temporary injunction and it's it's

00:26:30.089 --> 00:26:32.309
classic almost like american politics where they

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don't like a ruling so they take it to a higher

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court so i guess my question is like Is this

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where it stops? Or do you think this is just

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going to keep on going higher and higher? Because

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it just seems like one of those things where,

00:26:43.309 --> 00:26:46.029
like, I just don't know where this ends exactly.

00:26:47.089 --> 00:26:49.349
Well, right. And, you know, I think, again, the

00:26:49.349 --> 00:26:53.470
fact that both sides are so dug in, it will be

00:26:53.470 --> 00:26:56.230
interesting because obviously there's more support

00:26:56.230 --> 00:26:59.289
on the side of the Big 12 with all of its other

00:26:59.289 --> 00:27:01.970
members agreeing that this is the right thing

00:27:01.970 --> 00:27:04.490
to do to prevent him from playing. There's support.

00:27:05.049 --> 00:27:07.170
from multiple state attorney generals' offices

00:27:07.170 --> 00:27:10.470
saying that the letter that was sent from the

00:27:10.470 --> 00:27:13.250
Texas attorney general last week doesn't have

00:27:13.250 --> 00:27:16.329
merit and that the Big 12 should be able to enforce

00:27:16.329 --> 00:27:19.630
its bylaws independently and be able to sanction

00:27:19.630 --> 00:27:22.730
a member as it sees fit. I mean, it's not apples

00:27:22.730 --> 00:27:24.849
to apples, but obviously the Michigan situation

00:27:24.849 --> 00:27:28.130
a few years ago in the Big 10, there was no legal

00:27:28.130 --> 00:27:31.470
pushback against the Big 10's ability to suspend

00:27:31.470 --> 00:27:34.019
Jim Harbaugh during the season. That was their

00:27:34.019 --> 00:27:36.220
right as a conference, and certainly Michigan

00:27:36.220 --> 00:27:40.220
and its fans and certain political folks in that

00:27:40.220 --> 00:27:42.500
state didn't agree, but you didn't have this

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playing out the way it has. I think part of it

00:27:46.500 --> 00:27:49.359
is the school involved. Part of it is who their

00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:53.819
super booster is, who believes he's the one to

00:27:53.819 --> 00:27:56.680
change college athletics. That's going on simultaneously

00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:00.779
here. I'll just say it to you guys. Wouldn't

00:28:00.779 --> 00:28:03.799
college, was college athletics better when we

00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:05.339
didn't have to hear about Cody Campbell every

00:28:05.339 --> 00:28:09.319
day? Yes. I mean, it just was. And regardless

00:28:09.319 --> 00:28:11.660
of how you feel about player compensation or

00:28:11.660 --> 00:28:14.519
cooling media rights or a congressional bill,

00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:16.400
the fact that we have to talk about this guy

00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:19.859
every single day is not a good thing. And we're

00:28:19.859 --> 00:28:21.420
talking about it right now, and we're going to

00:28:21.420 --> 00:28:23.160
continue to talk about it until there's a resolution

00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:25.880
in this Sorsby situation. Absolutely. And you

00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:28.680
can hear his frustration in his voice. At ESPN

00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:30.839
Rittenberg, he joins us. It's the great Rabbi

00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:32.980
Adam Rittenberg joining us on the Danny Justin

00:28:32.980 --> 00:28:36.160
Radio program. So I think this, and I think it's

00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:37.920
getting washed over. a little bit and i want

00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:39.920
to focus on this a bit because you touched on

00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:42.839
it right from the beginning is the toothless

00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:47.400
the the lack of ability for the ncaa to get in

00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:51.319
and really dig in and enforce and manage what

00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:53.799
goes on in college athletics especially for football

00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:56.819
because that's the revenue generator so adam

00:28:56.819 --> 00:29:01.269
doesn't this kind of amplify how The NCAA needs

00:29:01.269 --> 00:29:04.809
to figure out how they can become more relevant

00:29:04.809 --> 00:29:07.569
when it comes to the entire conversation, when

00:29:07.569 --> 00:29:10.869
it comes to managing college athletics. Well,

00:29:10.890 --> 00:29:13.329
again, legally, they do need help. I mean, this

00:29:13.329 --> 00:29:15.930
is, you know, the cry for federal help and congressional

00:29:15.930 --> 00:29:20.130
help is amplified by this, which is the irony

00:29:20.130 --> 00:29:22.970
here. Cody Campbell's been behind the Saving

00:29:22.970 --> 00:29:26.349
College Sports Act and has pushed back against

00:29:26.349 --> 00:29:29.549
the Big Ten and the SEC's concerns of it. But

00:29:29.549 --> 00:29:33.880
again, it does. does require some type of action

00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:38.559
at that level to allow the NCAA to enforce what

00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:41.859
everyone pretty much agrees is a good rule and

00:29:41.859 --> 00:29:45.539
then not be subject. to an injunction, not be

00:29:45.539 --> 00:29:48.319
subject to you'll find the friendly local judge

00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:51.019
and make the exception for little Brendan or

00:29:51.019 --> 00:29:53.839
little Trinidad or whoever it is. Because that's

00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:56.019
where we're at right now. I mean, essentially,

00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:01.140
the sport went from being a largely beloved sport,

00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:03.579
but probably an unfair sport because of the way

00:30:03.579 --> 00:30:06.420
players were not being compensated at all for

00:30:06.420 --> 00:30:09.240
their work for decades and decades, to a sport

00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:11.220
that is much more equitable for the players,

00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:13.339
but essentially one that you've turned over to

00:30:13.339 --> 00:30:15.250
the players. Like, if you were to ask people

00:30:15.250 --> 00:30:17.910
in college athletics now who runs college sports,

00:30:18.089 --> 00:30:21.630
the only correct answer is the players, their

00:30:21.630 --> 00:30:23.970
agents, and their attorneys. They run college

00:30:23.970 --> 00:30:27.609
athletics. Nobody else does anymore. And until

00:30:27.609 --> 00:30:31.150
that changes, these situations, like Charlie

00:30:31.150 --> 00:30:33.710
Baker's statement, I think it was today, about

00:30:33.710 --> 00:30:37.349
the residual effect of not resolving the Sorzi

00:30:37.349 --> 00:30:39.529
case and what could happen with other lawsuits,

00:30:39.789 --> 00:30:42.920
like, he's not wrong. Because everybody wants

00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:45.160
to win. Everybody wants to get an edge. And they

00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:46.960
may all be saying the right things about how

00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:49.640
this is wrong for Texas Tech. But if they have

00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:52.119
a player in the same situation, you better believe

00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:54.039
they're going to find a judge and get an injunction.

00:30:54.299 --> 00:30:56.720
And in many cases, find a way for that player

00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:58.599
to be allowed to play. So I don't want to say

00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:00.980
it this way, but if you were a betting man, is

00:31:00.980 --> 00:31:04.410
Brendan Sorsby going to play this year? You know,

00:31:04.470 --> 00:31:10.170
I'm pretty cynical about this since the initial

00:31:10.170 --> 00:31:13.509
injunction was granted. And so I think he will

00:31:13.509 --> 00:31:16.970
in some form or fashion. But there's a lot of

00:31:16.970 --> 00:31:19.109
pressure now, right, on Texas Tech. I mean, they

00:31:19.109 --> 00:31:21.490
are really, you know, backs against the wall.

00:31:21.809 --> 00:31:24.509
Everybody else is against this in their conference.

00:31:24.650 --> 00:31:26.650
Pretty much everybody else around the country

00:31:26.650 --> 00:31:31.160
is against this. But they are emboldened by the

00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:33.240
injunction that they received. They're emboldened

00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:36.480
by the relationships they have with state politicians

00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:39.900
in a very powerful state like Texas. They're

00:31:39.900 --> 00:31:43.190
emboldened by who Cody Campbell is. it's just

00:31:43.190 --> 00:31:44.809
a tough one to predict. I think a lot of schools

00:31:44.809 --> 00:31:47.789
would fold because they would see the morality

00:31:47.789 --> 00:31:50.269
in this. And here's the thing. They put together

00:31:50.269 --> 00:31:52.930
that video last week, which was widely panned,

00:31:52.930 --> 00:31:55.150
and rightfully so. But there was so much in that

00:31:55.150 --> 00:31:58.569
video about addiction and mental health and supporting

00:31:58.569 --> 00:32:00.690
Brendan Sorsby through this. You can still do

00:32:00.690 --> 00:32:04.809
that. That's what we've said all along. He can

00:32:04.809 --> 00:32:06.950
practice with the team. He can be part of the

00:32:06.950 --> 00:32:09.849
quarterback meeting. But it just comes across

00:32:09.849 --> 00:32:13.029
as insincere when you're so tied to him playing

00:32:13.029 --> 00:32:16.529
as part of his recovery. We all know why you

00:32:16.529 --> 00:32:18.650
want him to play. It's why you paid him all the

00:32:18.650 --> 00:32:21.470
money coming off of a playoff appearance to replace

00:32:21.470 --> 00:32:24.230
a quarterback who wasn't ultimately good enough

00:32:24.230 --> 00:32:26.589
to win in the playoff. That's why he's there.

00:32:26.990 --> 00:32:30.269
And no matter what they say about this is good

00:32:30.269 --> 00:32:32.809
for his career and good for his recovery, no

00:32:32.809 --> 00:32:35.269
one's really going to nod their head in agreement.

00:32:35.849 --> 00:32:38.089
And you mentioned earlier about how the players

00:32:38.089 --> 00:32:39.569
are running college football at this point. And

00:32:39.569 --> 00:32:41.150
I think that fact's really key. And something

00:32:41.150 --> 00:32:43.230
Danny was talking to me about and kind of questioning

00:32:43.230 --> 00:32:44.950
right after this happened was, like, how did

00:32:44.950 --> 00:32:48.690
Texas Tech not ask him if there were any situations

00:32:48.690 --> 00:32:50.950
sort of like this that they need to know about?

00:32:51.210 --> 00:32:53.710
And I guess my response was that I don't think

00:32:53.710 --> 00:32:55.390
that a school is going to— They want to ask the

00:32:55.390 --> 00:32:56.650
question. They're not going to want to ask that

00:32:56.650 --> 00:32:58.490
question because they're placating to the players,

00:32:58.609 --> 00:33:00.069
right? They want to get the player—they're recruiting

00:33:00.069 --> 00:33:02.009
the player. Like, the player has the power, and

00:33:02.009 --> 00:33:04.049
they want the player to come to them. So isn't

00:33:04.049 --> 00:33:05.960
that sort of how these relationships— are at

00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:09.380
this point yeah although again i don't think

00:33:09.380 --> 00:33:12.920
um that that they would you know ruin their ability

00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:16.579
to attract other players if they said hey you

00:33:16.579 --> 00:33:18.519
know what we obviously didn't know about this

00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:20.480
i mean there's no way they would have recruited

00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:22.119
brennan sorsby if they knew about this like i

00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:24.579
totally believe because again it's been such

00:33:24.579 --> 00:33:28.500
a a clear line in college sports. I covered the

00:33:28.500 --> 00:33:31.700
situation much closer in Iowa, the state of Iowa,

00:33:31.779 --> 00:33:35.059
when that state executed a raid against college

00:33:35.059 --> 00:33:38.299
athletes for gambling while in athletic facilities

00:33:38.299 --> 00:33:41.019
at places like Iowa and Iowa State. And these

00:33:41.019 --> 00:33:44.720
were much fewer bets. I mean, Hunter Decker is

00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:46.859
the starting quarterback at Iowa State. He lost

00:33:46.859 --> 00:33:50.259
his eligibility for good based on one bet. on

00:33:50.259 --> 00:33:52.880
Iowa State football to win his freshman year

00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:54.579
when he wasn't even playing. You know, there

00:33:54.579 --> 00:33:56.539
were other athletes that were strung along by

00:33:56.539 --> 00:33:59.519
the NCAA. I'll just say it, were treated unfairly

00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:03.039
by the NCAA and ultimately lost their eligibility

00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:06.440
for not even betting on their team. And so this

00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:09.340
is how seriously it's been taken. You could argue

00:34:09.340 --> 00:34:13.059
it has been punitive, the policies that the NCAA

00:34:13.059 --> 00:34:16.019
has had in the past. But everybody agrees. If

00:34:16.019 --> 00:34:18.719
you are actively betting on your sport, on your

00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:21.900
team, over and over and over, you know, you then

00:34:21.900 --> 00:34:25.039
forfeit the right to play. I mean, it's just

00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:27.300
the scene is that way, and there's such agreement

00:34:27.300 --> 00:34:29.400
across the board that's the right way to go.

00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:34.440
So let's now get back to what's going to happen

00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:39.179
this fall. So you put out a really in -depth

00:34:39.179 --> 00:34:43.650
evaluation of the teams in the Big Ten. As we

00:34:43.650 --> 00:34:46.510
head to the fall. So what's your evaluation of

00:34:46.510 --> 00:34:50.670
Oregon? Because Dante Moore and the plethora

00:34:50.670 --> 00:34:53.710
of skill positions. And there's still some questions

00:34:53.710 --> 00:34:56.329
on the offensive defensive line. There might

00:34:56.329 --> 00:34:59.329
be some other questions defensively. New coordinators

00:34:59.329 --> 00:35:02.369
on both sides of the football for Oregon. But

00:35:02.369 --> 00:35:04.789
Dan Lanning seems to be building something that's

00:35:04.789 --> 00:35:07.389
on an arc. You know, he's made one step and then

00:35:07.389 --> 00:35:09.610
another step. Get to the semifinals last year.

00:35:09.809 --> 00:35:13.539
Is this the year for Oregon? Yeah, I think it

00:35:13.539 --> 00:35:15.179
should be. I mean, this is a two -year projection,

00:35:15.619 --> 00:35:18.639
so it's 2026 and 2027, which is obviously hard

00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:21.559
because so much changes year to year. And just

00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:23.820
candidly, if this was a one -year projection,

00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:26.340
Oregon would be higher than four on my power

00:35:26.340 --> 00:35:29.079
rankings. They lose a lot. They're going to lose

00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:31.380
a ton of players after this year, and they've

00:35:31.380 --> 00:35:33.880
certainly shown the ability. to recruit from

00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:36.059
high school, to recruit from the portal. They've

00:35:36.059 --> 00:35:37.980
developed well. They haven't had a ton of staff

00:35:37.980 --> 00:35:41.360
turnover, even though they did lose their coordinators

00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:44.500
this past year. But I look at Oregon as a team

00:35:44.500 --> 00:35:47.199
that has a lot of the ingredients. needed to

00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:49.579
compete for a national championship your offensive

00:35:49.579 --> 00:35:51.739
line might be the only spot that you're just

00:35:51.739 --> 00:35:54.460
looking how do they fill those gaps how do they

00:35:54.460 --> 00:35:56.860
build the depth that's necessary to withstand

00:35:56.860 --> 00:35:59.920
you know what could be a 16 or 17 game season

00:35:59.920 --> 00:36:02.079
but you have the quarterback you have a defensive

00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:04.760
front i think they'll be better at receiver than

00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:08.699
they were last year they always have enough options

00:36:08.699 --> 00:36:10.710
to carry the ball even though they struggled

00:36:10.710 --> 00:36:13.610
with injuries at the end of last year. The only

00:36:13.610 --> 00:36:16.250
question with Oregon, and really the big question

00:36:16.250 --> 00:36:19.329
around Dan at this point, is what's up with these

00:36:19.329 --> 00:36:22.809
blowout losses? Why has Oregon been blown out

00:36:22.809 --> 00:36:25.989
in the last two playoffs, and how does that not

00:36:25.989 --> 00:36:30.179
happen again? Oregon certainly is talented enough

00:36:30.179 --> 00:36:33.739
to go toe -to -toe with anybody that I see going

00:36:33.739 --> 00:36:36.719
into the season, yet they have those two big

00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:39.019
stains on their resume and how they ended the

00:36:39.019 --> 00:36:41.280
last couple of seasons. So I talked with Dan

00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:43.739
about that. I think he isn't somebody who lingers

00:36:43.739 --> 00:36:47.019
and dwells on those moments, but you know they're

00:36:47.019 --> 00:36:49.059
going to be motivated if and when they get in

00:36:49.059 --> 00:36:51.579
that situation again. All right, Rabbi, we appreciate

00:36:51.579 --> 00:36:54.840
your time. I know you're busy, and man, whatever

00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:58.590
time you can give us, we love it. Take care of

00:36:58.590 --> 00:37:00.730
the rest of the week. I know you got a lot more

00:37:00.730 --> 00:37:03.250
going on. We'll be watching and reading what

00:37:03.250 --> 00:37:06.730
you give us on the old Brendan Sorsby situation

00:37:06.730 --> 00:37:09.110
and everything on college football. We love you,

00:37:09.130 --> 00:37:11.110
man. Thanks. Okay, guys. Thanks for having me.

00:37:11.110 --> 00:37:12.949
Have a good one. There he goes, the rabbi at

00:37:12.949 --> 00:37:15.210
ESPN Rittenberg, senior writer, college football,

00:37:15.409 --> 00:37:19.730
ESPN, Sirius XM, college host. He's an adjunct

00:37:19.730 --> 00:37:22.010
professor, by the way, in DePaul, which is awesome.

00:37:22.750 --> 00:37:25.809
And he's a Cubs fan. And he is a Cubs fan. And

00:37:25.809 --> 00:37:28.690
he does a podcast as well, the Finding Dolores

00:37:28.690 --> 00:37:30.050
podcast. I've talked about this before. We've

00:37:30.050 --> 00:37:32.550
talked about this, yeah. So you've got to go

00:37:32.550 --> 00:37:35.949
back to listen to that. So when we come back,

00:37:36.050 --> 00:37:40.690
good, bad, and ugly for the weekend. What else?

00:37:40.789 --> 00:37:42.789
We want to talk about World Cup. Tiago Splitter

00:37:42.789 --> 00:37:44.989
is hired by the Bulls. We'll talk about that.

00:37:45.309 --> 00:37:47.690
We've got all that going on here in the last

00:37:47.690 --> 00:37:53.389
segment of the program, Danny and Justin. If

00:37:53.389 --> 00:37:55.550
you missed any of the Danny and Justin radio

00:37:55.550 --> 00:37:57.590
program up to this point, please go back to the

00:37:57.590 --> 00:38:00.070
podcast. We already had A .J. Connell, the voice

00:38:00.070 --> 00:38:04.070
of the Portland Fire, the WNBA team, the expansive

00:38:04.070 --> 00:38:06.909
franchise who are taking on the Minnesota Lynx

00:38:06.909 --> 00:38:10.030
tonight. You can hear it right here on Fox Sports

00:38:10.030 --> 00:38:13.050
Eugene, Fox Sports Newport. And we just got finished

00:38:13.050 --> 00:38:16.449
with Adam Rittenberg from ESPN. Really great

00:38:16.449 --> 00:38:19.289
insight on the whole Brendan Sorsby thing from

00:38:19.289 --> 00:38:22.190
ESPN. So you can follow the rabbi at ESPN Rittenberg.

00:38:22.570 --> 00:38:24.809
You could almost hear his frustration talking

00:38:24.809 --> 00:38:26.530
about some of this stuff and how passionately

00:38:26.530 --> 00:38:28.250
he feels about it. Yeah, so that was awesome.

00:38:28.349 --> 00:38:29.969
So go back to the podcast if you've missed any

00:38:29.969 --> 00:38:31.329
of that. All right, good, bad, and ugly from

00:38:31.329 --> 00:38:32.909
the weekend. We're going to dive right into it.

00:38:33.489 --> 00:38:36.230
We're working on a couple of interviews for tomorrow

00:38:36.230 --> 00:38:38.969
as well as we pack in a show here on a Monday.

00:38:39.050 --> 00:38:41.090
We shouldn't have to work this hard on a Monday,

00:38:41.130 --> 00:38:43.710
I'm just saying. Dude, I want to ease in from

00:38:43.710 --> 00:38:45.610
the weekend. I know, I know. Okay, all right,

00:38:45.630 --> 00:38:47.489
so good, bad, and the ugly. So my good from the

00:38:47.489 --> 00:38:51.269
weekend, Chicago Bulls. are finalizing the hiring

00:38:51.269 --> 00:38:54.710
of Portland Trailblazer interim coach Tiago Splitter

00:38:54.710 --> 00:38:58.289
as the franchise's new head coach. He is going

00:38:58.289 --> 00:39:01.389
to succeed Billy Donovan as the Bulls head coach

00:39:01.389 --> 00:39:03.829
after stepping into the head role in Portland

00:39:03.829 --> 00:39:07.230
last season. He was great. He's 41 years old.

00:39:07.849 --> 00:39:11.269
Got the number seven seed, 42 -40 record. After

00:39:11.269 --> 00:39:14.809
literally the day after the season started, he

00:39:14.809 --> 00:39:17.710
had to step in as Chauncey Billups was pulled

00:39:17.710 --> 00:39:21.429
away for all of his off -season, off -court stuff

00:39:21.429 --> 00:39:24.789
that happened. He did a great job. So we like

00:39:24.789 --> 00:39:27.750
Tiago Splitter. Yeah. I've been turned on Tiago

00:39:27.750 --> 00:39:30.090
Splitter. I remember coming into the end of the

00:39:30.090 --> 00:39:31.690
season, it was kind of like, all right, I wasn't

00:39:31.690 --> 00:39:35.250
sure. But then they got into the play -in. obviously

00:39:35.250 --> 00:39:36.989
he didn't have any of his assistants like you

00:39:36.989 --> 00:39:38.809
mentioned he's coming in that second day of the

00:39:38.809 --> 00:39:40.789
season to actually just take over as the coach

00:39:40.789 --> 00:39:42.969
kid coach there's so many things that he didn't

00:39:42.969 --> 00:39:46.829
plan to be this way So I think this, in a way,

00:39:46.849 --> 00:39:49.530
could be a good hire for the Bulls because I

00:39:49.530 --> 00:39:51.369
think they might be a better sort of fit for

00:39:51.369 --> 00:39:53.429
him for a team that isn't getting expected to

00:39:53.429 --> 00:39:56.210
make a run next year. How do you think he reacts

00:39:56.210 --> 00:39:59.210
in Chicago, though? It's a bigger media market

00:39:59.210 --> 00:40:01.489
than Portland. Bigger media market, but it's

00:40:01.489 --> 00:40:04.429
a blue collar. They like a team that plays hard.

00:40:04.429 --> 00:40:05.690
They're going to like the guy that just gets

00:40:05.690 --> 00:40:07.789
in and digs in. I think so. I think so. I think

00:40:07.789 --> 00:40:10.250
they like a hardworking team, and I think Tiago.

00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:12.840
What the Blazers did defensively last year, hard

00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:15.239
work and team. So I think he'll be liked in Chicago.

00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:17.559
Chicago fans are excited. What's good has been

00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:20.940
the World Cup. It's been awesome. I wasn't really

00:40:20.940 --> 00:40:22.539
hyped on the fact that it was in America too

00:40:22.539 --> 00:40:24.860
much until I realized that the schedule of the

00:40:24.860 --> 00:40:27.179
games, I could watch all of them. They were not

00:40:27.179 --> 00:40:29.699
on at like 6 in the morning. The schedule's been

00:40:29.699 --> 00:40:32.340
great as well as just the plays. Because it's

00:40:32.340 --> 00:40:34.239
based here in North America. It has been. And

00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:36.760
it's been cool to see these teams and countries

00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:38.500
interacting with these cities. I don't know if

00:40:38.500 --> 00:40:40.809
you saw the Red Sox game where all the sky. No.

00:40:43.769 --> 00:40:52.710
I did not. And, by the way, Cape Verde and Spain.

00:40:52.769 --> 00:40:55.809
Cape Verde and Spain. Yeah, it's been a super

00:40:55.809 --> 00:40:59.190
fun World Cup. So, you know, lots more. The United

00:40:59.190 --> 00:41:01.329
States had an awesome performance in their first

00:41:01.329 --> 00:41:04.809
match. So, I'm super hyped. So, dive right into

00:41:04.809 --> 00:41:08.070
your bad. That being said, the hydration breaks.

00:41:09.130 --> 00:41:12.389
I think are a little interesting. And, you know,

00:41:12.409 --> 00:41:14.250
I understand the idea of you want to get the

00:41:14.250 --> 00:41:16.409
players to make sure that they're hydrated and

00:41:16.409 --> 00:41:18.690
healthy and all that. But they're doing it for

00:41:18.690 --> 00:41:21.170
commercials. Like, let's be honest. They're doing

00:41:21.170 --> 00:41:23.170
it because it's a bunch of Americans and they

00:41:23.170 --> 00:41:25.489
want to have those commercials. We cannot consume

00:41:25.489 --> 00:41:28.889
anything unless it's in four or five minute segments.

00:41:28.969 --> 00:41:31.789
By the way, 34 -year -old Victor Van Dyke from

00:41:31.789 --> 00:41:34.489
the Netherlands national team, well -known player,

00:41:34.650 --> 00:41:37.530
criticized the breaks. Basically said, as a viewer,

00:41:37.630 --> 00:41:39.170
he doesn't like them. But it doesn't seem like

00:41:39.170 --> 00:41:42.050
even as a, again, 34 -year -old in the game,

00:41:42.090 --> 00:41:44.730
which is not an old man's game, he didn't think

00:41:44.730 --> 00:41:46.849
it was that big of an advantage for them or anything

00:41:46.849 --> 00:41:49.230
like that. Interesting. I think that it's just

00:41:49.230 --> 00:41:51.190
like, you know, I could do without the hydration

00:41:51.190 --> 00:41:53.369
breaks. I'm all for player safety, but everything

00:41:53.369 --> 00:41:54.650
else would be great. I love that you focused

00:41:54.650 --> 00:41:57.710
on that, by the way. That's awesome. The good,

00:41:57.750 --> 00:41:59.789
the bad, the ugly from the Danny and Justin radio

00:41:59.789 --> 00:42:02.489
program. My bad from the weekend. Dana White

00:42:02.489 --> 00:42:05.409
standing at a dais saying. You know, the winning

00:42:05.409 --> 00:42:09.429
fighters, they're at 3 a .m. on Monday, and he

00:42:09.429 --> 00:42:11.510
says they're never going to do another thing

00:42:11.510 --> 00:42:14.329
at the South Lawn of the White House. Thank God.

00:42:15.210 --> 00:42:18.230
I'm not a big Dana White fan, but you know what?

00:42:19.190 --> 00:42:22.590
Only thing he said is he can't afford it, and

00:42:22.590 --> 00:42:25.070
that's why you shouldn't have done it. That's

00:42:25.070 --> 00:42:27.630
all I'm going to say about that. So, whatever.

00:42:27.789 --> 00:42:31.289
The UFC on the Lawn of the White House, yeah,

00:42:31.469 --> 00:42:35.349
not a fan. The Ugly. I'm going to go right back

00:42:35.349 --> 00:42:40.050
to the World Cup. Germany cruising past the small.

00:42:40.269 --> 00:42:47.010
How does Curacao enter into the World Cup? How

00:42:47.010 --> 00:42:49.530
do they get there? What qualifier? They lost

00:42:49.530 --> 00:42:55.769
7 -1, and that's embarrassing. It was 1 -1 at

00:42:55.769 --> 00:42:59.820
one point. Okay. It ended up being 7 -1. It was

00:42:59.820 --> 00:43:01.699
embarrassing. It's not like they pulled the goalie

00:43:01.699 --> 00:43:03.519
at the end, and they were trying to catch up

00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:05.420
at the end. It was no Germany -Brazil at least.

00:43:05.500 --> 00:43:09.760
So I'll remember that one. And that's been literally

00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:12.920
the only lopsided one, but still, they need to

00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:15.219
figure out how they get Curacao into this whole

00:43:15.219 --> 00:43:17.000
thing. Right. We've got to thank Kate Verde for

00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:19.139
keeping another one close today against Spann.

00:43:19.219 --> 00:43:21.340
Absolutely. My ugly for the weekend, I think

00:43:21.340 --> 00:43:24.219
there's no other place. sorry dom then i can

00:43:24.219 --> 00:43:27.780
go then the san antonio spurs blowing yet another

00:43:27.780 --> 00:43:31.260
lead yeah they get down 23 to 13 in the first

00:43:31.260 --> 00:43:33.539
quarter they're down at halftime they're down

00:43:33.539 --> 00:43:35.760
entering the fourth quarter and then they of

00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:38.059
course have a 29 to 18 advantage in the fourth

00:43:38.059 --> 00:43:42.320
quarter and win the nba finals 94 to 90 so uh

00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:43.579
you know great i think there's a lot of great

00:43:43.579 --> 00:43:45.400
things about it i'm really excited for new york

00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:50.159
fans and um Small guards and Chicago high school

00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:52.860
legends like Jalen Brunson. But at the same time,

00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:55.099
it was ugly. Let's be honest. We all knew it

00:43:55.099 --> 00:43:56.539
was happening that fifth game. So here's the

00:43:56.539 --> 00:43:59.579
only thing. And I'm going to have to hear all

00:43:59.579 --> 00:44:01.940
the New York fans coming in. By the way, that's

00:44:01.940 --> 00:44:03.679
the good, bad, and the ugly. from the weekend

00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:06.679
here on the Danny and Justin Radio Program. Thanks

00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:08.940
for tuning in. And by the way, again, big thanks

00:44:08.940 --> 00:44:11.920
to Adam Rittenberg for joining us, A .J. Connell

00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:14.539
for joining us on the program. We're efforting

00:44:14.539 --> 00:44:18.780
Waz tomorrow for Oregon baseball because there

00:44:18.780 --> 00:44:21.480
is some movement. Angel Laia has entered the

00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:26.659
transfer portal for Oregon baseball. A few names

00:44:26.659 --> 00:44:31.019
are starting to trickle out now. So, not unsurprising,

00:44:31.019 --> 00:44:35.480
although I think with the, and Angel's just a

00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:40.179
freshman, I think that, you know, for his camp,

00:44:40.539 --> 00:44:43.260
I think they saw that there's going to be a check

00:44:43.260 --> 00:44:45.599
that's going to be there that maybe Oregon can't

00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:48.699
afford. And maybe this is more of an issue that,

00:44:48.699 --> 00:44:51.980
you know, Oregon needs to address in terms of

00:44:51.980 --> 00:44:56.159
holding on to talent. With the dollars that need

00:44:56.159 --> 00:45:00.380
to happen in college athletics. We've talked

00:45:00.380 --> 00:45:02.320
about this. I kind of think, though, that it's

00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:03.719
just one of those things where it comes to the

00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:06.969
territory at this point. I don't disagree with

00:45:06.969 --> 00:45:09.070
that. But I think there's going to be a section

00:45:09.070 --> 00:45:10.550
of the fan base that's like, why couldn't we

00:45:10.550 --> 00:45:13.309
hold on to this kid that you recruited? It's

00:45:13.309 --> 00:45:14.670
because there's always going to be a bigger fish.

00:45:14.909 --> 00:45:16.389
There's always going to be a team out there with

00:45:16.389 --> 00:45:17.550
more money than you. And you're going to have

00:45:17.550 --> 00:45:19.650
to operate wherever you can with the money that

00:45:19.650 --> 00:45:22.969
you have. And I think I said this after they

00:45:22.969 --> 00:45:25.230
lost coming into that Monday, was that, you know,

00:45:25.329 --> 00:45:27.530
they have a lot of young players. We kind of

00:45:27.530 --> 00:45:29.190
knew that. And there was a lot of expectations

00:45:29.190 --> 00:45:30.989
of players coming back. But they're going to

00:45:30.989 --> 00:45:32.789
lose a couple guys. And you hope that it's not.

00:45:33.309 --> 00:45:35.650
like four or five of the guys but you knew that

00:45:35.650 --> 00:45:37.590
somebody that you liked wasn't going to be on

00:45:37.590 --> 00:45:40.010
the team the next year that you by in terms of

00:45:40.010 --> 00:45:42.010
their standing you could have expected to be

00:45:42.010 --> 00:45:44.190
and i'll just say on this and on this program

00:45:44.190 --> 00:45:46.929
we love angel we did we got to meet angel i i

00:45:46.929 --> 00:45:49.250
did at least so i got to meet angel like great

00:45:49.250 --> 00:45:52.489
kid really nice guy so i don't want to hold anything

00:45:52.489 --> 00:45:55.389
against let's just hope that he if he decides

00:45:55.389 --> 00:45:58.369
he's going to move on to greener pastures now

00:45:58.369 --> 00:46:01.320
by the way Just so people understand, you enter

00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:03.880
the transfer portal doesn't mean you end up leaving

00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:06.860
your team. Can I just say that, though? Because

00:46:06.860 --> 00:46:09.960
there have been players. But it's the reality,

00:46:10.260 --> 00:46:13.420
Justin. You put your name in the portal, it's

00:46:13.420 --> 00:46:15.099
like you become a free agent. It doesn't mean

00:46:15.099 --> 00:46:16.739
that you're not going to go back and sign with

00:46:16.739 --> 00:46:19.400
the same team that you were on. Maybe it will

00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:22.380
be a beaver. I don't know. Really? I don't think

00:46:22.380 --> 00:46:25.280
so. Speaking of the Beavers, though, Trey Morris,

00:46:25.500 --> 00:46:27.860
the freshman All -American, also entered the

00:46:27.860 --> 00:46:30.179
transfer portal today. That's a little bit of

00:46:30.179 --> 00:46:33.840
a hit. Yeah. I think that both of these teams,

00:46:33.980 --> 00:46:36.000
they're going to take their lumps. So here's

00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:38.820
the other thing, is that Mitch Canem loses Rich

00:46:38.820 --> 00:46:40.880
Dorman, who's his pitching coach for the last

00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:44.920
14 years. That could be one of those things.

00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:48.980
Because Trey Morris is a pitcher, right? Absolutely.

00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:53.820
I just it's it's we're going to watch it as we

00:46:53.820 --> 00:46:58.179
go through this offseason. I think both of these

00:46:58.179 --> 00:47:00.480
teams are in good shape. Like, I think that these

00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:03.579
are sort of some red flags, but I'm not sounding

00:47:03.579 --> 00:47:05.619
the alarm bells yet. Like, we kind of knew this

00:47:05.619 --> 00:47:07.420
was going to happen, that there's both of these

00:47:07.420 --> 00:47:10.360
teams based on their financial standing. They're

00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:12.260
not going to be able to keep everybody. But I

00:47:12.260 --> 00:47:13.539
think they're going to keep almost everybody.

00:47:14.019 --> 00:47:15.880
Everything was being made about Oregon being

00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:18.280
that homegrown team. I think that's going to

00:47:18.280 --> 00:47:19.780
continue. I don't think they're going to go out

00:47:19.780 --> 00:47:21.280
there and get a bunch of guys in the transfer

00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:23.039
portal that are the big names. They're going

00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:25.239
to do that Vanderbilt kid who didn't have a great

00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:27.119
season for Vanderbilt, but he played for Vanderbilt

00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:29.079
and played great when he was at Cal State Fullerton.

00:47:29.179 --> 00:47:31.079
So I think that's more of the Oregon speed, and

00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:32.659
we'll see what Oregon State does as well. But

00:47:32.659 --> 00:47:34.639
I'm not worried about these teams yet. So did

00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:36.920
I talk about big bets? We have not talked about

00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:39.019
big bets. You have about 30 seconds. I got it.

00:47:39.260 --> 00:47:42.250
I got it. Big bets. Baby J wins the weekend.

00:47:42.909 --> 00:47:46.969
No, Laura won. No, actually, Laura did win. Yeah.

00:47:47.349 --> 00:47:50.389
So both of you went four and one. Laura won the

00:47:50.389 --> 00:47:53.070
tiebreaker. Yes, she did. So I think the tiebreaker

00:47:53.070 --> 00:47:56.409
was like 184 points. Yeah. Which would have been

00:47:56.409 --> 00:47:58.710
in the goose range. Well, I went highest. I knew

00:47:58.710 --> 00:48:00.789
that I didn't win it because I went 222. You

00:48:00.789 --> 00:48:04.079
went to room 222. I knew everybody was lower

00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:06.519
than me. Laura went 4 -1. The only game she missed

00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:09.559
was Ole Miss. I went 3 -2. You went 4 -1. Goose

00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:12.519
went 0 -5. How about that, Goose? You overtook

00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:15.500
Goose, and I'm only one game behind you. We're

00:48:15.500 --> 00:48:18.860
all within two games of each other. So that's

00:48:18.860 --> 00:48:21.940
fine, which is fun. It's good. Comparity is good

00:48:21.940 --> 00:48:24.679
in sports. We're all 500, though. Oh, a joke!

00:48:25.659 --> 00:48:27.960
I got fired from the bank today. A woman asked

00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:29.929
me to check her balance. So I pushed her. Dad

00:48:29.929 --> 00:48:33.210
jokes. God, we're so really bad. We're 500. We're

00:48:33.210 --> 00:48:36.849
doing our best. All right. What state has the

00:48:36.849 --> 00:48:40.969
most streets? What state has the most streets?

00:48:44.150 --> 00:48:45.429
You're not going to get this. I'm not going to

00:48:45.429 --> 00:48:48.369
get it. No. Rhode Island. You know, I was kind

00:48:48.369 --> 00:48:51.090
of thinking. Rhode Island. I was sort of thinking

00:48:51.090 --> 00:48:53.710
northeast. It's got to be the northeast. Island's

00:48:53.710 --> 00:48:55.489
got a bunch of roads on it. It's Rhode Island.

00:48:55.530 --> 00:48:57.190
By the way, if we're so bad, it means that it's

00:48:57.190 --> 00:49:00.389
easier for people to beat us. That's right. Your

00:49:00.389 --> 00:49:02.949
opportunity coming up on Friday. Yep. Big bets

00:49:02.949 --> 00:49:06.130
on the Danny and Justin radio program. Great

00:49:06.130 --> 00:49:10.670
job as well. As always for baby J doc. Thanks

00:49:10.670 --> 00:49:12.969
for listening. Go back to the podcast. If you

00:49:12.969 --> 00:49:16.489
miss Adam Rittenberg or AJ canal fire on tonight

00:49:16.489 --> 00:49:18.969
against the links. God bless. Put a smile on

00:49:18.969 --> 00:49:20.550
your face. Someone else's that they deserve it.

00:49:20.570 --> 00:49:22.829
So do you back tomorrow with the radio program,

00:49:22.969 --> 00:49:24.849
the fastest 60 minutes. Peace.
