We officially started I have a question for everybody.
Okay. I would like for you to try and answer
this question Before I finish asking the question.
Okay, okay If you could be an animal for a day,
what would it be? Okay, who's going first? No,
you're too late. You should have gone. Oh, I
should I should have answered it already dolphin
That I would be a cat what color cat It's important.
What kind of cat? Oh, it's the house cat. I would
be a house cat too, but I would be a pitch black
house cat so that I could hide in the shadows.
Any cat can hide in the shadows. It doesn't matter
what color they are. They're just so good at
hiding. Not my cat. Just because your cat's too.
I like that they shift and move. Yeah. Why would
you choose a house cat? So I would be a house
cat because they can get through a lot of different
things, like in and out, and so you can come
and go without being seen. And sometimes that
just seems like a really nice thing to be able
to do, just kind of slither out the back door
without anybody really noticing. Tough questions,
honest answers. Oh, the messy truth. Your perspectives.
Let's begin. Welcome to Kaleidoscope. Hi, I'm
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I'm joined by Luigi. Hello, I'm Luigi, and I
want to believe. And Diane Reiser, spiritual
advisor, medium, intuitive empath, and owner
of Oak and Tusk Guidance. Welcome, Diane. You
know, I'm Diane Reiser and I create chocolate
often. Diane, you have a perspective and opinion
to share with us today. Yeah. So I actually came
with a different perspective, but this month
and the last few weeks, the word why has been
coming to me immensely. And the power of why.
If you think about what that word can do for
you. It's it's very powerful. Meaning if you
don't understand something. Why get you an answer
if you if someone isn't giving you enough information
and you need more but they don't want to give
it to you the question of why can't i have that.
Starts a drilling into what's going on if you
talk about like therapy a lot of therapists will
have you do why. Why why why why why to get to
the root of causes and i do that also when i
work with my spiritual team and with my mic.
Is why is that happening so the word why and
i had a. I used to work for a German company
years ago, and my boss told me, because I was
very frustrated with not getting things done,
people not giving me answers, and he said, start
asking the word why. When people cannot answer
the word why, that's a red flag, because authentic
people and authentic situations will always have
an answer. I like it. That's a good take. I know
Ruby and I are thinking of the same person and
we're thinking of the why question. There's someone
we know in our lives. We could not ask why or
we could but we could never get an answer and
you know, when you say they're being authentic
and talking about authenticity, wow, it hits
the nail on the head. Spooky. I've never met
someone so disingenuous in my life, but you know
what? She helped me discover my authenticity.
Yeah. Well, and that's the thing is through my
work and as I continue and grow, you can see
patterns. And you start to see like, oh, when
people don't do this in general, it means this
in general. It might not be the exact... Truth,
but it it gives you enough red flag when you
start seeing the similar things Right that you
go. Okay, that's that type of situation, but
also people come to us As they need to as we
need them to bring change to our lives or highlight
something in our lives So whenever I go through
our times and I'm not sure what like What's gonna
happen? I start asking why? And I ask my higher
self, I start reading into it. But if you allow,
you can pretty much get the answer because we
all know ourselves pretty well. It's just that
our ego sometimes doesn't like what we know.
And so if we're... I feel like you can do a lot
of why questions and you'll back yourself right
into the answer. Why do you think... Why do you
think our egos get in the way? That's a good
question. Asking why? I think it's just how we're
raised. Because if you think of a kid, kids don't
really have egos. They don't have problems asking
questions. They don't typically have issues with
dressing silly or being silly, right? Yeah. But
when you start getting in school, we start getting
locked into little boxes, right? You can't do
this for this reason. You can't all the things.
And so all of that changes us. You remember that
you're talking to teachers, right? But it's true.
It's true. You are also right because you have
to work within a confinement. You can't do probably
what you would really like to do to teach. Yes.
Yeah. And it sounds negative. That like it kind
of seems like we're you know repressing kids
or whatever But it's it's I don't know. It's
like a nest I hate to admit it like it's a necessary
evil like order is necessary Yeah, absolutely,
but it does take it's a it's a give -and -take
though, right? And so yeah, it is necessary.
I mean, I'm a one of six kids and so Six kids
you got to keep them in line. You know, there
has to be some boundaries So but that is why
I mean it does if it's if you're not and the
United States also remember with our education
system has really gotten really bad over since
even I was a child so and they've gotten really
restrictive in the way they teach them creativity
and dig into those things. So I think depending
on your environment, but it really is you have
to start growing up to be a big person and society
requires certain things. I'm going to play devil's
advocate in this because I don't like the way
that schools are set up because I think that
we've been conditioned to think that the structure
is so important. I can concur. Some level of
structure is required for the sanity of all.
But I think that the way that classes have been
set up and the way that kids are divided and
the way that the school system is divided is
to structure. It's been over scaffolded because
it's set up like a factory to create, to package
little sausages to go into the workforce and
be all exactly the same little sausage and just
do their work. I saw this with my own eyes. I
hear what you're saying. Well, and I can give
you an example because my kid, two sons. And
one is very outgoing and very much into the social
scene. And the other one is an introvert, but
he's very creative and sensitive. One can work
in that environment. One is affected by that
environment severely. So I believe that just
as humans, we're all different. And so we have
different needs. And fortunately, with the school
systems, you can't like set up a different need
for each child really. It's not efficient probably.
So like when I did homeschooling, I was able
to do that. So I was able to teach one way with
one child and just basically give the books and
let the other one figure it out. Cause that's
what he liked to do. And then come to me with
questions because that's his style. And both
of them were extremely successful, but in their
own way. But that's having to pull them out of
the system. But I do think structure is what
causes us to lose some of that looseness. Yeah.
And I'd say education does try to account for
that dynamic. I think that all teachers are somewhat
aware of it, even if that teacher becomes jaded
and stringently sticks to all structures in a
way. It's because they've been frustrated by
not, by trying to be. It's the reason why. You
know because if you think about it going back
up right, so let's go to that jaded person Why
are they jaded? probably because I didn't get
to be the creative teacher and all the things
that they really set out to be at one point and
a little by little by little those little things
are taken away from them and So yeah, and then
by the time 20 years comes around Jesus. Can
you imagine? Probably can and so that There's
a reason why for everything. True story. I have
another question though. When you were telling
your story initially, you said you were asking
your higher self. Do you differentiate between
those two? Like, what's the other self? If one
is higher, is the other one lower? So one, as
I, my perspective is one's more ego -based and
one's more spiritual -based. So ego based is
kind of grounded here and today like what's going
on around me and I mean ego doesn't mean bad
So ego as I define it is our human side the one
that like our human side is the one that doesn't
want anybody to see us look in a certain way
or And or we even if we don't want to hurt somebody's
feelings and we don't say things that's an ego
because our ego is stopping us from Being free
really it's just kind of this What I call kind
of the human side when I talk about my higher
self I connect to her a lot more when I do like
and and a lot of people all my clients I'll tell
them to do this when you do what I call free
writing if You journal when you journal just
if you have a question I might write a question
like how do I feel today and I'll just start
writing and it might be silly at first but then
over time your mind will start to flow and you'll
start getting all these answers or do you ever
notice like you think about something and all
of a sudden you might like you feel like it's
a daydream but you're you're really like getting
all kinds of like wow how do i like these are
really good ideas or really creative ideas out
of nowhere and stuff those are that's our higher
self that's our intuition like in that gut feeling
you get yeah okay So do you think the higher
self is objectively more offensive? Because you
said our ego stops us from doing things. And
that makes me think of myself lately. Rather,
the people who know me probably know me as someone
who will tell people what they don't want to
hear. Ruby, can you agree or do you disagree?
What do you think? I remember meeting you. I
don't want to toot my own horn. No, no, no. So,
the second day of me meeting Luigi, I walked
into what would be my classroom and I said, listen,
I don't know what your beef is with me. Oh, yeah.
Like, I haven't done anything to deserve whatever
you're throwing my way. I remember that. Remy,
I'm sorry, that was very bad. I still think about
that too. to this day. This is the perfect opportunity
to apologize to Ruby for that. No apology needed.
But if we ask why, the reason my response for
why was because I was promised I would not have
to change my classroom. By someone very disingenuous.
Who we've spoken already about. And Ruby didn't
know the rules, and so I was asking Ruby to just
wait. until we got a real direct answer. Like
I had no problem changing, but I wanted to know
for sure. But yeah. But I have to say to Ruby's
credit, such a positive person and like you did
not give up on just being nice to me. Yeah, it
worked. Look at us now. Started a podcast together.
I have found over the years that some of the
people I have the biggest rub with at first.
Can be my biggest? Heroes in some ways and even
my like best co -workers There's some of the
worst people that I've actually gone and like
to go to work and people go don't work for them
or stay away from them the thumbs and my favorites
because they're like you Luigi they say what
they mean mean what they say and They're authentic
but I have to add like you said What you felt
but you didn't say anything malicious Well, that's
good. Yeah, I don't remember it exactly but and
I think that that's the thing that Made everything.
Okay, so it was like, okay, we're both obviously
understers That's true and that With it in different
ways, but yeah back to the question it were you
were you? getting in touch with your higher self
in that situation? Well, because I always take
that kind of person as being bad. So now, you
know, Diane's talking about the higher self,
and so I'm thinking, okay, maybe I'm not actually
bad, but maybe there's someone more sinister
trying to control me and making me believe this
idea of being direct. He's trying to blame us.
I'm telling people how it is. But to me, the
higher self then, because it ignores ego, it
sounds more offensive, or it is more offensive.
Or maybe it's that people don't know how to accept
and face the things they do that perhaps are
good. Okay, so that's your ego that doesn't want
to face... The stuff and that's what I'm saying.
Like, do you know when you meet someone or you
know how you meet someone and You don't know
why they're being edgy and weird and like what's
your problem like But if you look behind it,
it's really because their ego knows They themselves
know like they may be being dishonest And their
higher self makes it really uncomfortable because
you're at your higher self. Your conscience is
like you know you're lying right like you know
you and so that makes us edgy right like when
we carry around things that we haven't gotten
out of a shot or we even all of us have told
an untruth at some point in our lives and typically
authentic people really like. Don't like to be
that way. We'll feel it like you really like
and you'll do something about that Right and
authentic people just ignore that and so they
ride on their ego. Yeah This is this is so poignant
for us. I think Yeah, well and I will tell you
that sort of how I So that's me picking up energy
probably because I pick up like before I meet
with my clients I'll often pick up like their
stuff I don't necessarily know I'll just kind
of make notes so I'm probably picking up on some
of your stuff and that just happens universe
wants me to talk about it maybe or I'm just picking
it up and giving it back to you so I okay I have
I have two questions now the first one is related
to ego and and the higher self I've been speaking
to my therapist a lot she is hyper excited about
this episode. Oh, we've been speaking about it
for three weeks now. Yeah, it's come up in every
session, if I remember. Anyway, the bottom line
is, I'm transgender. So what is, from your perspective,
what is the... difference between like ego and
where does a higher self and how do those two
come together because obviously like from my
discussions with my therapist My higher self
must be a she right she's she's there and The
ego has been molded by society in many ways and
that's why I was presenting as the wrong gender
for 35 years. Even though deep within myself,
I knew that that's not what I was or wanted to
be. Okay. So, it just so happens that I won't
use names, but I have a client who has had someone
in their lives that was transgender. And we worked
through this. So, and they've passed. their spouse
passed, and so we connect to them. And when we
connect, what's really interesting, so the first
time I did a reading, I did not know that her
spouse was transgender. I had no idea. But I
kept picking up on two people and I saw it as
a V. So I kept feeling two energies, but they
were connected like at a route like this. And
I didn't understand. And so I kept feeling this
female. I kept feeling this male. So we go through
it a little bit. And it's usually about halfway
through where I'll do like, OK, here's a bunch
of information now. How does this make sense?
And then we kind of work through it. And then
she said, my spouse was transgender. And that
was the story. So now. when we work together,
I will have one or the other or both of them
show up. And because I sometimes spirit will
come to me like a week or so before my client.
And I will pick up one or the other of them or
both, like I said. And they are two separate
spirits. And so we've we've kind of. because
nobody really knows and my client is also a in
the psychiatric type world and so she's in the
counseling type world and so we kind of walked
through it with Breaking down asking a lot of
questions of spirit kind of it's a process. It
feels like what happened is If I can remember
correctly it was we had two souls who were connected
to each other who wanted to come through and
it was almost like one beat the other and they
but they were both there and it was it's it's
a very interesting um because I personally to
be honest I think it may be different for everyone
because we're all different as like a fingerprint
right and every we all have there's so many different
things when I do readings that come through that
Show me every single time that there is no right
or wrong answers like things are as they are
and so I don't know if I'm really answering a
question, but I'm trying to give you like kind
of an understanding of it I don't know to be
honest because everything is always different
with every situation every client I think you
answered my question perfectly. I don't know
good no nuts Okay. I did have another question
that I forgot completely. It was too... Your
answer was too good. Yeah. Well, I hope it helps.
I mean, it was... I'm going to be honest with
that situation was my very first experience in
working with transgender anyone. And it... And
I didn't work with them on this side. I worked
with them on that side. And so it's the most
honorable. I've never felt more honorable or
special or seen, not because it's about me, but
it was such an honor to be able to meet these
people and for them to teach me. So much and
they continue to do so and so I'm glad you asked
that question and gave me an opportunity to talk
about them because they are very important in
my life today because She's still a client. She's
also becoming kind of a friend and to have the
honor of meeting them and understanding their
story and Challenges is truly an honor to do
that. Well, thank you for asking that Thank you
for answering in such sincerity and depth, for
sure. I think that one of the things missing
right now, especially in American media, is just
perspective and humanization of us. Because there's
so much demonization, it's crazy. And I'm sorry
and I want to just say that I want to put this
out there because I want you to know No, it's
important that it be sad. I want you to understand
and I know you do but I want you to hear There's
so many of us who love you guys there really
is and then we're all rooting and and we're stuck
it's like But as an intuitive and stuff, I absolutely
cannot, like, engage in any of the news and stuff
because it eats me up. Like, I feel all the stuff.
And when I lived in Florida, it was even worse,
like, because I lived in what you're seeing happening
in America was actually happening in Florida,
starting in about, well, it's been going on,
but it really amped up in 2016, which is about
the time I moved there. And so the hatred and
angst and stuff that's going on in the country
is really what Florida was about. And it took
me down. Like the energy in Florida is like,
what I found is I can even feel the energy of
the founders. And so there's so much hate in
the founders of Florida. I could feel it. I used
to do readings at the shop and every time I went,
I could feel like it was, I would cry. I had
to quit working at that shop because it was so,
the energy just felt very repressive, oppressive.
And I learned through doing some research that
building was directly across the street from
railroad tracks. Well, guess what? That was a
slave. trading location. I felt all of that hate.
And it's still in the ground. I mean, it's still
energetically in the state. It's just where it
is. So I want to just say on behalf of all of
us good Americans who love everyone, I'm so sorry
that that's spreading around the world. But I
will also say I wanna put this out there because
I've seen this since 19. I'm doing readings with
people. Sometimes what comes up is kind of world
views. Sometimes I'll start getting downloads
of what's kind of going on. I want you guys to
know the world is evolving and it's evolving
to an amazing place. But in order to get there,
it's like cleaning a house, right? It looks like
shit before it looks beautiful. So. America is
a young country, and it has to go through what
other established, older countries have had to
go through to get good things established and
take care of their people. And talking about
egos, right? We were established by egomaniacs.
So our founding fathers were gross. It takes
time to detox that. it takes time for people,
human beings, to really see what they have to
be hit in the face sometimes with it. And what's
happening, and my perspective, and I've been
watching it, we're going through this evolution
so people start to really understand that they're
human, and they start to see each other as human
again, and we start to get to the good stuff.
But... Nobody knows good unless they know bad.
And so unfortunately, what is happening I am
seeing though. Unfortunately, there's going to
be bad. But the people who what I'm seeing, people
who have good intentions and are trying to do
good in this world and give out good energy and
uplift others. It's a weird vibe. They're in
a totally different time. Things are going well.
Things are like, maybe they're going through
difficult shifts, but yet they're coming out
of it and they're, they're seeing good things
happen. And so what is going on is I feel like
the heavy energy is just going to be getting
flushed and it has to be, we have it all over
the world. And so all of that has to get taken
care of at some point. And so I feel like as
ugly as all this is. it's gonna be amazing on
the other side. And when I say other side, I
always keep hearing like two, three years. So
yeah, it's gonna be difficult, but we will get
through this. And the US will be loved again.
And we will give love again. Better than ever.
That sounds promising. Sorry, I get rolling on
energies. Hey, I believe it. Yeah. Two to three
years. I'm excited. You have a question? I do.
Well, I have a number of questions. I'm just
thinking which one's better to lead into. I think
both can go off on tangent. So I'll just think
about this. So Diane, before you mention, really
briefly, just like trusting your gut. And this
is something people hear all the time. And I
think a lot of people want to trust their gut.
I would love to be so in tune with myself that
I would know how. to listen to my gut. So I guess
my question is, you know, how can you trust your
gut and how do you not confuse it for your ego?
This is a skill I would like to have. So in all
that you said is and I said is the word trust,
right? Trust is the big word. So the way I work
with my clients on doing this, it's sort of a
It's a story how do I must describe it because
it's kind of a big question actually But the
way I kind of think I'll describe it as I work
with my clients so that you can I can give you
a little understanding of how it might work that
way so with a client what I'll do is in teaching
them to hear and understand themselves is they
will come to me they keep their journals like
and We'll talk about the things that they were
struggling with then we'll lean in on the spiritual
energy side and I will ask them how they like
intuitively felt about something and this is
why I can say ego gets in the way because everything
I'm saying is that stuff I made up it's all experienced
and it's always been a wow factor even like me
I'm like wow so what happens is I'll start asking
the questions about what but how do you really
feel and in a safe place people will start to
talk about that. And then they realize, oh, I
led with my ego, fear. And I can see that I was
hearing that that was true, because I will. What
will happen, Luigi? It's hard to tell and explain
it. It's like what will happen is I will feel
the energy and I'll see your story and I'll see
what's really the case. And so like nobody can
bullshit me. You can't sit and lie to me. So
because I can see it, I can feel it. It's very
uncomfortable. So I will call people out because
I have to because I have to move the energy.
So that's how I do it is I can feel what the
story is. I can see it like maybe not exact but
I can get the points and then I'll say this is
it and then usually they'll admit like yeah I
didn't think that that it was coming through
or I did hear that and okay next time so then
I'll say okay next time whenever you feel this
way think about how your body was feeling And
when you get that sensation, that's a red flag.
And they go, Oh, okay. So then the next time,
cause you always have these little things with
people that might hit you in the top of the gut,
you know, that feeling where here's a big one.
Here's a big one. The feeling of when somebody
is telling you something and you almost feel
like the best way I can say is like trapped,
but you know, at the top of your guts, you almost
like, you want to scream no, or you're like,
that's not true. Or like this weird. Hard to
describe That is the red flag going something's
off or you do need to speak up You're right because
every time I've ignored it And I'm sure and this
is what I also what I tell my clients Anytime
something like happens where you knew better
like damn I knew that was gonna happen Go back
and write about it or look at your notes and
think about where did I miss that? So that next
time you don't And you will, we're all human,
it's gonna happen. But it does help if you, the
trust factor is huge. And I'll tell you, earlier
this year, my husband was, so I've left corporate.
And so this is the work I do, but we live on
two incomes. And he had to leave his job for
another job, fell through, so he was unemployed
for six months. That's when I had to lean heavy,
heavier than ever into faith and trusting universe
that everything's gonna work out and trusting
my intuition. And that's what we're getting,
right? And so every day I would write about my
fears, and as I wrote, I would ask for guidance.
I would just ask, and things would just start
coming through. Now at first, for me, I know
I can trust it, but at the beginning, you don't
know that. So all you can do is kind of keep
a record so you can see patterns, and patterns
tell stories. Does that help? Yeah, you said
a lot of interesting things. It comes out so
I know that's okay one thing I think about when
I think of Trusting your gut for me. I'm always
I guess my problem or my mistake is always assuming
the trusting your gut thing is positive in as
much as your gut is supposed to feel a certain
way and in like a good way and that's how you
know the answer never If your gut's feeling a
bad way, that can also be an indication of, let's
say, not to do something. Yeah, yeah, it's a
huge... It's always been if the gut, if it feels
bad, you know, something's off. I go the other
way. When I feel bad, as like a person who's
anxious, I'm neurotic, you know that. So when
I'm always anxious, I don't think it's my gut.
I think, oh, I'm just anxious. It's because I'm
anxious and that's, it's not my gut. I can't
trust my gut because I'm anxious. Right. You're
right, but you're anxious for a reason. Yeah,
that's true. Then you do the writing, right?
You write down all those things. And you're anxious
because you're carrying it all up in here. There's
a reason you're anxious, but in this discussion,
we carry all... If you carry everything in your
brain, think about how hard your brain is constantly,
because you're moving all that response in your
brain all the time. How exhausting. No wonder
you're anxious. So if you write it down, I mean,
trust me, I've got clients that are like, tell
me to journal, damn straight. I have something
to say on this. I know journaling is good, but
I still struggle with doing it. Oh, I know. Yeah,
I did, but it's a process. I still have mild
dyslexia, but you've watched me write. I haven't
made a single mistake where I had to erase something.
I didn't. And it used to happen like every second
or third word because I was so anxious because
all of my mental, like, bandwidth, there's a
clicking, there's a clicking sound. I hear it,
but don't worry about it. Okay. Doesn't matter.
All of my mental bandwidth was being taken by
performing the male gender. I was constantly
anxious. I was constantly making spelling errors.
I wasn't... I've wanted to start a podcast since
I knew what podcasts were. And I've never been
able to come out as transgender one month later,
boom, podcast. Yes. Yes When you release the
energy when you like be free it be you that's
the authentic thing that's why authenticity is
so important and that's why I can feel because
I Can feel people's inauthenticity if they're
lying and stuff because it is it's an energy
that you have to actually work to keep You don't
have to work to be authentic to be real to be
real, right? so If you're working hard, you might,
you have all that kind of vibe. I mean, if you
think science, right? We're built, we're made
molecular, so we're all these like little molecular
pieces, right? And so it's energy and it's all
vibrating. And the only difference, if you think
about spirit versus us, is that we're vibrating
more heavier because we're more compact. So if
that's a vibrational thing, and these thoughts
or vibrations, if you're carrying around all
these heavy thoughts, then you're going to be
anxious. And I don't even know, spiritually,
if that would be the word. Anxiety is more of
it's more just like you're working so hard to
keep it all in. Yeah, I think it's like when
we try to... Really make it really reductionist
when you try to control your future And you have
like a perfectionist tendency then you get a
lot of anxiety because you have expectations
of how you want things to be and Sometimes you
can't have both and you have to make a choice
and And it sucks Because you're not gonna get
what you want exactly and that's what causes
anxiety. Is this reflection? What do you mean?
I'm just tired. Well, I'm yeah, it could be I'm
totally, again, super neurotic. You know that.
I'm always overthinking things. I don't know
if you've seen the picture on my fridge. It's
literally a little cat, and it says overthinking.
My friend got it for me as a joke. I don't think
it was a joke. Well, no, of course it's not a
joke. It's true. What if you played the What
If game? It is in there. What if I played the
What If game? I mean, I could play it, sure.
Know I think I know what you're talking about
wrote like in my sub stack I had this whole thing
about and I went through it on my podcast. So
what if can get you out of the anxiety? right,
so Your anxiety is your worst -case scenarios
really is what we usually do like we're worrying
about. Yeah. Yeah, right So then right question
is so what if that happens? What's my backup
plan? or What's really going to happen? Well,
I won't be able to do that for two weeks or whatever
it is, right? Yeah. Well, then, yeah, can I live
with that? Yeah, I can live with that. Actually,
that's not so scary. It's just you have so many
of them in your brain. But if you write them
down and you go, what if you start to see something,
it's an amazing why and what if are my two like.
Favorite kind of terms, it's words, it's just
sort of one of those things that seem to help.
Break it down. Yeah I think too just to add to
the Gut thing you said something also I think
very insightful. I never really thought about
you said we get we have trouble trusting our
gut because Like we're not in a safe place so
to me that's really interesting because if you're
never in a safe place How can you ever learn?
to really you know listen to your gut and be
attuned because You can't remove yourself from
that safe place or that place that isn't safe
rather But you might just be stuck there that
just might be your circumstances Okay, when I
talk safe place that's where we are at right
now and Maybe not physical it well it kind of
is but it's more about Safe place to talk it
through or that sort of thing. So like with my
clients so For whatever reason i'm not against
therapy i think therapy is an amazing thing i
go through it but spiritual advisors have a different
role. And so for whatever reason i will have
people come to me. I'm to break through some
blocks or find blocks that they are struggling
to explain to their therapist because i can pick
up on the energy. and so then i can almost tell
you like what it is that you're struggling with
because i can see the block you can't because
your head's spinning so fast about all the things
and so in a safe place i mean which is what we
provide then we can talk about those things.
And then you go, oh, okay. And then you might
go back to your therapist and say, these are
what I'm finding in my box. Now what's my strategies
to work through those? Does that make sense?
Yeah. Yeah, no, it makes perfect sense. Sorry.
A lot of what I say is both experience, but then
I'm also feeling energy. And so it will go, sometimes
it'll just go. I think that when we spoke before
on the foundry, I mentioned this book called
the Holy Language, Power of Holy Language. It's
not a Christian, it sounds a religious book,
but it's not. It's exactly about this spirituality,
connecting with your higher self and understanding
it. Like the concept of Ubuntu really comes into
it. Ubuntu is like the African philosophy I am
because of who we are. Yeah, and I will say and
I think Ruby you and I talked touched on that
too when we talked the first time as There is
a difference between religion and spirituality
So religion is a man thing. That's a man -made
thing a human thing Well, it is and then because
it's written by humans as I did understood, but
it's still been created and written by man Right.
And so we can translate wrong. So, and there's
an ego driven behind the creation of these things.
And I'll tell you the first time, um, and I'm
not against religion as long as it's for the
greater good and taking care of people and all
the things. However, what I experienced, um,
My personality always ends up putting me in some
sort of a leadership position. And so when I
would go to churches, somehow I'd end up in the
administrative team. And in order to become part
of this one church's administrative team, I had
to go through this, like how we became this religion
class. And what I found out was, well, we're
this religion because the founder of the religion
didn't like what that religion did. So he took
off and started this religion. And that's when
it went to me like, so this isn't even like,
this isn't godly, this is humanly. This is, you
guys made this. And so anytime you're controlling
people with something, it is not. Godly spiritually
universal higher power. It's human and so spirituality
is what is uplifting light teaches us things
like gets us connected to being our true selves
it feels good when you If you and I have gone
to a church where the pastor was extremely spiritual
and when I left I felt lifted and I could get
through my week because of her messaging. But
I've also been to a lot of churches where you
are damned if you don't do this and you're hell
and brimstone and all the bullshit. That's fear
control. That is not spiritual. So that's why
I wanted to clarify the difference because religion
can be spiritual, but spirituality is not religious.
Yeah. I think that both Luigi and I are very,
very aware of that. Yeah, any other questions?
Yeah, I can go on. Because we have to, I think
we have to wrap up this part of the podcast.
Otherwise we're going to go for three hours.
You can ask one more question. Okay. Okay. So
you mentioned you were in, I don't know where
it was. Somewhere, was it in Florida? Anyway,
there was a slave trading ground and you sensed
the like energy. The vibration so I actually
wanted to ask you about the concept of everything
having a resonance So, you know we can interpret
this in a few ways in like the physical or scientific
sense It's certain frequencies can cause vibrations
and objects but then in like a metaphysical or
philosophical Sense it's the idea that again
everything has a resonance and like a kind of
vibrational frequency My one my one friend really
like believes in this hit him and his wife went
to Egypt and They went into just a random store
I guess wherever all the tourists go and they
they had him and his wife hold A blue lotus.
I think that's what he told me it was And they
just said just hold it and just wait and do you
And he asked both of them do you feel anything
and his wife's she said, no, I don't feel anything,
and he's still holding it, and then the shopkeeper
started to tell them both, like, it should feel
like there are little ants going up your arm,
and like, whatever, he feels them. And then my
friend tells me this story, like, his face was
like white as a sheet, because he couldn't believe
what the shopkeeper was telling was happening
to him, and all his wife was thinking was, I'm
dead inside because I couldn't feel whatever
this flower was doing to me. And he said, and
I heard the story and I kind of went, oh, interesting,
but he said, no, everything has a resonance.
I like the idea and I want to believe that, but
like, I don't know, what does that mean to have,
if everything has resonance? How does it affect
that? Go to science, go to science. That's it,
it's science. It may be we may be talking spiritual
stuff But spirituality is it just really connecting
with energy and a higher source and believing
in something higher bigger than you, right? But
when I yeah with energy, that's what we're talking
about And so it's it is exactly that what it
is. I mean cuz right these are This isn't truly
solid if we break it right down, right? It's
the same thing the vibrate absolutely vibrations
effect and what I say in terms of and I laughed
when you said she feels like she's might be dead
inside no no no she has has a whole lot going
on and she probably wasn't connecting to the
idea of the same where he might have been looking
at it like yeah I really want to do this and
so he opened his energy he allowed We can block
it too because I've I can literally like to have
someone sit in front of me and want say they
want a reading But I can't get anything and the
reason I can't is because they don't really want
to know and they'll admit that like well I didn't
really want to hear what you had to say. I just
came because I thought I did Well, I can't work
with you because you're blocking my energy. I
can't pick anything up So it's energy. Do you
go when they yeah, do you think when they say
things like that? They're just trying to Like
disqualify the experience because they they couldn't
Like get a good reading So kind of like cognitive
dissonance like all I didn't want it anyway just
to make themselves feel better. Yeah, it is It's
totally yeah, because they're afraid of what's
to say I've had Off time I had I know two or
three clients that did that to me and because
I provided a safe space by just allowing them
to be that way for a few minutes and just, you
know, so what are you here for? Kind of just
that safe place. They finally would admit that,
well, I was sort of afraid. I went to this person
or that kind of service and I was told to try
this. I didn't know what you were going to tell
me. I've heard some horror stories about people
will be told that you have dark entities attached
to you and all of these. things and so it's scary
for people but again that's not spirituality
that's ego driven excuse my french bullshit and
and i'll challenge anybody to that i do not believe
in the do i believe in dark heavy thoughts that
come to mind but i do not believe that an entity
can attach to you and be there it's had any a
client tell me that and in the end I'll find
out through doing energy reading that what they
feared was somebody coming after them was actually
maybe an uncle for time like who's past you know
great great great uncle who's coming to warn
you about something that they're actually your
guardian angel they're watching over you and
they're warning you and In the interest of time,
I won't go through the whole story, but there
was, I got the whole story and I told the woman
and she went, oh my God, that answers all the
questions of what was going on in my house. And
it was because her husband was up to no good.
And every time he was up to no good, uncle so
-and -so would come shaking up something, turning
off the lights, whatever it was to get her attention.
So to kind of go back to what you were asking,
It is all vibration. It's all energy. And she
probably was... Just to clarify, there's no such...
You don't believe there are entities. It's just
energy. And people are trying to understand it.
So they kind of make it tangible and they call
it an entity. Because that's something you can
visualize more than something so abstract like
energy. Yeah, I think so. Like I've had people
say like... the reason they were doing all these
things was because this dark entity made them
do it. My perspective is this. My perspective
is that's heavy energy, that's either you're
struggling with mental health, that you really
do need to talk to therapists. And I'm not saying
they're crazy. What I'm saying is it's just super,
like some really harsh life happenings are weighing
on them. And because of that, they've turned
those things into an avatar of a dark entity.
And so I've had them come to me and I'll start
talking about it. And like I said, then that's
when I realized, no, it's kind of a combination.
You're getting someone coming to you to tell
you to beware or guide you. but all of these
fears and scary traumas and all the things, you're
attaching that to... Because sometimes we just
need it attached to something, right? And so
I kind of call it an avatar. So spirits, yes.
Dark entities, no. Evil spirits, also no. No
spirit is evil. I don't believe so. I don't believe
so. maybe misguided. That's something I can give
you. I think it's what we apply to them. Yeah.
It reminds me a lot. Okay, I have a question.
What is the show that... that relates to mediums,
spiritual advisors, and so on. The TV show that
you think is the most accurate representation
of what you do. Well, I don't watch a lot of
TV, but I would say John Edwards is a good one,
because he's authentic. He's just this dude that
just happens to have this, like the way he came
about is as similar as I. And I think he's probably
the one I respect the most. There's a guy on
YouTube, I can't remember his name, Charlie.
I want to hear that. I think you misunderstood
my question. I'm talking about like a TV series,
fictional TV show with a character. I'm sorry.
Okay. So I'm trying to remember the name of the
show. ghost maybe ghost whisper with yeah with
jennifer love hewitt yeah that's what i was yeah
as well that's what that would be the closest
i could get yeah probably um just because of
the way she got her information for all is like
there were there were some it's a show for entertainment
obviously there were some dark entities but overwhelmingly
it was just spurts Trying to find their way back
In a way and sometimes misguided Yeah, and I
I've had like my brother -in -law was we lost
him in a car accident and my sister was told
by somebody That oh he's stuck on the side of
the road his spirit stuck there. That's not how
it happens. That's just not So he Everyone is
on the other side when they leave Cool. That's
also comforting. So, resonance, this is your
topic, right? Yeah. I fully believe in resonance.
I think that it's much harder for us to pick
up on. But we are, in essence, the functioning
of our personality, ego, higher self, everything.
that happens within this body is a function of
electromagnetism which is directly affected by
the things around it. Yeah, there's that scientific
element. Yeah, exactly. I don't know that it's
measurable necessarily, but even if it's not,
this is where my faith comes in. I think people
just don't know how to be in tune with it. It's
still such a... like an abstract concept. Like,
you know, we can't see radio waves, but we accept
them. But it's so hard to really understand this
idea of resonance. Maybe it's because we don't
have the capacity, not, well, I don't, have the
capacity to, you know, see it, hear it, feel
it, and use it as a tool. I think what people
want, I think what people want, and I think this
might be the ego, because I'm learning from Diane,
we want power, we want control, kind of like
superpowers, and it's bad. And it's not like
that. It's much more subtle, I think. Yeah, and
I think for me, in terms of reading people's
energy, and I believe anyone who really comes
from, I don't want to say traumatic lives, but
you go through a lot of stuff. And life you and
especially if you have anyone who substance abuse
or just abuse of any kind. If you're around people
like that, you pick up, you're very alert because
of their, um, you never know what they're going
to do from one minute to the next. Right. And
their inconsistency. So you start to kind of
pick up on energy and like, okay, I feel like
they walked in the house and now I can feel that
I. Learned over years to just pick up on that
stuff and really lean learn that. Oh when I feel
those that person acts like this or is this and
so then I I've just started Intuitively just
started using it like I wasn't taught. Yes This
is all over the years and that's because I've
been put in so many different places different
jobs and stuff that I've just Been able to collect
the ability and then school classes helped me
hone it. I believe everybody has this ability.
That was your original perspective. Everybody
is as intuitive as you are. I believe that too
because I told you, I don't know, a couple weeks
ago we were out. We were out eating and I told
you about, you know, I went to a psychic and
he told me the same concept, you know, that like
I have this. Are you going to tell that story?
What's to tell, really? That's it, I just summarized
it. You mean the story about how he predicted
meeting you? Yes. And I did not know that, okay.
Well I went to, like before I, like more than
10 years ago, maybe 15 years ago, I went to,
I like going to psychics and mediums back home,
I like doing that, so I went often. And one of
them, when I was young, he said, when you're
older, you're gonna meet a man. He read playing
cards. And so he chose, it was like, I don't
know, a queen or a jack something, and he said
like this one, this is a man you're gonna meet,
but he doesn't want to be a man. He's got blue
eyes, he likes to dress as a woman. His name,
his name, it starts with a J. Don't say that
name. I won't say that name. But it's Ruby's
name. Yeah, it's my name. And I went through
life meeting all these men with J's and having
the same kinds of appearance and stuff, but I
was like, oh, is this the guy? But it never really
kind of fit until Ruby. But aside from that,
this same medium told me, you have this... Intuition
everyone has it and they should like hone it
but he specifically told me I should practice
it but It was just you know, too overwhelming
to even consider doing but yeah, that's that's
what That reminds me of And I mentioned You were
talking about earlier, how did we about how do
you know when you like hear your inner voice
versus ego or something I would think Yeah, so
my question to you is how do you know it was
her? I don't really know it's her but I mean
it everything No, but you do the lines with what
he said. It's it's so I don't it's perfect versus
the what? The others you met over a little time.
Well, because they didn't they didn't do things
like you know, they didn't address they didn't
dress as Women they didn't do drag Their their
beliefs Were different so obviously Ruby's transgender,
but you know these other people I met you know
are staunchly against Transgender so you know
there and so that's why For years I was kind
of like well could this be the person like there's
some things that the medium said that aligns
with that Maybe it's them, but then it just dawned
on me only recently really Donning on you is
what I was trying to get to you get you to get
that moment Excuse me, because that's the feeling
I'm talking about when you when you connect to
you like like You may not think of it as that
but it is that feeling when you Connect to your
higher self and get the guidance and understand
like ah It's really cool. And I don't think you
told anyone before that story, right? I never
told anybody that. Now that you've told me, it's
kind of sealed. I think it's over. The prophecy
is done. Yeah. I think I'm going to still go
back home and look in all my old little notes
and find that because I would go to the mediums
and I would take notes as they're telling me.
I'll try. I'll see if it still exists. I will.
You can frame it. Okay. That would be cool. I
mean what a full circle moment and that's awesome.
Yeah, true. Yeah, cool I remember the first time
I actually because I've been crossdressing for
a very long time But secretly and then I was
like, okay, it's Halloween And I'm gonna wear
I'm just gonna wear wig because I don't like
wearing silly, hella mean costumes. I want my,
like the thing that drives me always has been,
how do you do something authentically? And it's
actually something that held me back from being
authentic for a long time because I was like,
if I'm, I don't want to be a parody of a woman.
That would, that wouldn't be just. like in my
mind, it needs to be, I don't know how to put
it into words, an authentic experience, like
not a parody. And for the first time, so that's
why I would never wear like a Pikachu costume,
because I just think it's stupid. But I got this
like pretty realistic looking wig. And I just
went to school in my normal school uniform, but
I took my co -teacher's scarf. And then I was
a girl. And she said, Oh, dressing in drag. That's
cool. Did I say that? I don't remember this.
I don't remember this at all. Was it this last
year or last last year? The previous year. I
really don't remember. Did I say it in like kind
of like a... No, we were already becoming friends.
Yeah. Well, I would hope I wouldn't say it with
any kind of... Oh, no, it wasn't. It wasn't the
mean spirit. Attitude. Yeah, mean spirit. I really
don't remember that. Maybe that's because for
me it's just so acceptable and normal. Yeah.
For me, like, if I was like, okay, cool, I felt...
I started feeling much more comfortable just
talking to you. Yeah. Anyway... Yeah, it's a
nice one, actually. I want to talk about... threshold
moments. So I think that I actually did a vlog
about this a couple of days ago. I think everybody
goes through threshold moments in their lives,
something that they cannot go back from ever.
What are your biggest threshold moments do you
think? Or what if you don't want to answer that
question? What do you think is a threshold moment
that people have to go through in order to achieve
something? That's really tough. Me, I can't go
back to, I left the business corporate world
and although that was a career, it was bigger
than that for me. It was my identity because
I was doing that since I was 17. So when I left
that, Um, I literally remember walking out that
business, that office tour going, I'll never
come back to this like ever, like the world of
corporate. I didn't know why I knew that I just
in my heart of hearts just knew I'll never go
back to that, that world. Um, so that for me,
it was a big threshold moment. It has taken time
though, to accept that threshold moment. So I
think that's another element of it all. What
is the thing that happened that made you go,
I'll never come back to this? Is it just when
you walked out of the building? No, it was the
35 plus years of inauthenticity and having to
live and abide in a certain world, knowing it
wasn't honest, was hurting people. In order to
succeed, I would have to be Like more of what
I didn't want to be. And so, um, yeah, that,
that, and now to think about going back, which
I did actually a couple of years ago and had
an interview lined up and I just couldn't do
it. My body and everything, the energy with it.
I was like, nah. Can't go back. Plus I'm so sensitive
now because of the energy. I feel like I can
always go back to things. A threshold moment
for me, something that impacted me greatly, I
think, was, and this might sound really cliche,
but the selling of my childhood home. So I really
didn't want my mother to sell her childhood home.
I wanted her to stay there forever. Because it
was just, I guess it was maybe so comfortable.
In retrospect, I don't think it obviously it
was a good thing because it really that's what
pushed me. To go overseas, which sounds really
strange, but. I think that was finally a good
excuse to say OK. Time to go because my whole
family had just like left to the city that we
were all in at that time. Wow, so there was and
I just there was no point for me. staying there.
And I always wanted to work overseas, so I thought,
okay. I'm making it sound more positive than
it is. It was pretty dramatic for me. It was
scary, but yes, I did it. And now, the funny
thing is all of my family has moved back to the
same city. So, you know, it all worked out, but
we still don't, like, our childhood home is not
our childhood home. My mother has a new home.
I can still walk on my old street, and I still
look at my old childhood home. I don't know if
I envy the people there, but there's definitely
some kind of, what's the word, I don't know,
pain. Nostalgia? Yeah, nostalgia, that's good.
That's a good one for it. So I guess that's the
threshold moment I can think of. Something over
your phone. It changed you as a person. It did,
because I really, like, growing up, I... In my
hometown, I felt like my peers thought my hometown
wasn't cool. They wanted to go and see the world
and be in more cosmopolitan places. But me, I
thought this is enough. So having to leave it
was really painful. I was just so used to that
comfort and I felt safe. It's hard for me to
relate to. Yeah, I believe it's hard for a lot
of people to relate to. Like I said, it sounds
really like... cliche and kind of campy. No,
I don't think it's cliche or campy at all. I
have like deep empathy for that. And I wish that
I could have a threshold moment like that. But
I never cared about any place that I lived in.
That's not a bad thing though. I think it is.
I think it's good because I never felt like this
is where I belong. Home is where the heart is.
Yeah, sure. I miss, if I go to South Africa now,
I miss China. This is my home now. But it's my
home and so much as the people that I love are
here. Obviously, I love my family too. But there's
a disconnect and experience and understanding.
that I think is absent in South Africa. Like
this conservative state and culture and very
kind of structured. It's very limited because
in South Africa you can't... At 6 p .m. everything
shuts down. Nobody's on the roads anymore because
it's not safe. You can't go have a beer anywhere.
I mean, I don't drink a lot. But when I want
to, I want to be able to go out at 1 a .m. and
do that. Why does it matter when you are allowed
to do anything? Obviously, that's not a threshold
moment at all. My threshold moment was the one
that changed my life the most. There are a few
factors here. and now I'm going to bring this
all back to being trans. Being one of those people.
Started cross -dressing during the time of, during
COVID actually, more and more. Then when we moved
to this, when I moved to this job, finally all
of my like financial issues were solved. And
so no more debt, savings. some expendable cash.
And I was like, now I can authenticate, I can
do justice to cross -dressing. Like it's going
to be good. And I can go through all of these
tests and make sure that it looks good. And I
had the best time, but I would not have told
anybody. I wouldn't have, if somebody said, are
you transgender? I would be like, no, no, no,
no way, not me. I was subconsciously looking
or Yeah, I was conscious of the fact that I was
doing this but in complete denial of the fact
that I was doing it walking through pharmacies
looking for misplaced pill boxes that had high
levels of estrogen because none of them are RTC
and then I met a guardian angel on a website
and I was like I read your story. How did you
do this? She transitioned during COVID. She's
British. And she's like, this is someone you
can contact. And I was able to get a box of pills.
My threshold moment was going to the delivery
station, picking up my box, opening it up, and
taking out a box of bioidentical estrogen and
it was like a lightning rod moment. Boom. There
was no way I was gonna put it back ever. It was
like, this is the thing. If anybody had given
me that box at any time before in my life, it
would have been the same thing. That was my threshold
moment. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. And where
did your threshold moment, so you have answers,
but it's just a thought process. Where did those
take us? Look where we are, look what you're
doing, look who you are. Those threshold moments
are kind of... Point, very true. Yeah. They're
like catapults into the future. Embrace your
threshold moments if you find a moment like that.
Yeah. But I think there are also threshold concepts.
What do you mean? Once you start... Being able
to... It's kind of like the idea of theses ship.
You can be afraid of changing parts of your personality
in your life because you're afraid that you will
lose your life. Yes. Yeah. But once you make
peace with the idea that your ship is intrinsically
the same ship as what the captain is on. If you
take this captain onto another ship, that other
ship is now the captain's ship. It's still you.
It's still your ship. It doesn't matter how much
you change the ship. It's still your life. Is
that the higher self? I think that the captain
is the higher self in a way. And the ego is the
ship. Yeah, could be. I have to break that one
down. That's big. However you want to do it.
Okay. I wrote a poem about this. It's called
The Nameless Ship. It's on my Instagram. You
can go and check it out. Love it. I love the
concept. Good analogy. Does the higher self control
the ego? They're separate and the ego is just
something that gets in the way. Yeah. To me,
the ego is the human side. Because you know doesn't
mean bad doesn't mean like well look at me It's
it is like like I remember when I did my first
reading and I felt bad about something and my
instructor said Get the ego out of the way. So
it's not and I'm like playing me and that's not
you go I'm just trying to be nice and she's like
that's ego and it is it's it's all It's with
Our higher selves, our higher selves are the
most honest parts of us. But the ego is the one
that is kind of the shapeshifter, right? Like
changes for however and then judges and makes
all of that. So I don't know. That's just, to
me, they're just separate, but yet connected.
Yeah. It makes sense. Yeah. Maybe the ship is
not the ego. The ship is the life. Maybe the
captain is the ego and the higher self is the
orders or the destination. We have to refine
this. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Well,
there's a duality there so I think that's the
thing we need to at least acknowledge between
higher self and ego. For sure. Are there any
other questions? No, I'm done. Maybe I'm not.
I mean, I can always have questions. Well, I
appreciate you guys allowing me to spend time
with you guys. I really enjoyed our conversation.
It's so loose. That's fine. You guys are easy
to talk to. And I love that you're so open because
then it allows me to give and share. So thank
you for doing that. Thank you so much for coming
on to the podcast. Yeah. Super lovely. I'm always
I'm always So I don't want to say worried I'll
say skeptical of our podcast that that like we're
not gonna have things to talk about but So far
hasn't happened yet never happened. I don't know
where Ruby finds everybody, but she delivers.
I love it This is great My higher self is busy
scouting while I dream. Yeah, I was really excited
about that. Diane riser your sub stack is trust
issues by Diane and your Company is oak and tusk
guidance where you will take on clients or Spiritual
advisory help with your skills as a medium and
an intuitive and path My name is What kind of
classes do you teach? Teach card reading classes.
Everything I teach is about using your intuition.
So I teach, and everything's virtual, but card
reading. So Oracle or any card that has pictures
on it really. I don't do the playing cards. My
mother -in -law used to do that though. So it
was funny, Luigi, you mentioned that. Yeah, I
honestly, to me when I saw it. I thought, what
a strange thing to use playing cards. That's
a gift. That's a real talent. But so I teach
card reading, and I also teach what I call intuitive
class. And so it's about connecting to your intuition.
And through that, people are often able to find
that they can do readings, too. And I have people,
by the end of all classes, they're doing reading.
That is so cool. I'm going to ask you about your
mother -in -law reading with cards when I come
onto your podcast on the 22nd. For sure. Well,
there won't be much. I never had her do it because
she did it before I knew that. And she passed.
So I never got a chance doing this work. I was
in corporate when she left. I do get her energy
this way, but I might be able to connect to her
and get some answers. But yeah, I don't know
a lot on this side about how that worked with
her. Okay, I have one last question. It'll be
quick. So I was talking to Ruby about this earlier
before the show. We were talking about cards,
and I was saying, I was showing her, I like...
card reading and tarot cards and things like
that. Now, do you think that the card matters?
Because I know there are some people who think
like if you read, if your tarot card is not the
standard tarot card side, let's say, or it's
not good, it doesn't count. Or do you think you
can use any, anything, it just depends on your
intuition and your energy and how you... Attune
yourself with it and use it as a tool. Yes, so
Tarot card readers people who are specific to
tarot like that is a That's that's an intuitive
thing. But also like that's a skill set like
that's something they studied and really so There's
different types of readers all That is a skill
set. They've used all the above to do but what
I like someone like myself I it does not matter
because I I read intuitively so I'll just give
you a really quick example is Like when I look
at a card, so let's I Won't get your colorful
ones Yeah, when you look at a card There's all
kinds of things on the card, right? But when
I read, what will happen is certain things will
pop out to me and those certain things have different
meanings. So like her butterfly wings, um, depending
on who's in front of me and what energy I'm picking
up, that might represent transition. It might
represent growth. Um, it could different things
I might pick up on the color. which is different
chakra colors. I might go, oh, you know, you
might be feeling something here. Let's dig into
that. So it's that's how I work. And again, we're
all different. And what's beautiful, what's so
beautiful is I've had clients come to me and
they're funny because they'll be like, so I went
and saw a different psychic or I went and saw
a different. Cool, because, yeah, you get different
perspectives. And honestly, most the ones that
are authentic readers will often be like the
messaging will be the same as what I get maybe
worded different or picked up different but the
messaging is the messaging your guidance is your
guidance it's not going to change yeah the delivery
person might but if they're authentically reading
then you'll always get pretty much the same information
so I think it's a yes and no question answer
to your question That medium I went to a long,
long time ago that told me about Ruby, not only
did he read just like playing cards, he also
had this canister of tongue depressors and he
drew a picture on each end of the tongue depressor
and he read that as well. So he made me pick
a certain number out and he laid another kind
of card. Yeah, he definitely had his own. The
message will come through. I have a friend in
the UK. She makes her own cards Yeah, I have
a woman that did a reading for me years and years
ago Who was the one who said I would probably
be doing this someday. She just used different.
She had a bag of crystals and She would just
pull depending on what the crystals were that
she pulled out for her had different meanings
and those meanings were, and her reading was
beautiful. I'm gonna echo, okay. That's still
here. Ruby disappeared. I'll be back in a second.
She'll be back in a second. Okay, I think that
went away. Okay, so that's what that is. So different
people can read different things based on, it's
intuitive. So then how can we, develop our intuition
practices and so like with someone like Taking
classes like I would love to have a class if
you'd like to but Through classes and things
that we do. Here's I'll give you just a few things
that will help Sitting in a room or wherever
sitting anywhere and either just observing and
taking in and And not just watching, but you
might tell a story and you just kind of pick
up what's going on, right? So you're picking
up all the nuances. You might not think it's
much, but your brain is collecting data. Another
thing I will do with my client or my students
is I will have them just sit and feel what they
feel and write it down. So don't think about
it. Just feel what you feel. And I'll maybe do
30 seconds or a minute and then they just write
it all down. Oftentimes that feeling will connect
to something else. But what I'm doing is I'm
having them learn to feel vibrations and the
minutia of it. And so I would have them go out
and listen. Listening. You know, like you might
hear a truck way off in the distance. So listen,
can you imagine, can you think about where they're
at and what that road looks like and just kind
of start collecting data. And it tunes you really
high. And also like I. people can easily pick
up on tones of voices and stuff because they
start, when you tune your ears, it's like accents,
right? If you talk to somebody with different
accents, it takes a little bit for your ears
to tune in and then you can understand them perfectly.
They can talk as fast as they want because your
ears are tuned into them. So it's the same thing.
I teach to tune into it and then every week we
meet, there's another layer. But it's all about
just... It's just honing what you already have.
It's actually an easy job. I'm going to close
the podcast here. I think it's a great spot.
I'd like for you just to stay on the line after
I stop the recording, if that's okay. Just make
sure everything uploads okay. Diane, thank you
so much for coming on to the podcast. I'm Ruby
Radio. You can find me at fire from heat on Instagram,
heat from fire on TikTok, and Ray Liu on YouTube.
You can listen to this podcast at rsis .com slash
kaleidoscope dash pod one. I'm Luigi. I live
in a drawer. Great. I come out whenever Ruby
needs me. Thank you, guys.