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I think it's been helpful having some of these medical conditions because I have to find

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balance and that's one thing that I love with this program is that it offers the flexibility

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for balance.

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Welcome back to Weighing In with Patrick, the meeting after the meeting podcast.

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And this is part two of my conversation with Amy.

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We still have a third part to release.

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This conversation took place at the Weighing In with Patrick home office last weekend.

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And following up part one where Amy spoke about her career and her upbringing and some

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things that have caused her pain and have challenged her and have helped also shape

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the person that she is today.

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And in part two of our conversation, she'll talk a little bit about, well, she'll talk

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about her health and some of the health issues that she's had over the years that have complicated

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her, shall we say, weight loss landscape.

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And if you can't get inspired after listening to a person like Amy talk about everything

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she's been up against and yet still seems to face the world and face life with a spirit

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of hope and energy.

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And again, it was a real pleasure.

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So why don't you stay tuned after our conversation because I'll share some final thoughts.

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Boys and girls, your attention please.

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Presenting a new exciting radio program featuring the thrilling adventures of an amazing and

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incredible personality.

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Welcome back to the only podcast dedicated to a local community of Weight Watchers devotees.

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And now here's the podcast sherpa himself, Mr. Fantastic Patrick Holt.

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I don't, you know, I don't want to have outbursts like my mom.

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Like I made sure to put myself through counseling, so I wouldn't.

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And I think if my husband could say it, he would agree.

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I'm not.

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Yes, I certainly have attributes like both my parents.

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I'm structured like my father and I do love the cooking and doing things from scratch

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and all that like my mom.

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And I like to be creative.

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But I feel like that's hopefully where it stops.

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So you know, we all have those painful experiences in life.

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That's not to say that should be minimized.

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Right.

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It makes you who you are.

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What do you think would be?

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How might you be less than who you are now?

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Had you not been through all of that stuff?

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Does that make sense?

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Yeah, no, it absolutely does.

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I because I definitely think it made me strong inside.

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I mean, even to because from the outside, everything looked perfect.

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You know, from the outside, my friends, anyone that wasn't around the kind of my family

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dynamic, everything looked perfect.

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You know, we sat in the exact same pew at church.

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Everything looked perfect from the outside.

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Once again, it was appearances.

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There's one word that I can look back at my family and say, you know, that was it to me,

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that's a very negative thing.

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Like you're doing things just for appearances, like so behind closed doors, things are not

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as happy as they seem.

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So you know, it definitely it made me have a good, stronger core.

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Some of it just might be like you if you ever heard people talk being from Boston or New

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England, they'll say like they're not nice, but they're kind.

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And you know, it kind of resonates.

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I really hope that people can see me as a kind person.

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But I can have a hard at or shell sometimes.

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Because it's it's my protection mechanism.

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It's just what you do.

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You put I can and I can way too easily put that wall up if I need to, whether it's work

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or anywhere, I can put that wall up so quickly.

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But I know how to take it down brick by brick as I need to now.

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Right.

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But I will put it up to protect myself.

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So you have a good it sounds like you have a good sense.

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You have kind of a good radar who to trust and who not to trust.

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I keep a very small circle of people, but most people in my circle don't know anything

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about my past.

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Just because it's not it doesn't define me.

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It might have helped shaped me, but it didn't define me.

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You talked a little bit about how you internalized kind of the messaging you were getting kind

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of living in a particular milieu of your family kind of led to some disorder eating, which

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is serious stuff.

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Like many folks, you're sitting across the table from somebody who's tried several different

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means to lose weight.

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How many times do you think over the years you've made an attempt to lose weight, even

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if it was like a day or two before it fell apart or you stop?

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Just to estimate, guesstimate.

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I mean, over 20 times.

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I mean, I can definitely recall how many times even my husband and I both did Atkins because

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we're like, Oh, our clothes are fitting a little tight.

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So we would be like, let's do Atkins.

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You know, you'd make it maybe like four weeks and then all of a sudden you'd be like, if

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I have to see another piece of bacon, I'm going to die.

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You couldn't do it.

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And then Mediterranean diet.

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I've done Mediterranean diet.

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I don't know how many cookbooks I've bought that are certain.

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What was that?

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South Beach diet.

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I bought so many of those.

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Plus, yeah, just the, Oh, I'm just going to eat a little lighter this week.

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I'm just going to play around and be like, eat fewer carbs.

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I've hired nutritionists.

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So before this last round of coming back to Weight Watchers, I hired nutritionists trying

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so many different things because we just couldn't figure out why I kept hitting stalls.

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And so I was like, well, maybe this is faulty, so we'll try this.

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Maybe this is faulty.

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We'll try this.

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So what do you think is the craziest diet or plan that you ventured into?

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Honestly, I'd say the Atkins because it's crazy.

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There were zero carbs, meat, and it didn't matter how fatty the meat was.

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And just looking back, I'm like, like South Beach wasn't as bad.

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I still don't like that you couldn't eat the fruit as quickly and all that, but it was

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a little closer to like a Mediterranean.

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But yeah, definitely.

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I'd say the Atkins.

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I mean, outside of just not eating because obviously that was the most extreme I ever

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did was just not trying to have as few calories.

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I think I was only trying to get like 300 calories at that time in high school per day.

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So that was the craziest.

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But outside of that, when I would say Atkins, looking back, like, yeah, let's just have

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some cheese wrapped in meat and be like...

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And you'd fill up because it's all protein, but nobody's checking your cholesterol level,

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your blood pressure, none of that because you're just like, oh, I lost 10 pounds.

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I'll make the assumption that you lost weight on Atkins.

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I did.

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How much did you lose on Atkins?

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I think I lost 10, 15 pounds on Atkins, but it wasn't...

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I couldn't keep it off.

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So when you stopped, I will make another assumption.

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You feel free to correct me if I got it wrong.

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But once you stopped, I'm going to guess that the weight returned at some point.

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Oh, very quickly.

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The weight returned and I gained more weight back.

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Did you have that experience prior to that or after that?

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When I did South Beach, the same thing happened.

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And pretty much anything that I'd call a diet, that would happen.

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The only time it hasn't happened is when I...

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Really it was Weight Watchers, but you have to follow the plan.

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If you don't follow the plan, the same thing could happen.

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When I hear folks say, Weight Watchers works, I'm like, no, you work.

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Yeah, Weight Watchers itself works because it puts tools in your possession.

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And if you use the tools, but it also isn't a one size fits all.

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As I said, I used to be like, oh, it's zero points.

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I'm going to eat all this stuff.

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And then I'd be like, I'm up two pounds this week.

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I don't understand.

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And I'd be like, oh, that's when I learned fruit.

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Fruit's not my friend.

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Some fruit is, but not all fruit.

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And yeah, so you still have to understand your body and know that that's going to shift

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what worked two years ago may not work now.

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Can I ask, if not, say so, were there any or are there any weight related health concerns

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that popped up throughout the years?

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So like in my case, I developed a wonderful case type two diabetes.

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So I was considered healthy fat by a doctor because so I actually suffer from low blood

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pressure.

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So I typically like try to make sure I have some salty things around.

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Have you met my wife?

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Yes.

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Sometimes I'm like, are you sure you're alive?

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Your blood pressure is insanely low.

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Thankfully, mine's not as low as my father's, but he really has a low, low blood pressure.

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But yeah, so that's why whenever it's normal, I'm always like, no, this isn't good.

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Normal's not good for me.

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I had high blood pressure when I was giving birth and I remember having to stress because

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they were worried it was high.

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And I was like, how am I not dead?

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Like you don't know this is like you're concerned about your average person giving birth and

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having this high a blood pressure.

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She's a premature birth.

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Like you don't understand.

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This is not okay.

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But yeah, no, I they consider me healthy fat.

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My cholesterol was fine.

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You know, I had blood work done.

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The only health issue.

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Well, now I'm aware of two.

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But at the time, the only health issue I had was, you know, knowing I had some cysts in

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my kidneys.

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I knew that back in college.

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But so my parents had testing done.

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But my parents decided that it wasn't critical enough to have any further testing done.

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So I took it upon myself to have my kidney levels every every few years I would have

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blood work done for my kidney levels.

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In hindsight, we probably should have had something done.

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Especially at the request of doctors.

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But you know, so that's why I ended up by having so I did in 2019.

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In October, I had my right kidney removed because it was three times the size it was

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supposed to be.

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And they stopped counting at 50 cysts that were inside of it.

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And so it was putting pressure all the way down to like my tailbone and it was putting

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pressure all the way up behind my rib cage.

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Like it was.

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Yeah, it was crazy.

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So yeah, I had that but it wasn't weight related.

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We don't know why we're really not sure what happened.

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And it's I had they did genetic testing as well.

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Levine cancer in atrium was great at doing helping me with all the genetic testing, making

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sure there's nothing familial that I could have passed on to, you know, you know, giving

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birth and stuff.

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And thankfully there wasn't I have that odd unilateral polycystic kidney disease.

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So I still have to get my kidney level tested every single year blood work done.

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Because we don't know why I have cysts only on one kidney.

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We don't know if that ever could come to my only good kidney.

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So I have to do that.

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And my just for the record, my kidney levels every year when I would get or every few years

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when I'd get it tested growing up, they were fine because my good kidney was working overtime

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for the bad kidney.

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So they gave it when they went to take it out, they said they gave it maybe a maximum

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of five years before it'd be completely dead.

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I think it was like 25% functional through one of like those color testing, you know,

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when they could see everything going through.

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It was literally like ping ponging through with all the cysts.

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So I had that but that wasn't weight related.

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And then I have I had a hysterectomy done in the summer and because they diagnosed me

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with adenomyosis and the hysterectomy will cure it.

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Well when they did the hysterectomy, they found out that I had endometriosis and they

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think I'd had it for 20 years for the extent they had like clean out of me.

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They couldn't remove it off of an ovary and they couldn't remove it off of my colon.

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So I still have it growing.

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Because when you have endometriosis, I've learned you will always have it.

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So yeah, so I have that and that explains so much of my pain.

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I still get flare ups.

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I had it one couple weeks.

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Was it last week?

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A couple times now on Saturdays, I've come in and it'll feel like I am having like is

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my appendix going to rupture?

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I don't know.

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And and but it'll go away after usually about 30 minutes to an hour.

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So that's how I'll know like, oh, it's just that.

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But once again, not weight related but can impact weight.

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It might explain why I get more tired and just don't have energy levels aside.

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But that also could be perimenopause.

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It might explain like there's a lot of different things.

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There's so many things that it can explain.

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So yeah, so now I have that.

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And so now we're kind of living through what does that mean?

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I'm wondering if that gave me some asthma because it can go into your lungs.

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It's been found in every organ of the body, endometriosis.

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So for me, they only could look at where I had laparoscopic surgery.

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So we don't know where it went.

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But that's something I'll have to mention to my doctor next week because I using my

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inhaler more.

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And that's odd because I didn't need to.

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So and I've lost weight.

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So you would think, oh, maybe she would need to use her inhaler less now that she's lost

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like 75 plus pounds.

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And it's like, no, I'm actually using it more.

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So I have no idea.

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But yeah, so the only I mean, I've had issues, medical issues, but they're not.

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They don't seem to be weight related.

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So between the endometriosis and the issue with your kidney, like what were the outwards?

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So if somebody didn't know you had that diagnosis, what might they see that was like, you know,

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your outward appearance, your behavior, whatever.

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How would that affect what somebody saw if you walked in the room?

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I don't think most people would probably even realize they didn't even realize like I like

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for the kidney thing, I just I drink a lot of water.

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So when I used to have to go to customers and stuff, I would just explain like, hey,

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just trying to stay really hydrated.

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So I'll take a break now.

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Like I would force myself to keep staying hydrated because now it's just not a matter

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of drink your water.

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It's literally my health.

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My life is at risk.

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I have one kidney and I've got to keep it strong.

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You know, so I yeah.

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So for that, as far as the endometriosis goes, nobody knew I had it.

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I didn't know I had it.

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I mean, I tried to mask the pain whenever I had, you know, horrible monthly pain.

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I tried to mask it.

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I remember traveling for hockey and having to like rent cars and drive in places I wasn't

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familiar with sometimes at night, which is not like, you know, for that kind of gives

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me a little anxiety, but I got over it.

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But I would have horrible pain.

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But like even my daughter couldn't really understand how horrible it was.

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Right.

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Like it was and I was on the bench taking photos and trying to help all the girls.

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Like no, I was just like, nope, just got it buried deep and just keep going.

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So I would tell there was a friend, one of the other moms was a good friend of mine.

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So I would let her know that, hey, like struggling, but going to keep it up, just going to keep

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focusing.

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It wasn't until I collapsed in pain at the deli.

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So I was last April, I was standing in line.

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Like I usually do Sunday mornings.

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I get I get a deli bagel sandwich and I usually I get no cheese on it and I split it in half.

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So that way it's points for two days.

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So I get enjoy it two days and my points are all good.

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So that's how I work.

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That's my little treat.

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But I was standing in line, hadn't ordered yet and didn't even see it coming.

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I knew I was in some pain, but the pain hadn't really gotten too bad yet.

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I collapsed in fainted in pain, hit my hit the table or chair as I fell down, ended up

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by cracking some ribs.

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The pain didn't quite go away.

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They sat me up.

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I can tell you they all know my name in there now.

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When did this happen?

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In April, the very last day of April of last year.

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And so when and then a few days later, so like knew it was like menstrual pain, but

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then I was like, but it's the worst it was had ever gotten.

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And so I was like, well, let's just give it a day or so.

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And if it doesn't go away, well, maybe it is like an appendix or something.

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So I went to the emergency room to see if it was an appendix.

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And I'm telling them like, hey, be careful.

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I can't take most pain medicine.

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So just make sure it's only Tylenol or something.

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Because when you have one kidney, you can't take a lot of pain stuff or a lot of medicine

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in general.

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So I don't really take medicine.

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And I didn't know they'd given me morphine.

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I was shaking.

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I was in so much pain while I was in the emergency room.

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They brought like the warm blankets and stuff and I was shaking in pain.

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And I didn't know I had morphine.

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And I think my husband had asked like, hey, is there anything else you can do?

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Like she's literally shaking.

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They must have shrunk my all of the when they went to try to get blood for me, they had

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to bring in the ultrasound because they couldn't find my veins and stuff.

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And this is what really frustrates me when people have it definitely was a flare up at

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the time and it was adenomyosis.

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But here's what frustrates me.

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It was whether it was just this personal doctor or not.

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They said, just go home.

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You just what I'm what I'm diagnosing you with is bad cramps.

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And all I got to say is to any female, let's say out there that cramps should not like

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for anyone to question how much pain you're in when your body literally physically shuts

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down and you faint due to pain.

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Probably something else going on there.

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Yeah.

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So thankfully I had I already had my yearly appointment with my OB and sent her the results

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from the ER.

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And she said, well, at your like at your request, we're going to redo it.

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And I said, please, please redo everything.

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I can't believe that everything is normal.

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And she immediately said, no, you got adenomyosis.

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She's like, sometimes I'm not sure if people do when we do the hysterectomy, but I'm leaning

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towards it.

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And after I say, good call, I'm glad we did this because you had it.

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She's like, I can actually see you have it.

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Now, if she didn't, she couldn't see I had endometriosis because you don't know until

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you you get in there that you see it.

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So and she was good when I was healing.

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Initially, my OB did not tell me I had endometriosis.

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She wanted me to be healing better and be more functional before she told me because

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she didn't want that to weigh on my mind that like, great, now I have something for the

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rest of my life and we don't know how bad or good it could be in my body.

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Right.

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Though you were not informed.

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Is that to also understand that it's not like they could have provided some particular treatment?

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Oh, they could have.

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I mean, they could have they could have said, you know, I guess if I'd had the right doctors,

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it started earlier in my 20s being told when I'd go and complain about how bad my cramps

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would be, they would say, oh, well, we're just just keep staying on birth control.

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And that's why I was on it was to help alleviate my cramps.

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And they said, you know, I would I would be told kind of in a condescending way, sweetie,

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you just need to have kids and everything will be so much better for you.

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And I actually believed that.

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Now I didn't have, you know, a kid because of that.

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But I was like, OK, maybe things will get better.

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Maybe that's nature's way of, you know, you mean having children was not a medical decision.

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No, it was.

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But but yeah, so I and I've heard other people in different communities talk

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about having the exact same thing.

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They were either just put on medication to mask what was going on or they were told,

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oh, just, you know, pregnancy will be a blessing for you in that regard.

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And I will say the odd thing is when I was pregnant, most like a lot of my friends were

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like, oh, my back hurts or this hurt.

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I was like, oh, my pain is gone.

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I actually had no back pain.

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I had nothing like I mean, I had the horrible.

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Morning sickness that lasted for six months.

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So I had that, which was not fun.

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I was losing too much weight.

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But I yeah, I did not.

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I did not.

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I actually had to do about that.

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A bunch of different attempts to drop weight, a bunch of different methods to drop weight.

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And then at some point, Weight Watchers got on your radar.

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What happened?

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How did you get introduced to Weight Watchers?

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I think it was a coworker.

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I'm fairly certain it was a coworker and I was sick of fad diets and I'm pretty sure

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it was a coworker and there was some promo going on.

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Thanks to Weight Watchers, always doing promos that got me going, oh, well, that's not too

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much money to spend and to try it and see how it works.

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So this is my third time back at Weight Watchers.

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And each time I stopped, it was because I got frustrated with the plateau and I wouldn't

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get past it.

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This is the only time where I've still had plateaus this time around, which is why it's

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been kind of slow and steady when there's a race in my head this time around.

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But I've had plateaus where I had a whole three months where it was pretty much I was

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like either up point two, down point four, up point two.

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And I was like, okay, we're going to get past it.

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We're just going to figure it out.

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Let's try not having some of these or cutting back on this or eating this, trying different

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things.

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And just I remember because I always, for some reason, my husband does not require me

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to do this, but I always text him up point two, the same, last point two, last two, last

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1.8, whatever it is, I text him every time.

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But this time around, I was like, yeah, you've probably noticed I haven't been texting you

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updates.

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I'm still going to the weigh-in, but I'm kind of frustrated.

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And he's very supportive, but I want to stick with it.

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And he was like, okay, then stick with it.

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And I was like, yeah, I think I just need to stick with it.

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And even with the surgery, because I gained weight with the surgery, I think it was just

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water retention, but I gained weight with the surgery.

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I didn't let that set me down.

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I was like, that's fine.

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You know what?

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I might have two months, three months where clearly I'm not able to exercise and all that.

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I was like, nope, we're just still doing this.

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So I feel proud of myself this time around that it's the longest I've been on it.

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So I joined on my birthday in 2022 in May.

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And I, yes, it's taken longer to lose the weight than maybe I kind of wanted because

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I built a spreadsheet for myself that was like, if I lost 0.5 pounds every week, this

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is how long it would take me to hit a goal.

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And that's not good, but I'm a detailed person.

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So I kind of liked having that.

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But then that sets me back when I don't meet those things.

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So I was like, no, I got to ditch this.

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And I just got to say, it's just what I'm doing.

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What will happen when you reach your goal weight?

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So I have a goal weight with my doctor.

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So I got him to write a note.

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I'm close.

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I'm about 10 pounds, I think, away from that weight.

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That's what he and I decided was healthy given, and he doesn't even know I've been to endometriosis,

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but that's what with my kidney issue, because he thought that was healthy was to like a

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certain amount.

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So that's that's kind of my goal weight.

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But that's kind of like the highest lowest I want to be.

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I would like to go lower than that.

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I don't know what my body can handle without throwing off numbers, right?

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Like I don't want to have my blood pressure go too low.

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I don't like I don't know what that is.

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So I know that that weight is technically higher than if you look at BMI and all that

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stuff.

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It's higher than that should be.

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But I also know that my doctor is okay with that weight.

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And it's 50 pounds less than I've been at both of my well, the last surgery.

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That's why this past surgery, I was like, well, at least they safely removed my kidney

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and I was like 230 pounds.

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So this time around, I was below 200 pounds when I had hysterectomy and I was like, like,

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it's a little when sometimes where you're like, I know I'm healthy enough to have surgery,

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like that my weight is not a concern.

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So I I want to get so like 175 is what my doctor said for me.

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And then I'll just kind of play around, I guess, and see, do I go lower?

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Is it maintainable?

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But you actually made a great comment to me one time when I said I was having these plateaus

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and you said, well, we should know how to maintain.

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And it was such great wisdom because it made me realize, well, dang, you're right.

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Like only going up point for up point two and down point two, I basically have been

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like hovering over a number for months.

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And it gave me so much confidence to be like, I could do maintenance.

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Yeah.

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Like, you don't you know, you get stressed out over sometimes hitting these plateaus

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or whatever.

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And to put it into that type of perspective, it's like, that's actually kind of cool to

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think that that's possible.

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Well, and that's, you know, we're apparently we're going to be talking next week in our

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meeting about breaking through a plateau.

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And I've said it before, about I have shared my view on plateaus.

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And I believe they are inherently valuable and they should be treated like just really

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good friends that you want to keep around for a while.

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Right.

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And I think that that mindset that we get into where we are just hammering away on the

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idea, I must lose.

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I must lose.

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I must lose.

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Well, my question earlier about if you hit your goal weight, what's next?

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Technically, ideally, a plateau.

473
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,280
Yeah, yeah, I'm fine.

474
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,720
Like, so when I hit my goal weight, I will be fine.

475
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:47,000
And my husband actually he asked me a great question because he said, for all the years

476
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:53,400
he's known to me, he said, have have I and it was a great it was a great thing.

477
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,840
Have I ever been okay with my weight?

478
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:56,840
And he's right.

479
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,840
I haven't for 20 and it's been more than this many years.

480
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,920
I've not been okay with my weight.

481
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:09,440
I've always wished I weighed less or wish I fit into clothes differently or a different

482
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,600
size clothes.

483
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,480
And I think part of it maybe is just age.

484
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,920
I don't care anymore.

485
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:23,080
Yeah, like there's just bigger things, more important things that I could be worried about

486
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:28,520
than that, then whether I'm in like, I used to be like, I need to be in a size like six

487
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:29,520
or eight.

488
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:30,800
I'm in a 14 right now.

489
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,320
If I stay in a 14, just that's okay.

490
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,720
You know, I still could lose 10 pounds and stay in this size.

491
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:42,280
Like I've only gone down to clothing sizes, losing over 75.

492
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,520
I think I'm like at 77 pounds or so.

493
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,420
I've only gone down to clothing sizes.

494
00:30:46,420 --> 00:30:49,200
So it just shows you like, that's okay.

495
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,740
Like it's not about how many clothing sizes you've dropped.

496
00:30:52,740 --> 00:30:56,920
You could potentially go down more clothing sizes and have lost less weight.

497
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,840
It's just do I feel healthier than I was?

498
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,520
I feel more in control than I was.

499
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:11,160
And that means more than like what size I'm wearing.

500
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,580
Although I will say there is gratitude to knowing that I can officially just buy size

501
00:31:14,580 --> 00:31:17,060
larges in things and they fit.

502
00:31:17,060 --> 00:31:18,680
There is some of that I will say.

503
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:24,080
Like that having always bought an extra large or an XXL for so many years, there is definitely

504
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,360
some gratitude in that, but I'm trying not to take it so lightly and really appreciate

505
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,360
it.

506
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,160
I thought you made some great points there.

507
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,920
Since you're from Massachusetts, I will throw some Henry David throw at you.

508
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:44,080
There's a quote I read recently and it's been bouncing around in my head and hopefully I

509
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,080
don't butcher it.

510
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:51,720
But it doesn't necessarily matter what you're looking at, it matters what you see.

511
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,440
And that's still a work in progress for me.

512
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,480
I got a full length mirror at Christmas.

513
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,400
I told my husband, I was like, we got to stop with these like half mirrors.

514
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,360
I don't know why we moved into this house and we always have one hanging in the back

515
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:05,360
of the door or whatnot.

516
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,440
And for some reason we didn't move it this time around.

517
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,280
And it's been like 10 years or so that we've been living in our house.

518
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,320
And I think my daughter has one, but I'm not going to go in her room and use the full length

519
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,240
mirror in the back of her closet.

520
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,720
So I was like, we need to get one, but I want a cute one and all that.

521
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:29,440
And I look at myself and usually my immediate reaction is like, oh.

522
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:36,960
And then I just have to be like, but wait, what would I have said to myself when I was

523
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,920
like 77 pounds heavier?

524
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:44,560
If I'm saying that now, and that's the old mindset that I've had for so many years where

525
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,680
my husband's right, but you've never been happy with your weight.

526
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,800
I was in the 160s when I met him and was trying to lose some weight.

527
00:32:54,800 --> 00:33:00,520
And now to think of the 160s, I'd be like, oh my gosh, give that to me now.

528
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,640
It's crazy though.

529
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,120
When would I be satisfied?

530
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,360
And I have to think it can't be a number.

531
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,200
It just has to almost be a feeling.

532
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,520
Yes, I know there's numbers because Weight Watchers uses numbers and my doctor likes

533
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,520
numbers.

534
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,040
You can't ignore the number, but I think there's also a feeling.

535
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:29,760
So this time around and I'm okay with that number being whatever it is that we, between

536
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,000
my doctor and my own self figure out it to be.

537
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,000
Yeah.

538
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,840
I was talking to Bruce this morning before the meeting started.

539
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:43,520
I was telling him that there's been this argument going on between my clothes and the scale

540
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,760
that I get on every morning.

541
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:52,440
And the scale is telling me that I seem to be, especially over the last four weeks, like

542
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,880
I'm up a net, I'll just call it two pounds.

543
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:08,720
However, I kind of recommitted probably three or four weeks ago to do a strength training.

544
00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:12,920
And this week I really got back into movement, right?

545
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,960
Starting to walk and trying to, I don't jog and I don't run.

546
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,640
I slog and I just do the slow jog thing.

547
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:25,520
My body is definitely changing to where I can see a difference.

548
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,760
And my clothes are like, absolutely.

549
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:32,560
This is a good thing what's going on right now.

550
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:38,800
But if I just look at that freaking scale and that's my only metric of, we'll use the

551
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,840
word we used earlier, success, I'm screwed.

552
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:49,400
Is there ever going to be anything that's going to make me feel like, okay, I'm doing

553
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,920
all right here?

554
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:58,360
I still got to remind myself that I'm right at what my weight was when I graduated high

555
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,360
school.

556
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:04,040
And when I graduated high school, I spent a good six months starving myself.

557
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,040
Right?

558
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,120
You know what I mean?

559
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:12,800
And so when I got out of high school and returned to regular behavior, suddenly, like you can

560
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:18,360
actually, I have seen photographs of that summer.

561
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,960
You could see the weight coming back on.

562
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:22,960
Right?

563
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:29,600
And so really just this idea that we, these plateaus, we've got to just burst through.

564
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:36,000
And Johanna talked about the email, an email she got from WW about, you're looking to get

565
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,200
through a plateau?

566
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,200
Try one of our GLP-1s.

567
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,880
And I want to be real clear.

568
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,240
I'm a big believer in GLP-1s if you need it.

569
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:51,960
Whether that is your blood sugar, to regulate your blood sugar, or if you really need help

570
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:59,160
in taking the edge off some of those, when we get the munchies and I used to get-

571
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,160
The noise, right?

572
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,280
Yeah, the food noise.

573
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:08,880
So I will never begrudge anybody who needs that kind of kickstart.

574
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:14,120
And whether you use it temporarily or whether that's a long-term solution for you, that's

575
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:21,520
like telling somebody who has cancer, if you're getting radiation treatment, you're cheating.

576
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,320
Oh, exactly.

577
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:30,440
Getting healthy through medicinal means is, that's not, you know what?

578
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,440
Stop it.

579
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,840
I don't want to hear that.

580
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:41,040
So we're going to hear about how to break through a plateau next week.

581
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:48,800
I'm looking forward to hearing what folks, how they think about plateaus.

582
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,280
Yeah, I think plateaus should heat you grace.

583
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,680
Just like, you know, whether you go to a party and you decide you want to eat that piece

584
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,680
of cake, give yourself grace.

585
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,320
Like, that's what I love about Weight Watchers.

586
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,080
It's not, I'm still able to eat food.

587
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,320
It was funny that she brought up the Mexican restaurant because my husband, on Thursday,

588
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:15,400
he said, he knows I don't go out to eat if I can help it on a Friday.

589
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,320
Because I just, I'd like to control the sodium and everything else, you know?

590
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,320
And so Thursday night, he's like, where do you want to go?

591
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,560
Do you want to go out to eat?

592
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,280
And it just been stressful week for both of us at work.

593
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,600
And I was like, I'll go out.

594
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,880
You don't have to tell me twice.

595
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:30,960
I don't have to make dinner.

596
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,520
I've made it and I've gotten on the treadmill like the times I wanted to.

597
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,040
Like, yes, I will go out.

598
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,040
And he just looked at me and he's like, Mexican?

599
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:46,040
And so we went to Chirondah's, but the one in Fort Vale because I lived up there.

600
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:53,880
And I don't have the, I do drink once in a while, but probably like once a month.

601
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,760
I don't, I just don't find I need it as much anymore.

602
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,960
I leaned on it too much during COVID when everyone was doing virtual happy hours and

603
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:02,960
stuff.

604
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:03,960
And I was like, oh, we're not driving anywhere.

605
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,360
And because that's my big rule.

606
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,760
I will not have a drink, even just a sip and get behind the wheel of a car.

607
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,960
So I, you're the designated driver.

608
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,960
Well, or my husband, cause he doesn't either.

609
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,000
But yeah, I won't.

610
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,760
So at least I'm not tempted by that when we go there.

611
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,680
But I was like, yeah, I'm going to have chips and salsa, but I'm going to, I know how many

612
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:23,680
chips to eat.

613
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,520
So when I got up to like six chips, I was like, okay, we got to really start.

614
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:28,600
Is it worth it to have more?

615
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,320
And I was like, I'm not going to wait.

616
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,240
And then we got the steak and chicken fajitas to split.

617
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:38,720
And so it was so funny because she literally is like bringing up this right today.

618
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:42,520
But I was just like, I'm like, oh yeah, we got the fajitas, but here's what I do when

619
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,320
we get the fajitas to split.

620
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,160
You know, they give you a plate.

621
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:52,820
I take the chicken and some steak and the veggies and I put it on my plate.

622
00:38:52,820 --> 00:38:57,160
And then I take some lettuce that's on like the side thing they give you.

623
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,320
And I put the lettuce on my plate.

624
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:06,920
And then I take probably like four spoons or forks of the beans and I put it on my plate

625
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:07,920
and that's my meal.

626
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,440
My husband knows, no, I'm not going to, the flour tortillas are not worth it.

627
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,720
The rice is not worth it.

628
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:17,840
Yeah, I like it, but it's not, I don't need the extra calories, points, whatever you want

629
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,680
to, however you want to look at it.

630
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,720
I basically just make a little bowl for myself.

631
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:25,720
I, you know, they're always like, Oh, do you need more?

632
00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:29,520
And you know, you heard today, I hate server green, so I don't have that problem.

633
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:30,520
There is no case.

634
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:36,040
So I needed like, you know, but yeah, I, that I could easily fit in my points.

635
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:41,480
It's not that hard, like, and, and, you know, there are too many, you know, people commenting.

636
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,200
So I was like, okay, I won't comment.

637
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,200
But I was like, when she said all those things, I'm like, okay, yeah, the margarita could

638
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:52,160
have like definitely hurt the points in the use case they had today.

639
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,440
But I was like, it's not hard.

640
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:01,080
Like I was able to eat and have all that and I very much enjoyed it.

641
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:05,280
But I very much portioned, like instead of keep adding it to my plate.

642
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:10,400
I put on my plate what I felt I was kind of like a fist size or so.

643
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,000
And knowing there were some vegetables, so I made sure that the veggies were more just

644
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,800
a fist size, the meat was a fist size.

645
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,580
And then I just do like the four spoons of that.

646
00:40:19,580 --> 00:40:24,600
And I kind of had to estimate how much I thought I was having of the retry beans and stuff,

647
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:25,600
right?

648
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,000
Because I just don't know if the picture is really doing that.

649
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,760
But so I aired on the side of caution, but I was like, I could have that.

650
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,320
And it was delightful.

651
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,000
And I mean, I ended up losing two pounds this week.

652
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,200
But like it just showed you that like you could still go to the restaurant and you could

653
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,680
still have the fajitas.

654
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:47,800
Now if somebody liked sour cream, if they had to have the rice, if they couldn't hold

655
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,400
themselves back from the chips or the drink, I do understand that that would have that

656
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,040
could have been your entire week's worth of points or more.

657
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,800
I get that.

658
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:02,360
So maybe I'm fortunate in the fact that some of the stuff I absolutely hate is stuff that

659
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,360
does have points.

660
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:10,080
So maybe it's a good thing that absolutely hates sour cream and cream cheese and all

661
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,080
that.

662
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,080
But

663
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:22,040
so over the years when you when you've tried the Mediterranean diet, tried keto, you tried

664
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,920
whatever.

665
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:32,720
Did you learn anything that you seem to be able to apply to the next effort?

666
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:33,720
Yeah.

667
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:39,600
And even with Weight Watchers, the number one thing I learned is that protein can fill

668
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:40,880
you up.

669
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:46,600
So protein like that should be the main basis of anything that you're eating is protein.

670
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:53,520
Now one thing I have to be careful of is protein is processed through your kidneys.

671
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:58,040
So I like where some people could be like, oh, I just have a protein shake for breakfast.

672
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,240
Like I can't it.

673
00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:02,200
I mean, one isn't going to kill me.

674
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:11,280
But yeah, so I that's also one of the reasons I love Weight Watchers because I have to balance.

675
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,160
I have to have some carbs with my protein.

676
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:20,120
Like so I think it's been helpful having some of these medical conditions because I have

677
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,680
to find balance.

678
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:27,840
And that's one thing that I love with this program is that it offers the flexibility

679
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:28,840
for balance.

680
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:29,840
Flexibility.

681
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:51,400
I hope you enjoyed the part two.

682
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:58,160
Seriously, you can't get inspired by somebody like Amy, then perhaps.

683
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,880
I don't know.

684
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:12,120
I wonder to myself if I had those types of challenges.

685
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,520
Would I have that type of disposition as well?

686
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:15,520
I don't know.

687
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,080
I really don't.

688
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:23,520
The last bit where she talked about being basically grateful, thankful for her medical

689
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:24,520
issues.

690
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,960
And, you know, it sounds as if they are many.

691
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:33,280
We're not talking about insignificant health issues either.

692
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:39,680
I believe that Amy probably experiences the type of physical pain that would send me over

693
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:40,680
the edge probably.

694
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:47,360
But she's able to maintain, I would assume, for the most part, and even kill it.

695
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,520
Maybe get the better of her from time to time.

696
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:50,520
I would assume.

697
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:51,520
I would have to, right?

698
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,560
It's probably a day she just doesn't, you know, please don't talk to me.

699
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:56,560
Right?

700
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,520
She's quite an individual.

701
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:05,760
Being thankful for my many health problems because it has taught me some things.

702
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,760
What are you thankful for?

703
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:12,920
Is there anything in your life that challenged you, was difficult, really heavy to carry

704
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,920
around, that hurt?

705
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:24,760
It made you feel maybe not so fantastic, but when you look back on it, it seems as though

706
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:25,760
it had value.

707
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:32,520
It taught you something about yourself, about what you're capable of.

708
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:33,520
That's important.

709
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:40,120
Never allow good crisis to go unused.

710
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,120
Right?

711
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:47,800
Anyways, thank you, Amy, for sharing what you shared.

712
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:53,800
We're going to have part three up as soon as we possibly can.

713
00:44:53,800 --> 00:45:02,040
We alluded to the weekly conversation at the meeting for Saturday, March 8th was going

714
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:07,840
to be about plateaus and how to break through them.

715
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,000
I've been pretty vocal about what I think of plateaus.

716
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,920
I think they are an invaluable experience.

717
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:21,280
All of us, I think everybody in the room, I think everybody who is in Weight Watchers,

718
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:28,640
I think anyone who's currently right now anywhere in the universe who's trying to lose weight,

719
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,940
this is not their first attempt.

720
00:45:30,940 --> 00:45:35,400
Maybe it is, but if it is, it's probably not going to be their last.

721
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,640
It's probably not going to be their last based on the stats.

722
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,140
That is a common thread.

723
00:45:41,140 --> 00:45:47,520
If you've been listening to the folks that have been on and have shared their stories,

724
00:45:47,520 --> 00:46:00,760
Rick, Kathy, Bruce, Johanna, Amy, and myself, Courtney, and everybody that's in a Weight

725
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:09,880
Watchers meeting room with you, they have each probably tried to lose weight upwards

726
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,920
10 times in their life.

727
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,720
That is, I think, irrefutable.

728
00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:23,720
That losing weight is, yes, a process associated with the effort that you're currently engaged

729
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:24,720
in.

730
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:34,440
But it is a process, I believe, of many different efforts, and that with each effort that doesn't

731
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:40,680
succeed, you take something from it and with you into the next effort, regardless of when

732
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,560
that next effort is.

733
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:48,440
That's stages of change model.

734
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,320
We have this, think of it as like a pinwheel.

735
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,560
It's really not even like stage one, stage two, stage three, but you kind of go back

736
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:04,200
and forth between these maybe levels, I don't know, where you're thinking about it.

737
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:05,680
Maybe you're not even thinking about it.

738
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,200
I think I've talked about this before.

739
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,040
Before you make a change, you've got to be aware that there's a change.

740
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:18,520
Sometimes, for years, I didn't think I should make a change or I could make a change, so

741
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,160
I didn't think about changing anything.

742
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,880
That's known as pre-contemplation, before I even start thinking about it.

743
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,640
Then you get into the contemplation stage where you're, hmm, should I?

744
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,720
Maybe I should change something.

745
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:33,720
I don't know.

746
00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:34,720
Should I change something?

747
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:37,520
You begin to kind of plot your course.

748
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,920
If I'm going to do it, how am I going to do it?

749
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,880
What am I going to do?

750
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:42,880
Who's going to help me?

751
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,080
Is there a plan that I'm going to plug in?

752
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,360
Am I going to create my own?

753
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,120
Who's going to be there to support me?

754
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:52,120
Then there's action.

755
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,120
Now you're, all right.

756
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,120
I've thought about it.

757
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,120
I've planned it.

758
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,120
Now I'm jumping into it.

759
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,120
I'm going to do it.

760
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:07,240
If you're anything like me, sometimes you've started and it lasted a couple of days, maybe

761
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:11,840
hours, and then you retreat, and then you start all over again.

762
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:17,520
I think Amy said she's tried like 20 times to lose weight.

763
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,280
She was rattling off some of those diets, right?

764
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:21,920
You know what we're talking about.

765
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,840
That's another common thing.

766
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,400
Not only do we all keep trying, but we keep trying different things.

767
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,320
We keep looking for the Holy Grail, the magic formula.

768
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:38,720
What's the, you know, if I just stop eating this one thing, or if I eat according to my

769
00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:48,560
blood type, or if I just eat cabbage soup, or if I eat nothing but red meat, avoid all

770
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,560
carbohydrates.

771
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,160
Like you'll lose weight, but are they sustainable?

772
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,160
Probably not.

773
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:59,160
So another universal truth is that if you are even remotely successful, eventually you

774
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:07,440
will probably hit a weight loss plateau when you stop losing weight at the rate that you

775
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,680
were losing it before.

776
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:16,920
And it's just so like right now, as of March 8th, 2025, when I weighed in today, I'm now

777
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,920
in a four week plateau.

778
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:19,920
I'm cool with it.

779
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:20,920
I'm all right with it.

780
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,920
It's not like, it's not like it's the end of the world.

781
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:28,320
It's an unscheduled maintenance phase, as I have said.

782
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,160
And if I don't lose another pound for the rest of my life, I'm all right with it.

783
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,600
And just because I don't lose another pound, that doesn't mean that I won't gain another

784
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,640
ounce of muscle somewhere.

785
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,880
And it is true.

786
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:46,340
You might lose muscle mass as you're losing weight, but you don't have to.

787
00:49:46,340 --> 00:49:48,120
You can do resistance training.

788
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,080
Amy talked about protein.

789
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,280
Protein intake is really important.

790
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,360
It's really important when you're trying to build muscle too.

791
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:01,860
If you're taking in a lot of protein, but you're not doing things to cause your muscles

792
00:50:01,860 --> 00:50:06,880
to get bigger, you probably won't gain much muscle, if any.

793
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,960
But remember, the more muscle you have, the more likely you are to burn fat.

794
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,440
So you're eating right.

795
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,760
So you're exercising in accordance with that goal.

796
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:21,760
I would tell you there's some really neat forms of exercise.

797
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:29,800
There's something called the Maffetone method that runners employ that has to do with staying,

798
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,880
keeping your heart rate beneath the aerobic threshold.

799
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:38,680
The reason why that's important is when you are underneath your, you know, like, what

800
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:46,320
is there, the three or there's like four or five different heart rate zones, right?

801
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:51,240
And what the Maffetone method tells you is like, when you're exercising, like if you're

802
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:58,540
running or walking, you should try to stay in zone two about 80% of the time, because

803
00:50:58,540 --> 00:51:08,040
while you're in zone two, your body is drawing off of your fat reserves to fuel the movement.

804
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:14,120
And when you go up into the aerobic zone, it's now going after the sugar inside your

805
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,120
muscles.

806
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,600
And when you're going after the muscles, do you think you're, you know, if you're drawing

807
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:24,320
off the muscles, you're probably not increasing the mass of the muscle.

808
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,320
What's the adage?

809
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,880
Work smarter, not harder.

810
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,280
Maffetone method kind of bears that out.

811
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,880
The other thing about the Maffetone method is the more you do the Maffetone method, the

812
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,600
stronger your heart gets.

813
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:40,280
The idea is that that zone two, you should be able to exercise and have a conversation

814
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,840
at the same time, keeping an eye on your heart rate.

815
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:48,560
But you can look that up on the internet, Maffetone, M-A, F as in Frank, F as in Frank,

816
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:55,000
E, T as in Thomas, O, N as in Nancy, E, Maffetone, or the Maff method.

817
00:51:55,000 --> 00:52:02,640
There's so much about this weight loss experience that is universal between people.

818
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:08,840
And I don't think it matters what race you are, what gender you are, what your occupation

819
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:14,080
is, what your income status is.

820
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:19,000
It doesn't matter if you're single or married, whether you have kids or not, whether you

821
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,120
got dogs and cats or chickens.

822
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:29,040
I think we all have that in our head that this should be easy.

823
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,160
I don't want it to be hard.

824
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:37,120
I don't want to give up the things that I really, really just love to eat that I know

825
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:44,000
are also not helpful to maintaining a healthy weight or at least really kind of, now you

826
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,640
cut them out, but boy, you don't make them a staple, right?

827
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,640
They become more of a treat that you don't have every day.

828
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:59,760
And I know that I really struggled with figure out a way through it, through it.

829
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,320
Can't really go around, can't really go underneath it.

830
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:06,720
You got to go through it and you got to think about it.

831
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:12,280
You got to think about yourself in a different way.

832
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:18,000
We don't plan for these unscheduled maintenance phases.

833
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:24,960
And I think that that really ought to be one of the first things we hear about when we

834
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:25,960
join.

835
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,400
Oh yeah, by the way, you're going to have a, you're going to experience something down

836
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:37,080
the road as long as you work your plan and you experience weight loss on your way to

837
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,280
your goal.

838
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:44,160
You're going to, you're going to get into this, what feels like a rut, but it's really

839
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:45,960
a sign of success.

840
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:53,720
And your brain is going to try and play a trick on you and cause you to despair and

841
00:53:53,720 --> 00:53:54,720
clutch your pearls.

842
00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:55,720
Oh, I didn't lose weight.

843
00:53:55,720 --> 00:53:56,720
What am I going to do?

844
00:53:56,720 --> 00:54:00,280
This is a waste of time.

845
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,920
I'm going to the bakery.

846
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:09,920
I'm going to go get me a jelly donut or five because I deserve what I want when I want.

847
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:10,920
Nope.

848
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,760
I think we just have this sense of entitlement.

849
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:14,760
I know I don't.

850
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:15,760
I'm going to speak for myself.

851
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:21,040
I would have a sense of entitlement over whether or not I'm going to lose weight this week.

852
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,680
My wonderful wife has said it before.

853
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,640
You don't always get the weight loss you deserve when you deserve to have it.

854
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:30,000
And you don't always get the weight gain you deserve when you deserve to have it.

855
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,480
So start practicing.

856
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,240
You know, if you haven't hit a plateau, plan for it.

857
00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:36,240
It's going to come.

858
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:42,520
What are you going to tell yourself when you get on the scale a third week in a row and

859
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,480
it hasn't budged?

860
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,560
Or maybe it's gone maybe the other way.

861
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,800
Maybe, and I've done everything I'm supposed to do.

862
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,600
This is a waste of time.

863
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:57,640
Well, you're probably going to have that thought because all of us think like that.

864
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,120
I'm not even going to go to the meeting.

865
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:00,760
I'm not going to weigh in.

866
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,080
Why should I bother weighing in?

867
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:03,920
I already know what the result is.

868
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:04,920
You know why?

869
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:12,440
Because you've got to practice getting on that scale and not letting that scale judge

870
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:13,440
you.

871
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:18,320
Judge your worth, your value, and the worth and the value of your effort.

872
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:23,160
It's not just about that number on the scale.

873
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,160
The effort.

874
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:31,800
What are you doing is sometimes a lot more important than what was the result this week.

875
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,120
If you'd like to argue that point, I'm all ears.

876
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:35,920
I would love to have you on.

877
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:36,920
Don't be afraid of the plateaus.

878
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,120
It's a natural part.

879
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,440
It's an unscheduled maintenance phase.

880
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:46,200
And when you hit your goal weight, what comes after that?

881
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:51,200
Six weeks of what they say is maintenance.

882
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:59,760
And if you have been in a plateau and you didn't despair and you didn't panic and you

883
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:06,960
didn't run screaming into the darkness, when you get to the maintenance period, the six

884
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:11,280
weeks of maintenance, you're going to be like, whatever.

885
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,280
It's good.

886
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,280
I've been here before.

887
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,480
I know what it's like.

888
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,920
This is nothing new.

889
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:24,080
I'm comfortable because there's going to come a point when you can't literally lose any

890
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,400
more weight.

891
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,040
What's the payoff going to be from that point on?

892
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:30,400
Right now it's getting on the scale.

893
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:31,720
Oh, I'm down a point.

894
00:56:31,720 --> 00:56:32,720
I'm down a pound.

895
00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:33,960
I'm down a half a pound.

896
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,080
I'm down two pounds.

897
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,080
That's huge.

898
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,080
Right?

899
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,840
Amy talked about sending text messages to family and friends.

900
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:42,840
This is where I'm at.

901
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:43,840
This is where I'm at.

902
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,680
This is what happened at the weigh-in.

903
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:46,680
I did that.

904
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:52,880
I got my friend Rob in Texas.

905
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:59,880
I'd send him a screenshot of the weigh-in result because he knew me in my heaviest.

906
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,400
He knew me in high school.

907
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,280
He kind of came along for the ride in a lot of ways.

908
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:10,160
But that payoff is going to be out the window when you go to maintenance.

909
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:14,720
You can't rely on that to fuel your efforts.

910
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:19,600
What is going to drive you then?

911
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:26,560
I think it comes up in one word, and it's something that I have always struggled with.

912
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,040
I'm really getting better at it as I get older.

913
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,040
Maybe I'm just getting more boring.

914
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,040
I don't know.

915
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,180
The word discipline.

916
00:57:34,180 --> 00:57:36,360
Maintenance is about discipline.

917
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:41,000
Weight loss is about discipline, but you also have a lot of payoffs there.

918
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,000
Take some time.

919
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,840
Go over your whys.

920
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:44,920
Why am I doing this?

921
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:50,120
I don't think anybody is trying to lose weight because it just feels good to get on the scale

922
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,480
and be told, oh, you're down two pounds from last week.

923
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,120
That might keep you coming back, but that's not nobody.

924
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,280
I've never heard anyone say that.

925
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,200
This is why I'm doing Weight Watchers.

926
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,640
I just really love that weigh-in day.

927
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:05,640
Why am I doing that?

928
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,640
I'm enjoying non-scale victories.

929
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:11,360
What can I do now that I haven't been able to do before because I was just too heavy?

930
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:17,160
Gravity had a different relationship with me than it did with some other folks.

931
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:23,120
If you can only like yourself when you're losing weight, uh-oh, better start working

932
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:24,440
on that.

933
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:32,840
Anyways, we are now available, if you are unaware, on several different podcast platforms.

934
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,040
iTunes.

935
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,400
We are on, I believe, Spotify.

936
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:40,880
We are on Podcast Addict.

937
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,720
You can find us at rss.com.

938
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:53,640
I'm still going to be uploading onto audio.com, as has been the norm up until last week.

939
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:59,200
Just so everyone is aware, the only reason why we're more available than we have been

940
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:05,960
is because it would seem that the audio.com platform can really be a bit confusing.

941
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,160
It's not terribly intuitive.

942
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:17,240
I really hope that you enjoyed my conversation with Amy today and that it was helpful to

943
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:18,240
you.

944
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,440
I hope that my ramblings were also somewhat helpful.

945
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,640
I hope to see you at the meeting next weekend.

946
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,480
Make sure you get to the meeting next week.

947
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,680
Whatever you're telling yourself, whatever you think is going to happen at the meeting

948
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,920
or at the weigh-in, don't let it push you around.

949
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:33,920
Get your butt there.

950
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,120
Don't rob people of an opportunity to support you if you need it.

951
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:43,040
And don't rob yourself of the opportunity to support somebody else who might need it.

952
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:49,280
If you would like to be a part of this, and my goal is to have anybody that wants to do

953
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,400
it, and maybe even some of you don't.

954
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:57,360
I'm looking at you, Dottie.

955
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,440
I would like to have a couple.

956
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:05,360
I mean, there's so many people at that meeting that I would love to have on.

957
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:09,360
I'm looking at you, Dorro, and Nancy back there in the back of the room.

958
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:10,480
I would like to have you on.

959
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,760
So shoot me an email or catch me at the meeting.

960
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:21,040
You can send any inquiries, questions, feedback to the inbox, weighinginwithpatrick at gmail.com.

961
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:30,480
I check it almost every minute, and I'm just waiting for somebody to send me a message.

962
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:42,120
We will be releasing the third and final installment of my conversation with Amy, where we, I believe

963
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:46,160
we focus almost entirely on the weight loss journey.

964
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:47,840
I hope you get to listen.

965
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:56,240
I hope you'll want to listen, and this is Patrick reminding you to hang in there, because

966
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:57,240
you can do it.

967
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:58,240
You can do it.

968
01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,240
See you next time.

969
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:19,640
Get out of there, bear!