WEBVTT 00:00:02.010 --> 00:00:06.049 Welcome to Rhythms of Progress, where we explore 00:00:06.049 --> 00:00:09.550 how music and artists are the unsung heroes of 00:00:09.550 --> 00:00:12.750 political movements and social advancement. I'm 00:00:12.750 --> 00:00:15.830 your host, Shozzett Silva. But you can call me 00:00:15.830 --> 00:00:20.129 Lizzard. Yes, Lizzard. And with me is my faithful 00:00:20.129 --> 00:00:23.890 co -host, Stoney. Say hello to our friends, Stoney 00:00:23.890 --> 00:00:30.269 Boney. Oh, she's so cute. Today, Stoney and I 00:00:30.269 --> 00:00:35.350 are thrilled to welcome Elia Einhorn, a multifaceted 00:00:35.350 --> 00:00:39.390 artist, producer and engineer making incredible 00:00:39.390 --> 00:00:43.250 humanitarian, social and political contributions 00:00:43.250 --> 00:00:48.189 through his artistic passions. Go Elia! Elia 00:00:48.189 --> 00:00:50.890 has many groundbreaking projects, but here are 00:00:50.890 --> 00:00:55.119 just two of them. Sober 21. a zine about getting 00:00:55.119 --> 00:00:58.240 sober and staying clean in the music industry, 00:00:59.219 --> 00:01:02.500 and Transa, a musical project that celebrates 00:01:02.500 --> 00:01:05.739 the gifts and stories of trans and non -binary 00:01:05.739 --> 00:01:09.180 artists from various genres and generations. 00:01:10.060 --> 00:01:13.099 Through Tronza, Elia collaborated with the following 00:01:13.099 --> 00:01:17.579 icons. Sam Smith, Jeff Tweedy from Wilco, Andre 00:01:17.579 --> 00:01:24.099 3000, Sade. Yes, THE SADE. Stoney fainted twice. 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:29.079 And many more artists. Our conversation took 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:32.040 place over Zoom, so the sound will be adventurous 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:35.939 and a gift from the internet. I'd like to start 00:01:35.939 --> 00:01:40.120 with a thank you. Thank you, Elia. Elia and I 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:43.040 met in college, and he used to help me with my 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:46.040 music theory homework and skills, and somewhere 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:48.879 between my wrong notes, he'd mentioned this cool 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:51.950 girl named Amy. And he lights up like he found 00:01:51.950 --> 00:02:12.050 a missing chord to complete his song. It was 00:02:12.050 --> 00:02:15.349 beautiful. Always rooting for love. Always all. 00:02:16.460 --> 00:02:19.099 This is the cover of You Make Me Feel Mighty 00:02:19.099 --> 00:02:22.979 Real by Sylvester. The artists are Moses Sumney, 00:02:23.419 --> 00:02:27.819 Lyra Promuck and Sam Smith. Just one of the many 00:02:27.819 --> 00:02:31.340 dynamic tracks marching you straight into a rhythmic 00:02:31.340 --> 00:02:35.500 revolution. I think of this album as an ear candy 00:02:35.500 --> 00:02:38.860 buffet that will take you on a musical journey. 00:02:41.139 --> 00:02:44.210 You really did a lot for me at university. to 00:02:44.210 --> 00:02:47.889 see you and Amy and Conway and to know that all 00:02:47.889 --> 00:02:50.370 of that came together for you because I remember 00:02:50.370 --> 00:02:52.889 hearing about famous Amy I was like this sounds 00:02:52.889 --> 00:02:57.590 amazing it's just beautiful to see people's dreams 00:02:57.590 --> 00:03:00.969 come true that you got you're both each other's 00:03:00.969 --> 00:03:05.090 human you just cannot replace love oh thank you 00:03:05.090 --> 00:03:07.289 for the beautiful words and and it's so great 00:03:07.289 --> 00:03:10.650 to see again it's been too long and the time 00:03:10.650 --> 00:03:13.310 we spent in school is so precious you know and 00:03:13.289 --> 00:03:15.969 that time was so formative right in our in our 00:03:15.969 --> 00:03:18.930 lives like being at school for those years and 00:03:18.930 --> 00:03:20.610 hanging out and learning from each other it's 00:03:20.610 --> 00:03:23.870 amazing well i owe you so many thanks because 00:03:23.870 --> 00:03:26.210 i didn't know anything and i just had this passion 00:03:26.210 --> 00:03:28.729 if i didn't have people like you or like my best 00:03:28.729 --> 00:03:32.069 friend who never put me down you always encourage 00:03:32.069 --> 00:03:35.689 me i think that's really powerful to artists 00:03:35.689 --> 00:03:38.629 is to let them evolve well it's funny i mean 00:03:38.629 --> 00:03:41.789 you're you're you're sort of downplaying your 00:03:41.789 --> 00:03:45.110 ability and in a very humble way but you were 00:03:45.110 --> 00:03:48.310 like you know you were like the the best blues 00:03:48.310 --> 00:03:50.770 player and singer we had at school you know you 00:03:50.770 --> 00:03:53.050 were amazing i remember going down to the south 00:03:53.050 --> 00:03:54.930 side to see you at that bar and hanging out and 00:03:54.930 --> 00:03:57.409 i was like fuck she's like a proper musician 00:03:57.409 --> 00:04:00.129 whereas me i was like you know some like long 00:04:00.129 --> 00:04:03.090 -haired fool carrying around an acoustic guitar 00:04:03.090 --> 00:04:07.849 trying to you know i did not know my skills i 00:04:07.849 --> 00:04:11.310 just learned i was told who cares though Like 00:04:11.310 --> 00:04:14.629 a lot of my favorites are not technically, like 00:04:14.629 --> 00:04:17.569 they can't sit down and dissect chords and stuff 00:04:17.569 --> 00:04:20.110 and chord channels, but they're still the best 00:04:20.110 --> 00:04:23.089 because they just have a feeling for it that's 00:04:23.089 --> 00:04:27.930 better than maybe the scientific breakdown of 00:04:27.930 --> 00:04:30.670 it. Let me do what my therapist tells me to do. 00:04:31.089 --> 00:04:36.430 Exhale and thank you. Thank you. Boom. There 00:04:36.430 --> 00:04:40.259 you go. Love it. So what systemic changes, or 00:04:40.259 --> 00:04:42.459 why did you do Tronza? Did you notice something 00:04:42.459 --> 00:04:44.959 socially or politically? Because it's a beautiful 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:49.720 project. Thank you. Yeah, so there's two lead 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:52.500 producers on Tronza. Dustry, who I mentioned 00:04:52.500 --> 00:04:56.279 earlier, who's the one who brought me in to Red 00:04:56.279 --> 00:05:00.800 Hot, and then Massima Bell, who's a trans woman 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:03.980 from Iowa and lives out in LA now, and she's 00:05:03.980 --> 00:05:06.939 a musician. She tours with the fantastic Nina 00:05:06.939 --> 00:05:11.519 Keith. And she's an actress and a model. Masi 00:05:11.519 --> 00:05:16.139 is the sort of Renaissance woman. And they had 00:05:16.139 --> 00:05:18.100 been working on it for, I think, a few months. 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:20.339 And they said, Ellia, would you come on as a 00:05:20.339 --> 00:05:23.500 co -producer? And I said, of course I will. And 00:05:23.500 --> 00:05:28.040 for me, I had had a number of friends who had 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:32.439 transitioned. And I'd had this powerful experience 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:35.689 where one of my dear friends named Riff had lost 00:05:35.689 --> 00:05:37.949 someone that he really cared about who was also 00:05:37.949 --> 00:05:41.329 trans and I was at the talk house podcast and 00:05:41.329 --> 00:05:44.290 I thought we should really do a show around the 00:05:44.290 --> 00:05:47.189 trans community for visibility and I curated 00:05:47.189 --> 00:05:50.050 a conversation between Laura Jane Grace from 00:05:50.050 --> 00:05:54.029 Against Me and Genesis P. Orange from Throbbing 00:05:54.029 --> 00:05:57.930 Gristle and you know so many other amazing bands 00:05:57.930 --> 00:06:01.350 too but this is maybe like 10 years back This 00:06:01.350 --> 00:06:03.870 was a very powerful conversation. And I think 00:06:03.870 --> 00:06:08.189 that that work kind of led Dustin Massey and 00:06:08.189 --> 00:06:11.930 my other work in curation to invite me on board. 00:06:12.069 --> 00:06:14.930 And so I was able to bring some incredible artists 00:06:14.930 --> 00:06:18.970 on board and help produce some amazing sessions. 00:06:19.550 --> 00:06:23.069 Earlier this year, I flew out to the Grammys 00:06:23.069 --> 00:06:26.329 in Los Angeles. And there was a couple artists 00:06:26.329 --> 00:06:29.620 who were wanting to work with us on transit, 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:32.120 but who were reticent to sort of self -produce. 00:06:32.139 --> 00:06:34.220 They wanted a producer in the booth with them. 00:06:35.100 --> 00:06:37.639 So the day before the Grammys, I had this incredible 00:06:37.639 --> 00:06:41.420 weekend there. I rented a, I've never had a sports 00:06:41.420 --> 00:06:43.300 car. I've always, you know, been like a normal, 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:45.879 I always drove tour vans. And because I'm a dad, 00:06:45.980 --> 00:06:48.060 I have a Subaru Forester, like the safest thing 00:06:48.060 --> 00:06:50.620 for my daughter. So I rented a Dodge Challenger 00:06:50.620 --> 00:06:52.779 and I was just zooming around LA from session 00:06:52.779 --> 00:06:55.600 to session. The day before the Grammys, I went 00:06:55.600 --> 00:06:58.240 in with this amazing act of Hunter Schaffer, 00:06:58.579 --> 00:07:01.959 and Moxie and I produced her vocals for a poem 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:04.779 she wrote that was written by Eileen Miles. You 00:07:04.779 --> 00:07:07.339 may know Hunter Schaffer from Euphoria. Here 00:07:07.339 --> 00:07:18.800 is a bit of the poem. I was joked. Up in nothing. 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:33.860 Beautiful. And then I went to the Grammys the 00:07:33.860 --> 00:07:36.019 next day and then the day after that I went in 00:07:36.019 --> 00:07:39.740 with Fleet Foxes and I produced Robin Pecknold, 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:44.939 Fleet Foxes vocals for a track called TM that's 00:07:44.939 --> 00:07:47.680 a collaboration with Cole Paliche and Lynn Avery, 00:07:48.300 --> 00:07:51.620 a Charles Lloyd track. And that was amazing and 00:07:51.620 --> 00:07:53.939 Robin invited me to sing on it too so I'm singing 00:07:53.939 --> 00:07:57.449 one of the high parts. with Fleet Foxes on that, 00:07:57.470 --> 00:08:00.069 which was a very generous offer that I couldn't 00:08:00.069 --> 00:08:26.540 refuse. And so, you know, spending time in the 00:08:26.540 --> 00:08:29.300 studio with artists like that was incredible. 00:08:29.860 --> 00:08:31.879 I was in the studio with Sam Smith when they 00:08:31.879 --> 00:08:33.720 were recording with Beverly Glenn Copeland here 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:37.320 in New York. Incredible, I mean, just tears in 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:39.960 every fucking eye, literally every fucking eye 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:43.659 when Sam was singing. Ever knew Beverly Glenn 00:08:43.659 --> 00:08:47.860 Copeland's sort of iconic, what do you even call 00:08:47.860 --> 00:09:17.070 it, light velocity track? So you know it was 00:09:17.070 --> 00:09:20.289 really powerful and to get to be able to use 00:09:20.289 --> 00:09:22.769 my Rolodex to say like we were talking to Eileen 00:09:22.769 --> 00:09:26.210 Miles and Eileen I said, who's your favorite 00:09:26.210 --> 00:09:28.850 artist? Who would you want to work with? And 00:09:28.850 --> 00:09:31.570 they said, I love A Lotto Negro. So I texted 00:09:31.570 --> 00:09:33.629 A Lotto Negro and said, Eileen Miles loves you. 00:09:33.649 --> 00:09:35.970 Would you want to be on the project? And Roberto 00:09:35.970 --> 00:09:37.750 texted me back and said, of course, let's do 00:09:37.750 --> 00:09:40.710 it. And now there's a track coming out in two 00:09:40.710 --> 00:10:05.879 weeks with those two. It's just incredible. And 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:08.200 they've become friends and have talked about 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:11.980 doing more things together. So it's been incredible. 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:15.100 And I feel like, you know, the trans community 00:10:15.100 --> 00:10:20.500 has been so unfairly politicized. It's like, 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:23.559 just let people fucking live. Let people fucking 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:26.820 live. Whether that's black people in the 60s, 00:10:26.820 --> 00:10:29.340 whether that's women trying to vote, you know, 00:10:29.620 --> 00:10:32.700 last century. It's like, just fucking let people 00:10:32.700 --> 00:10:34.820 live and have equal rights. It's just logical. 00:10:36.980 --> 00:10:40.480 Looks like it's time for my unrequited opinion. 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:46.100 So, some politicians, you know who you are. You 00:10:46.100 --> 00:10:49.940 decided that the biggest threat to society are 00:10:49.940 --> 00:10:53.960 not climate change, the lack of healthcare, fixing 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:57.700 potholes that now qualify as small lakes, and 00:10:57.700 --> 00:11:02.340 poverty. No, you chose to blame the trans community 00:11:02.340 --> 00:11:06.279 and people with melanin. and a voice. Even a 00:11:06.279 --> 00:11:09.620 child can see you're using us to avoid doing 00:11:09.620 --> 00:11:13.519 your homework. Well, play it. Actually, not really. 00:11:13.940 --> 00:11:17.399 But I do acknowledge your effort. We all see 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:21.240 what's happening. But on a serious note, who 00:11:21.240 --> 00:11:24.500 hurt you? And you know, it takes a lot of strength 00:11:24.500 --> 00:11:27.019 to step down from any position and take care 00:11:27.019 --> 00:11:30.500 of your mental health. It's the responsible thing 00:11:30.500 --> 00:11:37.519 to do. Now that is boss level. So leave trans 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:41.379 people the fuck alone, you know? And so I hope 00:11:41.379 --> 00:11:46.440 that trans is a way of us letting A, supporting 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:50.080 trans and non -binary communities and helping 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:54.899 build community amongst many artists. B, platforming 00:11:54.899 --> 00:11:58.019 artists who are overlooked in a lot of ways because 00:11:58.019 --> 00:12:00.919 they're trans. And for a lot of the tracks we 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:04.789 paired trans artists with very big cisgender 00:12:04.789 --> 00:12:07.610 allies, you know, so like there's Jeff Tweedy 00:12:07.610 --> 00:12:32.919 from Wilco performing with Claire Rousey. And 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:35.059 then, you know, I think one of the most beautiful 00:12:35.059 --> 00:12:38.419 songs on Tronza is from Sade. Sade gave us an 00:12:38.419 --> 00:12:41.440 original that she wrote for her son Isaac. This 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:44.980 trance, it's called Young Lion, and it's an apology. 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:47.759 The whole song is this gorgeous, heartbreaking 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:50.100 apology for not knowing what Isaac was going 00:12:50.100 --> 00:12:55.639 through. And I hope, my dearest hope is that 00:12:55.639 --> 00:12:58.159 parents will hear that and either think A, I 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:00.299 don't want that to be my family. I need to listen 00:13:00.299 --> 00:13:02.600 to my child and what they're telling me about 00:13:02.600 --> 00:13:09.279 who they are. Or B, if it's already happened 00:13:09.279 --> 00:13:12.159 that they've maybe rejected their loved one because 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:15.019 of their transition, they can say, oh my God. 00:13:15.670 --> 00:13:17.889 I see where I was wrong here and I see where 00:13:17.889 --> 00:13:20.210 we can make amends, right, in the way Sade did 00:13:20.210 --> 00:13:49.039 so powerfully. And you know, Sade is someone 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:51.580 who speaks to people across political divides. 00:13:52.279 --> 00:13:54.059 And that was something that Dustin, I talked 00:13:54.059 --> 00:13:56.080 about a lot when we were curating Tronzo, it's 00:13:56.080 --> 00:14:00.039 like not just having an echo chamber of artists 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:04.320 on the left, but having artists like Jeff Tweedy, 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:09.600 like Sade, like Andre 3000, like Sam Smith, who 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:12.360 are listened to by everyone. And when they say 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:14.179 something, they're heard by everyone. And that 00:14:14.179 --> 00:14:16.769 was... something that we felt so proud that we 00:14:16.769 --> 00:14:19.190 had all accomplished, you know, the five of us 00:14:19.190 --> 00:14:24.049 who produced this record. You're right, Elia. 00:14:24.409 --> 00:14:29.889 These artists unite and heal. Ah, healing. Not 00:14:29.889 --> 00:14:32.429 on the political agenda, since it serves the 00:14:32.429 --> 00:14:36.850 people. So, artists are out here building bridges 00:14:36.850 --> 00:14:40.909 with baselines and truth, while the president 00:14:40.909 --> 00:14:46.200 remixes the constitution In the wrong key. Maybe 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:49.659 that's why they tried to censor the chorus. Hey, 00:14:49.740 --> 00:14:52.139 nothing threatens the system like a catchy tune 00:14:52.139 --> 00:14:55.940 with a conscience. Anyway, power to the people. 00:14:56.460 --> 00:14:59.200 Thank you to all of you for organizing protests 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:01.759 and anyone who was out there in the protesting 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:05.820 choir. You sounded beautiful. And if you were 00:15:05.820 --> 00:15:09.120 not there, thank you for protesting in your way. 00:15:09.340 --> 00:15:13.100 Making signs, writing articles, making art, refilling 00:15:13.100 --> 00:15:16.179 your emotional batteries to keep this world running. 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:20.259 Because someone has to keep the wifi on. And 00:15:20.259 --> 00:15:27.039 the group chats emotionally regulated. Oh, hold 00:15:27.039 --> 00:15:29.980 on. Moment. Stephanie just handed me a note. 00:15:30.379 --> 00:15:35.220 And it says... Enough talking, human. I love 00:15:35.220 --> 00:15:40.460 you, but we need snacks. Meow. I listen to my 00:15:40.460 --> 00:15:44.500 cot. I know my role in life. We'll be right back. 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:52.820 Hey, are you oddly angry at others for living 00:15:52.820 --> 00:15:56.360 their best lives? Does your blood pressure rise 00:15:56.360 --> 00:16:00.379 when you see bilingual signs? Does someone else's 00:16:00.379 --> 00:16:04.559 joy feel like a personal attack? Ugh, your happiness 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:08.220 sickens me. It's insulting my ancestors. If you 00:16:08.220 --> 00:16:10.820 find yourself experiencing those symptoms, you 00:16:10.820 --> 00:16:13.980 may be suffering from existential bitterness 00:16:13.980 --> 00:16:17.600 with chronic judgmental disorder, also known 00:16:17.600 --> 00:16:21.240 as EBCJD, and may be eligible for a lifetime 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:24.840 supply of therapy. It's like detox for your brain. 00:16:25.759 --> 00:16:28.679 Unlike hateful social media posts, therapy actually 00:16:28.679 --> 00:16:31.860 helps and has been shown to reduce passive aggressiveness 00:16:31.860 --> 00:16:35.840 by 98 .6 % and increase in mirror pep talk by 00:16:35.840 --> 00:16:40.490 150%. Side effects include clutching your pearls, 00:16:40.789 --> 00:16:43.309 twirling your hair while muttering, maybe not 00:16:43.309 --> 00:16:46.070 everything is my fault, screaming into a pillow 00:16:46.070 --> 00:16:50.129 that says, live life love, clenching your buttocks, 00:16:50.470 --> 00:16:52.429 realizing you were mean when you thought you 00:16:52.429 --> 00:16:55.409 were just telling it like it is, surprise feelings 00:16:55.409 --> 00:16:58.690 of joy, and accidental kindness towards yourself 00:16:58.690 --> 00:17:02.250 and others. In clinical trials, patients reported 00:17:02.250 --> 00:17:04.970 puffiness around their eyeballs after a mysterious 00:17:04.970 --> 00:17:08.779 salt water leakage. On rare occasions, some patients' 00:17:09.400 --> 00:17:11.619 mascara ran down their face and mistook their 00:17:11.619 --> 00:17:14.839 reflection for Alice Cooper. For that, common 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:17.579 sense and doctors recommend washing your face 00:17:17.579 --> 00:17:20.539 with soap and water, followed by any moisturizer 00:17:20.539 --> 00:17:25.740 and having a snack. Disclaimer Only Alice can 00:17:25.740 --> 00:17:28.680 effortlessly pull off that look. You may also 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:31.680 experience laughing hysterically due to feelings 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:35.119 of accomplishment. taking yourself out for ice 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:37.799 cream like the damn legend you are, realizing 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:41.099 that crying is genderless. The worst side effect 00:17:41.099 --> 00:17:43.880 that has been reported is realizing your problems 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:47.140 will take time to solve. It's time to face your 00:17:47.140 --> 00:17:49.980 trauma before your next meltdown and start therapy, 00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:52.940 because healing is cheaper than bailing you out 00:17:52.940 --> 00:17:58.980 of jail. Oh, welcome. So tell me, when did you 00:17:58.980 --> 00:18:01.700 start blaming others for your lack of serotonin? 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:07.740 This message is brought to you by Stoney. Welcome 00:18:07.740 --> 00:18:11.319 back. Today we're speaking with musician and 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:15.420 curator, Elia Einhorn, who is one of the producers 00:18:15.420 --> 00:18:19.599 of Tronza, a project spotlighting trans and non 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:24.319 -binary artists. During our snack break, Stoney 00:18:24.319 --> 00:18:28.259 looked at me, blinked once, and said, I just 00:18:28.259 --> 00:18:32.430 decided. Elia is the unofficial diplomat of the 00:18:32.430 --> 00:18:37.670 Nation of Artists. Holy fantastical poppy cuteness. 00:18:38.029 --> 00:18:43.690 I agree. Let's get back to our interview. It 00:18:43.690 --> 00:18:46.210 wasn't long ago that you and I could now be in 00:18:46.210 --> 00:18:47.950 the same room if we were, or that I could now 00:18:47.950 --> 00:18:50.089 be married to my husband because I'm a person. 00:18:51.430 --> 00:18:55.619 Music did so much to move us forward. And we 00:18:55.619 --> 00:18:58.940 forgot how we spoke of people of other skin tones. 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:02.000 Really, it was not long ago. And so to talk about 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:05.779 our fellow humans in such a degrading way, it 00:19:05.779 --> 00:19:08.299 doesn't make sense that you would not have equal 00:19:08.299 --> 00:19:11.460 rights. It's embarrassing. And you know, I was, 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:13.980 as we're speaking now, you're in Germany, and 00:19:13.980 --> 00:19:16.859 I was just in Germany last week, this time last 00:19:16.859 --> 00:19:18.839 week, I was in Cologne to do an artist interview 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:22.680 weekend fest. And I was literally embarrassed 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:24.960 by the way our country was going at that point. 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:27.220 And, you know, I got back the day before the 00:19:27.220 --> 00:19:28.960 election, and of course, our country made the 00:19:28.960 --> 00:19:31.059 decision it made, which I find reprehensible 00:19:31.059 --> 00:19:35.680 and heartbreaking. But it's embarrassing. When 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:40.160 I go back to my other home of Britain, I'm embarrassed. 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:43.019 I'm embarrassed about what America does. And, 00:19:43.220 --> 00:19:45.019 you know, it's not just us, right? I mean, there 00:19:45.019 --> 00:19:48.819 is civil rights issues in every country. around 00:19:48.819 --> 00:19:54.500 the world, but it's embarrassing, so unnecessary. 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:57.240 Hopefully we're making a tiny difference, right? 00:19:57.240 --> 00:20:01.839 Moving the needle a tiny bit. Here is how trans 00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:05.000 and non -binary people contribute to the world. 00:20:05.819 --> 00:20:08.880 If you've ever used a phone, thank a trans woman, 00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:14.079 Lynne Conway, who helped invent modern microchip 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:19.380 design. This is just one person. So if you really 00:20:19.380 --> 00:20:24.039 are anti -trans, that means no phones, no Spotify, 00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:27.660 no YouTube, no Interweb, and good luck out there. 00:20:28.759 --> 00:20:32.720 Why wouldn't we want to include others? But since 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:35.920 we are all about money, including trans and non 00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:39.259 -binary people is the right thing to do. It's 00:20:39.259 --> 00:20:41.839 great for the economy. More jobs, more innovation, 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:46.400 more Spotify playlists, more kindness. So being 00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:49.740 inclusive is good for business and for your soul. 00:20:50.400 --> 00:20:53.980 Think of it as investing in kindness with excellent 00:20:53.980 --> 00:20:59.019 returns and discrimination. Well, that is actually 00:20:59.019 --> 00:21:22.049 a really big budgeting error. The title of the 00:21:22.049 --> 00:21:24.869 background track is, Something is happening, 00:21:25.190 --> 00:21:27.809 and I may not fully understand, but I'm happy 00:21:27.809 --> 00:21:31.730 to stand for the understanding. This is a collaboration 00:21:31.730 --> 00:21:36.029 between Andre 3000, Carlos Nino, Dear Tony Parks, 00:21:36.490 --> 00:21:40.690 Nate Mercero, Diego Gayeta, Matthew David, Shabaka, 00:21:41.150 --> 00:21:47.160 and BCR. You work on such beautiful projects. 00:21:47.380 --> 00:21:49.759 You really do a lot for humanity. You and your 00:21:49.759 --> 00:21:56.220 friend. Oh, gosh. I find myself wanting to disagree, 00:21:56.220 --> 00:21:58.240 so I'm going to take your therapist's advice 00:21:58.240 --> 00:22:02.180 and exhale and say, thank you. Helena, thank 00:22:02.180 --> 00:22:07.640 you. I love it. I will say this. There's a show 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:10.059 on Broadway right now here in New York called 00:22:10.059 --> 00:22:12.900 Sucked, and it's about the suffragist movement 00:22:12.900 --> 00:22:15.880 and my daughter has become obsessed with it. 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:18.339 I've never seen her become obsessed with anything 00:22:18.339 --> 00:22:20.920 like this. We've seen this show three times on 00:22:20.920 --> 00:22:23.799 Broadway and we also went to their DD release 00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:27.279 party and she got she's gotten to like meet Shayna 00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:31.059 Taub who wrote it and it's amazing to see a seven 00:22:31.059 --> 00:22:36.640 -year -old girl understanding oppression but 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:40.059 also seeing this opportunity change the game 00:22:40.059 --> 00:22:44.160 right and there's this lyric in it that makes 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:46.740 me cry every time and my daughter laughs at me 00:22:46.740 --> 00:22:48.779 because I weep every time they sing this in the 00:22:48.779 --> 00:22:53.140 show but the women in the show are they're marching 00:22:53.140 --> 00:22:56.480 against injustice on the Washington Mall and 00:22:56.480 --> 00:22:58.480 they're saying I want my daughter to know I was 00:22:58.480 --> 00:23:00.460 here you know I want my sister to know I was 00:23:00.460 --> 00:23:05.880 here and I want that with this struggle For the 00:23:05.880 --> 00:23:08.559 trans community, I want my daughter to know I 00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:12.160 was here. And the same for climate justice and 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:15.019 the same with helping people who have drug addiction 00:23:15.019 --> 00:23:21.500 problems. I wanna be part of a tiny part of something 00:23:21.500 --> 00:23:24.460 pushing back against these problems. And I want 00:23:24.460 --> 00:23:27.099 my daughter and her kids, if she decides to have 00:23:27.099 --> 00:23:30.259 kids, to know that I was here and that I was 00:23:30.259 --> 00:23:35.700 doing that. We are ridiculously proud of Elia 00:23:35.700 --> 00:23:39.839 and his mates, Massima Bell, Dust Reid, Katie 00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:43.740 Garcia, Terrence Thomas and executive producer 00:23:43.740 --> 00:23:47.259 John Carlin. Thank you for producing Transur, 00:23:47.779 --> 00:23:51.039 an album that's uniting humanity and keeping 00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:55.140 trans and LGBTQIA+ rights in the headlines. 00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:59.740 Transa demonstrates the power of conversations, 00:24:00.180 --> 00:24:02.920 being yourself and the beauty of collaborating 00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:06.519 for the best interest of humanity. This is a 00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:09.859 big loving in your face to all the people who 00:24:09.859 --> 00:24:14.019 say get a real job, a career. Art does not do 00:24:14.019 --> 00:24:20.420 anything for society, especially music. To them 00:24:20.420 --> 00:24:24.099 Stoney and I offer a message wrapped in colour. 00:24:24.839 --> 00:24:28.079 cushioned with kindness, a grooving bassline, 00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:31.700 and a little chaos. Because we've seen you out 00:24:31.700 --> 00:24:34.339 of rhythm, and we know you love the glitter. 00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:38.059 So stop fighting by a rhythm, and you'll no longer 00:24:38.059 --> 00:24:41.740 be bitter. Oh wow, look! You've got great rhythm! 00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:46.480 But in all seriousness, we exist in a world where 00:24:46.480 --> 00:24:50.819 living authentically can be life thrashing. So, 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:56.019 stay safe. Safety first. Always, always. And 00:24:56.019 --> 00:24:59.059 Stoney and I, we're not just rushing for you. 00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:02.099 We're also imagining the outfit you're wearing 00:25:02.099 --> 00:25:08.000 while changing the world. And wow, you look amazing. 00:25:08.619 --> 00:25:11.420 Not that you need to dress up to do so, but we 00:25:11.420 --> 00:25:15.859 can tell you feel great. Aw, you even inspired 00:25:15.859 --> 00:25:19.900 Stoney. She's sewing us matching outfits. Ah, 00:25:19.900 --> 00:25:24.440 I'm so excited. Yes. And if you ever need help, 00:25:24.740 --> 00:25:27.400 here are two resources. More are linked in the 00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:31.779 episode notes. The travelproject .org is 100 00:25:31.779 --> 00:25:36.000 % confidential and free to LGBTQIA plus young 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:40.759 people. And transequality .org, where you can 00:25:40.759 --> 00:25:44.359 find legal resources. Rhythms of Progress is 00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:46.900 not sponsored by these organizations, but you 00:25:46.900 --> 00:25:49.859 deserve to know what is available for you. And 00:25:49.859 --> 00:25:52.920 seriously, you are not alone. I know it may feel 00:25:52.920 --> 00:25:56.099 that way sometimes, but you are not. And if anyone 00:25:56.099 --> 00:25:59.640 says otherwise, send them our way. Stoney wears 00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:04.079 many hats. She has a PhD in psychology. But first, 00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:07.779 they must have a snack. Then the therapy begins. 00:26:09.299 --> 00:26:12.140 So, stay soft when it suits you, be loud when 00:26:12.140 --> 00:26:14.740 it moves you, and don't let them confuse you. 00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:19.420 Stoney and I are celebrating anyone who worked 00:26:19.420 --> 00:26:22.839 on Transa. by knocking this glass of water off 00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:29.519 the counter and into a plant. We're not wasteful. 00:26:29.900 --> 00:26:34.220 It's full circle here. Enjoy listening to Tronza. 00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:38.039 It is a haven of sounds and safety with friends 00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:41.740 sharing their journey towards empowerment. This 00:26:41.740 --> 00:26:44.619 episode was produced, mixed and recorded by Shozzett 00:26:44.619 --> 00:26:48.190 Silva. transition music, parody commercial and 00:26:48.190 --> 00:26:50.750 soundtrack was by them as well. Special thanks 00:26:50.750 --> 00:26:54.849 to 91 .3 WVUD, the voice of the University of 00:26:54.849 --> 00:26:57.710 Delaware, where parts of this episode were recorded. 00:26:58.369 --> 00:27:00.950 And special thanks to Dave and Steve for being 00:27:00.950 --> 00:27:03.970 my accidental mentors and helping me figure things 00:27:03.970 --> 00:27:07.589 out. And as always, honuor your rhythm.