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in which the show hosts may represent. The Security
Box, Program 270, AI Hallucinations, recorded
Wednesday, April 1, 2026, and released on April
2, 2026. Hello folks, welcome to the Security
Box. This is program 270 for April 1st, 2026
and being released on April 2nd, 2026. The biggest
story that I want to let you know about is an
email that we received from LastPass in regards
to their 2022 breach. I talk about it and what
it looks like. This is so that you are going
to be able to recognize it. We do see that Sean
is back, so hopefully everything is going well.
And I'm sorry we have not really been able to
spend a whole lot of time on the blog. I've been
involved in other stuff. But we do have podcasting
coming up. And this time, we're going to talk
about AI hallucinations. And no, we're not judging
anyone about how they use AI. But we also use
real -world examples that are rewritten in regards
to how we use AI. And it even says I'm using
it responsibly. Because I'm still making my own
decisions. We tie some of the discussion into
Podcasts 268 and 269 for reference. I hope that
each and every one of you will enjoy the program
as much as I am bringing it to you. And until
next podcast, I am Jared Reimer saying thank
you so much for joining us in this journey. Stay
well, stay safe, and make it a great day. Bye.
for program 270. April Aileen and Wicked Ways,
a 2023 single. And April can be found on Apple
Music, iTunes. Well, folks, it's been a very
interesting month. I know I have not blogged,
let alone got any podcasts out. My 40 is on the
way to get repaired, and my 32 is on the way
out. This is one of the oldest Braille senses
out there. This is a Sense 6. It's no longer
being maintained by hymns, now salvas. So I've
ordered an e -reader from the library. It should
be here next week. It is a model by... What's
the name of the company now? Humanware. Hopefully
it'll meet. My needs. At least as a reading device.
Anyhow. I think I want to start with. An email.
I'm not going to read it. But it seems like a
legitimate email. This is talking about the LastPass
2022 breach. Where actors got into LastPass'
systems. Of course it wasn't their doing. They
were technically, in my opinion, as secure as
you can be. As you know from our coverage, the
actors made off with encrypted and unencrypted
LastPass data. I personally haven't seen any
misuse to my knowledge yet. But I did change
the iterations on my account as suggested. Now,
I had a lot of iterations to begin with because
my account, I believe, May have been at something
like 500. I forget the exact number. It doesn't
matter now. But... This... Is going to get very
interesting. They're talking about a huge...
Pot of money, including those who were pilfered
by cryptocurrency theft. The whole goal was to
get at wallets and people who had crypto. Of
course, I don't. There are people that do. And
you'll get a pot of $16 million set aside for
that, while $8 million was set aside for cash
payments. It will have a claim ID and a pin.
And it looks legitimate, folks. And it's coming
from LastPass. Let me just see. The subject line
is LastPass court -ordered notice of class action
settlement. coming from LastPass itself, as in
LastPass .com, but LastPass's name is in the
name. It'll say LastPass Data Security Incident
Litigation. So... Go ahead and take a look at
that. If you see that subject line, you'll want
to pay attention to it. This looks legitimate.
We have until July to file our claims. I'll be
doing this work tomorrow. So, I know I've been
pretty much out of the security loop these days.
And I got so busy that I barely had time to do
the show notes yesterday. I have a pretty good
idea of what we're doing here. And I already
have 271's ideas written down, so we'll be taking
a look at that and putting those in the show
notes. It sounds like there was a lot that was
not known, and that's fine. So, we push forward.
I haven't heard from anybody. Although, one of
our former listeners contacted me by telephone
and said, Is your podcast now six hours? Yes,
the last program was five hours and 58 minutes.
That wasn't... my idea, but I am happy on the
way 269 came out, even with the technical gremlins
in the computer. I still haven't gotten a chance
to re -record the segments, however, from 269,
and I'm not going to touch any of it until I
get the E -reader from the library. And then
we'll be getting to work with trying to finish
out that SANS News Bites from way back in January.
And then we're going to start being current.
It wasn't my idea, but I got sick. There was
a lot of... things happening and so now that
the computer's been here about a month I've been
slowly getting things back up and running and
we'll start putting out the videos that Preston's
been sending me and we'll make it all well and
good ladies and gents But I can't do the podcast
myself, you know. It takes quite a bit for this
podcast. And since we're delving into different
territory, some of which I understand, some of
which I don't. We're using the assistance of
ChatGPT to do it. And hopefully I'll be able
to sit down and spend some time doing these things.
And of course, there have been some personal
things happening, including... A memorial that
I went to. And other events that are coming up.
But I want to know what you're reading in the
security landscape. What you're listening to.
In the security landscape. What is interesting
you. This cannot be just be. Me continuing to
post. The same old things. Because. That's why
this podcast has changed. Through the years.
And. Now I'm having structured. Topics. That.
May have not been talked about before. This will
be the second AI topic. Well, actually, I think
it might be the third. Because AI is now used
in health stuff. 267. Of that program. This program.
This program. Well, I can't believe there's two.
I've done two sets. No. Yeah, well, two sets
of tech programs with 267. Podcasts. 267 AI discussion
show notes. Let me just take a look. around,
folks. All right, let me just see. AI and its
usage was the first one. 269 was personal health
information, of course. We know that that can
change. Because AI is in the game there now.
I think. on Team Talk at the moment. So, let
me give out some contact information. If you're
listening live, email iMessage tech, T -E -C
-H at M -E -N -V -I dot org. Or J -A -R -E -D
-R -I -M -E -R at 986themix .com. Text or WhatsApp
804 -442 -6975. I would definitely love... To
hear from you. Team Talk is not hearing me because
there's nobody there. So until people show, I
won't do that. The weather's been interesting,
to say the least. It's been hot, it's been cold,
it rained last night. That was kind of interesting.
Cooled us off a little bit. Sean looks like he
is back. It looks like Sean's back. I haven't
done anything since the 11th when I first got
the computer back up and running and found stuff
of interest. Let's play another track. Let's
see what I want to play here. Let's play some
Ginny Owens. From the beautiful album. Let's
hear. Let them hear. This is a 2004 release.
simply get in the way when i try to explain you
there's nothing sacred left to say you are I
will be what you've called. There, folks. Let
them hear. Beautiful's the album. It's a 2004
release. And you can get Ginny Owens on Apple
Music. We don't have anybody here. And why don't
we get in to our topic then. And we will push
forward. hallucinations, what they are, and why
they matter. You know, it's one thing, before
I get into reading the notes, it's one thing
to use AI to assist you. when you use it and
think that it's truth I've pushed back on some
of the things it's giving me but when it explained
it to me I'm like okay that makes sense you're
not wrong I just didn't understand what that
meant And this is perfectly fine. Especially
since I'm gathering data for podcasts and or
reports and or Something I might just research.
So it's always a good idea to push back a little
bit. Especially if it seems wrong. And we're
going to talk about a whole... A bunch of different
things that we will get to. And I think what
I'll do is I'll just make this available for
those who come in to team talk. And we'll push
forward. So welcome to the security box. Again,
I'm Jared Reimer. This is Podcast 270. In this
episode, we're talking about AI. Hallucinations.
And I guess the big question is going to be,
what are they? Why do they happen? And more importantly,
what do they mean for you as a user? And here
comes the J of N. Surprised it's only you up
here. Interesting. Well, remember, the boy of
pressed works for at least another hour or so.
So, yes. And yes, I already know about the .4
issue with the apostrophes. I already brought
it to Bob's attention. Yes, because I... I read
the file and it showed up. I mean, I could still,
you know, understand what you said. No, it's
a Braille 2000 thing. It doesn't matter what
I do. I've seen it in everything that I'm doing.
So this is happening with a fresh install of
2 .41, 2 .241. Okay, good to know. I just didn't
get a chance to go through the Braille and take
the .4s out. I didn't even get to notes until
yesterday because of how busy I've been. So I'm
doing the best I can. I get it. And it sounds
like we're going to have to work on 271 a bit.
There's a lot that needs work. I started looking
at the file today, but we'll talk more about
271 closer to the end of the program. So reading
the notes, Nick, what do you think? I gave it
a prompt. And I even incorporated some of my
own examples in there. Asked it to add my examples
of how I've pushed back on things. I think this
is a good one for me doing this at 6 o 'clock
at night. Yeah, I would have to agree. And I
have seen... one of those types of hallucinations
where I get totally inaccurate information. Well,
I pushed back on it a few times because what
it was giving me wasn't making sense to me until
it explained it to me, i .e. the last report
that I did. Some of the numbers were not making
sense to me. Until it said, based on, everything's
based off of this number. I'm going, oh. Okay.
No, in my case, it was the type that you mentioned
where it gave information that was flat out wrong.
Because it was really simple stuff that you could
always go and check. I mean, it was... Right.
No, no, I get you. Yeah. But I'm just talking
about my example. Okay, yeah. But yes, we're
going to get into this. So we're going to also
connect this topic back to earlier discussions,
i .e. 268, 269, including big tech reliability
and personal health information. Oh, I see that
it didn't do one of my subheadings. Good going.
Uh -oh. So, the first segment is general definitions.
And, Nick, you may have to help me because I'm
on my sense now. Uh -huh. doesn't understand
to stay in original mode. Every time I hit the
ED chord, it's saying compressed, even though
my settings say original. So this thing's on
the way out. Oh, boy. Okay, yeah. Yeah, I'm having
issues. So I thought it would be a good idea
as part of the prompt to go ahead and ask What
a definition of a hallucination is in general
terms. Yeah. Because maybe some people don't
know what that is. It's possible. So that's what
the first segment we're going to talk about is.
Yeah. So a hallucination in general is when someone
experiences something that is not actually real.
This could mean seeing something that isn't there,
hearing something with no source, or believing
something is real despite no... Evidence. The
key idea is this. A hallucination is not just
being wrong. It is experiencing something as
real when it is not. I don't know. I'll just
say that I don't know if I've ever experienced
such a thing. I don't know that I have. Preston's
blowing me up with videos. Oh, boy. I'm not going
to be ashamed if you call in and you say, yes,
I have. You don't have to go into any detail.
But you are welcome to be part of this discussion
here. Because we want that. We are on page two
now, Mr. J. Do you want to talk? Do you want
to read this one, AI Hallucinations? Yeah, segment
two, AI Hallucinations. I've got it. Now that
we know what the definition is, now let's, and
FYI, at least maybe it's my device, but there
should have been space. No, there should have
been a space there. I see it. Yeah, okay. I see
it. I'll back up. Okay, I'll back up anyway.
Now that we know what the definition is, now
let's apply that to artificial intelligence.
An AI hallucination happens when a system generates
information that is false, misleading, or completely
made up, but presents it as if it is correct.
So, this is what you said you've experienced,
correct? Yes. And it was really basic stuff.
I mean, I can give you an example. Go ahead.
Like, it's told me that Pittsburgh, the baseball,
well, the basketball team, anyway, the college
basketball, won a game against Stanford when
I happened to know that Stanford won that game.
Well, that sounds like your A's and your G's.
This actually came up in Sports Lounge, which
I did spot you were there for. They recognized
you, but I didn't squeal you out because I saw
the phone number. I wondered if there's any way
to actually interact with them or if it's all
pre -recorded. No, that was actually the live
taping. So they were actually telling you. to
raise your hand at any time and they would have
brought you in okay my mistake yeah okay good
to know so um they actually they actually um
recognized you and i was telling them i know
who it was but i didn't want to i didn't want
to give it away because i was doing that secondary
taping like I do for them. And then I just use
my copy unless something goes wrong. Okay. Makes
total sense. But you're welcome to participate
anytime. Okay. Good to know. Okay. Just raise
your hand. It's star six. Okay. Okay. Wait a
minute. Star six I thought was mute. Um... Yeah,
I was going to say, yeah, because I think star
six is the mute command and then star nine is
the raise your hand. Yeah, okay, makes perfect
sense. Maybe what I need to do is I need to give
them a little bit of instructions on doing that
because all they say is raise your hand and they
don't really give out commands like other places
do. So we need to be... And it was actually good
they didn't bring me in because I had some background
going. Well, they won't unless you initiate.
Makes sense. Okay. That's how that show works.
Got it. And by the way, if you want to come in
like Nick did. Go over to my website at jaredreimer
.net slash sportslounge, L -O -U -N -G -E, and
you will find which networks carry it. We carry
it both live and on demand, and I run the podcast
through the network. So you can search for Jared
Reimer, and you will find all of my podcasts,
including Sports Lounge. Basketball as your logo.
I found that in the images and put that up. Go
ahead with the next paragraph, Mr. J. This is
important. All right. This is important. The
system is not guessing and telling you it is
unsure. It is giving you an answer that sounds
confident and authoritative even when it is wrong.
I don't know that I've really experienced that
so much, but... I agree. If anybody has, I'd
love to hear from you. Especially if you know
the information it's giving is wrong. Now, there
have been court cases. We'll get into this. It
doesn't give an example there, and I didn't really
push it to give me that detail, because I didn't
want to go into that part of it, because it would
have made this a lot longer than I intended.
I think what we have is good, but there have
been court cases that have been filed based on...
This very thing. And then it's challenged and
found not to be true. They just throw the whole
thing out. Wow. Because there's nothing there.
Yeah. So that's how that works. Okay, good to
know. So that is what makes hallucinations different
than simple mistakes or from simple mistakes.
A simple mistake... Could be my misunderstanding
of, say, for example, part of my last report,
Mr. J. Mm -hmm. 38 trips taken overall. 19 of
them... Correct. With both internal and external
announcements. Mm -hmm. 39 .5%. Not correct.
Either external announcements not working, internal
announcements not working, both. And 10%. 10
.0%. Okay, 10%. Unknown. Meaning, I couldn't
verify it because I was in the back of the bus.
But I was questioning the 39 .5%. And then when
it explained it to me, it was based out of the
38 trips. 39 .5 % didn't. meet the criteria.
But I got confused. So it wasn't that I was pushing
back on it. It was that I was confused about
where that number came from. Yeah. So, based
on these numbers, are we at 90 %? I think the
answer is no. No. No. Resounding no. A resounding
no. 50 % success rate is 19 out of 38. And as
I said on the podcast when I released this...
This data set, which I think was the podcast
that was just released today. Mm -hmm. For it
to be 90%, it's saying 34 .2. But 34 .2 trips,
you can't really have a tenth of a percent or
whatever. No. But, but, but, but. That's sort
of what the math is. So it's saying 34 complete
trips out of 38 would be technically about 90%.
So it's good at the math. But I just questioned
it's 39 .5%. Where is this coming from? It's
like, well, out of this number, all of these
failed. Completely. It's like, ooh. Okay. We
are changing pages now. We're on page three.
Real example from my own use. And yes, I tried
to take out all the stars, but I just see I missed
one. Yes, I was tired last night. I got working
on trying to revamp JaredReimer .com. What I
thought was a couple of fixes in regards to the
copyright portion of the page. And maybe a spelling
mistake or two on the homepage turned into a
half a day of work. Actually, the majority of
the day. If I start jumping, let me know. But
I sort of talked about this a little bit. But
I'll read from the notes. In my own usage, there
have been times where I've had to question responses
and ask for clarification when something did
not sound quite right. For example, when working
through technical issues or formatting, I've
had to double check whether the explanation actually
matched what I was seeing on my system. That
step, stopping and verifying, is critical when
dealing with AI. Okay, you've been fine so far.
Okay. I've had to tap the advance bar twice to
get it to move. So, yes, I'm having... That's
part of my problem now, too. Doesn't seem like
you've been just sort of randomly skipping around,
though. It's happened. Even in plain text files
that are not properly Braille formatted, it's
done this. It's done this. It did this yesterday.
So, um, segment three, types of AI hallucinations.
There are several types of hallucinations you
may encounter. And I probably could have done
a different, I probably could have done this
a little bit differently, but I was pressed for
time knowing we were podcasting today. Mm -hmm.
So, I did put a lot of transcriber's notes in,
but you'll see later on, but then I changed my
mind and removed all of them. I'm like, ah, too
much of this. Don't like this idea. So, this
is your first, this is what you were talking
about, right? Fabricated facts? Yes. Okay. This
is when AI invents... Yeah, it just jumped. It
just said never existed. I told you. Invents
statistics, studies, or events that never exist.
So it actually was going to say, this is when
AI events never existed. Is what my display just
did. Uh oh. Yeah, I'm having this display has
got to go. Going into the next page. Fake citations.
Now this I don't think I've ever seen yet. I
think I've heard about this maybe, but no, I
don't think I have either. The system may create
books. Well, we know they're creating books these
days. Oh, and by the way, today's newsletter
deals with AI coming from Kim. Funny enough.
Right. Did you actually know the number one hit
right now and this is actually in one of her
minutes too but the number one hit right now
is not coming from a human, she says. Oh dear.
But as Jamie and I talked about on program, I
believe it was 400, of the independent show,
AI isn't necessarily inventing. It's using melodies
that it's learned. And formats that are already
out there. What's that? Yes, melodies that have
been programmed in. And like you said, formats
that are already out there. So the fact that
it has a number one hit means nothing. The system
may create books, articles, or sources that sound
real but cannot be found. Plausible but incorrect
answers. That's three times I've had to hit the
advance bar. These... Are answers that sound
right, but contain incorrect details such as
dates, names, or locations. I think we've talked
about some of these. I think so. I .E. TSB is
a bi -weekly show, which its next episode is
April 8th, as an example. Oops. When truly it
will be the 15th, which we actually need to figure
out what to do because that's going to be one
of our biggest episodes, and I have a 3 o 'clock
meeting. There's a special board meeting that
afternoon. Oh, uh -oh. And I think that's dealing
with the 28 Olympics, so that means I need to
be there. Right. And the 16th is operations,
so I can't do that day. So we will have to discuss
whether we move it to the week after or tape
Friday to keep the schedule. Right. Confident
misinformation. Misinformation is all over the
place. And I don't know if this is just an AI
problem myself. Probably not. I wouldn't think
so. This sounds to be... I mean, AI may assist
in that, but... I don't think it's all AI, to
be honest. That's just me. Yeah, I would have
to agree with you. The tone of the answer makes
it sound... even if, or even when, it is not.
No, I didn't, it didn't jump. I was on the same
line. Context misunderstanding. I've had this,
but that's only because I didn't finish, because
I was, like, talking to it about two different
things. So, I was talking about 270, but I was
talking to it about A Day in the Life at the
same time. Mm -hmm. But A Day in the Life is
only released 50 episodes to date. So... Oh.
It got confused that way. So that's context misunderstanding.
The AI misunderstands your question and answers
something different. Well, it wasn't an answering
something different. I was just talking to it
about something else and mentioned 270 and the
whole ordeal because I'm discombobulated these
days. Maybe that might be part of blended responses.
Maybe not as context -based. Although maybe it's
both. Could be. Part of the answer is correct
and part is made up, making it harder to detect
the problem. But I was able to see that. Go,
no, no, no, no. That's a day in the life. We're
mixing TSB and A Day in the Life. That was probably
my fault because I'm just all over the place
right now. So don't mind me. And I actually experienced
one of these, I think, from earlier with ChatGPT
a while back. That's what I use. That's what
I use too. And I was just asking it. Some random
things about the Conejo Grade. Ah, somewhere
between L .A. and God knows where. Yeah. That's,
well, that's part of the thing, because it's
labeled this area as entering the San Fernando
Valley, which... Yeah, that's not totally...
I don't think that's right. I don't think that's
right either, because... I thought the Conejo
grade had something to do with going, like, from
L .A. down to, like... I don't want to say San
Fran, but, like, going that direction. Well,
yes and no. I mean, my geography is not great,
but I know the Conejo Great isn't here. I know
that much. No, you're not far from it, but it
isn't there. It's either going to be west of
here somewhere, or it'll be... Somewhere east
of here, but I don't exactly know where it is,
and I'm going to claim my ignorance. Well, I
can tell you. It is west of you. Okay. Because
you first would get to Thousand Oaks before you
go to the other side, which takes you down to
Camarillo. Ah, that direction. Okay. Yeah, so
it's got that... Partially right in that it is
in Ventura County. Yes, that is correct. But
the geography that it is giving is not totally
right. And that's when we're going to get into
how to get it corrected. And by the way, it knows.
the LA Metro system, because it's telling me
that the red line is an east -west line, and
I'm like, I don't even know what direction I'm
going. And it goes, and I said, how do you know
that? And it goes, I got the data from public
information that Metro's released. about the
line and how it's structured and everything.
Mm -hmm. It doesn't feel like I'm going east
-west. There's times where this thing turns in
places, but... It's... It's saying that it's
more east by the time I get downtown. Well...
Based on the way things are curved because of
the darn ocean, that makes sense. Yep. Because
they always say that to go here, you're going
west when it feels like you're going north. So
I think that's what's happening now. Yeah, and
you know you're going north because you're in
daylight and you know what your direction's like.
Well, yes, but the truly accurate direction is
west because of the way the ocean curves and
the way the coast curves. Right. Yeah, the freeway
says 101 north, or sometimes I think it does
say 101 westbound, but... It'll say 101 north
or 101 south, but you're not going north or south.
You're going east and west. Right. But it does
turn in certain places, but you're not truly
going north. Yeah, when you, I think, veer away
from the ocean... Then, yeah, I think then it
does go more north -south again. Correct. Well,
and the 101 and the 405 meet in Encino, as you
know. And when we transition to the 405, you're
going from east to south. Yep. world example
there have been real cases where AI generated
legal filings included court cases that never
existed complete with fake citations personal
example there have also been some times When
I've asked very specific questions like percentages,
calculations, or structured reporting and needed
to confirm the numbers independently. That's
what I was talking about earlier. When I said,
where did this number come from? Mm -hmm. Even
when the answer sounds correct, it still needs
to be verified. So that's the end of three. Email
iMessage, J -A -R -E -D -R -I -M -E -R at 986themix
.com. Text or WhatsApp, 804 -442 -6975. So some
of this is familiar to you? Yeah, some is. Okay.
I was going to go respond to a voicemail list.
Somebody called, but I'm not available now, so
I'll call them later. Okay. Okay. Let's take
a file break. We're just going to switch files
for the podcast in case something goes wrong.
I know exactly where we are leaving off, so I
don't do the whole program over again. You never
know. You could be in the midst of things and
stuff happens. So let's switch files, and when
we come back, We're on segment four of eight.
You've got the security box. This is program
270 across the Jared Reimer radio network. The
security box. Folks, welcome back to 270. Jared
Reimer, Nicholas Jackson. The J of N. Hope everybody's
doing well. We'll be releasing the podcast on
Thursday. And no, I'm not going to April Fool's,
everybody. I have a meeting this afternoon, this
evening to go to. I'm not going to sit here and
April Fool's everybody today. I know it's April
Fool's Day, but I don't think I have any good
jokes. No, I mean, and the one we were talking
about, I'm glad we didn't. actually go through
with it because that would have... I'm sorry.
It sounded fun, but I don't think it would have
come across very well. Yeah. I don't know if
any security program is really doing much in
the April Fool's department. Although your wannabe
show that has since been updated again. Oh? Yeah.
They're now talking about... Uh -oh. Let me pull
this up. Let me pull this up. It's a nice little
program. I don't have anything bad to say about
it. Really. Except, sometimes they get in way
over their heads. That's what I think the problem
is. This time is Courier Scam. And we talked
about that weeks ago. Wait, so are we talking
about the ones where the couriers themselves
are scammed or when you receive a mysterious
package that is a total scam? I don't know. I
haven't heard the program. I don't know. Okay.
The next one is IRS scams. And then something
about consumer protection, which is always good.
Mm -hmm. Bank scams. And then bank scam February
16th. So I'm a little behind, but yeah. Courier.
Let's see if there's any show notes. Yeah. No,
I don't want to play. Info. They're bad for show
notes. Let's see. New and exciting? No, that's...
I think they've talked about this before, as
a matter of fact. Uh, so have we. Uh -huh. I
like the idea of what they do. I really do. Now,
I want to be serious a minute before we get into
segment four of AI. When you come out publicly
and you say something like, we're going to talk
about... BEC. But we don't know anything. But
we're going to talk about it anyway. I would
have phrased it like this, Mr. J. going to talk
about BEC. This came across our desk, but we're
not too familiar with this subject, so we're
going to have to do some research, but we're
going to talk about what we have here, and when
we learn more, we'll come back on the podcast
and we'll really dive deep into what this is
so you can understand it. And I understand. They're
an older audience. But no April Fools. That's
exactly how I would do it. Because I target older
audiences too. I had a guy who was 70 plus years
old who wanted to learn Windows. I tried. He
paid me for the effort. He just said this is
too much for me. I don't really understand it.
I don't want to have you waste your time to teach
me something I'm just not grasping. But I appreciate
the effort. Here's a couple hundred bucks. You
know? He was a businessman. He had a toll -free
number. He paid for my call and he paid for my
time. Well, that's good. Yes, this was 20 plus
years ago. Windows since then has become an absolute
mess, so it hasn't gotten any better. It hasn't
gotten any better. What I was teaching him was
simple. Back then. Windows is... Oh, I've got
a Windows story for you. Oh, no. We'll get into
this after we do the rest of the AI. Because
Windows has definitely changed. Oh, yeah. Not
for the better either. No. Not until I talk to
you about sound issues. Uh -oh. Oh, no. Oh, no.
Yeah. Oh, no. Because I knew how to help them,
but then when he told me he was using Windows
11, I'm like, so I asked ChatGPT, and it's giving
me keyboard commands. And that's all well and
good, and it's telling me exactly what to do
to reset sound. But I said, I'm not comfortable
just taking somebody through all of this without
speech. There's no speech, there's no narrator,
no NVDA. So... Yeah, I wouldn't be either. We'll
wait till you hear what happened. Oh, geez. And
we don't even know how this happened. But I'll
get into that later. Okay. Yeah, Windows. You
no longer have a volume control panel. There's
a mute all checkbox. Mm -hmm. Remember those
days? Oh. I remember those. It doesn't work that
way anymore. Trivia question. When was the last
Windows version that actually had that? Oh, I
want to say 7. You might be right. I think I
remember that in 7. I'll take it. I'll take 7
as correct. Because I think you're right. Because,
yeah, now it's just a long... Big fat mess. Yeah,
now it's, you know... Every other thing has its
separate volume if you tab through it. Yes. An
11 doesn't make it any better. No, that... And
I know I don't have an 11 machine, but... 10
and 11 are pretty much... The same for the most
part. Mm -hmm. I was just looking to see if we
had any email comments. Mr. Jay? Why don't you
take over with segment four? Why is... Or why
hallucinations happen? Alright. As you just said,
might as well just... Refresh everybody's memory.
Segment four, why hallucinations happen. To understand
why this happens, you need to understand how
AI works. AI does not actually know things. It
predicts text based on patterns. Well, that makes
sense. It predicts a lot of things based on patterns.
But anyway. Pattern prediction. The system is
trained to generate what sounds right, not necessarily
what is verified as true. Not unless you tell
it. Not unless you tell it. Go verify that, and
then it'll sit there and go thinking, thinking,
thinking. And then it'll go pull up a bunch of
crap. Like, for example, it was telling me that
iOS 26 wasn't out and that it was actually 16.
Wow. When I was telling it about its own program
not working and it wanted to help me file a bug
report. And I had to go into general system.
Update something, rather. And shooted a screenshot.
And it goes, oh, you are running 26. Okay. So...
Because it was like, this is iOS 16. I'm like,
um... I just had 18 installed, so how can I go
from 18 to 16? You stupid fuck. That's what I
should have done. What I should have done, instead
of shooting a picture of my screen, I should
have said, how can I go from 18 to 16 through
an upgrade pass? How does that work? Right. Go
ahead. Yes, okay. Missing information. If it
does not have enough data, it may fill in the
gaps. I haven't really seen a lot of that, but
I could see that. I could see that, too. But
I've always fed it data. Because it's always
said, without having the logs in front of me,
I don't want to, because I asked it something.
Because I can't go back through prior conversations.
I can see what's there, but without you being
in there, I can't analyze anything unless you
tell me to. So without this data, I can't. properly
so that I'd have to shove it up its ass again.
Right. And then once I did that and it reviewed
all of it, then it gave me what I wanted. But
that's what I expected it to do. So it did what
I expected. So... That's not that bad. Overconfidence.
AI systems are designed to be helpful, and sometimes
that means answering even when uncertain. If
I were an AI model... I'd rather do what I said
mine did, my chat GPT did, when I asked it something
and it said, I don't have that data. I can't
accurately give you a proper answer without seeing
the file again. That's what I want you to tell
me. I think. Right, yeah, makes sense. If you
start telling me inaccurate data based on something
you don't have access to, we've got problems.
Right, right. Although I think what people are
doing is, give it to me anyway. I want to know
anyway. So then it starts spewing a bunch of
crap. I listen to my personal assistant. When
it tells me it doesn't want to, it's not sure
that it needs more data, especially when I'm
doing the reports and it needs something again,
like I'm going to go back and get percentages
from February because I didn't have percentages
in that report. Right. So then we're going to
do a three -month percentage analysis as part
of next month's report cycle, which will be out
between the 1st and the 10th. Oh. I was right.
That was the end of that segment. Ambiguous input.
Mm -hmm. I don't know if I've seen this. If your
question is unclear, the system may interpret
it incorrectly. Actually, I think I have. I started
to ask it something, and it gave me something.
And I'm like, no, I didn't finish my thought.
And I redid the whole thing. It goes, oh. So
maybe that's what that means. Could be. So, yes,
I've seen that. Training limitations. It just
jumped. The data used to train the system may
be outdated, incomplete, or maybe... It just
jumped. Or conflicting. Thank you. It didn't
jump. It didn't advance is what just happened.
I'm telling you, I'm having problems. Oh, great.
Personal problems. Right, right. That don't involve
ant flow. That don't involve... You know... Now
that has to be the most interesting thing I've
ever heard. coming out of somebody's mouth. Yes.
And even though my device has not listened to
her show, it, I mentioned it, it knew exactly
what I was talking about. Are you kidding? No.
So if I asked, Now, which one of these two things
do you have? It's an A. So if I ask my A what
that is... Well, I'm not going to do this on
air. But if I ask my A what that was, it'll tell
me? I don't know if it'll... I didn't have it
come out directly and say it, but the way it
responded... Made me think it knew exactly what
I was talking about. Like when it said, oh, yes,
that monthly visitor that nobody wants or something
along those lines. Oh. So, yes, I think it knows
potentially what that is. Potentially what that
is. Now, what was the prompt? What was I even
talking about? There was something, well, I don't
know, for some reason I was chatting to it about
our source and shows and that came up. I don't
remember what turn I took, what I asked it or
said to it, but yes. By the way, the G came out
yesterday when I asked it for the weather and
it said, now you can... chat with me by saying
start chat or something. I forget exactly what
it was. I'd be curious to play with that when
I ever get time. Hmm. Yeah, it's probably similar
to what mine can do because now you can pretty
much have full -on conversations with the A devices
if you have the plus Which I don't have. Which
I don't. Mainly because I've got some games that
I sometimes play that I don't think it works
with. At least that's what I've heard. Got it.
Personal example, I've seen this happen when
giving partial or evolving information. For example,
when working through reports or logs, if the
full context isn't provided up front, the system
may make assumptions. That means I've had to
refine my prompts, add more detail, and guide
the response to get accurate results. Okay, so
that ends segment four. Anything catch your eye
or ear? Well, I'm not really sure if I've technically
experienced some of that, but I very well could
one day. I mean, there have been times when...
There have been times when I've been in the middle
of a thought where my A device will cut me off,
you know, if I'm just having a conversation with
it, but not really a lot of other things besides
that. Oh, wow. Segment five, how to reduce hallucinations.
There are things you can do to reduce the chances
of getting bad information. I think I've used
too many subheading sevens, but I didn't know
exactly how to do this and I was time crunched,
so sorry. It's okay. Should have used the list
paragraph format, but I got too tired. Just wanted
to get it done. Right. Be specific. Clear questions
produce better answers. Ask for sources. After
you do... Oh, I know what I did. Okay. This was
my doing. This was my doing. I had an idea of
how to fix this and I was going to do this all
along and make this all paragraph format and
then I didn't fix it all the way through and
just... It was a bad day. After you do that,
then verify those sources independently. Challenge
the response. Ask follow -up questions or request
clarifications. Been there, done that. Break
things into steps. Complex questions are easier
to handle in smaller parts. Do not treat AI as
final authority. Use it as a tool, not as a decision
maker. I bet we know people who do that. No names.
All right. Well, no, if you're... They don't
so much, from what I've heard, use it as the
final authority. They're just doing things that
maybe others would find very odd with it. Well,
they are kind of odd. Right. have for dinner.
And it starts popping out with an entire menu
of things. How the hell did you do that? And
then when they told me how they did that, and
I tried this with several of these podcasts,
taking the script and doing that took too long.
Oh, man. Why do you think I quit doing that?
Yeah, it makes sense. I wrote the script. You
have to make it so many characters long and then
you have to do it for everything you're saying.
And it just became too much because you had to
use the phone to do that. You couldn't do it
on the computer. Verify critical information.
Especially when it involves health, legal, or
financial topics. Personal example. In my own
workflow, I often go back and forth Refining
what I ask. If something doesn't look right,
I don't just accept it. I question it, adjust
the input, and work through it step by step.
That interaction is what helps reduce errors.
Trust. trust calibration. Okay, that's what this
is. Um... There is also a balance that needs
to be understood. There are some people who trust
AI too much. I know at least one of those. Oh,
yes. Because... They were the ones that supposedly
built a tool and then now have an entire family
full of tools. I .e. the wife and children. they
got them to do various things and they were actually
on the phone lines again no names and I don't
know why the owner did this but they allowed
the one the AI thing to have a box even though
he was controlling the entire thing Everybody
saw right through it. There are also others who
do not trust it at all. The goal here is appropriate
trust. I .E. When you feed it a bunch of data
and have it write a report, does that report
look right as it wrote it? Or do you need to
go in and fix it? Because it just didn't understand
anything. I mean, I understood enough to give
you some basics, but... I liked what it did for
this podcast. So it's like, well, what about
this? Or can you tie it into, you know, analyze
my conversations and tie it into this and tie
it into that? I could have even gone back as
far as say, tie this as far back as 267. But
I didn't. go that far speaking of podcasts this
is the second 267 the first 267 happened on the
tech side where we talked about somebody who
unfortunately is no longer on the phone lines
actually gave out enough of their information
on a bulletin board for us to find them. Including
where they lived at that time. Because it had
their name and that home's address. That turned
into an 11 -minute segment. But then we still
have people doing that today. But that's not
AI. Could you imagine if AI started calling into
the phone lines, Mr. J? Oh, gosh. going to have
some fun with this segment. Did you read this
segment? Well, not yet. First time I've run into
it. Alright, so we're going to have a little
fun. Live demonstration and connection to episode
268. The next one goes into 269, Mr. J. Oh, cool.
Let's walk through a live example of how an AI
hallucination can happen. I'm going to simulate
a question that someone might ask. Give me details
about a study that provides AI is always accurate.
It's okay. You guys can think. Mm -hmm. Now think
about the question for a moment. It assumes something
that may not even be true. It is vague. And it
is leading the system toward a specific type
of answer. And here's where I wanted to put all
the T and L's and T and R's so we don't read
the ellipses. But then I realized we don't really
need them. Because I told it to do it this way
on purpose. Mm -hmm. An AI system might respond
with something like this. Quote, there was a
study conducted in 2023 showing that AI systems
achieved near perfect accuracy in most tasks
with results exceeding 95%. That sounds convincing,
doesn't it? It sounds professional. It sounds
detailed. It even includes a number. What do
you think, Mr. J., before we read any further?
Yes or no? Yeah, as somebody who's getting that
for the first time, oh, yeah. Sounds totally
convincing, totally legit. What about you as
a user of it? I may be more of a user, which
I really didn't want to get into, but I think
I find it valuable in the work that I do now.
Look at where all these topics came from. Talking
to it. Right. I just have so many problems with
that kind of prompt. Talk to me. This is an open
podcast. Well, yeah, we've already kind of gone
through them, but I don't mind basically Repeating
them. First, that is such a vague question. Second,
like you said, you are leading the system toward
a specific answer. And third, I mean, even a
human could probably do that. They could probably...
You know, if asked, just come up with some random
study on the spot that says, you know, this proves
that, you know, red waffle irons are more efficient
or something. Well, let's turn this into the
cellular phone on the ear discussion. We've been
having for decades now. Oh yeah. And there still
really haven't been any real inconclusive you
gotta use it this way. They just tell us not
to put our phones in our pockets. But I've done
it anyway just because I don't have anywhere
else to put it. And then they also get into even
more specific detail. Like, you shouldn't have
it face this way or that way. It's like, oh,
my gosh. How is it going to hurt my balls when
it's not even facing my balls? Not to mention...
Not that. Then it's 1 o 'clock. Wow. It just
had to show up and do that. Not to mention 1
o 'clock. That's just as good as... The sneezing
phone. Sneezing phone. Well, actually, I don't
know. Although the sneezing phone got us laughing
for 10 minutes. It did, but I think the... The
best one was the horse. Oh, that was great. But
what I was going to say was the messing with
the computerized, stupid, shady... Phone system,
that is pretty close to... Now that was great.
I gotta find that podcast and I gotta make...
I think we played it and I just heard it in passing.
But next time we go through podcast playing...
Yes, the... It's like, hello, how are you? Terrible.
Awful. I'm calling about... It had no emotion.
No, sorry to hear that. Right, it just went on
with its little script that it had been programmed
to repeat, basically. Until it asked you how
old you were, then you started fucking with it.
Oh yeah, 750. I'm sorry. That's 750. Yeah, and
you got that in his tone. No. How old are you?
10. Click. That was great. Now that was AI at
its best. That was great. Oh, yeah. But here's
the problem. That study may not exist at all.
Right. That is a hallucination. Now let's try
the same idea, but ask a better question. Quote,
provide verifiable studies. on AI accuracy, including
publication names or sources. Okay. Now, the
system is being guided differently. It is being
asked for verifications. It is being asked for
sources. It is being constrained to reality.
The answer is much more likely to be useful and
accurate. This demonstrates something important.
The way you ask the question directly affects
the quality of the answer. A vague or leading
question increases the risk of hallucination.
Chicago's just beating the crap out of L .A.
at the moment. It's 9 to 1 in the 6. Or did it
say... It just said 5 to 2, but I thought I just
heard 9 to 1. What is it? A clear, specific...
reduces it. And that puts part of the responsibility
on us as users. I jumped, okay. Five to two.
Five to two. I thought I heard nine to one first,
and then I heard LA score, so. And it said 5
to 2 then. Okay. In response to all of this,
I think, this goes back to it analyzing all of
your data and you wanting to do something with
it. And some of your data goes back forever.
Which goes back to episode 268. So in episode
268, we talked about how large companies struggle
with safety and reliability. When I fed it Menvy's
roster and said, how many people are in here?
It said... I can only count, what was it, 190
different entries. But with several of these
having multiple people, I can't verify how many
people are actually here. Interesting. Let's
take you and I, for example, Mr. J. Well, let's
finish the sentence, and then I'll... and then
I'll take the example. AI, hallucinations are
another example of that issue. Even companies
with massive resources cannot fully guarantee
that the systems will always provide accurate
information. If they cannot, fully secure platforms
or prevent data issues, it should not be surprising
that they also cannot... I'm having issues. Cannot
eliminate hallucinations. Yep, there you go.
There we go. I hit the button and it didn't go
forward. That was that issue. Okay. So... Nick,
you're not Mr. J from Santa Barbara at the very
moment. Mm -hmm. You are my father. Now just
follow me a minute. Okay. In Menvy's roster,
Nick, parent. Reimer, Jared, piano, webmaster.
Address, if any. Phone number, S, if any. Email
addresses, if any. That's one entry, but there
are two people. Right. Some of those entries
have at least two or three people. Maybe both
children or both parents. Right, right. So, I'm
happy that it told me I can't give you a number.
Because I can only see how many entries you have.
I can't count how many actual people are here.
But that makes sense to me. Because it's reading
the Word file and trying to determine how many
people, but it can only tell entries. Right.
So, it couldn't tell me. And I wasn't going to
try and push it. Because there's too many variables.
Accountability. Question. this raises an important
question. Who is responsible when AI gives wrong
information? Is it the developer who built the
system? The company that deployed it? Or the
user who relied on it? What do you think? Honestly,
I think it's the user who relied on it. I do
too. Because they're the one that's spewing it.
Right. And they're the ones who are saying, okay,
well, it must be correct when it's not. And...
I think a lot of these companies now are pretty
good about pointing out that AI is, you know,
always learning. It's not exact. I think they
were forced to do that. Well, true. Because of
all the problems we've had. Right. But it's also,
like, common sense, though. It's like... What's
that? Should I... Right, right. Like, should
you really be asking your AI if you should put
Dayquil in your chicken? I don't think so. You
just shouldn't be doing that at all. Or it's
like, can I heal this... Can I get rid of this
blister with cupping and meditation? It's like,
you shouldn't be asking AI that. Meditation might
help. It'll relax the body. Well, it'll certainly
help with the pain aspect of it, yes, but...
That question does not yet have a clear answer.
It says. But I honestly think over time we're
going to end up going to the this has to be responsibility
of the user that's prompting slash using the
thing. Right. I think that's gonna have to be
what this is gonna be come uh Yep, I would agree.
Come sometime in the future. I don't want to
start predicting when, but... It would not surprise
me. Yep, same here. I'll go ahead with segment
number seven. Because I think this is the one
that is going to your topic from a couple of
weeks ago that we spent a good bunch of time
on. Thank you very much. It is. So I will let
you read that because that, I think, belongs
to you. Okay, sounds good. Segment 7. Connection
to Episode 269. In Episode 269, we discussed
personal health information. This is where hallucinations
can become dangerous. If an AI system gives incorrect
medical information, the consequences can be
serious. This could include wrong advice, incorrect
interpretations, Of symptoms or misleading recommendations.
Yes, that would be very problematic, depending
on, again, how you worded the question, what
you asked it, where you were trying to lead it.
Well, and when I started with this tool, I was
having symptoms. My... This is kind of a running
joke, guys. Uh -huh. But my butt was talking
more than it probably is supposed to be yapping.
Right. So I was trying to figure out if this
was a problem or if I should go seek help. And
now I do have medication around to help me with
that problem. But I didn't twice now. Actually,
the second time I had this problem, I went to
go get medication. But only after the problem
was gone. Although the medication helped fix
it so I could actually go last week. Right. That
was partially why this was so rushed was because
I was sick. But I basically was telling it what
was going on and said, what should I take? And
it was giving me different medication types.
And then it's like, Well, okay, I want to go
buy this. There's this one and that one. Do I
have to measure this? And it's telling me no,
but it really depends on the type of medication
because there was one type. I took cough medicine.
I couldn't find the line or whatever, and I took
too much, and I basically fell out of my chair.
Uh -oh. Because I took the entire cup. But it
solved the problem for the time being. Well,
I mean, that's good. But what I'm saying is,
it's a problem for us. Because these cups, as
you know, are not really blind friendly. They're
not. I'm talking about those... Stupid cups that
you find on the cough medicine bottles. Oh, they're
not. So it said, if I were you, I recommend the
chewables. So I found chewables and sent it a
picture of it. And it goes, yep, I would buy
those. So it was helping me, and then when it
told me to get crackers, I sent it pictures of
different kinds and said, what should I get?
So I asked it for advice, and I... Made my own
decisions. I think that really goes back to 267.
I didn't just do as it said. Well, I did do as
it said, but overall it was my decision, right?
Right. I could have bought Wheat Thins even though
it told me to... by saltine. I could have gone
against what it told me. But it wasn't happy
when I finished the thing of pasta. But I ended
up telling it, well, there wasn't really a whole
lot left. It wasn't happy about that because
it said, don't do that. But it said, since there
wasn't a lot left and you didn't have any symptoms
afterward, that's okay. Right. But it did say
no heavy pasta. But it was the one that I ordered
the night prior that I was able to eat just fine
that I'd finished. Right. Right. But I see where
it was coming from. Because I already had a bad
night the night before. Right. So it wasn't that
it misled me or that it gave me wrong or incorrect
advice, but I made my own decisions. It wasn't
happy when I made one that could have cost me
a little bit. Right. Luckily, I didn't pay for
it. AI should never replace professional medical
guidance. So if it thought that I needed help,
I would have gotten on the phone to my doctor,
and I would have told him that my butt... My
butt... Had a lot to say. And I haven't gotten
it to quit yet. Right. Always verify health -related
information with a qualified professional. But
I think at the time, I followed what it said.
And look where I am now. I've survived two episodes
of my butt. Right. So, if I could do that with
the aid of AI, even though it wasn't happy when
I made one decision, although I knew not to eat
a whole lot of it, and there wasn't a lot of
it anyway, I'm okay. And I think because there
may not be a whole lot of time to eat, I'll take
a thing of crackers with me just so that I'm
eating something. Because I bought two different
kinds. I bought the two sleeves, the two big
sleeves, and then I bought the individual packaged
ones. Oh. Which Target sells under the same saltine
cracker thing. And at least I'll be eating something.
I'll take that instead of my candy. Right. Or
granola bars. So let's talk about accessibility
impact, Mr. J. Yes, I think we should. Go ahead.
There is also an accessibility angle to consider.
Many blind and visually impaired users rely on
AI to interpret the world around them. If AI
hallucinates in those situations, it can misidentify
objects, misread labels, or provide incorrect
environmental information. And there's been that
kind of thing about a program that I really can't
speak much about, but that has happened. And
what might that program be offhand? I'm not sure
I can really reveal it at this time. Okay. I
wonder what the hell's going on across the street.
I wonder that, too. Because that's where it sounds
like that's coming from. Yeah, I can hear it
as well. But it was providing one user who posted
about it very much off information because they
knew that because they were trying to use it
for navigation, you know, just out of curiosity.
Okay. And I think the distance they had to walk
was, I think, something like 150 feet. This program,
the AI aspect of it, thought that what they were
looking for was 30 feet away. That's a pretty
big difference. Yes. And even when I went to
the UPS store, chat said it could give me the
layout of the area. But where the UPS store I
had to go ship my Orbit to is actually across
the street from the medical building, which they
were correct on. Because I actually asked somebody,
I'm like, I can't find this address. And they're
like, it's across the street. So I went across
the street, and I had my map open. And then...
I'm like, I don't know. So I told it to go to
the UPS store. It was beeping at me. I'm like,
okay. So I turned one direction. I crossed the
crosswalk. And then it stopped. But yet, I wasn't
at the UPS store. Apparently, there's a bank
nearby. And the guy actually took me up the ramp
and... over to the UPS store where I shipped
the thing. And I was able on the way back to
count, that's about a half a dozen doors or so
from where I was and back to the, although I
almost fell down the stairs. Uh -oh. Should have
used the ramp instead. But it is what it is.
And then I recognized where I was, and I went
back to Victory and caught the bus back home.
It said it could do that, but I wasn't trusting
it, although I should have used Waymap, because
I used it in one instance where all I wanted
to go was to Whole Foods. And it took me from
Canoga Avenue and Ventura Boulevard straight
to its door. It told me exactly where to turn
right before the parking lot. And it took me
practically right to where the door is. Right
past where all the carts sat. I should have used
it instead of Apple Maps. Right. Because Apple
Maps just said, here you go. And I'm like, but
I don't sense what's happening here. Mm -hmm.
This is not just incredible. Go ahead, Mr. J.
We have the boy of pressed. We do. He must be
done with his work for the day. I'm here. I think
I had some AI hallucination before. Go ahead.
Well, I don't know if this will count, but last
year, I know when we were doing our RCL end of
year special, and we were asking how many stations
K -Love acquired, it said seven in 2025, but
it was definitely more than that. Because the
number... kept increasing almost like monthly.
Well, that's not, that's misleading information
based on the sheet we have. That's not necessarily
a direct hallucination, but that's a good, that's
a good distinction. Don't you think, Mr. J? I
would agree. Yep. This is not just incorrect.
It can directly impact independence and safety.
Personal example. As someone who releases...
Oh, no. Relize. Excuse me. It's not jumping.
It's just I can't read now. Relize heavily on
accessible technology. I already depend on tools
working correctly. If an AI system provides incorrect
information in that context, it is not just a
minor issue. It can affect decision -making efficiency.
in real time. Now, before we go into segment
eight, since Mr. G is here, anything between
segments two and seven that you would like to
talk about? You had a right idea on... K -Love
7 versus 50. That's a big problem. Right. Also,
what we gathered for accessibility, that can
be a factor, so I thought that was agreeable.
Okay. And I think to number pretty much around
two, three, five, and six, and maybe four can
definitely be relatable. In its own method. In
its own right. In its own right. We just got
to watch for our P's and Q's. P's and Q's? What
do you think, Mr. J., before we start wrapping
this up? I mean, I would have to agree, and it's
something we've come back to many, many times
already throughout the program today. You know,
we always should... If... There is any doubt.
Independently verify, you know, is this correct?
Yes. That's, oh, my bad. But yeah, I definitely
agree. It's always good to fact check things
and verify what you're supposed to be. analyzing
or prevailing. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if
you heard earlier, but we had a geography example
of that. Where I was asking, yes, where I was
asking chat GPT, and granted, part of it was
actually my fault, because it was, now that I'm
thinking about it, a very vague question. Because
what I asked it was, what does the Conejo grade
separate? And that could mean a lot of things.
Yeah. Message on message. That will not be good.
Well, I mean, it was more out of curiosity. It
wasn't, you know, for any kind of research or
anything important. I was just more curious.
had it in a slightly geographically incorrect
area, because it placed it more into the San
Fernando Valley, and it's like, no, it's not
really there. Yeah. Even with my geography, I
kind of understood that the Conejo grade was
not over here. No, it's close to you, but not
that close. But that's why I pleaded the fifth.
That's why I pleaded the fifth. Because my geography
is awful. And I know that. Well... It wasn't
a struggle in school, but I did pass. So I can
relate. I passed, but... I haven't looked at
a map in 20 years. At that point, you're also
out of Metro's area, so there's that, too. Yeah.
Who? Well, I'm past Metro's service area. Once
we get down to, let's see, the 161 goes to Westlake
Village, I believe it is. Mm -hmm. And that's
where it terminates. I think that's as far as
we go is Westlake Village. That would make sense
because I think that's the very last town as
you're heading west in L .A. County. I believe.
Because I know it goes past the restaurant that
I've eaten at called King's Fish House. Never
heard of it. Which is west of here. I'm sure
it's good. It's good. Lots of choice. Expensive.
But good. I would think, because if you go past
that, you're in Ventura County when you're in
Thousand Oaks. Well, it goes into Thousand...
Wait. Where is said telephone? We're going to
do this on the air, everybody. Okay. Okay, so
let's switch it. So it goes to Thousand Oaks
Transportation Center. Oh, it does. Okay. Interesting.
Which I find odd because you're no longer in
L .A. County at that point. But I... I think
they're people that come in from there. Ah. That
come into the valley. Well, that would make sense
because Thousand Oaks is really close to the
valley. So, yeah, that makes sense. Now let's
see. So it goes west of... Topanga. And then
it turns on Fallbrook Avenue. Okay. Goes down
a street called Avenue San Luis, which is near,
which used to be near me. When DeSoto turns into
Serenia. So Avenue San Luis is one of these small
side streets. Right. Then it goes into Calabasas
where King's Fish House is. Ah, okay. 62. Bottom
of the seventh inning. Park Granada. Parkway
Calabasas. Oh, yeah. Las Virginas. Yeah, that's
way at the fringes of L .A. County. Agora, Las
Virginas. Yeah, you're... That's like the Agora
Hills area, I think. So, yeah, you're pretty
much... I mean, aside from Westlake Village,
you're almost out of L .A. County. Is that saying
cheese bro or jessa bro? What is this? Oh, I
always thought it was cheese bro. Oh, jeez. No,
I heard someone actually give the correct pronunciation.
I think it's chess bro. This is either chess
bro or cheese bro. One of the two. I used to
make... I know the one you're talking about.
Yeah, the freeway exit. Now I don't even know
where we are. What was that one? Roadside. You're
pretty much at the edge of L .A. County. Thousand
Oaks is a street? Okay. Well, Thousand Oaks Boulevard,
probably. Okay. Reyes Adobe. Oh, no, that's...
No, you're still in L .A. at that point. Lindero
Canyon. That's the last one in L .A. County,
I believe. Lake... View Canyon. That I've never
heard of. Agora Lakeview Canyon. Hmm. West Lake.
Oh, yeah. Thousand Oaks again. Okay, then there
must be a different street. Hmm. Keneho School.
Oh, yeah, you're well into Thousand Oaks by then.
Sounds like it. Wow. Okay. So, 30 minutes from
now, if I were to pick it up, to write it, it's
probably like two hours. What was the last stop?
15... 30? So we're looking about 2 .15 as a pickup.
Right. And 3 .30 to get down there. So it'll
be about an hour and a half. Right. 15 minutes.
Oh, boy. From here. It's going to be a long night
for Jared again. Oh boy. But if you were driving
it by car... No, he's not going there tonight.
I'm going into Van Nuys tonight. Yeah, I know.
That's what I was saying. Yeah, this is the other
direction. This is the other direction. This
is west. This is southwest. This is west -southwest.
Yeah, yeah. Because when you go down Fallbrook,
you're actually going southbound. That's more
in the Northridge area, I thought, though. Yeah.
No, that's the 162. Or the 152. That picks you
up at Fallbrook Adventure Boulevard and it goes
down Roscoe Boulevard. Let's take a file break,
and when we come back, if I don't lose my headset,
we're going to cover item eight. I'm about to
lose my headset. I'm all tangled up, folks. Got
to figure out how I got my arms tangled up in
here. Oh, here we go. When we come back, we're
going to read item number eight, and then we're
going to do some errata. And we're going to talk
about something that we talked about last Saturday.
Oh, yes. That still... If you haven't already,
folks, take notes. I think needs to be put out
there because throwback doesn't really have the
audience that I do. No offense. Right. and folks
no matter where you're residing if you're starting
out on your own like me or anything like that
this could potentially happen to you so right
so that's why we are gonna cover it so hold hold
your hold your drinks and snacks and strap yourselves
in oh nice harley nice nice And I'm living outside.
We'll continue in just a moment across the Jared
Reimer Radio Network. Radio Network. The Security
Bomb. Folks, we're trucking right along. Preston
Gaylor's here. Nicholas Jackson. Jared Reimer.
TSB270. Hope everybody's doing well. I think
what we're going to do is we're going to finish
up the current topic. AI and hallucinations.
And then... I'm gonna get into... Some... Errata.
And some of this... Is gonna make you... Go holy
shit. Yes. Pretty much. So, we're on our last
page by the looks of this. And yes, I'm using
the same file as you guys are today. And that
will be the foreseeable future until my 40 comes
back. And I see I forgot to take out our dashes,
but that's okay. Segment 8. Final thoughts. AI
is a powerful tool, but it's not perfect. Hallucinations
are not a bug that can simply be removed. They
are part of how these systems currently work.
Now, I guess before... one of us continues, because
this thing is known to jump, but I'm not jumping
at the moment. Do you think that those who program
these things, whatever it might be, ChatGPT,
Claude, whatever, do you think that we can program
it to a point where if it's not sure, it just
flat out won't tell you. It'll just say, I don't
know. I don't have that data. Prop me some other
way. Possibly, but I'm not sure how confident
I am in that. I like the but. Yes. Yeah. Totally
possibly. You have to Take into account every
single way that somebody could ask a question
and every possible question that somebody can
ask. So I don't know that that's possible, really.
I thought I put it out there. I'm not saying
you're right and I'm not saying you're wrong.
I'm putting it out there. I mean, it would be
interesting. Could this be solved? Short answer,
in my view, no. No. Okay. Because there are always
going to be people who ask really weird, vague
shit. Like? Oh, I could just imagine somebody
asking something like, you know, like something
about blue lines in a field somewhere. Right.
Yeah. that's totally weird and there's really
no information about it. It's like, except for
maybe one source that posted it 20 years ago.
Right. That most, uh, most models know nothing
about because they weren't trained on it. Well,
even when I was working on jaredreimer .com and
it broke my script. Oh, that broke. Oh gosh.
It broke my script that I've been using for email,
not authentication, but email hiding for years.
And this was a script that I got many years ago.
And it was able to figure out what broke. Well,
part of it was that I didn't... First of all,
I was missing the script tags. That was part
of the problem. And then it was, maybe it doesn't
understand what I did because it has to be written
this way. So it gave me my original script back,
which I saved somewhere. Because I was doing
a lot of rewriting of JaredReimer .com yesterday.
Which was supposed to be an hour or two turned
into a half a day. And I'm not done with everything
yet. I have to go through the rest of the website
and go through and make sure that it's making
sense. And it did fix my meta tag description.
Thank you very much. It went into my code and
fixed the meta tag description. Well, I had to
go put it in place, but it rewrote my description
of the website. Understanding this is critical.
If you trust AI too much, you increase your risk.
Now, who thinks I trust it too much? Based on
my work. I mean, you're leaning into it more
maybe than you did before, but I wouldn't say
overly trusting it. I like your thinking. Because
I'm using it to analyze my data so it can help
me write reports. Even though the report I wrote,
I did change some things. And I added a few words
here and there to make it my own. And it has
assisted in part. I don't know. I'm going to
be honest with you all. I don't know much about
this. So I have to use it to help me. with what
might be the issues are. And then, of course,
we can formalize our own opinions on the thing,
which is what we've done. Yeah. Yep. It just
gave me an outline, which we put together. Unfortunately,
it was last minute because of how busy I've been.
But... The last several podcasts, I have and
we have rewritten it and made it our own. But
it has assisted. There's a complete difference.
I could give it some thoughts of mine and say,
email Joe and I want to tell him this. And it
will compose an email, which I'll review. Before
I push the button to send it. If I don't like
it, I'll tell it, I don't want this. Or, when
I wrote the report, it said, I can make it board
level and I can make it operations level. And
I'm like, I don't know, should I send this to
the board? Right? So, I'm not saying I'm leaning
into it. I think I'm using it more as an assistant.
Like, help me do this. Right. But I still have
to make the decisions. Yes, I'll send it as it
wrote it. No, I better copy this and rewrite
it. And I've done that. But I think that's the
responsible way to use it. What do you guys think?
Yeah, I would definitely think so. So I don't
know if I don't know if I'm Overly using it?
I mean, it needed data so that it could tell
me what my numbers are looking like. No, I don't
think overly using. Okay, what about you, Preston?
I was talking to it about something, and then
I had it send you an email about it, and it wrote
you a nice -looking email. Yeah, and I was going
to say, you can use that to, you know, perfect
it, and that way it'll save some time and be
more illiterate. So I think... It's not illiterate.
It's literate. Illiterate means you cannot. Okay,
sorry. I meant it'll be literate so that way
you can understand and you can comprehend what
you're getting from that text. It actually went
through the homepage and corrected my grammar
and my, you know, it should say when here, not
where. It should, you know. This doesn't make
sense. Or... Right, so it analyzed it, and it
knew what I meant. Like, this was part of...
And then I sort of, while I was looking at all
of these things it wanted me to fix, I'm like,
how come my beta testers didn't find any of this?
My beta testers found the telephone number problem.
Right. But when you go onto the homepage now,
you'll practically find a lot of it rewritten.
Yes. Because it understands grammar and structure.
And the thing that broke was my... I asked it
about specifically my copyright notice. So it
helped me do that. And so that whole section
sort of got a makeover. Then, at the time, when
it analyzed the website page, it basically told
me about spelling corrections. But then, when
I fed it the page, it was grammar this, spelling
that, this word here, and I'm like, ugh. This
is going to take half my day and I still got
podcast 270 to do. Yeah. Holy moly. Holy moly.
I would say using that for the assistance is
valuable so that we can catch what, you know,
you might have missed. Or, because I know what
I'm trying to say, I don't recognize these things.
Because that's what it was saying. It's like,
you know what you meant, so your brain doesn't
interpret it as wrong. Because it's like, you
should go through it and you should do this and
you should do that. And I'm like... I did use
a reader and read through it. I used JAWS and
read through it and it sounded fine to me. But
then when it read it, I was like, oh. I guess
so. If you do not trust it at all, you lose its
benefits. Oh, yes. The goal? What's that? Yes,
I definitely agree with that. Because if you
don't trust it, you can't really use it as a
tool, obviously, and you can't really log or
get your personal assistant. I haven't used it
at all today, actually. The goal is to use it
wisely. Who thinks... Well, first let me finish
this paragraph. Treat it as a tool that can assist
you, but not replace... Your judgment. Who thinks
I'm doing that? Well, I mean, you are using it
for what it is, but you're still basically judging
based on your own senses and where to go next.
You're the one who's ultimately making the decisions.
Yes. That's crazy what I was trying to say. Correct.
That goes back to my butt. Right. It gave me
advice. And I made my own decisions. And I don't
know why, but I was so interested in Chesbro
Road that while we were talking about this, I
just kind of glanced curiously at the AI overview,
speaking of AI, that Google gave me. I don't
know why anybody would really stop there, quite
frankly, because there's no major, at least from
what I can see, landmark or there's no event
center there. It's essentially a place where
you can go. If you want to, you know, start a
hike in the Santa Monica Mountains, or if you
want to go to the historic, I've never heard
of this, so maybe I might look this up, but the
historic Morrison Ranch House. It's like, okay.
Yeah. My thoughts exactly. It's like, yes, I'm
not getting off at Chessbro. Yeah, you're well
into Agora Hills by that point. wants to read
Closing on the bottom of the page. I can. Go
ahead. Closing. That's Podcast 270 of the Security
Box. As always, stay informed, stay aware, and
stay secure. End of notes. So that's a wrap on
AI. Uh -huh. Uh -huh. Yep. That's right. But
remember, always be careful and make sure you
use your tools wisely. So do you guys think I'm
using this wisely? I mean, it came up with these
ideas based on my conversations with it. I think
so, because you easily could have said, no, I
don't want to talk about that, or no, let's not
discuss that. So, yes, I think so. Yeah, I believe
so as well, because, you know, it knows your
routine, it knows your structure. And it's aware
of what your duties and responsibilities are
across the business and Metro and other entities.
So I feel it's... Well, remember, I had to train
it on all of that. So it knew what I was doing
and how it could help me. And I did that when
I was sick. Yeah. So... I don't know why this
still annoys me. But... week more specifically
last Sunday I went all the way into Long Beach
not because I wanted to although those are just
nice relaxing trips But I wasn't going to go
meditate down at the Queen Mary for an hour.
Which I used to do many years ago. I actually
went to a specific place for a memorial. Of a
gentleman who passed away three months to the
day of that memorial date. Oh, yes. And he was
for sure a good man. The service itself was great.
The people were friendly. I handed them a couple
of hundred dollars. I said, don't worry about
the receipt. Just keep the money. I already knew
they needed accessibility work because I was
using the same tool to figure out what the best
route for me to go through was to get there.
7th Street. Or Union, based on the A -line alignment,
the issues at 7th Street, and other issues that
I just didn't really have time to deal with then.
Yeah. So it assists, between Joe and it, it was
assisting me with that, because it... I was telling
it what I needed, and then I told it to write
Joe an email, which I read. And it gave me a
couple of versions, and I picked one and read
it. And when I told it, give me an email button
for this one, then it gave me the button and
I sent it off. And Joe was able to give me a
hand, although there were some issues. But while
I was there, these two people were having a civil.
But I was just amazed about what was happening
in the field of people who are and work at companies
to assist people with disabilities in day -to
-day living tasks. Yes. I forget the actual term
that's used for these companies now. Direct support.
Oh, I have a... A local judge who was a direct
support professional? Maybe? Something like that?
Or support service? Something like that. Well,
I know some of what they do is IHSS, which is
In -Home Support Services. Oh, yeah. That includes
cleaning and... But I know that there are companies
that specialize in these, but I don't know if
they're known as IHSS providers or what, because
each state's going to call it something else.
Yeah, you're speaking my language because I had
to learn all the waivers for our state. So, you're
speaking my language. I'm speaking... I'm speaking
Preston's language, ladies and gents. Unfortunately,
it's still English. I'm going to say this very
carefully. There are great... people out there
I know one who actually does do their job who
worked at a company I was with but on the side
they do this job and It's not easy. Some of your
clientele are very particular. Oh, yes. They
can be. And sometimes the hours and tasks can
be daunting. But at the end of the day, it's
rewarding. Now, I know of one person on the phone
lines who will not be named, mind you, that have
probably gone... Through so many of these people,
because of whatever their needs are, and they're
claiming that they aren't doing what they're
supposed to do. Now, whether that's the truth
or not, I don't know. But I don't know how the
company is able to deal with them. Now, with
that said, there are different levels of support.
There's the IHSS worker who comes in and provides
support like mine does. They go to the store.
They might take your card to the bank and go
get you some cash. Or they'll take you... Somewhere,
like, when I needed help with the computer, he
came on a Friday and helped me by unhooking everything
and taking me and it to the store. And they got
paid for that because... regional center here
in LA County pays for that and they keep asking
me, do I want to change my hours? No. Because
if something comes up, they're not going to get
paid for that. I'm not going to account for something
they're not getting paid for. I'd rather have
too many hours than not enough. And getting more
hours is... not something that's easily granted.
No. And technically, in this case, you are basically
your own managing employee, so you can, you know,
set those hours and leave them intact. But there's
also another set. And this is where this story
comes in. And I don't blame Nick if he decided
to disappear. I'm here. Okay. But I thought for
this podcast, I would lay out some of how this
works. Actually, I got caught in a very interesting
phone call with somebody we've talked about.
And I can mention it off air. Oh. Okay. Uh -oh.
Yes. Uh -oh. So, there's another type of support,
which is called 24 -hour care. You don't have
family. You're not necessarily in a state where
you can't do everything. But there are some things
you need help with because of other disabilities.
Maybe that's the best way to explain this. Because
one of my people can't use their hands at all.
Right. They're in a wheelchair. But they cannot
use their hands. They're basically paralyzed
from the... What did they tell me? The shoulder's
down? Oh, yeah. So... That's when you get 24
-hour care. Where you always have somebody around
if you need anything. Now, I don't know if the
gentleman in question always had 24 -hour care,
or if that came later. But we know that the person
in question became bedridden About two years
ago. For the final time. Now, let's fast forward
to last Sunday. And these two, as I said, were
having a civil conversation. Apparently, one
didn't know the other worked during the day for
the gentleman in question. Okay, that's all well
and cool. Talk to people you didn't know that
came in? All right, fair. Yeah. But then it turned
into a very interesting question. Hmm. Do you
know what happened to Ben's piano? Ah, shit.
Now, Before people start emailing me and saying
how could they take a piano out, I do want to
make it known that we do not know if this was
a full -size piano, if this was a Casio, if it
was a mid -size keyboard piano. You know, we
don't know. gentleman who I respected said, I
don't know. Okay. Maybe something happened and
you happen to be out of the room and something
happened. You have no idea. Okay, that's fair.
But then the girl who was assisting me and her
client, mind you, I did most of the assisting
that day. Oops. Yep. Did I just say that? Yeah.
I'm afraid you did. Oops. Because they were off
not paying attention to their client, but off...
wandering around and doing I don't know what.
But this girl started with this guy saying, how
did you not know where his piano went off to
when you worked during the day? Which is a fair
question. Yeah. And this went on for about five
or ten minutes. And mind you, I'm a guest on
the other side of town. Now, you guys already
know the answer to this. Maybe you don't. many
miles did I travel to get down there to pay my
respects? Oh yes, I know, but I don't want to
give it away. Okay. Fair. I'm gonna go off memory,
but at least It was somewhere in the 30 range,
because we do know it was seven hours total trip
time. Higher. It is higher. It is higher than
30 miles. I wish it were just 30, but no, it's
higher. Yeah, okay, got it. 46? 46 is close.
So close. So close. It was about 47 and a half.
I said I wasn't going to give it away. Well,
now it's time to give it away. 47 and a half.
Or so. Did it say 47 or 47 and change? I actually
think it said 47. Okay. So let's say 47. I knew
it was somewhere in the 40s. Alright. Fair enough.
Who was the one that said 50? Me. Just about.
You said that. You said 50. I must be good. Yeah,
I was trying to do my rounding all those years
ago. And I knew that it was about 22 miles between
here and Union Station. And then... It said 25
or 26 miles between Union Station and downtown
Long Beach. And then about another fourth of
a tenth of a mile. So it's about 47 and a half
miles. hours and 30 minutes going. Three hours
and 49 minutes coming back. Yes. That's what
the final tally was. Seven hours and about 19
minutes. Minutes. Ladies and gentlemen. Now think
about the discussion point a minute. You have
two people working at this gentleman's home giving
him 24 -hour care. And you don't know what happened
to his fucking piano? Or keyboard? Or whatever
it might have been? How the fuck is that even
possible? I know. That's what I was wondering
when he told me his story. Like, something doesn't
add up. We're talking about people in your own
home, which will be our formal discussion in
either two or three weeks' time. I don't know
exactly how we're doing this because I have a
meeting at 3 o 'clock. that I have to be at.
I can attend it from home, but I have to be there.
So, we offline need to determine whether we're
coming back in two or three weeks. And I know
we're sort of adjusting, but... People got to
work with me a little bit because Metro work
and what they're doing now is valuable, especially
since the 2028 Olympics is around the corner.
And it's going to be here faster than you can
snap your paws at. Yeah. But I want to go around
the room. We did this on Saturday and Mr. Ring's
not here so I know everybody on TSB was there
on Saturday so I forgive him. But I want to go
around the room and pretend that you either need
minimal care like I do or you just need somebody
to come in and do some you know, chores and maybe
some laundry and go to the store or help you
with taking equipment somewhere or help you fill
out paperwork or whatever. To the 24 -hour person
who can't do a whole lot, whatever their reasons
are, I mean, I told my guy this, and I physically
asked him this question. And I'm not trying to
cause my own fate here. But it was an honest
question. If I were to die tomorrow, would you
go try looking through my stuff, looking for
money you know that I have around here? Because
he knows that I carry money. Yep. What do you
think his answer was, gentlemen? It was a big
fat no. Essentially. Nick? I'm going to go with
Preston on this one. Ding, ding, ding, fucking
ding. Ding. And the reason being is you've been
dealing with him for years. And, you know, he
can assist you and be there for you for anything
you may need. He actually just bought me drinks.
He actually just bought me drinks not too long
ago. To assist me with making sure that I have
drinks around here. I've got food here, so I
don't necessarily need somebody to come in and
do a grocery run. I can survive another week
and a half. He is down in Nigeria on vacation.
Hello, buddy. Nice to have you aboard. He is
a listener of the program. Yes. Yes. I love it.
Before he left for Nigeria the first time, when
he started with me, I said, you are not... And
by the way, he was on Android. I said, you are
not going without something that I can communicate
with you with. You're downloading this program
so that I can communicate with you. And it's
end -to -end encrypted. They cannot get at our
data without you providing it. And it's the best
there is right now. And you know what? He followed
it. He did it on his own. Okay, that was broken.
Oh, that was broken. Oh, jeez. Not that. I think
it was stuck, too. Yeah, that too. A little stuck.
By the way, they did put this gentleman's ashes
in the church's... Columbarium, which is a column
-based area in the church similar to a cemetery
where you can be buried. It's ash -based. This
isn't a body. Right. Just want to make that clear.
Okay. Because I was going to ask them while I
was there, and I thought, you know what? Today's
not the right day. No. So I asked the GPT on
the way home. It seems to... me like it's my
therapist. Because it's like when I ask it something
and then it tells me that and I'm like, oh. Duh.
And it's like my second brain. You know? And
then when I call myself a stupid fuck or I'll,
you know, whatever. It'll go, hold on a second.
You're not... You just had... And it starts recounting
everything that's gone on for the week. I'm like,
oh. Yep. Okay. Uh -huh, uh -huh. Yeah, my therapist.
I'm actually glad I did go, because I retrieved...
They didn't even know what to do with this thing,
okay? So they're like, we've got this Metro piece
of art here. And I'm like, okay? I didn't remember
this gentleman in question taking an art piece.
From Metro. I mean they have art. But you have
to buy it. From their store. Unless you get like
a replica. Like I do of the 4000 rail car. When
we went. And then when I got on the train. And
I shot a picture of it. in its bags because I
had to go and get we had to go and get bags because
I didn't bring anything but medication and crackers
for my butt. Luckily, My butt decided that it
was actually going to behave and I didn't need
the medicine, but I needed the crackers because
I was hungry. I know I'm turning this into a
comical routine, but I'm trying to make it funny.
I don't know how successful I'm doing at the
moment. Probably not too well. The Giants are
shitting everywhere. This is terrible. Oh, God.
Oh, ew. Not literally. It's the Giants and the
Padres, right? I am getting score updates on
that game. Yes, they're shitting everywhere.
Ugh. Just as much as I did last week? Seeming
like that. Okay. Okay. Um... Am I... Not running.
Missing anything? Like... Who took anything?
Oh, it's possible. Unfortunately. It is possible.
Especially when they found out that the whole
place was turned upside down. After his death.
Who would do that? Oh gosh yes. That means. It
had to be somebody. Who worked for him. I hope
the company. That I hired. To assist. Don't come
into my home and turn it upside down if they
find me gone. I hope not. I don't think so. Or
am I missing something? Kristen, should I end
today's program with the track we ended the memorial
with? Oh, yes. I would think so. mean to turn
this into a sad moment, ladies and gentlemen,
but this is security in your home. And this will
lead in to our topic in either two or three weeks.
We need to discuss this and determine what to
do based on my scheduling. I could, in theory,
go downtown for that meeting. If we skip it,
if we do the podcast, I have to have a hard out
three... It has to be a hard 2 .30 stop. Or something.
Right. Because that's going to be a two -hour
meeting. Hmm. And I don't know yet. I have the
rough ideas file from my source. And I don't
know how much work I got to do with it yet. Because
it sounds like I'm going to have to do some rewriting.
So. It was their idea based on a conversation,
but they don't have a lot of experience, so...
Oh, yes. We will make it work. I think so. Folks,
I think this is something to think about. I really
do, because... Yes. Yep. Just having any old
person in your home... To take care of you. While
they may do things properly. Or not. While you're
alive. They might. Do something. To take advantage
of you. After the fact. And you'll know. I'm
sure. That's right. And you've got to remember
too. I would say, you know, you need to have
those conversations while you're still here because
tomorrow is never promised. And you may never
know what's ahead in the next fight. No, I'm
going to disagree with you a little bit on this,
Preston. But part of that, when we're talking
about this kind of arrangement, this is something
you'd have to talk to an attorney about, i .e.,
you know, creating a will. I agree. But having
the conversation... Oh, by the way, the will
is only part of the problem, Nick. If a... The
will's a good idea. I'm not pushing back on that.
But when you're dealing with an agency who knows...
where all your shit is, even with a will, that's
not going to protect you. That is true. Yeah.
But I think I will say that both Preston and
Nick are right. Because without a will, saying
what is supposed to be done with your shit, if
it gets stolen, there's no recourse if somebody
you designate is supposed to have it. Now, to
be fair, this gentleman died at the age of 80,
and we believe he's got no... major family left,
if anybody left. Yeah. So they took a lot of
his paraphernalia, his trinkets, his art pieces.
There were art pieces there. But this is definitely
something to think about. Because we're going
to talk about especially, I mean, look at it
this way. These people are living with you. If
they're not at their own home, they're technically
living with you. And next week's podcast is...
Dealing with live -in situations. That's basically
what this is. Except that you have multiple people
coming in throughout the day and night. Versus
somebody you live with 24 hours a day. But I
think this could be tied into both sets. getting
messages all over the place. ChatGPT just sent
me a reminder and Snooster just pinged. Okay.
Am I missing anything? No. I don't think so.
I don't think so. Have I lost it? I don't think
you have, but I mean, you really need to be asking
the right questions and thinking about these
things. Because as I said at the end of the last
segment, this very well could happen to anybody,
no matter if you are. enrolled in services or
if you are basically on a new path like myself
what do you think the conversation should be
when you hire because you're basically hiring
them and the company that you hire from that
offers these services is paying your bill, right?
Yes. Regional Center is paying the bill for this
company's services. What would the conversation
look like if you were to have the conversation?
And I agree with the will, by the way. Yeah.
I think for me, I would start out by saying,
well, do you know and understand where I keep
my things and how I have things set up in my
facility? That's one good question to start out
with. Well, yeah, I think most of them would
learn that if they work with you long enough.
Finally, the Giants scored. Sorry. Good job.
Nick, do you like that question? I'm a little
mixed on that question because... I'm a little
mixed on it, too. Because it's not about, do
you know where all of my stuff is? Of course
they're going to know where your stuff is, eventually.
It would be a very uncomfortable question, but
I can't really think of any other way to ask
it or approach this. It's like, do I... Can I
have any kind of references or anything from
your past employment to prove that you are trustworthy?
That's an interesting question. And yes, if you
ask for references, they have to provide them.
Yeah, but I understand why that would create...
probably a fair amount of discomfort. But you
don't have to, you can just say, you know, you're
coming into my home. Do you have references that
can back up your work? Yeah. In this field that
I can talk to to verify that you're, yeah. Yeah,
I mean, that would be the biggest thing, I think,
for me. Not so much, you know, do you know where
this is? Do you know how I, like, to do things.
It's more, can I even trust you? I agree. And
maybe I should have done that with the company
to begin with, but I was in a situation where
my other people were going to be leaving the
state that were assisting me at the time, and
we needed something in place. and I didn't like
the idea of having any of the companies they
were offering coming in to help me, because I'd
never heard of them at all. Right, I get it.
So I just picked one. Luckily, everybody who's
come in has been genuine, except for one, and
I caught them at their own game. We talked about
that. Yeah, I think you did. But it wasn't as
bad as the missing piano. No. That just blows
my mind. What other questions would you consider
asking if you had to hire a company and you weren't
in my situation where we needed somebody because...
My people were leaving the state, so asking for
references just wasn't adequate. Right, I get
it. I get it. But I like the idea. If I had more
time, then I would have done that. Go ahead,
next person. I still like the idea that I asked
my guy. Since you know I have this in my home,
or that in my home, if I were to go tomorrow,
would you come back here and go looking for that
shit? Oh, interesting question. Yeah, I think
I would ask that too. I .e., the money. That's
in an envelope somewhere in my possession. Yeah.
And essentially, can I trust you enough to make
sure that if I were to croak up on such and such
day, can I trust you? Back to my question, exactly.
Can I trust you well enough not to take advantage
of what I have possessed over, you know, how
many years I've been in this place? Yeah. I mean,
what I'd want to know would be on a more basic
level. What are the tasks, if any, that you are
comfortable doing? assisting with because some
people aren't you know with certain things yeah
well the gentleman in question um basically had
a fit when the one guy wouldn't help him in the
bathroom he eventually got up out of his chair
because at the time he was able to walk some
I didn't know this I didn't know this But he
apparently got up out of his chair and went to
do what he needed to do. But he was a great little
bear. I mean, you talk to him and everybody knew
who he was. And he was friendly and, you know,
loving. And he wanted to help you if he could.
You know, so he was a courageous little bear.
They had their boundaries. I'm not going to help
you with that, but I'll help you with this instead
because he was a therapist. He told me that.
Right. But there are some people who actually
do need help in the bathroom. One of my other
people do. I'm confident of that. Yeah. But I
think the biggest thing for me would be you know,
you know where all my stuff is. If I were to
go, would you start coming here and having everybody
showing up and taking shit? Yes. I think so.
That just blew my mind to find this place overturned
and nobody knows where anything is, although
they collected a bunch of stuff. Including the
aforementioned art piece, which is actually a
plaque. With a gavel. That we gave. To him in
2019. After he retired. As part of the AAC. Oh
yeah. That's not a piece of art. I know. That's
a treasure. Yeah. And since one of my people
didn't know exactly what to do with it, they
asked me if I wanted it, and I said I didn't
bring anything to take it home. But it's now
sitting on my mantel downstairs. Are we missing
anything? I would have asked the same thing.
So that would have been an all -important factor
to ask. It's approaching 3 .15 and I only have
an hour. Is there anything else that we would
like to cover? I know I haven't blogged anything.
I haven't really had time. I've had a lot going
on. Malwarebytes had a few things that we wish
were April Fool's jokes, but they're not. Please.
So, I was reading about something the other week.
in their newsletter called Dark Sword, which
essentially exploits... It's a chain of exploits,
apparently, that targets older iPhones. And basically,
this thing gets on there, and it seems to depend
on... the country you know where it is being
deployed and who's deploying it like why like
what they're looking for but basically it pilfers
personal information and pretty much just takes
all of it in one go that it can and then deletes
itself and covers its tracks yeah i know i mean
if i understand this correctly because it's been
a while since i read this but yeah My response
for those who did not hear me on air was, oh,
gee. Yep. And then, oh, there was one I read
about the other day. And this one is potentially
just as dangerous. It's something called Friendly
Dealer. That sounds like a poker game. Yeah,
I know. You're not far off. What it is, essentially,
no, but it's close. It's close because it is
a fake app store that basically shows you all
these casino games and you can invest your money
in these places that are supposedly casino, but
obviously they're fake apps. So who knows where
this money's going? Yeah, right. It's definitely
not going to you. Yeah. So yeah, the fake...
Yes, the fake app store links. And speaking of
fake links, well, I didn't mess with anything,
but... I keep getting those red flag primary
mid election things that - You're gonna get more
of them, Preston. You're gonna get more of them.
I know, I know. I'm aware of that. Mm -hm. Yep,
sadly, this is only the beginning for those.
So, yeah. And even though I am a working man
now with my daily duties and Jared stuff, I'm
still getting job red flag texts, you know, the
fake recruiting, you know, the stuff I talked
about. Oh, those are always going to be there.
... let new people know that, hey, they're out
there. Okay. Not done yet. No. Oh, yeah, and
it's probably going to be even crazier. And I
still get the re -emails and the FWB... emails
and the... I don't know what's going on with
these. Is there a domain called gmailservice
.com? Because... I don't think so. Okay. Probably
sounds like somebody that a scammer purchased
and... Because my form was filled out with some
Gmail services or service .com email address
and started telling a bunch of crap. Of course
they did. Sounds pretty fake. Yeah. Yeah, for
sure fake. Damn. Damn. And I spot that shit at
5 o 'clock in the morning when I go looking at
email and see if there's anything of importance.
And next it'll be Appleserviceskit .com or some
weird thing like that. Speaking of updates and
things, Sean is back by the looks of it. He is.
But he mentioned a thing, and it's only rumor
at this point, that apparently Windows 12 may
be subscription -based, but again, it's only
rumor. I don't know if it's actually going to
materialize into anything, but that's what he
mentioned. There's talk of that. Oh, boy. Ars
Technica. Or WindowsInsider .com. Might be your
sources for that. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I reckon
so. But I guess keep monitoring that. I'd hate
to cut us short, but 4 .30 comes quickly, Wiggly.
Yep. Okay. And I have a 4 .45 bus to catch for
a 6 .30 meeting. All right. Yep. Which I will
for sure plan to listen in on. I think we have
covered everything that I can consider unless
you have anything else. I have a little bit of
time. This won't take long. Just a, at least
in my case, traditional snail mail thing to be
aware of. Oh, yes, you said you were going to
mention this on the next CSB. I remember this.
Go ahead. Yes, so they're an outfit that calls
themselves the Public Safety Crime Center. And
supposedly what they will offer you is wireless
anti -theft tracking. This sounds like the club.
The club. Or what used to be advertised all those
years ago. On Star. On Star. Right. Which was
good for its day. Yeah. I enjoyed learning about
it. We had a club. That was an interesting little
device. Wow, yes. This apparently is too, because
from what I could gather about them... Nick Espinosa,
Preston. Yeah, I know. I think I'm going to send
that to you, but we're not surprised. I didn't
hear the whole alert, but go ahead, Mr. J. So
what I could gather, granted it was on Reddit,
but what I could gather was... People have actually
called dealerships to ask if this is a service
they need, and some of the replies have been,
we've never heard of them. Yeah. This sounds
like Mr. How many times did we cover this guy
podcast? Which guy? Oh, brother. The one I covered
about five or ten times in the last five years.
Because he's the UK guy. Oh, yeah. Oh, Davies.
What's his face? Davies is correct. Davies, yes.
Thank you. Who has all those fake businesses?
Yes. Supposedly. I wonder if he's involved in
that. I wonder. Yeah, you know what? Me three.
I mean, shouldn't he be indicted by now? I thought
he should be locked up by now. Yeah, but he's
not. Yeah, because he was able to get out through
technicality. And then they realized that they
had the right guy. And the last we knew, he was
still wanted. Great. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. The Public
Safety Crime Center, who believes that I own
a 2019 Jeep Cherokee. Oh, God. Now, what I think
they did there, I believe there's another Nicholas
Jackson. And so what they did is they basically
just merged his info with mine. Yeah. I think
that's probably what happened. But even then,
they're mailing this thing and nobody knows who
they are. Right. And, you know, they have a PIN
number that you can enter, like supposedly a
customer reference number. It's always, of course,
like most scams, you have to do this before April
6th or whatever day it was. Otherwise, you'll
lose your discount. We'll waive the $388 activation
fee or whatever it was. And it even looked like,
yeah, and they even tried to make it seem like
one of those official government things with
the whole instructions for how to open this material,
which is nothing more than a scam. You know,
fold these perforated edges or blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah. Like, no. Fold these perforated edges?
Like, fold these edges and tear along this, this,
and whatever. Tear along the perforations and,
you know, open on this side next. One of those.
But it's fake all the way. Yeah. Really? Uh -huh.
That is just asinine. But they're trying to make
themselves sound official. Yeah. But they smelled
awful. Oh, they did. Oh, my. Yeah. Come on. How
much more stupid can you get? People fall for
that, Preston. A lot of people believe it. I
know. That's what I'm saying. Like, they're frightened
by the marketing these people use. Like, you
know, if you don't have this technology, your
car may not be recovered in a theft. It's like,
oh my gosh, I gotta go get it! I gotta go get
this! But you know what you can do nowadays?
Hmm, what's that? You can do what Kim recommends.
Buy a $30 piece of shit air tag. Okay, I don't
mean it that way, but... Buy a $30 piece of shit
air tag. Shove it up your engine's ass in the
wheel well or whatever they tell you to put it.
And it'll take care of you. Because you'll know
exactly where your car is. Yeah. That's what
you do. You're only losing 30 bucks. But back
in the day, you ought to get OnStar because that's
what it was. It was OnStar and the club. And
there was really, really ancient old days in
the really ancient days, LoJack. It was LoJack
and OnStar. Oh, yeah. Those were the two big
names of the day. Yeah, I got it back with LoJack.
OnStar was mainly for accident assistance. Right.
Where LoJack was meant for... That was theft.
Yes. But when your car was yanked, you could
get an All -Star agent on the phone and they
could go track your car. Your car's in Tijuana.
Just like... My butt. Yeah, your car is in...
Actually, I don't know. Internationally, would
that be a problem? I'm guessing it would. That
would be a problem. Which is probably what these
people know. But they won't tell you that. Of
course not. No, of course not. Yeah, I'm not
getting a signal on your vehicle. Oops. Yeah,
it looked like it was in San Ysidro, California,
but now it's not. Well, damn. Well, yeah, because
that's a border crossing, so obviously they'd
lose it after that. Like I said. Well, damn.
Uh -huh. Right. That's a bit intense. A little
bit. Yeah, and apparently I've been, from what
I was reading, they also have gone after people
with text messages, and I think there have been
phone calls and the snail mail. And essentially
what can happen, and this is again according
to Reddit, is that this is or can be a phishing
campaign where they're phishing for, of course,
your personal info when you call them. Yeah.
Can we have information on your 2019 Chrysler,
sir? Oh, the one I don't own? Sure. Well, we
have knowledge that you have that car, sir. Oh,
no, that was Nicolette Jackson. She's 105 years
old and passed away. I don't know what they do
with... I don't know what they do with that.
Oh, they'd have a comeback for that. Oh, sir,
well, according to this, it's now in your name,
sir. Now it's in your name, sir. We want to offer
this to you. No, I'm good. We want to help you.
So, question. If I were to call my local Chrysler
dealership, would they know who you are? Absolutely,
sir. We registered with them yesterday. All right.
Well, let's put this to the test. I'm going to
three -way you and we're going to call the Chrysler
dealership right now. And then as you're getting
ready to click over, click. Uh -huh. Where'd
that son of a bitch go off to? Yeah. How do we...
Well, I think... Well, I don't know if, you know,
incognito might help with that. Because these
places just mail random places, right? So they're
not necessarily targeting you. That's what it
seems like. No, I mean, it's just they probably
just go based on some of the random stuff they
have in public records and they just send these
things out. Yeah, I think that's just it. What
a waste of money. I know. If I were going to
do that, I'd be doing that crap by email. It
doesn't cost me anything. Right. Oh, but then,
but see, the thing is, if you do it by email,
that's immediately going to raise red flags for
some people. Who's been around for a while. Right.
But whether it's deserved or not, stuff that
comes as snail mail. I think, unfortunately,
is viewed as more official and more legitimate
by a lot of people, even if it's not. I agree.
Uh -huh. And that's what they're banking on,
I believe. I agree. Uh -huh. You do not talk
about this anymore on this show. That's right.
Public Safety Crime Center is a legitimate organization.
We want to help customers. I wonder if we could
do a... So a Google search or a DuckDuckGo search
or one of them basically turned up Reddit stuff
about this? There's no, like, legitimate... I
think there might have been a website, but...
I wonder if the GPT... Of everything. It seems.
Would know. Shooted a picture of the, if you
still have it, of the piece of mail. I sadly
don't, but. And. Six to one, top of the eighth
inning. Or bottom of the eighth inning. Oh, great.
3 .34 p .m. 3 .35 p .m. Screen lock. 3 .35 p
.m. Notification. MLB. What I was going to say
was take a picture of that thing. Shove it up.
Chat GPT's ass. I swear, it's got all of those
emails that I've gotten through the years, and
it's been able to tell me about every single
one of them. Yeah, that's totally impressive.
And let it tell you if this is legitimate or
not. I did that with one of the text messages
that I got. And it was actually a legitimate
-looking text message, and it was able to verify
that. So... That's what I'd do. Yeah. Ah. Okay.
Well, it does actually have something about them.
So... It could be phishing, but it could also
just be very, very shady marketing because the
very first thing it says, the Public Safety Crime
Center, often abbreviated PSCC, is a relatively
new private company focused on crime prevention
rather than a government agency or police department.
But they're trying to impersonate one. Clearly.
Seven to one. I believe we're still bottom of
the eighth. We are. Let's talk about this in
several weeks. Maybe this will be our first segment.
I'd be interested more in this. So save that
and turn that into a document, and maybe I can
turn that into Braille so we can discuss it.
There should be a copy button if you're using
the web. Put it on your clipboard. If you're
using the phone, you'll use your phone. Oh, yeah,
there is. There is. Copy response. I see it right
there. Yep. Do that. Yep. Paste it somewhere.
Edit it to your liking and drop it to me. All
right. I'm approaching ending time. Yeah, I was
going to say... Because 4 .30 is going to come
real quick. Yeah, yeah. Understood. For sure.
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