WEBVTT 00:00:02.790 --> 00:00:05.370 It's a weekend Eve, the Danny and Justin radio 00:00:05.370 --> 00:00:08.849 program. Thanks for tuning in friends. If you 00:00:08.849 --> 00:00:11.589 miss us live, you can always go back to the podcast, 00:00:11.650 --> 00:00:13.650 wherever you pot at Danny and Justin, wherever 00:00:13.650 --> 00:00:15.449 you find your music is the way Justin says it 00:00:15.449 --> 00:00:17.489 to me. Cause most people don't listen. Well, 00:00:17.489 --> 00:00:20.730 there's, there's, there is a, I will call it 00:00:20.730 --> 00:00:24.250 a little bit. No, it's not a majority of people 00:00:24.250 --> 00:00:26.870 to listen to podcasts. No. My point is that there's 00:00:26.870 --> 00:00:29.399 some younger people. Because when we were talking 00:00:29.399 --> 00:00:31.079 about this, we were talking to a younger person. 00:00:31.140 --> 00:00:32.979 I was like, if you don't pod, which I know that 00:00:32.979 --> 00:00:35.119 some younger people don't, you've got to get 00:00:35.119 --> 00:00:37.119 it wherever you get your music. It's just another 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:39.460 way to tell people. I'm trying to win them over 00:00:39.460 --> 00:00:41.359 one at a time. And if you miss us, you're also 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:43.700 going to miss Travis Demers, the mayor of Rip 00:00:43.700 --> 00:00:45.700 City, who joins us now on the Oregon Man Clinics 00:00:45.700 --> 00:00:49.100 Hotline at 541 -343 -5673. He's got a podcast. 00:00:49.399 --> 00:00:52.929 He does. It is what? Section 113. Section 113. 00:00:53.030 --> 00:00:55.590 I actually listened to it. Yes, it's very, very 00:00:55.590 --> 00:00:58.090 well done. And we always love having Travis on. 00:00:58.170 --> 00:00:59.469 Mayor, we're not going to talk about the stuff 00:00:59.469 --> 00:01:02.950 on the court first. The trade deadline now passed, 00:01:03.090 --> 00:01:06.650 and Portland not unexpectedly didn't make a ton 00:01:06.650 --> 00:01:10.109 of moves, but they did make one move with Veit 00:01:10.109 --> 00:01:12.510 Krejci. And so I guess I'll ask you this right 00:01:12.510 --> 00:01:17.230 off the bat. Do you like it? I love it. I thought 00:01:17.230 --> 00:01:21.879 it was a great deal. The trade deadline the last 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:24.140 few years for the Blazers has pretty much gone 00:01:24.140 --> 00:01:29.099 just like this. There's no need to really do 00:01:29.099 --> 00:01:30.920 anything right, but there's no pressure. And 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:34.760 if a deal didn't present itself that was going 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:37.219 to help the team, there was no point in doing 00:01:37.219 --> 00:01:40.180 it. There was nothing that said you've got to 00:01:40.180 --> 00:01:42.700 do something right now. So the one trade they 00:01:42.700 --> 00:01:45.459 did make, nobody wanted to see Dwaparith go, 00:01:45.620 --> 00:01:49.740 and then he was waived by the Hawks today. Everybody 00:01:49.740 --> 00:01:51.480 loved Watt. He's an awesome guy to have around, 00:01:51.620 --> 00:01:52.980 but he was hurt. He wasn't going to play the 00:01:52.980 --> 00:01:55.540 rest of the year. His contract was up after this 00:01:55.540 --> 00:01:59.819 year. So you trade him, and you get back a guy 00:01:59.819 --> 00:02:03.400 who can be an immediate help in areas of need. 00:02:03.680 --> 00:02:05.359 I mean, Pete Krejci is an elite three -point 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:08.599 shooter, 42 % on the year. He's a 6 '8 guard 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:11.139 who can defend and do multiple things, and he's 00:02:11.139 --> 00:02:13.599 under team control for the next few years on 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:17.479 a minimum deal. I mean, to me, like, that's... 00:02:17.710 --> 00:02:19.650 That's a perfect trade for if you're looking 00:02:19.650 --> 00:02:23.030 at a small trade. I don't know that there could 00:02:23.030 --> 00:02:26.210 have been a better move than that on that type 00:02:26.210 --> 00:02:30.849 of deal. So Krejci comes in shooting 42 % from 00:02:30.849 --> 00:02:34.009 beyond the arc. ESPN gave it an A -minus, said 00:02:34.009 --> 00:02:36.689 it was a B for Atlanta. Not really too concerned 00:02:36.689 --> 00:02:39.909 about the picks, but this doesn't relieve or 00:02:39.909 --> 00:02:43.770 doesn't relieve some of the pressure on a hobbled 00:02:43.770 --> 00:02:46.560 Denny Advia. because he's been missing games 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:49.659 as of late, and five in January. He's less than 00:02:49.659 --> 00:02:53.800 100 % right now on this six -game road skin that 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:57.360 the Blazers are on. So you said it's going to 00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:00.259 inject something. Is that part of it offensively? 00:03:01.620 --> 00:03:04.379 Yeah, but honestly, guys, I don't think this 00:03:04.379 --> 00:03:07.379 is a move that matters for right now. I don't 00:03:07.379 --> 00:03:09.560 want to dismiss the current, right, because this 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:11.539 is where we're all living right now in the present, 00:03:11.639 --> 00:03:14.080 and the present sucks right now. Six -game losing 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:16.479 streak, Denny's hurt, you're going the wrong 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:19.520 way. Like, nobody wants to see that. But, you 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:22.439 know, that's... That's not what really matters 00:03:22.439 --> 00:03:24.319 right now. What matters is getting Denny Abdiah 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:26.240 healthy. I don't know if he's going to play again 00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:28.400 before the All -Star break. I would love to see 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:29.919 him play again before the All -Star break because 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:32.379 this team needs him. But what's more important 00:03:32.379 --> 00:03:35.379 is that he is healthy as the rest of the season 00:03:35.379 --> 00:03:38.120 goes. So, yeah, if we're looking at right now, 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:40.639 does this inject some life? Yeah, it does because 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:42.460 you've got a guy immediately who comes in and 00:03:42.460 --> 00:03:44.780 is your best three -point shooter. But in the 00:03:44.780 --> 00:03:48.419 big picture... When this team continues to grow 00:03:48.419 --> 00:03:50.680 the rest of this year, next year, the year after, 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:53.680 you've got a guy with some size, athletic ability, 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:56.300 smart basketball player, can defend, and can 00:03:56.300 --> 00:04:00.259 knock down threes. And, you know, he's a 3 and 00:04:00.259 --> 00:04:03.139 D guy off the bench who's 6 '8 and can play, 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:05.819 you know, three different positions. So while, 00:04:05.900 --> 00:04:07.979 yes, it absolutely injects something in right 00:04:07.979 --> 00:04:10.860 now, this is the kind of guy that you really 00:04:10.860 --> 00:04:13.689 need in terms of depth. And it's funny because 00:04:13.689 --> 00:04:15.409 he didn't actually come into the league as a 00:04:15.409 --> 00:04:17.170 great three -point shooter, so he's got some 00:04:17.170 --> 00:04:19.110 of the other qualities as well that made him 00:04:19.110 --> 00:04:21.029 an NBA player, but now he is this great three 00:04:21.029 --> 00:04:23.490 -point shooter. And he's Slavic, so I love him 00:04:23.490 --> 00:04:25.970 already. There you go. And so not a lot of movement 00:04:25.970 --> 00:04:28.269 for the Blazers, this one little trade, but how 00:04:28.269 --> 00:04:30.990 much of it— Giannis is still out there, and maybe 00:04:30.990 --> 00:04:33.949 the Blazers don't end up with Giannis, but they 00:04:33.949 --> 00:04:36.889 have the three bucks picks. How much do you think 00:04:36.889 --> 00:04:38.769 the lack of movement had to do with the fact 00:04:38.769 --> 00:04:40.990 that maybe the Blazers are going to be involved 00:04:40.990 --> 00:04:43.149 and want to set themselves up to be involved 00:04:43.149 --> 00:04:46.689 whenever the Giannis trade does happen? I don't 00:04:46.689 --> 00:04:48.290 think that has anything to do with it, to be 00:04:48.290 --> 00:04:52.569 honest. I mean, they might. You know, the last 00:04:52.569 --> 00:04:55.110 year, yeah, last year at the trade deadline when 00:04:55.110 --> 00:04:58.100 the Blazers didn't do much. Joe Cronin said, 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:01.439 he's like, look, in years past, we didn't do 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:04.319 things at the trade deadline. But the foundation 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:08.160 that we set in conversations with teams in January 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:11.540 and February is what led to deals getting done 00:05:11.540 --> 00:05:14.160 in June. And specifically, he mentioned the Denny 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:19.180 Obdia trade and the Jeremy Grant trade. So just 00:05:19.180 --> 00:05:22.579 because no moves were made this week doesn't 00:05:22.579 --> 00:05:25.879 mean that. Those conversations haven't led to 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:28.220 something that could happen in that next transaction 00:05:28.220 --> 00:05:31.500 window around the draft. And I didn't think Giannis 00:05:31.500 --> 00:05:34.000 was going to get traded this week anyway. There 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:38.019 was no pressure by the teams that wanted to acquire 00:05:38.019 --> 00:05:41.879 him. The pressure was all on Milwaukee. So now 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:44.579 in the summertime, that's a different story because 00:05:44.579 --> 00:05:46.500 Giannis is going to be on an expiring deal and 00:05:46.500 --> 00:05:49.379 now there's pressure on everybody. But I don't 00:05:49.379 --> 00:05:52.689 think that the Blazers are... Looking at that 00:05:52.689 --> 00:05:54.350 and saying, okay, we're going to hold on to the 00:05:54.350 --> 00:05:56.889 Bucs picks because we want to be in a deal with 00:05:56.889 --> 00:06:00.790 the Bucs. I don't think there's any urgency whatsoever 00:06:00.790 --> 00:06:02.850 to trade those picks because if you think about 00:06:02.850 --> 00:06:06.569 it, if Milwaukee continues to try and rebuild, 00:06:06.889 --> 00:06:10.629 which is very clearly what they're doing, the 00:06:10.629 --> 00:06:16.310 28 and 30 picks, whichever way, two picks and 00:06:16.310 --> 00:06:18.529 two swaps, right? Those are going to be really 00:06:18.529 --> 00:06:22.259 valuable. And if they don't... Use that in any 00:06:22.259 --> 00:06:24.540 trade now or even next year or even the year 00:06:24.540 --> 00:06:27.740 after that, and we get closer to the 2028 draft. 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:30.819 And the Blazers are in a position where they 00:06:30.819 --> 00:06:33.680 feel they're one player away. Now you've got 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:38.980 some really valuable stuff in the immediate future 00:06:38.980 --> 00:06:41.959 to use as currency that other teams will not 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:44.600 have. And that could be the difference between 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:49.209 when they are close. making a deal to put them 00:06:49.209 --> 00:06:51.930 over the top by using some of those bucks picks 00:06:51.930 --> 00:06:54.850 down the road. So there's no, there's no rush 00:06:54.850 --> 00:06:58.189 to use those. If anything, you know, it's, it's 00:06:58.189 --> 00:07:00.829 smarter in a lot of ways to hold onto them because 00:07:00.829 --> 00:07:03.449 you're, you're not close to getting over the 00:07:03.449 --> 00:07:05.569 top. And that could be the difference between 00:07:05.569 --> 00:07:07.269 getting over the top and not. So if that makes 00:07:07.269 --> 00:07:10.050 sense, I don't think it has anything to do with, 00:07:10.050 --> 00:07:11.750 with the honest deal at all. I think the Blazers 00:07:11.750 --> 00:07:14.079 are looking at this in a situation that We are 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:16.220 trying to make our team better to be able to 00:07:16.220 --> 00:07:18.819 compete for a championship within the next, you 00:07:18.819 --> 00:07:21.180 know, two, three, four, five years. And there 00:07:21.180 --> 00:07:23.500 was nothing that was available right now that 00:07:23.500 --> 00:07:27.060 did that. Voice of the Trailblazers, Travis Demers 00:07:27.060 --> 00:07:29.180 is with us on the Danny and Justin radio program. 00:07:29.259 --> 00:07:32.300 It's a Thursday and a lot of guards were traded. 00:07:32.459 --> 00:07:34.579 Certainly Chicago Bulls had no problem collecting 00:07:34.579 --> 00:07:37.860 a lot of them, including a former Blazer, Anthony 00:07:37.860 --> 00:07:41.180 Simons, who I think that this is just my opinion. 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:44.019 If you look back at the trade that. The Blazers 00:07:44.019 --> 00:07:46.220 did trade away Anthony Simons. I think it's aged 00:07:46.220 --> 00:07:47.699 pretty well getting a guy like Drew Holiday, 00:07:47.819 --> 00:07:49.879 who his contract's pretty large, but he's under 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:51.579 a multi -year contract, clearly is still a valuable 00:07:51.579 --> 00:07:55.100 player, whereas now the Celtics basically got 00:07:55.100 --> 00:07:57.959 him for a guy in Vucevic who's a solid player, 00:07:58.100 --> 00:07:59.860 but it's an expiring contract. It wouldn't have 00:07:59.860 --> 00:08:01.839 been something that the Blazers would have been 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:04.699 good for them. So do you think that trade away 00:08:04.699 --> 00:08:09.860 for Anthony Simons has aged well? Yeah, I loved 00:08:09.860 --> 00:08:12.000 it at the time, and I still love it. And even 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:15.240 if Ant had stayed with the Celtics and re -signed 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:18.399 there and got a max deal there, even if any of 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:22.199 that had happened, I love Ant. But Ant's role 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:25.560 in this league is exactly what it was in Boston. 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:28.660 A guy who's coming off the bench, who can knock 00:08:28.660 --> 00:08:31.970 down threes, make some plays, be that... spark 00:08:31.970 --> 00:08:34.269 plug, microwave -type guy off the bench, and 00:08:34.269 --> 00:08:36.769 that's what he is. And what you got back, and 00:08:36.769 --> 00:08:38.610 yes, to your point, Drew Holiday is a big contract, 00:08:38.850 --> 00:08:44.889 but this team has a very manageable salary situation, 00:08:45.230 --> 00:08:47.129 and I don't think there's any issue with Drew 00:08:47.129 --> 00:08:50.090 Holiday having a big contract. And the games 00:08:50.090 --> 00:08:51.649 that he has played, you know, of late, he has 00:08:51.649 --> 00:08:53.210 struggled a little bit, especially turning the 00:08:53.210 --> 00:08:54.950 ball over, but there's a number of games early 00:08:54.950 --> 00:08:57.690 in the season that, you know, they don't win 00:08:57.690 --> 00:09:00.809 if he's not there at the same time. I see what 00:09:00.809 --> 00:09:04.230 he does behind the scenes. And while Scoot has 00:09:04.230 --> 00:09:07.210 been out for the first, what, 51 games of this 00:09:07.210 --> 00:09:09.230 season, and hopefully his return is imminent, 00:09:09.350 --> 00:09:12.990 it sounds like it is, Scoot has been able to 00:09:12.990 --> 00:09:15.629 sit with Drew Holiday and Damian Lillard and 00:09:15.629 --> 00:09:18.370 learn from those guys and watch with those guys. 00:09:18.629 --> 00:09:21.169 And I know some people might think I'm crazy 00:09:21.169 --> 00:09:24.649 for this. I think Scoot projects as the kind 00:09:24.649 --> 00:09:26.350 of guy who's going to be the backbone of your 00:09:26.350 --> 00:09:32.460 team. to have that tutelage from one of the best 00:09:32.460 --> 00:09:35.559 leaders in sports in Drew Holiday for 51 games, 00:09:35.700 --> 00:09:40.340 even if that was only it, to me that's worth 00:09:40.340 --> 00:09:42.399 the trade in itself. But that isn't only it. 00:09:43.320 --> 00:09:46.500 Travis, who got better? There were a lot of teams 00:09:46.500 --> 00:09:48.779 that made moves. Several teams made multiple 00:09:48.779 --> 00:09:51.740 moves. Who got better in this trade deadline? 00:09:53.019 --> 00:09:58.070 That's confusing. Huh? No, so getting better 00:09:58.070 --> 00:10:00.409 might have been setting yourself up for the possibility 00:10:00.409 --> 00:10:02.870 as well. Not necessarily wins and losses for 00:10:02.870 --> 00:10:04.350 the rest of this year, but that could factor 00:10:04.350 --> 00:10:07.309 into it. But also taking into account that, and 00:10:07.309 --> 00:10:10.570 I'm sorry I paused there, is getting better because 00:10:10.570 --> 00:10:12.909 you're looking towards the future. You're saying 00:10:12.909 --> 00:10:15.970 I'm either banking draft picks, I got rid of 00:10:15.970 --> 00:10:19.549 bad contracts, and now I'm kind of lifting the 00:10:19.549 --> 00:10:22.070 lid and being able to get better in the next 00:10:22.070 --> 00:10:25.919 couple of years. Yeah, I think there's a couple 00:10:25.919 --> 00:10:30.080 of teams that I think if you put it in that context, 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:33.960 I think Memphis did a great job because they 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:37.539 needed an overhaul. That team, while they had 00:10:37.539 --> 00:10:41.960 stars, was never going to go anywhere. So they 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:44.279 got a lot back for Jaron Jackson Jr. And you 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:46.279 go back to the Desmond Bain trade over the summer 00:10:46.279 --> 00:10:49.440 where they got four first -round picks from Orlando. 00:10:49.539 --> 00:10:52.029 They have stockpiled a... Both load of picks 00:10:52.029 --> 00:10:53.929 from those two deals. Unfortunately, they still 00:10:53.929 --> 00:10:57.909 have John Morant, and nobody wants him. But they 00:10:57.909 --> 00:11:00.110 have a couple of young players that they want 00:11:00.110 --> 00:11:01.470 to build around, and I think while it's going 00:11:01.470 --> 00:11:04.210 to be a rough couple of years for Memphis, they 00:11:04.210 --> 00:11:06.509 have put themselves in a position to have a future, 00:11:06.610 --> 00:11:10.629 and I don't think they did before. The Jazz are 00:11:10.629 --> 00:11:12.450 surprising because of the moves that they have 00:11:12.450 --> 00:11:16.769 made to not be a bottom feeder. which I think 00:11:16.769 --> 00:11:18.889 the expectation from everybody was that, okay, 00:11:18.929 --> 00:11:21.029 the Jazz are tearing this down. They're going 00:11:21.029 --> 00:11:22.610 to trademark it and they're going to do all this 00:11:22.610 --> 00:11:25.789 stuff and, you know, build it back up. No, no, 00:11:25.830 --> 00:11:27.769 they are not. They added Jaron Jackson Jr., who 00:11:27.769 --> 00:11:30.929 I'm not a huge fan of, but a lot of people are. 00:11:31.029 --> 00:11:33.129 And that team now has so much size. You've got 00:11:33.129 --> 00:11:35.350 Keontae George, who is showing to be a really 00:11:35.350 --> 00:11:38.429 good lead guard to go along with all those front 00:11:38.429 --> 00:11:40.710 court players and lengths. I thought that the 00:11:40.710 --> 00:11:42.909 Clippers kind of retooling a little bit as well, 00:11:42.950 --> 00:11:45.500 because. You know, James Harden wasn't going 00:11:45.500 --> 00:11:48.440 to be around forever. Kawhi's not going to be 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:52.100 around forever. So you get a young guard in Darius 00:11:52.100 --> 00:11:53.860 Garland, who's been an all -star a couple of 00:11:53.860 --> 00:11:57.620 times. You know, I think that helps their future. 00:11:57.779 --> 00:11:59.360 I think Cleveland certainly helped themselves 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:04.059 in the short term. The Knicks really needed another 00:12:04.059 --> 00:12:07.000 defensive player off the bench, and they got 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:09.960 Jose Alvarado. The Bulls tearing things down 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:14.419 a bit, building for the future. that you kind 00:12:14.419 --> 00:12:18.679 of look at and say, hello, McFly, anybody home? 00:12:19.240 --> 00:12:21.899 It's the Sacramento Kings. Yeah, they did make 00:12:21.899 --> 00:12:24.500 a couple of deals, and they got rid of a couple 00:12:24.500 --> 00:12:27.360 of guys. But, like, you still have DeMar DeRozan 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:30.960 and Zach Levine on that roster, and it's like, 00:12:31.019 --> 00:12:34.159 what are you doing? Come on, butthead, hello. 00:12:34.539 --> 00:12:39.690 It's like, I just, I'm. I don't understand. They 00:12:39.690 --> 00:12:41.990 want to be the 2022 Chicago Bulls, obviously. 00:12:42.549 --> 00:12:44.750 Yeah, because they were so good. Yeah, they were 00:12:44.750 --> 00:12:46.909 really, really good. Don't forget. I think it's 00:12:46.909 --> 00:12:48.409 pretty obvious Sacramento is one of the worst 00:12:48.409 --> 00:12:50.110 franchises in the league. Quick aside before 00:12:50.110 --> 00:12:52.090 I get to my other question. Is it the rebounding 00:12:52.090 --> 00:12:53.690 with Jaron Jackson Jr.? Is that why you don't 00:12:53.690 --> 00:12:58.110 like him? That's part of it. I just, I don't 00:12:58.110 --> 00:13:00.789 know. I mean, he's a good player, and I don't 00:13:00.789 --> 00:13:02.309 think it's fair to say that I don't like him. 00:13:02.350 --> 00:13:05.850 He's a good player. He is. Obviously, Defensive 00:13:05.850 --> 00:13:07.389 Player of the Year, really good defensive player. 00:13:08.330 --> 00:13:10.669 I don't trust his outside shot. I just don't 00:13:10.669 --> 00:13:12.850 think he's the star that you build around that 00:13:12.850 --> 00:13:14.730 a lot of people do. I just think he's a good 00:13:14.730 --> 00:13:18.090 player. That's fair. So it's interesting now. 00:13:18.190 --> 00:13:20.029 A lot of the teams you talked about, it's funny, 00:13:20.149 --> 00:13:22.269 right below the Blazers in the standings, the 00:13:22.269 --> 00:13:24.269 Grizzlies right below them, Utah a couple spots 00:13:24.269 --> 00:13:26.779 below. I don't think Utah's... Like you're saying, 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:28.799 they're clearly not just tearing it down, but 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:30.779 they're not close enough to get in the play -in 00:13:30.779 --> 00:13:33.440 conversation, in my opinion. The Clippers, I 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:35.779 think that they're probably going to be worse 00:13:35.779 --> 00:13:38.220 now. I think it might have been fairly even with 00:13:38.220 --> 00:13:40.559 just a Garland for Harden's swap, but the Zubox 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:43.019 move is clearly insane. I don't get that one. 00:13:43.220 --> 00:13:44.639 Yeah, that one's interesting. They did get a 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:46.600 lot from the Pacers, though. The Pacers, I mean... 00:13:46.959 --> 00:13:49.259 possibly could be giving him a pick between six 00:13:49.259 --> 00:13:52.000 and nine. So for this season, and if not, it'll 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:54.960 be a 2031. But I'm just curious now, we kind 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:56.580 of talked about this before, but now even in 00:13:56.580 --> 00:13:59.600 the Warriors made a move for Porzingis, who may 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:01.360 or may not play a lot for them, depending on 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:03.740 his injury situation. But has this sort of cemented 00:14:03.740 --> 00:14:07.059 the Blazers in the plan for sure? And how do 00:14:07.059 --> 00:14:08.259 you feel about those matchups? Like, because 00:14:08.259 --> 00:14:09.940 those are the teams that the Blazers are probably 00:14:09.940 --> 00:14:12.000 going to play. And I feel like they have a decent 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:15.529 chance of coming out of that. Yeah, I agree. 00:14:15.690 --> 00:14:18.389 I don't know that it cements the Blazers, but 00:14:18.389 --> 00:14:21.649 it certainly puts them in a position where if 00:14:21.649 --> 00:14:25.889 they do their job, they'll be in. And Scoot's 00:14:25.889 --> 00:14:27.730 supposed to come back pretty soon, like we talked 00:14:27.730 --> 00:14:30.149 about. Hopefully Denny, after the All -Star break, 00:14:30.230 --> 00:14:33.450 if not before then, will be his self. They'll 00:14:33.450 --> 00:14:37.649 figure things out. I think that the last 25 games 00:14:37.649 --> 00:14:39.230 of the season or so, I think they're going to 00:14:39.230 --> 00:14:42.840 be in a good spot. They will have opportunities 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:44.700 there. And, you know, who knows, right? They 00:14:44.700 --> 00:14:46.220 move up those standings a little bit. But you 00:14:46.220 --> 00:14:48.039 look at the teams in the West that they could 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:50.600 be playing in that play. And if they're in that 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:53.899 9 -10 range, it's probably going to be the Clippers. 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:55.700 It would be much better to have that game at 00:14:55.700 --> 00:14:58.340 home. But, yeah, they'd have a great chance to 00:14:58.340 --> 00:15:00.639 win that game. Golden State, they've already 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:04.220 shown they can beat them. The Warriors didn't 00:15:04.220 --> 00:15:06.799 really give up anything of note because they 00:15:06.799 --> 00:15:10.779 weren't playing Kaminga. And Buddy Heald. hasn't 00:15:10.779 --> 00:15:13.659 really played this year. So they add Porzingis, 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:16.320 and he'll go in and start when he's healthy immediately 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:18.200 for them. He's really versatile, and I think 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:23.139 that's a good move for them. But that's an aging 00:15:23.139 --> 00:15:27.379 team that has a lot of health concerns. You know, 00:15:27.379 --> 00:15:31.580 Phoenix is also in there. So, yeah, I think there's 00:15:31.580 --> 00:15:33.519 absolutely an opportunity for the Blazers to 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:35.759 do something. And if they get into the play -in, 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:37.720 even if it's at the 9 or 10 spot, I do think 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:40.940 they can. win two games and get into the playoffs. 00:15:41.460 --> 00:15:46.200 But it really depends on them, how healthy they 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:48.799 are, if they can continue that health and if 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:50.840 they can start clicking with all those guys coming 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:54.340 back because you're going to be in a situation 00:15:54.340 --> 00:15:57.559 here real soon where guys who have been playing 00:15:57.559 --> 00:16:01.299 big minutes for you aren't going to be for one 00:16:01.299 --> 00:16:04.759 reason or another. they've got to figure out 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:06.980 what the best lineups are and who plays the best 00:16:06.980 --> 00:16:08.980 together. And that'll be a challenge because 00:16:08.980 --> 00:16:12.179 I don't think there's a huge delineation between 00:16:12.179 --> 00:16:16.379 guys 4, 5, and 6 and guys 10, 11, and 12 on the 00:16:16.379 --> 00:16:18.200 roster right now. That's a good thing to have. 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:22.440 It means you have depth. But you want to have 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:26.539 some guys that have separated themselves to be 00:16:26.539 --> 00:16:29.159 able to play. And I don't think that's had an 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:31.509 opportunity to happen yet. Travis Summers, you 00:16:31.509 --> 00:16:33.450 can follow him at Travis Summers wherever you 00:16:33.450 --> 00:16:36.470 have your social media. He's also the co -host 00:16:36.470 --> 00:16:39.169 of the Section 113 podcast. You can subscribe 00:16:39.169 --> 00:16:41.909 to that. And he is the voice of the Trailblazers, 00:16:41.950 --> 00:16:43.669 the mayor of Rip City, joining us on the Danny 00:16:43.669 --> 00:16:46.970 and Justin radio program. So, Travis, is it more? 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:50.820 Injury or chemistry that's been part of the problem 00:16:50.820 --> 00:16:54.940 in these last six games for the Blazers? As they've 00:16:54.940 --> 00:16:57.480 been on a slide, they got themselves above .500, 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:00.559 then all of a sudden, wow, and a couple of just 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:04.119 puzzling losses in this stretch. So your assessment? 00:17:05.220 --> 00:17:07.779 My answer to your two -part question is yes, 00:17:07.940 --> 00:17:11.339 because when you don't have your best player, 00:17:11.420 --> 00:17:13.220 you're not going to be the same team, right? 00:17:13.769 --> 00:17:16.589 But then when you're bringing guys back who haven't 00:17:16.589 --> 00:17:18.670 played a whole lot and you're trying to integrate 00:17:18.670 --> 00:17:20.930 them into a group of players who have had chemistry 00:17:20.930 --> 00:17:23.769 now for 30 games or so, there are going to be 00:17:23.769 --> 00:17:25.569 some adjustments. And Justin brought that up 00:17:25.569 --> 00:17:28.829 last week. That's going to happen, right? So 00:17:28.829 --> 00:17:32.390 also players who have gotten used to, like Caleb 00:17:32.390 --> 00:17:34.250 Love, right? Caleb Love's gotten used to playing 00:17:34.250 --> 00:17:36.509 a boatload of minutes at 21 points against Cleveland. 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:39.220 Next game comes back against Phoenix, he plays 00:17:39.220 --> 00:17:41.180 eight minutes off the bench and goes 0 for 2 00:17:41.180 --> 00:17:43.539 and doesn't score. Well, he didn't all of a sudden 00:17:43.539 --> 00:17:47.079 just forget how to shoot threes. He is in a different 00:17:47.079 --> 00:17:49.119 role and in a different flow, and it's something 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:52.680 that's an adjustment. So, you know, roles change. 00:17:52.900 --> 00:17:55.480 You ask role players to play starter minutes, 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:57.460 and they have to adjust to that. And then you 00:17:57.460 --> 00:17:59.359 ask them to play role player minutes again, especially 00:17:59.359 --> 00:18:01.779 for a rookie who doesn't have a massive sample 00:18:01.779 --> 00:18:04.480 size of either. You know, there are going to 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:06.329 be some things in there that... They have to 00:18:06.329 --> 00:18:08.410 figure themselves out. And Blake Wesley coming 00:18:08.410 --> 00:18:11.509 back into the lineup. Veit Krejci doesn't know 00:18:11.509 --> 00:18:14.150 where to be on this team yet. And watching his 00:18:14.150 --> 00:18:16.910 spacing, you know, going to the corner when Tumani 00:18:16.910 --> 00:18:18.970 Kamara was already there, it's not because either 00:18:18.970 --> 00:18:20.869 one of them are not smart basketball players. 00:18:20.910 --> 00:18:22.730 It's because they haven't played with each other 00:18:22.730 --> 00:18:25.690 yet. And those are all things that have to, you 00:18:25.690 --> 00:18:28.369 know, get worked out. And when you've had injuries, 00:18:28.569 --> 00:18:31.509 when Denny is out, when Scoot comes back, there's 00:18:31.509 --> 00:18:33.519 going to be... Some similar things there, too. 00:18:33.700 --> 00:18:37.460 So I think it's all of the above. Memphis comes 00:18:37.460 --> 00:18:39.460 into town. They'll be at the Moda Center tomorrow 00:18:39.460 --> 00:18:42.339 night. It'll be at 7 p .m., and Travis will be 00:18:42.339 --> 00:18:46.099 on the call right here on one of the Blazer audio 00:18:46.099 --> 00:18:50.980 networks, Fox Sports Eugene. So, Travis, next 00:18:50.980 --> 00:18:54.680 road trip is going to be where now? Help me out. 00:18:55.660 --> 00:18:58.059 Quick. So we have three more games in this homestand, 00:18:58.119 --> 00:19:00.740 Memphis, Philly, and then a quick. two -game 00:19:00.740 --> 00:19:02.799 back -to -back trip right before the All -Star 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:06.900 break at Minnesota, at Utah, and then the All 00:19:06.900 --> 00:19:09.279 -Star break. So five more games before the All 00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:12.660 -Star break, quick trip in some cold -weather 00:19:12.660 --> 00:19:14.279 places because we haven't had enough of that 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:16.279 in the last couple of weeks, and then we get 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:19.940 to chill for a while. All right, so you can watch 00:19:19.940 --> 00:19:23.299 a couple of seasons of it now. Hijack. Yes. I 00:19:23.299 --> 00:19:26.299 was trying to tell you guys about this. We watched 00:19:26.299 --> 00:19:29.599 it. Apple TV. Is it Apple? It's Apple, right? 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:31.519 Yes, it's Apple. Apple TV. Okay, hijack. Yeah, 00:19:31.579 --> 00:19:33.039 is this the one that I said I didn't want to 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:35.180 watch on the plane? You probably don't want to 00:19:35.180 --> 00:19:37.119 watch on the plane. No, you absolutely want to 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:38.359 watch it on a plane. The first season is about 00:19:38.359 --> 00:19:42.380 a hijack of a plane. Yeah, no, look, I already 00:19:42.380 --> 00:19:44.460 hate flying and assume I'm going to die every 00:19:44.460 --> 00:19:46.200 time the plane takes off, so I don't need to 00:19:46.200 --> 00:19:49.660 add any fuel to that fire. So I will watch that 00:19:49.660 --> 00:19:52.839 in the comfort of my home. All right, so here's 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:54.519 the thing. Then I will give you one other that 00:19:54.519 --> 00:19:56.299 has nothing to do with planes. I don't know if 00:19:56.299 --> 00:20:00.410 you like Jennifer Garner or not. But here it 00:20:00.410 --> 00:20:04.430 is. The last thing you said to me. First season 00:20:04.430 --> 00:20:06.049 has dropped. They've renewed it for a second 00:20:06.049 --> 00:20:09.190 season. It has a very interesting twist in the 00:20:09.190 --> 00:20:12.490 middle. And the first season has totally dropped. 00:20:12.630 --> 00:20:20.400 And that is Netflix. Okay? Which show? The last 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:22.880 thing you said to me. Sorry, that's the name 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:26.180 of the show. Who's on first? That's exactly what 00:20:26.180 --> 00:20:27.599 I was thinking. Okay, yeah, okay, the last thing. 00:20:27.619 --> 00:20:29.140 Okay, what does that have to do with the last 00:20:29.140 --> 00:20:30.799 thing I said to you? I assume I'm going to die. 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:35.140 Travis was trying to think. That's the name of 00:20:35.140 --> 00:20:36.960 the show. Travis was like, what did I say to 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:39.460 him last? I don't know. This is great radio. 00:20:39.539 --> 00:20:41.380 This is why we love having you on, Travis. The 00:20:41.380 --> 00:20:43.640 last thing you said to me is the name of the 00:20:43.640 --> 00:20:48.299 show. Yeah. Okay. That sounds interesting. It 00:20:48.299 --> 00:20:51.859 is. I can't even give away even part of it because 00:20:51.859 --> 00:20:55.880 the first episode is kind of like it really smacks 00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:58.799 you in the face. It's pretty awesome. Just by 00:20:58.799 --> 00:21:00.420 the name of the title, it sounds like somebody 00:21:00.420 --> 00:21:02.660 who died and somebody who's thinking about the 00:21:02.660 --> 00:21:04.299 last thing that was said to them. I don't know. 00:21:04.819 --> 00:21:08.539 Maybe. Okay. Maybe. All right, buddy. Maybe not. 00:21:08.619 --> 00:21:11.500 Or they were kidnapped or by aliens or something. 00:21:11.720 --> 00:21:13.799 I am not giving anything away. Just watch it. 00:21:13.839 --> 00:21:15.799 You can watch Hijack at home. Don't watch it 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:18.630 with your kids, though. Okay? Yeah, that's probably 00:21:18.630 --> 00:21:20.390 not a good idea. They don't need to be thinking 00:21:20.390 --> 00:21:22.269 about that either. No, not at all. All right, 00:21:22.289 --> 00:21:23.890 bud, have a great call. Always love having you 00:21:23.890 --> 00:21:25.930 on. Stay safe. Try and get some rest tonight, 00:21:26.029 --> 00:21:28.250 all right? Thanks, guys. All right, there he 00:21:28.250 --> 00:21:31.170 goes. Great Travis Demers, voice of the Blazers. 00:21:31.529 --> 00:21:33.549 Come back on a weekend eve, wrap up the show. 00:21:33.569 --> 00:21:35.589 Still a lot to talk about, but, you know, I'm 00:21:35.589 --> 00:21:36.930 not going to say we're going to have it in any 00:21:36.930 --> 00:21:38.650 particular order because that's not the way we 00:21:38.650 --> 00:21:40.769 do things here. We could talk more shows. I mean, 00:21:40.789 --> 00:21:44.109 I know you said hijack, but we actually have 00:21:44.109 --> 00:21:46.150 several more that we're going to throw out there, 00:21:46.210 --> 00:21:47.750 and I want to talk to you. Maybe we'll fill that 00:21:47.750 --> 00:21:50.650 in into the last part of the program as we continue 00:21:50.650 --> 00:21:51.869 here. Danny and Justin for Thursday.