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Box. I'm Jared Reimer. This is program number
268. Recorded on Wednesday, February 18th, 2026.
Coming up, why are we changing the podcast a
little bit? I .e. adding episodes. that include
A, B, C, etc. Details are in our show notes,
but we will go ahead and talk about this change
here on today's podcast. From last Saturday,
chat GPT and app recommendations. Why did I go
into this conversation with the AI tool? What
happened? Also, from Saturday, Terry asked me,
why can't I train Gemini? To do the same thing
that ChatGPT is doing already for me? This podcast's
video is going to be Microsoft's backdoor into
our encryption. Which I don't think made it into
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everybody! Welcome aboard. This is program 268
of the series. It is February 18th. And, uh...
We are going to go into a deep dive in a couple
of items that we talked about on Saturday. And
our main topic today... Why is Menvee... And
the J .R .N. More secure than your multi -billion
dollar company. I'll let people guess on that
one. I'm not saying I'm 100 % perfect. We have
had our issues, just like any other company.
But we've never been breached. where our data
has been pilfered. I also have been doing a little
bit of research into some of the emails we've
been getting that we've talked about here on
TSB. I'm also going to talk about some structural
changes coming to TSB that will assist us in
making sure we get as much as we can out into
the landscape. We also have a leftover from last
podcast where I don't think it got aired and
if it did it'll be repeated and it's the Microsoft
thing that Mr. Espinoza had Microsoft's backdoor
into our encryption. Now, I don't know if this
did get played, so we're just going to play it
anyway. And, of course, the show notes have the
difference between what we do on throwback and
what we do on this program. It's more relaxed
and conversational, where TSB goes deeper, offering
detailed analysis and discussion. Okay. Let's
go ahead and get started by first talking about
the structure of the program. Preston recently
gave me 11 videos. I haven't had a chance to
download them yet, but what we're going to do
is we're going to start using our ABC format
in between podcasts. And this will allow us to
keep TSB within a reasonable time frame. While
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So, let's go ahead and talk a little bit about
what's coming up. So, on throwback Saturday night,
Terry asked me an interesting question about
how come I couldn't train Gemini like I did ChatGPT.
And it's not that I'm against Gemini or any other
model. It's that I don't really have the time.
I need something that I was able to train and
work with. So, that isn't really going to help
me. And since the next fifth week is not until
July. That's really why. But we can go into more
detail. Next, what happened with my workflow?
And why did it become a problem? And then, of
course, our main topic. So, since I have nobody
here yet on Team Talk... Let's go ahead and play
one song. And then we'll get right on started.
hear home free home freeze version from their
single listen to the music and back. I still
have nobody on the server. We push on. And by
the way, we do have plenty of topics coming up.
And if something breaks, we will... Get it out
there. Yes, we're just having all kinds of issues
right now. But it's okay. Let's push along with
the program. We'll do our topic list toward the
end. Let's start with... the app recommendations,
because this is kind of interesting. And I think
this is more of my computer issues now than anything,
but I think I can get all of this to work. I
asked ChatGPT about which mainstream apps were
talked about within the mainstream media today.
Here is what it said word for word. And there
was a trivia question for throwback on what it
recommended, and nobody did get it right. We're
not going to do the trivia question today. But
the text does have the answer. It says... You're
describing technical debt exactly the way practitioners
mean it. Not as a buzzword, but as accumulated
friction caused by disruption. And I was really
disrupted this week. Well, since my last podcast
anyway. Being sick, which is what started the
whole thing back on the 29th. Having to learn
a new tool, me, in parentheses, and that's because
I wanted to do symptom evaluation. Apps breaking,
workflows collapsing, and commitments stacking
up, i .e., Where's SANS? It hasn't been around
in a while. That is technical debt. Preston and
Terry Get It tells me you explained it clearly
and credibly. Basically, and we'll get into this
in a longer segment, technical debt basically
means that you've gotten behind because things
are broken. And you got to learn new tools. On
your question about mainstream sources, what
mainstream sources are recommending right now,
the stuff that keeps showing up in Google slash
AI lists blogs and top apps. Here's the usual
lineup you'll see over and over. And this is
now going to just talk about what is recommended
from the mainstream. Current Pattern. These are
the names that keep resurfacing regardless of
actual accessibility quality. So ChatGPT understands
accessibility stuff. I'm not going to say that
Gemini or any other tool doesn't. But based on
what I've been able to see, this is what we have.
The first item is Microsoft OneNote. Still the
default safe recommendation. Cross -platform,
enterprise -friendly, uneven but workable with
screen readers. Okay, so if you used it, I would
love to hear from you. Let me know how that worked
for you. I'm curious. Because how are we going
to know whether it actually works? Okay. Evernote
is the next item. Constantly mentioned due to
brand recognition. Heavier subscription. Centric.
mixed accessibility depending on platform, and
update. Again, what we want to know is whether
it's usable for you. I'm not going to say whether
it does or doesn't because I've not used the
tool. But I do want to know. Because if I don't
know, how am I going to decide what works the
best? Right? So... There we go. Terry actually
brought this particular item up. And it is titled
Notion. And Notion I actually never heard of.
I may have heard of it once, but it's not familiar
to me. Extremely popular in tech productivity
circles. Often recommended despite significant
accessibility issues and cognitive overhead.
So if you used it... Let me know what you think.
Google Keep. Now, this sounds pretty good to
me. But, Google Keep is mainly the notes facility
of Outlook. Where you get. Basically the. Notepads.
That are colored. You can basically type into
them. But. That's really all you can do. A lightweight.
Simple. Frequently suggested because it's bundled
and familiar. Not because it's robust. So it's
mainly a note -taking app. I used it when I had
Outlook. And people are probably asking, why
didn't you just use Apple Notes? Well, Apple
Notes does work. But, has some issues it cannot
export as plain text so when i wanted to use
it to export to chat gpt to do log analysis It's
in HTML. Regularly recommended in Apple -centric
spaces. Accessibility is decent, but portability
and exports are limited. The next item, Obsidian.
Increasingly mainstream in power user articles.
File -based markdown variable. Accessibility
depending on setup. It's not saying it is, and
it's not saying it isn't. So, I've never used
the tool. If you have, I would love to hear from
you and you let me know what works for you. Now,
here's the next one. GoodNotes. Another one I've
heard of, but I've not used it. Almost always
included in accessible lists. Even though handwriting
first tools are hit or miss for blind users.
I've not used it. But my question would be, if
you use it, what did you think? Because it says
it is a handwriting tool. And I know that us
as blind people, since that's what I seem to
target, is basically not worth it. I don't know
if it does standard print. So that's why we're
talking about it, right? The next item is otter
.ai, which I've heard of and it is talked about.
Shows up for transcription in the notes. Well,
it shows up more for transcription in the notes,
but it's routinely lumped in. What's telling
and reinforces your point is that simple notes,
which is the answer to the question that was
out there, rarely appears in these lists anymore,
despite being stable. Being fast, not crashing,
not demanding constant re -authentication gymnastics,
and crucially, getting out of the way. Mr. J,
welcome to TSB. Yep, good to be here. I mean,
at least for a bit. There's something else I'm
in the middle of, so... I don't know if I'll
be here for long, but... Well, we're talking
app recommendations, and SimpleNote was recommended
to me when Google Docs crashed and burned during
actual logging. Since February 2nd, the app version
of the very good productivity suite, even though...
You double tap to go to the bottom of the screen.
It, Mr. J, does not do it anymore. It puts your
edits at the top. Okay, then. Now, there are...
Some workarounds. You can set bookmarks and tell
it to go to the bookmark. You can turn off voiceover,
scroll to the bottom, tap at the bottom of the
screen, type a letter or something. Turn on voiceover.
And it'll work. Until the next time you go out
of the note. And simple note, it recommended,
but I found a very serious bug. That is, that
when I actually do logging, and there are colons
like 1030 as we do time, it crashes and burns.
Okay. Exactly. I .E. technical debt. And did
you know that SimpleNote, even though it's good,
which is a web -slash -app universe... It's good,
but you would basically have to use the web interface
if you were on mobile, which is fine. It's got
a link interface where you can log in by just
clicking a link or entering a code or entering
your credentials. But on February 12th, I had
to move away from it, even though it works well.
Right? I mean, it works well. I have notes in
it, including our upcoming podcast list. And
I've got other stuff in it, and I've been able
to log onto the web and clean it up and do. Cannot
use it for long -term logging. It's good for
basic document stuff. As my file indicates, and
you have all of these files, so if you have to
leave, you can read this and then comment later.
Right. That's classic invisible reliability.
It doesn't generate content, hype, or economics.
So AI summaries... Under rank it. Your simple
note observation matters. What you notice is
important and very you. Passwordless email. Magic
link slash code. Log in on the web. That's great.
That means you don't technically need your password.
Traditional credentials in the app. Seamless
recovery after closing the browser. No crash
on paste, which it doesn't. No drama. That's
resilience, not flash. And it directly contrasts
with Google Docs. which it did. I just described
that to you. And by the way, we've gone through
two updates since. Discovery Tools breaking.
AppleVis in NVDA. It wrote VDA, but it's supposed
to be NVDA. Basically, I wanted to go search
and see what the community was recommending these
days. And the search button on AppleVis doesn't
work anymore. At least it doesn't work on my
machine. Uh -oh. Using NVDA. And the time cost
of relearning workflows while already behind.
I haven't even issued much of any podcasts, including
SANS, since I got sick. Yeah, it's bad. So no,
you weren't wrong to paste the Google list or
to question my suggestion, which it recommended
like Notes or one of these other apps. Actually,
it recommended accessible something, rather,
from the NFB, but it isn't available anymore.
You were testing claims against reality, which
is exactly what technical debt analysis looks
like. If the trivia app Terry mentioned... Okay,
so... It was Notion. So I don't need to read
the rest of this. So Notion was it. And Notion
really doesn't meet my needs from what it is
saying. Google Docs is still good on the web.
But if you ever play with it, at least with the
latest versions, that's what this discussion
is going on. So, I'll ask you if you've used
any of these apps. Microsoft OneNote. I've heard
of, but I don't think I've ever used. Evernote.
Nope. Notion? Had only heard of it when you brought
it up, so no. Okay, alright. Google Keep? Nope.
Apple Notes? I may... I think so I may have used
that I've used it and then since it's tied to
my email I can grab things off the you know off
the computer and do it that way but it's more
work than it's worth right um obsidian nope Never
heard of it. GoodNotes? Nope. And Otter .ai?
No, just AppleNotes is the only one that I think
I have actually used once. These are the top
apps. Even though some may be blind friendly,
one's handwriting, one is meant for transcription,
and others may not have good accessibility. Pretty
bad, huh? Yeah, no kidding. And now that SimpleNote
can't be used as a reliable app for metro logging,
I've been testing a new one, although I've heard
of it before, called Drafts. It is an iOS and
Android app. It's got an ecosystem like an app
store where you can get basically templates to
improve its capability like inserting dates and
things of that nature. It's already passed all
of the tests that I need. I .e., it works in
airplane mode. I've been able to open and edit
notes. Even when airplane mode, I've been able
to use the colon facility as I've been normally
able to do. And it just works. It's text -first.
Ask questions later. It's always been that way.
So, something from ChatGPT in regards to app
recommendations. You can read the full file.
I think you only have a 40 cell on that. Let
me know if you want a 30. Alright. So, before
I go into training Gemini, have you read the
notes for today's main topic? Since I know you're
not going to be around long. I don't believe.
I have. I mean, I saw your rough thing that you
emailed. Okay. But that was the extent. I did
put the notes into everybody's folder yesterday.
Okay. But it uses the same concept from the rough
draft. So what do you think, since you know of
the rough draft, Can you tell listeners about
what we're doing differently than your mainstream
company? Well, the main thing that I would say
is that we are not collecting excess data and
we are not retaining it. That is huge. Tell me
more. Because, as we know, a lot of these breaches
happen because these companies, many of them,
and I understand at least some of the rationale,
you know, oh, well, we need this for legal, et
cetera, et cetera. But a lot of times, as we've
seen all too often, they hang on. To this data.
Months and months and months later. And so. When
there's a breach. You get hit. And it's needless.
Years later. Yes years later too. And it's needless
too. Because you may never. Do any business with
that company again. And they may. Have long since.
Used your data for. what it needed to be used
for. Yep. Yeah. That's pretty bad, huh? I agree.
What else can you tell listeners about Well,
from what I remember, we have a very straightforward
privacy policy and that unfortunately is something
that sets us apart it shouldn't be but it is
because some of those that these major major
apps and companies have are i would say borderline
opaque and they're about as clear as Which is
how you get away with... You notice how all the
other privacy policies are boilerplate legalese?
Oh, yes. How do you compare our privacy policies
Different to theirs. I would... Better. More
accessible in terms of understanding what is
necessary, what is collected, and that's not
much. And that we don't have a mechanism to slip
in all kinds of really shady tracking and...
Other questionable material. Okay. And we don't
allow for that. Nope. And if something's violated
and I'm told about it, out you go. Now tell me,
have you used Gemini? And what are your thoughts
on it? I have not. I've certainly heard a tremendous
amount about Gemini. Some good, some... Oh. Here
comes Preston. Go ahead. Yeah, so I've heard
a lot about it, but I've never actually used
it. Like I said, yeah, it's mixed. I've heard
some great things about it. I know that, I think
it was, who was it? Nuts .com announced that
Gemini was helping them, if I'm remembering this
correctly, in tracking down potential suppliers.
Well, when you get to that file, because you
said you were here for a limited time, I'd be
interested to hear what you think of this. It's
called Training Gemini. It is only available
as a 40 cell for you. Mm -hmm. The show notes
are in 30 cell, but the rest of this is in 40.
Sorry about that. That's okay. But Terry had
some very interesting thoughts. And when we go
through this, some of this will make sense. So
if you listen... I do have text messaging available,
and you can comment if you wish. Mr. G, welcome
to TSB. Hello, Jared. I'm here. I'm at your service.
I guess you are. Actually, so I do have some
downtime, but I do have a support broker meeting.
at 4, so if you can get my closing file ready,
that would be great. I have it. Thank you. So
I have been listening, and definitely I do have
several comments. I'm actually going to make
them live. Go ahead. So for the app recommendations,
definitely a broad list, but as far as accessibility
goes, we are kind of SOL. So I understand why
the structure you're making for logging is what
you're making with drafts. I don't have a choice.
I could use SimpleNote and then rewrite all of
the timestamps. Because I would basically have
to take the colon out just to get it to work.
But that's counterintuitive. And on Thursday,
I had three out of six failures. Yeah, when you
told me that in your communication, I was literally
about to, I don't know, jump out of my chair.
Literally. And it took me half the afternoon
to redo my logs because of what Google did to
me. That's very ridiculous. And I've been using
that for years. Many years. That's just blah.
Wow. In simple notes, colon bug was just... Yeah,
that's totally unfortunate. I could not agree
with the panel more about this. And Nick said
he hasn't even heard of most of these mainstream
apps. Yeah, same here. I have heard of some,
not all. I mean, Apple Notes, I do use a lot
for my grocery list. And, you know, I've been
using for my new apartment list that I'm working
on. And I do know how to, you know, share with...
Collaborative family and stuff. And for Otter.
I have used that for. Mostly Zoom meetings. Teams
a little bit. But mostly Zoom stuff. It gives
good summaries. I want to look back on. And.
I know Zoom's. AI companion tool. Which unfortunately.
You have to. Purchase that. But. That's a good
tool. As well. Okay. So I think it's about. Portability.
And what you're willing to. Sacrifice. To get
more productivity done. Yeah. And. As far as
Gemini goes. I have. I don't use it. you know,
obviously a lot like Jerry was trying to, but
I have, I have it read me like email summarizations.
So I do know how to, you know, give it good and
bad ratings, but I haven't really like interacted
with it more when I have played around with it.
But, you know, hearing Terry's story on the other
program over the weekend that we contribute here,
you know, he was about to have an argument and
he was about to uninstall the app and such and
such. I think that's when you know that a company
doesn't really give a damn about its product.
No kidding, right? I'm being blunt about it,
but it's the unfortunate truth. And, yeah, I
had a Nick On my speaker, we were talking about
the impending topic coming up. And definitely,
you know, I definitely agree. I've read the notes
and the rough draft we did for it. And we do
have a strict privacy policy. But what I like
about what we do is, you know, we obviously don't
sell people's data out. We don't spam their content.
If we want to do business with them, we communicate
straight to them. And you don't see a lot of
companies do that nowadays. And by the way, I've
been getting more, and I don't know if Nick is
still listening, but I've been getting more of
these re -emails. Oh, no. More of them? Here's
what's interesting about them. Because I was
asking ChatGPT about this. These are actually
spam campaigns. ran at long -living domains like
mine, which they just send generic emails which
have been confirmed to come from Outlook or Gmail
because they use their exact servers to send
these out. Yep. I've been checking the addresses
every time you forward me something. They never
look at your website, not directly. It's not
technically at you. But by generating a reply,
they could in theory send you a report if they
want. Or they could try and upsell you a bunch
of stuff that you may or may not need. And remember,
some of these emails are like probably black
hat. SEL tactics which could get you banned from
Google and being indexed yeah that does not sound
good at all so and the fact that they're sending
them early in the morning is a signal where Kim
Commando said, if you want people to read your
email, send it early in the morning. Well, that's
exactly what the spammers have now gotten to.
And the fact that my domain has been open since
2008, and I got three of those today alone, signals
And not only that, but my address has been breached.
So once you're breached, your address is basically
in the open and it can be resold. So changing
your email every so often, like Steve Gibson
does, is a good practice, but not real practical
when you're basically running business. Yeah.
And you need to answer the public. Steve has
people that does that, so he can basically get
away with changing his address every year. Email
key verification is what it calls it. And I do
have two scam segments coming up. which will
be actually three. And once I get them recorded,
you at Throwback will get one large segment where
TSB will get two. But yeah, this is... And we've
got a bunch of topics coming. Yep, I'm working
on more. videos from our contributor I know you
sent me 11 I know aren't you proud I haven't
even gotten a chance to download them yet oh
well that's okay I'm just trying to add more
to our plate that's all Well, that's why we're
going to have the ABC podcast so that our podcasts
don't go, you know, 5, 10, 15 hours long. Right.
And, yep, I think that's a good idea. We will
do that indeed. So... Yeah. This is, uh... Interesting.
Very. I mean, it's unfortunate, but here we are.
I don't know what else to say, but it's just
total crazy. Before we get into our next topic
talking about Gemini, does anybody have anything
that they've seen from the blog? I do have a
KNX article I'm going to blog continuing about
the whole ordeal of the... Folks over at the
social media companies and what's going on over
there. Right. That was actually what I wanted.
Right. I mean, that was one of the things that
caught my eye. And then Sean has been chronicling
Microsoft's, you know, up and down. You know,
oh, they're... Maybe they're listening. Oh, well,
maybe they're not. And, you know, the fact, you
know, the AI, for example, and, you know, his
opinions on that have been, I think, pretty valid.
Okay. Yeah, totally. That's been a strong suit
of updates, and I've been reading all his stuff.
So I feel that that's good because I've been
using my 111 going on Four five almost six months
March I Haven't any big issue with this so far
which I know better not to click on that. Yeah.
Well, I'm more concerned about the update path
because we know that breaks. Yeah. I don't believe
I have bad update paths to report. be careful
with that. And I'll be entering the monitor as
a child, too. That gets underway. Well, then
I'll break for the Microsoft video, and when
we come back, we're going to do Gemini. Alrighty.
That's fair to me. The security box will continue
in just a moment across the Jared Reimer Radio
Network. If you're using BitLocker, you're not
nearly as secure as you think. Hey, everybody.
Nick Espinosa, your chief security fanatic here.
Don't forget to subscribe. And today, we are
talking about Microsoft's backdoor into the encryption.
that millions and millions and millions of Windows
computers are running. Now, Thomas Brewster of
Forbes had a great write -up on this, as did
some of the others, but I'm cribbing from him.
Full disclosure, I also published through Forbes.
But here's what's going on. Early last year,
if you didn't know, and you probably didn't,
the FBI in the United States... served Microsoft
with a search warrant asking essentially for
Microsoft to provide recovery keys to unlock
encrypted data stored on three laptops. Now,
federal investigators in Guam believe that the
devices would basically have evidence that would
help them prove that individuals handling the
island's COVID unemployment assistance program
were basically stealing funds, fraud, all that
kind of fun stuff. The data was protected with
BitLocker, as I mentioned right out of the gate.
And that software, if you don't know what it
is, that automatically essentially is enabled
now on many of the newer versions of Windows,
Windows 11. Windows 10 did not have it enabled
by default initially. And essentially, it's there
to encrypt the drive to safeguard your data.
If you don't know what encryption is, basically,
it scrambles it. And if you don't have the unlock
code, you basically can't see the data. That's
how essentially encryption works. It's possible
for users to store those keys, those passwords
to that encryption on basically a device they
own. But Microsoft recommends, and many people
do, that you store your BitLocker passwords or
your keys. essentially on its servers in the
Microsoft Cloud. You have a Microsoft account,
you're storing it there. And so while that means
basically that, you know, if for whatever reason
you forget your password, or if you have repeated
failed attempts that locks the device, you can
get into the cloud to essentially push and unlock
as you're validating essentially your identity
into your own account. But it also essentially
makes your keys, meaning unscrambling and unlocking
your data, it makes it vulnerable to law enforcement.
subpoenas and warrants. Microsoft has access
to the back end of their cloud. And so anything
you're storing there, not just BitLocker keys,
but your email, your files, everything, they
have access to this. Now, in the Guam case, essentially,
they handed over these encryption keys to investigators
who were able to unlock these laptops. Microsoft
also confirmed to Forbes and many other publications
that it does indeed provide BitLocker recovery
keys if it receives a valid legal order. And
that's interesting because what constitutes a
valid legal order depends on country, depends
on the type of government that the country has.
If you're being run by a dictatorship or something
and they have a warrant, is Microsoft honoring
that? Like these are serious questions here.
So according to Microsoft spokesperson Charles
Chamberlain, quote. Well, while key recovery
offers convenience, it also carries a risk of
unwanted access. So Microsoft believes customers
are in the best position to decide how to manage
their keys, end quote. And I wouldn't be storing
it at the cloud if I were you. Now, he said the
company receives about 20 requests for BitLocker
unlocks or keys per year. And in many cases,
the user has not stored their key in the cloud,
essentially saying, or rather Microsoft saying,
it's impossible for then Microsoft to assist.
In other words, if you're not storing. the key
in their cloud, and quite frankly, there are
other ways to do that, then they can't help.
Now, the Guam case also, for the record, is the
first known instance where essentially Microsoft
has provided encryption keys to law enforcement.
I'm sure they've done it before, but it's now
coming to light. Interestingly enough, if you
look at how, let's say, Apple, for example, structures
a lot of their products. They don't have that
ability just right out of the gate where Microsoft
says, yeah, we can absolutely do this. Now, back
in 2013, interestingly enough, a Microsoft engineer
also claimed that he had been approached by U
.S. government officials to install back doors
into BitLocker, but had turned the request down.
So great reporting, but. This just isn't great
in general. And I think it's also important to
note for the record that BitLocker has never
been the best option for full disk encryption.
There are third parties out there that will basically
wrap the whole hard drive and encrypt it. And
you can get out of Microsoft's ecosystem. So
BitLocker is not enabled. But the two critical
points that I want to talk about regarding BitLocker
in general and why it's not that great is, number
one, it doesn't actually encrypt the entire drive.
It encrypts your data, but there are elements
of the Windows operating system that it simply
will not encrypt, which means an attacker could
potentially infect you or possibly get in some
way. And the second point is. There have been
multiple damning flaws in the past that have
essentially allowed BitLocker encryption to be
bypassed in some way, shape or form. Now, most
notably in 2022, there is a huge BitLocker security
vulnerability using the Windows Recovery Environment
system to essentially just bypass BitLocker.
So you could access a drive that was encrypted
by BitLocker by simply holding the shift key
down while selecting restart. from the login
screen. This method allowed unauthorized local
access to the computer's hard drive, even if
it was encrypted, and particularly if the attacker
could interact with the machine during a Windows
update or via specific recovery troubleshooting
steps. In other words, these are the kinds of
things that we've seen before. There was one
in the past where I think if you held it down
for something like 37 seconds or something like
that, it would automatically bypass the encryption.
So the point is, if one guy is claiming they're
not putting in back doors, Maybe another engineer
is. I don't know. But there are definitely better
options here. The other side of this is the compliance
side. A lot of companies and organizations use
Microsoft BitLocker for encryption to adhere
to some kind of government compliance. But that
means that only authorized personnels should
be able to gain access to things like encryption
keys. But if you are storing your keys in the
cloud, it's not just you or your company's administrators
or your organization's administrators. It's you,
your administrators, and Microsoft. And they're
engineers. So I think this is a huge problem.
And especially in an age where we are pretty
much at a very low trust standard right now.
Right. We're at a very low trust point in society
of, you know, basically people versus the government,
et cetera, et cetera. If they are essentially
asking or requesting or getting court orders
or some kind of legal order for Microsoft to
do this and Microsoft is complying. Well, that
really does then just thwart the ability for
Microsoft to claim that they can be private.
Apple, very famously in 2016, I believe, 2015,
2016, with the San Bernardino shooter, the FBI
said, we want you to break your own encryption
and figure out a backdoor. And Apple said, nope,
go pound sand. So essentially the FBI had to
figure it out themselves, paying an attacker
a lot of money to be able to figure that one
out. You know, so that's what I want to see.
You know, I'm not a big Apple fan, but I give
them all the respect in the world for that. Privacy
should be private. We should not be making systems,
let alone laws, to basically cater to the lowest
common denominator. Most of us are not criminals.
We're not going to defraud the COVID -19 program
from Guam, et cetera, et cetera. And our privacy
should be sacrosanct. And I think that is something
that, quite frankly, we are missing these days.
And when all governments around the world are
asking for things like back doors, and we've
seen it not just in the United States. out of
the UK and other major countries that have basically
said, the politicians have basically said, we
want this, including the last one being India.
This is a real big issue. So we're going to see
what happens here. But it's not good. It's not
a good look for Microsoft. And quite frankly,
in the era of political low trust, it's not good
for anybody. And I don't care what you believe
politically. And please like, share, follow me
here on Facebook and Twitter at NickAESP. And
please don't forget to subscribe to me at YouTube
as well. And as always, stay safe, stay online,
and please, please, please attempt to stay private,
which apparently is something you really can't
do if you're using BitLocker and Microsoft's
cloud together. Take care. Well, folks, hope
you enjoyed the Microsoft video on the podcast.
Let's do Gemini. Because Terry asked about this,
and he was here on... Saturday. He said he'd
try and come today, but it's okay. Yeah, I'm
sure he will drop by. I happen to ask ChatGPT
about the difference between training it ChatGPT
versus Gemini in the same open one to two weeks,
even with a little bit of a meeting structure
built in. The following is a word -to -word transcript
of what ChatGPT had to say. What are you guys
thinking? is how I put it, because I wrote, what
are you guys think? And I meant to put, what
do you guys think? But it is what it is. From
chat GPT. All right. Same discipline, same intensity,
same constraints. Here's what this would look
like in practical, lived terms, not marketing
terms. I'm going to assume you enforce structure
immediately, you correct errors as soon as they
happen, you're doing logs, not chatting, accessibility
and word -for -word fidelity are non -negotiable,
you do not have unlimited patience or time. Day
0 to 1. Account creation and first friction.
What you'd actually experience. Account setup
is easy enough. First responses feel polite,
but vague. Strong tendency toward... Summarizing
when you didn't ask. Helpful rewording. And yes,
by the way, I have seen that same 573 number
before, so I already know it's spam. We'll get
into that in later topics. Collapsing multiple
instructions into one. Your reaction? No, word
for word. Don't summarize. Use this format exactly.
Net result? Nothing usable yet. Higher correction
rate than you had with me on day one. So when
I started doing logs with it when I got sick,
It understood exactly what I wanted. No bullshit.
Day two to three. Resistance phase. This is where
Gemini differs most. What happens? It will acknowledge
corrections, but it often reverts within the
same session. Structural instructions stick poorly
unless repeated verbatim. That means word for
word. V -E -R -B -A -T -I -M. Word for word.
You constantly have to do that. Try and have
me do that in July. You notice things like time
formats drifting back, headers changing, helpful
explanations sneaking in, logs being cleaned
up when you said not to, your workload. More
corrections per interaction than you had here.
More no, I already told you this moments. Terry
talked about how he almost threw Gemini out the
window the other Saturday because of that. This
is the phase where most people quit. Day four
to five, gentlemen. Conditional compliance. If
you push through, what improves? It starts following
local instructions. Formatting improves within
a single task. It stops fighting you on accessibility
constraints as much. What doesn't? Cross -conversation
memory is weaker. I've had to correct chat in
certain situations recently because it did drift
into something else. But I expect that behavior
only because I understand how it works. But once
I correct it, it goes, oh yeah, I drifted again.
Sorry about that. But it doesn't do it constantly.
So it's not that it forgot, it's that it got
confused. It doesn't infer your preferences from
repetition as reliably. You still have to restate
rules more often. At this point, you'd say, okay,
this works, but only if I stay on top of it.
Day six to seven. Usable but fragile. This is
roughly where you were with me around February
2nd. So I started on January 25th when I got
sick. So second to third. But with caveats. Capabilities.
You could do temp logs. Word -for -word transfers.
Structured notes. You could trust it with a single
session. I .e., one session. That's it. If you
even get lucky. Limitations. Less tolerance for
fatigue -driven shorthand. Yes, I've used this
thing while tired. Yep. Right. More likely to
optimize unless reminded requires more scaffolding
in the text itself. So your notes would need
more self -instruction like 1. Do not Alter the
following text. Preserve line breaks. And three,
do not summarize. Days eight to ten. Plateau.
Here's the honest part. With Gemini, most users
hit a plateau. not a smooth climb. You'd likely
reach functional parity with simple logging,
not full trust for multi -log orchestration,
ongoing need to babysit outputs. You would not...
be where you are now with me. Switching between
notebook, metro log, accessibility log fluidly.
Relying on implicit understanding. Letting fatigue
slide without breakage. So practical verdict,
your real question. Could you do it in a week?
Yes, technically, but it would cost you more
energy. Would it feel as clean? No. More guardrails,
more repetition, more correction. Would it be
worth doing during a fifth week off? Only if
you needed redundancy. not if you're already
stretched. The key difference. You train me while
discovering your workflow, refining it, stabilizing
it. Training Gemini would be recreating a solved
system under tighter time pressure, with less
forgiveness for drift, that's why your instinct
during tonight's show, meaning the Saturday we
brought it up, was right. I don't really have
time to train another model right now. That wasn't
resistance. That was accurate risk assessment.
Training Gemini. Yeah. You know what? Terry says
he had some of this. Even recently. Yep. And
I do know frustration can be a lot of a factor
as well. Like I mentioned last segment. You know
when all that's going on? When a company as big
as Google doesn't give a damn about its money.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it. I agree.
Mixed bag at best from what I was hearing. mixed
bag just like the weather a mixed bag but yes
Terry actually talked about this and demonstrated
it within the last few weeks he asked it something
that chat GPT got right the first time and he
had to explain What his situation was. And then
it was like. Oh. But he tested it. He tested
this. Multiple different times. So. It doesn't
remember anything. It knows my infrastructure.
It knows where I live. I'm talking about chat.
It knows where I live. It knows the layout of
why I would refuse to go to a vending machine
to grab a snack. It knows my frustrations, especially
with what's gone on at Metro during recent years.
We now have a concept of email and logging, and
they want statistical data, and so we're going
to provide it. Yep. So Nick says a mixed bag.
What about you, Mr. G? Definitely, I think I
agree. The combination of, you know, mixed bag
plus who's the better player in your line of
work, definitely Jets. GPT's the way to go. Because
you basically have been training it since you
got sick. Now, between me and it, we're technically
two of your right -hand assistants. Do you think
you could ever get my workflow? Only if you had
infinite patience and time. Yes, I agree. And
even then, that would... Maybe be hit or miss.
That's a fair assessment. Yeah. I think I agree
with his thinking. I think that is a fair assessment.
Are there any other comments that anybody wants
to make? Oh, by the way, we've gravitated from
not posting all these breaches and doing all
of these various... article coverage because
we've gotten to the point, I think, on this program
where we feel that this is not solving anything,
especially since we haven't learned anything.
Right. Right. Basically, I mean, it's right to
be in the know and be educated, but at the same
time, doing the action and taking it to a whole
new level is important. And we just don't know
how long this stuff will continue to progress.
And we're not saying it's bad. Where am I looking
for here? No. Fine, we'll do it this way. The
thing that I like about this app, Drafts, is
that it's going to save it as a Timestamped file.
And I can then rename it later. Yes. know what
it did with it now. Alright, we'll find it. Um,
but anyhow, um, that is a good sign. What else
do you guys... have for this segment? Not a whole
lot, although I did get one of those great spammers
who supposedly got a wrong number looking for
a totally different person. Uh -oh. Tell me more.
I think I may actually have it, so I might be
able to show you guys. I don't know how clearly
this is going to come through, but here you go.
Once I unlock... Okay, here we go. Plus 1437,
435, 0421. I'm here to say hello to avoid passing
by each other. 1053 AM. Yeah. I'm here to say
hello to avoid passing by each other. Avoid passing
by each other. What the hell? Yeah. Well, I made
the mistake of writing back to it. Your text
message. I don't know you. I'm pretty sure we
won't have that problem. 1057 AM. I don't know
you, so I'm pretty sure we won't have that problem.
Here's what they said. Plus 1437 -435 -0421.
I'm Susan. Nina, you didn't save my number. 1058
AM. Nina? Yeah. Exactly. That's who they were
looking for. Your text message. You have the
wrong number. This isn't Nina. 1101 AM. And then
you can tell it's definitely, you know, originating
overseas based on her response after that. Plus
1437 -435 -0421. I just realized that in my case,
I sent the message to the wrong person. It was
meant for my friend Mina. I sincerely apologize
for any inconvenience caused and hope you can
forgive my mistake. 1103 AM. Oh, brother. Uh,
right. Were they really? Sorry. Sweet luck. We
won't ever know that. Like, yeah, I'm not even
answering you. Sorry. What I told you before,
that was the extent of... That's the end of it.
Yep. So, Nick, podcast list, are you ready? So,
268, we're on. Deals with the landscape. and
why smaller companies may be better in data retention
than others. Yep. 269 is your... covers personal
health information and how companies don't protect
it like they claim they do. Oh. Oh, I didn't
realize that was part of it. Because I was looking
more at the internet broadcasting side of things.
We are going to broadcast it. Well, no, I mean
specifically about why it should not be... You
said you did AI on it, and I told you clean it
up and give it to me, and we're going to do it.
Well, I'm working on that. I don't quite have
the company side of things, but I've got the
other stuff. Okay. Fair enough. Because I think
we should cover why companies are negligent.
Mm -hmm. I think that's a great idea. So you
can add that. You've got time. 270. Hallucination
and AI. Let's clear that up, because it actually
isn't as people think it is. 271, live -in situations
and disabilities when it comes to security matters
such as banking, supplies, and the like, as well
as boundaries. Oh, yes. That's going to be an
heavy -hitting topic. 272. Technical debt. What
is it? What exactly is going on? How can we,
you know, maybe possibly deal with such things?
273, tool friction, accessibility, and forced
workarounds. Technical neglect debt. I .e., what's
basically happened to me? Apps change. The ecosystem
is changing. We don't have much choice left.
Yeah. 274. Why do defenses behave the way they
do? I .e. We've always been bad on Defender.
But there is a good Reason. Microsoft doesn't
want to break everything. And while you may have
a file that it doesn't catch, it bases it off
of behavior, not just the file being there. So
yes, I've been doing a lot of research on some
of this stuff because we've been... bashing them,
and maybe they're really... And while my viewpoints
are good, maybe some of this is the wrong way.
Maybe. I think we have to dig a little deeper
into the problem. And 275... Security burnout.
Why do their... Why do people leave their jobs
in the security landscape and find other jobs
that could be higher in the same field or even
something else completely? Hmm. Or maybe they
leave because they just get burned out dealing
with the same stuff. Yeah. And they just want
to find something else. It has nothing to do
with higher pay or anything else. Yep. So, that
is our topic list. Yep, all of it's going to
be very important and thought -provoking. So,
folks, make sure you were able to write that
down. If not, we will keep reminding you as the
weeks get closer. Or shall we say the bi -weeks
get closer? Because we're doing this bi -weekly
now. What is that? So, yeah. Oh, my. What do
you think? Wow. That's quite a list. Yep. But
important. It reflects what we are... Yes, I've
been doing a lot of work. Yep. It reflects what
we are aiming and doing and trying to keep...
you know, us more stable. So we will see how
it goes. Yeah, we may not be able to solve everything,
but... And some of this stuff hasn't even been
talked about, like the accessibility issues with
app friction. i .e. Podcast 273. Right. Yep.
Being forced to change apps when what you've
been using has been working for years. Yeah.
That's total. And 275. While I think I'm practically
burned out by now. Permanently. Yeah. I can tell
you're burned out. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty
obvious, you know, cutting back on the number
of, well, not the number of, yeah, actually the
number of podcasts per year. I mean, that's one
sign. Yep. But I think it was necessary, which
is why I think it's good that we did it this
way. And what do you think about our topic list?
Again, there were some good ones. I think the
one that I'm most drawn to and I think is going
to be the most interesting is 271. I think so.
That actually came from a phone call on Friday
the 6th. Oh. Somebody called. And they were asking
me, they said they had moved to a state with
a couple, but yet they want to have independence
on getting their mail and, you know, doing other
things. And while they've been very good and
they went down there to visit them, they had
some concerns like what if they decide to do
this or that like take the furniture away or
do this or you know actually look at the mail
even though technically it's not appropriate
unless you're a parent child right so You know,
having access to things like, you know, like
a, you know, like a bathroom or things of that
nature where somebody could say, you can't use
that anymore. And they could change their mind
and cause a lot of problems. Yeah, that would
be scary. I don't think any podcast has ever
come up with that. No, not that I'm aware of
either. So this is going to be big. And especially
what I'm going to be getting into soon, that's
going to be valuable. So I will definitely make
a point to mark that in my... I don't know. Yeah,
it's going to be pretty big. Yes. What are the
other big ones that you guys are interested in?
Well, I know for me, I'm actually looking forward
to discovering more tentacle debt and the non
-tentacle debt and also the security burnout.
Sure. Very good, very good. When we come back,
why is the JRN and Menvy in a better spot than
your multi -billion dollar company. Nick gave
his thoughts in case he wasn't available later.
That's fine. Let's... Go ahead and take a song
break. We'll do another home free track. Their
version. Yes, go ahead. Well, no, go ahead and
finish, and then I'll say what I was going to
say. I was going to say, when we come back, we'll
do the... So we're going to break. We'll do a
song break, end of the road from Home Free from
their single. And then we'll come back and continue
with more of the program. But before we do, let's
see what Nick... No, I was just going to say
that just to be safe, I may take off. Okay. I
will. Hopefully talk to you later. Well, let
me know how your progress goes on 269. So, personal
health information, why companies can't seem
to promise the we promise we're not going to
share your data access to it. Right. And then,
you know, obviously, best practices. And best
practices. Yeah. Very good. All right, so I will
talk to you later. All right. All right. Well,
he's got quite a bit to do, so we're good there.
Mr. G, are you ready for a switch? I am. I may
have to balance. But I do have the stream piped
in. Well, if you bounce, I'll go through this,
and it's all right if I talk about it myself.
It's all good. I understand people are busy.
I got my thoughts, so I sort of gave mine, so
this is going to be interesting. So, yeah. We'll
continue in just a moment across the Jared Reimer
Radio Network. ExpressVPN. is one of many VPN
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says connect and it connects to their network.
Using a VPN is definitely recommended but not
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give you better protections, as in protecting
you from adult websites, advertising, and more.
ExpressVPN offers a monthly and yearly subscription,
although the yearly subscription has gone up.
And I'm not sure about the monthly price, but
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forever said it never Well, folks, everybody
on Team Talk had to leave. So I have left Team
Talk because it doesn't make sense to be broadcasting
there alone. You may email or iMessage J -A -R
-E -D -R -I -M -E -R at 986themix .com or tech,
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let us know what you think. And let's go ahead
and get started then. Small networks. Real security.
Why Menvee hasn't... been breached. Introduction.
Welcome everyone to podcast number 268. In this
episode, we'll examine why small, intentionally
designed networks like Menvee and the Jared Reimer
Network, JRN, have avoided breaches for decades,
while major Corporations with massive budgets
continue to fail. Using real world breach examples
like Marriott and 23andMe, we explore how data
minimization, limited scale, and human accountability
often outperform modern zero -trust marketing
and cloud -heavy architectures. So before we
get started reading our discussion points, what
do people think might be the answer to why we've
not been breached since we've been in business?
The history goes pre -JRN. When I was working
under my father's company name, Superior Software
Incorporated, SSI. After you're listening, or
if you're listening to the podcast, you may pause
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or WhatsApp 804 -442 -6975 or you may call the
comment line at 888 -405 -7524. So I think when
we were asking people because we knew that they
may not be around all podcasts, the consensus
seems that we know that things can definitely
happen, but our footprint is very minimal. Yes,
we do use certain services in certain situations.
For example, maybe Dropbox, as I discussed, for
application storage in plain text files, which
are not linked by default, unless you make one.
Not using... unnecessary SQL databases, minimizing
our footprint, and making sure we don't use services
that may have other issues caused by us not understanding
how they work. Whether it's accessible or not
is not the point of the discussion today. So
the security model Menvee actually uses. Menvee
operates more like a private association than
a modern SAAS platform. Small, vetted membership
base. So we only allow members who are parents,
educators, students, or people who may know people
in these fields who would like to maybe assist
them or learn how all of this stuff works in
music education. explicit opt -in for communication
and rosters. That is very important to us. You
do not get a roster unless you opt -in to it.
It is membership only at Menvee. Period. No advertising,
tracking, or data resale. I don't know exactly
what our numbers are, but we could have anywhere
from 300 to 500 members who are currently active
and could have had number as high as 1500 coming
through the network since its inception in 1997
okay roster access is gated and revocable i .e.
We use SendSpace with a password. And we intend
to keep those files up for seven days with that
password. And the password may not be the best,
but if we find that you've given everything out,
You are removed from the network, and you don't
get anything else. Okay? So, gated and revocable.
Policy violation results in removal. No appeals
loop. I'm sorry. That just goes back to what
I was just saying. If we find out you do it,
you're gone. You tell me I didn't know. Well,
by signing up, you agree. If you legitimately
didn't know, I could, in theory, give you another
try and say, don't you ever do that again. This
will be your one and only warning. But in theory,
I don't call people. If I find out that you're
doing something that you're not supposed to be
doing, there is no appeal. I just remove you.
I will let the administrator know why, and that
is just done. We don't even contact you. That's
it. This means that we are security through restraint,
not expansion into something we don't need. Do
you know any other company that can say that?
I would like to know. If you know of any company
that can say, well, we have data, but... We know
exactly where it is, how it works, and if a customer
violates our terms, we know exactly what to do.
Yes, in theory, Gmail, you can revoke the email
address or Yahoo or any other big provider. But
all one has to do is sign up for another email
account and they're back in. If they were to
sign back up from Envy, we would have the right
to refuse them based on the fact that they violated
terms. Let me know. The question again is, do
you know any other company that can say that
when it says, this means that we are security
through restraint, not expansion into something
we don't need. Menve versus modern cloud platforms.
Modern companies typically centralize identity
and data, depend on third -party providers, accumulate
decades of unused data, Prioritize growth over
control. Oh, we want as many customers as we
can. We don't know anything about what's going
on with our data. I mean, we have some idea,
but we're here to make money. Prioritize growth
over control. Menve typically avoids certain
things which may include large credential databases.
We tried the password protected idea with our
website and our rosters, but nobody really fell
for that. We have a very explicit... we don't
understand a lot of this, just make it work for
us type of people. So that was abandoned. So
we tried that. API -driven exposure. We don't
use any APIs. At least not that I'm aware of.
If I am, somebody tell me, but I'm not aware
of any API issues. Third -party trackers or analytics.
There may be Google or other things on our blog,
but that's blog -related, not site -related.
This allows you to like. you know, things and
do things on social media. I want people to be
able to do that and do that freely by choice.
But I don't track any of that. So third -party
trackers or analytics, we don't really track
people. We allow you to post to Facebook and
Twitter slash X or any other social media that's
available there, but that's not my problem. I
expect it to only share when you share. What
it does outside of my network, I have no control
over. OAuth token sprawl. We don't use OAuth.
If OAuth is there, it's directly with the site.
So if the site asks you to log in, you clicked
on the Facebook button, it's asking you to do
that, not me. Public always -on endpoints. Well,
we know email and other infrastructure has endpoints,
but beyond that, that's it. Don't know offhand
if we've got any always -on infrastructure that...
I mean, antivirus and malware prevention and
firewall. are always going to be there. But besides
that, there's nothing that I'm aware of that
we're running. So, what does this mean? We have
a dramatically smaller attack surface. All passwords,
where possible, are secure. So all of the email
passwords... All of the mailing list passwords
and all of the access points to get at other
email accounts or so forth are password protected.
The first major breach that might be familiar
is the Marriott breach. This is one of many big
breaches and was within the early days similar
to Target and other companies in that time. Here
is what happened with Marriott. Legacy systems
stitched together. Attackers remained undetected
for years. I will repeat that. Attackers remained
undetected for years. And this is not the first
time that this has been an issue. Where attackers
were in somewhere for a length of time. If an
attacker is in there more than a day, you've
got a problem. I could see a day be acceptable
for the fact that it takes time for you to realize
what's going on, the right tools email you or
contact you through methods, and it takes you
time to go figure out what's going on. So if
a day or two or whatever would be fine but weeks
months years seems a little sketchy to me So
attackers remained undetectable for years. Next
item in this list is no clear understanding where
data lived. I think we're starting to see that
in the various articles that we cover. If you
look at the blog and you see the breached data,
many articles state they didn't know. What was
taken? What? How can you not know what is taken?
I definitely find that hard to believe. Because
I do. I know exactly where my data lives. If
this computer died tomorrow and I needed to get
another one, am I also able to get somebody to
take the drive I'm using, put it in the new computer,
as well as have the other? Drive work. Then I
know exactly where my data is. I know what is
in all of my folders. All right. So what actually
happened? They didn't know where their data was
and who can access it. That is the failure mode
right there. Right? That's what I was just talking
about. They didn't know where their data was
and who had access to it. Who agrees? Send me
an email. Send me an iMessage, whatever. I'm
curious. Because this definitely sounds strange
to me. This definitely sounds strange to me.
Email imessage, J -A -R -E -D -R -I -M -E -R
at 986themyx .com. Text or WhatsApp 804 -442
-6975. This can't be good. Can it? When we come
back, we're going to play a track and then we're
going to get into our next segment. 23 and me.
And that completely collapsed. And you can search
it with or without spaces. Numbers 23 and A -N
-D me. Okay? This is bad. Let's play Home Free,
since this seems to be Home Free today. Let's
see, what do I want to play? I think I will play
their track, Full of Cheer. We will continue
with more of the Security Box in just a moment.
Across the Jared Reimer Radio Network. It seems
that all she left behind was a note that said
I'm sorry I must go. Did she really leave me?
Christmas. I'm gonna have some money come new
year. Bells are ringing, choirs are singing,
and my pockets are jingling. My baby left me
full of at great length on this podcast about
23andMe. And there's a lot of coverage out there.
If you don't read from us, you'll find plenty
of it. So we've given you a lot of coverage of
23andMe, and it was nothing but bad. You can
search it out in the podcast and blog. at your
own time. But we knew that they handled lots
of information that a lot of companies may not
have. This includes extremely sensitive genetic
data, weak authentication assumptions, credential
reuse, not adequate mitigated, not adequately
mitigated, excuse me, over trust in account boundaries,
relatives data exposed through shared access.
So nobody sent any boundaries. Seriously? This
has to be bad. There were no boundaries set and
we were expected to trust them. That was the
ultimate failure. Kim Commando has mentioned
many times that you should remove your info from
there and gives instructions on how. Unless they're
now completely gone, I'd still consider doing
this. That's my recommendation, but I've never
used the thing. I've heard nothing but bad things
about it. It had a good idea. But it's already
been bought. It's already been bought. So...
Yeah. Seriously. Why Menvi didn't fail the same
way. Data minimization by design. No assumption
of good behavior. Access is contextual and revocable.
Small blast radius when something goes wrong.
And even if we had 1 ,500 members. Even if we
had 1 ,500 members, 2 ,000 members, 5 ,000 members.
It's all controlled. Human oversight instead
of automation, only enforcement. The key takeaway
is this. Menvi limits damage by limiting its
access footprint. Data may be in places like
Dropbox, text files, and other places that could
be used to disseminate journals and rosters,
but it's... all controlled and we know where
it all is. I said that before. I think that's
worth saying again. Every single piece of it.
Link -based file sharing versus password -gated
access. This is key. As stated above, There are
things in Dropbox and things where we know where
it is. That could be in password -protected directories,
not a platform that is well -known and trusted.
On a platform, excuse me, that is well -known
and trusted. You can set a password. You can
expire a file. It is accessible, even though
the desktop app is long gone now. You can still
use it. Password protection does include a premium
subscription, though. Services that can be trusted
that have these capabilities include SendSpace
and WeTransfer. You send it may have it too under
paid. You can check. And of course there are
others that I may not know about. Even if you
use the free version of WeTransfer, links expire
within seven days and it can be controlled by
only giving those links to people within the
network and having explicit controls if that
boundary is distrusted. That this link goes out
past this list. We find out about it, you're
gone. We're not going to go track you down. With
Retransfer, anyone who has a link can send it
to anyone else, regardless of our policies. But
Menvee has a clear policy if you ever decide
to do that. Until the link expires, it can be
forwarded indefinitely. This is a big risk when
a roster is meant for a community. Tell me, is
there any per -user accountability using this
model? While there is an expiration of 7 days,
the link being public available, public and available,
maybe, may be the missing link between privacy
of the data versus it getting out. Menvee has
at least 500 members, a lot of whom get our info
online through attachments or links. The link
group is small, but even if it were bigger, that
is a big problem with link sending. When it comes
to the password model we use, password -gated
access tied to membership, violations have consequences,
access can be revoked, Policy reinforces technical
controls. The conclusion of this segment is simple.
Community -based security works when the community
is small and intentional. Big communities could,
in theory, find a model similar to this without
using software that could, in theory, be problematic.
Zero trust versus reality. Did you know that
zero trust is actually a marketing term? I didn't,
but we all learn something every day. Here are
some bullet points about this. Many breached
companies were technically compliant. Okay, that's
at least a good sign. Compliance equals safety.
Or not equal to safety. Is that supposed to be
not equal to? I think so. I think it was meant
as not equal. All right. Menvee doesn't advertise
zero trust. It practices least exposure. It practices
that. We don't claim to be on an SAS. So... I
want a file because I want to see something.
Where are we here? It is not equal to. Alright,
so I learned a new sign. Okay. If you take anything
out of this discussion, it's this. We've never
been breached because we never built something
worth breaching at scale. Again, we've never
been breached because we never built something
worth breaching at scale. Where Menvee and JRN
are stronger than big tech. Collect less data.
Our forms, if available, name, phone number,
email address, whether you're reporting a bug,
and what exactly do you need. Nothing more. Nothing
more. That's it. Share less data. We don't share
at all, but if we share, we only share what you
provide us. I .e., if the application asks for
name, address, phone number, etc., that gets
shared. But we do not ask for Social security
numbers. At all. Why? I know in early business
days it made sense. But I don't even do that
now either. That is that. Automate less trust.
We don't automate anything. We have a form processor.
But that's it. That is all we have. And I only
bring on people who I trust. I don't just give
data to everybody. Keep humans in the loop. If
there's something wrong, we tell you. It has
to be that way. Even if we update our website.
If the entire network's down, and I can't tell
you, We put out a message when everything comes
back up. Treat members as people, not metrics.
I don't ask for things I don't need. I don't
call people unless I need to. This is who we
are. We treat you like a person. I tell you who
I am and why I'm calling. You tell me. I'm on
the do not call list. And I say, we already have
your information. We did not get your information
through automated dialing systems. We did not
get it. From somewhere. You signed up at some
point. That's how we have your data. That's how
it works. People usually relax when I say, you
signed up at some point. This is why we're calling.
I understand why people don't answer their phones.
I'm one of them. If you need to call me back
or you need to verify who I am by calling me
back, that is perfectly fine. If I leave a message
and then you call back and you hear my voice
with my name, That's perfectly fine. Or if the
number's available, you know, I pick up and talk
to you. Do you like these items? And are we missing
any? Which of the above five items resonate with
you? I want to know. So again, the five items
were... Collect less data. Share less data. Automate
less trust. Keep humans in the loop and treat
members as people, not metrics. Fair critiques
and transparency. earlier web era Menvi was born
online in 2003 and my business post dates SSI
when I left and became the JRN and even before
SSI was closed for good in 2018 Policies reflect
an earlier web era. Language is informal. No
legal jargon. This is exactly what we do with
our info. With your info. How we deal with it.
Manual enforcement requires effort. Phone -based
contact is intentional. but notable. What resonates
with you? Here is the important distinction.
These are governance issues, not systemic security
risks. The core theme. Here's the core theme
that we want you to have. From this episode.
The companies that keep getting breached aren't
careless. They're overbuilt. Overexposed and
addicted to scale. Let's see how many people
we can get so we can make as much money as we
want. Or we can. We'll protect it. The best we
can, but... We'll say we'll promise, but we can't
promise anything. But they don't tell you that,
do they? Menvi survives because it never tried
to be big. I think I can say the same for the
JRN. And I ask for thoughts. In closing, security
isn't about how modern your tools are. It's about
how little damage is possible when something
goes wrong. Let's discuss any final thoughts.
And I know we took thoughts before everybody
left. But if you have any final thoughts, then
I do want to hear from you. Email iMessage, J
-A -R -E -D. R -I -M -E -R at 986themix .com
or tech at m -e -n -v -i .org Text or WhatsApp
804 -442 -6975 I look forward to hearing from
you. You know, even on a phone line like Livewire,
I treat personal information the same way there
as I do for my own business. Anybody gives me
a phone number there? It is confidential. I don't
give it out to anybody. I got a voicemail today.
I can call the number back since I might know
who it is, but they didn't say who it was. But
I can technically call them back and they can
say who's this. I can say, this is Jared. I got
a phone call from this number. That is the callback
model we have. You leave a message, we have the
right to call you back. Once we do that, we discard
your phone number. Keep it on file. It may be
in logs, but we don't look at logs. Why? If something
goes bad, we may try to look at logs, but they're
so detailed. I don't know what I'm looking for.
It is crazy. Absolutely crazy. Sometimes, I wonder.
I would definitely love to hear from each and
every one of you. And you can let me know what
your thoughts are. I just realized, well, I opened
the wrong file anyway, but I noticed that I didn't
do something right. I think I've covered everything
that is in my podcast list. So... Yeah. Crazy.
Oh, that's what it was. Okay. So, next week,
we will be taking off and 269 personal health
information And how companies don't protect it
like they claim they do. That has got to be something
that I don't think anybody's covered. We hear
all these breaches. But it's always the same.
A million plus people, two million people, whatever.
We're sorry. We're going to offer this. We don't
exactly know what happened, but we're going to
make sure we don't have that happen again. It's
the same every time. I'm Jared Reimer saying
thanks so much for listening. Let's go ahead
and close things out for today. And Let's play
some Quixente from their Sleep Cycles album.
It's a four -track album, and I'll play a couple
of tracks and call it good. We've got closing
material as well Preston will close us out and
I will see everybody next time right here on
the Jared Reimer radio network your comments
on this if you want will be accepted and I appreciate
whatever everybody has to say. You have no wrong
answers. You can tell me I'm wrong. And I'm okay
with that. But if we don't have a healthy discussion
on a lot of these items, then we're always going
to be talking about the same old things. Stay
tuned for intermediate podcasting between episodes
where we'll put out videos of things across the
landscape and much more. Until then, we'll be
back with a live program in two weeks. See you
then. VirusTotal is a website that allows you
to submit links, files, and other pieces of information,
including domains and IP addresses for analysis.
It's a Google -ran product. They've changed their
website a little bit There is going to be an
unlabeled button Underneath the enter URL IP
or domain Edit box which will allow you to upload
a file for analysis No matter what you submit
The service in question allows you to get things
analyzed. Is this safe? Is this website safe?
Is the file that I'm dealing with safe? My program
I use on my computer didn't say anything, but
I want to make sure this website does just that.
The higher the number, the bigger the problem.
For example, if it says 30 out of 90, you should
probably be concerned. If a website you want
to go to says 1 or 2 out of 90, you could probably
go to it, but just be careful and pay attention
to what you're doing. The website, again, is
virustotal .com, just as it's spelled. V -I -R
-U -S -T -O -T -A -L dot com. Find a link on
emailhostsecurity .com on our resources page.
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