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which lights up. This weekend, they're down in
the desert to take on Michigan to start out the
season. We'll talk to John at about 20 after
the hour, talk Super Bowl, talk a bad weekend
for Oregon athletics. Man, the softball team
kind of stumbled in Florida. Men's and women's
basketball, though, with gutty efforts, both
dropped games this weekend. And another game
to talk about tonight as the Oregon men take
on the Hoosiers of Indiana. But first, over there.
At the controls is intern Blaze. I'm Danny Howell.
They call me Doc. Right over here to my right
is Justin Grossner. We call him Baby J. 44 days,
Danny. 44 days until opening day. I knew it had
to do something with baseball. Absolutely. It
was going to have to do something with baseball,
and that's where we're at now. I mean, we're
obviously college basketball season, but we've
got NBA. Next on the docket is MLB. So when did
the announcement drop? I just saw it when I got
here into the studio and I turned the NBA channel
on. Or I guess it's ESPN talking about the NBA.
When did it drop that Damian Lillard is going
to be in the All -Star game shooting the three
-point contest? I think it was yesterday. He
posted about it. And I honestly didn't read the
post. I just saw that he was wearing the alternate
blue, like the carpet jersey. I don't know what
it's called. But I didn't read the caption. And
then I thought today that. He's going to be in
the three -point contest, which I thought was
amazing because I've never heard of a player
that's recovering from an injury, like a season
-long injury like that, that's out for the year.
And the only time we will see him is during the
three -point competition. Well, so what was interesting
is they were showing his top five flat -footed
three -point shots, which is trying to, I guess,
say that he doesn't even have to jump. Sure.
So that's why. But he's still got to run to a
spot. I mean, wouldn't you, honestly, okay, I
was going to say, if you're Joe Cronin, do you
really want him out there in a competition at
this point? You know, there must be a conversation
that's been had there, like, all right, Dame,
we get it. It's great PR for the franchise, awesome
PR for the league, because Damian Lillard is
one of those guys that he's not polarizing like
LeBron is. No. He's really not. I mean, Dame
time, you know, he pointed to his watch against,
okay. People just say that he's running from
the grind. But other than that, other than that.
I mean, he's got his little music career going,
too. Yeah, he's really good. I've seen him perform
in person. He's not bad at all. He's really good.
Yes, he actually has talent. I haven't seen him
perform in person. Yes, it was a surprise, actually.
I didn't know that was going to happen. And it
just brought him out. It was awesome. It was
in Portland. All right, so where did you watch
the Super Bowl? With mom? With my mom, yes. Okay.
Yes. So the Seahawks win their second Super Bowl
title. By the way, the Patriots did. set two
records in the game, in the loss. Not good ones,
I'm sure. Well, one was okay. Okay. It was their
record -setting 12th appearance. More appearances
than any other team in the Super Bowl in NFL
history. I think that's about as good as it gets.
Okay. But then they also, with the loss, set
the record for the most losses in a Super Bowl
because now they're 6 -6. So they tie Pittsburgh
with the overall championship wins in Super Bowl
history with six. But now they also have six
losses. And everyone, I was listening to some
of the national talk show hosts just banging
on Mike Vrabel that he coached scared and everything
else. How about this? How about you just say
Seattle had just a suffocating, swarming, incredible
defense and leave it at that? Well, can I just
say this? Sure. I think that Seattle played like
they knew they were the better team. And the
Patriots also played like they knew that Seattle
was the better team. And they knew that they
basically couldn't allow things to spiral out
of control, and so they just played pretty conservatively.
If you take a look at the first half, both teams'
defenses played really well. Listen, Seattle,
correct me if I'm wrong, kids, Seattle didn't
get into the end zone until midway through the
third quarter. Am I right or am I wrong? Actually,
it was the fourth quarter, wasn't it? Yeah, I
was about to say, I thought it was the fourth
quarter. And I think it was – Tarika was saying
on the national broadcast how long it's been
since there's been no touchdowns scored, and
the last time was only like what – or the latest
touchdown, which was like the Patriots -Rams
Super Bowl that was like 13 -3. And I was just
like, well, there you go. You said it. And sure
enough, like three plays later, touchdown. Yeah,
tomorrow. Yeah, that was basically the beginning
of the fourth quarter. But it was a 12 -0 blowout.
You know what I mean? That's a great way of putting
that, by the way. I really think that was the
case because – It did not feel like New England
was going to come back. No, and the Seahawks
knew that. That's why they didn't try anything
really spectacular on offense because they knew
they didn't have to. Did you feel, though, like
when New England got that second touchdown to
cut into making a two -score game that it was
going to be like, oh, here we go? Because there
was like 10 minutes left in the game. There was
enough time left in the game that I was like,
ooh. And then they got a punt. You're looking
at the ticker. Actually, I'm wrong. They got
the touchdown. Yeah. I mean, there was a moment
where it was like, okay, I'm not shutting the
game off. Right. I was about ready just to say,
okay, let's just watch the closer or, you know,
the next episode of Hijack or whatever. And then
I hung in there. I hung in there for a little
bit. Yeah. Okay. So the big bets, Cokewell, big
bets. The hosts won this week, and we got saved
by intern Dom. Very nice. I had a horrible weekend.
Basketball, and of course, I went against everybody.
I was trying to play chess, and I ended up playing
tiddlywinks because I was the only one to take
New England. But I was pretty close. I wasn't
close on the score. That was fair. Dom? I know,
that was wild. I was really surprised you took
New England. Listen, I had to try and make up
some times. I did. I'm not doing that again.
But we had, what, three overtime games in basketball?
It was a good weekend. It was a great, close
weekend of basketball games. Including an amazing
UNC -Duke game. Right. And I picked you and Goose
picked Duke, Dom and I, and I took Dom. I was
betting on Dom because I listened back to the
show, and Dom said it was such conviction when
it was time for him to pick. I was like, all
right, he's got to know more basketball than
I do, so I'm just going to go ahead and go with
him. Came home for you. We all picked BYU, including
Steve, one of our callers. Chris and Brad were
the only ones to pick Houston correctly. But
you went 2 -3. I went 1 -4. So we're both 8 -12
right now. We are looking up because we have
a six -game deficit against Goose right now.
We've got to catch him. He only went 3 -2. He
came back to earth after a 5 -0 week. Dom also
went 3 -2. But Goose, in Goose fashion, only
had 34 points. Dom had 40. So he won the tiebreaker.
Brad also went 3 -2. Recovery for Brad, nice
job, but he had 63 points. So Dom, thank you
very much. So $100 on behalf of us and Coquel
Casino and Resort going to South Coast Special
Olympics. We'll play it again this Friday. Very
nice. Classic 2 -3 from Justin. Have you literally
had nothing but 2 -3 weeks? I must have. You
have. Yeah, for four weeks. Four weeks in a row.
You've got to get off that schneid, buddy. I
don't know. I don't know what to do. I would
love to have had a two and three week this week.
All right, let's do it. We do a new thing now
on Mondays here. We call it Good, Bad, and Ugly.
So we talk about the good things that happen
on the weekend and the bad things and, of course,
the U -G -L -Y things. You want to start with
your good for the weekend? Yes, sure. Let's start
with Nate Biddle coming back. And he was... Pretty
much the Ducks' best player as well. He went
6 -14 from the field. Did not have a great three
-point shooting night. Only went one for eight.
But 10 -14 from the free throw line. And just
showed that, man, this guy is much needed for
this team. He's a great player. And he's going
to be, I believe, a very good NBA player as well.
So good on Nate Biddle for coming back. And we
didn't know if he was going to. You've been saying
it, though. And here he is. 14 points in the
first half, and they were right down to the edge
with Purdue. They got Indiana tonight. We'll
talk about that in the last segment. My good
would be under the lights in the Bay Area, Sam
Darnold winning a Super Bowl. Everybody out on
Sam Darnold, including yours truly. The 28 -year
-old has an NFL title to his name. He belongs
in the discussion for... perseverance if nothing
else his fifth team in eight seasons like a like
a trent dilferish type performance in terms of
very apropos not screwing things up for his team
and now he's got a ring 19 of 38 202 yards a
touchdown not sparkling not going to be an mvp
that went to the running back so you know good
on sam Honestly, good on Sam Darnold. And shame
on all those teams that turned on him and threw
him away. And look what he's done. The Jets,
the Vikings. The 49ers. Well, I'm just going
to tell you. Kyle Shanahan said that Sam Darnold
needs to go to somewhere and start. And it should
have probably been in San Francisco. He probably
should have stayed in San Francisco. I don't
know. Rather than paying Brock Purdy that amount
of money? I don't know. I'll do my bad next,
so the good, bad, the ugly, the Danny and Justin
radio program, the Judge John Warren going to
come up here, talk a little beaver basketball
and baseball coming up in just about 10 minutes.
Lindsey Vonn, she was defiant, said, I am going
to go ski in the Winter Olympics, even though
I am just recovering from an ACL injury and a
badly injured right knee, a badly injured left
knee and a rebuilt right knee. Well. Blew it
up on Sunday. Frightening crash left her with
a broken leg. She had to be airlifted. She's
out. Her career probably now done. That is just
bad and sad. It was. And my slight spin zone
to this is, so I actually didn't see the crash.
I read about it as much as anything. It was horrible
to read about, and I'm sure it was actually worse
to see. She lost control right after she got
out of the start house. What I understand, though,
this is my slight spin on it, and I'll say that
from what I understand, her doing that basically
was because she was absolutely 100 going for
it and she recognized that she couldn't just
take it easy out of the gate like she had to
push herself to that level and so i think good
on her for going out like that if you're gonna
go out go out trying to do run through the wall
don't walk into it and so obviously not the way
you want to end your career but i think that
i i commend her at least a little bit for going
out and pushing herself the way that she did.
All right, Baby J, what's your bad of the weekend?
My bad was the entire game of the Super Bowl.
That was the worst Super Bowl I've ever watched.
It's not even close, I don't think. Really? Worse
than the Rams -Patriots 13 -3 Super Bowl? At
least I felt like both teams could win that one.
I actually thought the Rams could win that one.
When did you get the sense that New England was
finally done? When it was like 12 -0. Oh, 12
-0. I was like, yeah, I think that this is probably
it. No, it wasn't 6 -0. I mean, at one point
it just was like, well, if the Patriots can get
a touchdown, then it's a one -score game again.
But you never felt like they were going to score
a touchdown. They didn't get to over half field
until I think it was the fourth quarter. They
had four first downs going into the fourth quarter.
I'm not disagreeing with you. I just like getting
you lit up is what I like to do. I'm pretty lit
up about this because there was no good quarterback
play. That's not interesting. to watch the stakes
of the game good for seattle you want a super
bowl nobody else cares if there is no stakes
for any major quarterback what do we care about
in nfl we care about our team winning and we
care about how many super bowls does patrick
mahomes have and where we rank him and how does
tom brady stack up with everybody else now and
of course he's probably the goat but that sam
donald winning a super bowl that doesn't do anything
He's not about to win four Super Bowls and become
a great quarterback. I still like the story.
I don't even think that we can sit there and
say, I'm glad he didn't have a great game, by
the way, because we don't even have to sit here
today and say, well, maybe Sam Darnold's an elite
quarterback. Nope, he wasn't. It turns out that
their weapons are really good. He's really solid.
He's probably somewhere in the 10 to 15 range.
And he had a great defense. And the defense is
what won him the game. He's a Trent Dilfer, a
Joe Flacco. He's a serviceable quarterback. He's
a serviceable quarterback. Which is fine. He
can make a great living as a serviceable quarterback.
Just to finish off my point, is I think that
the circumstances of the game, the fact that,
again, New England knew that Seattle was the
better team. Seattle knew that Seattle was the
better team. Nobody was really trying to be aggressive.
And that was an issue with the visual entertainment
of the game, which there was none. The Danny
and Justin radio program on the number one sports
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for tuning in. John Warren, the judge, coming
up from Cajo Radio in just a few moments. All
right, since you're on a roll, I'm going to let
you go ahead and do the ugly. The ugly. The commercials.
Even worse than the game. I actually wrote down.
I have a feeling you didn't have a really good
time on Sunday. I had a good time. My mom and
I were on the same page. Anytime I'm with somebody
on the same page, if I'm watching a bad movie,
whatever it is, it's fine. So I wrote down the
four commercials that weren't horrendous. Because
by default, I thought the commercials were just
really bad. Formula was just throw a bunch of
celebrities out there and you'll do it. Okay.
The Kurt Russell, Michelob Ultra commercial where
they were skiing. I thought that was pretty good.
I didn't hate it. Well, you know why they brought
that back? Because he was kind of reprising his
role as. as her brooks miracle right okay the
hockey right in lake plaza i thought it was good
i thought it was pretty solid uh my mom didn't
hate the liquid death commercial which i can't
really remember but I think Liquid Death has
some of the worst branding ever. Why do you want
to be called Liquid Death if you're a drink?
I don't know. It doesn't make sense to me. The
Uber Eats commercial with I have MM and BC, which
I don't remember who those celebrities are at
the top of my head right now. But I think there
was an Uber Eats commercial that was pretty decent.
And then so I thought the TurboTax commercial
with Adrian Brody was kind of funny. But, you
know, it didn't work because my mom was like,
what was that commercial for again? And I was
like, oh, it was State Farm. It didn't even give
you a good example of what it actually was selling.
You know what I'm saying? So how could it be
a good commercial? Commercials are bad. I didn't
pay attention to a lot of the commercials. I
paid attention to some of them. Probably did
yourself a favor. I did myself a favor. My ugly,
as we wind up the good, bad, and the ugly here
on the Danny Justin Radio Program, is the vitriol
on social media for the Bad Bunny Halftime Show.
I mean, he delivered a third. Listen, I don't
speak Spanish. But you don't have to speak Spanish
to enjoy the music and dance around, man. I was
in my chair. I was doing a little chair dancing,
man. I was chair dancing. I thought it was fantastic.
I think it was high energy. Like I said, my daughter
speaks a little Spanish. She understands some
of it. I did not. 13 minutes got everybody up
and going. And he had a few other tricks. Of
course, Lady Gaga coming up with a salsa -fied
version of Die With a Smile. That was awesome.
And I think the salute and saying, we're all
America. Puerto Rico, and he named other. All
the countries in North and South America. Right.
I thought it was awesome. I thought it was great.
I thought it was the only part about the game
that actually felt like a Super Bowl. And to
have people coming out and bashing him and saying
he's un -American and all that, it was just,
to me, it's just like, come on. Really? And you
know what he did? He came out there, and he wasn't
divisive. He gave them nothing to complain about.
You could sit there and say, would I have liked
to understand what he was saying a little bit?
Absolutely. I also don't speak Spanish. So would
that maybe have been good to have some subtitles
there? I wouldn't have hated it, to be honest
with you. But I also find that what he did, I
don't see how, based on what he actually did
in his performance, he chose the high road. You
can't complain about the way he handled that.
Yeah, especially him crashing through. The roof
down through, that was a pre -can thing. That
looked awesome. It was great. The cinematography
was awesome. So I'm just saying all of that,
I probably could have put him in the good category
as well. But unfortunately, when you started
reading all the hate that was getting spat out
over it, it just keeps amplifying the divide
that's still in this country. We are not a political
program. We are not going there except for this.
Except who that is and what they were doing.
because that is artistic. That's artistry. Celebrate
that. That's what we should be celebrating in
this country. And that's a guy that has not caved
into having his music in English, by the way.
He wants to do it in his native tongue. So there
you go. That's the good, bad, and the ugly here
on the Danny and Justin radio program. All right,
so we've got a lot still to get through. We've
got a lot of... basketball to get through because
Oregon men's and women's were on the floor this
past weekend. So are Oregon State men's and women's.
Softball was at the NFCA Opening Classic in Clearwater.
Did not turn out very well. They went 2 -3. We'll
talk about that in the last segment. But we're
going to take a break, and we are going to head
to John Warren, the judge. So the Beaver baseball
team is highly ranked. They're anywhere between
7 -12 in the country. But basketball, the women's
team, has got an inside track to the WCC regular
season title. The men have been showing some...
some sparks of life under Wayne Tinkle. We'll
talk about all of that with the judge from KGO
Radio, John Warren, next on the Danny and Justin
Radio Program. Thanks for tuning in, friends,
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It's the Danny and Justin Radio Program on Fox
Sports Eugene, Fox Sports Newport, live from
the Bigfoot Beverages studio. Coming up in a
moment, we'll talk about the Ducks' loss. to
the Buckeyes in women's basketball. The men falling
short against the Boilermakers. Ducks men play
tonight. It'll be on FS1 530 as Oregon takes
on Indiana. But first, head on over to the Oregon
Man Colleges hotline at 541 -343 -5673 and welcome
in our good friend... As court is in session,
it's his honor, the judge, the honorable John
Warren, joining us from KGO Radio 1240. You can
listen to him up there in the Corvallis Albany
Market. He knows everything, Beavers. He is going
to forget more about Oregon State than Justin
and I will ever learn combined. And he joins
us right now. Did you say Newport, Fox Sports
Newport? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I like the idea that
I can be heard in Newport. You are. You are.
Right now, being heard, all the ships at sea
are listening to you right now. Well, hello to
all my friends in Newport. I don't have any,
but hello anyway. You're going to make some right
now, John. First off, did you even care about
this Super Bowl? Yeah, because we carry the Seahawks
on our station. Okay. So you didn't care. It's
the second year. Prior to that, I hated the Seahawks
because I grew up in Portland. I grew up in Portland,
and we had the Mariners and the Seahawks rammed
down our throats, and I hated it because I'm
very loyal to my civicness, if you know. So,
you know, the Blazers and Sonics were such a
great rival for so many years of my life. And
then we had to deal with the Seahawks and the
Mariners, and I was jealous as a youngster, a
kid, that we didn't have the pros. And so I'm
like, forget that. I'm going to go find a different
team. I found other teams to root for, and the
Cardinals have been my team since 1974. Uh -oh.
I know. See, I've been keeping this from Justin
for a while, John, just telling you. Justin's
a Cardinal fan? No, he's a Cubs fan. Oh, no,
I'm talking about the football Cardinals. Oh,
okay. Sorry. That's fine. That's fine. Okay.
Yeah, yeah. We got off on a wrong track there.
We went to different sports all night, and we
hear Cardinals, and all of a sudden our Cubsdom
comes out. I understand that the football Cardinals
aren't really recognized. Not at all. The judge,
John Warren, joining us. Let's talk basketball
first. Wayne Tinkle Squad, kind of a Jekyll and
Hyde team this season. They string a couple of
games together. We're just like, wow, I think
they got it going. And then they drop. Of course,
Gonzaga was just loaded for bear when they came
into Gillicoliseum on Saturday. They drop a 20
-point game to No. 6 Gonzaga. But is this a team
that could shock? people like they did a few
years ago in the conference tournament and make
a run in the NCAA tournament? Or is that just
wishful thinking? No, no. No, they won't. I will
say that I mentioned this on our show today that
I was really pleased because it was so fun to
be in Gill with it full. That only happened last
year when they played and beat Gonzaga. So that
was fun. And then here we are. It was full again.
That was great. The atmosphere was electric.
The fan base was into it. And there were 10 lead
changes all in the first half. And it was, what,
four -point game at halftime. And then the Beavers
hung around. And around the last six or seven
minutes, the better team pulled away. Yes, it
was 20. But it wasn't until really the end. And,
I mean, there's. nothing there's no shame in
losing to the sixth ranked team in the nation
when you're a 500 team and they have a guy like
Graham E .K. who is so good yeah and there's
no shame in that especially when you play them
straight up for about two -thirds maybe a little
more than that three three quarters of the game
and then they eventually pulled away because
of uh you know smart moves coaching wise but
also just great talent Yeah, and to your point,
if you just want to take a look at the stat lines,
so this stat line would normally be okay in a
game, except for I'm going to tell you the other
stat line. Oregon State shoots 44 % from the
field, 55 % from three, and that's 10 of 18.
That's just like taking five shots. They were
only 13 of 18 from the free throw line, left
a few points there. They only turn it over nine
times. But, wow, look at that stat line. I had
to look at it twice. Gonzaga only turned the
ball over twice. in a game. That's incredible.
And like you said, and you're right on, they
were coming in off of losing to Portland, and
it was only their second loss of the year overall,
and a lot of things, streaks were snapped and
all that, and they were not going to be denied.
And, you know, you usually take a team's best
shot in the first 10 minutes, but Oregon State,
hang right. with them. They were down 38 -34
at the half, but they got a cheap call. I will
say that. They're better, but they got a cheap
call with 1 .2 seconds left in the half, and
EK got to go to the free -throw line and stretch
it to 38 -34, when really it should have been
36 -34. Coming out in the second half, you could
kind of tell they were going to make some moves
and pull away, but the Beavers still kind of
hung tough. And then they stretched it out and
took advantage of some weaknesses inside. And
you knew it was going to be. But you just looked
at the score, 81 -61, that's a blowout win. But
it wasn't like that. And for the way that the
Beavers have played this year, losing to teams
they shouldn't lose to or losing ugly, I liked
everything I saw. And they lost to a far better
team. And Josiah Lake, he's a guy that just obviously
one of the – Leaders on this team, he basically
leads the team in almost every category. He's
one of those things, though. He's a junior, and
usually in the past it's been like, okay, you
get another season of Josiah Lake, you can see
what he does when they build some other pieces
around him. But, you know, how much concern do
you have about just being able to bring a guy
like that back for another season? Well, he wouldn't
be going anywhere as far as any draft goes. So
in a normal world, he would come back. And things
are not normal, as we all know, because of the
portal and money. And who knows? So I don't know.
He's a former walk -on. And, you know, he's the
favorite of the fans because he's been here for
four years. He may have another year of eligibility.
But he's been here for a while and is kind of
the old -fashioned model of sticking with the
ball club. But, like you say, one never knows.
And in this day and age, guys, I know we're all
in the business of sports shows. I'm going to
just be straight up with you. It's not the same.
It's just not the same anymore. The more I hear
the stories of guys getting millions, the more
I hear. jumping from school to school, the more
I see it with Oregon State and how they're trying
to keep players and how they're trying to come
up with money. They've got like two, two and
a half million or whatever it is for basketball.
Well, Gonzaga has five million. They barely have
five to seven million for football from what
I hear. I don't really know which isn't going
to compete. You got I mean, where's all this
money coming from for all these schools? And
I am so jaded by it all. I mean, I hate to dump
on your. your show here with all this, but you're
not. I just can't think of players, to Justin's
question, I can't think of players anymore through
the lens of keeping a guy or whatever. It's so
seedy to me. I hope you understand what I'm saying.
Oh, absolutely. So I think there was a quote
from UConn head coach Gino Arama. I think it
came out this weekend. where people were talking
about $100 ,000 for this player, $200 ,000, $300
,000. He says, well, you know what? If they're
employees, can I fire them if they not perform
on the court for four or five games? If they
want to be employees and they're not going to
go, can I just fire them? And it brings up an
incredibly interesting point, don't you think?
Yeah, and it keeps coming up over and over again,
and it's a theme on our show sometimes. Especially
when Mike's out of town. I take up on it. I don't
even try to. I'm like, okay, I've got to stop
complaining and shaking my fist at the clouds.
I can't help it. Another story will come up about
some unclearness in the system. And, well, we're
not sure about this. And then everyone's saying,
well, we need more guardrails. Well, you know
what? Every time that some person or entity goes
and makes a guardrail, An athlete takes it to
court and wins. You don't hear about it because
it happens within days. They win, and you can't.
The NCAA or leagues can't put the brakes on stuff
because the courts keep saying you can't restrict
the players. You can't restrict the players.
Well, here's the problem, and I've been saying
this for a long time. The NCAA and the schools
think. That this is all still, that student -athlete
is still a part of this. They're not. These are
pros. So the problem is that the mindset is you've
got one foot in academics, student -athlete,
and are they eligible? And the other foot in
paying these guys or these players. You can't
have it that way, and that's why there's so much
confusion over eligibility, over dollars, over
where the money comes, all of that, until one
leg comes out of academics and they say, okay,
everybody's pros, now we deal with it that way.
You know, even the pros have, and it's because
of collective bargaining, which means there's
representation, which is not happening in the
college. Even the pros have limits on free agency.
In college, there's no limits. They come and
go as often as they want, and it is unsustainable.
It's just when is a collapse going to happen.
No one thinks that way. I know that sky is falling,
and I'm being real dramatic about this, but I
have seen sports go from this beautiful thing
that college sports was to not even the pros.
They're stuck in this weird middle ground where
it's all crazy. crumbling around us while these
kids are making a ton of money before they're
even 22 years old. And some kids are not good
enough to make it in the pros, but they're really,
really good college players. Getting a couple
of million dollars, I would say, son, stay in
college as long as you can because you're probably
not going to make that money in the pros. Yeah,
that is the reasonable voice of the judge, John
Warren, from KGO Radio 1240 up there in the Valley.
It's Corvallis, Albany area. You can listen to
him on the Joe Beaver Show. It goes from 11 to
1 every weekday. When Mike Parker's in town,
he's there with him. Otherwise, it's John as
well, and he joins us here on the Danny and Justin
radio program. And, Judge, it's already started
to happen in college basketball with players
that have been drafted or gone through the draft
process. going back and playing college basketball.
Have you heard about this latest theory that,
hey, maybe this could happen in the NFL where
a guy, he's maybe expected to be a late -round
pick but goes undrafted and decides to go back?
At that point, it's just going to come down to
some ruling by some judge. It's kind of getting
to this place of the Wild West. Well, it's funny
because we, on that issue alone, you know it's
bad, guys, when you joke about something and
a few weeks later it comes true. We literally,
remember when the G League players went to Louisville?
And I think that neither one of them have made
it, and they're gone by now. But a month or so
ago, these two guys that were playing in the
G League, meaning they're getting paid, and they're
dealing with a pro team. And Matt had even gone
through the NBA draft or free agency to get onto
a team that then puts them on the G League team.
So they're pros. And they went to Louisville,
and that was a big deal. Well, at that point,
we were joking on the show. That was this sports
season. We're joking on the show. Well, why don't
we just bring back Steven Jackson? He can be
a running back for us. Or Matt Moore can quarterback
the Beavers. And yet, and yet, now to what Justin's
talking about, it's coming true. you know there
is a major, major problem. The biggest problem,
though, I don't know about you guys, but I don't
say this in an egotistical way. I say this in
a way of just being a guy. I kind of think of
myself as your average fan, average. I know there's
much more that are into it and much less that
are into it. I'm just your average guy, right?
And I'm like, I don't... Personally, in my personal
time and all that, I'm like, I don't really care
anymore. I have to know this stuff for my job.
But personally, I'm like, I don't really care
because who am I rooting for? There's no more
tradition. There's no more this. There's no more
that. It's all collapsed. Well, if I feel like
I'm average, then what's happening around the
rest of the fan pool that are not crazy nut jobs
who really love... sports but are just kind of
you know they're into it the way it's always
been there's got to be a lot of people who are
kind of thinking twice about spending that extra
ten thousand dollars for tickets which keep going
up while this system collapses they keep charging
more right i mean i worry about the sport overall
not just 10 years from now but just five years
from now John Warren joining us on the Danny
and Justin radio program. This is great discussion.
We're not going to have a lot. I'm going to have
to bring you back after the season starts. We
wanted to talk a little baseball, but we're running
out of time in this segment. But I do want to
ask you a couple of questions because they do
start this weekend and quite a schedule in Surprise,
Arizona. Surprise. We always like saying it like
that. Michigan, Arizona, Stanford, and Michigan
again before they head down to Round Rock. This
is the same kind of schedule they had last year.
Baylor, Southern Miss, Purdue, Houston. Alabama,
Iowa, and then they play Oregon. Man, out of
the gates, Mitch Canham's squad. I mean, you've
got up there in Corvallis probably one of the
best four -player rotations in a pitching staff
that I've seen for quite a while with Dax Whitney,
Isaac Yeager, Ethan Kleinschmidt, and Eric Segura.
Is that wholly the strength of this team? No,
they've got – actually, they go deeper than that
with their arms, honestly. They got a kid, Mason
Pike, out of Washington who was everything in
Washington. And we had Aaron Fitt from D1Baseball
.com on our show. He brought up Mason Pike as
a guy that's absolutely on the national radar.
One guy that – there's been so much talk about
all those guys except for Yeager. When he came
up as an All -American in – I don't remember
the publication, oh, Writers Association. I literally
said to Mike, who's that guy? Because I didn't
even know. There's so many other pitchers. Now,
offensively, they're not worried about it. They're
not going to hit as many home runs, but they've
got a ton of speed. In fact, more speed than
they've ever had, according to Mitch. And they've
done a really good job. We've heard a lot, I
would just say, in the last three weeks. about
more than just pitching, that there is some offense
on this team. But power hitters, probably not
so much this year. I mean, Yeager, 6 '6", 255.
out of seattle washington and that that is a
that's a randy johnson type although he throws
from the right randy johnson type of uh of pitcher
and he's not even the best pitcher on the on
the staff that's that's what's crazy about that
so is this is this really i mean it could be
overstating it is this really the test mitch
canham wants though out of the gate to see where
his team is right away he's not soft peddling
this season oh no they'll pick on anybody um
Anytime. They put together, I think they put
their own schedule together when it comes to
surprise. Round Rock is, I think, somebody else's
tournament. And they just go and play whoever
they're in there with. And I think the other
tournament is the same. I don't know that for
sure. I could be wrong. I do know that they do
surprise and control it. But they don't care.
They'll take on anybody. Because especially...
a second and hopefully final year of independent,
they cannot, they have to take whoever they can
get. And they did a really good job last year,
but they did a better job this year, going from
18 home games last year to 28 this year. And,
you know, pretty good competition as far as the
home schedule goes. But, no, they are ready to
take on anybody, anytime, anywhere, and they're
very confident in this team absolutely getting
back. to the world series, which they did last
year with, again, a lot of home runs and some
great players, but they feel like they're not
filling huge, huge holes. They're just, they're
not too worried about it. Yeah. I want to dive
into the power a little bit because. Like you
said, they're not bringing back the power hitters
that they had last year. And I think that we've
seen in Major League Baseball and college baseball,
that three -run homer can win you a game if you
have great pitching. All it takes is one swing
at that point. Do you have concern? Obviously,
it's about getting to Omaha. Small ball also,
at times, can be very conducive in a postseason
-type environment. But how much concern do you
have in a postseason series, in a one -game type
of series, where you don't have necessarily that
type of power? Oh, not at all. Not at all. Because
a lot of teams are, believe it or not, they're
surprised by small ball now because the pros
forget it. And the colleges kind of look at the
pros. I am shocked at how far small ball has
fallen from just the days of Pat Casey, which
is... six years, maybe seven years now since
Pat's been retired. I guess that's longer than
I think for me. I don't know what time goes by
so fast for me. I say, oh, it was just yesterday
we were doing this. And someone will say, no,
John, that was five years ago. But the Beavers
were in a series last year. I don't remember
the game of the series. And they went small ball,
bunting and moving guys in just this small stretch.
and it was the first time they had done it in
a while. It completely threw the other team.
I think it was in the series with Florida State,
and it paid off. Yeah, it was in the series with
Florida State. It paid off, and they won as a
result of it. And I remember their coach kind
of bringing it up like, well, you know, we didn't
expect that and all that. I was like, what do
you mean? And now I remember my memory thinking
that Pat Casey was just yesterday because that's
all that we ever saw was. Small ball worked to
perfection. If anybody on the roster did not
know how to bunt, you didn't play. And in just
six or seven years, that all went away, and the
colleges are a lot like the pros, that shocks
me, even though it probably shouldn't because
I've been watching it now for all these six or
seven years. And Oregon State is very well versed
in small ball. Yeah, well, of course, Mitch Catt,
I'm a disciple of Pat Casey, so it makes sense.
Judge, we're going to let you go. Much more to
talk about baseball -wise. And then as we get
towards March Madness, we can start talking about
what it looks like for that on both the men's
and the women's side. Looks like Oregon State
could possibly be in that picture as well for
the NCAA tournament. So we'll bring you back
when we've got that on the docket. And we always
appreciate your insight up there in Corvallis.
You're the best. Well, I appreciate that. Sounds
good. Again, I just want to say hi to all my
new friends in Newport. Go out and buy it. John
will be open for beverages and photos down there
on the dock down in the bay shortly. There you
go. Thanks, John. Take care, buddy. All right.
There he goes, the great judge, John Warren,
from KJO Radio, 1240 AM. Again, you can listen
to him on the Joe Beaver Show right before our
show, 11 to 1 on the 1240 Joe Radio. You can
hear it down here. It's scratchy, but you can
still hear it. Or you can also go online, just
like you can go online with us. Fox Sports Eugene,
Fox Sports Newport. When we come back, Stephanie
Maake gets a big Grand Slam home run. Runs, though,
were at a premium for Oregon softball this weekend.
Turnovers kill the... The Lady Ducks against
the Buckeyes. Nate Biddle returns against the
Boilermakers. All of that, we're going to cram
it in in a couple of minutes next on the Danny
and Justin radio program. If you missed any of
our interview with the judge, John Warren, go
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and Justin radio program is on all of the pod
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it were. I call them streaming platforms. They're
probably not that. That's probably my age, not
knowing all this newfangled stuff. You're fine.
You're fine. Thank you. I'll try. So, Nate Biddle
scores a game -high 23, grabs five rebounds.
We touched on it right at the beginning. Oregon
couldn't overcome a cold shooting stretch as
number 12, Purdue, holds on 68 -64 at Mackey
Arena. The Ducks are now 8 -15, 1 -11 in the
Big Ten, and it doesn't get any easier. They
take on Indiana tonight, 5 -30 on FS1. 44 % from
the field for the Ducks shooting, but they only
shoot 5 of 25 from 3. Can I call my shot? Sure.
I think this is the one. Okay. I think this game
against Indiana. Didn't I want to see them at
least do one? Get one win? Well, get one of those
ones that somebody would go, yeah, they're not
going to win that game, and put it in the win
column. I think this is it. This is me calling
my shot. Nate Biddle back. Let's see what happens.
You got a 50 -50 shot at it. Hoosiers lead the
series three games to two, and they've won the
first three. Oregon's won the last two, two in
a row, including last year's win, 72 -59 in Indianapolis.
So they go back to Indianapolis and take on the
Hoosiers tonight. Oregon women, tough, tough
game against the Buckeyes. They were slugging
it out, but it was exactly as Coach Graves said
on the program Friday, is the Buckeyes will speed
you up. And that's what happened to the Ducks
several times. They commit 23 turnovers, which
is right on where Ohio State has forced their
opponents to do all season long. And a four -game
win streak goes bye -bye. 80 -64 loss to the
Buckeyes. Ducks are now 6 -7 in Big Ten, 18 -8
overall. And Coach Graves said that turnovers
killed them. Fast break points killed them. Ari
Long hit four three -pointers, 16 points. Mia
Jacobs, Sarah Rambis, East Corps, 13. Ahisa Tutte,
Katie Fiso were held to a combined. 13 points
on just four or 15 shooting. I mean, literally
you get those two to hit what their season averages
normally are. Ducks win the game by four. Yeah.
And Ohio State, I think, you know, one of those
games, I think they're just the better team.
It wasn't even, there wasn't one point in the
game where I think Ohio State like went on a
huge run or anything like that. They had a 10
-0 run that opened up a lead in the first quarter,
but then the Ducks started chipping away at it.
They only won that quarter, you know, by. by
four right they only won the most a quarter by
by five so it wasn't like there was one quarter
where they really killed the ducks like that
third quarter against illinois where they just
completely fall flat but just one of those games
where the ducks just weren't the better team
and they definitely competed but overall like
you know you just can't win them all yeah ohio
state went on a 14 -3 run in the final quarter
to open up their biggest lead at 70 -49 it was
just all over for the shouting as, again, Ari
Long, 16 points, Mia Jacobs, 13, Sarah Rambis,
13, the only players in double figures. All right,
so let's go to softball. Stephanie Maake, it's
a grand slam as Oregon defeated Liberty to start
off Saturday, played 10 -2, but that was the
highest point for the Ducks in the rest of the
weekend as they drop the last two games, including
a 4 -2 decision to Southeastern Louisiana, which
one stings. That one stings a little bit. That
one's a little surprising. Elise Sokolski and
Taylor Spencer kept the Lions off the scoreboard
through four innings. and the Ducks ran into
trouble in the fifth again. It seems like that's
where it's happened. Maddie Millhorn came in
throughout the final two innings, struck out
three, only allowed one hit. They now go to the
brand -new Stanford Stadium for the Cardinal
Classic February 13th through the 15th. That's
this weekend. They'll play Cal State Fullerton,
Kentucky, Cal Poly, and host Stanford. They're
now two and three on the season after the trip
to Eddie Moore Complex in Clearwater. It's not
the start you wanted, but I think that it's a
timing sport. So they competed with the good
teams. It wasn't like these were blowouts or
anything like that. They did lose the games.
And the last one certainly is a surprise against
Southeastern Louisiana. But I'm just not concerned
yet. I'm just not. We knew that this team was
going to be different. We knew that they were
going to have some more power, less speed. They
need to be able to generate runs. So you can't
bat 244 and expect a win. No, you can't. So they
beat. missouri in the opening game three nothing
they lose a one run game to clemson the second
game lose two nothing to tennessee in the third
game and then what i would expect oregon to be
like for the rest of the season is what they
did against liberty yeah they they wrap out 13
hits they win 10 -2 they have great pitching
they even fell behind right well that was the
deal was they basically they fell behind in the
fifth inning and i'm checking on this game and
i check back and it's like six to one i'm like
oh like okay like i guess they figured it out
and then it was 10 to you know 10 to 2 so so
the the ducks again on the road still you'll
not see uh version 8 at jane sanders stadium
until the end of this month they'll be back against
stetson on february 27th they'll have four games
at home they have a nice little home stretch
at the jane hopefully the weather will cooperate
And then they'll be back on the road for a few
games. And then it will be Big Ten play. I mean,
it's right around the corner for baseball and
softball. Baseball starts this Friday against
George Mason. We talked about the Beavers are
going to be down in Arizona for that tournament.
So we're going to have that crossover. No more
football now. You got football out of your system?
I think, I mean. There's always recruiting, Danny.
We will always talk about football here on the
Danny and Justin radio program. We also give
you a nice dad joke. Oh, a joke. I got fired
from the bank today. A woman asked me to check
her balance, so I pushed her. Dad jokes. All
right, boys. This one's for you too, Blaze. You're
not going to answer it out loud, but you're going
to just give me the rolling eyes, producer Blaze.
Which bathroom appliance would be the worst life
preserver? Which bathroom appliance would be
the worst life preserver? I don't know if this
technically qualifies as an appliance, though.
Well, it would be the sink. Yeah, I guess so.
See, I'm not sure that's an appliance. I think
we need a judge's ruling on whether or not that's
actually an appliance or not. You know what an
appliance to me is? It's something that has an
operation on it. Like, you know, you can... You
can turn it on and off. You can do the temperature
or, you know, it has a light on it or something
like that, right? Yeah. That would be an appliance
to me. Yeah, it's not an electronic thing, right?
Yeah. It's just plumbing. All right, so I need
to talk to the writer of the dad jokes. We're
going to have a conference after. We're going
to have a production meeting with the dad joke
writer. Do we know what we're doing tomorrow,
by the way? I'm going to try to get on Travis.
I think it might be a good day for him. Travis
Demers, the mayor of Rip City. They had a nice
win the other night. Two games in a row now.
So two games under, three games under 500? Three
games under 500. We'll talk to the mayor hopefully
tomorrow. So come on back tomorrow at 2 p .m.
right here on the Danny and Justin Radio Program.
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God bless. Put a smile on your face. They deserve
it. So do you. Peace.