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Portions of this show are recorded. Strap in

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and be prepared. Room for error is much slimmer

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in basketball. You lose one player and it changes

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your entire team. It's not like that in football.

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It's just not. It's not. Interesting guests.

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Kelly Graves, Mike Parker, Coach Mark Waskowski,

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Noah Eagle, Melissa Lombardi, Kenyon Barnard,

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Jonathan Stewart. Sharp opinions. Dana Altman

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probably earned a pass for a down year after

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almost 20 years. of what he's done for Oregon

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basketball. And some smiles. Guys, I was stuck

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in a car wash. Sounds like an R. Kelly song.

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It's not an R. Kelly song. It's Danny Havel.

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I can't remember, and I've been doing this for

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longer than you've been alive. which is really

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horrible that I have to say that, but it's the

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truth. Justin Grossweiner. It's like the saying

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in Alaska that you don't have to be faster than

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the bear. You just have to be faster than your

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friend. Danny and Justin starts now on Fox Sports

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Eugene and Fox Sports Newport. Sitting in for

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Danny today, it's Goose, Steve Mims. Welcome

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in to the Danny and Justin show on Fox Sports

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Eugene, Fox Sports Newport. This is Steve Mims

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filling in for Danny. Danny is just checked in.

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He's just passed Hood River, heading out to Pendleton

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to be the voice of the USAA at the Class 2A Boys

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and Girls Tournaments out at the Pendleton Convention

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Center. So, Danny, drive safe. If you get to

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Cascade Locks and you get tired, Thunder Island

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Brewing is a great place to stop and maybe grab

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a bite to eat. And enjoy the safe trip out there

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and a good time out in Pendleton. Justin, it'll

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be me and you for three days this week and three

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next week, as next week I think Danny continues

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his OSA tour up in Portland area. Yeah, and today

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we have a lot to talk about, which is always

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good. It feels like whenever you're in here,

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we always have some good things to talk about.

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And yeah, I better get used to it because it's

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going to be the Justin and Steve show over the

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next three days. It will be for the next three.

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You mentioned we have a great guest today, a

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longtime friend of mine, Josh Wilcox. number

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48 in your hearts, or number 48 in your program,

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number one in your hearts, as they say, former

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Oregon tight end. He's coming on, and he's got

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some news to break. He sent me over a text this

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week and told me something was going on, and

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I said, hey, let's save this for the radio. I'm

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on radio this week. I can make some news. So,

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folks, it'll be fun to chat with Josh Wilcox.

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We'll chat about what he's got going on and about

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Oregon Ducks. He'll join us here at about 2 .20.

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So stay tuned to listen to one of the definite

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fan favorite of Oregon Duck fans, Josh Wilcox,

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one of the first to start up kind of the run

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of tight ends that the Ducks have put out. And

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then tomorrow we are going to be track town centric.

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We're going to be out at the track town offices.

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Not the pizzeria, sadly. That's my favorite track

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town office is the pizzeria. But we're going

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to be at the general's office, and we are going

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to be doing some interviews with a couple of

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athletes. It's kind of a media day as they promote

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some of their upcoming events and have some of

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that. So tomorrow will be all track all the time.

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Today is going to be baseball. football, and

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basketball, and softball. So we're going to start

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off and talk about Oregon State, Oregon, baseball

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last night, softball tonight. We'll get into

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basketball in the final segment. And like I said,

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Josh Wilcox in the middle. Justin, you were out

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at PK Park last night, yesterday afternoon, actually,

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3 .05. It was a decent little weather day. Oregon

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State gets the win, 10 -6. They knock off the

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Ducks. You and Danny were talking about kind

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of yesterday who this was more important for.

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It turned out to be a really big win for Oregon

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State. Maybe a missed opportunity. What did you

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see from your vantage point out there at PK?

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Well, just going back to your previous point,

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I definitely think that this was a big game for

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both of these teams for different reasons. Danny

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had some great points of why he thought Oregon

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State was a little bit more important for it.

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But I thought, like you're saying, for Oregon,

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I think they had a little bit to prove here.

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And pitching -wise, it wasn't great for them.

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Miles Gastola, he was a bit spotty. Two earned

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runs. The bullpen. Gave up a couple runs per

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reliever as well. And it's funny because Oregon

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State all season long, they haven't really hit.

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And all of a sudden against Oregon, they're hitting.

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So there was some interesting small ball tactics

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that I thought were really good for Oregon State.

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Again, stuff that I thought maybe we'd see actually

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a little bit more of heading into the season.

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But just, you know, Jacob Galloway puts down

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a bunt with a couple guys on, which was... surprising

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to me because he's their three -hole hitter but

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that just goes to show that there's confidence

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in the guys behind him um overall i mean just

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it felt like oregon state was just a little bit

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deeper oregon had a few chances but they didn't

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really threaten except for late in the game when

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they kind of brought a few runs on uh they had

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runners left on base for sure but you know it

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just it just wasn't the ducks game and it did

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really give a good impression of me of what the

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Beavers are doing because they did look like

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a really solid overall team. Yep. You mentioned

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Oregon takes the lead, gets a run on the first,

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but then the Beavs come back, get two in the

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third, three in the fifth, two in the sixth.

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So by then they're up 7 -1. Both teams kind of

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tack on a little bit there. For the Beavers,

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like you mentioned, it's been a rough go of it

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offensively, but Josh Proctor goes three for

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five with a couple RBIs. You mentioned Galloway,

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the catcher, goes two for three with three RBIs.

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First career home run for Paul Vasquez. And so

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for the Beavs, 10 runs. Runs 10 hits. Pretty

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efficient there. Oregon gets seven hits led by

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Angelia. Two for four with three RBIs. Angelia,

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by the way, is... was the one sitting next to

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my wife at the first pitch. Yeah. And it has

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been a real takeoff for him ever since he met

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my lovely wife. It has been. I'm not sure. I

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keep my wife doesn't pay that much attention

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during baseball, but I keep sure. And look what

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Angel's doing. And so maybe some of the credit

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comes to that. Yeah, no, definitely. That was

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our first introduction to him. And as I was saying,

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I don't know if I said this to you, but when

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I first met him, I thought he was a pitcher or

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something like that because he's just a very

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big dude. He's a big dude. And I think this is

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actually not a big game in terms of like, I think

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that the Oregon program. knows how good this

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guy is and obviously he's played really well

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but to me this was kind of a big game for this

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really the whole team for Oregon as I was kind

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of saying before but for a guy like Angel we

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just haven't seen him against competition like

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this he's been playing really well but to me

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you know he gets a home run he gets a triple

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halfway to the cycle that to me actually really

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cemented how I feel about Angel and just his

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start. It's like, okay, yeah, this guy is definitely

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for real. He plays good defense out there in

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right field as well. So, yeah, Angel is definitely

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for real. He got the tough half of the cycle

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taken care of. He got the hole in the triple.

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He just couldn't get the single and the double.

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But, yeah, Laia has been a real revelation for

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Oregon. He's been a great start, a great kid,

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too, and a really interesting story. I think

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he told us he had committed to Oregon, like,

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freshman year, that basically he knew he wanted

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to come here. So kind of before he was on, and

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then he kind of took off on the recruiting circuit

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after that, but stayed loyal to Oregon. So he

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gets the two hits and then two hits from Ryan

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Cooney. For Oregon now, so Oregon's 10 -2. The

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reason that I think this is a missed opportunity

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for Oregon is just their schedule is not going

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to present enough opportunities in the Big Ten

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to get a lot of ranked wins. I know that there

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has been some consternation. I believe your esteemed

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co -host, Mr. Havel, is one of them. I think

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you're... Your wintertime or your fall co -host,

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Mr. B -Ban, is also one on Twitter. People, why

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aren't they ranked? They're 10 -1. Rank them,

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rank them. Well, they're not ranked because they

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beat George Mason in four games and they beat

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Youngstown State in four games, and both at home.

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And those just aren't great baseball programs,

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so you're not going to get a lot of credit for

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those. Then they go to Vegas. They beat Arizona.

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Not their problem, but Arizona's having its worst

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season in a while. And they beat Vanderbilt,

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traditionally a top -five team that's just having

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a down year now. And then their loss is to UC

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Irvine, which is not ranked. So yesterday was

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kind of the first chance for them to get a win

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over a ranked opponent, and it's Oregon State.

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So that's where I think it's unfortunate that

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they fall flat in that opportunity because getting

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them at home. You know, the Beavs, they're going

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to face them, I think, only one more time, and

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it's at Oregon State. Two more times. Two more

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times. Because they played that other game that

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they announced. Oh, that's right, the one in

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Portland area. So they'll play them three, a

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home away and neutral. Correct. So here's my

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thing. And Oregon, I think, is going to be the

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– well, UCLA. But Oregon's going to be right

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there with them in the Big Ten. I don't look

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at Oregon as having a hard time making the NCAA

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tournament this year. And I said this last year,

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and it's to no fault of Oregon. They went to

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the Big Ten for football, but in baseball, it's

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not a real strong conference. So the issue they're

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going to have is they're playing Nebraska, Illinois,

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Penn State, UW throughout the season when some

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of these other teams are playing really good

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ones. Their best chance to get a ranked win now,

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now they do have three at UCSB later this month,

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UC Santa Barbara. There are actually 43 college

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baseball polls. People may not know this, but

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there are 43 different college baseball polls,

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and UC Santa Barbara is ranked in 26 of them.

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So they're kind of right around there. A little

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bit of exaggeration, but not to say that there

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are a lot of polls. But UC Santa Barbara is getting

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some votes in some polls. So there's a chance

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to get three on the road. That's a nice one there.

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Other than that, the two Oregon State games in

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April, really Oregon's next chance to get a ranked

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win is they're going to have to go to UCLA, who

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is an absolute. wagon right now and ranked number

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one in the country, and then they finish up with

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USC at home, which again, USC getting votes in

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some of the 47 college baseball polls. So it

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just, I think that these Oregon State games are

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important to them because, especially when they're

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at home, because Oregon's going to be at UC Santa

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Barbara and at UCLA, and those are probably the

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two most likely teams to face. That might have

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been the only ranked team they play at home all

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year long, and to miss that opportunity is an

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unfortunate one. But so like I say, I think with

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Oregon that people need to, you know, the record's

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great, it's 10 -2. and just the way that they

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had scheduled it, having George Mason and Youngstown

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State, if they're not popping into polls and

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people are frustrated, they're going to need

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to rack up some good wins, and yesterday was

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a chance to do that that just didn't happen.

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Yeah. No, I completely agree, and the thing about

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it, too, is that it's only one game, which is

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the hard part, is that it's really, there's so

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much randomness to it. They didn't throw out

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each of these teams, their best pitchers. It's

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a midweek game. It's tough to play those teams

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on them. You're playing your ranked team on a

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midweek because neither of you are starting one

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of your top three starters by definition. It's

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a midweek game. Yeah, exactly. And so there was

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talk beforehand. Danny and I were kind of debating,

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like, are they going to throw Dax Whitney out

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there? And I was like, I don't know. This is

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a midweek game. Like, it depends how much they

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valued it. And clearly, they were just going

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to have—Dax would have been on four days rest,

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I think. And they just don't usually do that

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in college. He's getting, like, a whole week,

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basically. They don't get off stride like that.

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No. So I agree. It definitely is unfortunate

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for Oregon because the next time, like you said,

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that they're— They're going to play at home a

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ranked team, potentially, at least by that point.

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We're projecting a little bit here is I think

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it's May 14th. That is a long time from now.

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Correct. Correct. And like you say, the Oregon

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State one. So then they're going to play them.

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The 14th, which is a Tuesday, and the 22nd, which

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is a Wednesday. So, again, they're not going

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to ever face Oregon State with their best arms

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on the mound or, again, seeing Dax Whitney and

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Oregon State's either because those guys are

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always going to be the weekend ones. So, you

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sit there and say, hey, well, you didn't throw

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your best arm at them. But these games all count

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in the rankings and against your record. Your

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lineup's going to be the same, but it's hard

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to get that fourth pitcher, but that's kind of

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a key in college is to try to get that fourth

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guy, A, because a lot of times, like Oregon's

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first two, Series of the year were four -game

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series, so you needed that fourth guy for that.

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And then you need to have a weekday guy in. Like

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you mentioned, Myles Gastola got the start, gave

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up two earned and three innings. Michael Mechna

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comes in, gives up a run and two. Josh Hollis

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gives up four and one and a third. So this is

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where you need to kind of put together. You need

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to kind of put together. It's the old Johnny

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Holstaff. You've got to try to get four or five

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guys to give you an inning or two, and it just

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didn't go that way for Oregon yesterday. Yeah,

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and none of those guys looked comfortable. Oregon

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State was doing a really good job of taking close

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pitches. And they were getting hit by some batters

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as well. Kind of just thinking out loud here,

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it does seem like it's more important for Oregon

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to have those midweek guys and the depth because

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their conference schedule and the Friday, Saturday,

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Sunday games are going to be against teams that

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they should win. Obviously, you want to still

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have guys that you like against teams that you

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should win because you never know. But it does

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feel like, hey, you're going to be playing some

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of these bigger games in the midweek. So you've

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got to figure out who those guys are to be able

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to get the ball and be successful because it's

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not going to be your Friday, Saturday, and Sunday

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starter. Yep. So up next for Oregon, they go

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to Purdue. That is a homecoming for Mark Wasikowski,

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who spent a couple years as the Purdue head coach

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in between his Oregon tenures as an assistant

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before coming back to leave the Boilermakers

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to be the Oregon head coach. And Purdue has beaten

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Oregon State this year. So while you look and

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say, hey, Purdue not great, you're going there

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for three, that would be a really impressive

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sweep. Even getting two out of three is probably

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good. And, again, might not be a ranked team,

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but Purdue has shown they can step up and get

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the big boys with Oregon State. So that's your

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baseball update. Softball Civil War is tonight.

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At least I'm assuming. Last time I looked outside,

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the rain did not look like it was in a great

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place for softball. But this is the start of

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a week for Oregon where they are going to face.

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Oregon State at Oregon State tonight at 6 o 'clock,

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and then they have the Jane Sanders Classic,

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which features Oregon State, and they'll play

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them at home on Friday. But tonight it's Oregon

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at Oregon State. Ducks are 13 -6. They are ranked

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number 18 in the country right now, and they're

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coming off a nice weekend there where they swept

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some games at home against Stetson, Idaho State.

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And Samford. Boy, Stetson -Samford. Try to say

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that four times fast. Maybe get Stanford. Maybe

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next year we can try to get Stanford in for that

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tournament, too. And we'd have Stetson -Samford

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and Stanford. But they already played Stanford

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and lost that game. But, again, softball tonight.

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It's a big one. Oregon State's not in the middle

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of a great year. Oregon State's 9 -12. But they're

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going to get them tonight on a Wednesday. Now,

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in softball, you don't worry about the midweek

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because your pitcher can throw. Yes, exactly.

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A little different, the midweek games in softball

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as compared to baseball. But Oregon, Oregon State.

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And it's now again from. Oregon State is 9 -12,

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Oregon 13 -6. This sets up as a week when Oregon

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should have some success, starting with the two

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against the Beavers, and then their home for

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the Jane Sanders against Sac State, Nevada, playing

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both those teams twice. So actually it's a weird

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schedule. They play Oregon State twice this week,

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Sac State twice this week, and Nevada twice this

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week. So that's the setup there. But a big one

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tonight to kind of get it started when Oregon

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goes on the road for the only one of those when

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they're in Corvallis. Yeah, and they need to

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just get it going. I think that this is in a

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way almost similar to what Oregon State baseball

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has done, where their schedule was front loaded

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and Oregon played a bunch of good teams and they

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had mixed success early in the season, but didn't

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get basically blown out by anybody for the most

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part. So, yeah, I mean, I think this is a. These

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next few games, no matter kind of who you're

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playing to me, are big games because you want

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to get the offense going. They did that last

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weekend. You want to be able to get your – I

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think this is an opportunity to get some of the

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pitchers that are not at least Kolsky and Lindsey

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Grein some innings and some experience as well.

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Maddie Millhorn has been pretty good in her appearances

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that she's had. Spencer Taylor is obviously experienced

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as well. We've seen a little bit of Rowan Thompson.

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So I'd like to see them get some innings as well.

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And for Oregon State softball, I think it's going

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to be about J .A. Butler. If J .A. Butler is

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going to be able to carry this team, I think

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they're going to be able to be competitive. But

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if Oregon can shut her down, the lineup is so

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J .A. Butler -centric. I think that's just going

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to be really tough for them. But they are playing

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up in Corvallis, so you never know. Yep. The

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final non -conference weekend for Oregon, and

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then kind of like the baseball team, softball

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not great in the Big Ten either. So they open

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with Penn State, Purdue, Indiana, Northwestern.

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Not exactly a murderer's row there. All right,

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before we head to the break, we have that special

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segment that everybody looks forward to. It is

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Justin's Wednesday Word of the Week. So, Justin,

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what is our Wednesday Word of the Week? The Wednesday

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Word of the Week this week, which it all started

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out with dynamicism, which Danny didn't believe

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was a word, so that's how we got to this point.

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This week it is acquiesce. And the reason, first

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of all, the definition of acquiesce is to accept

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something without protest. So I think where this

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word came to my mind was Wayne Tinkle. with the

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mutual sounds like decision between Oregon State

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and himself to part ways it sounds like in a

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little bit of a way he acquiesced to the situation

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and figured out that I don't know if you heard

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the interview with John Canzano that sounds like

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there isn't as much money as that they expected

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and he thought coming into next season first

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season in the Pac -12 so It was a time for him

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to sort of accept his situation and move on,

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which was going to be best for him. So I think

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he acquiesced. So that's your word of the week.

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I'll give you the acquiesce. I'm not going to

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say it was mutual. It sounded like Scott Barnes

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told him to go away and that Wayne wasn't very

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happy about it. And so he acquiesced. And so

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at that point, he acquiesced. He didn't acquiesce

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the job. He acquiesced, yes, and came back. I'll

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just give a quick, and I put some out there.

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Of all the coaches I've covered in my career,

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Wayne Tinkle was as enjoyable as anyone. The

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best was if you got him at, like, a Pac -12 tournament

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or a Pac -12 media day and you just had time

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to sit down and BS with him. I remember you would

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love this. He's a big Cubs fan. Oh, yeah? So

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a big time when the Cubs were making that World

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Series run was, like, right around the time of

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Pac -12 media day. because they would do it in

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October before the season. So I remember seeing

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him, and he was just chatting Cubs all the time,

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and we would talk Cubs. I was obviously the duckbeat

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reporter. A lot of times an Oregon State coach

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then thinks, oh, they're on their guard for the

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Oregon reporter to come around. Wayne couldn't

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have been kinder to me. I would run into him

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at airports. We'd sit down, and he'd be a great

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guy to sit down and have a beer with. So I get

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that after 12 years they thought it was time.

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I thought the timing was really weird. We always

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hear coaches say, you know, when coaches leave

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in the middle, we always hear, oh, he didn't

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finish the season. He's supposed to finish, you

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know, and Wayne will, but it feels to me like

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Scott Barnes didn't finish the season. Scott

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Barnes told, you know, basically pulled the rug

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out. Your team's playing well. You're going into

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the tournament. You know, let these guys run

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it out and then make any changes after that.

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And if you're going to tell me, well, we had

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to get started on the search for him, I don't

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buy that much either. So I'll just say if you're

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out there listening, Wayne, I always enjoyed

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every time spent with you, and I wish you luck

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down the road. It sounds like his Kinsana. He's

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going to keep coaching somewhere and try to get

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his son, Trace, to coach with him as well. But

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a first -class human being and, you know, had

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a wild ride there to get to that Elite Eight.

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A couple other nice years as well. A couple fell

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off. So, yeah, like I say, if people want to

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sit there and judge, and I thought Wayne was

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really honest, too. He talked about some of the

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years that weren't that good. But you're right,

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he didn't have all the resources he needed either.

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And good coach, great human being. So he did

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acquiesce, though. You are correct. But he is

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not yet. He will not acquiesce until maybe potentially

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he makes another big run in a conference tournament

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and tries to get himself to an NCAA tournament.

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All right, we're going to head into our first

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break. When we come back, Josh Wilcox. You know

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him as the former great Oregon tight end. He's

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going to come on and break some news, let us

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know what he's up to. We'll chat about that and

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what his thoughts on kind of everything that's

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been going on at Oregon. He's your 1995 Rose

00:19:08.170 --> 00:19:10.450
Bowl hero for the Ducks. I think he had 12 catches

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from Danny O 'Neal that day. When we come back,

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we'll have Josh Wilcox. You're listening to the

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Danny and Justin Show. This is Steve Benfield

00:19:16.769 --> 00:19:18.970
and it's for Danny on Fox Sports Eugene and Fox

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Sports Newport. Welcome back into the Danny and

00:19:25.210 --> 00:19:27.549
Justin show. This is Steve Mims filling in for

00:19:27.549 --> 00:19:30.829
Danny, and we are now joined by a longtime friend

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of mine. He and I were chatting this week about

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a lot of life experiences that he has lived.

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He has been a Rose Bowl star, 11 catches, 135

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yards in your 1995 Rose Bowl, played in the NFL,

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played or was in professional wrestling. Actually

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hosted sports radio for a while up in Portland,

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and now he is adding to his repertoire and his

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resume. Joined now by Josh Wilcox. Josh, thanks

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so much for coming on, man. I really appreciate

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it. Yeah, any time. I appreciate it. So, I mean,

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you guys must be scraping bottom of the barrel.

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No, come on. Well, we heard the news that's out

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this week, so we will let you put the breaking

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news banner up there. Let everybody know what's

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coming up in the Josh Wilcox world. Yeah, add

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it to my list of accomplishments or feats, the

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things I get to do. But I'm taking my other Josh

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Wilcox, Jay Wilcox is jumping into the head coaching

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job. So I'm going to be the head coach at the

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Harrisburg. That's awesome. Go Eagles. Yeah,

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man. All right. Such a good opportunity. Small

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town stuff. Scott Bazaar, ZAD, old Oregon guy.

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You know, his son's a four -time state champ.

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Wrestling program, it's going to help. You know,

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with the football program, I'm just, it's such

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an awesome opportunity. I'm very blessed and

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lucky to get it. Yeah, that's awesome. And obviously

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you were back at your alma mater last year, Junction

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City. But I think about you when you were in

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high school. I mean, you were in the glory days

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when you had Mark Henderson, Craig Rothenberger,

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guys who were devoted to the school, were there

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forever. High school football was fun. It wasn't

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transferring and NIL and all about going on to

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college. Feels like Harrisburg is the kind of

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place where you can kind of replicate maybe the

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experience that you had at Junction City in the

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90s. Oh, by far. I mean, you know, we kind of,

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when I was there, we helped start it for Henderson.

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But, you know, Harrisburg wants to help build

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a program. The small town values are something,

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of course, that appeal to me. Knowing that people

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can go play out of small schools, you don't have

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to transfer, that's a big thing for me. But,

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you know, just to build a program, help the community,

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give these kids, you know, a chance if they want

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to go to the next level, but a chance to have

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success, coach them up. I'm going to get a bunch

00:21:38.539 --> 00:21:42.349
of great assistance. But, yeah, the whole place

00:21:42.349 --> 00:21:45.609
to me is the opportunity to kind of, you know,

00:21:45.609 --> 00:21:47.470
do what my parents did in Junction City and my

00:21:47.470 --> 00:21:49.210
brother and I had a chance to do to help the

00:21:49.210 --> 00:21:53.130
town. And now I get to go down river or up river,

00:21:53.250 --> 00:21:55.670
I should say, about two miles and help Harrisburg.

00:21:55.890 --> 00:21:58.269
Yeah, that's awesome. I've known you for a while.

00:21:58.289 --> 00:22:00.109
I never thought that coaching was kind of in

00:22:00.109 --> 00:22:01.809
your blood. Was this something that you had thought

00:22:01.809 --> 00:22:03.450
may come or did this kind of come out of the

00:22:03.450 --> 00:22:05.329
blue because of the enjoyment you had in Junction

00:22:05.329 --> 00:22:08.849
City last year? Oh, yeah. No, this is like. Everybody

00:22:08.849 --> 00:22:13.650
is just as shocked as I am. It was a 1 % chance

00:22:13.650 --> 00:22:16.410
that I helped Junction City last year. Everything

00:22:16.410 --> 00:22:18.890
fell into place. And then, you know, I did find

00:22:18.890 --> 00:22:21.609
– and credit to Coach Rauscher and Bart Rothenberger

00:22:21.609 --> 00:22:25.490
for allowing me to help out. But I found something

00:22:25.490 --> 00:22:27.950
that, you know, made a difference in my life.

00:22:28.609 --> 00:22:30.950
And the opportunity at Harrisburg, it's like

00:22:30.950 --> 00:22:33.690
a no -brainer to me. Yeah. So it was very impactful

00:22:33.690 --> 00:22:35.450
last year getting to coach in Junction City,

00:22:35.529 --> 00:22:37.750
help the community. I had some awesome kids.

00:22:38.450 --> 00:22:40.430
You know, again, the coach with Coach Rauscher

00:22:40.430 --> 00:22:42.529
and the other assistants, you know, Bart gave

00:22:42.529 --> 00:22:45.470
me an opportunity. So I'm very blessed, you know,

00:22:45.490 --> 00:22:47.210
for all those things. But saying that, you know,

00:22:47.250 --> 00:22:49.119
we want to play them. And I know Ty wants to

00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:51.420
get it done. So it's going to be on Bart to get

00:22:51.420 --> 00:22:55.400
it done. We'll do it anytime, anywhere. So we

00:22:55.400 --> 00:22:57.819
want to do that. Sounds good. A little bit of

00:22:57.819 --> 00:22:59.420
the wrestling came out there. Anytime, anywhere,

00:22:59.519 --> 00:23:00.880
we'll do this thing in the parking lot, whatever.

00:23:01.140 --> 00:23:04.240
You know, a little bit. You talked about Harrisburg.

00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:06.339
Last year was nine -man. Now it's coming back

00:23:06.339 --> 00:23:10.599
up to 11 -man this year. Have you got your digging

00:23:10.599 --> 00:23:12.279
all your plays in the dirt? You got an offense

00:23:12.279 --> 00:23:15.660
ready to sprawl out on some folks? Yeah, I mean,

00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:17.640
we're looking at some things, kind of what we

00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:20.240
can do. I was just nerding out on huddle. I mean,

00:23:20.259 --> 00:23:22.019
again, I never thought in March I'd be watching

00:23:22.019 --> 00:23:24.680
huddle film, high school football. But, yeah,

00:23:24.799 --> 00:23:27.519
I mean, we got some great players. You know,

00:23:27.539 --> 00:23:29.339
Chase Herrera is our stud. Everybody's going

00:23:29.339 --> 00:23:32.440
to key on him. I think Brody Phillips and Parker

00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:34.519
Jordan, I coached Parker's brother at Junction

00:23:34.519 --> 00:23:36.180
City last year. Those are my two tight end guys.

00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:39.140
And so I think they're kind of – it looks great

00:23:39.140 --> 00:23:40.819
and sounds great, but they're in a world of hurt

00:23:40.819 --> 00:23:44.660
if I'm coaching them. Yeah. Yeah, it'll be. There's

00:23:44.660 --> 00:23:46.700
a lot. Yeah, I'm moving up to 11, man. We're

00:23:46.700 --> 00:23:49.359
in a different league. We're going to play like

00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:54.599
Jervis, Sio, Newport, some other teams like that.

00:23:54.700 --> 00:23:56.660
So it's, you know, the chance to go out there

00:23:56.660 --> 00:23:58.539
and compete. The last time they won a title was

00:23:58.539 --> 00:24:02.839
2016. We got over 15 seniors. You know, we can

00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:05.359
go maybe do something what Junction did last

00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:07.220
year where, you know, it was a senior -laden

00:24:07.220 --> 00:24:09.420
team. There's some talent out there. The cupboard

00:24:09.420 --> 00:24:12.519
isn't bare. The community wants – everything's

00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:15.079
lined up for this program, for myself to have

00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:19.319
success, the entire team, all the coaches. Again,

00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:21.259
it's like one of these beautiful scenarios where

00:24:21.259 --> 00:24:24.220
everybody's in alignment and we're all going

00:24:24.220 --> 00:24:27.200
forward, which is unusual now in football. Sure.

00:24:27.259 --> 00:24:29.680
It definitely is, especially in today's age.

00:24:29.799 --> 00:24:31.720
But Josh, first of all, congratulations on the

00:24:31.720 --> 00:24:33.960
opportunity. Second of all, you mentioned your

00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:36.279
staff. Any thought about maybe bringing your

00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:38.160
brother in to be a defensive coordinator, something

00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:41.180
like that? Well, I mean, he's still holding out

00:24:41.180 --> 00:24:45.099
for bigger money. You know, imagine the kids

00:24:45.099 --> 00:24:46.920
like shock on their face when they thought it

00:24:46.920 --> 00:24:50.420
was Jay Wilcox and they got right. You can't

00:24:50.420 --> 00:24:52.619
sell yourself like that. Yeah, he's actually,

00:24:52.680 --> 00:24:56.700
you know, he's certainly excited for me. I'm

00:24:56.700 --> 00:24:58.259
not going to lie. He helped us a couple of times

00:24:58.259 --> 00:25:00.980
or gave us some advice last year or some thoughts

00:25:00.980 --> 00:25:02.599
before we played Marist, which were helpful.

00:25:04.099 --> 00:25:07.240
But it was, yeah, I mean, Justin's super excited.

00:25:08.530 --> 00:25:11.109
for myself to get this opportunity. I think he's

00:25:11.109 --> 00:25:13.190
good to take a break for a second, too. I mean,

00:25:13.230 --> 00:25:16.000
he's been doing that 25 years. he can kind of

00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:17.859
figure out who wants to do. And like I said,

00:25:17.900 --> 00:25:19.200
he'll be all right. You know, they gave him a

00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:21.579
little nice little package to go away. And just

00:25:21.579 --> 00:25:24.039
for yourself, obviously high school football,

00:25:24.180 --> 00:25:26.059
it's not going to be glamor all the time. You've

00:25:26.059 --> 00:25:27.799
got to do, you know, some of the dirty work,

00:25:27.859 --> 00:25:29.559
obviously be in there every day, work with these

00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:31.440
kids. You know, you already mentioned you're

00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:32.740
kind of already grinding on the huddle tape,

00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:35.240
which I love. How much of this is just a commitment

00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:36.839
to the passion of the game for you? Obviously

00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:38.180
you've been so involved with the game your whole

00:25:38.180 --> 00:25:39.880
life, but you know, this is an opportunity to

00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:41.339
pass some of the things you've learned down to

00:25:41.339 --> 00:25:43.079
some of these kids. Like how much of it is a

00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:45.890
commitment to that passion for you? Oh, honestly,

00:25:46.150 --> 00:25:48.049
it's a lot. I mean, I love the game, and it's

00:25:48.049 --> 00:25:52.069
given me in my life opportunities that Steve

00:25:52.069 --> 00:25:54.329
mentioned before. All those opportunities came

00:25:54.329 --> 00:25:56.890
because of football and sports and the community

00:25:56.890 --> 00:26:00.089
I grew up in and my family. And so a lot of that's

00:26:00.089 --> 00:26:02.430
given back to the kids, given them an opportunity.

00:26:02.690 --> 00:26:06.369
And then I just want to make sure, and this is

00:26:06.369 --> 00:26:08.490
kind of where, as I had these experiences and

00:26:08.490 --> 00:26:10.269
I had some awesome coaches, I want to make sure

00:26:10.269 --> 00:26:13.049
I come back and teach these kids a couple things.

00:26:14.029 --> 00:26:17.089
make them better players and as i as i learned

00:26:17.089 --> 00:26:18.630
last year junction it could just be one or two

00:26:18.630 --> 00:26:21.309
small things but once it clicks and that light

00:26:21.309 --> 00:26:23.769
bulb goes on the confidence and that's the fun

00:26:23.769 --> 00:26:25.690
part man showing them one or two things it's

00:26:25.690 --> 00:26:28.430
not like a huge like one thing on a route or

00:26:28.430 --> 00:26:30.589
one thing when you're blocking and and when they

00:26:30.589 --> 00:26:32.349
get that and they get the confidence that's the

00:26:32.349 --> 00:26:34.900
best part about all of it yeah This sounds like

00:26:34.900 --> 00:26:36.819
a long -term deal for you, too. I mean, we see

00:26:36.819 --> 00:26:38.539
a lot of times at small schools you get somebody

00:26:38.539 --> 00:26:40.480
who comes in and, you know, does it for a year

00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:42.839
or two and then gets run out or, you know, decides

00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:44.420
that it's not worth it. This sounds like you

00:26:44.420 --> 00:26:46.339
want to build something, I don't want to say

00:26:46.339 --> 00:26:48.440
a Mark Henderson -length tenure, but this sounds

00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:51.039
like this could be a long -time run for you out

00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:53.799
there. Oh, yeah. I mean, there would be no other

00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:55.559
place that I would rather, you know. I wasn't

00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:58.759
going to go coach anywhere else. You know, I'm

00:26:58.759 --> 00:27:03.059
a small -town guy. jokingly like 25 minutes to

00:27:03.059 --> 00:27:07.000
Sheldon's too much for me. Right. But yeah, yeah,

00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:09.519
I just, it's the opportunity. And again, like

00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:11.819
I never thought I'd be a head coach, but it's

00:27:11.819 --> 00:27:13.819
just looking at the opportunity, my experience

00:27:13.819 --> 00:27:17.019
last year with the kids and the coaches and helping

00:27:17.019 --> 00:27:19.779
that out, the community out and, you know, lined

00:27:19.779 --> 00:27:22.720
up perfectly, you know, within my career. And

00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:25.279
so it's, yeah, the opportunity to build something,

00:27:25.299 --> 00:27:27.960
do something and leave this place better. Like

00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:29.680
end of the day, that's what matters most to me.

00:27:30.269 --> 00:27:32.289
We've seen a lot of teams are running, you know,

00:27:32.309 --> 00:27:35.009
12, 13 personnel. Could we get to like a 16,

00:27:35.089 --> 00:27:37.369
17 personnel where you just got tight ends throughout

00:27:37.369 --> 00:27:39.890
the field? Yeah, we were going to kind of just

00:27:39.890 --> 00:27:44.170
maybe hike it to the tight end. So, yeah, I think

00:27:44.170 --> 00:27:45.970
that's the worry is we have some skill players.

00:27:46.109 --> 00:27:48.170
And so they hear this guy who loves tight ends

00:27:48.170 --> 00:27:50.450
and they're kind of like, oh, they're grabbing

00:27:50.450 --> 00:27:52.049
some of their, you know, friends to make sure

00:27:52.049 --> 00:27:54.960
we do a little bit of spread or. some certain

00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:57.500
kind of fly sweeps or things like that. Sounds

00:27:57.500 --> 00:28:00.940
good there. Sounds like you've got no time for

00:28:00.940 --> 00:28:03.359
an announcement yet, but some names, maybe some

00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:05.960
familiar names we've heard of before from come

00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:08.559
out and join your staff out there? Yeah, I'm

00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:11.359
working feverishly over the phones, talking to

00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:14.400
agents, trying to offer up some Dairy Mart NIL

00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:17.400
deals. We're working all angles here to get everybody

00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:20.660
we can. The salary structure in high school football

00:28:20.660 --> 00:28:23.380
is a little bit different district to district,

00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:25.980
but We're putting some young guys together and

00:28:25.980 --> 00:28:29.460
then some studs locally and around the state.

00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:31.440
Then I'm going to try to add some guys that have

00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:34.480
been in a long time to help mentor those coaches

00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:38.160
and mentor myself. It's kind of new for me. I

00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:40.240
want to have people that have done it before,

00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:43.299
have been in those situations, and can help everybody.

00:28:43.769 --> 00:28:45.529
I'm calling Rich Brooks and Mike Belotti, and

00:28:45.529 --> 00:28:47.490
I'm sure those two would probably be as surprised

00:28:47.490 --> 00:28:49.369
as anybody to find out that you're coaching.

00:28:49.529 --> 00:28:52.670
But you call those guys and say, hey, I decided

00:28:52.670 --> 00:28:55.130
to get into this. Can I get some tips? Yeah,

00:28:55.190 --> 00:28:57.769
I mean, I hit up Dirk Cutter and then Gray Woods,

00:28:57.869 --> 00:29:00.470
so they both said no. If I had Ditka's number,

00:29:00.529 --> 00:29:02.410
that would be way different. But last year when

00:29:02.410 --> 00:29:04.950
I was coaching at Junction City, I told one of

00:29:04.950 --> 00:29:06.670
my kids, I said, Mike Ditka was my coach. And

00:29:06.670 --> 00:29:09.390
he looked at me and said, who? Oh, no. Yeah,

00:29:10.490 --> 00:29:14.730
you know. So, yeah, plenty of coaches in my Rolodex

00:29:14.730 --> 00:29:17.529
to call, but it's, again, you know. I got to

00:29:17.529 --> 00:29:19.250
work on that Dairy Mart to get me some more biscuits

00:29:19.250 --> 00:29:21.930
and gravy money for breakfast. That's true. Yeah,

00:29:21.950 --> 00:29:23.990
Dairy Mart and there's some subways out there.

00:29:24.089 --> 00:29:26.809
We can, I know, I know the subway. Oh, Abbey's.

00:29:26.869 --> 00:29:28.509
We're going to work Abbey's, you know, hardcore

00:29:28.509 --> 00:29:30.650
on that one. The subway out in Harrisburg, I

00:29:30.650 --> 00:29:32.410
know does pretty good business out there with

00:29:32.410 --> 00:29:34.250
some of the businesses in the schools. So you

00:29:34.250 --> 00:29:36.250
should, you should be able to hit them up. And

00:29:36.250 --> 00:29:38.329
yeah, I've seen, I've seen Jordan Kent and some

00:29:38.329 --> 00:29:39.890
people on like Abbey's commercials. You could

00:29:39.890 --> 00:29:41.829
have your own Abbey's commercial talking about

00:29:41.829 --> 00:29:43.690
that's the place we went after high school football

00:29:43.690 --> 00:29:46.700
when we beat Marist all those years ago. Oh,

00:29:46.700 --> 00:29:48.660
yeah, exactly that. And, you know, I think one

00:29:48.660 --> 00:29:50.180
of our big fundraisers is we're going to have

00:29:50.180 --> 00:29:53.339
parking spots for tractors and combines. So we're

00:29:53.339 --> 00:29:54.380
going to charge a little bit more for those.

00:29:55.500 --> 00:29:57.799
Ladies and gentlemen, he is the new head coach

00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:00.859
at Harrisburg High School. Go Eagles. And if

00:30:00.859 --> 00:30:02.980
you want to make some donations to help him put

00:30:02.980 --> 00:30:05.839
together a top -notch staff, you can find him

00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:08.859
on Twitter at RealJoshWilcox. Josh, it's been

00:30:08.859 --> 00:30:10.480
great to run into you a couple times recently,

00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:12.740
and I'm stoked for you on this opportunity. And

00:30:12.740 --> 00:30:14.200
it's cool to hear your passion for it and how

00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:16.259
much you want to do it. And I look forward to

00:30:16.259 --> 00:30:17.819
catching up soon and chatting more about it.

00:30:17.859 --> 00:30:19.359
But really appreciate you taking a few minutes

00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:21.579
to come on and help me try to get through an

00:30:21.579 --> 00:30:23.059
hour of radio. You know, this isn't what I'm

00:30:23.059 --> 00:30:25.839
good at either. To have somebody who can talk

00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:27.240
for a few minutes to help me get through the

00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:29.799
hour was really appreciated. No, always, man.

00:30:29.900 --> 00:30:31.200
You guys are the best. I appreciate everything,

00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:33.500
Steve. Thanks, man. Sounds good, man. Josh Wilcox.

00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:37.410
He is, again. Rose Bowl hero for the Ducks. 11

00:30:37.410 --> 00:30:40.069
catches for 135 yards in the game against Penn

00:30:40.069 --> 00:30:42.490
State. And he's the one who started what has

00:30:42.490 --> 00:30:46.569
become George Reitster to now Kenyon Sadiq to

00:30:46.569 --> 00:30:48.710
many in between. But it was kind of Josh who

00:30:48.710 --> 00:30:50.269
got the tight end position going for Oregon.

00:30:50.529 --> 00:30:52.430
And just an all -around is hopefully you could

00:30:52.430 --> 00:30:54.710
tell from there, great dude. All right. We are

00:30:54.710 --> 00:30:56.210
going to come back. When we come back, we will

00:30:56.210 --> 00:30:58.410
chat about some Oregon basketball. The men fell

00:30:58.410 --> 00:31:00.930
last night on the road. The women begin what

00:31:00.930 --> 00:31:03.289
should hopefully be a nice run through the Big

00:31:03.289 --> 00:31:06.910
Ten tournament tonight. on the men and look ahead

00:31:06.910 --> 00:31:09.029
to the women when we come back. This is Steve

00:31:09.029 --> 00:31:11.289
Mims. I'm building it for Danny. This is the

00:31:11.289 --> 00:31:13.809
Danny and Justin show on Fox Sports, Eugene and

00:31:13.809 --> 00:31:19.009
Fox Sports, Newport. Welcome back into the Danny

00:31:19.009 --> 00:31:21.150
and Justin show and really, really appreciate

00:31:21.150 --> 00:31:25.380
Josh Wilcox coming on. That's a fun dude. Yeah,

00:31:25.460 --> 00:31:28.220
great interview. Both are the brothers. I mean,

00:31:28.259 --> 00:31:31.000
really fantastic guys. For my first time talking

00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:32.339
to them, but like you said, you can definitely

00:31:32.339 --> 00:31:34.019
tell he's a really good guy. Yeah, good dude,

00:31:34.099 --> 00:31:37.099
good family, and really excited for him. He is

00:31:37.099 --> 00:31:38.700
fired up for that Harrisburg thing. Like I say,

00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:40.640
it's great when a community like that doesn't

00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:42.519
just get somebody who comes in and maybe wants

00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:44.539
to do it for a minute or something, but actually

00:31:44.539 --> 00:31:46.380
is going to commit to the job and try to build

00:31:46.380 --> 00:31:47.980
that program. Kind of reminds me a little bit

00:31:47.980 --> 00:31:50.160
of... Ty Rosher, we got a chance to talk to him,

00:31:50.180 --> 00:31:52.440
and you could tell immediately the enthusiasm,

00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:55.440
the passion. I think that that was the same things

00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:58.660
that I got from Josh right there. Yeah, Ty, who

00:31:58.660 --> 00:32:00.380
had played at Junction City, kind of like Josh,

00:32:00.460 --> 00:32:03.869
then went back last year. my understanding was

00:32:03.869 --> 00:32:06.349
that it was Ty's first time as the coach. So

00:32:06.349 --> 00:32:07.970
they had said, hey, let's try to help him out.

00:32:08.049 --> 00:32:09.809
And they brought in, like, I think Mark Henderson,

00:32:09.950 --> 00:32:11.289
the old Junction City coach, came and helped

00:32:11.289 --> 00:32:13.549
out. Josh helped out. Like I said, Justin actually

00:32:13.549 --> 00:32:15.890
was – my understanding was called and gave him

00:32:15.890 --> 00:32:17.990
some ideas. And so they kind of brought some

00:32:17.990 --> 00:32:19.630
old players back to kind of, hey, let's help

00:32:19.630 --> 00:32:22.970
the first -year guy. And that, like I say, in

00:32:22.970 --> 00:32:24.829
all my years knowing Josh, I never thought he

00:32:24.829 --> 00:32:26.890
was going to be getting into coaching. But it

00:32:26.890 --> 00:32:28.750
sounds like that really sparked it. And like

00:32:28.750 --> 00:32:30.730
I say, not a guy who wants to go to 6A or someplace

00:32:30.730 --> 00:32:32.329
where he's going to have to deal with a – bunch

00:32:32.329 --> 00:32:34.869
of BS on the side. He wants to kind of go do

00:32:34.869 --> 00:32:37.069
some old school football. Right. I guess my question,

00:32:37.109 --> 00:32:38.750
because I don't have as much experience with

00:32:38.750 --> 00:32:40.920
him. You've said that a couple times. He said

00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:42.319
that a couple times. What do you mean by that

00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:43.720
exactly that you didn't expect him to get into

00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:45.579
coaching? Oh, I think everybody always thought,

00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:47.339
oh, Justin's the cerebral one over there, and

00:32:47.339 --> 00:32:50.839
Josh is the funny one. I mean, he was in pro

00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:53.299
wrestling. He hosted a radio show for a while.

00:32:53.380 --> 00:32:55.460
So I think it was always like he's kind of doing

00:32:55.460 --> 00:32:58.000
these things over here, but you need the X's

00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:00.279
and O's guy. That's the Justin one. And Josh

00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:01.740
has always obviously been really smart about

00:33:01.740 --> 00:33:04.559
football. And like he said there, I think he

00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:06.799
kind of looked a lot of times at high school

00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:08.839
football these days. You look from afar. And

00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:09.960
it's like, man, that just doesn't look right.

00:33:09.980 --> 00:33:11.380
It's not like the good old days. You know, you've

00:33:11.380 --> 00:33:13.160
got to deal with so much BS and this and that.

00:33:13.460 --> 00:33:15.259
And I think he needed to find a place like a

00:33:15.259 --> 00:33:17.200
Harrisburg that's like, hey, we want you to come

00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:18.859
in and coach football, be part of this community,

00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:21.579
stay here and build something, and we're not

00:33:21.579 --> 00:33:23.240
going to run you out if one parent thinks that

00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:24.900
you're not playing their kid enough type stuff.

00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:28.119
So I think that's what it was there. So thanks

00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.980
to Josh. All right. Basketball, Oregon, Illinois

00:33:30.980 --> 00:33:34.160
last night. It was another rough one for the

00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.119
Ducks. Down 20 at the half, 41 -21. Didn't get

00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:40.500
much better against... The Illini top, I think,

00:33:40.500 --> 00:33:44.200
ranked 11th right now. For Oregon, Wei Lin was

00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:46.500
a late scratch. We're still not exactly sure.

00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:48.220
At least I didn't see what exactly happened to

00:33:48.220 --> 00:33:51.240
him. Nate Biddle, as usual, leads the way, 15

00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:54.319
points, although only one of seven on threes.

00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:56.819
Kwame Evans, 13 points, although only one of

00:33:56.819 --> 00:33:59.339
six on threes. So Oregon shoots five of 29 on

00:33:59.339 --> 00:34:03.519
threes and manages only 54 points, falls to 11

00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:09.369
and 19. 4 -15 in conference play, and they head

00:34:09.369 --> 00:34:13.469
into their finale, and I hate to say it, against

00:34:13.469 --> 00:34:16.210
Washington, 8 o 'clock on a Saturday night. That

00:34:16.210 --> 00:34:18.690
is not what you want for your senior night because

00:34:18.690 --> 00:34:20.389
it's going to have a hard time maybe getting

00:34:20.389 --> 00:34:22.849
some fans out at 8 o 'clock for a battle, although

00:34:22.849 --> 00:34:24.550
it's the Huxkies and the Ducks, so hopefully

00:34:24.550 --> 00:34:26.630
they'll get some people out to say goodbye to

00:34:26.630 --> 00:34:28.190
Nate Biddle, who's certainly been a great all

00:34:28.190 --> 00:34:31.150
-time Oregon senior, and Oregon normally does

00:34:31.150 --> 00:34:34.099
their senior day activities after the game. because

00:34:34.099 --> 00:34:35.940
they don't like to kind of mess with the emotion

00:34:35.940 --> 00:34:38.900
beforehand, as Ben Daniels thinks. So have some

00:34:38.900 --> 00:34:40.480
coffee before you head out to the game for an

00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:42.119
8 o 'clock tip, and then a senior day afterwards

00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:45.280
that will showcase. I say Nate Biddle. Honestly,

00:34:45.380 --> 00:34:46.199
I look at the rest of these guys, and I'm like,

00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:48.199
I'm pretty sure that it's senior night for Takai

00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:50.119
Sinkins, but these days, you just never know

00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:51.440
if it's senior night for Sinkins. Maybe even

00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:52.800
Nate Biddle gets a seventh year. We'll never

00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:54.820
know. I know it'll be Nate Biddle. I don't know

00:34:54.820 --> 00:34:56.159
who else is going to get a senior day there.

00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:59.860
But anyway, for Illinois, it was Andrei Stojakovic,

00:34:59.960 --> 00:35:03.699
who originally played at Stanford. 21 points

00:35:03.699 --> 00:35:06.280
as well. Cal, yeah. And his dad, of course, Peja.

00:35:06.699 --> 00:35:10.639
21 and 12, 19 points from David Merkovich. And

00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:12.639
then Keaton Wagler, the potential lottery pick,

00:35:12.739 --> 00:35:16.300
had 11 points in that one there. And you were

00:35:16.300 --> 00:35:18.159
watching it. And, again, I'm going to give you

00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:20.380
the last names of the players at Illinois. We

00:35:20.380 --> 00:35:23.400
have Merkovich. We have Ivasich. We have Stojakovic.

00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:26.360
We have Hummersich. We have Ivasich. We have

00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:29.070
Petrovich. Your thoughts on the Illinois roster

00:35:29.070 --> 00:35:31.170
construction, Justin? Well, they're a really

00:35:31.170 --> 00:35:32.789
interesting team to me. I think I saw a clip

00:35:32.789 --> 00:35:36.969
one time that they, at times, have an all -European

00:35:36.969 --> 00:35:38.769
lineup that doesn't speak any English, which

00:35:38.769 --> 00:35:40.809
is kind of hilarious. But I think that they're

00:35:40.809 --> 00:35:44.289
very representative of how good teams at this

00:35:44.289 --> 00:35:47.130
point build their rosters in college basketball.

00:35:47.329 --> 00:35:49.489
Listen, they're in the Big Ten. Obviously, the

00:35:49.489 --> 00:35:52.889
program historically has been pretty good, had

00:35:52.889 --> 00:35:54.829
some success, made some tournament runs. But

00:35:54.829 --> 00:35:56.750
it's not North Carolina or anything like that.

00:35:56.750 --> 00:35:58.809
that. But this is a program, we talk about the

00:35:58.809 --> 00:36:02.289
Ivicic brothers, both 7 -1 and 7 -2. They both

00:36:02.289 --> 00:36:05.409
played professional basketball since 2019 in

00:36:05.409 --> 00:36:07.690
Croatia. I mean, these are professional basketball

00:36:07.690 --> 00:36:09.570
players, basically. Mirkovic, who you mentioned,

00:36:09.690 --> 00:36:11.829
also played professionally in Montenegro since

00:36:11.829 --> 00:36:15.389
2022. Stajakovic, he was a guy that was recruited

00:36:15.389 --> 00:36:17.130
out of high school. You mentioned he went to

00:36:17.130 --> 00:36:19.769
Stanford and then transferred to Cal, now transferred

00:36:19.769 --> 00:36:22.269
to Illinois. And then they have guys, though,

00:36:22.329 --> 00:36:24.690
that aren't those professional players as well.

00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:27.639
Kylan Boswell. He was recruited to Arizona in

00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:29.820
2022. He was actually the youngest player in

00:36:29.820 --> 00:36:32.139
college basketball, completed his freshman season

00:36:32.139 --> 00:36:35.559
at 17 years old in the Pac -12, by the way. He

00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:38.960
played, I remember his freshman year, he hit

00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:40.960
a big shot to help Tommy Lloyd beat Oregon at

00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:43.039
Oregon. Right. So he's been around for a while,

00:36:43.059 --> 00:36:44.820
obviously, but he was born in Champaign. So they

00:36:44.820 --> 00:36:47.820
still do some of the local guys, obviously. And

00:36:47.820 --> 00:36:49.599
then you have their four -star prospect like

00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:51.420
Keaton Wagler, who's just a guy from Kansas.

00:36:51.500 --> 00:36:52.920
So it's not like there's any sort of connection

00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:54.860
there. It just comes down to being. good program

00:36:54.860 --> 00:36:57.260
so it just sort of makes me think about we've

00:36:57.260 --> 00:36:59.980
talked so much about dane altman and his future

00:36:59.980 --> 00:37:02.260
and a lot of it's been down to hey how do you

00:37:02.260 --> 00:37:04.619
how do you build a roster now and is that the

00:37:04.619 --> 00:37:06.420
thing that i don't have any doubt what the x's

00:37:06.420 --> 00:37:09.079
and o's with dane altman at any given time but

00:37:09.079 --> 00:37:11.519
the roster construction has it wasn't there this

00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:14.780
season for sure so i look at illinois and i wonder

00:37:14.780 --> 00:37:18.960
can oregon you don't have to do that exact thing

00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:21.300
but do you have to replicate that sort of thing

00:37:21.300 --> 00:37:22.860
you're getting some local guys you're going to

00:37:22.860 --> 00:37:25.710
be able to And Ariza is a good example of you're

00:37:25.710 --> 00:37:27.610
getting your five -star that doesn't have any

00:37:27.610 --> 00:37:29.750
local ties to Oregon. But then you have these

00:37:29.750 --> 00:37:32.369
basically professional players that they're bringing

00:37:32.369 --> 00:37:34.730
over from Europe. Like Wei Lin, I guess, is sort

00:37:34.730 --> 00:37:36.849
of an example of that. But Illinois is doing

00:37:36.849 --> 00:37:39.829
that with six, seven guys. They have a few guys

00:37:39.829 --> 00:37:41.969
that are from the local area, but many of these

00:37:41.969 --> 00:37:44.570
players are just from Eastern Europe or something

00:37:44.570 --> 00:37:46.630
like that. So I just think it's very interesting.

00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:48.539
And they tend to be some of the big dudes. These

00:37:48.539 --> 00:37:50.420
aren't normally the guards. Exactly. And it's

00:37:50.420 --> 00:37:51.860
the same thing with Arizona. Arizona's got a

00:37:51.860 --> 00:37:54.139
couple Europeans. Tommy Lloyd, since his days

00:37:54.139 --> 00:37:56.360
at Gonzaga, has focused on that, and it's paid

00:37:56.360 --> 00:37:58.280
off for him at Arizona. Now, Oregon, for a long

00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:00.099
time, had the Canadian connection. Oregon had

00:38:00.099 --> 00:38:06.780
a lot of success. Dylan Brooks. with Jason Caliste

00:38:06.780 --> 00:38:10.840
when he came over. They had all sorts. Mike Menega

00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:12.420
was kind of the connection there. He had some

00:38:12.420 --> 00:38:15.619
Northeast ties. So Oregon was getting a lot of

00:38:15.619 --> 00:38:17.420
players from Canada to come over. That's dried

00:38:17.420 --> 00:38:20.710
up a little bit recently. Boucher. Barthelmy.

00:38:20.909 --> 00:38:22.730
Yep, Barthelmy. Quincy Garrier. Thank you, thank

00:38:22.730 --> 00:38:23.889
you, thank you. I've got you. Thank you. No,

00:38:23.949 --> 00:38:25.909
I appreciate it. For a guy who covered the team

00:38:25.909 --> 00:38:27.510
for seven years, I should have been able to remember

00:38:27.510 --> 00:38:29.929
a few more of the Canadian players. But that

00:38:29.929 --> 00:38:31.670
was definitely a big spot for them was to get

00:38:31.670 --> 00:38:33.849
those guys. And then they filled it in with some

00:38:33.849 --> 00:38:35.590
five stars. You know, I mean, there was a year

00:38:35.590 --> 00:38:37.570
where it was Lou King and Bull Bull. And there

00:38:37.570 --> 00:38:39.030
was a year where it was Troy Brown. And there

00:38:39.030 --> 00:38:40.550
was a year, you know, a couple years ago where

00:38:40.550 --> 00:38:42.750
it was Biddle and Shelstead. So they've been

00:38:42.750 --> 00:38:44.769
able to kind of have this connection to Canada

00:38:44.769 --> 00:38:46.809
to really get some players out of there. Richard

00:38:46.809 --> 00:38:50.300
Amardi was another one. from there, and then

00:38:50.300 --> 00:38:51.800
filled it in with some high school guys, and

00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:53.039
it was kind of a nice mix. And people forget,

00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:55.659
when the grad transfer thing first came in, Dana

00:38:55.659 --> 00:38:57.380
was one of the first ones to really get after

00:38:57.380 --> 00:38:59.860
that hard. And he brought in a lot of guys like

00:38:59.860 --> 00:39:02.059
that when others were not quite kind of moving

00:39:02.059 --> 00:39:05.639
into that yet. It'll be interesting to see. I'd

00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:07.539
be curious to see what Oregon's roster construction

00:39:07.539 --> 00:39:09.780
looks like next year. Now, A, it starts with

00:39:09.780 --> 00:39:11.260
retention. How many of these guys come back?

00:39:11.340 --> 00:39:13.699
And we discussed this before. Like I said, we

00:39:13.699 --> 00:39:15.840
know Biddle can't come back. The other ones,

00:39:15.900 --> 00:39:18.019
I'll let the compliance department decide which

00:39:18.019 --> 00:39:19.579
guys don't have, or the Supreme Court. Eligibility.

00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:22.380
Or the Supreme Court determine that. But, you

00:39:22.380 --> 00:39:25.300
know, if you could bring back a Kwame and a Jackson

00:39:25.300 --> 00:39:28.940
Shelstad and a Sean Stewart. and, you know, mix

00:39:28.940 --> 00:39:31.940
in the Ariza, you know, and maybe a transfer

00:39:31.940 --> 00:39:34.039
or two. There's certainly a team that you could

00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:35.480
look at next year and think, hey, they're right

00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:37.800
back in it. If some of those guys transfer out,

00:39:37.860 --> 00:39:39.440
which just happens everywhere at this point,

00:39:39.539 --> 00:39:42.599
you know, then you're going to have a tougher

00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:44.940
build. So I think that's the curiosity for next

00:39:44.940 --> 00:39:47.360
year. I think we've gotten past the is Dane Altman

00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:49.039
coming back. Dane Altman wants to come back,

00:39:49.139 --> 00:39:50.800
and Dane Altman's earned the right to come back,

00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:52.760
and we'll be back. The question is what this

00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:54.500
roster looks like next year, because if next

00:39:54.500 --> 00:39:57.260
year's 11 and 19, that's when the realistic questions

00:39:57.260 --> 00:39:58.780
jump in and say, hey, how much longer can we

00:39:58.780 --> 00:40:00.880
do this? If something's gone to where, again,

00:40:00.940 --> 00:40:03.119
whether it's they don't have the Canadian connection.

00:40:03.260 --> 00:40:05.579
You know, he's gotten his guys, Tony Stubblefield,

00:40:05.659 --> 00:40:07.239
who was one of his ace recruiters, came back

00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:09.800
a couple years ago. So he's kind of got his group

00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:12.099
back together. It'll be interesting to see what

00:40:12.099 --> 00:40:14.699
the recruiting, you know, first off, who they

00:40:14.699 --> 00:40:16.739
retain, and then from there, who they can bring

00:40:16.739 --> 00:40:19.519
in, because next year now becomes a huge, huge

00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:20.840
year for Ori. You know, it's kind of like Kelly

00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:22.380
Graves. two years ago they had the down year

00:40:22.380 --> 00:40:24.159
and he gets them right back in the tournament

00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:26.199
the next year that's kind of what dana's going

00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:27.860
to probably need to do to kind of rebuild some

00:40:27.860 --> 00:40:30.119
of the faith in this fan base definitely and

00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:33.420
to me it's going to be what's that aha sort of

00:40:33.420 --> 00:40:36.340
move right because right now we've talked about

00:40:36.340 --> 00:40:38.559
this before i wouldn't be surprised if there

00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:41.340
wasn't a single guy back from this roster now

00:40:41.340 --> 00:40:43.860
i do i think that's likely Probably not. There's

00:40:43.860 --> 00:40:45.860
probably at least one or two guys, at the very

00:40:45.860 --> 00:40:48.139
least, that you'll bring back or will stay. But

00:40:48.139 --> 00:40:50.420
I wouldn't be completely shocked if it was almost

00:40:50.420 --> 00:40:53.159
a complete overhaul of this roster. And so it

00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:54.679
becomes, where are you going to get that piece?

00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:57.599
And obviously, there's the four -star recruits,

00:40:57.599 --> 00:40:59.239
the five -star recruits, there's the transfer

00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:01.199
portal, like you mentioned. Where is that? Because

00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:02.460
it's all about the roster when it comes down

00:41:02.460 --> 00:41:04.440
to it. Dane Altman can be as good of a coach

00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:06.760
as he wants. He can't go out there and do the...

00:41:07.070 --> 00:41:09.449
plays for these players so where is that which

00:41:09.449 --> 00:41:11.170
wouldn't be very good either it was not seven

00:41:11.170 --> 00:41:14.030
year old you don't want that you don't want that

00:41:14.030 --> 00:41:16.389
so where is that going to come from like it doesn't

00:41:16.389 --> 00:41:19.130
necessarily have to be one place like you can't

00:41:19.130 --> 00:41:20.829
just go well this is has to be a transfer or

00:41:20.829 --> 00:41:22.710
this has to be a high school guy it just needs

00:41:22.710 --> 00:41:25.550
to come from somewhere yep yep no doubt um we

00:41:25.550 --> 00:41:27.389
mentioned what kelly graves has got done and

00:41:27.389 --> 00:41:29.510
now after after his down year it looks like he'll

00:41:29.510 --> 00:41:31.070
be back in the institute tournament for a second

00:41:31.070 --> 00:41:34.559
year in a row we think Probably be nice to get

00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:37.360
a win tonight over Purdue to solidify it. I mean,

00:41:37.380 --> 00:41:40.119
I think they're in, but if you finish up with

00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:42.619
a loss to Washington and then a loss to Purdue,

00:41:42.760 --> 00:41:45.699
we'll see. Big Ten tournament starts tonight.

00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:49.159
Women's basketball tournament, and this one is

00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:51.920
at Gainbridge Fieldhouse in Indianapolis. Oregon

00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:55.739
is the finale tonight. The tournament is underway.

00:41:55.960 --> 00:41:59.300
Indiana and Nebraska are playing right now. Wisconsin

00:41:59.300 --> 00:42:01.920
and Illinois start. It is expected to start around

00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:04.880
3, which means everything goes according to time.

00:42:05.079 --> 00:42:09.320
Oregon -Purdue likely starts around... 5 .30

00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:11.019
tonight. Although anytime you're the third game

00:42:11.019 --> 00:42:12.900
of a tournament, just build in 30 minutes and

00:42:12.900 --> 00:42:14.480
say one game is going to go over time or run

00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:17.000
long. So probably closer to 6 o 'clock on Peacock

00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:19.760
tonight. Oregon's the 11th seed. Purdue's the

00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:22.440
14th seed. So like I say, I think for Oregon,

00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:25.340
you don't want to leave the committee with the

00:42:25.340 --> 00:42:28.409
last loss being to the 14. So a big one, I think

00:42:28.409 --> 00:42:30.309
a win tonight certainly locks it. I think they're

00:42:30.309 --> 00:42:33.150
in the tournament either way. But I certainly

00:42:33.150 --> 00:42:36.650
would want to take one more win on there and

00:42:36.650 --> 00:42:39.230
avoid a loss like that. So I think it's an important

00:42:39.230 --> 00:42:41.170
game tonight for Oregon and Purdue. I think so,

00:42:41.210 --> 00:42:42.929
too. I would say that they're in the tournament.

00:42:43.090 --> 00:42:45.329
That's just my sense. When we talked to Kelly

00:42:45.329 --> 00:42:48.219
last week, it was sort of the same. The way he

00:42:48.219 --> 00:42:50.320
put it was that they're probably in, and obviously

00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:51.860
I don't think he wants to just lose every game,

00:42:51.980 --> 00:42:54.599
but that it's more about how much can we help

00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:56.500
ourselves at this point, which is probably fair,

00:42:56.579 --> 00:42:58.199
and that's the mindset I'd like my head coach

00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:01.539
in. So they played Purdue last week, and it was

00:43:01.539 --> 00:43:02.900
a little bit closer of a game than you might

00:43:02.900 --> 00:43:05.559
have liked. It was 71 -65 on the road, so maybe

00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:08.219
now a neutral site. Well, not neutral, exactly.

00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:10.539
Well, kind of neutral. It's technically neutral.

00:43:10.619 --> 00:43:14.179
I know, I know. But it's more neutral than...

00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:16.659
Actually on the Penn State or the Purdue home

00:43:16.659 --> 00:43:18.179
court, right? Yeah, and I doubt, like, Purdue's

00:43:18.179 --> 00:43:19.880
going to have a massive following. It comes out

00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.980
to follow their 14th seed Boilermakers. They

00:43:22.980 --> 00:43:25.340
should win this game. This is one that they should

00:43:25.340 --> 00:43:28.469
win. Not that I put in stock in this, but I'm

00:43:28.469 --> 00:43:31.110
not too worried about them in this game. But

00:43:31.110 --> 00:43:33.349
then they play potentially Maryland next. They

00:43:33.349 --> 00:43:35.570
beat Maryland earlier this season. And then I

00:43:35.570 --> 00:43:36.809
didn't try to get the bracket in front of me.

00:43:36.809 --> 00:43:38.469
Michigan would be after that. And they obviously

00:43:38.469 --> 00:43:40.329
played very competitively with Michigan. I don't

00:43:40.329 --> 00:43:42.190
hate the way that the bracket sets up for them.

00:43:42.250 --> 00:43:44.309
No. I mean, UCLA, which is the undefeated teams

00:43:44.309 --> 00:43:46.309
on the other side, like you say, they've beaten

00:43:46.309 --> 00:43:48.329
Purdue. They've beaten Maryland. They took Michigan

00:43:48.329 --> 00:43:50.510
into overtime at home and really had some shots

00:43:50.510 --> 00:43:51.489
to win that one. Should have won that game probably.

00:43:51.550 --> 00:43:53.869
But even if you win tonight, if you lose to Maryland,

00:43:54.030 --> 00:43:56.969
again, now you've lost a top 20. team that's

00:43:56.969 --> 00:43:59.869
the eighth seed. It doesn't leave a tough loss

00:43:59.869 --> 00:44:01.750
at the end for the committee to look at. So I

00:44:01.750 --> 00:44:04.050
think once you get tonight done, then you're

00:44:04.050 --> 00:44:05.710
kind of playing, you know, like you say, to kind

00:44:05.710 --> 00:44:07.690
of help yourself. And the help yourself part

00:44:07.690 --> 00:44:10.829
is also every time I look at these bracketology

00:44:10.829 --> 00:44:13.130
things, it's got Oregon in the 8 -9 line. That

00:44:13.130 --> 00:44:15.510
sounds great, except that means round two, you're

00:44:15.510 --> 00:44:17.769
probably playing at UConn, at South Carolina,

00:44:17.889 --> 00:44:20.489
at UCLA, or at Texas. That's not what you want.

00:44:20.610 --> 00:44:22.289
So if you could get yourself up to even like

00:44:22.289 --> 00:44:24.590
a sixth seed, where now you're playing at the

00:44:24.590 --> 00:44:26.400
number three seed. instead of one of the ones.

00:44:26.780 --> 00:44:28.400
So if you make a nice little run here, yeah,

00:44:28.460 --> 00:44:30.320
I mean, get two or three wins in this tournament.

00:44:30.380 --> 00:44:32.440
Even if you get knocked out in the semis, maybe

00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:34.219
you moved yourself up to the sixth line and really

00:44:34.219 --> 00:44:36.019
helped yourself in what that tournament would

00:44:36.019 --> 00:44:38.659
look like. So like you say, Purdue tonight, the

00:44:38.659 --> 00:44:41.239
winner of that takes on Maryland. Winner of that

00:44:41.239 --> 00:44:44.559
takes on Michigan. And then... You would not

00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:47.199
have to face UCLA. UCLA is in the top half of

00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:49.159
the bracket, so they wouldn't face UCLA until

00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:52.599
the championship game, which is Sunday. And these

00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:56.059
brackets are so wild these days. I was so accustomed

00:44:56.059 --> 00:44:58.260
to the old Pac -12. It was just simple and easy.

00:44:58.420 --> 00:45:00.920
I mean, there were four first -round buys. Now

00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:02.380
it's like every tournament I look at, I'm like,

00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:04.340
God, there's double buys, triple buys. We got

00:45:04.340 --> 00:45:07.179
three games tonight, five games tomorrow, four

00:45:07.179 --> 00:45:09.079
games the day after that. It's like the Pac -12

00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:11.769
just used to be. Four games a day. It was nice

00:45:11.769 --> 00:45:13.269
and simple. It was easy. You know what you're

00:45:13.269 --> 00:45:16.230
doing. And nowadays, it's just hard to figure

00:45:16.230 --> 00:45:17.789
out. But Oregon does not get a bye. One of the

00:45:17.789 --> 00:45:20.389
six teams that did not, actually the last team

00:45:20.389 --> 00:45:23.670
to not get a bye as the 11th seed. So they will

00:45:23.670 --> 00:45:26.409
have to win five games. They would have to win

00:45:26.409 --> 00:45:28.369
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday

00:45:28.369 --> 00:45:32.119
to get it done. But like I say. Give me three

00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:33.579
of them, and I think you probably moved yourself

00:45:33.579 --> 00:45:35.840
up in the bracket and put yourself in a better

00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:38.380
spot. I think so, too. And I've been conditioned

00:45:38.380 --> 00:45:41.280
enough now with women's basketball that whenever

00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:44.260
I see the 8 -9, I'm like, uh -oh. Yeah, yeah.

00:45:44.340 --> 00:45:46.159
So it's definitely not the best seed to beat.

00:45:46.219 --> 00:45:47.699
It's so weird how that works that way. You almost

00:45:47.699 --> 00:45:49.699
would rather be a 10, right? I'd rather be a

00:45:49.699 --> 00:45:53.860
13. I'd rather have to go beat a 4 and a 5 rather

00:45:53.860 --> 00:45:56.599
than having to be at UConn. Because, again, it's

00:45:56.599 --> 00:45:58.539
not you're just facing the one seed. You're facing

00:45:58.539 --> 00:46:00.820
them on their home court in front of what's probably

00:46:00.820 --> 00:46:02.780
going to be a sellout crowd. So that's where,

00:46:02.900 --> 00:46:04.840
and we did this the other day with Eric Skopel,

00:46:04.860 --> 00:46:07.019
kind of went, okay, projecting a little bit,

00:46:07.099 --> 00:46:10.179
but if Oregon, say they win two games or they

00:46:10.179 --> 00:46:12.329
win the first game and then they get... Again,

00:46:12.329 --> 00:46:14.909
against Maryland, they lose. Then at that point,

00:46:15.010 --> 00:46:16.929
maybe you're the 8 -9. If they can win that first

00:46:16.929 --> 00:46:19.329
one and then they lose to the number one seed,

00:46:19.449 --> 00:46:21.690
it's exactly where you were last year, except

00:46:21.690 --> 00:46:23.150
for the fact that last year's team was kind of

00:46:23.150 --> 00:46:25.170
the pinnacle of whatever that team was. And then

00:46:25.170 --> 00:46:27.550
this year, it seems like, okay, the main parts

00:46:27.550 --> 00:46:29.369
of your team are these sophomores. You've got

00:46:29.369 --> 00:46:31.869
Ahisa Tute, you've got Katie Fiso. And can you

00:46:31.869 --> 00:46:35.030
build on the end of this season to project yourself

00:46:35.030 --> 00:46:37.110
or put yourself in a good position for next season?

00:46:37.230 --> 00:46:39.230
So I think, to me, that's what it's about. I'd

00:46:39.230 --> 00:46:40.730
love to see them get a little bit higher than

00:46:40.730 --> 00:46:42.389
that 8 -9. so you don't end up in that situation.

00:46:42.630 --> 00:46:44.570
But I do think that, unfortunately, if they end

00:46:44.570 --> 00:46:46.570
up in that 8 -9, I think they have a good shot

00:46:46.570 --> 00:46:48.789
against that 8 seed, and there's not a lot of

00:46:48.789 --> 00:46:50.670
teams out there in that level that I think, okay,

00:46:50.710 --> 00:46:51.550
they're not going to be able to compete with

00:46:51.550 --> 00:46:53.550
Oregon. But they've had a little bit more trouble

00:46:53.550 --> 00:46:55.070
with the teams that are going to be those No.

00:46:55.190 --> 00:46:57.670
1, the No. 2 seed, the No. 3 seed, the No. 4

00:46:57.670 --> 00:47:00.309
seed. So it would be a big deal for them if they

00:47:00.309 --> 00:47:02.630
were able to win a game against one of those

00:47:02.630 --> 00:47:05.130
teams, in my opinion. Yeah, definitely. So, again,

00:47:05.170 --> 00:47:08.449
a reminder, if it says 5 -30, you probably can

00:47:08.449 --> 00:47:10.409
get home at 6 and probably still be around for—

00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:12.219
tip off. You do have to have Peacock, though,

00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:13.739
which I don't have, and which I learned last

00:47:13.739 --> 00:47:15.340
night when I tried to watch the Oregon -Illinois

00:47:15.340 --> 00:47:18.000
game that I don't have Peacock. So I might have

00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:20.599
to go find a local establishment that has TVs

00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:23.500
that I can watch and see that. Because, you know,

00:47:23.539 --> 00:47:24.960
I'm back in tomorrow, Justin, and we have to

00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:27.340
have some expert analysis on the Danny and Justin

00:47:27.340 --> 00:47:29.360
show. We can't just scoreboard watch and try

00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:30.860
to pretend like we watch games. We've got to

00:47:30.860 --> 00:47:34.179
really watch games. And tomorrow... As I said,

00:47:34.239 --> 00:47:36.500
we are going to have a Tracktown Day. We are

00:47:36.500 --> 00:47:39.559
going to be out at the offices of Tracktown USA,

00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:43.280
which I assumed was at Hayward Field, and I just

00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:45.179
was informed by the general is actually over

00:47:45.179 --> 00:47:48.940
at Oakway Center. So we are going to be on remote

00:47:48.940 --> 00:47:51.239
tomorrow, and you and I are going to be over

00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:54.739
there interviewing a few athletes and a couple

00:47:54.739 --> 00:47:58.699
of bigwigs at Tracktown talking about the upcoming

00:47:58.699 --> 00:48:00.539
schedule for what track and field is going to

00:48:00.539 --> 00:48:04.170
look like. this summer out there. So we get to

00:48:04.170 --> 00:48:07.289
break out of the office. I think Blaze is going

00:48:07.289 --> 00:48:08.889
to be holding down the fort or he'll be there

00:48:08.889 --> 00:48:12.099
with us. I think so. I think he'll be here. Okay,

00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:14.860
well, we're going to be out tomorrow. It's going

00:48:14.860 --> 00:48:17.079
to be all tracks. So we will obviously recap

00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:19.239
the Oregon women's game and Oregon softball,

00:48:19.340 --> 00:48:21.860
Oregon -Oregon State softball in the first segment,

00:48:21.860 --> 00:48:23.679
but then we will get into a lot of track tomorrow,

00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:26.179
and then I'll be back here on Friday. As again,

00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:29.380
Danny is, if you're wanting to hear Danny's voice,

00:48:29.420 --> 00:48:31.619
if you miss him and you miss that voice, you

00:48:31.619 --> 00:48:35.099
can go to osa .org and tune in to some of the

00:48:35.099 --> 00:48:38.349
two -way basketball tournament. out at Pendleton

00:48:38.349 --> 00:48:40.469
starting tomorrow. So Danny will be there, so

00:48:40.469 --> 00:48:44.250
I will be coughing and filling in Wednesday,

00:48:44.389 --> 00:48:46.389
Thursday, Friday this week, Wednesday, Friday

00:48:46.389 --> 00:48:48.630
next week. Appreciate you having me here. Yeah,

00:48:48.690 --> 00:48:51.369
fun. It was fun. It always is, and we'll have

00:48:51.369 --> 00:48:53.650
you back tomorrow, and we'll dive into some track.

00:48:54.170 --> 00:48:56.730
Sounds good. And big thanks again to Josh Wilcox

00:48:56.730 --> 00:48:58.309
for joining us. It was great to catch up with

00:48:58.309 --> 00:49:01.210
him, and excited to hear about what he's got

00:49:01.210 --> 00:49:03.489
going on out of Harrisburg. Go Eagles, as he

00:49:03.489 --> 00:49:05.710
said, and appreciate him coming on and giving

00:49:05.710 --> 00:49:08.400
us the update on that one there. All right. Well,

00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:10.460
we appreciate you tuning in. Like I say, join

00:49:10.460 --> 00:49:12.500
us tomorrow. We will be track heavy tomorrow.

00:49:12.699 --> 00:49:15.179
And then Friday we will be bet heavy with big

00:49:15.179 --> 00:49:16.820
bets. This is Steve Bims. I'm filling in for

00:49:16.820 --> 00:49:18.840
Danny. Listen to the Danny and Justin show on

00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:22.079
Fox Sports, Eugene and Fox Sports, Newport.