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this show are recorded strap in and be prepared

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room for error is much slimmer in basketball

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one player and it changes your entire team it's

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not like that in football it's just not it's

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not interesting guests kelly graves mike parker

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coach mark waskowski noah eagle melissa lombardi

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kenyon barnard jonathan stewart sharp opinions

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dana altman probably earned a pass for a down

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year after almost 20 years of what he's done

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for Oregon basketball. And some smiles. Guys,

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I was stuck in a car wash. Sounds like an R.

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Kelly song. It's not an R. Kelly song. It's Danny

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Havel. I can't remember, and I've been doing

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this for longer than you've been alive. which

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is really horrible that I have to say that, but

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it's the truth. Justin Grossweiner. It's like

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the saying in Alaska that you don't have to be

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faster than the bear. You just have to be faster

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than your friend. Danny and Justin starts now

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on Fox Sports Eugene and Fox Sports Newport.

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Sitting in for Danny today, it's Goose, Steve

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Mims. Welcome in to the Danny and Justin show.

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This is Steve Mims filling in for Danny. who

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is on an East Coast trip and will be back in

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tomorrow. But we had Justin and Dom there yesterday.

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And, Justin, thanks for finding the day for me

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to come in and fill in. I appreciate it. It's

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always a pleasure, Steve. Well, that's good to

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hear. It's always a pleasure. It's good to hear.

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Blaze is with us here spinning the discs, as

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they like to say, and is the magic behind the

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moment. So thanks, everybody, for tuning in.

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And we are going to... Have a guest today that

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will be Travis Demers. Travis, who is the voice

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of your Portland Trail Blazers. You can hear

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here on Fox Sports Eugene and Fox Sports Newport.

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Yes. Some things are on one channel, but not

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the other. I'm like, the Blazers are on both,

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right? I don't have my shirt on today. I can't

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just point at my shirt. I don't think they're

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on then. Anyway, I'm just going to say, Travis

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Demers will be on with us, and he will be talking

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Blazer basketball as the Blazers come out of

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the break, and they will be playing tomorrow

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night. And so we'll catch up on both the All

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-Star weekend when Damian Millard had the kind

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of dramatic three -point victory and then Denny

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Avdia played. I think Klingin and Hanson Young

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were playing in the Rising Stars game. And we

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will look forward to the final 30 or so games,

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which... It's not a tank season for the Blazers.

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We are actually going to be paying attention

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because so many teams are tanking that even if

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the Blazers wanted to tank, they couldn't tank

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enough to tank. So then you can't try to tank.

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And so they're almost certainly going to be in

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a play -in game, which will give Travis a little

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bit of extra work. So we will get into that with

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Travis Demers in section number two. All right,

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let's start off with another dud at Matthew Knight

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Arena. You were there last night, Justin, the

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Oregon Ducks. Men's basketball scored 17 points

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in the first half, and it didn't get a whole

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lot better as they lost 61 -44 to Minnesota.

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This is not a Big Ten power, Minnesota. This

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is a Minnesota that improved to 5 -10 after that

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win. It's also a Minnesota team that plays six

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players and had five guys play at least 33 minutes

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last night. For Oregon, it was just really ugly.

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Like I say, from the field, they were 20 of 53.

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Two of 20 on three -pointers, which when the

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team's playing a matchup zone against you, seems

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like maybe you don't want to put up 23 -pointers

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if you're only making two of them. But Oregon

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kept trying, kept shooting threes, missed them.

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Dane Altman was frustrated afterwards. I was

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listening to his press conference where he was

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talking about how they just were standing up,

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not doing anything against that defense. There's

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been a lot of... Rock bottom moments for this

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men's basketball team this year. You were there

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last night, so you might be able to speak to

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it more than me watching it on TV. Me watching

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it on TV, at least that first half for me was

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sort of the point where I said, man, maybe this

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is rock bottom. It certainly feels like that

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Penn State game was an inevitable win. And then

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after that, I think that it's fair to say that

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this is rock bottom. Even just in terms of the

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atmosphere. going with the game what is it like

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at matthew arena man it is like baron i'm telling

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you it just feels weird because i could basically

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almost hear uh like i'm not like all the way

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up on the top or anything like that but pretty

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far up there and i could basically hear what

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was going on on the court yeah i could hear dane

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altman yelling at waylon every single time he

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turned it over it was rough honestly the atmosphere

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wasn't very good obviously the Dean Ullman talked

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in that press conference as well about the energy

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of the team. It didn't give the crowd anything

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to get excited about. There was one amazing dunk

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in the second half by Dedrick Lindsey, which—

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Literally made me exclaim out of surprise. But

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literally other than that, there was about a

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couple moments there where I think Nate Biddle

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got a dunk right afterwards or something like

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that. So there was about 30 seconds where there

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was some excitement. But other than that, it

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was a hard basketball game to watch. And I think

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it's hard to convince your fans to come in and

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watch that type of game. And there were some

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diehards. The diehards were there. There were

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definitely some Duck fans that were there. They

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were ready to cheer on their team. And they were

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all in still, even despite what's going on. Man,

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it just feels wrong being there this late in

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the season with no juice at all. No, I agree.

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And was it a 7 .30 tip last night? 7 .30 tip.

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So you're talking Tuesday night, 7 .30 against

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a mediocre Minnesota team. Right. And then we've

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got to get into the usual terrible parking. Tickets

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cost money. There's an issue there that, again,

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when you're winning, fans will show up. But Oregon

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has to win at this point. You're not going to

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be one of these places like Kansas and them who

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are just going to draw based on the name of the

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team. And we've seen, and I don't even know what

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the announced crowd was last night, but I'm guessing.

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I talked to somebody who went to the Penn State

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game. They told me there was probably 5 ,000

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people there, but half of them were there for

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Red Panda. Did it feel like there were 4 ,000

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people there last night? Intern Blaze, you were

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also there last night. What do you think? Were

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there 5 ,000 people there? I'm not sure if there

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were. There were no Minnesota fans, is the thing?

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Like two of them. They were just sitting behind

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the bench. Okay. Even the Michigan State game

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had a lot of Michigan State fans. Michigan did,

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Purdue last year. That's one of the things is

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it's like as they've lost these games, you've

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had like the opposing team has been louder at

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the end. But it sounds like maybe if the two

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Minnesota old people behind the bench were talking,

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it was so quiet that even you up high could have

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maybe heard them talking as well. No, but I don't

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even think there was that, to be honest with

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you. It just felt like there were a bunch of

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Duck fans. There were a few Minnesota. I'm sure

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like, you know. It's a hard sell right now. Look,

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it's a hard sell. And quite honestly, Oregon

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hasn't been great at marketing basketball, even

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when they're good. Part of that is Dane Altman.

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He's never been a promoter. That's not who he

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is. Hey, that's who you hired. You hired a guy

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who's a great X's and O's coach and taking you

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to Final Four and NCAA tournaments. But Oregon's

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had issues in terms of being able to fill Matthew

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Knight Arena, even in good times. I can't imagine

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what, you know, the worst job in the town right

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now might be the marketing director trying to

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fill. They got Red Panda. That was a great move

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to get some. It was. Next Wednesday is Wisconsin,

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which will probably be a 15 -point favorite over

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Oregon. And that's an 8 o 'clock tip. You know

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what? I actually might go to that one. Really?

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Yeah, honestly, just to go see Wisconsin. You

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are all in, man. I mean. Well, that's right.

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You're a Wisconsin guy. Yeah, I'm a Wisconsin

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guy. Absolutely. You should go to that. I absolutely

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should. And you should be sitting behind the

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bench with the old people wearing the Wisconsin

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shirts. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going

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to do that. T .K. Simpkins last night, 0 for

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10 from the field. 0 for 5 from threes. Like

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I say, the Ducks as a whole, 2 for 20 on threes

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in the first half. Two free throws. Two free

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throws. But as we talked about, and Dana pointed

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out, you can't really complain about two free

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throws when you're sitting around just passing

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the ball around a matchup zone the whole time.

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And they got inside a little bit to Biddle and

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Evans. But for the most part, Dana's lines was,

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you know, we were just standing straight up.

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We weren't moving. We weren't trying to do anything.

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Minnesota is not going to foul you if you just

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pass the ball around the perimeter. And like

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I say, when they got it into Biddle and Evans,

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those are more kind of guys who can kind of be

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creative around the hoop than anybody who's going

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to kind of bully over and draw a bunch of fouls.

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So I listened to Danny. He didn't mention anything

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about that. It certainly wasn't some of these

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coach rants we've seen about free throws. And,

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I mean, Minnesota shot 8 of 10. So, I guess congrats

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to the refs for just banging on to the whistles

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and deciding that they didn't need to do any

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of that. What I heard Dana say was he was most

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frustrated with the rebounds. They had 28. Minnesota

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had 38. Listening to his postgame, he seemed

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to think that they had the edge on the boards

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going in, particularly at home where a lot of

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times rebounding is an effort thing and you tend

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to show better effort at home. That sounded like

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the thing he was most angry about was the fact

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they got out rebounded by 10. But, again, when

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you score 17 – I mean, it's just hard to score

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17 points in a half. It's not like this was –

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Oh, it felt like it, too. It's not like this

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was old -school pre -shot clock where teams were

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just hanging on to the ball. I thought the end

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of the first half, there was when Simpkins goes

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down and basically misses a bunny, and then Minnesota

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comes down, and their guy hit the side of the

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backboard. And I thought that's just the perfect

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way to sum up this half because it was that bad.

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So now Oregon falls to in -conference play, just

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the two wins. So they're 2 -13 in Big Ten play,

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which is incredible to say. And again, everybody

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goes through ups and downs. We just haven't seen

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it before with this team, 9 -17 overall. I was

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looking at this last night. They were showing,

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and it's been probably shown on every Duck game

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on national TV for the last eight years, is the

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stat that most consecutive winning seasons by

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a coach. And it's Bill Self with like 31. It's

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Tom Izzo with, like, 28, and it's Dana with,

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like, 26. And that's over. That's not happening.

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So that one's going away. I was also looking.

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They were showing Dana. Dana's got, coming into

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this year, he had 780 career wins. I looked it

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up. He's never lost. He's never not won 20 games

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at Oregon. Now, some of those years were some

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funky CBI -type things where they picked off

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a couple extra wins there. But even that first

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year when he rebuilt everything, he got to 20.

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So you come into this year thinking 780 wins.

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All I need is 20 to get to 800. I've done it

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15 years in a row at this place. And the one

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year that he's not going to get there is the

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year that would have gotten him to 800, and he's

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going to have to wait until 800 for next year.

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Now, as I talk to next year. And I know there

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are people out there sitting there thinking,

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is Oregon going to bring Dan Altman back to get

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that 800th win next year? I think that's going

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to become a discussion. I've heard it bubbling

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already. Here's what I'm going to tell you. And

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as somebody who covered Dan Altman for eight

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years, covered some of his best years. Dana Altman

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has earned every right to coach this basketball

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team. And one thing I always hear from people

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is like, well, it's been kind of going downhill

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for the last couple of years. It hasn't. You're

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not looking at the past if you're saying that.

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They went to the NCAA tournament each of the

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last two years and got to the second round each

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of the last two years. Lost to Arizona last year,

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lost to Creighton the year before. Neutral site

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losses. Dana Altman always gets to the second

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round. What he's done certainly deserves to come

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back. I don't think there's any question there.

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My question is, are they going to ask him in

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some way to modernize his, recruiting because

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he hasn't brought in a general manager, hasn't

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brought in sort of like a recruiting director

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type thing. He's brought back his staff features

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a lot of people who've been very loyal to him,

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which is great. Coaches like Josh Jamison, Tony

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Stubblefield, Brian Fish, Yasir Roseman, who've

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all been at Oregon, went somewhere else, were

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let go at the other place, either as the head

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coach or the assistant, and came back. And Dana's

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brought them all back. So he's got a bench full

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of people. And then you add in Mike Menega and

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Kevin McKenna, who've been with him forever.

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He's got a bench full of really loyal guys. But

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we've seen now the last two years the recruiting

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has fallen off a cliff. Jamari Phillips was the

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only freshman they brought in two years ago,

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and this year the only guy they brought in is

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redshirting and can't even get on the court and

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isn't even going to play this year. So that's

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a problem to where you can bring in transfers.

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That's great. But when you're freshman classes,

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the last freshman class that hit for them was

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the Shellstad K .J. Evans. No, Biddle was the

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year before that. was K .J. Evans and Shelstead,

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and that was a five -star, four -star. Biddle

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was here before that. Biddle was a five -star.

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But an Oregon guy, though. Yeah, well, senior

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year, he went to that prolific prep down there.

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So anyway, he's getting those guys. The last

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two, it's falling off a cliff. And this year,

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and Dana's even said, you know, hey, I screwed

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up. I should have gotten some more depth. You

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know, I didn't realize, you know. Because you

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come into a season with Dana Altman and three

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returning players. who are one of the best centers

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in the country in Biddle, a three -year starting

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point guard in Jackson -Shellstead, and a former

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five -star K .J. Evans who had been on a bit

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of a rise. You sit there and think, man, we start

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with those three. Now, if we could bring in a

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freshman or two, maybe a couple of transfers,

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and maybe a couple guys who were backups last

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year's taken on, suddenly this should be a team.

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That should be the makings of a top 25 team that's

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8, 10 people deep. This team is... Four deep,

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five deep. I talked to a coach. I know he's listening.

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A friend of mine who's a longtime former high

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school and college coach in the area. I just

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had lunch with him today and was talking. And

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he said, man, they're still playing really hard.

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They're just not talented. He said, this team

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isn't talented enough to compete against the

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teams they're playing. And this is the first

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time with a Dane Altman team that we've had that.

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And again, going back to the first year, he had

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some guys that he brought in, some that were

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holdovers. It was a pretty talented team. God,

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they had a year when. Three guys get suspended,

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and he had to kind of throw together a roster,

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and he gets Dylan Brooks and Casey Benson out

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of that. I mean, he's always been able to put

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together a full roster, and this is the first

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time, again, as somebody who covered Dana Altman

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for eight years, has watched his whole 15 years,

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this is the first time where I turn it on, and

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they just look like they're drawn dead out there.

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I mean, they just look like a team that is playing

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hard and probably looking at each other like,

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man, we are just not good enough to beat these

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teams, and I'd see Dana. And again, watching

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him at the games I've been at, covering for AP

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and the games on TV, and he just looks like he's,

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again, I've never seen him as frustrated on the

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sideline just acting like, I can't believe that

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we can't make some simple plays, some basic plays,

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can't get on a run, basically can't beat a Minnesota

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team that's not very good and is only six deep.

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So that's my Dana Altman thought. I want to hear

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yours, but my thought is just sort of he comes

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back. I do think there will be some questions

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at the end of the year when he meets with Rob

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Mullins to discuss the future that says, hey,

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is there maybe a way we need to modernize? Whether

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that's shake up the staff or add some people

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in personnel because we've got to find a way

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to recruit a little bit more. Well, the body

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language is awful. That ain't good. I mean, talking

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about every coach, assistant coaches, Dana is

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just throwing his hands up. I mean, he yells

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at Waylon. The entire game. And Waylon basically

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doesn't even look at him at this point. We were

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talking about this. I find it hard to believe

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that almost any of these players will be back

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next year. It's an interesting one to go through.

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You're right. I mean, Biddle has to go. KJ Evans,

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I think, will have some problems. I think last

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year he probably was on the fence of going. He

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maybe comes back. He maybe goes. Shelstad, he

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also was kind of on the fence towards going.

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Does he do that? Evans and Shelstad may also

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have some pretty big money opportunities to transfer.

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I mean, if there's a team that's kind of ready

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-made to compete, just loses its point guard

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this year, and there's a lot of good point guards

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going in the draft this year, there's a lot of

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teams that are going to be losing their point

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guard. Somebody may come in and make Jackson

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Shelstad an offer and say, hey, instead of sticking

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with some rebuilding team there. You know, what

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are you going to do with that? And like you say,

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I mean, Dwayne Landon, it would be hard to see

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him after, you know, kind of what this year's

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been like. You know, so then you start Jamari

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Phillips, the guy who was suspended or, you know,

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suspended a game for things. Yeah, it's, you

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know, Sean Stewart, maybe the kind of guy who

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would come back and he's already transferred

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a few times. Devin Pryor hasn't really gone his

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way, which is another important thing as I talk

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about, because next year, if Oregon goes 4 -16

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in the Big Ten, I think Dane Altman, there's

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no question he's coming back. The question would

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be if that happens a second year in a row, then

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they're trouble. So now your question is how

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do you get next year's roster to be a lot better?

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I don't know that the way they're building these

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rosters now with one freshman who's not really

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ready to play and trying to do a bunch of transfers,

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if like you talk about it, somehow they have

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two or three guys coming back and you've got

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to rebuild all around that. I don't know that

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with no GM and sort of the way that they're building

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teams right now, you can bring in enough players

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to be competitive enough next year to put you

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back in that top half and not have people starting

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to wonder, hmm, is this a trend now of two years

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in a row? Well, and the way that you're talking

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about building rosters is like that's almost

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like even the way that's not the crazy way that

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exists now. Like there's teams that are going

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to like. The NBA players. Amari Harper. I think

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it was that guy's name. Amari Harper, I think

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it's his name. Bailey. Amari Bailey. Yeah, yeah.

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Who, you know, played NBA. I mean, so that's

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the extreme, obviously. You don't have to do

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that. The concern is this. You do have a freshman

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class next year. That's a decent player in Taj

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Ariza that I think people have some excitement

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about. And then Kendra Harrison, who's a football

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player. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Sorry.

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He's going to be playing football until January.

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Dana Altman's not going to put him in the lineup

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on January 23rd with one practice. Oregon fans

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learned this with Eric Armstead. And I covered

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the Eric Armstead here. Eric Armstead played

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basketball. I actually didn't even know he played

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basketball. You know why? Because he played football

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up until January every year. And then when he

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showed up and the media would ask Dana, they'd

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say, hey, Armstead, you know, is there any chance?

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And Dana's line was always. You know, we've been

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doing this since like September, October. He

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comes in here in January. You know, we love having

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him and he's been great. But there's a reason

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that we start practicing in September, October.

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There's no way that Kendra Harrison next year

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is going to, as a true freshman, come in and

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contribute to a basketball team unless. The football

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team is so bad that they missed the playoff,

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and they're done at the Sun Bowl. Let's not speak

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that into existence. The Sun Bowl on December

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24th. Then Kendra Harrison may help the team

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next year. But I don't want to hear Kendra Harrison.

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I don't want to hear talk about him helping the

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team if he doesn't arrive until then. He's not

00:18:00.450 --> 00:18:02.289
going to be a 25 -point big -game scorer or anything

00:18:02.289 --> 00:18:06.690
like that. Certainly a lot to rebuild, though,

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around whatever this is going to be going into

00:18:09.890 --> 00:18:11.089
this offseason. And Ariza's a great piece. I'm

00:18:11.089 --> 00:18:14.039
just curious why. There's no other recruits in

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this class right now. I mean, Dana's put together

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classes that had Lou King and Bol Bol, Shelstad

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and K .J. Evans. I mean, go back through. There

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are five -star, four -stars that were lining

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up. I don't know. And maybe it's an NIL thing,

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and they're underfunded. I don't know that part.

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So maybe that's, you know, somebody told me they

00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:32.319
estimated this year's team was in the 6 to 7

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million. Maybe in the Big Ten you've got to be

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10 to 12 to get there. I don't know. All I know

00:18:37.339 --> 00:18:39.099
is that right now the way they're building this

00:18:39.099 --> 00:18:42.549
roster has come up, you know, again. with a team

00:18:42.549 --> 00:18:47.049
this year that is just not very good. And you're

00:18:47.049 --> 00:18:48.650
right with the fear that next year there may

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be some attrition on this team, which there is

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on every team every year. And if they're not

00:18:52.690 --> 00:18:54.690
able to get up and build this thing right away,

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I just don't think you want to go through another

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year like this. And like I say, the fans are

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going to have a hard time. coming out to support

00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:03.599
a team when if it's, if it's another year like

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this, and then that's when the questions of the

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future. So you think that it's pretty safe that

00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:09.039
he's going to come back next year? I would say

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that he absolutely has earned the right to come

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back. Now, if they say, Hey, we'd like you to

00:19:13.539 --> 00:19:15.359
make some changes. And he says, no, I'm going

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to do things my way. We've seen in the past where

00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:20.640
coaches take a, you know, then they say, well,

00:19:20.819 --> 00:19:22.779
you know, we want you back, but here's what you

00:19:22.779 --> 00:19:24.559
got to do this. And, you know, maybe, hey, we

00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:27.460
want you to pay for it. Bring in a general manager.

00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:29.500
Hey, we'd like you to maybe shake up your staff,

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bring in a little bit somebody fresh who's a

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bit more of a recruiter right now. And if he

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were to say no, then I think those discussions

00:19:35.740 --> 00:19:37.960
could get interesting. But I think the discussion

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starts with, hey, we want you to come back. You

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know, you tell us what you need, and we'll tell

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you kind of what we think we can do to help you.

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And as long as those things kind of are congruent

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and work similar, I think he's back. I think

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the only way it wouldn't be is if he said, hey,

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I want to keep doing things with my same people.

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You know, we saw it with Mark Helfrich, quite

00:19:56.150 --> 00:19:57.950
honestly, to where he was great and then won

00:19:57.950 --> 00:19:59.529
four and eight season. And Rob Mullins looked

00:19:59.529 --> 00:20:01.779
and said, hey, this is on a downhill. Football,

00:20:01.900 --> 00:20:03.799
we can't afford another year or two of this.

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And he got rid of them, I thought, a year sooner

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than he should have. Turned out Rob knew what

00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:08.460
he was doing. They got the thing going right

00:20:08.460 --> 00:20:10.579
back up. I don't think if you're Rob Mullins,

00:20:10.660 --> 00:20:13.559
you can risk another 2 -18 season. And again,

00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:15.500
looking at Dana's history, there's nothing in

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telling you that that would be what happens.

00:20:17.579 --> 00:20:21.079
But I think that if this roster isn't rebuilt

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in a Big Ten now, this isn't the Pac -10 anymore.

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You don't have a down ASU, a down Washington

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State. When your schedule, look, first off, if

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you're not in beating Minnesota, What are you

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going to do when Illinois, Purdue, Indiana, Michigan

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State, Michigan, and the rest of those come around?

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Yeah, it's not going to be easy in that conference.

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No, and it's going to be, like I say, in the

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Pac -12, you worry about Arizona, and it felt

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like normally UCLA was maybe kind of there, and

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Dana could put together some things, and it was

00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:50.980
like, hey, if we put together a resemblance of

00:20:50.980 --> 00:20:53.019
a decent roster, we're kind of back at least

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in the mix for this thing. Right now, if you

00:20:55.220 --> 00:20:57.059
put together a decent roster in the Big Ten,

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you're in the mix for 12th, 13th place. I guess

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the scary thing right now is thinking about where

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this is going to come from. Like, where are these

00:21:05.079 --> 00:21:06.799
players going to come from? I think even if you

00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:09.740
say, hey, you want Dane Altman back? Like who's

00:21:09.740 --> 00:21:12.579
going to be your number one priority score next

00:21:12.579 --> 00:21:15.140
year? Well, there's your NIL budget too. Exactly.

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You've got to have the budget to go out and do

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it. And also I was telling you before this, and

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we're going to break in a minute, but I was listening

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to a college basketball expert who made a good

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point that said, hey, if you're thinking at the

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end of the year. You're going to wait and see

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who comes back or not and then start recruiting

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your transfer portal. Said you're toast because

00:21:31.210 --> 00:21:33.470
the agents are already calling the teams and

00:21:33.470 --> 00:21:34.950
saying, hey, my guy's going to the portal. The

00:21:34.950 --> 00:21:36.349
guys who are going to the portal, most of them

00:21:36.349 --> 00:21:38.410
probably know by mid -February, there's only

00:21:38.410 --> 00:21:40.430
a month left, and those agents are getting the

00:21:40.430 --> 00:21:43.650
jump on it and calling. And so if they're calling

00:21:43.650 --> 00:21:45.490
general managers and Oregon doesn't have one

00:21:45.490 --> 00:21:47.210
and they're calling all these others, even if

00:21:47.210 --> 00:21:49.450
Oregon brings in a general manager on April 1st,

00:21:49.450 --> 00:21:51.670
a lot of those guys may be gone in terms of putting

00:21:51.670 --> 00:21:54.339
together for one year. It's going to be an interesting

00:21:54.339 --> 00:21:56.119
conversation. It's not one that's going to go

00:21:56.119 --> 00:21:57.799
away. Like I say, it's going to be a conversation

00:21:57.799 --> 00:22:01.000
that goes through a couple more weeks and, quite

00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:03.420
honestly, most likely a few more losses. You

00:22:03.420 --> 00:22:05.420
know, they got at USC coming up this weekend.

00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:08.039
Like I say, Wisconsin at home next week. There

00:22:08.039 --> 00:22:09.859
is a Northwestern game on the schedule, but they

00:22:09.859 --> 00:22:12.019
still got Washington, who they lost two up there.

00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:15.519
So we'll see. But certainly a rough night last

00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:18.009
night for the Ducks. All right, when we come

00:22:18.009 --> 00:22:20.589
back, we are going to have Travis Demers joining

00:22:20.589 --> 00:22:23.890
us. He is the voice of your Portland Trailblazers.

00:22:23.930 --> 00:22:26.289
We will recap the Blazers' success at the All

00:22:26.289 --> 00:22:28.809
-Star Game. Look ahead to, I'd say, the second

00:22:28.809 --> 00:22:30.730
half of the season, but we're way past the half

00:22:30.730 --> 00:22:32.750
point of the season, and see what to look for

00:22:32.750 --> 00:22:34.750
for these last 30 games or so. This is Steve

00:22:34.750 --> 00:22:36.230
Mims. I'm filling in for Danny. You're listening

00:22:36.230 --> 00:22:38.410
to The Danny and Justin Show on Fox Sports Eugene

00:22:38.410 --> 00:22:43.970
and Fox Sports Newport. Steve Mims filling in

00:22:43.970 --> 00:22:49.180
for... Danny, and we are welcoming now our guest

00:22:49.180 --> 00:22:54.440
who is in a all -star break, taking a couple

00:22:54.440 --> 00:22:57.000
days off before the Blazers come back here on

00:22:57.000 --> 00:23:00.279
Friday night. And we'll get the NBA schedule

00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:03.740
going back in an exciting final 30 games of the

00:23:03.740 --> 00:23:05.460
season. Could be coming up as the Blazers chase

00:23:05.460 --> 00:23:07.859
a play -in, play -off spot. But for the first

00:23:07.859 --> 00:23:09.539
time in a couple years, there is a lot on the

00:23:09.539 --> 00:23:11.759
line heading in. And joined now by Travis Demers.

00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:14.640
Travis, how are we today? Good. What's going

00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:17.119
on, guys? How are you? We're doing well. You've

00:23:17.119 --> 00:23:19.839
just been laying on the couch for a week, not

00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:23.880
doing much? Not quite. I mean, I've had my kids

00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:27.900
for most of the time, you know, doing a little

00:23:27.900 --> 00:23:29.839
prep here and there, cleaning my house, got my

00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:33.759
shower and bathroom all sparkly. Wow. You know,

00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:36.500
all that fun stuff. I like it. Well, now it's

00:23:36.500 --> 00:23:40.079
back to work tomorrow night. When we get the

00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:42.319
Blazers are back home, it's against – Friday

00:23:42.319 --> 00:23:45.140
night. Friday night. I'm sorry. Hey, don't end

00:23:45.140 --> 00:23:49.700
my breakthrough. That is my bad. It's the Denver

00:23:49.700 --> 00:23:52.289
Nuggets who come to town, right? Yes, sir. All

00:23:52.289 --> 00:23:53.829
right. Friday night, 7 o 'clock. You can hear

00:23:53.829 --> 00:23:56.950
it here on Fox Sports, Eugene. Hey, I would just

00:23:56.950 --> 00:24:00.829
mention Blazers are 27 -29. The last few years,

00:24:00.849 --> 00:24:02.470
there have been times where people thought, oh,

00:24:02.470 --> 00:24:03.890
they're going to take the foot off here and tank.

00:24:04.150 --> 00:24:06.309
But so many teams are tanking now that even if

00:24:06.309 --> 00:24:07.950
they wanted to tank, they couldn't really officially

00:24:07.950 --> 00:24:10.950
tank. So the tank is off. And for the radio announcer,

00:24:11.109 --> 00:24:12.490
this has got to be pretty fun looking at the

00:24:12.490 --> 00:24:15.190
final 25 -30 games and thinking pretty much every

00:24:15.190 --> 00:24:18.690
one of them has an impact on their playoff race.

00:24:19.609 --> 00:24:22.450
Yeah, I mean, look, tanking is still going to

00:24:22.450 --> 00:24:25.109
happen for some teams. Just maybe don't pull

00:24:25.109 --> 00:24:27.569
guys when you're up 17 heading into the fourth

00:24:27.569 --> 00:24:29.569
quarter and you pull your best players. That's

00:24:29.569 --> 00:24:31.789
maybe not quite the way to do it. It draws a

00:24:31.789 --> 00:24:33.450
little too much attention. But, yeah, to your

00:24:33.450 --> 00:24:35.970
point, I mean, really, you know, going into the

00:24:35.970 --> 00:24:38.650
last 26 games of the season and knowing that

00:24:38.650 --> 00:24:41.789
the best players on the team are going to be

00:24:41.789 --> 00:24:44.970
available when healthy, they are trying to win

00:24:44.970 --> 00:24:49.460
games. Unless something crazy happens, at the

00:24:49.460 --> 00:24:52.539
least they'll be in the play -in. Knowing that

00:24:52.539 --> 00:24:54.220
these games are going to matter and they're going

00:24:54.220 --> 00:24:56.539
to be competitive. Hasn't been that way in a

00:24:56.539 --> 00:24:59.220
bit. So, yeah, it's going to be fun. It's something

00:24:59.220 --> 00:25:01.160
to look forward to for sure. Yeah, Blazers currently

00:25:01.160 --> 00:25:04.759
tied with the Clippers 15 games out behind Oklahoma

00:25:04.759 --> 00:25:06.900
City. But they're two and a half back at Golden

00:25:06.900 --> 00:25:09.500
State for the eight. And like you say, it seems

00:25:09.500 --> 00:25:11.559
like Phoenix has probably wrapped up the seven,

00:25:11.619 --> 00:25:13.519
Golden State maybe the eight. But if it goes

00:25:13.519 --> 00:25:15.759
that way, then Portland gets to host a play -in

00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:17.400
game against the Clippers if it went the way

00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:20.859
it is now. And then if you win that, you get

00:25:20.859 --> 00:25:22.819
to take on Phoenix or Golden State and see if

00:25:22.819 --> 00:25:24.869
you can get the eight seed. Like you say, who

00:25:24.869 --> 00:25:26.549
knows where these playoffs are going with injuries.

00:25:26.769 --> 00:25:28.410
I mean, you get into something, and if the Blazers

00:25:28.410 --> 00:25:30.410
are healthy at the end there, maybe see if they

00:25:30.410 --> 00:25:32.910
could take a run at Oklahoma City or San Antonio.

00:25:32.990 --> 00:25:35.150
But if nothing else, it certainly has been fun

00:25:35.150 --> 00:25:38.009
to not only see the success here, but All -Star

00:25:38.009 --> 00:25:40.289
weekend, as we flash back, for the last few years

00:25:40.289 --> 00:25:42.069
has been kind of a ghost town for the Blazers.

00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:45.400
The Dame -Lillard three -point contest was, I

00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:46.740
thought, almost, I mean, certainly the highlight

00:25:46.740 --> 00:25:48.720
of All -Star Saturday, maybe the highlight of

00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:51.319
All -Star weekend. Denny gets in and plays. We

00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:54.579
see Young Hanson and Klingin in there. It's kind

00:25:54.579 --> 00:25:56.859
of fun to see kind of the Blazers populating

00:25:56.859 --> 00:25:59.819
an All -Star weekend. Yeah, it was. I mean, look,

00:25:59.960 --> 00:26:02.460
what Dame did was awesome, right? And we know

00:26:02.460 --> 00:26:04.359
that Dame can shoot. He's always been able to

00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:07.900
shoot. He's, what, nine, ten months removed from

00:26:07.900 --> 00:26:11.480
his Achilles injury. For him, being able to shoot

00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:15.740
and move from side to side a little bit didn't

00:26:15.740 --> 00:26:17.859
really put that much strain on him. It was awesome.

00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:19.900
And really, it was great to see him in a Blazers

00:26:19.900 --> 00:26:23.200
uniform, too, because the two times that he won

00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:25.819
it previously, once he did it with the Bucs,

00:26:25.819 --> 00:26:28.140
and the other time was with the Blazers, but

00:26:28.140 --> 00:26:31.319
he was wearing a Weber State uniform. So it was

00:26:31.319 --> 00:26:34.910
really cool to see that. And, you know, Denny

00:26:34.910 --> 00:26:37.950
being in the all -star game was great. I actually

00:26:37.950 --> 00:26:40.450
thought the all -star game format was really

00:26:40.450 --> 00:26:43.329
entertaining this year because the games were

00:26:43.329 --> 00:26:46.029
shorter and it was, you know, kind of easier

00:26:46.029 --> 00:26:48.609
for the players to go in kind of short spurts.

00:26:48.829 --> 00:26:50.769
They seemed to care a little bit more, which

00:26:50.769 --> 00:26:53.589
was great. And then, yeah, seeing, you know,

00:26:53.589 --> 00:26:55.890
D .C. and Hansen, having those guys be a part

00:26:55.890 --> 00:26:58.670
of it, it was something to pay attention to.

00:26:58.750 --> 00:27:00.509
And, well, I was probably going to pay attention

00:27:00.509 --> 00:27:05.549
anyway. it was a little more interesting knowing

00:27:05.549 --> 00:27:08.589
that some of our guys were in it. And it was

00:27:08.589 --> 00:27:10.990
probably a little bit of a... Players not wanting

00:27:10.990 --> 00:27:13.289
to get embarrassed by Victor Wim and Yama as

00:27:13.289 --> 00:27:16.609
well. Some blocks that I think, you know, guys

00:27:16.609 --> 00:27:18.170
started to play a little bit harder once they

00:27:18.170 --> 00:27:20.349
saw what was going on. But just thinking about

00:27:20.349 --> 00:27:22.309
those two of the guys, not necessarily everybody

00:27:22.309 --> 00:27:24.809
was there. But Dame and Denny, because obviously

00:27:24.809 --> 00:27:27.549
we got to see Dame competing as a Blazer for

00:27:27.549 --> 00:27:29.470
the first time in a while. Denny was able to

00:27:29.470 --> 00:27:30.930
play in the All -Star game. So it has me thinking

00:27:30.930 --> 00:27:32.789
about those two guys. And we obviously don't

00:27:32.789 --> 00:27:34.890
know exactly what Dame is going to be next year.

00:27:34.970 --> 00:27:36.509
But I think we know that he's going to be able

00:27:36.509 --> 00:27:40.579
to shoot. I've heard Dame talk about the ability

00:27:40.579 --> 00:27:43.720
of LeBron and Chris Paul to be able to manipulate

00:27:43.720 --> 00:27:46.160
an offense, to be able to continue to have a

00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:49.619
career later into his post -athletic days. So

00:27:49.619 --> 00:27:51.059
I think there's still a chance that he can be

00:27:51.059 --> 00:27:53.279
a really good player. But what do you think about

00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:55.019
the connection between those two guys? Obviously,

00:27:55.019 --> 00:27:57.200
we don't know what's going to happen with Dame.

00:27:57.380 --> 00:27:59.940
But do you see some potential there with a guy

00:27:59.940 --> 00:28:02.079
in Denny that isn't necessarily the best shooter

00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:03.980
and a guy like Dame, who obviously is one of

00:28:03.980 --> 00:28:06.789
the greatest shooters of all time? Yeah, I mean,

00:28:06.789 --> 00:28:09.250
look, Danny's not a bad shooter. He's struggled

00:28:09.250 --> 00:28:12.630
since he's come back from injury. And he's still

00:28:12.630 --> 00:28:15.430
shooting 35 % from three. He was up around, you

00:28:15.430 --> 00:28:18.569
know, 37 % for chunks of the season. And that's

00:28:18.569 --> 00:28:21.329
a good three -point shooter, right? And you look

00:28:21.329 --> 00:28:23.130
around the team at, you know, some of the other

00:28:23.130 --> 00:28:25.829
guys, Tumana Kamara's up to 37 % after a really

00:28:25.829 --> 00:28:29.390
rough start to the year. You know, I think they're

00:28:29.390 --> 00:28:31.650
going to be fine in the big picture. But to your

00:28:31.650 --> 00:28:33.430
point, you know, two things there with Dame.

00:28:34.550 --> 00:28:37.690
I have maintained, even before he signed with

00:28:37.690 --> 00:28:39.910
the Blazers, that I think he is still going to

00:28:39.910 --> 00:28:41.809
play at an all -star level when he comes back.

00:28:42.390 --> 00:28:44.650
Superstar level, no, but I don't think he would

00:28:44.650 --> 00:28:47.130
have anyway because, you know, he's going to

00:28:47.130 --> 00:28:49.329
be 36 years old when the season starts next year.

00:28:49.390 --> 00:28:52.690
But there's no reason. with the things that he

00:28:52.690 --> 00:28:55.390
does well, why he can't still play at an all

00:28:55.390 --> 00:28:57.890
-star level. The speed burst won't be there.

00:28:58.109 --> 00:29:00.029
Again, with his age, I don't think it would have

00:29:00.029 --> 00:29:03.769
been anyway. So I still think Dame is going to

00:29:03.769 --> 00:29:07.410
be a really, really good player. Not the guy

00:29:07.410 --> 00:29:10.569
he was at 30, 31 years old, but I still think

00:29:10.569 --> 00:29:14.190
he's going to be very effective and a really

00:29:14.190 --> 00:29:18.529
good player for this team. To have Denny and

00:29:18.529 --> 00:29:22.809
Dame together. it just opens everything up. And

00:29:22.809 --> 00:29:24.730
it's not just the effect of those two guys together.

00:29:24.849 --> 00:29:26.130
I think they're going to have great rapport on

00:29:26.130 --> 00:29:28.829
the floor. But having a guy who is an elite,

00:29:28.890 --> 00:29:30.430
one of the best three -point shooters of all

00:29:30.430 --> 00:29:33.750
time, will obviously open the floor up. But I

00:29:33.750 --> 00:29:36.450
think it will also make Denny and Scoot and Drew

00:29:36.450 --> 00:29:39.769
Holiday's assist numbers jump. So to see all

00:29:39.769 --> 00:29:42.730
those things with those guys together, I'm really

00:29:42.730 --> 00:29:45.769
excited for it. And I think there's going to

00:29:45.769 --> 00:29:48.309
be a big jump from this team next year for a

00:29:48.309 --> 00:29:51.279
number of reasons. Travis Demers, voice of the

00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:53.000
Portland Trailblazers. You can hear him back

00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:55.900
on the air Friday night. The Blazers host the

00:29:55.900 --> 00:29:58.519
Denver Nuggets at 7 o 'clock. Travis, I was listening

00:29:58.519 --> 00:30:01.200
to Zach Lowe's podcast today, and he said that

00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:03.339
for him, the most intriguing player in the NBA

00:30:03.339 --> 00:30:05.519
in the second half of the schedule is Scoot Henderson.

00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:09.579
He said that he thought the first four games

00:30:09.579 --> 00:30:11.599
back he's looked pretty good, minus the turnovers,

00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:14.059
which have been a problem, but he's kind of showing

00:30:14.059 --> 00:30:16.279
some of the signs that people thought is the

00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:17.900
number three pick, and maybe he never lives up

00:30:17.900 --> 00:30:19.839
to the number three pick, but he really thought

00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:21.859
he wanted to see kind of what he can do the final

00:30:21.859 --> 00:30:24.519
20 -some -odd games. Do you look at this time

00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:27.650
for him as sort of... Is this a key time for

00:30:27.650 --> 00:30:29.250
him to come back and show kind of what he can

00:30:29.250 --> 00:30:30.670
be? Because obviously this team next year, they

00:30:30.670 --> 00:30:33.029
bring back Damian Lillard. As far as we know,

00:30:33.069 --> 00:30:34.670
they bring back Drew Holiday. They bring back

00:30:34.670 --> 00:30:36.950
Scoot Henderson. So that's, you know, Scoot going

00:30:36.950 --> 00:30:38.930
into year four or five and not being guaranteed

00:30:38.930 --> 00:30:40.950
a starting spot. Do you think that they were

00:30:40.950 --> 00:30:43.009
interested to see kind of a lot of him during

00:30:43.009 --> 00:30:45.509
these last few games to see how he will figure

00:30:45.509 --> 00:30:48.809
into next year's mix? Yeah. And I mean, when

00:30:48.809 --> 00:30:51.730
you say a key time, yes, I agree with you. And

00:30:51.730 --> 00:30:55.319
to show what he can do. What I would ask is show

00:30:55.319 --> 00:31:00.940
it to who because I think the team strongly believes

00:31:00.940 --> 00:31:05.099
what they have in Scoot Henderson. So I don't

00:31:05.099 --> 00:31:08.200
think there's a need for him to prove it to anyone

00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:11.180
in the organization. I don't know how things

00:31:11.180 --> 00:31:14.339
will be affected with the new owner coming in,

00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:17.980
what his role is going to be in terms of personnel

00:31:17.980 --> 00:31:20.690
or anything like that. If the people that are

00:31:20.690 --> 00:31:23.809
in charge now are continuing to make personnel

00:31:23.809 --> 00:31:26.150
decisions, I don't think he has to prove anything

00:31:26.150 --> 00:31:30.829
at all. And I've been very, very high on Scoot.

00:31:31.289 --> 00:31:34.470
The second half of last year, he was very good.

00:31:35.490 --> 00:31:38.230
By all accounts, he had a great summer and was

00:31:38.230 --> 00:31:40.769
looking really good and was ready to take off

00:31:40.769 --> 00:31:42.769
this year, and then he got hurt. And what we've

00:31:42.769 --> 00:31:44.950
seen from Scoot in his first few games back,

00:31:45.150 --> 00:31:48.869
I think it's a really strong indication. of who

00:31:48.869 --> 00:31:52.609
he is you you mentioned the turnovers and it

00:31:52.609 --> 00:31:55.089
has been a problem for Scoot but I also think

00:31:55.089 --> 00:31:57.309
part of that is trying to just get back into

00:31:57.309 --> 00:31:59.769
a flow of things and I'm I'm not overly concerned

00:31:59.769 --> 00:32:03.470
about the turnovers that we've seen this year

00:32:03.470 --> 00:32:06.970
um I I think there are a lot of things that he

00:32:06.970 --> 00:32:09.569
has shown that he can do and will do really well

00:32:09.569 --> 00:32:12.390
his vision has been terrific his ability to get

00:32:12.390 --> 00:32:15.009
to the rim and get to the free throw line um

00:32:15.009 --> 00:32:18.450
you know the passing and he's He's a good shooter.

00:32:18.589 --> 00:32:20.390
It didn't look like it early in his career, but

00:32:20.390 --> 00:32:22.609
he's really improved there. I don't know that

00:32:22.609 --> 00:32:25.609
he's ever, to your point, going to show that

00:32:25.609 --> 00:32:28.730
he's the number three pick, live up to that,

00:32:28.829 --> 00:32:31.490
whatever. But I see him having a very strong

00:32:31.490 --> 00:32:33.630
career. I don't know that he'll be a superstar.

00:32:33.849 --> 00:32:36.009
I don't know that he'll be an all -star. But

00:32:36.009 --> 00:32:40.369
as he matures, I really see him as kind of the

00:32:40.369 --> 00:32:44.490
backbone of a franchise -type guy. And being

00:32:44.490 --> 00:32:47.009
able to sit and learn with Drew Holiday when

00:32:47.009 --> 00:32:49.529
Scoot has been hurt and Drew missed 30 -plus

00:32:49.529 --> 00:32:52.329
games and Dame has missed the entire season,

00:32:52.369 --> 00:32:54.750
I think there's been a lot of really important

00:32:54.750 --> 00:32:57.529
things that he's been able to pick up in that

00:32:57.529 --> 00:33:02.009
stretch. So I'm very intrigued by what we're

00:33:02.009 --> 00:33:03.950
going to see from Scoot in the last 26 games.

00:33:04.609 --> 00:33:07.789
I do think it is very important. But also, I

00:33:07.789 --> 00:33:11.630
don't think that there's a lot of pressure on

00:33:11.630 --> 00:33:14.609
him. And I don't think there's... really this

00:33:14.609 --> 00:33:18.589
need for him to prove anything because the people

00:33:18.589 --> 00:33:21.390
that he needs to prove something to believe in

00:33:21.390 --> 00:33:24.769
him. In terms of the timing of the break, obviously

00:33:24.769 --> 00:33:27.269
the Blazers won four out of the last five games,

00:33:27.369 --> 00:33:29.390
but there was some injury stuff going on as well.

00:33:29.470 --> 00:33:31.549
Shaden Sharp suffered a calf injury. Obviously,

00:33:31.630 --> 00:33:33.549
Denny had the back injury that he's been in and

00:33:33.549 --> 00:33:34.869
out of the lineup. You did have a couple guys

00:33:34.869 --> 00:33:37.480
come back, a la Scoot. But do you think the break

00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:39.900
actually kind of came at a good time, despite

00:33:39.900 --> 00:33:41.880
the fact, just because of the injuries, that

00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:44.400
the Blazers were playing pretty well? Well, look,

00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:46.779
I will never say there is a bad time for the

00:33:46.779 --> 00:33:49.339
All -Star break, right? You know, every team

00:33:49.339 --> 00:33:52.380
needs it, Blazers especially. No team has lost

00:33:52.380 --> 00:33:54.720
more, you know, man games to injury than the

00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:57.900
Blazers have this year. So, yeah, Denny did play

00:33:57.900 --> 00:33:59.799
in the All -Star game, but he didn't play a ton

00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:01.640
of minutes. He was also looking a lot more like

00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:05.519
himself, you know, when the break started. To

00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:10.000
see him have another few days off is great. I

00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:13.159
don't know what Shaden Sharp's status is. I don't

00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:16.300
know if he's going to be out another week, another

00:34:16.300 --> 00:34:18.059
month, the rest of the year, or if he's going

00:34:18.059 --> 00:34:20.920
to play on Friday night. I really don't have

00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:24.280
any idea on that. What's that? It's a wide range

00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:27.860
of outcomes. Yeah, totally. I have no knowledge

00:34:27.860 --> 00:34:30.800
of that. Whatever it is, having another week

00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:33.519
for him to get healthy is great. Having Scoot

00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:36.760
to have... another week after playing a few games

00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:39.480
and rest. Same thing with Chris Murray or Matisse

00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:41.960
Seibel. I don't know what their injury statuses

00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:43.760
are. So, you know, for this team to have the

00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:47.960
break now 56 games in and head into the final

00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:50.400
26, the home stretch of the year with the easiest

00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:52.380
schedule in the league in terms of opponents,

00:34:52.780 --> 00:34:55.300
yeah, I think it came at a great time. And I

00:34:55.300 --> 00:34:59.539
am really optimistic on what the last stretch

00:34:59.539 --> 00:35:02.059
of the season is going to look like. He is Travis

00:35:02.059 --> 00:35:04.119
Demers, the voice of the Portland Trail Blazers.

00:35:04.139 --> 00:35:07.039
As he mentioned, you got at least 26 more games

00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:09.539
to hear him this year, but I'm betting a couple

00:35:09.539 --> 00:35:11.420
more, maybe a couple of play -in games and even

00:35:11.420 --> 00:35:14.940
more than that as the Blazers are in the mix

00:35:14.940 --> 00:35:16.800
for the postseason as they head down the stretch.

00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:19.239
Travis, we appreciate it. I think this is the

00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:21.179
second time that I didn't bother you the first

00:35:21.179 --> 00:35:23.559
time, second time that at least Justin's bothered

00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:25.760
you during the All -Star break. So we really

00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:28.739
appreciate you coming on twice during what should

00:35:28.739 --> 00:35:31.659
have been a blackout time. for you, but we always

00:35:31.659 --> 00:35:33.719
appreciate you coming on, and we'll be listening

00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:36.099
on Friday night when you get back at it. Yeah,

00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:38.500
thanks, guys. I don't have a blackout time right

00:35:38.500 --> 00:35:42.219
now. I'm getting some bills done and watching

00:35:42.219 --> 00:35:45.659
Olympic overtime hockey, so I'm just hanging

00:35:45.659 --> 00:35:48.300
out. Sounds good. Always appreciate you. Yeah,

00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:49.719
we appreciate it, man. We'll chat with you soon.

00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:52.400
Thanks, guys. All right, that's Travis Demers

00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:54.920
of your Portland Trailblazers, who you can hear

00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:58.059
here on Fox Sports. Eugene, Friday night at 7

00:35:58.059 --> 00:35:59.920
o 'clock against the Nuggets. All right, when

00:35:59.920 --> 00:36:02.239
we come back, let's chat some Oregon softball.

00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:04.440
The Ducks are coming off a weekend, and I know

00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:06.159
we didn't get a chance to chat about that yesterday.

00:36:06.539 --> 00:36:09.679
And if we have time, we'll get into crazy Mick

00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:12.079
Cronin and actually crazy coaches everywhere.

00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:14.960
Coaches getting fired, coaches getting fined,

00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:17.079
coaches getting ridiculed for their post -game

00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:19.320
antics. We'll get into that and some softball.

00:36:19.519 --> 00:36:21.440
This is Steve Mims. I'm filling in for Danny.

00:36:21.500 --> 00:36:22.920
You're listening to The Danny and Justin Show

00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:25.840
on Fox Sports Eugene and Fox Sports Newport.

00:36:28.980 --> 00:36:31.300
Welcome back into the Danny and Justin show as

00:36:31.300 --> 00:36:34.780
we wrap up a Wednesday episode. Danny will be

00:36:34.780 --> 00:36:36.940
back in tomorrow, and you guys have Stitch Head.

00:36:37.059 --> 00:36:38.960
Stitch Head, Eric Sorensen. Talk some college

00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:40.920
baseball tomorrow. Yeah, excited about it. Yes,

00:36:41.059 --> 00:36:43.500
Oregon baseball is excited as well as they came

00:36:43.500 --> 00:36:46.300
off a four -game sweep of George Mason. It's

00:36:46.300 --> 00:36:47.699
been a little bit of a rockier start for Oregon

00:36:47.699 --> 00:36:49.500
softball. Started the year ranked number five.

00:36:49.539 --> 00:36:52.349
I think I saw they're down to 15. Five and four,

00:36:52.429 --> 00:36:54.550
played a tough schedule early on and had a nice

00:36:54.550 --> 00:36:56.449
weekend last weekend that take three out of four.

00:36:56.690 --> 00:36:59.210
What's been kind of your early impressions of

00:36:59.210 --> 00:37:02.050
this team? Well, I'm a little concerned. I think

00:37:02.050 --> 00:37:06.670
that I'm not overall down on this team. You look

00:37:06.670 --> 00:37:08.949
at the roster, and I still really, really like

00:37:08.949 --> 00:37:11.190
what I see. But I guess it's concerning when

00:37:11.190 --> 00:37:13.650
you have a team that they've been playing really,

00:37:13.730 --> 00:37:15.550
really well against the teams who aren't very

00:37:15.550 --> 00:37:18.210
good. And against the teams that are the ranked

00:37:18.210 --> 00:37:20.630
teams, they lost to No. 13 Clemson. They did

00:37:20.630 --> 00:37:23.150
beat No. 21 Liberty. But then they lost 2 -0

00:37:23.150 --> 00:37:25.590
to Tennessee. And then Southeastern Louisiana.

00:37:26.030 --> 00:37:28.989
I feel like that one was losing twice to Tennessee,

00:37:29.070 --> 00:37:31.210
to be honest with you. Just a long weekend for

00:37:31.210 --> 00:37:33.250
them. And then Stanford. That was the game that

00:37:33.250 --> 00:37:35.030
coming into the Cardinal Classic, you knew that

00:37:35.030 --> 00:37:37.050
it was going to come up. And they hadn't had

00:37:37.050 --> 00:37:39.630
success against the top -tier ranked teams. It's

00:37:39.630 --> 00:37:41.329
a harder schedule than last year. It was a much

00:37:41.329 --> 00:37:45.429
more... ramped up schedule last season and they

00:37:45.429 --> 00:37:47.570
didn't lose two games in a row all of last season

00:37:47.570 --> 00:37:50.230
so i was really looking at that game against

00:37:50.230 --> 00:37:52.949
the cardinal uh and it was also they had a bunch

00:37:52.949 --> 00:37:54.750
of changes and where the site was going to be

00:37:54.750 --> 00:37:57.230
whatever um but they had their opportunities

00:37:57.230 --> 00:38:00.610
in this game they had bases loaded uh first three

00:38:00.610 --> 00:38:03.929
players on in the second inning down two to nothing

00:38:03.929 --> 00:38:06.369
they did get a run but they haven't been able

00:38:06.369 --> 00:38:08.699
to put together that beginning And there's two

00:38:08.699 --> 00:38:11.340
players that I look at that I think that they

00:38:11.340 --> 00:38:13.039
would tell you themselves that, you know, it's

00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:16.019
only been 20 at -bats, 17 at -bats, but you need

00:38:16.019 --> 00:38:18.000
to see a little more production out of Stephanie

00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:22.860
Minake and Riley McCoy. Stephanie is, let's see

00:38:22.860 --> 00:38:27.440
here, she is 2 for 17, and Riley is 1 for 20.

00:38:27.699 --> 00:38:31.559
And those are two players that last year, absolute

00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:33.960
studs. And every single time they came up, it

00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:35.099
felt like they were going to get a home run.

00:38:35.509 --> 00:38:37.190
and not saying that they can't get back into

00:38:37.190 --> 00:38:38.710
it. It's a timing sport. I've been saying that

00:38:38.710 --> 00:38:40.409
for the first couple weeks. I think that you

00:38:40.409 --> 00:38:42.230
need to get into the rhythm of the season. I

00:38:42.230 --> 00:38:44.590
think that any diamond sport is going to be like

00:38:44.590 --> 00:38:47.369
that. But that has been really hurting them so

00:38:47.369 --> 00:38:49.349
far this season. You have a few players that

00:38:49.349 --> 00:38:51.329
are playing really well, Yana Shaw, Kaylin Jones,

00:38:51.570 --> 00:38:54.329
Emma Cox is still playing really well. So some

00:38:54.329 --> 00:38:56.250
of the players, the freshmen from last year,

00:38:56.329 --> 00:38:58.670
continuing what they were able to do. But it's

00:38:58.670 --> 00:39:00.969
a new season, and you can't just assume. I think

00:39:00.969 --> 00:39:03.159
we get in the same trap. In every single sport,

00:39:03.219 --> 00:39:04.980
every single year, where you think you have it

00:39:04.980 --> 00:39:06.980
all figured out, and you know how good each player

00:39:06.980 --> 00:39:08.940
is going to be coming into the next year, and

00:39:08.940 --> 00:39:11.599
it's always a little different. And so between

00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:13.760
the lineup and then the pitching has been pretty

00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:16.340
good, but not maybe quite as elite. Like Lindsey,

00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:18.780
it seemed like she maybe wasn't, you know, she

00:39:18.780 --> 00:39:20.699
started off the season with a no -hitter her

00:39:20.699 --> 00:39:22.739
first ever career, and it seemed like, hey, maybe

00:39:22.739 --> 00:39:23.880
this is going to be a year where she'll have

00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:26.960
an 0 -50 ERA, and that just hasn't quite happened

00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:30.000
yet. Yep, yep. This week, the always difficult

00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:35.400
Mary Nutter. And it is a weekend of chance. You're

00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:37.119
going to love this, Justin. It's a chance for

00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.960
Oregon to take on SEC teams and change some SEC

00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:42.320
narratives. Yes. They start with Auburn, Texas,

00:39:42.460 --> 00:39:45.159
A &M, South Carolina. If they can win all three

00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:47.960
of those, Justin will be proclaiming the overrated

00:39:47.960 --> 00:39:51.400
SEC is back. Then they wrap it up with Cal State

00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:52.860
Fullerton, who you mentioned they beat twice

00:39:52.860 --> 00:39:56.360
last week, and Duke, an ACC team. So it'll be

00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:57.619
interesting to see. There's a tough one there

00:39:57.619 --> 00:40:01.679
this weekend as the softball team heads down

00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:03.860
to the Mary Nutter. And not just tough because

00:40:03.860 --> 00:40:05.699
you're playing good teams, but you're also playing

00:40:05.699 --> 00:40:07.440
a doubleheader on Thursday, you're playing a

00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:09.179
doubleheader on Friday, and then another ranked

00:40:09.179 --> 00:40:11.829
team on Saturday. Yeah. Yeah, no doubt. No doubt.

00:40:11.929 --> 00:40:14.389
So we'll see. Like I say, maybe this is the week

00:40:14.389 --> 00:40:16.730
where Stephanie and the rest of them get it going.

00:40:16.869 --> 00:40:19.550
It could be. It could be. Sometimes it just clicks.

00:40:19.750 --> 00:40:21.289
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like you say, it's baseball.

00:40:21.389 --> 00:40:23.210
And somebody goes one for 20 in the middle of

00:40:23.210 --> 00:40:24.469
the season, they never notice it. When they go

00:40:24.469 --> 00:40:26.309
one for 20 to start and suddenly you see a batting

00:40:26.309 --> 00:40:28.309
average that says 0 -5 -0, you think, oh, what

00:40:28.309 --> 00:40:29.590
the heck's going on here? 100%. That's a great

00:40:29.590 --> 00:40:33.010
point. All right. There has been some college

00:40:33.010 --> 00:40:35.690
basketball news today. Steve Lavin, longtime

00:40:35.690 --> 00:40:39.389
UCLA coach, who was about... Beloved around here

00:40:39.389 --> 00:40:43.989
has been let go by San Diego. And big news, I

00:40:43.989 --> 00:40:45.909
would say it would impact Oregon in the NCAA

00:40:45.909 --> 00:40:47.570
tournament, but Oregon won't be in the NCAA tournament.

00:40:48.250 --> 00:40:52.070
JT Toppin, who's I believe the highest paid player

00:40:52.070 --> 00:40:53.909
in college basketball this year, I think he was

00:40:53.909 --> 00:40:57.269
getting like $6 million to stay at A &M, is out

00:40:57.269 --> 00:40:59.449
for the season with a torn ACL. So rough news

00:40:59.449 --> 00:41:02.190
right there. Arizona's without Koa Peet, one

00:41:02.190 --> 00:41:04.510
of their best players, as they take on BYU tonight.

00:41:05.179 --> 00:41:07.940
Meanwhile, coaches are going crazy, and one of

00:41:07.940 --> 00:41:10.400
those coaches that's going nuts is Mick Cronin.

00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:12.599
If you missed it last night, this was his response

00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:15.320
after a loss to Michigan State. What was your

00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:17.579
thoughts on the student section chanting Booker's

00:41:17.579 --> 00:41:19.940
name? I could give a rat's s*** about the other

00:41:19.940 --> 00:41:22.280
team's student section. I just meant overall

00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:24.119
the way that you answered it. I would like to

00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:29.099
give you a kudos for the worst question I've

00:41:29.099 --> 00:41:32.989
ever been asked. Did you like the preparation?

00:41:34.690 --> 00:41:36.429
You really think I care about the other team?

00:41:36.429 --> 00:41:38.250
No, I don't think you care about the other team.

00:41:38.250 --> 00:41:39.730
Are you raising your voice at me? No, I'm just

00:41:39.730 --> 00:41:43.289
talking. Yeah, you are. Come on, dude. Yes, you

00:41:43.289 --> 00:41:45.130
are. Everybody's standing here listening to you.

00:41:45.610 --> 00:41:48.550
This is on camera. They can hear you. I answered

00:41:48.550 --> 00:41:50.590
the question. I could give a rat's ass about

00:41:50.590 --> 00:41:54.170
the other team's student section. I coach UCLA.

00:41:54.349 --> 00:41:56.230
I don't care about Michigan State's students.

00:41:56.349 --> 00:42:01.829
Who cares? Come on, dude, Mick. Come on, dude.

00:42:02.269 --> 00:42:04.489
And by the way, the irony of saying, do you realize

00:42:04.489 --> 00:42:06.630
how embarrassing this is for you because the

00:42:06.630 --> 00:42:08.829
cameras are catching it? When Mick is now the

00:42:08.829 --> 00:42:11.230
one being embarrassed is a lack of awareness

00:42:11.230 --> 00:42:15.409
is bizarre. I'll put myself into the former reporter

00:42:15.409 --> 00:42:17.289
spot. And I've interviewed Mick Cronin a few

00:42:17.289 --> 00:42:19.409
times. He's pretty fun sometimes because he can

00:42:19.409 --> 00:42:23.409
be pretty sharp and this and that. And if you

00:42:23.409 --> 00:42:25.050
want to be funny about, you know, the worst question

00:42:25.050 --> 00:42:28.159
I've ever been asked, that's fine. But to do

00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:29.760
it in a serious way, you know, if you say, you

00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:31.199
know, come on, that's the worst question I've

00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:33.300
ever asked. But to be in a serious way is dumb

00:42:33.300 --> 00:42:34.460
because it wasn't that dumb of a question. It

00:42:34.460 --> 00:42:36.900
was a former Michigan State player who was playing

00:42:36.900 --> 00:42:40.420
at UCLA who got cheered by Michigan State fans

00:42:40.420 --> 00:42:42.500
when he came back. So that was what the question

00:42:42.500 --> 00:42:44.139
was. It wasn't like just a dumb, hey, what do

00:42:44.139 --> 00:42:46.199
you think about the crowd tonight one? So that

00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:48.460
one, he was wrong on there. The guy did not raise

00:42:48.460 --> 00:42:49.960
his voice at him. The guy got, you know, and

00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:51.400
I've been in that too, where if somebody kind

00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:52.780
of comes back at you, you might be like, well,

00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:54.460
wait a minute. Now I'm kind of coming. And that's

00:42:54.460 --> 00:42:56.889
not raising your voice. No, it wasn't. Fight

00:42:56.889 --> 00:42:58.829
you back or anything like that. So he completely

00:42:58.829 --> 00:43:01.630
misread that. Again, then further humiliated

00:43:01.630 --> 00:43:03.829
himself. And Mick Cronin, I mean, this goes back

00:43:03.829 --> 00:43:05.690
to last year. It's like every game they lose,

00:43:05.769 --> 00:43:07.630
he complains about the travel. He complains about

00:43:07.630 --> 00:43:10.289
what conference they're in. He's been complaining

00:43:10.289 --> 00:43:12.829
just constantly. And even worse than that is

00:43:12.829 --> 00:43:15.650
his team's underachieving. They probably lost

00:43:15.650 --> 00:43:17.550
last night, and the last couple they've had has

00:43:17.550 --> 00:43:19.389
probably knocked them off the bubble. I think

00:43:19.389 --> 00:43:22.820
Mick Cronin. Was safe to come back. We'll get

00:43:22.820 --> 00:43:24.699
back to the Dana Altman talk. I think he was

00:43:24.699 --> 00:43:26.800
safe to come back next year, even if they just

00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:28.599
kind of missed the bubble. But what he's doing

00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:31.300
now, look, Kansas State fired their guy last

00:43:31.300 --> 00:43:34.039
week and based it on his postgame comments saying

00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:35.900
he embarrassed the school with that. What Mick

00:43:35.900 --> 00:43:38.139
Cronin did last night certainly embarrassed UCLA.

00:43:38.539 --> 00:43:40.340
And that might be what ends up running him out

00:43:40.340 --> 00:43:44.659
as if, A, he's kind of a. We bleeped out the

00:43:44.659 --> 00:43:48.260
A word, so he's kind of a bleep in the first

00:43:48.260 --> 00:43:51.739
part. And, you know, I can't imagine the crowds

00:43:51.739 --> 00:43:53.719
love him. I think it's going to be tough for

00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:55.219
a guy like that to recruit really well because

00:43:55.219 --> 00:43:56.699
people want to go play for him. So I wouldn't

00:43:56.699 --> 00:43:58.460
be surprised. It just feels like it's a meltdown

00:43:58.460 --> 00:44:00.909
for McCronum right now. And I wouldn't be surprised

00:44:00.909 --> 00:44:04.170
if this was his last year, in part due to the

00:44:04.170 --> 00:44:06.289
results, but also just maybe UCLA saying, you

00:44:06.289 --> 00:44:07.909
know, we don't really need this kind of an act

00:44:07.909 --> 00:44:09.409
around much longer. It just feels like if you're

00:44:09.409 --> 00:44:11.409
a head coach, you've got to be the most mature

00:44:11.409 --> 00:44:13.230
person in the room. And there's Dane Altman.

00:44:13.309 --> 00:44:15.949
Dane Altman has never snapped, and he's been

00:44:15.949 --> 00:44:18.190
asked, including for me, I'm sure I've probably

00:44:18.190 --> 00:44:20.210
asked Dane Altman the dumbest question he's ever

00:44:20.210 --> 00:44:21.889
been asked, and he never snapped at me in eight

00:44:21.889 --> 00:44:24.050
years. People would come in and give you some

00:44:24.050 --> 00:44:26.250
gotcha moments or this and that. You've got to

00:44:26.250 --> 00:44:27.949
be that Dane Altman type and just know, hey,

00:44:27.969 --> 00:44:30.289
I'm being paid pretty good money here. Part of

00:44:30.289 --> 00:44:32.590
that is to handle the 10 minutes after a game

00:44:32.590 --> 00:44:34.630
I have to speak with these people. I may not

00:44:34.630 --> 00:44:36.309
like the guy who's asking the question. I may

00:44:36.309 --> 00:44:38.489
not like the question. But it goes viral, and

00:44:38.489 --> 00:44:40.389
it's even worse than if you just kind of handle

00:44:40.389 --> 00:44:41.849
it in that way. It could have been a nothing.

00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:44.380
Absolutely. It could have been nothing. He could

00:44:44.380 --> 00:44:48.679
have said, I didn't really care. But once you

00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:50.699
get into the personal part, again, and now you've

00:44:50.699 --> 00:44:52.420
got to realize, as he realized that we're on

00:44:52.420 --> 00:44:54.159
camera, you've got to realize that you're looking

00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:56.380
dumb on that. Yeah, exactly. And that was after

00:44:56.380 --> 00:44:59.280
that bizarre situation where he sent his center,

00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:01.480
Stephenson. Embarrassed this guy, basically.

00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:05.079
Yeah, exactly. So it's not coming across as a

00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:09.500
coach who. is being cerebral yeah and and just

00:45:09.500 --> 00:45:11.380
going back to dane altman i mean he's never had

00:45:11.380 --> 00:45:12.920
a problem with that and i'd much rather have

00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:16.800
a coach that is like that than one that is trying

00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:18.639
to make a point and that's what it seemed like

00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:20.559
he was doing and it just it seemed like it was

00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:23.110
out of insecurity as much as anything. If you're

00:45:23.110 --> 00:45:24.449
an AD, the last thing you want to worry about

00:45:24.449 --> 00:45:26.250
is the post -game press conference. It's like,

00:45:26.269 --> 00:45:27.650
you got to worry about the games. Those are important

00:45:27.650 --> 00:45:29.989
enough. And I think that's been one of the great

00:45:29.989 --> 00:45:31.829
things about it. It's never got a technical foul.

00:45:31.949 --> 00:45:33.469
I believe that streak is still intact. I looked

00:45:33.469 --> 00:45:36.050
it up. I think that's true. Yep. That might be

00:45:36.050 --> 00:45:37.750
threatened this year. The way the season's going,

00:45:37.789 --> 00:45:40.670
there may be one that comes. But he has always

00:45:40.670 --> 00:45:43.429
handled the media really well. And some of you

00:45:43.429 --> 00:45:45.409
covered him graciously. Wasn't always, and he

00:45:45.409 --> 00:45:47.110
even told me, when I told him I was leaving the

00:45:47.110 --> 00:45:48.969
paper, we had kind of a private conversation.

00:45:49.110 --> 00:45:50.429
And he was like, sorry, Steve, I probably wasn't

00:45:50.429 --> 00:45:52.519
always that interested. for you. That's true.

00:45:52.579 --> 00:45:54.199
He wasn't always the most interesting quote in

00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:56.119
the world, but he showed up after every game

00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:58.980
and, like I say, handled himself as the university,

00:45:59.179 --> 00:46:00.960
is what I can say. Think what you want of the

00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:02.719
Kansas State thing. I thought it was overreaction

00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:04.500
by Kansas State, but they fired the guy based

00:46:04.500 --> 00:46:07.159
on what he said in that press conference. Mick

00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:09.880
Cronin is now, I think, maybe running to the

00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:11.820
end of his time at UCLA based on the way he's

00:46:11.820 --> 00:46:13.559
handling some of these press conferences. Doug

00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:15.059
Gottlieb, who used to be able to hear on this

00:46:15.059 --> 00:46:18.099
station, got suspended for one game today based

00:46:18.099 --> 00:46:19.820
on his post -game press conference and ranting

00:46:19.820 --> 00:46:22.130
on the refs. So it feels like... College basketball,

00:46:22.309 --> 00:46:24.809
just these coaches are just losing it. The ones

00:46:24.809 --> 00:46:27.550
who are not winning games are losing it, except

00:46:27.550 --> 00:46:29.210
for Dan Altman, who's not winning games but not

00:46:29.210 --> 00:46:32.190
losing it in that way. I think there's an argument

00:46:32.190 --> 00:46:34.369
that college basketball is in as bad of a place

00:46:34.369 --> 00:46:36.610
as it has ever been. It's certainly in the time

00:46:36.610 --> 00:46:39.650
I can remember. I mean, the tournament last year,

00:46:39.730 --> 00:46:42.599
in my opinion. No upsets. That's not very interesting

00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:44.059
to me. Obviously, there were some good games

00:46:44.059 --> 00:46:46.219
in there, but I think that wasn't super exciting.

00:46:46.460 --> 00:46:49.239
You have all this stuff with the transfers and

00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.800
players coming from the pros, all the NIL stuff.

00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:56.519
The product on the court a lot of time isn't

00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:58.760
as good as what's going on in the NBA. To me,

00:46:58.780 --> 00:47:01.150
it just feels like this is a low point. Yeah,

00:47:01.190 --> 00:47:03.590
I would somewhat fight back just a sense. I like

00:47:03.590 --> 00:47:05.630
watching like Arizona this year. I think we're

00:47:05.630 --> 00:47:08.469
seeing that teams are able to keep some of their

00:47:08.469 --> 00:47:10.630
guys and some of these teams are a little bit

00:47:10.630 --> 00:47:13.469
more well gelled. And that's fair. We didn't

00:47:13.469 --> 00:47:15.269
see that for like 10 years. JT Toppin would be

00:47:15.269 --> 00:47:16.710
one who's out now. But, you know, that's the

00:47:16.710 --> 00:47:18.489
guy who would have gone pro under a pre -NIL

00:47:18.489 --> 00:47:20.130
world. Hey, I can get paid a little bit more

00:47:20.130 --> 00:47:22.630
doing the NIL. So I've enjoyed actually kind

00:47:22.630 --> 00:47:24.429
of the top end of college basketball. I've liked

00:47:24.429 --> 00:47:27.369
watching Michigan, Arizona, Duke, some of those

00:47:27.369 --> 00:47:29.530
teams. But that's why there's no upsets. Yeah.

00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:32.500
Well, I think this year there's kind of a clear

00:47:32.500 --> 00:47:34.940
10 to 12. I think we'll get back to seeing some

00:47:34.940 --> 00:47:38.579
of those 5, 12 type things. But I wouldn't be

00:47:38.579 --> 00:47:40.119
surprised if it was another year where the final

00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:42.440
four was one and two seeds only. I don't think

00:47:42.440 --> 00:47:44.400
we're going to see an eight. I think we've lost

00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:46.559
the day of the nine seed and below getting to

00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:48.699
the final four. I think we'll have a few of the

00:47:48.699 --> 00:47:51.079
knockoffs there. That was the fun of it, though.

00:47:51.219 --> 00:47:53.019
That was for the tournament part. But in terms

00:47:53.019 --> 00:47:56.019
of the six months of the regular season, I'll

00:47:56.019 --> 00:47:58.940
look forward to watching BYU versus Arizona.

00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:01.559
DeBonsa against Braden Burries. Count me in for

00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:04.199
that one. I'll watch that. I watched Oregon -Minnesota

00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:06.159
last night. Maybe I shouldn't have, but I did.

00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:08.420
I can't promise you I will stay up and watch

00:48:08.420 --> 00:48:11.719
them against Wisconsin next Wednesday, but that

00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:15.840
will be the next one on there. All right, well,

00:48:15.940 --> 00:48:19.139
this hour has come to a close. Enjoyed chatting

00:48:19.139 --> 00:48:21.320
some Oregon men's basketball, getting your up

00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:23.599
-close and in -person view from the Minnesota

00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:25.179
game last night. Well, I appreciate that. As

00:48:25.179 --> 00:48:26.980
I said earlier, always a pleasure having you

00:48:26.980 --> 00:48:28.840
on. I appreciate it. I'm looking forward to Friday.

00:48:28.940 --> 00:48:30.880
I'll be in for big bets, and we can talk all

00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:32.960
about my 4 -1 week. Did you guys talk yesterday

00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:34.440
about my 4 -1 week? I didn't get time for it,

00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:36.000
so maybe we should have done it today. I should

00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:37.519
have carved out more time in this one today to

00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.760
talk about. 4 -1 was only a—I took that dang

00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:43.860
Gonzaga or Santa Clara over Gonzaga upset. It

00:48:43.860 --> 00:48:46.260
didn't happen. Blaze won the week? Did he? I

00:48:46.260 --> 00:48:47.860
think Blaze won the week. Yeah, he's not on his

00:48:47.860 --> 00:48:49.380
head there. Did he win 4 -1 or 5 -0? Yeah, he

00:48:49.380 --> 00:48:52.380
went 4 -1. Oh, wow. Well, I'm proud. Okay, but

00:48:52.380 --> 00:48:56.460
hey, I've got 5 -0, 4 -1, 3 -2. I'm like 12 -3

00:48:56.460 --> 00:48:58.559
over the last few weeks. All right, I'll be back

00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:00.300
Friday for Big Bets. Danny's back in tomorrow

00:49:00.300 --> 00:49:02.840
with Justin and Stitch Head. This is Steve Mammoth

00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:04.119
filling in for Danny. You're listening to The

00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:06.420
Danny and Justin Show on Fox Sports Eugene and

00:49:06.420 --> 00:49:08.380
Fox Sports Newport.