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So quick recap. Last time I talked about the

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concept of a high value man and how it plays

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on some underdeveloped sense of self that you

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leave your true self behind and instead put on

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whatever mask you need in order to fit the society

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or whoever else it is from which you're seeking

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some sort of affirmation. That alone is a big

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step. If you've done that, now we can have the

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real talk about what it looks like. like to be

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a man okay um at least how i laid it out to the

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implication i think is fairly straightforward

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being a man is being of real value not perceived

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to be a value and it's not being about better

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or worse than anybody but rather focusing on

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your own kind of demands of yourself your vision

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for yourself The focus here is just overall inward,

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right? Into self -perception, into self -worth,

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into self -appraisal. The hardest part of starting

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this journey, though, is that it honestly sucks

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to look inward. It's hard, like really, really

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hard. And it's hard primarily because it's hard

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as hell to look at ourselves honestly. Sometimes

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just physically through an actual mirror, that's

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already hard sometimes. but also emotionally

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through a mirror to our souls or something like

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that. If you were lucky enough to have people

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in your life that were supportive of you and

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give you space to be yourself and embrace and

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love you as you are and walked through life together

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with you to help you work on your flaws or weaknesses

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and also encourage you. you know, and pointed

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out all the great things that you are, then you'll

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probably have an easier time doing this. But

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if you're like me, this shit's going to be hard.

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It's just going to be hard yet. Even here, like

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so soon that you had all these wonderful things

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going for you, where maybe you've already done

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some sort of self reflection. Even here, though,

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I think it helps to get professional help. I'm

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talking about therapists. If you don't have one,

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go get you one, a good one. It's hard to find

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a good therapist. And essentially, well, it's

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especially hard if you want to open up to a male

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therapist since there's a real shortage in those.

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But you need somebody to talk to, somebody to

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explore with you how you genuinely feel and think,

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to be open, to take risks without feeling like

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you might be shamed or shunned. from a community

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right look it's hard being vulnerable as it is

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but when you're doing it with friends family

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or in the public arena there's genuine risk involved

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right like real risk and there's i think a good

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reason that people don't want to open up to just

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anybody right apart from reacting negatively

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to what you say may be just as bad as if they

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react in an unhelpful way, right? So for example,

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suppose I wanted to talk to a friend about feeling

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severely depressed, so much so that I have trouble

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getting out of bed in the morning, I never get

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anything done, I'm wasting away, and I smell

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terrible because I don't shower. I'm sure they

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try to cheer me up. Maybe one of them would offer

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some advice like, hey, workout, exercise will

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make you feel better, or maybe they'll try to

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take my mind off of it by switching topics to

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something else. Or suggest we do something together,

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something that I used to find fun, like maybe

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bowling, because they know that I love bowling.

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I can see that they care, but if you've ever

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been somebody who's depressed and in this sort

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of really deep depressive state, their response

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is not helpful in the least bit, at least these

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kinds of responses. And definitely not how a

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quality therapist would, I think, respond. And

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that makes sense. Your friends aren't trained

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for this kind of talk. They mean well, they care,

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and that's also part of what makes it all the

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more worse. I can see that they're trying, and

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because they care, I feel like, oh man, I feel

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even worse that I don't feel better, and everything

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that they're saying is actually making me feel

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worse. It makes me feel unseen, I feel more alone,

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I feel just like they don't get it, right? So

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to help me explore what I feel, to help me better

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understand it, Where it comes from, I need to

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have a different kind of discussion that I think

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the professionals are kind of best equipped for.

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Now, I want to be clear. Yes, I am supporting

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getting a therapist, but no, this is not my primary

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point. I'm not here just advocating for getting

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a therapist. Getting professional help is one

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way, one of many, in our learning to be comfortable

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and looking at ourselves honestly. Because at

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the end of the day, that's really the goal. However

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which way you get there, there's a lot of different

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ways of getting there. There's a lot of different

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things that will contribute to your being able

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to get there. Seeing a therapist is one. That's

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why I believe in the importance of seeing a therapist,

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just because I think there's some benefits that

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you don't get from, say, friends and family and

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community. But those are also necessary as well,

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right? So having a good social support network

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really helps you in better understanding yourself,

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like people who actually care and aren't going

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to be judging and shunning you, but rather trying

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to kind of help you unpack whatever it is that

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you're going through. So this is why I promote

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therapy, but again, it's not the only way. So

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you don't necessarily need one, but I think it

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is super duper helpful. In fact, I think usually

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when I hear people say like, I don't need a therapist,

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I usually respond with only people who think

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that they don't need a therapist needs a therapist,

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right? Because I think once you've done enough

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of like looking inward, you realize both just

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how difficult it is and just the ways in which

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I think everyday people are may or may not be

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helpful. But again, like, I don't know your circle

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of friends. I don't know if you have people around

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you who are just very, very good at it because

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they are emotionally mature themselves and have

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worked on themselves or because, you know, some

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people are just kind of inclined in this way,

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even from a very young age, have sort of a deep,

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you know, a lot of deep feelings and have good

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intuitions about how other people might be feeling

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and knowing how to connect with them, right?

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But the point is this. Everyone needs space to

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be honest with themselves. And you cannot mature

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until you find that space for yourself. Let me

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try to explain it with an analogy. I'm really

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going to try to drive home this point of just

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how important it is, but also some of the struggles

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that come with it. If you're trying to solve

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a math problem and you got the math problem wrong

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and you're trying to fix it, one of the most

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unhelpful things to do is to just dismiss it

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and say to yourself, I'll get it next time. I

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just had a brain fart this time. Made a dumb

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mistake. I work with students on learning all

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the time, and this is one of the comments I get

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from students sometimes when they realize that

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they messed up or made a mistake here or there.

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Now, it might be true that you just had a brain

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fart, but suppose you get similar types of problems

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wrong again and again and again. So now we're

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seeing that there's a clear pattern. This isn't

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just a one -off. It's not just a momentary brain

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fart. There's something that you're not getting

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or not doing that's leading to your making these

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mistakes fairly consistently. Maybe not always,

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but enough that we can notice that there's some

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kind of a pattern. But you won't be able to address

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the root of the problem unless you take a hard

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look at what you're doing, right? You need to...

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Figure out where it is that you're going off

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track because if you don't, you're not going

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to diagnose the problem correctly and you're

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not going to actually fix it, right? Life is

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full of these types of problems. Look, if I keep

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going into debt every month, I can tell myself

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that I just had a bad week or a bad month, made

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some bad decisions this time around, but next

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month I'm going to get it right, right? Again,

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yeah, it might be just a one -off. And if that's

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what the track record actually shows, if that's

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what reality actually shows, that's one thing.

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But if this is a regular occurrence and I'm constantly

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in the red, I'm like every month I'm going further

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and further into debt, right? Then there's something

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deeper going on with my spending habits, with

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my saving habits, habits with the way that I'm

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treating my finances, whether it is that or I'm

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not earning enough, right? Like if it's not...

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If I don't actually get to the root of the problem,

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I'm not going to actually fix the problem. I'm

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going to continuously go into debt. I could try

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to do all the patchwork stuff I want to do, but

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it won't make a difference because the root of

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it, the real source of the reason that I'm going

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into debt, is never addressed. What is the issue?

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What needs to be fixed? That's something for

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everyone to figure out for themselves. Everyone

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is going to be different. Everyone has a different

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life story. Everyone is wired differently. Everyone

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has a different temperament. I don't know you.

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I don't even know who any of my listeners are.

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I don't know any of you. You need to figure it

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out for yourself or to be able to find people

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who can help you figure out what it is that's

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actually going on. Similarly, if you want to

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grow up, if you want to mature, If you want to

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be a better version of yourself, the place to

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start is to figure out the root of what's leading

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to all the problems in your life. You can try

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to blame the world around you, and maybe from

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time to time, that is the problem. Maybe it's

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something that the world has done unto you. I'm

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not going to deny structural societal problems.

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I'm a big proponent of trying to address these

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sort of societal issues that are plaguing entire

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communities. Unfortunately, that's not something

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you can control. You can try to work to improve

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those things, but you're not like a dictator

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here that can suddenly, with a snap of a finger,

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fix all these problems. All you can do is you

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can control what's under your control, which

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is you. And that'll be the negative patterns,

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the negative cycles within your life. It's not

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something that others can address for you. Others

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can help you see what's going on, but it's something

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that only you can address because it's your life.

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And you won't be able to do it unless you are

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willing, and this is the hard part, unless you're

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willing to take a good hard look at yourself

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and identify the root cause of why it is that

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you're doing the kinds of things that you're

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doing that are harmful to you. It could be cognitively,

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emotionally, physically. What is it that you're

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doing that's contributing to your life going

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the way that, you know, you don't necessarily

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want it to, right? What is leading to you not

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learning lessons, right? It's going to be probably,

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my guess would be you're not addressing the root

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issue, okay? This is true of every aspect of

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yourself, right? From your physical health, to

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your education, to work success, to romantic

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life. So you look, all of it, okay? Let me give

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you some examples from my own life, right? Just

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to give you a sense of like what this might look

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like. For the longest time, I had a hard time

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being in a long -term relationship, maybe any

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relationship now that I think about it. I had

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a fairly healthy dating life, especially back

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in college and not too long after, but it didn't

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necessarily lead to anything meaningful, right?

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And I do remember that at the time, I would just

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say to myself things like, oh, that's just because

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I didn't really like them all that much, or maybe,

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you know, I'm just focused on other things right

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now, so I'm not... going to be too invested in

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this. Or maybe I might tell myself sometimes

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like, look, it just wasn't the right person.

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And when I find the right person, I'll know.

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All these were actually, for me anyways, I don't

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know about you, but for me, all these things

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that I was saying to myself, it was masking what

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was actually going on underneath, right? There

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was no relationship that developed because everything

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that I was doing in my dating life didn't allow

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for a real relationship to develop because a

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real relationship requires you to have some sort

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of more intimate connection with the person that

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you're with. And the problem was that I rarely,

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if ever, spent time trying to develop those connections,

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mainly because both I didn't know how and I was

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anxious about trying. So I didn't create that

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space for me to be able to gain something deeper

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than the initial attraction that I had with them.

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So I didn't bother to ask. to find out what made

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that person tick, to find out more about their

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past experience in life, how that informs what

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kind of person they are today, what kind of,

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you know, dreams they have and what they, you

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know, envision for their life, the ins and outs

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of their values, you know. Instead, I learned

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a bunch of shallow little things like their favorite

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place to shop or food to eat. I honestly spent

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most of my dating life just doing things like

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going to places, having new experiences together.

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And sure, those shared experience is nice and

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can spark some connection. It's not nothing.

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But I also wasn't learning anything about the

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person. And they weren't learning anything about

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me because I wasn't sharing any of it, right?

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Did I give us the space to have that kind of

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talk, right? It's not as if we had moments where

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we're like just sit down over dinner and just

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have really deep conversations. And it wasn't

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because like it was not possible at all, but

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there was something in me that was stopping me

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from going there, from having those conversations,

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whether it was my own anxiety or, you know, just

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me not having actually taken the time. to think

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through like what it might actually look like

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to develop a deeper connection with somebody,

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right? That's not even a thought that entered

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into my head. So I had a blind spot. I didn't

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even know that this is something I was doing

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in many cases, right? So there was a reason that

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my dating life would go for like two, three months

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at most and then fade away. And it wasn't an

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accident. Like it was by design. It was based

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at least in part by something that I was doing.

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It was something that I was doing. And that's

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what I'm pointing out. Look, if there's something

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in your life that is a consistent pattern, then

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it's probably, at least in part, having something

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to do with something you're doing. Nothing's

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going to change unless you do something different.

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So if we're talking about growing up, not being

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a bitch and growing up into a real man, then

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one of the things you're going to have to at

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least... develop at least a fundamental thing

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you're going to have to start doing quite regularly

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to get better at it is to take a moment to really

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slow down and process what it is that you're

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doing noticing patterns in your life and instead

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of being a bitch and running away from it taking

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the time to try to actually address what it is

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that's going on in your life now everyone has

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different issues everyone's struggling with something

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different everyone has different sort of patterns

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I don't know what it is for you, but my point

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is that we're going to have to take the time

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to go ahead and actually figure it out, right?

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To not run away from it, to actually be willing

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to address it, right? Here's another example.

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Whenever I was anxious or depressed, I would

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tell myself that it was a phase, a period that

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will come and go like any other feeling, right?

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I just need to ride out the wave, right? I think

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a lot of this actually, this way of thinking

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comes from my parents. I remember my parents,

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especially my dad, thought that I had like phases

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of being really angry and then really depressed.

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And he would always say that it was a phase,

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it'll go away. My mom often did this too. Like

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she would always like any, especially like when

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I was. sad or depressed or you know whatever

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it was she would try to distract me and get me

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to try to be happy right away um or if i was

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anxious she would just tell me that there's no

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reason to be anxious and to try to get me to

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feel differently right the goal was always like

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let's get you to move past this right let's not

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deal with it let's just try to get you to move

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past it right so That sort of way of thinking

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about things kind of creeped into my own life.

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And so the goal was always to get me to stop

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feeling the way I was feeling because it wasn't

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a good feeling, right? It doesn't feel good to

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be depressed. It doesn't feel good to be angry,

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right? It doesn't feel good to be anxious. These

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are not pleasant feelings, right? So in that

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way, I would try to cheer myself up when I was

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down. And when I was anxious, I tried not to

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think about it and distract myself. I was using

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the coping mechanisms, if you want to call it

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that, that I had learned from my parents. Of

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course, to some degree, these strategies worked,

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right? And that sometimes I might find some momentary

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relief. But that's the thing. Even though I had

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convinced myself that these feelings went away,

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it never really did because those feelings were

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never addressed. It found its way out in all

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sorts of other ways. And overeating, excessive

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drinking, being reckless with my spending, oversleeping,

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neglecting responsibilities, like, I can try

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to ignore my feelings as much as I want. Those

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feelings, however, do its own thing, right? They

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don't go away because I want them to. No, in

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fact, they find their way out in far more harmful

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and destructive ways. The point, again, is simple,

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right? Before you can actually fix whatever is

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ailing you, you need to take a hard look at yourself

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and be honest about what's going on, including

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your intentions, your values, your desires, your

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actions, your history, your mistakes, all of

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it. Without taking this first step, everything

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after is just worthless because whatever it is

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that you're doing, you're not actually addressing

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what needs to be addressed. So the reason I'm

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stressing this point of being honest with yourself

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so much is that if you're like me, you're probably

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the type to look quickly for a solution without

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really understanding the problem. Because I'll

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be honest, it's easier to give some half -assed

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diagnosis where you don't have to deal with your

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real feelings and then move on to just trying

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a bunch of shit to try to fix a problem. Diagnosing

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the problem in yourself is emotionally hard.

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So it's much easier to just jump straight into

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problem solving mode. But again, because you're

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not addressing the actual problem, you're going

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to keep facing the same issue again and again

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and again. It's like doing constant patchwork

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to stop all these tiny leaks when you need to

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first stop the giant source of the leak. But

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it's far less painful to focus on patching up

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these little leaks. than to address the giant

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elephant in the room, right? The big leak that

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is leading to everything else, right? I want

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you and I to never forget the importance of slowing

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down and first identifying the root of the problem.

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No matter how hard it is, you need to accept

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that there's no way to fix a problem without

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a proper diagnosis. I need for all of us to stop

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living in denial because that denial just means

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that you're not going to fix what's broken in

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you. And when we have broken men raising broken

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boys, what we end up with is just another generation

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of broken men. I personally want to stop this

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cycle, at least insofar as I could in my circle

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of family and my children, my child, I should

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say, and the children around me, right? That

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cycle won't stop unless we each do our part to

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start being honest with ourselves. All right?

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Okay. So far, I haven't really given you anything

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actionable other than go see a therapist. But

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look, I think there's a way that we can help

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each other be more honest with ourselves. Okay?

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So let me direct my attention to the men that

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already have the maturity to be honest with themselves.

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Please. I want you, if you aren't doing this

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already, to be open, to be vulnerable, and do

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it with a louder voice than other men in whatever

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platform you have. We just need more men to start

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being a lot more vulnerable. We need men to demonstrate

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what it might look like and to show that it's

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not the end of the world. It's not the scariest

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thing. It could be done. But at least creating

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that culture makes it a little bit more comfortable.

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Again, we learn from seeing what people do, not

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from what they say. And we need to see more men

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being vulnerable, men who are not defensive but

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can sit with the good and the bad and the ugly

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in them, and be able to show other men that it's

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okay to have some shortcomings, to be able to

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love your flawed self. There's a friend that

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I have that now lives in South Carolina, I think,

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actually I'm not completely sure now, now that

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I say it out loud, who I had gotten into contact

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with when I was lonely and depressed. And this

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was, I hadn't talked to him in like... you know

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years and then i got into contact just right

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around this time in my life when i was going

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through a really bad depressive episode um and

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he was very very open about his feelings he was

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kind of like always like this uh to a large degree

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i mean i thought i was fairly open but i realized

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now that i was probably just more impulsive and

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just blurted stuff out and i wouldn't necessarily

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call that open now um but i realized that i was

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actually hiding quite a bit of my true self from

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myself as well as from others right But he would

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tell me things that honestly made me feel super

00:22:45.940 --> 00:22:47.299
uncomfortable, right? He would say things like,

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I love you, right? Or he would call or text me

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just to check up on me. And I don't know if I

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actually told him directly, but I was super weirded

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out at first, right? It was like overwhelming

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for me. It was like too much, right? It was so

00:23:02.099 --> 00:23:04.000
much that I needed to take a break from it all.

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Sometimes I would just kind of like try to avoid

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or maybe like... Have like, you know, some distance.

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It's like, oh, man, that's just weird. I don't

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know how to feel about that, right? I hope he

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knows that all the care and openness that he's

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shown me, it wasn't for nothing, right? You know,

00:23:22.329 --> 00:23:24.430
there wasn't like some immediate impact, right?

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I think too often we think that fixes could be,

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fixes need to happen like right away. But sometimes

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that's not really how it works. And especially

00:23:32.670 --> 00:23:34.349
with something like this, right? I think his

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being that open with me. um just being so direct

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about how he feels and sharing himself with me

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right like sharing the things the struggles that

00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:47.000
he's going through with me right i didn't respond

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well but he had the courage to continuously share

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and to be open and i think there was something

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about that that allowed me to feel a lot more

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comfortable with realizing like hey this is not

00:24:00.220 --> 00:24:01.599
the end of the world i mean i'm a little bit

00:24:01.599 --> 00:24:05.400
weirded out But I also don't hate it, and I don't

00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:08.440
want to shame him for it, and I don't want to

00:24:08.440 --> 00:24:12.440
cut him off from my life for it. So I think one

00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:14.480
of the things that it helped to do, to be able

00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:17.160
to see somebody do this with me in real time,

00:24:17.299 --> 00:24:19.519
was that it started opening up the doors for

00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:22.359
me to be a lot more open when I'm going into

00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:24.519
a therapy session or when I'm with even my own

00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:28.079
friends. It made me want to believe that it was

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possible because I saw somebody who's able to

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do it just fine. And, you know, able to move

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through life just fine. Like, people don't hate

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him or anything. Like, they love him, right?

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Okay, so what did that really do for me? It gave

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me a blueprint. It gave me a blueprint for how

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I could be. It opened up a world of possibility

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because, you know, like, sometimes you hear people

00:24:48.930 --> 00:24:52.250
tell you do X, Y, and Z. I do this often. I tell

00:24:52.250 --> 00:24:54.569
people to do X, Y, and Z. But honestly, like,

00:24:54.670 --> 00:24:57.849
people don't operate like that. Being told what

00:24:57.849 --> 00:25:00.869
to do. being given advice or something like people

00:25:00.869 --> 00:25:02.250
don't follow it this is why self -help books

00:25:02.250 --> 00:25:04.230
usually don't work right you could say you could

00:25:04.230 --> 00:25:05.589
tell people all the things that they should be

00:25:05.589 --> 00:25:08.950
doing you might even be right but they need a

00:25:08.950 --> 00:25:11.650
reason to actually do it and one of the ways

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in which i found for myself and for the people

00:25:15.869 --> 00:25:19.789
i engage with like they find much more motivation

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in trying something or doing something when they

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see other people do it so If you are one of these

00:25:25.900 --> 00:25:28.400
guys, I'm sure that you're probably doing it

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already. But I also want to encourage you to

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keep doing it and do more of it. It's in part

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because I think once I've started becoming much

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more open, one of the things that I found is

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that I also kind of coil back and withdraw from

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the world to some degree. And that's in part

00:25:44.799 --> 00:25:50.059
because there isn't really... for me anyways,

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it's been hard to find a male community, a group

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of guys to hang out with where a large swath

00:25:57.039 --> 00:25:59.900
of them are open in this way. It's actually very,

00:25:59.940 --> 00:26:04.420
very hard. Once you become a dad, for some odd

00:26:04.420 --> 00:26:06.339
reason, it actually becomes a little bit harder.

00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:09.160
Why? Because you got all these other responsibilities

00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:11.619
and then so like you often tend to forget to

00:26:11.619 --> 00:26:14.440
prioritize yourself and to prioritize these kinds

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of relationships. As you age, you need to find

00:26:17.220 --> 00:26:18.880
new friends, right? That's the other thing that

00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:20.619
also happens, right? So once you become a dad,

00:26:20.740 --> 00:26:22.039
like this is like a common thing that a lot of

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dads talk to me about, right? That we'd share

00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:26.819
with each other, right? Which is you look for

00:26:26.819 --> 00:26:29.259
other dads as friends, right? Like that's the

00:26:29.259 --> 00:26:31.259
stage of life you're in. So a lot of your conversations

00:26:31.259 --> 00:26:33.420
become about, you know, parenthood, kids and

00:26:33.420 --> 00:26:36.809
all that, right? So... In these moments, it becomes

00:26:36.809 --> 00:26:39.990
very hard to actually be open because sometimes

00:26:39.990 --> 00:26:41.670
it might be because you're meeting new people,

00:26:41.789 --> 00:26:43.609
you're trying to feel them out, you want to see

00:26:43.609 --> 00:26:46.569
if it's okay. But as I said, it's always hard.

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Even the people who are good at this stuff, it's

00:26:48.750 --> 00:26:51.410
always hard because there's always a danger because

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you don't know how people are going to respond

00:26:52.750 --> 00:26:54.759
to you. You don't know if people are going to

00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:56.480
be accepting of you or if they're going to judge

00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:58.619
you or if they're going to talk down to you or

00:26:58.619 --> 00:27:01.259
it might have real tangible consequences, right?

00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:04.019
It might mean, you know, impact on your business,

00:27:04.059 --> 00:27:06.660
on your finances. It could be impact on your

00:27:06.660 --> 00:27:09.980
relationships, on, you know, relationships for

00:27:09.980 --> 00:27:12.740
your kids, right? If you have family, like, you

00:27:12.740 --> 00:27:14.920
know, it could sour relationships in other ways,

00:27:15.019 --> 00:27:18.210
right? So there's real risk. So I understand

00:27:18.210 --> 00:27:20.430
that it's really hard. So I think it's important

00:27:20.430 --> 00:27:22.130
to at least acknowledge that there are men who

00:27:22.130 --> 00:27:23.630
are able to do this, and I just want to encourage

00:27:23.630 --> 00:27:28.410
you to just keep on doing it. But I think even

00:27:28.410 --> 00:27:31.390
if you're not good at this, or maybe you feel

00:27:31.390 --> 00:27:34.210
like you're not great at this, I just want to

00:27:34.210 --> 00:27:36.369
encourage you to let you know that it's just

00:27:36.369 --> 00:27:39.250
a skill set like any other that anybody can learn.

00:27:39.630 --> 00:27:44.420
And I like to think of it kind of like... plumbing

00:27:44.420 --> 00:27:47.079
or housework you know like i became a house you

00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:49.859
know a homeowner not too long ago and you know

00:27:49.859 --> 00:27:54.599
since then i have uh you know it's not a nice

00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:56.859
home that i have purchased there's a lot of issues

00:27:56.859 --> 00:27:59.980
with it so as a result i have become very familiar

00:27:59.980 --> 00:28:03.039
with home depot and youtube videos on how to

00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:04.819
fix a bunch of random stuff because you know

00:28:04.819 --> 00:28:06.920
paying somebody to do it tends to be very expensive

00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:10.599
right um and you know in the beginning it was

00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:13.859
super scary It was super scary because I had

00:28:13.859 --> 00:28:15.400
no idea what I was doing. I was afraid I was

00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:18.619
going to blow something up. And then, boom, there

00:28:18.619 --> 00:28:22.720
goes everything that I put, all the money that

00:28:22.720 --> 00:28:25.359
I put into this thing, right? So it's scary.

00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:27.420
And so you're taking like low risk. You're like,

00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:29.160
okay, let me do this project that looks a lot

00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:32.140
easier, that is not electrical wiring, so I don't

00:28:32.140 --> 00:28:34.819
burn or blow anything up. Let me not deal with

00:28:34.819 --> 00:28:37.500
the gas, you know, anything with the gas furnace

00:28:37.500 --> 00:28:39.519
or anything like that. Let me deal with simple

00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:42.279
things that I know, you know, is low stake, right?

00:28:43.259 --> 00:28:46.140
Great. Start with the low stake stuff. Right.

00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:48.319
Because honestly, that's how we learn. We don't

00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:50.279
learn by, you know, I mean, I understand that

00:28:50.279 --> 00:28:51.740
some people do this where they throw their kids

00:28:51.740 --> 00:28:53.200
into the deep end of the pool and tell them to

00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:57.119
figure it out. But a lot of us learn in, you

00:28:57.119 --> 00:28:59.200
know, in a progressive way. Right. We learn a

00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:02.160
little bit. Right. The low risk stuff. And then

00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:04.319
we feel comfortable with it. So we challenge

00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:05.940
ourselves and do something a little bit more

00:29:05.940 --> 00:29:08.480
difficult. And then as we get better at it, we

00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:10.259
feel more confident and we do more and more of

00:29:10.259 --> 00:29:13.730
it. That's kind of how it is for me. I needed

00:29:13.730 --> 00:29:20.910
somebody who I could talk to that I saw as, here's

00:29:20.910 --> 00:29:22.789
an example of somebody who can be very open in

00:29:22.789 --> 00:29:26.769
this way, who can share and really explore themselves

00:29:26.769 --> 00:29:33.150
openly to show what it looks like. But it doesn't

00:29:33.150 --> 00:29:37.589
have to be that. The one rule really is you need

00:29:37.589 --> 00:29:40.170
to have people you can talk to that aren't going

00:29:40.170 --> 00:29:42.940
to... judge or shame you and here's one of the

00:29:42.940 --> 00:29:46.099
things i think i really like about men is that

00:29:46.099 --> 00:29:47.900
most of the men at least the ones that i've encountered

00:29:47.900 --> 00:29:51.740
rarely are judgmental they're very open they're

00:29:51.740 --> 00:29:54.420
very accepting i'll talk about this you know

00:29:54.420 --> 00:29:56.259
another time but i think maybe a little bit too

00:29:56.259 --> 00:29:58.180
much in that direction sometimes they're a little

00:29:58.180 --> 00:30:00.759
bit too forgiving of things that they maybe shouldn't

00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:04.720
be so forgiving of but i find that if anything

00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:08.500
men tend to be Quite accepting. Now, they might

00:30:08.500 --> 00:30:10.539
still rip on you and make fun of you, but there's

00:30:10.539 --> 00:30:11.819
just something about the male culture where,

00:30:11.900 --> 00:30:14.720
you know, that's a sign of affection. It's a

00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:18.119
weird way of showing affection. So I want to

00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:20.380
just point out, like, it's perfectly fine to

00:30:20.380 --> 00:30:22.519
do it, you know, take little baby steps, you

00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:25.680
know, do it little by little. But I want to encourage

00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:28.660
you because I think that men are better at this

00:30:28.660 --> 00:30:30.859
than they give themselves credit for, right?

00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:33.599
And if you're like me and you have a lot of men

00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:36.460
in your life, like boys that you grew up with

00:30:36.460 --> 00:30:38.619
or people that you've developed friendships with

00:30:38.619 --> 00:30:41.759
over the years, you'd be surprised at just how

00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:45.259
much they want to be there for you. A lot of

00:30:45.259 --> 00:30:47.000
times it might just be that they don't know how.

00:30:47.339 --> 00:30:50.180
And you might be feeling this way. I think it

00:30:50.180 --> 00:30:52.000
might be helpful for all of you to kind of talk

00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:55.559
about it and to, you know, as I'm sure your inclination

00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:58.640
probably is, to be forgiving of one another when

00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:02.859
they don't meet up. meet some sort of the quality

00:31:02.859 --> 00:31:04.880
of interaction that you might have envisioned

00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:07.779
as the ideal. It doesn't have to be that. It

00:31:07.779 --> 00:31:09.920
could just be starting off by sharing some stuff

00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:14.640
about yourself to each other. But you can't really

00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:18.339
be honest with yourself without also being honest

00:31:18.339 --> 00:31:20.539
with other people. I think they kind of go hand

00:31:20.539 --> 00:31:23.160
in hand. I don't know which one came first, like

00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:25.880
chicken or the egg, right? I don't know which

00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:28.859
comes first. What I do know is that they feed

00:31:28.859 --> 00:31:32.140
off of each other. So being open and honest with

00:31:32.140 --> 00:31:34.920
others about your heart, about your struggles,

00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:38.960
about all of what's going on in you, right? That

00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:41.660
actually helps for you to feel confident and

00:31:41.660 --> 00:31:43.940
being more honest with yourself because now you

00:31:43.940 --> 00:31:47.579
realize it's safe. But also, as you become more

00:31:47.579 --> 00:31:50.500
honest with yourself, you would realize that,

00:31:50.539 --> 00:31:53.779
hopefully, you'll realize that it's okay. to

00:31:53.779 --> 00:31:56.200
be who you are and so you're not as worried about

00:31:56.200 --> 00:31:57.940
how other people are going to respond and you're

00:31:57.940 --> 00:32:01.779
much more open as you talk to other people okay

00:32:01.779 --> 00:32:06.099
um look there's been a lot said of boys being

00:32:06.099 --> 00:32:08.579
taught not to cry and the kind of damage that

00:32:08.579 --> 00:32:10.839
does to their emotional health and then stuff

00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:14.140
along these lines right it's not really that

00:32:14.140 --> 00:32:17.319
boys you know, have feelings and should be allowed

00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:20.380
to express them. I mean, it is, but it's not

00:32:20.380 --> 00:32:22.359
quite the point. I think that's kind of like,

00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:24.720
that would be missing the point, right? Being

00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:28.619
able to cry outwardly is really a genuine expression

00:32:28.619 --> 00:32:33.299
of a boy's inner self, right? They want to cry

00:32:33.299 --> 00:32:36.480
because that's how they feel. When we shut that

00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:38.460
off or we tell them to shut that off, what we're

00:32:38.460 --> 00:32:42.019
doing really is teaching boys to disconnect from

00:32:42.019 --> 00:32:44.670
who they are. to be dishonest with themselves,

00:32:44.829 --> 00:32:47.230
to tell themselves lies. I mentioned the example

00:32:47.230 --> 00:32:49.569
of the kind of coping mechanisms that my parents

00:32:49.569 --> 00:32:52.630
left me with, which is a lot of denying how I'm

00:32:52.630 --> 00:32:55.309
feeling, right? Or dismissing how I'm feeling.

00:32:55.390 --> 00:32:58.710
Like, I'm angry. I have a good reason to be angry.

00:32:58.849 --> 00:33:01.450
But instead of talking about why it is that I'm

00:33:01.450 --> 00:33:05.609
angry, it's just, let's ride it out and let's

00:33:05.609 --> 00:33:08.710
let biology do its thing. And, you know, eventually

00:33:08.710 --> 00:33:10.450
that's going to calm down and you're not going

00:33:10.450 --> 00:33:14.430
to be angry anymore, right? As if the feelings

00:33:14.430 --> 00:33:16.849
and why it is I felt the way that I did really

00:33:16.849 --> 00:33:20.410
doesn't matter. It's more a matter of time and

00:33:20.410 --> 00:33:23.210
letting my body run its course or something along

00:33:23.210 --> 00:33:26.890
those lines. That's dishonesty. That's dishonesty

00:33:26.890 --> 00:33:30.029
with myself. So if this is what you've been given

00:33:30.029 --> 00:33:33.420
and utilizing for most of your life, That's going

00:33:33.420 --> 00:33:36.500
to be your go -to in your toolbox, and as a result,

00:33:36.579 --> 00:33:38.220
you're going to continuously be dishonest with

00:33:38.220 --> 00:33:40.619
yourself. But as I've said, being dishonest with

00:33:40.619 --> 00:33:42.980
yourself in this way, it's not addressing anything,

00:33:43.140 --> 00:33:44.339
and this is part of the reason that you don't

00:33:44.339 --> 00:33:45.940
grow. This is part of the reason you don't mature.

00:33:46.339 --> 00:33:48.200
You never actually get to the root of the problem,

00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:50.740
and all you're doing is you're doing patchwork

00:33:50.740 --> 00:33:52.680
on things that you can't patch in the way that

00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:57.599
you think you can. So again, it's this dishonesty

00:33:57.599 --> 00:33:59.680
that prevents us from getting to the root of

00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:02.119
what ails us. When you understand this deeper

00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:04.829
point, You should see why it's important that

00:34:04.829 --> 00:34:07.809
we create a space, men, that we create a space

00:34:07.809 --> 00:34:10.090
for each other to be our most authentic self.

00:34:10.769 --> 00:34:13.530
So I have zero problems with men getting together

00:34:13.530 --> 00:34:16.929
to have, you know, men time, right? Doing men

00:34:16.929 --> 00:34:20.849
things, right? But men, I hope that, you know,

00:34:20.849 --> 00:34:22.769
when you do get together, that you start doing

00:34:22.769 --> 00:34:25.329
at least some of this for each other. That is,

00:34:25.349 --> 00:34:28.309
create some space where men can be their most

00:34:28.309 --> 00:34:32.230
authentic self. Allow them. to be honest with

00:34:32.230 --> 00:34:35.090
you and honest about the things that honestly,

00:34:35.250 --> 00:34:37.750
a lot of men from my experience don't want to

00:34:37.750 --> 00:34:39.309
be honest about, which is the things that are

00:34:39.309 --> 00:34:42.369
difficult and hard. It's easy to share the things

00:34:42.369 --> 00:34:44.449
that, you know, like your successes and, you

00:34:44.449 --> 00:34:46.849
know, moments of joy. It's a lot harder to talk

00:34:46.849 --> 00:34:51.019
about your anxieties, worries, fears. shortcomings,

00:34:51.019 --> 00:34:52.699
insecurities. Those are a lot harder, right?

00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:54.619
So I want to kind of encourage you to create

00:34:54.619 --> 00:34:57.019
a space where, yeah, do all the good stuff, the

00:34:57.019 --> 00:34:59.219
fun stuff, but don't, again, like I talked about

00:34:59.219 --> 00:35:01.159
with my relationships and the lack or the lack

00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:04.300
thereof, right? Don't focus on just doing stuff

00:35:04.300 --> 00:35:06.239
with each other, but take a moment to actually

00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:08.800
ask about what's happening in each other's lives

00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:11.940
to be open and willing to share what's going

00:35:11.940 --> 00:35:15.219
on in your life, right? I still think you should

00:35:15.219 --> 00:35:18.440
find a professional to talk to. If anything,

00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:22.260
I'll be honest with you. I still do not feel

00:35:22.260 --> 00:35:25.440
confident dealing with electrical wiring stuff

00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:27.179
in the house. I don't feel comfortable with it

00:35:27.179 --> 00:35:28.280
at all. I feel like I'm going to electrocute

00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:31.159
myself if I tried, even if it's some basic stuff.

00:35:31.699 --> 00:35:33.599
Some of my friends have told me, oh, no, this

00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:35.599
is easy. You just need to do X, Y, and Z. And

00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:37.039
then YouTube videos make it seem as if it's super

00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:39.579
easy, but I'm deadly scared. I'll still hire

00:35:39.579 --> 00:35:41.699
a professional. Why is that? Because I'm scared,

00:35:41.820 --> 00:35:44.539
right? Now, if I had somebody like a professional

00:35:44.539 --> 00:35:47.300
who actually guided through and taught me how

00:35:47.300 --> 00:35:49.920
to do the things that I need to do to fix my

00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:52.960
house, then I'm sure that I'd feel a lot more

00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:55.400
comfortable and confident about what I'm doing.

00:35:55.980 --> 00:35:58.519
Does it make sense? Right? So the analogy here

00:35:58.519 --> 00:36:00.840
would be talking to a therapist. It's like practice,

00:36:00.940 --> 00:36:02.699
right? It's like getting better at this. And

00:36:02.699 --> 00:36:04.119
then you start feeling better about yourself

00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:05.840
because you're like, oh, yeah, I feel like I

00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.139
could definitely do this, right? Oh, like you're

00:36:08.139 --> 00:36:10.320
running through the script and you're like, okay,

00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:13.219
I could try doing it differently. I've gotten

00:36:13.219 --> 00:36:15.119
bad responses. Like you could brainstorm with

00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:16.880
your therapist. It's like your partner in crime,

00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:18.079
right? Trying to figure out how to be better

00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:20.239
about, you know, being open with yourself and

00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:23.780
with others, right? So I would still say find

00:36:23.780 --> 00:36:29.280
a professional, right? But I also think it helps

00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:33.480
when we have multiple places to be our most authentic

00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:37.260
self. Because honestly, I find to be the best

00:36:37.260 --> 00:36:41.300
versions of themselves are people who are just

00:36:41.300 --> 00:36:44.539
consistently who they are wherever they go. They

00:36:44.539 --> 00:36:46.820
don't change themselves for other people. They

00:36:46.820 --> 00:36:48.760
are comfortable with who they are. They've accepted

00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:50.420
themselves for who they are. They know who they

00:36:50.420 --> 00:36:52.840
are, and that's how they walk through life, right?

00:36:53.340 --> 00:36:56.320
My friends will tell you, I still fall short

00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:59.659
in creating that kind of open space myself. I

00:36:59.659 --> 00:37:03.670
can be brash and dismissive and critical. pop

00:37:03.670 --> 00:37:06.949
off i talk my shit a lot um i'm sure there are

00:37:06.949 --> 00:37:10.130
men who you know are far better than me at listening

00:37:10.130 --> 00:37:13.610
with genuine empathy and understanding uh so

00:37:13.610 --> 00:37:15.250
there's a lot of ways in which i can grow in

00:37:15.250 --> 00:37:19.510
that respect for sure um but i'm not going to

00:37:19.510 --> 00:37:23.730
stop trying because It's not until I put myself

00:37:23.730 --> 00:37:25.670
out there, it's not until I try and exercise

00:37:25.670 --> 00:37:29.329
a little bit of courage and be willing to take

00:37:29.329 --> 00:37:32.010
some of these risks that I'm going to get the

00:37:32.010 --> 00:37:35.130
feedback that I need to be better about doing

00:37:35.130 --> 00:37:43.010
this for other men. So I hope that at least leaves

00:37:43.010 --> 00:37:47.190
you on a positive note. But the one thing I don't

00:37:47.190 --> 00:37:52.340
want is for us to try to do this. uh ourselves

00:37:52.340 --> 00:37:56.099
you need mirrors around you to help you see it

00:37:56.099 --> 00:37:57.480
and it's going to be hard and it's going to be

00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:00.260
scary it's not going to feel good but i just

00:38:00.260 --> 00:38:02.840
want to encourage you because this is the fundamentals

00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:06.039
that i think are going to shape everything else

00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:09.579
that we talk about like nothing happens in terms

00:38:09.579 --> 00:38:12.920
of you being less of a bitch if you're not willing

00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:15.280
to first take an honest look in the mirror and

00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:19.069
acknowledge when you're being a bitch right So

00:38:19.069 --> 00:38:21.210
let's do this for each other, not to tear each

00:38:21.210 --> 00:38:22.530
other down, but to build each other up.
