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sports. Eugene. Portions of this show are recorded.

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Strap in and be prepared. I love growing the

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game. I can guarantee you, any other West Coast

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team that's watching this, I'm sure USC is gnashing

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their teeth right now saying, how come we couldn't

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have thought of this first? Interesting guests.

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Kelly Graves, Mike Parker, Coach Mark Waszkowski,

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Melissa Lombardi, Max Torres, El Toro, joining

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us. Sharp opinions. I think if you're a supporter

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of the NBA, that you should at least have some

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level of interest in the WNBA because the things

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that interest you as a NBA fan should still interest

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you as a WNBA fan. That's just my opinion. And

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some smiles. Can you guess what position I played

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in football? Left out? No, I did not. Yeah, exactly.

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I did think about that for a second. But yes,

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actually, I did not play. I was not big enough.

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Goose tried to kill me today on the golf course.

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Advanced warning was given. It just apparently

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was not heard. I will dispute that in a court

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of law. It's Danny Havel. If you're driving and

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you're trying to do this in your head, pull off

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the side of the road. I don't need any accidents.

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Justin Grossweiner. I love to hear Coach go,

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we're going to focus on that bad four game stretch

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the rest of the season. We will never do that

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again. That may be a good point. I don't know.

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Maybe you can do that. Maybe that's another strategy.

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Danny and Justin starts now on Fox Sports Eugene

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and Fox Sports Newport. Hello neighbors. Welcome

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high atop the Delta Tri on the Crystal Palace.

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on a listen on average, the Danny and Justin

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radio show. Good show today, a packed show again.

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Paul swine guard who is the public dress announcer

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and also does a lot of stuff for mbc and the

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peacock for track and field he'll be our first

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guest and then adam susman will get another update

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timbers have made a change in their manager position

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did they get the guy they wanted as interim and

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did they lose out on a guy for next year that

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they wanted we'll talk to adam susman about that

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and also as the break is coming up because of

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world cup what happens to the Timbers after the

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World Cup break. We'll discuss all of that here

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on the old radio program. Dom, aka Hawk, is feeling

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much better today after his spurs. Finally got

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a win in the NBA Finals. We'll talk about that

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in the last segment. So he's gonna have to sit

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and wait until we get to that point in the program.

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But I'm glad he showed up. He's got a big smile

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on his face. He's a happy boy. Don't think he's

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ever taken that spurs hat off. I don't think

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he's washed it So he definitely hasn't washed

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it. No. I can oh yeah now the turns that way

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Sorry I jumped in here when I was fine right

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over that talk He's putting the buttons together

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and making sure we sound good producing the radio

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program of Danny Otherwise known as doc right

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over here to our right. It's Justin. You know

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him as baby J What a boy. I'm thrilled about

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the World Cup, by the way. We haven't talked

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about it a lot on this show. We'll get to it.

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We'll get to it once we listen. We're going to

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have a lot of things to talk about in the summertime

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because, you know, we do talk a lot of collegiate

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athletics here. We kind of stray away because

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the guys at Fox Sports, for the most part, I

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mean, they're covering it a lot better than we

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possibly could. We have a one hour program, so

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we have to be mindful of the time that we have.

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So we concentrate on the local stuff. Well, high

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school's done. um there's the big 10 championships

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are done but ncaa track and field championships

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are going to be here this weekend that's one

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of the reasons we've got paul swangard on the

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program today so we'll talk about all that by

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the way speaking of hayward field 139 this afternoon

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there was a bomb threat called in and they've

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evacuated hayward field this is a breaking story

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we don't normally have breaking news of a serious

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nature on this program So I mean we're not gonna

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necessarily talk about that with Paul everybody

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be safe Yeah, so they've cleared the area and

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you know stay tuned your updated news They're

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gonna have all of it for you, so just about 20

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minutes ago 25 minutes ago There was a bond threat

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called in so I don't know if this has anything

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to do or related to the NCAA championships that

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are coming up this weekend, but There you go

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never want to hear it people doing silly stuff

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Let's see what else we got going on Like I said,

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I cover the timbers. We're gonna talk Brendan

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Soresby tomorrow Everybody's been banging on

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this we're gonna have the the minister George

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Reister on if you don't think he's got an opinion

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on this then you are deleted Literally everything

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like me and we can ask to ask him Hey George,

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what do you think of the Brendan Soresby thing?

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And then that's the interview, you know, he'll

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talk for 20 minutes and we'll be done, which

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is great That's why I love having George on I

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never have to worry about what question I'm gonna

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ask George so There you go. So you're looking

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forward to world cup absolutely always just to

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switch gears real quick Yeah real quick. The

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last world cup final was legitimately one of

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the best sporting events i've ever watched between

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france and argentina went to penalty kicks like

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That was awesome. So I know it probably won't

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be as good as that because I don't know how it

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can be But i'm really excited. I always love

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international competition because I love players

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that When they play for their country, it just

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means more and so you can feel that and I love

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it Can I ask just real quick? Yeah, who are y

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'all's winners or who do you think is taking

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it all taking it home? Well, i've got probably

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printed this off because I was looking through

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this. I think there's a top five I don't this

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is what's hard about it. It's about you know,

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your pool play Yeah, and who you're matched up

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against you get to the round of six now because

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of the way they expanded it It seems to me in

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spain. It seems to me spain's kind of the argentina.

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I will I think england could be a dark Horses

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well thing well what we'll see because they feel

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like England's history of World Cup is has not

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been good over No, but that's why they could

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be a dark horse They always should be good if

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you look at who's on their team Brazil. Yeah

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as well I will be heavily not for Argentina heavily

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heavily rooting for Argentina. I love little

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messy So that's so we will be discussing a lot

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more World Cup in the coming weeks as it transpires.

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But let's quickly head over to the Oregon Man

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Clinics hotline at 343 -5673 and welcome in a

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first -time guest on our program. He is the PA

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announcer and he's done a lot of work on NBC,

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Universal, on the Olympics, a lot of track and

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field state championships, not state championships,

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a lot of track and field national and world championships

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and trials. It is Paul Swangar joining us. And

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Paul, first of all, we call it the fastest 60

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minutes here, so welcome to the program for the

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first time. I like it. We're all about fast and

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track and field So so when you were I mean when

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you were growing up Paul is a itty -bitty child

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Is this what you wanted to be when you grew up?

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Itty -bitty child, um, you know I had I had I

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had I had certainly had aspirations to be involved

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in sport and in media in some way and you know

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growing up in Eugene, you know, we were lucky

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that You know, the sport of track and field was

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a huge and vibrant part of the community at the

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time. And, you know, my parents would drop me

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off at the beginning of a meet at Oregon on a

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Saturday and they kind of considered it free,

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low cost daycare because they knew the thing

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was going to last for eight hours and I would

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be entertained by the running, jumping and throwing.

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And, yeah, I'm not, you know, you don't necessarily

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grow up thinking, oh, I'm going to be the you

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know the voice of an iconic venue like Hayward

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Field it certainly you know it came to pass but

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I you know I just wanted to be involved in sport

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in some way and it's been just a treat to you

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know kind of focus on a niche and try to do that

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as as well as I can and I've you know been able

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to see the world and sit on the finish line for

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so many great moments, both here and around the

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globe. Well, I'm not going to cheat anybody by

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asking what your favorite moment is. It's going

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to be like saying what your favorite child is.

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But I will direct it. This area is. in stadium

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announcing versus a broadcast. So and again you've

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done it very well with NBC and will continue

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to do that as a part of their commentary team

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for Summer Olympics. You just recently did it

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in Paris as well. So what's the difference and

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how do you is there a different preparation and

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how you manage in stadium versus a broadcast?

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Yeah, I think there are I mean there are dimensions

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that are certainly different I mean the the biggest

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one is is the difference of getting Immediate

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feedback and and having the ability to shape

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a moment in a venue, right? So as a PA announcer

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your job is to you know All the people see is

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they see everything and we're we're a multi -sport,

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you know genre Which is pretty unique to track

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and field. So there's usually two or three events

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going on at the same time, and you're just trying

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to direct their attention and make sure they

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don't miss anything. Nothing's worse than hearing

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a crowd reaction at one end of the stadium while

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you're paying attention to an event that's getting

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into the blocks and hasn't had that moment. So

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that's a big challenge. But then you also have

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this ability to... kind of move everybody's attention

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onto one thing like a race or like a moment on

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a javelin runway and set the stage for an athlete

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to compete at their best. And those are just

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the great. the great signature moments of the

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time I've been able to do it in stadium. And

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then on the TV side, all that those folks have

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sitting at home, which is a much larger audience,

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is what they see on the screen. So that is more

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about making sure that you're talking to the

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pictures, you're providing context and a reason

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to care. And I've been so fortunate to have been

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working with this amazing team of you know production

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broadcast people at nbc who really you know know

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how to do that at a very high level you know

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most of the major sports that you probably spend

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more time talking about nfl you know what they're

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doing with the nba this year has been great major

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league baseball but you know when when track

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and field gets its a little moment in the spotlight

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it's a lot of those people who are coming in

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and helping us try to give the largest possible

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audience that our track and field sport ever

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gets to have and give hopefully some other people

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a reason to want to pay attention and care about

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the sport a little bit more. We're gonna do our

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best Paul. We're gonna try to we're gonna try

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to emphasize track as much as possible over here

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on the Danny and Justin radio program Well, if

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you're gonna use speed in your whole positioning,

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I I'd be I'd be disappointed Absolutely. In fact,

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we're gonna be we're gonna be broadcasting live

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down there from the pre we're gonna take our

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show down there and Broadcast live. Yep. Absolutely.

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So one thing I love about track and field is

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it's one of those sports where undoubtedly, you

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know that athletes are getting Better and better

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and better and better as the years go on what

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kind of evolution of the sport have you seen

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in your time? Well, you all all made me feel

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and sound old when you said i've been doing pa

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at hayward field for over 30 years Which is actually

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an accurate statement, but I I started very young

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not itty bitty child I was younger. Um, you know,

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the biggest evolution is is well, I mean just

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drive down agistry, right? I mean, you know what

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you see today in terms of that venue and not

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just the field of play, but you know, all the,

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you know, all the training and, you know, medical

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and, you know, rehab and just, you know, these

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athletes are getting access to more pro -like

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amenities at a younger age. But that's also,

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you know, meant changes in you know shoes and

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surfaces and equipment and best practices around

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coaching. I mean the shoes themselves have probably

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been the biggest you know discussion point for

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everyone. We just saw you know for the first

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time on a on a record eligible marathon course

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a man run under two hours in you know in the

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marathon which is just like mind -blowing and

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we see that with track and field we've just got

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you know records you know we had a 14 year old

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seventh grade girl uh earlier this week run four

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minutes and 38 seconds in the mile which um you

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know puts her among a a pretty good class of

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you know kids that would be like Racing in Eugene

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this week at the NCAA championship. I mean, it's

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just remarkable where Where the sport is gone

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and you know, there's some traditionalists much

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like when we tore down the old Hayward Field

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You know new and innovative, you know is a change

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and you got to kind of embrace it and a lot of

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you know folks who've followed the sport for

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a long time or like, you know, we've got almost

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50 kids in high school that have run under four

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minutes in the mile and the vast majority of

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those kids have done it in the last eight or

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nine years. They may not even know who Jim Ryan

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was, but you know, for those who knew who that,

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you know, and what he meant to the sport back

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then, you know, you just hope you appreciate

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and respect the history as much as you respect

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and appreciate all the great performances we're

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seeing now. If you've been to Hayward Field,

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he is the voice from on high. We can call it

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heavenly. It's Paul Swangar joining us. He is

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also the president. We're not that high, actually.

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We're much lower in the new stadium. In fact,

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it's a little bit of a different viewpoint. I'd

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much rather be up high. So I appreciate that.

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He is the president of the Bowerman Curve Collective.

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He is a University of Oregon graduate, not just

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in broadcast journalism, but an MBA in sports

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business. And he joins us. Here's the longtime

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voice of Hayward Field on the Danny and Justin

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radio program. Paul, when you set up for a meet

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and it's the mechanism of things, Your eyes have

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to go to a lot of different things. So how do

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you prioritize things? And how much work goes

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into pre -planning and prepping before you sit

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down for a meet, say, like the trials or the

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Big Ten Championships or anything that comes

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to this wonderful venue we have at Hayward? Prep

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is everything in our sport You know announcing

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in track and field requires, you know to have

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the same skill set as a Don is a good awesome

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stadium or you know any other voices you hear

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When you go to major venues, but track has that

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that three ring circus dimension It has the you

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know desire the fans to understand what they

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might be witnessing in real time I mean, you

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know Don who? you know is is a legend and a bigger

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legend at Oregon you know for what he's brought

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to the PA a microphone you know he doesn't after

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Dante throws a you know a 12 yard completion

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say hey that's his longest completion in September

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you know and tries to put it into immediate context

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of of of what it meant to to see that performance

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and that's what That's what the fans, at least

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certainly at Hayward, kind of expect. So I've

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spent days preparing for just these four meet

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days at NCAAs. And you're just hoping that you

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have everything at your disposal. And then you

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rely on, I've got. spotters and we use technology

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and you're just hoping that you know you're just

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there ready to react to the moment and amplify

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and and help those fans appreciate what they

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just witnessed. It's funny you mentioned football

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because we know how big football is to the University

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of Oregon but obviously track and field has a

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very special place as well and it should. How

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important is track and field to the University

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of Oregon? I mean I think I would maybe reframe

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it to say what it means to the community. I mean,

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I think the years that I was growing up in this

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town and when it became Track Town USA, we've

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seen that come back in ebbs and flows with major

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events. And we give a lot of credit to Vin Lanana

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and his team kind of came back and brought back

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a renaissance of major trial events and the world

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championships. I mean. you know you think eugene

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oregon hosting the world championships and it's

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being hosted in it was in tokyo olympic stadium

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last year it'll be in beijing next year it was

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in london and mosco and doha and it's like eugene

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oregon what you got to be kidding us but that's

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because the world sees something unique about

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the culture here that It's a hard, and there's

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a core team of folks in town that are trying

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to continue to shepherd and amplify and remind

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folks that it's a real big sense of community

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pride. And yeah, there's only 12 and a half thousand

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seats in that new facility, and you're not gonna

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see over the course of even a whole season maybe

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a total audience that adds up to one or two home

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games for the football program, but. There's

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very few places in the country that can say it's

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the home to something. And we are the home to

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track and field the way many feel Augusta is

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the home to golf or to other major sports that

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folks can name. And I think just the ability

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for Eugene to continue to embrace that and just

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what it represents in terms of. active lifestyle

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and just a sense of what uh you know what Eugene

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was and what can still be is I think just an

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important ingredient and yeah yeah we all want

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a football title and we all want the success

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that we're seeing in the other sports but uh

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you know I travel extensively around the world

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and you know no one in uh in Europe or no one

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when I was at the world championships in uh...

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in tokyo was asking about what what were the

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prospects for the football team So he was not

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an itty -bitty lad, but he was a wee lad, and

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he started out in radio and television, and he

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was an award -winning sports broadcaster there,

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and then a decade of leadership at the Warsaw

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Sports Marketing Center at the Lundquist College

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of Business, and joins as an assistant teaching

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professor at Sport Brand Strategy and Advertising

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at the University of Oregon, and that's just

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his real job. And then he gets to go do the fun

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things at Hayward Field as the voice of Hayward

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Field. It's Paul Swangard joining us here on

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the Danny and Justin radio program. So, Paul,

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where is the... In your opinion, because there's

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been a lot of discussion, we've had it on this

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program before, after there was this thesis of

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how track and field is waning, and in the Americas,

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it's not the premier sport, and track and field

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is dying even at the high school level. Where

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do you see track and field in the big picture

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of all of the sports? Because worldwide, I think

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we can be myopic in the U .S. about track and

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field, just kind of like football soccer is.

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worldwide, and it's more, I guess, engaged in

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other countries, especially in Europe. But where

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in the States do you see track and field emerging,

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and is there a wane of attention on this sport?

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Yeah, I mean, fair question. It's hard pressed

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for me to ever believe that we'll go back to

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the days when there were dual meets at Stanford

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with 60 ,000 people watching every event. I mean,

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the industry has changed. There's more. competition.

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The sport has challenges in the way it's presented.

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It's not as TV friendly because of the multi

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-events that happen and you know we've seen some

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experiments with the old faded Grand Slam track.

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We've got Athlos which is an all -women's event

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that's got two events where they're trying to

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sort of play with the you know the the presentation

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of the sport and that's left to be decided. I

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mean at the grassroots level I think this has

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always been the quandary right i mean it's it

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remains the the top participatory sport in high

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school across indoor outdoor and cross -country

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it's um it's an inclusive sport because it's

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usually no cut it's girls and boys competing

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together so it's you know that great equity uh

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and i think you know a lot of people support

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that effort But just because you competed in

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high school doesn't make you a track and field

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fan professionally. So, you know, we're continuing

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to try to figure out like what's the formula

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there in order to, you know, to make it work.

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I think when you guys, you know, come down to

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pre and in the 4th of July weekend, you know,

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we're starting to see in the, you know, the schedule

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used to have pre in late May around Memorial

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Day. Now it's in this 4th of July thing. and

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you know with the combination of you know people

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can come to Hayward Field on Thursday night and

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run miles on the track on you know Friday they've

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got uh you know uh an evening program we've got

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uh butte to butte that weekend so there's a community

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-wide event that embraces the sport of running

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which just if you just take road running specifically

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is that at an all -time high in terms of participation

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and interest all the way up to the to the marathon

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level. So in using that Augusta example before

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is like, you know, pre is becoming to Eugene

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what the Masters is to Augusta celebration of

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the sport. It's more than just sitting in the

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stands for two hours and watching the best in

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the world. That'll be entertaining enough, but

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it's rubbing shoulders with legends and having

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a chance to participate, get yourself on the

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track. I think those are the models that serve

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as the potential paths to get the sport more

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resonance, certainly domestically. And then,

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of course, with LA in 28 and on the heels of

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my time at the NCAA championships this week,

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I'll fly down on Sunday and do the NBC show in

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LA at USC. And all about that is building momentum

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and interest in the same way that Atlanta in

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96 and LA in 84 kind of served as a rekindling

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of excitement and interest in the sports stars.

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We have to do a really good job these next 24

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months to execute an effort to make mainstream

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America care about You know the tara davis woodalls

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and the noah lyles and the simian burn bombs

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and you know, there's great star power They're

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great people They're approachable in a way that

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a lot of other athletes and a lot of other sports

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aren't and and that will just give us a chance

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and then we'll see if If things take hold on

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the other side of 28, you're so ingrained in

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track and field though paul I have to ask this

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question as a spectator. What other sport do

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you like to watch as just you know, I don't have

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to worry about Pulling my you know notebook binder

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of charts and and notes and all of that, but

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I can just sit back and enjoy Yeah, well it used

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to be my Daughter's softball team at Sheldon,

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but she's now long since graduated. So now I'm

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focused on I mean I grew up a hockey guy Nice

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roots in Vancouver and you know, yeah, so I'm

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more disgruntled about the current state of the

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Canucks organization and But I think like you

00:24:15.069 --> 00:24:17.630
guys, I mean, I think you know what what what

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I have been Fortunate in in my time and in doing

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things is I just love a good story. So I mean,

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I'm a situational you know, if there's Even if

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I'm just kind of you know doom -scrolling on

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a day and there's you know some obscure game

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that seems to Started to have sort of an interesting

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Narrative to it. I love going and watching how

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how that's produced how those other broadcasters

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are attempting to share that story I mean, I'm

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just kind of like a student of it because you

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know, that's me just trying to you know I want

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to be a little bit better. You know, we were

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real fortunate in our Paris coverage. We all

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came home and you know got sports Emmys for what

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we did as a team over there and LA presents you

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know to me an amazing you know who who who would

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have not wanted to as an itty -bitty that'll

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be our our word kid growing up in Eugene Oregon

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who was surrounded by the track and field ethos

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at the time to be given a chance to be you know

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part of the team that will be able to to share

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the story of the games in 2028 in LA. I mean,

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that's just, you know, that's just a crazy talk

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kind of thing. If I would have a chance to talk

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to myself, you know, from that from that time

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when I was young, just thinking about what I

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what I'd be able to do and in my career. So it's

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yeah, it's there's a there's definitely a coolness

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factor. And I just love, you know, sport is such

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a it's one of the few places left in the world

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where we can all just kind of. you know, agree

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to disagree, but all share in passion and support

00:25:53.750 --> 00:25:57.809
for a team or a sport and it tries to hold the

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world together a little bit more than maybe the

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other ways it's being torn apart. The longtime

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voice of Hayward Field. Paul, this was a pleasure

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and we'd love to have you back on the program

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and obviously with the Olympics coming up and

00:26:08.730 --> 00:26:10.710
with all the other events that will come throughout

00:26:10.710 --> 00:26:12.569
the summer months at Hayward Field and you'll

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be right in the center of it. We'd love to have

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you back. I appreciate the time guys. I appreciate

00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:21.000
you putting the spotlight on the sport and encourage

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folks who have some time and attention to come

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out to Hayward this week and got a good shot

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at seeing the Ducks do very well and it's always

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good to root for the home team. Absolutely. The

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NCAA is coming up. That is Paul Swangard. We

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are gonna be back. Did the Timbers miss out on

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the manager they wanted after they got rid of

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Phil Neville? We'll talk about that with Adam

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Sussman next on the Danny and Justin radio program.

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And this only has happened the second time in

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NBA history with that game last night. You might

00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:15.220
have teased that and you guys don't answer it.

00:27:15.450 --> 00:27:17.470
Yeah, no, you can turn your microphone on. You

00:27:17.470 --> 00:27:19.710
say something. I don't know. I haven't seen anything.

00:27:19.910 --> 00:27:21.470
Okay, because like you're the one that jumps

00:27:21.470 --> 00:27:24.009
in and answers my dad jokes. And for someone

00:27:24.009 --> 00:27:25.509
as young as he is... It certainly won't be me.

00:27:26.150 --> 00:27:28.950
Get him right. Let's head on over to the Oregon

00:27:28.950 --> 00:27:31.789
Man Klinix hotline at 343 -5673. A returning

00:27:31.789 --> 00:27:33.769
guest. So listen, we didn't scare him away so

00:27:33.769 --> 00:27:36.109
he came back. You can follow him on the socials.

00:27:36.369 --> 00:27:40.539
Adam Sussman with two S's, one... S at the beginning

00:27:40.539 --> 00:27:43.740
1s after the you underscore. So it's Adam underscore

00:27:43.740 --> 00:27:47.380
Sussman He is the voice you hear on timber review

00:27:47.380 --> 00:27:49.660
the podcast that he does covering the Portland

00:27:49.660 --> 00:27:52.460
Timbers the co -founder of that review broadcaster

00:27:52.460 --> 00:27:54.160
journalist and he joins us here on the Danny

00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:56.980
and Justin radio program so it's kind of what

00:27:56.980 --> 00:27:59.140
you alluded to Adam last time you were on the

00:27:59.140 --> 00:28:03.700
program is that there was a Rolling discontent

00:28:03.700 --> 00:28:06.559
with Phil Neville within the organization But

00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:08.880
I want to ask this because he's been removed

00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:11.980
as a head coach last manager. I think the fans

00:28:11.980 --> 00:28:14.619
liked Phil Neville, but the results on the field

00:28:14.619 --> 00:28:17.519
just weren't there. Yeah, he certainly had a

00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:19.539
relationship with the city of Portland, like

00:28:19.539 --> 00:28:22.240
he related it to his time in Manchester over

00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:24.680
and over again. And I do think he genuinely had

00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:27.710
a bond with the fans. But unfortunately, it just

00:28:27.710 --> 00:28:29.730
didn't get better in Portland through his two

00:28:29.730 --> 00:28:31.950
and a half seasons here and they didn't just

00:28:31.950 --> 00:28:34.609
let him go. They also let go of his top assistant

00:28:34.609 --> 00:28:36.789
and also the defensive coach of the Portland

00:28:36.789 --> 00:28:39.230
Timbers as well. So there's a pretty big shakeup

00:28:39.230 --> 00:28:41.970
going on with the Timbers right now. And their

00:28:41.970 --> 00:28:45.670
goal is to have a new permanent coach in place.

00:28:45.849 --> 00:28:49.529
by the start of MLS, by the resumption, which

00:28:49.529 --> 00:28:52.769
is July 16th in Seattle. And it's funny because

00:28:52.769 --> 00:28:55.329
Seattle's coach, Brian Schmitzer, is now the

00:28:55.329 --> 00:28:57.809
longest tenured coach in MLS of the Timbers,

00:28:58.130 --> 00:29:00.569
will have a first -time manager going against

00:29:00.569 --> 00:29:02.910
the man that has done it the longest in MLS,

00:29:03.289 --> 00:29:06.089
and what is the biggest rivalry in MLS overall.

00:29:06.210 --> 00:29:09.390
So it's been an eventful start to what is sort

00:29:09.390 --> 00:29:12.619
of a brief off -season here. And so the Timbers

00:29:12.619 --> 00:29:15.619
now in 13th place going into that break. Does

00:29:15.619 --> 00:29:18.880
this firing signify that this is still a salgable

00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:21.180
season? Is this a season where you would, you

00:29:21.180 --> 00:29:22.839
know, it sounds like there's expectations that

00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:24.720
they're going to have a manager in place by that

00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:26.599
time. Could be an opportunity for them to say,

00:29:26.859 --> 00:29:28.299
well, we're just going to, you know, see what

00:29:28.299 --> 00:29:29.759
happens in the second half and then figure it

00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:31.299
out. But do you think this is still a salgable

00:29:31.299 --> 00:29:34.279
season? I do, and certainly the front office

00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:36.740
does as well, because there was a big candidate

00:29:36.740 --> 00:29:40.339
hired by Austin FC yesterday, a man by the name

00:29:40.339 --> 00:29:42.480
of Jim Curtin, who was the coach of Philadelphia

00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:46.859
for 10 years, made MLS Cup, two -time supporter

00:29:46.859 --> 00:29:48.980
shield winner, two -time MLS coach of the year.

00:29:49.339 --> 00:29:52.000
It came up, the Timbers interviewed him. and

00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:55.400
the sort of sticking points, at least in my eyes,

00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:58.059
was that Jim Curtin is going to coach Austin

00:29:58.059 --> 00:30:01.940
at the end of the 2026 season. The Timbers said

00:30:01.940 --> 00:30:04.640
there's still a lot to fight for this year. We

00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:08.019
want a man to come in this year. And look, Justin,

00:30:08.099 --> 00:30:11.400
there's still 60 points up for play here. The

00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:14.940
Timbers have played 14 of 34 games in the MLS

00:30:14.940 --> 00:30:17.900
regular season. So there is mathematically a

00:30:17.900 --> 00:30:21.549
lot to play for. And when nine of the 15 teams

00:30:21.549 --> 00:30:24.150
in the conference makes the postseason in one

00:30:24.150 --> 00:30:26.750
way or another. It can even be the wild car like

00:30:26.750 --> 00:30:29.109
the Timbers had the last two years. There is

00:30:29.109 --> 00:30:32.049
still certainly a lot to play for. And the sort

00:30:32.049 --> 00:30:35.470
of rhetoric around this Timbers side from internally,

00:30:36.210 --> 00:30:38.970
media, broadcasters, even myself, is that the

00:30:38.970 --> 00:30:42.650
Timbers team is way too talented to be in 13th

00:30:42.650 --> 00:30:45.490
place, a big reason why Phil Neville eventually

00:30:45.490 --> 00:30:48.049
departed. Adam Sussman joining us on the Danny

00:30:48.049 --> 00:30:52.069
and Justin radio program. So Adam, it seems like

00:30:52.069 --> 00:30:54.369
did the Timbers miss out on the manager they

00:30:54.369 --> 00:30:57.630
wanted because of their timeline or is there

00:30:57.630 --> 00:31:00.789
somebody out there that the franchise covets?

00:31:01.309 --> 00:31:04.230
You know, I think the managerial merry -go -round

00:31:04.230 --> 00:31:06.809
in soccer is so much harder than the other sport

00:31:06.809 --> 00:31:08.869
because you have to go to every corner of the

00:31:08.869 --> 00:31:11.349
globe, right? In NBA, we know who the candidates

00:31:11.349 --> 00:31:14.470
are. In the NFL, we sort of know who the offensive

00:31:14.470 --> 00:31:16.930
and defensive and I guess retread head coach

00:31:16.930 --> 00:31:19.640
hires are. For the Timbers, it could be somebody

00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:21.559
from MLS, it could be somebody from Norway, it

00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:23.819
could be somebody from Algeria, it could be somebody

00:31:23.819 --> 00:31:26.500
coaching in the World Cup right now. It did come

00:31:26.500 --> 00:31:28.880
out yesterday that they were candidates for Jim

00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:31.559
Curtin. I don't know how much of that was the

00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:34.180
Portland Timbers interviewing Curtin or Curtin

00:31:34.180 --> 00:31:36.099
interviewing the Portland Timbers because he

00:31:36.099 --> 00:31:38.779
was sort of the marquee name if he was going

00:31:38.779 --> 00:31:41.380
to be hired in this cycle, but eventually he

00:31:41.380 --> 00:31:44.190
goes to Austin. And on my podcast, about two

00:31:44.190 --> 00:31:47.069
weeks ago, I ranked the opening jobs at MLS one

00:31:47.069 --> 00:31:50.250
through six. I had Austin as number one. I had

00:31:50.250 --> 00:31:52.789
Portland as number two. So that didn't come as

00:31:52.789 --> 00:31:55.710
a huge surprise to me. I wouldn't say that they

00:31:55.710 --> 00:31:58.490
didn't get Kurt another bang out of luck. I reported

00:31:58.490 --> 00:32:01.470
earlier this week that the Timbers has been interviewing

00:32:01.470 --> 00:32:04.990
candidates in person last week and into this.

00:32:05.029 --> 00:32:07.569
So I think they are still plenty busy on the

00:32:07.569 --> 00:32:09.650
cycle and hopefully should have a permanent hire

00:32:09.650 --> 00:32:12.910
by the end of June. So as you said there is talent

00:32:12.910 --> 00:32:15.089
on this team and I would agree and I think one

00:32:15.089 --> 00:32:16.369
of the interesting things when you bring in a

00:32:16.369 --> 00:32:19.009
new head coach is it's an opportunity to Do one

00:32:19.009 --> 00:32:21.450
of two things either you're gonna maximize the

00:32:21.450 --> 00:32:24.130
guys that you have or you're gonna totally recreate

00:32:24.130 --> 00:32:26.990
what you are all about as a team What do you

00:32:26.990 --> 00:32:29.049
think this team needs to do because they do have

00:32:29.049 --> 00:32:30.789
some talent and you could bring in a guy That's

00:32:30.789 --> 00:32:32.970
gonna make them better or you could just do a

00:32:32.970 --> 00:32:34.710
whole new vision and that's sort of an opportunity

00:32:34.710 --> 00:32:37.000
as well Yeah, I think there needs to be some

00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:39.480
structure within this roster. I think the starting

00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:42.420
11 actually makes a lot of sense in terms of

00:32:42.420 --> 00:32:44.480
the personnel. The Timbers have brought in a

00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.700
lot of new faces and it hasn't quite chilled

00:32:46.700 --> 00:32:49.910
yet. I think soccer is... more so of a chemistry

00:32:49.910 --> 00:32:52.809
sport than people realize, especially in attack.

00:32:52.890 --> 00:32:55.650
Let's say when you're number 10 attacking midfielder

00:32:55.650 --> 00:32:57.970
has the ball in the middle of the pitch. He needs

00:32:57.970 --> 00:32:59.869
to know what the right wing or the left wing

00:32:59.869 --> 00:33:02.009
and the striker is going to do. It didn't feel

00:33:02.009 --> 00:33:04.329
like that was there for the Timbers at times.

00:33:04.650 --> 00:33:06.950
This is a sport that can have individualism,

00:33:06.950 --> 00:33:09.130
but I felt like there was too much of that with

00:33:09.130 --> 00:33:12.970
the Timbers. The first 14 games of the 2026 MLS

00:33:12.970 --> 00:33:15.670
season. So I want a new coach to come in and

00:33:15.670 --> 00:33:19.170
sort of put a structure in place. that when they

00:33:19.170 --> 00:33:21.490
have the ball, here's what everybody else does.

00:33:21.609 --> 00:33:24.250
When they're defending on the right wing, here's

00:33:24.250 --> 00:33:26.230
what everybody else is supposed to be doing.

00:33:26.349 --> 00:33:29.569
So I want to see structure is the big one and

00:33:29.569 --> 00:33:33.069
also just sort of some consistency and selection

00:33:33.069 --> 00:33:35.869
as well. The timbers have rotated around their

00:33:35.869 --> 00:33:38.329
midfield a lot. Yes, somewhat through injury

00:33:38.329 --> 00:33:41.250
and to have a permanent center back partner next

00:33:41.250 --> 00:33:43.390
to Finn Sermon, who's going to be the only timber

00:33:43.390 --> 00:33:46.470
at the World Cup this year. Hi Adam, this is

00:33:46.470 --> 00:33:49.150
producer Dom aka Hawk. So you just brought up

00:33:49.150 --> 00:33:51.809
Finn Sermon My question is centered around Finn

00:33:51.809 --> 00:33:53.730
Sermon So with the tournament like the World

00:33:53.730 --> 00:33:56.410
Cup if you play well It can increase your value

00:33:56.410 --> 00:33:59.750
increase all the eyes on you With a team like

00:33:59.750 --> 00:34:01.230
the Timbers that have kind of struggling like

00:34:01.230 --> 00:34:02.869
you said They're way too talented to be here

00:34:02.869 --> 00:34:05.509
the 13th in the East or yeah, I believe the West

00:34:05.509 --> 00:34:11.150
West the West. Sorry is as a Timbers fan or anything

00:34:11.150 --> 00:34:15.239
like fans are nervous that The Timbers might

00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:17.400
sell him if he does well in the World Cup. Is

00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:19.639
that a possibility? And is that something that

00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:21.860
would help the Timbers or is he a player that

00:34:21.860 --> 00:34:24.179
is just so impactful to this team that there's

00:34:24.179 --> 00:34:27.280
no way they'll move him? Vint Cerber will not

00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:29.519
be a Timber for the rest of his life by any means.

00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:31.780
He is too talented and too young and if he gets

00:34:31.780 --> 00:34:33.719
it done on the biggest stage at the World Cup,

00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:35.260
I think there's going to be offers that come

00:34:35.260 --> 00:34:38.039
in for him. When he started playing very well

00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:41.280
at the beginning of the 2025 season, the timeline

00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:44.760
I always put on him was he may be sold after

00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:47.780
the World Cup. Will I be shocked if he is sold?

00:34:48.300 --> 00:34:51.039
No. Do I think he will be sold? Also, no, because

00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:54.059
he's too important to this team right now. But

00:34:54.059 --> 00:34:57.320
if a bid comes in, it could blow them away. MLS

00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:00.940
is not a end -all, be -all league. They are ultimately

00:35:00.940 --> 00:35:03.460
a selling league of their most talented young

00:35:03.460 --> 00:35:06.099
players, in which Vince Sherman is one of those.

00:35:06.250 --> 00:35:08.409
They have to tie him down to a new contract,

00:35:08.710 --> 00:35:10.789
though, also, which is another sort of chapter

00:35:10.789 --> 00:35:13.590
in this Finn Sermon book. If a new coach comes

00:35:13.590 --> 00:35:16.469
in, he will certainly want Finn Sermon under

00:35:16.469 --> 00:35:19.630
him. But at the same time, the front office sort

00:35:19.630 --> 00:35:22.190
of has an obligation to the player and his agent

00:35:22.190 --> 00:35:25.110
on what he needs to do. It's what makes soccer

00:35:25.110 --> 00:35:28.829
different from every other sport because, you

00:35:28.829 --> 00:35:31.010
know, for example, the Portland Trail Blazers

00:35:31.010 --> 00:35:33.849
can trade Deni Avdya against his welter wherever

00:35:33.849 --> 00:35:36.789
in the league of the other 29 teams. In soccer,

00:35:37.090 --> 00:35:39.429
all three parties have to agree. The selling

00:35:39.429 --> 00:35:42.550
club, the buying club, and the player himself.

00:35:43.050 --> 00:35:45.530
So, if Fincerman doesn't want to go, and I've

00:35:45.530 --> 00:35:48.050
talked to Fincerman a lot, he is happy in Portland,

00:35:48.409 --> 00:35:51.090
he loves the city, and he loves his time in MLS

00:35:51.090 --> 00:35:55.010
so far, I don't think he will go if he's happy

00:35:55.010 --> 00:35:57.530
with his current situation. But if he shines

00:35:57.530 --> 00:35:59.289
at the World Cup, which I'm sure you know, Hawk,

00:35:59.570 --> 00:36:01.929
it is the biggest stage this sport offers. If

00:36:01.929 --> 00:36:05.360
New Zealand... can play well against Egypt and

00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:07.739
play well against the likes of Kevin De Bruyne

00:36:07.739 --> 00:36:10.039
and Lukaku against Belgium, there's going to

00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:12.559
be clubs that are saying, hey, who is this six

00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.360
foot two guy that is quick as hell and playing

00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:17.300
well against the world's best at the World Cup?

00:36:17.579 --> 00:36:19.940
Oh, that's Timbers center back Finn Sermon. We

00:36:19.940 --> 00:36:22.059
can probably get him for a reasonable price.

00:36:22.579 --> 00:36:25.639
My sort of market value on him would be somewhere

00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:28.659
in the six to 10 million range, which would be

00:36:28.659 --> 00:36:30.980
the second most expensive sale in Timbers history.

00:36:31.260 --> 00:36:33.820
Timbers defender finn sermon place for New Zealand

00:36:33.820 --> 00:36:35.659
had a strong performance for the all -whites

00:36:35.659 --> 00:36:37.659
in a close one -nil loss to England That's their

00:36:37.659 --> 00:36:39.920
final tune -up They were all the way across the

00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:42.199
country at Raymond James Stadium in Tampa this

00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:46.119
past weekend So but dovetailing off of that Adam

00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:48.860
and we're with Adam Sussman who? Does the timber

00:36:48.860 --> 00:36:51.199
review and he joins us to talk all things timber

00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:53.159
and we'll get his view on the World Cup here

00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:55.679
in a moment I'd like to to handicap the field

00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:59.780
for us, but with sermon or anybody else the uncertainty

00:36:59.780 --> 00:37:04.119
at the managerial How does that play into a player

00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:06.099
saying, yeah, even though they could love the

00:37:06.099 --> 00:37:08.420
city, they can love the fan base, if there's

00:37:08.420 --> 00:37:10.340
uncertainty, all these players want to win. They

00:37:10.340 --> 00:37:12.260
want to stay competitive. They want to be in

00:37:12.260 --> 00:37:15.219
that limelight and fight for an MLS Cup. So where

00:37:15.219 --> 00:37:17.659
does that play into the whole factor for Sermon

00:37:17.659 --> 00:37:20.210
or anyone else on the Timbers? Well, I think

00:37:20.210 --> 00:37:22.030
they're all open to whoever's going to come in

00:37:22.030 --> 00:37:24.610
next because it hasn't been a winning circumstance

00:37:24.610 --> 00:37:27.050
through 14 games this year. The Portland Timbers,

00:37:27.170 --> 00:37:29.190
I think their biggest issue of just looking at

00:37:29.190 --> 00:37:32.050
it from 300 feet away is they can't win on the

00:37:32.050 --> 00:37:34.409
road. Like they have one win on the road over

00:37:34.409 --> 00:37:37.010
the last 20 games away from Providence Park.

00:37:37.250 --> 00:37:39.250
And I think they think to themselves that if

00:37:39.250 --> 00:37:42.230
a new coach comes in, that can probably be solved

00:37:42.230 --> 00:37:44.969
overall. I don't think Phil Neville ever lost

00:37:44.969 --> 00:37:46.750
the locker room, which I think is important,

00:37:46.789 --> 00:37:48.809
but it was a results -based business and the

00:37:48.809 --> 00:37:50.989
results were... weren't there. These are also

00:37:50.989 --> 00:37:54.510
professional athletes that are sort of like in

00:37:54.510 --> 00:37:57.369
soccer. They're not NBA players making 60, 70

00:37:57.369 --> 00:38:00.429
million. They're making closer to what, you know,

00:38:00.610 --> 00:38:03.190
an accountant or a successful lawyer would make

00:38:03.190 --> 00:38:07.699
more so than what the NFL quarterbacks or the

00:38:07.699 --> 00:38:10.360
MLB pitchers are making per se. So these are

00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:12.980
guys that are relatively humble. A lot of them

00:38:12.980 --> 00:38:15.119
are coming from all over the world. So they're

00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:18.679
not like living and dying every day with the

00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:21.619
coach's decision. They sort of understand what

00:38:21.619 --> 00:38:24.320
the career of soccer is. But at the same time

00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:26.659
with the Timbers being a very young team, this

00:38:26.659 --> 00:38:29.760
is such a huge hire for the future of the Timbers

00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:32.889
and a lot of these young players because... If

00:38:32.889 --> 00:38:36.010
they, and I know a lot of them do, want to eventually

00:38:36.010 --> 00:38:38.809
play in Europe, the Timbers being a good team

00:38:38.809 --> 00:38:40.869
will facilitate that. Just look at what's happened

00:38:40.869 --> 00:38:43.510
with the likes of the Vancouver Whitecaps, right?

00:38:43.630 --> 00:38:46.289
They were a bad team three years ago. Now they're

00:38:46.289 --> 00:38:48.010
a good team and their best players are getting

00:38:48.010 --> 00:38:50.090
looks from the bigger clubs around the world,

00:38:50.110 --> 00:38:52.769
whether that be in South America or Europe. The

00:38:52.769 --> 00:38:55.789
Timbers being good will facilitate good moves

00:38:55.789 --> 00:38:57.889
for their younger players if they want that in

00:38:57.889 --> 00:39:00.329
their future. Great point. As Danny said, we

00:39:00.329 --> 00:39:01.969
want to ask you about the World Cup, which...

00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:04.519
Opening match is starting this Thursday between

00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:07.179
Mexico and South Africa. But first I want to

00:39:07.179 --> 00:39:09.440
ask you about your Hammond Bears How does it

00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:12.400
feel to have your your boys potentially become

00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:15.679
the smallest market in the NFL? I thought it

00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:23.000
was a bigger city than Green Bay, but I I Mean

00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:26.280
Hammond's about as close I look I don't want

00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:29.440
to defend it if I have to defend it I have some

00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:33.969
milk cards in my back pocket But Hammond is essentially

00:39:33.969 --> 00:39:36.389
a distant suburb of the city of Chicago. As much

00:39:36.389 --> 00:39:38.389
as I hate it, I'll be enjoying them playing at

00:39:38.389 --> 00:39:39.849
Soldier Field for at least the next three to

00:39:39.849 --> 00:39:42.269
four years. I hope that project takes as long

00:39:42.269 --> 00:39:44.190
as possible, because it's a bummer. It's for

00:39:44.190 --> 00:39:47.489
sure a bummer. But Soldier Field does need some

00:39:47.489 --> 00:39:49.250
updating to say the least. It's the smallest

00:39:49.250 --> 00:39:52.190
city in the NFL. And to segue here nicely, Justin,

00:39:52.530 --> 00:39:55.130
I'll help you out with your job here. Soldier

00:39:55.130 --> 00:39:57.150
fields not hosting any World Cup games because

00:39:57.150 --> 00:39:59.269
it's the smallest stadium in the NFL like that

00:39:59.269 --> 00:40:01.110
should show you why another reason the Bears

00:40:01.110 --> 00:40:03.889
do need a new stadium and it sucks that Chicago

00:40:03.889 --> 00:40:07.369
of You know, you know, you love the city of Chicago

00:40:07.369 --> 00:40:10.230
as well should be hosting World Cup games They

00:40:10.230 --> 00:40:13.949
should like of you know Kansas City or some of

00:40:13.949 --> 00:40:16.610
the other host cities Chicago should be amongst

00:40:16.610 --> 00:40:18.630
that mix They had a tuna. This is Danny. They

00:40:18.630 --> 00:40:20.690
had a tune -up match there and the fans were

00:40:20.690 --> 00:40:24.809
incredible. It was yeah awesome Awesome experience

00:40:24.809 --> 00:40:28.570
there. So yeah, I 100 % agree with you Yeah,

00:40:28.610 --> 00:40:31.349
yeah us men's national team versus Germany a

00:40:31.349 --> 00:40:33.389
social field a great game and bummed. There's

00:40:33.389 --> 00:40:35.849
really nothing else No, it is really unfortunate.

00:40:35.889 --> 00:40:37.550
So we'll see what they go what goes on there

00:40:37.550 --> 00:40:38.769
I'm not convinced. They're actually gonna move

00:40:38.769 --> 00:40:40.409
to Hammond, but just in terms of the World Cup

00:40:40.409 --> 00:40:42.289
Obviously Spain's gonna be looked at as a favorite

00:40:42.289 --> 00:40:44.510
France with Mbappe They're gonna try to get some

00:40:44.510 --> 00:40:46.530
revenge on what happened last year I'm gonna

00:40:46.530 --> 00:40:48.809
be heavily rooting for Argentina to do it again.

00:40:49.210 --> 00:40:50.949
What do you think who'd you who'd you handicap

00:40:50.949 --> 00:40:54.340
for this World Cup? My favorite to win the tournament,

00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:56.199
if you're like gun to your head, pick one, would

00:40:56.199 --> 00:40:59.079
be Spain. I think top to bottom. They are not

00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:00.360
the most talented roster, but I think they're

00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:03.860
the best team. I, you know, I watched Inter Miami

00:41:03.860 --> 00:41:06.780
in MLS all the time, and they sort of have this

00:41:06.780 --> 00:41:10.019
front three that is some of the most brilliant

00:41:10.019 --> 00:41:12.400
attacking players you'll ever see in MLS, but

00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:14.659
they don't defend. And I feel like we could see

00:41:14.659 --> 00:41:16.780
a little bit of that with the France national

00:41:16.780 --> 00:41:20.219
team. France is the strongest collection of talents.

00:41:20.579 --> 00:41:23.010
Their front three. uh... was one of the late

00:41:23.010 --> 00:41:25.989
killian about they and michael lee say are three

00:41:25.989 --> 00:41:28.010
of the most five talented attackers in the world

00:41:28.010 --> 00:41:30.789
in my opinion and playing together is a monster

00:41:30.789 --> 00:41:34.289
type squad well that from three defend i'm not

00:41:34.289 --> 00:41:37.130
sure my sort of dark horse team in this tournament

00:41:37.130 --> 00:41:39.210
who i will have an eye on and they put a few

00:41:39.210 --> 00:41:42.489
dollars onto go to a quarter or a semi -final

00:41:42.489 --> 00:41:45.210
is Ecuador. They finished, I believe, second

00:41:45.210 --> 00:41:48.409
place in South America in qualifying. They play

00:41:48.409 --> 00:41:50.010
a three at the back system, and they're three

00:41:50.010 --> 00:41:52.650
centerbacks or three of some of the best in Europe.

00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:55.659
They've got William Pacio, who plays for PSG,

00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:57.559
who just won the Champions League. They've got

00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:00.059
Piero Hencapé, who plays for Arsenal, who was

00:42:00.059 --> 00:42:01.739
in the Champions League final and won the Premier

00:42:01.739 --> 00:42:04.260
League. And they've got Joel Oduñas, who is a

00:42:04.260 --> 00:42:06.519
young defender right now, 22 years old, that

00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:08.099
will likely be playing for one of the biggest

00:42:08.099 --> 00:42:10.699
clubs in the world here in the near future. And

00:42:10.699 --> 00:42:13.179
they also have probably the best defensive midfielder

00:42:13.179 --> 00:42:16.260
in the world as well in Caiceda, who plays for

00:42:16.260 --> 00:42:19.840
Chelsea. So that is a very, very strong defensive

00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:22.239
team. And I think one thing that nobody's really

00:42:22.250 --> 00:42:24.289
talking about this World Cup is I don't know

00:42:24.289 --> 00:42:25.929
how well the European teams are going to be able

00:42:25.929 --> 00:42:28.010
to handle the heat right now, because if you're

00:42:28.010 --> 00:42:30.170
playing in Mexico or some of these US cities,

00:42:30.409 --> 00:42:33.010
it's going to be damn hot. And we sure as hell

00:42:33.010 --> 00:42:36.369
know places like Ecuador and Brazil and Argentina

00:42:36.369 --> 00:42:38.170
are more equipped to deal with that than the

00:42:38.170 --> 00:42:41.510
likes of England, who if it's 73 degrees, they're

00:42:41.510 --> 00:42:44.130
way too hot to they call it a national heat emergency.

00:42:44.550 --> 00:42:46.710
So it's going to be a little bit different here

00:42:46.710 --> 00:42:49.250
for the South American countries versus the European

00:42:49.250 --> 00:42:51.519
ones. The co -founder of the Timber Review. Listen

00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:54.800
to that podcast and follow Adam underscore Sussman

00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:56.900
on all the socials. Adam, thank you very much.

00:42:56.980 --> 00:42:59.099
And by the way, you're okay to bet as long as

00:42:59.099 --> 00:43:01.579
you don't have any NCAA football eligibility

00:43:01.579 --> 00:43:04.179
left. So go ahead. No, I was hoping to play quarterback

00:43:04.179 --> 00:43:08.059
for the next year. I'll get it in junction and

00:43:08.059 --> 00:43:10.800
I'll be fine. Adam, thanks for your time, buddy.

00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:13.489
We really appreciate you. Thanks, guys. Here

00:43:13.489 --> 00:43:16.750
he goes. Adam's husband. Yeah, he's laying down

00:43:16.750 --> 00:43:20.329
some bets, man. Cool. All right. I don't know

00:43:20.329 --> 00:43:22.530
if it's a little known fact, but history was

00:43:22.530 --> 00:43:25.730
made just for the second time in the NBA Finals

00:43:25.730 --> 00:43:29.630
yesterday as the Spurs defeated the Knicks. Hawk

00:43:29.630 --> 00:43:31.829
is looking up skyward trying to get some divine

00:43:31.829 --> 00:43:34.070
intervention. He really, really wants to answer

00:43:34.070 --> 00:43:36.739
this question for me. Do not look, computers

00:43:36.739 --> 00:43:39.239
down, nobody looking up, stay away, we'll talk

00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:41.579
NBA finals next as we close out the show here.

00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:43.900
Danny and Justin, Fox Sports Eugene, Fox Sports

00:43:43.900 --> 00:43:49.500
Newport. A retired judge in Lubbock County, Texas

00:43:49.500 --> 00:43:53.519
gives Brendan Soresby his life back as the Texas

00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:56.079
Tech quarterback in this whole gambling. And

00:43:56.079 --> 00:43:59.039
it is now becoming a scandal because of the size

00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.480
they're lining up. Basically anybody who's not

00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:04.760
a Texas Tech fan. is railing on this. We will

00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:08.039
have our own takes on it with the minister, our

00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:11.579
dear friend, George Reister, former NFL player,

00:44:11.780 --> 00:44:13.500
former duck tomorrow right here on the program.

00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:15.260
You are not going to want to miss that. So get

00:44:15.260 --> 00:44:18.320
your ears back here at 2 p .m. tomorrow afternoon.

00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:20.519
If you missed any of our interviews with Paul

00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:24.960
Swangard and with Adam Sussman as we talked track

00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:27.460
and then we also talked a little Timbers and

00:44:27.460 --> 00:44:29.340
a little World Cup. Go back to the podcast, Danny

00:44:29.340 --> 00:44:34.460
and Justin. And by the way, It's now being reported

00:44:34.460 --> 00:44:37.880
that it's going to be a while. They've cleared

00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:39.559
Hayward Field because of a bomb threat. This

00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:42.539
is in advance of the NCAA championships that

00:44:42.539 --> 00:44:44.179
are going on this weekend at Hayward Field. They

00:44:44.179 --> 00:44:47.820
were a practice session scheduled for today and

00:44:47.820 --> 00:44:49.619
they've cleared everybody from Hayward and the

00:44:49.619 --> 00:44:51.280
surrounding area. And there's also like, isn't

00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:53.460
this the week everybody's moving out this weekend

00:44:53.460 --> 00:44:56.969
as well from school? Mean clearing out of the

00:44:56.969 --> 00:44:58.489
dorms and all the student housing and everything

00:44:58.489 --> 00:45:01.269
else or is that you tell us dumb? Yeah, I'm looking

00:45:01.269 --> 00:45:03.769
at you. I'm not I don't know if you're just asking

00:45:03.769 --> 00:45:05.530
the question. Yeah Yeah, I know you don't live

00:45:05.530 --> 00:45:08.349
you know in the dorms, but you live well finals

00:45:08.349 --> 00:45:09.869
week this week So I'd say yeah probably the end

00:45:09.869 --> 00:45:11.929
of this week, okay Which always makes it so much

00:45:11.929 --> 00:45:13.510
worse when they have the track and fields because

00:45:13.510 --> 00:45:16.449
the flights are more expensive the trial I think

00:45:16.449 --> 00:45:19.179
about that Yeah, and then like say your parents

00:45:19.179 --> 00:45:20.980
want to help you move out. There's no hotels.

00:45:21.059 --> 00:45:24.219
I ran into this a couple years ago All right,

00:45:24.219 --> 00:45:30.300
so nba finals spurs 115 111 Hawk is very happy

00:45:30.300 --> 00:45:33.219
boy a chaotic monday night at madison square

00:45:33.219 --> 00:45:37.960
garden So for only the second time in nba history

00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:40.719
this happened you guys know what it is Is it

00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:42.809
something to do with the president? No, okay.

00:45:42.809 --> 00:45:44.829
No, that's the first time ever that a sitting

00:45:44.829 --> 00:45:48.550
president's attended an nba final dark cheeto

00:45:48.550 --> 00:45:53.010
was there and did not receive You know the of

00:45:53.010 --> 00:45:54.929
course he thinks he did. Yeah, whatever. He was

00:45:54.929 --> 00:45:58.289
booed hard Only the second time in nba history

00:45:58.289 --> 00:46:00.570
that the road team has won the first three games

00:46:00.570 --> 00:46:03.929
Oh, wow, I didn't know that put that one in your

00:46:03.929 --> 00:46:06.929
little bonnet first set only the second time

00:46:06.929 --> 00:46:08.250
in nba history i'm trying to think of when the

00:46:08.250 --> 00:46:10.489
first time a road team has won the first three

00:46:10.489 --> 00:46:13.519
games that The youngest team to ever win the

00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:16.280
NBA finals. I believe is the 77 Celtics I could

00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:18.960
be mistaken, but it was in the 70s and they went

00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:21.260
down Oh two and won the finals and 77 was the

00:46:21.260 --> 00:46:24.360
Blazers was another maybe the Blazers and I think

00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:26.159
they were against the Sixers Yeah, yeah, we're

00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:28.039
the newest team the youngest team ever in the

00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:29.619
Spurs were the second youngest team in the NBA

00:46:29.619 --> 00:46:32.039
finals history went down Oh to one game three

00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:35.099
there could be something there Victor Wemba Nyama

00:46:36.090 --> 00:46:39.469
joins Tim Duncan as the only other Spur to score

00:46:39.469 --> 00:46:41.590
at least 25 points or more in three consecutive

00:46:41.590 --> 00:46:45.090
final games and help lead the Spurs along with

00:46:45.090 --> 00:46:48.409
Stefan Kassel. So they're calling him now Area

00:46:48.409 --> 00:46:52.099
51 because Kassel wears number five and... Oh,

00:46:52.099 --> 00:46:53.860
that's what they say when B wears number one.

00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:55.260
So that's what they're saying. They've been saying

00:46:55.260 --> 00:46:57.579
that they've been saying All right. Listen, dude,

00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:00.840
we're not you know, we're not huge fans of the

00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:04.739
Spurs So so are you feeling are you feeling more?

00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:06.880
Optimistic now that you got the first one if

00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:09.960
you would have gone down you meaning your team

00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:12.460
Yeah, gone down three. Oh, you know put a fork

00:47:12.460 --> 00:47:14.719
in you. Yeah, they went down three. Oh, it was

00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:17.869
over Well, there's always optimism It's not for

00:47:17.869 --> 00:47:19.750
everyone before that was a lot about you as a

00:47:19.750 --> 00:47:21.869
fan. Are you living it right there? Are you living

00:47:21.869 --> 00:47:24.670
in delusion though? When you're in the finals

00:47:24.670 --> 00:47:26.969
you have to live in delusion, but we needed to

00:47:26.969 --> 00:47:28.869
win it was a good win It does worry me a little

00:47:28.869 --> 00:47:31.230
bit just the runs that the Knicks go on They

00:47:31.230 --> 00:47:33.510
always seem at the end of quarters to close it

00:47:33.510 --> 00:47:36.050
down But I don't know the Spurs missed a lot

00:47:36.050 --> 00:47:38.289
of threes I think if they knocked down some of

00:47:38.289 --> 00:47:40.570
those wide open threes we are sorry the Spurs

00:47:40.570 --> 00:47:43.969
win by ten No, it's good. I think the Spurs are

00:47:43.969 --> 00:47:45.909
in a good position. I think they get four tomorrow

00:47:46.250 --> 00:47:49.429
What do you think? You know, I definitely think

00:47:49.429 --> 00:47:51.730
that the vibes were off at Madison Square Garden

00:47:51.730 --> 00:47:53.730
last night, and I would not be surprised if it

00:47:53.730 --> 00:47:55.909
changed the series. I was pretty much off on

00:47:55.909 --> 00:47:57.409
the Spurs, I have to say, coming into that game,

00:47:57.409 --> 00:47:58.989
but just the way it went down, I don't know.

00:47:59.090 --> 00:48:00.389
Like, I think they might have a chance still.

00:48:00.750 --> 00:48:03.090
OK, well, Stephen A. Smith certainly had his

00:48:03.090 --> 00:48:05.090
thoughts, but I'm not going to repeat him. Oh,

00:48:05.250 --> 00:48:08.570
a joke. I got fired from the bank today. A woman

00:48:08.570 --> 00:48:10.469
asked me to check her balance, so I pushed her.

00:48:10.550 --> 00:48:14.929
Dad jokes. How much money does a skunk have?

00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:22.199
How much money does a skunk have? Um, huh, I

00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:23.840
don't know. There's not a lot of Disney cartoons

00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:26.559
with skunks with money. I'm trying to think of

00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:30.880
any Scrooge McDuck. Zero dollars? No, just one

00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:37.119
cent. One cent. Tomorrow on the program, George

00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:39.460
Reister joins us. And again, if you missed any

00:48:39.460 --> 00:48:41.900
of Adam Sussman talking about the Timbers...

00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:44.519
A good listen on that Timber Review. It's a podcast

00:48:44.519 --> 00:48:46.579
that Adam Sussman does. He's the co -founder

00:48:46.579 --> 00:48:49.099
of that. Or if you missed, Paul Swangard, who

00:48:49.099 --> 00:48:53.360
is the longtime voice. And we got it cleared

00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:56.059
up. He's not from the heavens. He's like, like

00:48:56.059 --> 00:48:58.579
in the middle of Hayward Field, not as high up

00:48:58.579 --> 00:49:00.559
as he'd like to be. So maybe we can work on that.

00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:02.460
Go back to the podcast. Danny and Justin, listen

00:49:02.460 --> 00:49:05.659
to it there. So, 4 -Hawk for Baby J. Om -Doc.

00:49:05.900 --> 00:49:07.320
God bless. Be well. Put a smile on your face.

00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:08.880
Try and stay cool. It's going to get warmer as

00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:12.400
we head into the weekend. Stay hydrated. Be well.

00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:13.360
Peace.